St. Louis County Juvenile Court: Michael Brown Had No Felony Convictions or Charges

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This morning, Dumbest Man on the Internet Jim Hoft was eagerly hyping Chuck C. Johnson’s lawsuit to get Michael Brown’s juvenile records released: Michael Brown Lawsuit Goes to Court This AM | the Gateway Pundit.

Being Jim Hoft, of course he repeated Johnson’s totally unsubstantiated claim that Michael Brown had committed second degree murder.

According to KMOX, The Citizen Journalist website GotNews has filed suit in St. Louis County circuit court seeking possible juvenile records on Michael Brown. There are rumors that Brown was involved in a second degree murder case before his death.

And now we have the official word from the St. Louis County Juvenile Court:

It’s now time for Jim Hoft and Chuck C. Johnson to apologize for their outrageous lies and smears. (No, I’m not holding my breath.)

They should never have filed this suit in the first place; juvenile records are sealed precisely to prevent the kind of character assassination these two hateful idiots attempted.

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182 comments

1 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:20:50am

I can’t imagine what Mike Brown’s mother is going thru.

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2014 10:22:25am

and, he’s off!!!!!!!!

3 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:23:26am
4 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 10:23:38am

Because if MO courts release MB’s records “if there is nothing on it” then they will need to start releasing all juvi records. Slippery slope and all that.

EDIT: The “Bingo” tweet was retweeted by CCJ.

5 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:05am

Coming soon:

“Sure, there weren’t any felonies, but what about misdemeanors?!”

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

6 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:09am

Hoft and Johnson will never be held accountable for their smears and completely unsubstantiated claims.

But in the process, they’ve muddied the waters sufficiently so that people who are in the prospective jury pool might think that Brown had done something wrong or had a criminal record, when there’s no proof.

Moreover, they’ll simply move on to the next smear, and ignore the countless posts that they made saying that this was out there.

7 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:10am

Bryan Fischer hasn’t started with the “Winnable War!” crap over the Louisiana decision yet but I’m sure it’s coming.

8 Mike Lamb  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:23am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, he’s off!!!!!!!!

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What about charged? Seriously? Criminal justice system, how the fuck does it work?

9 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:28am

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

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RINO!!

10 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:24:32am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, he’s off!!!!!!!!

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I give up. I fucking give up with this creep. Really being charged with a crime means you deserve to get shot at? Well goddamn let’s shoot at Rick Perry because he’s been charged with some serious crimes too. Unfuckingbelievable this asshole.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:25:01am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, he’s off!!!!!!!!

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The straws…he be graspin’ at them.

12 Kid A  Sep 3, 2014 10:25:32am
13 Mike Lamb  Sep 3, 2014 10:25:45am

re: #5 Kragar

Coming soon:

“Sure, there weren’t any felonies, but what about misdemeanors?!”

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

What about detentions? Did he get a check mark behind his name in grade school?

14 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:26:04am
We are living in a computer-programmed reality, and the only clue we have to it is when some variable is changed, and some alteration in our reality occurs. We would have the overwhelming impression that we were re-living the present - déjà vu - perhaps in precisely the same way: hearing the same words, saying the same words. I submit that these impressions are valid and significant, and I will even say this: such an impression is a clue, that in some past time-point, a variable was changed - re-programmed as it were - and that because of this, an alternative world branched off.

Youtube Video

15 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 10:26:16am

re: #13 Mike Lamb

What about detentions? Did he get a check mark behind his name in grade school?

Someone’d better check his PERMANENT RECORD.

16 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:26:27am

re: #5 Kragar

Coming soon:

“Sure, there weren’t any felonies, but what about misdemeanors?!”

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

Crimes against Skyrim maybe. That always got me attacked by the guards.

17 Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2014 10:26:38am
18 Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2014 10:26:59am
19 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 10:27:30am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Crimes against Skyrim maybe. That always got me attacked by the guards.

I used to be a gamer like you. Then I took a computer desk corner in the knee.

(Seriously, ouch.)

20 Bulworth  Sep 3, 2014 10:27:36am
There are rumors that Brown was involved in a second degree murder case before his death.

Gosh, sounds pretty solid to me.

/

21 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 10:27:46am

re: #5 Kragar

Coming soon:

“Sure, there weren’t any felonies, but what about misdemeanors?!”

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

Well, Johnson might know a thing or two about felonies or misdemeanors as prosecutors continue looking into what he did in MS.

22 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:27:47am

Illinois wanna be Governor
Youtube Video

23 Ace-o-aces  Sep 3, 2014 10:29:11am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

24 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:29:16am

re: #19 Schadenboner

I used to be a gamer like you. Then I took a computer desk corner in the knee.

(Seriously, ouch.)

Feral Girl keeps trying to bit Feline Overlord in the knee.

Sooner or later, if she wants to live, she will have to learn that you can’t herd cats.

25 Bulworth  Sep 3, 2014 10:29:19am

re:
#4

What was the dead kid hiding????!?!?!?!?!

26 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:29:35am

re: #19 Schadenboner

I used to be a gamer like you. Then I took a computer desk corner in the knee.

(Seriously, ouch.)

