Dumbest Man on the Internet Uses Crazy Oathkeepers Militia as Fear-Mongering Source

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Written with his typical random use of bold markup and capitalization, Jim Hoft, fabled Dumbest Man on the Internet, is now using the Oathkeepers militia group as a source for his latest incredibly dim fear-mongering post: REPORT… TX Rancher: Terrorists on Wanted List Were Caught Crossing Into US (Video) | the Gateway Pundit.

In case you’re wondering how much credibility the Oathkeepers have as a source, they’re one of the most extreme right wing militia groups in the US, and one of many offshoots of the Patriot movement with numerous ties to white nationalist and xenophobic anti-immigrant groups. Their founder, Stewart Rhodes, believes Barack Obama is plotting to disarm American citizens and turn US cities into “giant concentration camps.” And their stated purpose is to be ready to fight in a revolution against the US government.

In a way this is a step up for the DMOTI; at least he isn’t citing overt white nationalists this time, just people with numerous ties to them.

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1 Tigger2  Sep 8, 2014 5:17:41pm

I’m feared very feared.

2 aagcobb  Sep 8, 2014 5:19:53pm

This demented birther got suspended from the St.L. County Police department after the video of him saying “I’m into diversity, I kill everybody” during a speech at an Oathkeeper meeting surfaced.

3 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:20:50pm

REPORT…

4 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:23:34pm

Those have to be the dumbest terrorists ever. I wonder what their IQ is or how many books a week they read?

5 thedopefishlives  Sep 8, 2014 5:23:41pm

re: #3 Gus

REPORT…

That’s got about as much factual content in it as a Dim Jim Hoft post.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2014 5:25:38pm

Weren’t those nutjobs who killed the cops in Vegas earlier this year part of that group?

7 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 5:26:16pm

re: #4 b.d.

Those have to be the dumbest terrorists ever. I wonder what their IQ is or how many books a week they read?

And do they show off their Glocks to compensate for lack of manhood.

8 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:26:44pm

MURDEROUS GAY MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARE BRINGING IN ISIS TERRORISTS WITH EBOLA!!!

[hair bursts into fire]

9 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:26:46pm

Middle Eastern terrorists coming into the US via the Texas/Mexican border makes about as much sense as preparing for your moon launch by drilling to the earth’s core.

10 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:26:57pm

These militia idiots thought a bunch of bat researchers from the USA were “illegal immigrants” so I somehow doubt they can tell the difference between a Central American and a Middle Easterner.

11 thedopefishlives  Sep 8, 2014 5:27:01pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

MURDEROUS GAY MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARE BRINGING IN ISIS TERRORISTS WITH EBOLA!!!

[hair bursts into fire]

Bingo!

What’s my prize?

12 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:27:47pm

I’VE TALKED TO AGENTS! REALLY! CROSS MY HEART AND HOPE TO DIE OF EBOLA!

13 dholmes32  Sep 8, 2014 5:28:17pm

Oh, hai.

On the last post someone was talking about why Janay Palmer would go ahead and marry Ray Rice and said it was for $$$$$$. I didn’t get to read all the thread, but I just thought I’d point out that Rice likely had Palmer sign a prenuptial agreement. His lawyer would have likely told him to do it. Don’t know if that happened, but just noting it’s entirely possible.

Now, look at this lovely picture of Lake Parking Lot taken near my house in Mesa, AZ about noon today. Many parking lots, roads and other places have standing water in them because it rained so much this morning (about 4-5 inches). And some of these lots, roads, etc., don’t have drainage.

Lake Parking Lot, Mesa, AZ

It’s also blazingly sunny right now. Twelve hours ago it was pouring down rain. Weird.

14 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 5:28:43pm

keeping oats is pointless

store up on peanut butter and tuna fish instead

15 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:30:05pm

[x] TERROR BABIES
[x] BIG MEXICAN WOMEN (BMWs)
[x] TERRORISTS ON WANTED LISTS

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 5:30:43pm
17 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:31:04pm

So wait. They say these people they allegedly caught were on wanted lists yet they can’t identify them? Then they say they handed them over to Homeland and that was the last they heard of it?

18 De Kolta Chair  Sep 8, 2014 5:31:37pm
Their founder, Stewart Rhodes, believes Barack Obama is plotting to disarm American citizens and turn US cities into “giant concentration camps.”

In that case, I’ll skip voting in tomorrow’s primary. It might be a trap. //

19 Lidane  Sep 8, 2014 5:32:05pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

MURDEROUS GAY MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARE BRINGING IN ISIS TERRORISTS WITH EBOLA!!!

[hair bursts into fire]

I HAVE CREDIBLE SOURCES! ISIS IZ IN JUAREZ! ELEVENTY!

/FB conservatives

20 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:32:48pm

Those Islamic Middle Eastern Terrorists don’t drink, I wonder if they would mind smuggling a bottle of Kahlua or Controy over for me?

21 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:32:56pm

Cartel members, gang bangers and Islamic radicals are crossing over into the US!!

22 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:33:01pm

re: #17 Gus

So wait. They say these people they allegedly caught were on wanted lists yet they can’t identify them? Then they say they handed them over to Homeland and that was the last they heard of it?

COVER UP!!!

23 thedopefishlives  Sep 8, 2014 5:33:35pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

>COVER UP!!!

Oh, hell. You said the words. Now Dylan Avery or some other mentally defective conspiracist is going to start in.

24 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:33:48pm

Wow - a lot of retweets for this one…

25 De Kolta Chair  Sep 8, 2014 5:34:43pm

Anchor babies, with exploding anchors!!!!

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 5:34:54pm
27 thedopefishlives  Sep 8, 2014 5:35:29pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

HE’S SUCKING OUT HER BRAINS!!11!!!

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Brains?! Get it right, you pinko commie shill, HE WANTS HER SOUL! OBUMMER IS TEH DEBIL!!!1!111!11ty

28 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:35:30pm

Bit Pesos

29 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:37:05pm

BMWS
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30 SteveMcGazi  Sep 8, 2014 5:37:36pm

re: #29 Gus

BMWS
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BAZINGA!!

