Is It Poetry? Comedy? or Both? Our Saturday Short: “On Loop”

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- Four in the morning, crapped out, yawning. -

Royal College of Art graduation film by Christine Hooper.
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Please vote for ‘On Loop’ to be shortlisted for the British Comedy Awards comedy.co.uk

Starring the vocal talents of susancalman.com (BBC Have I Got News For You, QI, Channel 4 Fresh Meat).

Woman At Door: Jayne Edwards
Sound Design: Tom Lock Griffiths
Written by: Christine Hooper and Victoria Manifold
Additional Animation: Jen Cardno, Ana Stefaniak and Alice Dunseath

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365 comments
1 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 6, 2014 4:08:39pm

I know someone is curing salmon this week. How goes it? ;)

2 stpaulbear  Sep 6, 2014 4:17:24pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

I know someone is curing salmon this week. How goes it? ;)

Last I heard it’s almost completely healed,

3 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 4:27:02pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

I know someone is curing salmon this week. How goes it? ;)

Good I hope! Tomorrow is the 5 day mark.

I drained juice (just a little) from the bowl last Monday - nothing since then.

Any further hints??

4 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 4:27:38pm

Actually tomorrow is 7 days. hmmm. Was recipe for 5?

5 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 4:42:26pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

Actually tomorrow is 7 days. hmmm. Was recipe for 5?

Gravlax?

6 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 4:43:08pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Gravlax?

Ya. Salt cured salmon in the fridge.

I hope.

7 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 4:46:34pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Ya. Salt cured salmon in the fridge.

I hope.

I only made it once, in my early twenties when I was working as a fish-cutter at a fancy seafood restaurant. Salt, brown sugar, fresh dill and lime slices. Did the press with two hotel pans, filled the upper one with ice.

8 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 4:48:13pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

I only made it once, in my early twenties when I was working as a fish-cutter at a fancy seafood restaurant. Salt, brown sugar, fresh dill and lime slices. Did the press with two hotel pans, filled the upper one with ice.

How did it turn out?

Gluten Free gave me the idea and link.

I’m going to taste tomorrow morning.

thekitchn.com

9 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 6, 2014 4:53:58pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Just let it go, and when ready, rinse off, pat dry, and slice thin a and enjoy. :)

10 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 6, 2014 4:54:38pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

Actually tomorrow is 7 days. hmmm. Was recipe for 5?

lol yeah 5. Guess you can enjoy it tonight!

11 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 4:56:39pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

Just let it go, and when ready, rinse off, pat dry, and slice thin a and enjoy. :)

Did you notice that the ecclesiastical supply house above (last thread) includes Gluten-free Jesus?

lifeway.com

12 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 4:57:35pm

Wow. Follow the links to see this totally trashy outfit. (Hint: it’s not)

13 Varek Raith  Sep 6, 2014 4:57:37pm

Boom. Good evening.
Youtube Video

14 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:00:38pm

re: #12 WhatEVs

Wow. Follow the links to see this totally trashy outfit. (Hint: it’s not)

[Embedded content]

Forget it, JustJay, it’s the South.

15 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:06:13pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Forget it, JustJay, it’s the South.

Granddaughter 3 is an 12 yr old who is part of her AL town sports league cheerleaders. Someone had the neat idea that they should cheer at the middle school’s first pep rally last week. Trouble was, the cheerleader costumes don’t meet the school dress code, so there was a wild scramble in the stores to find leggings and t-shirts to wear under the sparklies.

16 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 5:07:41pm

re: #12 WhatEVs

Wow. Follow the links to see this totally trashy outfit. (Hint: it’s not)

[Embedded content]

The “shame suit” looks like what I wear every day I can (not sweat pants though). If it were me, I’d thank them and take it home. Since it appears it’s acceptable school wear.

17 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 5:07:45pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Forget it, JustJay, it’s the South.

Does that excuse embarrassing a new kid on her first day in a new school? There has to be a better way than shaming a 15 year old.

It made me very sad.

18 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 5:10:59pm

Is it safe?

19 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 5:13:04pm

re: #18 Gus

Is it safe?

Whatcha ‘fraid of?

20 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 5:13:24pm

re: #17 WhatEVs

Does that excuse embarrassing a new kid on her first day in a new school? There has to be a better way than shaming a 15 year old.

It made me very sad.

My generation broke down all the dress codes. If that kid’s peers backed the Authorities and not her, I’m sad too.

21 Varek Raith  Sep 6, 2014 5:14:08pm

re: #18 Gus

Is it safe?

Nope.
Raptors everywhere.

22 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 5:14:15pm

re: #18 Gus

Is it safe?

Not if we can help it.

23 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:14:18pm

re: #16 Snarknado!

The “shame suit” looks like what I wear every day I can (not sweat pants though). If it were me, I’d thank them and take it home. Since it appears it’s acceptable school wear.

If there are enough bright rebels in that school, neon shame-shirts are going to be the hot fashion item next week.

24 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:15:20pm

re: #17 WhatEVs

Does that excuse embarrassing a new kid on her first day in a new school? There has to be a better way than shaming a 15 year old.

It made me very sad.

It excuses nothing, it just explains it.

25 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 5:15:44pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Whatcha ‘fraid of?

The collective stupid known as Twitter.

26 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 5:15:56pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

If there are enough bright rebels in that school, neon shame-shirts are going to be the hot fashion item next week.

You’re my kind of guy, DD. If you want to start a movement some day…

27 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 5:16:47pm

re: #16 Snarknado!

The “shame suit” looks like what I wear every day I can (not sweat pants though). If it were me, I’d thank them and take it home. Since it appears it’s acceptable school wear.

I agree. I work at home so I rarely get dressed in real people clothes. My issue is the decision to inflict shame on a kid on their first day in a new school. That has always been traumatic for kids (even those who change schools often). Piling that on an already stressed out kid makes me want to punch an adult.

28 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 5:17:32pm

re: #25 Gus

The collective stupid known as Twitter.

It’s never safe. Ever.

29 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:17:42pm

re: #21 Varek Raith

Nope.
Raptors everywhere.

Don’t worry Gus, they’re only armed for air-to-air action.

Raptors

30 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 5:18:33pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

If there are enough bright rebels in that school, neon shame-shirts are going to be the hot fashion item next week.

Love this. I hope she rolls with that.

She’ll probably get expelled.

31 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:19:06pm

re: #26 Snarknado!

You’re my kind of guy, DD. If you want to start a movement some day…

My schools had a dress code.

Image: LoretoToner61.JPG

32 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 5:19:19pm

re: #27 WhatEVs

I agree. I work at home so I rarely get dressed in real people clothes. My issue is the decision to inflict shame on a kid on their first day in a new school. That has always been traumatic for kids (even those who change schools often). Piling that on an already stressed out kid makes me want to punch an adult.

But DD’s neon shame suit would be much more satisfying. And could go on for months, if they really get sick of being told what to wear by their teachers.

33 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:21:12pm

re: #30 WhatEVs

Love this. I hope she rolls with that.

She’ll probably get expelled.

Then hope she doesn’t do that. Smart students don’t want something like an expulsion on their high school records.

34 Kragar  Sep 6, 2014 5:22:59pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Don’t worry Gus, they’re only armed for air-to-air action.

Raptors

Pfff, those aren’t raptors.

THIS is a raptor…

35 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:23:21pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Then hope she doesn’t do that. Smart students don’t want something like an expulsion on their high school records.

Four-year old grandson starts his 3rd daycare center Monday.

36 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 5:24:10pm

The dumbing down of America continues apace.

37 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:27:15pm

re: #34 Kragar

Pfff, those aren’t raptors.

THIS is a raptor…

[Embedded image]

No, this is more a Raptor than yours is.

38 Eventual Carrion  Sep 6, 2014 5:28:28pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

My schools had a dress code.

Image: LoretoToner61.JPG

Mine did too, Catholic high school. Tie on collar shirt, dress slacks. Didn’t have to wear a tie if you wore a sweater (V-neck pullover or cardigan). My fashion statement at school was made through my tie collection.

39 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 5:28:42pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

My schools had a dress code.

Image: LoretoToner61.JPG

And, which one is you?

40 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:29:31pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

And, which one is you?

Those kids are a couple years behind me. The nuns are the same.

41 Varek Raith  Sep 6, 2014 5:29:46pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

And, which one is you?

The old lady with the glasses???
/

42 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 5:31:05pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

The old lady with the glasses???
/

I picked the solid standing blondie on the left.

43 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:31:26pm

re: #38 Eventual Carrion

Mine did too, Catholic high school. Tie on collar shirt, dress slacks. Didn’t have to wear a tie if you wore a sweater (V-neck pullover or cardigan). My fashion statement at school was made through my tie collection.

A proctor would pull down our turtleneck to make sure we were wearing a tie. Of course, Lenny Bruce and Gene Krupa were wearing ties then.

44 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 5:32:40pm
45 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 5:33:28pm

I see Glenn Greenwald is now trying to get Oliver Willis fired from Media Matters, and John Cole’s chiming in.

46 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2014 5:34:36pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I see Glenn Greenwald is now trying to get Oliver Willis fired from Media Matters, and John Cole’s chiming in.

Did he criticize the great GG or something?

47 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 5:35:46pm
48 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:36:52pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Those kids are a couple years behind me. The nuns are the same.

The uniforms make them look like GI Juniors.

49 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 5:38:22pm
50 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 5:42:30pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

The uniforms make them look like GI Juniors.

We could field a strac company.

Image: Toner55.JPG

51 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:44:53pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

52 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:47:33pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

We could field a strac company.

Image: Toner55.JPG

STRAC meaning “Skilled, Tough, Ready, Around the Clock.”

And that is the DoD acronym for the day.

53 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 5:53:05pm

College football > Professional football.

54 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 5:53:16pm
55 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 5:53:27pm

And I don’t care what teams are playing. It’s just fun to watch.

56 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 5:56:04pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

And don’t you just love how he starts flinging insults when contradicted? It’s so charming.