I’m not actually a Skyrim player. Well I played a few times and got obsessed with being a mead thief .

27 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:30:29am

re: #21 lawhawk

Well, Johnson might know a thing or two about felonies or misdemeanors as prosecutors continue looking into what he did in MS.

Is it okay for a cop to shoot him too? // I jest obviously but that’s the same fucked up logic he was using on Brown when he was spreading false shit about Brown.

28 Bulworth  Sep 3, 2014 10:30:35am

re:
#2

And what about suspected? Rumored crimes? Hey, we’re just asking questions….

//

29 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:31:39am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I’m not actually a Skyrim player. Well I played a few times and got obsessed with being a mead thief .

*quicksave*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
SUCCESS!
*quicksave*

30 Lidane  Sep 3, 2014 10:31:59am

re: #5 Kragar

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

Walking while black, obviously. Duh.

31 Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2014 10:32:32am
32 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:32:54am

re: #29 Kragar

*quicksave*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
SUCCESS!
*quicksave*

Yep! I also liked being evil and making people’s inventory too heavy by giving them too much food to carry around hahahha.

33 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:33:17am

But what about the future crimes he may have committed.//

34 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 10:33:19am
35 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 3, 2014 10:33:22am

So I call up LGF and - surprise, surprise! - Dim Hoft turns out to be a racist liar today too.

36 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:33:39am
37 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:33:50am

Holy Scottish Independence debate tho.

38 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 10:34:44am

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

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He’s a pathetic little weasel. It figures he’s going on the big weasel Rush’s show to complain about being exposed as a fucking lying bastard today.

39 Lidane  Sep 3, 2014 10:35:10am

re: #35 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So I call up LGF and - surprise, surprise! - Dim Hoft turns out to be a racist liar today too.

Feature, not a bug. Dim Hoft is guaranteed to be a racist liar on every day ending in y.

40 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 10:35:38am

re: #28 Bulworth

re:
#2

And what about suspected? Rumored crimes? Hey, we’re just asking questions….

//

Time to wake up the Precogs!!!

41 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 10:37:37am

Next on the agenda for Chuck C, getting bus fare for trip back to Cali.

42 Minor_L  Sep 3, 2014 10:37:45am

As we all know, whether he was charged with anything for which he was never convicted is completely irrelevant. (This is why I laugh when wingnuts claim that they are the only ones who care about the Constitution.) Given the way Ferguson’s law enforcement operates makes this irrelevancy even stronger.

43 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:38:08am

Joe who really isn’t a plumber?

44 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 10:38:13am

DID MICHAEL BROWN STEAL A COMMERCIAL JET LINER FROM THE TRIPOLI AIRPORT?!

45 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:38:15am

So a young woman I work with (21) has recently become pregnant. She’s not in a serious relationship and all signs are the pregnancy wasn’t planned.

I have no idea what she’ll do it about it but I got to thinking about what she’d have to deal with if she decided to get an abortion.

It breaks down like this:

- There is only one abortion clinic in Mississippi, located in Jackson. Jackson is about 160 miles from where she’s at, so you’re looking at one full tank of gas minimum assuming you have a vehicle with decent MPG. That’d be about $55

- Mississippi abortion laws state: A woman must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage her from having an abortion and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided. Counseling must be provided in person and must take place before the waiting period begins, thereby necessitating two separate trips to the facility.

So she’d have to spend two days minimum in Jackson before she even got the procedure. Unless she has friends up there she can stay with, we’re looking at hotel expenses for a few nights.

- And then there’s the costs of the procedure and related items itself. She has insurance through our employer but they don’t cover abortion. So that would be out of pocket. She also has to have a state mandated ultrasound done before an abortion can happen. I’m not sure who picks up the tab for that one.

- This means she’s realistically looking at having to take four or five (which would be an entire vacation week) paid days off work to get this done.

- And on top of that, the doctors who work at the Jackson facility come in from out of state and are only the there a few days out of the month. This means she’ll have to wrangle with HR to see if she can get the required days off at the right time of month to go get the procedure done.

- Also notice I haven’t factored in any food or other incidental expenses yet.

So all told, we’re looking at a 320 mile road trip, four or five days off work and probably anywhere from $700-$1000 when you consider hotel, gas, food and medical related costs.

And apparently none of this actually constitutes an “undue burden” on her because the laws in question have already been passed and held up.

Since one of the laws IS held up, that at least means she won’t have to go out of state to get the procedure since that would necessitate even more gas and time off work.

Now, regardless of how you feel about abortion, should it ever be this hard to exercise a constitutional right?

46 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 3, 2014 10:39:09am

re: #39 Lidane

Well, from what I gathered from an earlier frontpage article, he always has a CCC tab open in his browser to keep an eye on’em “thugs”…

47 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:39:15am

Next Chuckles Johnson bombshell:

BREAKING!!! MIKE BROWN ONCE LOOKED MENACINGLY AT A WHITE MAN!!!

48 Minor_L  Sep 3, 2014 10:39:21am

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

Are people still listening to this nincompoop? He has literally nothing to offer. Thanks, John McCain.

49 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 10:39:25am

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

Joe who really isn’t a plumber?