31 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 5:37:54pm

re: #18 De Kolta Chair

Their founder, Stewart Rhodes, believes Barack Obama is plotting to disarm American citizens and turn US cities into “giant concentration camps.”

i hear the cities and suburbs will be turned into giant concentration camps where workers will be forced to either spend all day in cubes staring at computer screens, be forced to smile all day serving customers, or drive around large cumbersome vehicles, in return for tokens which must be spent on rent, food, or useless consumer electronics

sounds like a living hell

32 Lidane  Sep 8, 2014 5:38:26pm

re: #10 Gus

These militia idiots thought a bunch of bat researchers from the USA were “illegal immigrants” so I somehow doubt they can tell the difference between a Central American and a Middle Easterner.

They can’t tell the difference between bat researchers and illegal immigrants. And don’t get them started on the difference between a soccer jersey and a Muslim prayer rug.

It’s inevitable that these people will kill someone, or they’ll die in a shootout with Border Patrol agents who don’t miss when they fire at someone.

33 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:39:11pm

By the way, I’ll now be using donotlink . com for links to these right wing hate sites.

It’s very easy to use donotlink for any site… all you have to do is insert their domain name before the actual URL.

For example, this link to the DMOTI looks like this:

34 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:39:38pm

THERE’S PROOF THEY CAUGHT SOME IMPORTANT WANTED TERRORIST PEOPLE!

Really, who?

THEY WON’T TELL US AND THEY DENY IT

35 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 5:40:29pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

By the way, I’ll now be using donotlink . com for links to these right wing hate sites.

It’s very easy to use donotlink for any site… all you have to do is insert their domain name before the actual URL.

For example, this link to the DMOTI looks like this:

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i like donots, too

36 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:40:38pm

re: #32 Lidane

They can’t tell the difference between bat researchers and illegal immigrants. And don’t get them started on the difference between a soccer jersey and a Muslim prayer rug.

It’s inevitable that these people will kill someone, or they’ll die in a shootout with Border Patrol agents who don’t miss when they fire at someone.

“Sharron Angle Tells Hispanic Students they Look Asian”

Remember that?

37 De Kolta Chair  Sep 8, 2014 5:43:19pm

38 Franklin  Sep 8, 2014 5:43:39pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

By the way, I’ll now be using donotlink . com for links to these right wing hate sites.

It’s very easy to use donotlink for any site… all you have to do is insert their domain name before the actual URL.

For example, this link to the DMOTI looks like this:

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STOP MESSING WITH MY GOOGLE RANKINGS!!!!!11111

39 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:44:15pm

Look out! My head is expanding - I don’t know how big this thing is gonna get…

40 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:44:46pm

Mexican drug cartels and Middle Eastern terrorists, now there are two groups that I see working well together.

41 De Kolta Chair  Sep 8, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #40 b.d.

Mexican drug cartels and Middle Eastern terrorists, now there are two groups that I see working well together.

Can we all just dance the polka together?!!

42 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:47:32pm

Cartel members aren’t crossing the border. Are they serious? Cartel would send some unassociated drug mule for that task.

43 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:47:50pm

The advantage of using donotlink is that it stops the link from improving their search engine rankings. That’s why Chuck Johnson is so angry at Salon for using it — he wants people to spread his links to improve his SEO rankings.

And by the way, that’s why you should always post links to LGF everywhere you can! (Blatant self-plug alert.)

44 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 5:47:54pm

REPORT: MORE RWNJ BULLSHIT

45 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 5:50:19pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Weren’t those nutjobs who killed the cops in Vegas earlier this year part of that group?

No, they were free-lancers who tripped warning flags among the various Bundy factions. They were isolated for a few days, then told to leave because at least one of them was displaying weapons while admitting a felony conviction. Later the Oathkeepers split up under loud tension from a disagreement with non-OK militia.

46 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:50:34pm

Here’s some more info on donotlink and why you should use it for right wing sites:

donotlink.com

47 b_sharp  Sep 8, 2014 5:51:49pm

re: #35 dog philosopher

i like donots, too

Jelly filled.

48 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 5:52:30pm

Yes, yes…I totally misapprehend.

49 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 5:53:05pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Here’s some more info on donotlink and why you should use it for right wing sites:

donotlink.com

Looks useful. Does the volume of discussion within a site like this improve nutjob standing? The donotlink text reads that way.

50 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:53:53pm
51 Lidane  Sep 8, 2014 5:54:38pm

re: #42 Gus

Cartel members aren’t crossing the border. Are they serious? Cartel would send some unassociated drug mule Obummer worshipping ISIS terrorist for that task.

FTFY

///////

52 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:54:45pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Only if you link to the sites. It’s the link that improves their search engine ranking.

53 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 5:54:50pm

re: #42 Gus

Cartel members aren’t crossing the border. Are they serious? Cartel would send some unassociated drug mule for that task.

Yes, they are crossing the border, Gus. Cartel influence has been pretty conclusively demonstrated in Chicago and Milwaukee.

But what’s also true is that the cartel people go to some trouble to keep their US operations on the down-low. Taking over ranches is not something they’d do, as it would be too likely to be noticed.

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 5:55:10pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Upchuck is totally trolling now. He has a bunch more disgusting tweets about that.

55 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 5:55:47pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Only if you link to the sites. It’s the link that improves their search engine ranking.

Good. Most of my skulking is just reading caches a few hours old.

56 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 5:55:58pm

re: #48 WhatEVs

I just learned that misapprehend is actually a word: merriam-webster.com.

57 Franklin  Sep 8, 2014 5:56:16pm
58 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 5:56:55pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Horrible, but it was inevitable. The haters and race-baiters are going to use Ray Rice’s barbaric assault on his wife as an excuse to smear black men in general and Michael Brown in specific.

59 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:57:12pm
60 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 5:58:15pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

HE’S SUCKING OUT HER BRAINS!!11!!!

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The baby whisperer.

61 De Kolta Chair  Sep 8, 2014 5:58:24pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

62 Kragar  Sep 8, 2014 5:59:07pm
63 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 5:59:10pm

Joking about beating up women. Very classy wingnuts.