/dripping

57 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 5:56:55pm

re: #53 darthstar

College football > Professional football.

Absolutely. I don’t watch NFL. College FB has heart.

58 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 5:57:47pm

Where Jeremy Scahill tells his editor to go and get bent:

Way to run that ship John.

59 Mentis Fugit  Sep 6, 2014 5:58:26pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

We could field a strac company.

Awaiting your orders!

Oh, you said STRAC. Never mind.

60 ausador  Sep 6, 2014 5:59:12pm

The guy who held office from 2007 to 2011 lost jobs, how shocking.

What I want to know is why the guy who has held office since then can’t even seem to get the state economy back to where it was seven years ago.

61 b_sharp  Sep 6, 2014 5:59:22pm

Is this the Bitch & Complain department?

I paid for the Bitch & Complain department and this looks like the right door, but the room is empty

Oh well.

I drove 2 hrs to get to a clients today so I can work on their server while nobody is trying to work. When I got here there were only 2 people and they promised to leave within a half hour, which they did, so things looked OK. I finished up some wiring while they worked and then hit the workstations to connect them to the new server in place of the old piece of junk they had. Using MS Server connector ran into errors because Windows doesn’t know shit about changed usernames and accounts in a network.

So I had to use each system just to see what the real account was and change the username back to the account name. Meh. It worked.

Then the connection app threw the profiles on the server but didn’t preserve any of the firewall settings. Something I was unaware of, so I tried to get Quickbooks to communicate with the server and load companies. it didn’t work, of course.

My solution was to open up ports on the server firewall and run a QB repair on each desktop. which seemed to work well, but it was slow going, and I haven’t eaten for 10 hours.

Now Simply Accounting is giving me the same bullshit but has no repair app and a long list of ports and programs that have to be allowed through the firewall.

I’m just going to turn the frikken firewalls off and call it a day.

Did I mention I haven’t eaten for 72 hours?

62 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 5:59:28pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

How did it turn out?

Gluten Free gave me the idea and link.

I’m going to taste tomorrow morning.

thekitchn.com

It worked out pretty well. Can’t remember how long the set was tho’.

63 Jenner7  Sep 6, 2014 5:59:57pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

You and John were two that I followed on a daily basis, but I hardly go there anymore. Now it’s you and Oliver. Did he just go ga-ga over Snowden or what? I always liked his posts about his animals.

64 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:00:13pm
65 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:01:01pm

re: #60 ausador

The guy who held office from 2007 to 2011 lost jobs, how shocking.

What I want to know is why the guy who has held office since then can’t even seem to get the state economy back to where it was seven years ago.

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After the hammering the real estate market took in Florida, plus the number of foreclosures? Nobody could get Florida back to where it was in 2007 in 4 years.

66 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:03:59pm

re: #64 b.d.

I don’t know John Cook, so my Tweet is mild compared to what I tend to put out:

67 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:05:04pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

I don’t know John Cook, so my Tweet is mild compared to what I tend to put out:

[Embedded content]

Hahahaha, Cook is the editor-in-chief of The Intercept. Scahill’s and Glenn’s boss, in theory

68 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 6:05:11pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

I don’t know John Cook, so my Tweet is mild compared to what I tend to put out:

[Embedded content]

He’s editor for The Intercept. No use in wasting your time Tweeting to him.

70 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 6, 2014 6:07:47pm

re: #69 darthstar

The only thing more annoying than zombies is people who dress as zombies.(& never bring zombie to a pillow fight)

I’m dead…. All I’ve got is a logitech web cam on a stick. Been good knowing you all.

RBS

71 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:07:50pm
73 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:09:45pm

re: #67 b.d.

Hahahaha, Cook is the editor-in-chief of The Intercept. Scahill’s and Glenn’s boss, in theory

74 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 6:10:55pm
75 ipsos  Sep 6, 2014 6:11:05pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

That’s a picture of a Tea Party rally! A FILE PHOTO!!!!

//

76 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:11:14pm

re: #72 Kragar

Think I’m good.

[Embedded image]

You’ve got a good chance, but I’d rather have that bayonet attached to an SMLE and plenty of .303 British to feed it with.

77 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 6:11:16pm

re: #70 RealityBasedSteve

I’m dead…. All I’ve got is a logitech web cam on a stick. Been good knowing you all.

RBS

Got a Bose headset. If I can youtube him some Lady GaGa, I’ve got a chance.

78 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:12:05pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

[Embedded content]

Not knowing that John Cook runs The Intercept is a mistake that most people would make, he sure ain’t running anything over there as that public contempt tweet from Scahill points out.

79 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 6:12:36pm

re: #75 ipsos

That’s a picture of a Tea Party rally! A FILE PHOTO!!!!

//

Don’t let the Alabama flag I’m waving fool you. (Left 2nd Jumbotron)

80 Kragar  Sep 6, 2014 6:13:30pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got a good chance, but I’d rather have that bayonet attached to an SMLE and plenty of .303 British to feed it with.

Should buy me enough time to make it the 15 feet to the Mossberg

81 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 6:13:33pm
82 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:14:30pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD GET JOBS

83 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 6:14:36pm

re: #78 b.d.

Not knowing that John Cook runs The Intercept is a mistake that most people would make, he sure ain’t running anything over there as that public contempt tweet from Scahill points out.

Honestly, given how often they publish, it’s hard to imagine anyone “running” the Intercept.

84 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 6, 2014 6:15:04pm

re: #72 Kragar

Think I’m good.

[Embedded image]

Not bad.

I prefer this, however…

85 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 6, 2014 6:15:40pm

90 seconds of scuba fun, enhanced with YouTube music archive audio. Edited by somebody who has no concept of editing.

Enjoy.

Youtube Video

RBS

86 Mentis Fugit  Sep 6, 2014 6:18:03pm

re: #69 darthstar

The only thing more annoying than zombies is people who dress as zombies.(& never bring zombie to a pillow fight)

All I have is a book, but it’s a 780 page hardback.

I give myself about a 20% chance.

87 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 6:18:23pm
88 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:20:22pm

re: #78 b.d.

Reading the next few tweets, though, it looks like this is one of their in-jokes at The Intercept.

They’re under a lot of pressure to post more often after lots of criticism over their lazy publishing schedule, probably coming down from the top, and this is how they’re coping - by being assholes in public. Because that’s what they are.

89 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:20:29pm

re: #83 darthstar

Honestly, given how often they publish, it’s hard to imagine anyone “running” the Intercept.

An Editor should, in theory, have some power. It is obvious that Cook has none.

90 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:21:47pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Not bad.

I prefer this, however…
[Embedded image]

Oh William, I thought you might be interested in this. I don’t know how you feel about tracer ammo, but there’s a store down in Galesburg, IL that got in several boxes of the stuff for the M1 Carbine, and they’ve still got a box left.

91 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 6:22:21pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Oh William, I thought you might be interested in this. I don’t know how you feel about tracer ammo, but there’s a store down in Galesburg, IL that got in several boxes of the stuff for the M1 Carbine, and they’ve still got a box left.

“Tracer works both ways.”

92 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:23:51pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Reading the next few tweets, though, it looks like this is one of their in-jokes at The Intercept.

They’re under a lot of pressure to post more often after lots of criticism over their lazy publishing schedule, probably coming down from the top, and this is how they’re coping - by being assholes in public. Because that’s what they are.

Scahill’s last written word at The Intercept was over a month ago, not sure how much of a joke it really is.

93 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:25:38pm

re: #92 b.d.

Scahill’s last written word at The Intercept was over a month ago, not sure how much of a joke it really is.

Exactly - he’s under pressure so he’s trying to make it seem like a joke. Been there.

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 6, 2014 6:26:35pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Oh William, I thought you might be interested in this. I don’t know how you feel about tracer ammo, but there’s a store down in Galesburg, IL that got in several boxes of the stuff for the M1 Carbine, and they’ve still got a box left.

If I were a bit more flush, it would be some fun stuff to shoot this winter. But I can get 200 rounds of good Serbian (Prvi Partizan) JSP for that much money. Best let a collector have that box.

Now, if I could only get down to Madison, I have an old friend sitting on a bunch of surplus .30 carbine from back in the day…

95 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:27:21pm
96 Romantic Heretic  Sep 6, 2014 6:27:23pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Whatcha ‘fraid of?

I don’t know. That’s what scares me.

97 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 6:29:43pm

re: #94 William Barnett-Lewis

If I were a bit more flush, it would be some fun stuff to shoot this winter.

I’d get some but Tracers are illegal here in California, for good reason, this place is one big tinderbox.

98 dholmes32  Sep 6, 2014 6:30:30pm

I read about the teenager who was (IMHO) slut shamed at the Florida high school. That “outfit” the school told the teen she had to wear would have been unacceptable at my high school (yeah, a Texas high school, graduated in 1978)—for the track pants.

IMHO the school did wrong here. My family moved from Northern California to suburban Houston in 1973 and it was a severe culture shock. I can imagine Miranda Larkin feeling very much the same way. There should have been some explanation here, not just GO PUT ON THE SLUT SHAMING SUIT. Heck, even my high school didn’t have a slut-shaming suit of clothes. All that happened was that you sat in the principal’s office until an adult brought you more appropriate clothes. Or, in the case of my brother, my mom would drive over, take him for a haircut and then return him to school. Every four weeks, like clockwork.

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 6, 2014 6:31:41pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

I’d get some but Tracers are illegal here in California, for good reason, this place is one big tinderbox.

That’s why I’d wait till winter. Let the bullet come back to earth in the snow.

100 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 6:34:24pm

re: #96 Romantic Heretic

I don’t know. That’s what scares me.

“Free-floating anxiety” always has a nice sound to it, like punting on a canal on a sunny afternoon.

101 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 6:38:19pm

re: #69 darthstar

The only thing more annoying than zombies is people who dress as zombies.(& never bring zombie to a pillow fight)

Do zombies like coffee? Maybe I can distract him with it. Otherwise, I’d have to try throwing the cup.