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Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher — The original award-winning journalist!

50 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 10:39:39am

Ok, Ok, Ok, so he wasn’t “convicted” of any “death star sized crimes” and maybe he may “not” have been “charged” with “anything” either.
Ah, but what about “crimes” he thought about doing or would have “done” if he hadn’t of been “shot”? Huh? huh?
~Charles (Bitch %^$#%) Johnson

51 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:40:10am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

So a young woman I work with (21) has recently become pregnant. She’s not in a serious relationship and all signs are the pregnancy wasn’t planned.

I have no idea what she’ll do it about it but I got to thinking about what she’d have to deal with if she decided to get an abortion.

It breaks down like this:

- There is only one abortion clinic in Mississippi, located in Jackson. Jackson is about 160 miles from where she’s at, so you’re looking at one full tank of gas minimum assuming you have a vehicle with decent MPG. That’d be about $55

- Mississippi abortion laws state: A woman must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage her from having an abortion and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided. Counseling must be provided in person and must take place before the waiting period begins, thereby necessitating two separate trips to the facility.

So she’d have to spend two days minimum in Jackson before she even got the procedure. Unless she has friends up there she can stay with, we’re looking at hotel expenses for a few nights.

- And then there’s the costs of the procedure and related items itself. She has insurance through our employer but they don’t cover abortion. So that would be out of pocket. She also has to have a state mandated ultrasound done before an abortion can happen. I’m not sure who picks up the tab for that one.

- This means she’s realistically looking at having take four or five (which would be an entire vacation week) paid days off work to get this done.

- And on top of that, the doctors who work at the Jackson facility come in from out of state and are only the there a few days out of the month. This means she’ll have to wrangle with HR to see if she can get the required days off at the right time of month to go get the procedure done.

- Also notice I haven’t factored in any food or other incidental expenses yet.

So all told, we’re looking at a 320 mile road trip, four or five days off work and probably anywhere from $700-$1000 when you consider hotel, gas, food and medical related costs.

And apparently none of this actually constitutes an “undue burden” on her because the laws in question have already been passed and held up.

Since one of the laws IS held up, that at least means she won’t have to go out of state to get the procedure since that would necessitate even more gas and time off work.

Now, regardless of how you feel about abortion, should it ever be this hard to exercise a constitutional right?

compared to the innocent life —which you can’t put a value on …JESUS

52 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 10:41:19am

I wonder if this smirk is still there?

53 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:41:31am

Petey got back to me this morning

54 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 10:41:33am

A sea of red - states where women are most unequal corresponds greatly with the states where the GOP has a stranglehold.

And they’re looking to roll back the progress everywhere else.

55 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 10:42:14am

Self awareness, how the fuck does it work?

Part of the reason Ferguson happened is because the police and the power structure are not representative of the “neighborhood”.

57 wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2014 10:43:14am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Now, regardless of how you feel about abortion, should it ever be this hard to exercise a constitutional right?

No, it shouldn’t. Also, it shouldn’t be that difficult to access medical care.

re: #54 lawhawk

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A sea of red - states where women are most unequal corresponds greatly with the states where the GOP has a stranglehold.

And they’re looking to roll back the progress everywhere else.

Gosh, I think there might be a connection between these two items.

58 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:43:33am

Another thing about this girl. She, like most other 21 year olds, is not really financially stable. I’m certain she’d have a heck of a time trying to find extra money to cover that.

So it could come down to a situation where she wants to do it but simply can’t manage the time or money to get it done. So she’s left with two choices: Either go through with the pregnancy or terminate it through less “official” means.

This is what these laws lead to…and it ain’t pretty.

Again, regardless of where you stand on abortion there is real human suffering here that needs to be properly addressed.

59 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 10:44:17am

re: #53 Kragar

I’m kind of surprised to see Florida that dark.

60 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 10:44:51am

re: #52 b.d.

I wonder if this smirk is still there?

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Please please please please #JamesBrown Are you ready for Star Time? //

61 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:45:16am

re: #55 Franklin

Self awareness, how the fuck does it work?

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Part of the reason Ferguson happened is because the police and the power structure are not representative of the “neighborhood”.

62 Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2014 10:45:27am

re: #29 Kragar

*quicksave*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
*reload*
*Pickpocket*
SUCCESS!
*quicksave*

I actually had a spreadsheet around here somewhere which would calculate the success rate based on the item’s value…

63 calochortus  Sep 3, 2014 10:46:06am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

This is what these laws lead to…and it ain’t pretty.

Again, regardless of where you stand on abortion there is real human suffering here that needs to be properly addressed.

I think some folks see that as a feature not a bug. Punishment for inappropriate behavior.

64 Minor_L  Sep 3, 2014 10:47:00am

re: #63 calochortus

Absolutely. And, they can make it de facto illegal, even though it is still technically legal. I can’t believe these courts are upholding these rules.

65 Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2014 10:47:04am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

(I was farming pickpocket skill by adding money to a sleeping NPC and then taking it back. I created the spreadsheet to figure out what the highest out of money I could place in the NPC and still have 90% success rate [the highest possible].)