64 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 5:59:23pm
65 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 5:59:36pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

By the way, I’ll now be using donotlink . com for links to these right wing hate sites.

It’s very easy to use donotlink for any site… all you have to do is insert their domain name before the actual URL.

For example, this link to the DMOTI looks like this:

[Embedded image]

The beauty of de-monetizing their hate sites.

66 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:00:06pm

I’m behind. Pulling a SFZ. Endure.

67 lawhawk  Sep 8, 2014 6:00:09pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

MURDEROUS GAY MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARE BRINGING IN ISIS TERRORISTS WITH EBOLA!!!

[hair bursts into fire]

Wait, isn’t that Jimmy O’Keefe’s beat? And it’s the Canadian border by speedboat across the Great Lakes, not crossing the Rio Grande? ///

We’re having a derpularity.

68 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:00:26pm

re: #56 Belafon

I just learned that misapprehend is actually a word: merriam-webster.com.

I knew it was a word, but I don’t think it quite fits. And it sounded ridiculously pompous.

69 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 6:01:29pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Methinks there’s a Compton Cookout in his vida.

ucsdwiki.com

70 Lidane  Sep 8, 2014 6:01:37pm

OT, but I missed watching a good Keith Olbermann rant. He’s spot on here:

Youtube Video

71 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:01:52pm

JUST WAIT UNTIL CHUCK C GETS A HOLD OF JANAY PALMER’S TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM DATA, HE’LL GET RAY’S JOB BACK FOR HIM

72 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:02:19pm

re: #68 WhatEVs

It may not fit. It’s not a computer term, which means I haven’t seen it very much. I did like the fact that it’s first usage was in the 1600s.

73 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:02:48pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

The advantage of using donotlink is that it stops the link from improving their search engine rankings. That’s why Chuck Johnson is so angry at Salon for using it — he wants people to spread his links to improve his SEO rankings.

And by the way, that’s why you should always post links to LGF everywhere you can! (Blatant self-plug alert.)

His whole purpose is to build his wingnut welfare business.

It shocked him that it wasn’t so easy.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:02:52pm

re: #62 Kragar

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I must say I really like that another NFL player (or former player) used the hashtag #Coward for his tweets about Ray Rice. It fits Rice’s actions well, and those of Charles C. Johnson, too.

75 b_sharp  Sep 8, 2014 6:03:37pm

re: #72 Belafon

It may not fit. It’s not a computer term, which means I haven’t seen it very much. I did like the fact that it’s first usage was in the 1600s.

You two have not used misapprehension before? I’ve used it for decades.

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 6:04:09pm

Upchuck apparently didn’t get much mileage out of this one yesterday:

My question would have been, why would anyone even bother?

77 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:05:45pm

re: #75 b_sharp

Not me. I do a lot of reading, but after high school I went off into physics for a while, then the Navy, then software development. Misapprehension just never showed up anywhere. I will say, having looked it up, that it would have been helpful if I had known it sooner. I can think of a number of times it would have been appropriate.

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 6:06:14pm

Now he’s trolling the #WhyIStayed hashtag…

79 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:06:23pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Went to his horrible losing it online feed

Laid bare

80 KingKenrod  Sep 8, 2014 6:07:38pm

This Dim Jim story is almost identical to one he posted 3 days ago, with the same links and lede. He’s just added a few quotes. He’s really trying to promote Oathkeepers.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/tx-border-rancher-cartels-are-taking-over-open-us-border-politicians-are-lying-video

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 6:07:38pm

Vegas right now.
Upchuck just left there…

82 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:08:52pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now he’s trolling the #WhyIStayed hashtag…

I see he is going for that whole most hated guy on the internets niche.

Unusual career move when done intentionally.

83 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:09:02pm

re: #72 Belafon

It may not fit. It’s not a computer term, which means I haven’t seen it very much. I did like the fact that it’s first usage was in the 1600s.

Pretty much the era of choice by some folks.

84 aagcobb  Sep 8, 2014 6:09:13pm

re: #31 dog philosopher

i hear the cities and suburbs will be turned into giant concentration camps where workers will be forced to either spend all day in cubes staring at computer screens, be forced to smile all day serving customers, or drive around large cumbersome vehicles, in return for tokens which must be spent on rent, food, or useless consumer electronics

sounds like a living hell

I would tell you to go to Hell, except I work there and I don’t want to see you every day./

85 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 6:09:34pm
86 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:10:17pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

His whole purpose is to build his wingnut welfare business.

It shocked him that it wasn’t so easy.

That’s why I’m really ambivalent about Salon calling out ChuckC. It gives him wingnut stature.

He’s going to get a wingnut welfare job from all this.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:10:18pm

re: #70 Lidane

OT, but I missed watching a good Keith Olbermann rant. He’s spot on here:

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Video

That was superlatively good. Whatever else is true about Keith Olbermann, he is spot on regarding this matter.

88 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:12:26pm
89 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:12:43pm

I ordered a small pizza but I can’t eat any more of it, because CCJ just plain makes me sick.

90 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 6:13:02pm

re: #85 Gus

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Going to have a hard time mustering my liberal sympathy at his inevitable erotic auto-asphyxiation. Better start now.

91 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 8, 2014 6:13:06pm

re: #75 b_sharp

You two have not used misapprehension before? I’ve used it for decades.

I’m an expert in misapprehension.

Wait, what?

92 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:14:30pm

re: #88 b.d.

The internet: A case study in what happens when there is no cost for what you say or what you do.

93 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 6:16:03pm
94 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:16:28pm

re: #92 Belafon

The internet: A case study in what happens when there is no cost for what you say or what you do.

Chuck is nothing but a troll, not sure what he started out as but that sure as hell what he is now.

95 Franklin  Sep 8, 2014 6:16:30pm
96 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 6:17:24pm

why is it that criminals can be apprehended, but not misapprehended?

i saw an item in the new york post once that said that an ‘allusive’ criminal had been apprehended

i imagined him spouting literary allusions as he was led off in handcuffs…

97 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:17:45pm

re: #88 b.d.