102 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:41:24pm
103 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 6:45:44pm

Wow

104 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 6:46:29pm

I’m totally over this 1Peter G1 asshole.

105 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 6, 2014 6:47:35pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

Just now? You do have patience.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2014 6:48:14pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

I’m totally over this 1Peter G1 asshole.

Guess I hit a real nerve there with him, eh?

107 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 6:50:08pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

I’m totally over this 1Peter G1 asshole.

What now?

108 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:51:30pm

And speaking of that CENTCOM Tweet referred to in the Intercept article John Cook Linked to, here’s a vid of an ISIS ‘technical’ (armed pickup truck) pulling into a garage and then getting blown away:

Youtube Video

This other technical’s crew made the mistake of letting their vehicle be seen parked out in the open:

Youtube Video

Eat laser guided destruction, you murderous bastards!

109 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:53:05pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

What now?

Peter and I were arguing with Frank and Backwoods_Sleuth over New Jersey’s pension difficulties. Nothing serious, just a heated argument over a in-bounds political issue.

110 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 6:53:27pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

What now?

He’s fertilizing Randall’s featured page on the Fitch downgrade.

111 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:54:37pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

And for anyone who needs a soundtrack for ISIS scum and their trucks getting destroyed:

Youtube Video

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2014 6:55:11pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Peter and I were arguing with Frank and Backwoods_Sleuth over New Jersey’s pension difficulties. Nothing serious, just a heated argument over a in-bounds political issue.

Oh, Peter really stepped it up, DF.

113 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 6:55:56pm

re: #64 b.d.

[Embedded content]

Ends with…

Drone warfare in Yemen and in Pakistan and in Afghanistan has shown it’s not always easy to say who belongs to a terror group, and who is a legitimate target, on the ground or in the air. If the U.S. continues the bombardment, it’s almost certain that the same questions will eventually arise. And if there are civilians killed, its unlikely CENTCOM will tweet about the videos.

Unlike ISIS who will Tweet and videotape the genocide of 1,000s.

These people are still clueless isolationists.

114 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 6:56:34pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, Peter really stepped it up, DF.

What did he do?

115 Eventual Carrion  Sep 6, 2014 6:58:40pm

Wave when it passes.

116 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 7:00:09pm

Uh oh, expect the Mighty Glenn will go after Politico now, I hope they have a long and mutually painful fight.

117 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 7:02:05pm

re: #116 b.d.

That article is 3 days old and I do remember Glenn going off about Politico.

Oh well.

118 Gus  Sep 6, 2014 7:15:36pm

Same old rhetoric at The Intercept. If you’re familiar with that line of FP thinking from people there you don’t even have to read it. It’s like a rather mild lite version of far-left views of US foreign policy. I would never call it radical.

119 [deleted]  Sep 6, 2014 7:18:45pm
121 b.d.  Sep 6, 2014 7:29:04pm

re: #118 Gus

Same old rhetoric at The Intercept. If you’re familiar with that line of FP thinking from people there you don’t even have to read it. It’s like a rather mild lite version of far-left views of US foreign policy. I would never call it radical.

I just don’t understand the dudebro infatuation that the media seems to have with Stallworth’s hire just being the latest example. Those guys remind me of, and I am sure there is a lot of overlap, with the Ron Paul morons who were very loud, freeped all of the polls, ruined all of the blogs and debates and ended up bringing in at most 10% of the vote.

All sizzle and no real large base, yet they get invited to the table over and over again.

122 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 7:33:36pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Seriously? You seriously think it would be great to have slick advertisements for guns on TV in this country?

Shaking my head.

123 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 7:35:44pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

No. Not a good idea.

Honest question: Should Colorado and Washington be able to do television advertisements for cannabis stores?

124 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 7:36:25pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes I think you’re really starting to get it, and then you post something like this.

125 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 7:41:54pm

re: #115 Eventual Carrion

Wave when it passes.

[Embedded content]

Listening now. These guys are good.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 7:43:21pm

Section deleted due to its offending others.

re: #123 teleskiguy

Honest question: Should Colorado and Washington be able to do television advertisements for cannabis stores?

Answer: Yes, subject to the same time restriction I outlined,

127 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 7:44:46pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Stupid crap we don’t need to read…

Bitter response to said stupid crap.

128 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 7:44:51pm

Note to self: Design a gun that shoots cannabis.

129 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 6, 2014 7:45:25pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Note to self: Design a gun that shoots cannabis.

The gun wouldn’t care to, man.

130 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 7:45:41pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Well, I certainly don’t think guns are as inherently bad as cigarettes, so I don’t think such an ad should be banned,

When a nine year old girl kills her cigarette instructor with a Marlboro, call me.

131 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 7:48:31pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I disagree with your proposition entirely, for two reasons.

One, the United States has a gun fetish problem. Tens of thousands of people are murdered with guns in the United States every year, far far FAR outpacing the gun murder rate of any developed nation. Gun murders may not have the numbers of tobacco deaths per year, but a gun can kill a human being instantly, tobacco deaths usually take a lot of time.

Two, I see the gun market as a niche market where the gun consumer is already well-informed of their choices in the marketplace. It would be like K2 Skis running ads for their products on TV, it doesn’t make sense.

132 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 7:48:37pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Note to self: Design a gun that shoots cannabis.

Your patent application is rejected in view of prior art.

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133 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 7:50:15pm

Anyone reading this thread should be aware that Dark Falcon is NOT expressing the views of LGF, or of me.

Speaking for myself, I find these views absolutely repugnant. For the record.

134 Lidane  Sep 6, 2014 7:50:18pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Guns are the LAST thing that need a slick ad campaign. I don’t care what time the ads run. Just… no.

135 TedStriker  Sep 6, 2014 7:51:09pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I think you’re really starting to get it, and then you post something like this.

Willful ignorance and a total lack of awareness for “optics” are hellacious addictions for “conservatives” to break.

136 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 6, 2014 7:52:27pm

re: #134 Lidane

Guns are the LAST thing that need a slick ad campaign. I don’t care what time the ads run. Just… no.

Gun makers already have an effective advertising agency — the NRA. Gun makers don’t need TV commercials on top of NRA propaganda.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 7:53:06pm

Post deleted, as it was offending others.

138 goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2014 7:53:10pm

The only gun ad I’ve ever seen on TV was for the Henry Golden Boy, it didn’t convince me to buy one tho’. I collect old Marlin model 39s, the ones made before Remington bought them and fucked everything up.

139 Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2014 7:55:07pm

Half the freakn’ hours on television are 60 minute advertisements for guns.

140 TedStriker  Sep 6, 2014 7:55:22pm

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi

Gun makers already have an effective advertising agency — the NRA. Gun makers don’t need TV commercials on top of NRA propaganda.

Indeed…the NRA is the gun manufacturers’ best friend, a marketing department on steroids thinly disguised as safety and rights advocates.

141 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 7:55:38pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Anyone reading this thread should be aware that Dark Falcon is NOT expressing the views of LGF, or of me.

Speaking for myself, I find these views absolutely repugnant. For the record.

Then I’d say to please feel free to delete the posts that offend you and I’ll drop the topic. I do not wish to offend you and I am sorry that I did.

142 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 6, 2014 7:55:50pm

I don’t see what would be wrong with an ad like that on the Outdoor channel. Fishing, hunting, target shooting, competitions etc.

143 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 7:56:01pm

LGF can be weird sometimes. I’m glad we can all come here and be civil and have a voice in discussions. But a longtime contributor (Hey Dark!) is advocating putting fucking gun commercials on television.

No, dude. Just, no.

144 TedStriker  Sep 6, 2014 7:57:15pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

You did notice how it can be taken down without pulling the trigger, I hope. And its got a very positive and reliable safety. It is a pistol ready for responsible use, not some poorly made piece of junk.

Aaaannnddd you’re still not getting the point.

Sometimes, when people are telling you that you’re digging a hole to China, the best thing to do is to lay down the shovel.

145 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 7:57:19pm

I’m deleting Dark Falcon’s comment.

And for the record I’ll also be deleting any other gun porn posted here. This stuff is NOT welcome at my site.

146 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 6, 2014 7:58:16pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

You did notice how it can be taken down without pulling the trigger, I hope. And its got a very positive and reliable safety. It is a pistol ready for responsible use, not some poorly made piece of junk.

I don’t understand why you think gun commercials are even necessary in a country in which guns are already easily obtainable. If the commercials were on during some cable TV hunting or outdoor sports show, I wouldn’t object. But placing them on broadcast TV for a general audience seems both pointless and dangerous. We already have too many guns in the hands of people who shouldn’t own even one.

147 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 7:58:43pm

Fucking unreal.

148 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 8:00:00pm

Seriously. What. The. Fuck.

149 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:00:15pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

You did notice how it can be taken down without pulling the trigger, I hope. And its got a very positive and reliable safety. It is a pistol ready for responsible use, not some poorly made piece of junk.

You really don’t fucking get it, do you? We’re in a period in our country’s history where mass shootings and accidental shootings are at an all time high. A day doesn’t go by where we don’t read about some kid who accidentally kills another kid, or their parents, or some stranger, or they get killed because some ‘responsible’ gun owner is showing them his new purchase…and you’re fucking seduced by computer graphics of how easily a gun is broken down? And what’s worse is the fact that you yourself don’t own guns (because you can’t or won’t) and yet you think it’s critical that assholes everywhere are given full and easy access to them?

150 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 8:01:20pm

My post #137 and that part of #126 that referenced the gun ad have been deleted.

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I’m deleting Dark Falcon’s comment.

And for the record I’ll also be deleting any other gun porn posted here. This stuff is NOT welcome at my site.

Fair enough on deleting the post. I’m sorry for putting it up. But I must ask what you consider to be ‘gun porn’, if only so I know where the line is.

151 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 8:02:28pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

I’d advise you not to push your luck.

152 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:02:52pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

My post #137 and that part of #126 that referenced the gun ad have been deleted.