66 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 10:47:10am

Now Chuck C needs to sue to get Michael Brown’s dental records, he might find an incriminating overbite or something.

67 ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2014 10:47:46am

I created this last night…and it fits in with Chucky’s bobbleheaded ways today.

Bobblehead Chuck C Johnson - World’s Bestest New Journalist

68 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:48:32am
69 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 10:48:59am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Holy Scottish Independence debate tho.

Given how much INTERNET RAEG there is on the subject I really feel like I should pick a side and start screaming but I can’t be bothered to try to understand any of it.

:(

70 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 10:49:21am

re: #61 Kragar

Corrupt local cops? They don’t exist.

Except where they do, which is most everywhere.

The police force that Wilson previously belonged to disbanded because of corruption and other issues.

Rep Jeff Roorda, who championed Wilson’s charity and has sought to shield cops from public scrutiny, was booted as a police officer in one jurisdiction because he was falsifying records but quickly became a chief in another local jurisdiction.

Before 2010, Ferguson PD had no clear procedure for dealing with police brutality claims. Officers could write themselves up, and there was no oversight.

But that’s just a small sample.

Even though they make movies out of corrupt cops all the time.

Among them: Serpico. The true story about how an honest cop took on a corrupt police force, which turned against him in a hurry.

71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 3, 2014 10:49:29am

re: #65 Timothy Watson

(I was farming pickpocket skill by adding money to a sleeping NPC and then taking it back. I created the spreadsheet to figure out what the highest out of money I could place in the NPC and still have 90% success rate [the highest possible].)

Hey! Nobody told me there would be math! /

72 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 10:49:47am

re: #67 ObserverArt

I created this last night…and it fits in with Chucky’s bobbleheaded ways today.

Bobblehead Chuck C Johnson - World’s Bestest New Journalist

Nurse, get me a Blingee on this, stat.

73 Mike Lamb  Sep 3, 2014 10:50:11am

re: #66 b.d.

Now Chuck C needs to sue to get Michael Brown’s dental records, he might find an incriminating overbite or something.

No…that he had a Nelly-like grill, which would, of course, make him a thug.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2014 10:51:59am

re: #55 Franklin

Self awareness, how the fuck does it work?

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Part of the reason Ferguson happened is because the police and the power structure are not representative of the “neighborhood”.

It also helps if said neighborhood police actually live in the neighborhood…

75 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:52:28am

re: #65 Timothy Watson

(I was farming pickpocket skill by adding money to a sleeping NPC and then taking it back. I created the spreadsheet to figure out what the highest out of money I could place in the NPC and still have 90% success rate [the highest possible].)

I pickpocketed just enough to level me up to fill in my sneak skills for the backstab bonuses and then I never had to pick a pocket again.

76 Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2014 10:52:36am

From a NSFW celebrity blog:

In light of his recent tweets about rape that make Kanye look like a goddamn genius, the Ninja Turtle known as CeeLo Green just had his TV show canceled by TBS. THR reports:

TBS doesn’t want any part of Cee Lo Green’s The Good Life.
The Turner-owned cable network has canceled the unscripted series after one season, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

When reached for comment, a TBS spokesperson said, “Oh, don’t worry, we did it while he was asleep. As far as he’s concerned, it never even happened.”

77 Lidane  Sep 3, 2014 10:52:51am
78 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 3, 2014 10:52:58am

re: #66 b.d.

Now Chuck C needs to sue to get Michael Brown’s dental records, he might find an incriminating overbite or something.

Think about all the opportunities phrenology offers here!/

79 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 10:53:04am

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m kind of surprised to see Florida that dark.

Probably-sexist speculation: assisted living, home care, nursing homes.

80 S'latch  Sep 3, 2014 10:54:19am

Can I call Charles C. Johnson an a-hole in this thread?

re: #52 b.d.

That picture of him smirking in front of the courtroom door, demanding the release of Michael Brown’s juvenile court records. What an a-hole.

81 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 10:54:56am

re: #80 S’latch

Can I call Charles C. Johnson an a-hole in this thread?

That picture of him smirking in front of the courtroom door, demanding the release of Michael Brown’s juvenile court records. What an a-hole.

By A-hole, I assume you mean asshole?

82 S'latch  Sep 3, 2014 10:55:43am

re: #81 Kragar

To be accurate, I do. And I am referring to Charles C. Johnson, to be perfectly clear.

83 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 10:56:00am

Charles C. Johnson’s theme song, “I Guess I’m Dumb (But I Don’t Care)”

Youtube Video

84 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 10:56:47am

Chuck Johnson is a smear merchant.

This is what he does. He’s not interested in the facts. Those just get in the way of his narrative, which is that Brown was bad, and Wilson was completely justified in shooting him.

Even though all the witnesses that have come forward and are publicly identified all suggest that Wilson inappropriately used deadly force, and that Brown was surrendering to Wilson.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2014 10:57:15am

So, Chuckles is saying he does a lot of hard-hitting award-winning honest journalism coverage in Fresno?
No? STFU, then.

86 BeachDem  Sep 3, 2014 10:57:24am

I kind of wish they had simply told ChuckyC to fuck off, much like they did in their denial of his FOIA request, and laughed in his snide little face.