To: Charles C. Johnson
From: Kurt E. Akemann (me)

How can you say the horrible things you have said today? You treat domestic violence like its some sort of game and use Ray Rice’s brutal assault on his fiancee as an excuse to attack feminists and the murdered Michael Brown.

May you lose your job and your home, be cast out by your friends, and then wander the streets as a bum until at last you realize what a horrible person you have been.

Fuck You Very Much,

Dark_Falcon

98 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 6:18:44pm

re: #96 dog philosopher

why is it that criminals can be apprehended, but not misapprehended?

i saw an item in the new york post once that said that an ‘allusive’ criminal had been apprehended

i imagined him spouting literary allusions as he was led off in handcuffs…

“Ya’ll never take me alive, Copper…oh shit…”

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2014 6:19:12pm

re: #95 Franklin

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100 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 6:19:12pm

Is there a term for gay uncle Toms? Even the Log Cabin Republican’s understand how the Equal Protections Clause works, that their rights shouldn’t depend on a popular vote.

101 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:20:08pm

re: #70 Lidane

OT, but I missed watching a good Keith Olbermann rant. He’s spot on here:

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Video

Oh hell yeah Keith.

102 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:20:18pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

To: Charles C. Johnson
From: Kurt E. Akemann (me)

How can you say the horrible things you have said today? You treat domestic violence like its some sort of game and use Ray Rice’s brutal assault on his fiancee as an excuse to attack feminists and the murdered Michael Brown.

May you lose your job and your home, be cast out by your friends, and then wander the streets as a bum until at last you realize what a horrible person you have been.

Fuck You Very Much,

Dark_Falcon

Well said. There are a lot of things that guy has said and done that upsets me but this honestly makes me aghast.

103 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:22:22pm

re: #102 b.d.

Well said. There are a lot of things that guy has said and done that upsets me but this honestly makes me aghast.

Me too. Normally, I work hard not to be hostile, but in this case I can’t help it. The sheer callousness and bad faith shown by CCJ is infuriating to me.

104 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:22:36pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

105 dholmes32  Sep 8, 2014 6:22:39pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Vegas right now.
Upchuck just left there…

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Oh boy, this gave me a flashback to the summer of 1989, when several friends and I were leaving the University of Houston campus, came to an underpass at I-45 and it was filled with water. Yeah, there was a tropical storm, but we were studying for the bar and of course bar review classes hadn’t been called off. We backed verrrry carefully to the previous intersection and ended up driving across town on Richmond Ave.

106 b.d.  Sep 8, 2014 6:23:44pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Me too. Normally, I work hard not to be hostile, but in this case I can’t help it. The sheer callousness and bad faith shown by CCJ is infuriating to me.

If CCJ has an ounce of humanity in him at all he’ll be claiming soon that his Twitter account was hacked by his enemies.

107 stpaulbear  Sep 8, 2014 6:23:53pm

re: #86 WhatEVs

That’s why I’m really ambivalent about Salon calling out ChuckC. It gives him wingnut stature.

He’s going to get a wingnut welfare job from all this.

Except that he’s proving that he doesn’t know what to do with the opportunity. The only thing he’s doing with his 15 minutes of fame is doubling down on being an asshole. He’s blowing it badly.

108 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:25:04pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

He’s a robot, and after having looked at the Constitution closely, has come to realize the logical conclusion of the full document: libertarianism.

Seriously, though. I admit I completely forgot about bills of attainder, but he reads it in an all or nothing fashion, forgetting about the exceptions we have to almost every amendment. His world is black or white.

109 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:25:24pm

re: #107 stpaulbear

Except that he’s proving that he doesn’t know what to do with the opportunity. The only thing he’s doing with his 15 minutes of fame is doubling down on being an asshole. He’s blowing it badly.

I’m starting to agree. Trolling abuse victims and threatening journalists is definitely a waste. Of oxygen. By ChuckC.

110 Teukka  Sep 8, 2014 6:26:01pm
111 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:26:40pm

re: #110 Teukka

Mosquitoes.

112 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 6:27:19pm

ads i see:

MetalHead Dating

hmmm…

113 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 6:27:33pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

By the way, I’ll now be using donotlink . com for links to these right wing hate sites.

It’s very easy to use donotlink for any site… all you have to do is insert their domain name before the actual URL.

For example, this link to the DMOTI looks like this:

[Embedded image]

YOUR TAKING FOOD OUT OF THESE PEEPLZ MOTHS!!!11!

114 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:27:50pm

re: #110 Teukka

That made me laugh.

115 Teukka  Sep 8, 2014 6:28:10pm

re: #111 Belafon

Mosquitoes.

That would be insulting to the entire kingdom of insects.

116 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:28:15pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

I don’t see that anywhere in the Constitution.

117 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 6:29:13pm

OATHKEEPERS VS. ISIS!

118 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 6:29:46pm

in re: donotlink . com

How is it better than a Google cache link?

119 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 6:31:55pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

in re: donotlink . com

How is it better than a Google cache link?

Not all pages are available in the Google cache, and the cache isn’t permanent.

And donotlink takes some serious extra measures to make sure their links don’t increase search engine ranking.

120 dholmes32  Sep 8, 2014 6:32:46pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

in re: donotlink . com

How is it better than a Google cache link?

Google cache links expire. The donotlink . com link stays alive as long as the original page is up. Which, considering some of the nutjobs out there, could be a fairly short period.

The whole point of donotlink . com is to deny people like Chuckie any hits from his perfidy.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 6:33:52pm

Here is your moment of AWWWWW
Baby Babushka
Get that girl a kitteh

122 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 6:34:09pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

re: #120 dholmes32

Ah! Okay! I will be all over donotlink . com if I ever need to source a questionable website. Thanks.

123 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 6:34:17pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

OATHKEEPERS VS. ISIS!

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They have to expand - the black man will be out of office in 2016 and they’ll need a different reason to grift than that one. < spit >

As someone who deeply meant his own oath of enlistment, these f***ing oathbreakers seriously piss me off.

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 6:35:24pm

Bryan loves Teh Bears & Teh Ghey

125 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:36:08pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

So how about the president makes the following offer instead: He offers slots in at least 1 volunteer brigade to those who can meet Army standards, with the understanding that said brigade is to be deployed to Iraq to fight these ISIS bastards.