Fair enough on deleting the post. I’m sorry for putting it up. But I must ask what you consider to be ‘gun porn’, if only so I know where the line is.

153 TedStriker  Sep 6, 2014 8:03:30pm

re: #152 darthstar

[Embedded image]

EWWWWWWW

Brain bleach, stat!

154 TedStriker  Sep 6, 2014 8:04:50pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

See my #144.

155 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:05:45pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I’m deleting Dark Falcon’s comment.

And for the record I’ll also be deleting any other gun porn posted here. This stuff is NOT welcome at my site.

I went ahead and removed the text from Dark’s comment in my #131.

156 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 8:07:30pm

re: #154 TedStriker

See my #144.

Yeah, I get it. I’m going to drop the topic, take Charles’ warning, and shut up.

157 Lidane  Sep 6, 2014 8:07:51pm

re: #142 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t see what would be wrong with an ad like that on the Outdoor channel. Fishing, hunting, target shooting, competitions etc.

The entire network is an advertisement for guns, ammo, and crazy gun fetishists, considering they have the Buck Commander idiots AND Ted Nugent prominently displayed on their website right now.

How much more free advertising do guns need in this country?

158 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 8:09:28pm

There’s going to come a time when I stop putting up with shit like this, entirely.

159 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:09:53pm

SKI PORN!!!

My Twitter and LGF icon. That’s me in there somewhere, Silverton Mountain, CO Jan. 2009.

POOF

160 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 8:10:49pm

I didn’t renounce the right and its insane promotion of gun porn just to have people push that shit in our comment section.

Yes, I am seriously pissed off.

161 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:11:26pm

re: #155 teleskiguy

I went ahead and removed the text from Dark’s comment in my #131.

See my modified #127

162 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:11:47pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

SNORKEL-SKIING!

163 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:13:42pm

re: #161 darthstar

See my modified #127

You did it better than me.

164 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 8:14:24pm

D_F is the kindest RWer I’ve encountered. Please give him a break. Let him be a RWinger.

Of course decide what is over the line.

But after every single day of reading hateful RWNJ’s and hell, just hateful racist assholes, I can tolerate someone with beliefs opposite of mine who at least is polite.

165 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 8:16:09pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

D_F is the kindest RWer I’ve encountered. Please give him a break. Let him be a RWinger.

Of course decide what is over the line.

But after every single day of reading hateful RWNJ’s and hell, just hateful racist assholes, I can tolerate someone with beliefs opposite of mine who at least is polite.

He’s abusing my hospitality with posts like that, and he knows it.

166 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:17:32pm

re: #162 darthstar

SNORKEL-SKIING!

Silverton Mountain should be on every skiers’ TO-DO list, truly amazing. It’s big-mountain skiing like you see in AK with a chairlift. I go every winter at least once, have since 2005. They got a helicopter a few years ago and I rode it for the first time in February.

I’m telling you darth, make a thing of it and come ski Silverton Mountain, it’s one of the best adventures on skis on this continent!

167 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:17:32pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

He’s abusing my hospitality with posts like that, and he knows it.

And he’s old enough to know what’s over the line by now.

168 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 8:17:32pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

D_F is the kindest RWer I’ve encountered. Please give him a break. Let him be a RWinger.

Of course decide what is over the line.

But after every single day of reading hateful RWNJ’s and hell, just hateful racist assholes, I can tolerate someone with beliefs opposite of mine who at least is polite.

Thank you for that.

However, this blog does belong to Charles and I should not have posted that video here. That was a stupid and offensive thing to do and I am sorry for having done it. The fault is solely with me, All I can do is apologize and make sure I don’t do it again.

169 darthstar  Sep 6, 2014 8:18:15pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Silverton Mountain should be on every skiers’ TO-DO list, truly amazing. It’s big-mountain skiing like you see in AK with a chairlift. I go every winter at least once, have since 2005. They got a helicopter a few years ago and I rode it for the first time in February.

I’m telling you darth, make a thing of it and come ski Silverton Mountain, it’s one of the best adventures on skis on this continent!

I suspect this winter will be epic. El Nino is coming.

170 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 8:18:53pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

He’s abusing my hospitality with posts like that, and he knows it.

Fair fair.

171 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:26:31pm

re: #169 darthstar

I suspect this winter will be epic. El Nino is coming.

It better be! For California’s Water Supply’s Sake!

El Nino in 1999 resulted in the most snow fallen in one winter ever recorded, up at Mt. Baker. 1,100 inches fell that winter. They dug out their chairlifts on the regular.

172 Belafon  Sep 6, 2014 8:28:23pm

re: #169 darthstar

Wasn’t el Nino supposed to be coming this summer?

173 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 8:28:37pm

re: #171 teleskiguy

It better be! For California’s Water Supply’s Sake!

El Nino in 1999 resulted in the most snow fallen in one winter ever recorded, up at Mt. Baker. 1,100 inches fell that winter. They dug out their chairlifts on the regular.

I thought El Nino was going to be a bust?

We are expecting some rain tomorrow from the latest hurricane off Baja.

174 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 8:31:55pm

re: #173 Stanley Sea

I thought El Nino was going to be a bust?

We are expecting some rain tomorrow from the latest hurricane off Baja.

I’ve already received weather warnings from our good folks at the National Weather Service in Grand Junction, CO. Some of the higher elevations could get up to 2 inches ( ! ) of rain on Monday and Tuesday. They’re saying that where I live the chance of rain on Monday and Tuesday is 90%.

We don’t really need it. The ground is saturated from an unusually active monsoon season, and all the rivers are still running above average for this time of year. We’ll see!

175 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 8:35:48pm

re: #173 Stanley Sea

I thought El Nino was going to be a bust?

We are expecting some rain tomorrow from the latest hurricane off Baja.

Chicago has had some very humid and often very hot mornings that lead into torrential downpours around noon several times this summer. Yesterday was perhaps the worst, and it raised the level of the Des Plaines River by over a foot.

176 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 8:43:27pm

Humidity plus rain no go.

But this dry hot weather is killing my drought resistant succulents.

177 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 6, 2014 8:50:47pm

Evening lizards. I must be a sick bastard. I’m watching American Psycho and laughing my ass off.

178 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:01:11pm

I’m digging through old photos and memorabilia at my dad’s house. I just found a letter to my dad from Gaylord Nelson accepting his invitation to speak at a Kiwanis, Rotary and Lions Clubs meeting in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin. Gov. Nelson would appreciate being informed where it will be held.

179 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 9:02:00pm

Ok?

180 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:03:58pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Ok?

Me?

181 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 9:08:26pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

After my grandmother passed away, as I was going through everything, all her papers and such, I came across a letter from the federal government responding to a report she made on her own doctor who was defrauding Medicare, and a photo from the paper (Chicago Tribune) with her and Ronald Reagan from some kind of business owner conference. I had no idea.

182 teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2014 9:08:52pm

OK. I was perusing my Facebook and I saw something in my feed that was good, shared by a college friend.

The difference is air conditioning.

183 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:09:40pm

I also found the Christmas menu from the US Naval Air Station, Barber’s Point, Oahu, Hawaii, 1951. It starts with saltines and ends with cigarettes. Most of the stuff in the middle is normal.

184 Amory Blaine  Sep 6, 2014 9:11:16pm

re: #152 darthstar

It’s no mystery why he lies in a twin bed.

185 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:11:40pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Probably, also, bourbon and scotch.

186 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 9:11:51pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Cigarettes! My fav desert! //

187 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:12:27pm

re: #181 WhatEVs

After my grandmother passed away, as I was going through everything, all her papers and such, I came across a letter from the federal government responding to a report she made on her own doctor who was defrauding Medicare, and a photo from the paper (Chicago Tribune) with her and Ronald Reagan from some kind of business owner conference. I had no idea.

I knew my dad was a Democratic functionary of some sort. Now I know he was Chairman, Northeast Unit, Waukesha County Democratic Party.

188 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:13:01pm

re: #186 WhatEVs

Cigarettes! My fav desert! //

I still love the smell.

189 Amory Blaine  Sep 6, 2014 9:13:47pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

That’s a keeper for sure.

190 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:14:11pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

Awesome!

191 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 9:14:14pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

Me?

ya. sorry I didn’t reply to comment. I may have missed something in your journey. Is everything OK?

192 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 6, 2014 9:14:21pm

re: #61 b_sharp

So sorry.

193 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:14:25pm

re: #185 prairiefire

Probably, also, bourbon and scotch.

Surely in the officers’ club, but not on the menu. Lots of sailors aren’t old enough. They do list Chilled Milk and Hot Coffee.

194 Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2014 9:16:51pm
195 Amory Blaine  Sep 6, 2014 9:17:34pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

Democrats in Waukesha are a brave bunch. I went to a memorial at the Waukesha Labor Temple in late spring. I felt like I was in a french resistance cafe’.

196 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 9:17:39pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

I knew my dad was a Democratic functionary of some sort. Now I know he was Chairman, Northeast Unit, Waukesha County Democratic Party.

Very cool!

197 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:18:14pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

That is sweet. God bless those young men. We are having an honor flight here in KC at the end of Sept.

198 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:19:33pm

re: #191 Stanley Sea

ya. sorry I didn’t reply to comment. I may have missed something in your journey. Is everything OK?

Yep, pretty OK. Dad knew who I was today, but still didn’t make a lot of sense. He said he got a job making deliveries on a bike. That actually his (deceased) sister Pat got him the job. He can’t even stand up. I’m ok enough to find this quite humorous.

He may get to the point where he can stand up and make sense again, he may not. Can’t tell at this time.

199 Dark_Falcon  Sep 6, 2014 9:20:34pm

re: #195 Amory Blaine

Democrats in Waukesha are a brave bunch. I went to a memorial at the Waukesha Labor Temple in late spring. I felt like I was in a french resistance cafe’.

The French resistance almost never met in cafes, they were too exposed.

/Detail oriented.

200 Amory Blaine  Sep 6, 2014 9:20:57pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

201 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:21:02pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

Oh my dear, I am sorry.