And added…

Youtube Video

87 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 10:57:46am

Also Paged.

READ THE WHOLE THING.

I’m sick to my stomach. How could anyone do this to their own child?

Since 2002, when President George W. Bush issued an executive order that permitted faith-based organizations to receive federal support for social services, an increased amount of federal funding has gone to churches and religion­affiliated organizations where LGBT youth may not feel welcome. The biggest provider for homeless youth in the country is Covenant House, an organization based in New York and a shelter where LGBT teens have historically faced harassment. “The gay kids would routinely get bashed there,” Siciliano tells me. “In the Nineties, one of the first kids I had go there came back and said he would never go back. When I asked why, he said they put him in a dorm with 14 kids, and when they went to bed, they gathered around and urinated on him to show how much they hated having a gay kid there.”

88 Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2014 10:57:47am

re: #75 Kragar

I pickpocketed just enough to level me up to fill in my sneak skills for the backstab bonuses and then I never had to pick a pocket again.

I think that’s what I was doing at the time but I don’t recall exactly.

89 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 10:59:34am

re: #86 BeachDem

I kind of wish they had simply told ChuckyC to fuck off, much like they did in their denial of his FOIA request, and laughed in his snide little face.

And added…

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The five w’s of award-winning journalism: Who, what, when, where, and wake me when I’m famous.

90 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:00:00am
91 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:00:34am

re: #88 Timothy Watson

I think that’s what I was doing at the time but I don’t recall exactly.

KHAJIT 4 LIFE, BITCHES!

92 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 11:00:34am

I always thought juvenile records were sealed for good. How did this happen?

93 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:00:45am

re: #92 I Stand With Big Sodomy!

I always thought juvenile records were sealed for good. How did this happen?

Court order

94 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:02:39am

re: #92 I Stand With Big Sodomy!

I always thought juvenile records were sealed for good. How did this happen?

There was nothing to seal. If there was something to seal then that would be a whole other can of worms?

95 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 11:02:40am

re: #93 Kragar

I did not know it was that easy to open them up. Especially since it was just a newspaper that initiated it. Very scary.

96 Mattand  Sep 3, 2014 11:04:03am

Regarding Mike Brown’s juvie records: can we get a hearty “Fuck you” to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch as well?

They’re supposed to be the paper of record in that area; a.k.a., the adults in the room that contains Chucky C, Hoft, Dana Loesch, et al.

The fact they let themselves be trolled into this idiocy by these dolts is depressing.

97 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:05:39am

Chuck C Johnson just totally made up a story about Michael Brown killing someone and spread it to the whole world who ate it up.

Let that sink in.

98 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 11:05:46am

So here is his angle:

But there is this, so one of them is wrong. Guess where I am putting my money?

99 Bubblehead II  Sep 3, 2014 11:06:11am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

Another thing about this girl. She, like most other 21 year olds, is not really financially stable. I’m certain she’d have a heck of a time trying to find extra money to cover that.

So it could come down to a situation where she wants to do it but simply can’t manage the time or money to get it done. So she’s left with two choices: Either go through with the pregnancy or terminate it through less “official” means.

This is what these laws lead to…and it ain’t pretty.

Again, regardless of where you stand on abortion there is real human suffering here that needs to be properly addressed.

We had just such a case here in Idaho back in 2011. It ended badly. For the State

100 Gus  Sep 3, 2014 11:07:46am

re: #98 Franklin

So here is his angle:

[Embedded content]

Jeremy Kohler… local reporter!

101 Skip Intro  Sep 3, 2014 11:07:52am

re: #5 Kragar

Coming soon:

“Sure, there weren’t any felonies, but what about misdemeanors?!”

I’m curious as to what crimes a person free to walk the street might have committed that would allow cops to shoot him in the middle of the street.

Let’s just go the full Obama here. Where are his kindergarten records? Why haven’t they been released? What it the Brown family trying to hide?

These people and their enablers like Fox News and Heritage make me physically ill. That they can do this over and over with no negative consequences shows just how sick this country is.

102 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 11:08:06am
At one residential placement facility in Michigan, LGBT teens were made to wear orange jumpsuits to “warn” other residents about their sexuality.

**ggt shudders***

103 Lidane  Sep 3, 2014 11:08:17am

So that federal judge in Louisiana is an idiot:

For example, must the states permit or recognize a marriage between an aunt and niece? Aunt and nephew? Brother/brother? Father and child? May minors marry? Must marriage be limited to only two people? What about a transgender spouse? Is such a union same-gender or male-female? All such unions would undeniably be equally committed to love and caring for one another, just like the plaintiffs.

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! ELEVENTY!

104 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:08:49am

re: #98 Franklin

So here is his angle:

[Embedded content]

So Chuck C is demanding to know if he was acquitted of anything so he can drag his corpse up onto that cross? Because being acquitted is pretty much the same thing as doing it?

105 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:09:04am

re: #102 FemNaziBitch

**ggt shudders***

That actually is Nazisque.

106 blueraven  Sep 3, 2014 11:09:30am

I think it is YOU who needs a correction, asshole.