See if any of the militia types would put their body where their mouth is.

126 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 6:36:19pm

re: #124 Pie-onist Overlord

Obviously, Jesus isn’t one of the people they love.

127 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:37:37pm

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is your moment of AWWWWW
Baby Babushka
Get that girl a kitteh
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Totally adorable!!

I take it you’re powered up again?

128 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 8, 2014 6:37:58pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upchuck apparently didn’t get much mileage out of this one yesterday:

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My question would have been, why would anyone even bother?

He’s busy tracking down that evil lib hacker from 127.0.0.1 for a DOS attack. They keep accessing his intarwebs.

129 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 6:38:22pm

re: #127 WhatEVs

Totally adorable!!

I take it you’re powered up again?

YAYYY Teh electrics was back on when I got home from work!

130 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 6:43:26pm

Like when JFK said “Ich bin ein Berliner” THAT WAS THE PASTRY HITLER HAD FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!!!!

131 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 6:43:29pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

So how about the president makes the following offer instead: He offers slots in at least 1 volunteer brigade to those who can meet Army standards, with the understanding that said brigade is to be deployed to Iraq to fight these ISIS bastards.

See if any of the militia types would put their body where their mouth is.

Parachute them deep in ISIS territory please. They might even do some good before they died crying with soiled pants.

132 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:43:36pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Me too. Normally, I work hard not to be hostile, but in this case I can’t help it. The sheer callousness and bad faith shown by CCJ is infuriating to me.

And D_F, realize his hate is a business. He’s throwing down to get funding. A base. Hate income.

133 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 6:44:29pm

re: #126 Belafon

Obviously, Jesus isn’t one of the people they love.

Jesus was brown, tried to change the 1% and gave away free health care. Of course they hate him.

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 6:45:55pm
135 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 6:46:39pm

Just finished a lovely dinner and visiting with wrenchwench about 20 minutes ago. She is flying out of Raleigh about 6 in the morning. We had Greek seasoned lamb chops and potatos with (ahem…my fault) somewhat overcooked broccolli (since I put it on to boil a little too early). My spouse, WW and I had coffee afterwards and chattered about any and everything, including how fun it is to give Dark Falcon a hard time every now and then (we love ya, DF)

She brought me a ceramic lizard from New Mexico :D

Really fun evening, and I hope we can do it again when she is in town.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:47:23pm

re: #131 William Barnett-Lewis

Parachute them deep in ISIS territory please. They might even do some good before they died crying with soiled pants.

Actually, I was being somewhat serious. Volunteers especially for the campaign might be able to be deployed without angering the public. Heck Will, you’d likely get enough volunteers from people already in the Army that you’d be able to fill one brigade just from them.

You’d need a separate Battalion Combat Team for the Marine volunteers, of course.

137 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 6:47:25pm
138 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:47:26pm

re: #106 b.d.

If CCJ has an ounce of humanity in him at all he’ll be claiming soon that his Twitter account was hacked by his enemies.

Ah no. He conjured the knock out game, and feminist bitching.

He’s the 2014 atheist’s satan.

139 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 6:47:27pm

Yes @ProfJeffJarvis, troll so hard!

140 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:48:21pm

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

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Why mention Justin Bieber? He’s a goof-up young man, but compared to CCJ he’s a saint.

141 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 6:48:33pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I was being somewhat serious. Volunteers especially for the campaign might be able to be deployed without angering the public. Heck Will, you’d likely get enough volunteers from people already in the Army that you’d be able to fill one brigade just from them.

You’d need a separate Battalion Combat Team for the Marine volunteers, of course.

They could call it something catchy and historical, like the Jefferson Davis Brigade.

142 Amory Blaine  Sep 8, 2014 6:48:48pm

re: #135 Aunty Entity Dragon

Sounds like a fun time!! And delicious.

143 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 6:49:40pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Why mention Justin Bieber? He’s a goof-up kid, but compared to CCJ he’s a saint.

I don’t know, man. The Biebs ain’t exactly an upstanding human being. But you are right, he’s better than UpChuck. Upding.

144 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 6:49:52pm

re: #142 Amory Blaine

Sounds like a fun time!! And delicious.

I did okay…except the bloody broccoli…lol.

145 Amory Blaine  Sep 8, 2014 6:50:51pm

Better the broccoli than the lamb chops.

146 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 6:50:56pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I was being somewhat serious. Volunteers especially for the campaign might be able to be deployed without angering the public. Heck Will, you’d likely get enough volunteers from people already in the Army that you’d be able to fill one brigade just from them.

You’d need a separate Battalion Combat Team for the Marine volunteers, of course.

Those from the active military could, in theory, do an AVG kind of thing, but given the politics it would be too close to the Spanish Blue Division on the Eastern Front for my tastes. No trust for me - I’d not mind seeing ISIS darwin that threat to our nation.

147 klys  Sep 8, 2014 6:50:57pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Why mention Justin Bieber? He’s a goof-up kid, but compared to CCJ he’s a saint.

Excuse me, but if Michael Brown wasn’t a kid, Justin Bieber is not a kid either.

148 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 8, 2014 6:50:59pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upchuck apparently didn’t get much mileage out of this one yesterday:
Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson
Follow
Looks like someone tried to hack gotnews.com today…[Embedded content]

My question would have been, why would anyone even bother?

So, let me get this correct there CCJ? Asking people to hack a dead kids instagram and other social media accts is perfectly OK, since you did it. But somebody hacking you is bad? Just wanted to make sure that I was clear on just how lacking any moral guidance you are.

RBS

149 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:51:46pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Not all pages are available in the Google cache, and the cache isn’t permanent.

And donotlink takes some serious extra measures to make sure their links don’t increase search engine ranking.

And the idjits see donotlink and get really pissy.

win.

150 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 6:52:01pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

They could call it something catchy and historical, like the Jefferson Davis Brigade.

Youtube Video

151 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 6:52:17pm

Good night all. See you after class tomorrow most likely.

152 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:52:54pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

They could call it something catchy and historical, like the Jefferson Davis Brigade.