202 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 9:22:04pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

My best to you and your family.

203 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 9:24:08pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

That was my dad. I’m so sorry.

204 Snarknado!  Sep 6, 2014 9:24:12pm

Charles, in connection with your policies on gun porn, you may want to delete — or edit — your post #120 too.

(Also because if you don’t, the irony is going to kill me.)

205 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:29:09pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

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re: #201 prairiefire

Oh my dear, I am sorry.

Thanks! I’m really OK. He’s 84, has had a good run, and is still good-humored most of the time, and still funny intentionally, as well as the other kind. He’s being pretty well taken care of. I’m learning about hospital delirium. This is his his third go-round with it, but he’s much weaker this time. It’s shockingly common.

206 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:31:20pm

re: #202 Snarknado!

My best to you and your family.

re: #203 WhatEVs

That was my dad. I’m so sorry.

Thanks.

I’m going to have dinner at Annemarie’s house on Monday, I’m looking forward to a change of pace!

207 WhatEVs  Sep 6, 2014 9:34:55pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

Thanks.

I’m going to have dinner at Annemarie’s house on Monday, I’m looking forward to a change of pace!

That should be a very nice break. Enjoy!

208 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:39:40pm

re: #205 wrenchwench

I have two friends my age who are cancer survivors, but also affected by “ICU delirium “. I think the hardest thing we have to do is get ready to let people go.

209 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 9:45:48pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

Yep, pretty OK. Dad knew who I was today, but still didn’t make a lot of sense. He said he got a job making deliveries on a bike. That actually his (deceased) sister Pat got him the job. He can’t even stand up. I’m ok enough to find this quite humorous.

He may get to the point where he can stand up and make sense again, he may not. Can’t tell at this time.

hang in there WW. We are with you in heart.

210 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 9:47:27pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

Thanks.

I’m going to have dinner at Annemarie’s house on Monday, I’m looking forward to a change of pace!

Now that is good.

211 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:48:37pm

I also went to the International Civil Rights Center and Museum today. Great place, but they really like to keep tight control of their guests.

212 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 9:52:23pm

Also I bought a (used) John Hiatt CD from John Hiatt Jr. (no relation). Third place listed here.

213 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:55:06pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

If there are enough bright rebels in that school, neon shame-shirts are going to be the hot fashion item next week.

Spoken by a true lad of the revolution.

214 Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2014 9:55:33pm

Take care WW.

215 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 9:55:53pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

Imagine their hate mail.

216 Varek Raith  Sep 6, 2014 9:56:45pm

Youtube Video

217 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 10:03:42pm

re: #214 Stanley Sea

Take care WW.

Thank you. I’m good. The trouble will come down the road when I have to deal with my siblings over this stuff. They’ve been such jerks to my dad and his wife for the last x number of years, and so badly behaved last time he was hospitalized a year ago, that they’ve been cut out of the loop. Out of sympathy and loyalty to my stepmother, I’m not saying anything to them right now, but I will have to eventually. And I don’t know when. And then my stepmother might cut me out too, although I doubt it. Even though she’s sworn me to silence, I’ve caught a hint of realization from her that I’m going to have to tell at some point.

218 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 10:06:50pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

Edit, edit, edit. When he passes, it’s beyond your control and enters the realm of the “legal”. Until then, you are there now.

219 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 10:08:35pm

re: #218 prairiefire

Edit, edit, edit. When he passes, it’s beyond your control and enters the realm of the “legal”.

I don’t want to wait that long. But it can sneak up on ya.

220 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 10:12:59pm

re: #219 wrenchwench

I do not envy your post. You will be honoring your father. Tell them to remember his youth and vitality. Respect for what he can and did you for all of you.

221 wrenchwench  Sep 6, 2014 10:14:14pm

OK, I gotta hit the hay. Thanks so much for all the support.

Later, lizards.

222 klys  Sep 6, 2014 10:17:42pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

OK, I gotta hit the hay. Thanks so much for all the support.

[Embedded image]

Later, lizards.

{{WW}}

You’re in the thoughts out here.

Regarding the earlier El Nino discussion, current indications are that it will happen this year but it may be a weak to moderate El Nino centered further out to see than normal - not good news from the CA rain perspective. Unfortunately. (CA really only sees increased rainfall in strong, coast centered ones.) However, there are some other longer term cycles that may be shifting to indicate the possibility of rain in CA this winter. Fingers crossed.

223 Varek Raith  Sep 6, 2014 10:18:36pm

Funny,
NSFW.
Youtube Video

224 prairiefire  Sep 6, 2014 10:23:07pm

re: #223 Varek Raith

You crazy Swede, you.

225 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Sep 6, 2014 10:35:48pm

To get back to the Stallworth hire and his views, I want to address one of his conspiracy claims about vaccines and pharma. There are certainly reasons to be skeptical about Big Pharma, or the whole system in general, but it doesn’t apply to the vaccine area. It’s a shitty business generally.

For flu vaccines, the companies have to determine (be told) which strains to target and design for each year. And the process to make the vaccines is pretty involved, it’s not like making a chemical (small-molecule) pill. They have to stock up inventories not knowing if it will be a big season or a small one (the predictions are not very reliable) where they are left with huge stocks unused and useless going forward.

There are few companies willing to get into the area, and even then only with agreements from big countries to buy (some) excess product. It’s actually a pubic health concern that we don’t have bigger pharma presence.

And as for childhood vaccines being a boom business, at 4m/yr kids @$50, that’s $200m, or a rounding error for the $600b pharma business in the US.

So shorter, Stallworth is full of shit and talking out of his ass.

226 austin_blue  Sep 6, 2014 11:16:05pm

We just got half an inch of rain!

Nature’s god has smiled upon South Austin. It smells so damn GOOD, right now.

227 austin_blue  Sep 6, 2014 11:41:20pm

re: #225 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

To get back to the Stallworth hire and his views, I want to address one of his conspiracy claims about vaccines and pharma. There are certainly reasons to be skeptical about Big Pharma, or the whole system in general, but it doesn’t apply to the vaccine area. It’s a shitty business generally.

For flu vaccines, the companies have to determine (be told) which strains to target and design for each year. And the process to make the vaccines is pretty involved, it’s not like making a chemical (small-molecule) pill. They have to stock up inventories not knowing if it will be a big season or a small one (the predictions are not very reliable) where they are left with huge stocks unused and useless going forward.

There are few companies willing to get into the area, and even then only with agreements from big countries to buy (some) excess product. It’s actually a pubic health concern that we don’t have bigger pharma presence.

And as for childhood vaccines being a boom business, at 4m/yr kids @$50, that’s $200m, or a rounding error for the $600b pharma business in the US.

So shorter, Stallworth is full of shit and talking out of his ass.

Great post. Vaccines are not the huge moneymakers for the Pharmas that people seem to imagine. CDC looks at what strains are active in Australia in July (their winter) and other Southern Hemisphere countries to try to predict what will be active five months later in the US.

It is and has always been a crapshoot because flu viruses have always been so mutable.

More disturbing is Stallworth’s misunderstanding of how viral and bacteriological vaccines (live vs. dead) are used in infant and youth vaccinations.

My parents used to tell me how stunned and scared they were by the stories of other parents who had kids born only ten years before them (I was born in ‘56, the oldest of five) and how thankful they were that the polio vaccine had been found before they had their own children. The anti-vaxers have no idea the damage they are doing to *all* children.

Ignorant and selfish is no way to present yourself to your neighbors.

And don’t get me started on Stallworth’s position on climate change. As a member of the Curia of Bruce Sterling’s Viridian Movement, I can’t even begin to address the ignorance that that entails.

228 freetoken  Sep 7, 2014 1:14:33am

MP3 Audio

229 freetoken  Sep 7, 2014 3:26:34am

Rarely do I venture into the wider shoals of television land but the other day I caught an episode of MTV’s Snack Off.

The Idiocracy has arrived, for sure.

It’s a Chopped rip-off, with extra extra helpings of infantilism.

I think I’ll stick to streaming mp3s….

230 freetoken  Sep 7, 2014 3:30:08am

MP3 Audio

231 Pip's Squeak  Sep 7, 2014 3:55:49am

re: #230 freetoken

La Mer?

232 alpuz  Sep 7, 2014 4:19:24am

re: #226 austin_blue

I miss South Austin. Best grub around.

233 freetoken  Sep 7, 2014 4:32:27am

re: #231 Pip’s Squeak

La Mer?

Oui.

234 urbanmeemaw  Sep 7, 2014 4:55:29am

re: #217 wrenchwench

{{{{{WW}}}}}

235 BongCrodny  Sep 7, 2014 5:04:47am

re: #225 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

And as for childhood vaccines being a boom business, at 4m/yr kids @$50, that’s $200m, or a rounding error for the $600b pharma business in the US.

So shorter, Stallworth is full of shit and talking out of his ass.

Agree completely with both of the above points.

Looking at the CDC’s price list for vaccines, the most expensive children’s vaccine was for MMR/Varicella (“Measles, Mumps, Rubicells” at $158), and most vaccines are of the “one and done” variety.

Compare that with a medication I’m on, Spiriva. Spiriva is a COPD medication that can cost up to $2,000 per month if you don’t have insurance; the company that makes it had sales of $4.7 billion in 2012 for Spiriva alone, and Bristol Myers Squibb reported sales in 2013 of Abilify of $1.7 billion in the U.S. alone.

Like you said, vaccines are a crapshoot. It’s the medications people need on a daily or regular basis that make the big money.

236 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 5:42:36am

Good morning Lizards.

Rain in Pittsburgh yesterday evening and overnight and cool. 50s this morning and only getting into the mid-70s today.

Dragonfish with a side of monkeys

237 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 5:58:47am

Good morning! Beautiful cool September days like today makes me really glad to be alive. Unfortunately it also reminds me of 9-11. My daughter is a senior this year and today she is going to audition for one of the leads in Shrek, please wish her luck. She had the lead in Hello Dolly and I really hope she gets a great part in this play.