107 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 11:09:55am

re: #103 Lidane

So that federal judge in Louisiana is an idiot:

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! ELEVENTY!

Judge Feldman also sits on the FISA court. Yeesh.

108 Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2014 11:10:57am

re: #97 b.d.

Chuck C Johnson just totally made up a story about Michael Brown killing someone and spread it to the whole world who ate it up.

Let that sink in.

They used the same BS approach to smear Trayvon; it’s no surprise they did it again.

109 ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2014 11:11:13am

re: #101 Skip Intro

Let’s just go the full Obama here. Where are his kindergarten records? Why haven’t they been released? What it the Brown family trying to hide?

These people and their enablers like Fox News and Heritage make me physically ill. That they can do this over and over with no negative consequences shows just how sick this country is.

I commented in the last thread the same group that has hidden Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya and sell America that he was born in Hawaii was put in charge in this case to hide all of Mike Brown’s record.

It is an excuse that already has a built in audience that will readily believe it.

I referred to them as the Democratic Plumbers ( a Watergate cover up reference).

110 Gus  Sep 3, 2014 11:11:38am

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

111 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:12:03am

re: #106 blueraven

[Embedded content]

I think it is YOU who needs a correction, asshole.

Time for Chuck C to hop the next boxcar headed west.

112 KiTA  Sep 3, 2014 11:12:05am

re: #103 Lidane

On the plus side, this looks like it’s pretty much custom set up to be struck down on appeal, so at least there’s that.

113 darthstar  Sep 3, 2014 11:12:18am

What amazes me is that these guys are even more afraid of dead black kids that they feel the need to keep attacking them.

114 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:12:34am
115 darthstar  Sep 3, 2014 11:13:21am
116 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:14:40am

re: #113 darthstar

What amazes me is that these guys are even more afraid of dead black kids that they feel the need to keep attacking them.

The dead ones are the most dangerous, since if left un-smeared they threaten the fabric of our racist Post-Racial Society.

117 Mattand  Sep 3, 2014 11:14:48am

The most sickening thing about the whole Chucky C juvenile record search? The sheer amount of energy and effort he’s putting to smearing Michael Brown, so white bigots everywhere (himself included) can justify Brown’s murder by an incompetent cop.

People are just so fucking desperate to tell themselves “The big black kid had to have had it coming.”

118 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:15:17am
119 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:17:01am

As least Hoft has the decency to shut the hell up

120 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 3, 2014 11:17:33am

re: #119 b.d.

As least Hoft has the decency to shut the hell up

Maybe his iphone battery run out.

121 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 11:17:36am
122 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 11:18:02am

re: #119 b.d.

Don’t count on it. He’s already on to the next outrageous outrage - namely the claims that terrorists have a dozen planes in Libya that they’ll be able to fly somewhere and carry out terror attacks.

123 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 11:18:04am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

That actually is Nazisque.

Jim Crow for the LGBT youth.

124 ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2014 11:18:34am

re: #106 blueraven

[Embedded content]

I think it is YOU who needs a correction, asshole.

I’m thinking little Chucky is going to get a correction. Maybe outside the courtroom behind the building by someone that isn’t too fond of his games.

I’m non-violent, but sometimes guys like ChuckCJ find themselves pissing off the wrong people and those people can be violent to a fault.

Who knows, one day Chucky may get to learn all about a real eye socket injury and what it looks and feels like. He can then get with DimJimmy and go over the magnetic image scans for reals.

125 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:18:42am

This fucktard

126 FemNaziBitch  Sep 3, 2014 11:19:05am

bbl

127 Lidane  Sep 3, 2014 11:19:46am

re: #121 FemNaziBitch

Sovereign Citizen BS:
Common Law Grand Jury Group Cited As Extremist

I was just about to post that. I’m amused by this bit:

The concepts behind the CLGJ are “not as radical as some people might think,” Frost said.

Frost agreed to get involved after researching the NLA and talking with a coordinator from a nearby county. “Being a party chairman, I didn’t want to step into something that was going to reflect badly on the party,” he said.

He described the NLA and the CLGJ movement as a Tea Party/Libertarian movement “with heavy Christian influences.”

Organizers “think they’ve found a back door into the citadel of tyranny,” Frost said.

Oh, no. That’s not radical at all.

128 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:19:52am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

Jim Crow for the LGBT youth.

Evil. And on a related note, there’s an article in this week’s Rolling Stone about LGBT youth. Haven’t read all of it yet but it was heartbreaking reading about one girl who was cut off by her family for being a lesbian. Sigh. This is why we have to keep pushing equality left and right.

129 Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2014 11:19:54am

re: #119 b.d.

As least Hoft has the decency to shut the hell up

He might be napping.

130 makeitstop  Sep 3, 2014 11:20:09am

re: #119 b.d.

As least Hoft has the decency to shut the hell up

Only until he figures out a way to spin things that don’t make him look like a deranged asshole.

131 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:20:18am

re: #114 Kragar

[Embedded content]

So what is the real story then Chuck C if that reporter’s story is false?