If you have a separate brigade for the militia loons, maybe. I’d call the ‘normal’ volunteer brigade the Ulysses S. Grant Brigade. With the reminder to ISIS that Grant was also known as “Unconditional Surrender Grant”, for no terms of peace that do not involve the dissolution of the ‘Islamic State’ will be worth considering.

153 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 6:53:17pm

CCJ is a despicable person, but I can’t decide if he is serious or just knows that that hate-filled shit will land him a job.

Other than that, the Ray Rice tweets should make even the most hateful cretins on the right say WTF?

154 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 6:53:27pm

re: #151 Aunty Entity Dragon

Good night all. See you after class tomorrow most likely.

G’night! Glad you had a nice dinner.

155 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:53:34pm

re: #147 klys

Excuse me, but if Michael Brown wasn’t a kid, Justin Bieber is not a kid either.

True. I’ll edit my post.

156 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:54:07pm

re: #135 Aunty Entity Dragon

AH LOVE IT.

157 jonhendry  Sep 8, 2014 6:54:30pm

re: #4 b.d.

Those have to be the dumbest terrorists ever. I wonder what their IQ is or how many books a week they read?

Do “Mack Bolan: The Executioner” pulp adventure ‘novels’ count?
extruded book product

I read so many of these. In 7th grade.

158 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 6:54:59pm

re: #146 William Barnett-Lewis

Those from the active military could, in theory, do an AVG kind of thing, but given the politics it would be too close to the Spanish Blue Division on the Eastern Front for my tastes. No trust for me - I’d not mind seeing ISIS darwin that threat to our nation.

Could you please explain that last sentence? I don’t understand your use of the name “Darwin”.

159 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 6:58:19pm

re: #144 Aunty Entity Dragon

I did okay…except the bloody broccoli…lol.

And the conversation? Are you and WW just as cool as we imagine? lol, i sent you guys a tweet, hoping to butt in.

160 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 7:00:30pm

I caught up to the end of the thread. Y’all slacked.

161 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 7:01:32pm

Unless two Charles C Johnsons wrote biographies of Calvin Coolidge, someone dumped a cool half million producing that journal-isht. Check the schools.

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

162 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:02:21pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Unless two Charles C Johnsons wrote biographies of Calvin Coolidge, someone dumped a cool half million producing that journal-isht. Check the schools.

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

No, that’s him. It fits the bio-info in his SUPER SPECIAL JOURNALISM AWARD.

163 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 7:02:58pm

re: #157 jonhendry

Do “Mack Bolan: The Executioner” pulp adventure ‘novels’ count?
extruded book product

I read so many of these. In 7th grade.

Gah, I haven’t seen those in years. I read a bunch of them when I was young but that was in the day when he was against the Mob and I could get into that when I had nothing better to read. The later ones were even worse.

164 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 7:04:06pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

Could you please explain that last sentence? I don’t understand your use of the name “Darwin”.

The idea of letting them kill off, in the sense of the Darwin Awards, people whom I consider to be a dangerous threat to the freedom of all Americans.

165 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 7:04:31pm

re: #162 klys

No, that’s him. It fits the bio-info in his SUPER SPECIAL JOURNALISM AWARD.

TS Eliot, Bobby & Ted Kennedy, Buckminster Fuller went to that HS. Fuckn’ waste.

166 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 7:04:59pm

re: #163 William Barnett-Lewis

Gah, I haven’t seen those in years. I read a bunch of them when I was young but that was in the day when he was against the Mob and I could get into that when I had nothing better to read. The later ones were even worse.

The male version of the Harlequin bodice ripper, only much less well written

167 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 7:07:06pm

re: #157 jonhendry

Do “Mack Bolan: The Executioner” pulp adventure ‘novels’ count?
extruded book product

I read so many of these. In 7th grade.

what’s saddam hussein doing on the cover???

168 Romantic Heretic  Sep 8, 2014 7:07:09pm

re: #106 b.d.

If CCJ has an ounce of humanity in him at all he’ll be claiming soon that his Twitter account was hacked by his enemies.

That narrows the suspect pool down to about 7 billion people.

Minus the, perhaps, dozen people who share the same level and type of assholery with him.

169 BongCrodny  Sep 8, 2014 7:08:10pm

re: #167 dog philosopher

what’s saddam hussein doing on the cover???

That’s not Saddam, that’s Phil Robertson.

170 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 7:09:40pm

re: #166 Pie-onist Overlord

The male version of the Harlequin bodice ripper, only much less well written

I read more than a few of my mother’s Harlequins. Most are actually very carefully and well written genre novels. I’m not their main market by any stretch but I respect them as much as I do the old pulp SF and detective stories. Takes real skill to do those books.

171 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 7:10:31pm

So Megyn Kelly is interviewing Ward Churchill and now he’s trending. Yeesh.

172 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 8, 2014 7:10:55pm

re: #157 jonhendry

Do “Mack Bolan: The Executioner” pulp adventure ‘novels’ count?
extruded book product

I read so many of these. In 7th grade.

I remember those…. Kill, Kill, Kill, Sexy time, kill, kill, sexy time, kill kill kill….

Formula writing at it’s finest.

RBS

173 dog philosopher  Sep 8, 2014 7:10:58pm

re: #169 BongCrodny

That’s not Saddam, that’s Phil Robertson.

no i mean the guy holding the gun to the head of the woman

174 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 7:11:13pm

re: #170 William Barnett-Lewis

I read more than a few of my mother’s Harlequins. Most are actually very carefully and well written genre novels. I’m not their main market by any stretch but I respect them as much as I do the old pulp SF and detective stories. Takes real skill to do those books.

Some Harlequin writers have gone on to become best-selling novelists, like Nora Roberts.

175 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 7:11:36pm

re: #171 Gus

So Megyn Kelly is interviewing Ward Churchill and now he’s trending. Yeesh.

Let me guess, her first question is Why are you such a horrible human being?

I have to admit, that’d be my first question, too.

176 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:11:45pm

re: #164 William Barnett-Lewis

The idea of letting them kill off, in the sense of the Darwin Awards, people whom I consider to be a dangerous threat to the freedom of all Americans.