238 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 7, 2014 5:58:51am

We’re without power since Friday night. I’m using my phone on the car charger.

239 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 7, 2014 6:03:46am

That same storm system thrashed us in Wisconsin on Thursday. They just got the power back to everyone around here and some roads are still flooded.

240 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 7, 2014 6:11:57am

Good morning lizards!

A historical mystery has been solved…

241 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 6:20:55am

re: #237 Flounder

Good morning! Beautiful cool September days like today makes me really glad to be alive. Unfortunately it also reminds me of 9-11. My daughter is a senior this year and today she is going to audition for one of the leads in Shrek, please wish her luck. She had the lead in Hello Dolly and I really hope she gets a great part in this play.

If she’s large, green and has horns for ears she has a good shot at the lead!!

//

(G’Luck, Flounder daughter!)

242 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 7, 2014 6:21:27am

DTE energy says power won’t be restored until Friday. Until fucking Friday!

243 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 6:22:39am

Mornin’ everyone…Midwest storms? In September? We’ve had a week of 70 degree days and haven’t seen fog in over a month. I’m going to have to start wearing moisturizer if this keeps up.

It’s starting to have a permanent effect on Banjo…I think his face is going to be stuck like this.

I know…he’s not tethered. Laws mean nothing to that dog.

244 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 6:26:40am

re: #242 Pie-onist Overlord

I have a generator you are welcome to have (or trade for some of your bread!) but I am in New York. I am sorry to hear about your power problems.

245 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 6:27:30am

re: #243 darthstar

Moisturizer!? I bet that makes your skin very supple…

246 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 6:27:47am

re: #243 darthstar

I know…he’s not tethered. Laws mean nothing to that dog.
ScofDog

247 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 6:32:15am

re: #244 Flounder

I have a generator you are welcome to have (or trade for some of your bread!) but I am in New York. I am sorry to hear about your power problems.

Yeah. With the spring/ summer pop-up thunder storms we get here in Atlanta, not to mention the ice storms that knock out power for a week or so every other year, one of the 1st things i did when we moved here was invest in a generator/ UPS system.

248 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 6:35:09am

re: #244 Flounder

I have a generator you are welcome to have (or trade for some of your bread!) but I am in New York. I am sorry to hear about your power problems.

I’ll throw in an extra 100 ft of extension cord. How much more to reach Michigan?

249 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 6:38:00am

re: #248 darthstar

I’ll throw in an extra 100 ft of extension cord. How much more to reach Michigan?

That the cord you borrowed from me and NEVER RETURNED!?!?!?!
/

250 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 6:38:59am

re: #249 sattv4u2

That the cord you borrowed from me and NEVER RETURNED!?!?!?!
/

Lend it forward.

251 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 6:39:31am

re: #242 Pie-onist Overlord

DTE energy says power won’t be restored until Friday. Until fucking Friday!

Any offspring you could stay with within driving distance?

252 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 6:59:50am

Tough day today. I hate the Dallas Cowboys, so want them to lose. I also dislike the 49ers, and can’t stand office chit-chat for the week after they get a win “Destiny!”…feh.

Oh well…there are ties in the NFL…one can hope. 0-0 would be even better.

253 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:01:57am

re: #252 darthstar

Tough day today. I hate the Dallas Cowboys, so want them to lose. I also dislike the 49ers, and can’t stand office chit-chat for the week after they get a win “Destiny!”…feh.

Oh well…there are ties in the NFL…one can hope. 0-0 would be even better.

Well. you get a break in Week 1. Your Vikings, although playing an away game, get a team that just lost their starting QB

254 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:03:03am

re: #253 sattv4u2

Well. you get a break in Week 1. Your Vikings, although playing an away game, get a team that just lost their starting QB

If St. Louis’ defense could get arrested for drunk driving, that would help too.

255 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:09:26am

re: #254 darthstar

If St. Louis’ defense could get arrested for drunk driving, that would help too.

meanwhile ,,, while the Patriots are playing AT Miami,,,,, I’ll be taking the long, not-so-quiet drive (I’ll have my wife and two dogs in the car) to the beach

256 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:10:14am
257 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:12:08am

re: #255 sattv4u2

meanwhile ,,, while the Patriots are playing AT Miami,,,,, I’ll be taking the long, not-so-quiet drive (I’ll have my wife and two dogs in the car) to the beach

Enjoy your holiday.

258 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:14:40am

re: #257 darthstar

Enjoy your holiday.

Thanks

Golf Monday, Wednesday and Friday
Early a.m. walk on the beach with the dogs each day
Dinner on Tuesday with a friend from Boston that I haven’t seen in 25 (or so) years that recently moved to the Myrtle Beach area

Looking forward to it all

259 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 7:17:33am

re: #253 sattv4u2

Well. you get a break in Week 1. Your Vikings, although playing an away game, get a team that just lost their starting QB

The good news is that because its St. Louis, the Vikings will have a significant number of fans in the stands. Not as many as the Bears or Packers would have, but enough.

And if the Vikings win and the Cowboys lose, then tomorrow Darthstar can walk around the office swinging his dick while proclaiming that the Vikings won while “better” teams lost.

260 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:19:46am

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

The good news is that because its St. Louis, the Vikings will have a significant number of fans in the stands. Not as many as the Bears or Packers would have, but enough.

And if the Vikings win and the Cowboys lose, then tomorrow Darthstar can walk around the office swinging his dick while proclaiming that the Vikings won while “better” teams lost.

That’s not ‘good news” for those in the office!

261 Dr Lizardo  Sep 7, 2014 7:20:06am

re: #240 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

A historical mystery has been solved…

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Kosminkski was identified as a suspect for Jack the Ripper by the investigators back then; the Whitechapel Murders (of which Jack the Ripper’s murders were a part of) stopped in February of 1891 - which was the same time as Aaron Kosminski was sent to an insane asylum, where he remained for the rest of his life.

262 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:20:18am

This is pretty funny…check it out.

Image: svbeck.jpg

263 Eventual Carrion  Sep 7, 2014 7:20:57am

re: #253 sattv4u2

Well. you get a break in Week 1. Your Vikings, although playing an away game, get a team that just lost their starting QB

Today is going to be a good day. It’s my birthday. NFL in full swing today. Steelers vs Browns. I live in PA on the border of OH. Pretty much half the town are Steelers fans and half are Browns fans. My favorite bar is pretty much split down the middle too. I am going to go there, knock back a couple, yell at Browns fans while they yell at me. It will be great.

264 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:21:24am

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

You say ‘swinging his dick’ like it’s a bad thing.

265 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:21:40am

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

Today is going to be a good day. It’s my birthday. NFL in full swing today. Steelers vs Browns. I live in PA on the border of OH. Pretty much half the town are Steelers fans and half are Browns fans. My favorite bar is pretty much split down the middle too. I am going to go there, knock back a couple, yell at Browns fans while they yell at me. It will be great.

Enjoy, and Happy Birthday

266 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2014 7:23:35am

re: #232 alpuz

I miss South Austin. Best grub around.

Taco Deli!

267 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 7:24:12am

re: #264 darthstar

You say ‘swinging his dick’ like it’s a bad thing.

Not at all, I just figured that since you like to make penis references where I’m concerned, I’d return the favor. I knew I wouldn’t offend you and I figured it was a way of letting you know I actually do have a sense of humor in such matters.

268 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:25:25am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

((((((you really didn’t have to ‘splain))))))

269 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 7:26:03am

headdesk

270 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2014 7:27:00am

re: #221 wrenchwench

OK, I gotta hit the hay. Thanks so much for all the support.

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Later, lizards.

Reminds me of:

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271 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:27:20am

re: #269 Flounder

headdesk

because ,,,,,,, nothing better to do,,,,, or a fly landed on your forehead and you figured that was the best way to kill it ,,,,, or ,,,!?!?!?!?

272 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 7:28:34am

re: #262 darthstar

This is pretty funny…check it out.

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Image: svbeck.jpg

Loves it. That flyer is a monument to that couple’s vanity. They don’t give to causes for the sense of help their fellow humans, they do it for the ego boost.

273 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 7:29:33am

re: #268 sattv4u2

((((((you really didn’t have to ‘splain))))))

It’s Dathstar, so I did have to explain.

274 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:31:26am

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

It’s Dathstar, so I did have to explain.

((((((you really didn’t have to ‘splain))))))

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 7:32:25am

Hmm, Gus isn’t on line, but no reason not to drop in a few airplane photos for him to stumble upon later today. :)

USAF museum at Wright-Patterson.

P-26 Peashooter

Head-on view

276 A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2014 7:33:53am

re: #217 wrenchwench

(((WW))) take care of yourself. Sorry about your Dad. Sigh.

277 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 7:39:12am

So today I have planned pulling the 5.5 horsepower lawnmower type engine that runs a 11 gallon per minute hydraulic pump in a vertical orientation off of my log-splitter and replacing it with an 8 horsepower horizontal shaft gas engine. I have to weld together an adapter bracket to mount the hydraulic pump and then re-plump the return line, as well as welding on an additional mounting plate to hold the larger engine. At some point this will allow me to upgrade the 11 GPM two stage hydraulic pump to a larger 16 GPM pump. Bigger pump means shorter log-splitting cycle times which means time saved, which means I WIN!

If women don’t find you handsome at least they find you handy.

Also, chicken marsala for dinner with home-made bread, I might even warsh my hands before cooking!

278 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:41:06am

re: #275 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, Gus isn’t on line, but no reason not to drop in a few airplane photos for him to stumble upon later today. :)

USAF museum at Wright-Patterson.

P-26 Peashooter

[Embedded image]Head-on view

I’m here. Drinking coffee and rubbing mah neck.

279 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:46:39am

re: #278 Gus

I’m here. Drinking coffee and rubbing mah neck.

Well, put your neck back in your pants and do something constructive!

280 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 7:46:57am

re: #278 Gus

I’m here. Drinking coffee and rubbing mah neck.