132 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:20:30am

The key to the whole “Local Cops are better” thing is that, like local control of school boards, or States Rights, is that since the 14th Amendment, the Federal Government has largely been responsible for making sure that EVERYONE’S rights EVERYWHERE are protected, which places it at odds with local and regional power structures that favor one group over another - whites over blacks, Conservative Christians over any other faith or absence of same, ‘natives’ over immigrants.

133 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:21:06am

re: #129 Dr. Matt

He might be napping.

or he might be changing out of his formal wear.

134 Egregious Philbin  Sep 3, 2014 11:21:14am

Yeah, like Hoft will apologize…

135 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 11:21:42am

I don’t know what to make of this, I ahh….

136 Bulworth  Sep 3, 2014 11:23:02am

re:
#110

Because a ‘charge’ alone for any offense regardless of guilt or innocence would be worthy of a blah kid being shot to death.

///

137 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2014 11:23:36am

So who to believe: Chuckles Johnson or a bunch of ACTUAL reporters?

Hmmm….that’s a tough one.

/

138 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:23:46am

re: #135 Franklin

I don’t know what to make of this, I ahh….

[Embedded content]

So the paper CCJ was bragging about working with just days ago now can’t be trusted?

139 Jenner7  Sep 3, 2014 11:24:06am

re: #135 Franklin

So, so dumb. The derp gives me a headache.

140 Kid A  Sep 3, 2014 11:24:48am

ChuckyC is now on Rush

141 darthstar  Sep 3, 2014 11:24:55am

re: #135 Franklin

I don’t know what to make of this, I ahh….

[Embedded content]

Had he ever eaten Skittles?

142 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:25:03am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

So who to believe: Chuckles Johnson or a bunch of ACTUAL reporters?

Hmmm….that’s a tough one.

/

IS THAT OTHER GUY AN AWRD WINNING JOURNALIST?!?!

143 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:25:22am

Chucky’s next tweet will be that we don’t know whether he was ever briefly considered a potential suspect in a crime, like did a cop ever see him on the street and say to himself, “The suspect in this robbery is black. That kid’s black. Maybe he’s the suspect?” which would clearly be acceptable grounds for wilson shooting him.

144 darthstar  Sep 3, 2014 11:25:23am

re: #140 Kid A

ChuckyC is now on Rush

Today’s Tom Sawyer should kick his ass.

145 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 11:25:54am

re: #138 Kragar

The only thing that can’t be trusted with certainty is Chuck C. Johnson. I wouldn’t trust anything he pushes. And that includes nouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, prepositions, and conjunctions.

146 Kid A  Sep 3, 2014 11:25:56am

re: #144 darthstar

Today’s Tom Sawyer should kick his ass.

Mean, mean pride.

147 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:03am

re: #140 Kid A

ChuckyC is now on Rush

I really hope that the aliens never dial into our AM frequencies.

148 ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:08am

re: #140 Kid A

ChuckyC is now on Rush

Will the torch be passed?

Oh wait, that was just another stinking fart.

Later Green ones.

149 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:13am

Can’t wait to see how Rush tries to spin this. Should be fun. I’m predicting that Rush will say something really bigoted and then he’ll get called out on it and cry about the media taking him out of context.

150 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:21am

So if Michael Brown he had a felony conviction, for say aggravated assault, resisting arrest, or anything the could establish a pattern of behavior relating to Office Wilsons claims, they could be admissible no?

Do they have to be convictions?

151 darthstar  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:25am

Wow…I never knew this…wait…yes I did.

How do vaccines cause autism?

152 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:25am

re: #103 Lidane

May minors marry?

Ask jesus loving Phil Robertson. He would say “Hell yeah”

153 lawhawk  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:43am

re: #146 Kid A

Youtube Video

154 Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2014 11:26:58am
155 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:27:11am

re: #144 darthstar

Today’s Tom Sawyer should kick his ass.

I always saw Rush as a bargain basement Led Zeppelin, with an even more grating lead singer.

156 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 3, 2014 11:27:18am

I did not know this:

157 Kid A  Sep 3, 2014 11:27:50am

He just said he filed suit WITH the Post-Dispatch. Lie. He said living in his “area” would be consistent with committing a felony. Lie.

158 Kid A  Sep 3, 2014 11:28:09am

re: #150 Franklin

So if Michael Brown he had a felony conviction, for say aggravated assault, resisting arrest, or anything the could establish a pattern of behavior relating to Office Wilsons claims, they could be admissible no?

Do they have to be convictions?

Guest host today.

159 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 3, 2014 11:28:27am

re: #145 lawhawk

The only thing that can’t be trusted with certainty is Chuck C. Johnson. I wouldn’t trust anything he pushes. And that includes nouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, prepositions, and conjunctions.

Every word he says is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

160 ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2014 11:28:42am

re: #155 GeneJockey

I always saw Rush as a bargain basement Led Zeppelin, with an even more grating lead singer.

Uh oh…them’s fighting words.

I’ll have to come back to see where the dust settles.

: )

161 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 11:28:46am

re: #117 Mattand

He was asking for it. Just like almost all rape victims. Unless their rapist isn’t white, because then they were a victim.