OK, thanks. Here’s a story you might like:

The American Food Falling From the Sky Over Iraq Is a Special Menu
Emergency meals follow strict religious guidelines

Of course, the majority of the individuals near Sinjar were members of the Yezidi faith, not Muslims. But the Pentagon didn’t take any chances. The military no doubt wanted to make sure nobody trapped on the mountain top went hungry.

Shari⮺h law has very detailed rules about preparing meats and bans Muslims from eating pork altogether. Strict adherents of these restrictions must eat food that is halal—permitted by the Quran—unless there are absolutely no alternatives.

With these requirements in mind, the Defense Department’s Combat Feeding Directorate developed meals for both observant religious personnel and humanitarian aid. The resulting “Meal, Religious, Halal” consists of an entree and an accessory pack.

Halal-certified main courses include lamb and chicken dishes, as well as vegetarian options like cheese tortellini and pasta with vegetables, according to a U.S. Army fact sheet.

The accessory pack contains things like powdered drink mixes, condiments, utensils and napkins. More generic food items like granola bars, dried fruit and nuts and cereal are also included.

177 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 7:12:08pm

WARD CHURCHILL REPRESENTS THE TYPICAL LIBRUL LEFTIST DEMOCRAT VIEW OF 9/11 AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS!!11TY

178 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 7:12:32pm

re: #170 William Barnett-Lewis

I read more than a few of my mother’s Harlequins. Most are actually very carefully and well written genre novels. I’m not their main market by any stretch but I respect them as much as I do the old pulp SF and detective stories. Takes real skill to do those books.

Many fledgling novelists write Harlequins under pen names to help pay the rent.

179 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 8, 2014 7:13:41pm

Tess Gerritson and Iris Johansen also got their start writing for Harlequin.

180 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:14:10pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi

Many fledgling novelists write Harlequins under pen names to help pay the rent.

Honestly, if I were looking for pulling of a livelihood as an author, I’d seriously consider romance novels.

181 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 7:14:26pm

re: #177 Gus

WARD CHURCHILL REPRESENTS THE TYPICAL LIBRUL LEFTIST DEMOCRAT VIEW OF 9/11 AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS!!11TY

Sadly, this is how FoxNews is framing it. Now its viewers will think of half the population as someone like Ward Churchill.

FoxNews sucks balls, but they are really good at framing a debate for aging white people.

182 BongCrodny  Sep 8, 2014 7:14:44pm

re: #173 dog philosopher

no i mean the guy holding the gun to the head of the woman

Oops.

Mack doesn’t seem to have a very good aim on that cover, does he?

I remember reading the first couple of dozen of the original “War Against The Mafia” series from way back in the early 70’s — eventually I got the feeling I was reading the same damn book over and over again.

183 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:15:04pm

re: #169 BongCrodny

That’s not Saddam, that’s Phil Robertson.

Actually, it’s supposed to be the Ayatollah Khomeini. But you already knew that.

184 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Sep 8, 2014 7:15:34pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon@ChuckCJohnson As close as he was to her, it’s unlikely she could have leveled the gun and fired. But thanks for playing, choad. #

Nice to point out that she could not have likely stopped (killed) him if she had a gun from a technical standpoint. But how about pointing out that a gun introduced here would have likely resulting in one death, maybe two (murder-suicide.)

Domestic violence is horrible, but with guns around it’s more-often deadly. The data are undeniable.

185 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 7:16:51pm
186 Dr. Matt  Sep 8, 2014 7:17:10pm

187 Romantic Heretic  Sep 8, 2014 7:18:21pm

re: #123 William Barnett-Lewis

They have to expand - the black man will be out of office in 2016 and they’ll need a different reason to grift than that one. < spit >

As someone who deeply meant his own oath of enlistment, these f***ing oathbreakers seriously piss me off.

I call the Oathkeepers ‘double patriots’.

This is what some members of the Japanese military in the years between the wars called themselves. They claimed they were “serving the true interests of The Emperor.” They were responsible for a lot of terrorist activity and even an attempted coup.

I’m hoping the Oathkeepers have much less success than those assholes.

188 Jenner7  Sep 8, 2014 7:19:30pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

Brilliant!

189 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:19:42pm

re: #184 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

@ChuckCJohnson As close as he was to her, it’s unlikely she could have leveled the gun and fired. But thanks for playing, choad. #

Nice to point out that she could not have likely stopped (killed) him if she had a gun from a technical standpoint. But how about pointing out that a gun introduced here would have likely resulting in one death, maybe two (murder-suicide.)

Domestic violence is horrible, but with guns around it’s more-often deadly. The data are undeniable.

Ray Rice wouldn’t have killed himself, not right then. His ego is too big for that. I doubt he would have shot his fiancee, either, if only because the sound of the gunshot would have been heard and he’d never escape a murder conviction for having shot her.

190 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 7:19:43pm

re: #185 Gus

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Gus, I’d call you more of a moderate. Then again, the right in this country has gone pretty fucking far right, so I guess you’re a liberal on the continuum. Hell, so am I, for that matter.

191 Romantic Heretic  Sep 8, 2014 7:20:24pm

re: #124 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan loves Teh Bears & Teh Ghey

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Um, so you’re saying conservatives love gays, minorities and the poor, Bryan?

If so it’s the same way abusers love their wives and children.

192 BongCrodny  Sep 8, 2014 7:24:25pm

re: #184 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

@ChuckCJohnson As close as he was to her, it’s unlikely she could have leveled the gun and fired. But thanks for playing, choad. #

Nice to point out that she could not have likely stopped (killed) him if she had a gun from a technical standpoint. But how about pointing out that a gun introduced here would have likely resulting in one death, maybe two (murder-suicide.)

Domestic violence is horrible, but with guns around it’s more-often deadly. The data are undeniable.

Not a physics major, so I may have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about here, but wouldn’t it be kind of dumb move to fire a gun in an elevator?

193 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 7:25:10pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

Gus, I’d call you more of a moderate. Then again, the right in this country has gone pretty fucking far right, so I guess you’re a liberal on the continuum. Hell, so am I, for that matter.