Have any picture requests? I’m sorting and resizing the pics from Wright-Patt. Might be able to post something in particular if I have a snap of it.

281 Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2014 7:47:02am

re: #277 Flounder

Then you can mount a larger cylinder, and upgrade the hoses. The name for that cycle is “shipwright’s disease”.

282 Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2014 7:47:28am

Trolling? Asshole? Both?

283 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:48:34am

Except I’m not actually thinking about penises.

284 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:48:45am

re: #280 Feline Fearless Leader

Have any picture requests? I’m sorting and resizing the pics from Wright-Patt. Might be able to post something in particular if I have a snap of it.

Got a P-47 Thunderbolt?

285 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:49:25am

re: #279 sattv4u2

Well, put your neck back in your pants and do something constructive!

Leave him alone.

286 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:50:05am

re: #285 darthstar

Leave him alone.

That’s what I keep saying.

//

287 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 7:51:33am

re: #280 Feline Fearless Leader

Have any picture requests? I’m sorting and resizing the pics from Wright-Patt. Might be able to post something in particular if I have a snap of it.

Have you got any B-17 and B-29 photos from there?

288 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:53:44am
289 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 7:55:01am

re: #282 Dr. Matt

Trolling? Asshole? Both?

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The answer is “all of the above.”

290 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 7:55:33am

re: #285 darthstar

Leave him alone.

No problem

I’ve got my own neck to rub

291 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 7:55:46am

re: #288 darthstar

Todd makes any sentient being squirm. He’s an asshole of media proportions.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 7:56:09am

re: #284 Gus

Got a P-47 Thunderbolt?

Four - of two different aircraft.

293 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 7:56:32am

re: #286 Gus

re: #286 Gus

That’s what I keep saying.

//

That’s what she said! //

294 ObserverArt  Sep 7, 2014 7:57:12am

So…anyone watching Chuckless Todd in his new Meet The Press gig?

I am. And I am sorry I am…but he is interviewing Pres. Obama and doing his best to try to smarm his way to making Obama look bad.

Ugh.

295 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 7:57:40am

re: #290 sattv4u2

No problem

I’ve got my own neck to rub

We’re going to run out of moisturizer.

296 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:57:41am

re: #292 Feline Fearless Leader

Four - of two different aircraft.

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Gee BEE?

297 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 7:57:51am

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

Have you got any B-17 and B-29 photos from there?

A few - I’ll put them up shortly. The B-17 is placed made a full photo of it essentially impossible. Much the same for the B-29, but I have a head-on and nose art photo for it since it’s a historically significant aircraft.

298 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:58:15am

Oops. Have Adblock on…

299 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 7:58:31am

re: #282 Dr. Matt

Both.

While those blackhats are at it, they might as well dig up Trump’s college records, and private emails. Then we’ll hear him squeal when he’s the target of illegal activity.

300 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 7:59:29am

re: #292 Feline Fearless Leader

Four - of two different aircraft.

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Nice. I like the yellow.

301 Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2014 7:59:32am

re: #297 Feline Fearless Leader

A few - I’ll put them up shortly. The B-17 is placed made a full photo of it essentially impossible. Much the same for the B-29, but I have a head-on and nose art photo for it since it’s a historically significant aircraft.

Aluminum Overcast is visiting our town in a month. Might bring the grandkid down to sit in it.

eaa.org

302 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 8:00:13am

re: #294 ObserverArt

So…anyone watching Chuckless Todd in his new Meet The Press gig?

I am. And I am sorry I am…but he is interviewing Pres. Obama and doing his best to try to smarm his way to making Obama look bad.

Ugh.

Zack Galifianakis probably could do a better job.

303 Flounder  Sep 7, 2014 8:00:57am

re: #281 Decatur Deb

What can I say other than I am passionate about wood.

304 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 8:02:49am

305 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:05:37am

re: #297 Feline Fearless Leader

A few - I’ll put them up shortly. The B-17 is placed made a full photo of it essentially impossible. Much the same for the B-29, but I have a head-on and nose art photo for it since it’s a historically significant aircraft.

Thank you.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:05:42am

Here’s the B-17 bits. The sign for the first might be hard to read; the section was found in 1993 being used as part of a shed on a farm in Germany.

307 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 8:07:38am
308 darthstar  Sep 7, 2014 8:08:06am
309 Kid A  Sep 7, 2014 8:09:44am

re: #282 Dr. Matt

Trolling? Asshole? Both?

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All of the above. I was in Vegas last month and there is nothing more awesome than Trump’s hotel/casino in the slums of Fremont.

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:11:40am

B-29 photos

311 Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2014 8:14:28am
312 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 8:15:03am

Bob Dylan’s face on the side of a London telephone exchange box

Tracey Dunn spotted the face of Bob Dylan worn into the front of a London telephone exchange box.

Tracey, from Liverpool, who was visiting her sister in east London, said: “It was amazing - you can definitely tell who it looks like. It was obviously made by accident. I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was a message from Bob, because he’s still alive.”

313 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:15:28am

The fact this photo came out was sort of surprising. Lots of black on black and unevenly lit.

BUFF

314 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:16:27am

re: #306 Feline Fearless Leader

Here’s the B-17 bits. The sign for the first might be hard to read; the section was found in 1993 being used as part of a shed on a farm in Germany.

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Any left side shots? I didn’t see the B-17’s name.

Those are great photos, though.

315 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 8:17:38am

re: #310 Feline Fearless Leader

Is the Memphis Belle on display, or is it still being refurbished?

316 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 8:19:33am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

Any left side shots? I didn’t see the B-17’s name.

Those are great photos, though.

nationalmuseum.af.mil

317 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:20:09am

re: #308 darthstar

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Chuck Todd is just sticking to his script and stroking his own ego. He already had that interview framed in his mind and was not going to change how it came out just because of some facts or unexpected answers.

318 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:20:17am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

Any left side shots? I didn’t see the B-17’s name.

Those are great photos, though.

No nose art shot. It’s not the Memphis Belle since I don’t think it was a G-type with the chin turret. Odd that I skipped that shot since I did nose art on most of the bombers like the B-24 at a minimum.

Could probably find it on Wikipedia.
(Shoo Shoo Baby)
en.wikipedia.org

319 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 8:20:24am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

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within 3,000 of geosynchronous satellites! (I just hope it doesn’t happen in the middle of the football games!!!)
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320 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 8:25:29am

re: #306 Feline Fearless Leader

What’s that thing strapped below the nose? Looks like an airplane goatee.

321 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:26:29am

I was at this museum three years ago with a Canon Coolpix.

Coolpix shot - after some manipulation

What a difference having a better DSLR makes in certain lighting conditions.

Nikon shot with no manipulation

322 Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2014 8:28:22am
323 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:28:40am

re: #320 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What’s that thing strapped below the nose? Looks like an airplane goatee.

The chin turret? Added those to the B-17 and B-24 in later models due to the fact that the planes had weak directly forward firepower and German fighters were purposefully making head-on attacks to exploit it.

324 sattv4u2  Sep 7, 2014 8:28:49am

And on that note, the long not-so-quiet drive to Pawleys island South Carolina beckons

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:31:16am

And the entrance to the Cold War section shows that they are being very clear about what might have been at stake.

Cold War - but still tettering on the edge

326 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 8:39:56am

Turns out I have little in common with that pro-NSA crowd.

327 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 8:41:51am

re: #323 Feline Fearless Leader

The chin turret? Added those to the B-17 and B-24 in later models due to the fact that the planes had weak directly forward firepower and German fighters were purposefully making head-on attacks to exploit it.

Thanks. That thing looks unstable. Wouldn’t want to be the person in there. The angle makes it hard to see the guns.

328 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 8:44:38am

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

Chuck Todd is just sticking to his script and stroking his own ego. He already had that interview framed in his mind and was not going to change how it came out just because of some facts or unexpected answers.

Award-winning journalist Charles J. Johnson calls that RESEARCH!!

329 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 8:45:46am

“Your Tweets earned 973.1K impressions over the last 28 days”

ZOMG!

330 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:46:03am

re: #327 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Thanks. That thing looks unstable. Wouldn’t want to be the person in there. The angle makes it hard to see the guns.

As a comparison here’s a front area shot of a B-24 Model D.

The nose was redone on later models to include a turret with two .50 caliber machine guns.

331 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:48:14am

re: #318 Feline Fearless Leader

No nose art shot. It’s not the Memphis Belle since I don’t think it was a G-type with the chin turret. Odd that I skipped that shot since I did nose art on most of the bombers like the B-24 at a minimum.

Could probably find it on Wikipedia.
(Shoo Shoo Baby)
en.wikipedia.org

Thank you for the details.

332 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 8:50:37am

re: #322 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

TODD: You got to go to Syria in some form or another.

OBAMA: I’ll tell you what, Chuck. Here’s a ticket for the 3:15 Acela train to Damascus. I’ll catch up with you.

333 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:51:50am

re: #321 Feline Fearless Leader

I was at this museum three years ago with a Canon Coolpix.

Coolpix shot - after some manipulation

What a difference having a better DSLR makes in certain lighting conditions.

[Embedded image]Nikon shot with no manipulation

Ah, the SR-71. Beautiful aircraft and it PWNed the USSR but good. Try as they might, the Russians could make the MiG-25 fast enough to catch the SR-71, and so the US once again had a viable manned recon plane that could make runs through Soviet airspace.

335 Gus  Sep 7, 2014 8:53:47am
336 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 7, 2014 8:54:19am

Off to a BBQ and to watch the Steelers-Browns game. Stay scaly everyone!

337 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 8:56:46am

re: #335 Gus

[Embedded content]

Who is calling for that, Gus? Nobody I know of in Congress. Even John McCain is only calling for sending arms to Ukraine, and has clearly ruled out direct US military involvement.

338 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 8:57:10am

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi

Is the Memphis Belle on display, or is it still being refurbished?

Speaking of which, Mark Harris’ new book “Five Came Back: A Story of Hollywood and the Second World War,” about the wartime experiences of directors John Ford, William Wyler, John Huston, Frank Capra, and George Stevens, has some great info about the making of Wyler’s 1944 documentary “Memphis Belle, A Story of a Flying Fortress.”