/

162 De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2014 11:29:06am

Award-winning journalist Charles C. Johnson seen exiting the courthouse

“I said no comment!”

163 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 11:29:09am

And, it’s on to the next one:

164 b.d.  Sep 3, 2014 11:29:12am

I hope Chuck C’s in-laws have had an opportunity move while he has been in St. Louis.

165 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:29:17am

re: #151 darthstar

Wow…I never knew this…wait…yes I did.

How do vaccines cause autism?

Christ.

167 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 3, 2014 11:30:15am

re: #156 Pie-onist Overlord

Geezus, that is breaking my heart even more.

168 Franklin  Sep 3, 2014 11:30:23am

ChuckC™ say anything of import on Rush yet?

169 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:30:25am

re: #158 Kid A

Guest host today.

Is it the idiot GMU economics professor who coined the term feminazi and who Rush goes to when he needs to prove how he’s not a racist fuckwad?

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 3, 2014 11:30:52am

re: #162 De Kolta Chair

Award-winning journalist Charles C. Johnson seen exiting the courthouse

[Embedded image]

“I said no comment!”

O’Keefe stole my walking stick!

171 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:31:26am

re: #166 Lidane

Florida Lawmaker: Make Students Watch Dinesh D’Souza’s Movie Because America Owes It To Those Who Died Protecting Freedom

Yeah no right wing indoctrination there whatsoever. American servicemembers didn’t die so Dinesh D’Sousa could push propaganda on America’s youth.

172 Kragar  Sep 3, 2014 11:32:21am

re: #168 Franklin

ChuckCTM say anything of import on Rush yet?

No

173 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2014 11:32:37am

re: #117 Mattand

The most sickening thing about the whole Chucky C juvenile record search? The sheer amount of energy and effort he’s putting to smearing Michael Brown, so white bigots everywhere (himself included) can justify Brown’s murder by an incompetent cop.

People are just so fucking desperate to tell themselves “The big black kid had to have had it coming.”

I’ll tell you what’s desperate…the fact that Chuckles was whining about how the national media was all over some “insignificant event in Ferguson” instead of his huge #MSsen revelations.
Until he found out a way to cash in on Ferguson.

174 GeneJockey  Sep 3, 2014 11:33:14am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yeah no right wing indoctrination there whatsoever. American servicemembers didn’t die so Dinesh D’Sousa could push propaganda on America’s youth.

Zee Godwins - zay write zemselves, no?

175 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2014 11:34:00am

re: #129 Dr. Matt

He might be napping.

I figured that napping was what Chuckles was doing during the hearing…

176 HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2014 11:35:37am

re: #174 GeneJockey

Zee Godwins - zay write zemselves, no?

Jawohl. Seriously. It’s downright hilarious that conservative lawmakers actually push for their shti to be shown and then they complain if a professor has the audacity to criticize U.S policy in a lecture. Conservatives are nothing but pathetic hypocrites when it comes to “indoctrination.”

177 Schadenboner  Sep 3, 2014 11:35:51am

re: #132 GeneJockey

The key to the whole “Local Cops are better” thing is that, like local control of school boards, or States Rights, is that since the 14th Amendment, the Federal Government has largely been responsible for making sure that EVERYONE’S rights EVERYWHERE are protected, which places it at odds with local and regional power structures that favor one group over another - whites over blacks, Conservative Christians over any other faith or absence of same, ‘natives’ over immigrants.

It seems to me that in a saner polity the universal response to STATES RIGHTS! nonsense would be “Lulz, no. 14th Amendment, bitches.”

This, however, is not the case.

178 leftynyc  Sep 3, 2014 11:45:45am

re: #156 Pie-onist Overlord

I did not know this:

[Embedded content]

That literally made my heart hurt.

179 BeachDem  Sep 3, 2014 11:50:00am

re: #114 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The perfect response.

180 BeachDem  Sep 3, 2014 11:52:27am

re: #124 ObserverArt

I’m thinking little Chucky is going to get a correction. Maybe outside the courtroom behind the building by someone that isn’t too fond of his games.

I’m non-violent, but sometimes guys like ChuckCJ find themselves pissing off the wrong people and those people can be violent to a fault.

I’m also non-violent, but he does have an extremely punchable face.

181 BeachDem  Sep 3, 2014 11:56:34am

re: #138 Kragar

So the paper CCJ was bragging about working with just days ago now can’t be trusted?

Well, first it was a paper he was working with, then it was that the paper simply copied/glommed onto his suit. It’s so difficult to keep up with the intricate workings of an AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST’s mind.

182 allegro  Sep 3, 2014 12:46:38pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

Another thing about this girl. She, like most other 21 year olds, is not really financially stable. I’m certain she’d have a heck of a time trying to find extra money to cover that.

So it could come down to a situation where she wants to do it but simply can’t manage the time or money to get it done. So she’s left with two choices: Either go through with the pregnancy or terminate it through less “official” means.

This is what these laws lead to…and it ain’t pretty.

Again, regardless of where you stand on abortion there is real human suffering here that needs to be properly addressed.

If her decision is to terminate, I will donate $50 via PayPal to help her out. Perhaps others here will help with small donations as well.


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