339 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2014 8:57:11am

Comment withdrawn by request

340 Teukka  Sep 7, 2014 8:59:45am

Off-Topic, I know, but…

WTFITS!?

Finland wants to join Russia [Original]

*flips desk*
*puts desk on fire*
*carpet bombs burning desk for good measure*

I tried to check the story out with the sources given, and found nothing. ZERO. ZIP. ZILCH. NADA. I did find the fallout on Finnish forums from the previous iteration of this story in Pravda (back in mid/late March) which basically had all the people (but one (maybe)) mentioned in the story denying they had ever written or said such tripe, even when wasted beyond belief.

Checking with my mom, I got a look to which I asked “WTF have you been smoking level, eh?” She responded “My son, the question is WTF have they been drinking, snorting, injecting, taken rectally and smoking - simultaneously.”

I find this a bit concerning, because Russia has been sabre-rattling about there being a “response” if the newest set of sanctions are enacted, and it is reminiscent of the situation shortly before the SHTF in Ukraine.

341 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 9:01:42am

re: #338 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of which, Mark Harris’ new book “Five Came Back: A Story of Hollywood and the Second World War,” about the wartime experiences of directors John Ford, William Wyler, John Huston, Frank Capra, and George Stevens, has some great info about the making of the latter’s 1944 documentary “Memphis Belle, A Story of a Flying Fortress.”

I thought Wyler did the movie, or maybe I’m thinking of another docu he did.

Some film stars (Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart, for example) and Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry also served on B-17s.

342 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 9:03:34am

re: #340 Teukka

Off-Topic, I know, but…

WTFITS!?

Finland wants to join Russia
[Original].


That’s funny, nobody told us about that. /

343 Dark_Falcon  Sep 7, 2014 9:03:44am

re: #339 Rightwingconspirator

RWC, please don’t bring that issue from last night up today. It got me in very hot water with Charles, and revisiting it will do me only harm.

I was to some extent trolling with that gun ad. I could have presented it in a neutral format and just posted the link and I’d have been OK. But I presented it in a provocative fashion and posted the video as well. That was wrong and Charles, Darthstar, Lidane and others were right to smack me down for it.

I’m sorry I was an asshole last night, and I won’t do it again.

BBL

344 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 9:05:09am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi

I thought Wyler did the movie, or maybe I’m thinking of another docu he did.

Some film stars (Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart, for example) and Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry also served on B-17s.

You’re absolutely correct, it was William Wyler (not to be confused with Billy Wilder’s much less talented brother Willy Wilder, director of such forgotten non-classics as The Snow Creature, “in which a Himalayan yeti wrangles with U .S. Customs officials”). Text corrected, thanks.

345 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2014 9:06:54am

re: #343 Dark_Falcon

Done.

Not gonna get in the habit of leaving factually incorrect comments that attack the sport unanswered though.

346 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2014 9:08:04am
347 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 7, 2014 9:09:24am

re: #343 Dark_Falcon

RWC, please don’t bring that issue from last night up today. It got me in very hot water with Charles, and revisiting it will do me only harm.

I was to some extent trolling with that gun ad. I could have presented it in a neutral format and just posted the link and I’d have been OK. But I presented it in a provocative fashion and posted the video as well. That was wrong and Charles, Darthstar, Lidane and others were right to smack me down for it.

I’m sorry I was an asshole last night, and I won’t do it again.

BBL

I came in late to that exchange last night, but I have to say it was an interesting discussion. I didn’t see the offending post before it was removed, so it must have been something.

348 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2014 9:12:56am

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It was a video ad for a pistol by a major maker. I get Charles not wanting an ad for guns posted here. Fortunately discussion is another matter.

349 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 9:17:14am

re: #344 De Kolta Chair

You’re absolutely correct, it was William Wyler (not to be confused with Billy Wilder’s brother Willy Wilder). Text corrected.

I just watched Wyler’s Roman Holiday a couple of days ago, and had read the Wiki on him.

It was my first time to watch that movie, if you can believe that. Maybe I saw it on the WPIX-TV 4:30 movie when I was a kid, but if I did see it, it made no impression on me then. What a delightful movie! Total fluff, but so well done.

Audrey Hepburn was a newcomer, and was supposed to have lower billing than Gregory Peck. But after several days of working with her, Peck asked that she have billing after him and before the title, because he predicted she was going to be a star.

350 urbanmeemaw  Sep 7, 2014 9:21:03am

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

Happy Birthday!

351 urbanmeemaw  Sep 7, 2014 9:22:41am

re: #275 Feline Fearless Leader

I love that place!

352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 7, 2014 9:26:26am

re: #340 Teukka

Off-Topic, I know, but…

WTFITS!?

Finland wants to join Russia [Original]

*flips desk*
*puts desk on fire*
*carpet bombs burning desk for good measure*

I tried to check the story out with the sources given, and found nothing. ZERO. ZIP. ZILCH. NADA. I did find the fallout on Finnish forums from the previous iteration of this story in Pravda (back in mid/late March) which basically had all the people (but one (maybe)) mentioned in the story denying they had ever written or said such tripe, even when wasted beyond belief.

Checking with my mom, I got a look to which I asked “WTF have you been smoking level, eh?” She responded “My son, the question is WTF have they been drinking, snorting, injecting, taken rectally and smoking - simultaneously.”

I find this a bit concerning, because Russia has been sabre-rattling about there being a “response” if the newest set of sanctions are enacted, and it is reminiscent of the situation shortly before the SHTF in Ukraine.

Friends in F inland tell me that there is a glut of products on the market that they cannot sell to Russia, like “Putin butter”, I suggested they get round party crackers and serve Putin on the Ritz.

353 urbanmeemaw  Sep 7, 2014 9:28:02am

Actual pic of Chuckles from Bleat The Mess:

The “Real Chuck” is on the right…

354 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 9:29:18am

This is a nicer photo, less likely to give someone nightmares.

Audrey Hepburn, by Richard Avedon

355 De Kolta Chair  Sep 7, 2014 9:35:04am

re: #349 wheat-dogghazi

I just watched Wyler’s Roman Holiday a couple of days ago, and had read the Wiki on him.

I caught that the other day too. Delightful indeed. I always get a kick out of Eddie Albert as the bearded photographer, Irving. I spoke with Mr. Peck once over the phone, for a minute at the most. Somebody had told him that Bob Dylan had written and recorded a song mentioning him (Brownsville Girl), so he called Sony to verify it. A friend of mine in pr there patched him over to me, the Dylan freak. Funny thing is, the song had been out for at least ten years and Peck had only just heard about it!

356 Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2014 9:39:48am
357 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 7, 2014 9:42:33am

re: #355 De Kolta Chair

I caught that the other day too. Delightful indeed. I always get a kick out of Eddie Albert as the bearded photographer, Irving. I spoke with Mr. Peck once over the phone, for a minute at the most. Somebody had told him that Bob Dylan had written and recorded a song mentioning him (Brownsville Girl), so he called Sony to verify it. A friend of mine in pr there patched him over to me, the Dylan freak. Funny thing is, the song had come out at least ten years before and Peck had only just heard about it!

I’m envious, though I did get to see him in the flesh, briefly, when he dropped off his daughter Cecilia at Princeton years ago. Now I wish I had had the nerve to go over and greet him properly. It’s not often you get to meet a Hollywood legend, after all.

358 Stanley Sea  Sep 7, 2014 9:44:11am

Just tried my salt cured salmon. Success!!!!!

Got fresh bagels, cream cheese, red onion and capers.

What a feast.

359 Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2014 9:46:04am

re: #326 Gus

Turns out I have little in common with that pro-NSA crowd.

Yeah, politically most of the NSA defenders are pretty hard right.

360 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2014 9:53:34am

re: #326 Gus

Turns out I have little in common with that pro-NSA crowd.

I saw an article that made a great case for breaking up the NSA’s jobs. Not by way of destroying the agency but by way of an apropriate division of labor. In that top paragraph, by way of context that’s foreign political espionage. We keep the military stuff secret, and put domestic work under the justice department, not secret.

Wired

…The way I see it, the problem is that the NSA has too many missions: a military mission dedicated to network attacks and political espionage, a law enforcement mission focused on individual bad actors across the globe, and a defensive mission devoted to protecting the nation’s information infrastructure…

…Take the NSA’s military mission. Spying on foreign governments properly belongs within the Department of Defense under US Cyber Command. These days, espionage requires offensive actions in cyberspace—for example, breaking into networks and installing malware. These NSA programs should be treated with the same sensitivity as any other military operation. Attacking a foreign computer network is potentially an act of war, and we should be very careful in choosing to do so.

But the NSA’s extensive domestic and foreign surveillance of individuals is an activity that is properly placed inside the Justice Department. There it can be subject to standard domestic law: the Constitution, the warrant process, conventional courts, and much less secrecy. These are mechanisms we have long used to protect ourselves while giving the police, for example, extraordinary powers of investigation.

361 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2014 10:04:10am

re: #358 Stanley Sea

Just tried my salt cured salmon. Success!!!!!

Got fresh bagels, cream cheese, red onion and capers.

What a feast.

That’s awesome! Enjoy!

362 PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2014 10:05:02am

re: #358 Stanley Sea

That sounds great.

363 Patricia Kayden  Sep 7, 2014 10:06:41am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read Levenson’s email and see nothing racist or offensive about it. He was just stating his opinions about the demographics of his team’s supporters. Oh well. Perhaps he just wants to move on.

364 Stanley Sea  Sep 7, 2014 10:07:56am

re: #361 GlutenFreeJesus

That’s awesome! Enjoy!

Thank you for the tip. I will definitely do this again.

365 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2014 10:26:33am

re: #364 Stanley Sea

Thank you for the tip. I will definitely do this again.

You bet. I need to grab some smoked salt next time I see some and use some of that too.

Oh and eggs Benedict too.


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