Most liberals are moderates. I have liberal ideas about lots of things I don’t discuss much on the internet. Heck, most leftists I know think Churchill is an ass.

194 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:26:13pm

re: #192 BongCrodny

Not a physics major, so I may have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about here, but wouldn’t it be kind of dumb move to fire a gun in an elevator?

Assuming you’re thinking about the movement of the elevator up possibly affecting the gunshot, the short answer: no.

Longer answer: the gun is moving up at the same rate as everything else - it’s in the same frame of reference - and so the bullet coming out of the gun will also have that upward movement.

195 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:27:02pm

I’ve always thought of myself as center, maybe slightly left-of-center. But these RWNJ make me look like a far lefty. And I’m quite proud of that.

196 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 7:27:17pm

Video shows Rice hitting or slapping his wife hard first, then knocking her unconscious as she walked towards him. He hit her so hard her head hit the elevator wall, then the handrail, then the floor. I don’t see how she didn’t suffer a serious concussion from that.

The behavior of every single male involved in this case is unbelievably disturbing.

197 Jenner7  Sep 8, 2014 7:27:58pm

Having Ward Churchill on Fox News is like booking Rev. Wright. Old news, old ways to attack the left.

198 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:28:30pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

Yes. And the NFL is full of shit or incompetent by saying that they never saw the inside-the-elevator video. I don’t believe them at all.

199 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 7:28:45pm

re: #194 klys

Assuming you’re thinking about the movement of the elevator up possibly affecting the gunshot, the short answer: no.

Longer answer: the gun is moving up at the same rate as everything else - it’s in the same frame of reference - and so the bullet coming out of the gun will also have that upward movement.

The danger is ricochet, supersonic projectile in a small metal walled box.

200 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:29:25pm

re: #197 Jenner7

Having Ward Churchill on Fox News is like booking Rev. Wright. Old news, old ways to attack the left.

Because they both represent the entire left, of course.
//

201 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 8, 2014 7:29:39pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Ray Rice wouldn’t have killed himself, not right then. His ego is too big for that. I doubt he would have shot his fiancee, either, if only because the sound of the gunshot would have been heard and he’d never escape a murder conviction for having shot her.

I think the question is, what would she have done after shooting him?

202 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:30:36pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

The danger is ricochet, supersonic projectile in a small metal walled box.

That’s a fair point. I went too simple.

203 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 7:31:50pm

re: #193 Gus

Most liberals are moderates. I have liberal ideas about lots of things I don’t discuss much on the internet. Heck, most leftists I know think Churchill is an ass.

I think it was in the Jon Stewart vs. Bill O’Reilly debate where Jon said “I have liberal views, I have conservative views, I have weird Rastafarian views” and when I heard that, my Truth Meter exploded. There’s no left or right with real people. It’s nuanced, there’s shades of grey. And the big media in this country purposefully obfuscates that.

204 BongCrodny  Sep 8, 2014 7:32:05pm

re: #194 klys

Assuming you’re thinking about the movement of the elevator up possibly affecting the gunshot, the short answer: no.

Longer answer: the gun is moving up at the same rate as everything else - it’s in the same frame of reference - and so the bullet coming out of the gun will also have that upward movement.

Well, my thinking was that in such a small confined space, the metal walls of the elevator would be more likely that the bullet would ricochet instead of being embedded.

But I have to confess to not knowing much about physics or guns.

205 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:32:36pm

re: #204 BongCrodny

Well, my thinking was that in such a small confined space, the metal walls of the elevator would be more likely that the bullet would ricochet instead of being embedded.

But I have to confess to not knowing much about physics or guns.

Yeah, see Frank’s comment. I’m too embedded in physics thought experiments and that’s what came to mind first.

206 allegro  Sep 8, 2014 7:33:02pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

The danger is ricochet, supersonic projectile in a small metal walled box.

Damn hard on the eardrums too.

207 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:33:35pm

re: #201 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I think the question is, what would she have done after shooting him?

He used the phrase “murder/suicide” which would not apply if she had shot him. Had Janay Palmer shot Ray Rice as he attacked her, it would have been self-defense, and not a crime at all.

208 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:33:46pm

re: #206 allegro

Damn hard on the eardrums too.

What was that???

209 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 7:34:50pm

re: #204 BongCrodny

Well, my thinking was that in such a small confined space, the metal walls of the elevator would be more likely that the bullet would ricochet instead of being embedded.

But I have to confess to not knowing much about physics or guns.

The whole thing was, and would be SO MUCH MORE a shitshow with guns.

210 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 7:35:42pm

holy shit, do not imagine guns in their hands.

Just don’t.

211 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:35:53pm

For you, Frank.

212 klys  Sep 8, 2014 7:36:33pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

He used the phrase “murder/suicide” which would not apply if she had shot him. Had Janay Palmer shot Ray Rice as he attacked her, it would have been self-defense, and not a crime at all.

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Ray Rice wouldn’t have killed himself, not right then. His ego is too big for that. I doubt he would have shot his fiancee, either, if only because the sound of the gunshot would have been heard and he’d never escape a murder conviction for having shot her.

I’m sure that he would have been fine with her pulling a gun to defend herself. That wouldn’t have enraged him at all. He absolutely would have made the rational decision not to lash out at her further than he already was.

The very nasty truth is that gun and domestic violence are a bad, bad, mix and pretending you know exactly how he would have reacted doesn’t negate that.

213 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 7:39:55pm

Ah, foo. My best friend just called. His MiL died earlier today from an insanely aggressive form of cancer. Went in on Labor Day & never left the hospital. Since they are a good catholic family (other than my friend who remains an unrepentant Northern Baptist :) ) I read the Book of Common Prayer’s prayers at the time of death & also from the committal. Not much, really, but it’s as close to the Mourner’s Kaddish as we get…

“In the midst of life, we are in death;
of whom may we seek for succor,
but of thee, O Lord…”

214 Kid A  Sep 8, 2014 7:40:09pm
215 jamesfirecat  Sep 8, 2014 7:40:44pm

re: #192 BongCrodny

Not a physics major, so I may have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about here, but wouldn’t it be kind of dumb move to fire a gun in an elevator?

My long history of playing Phoenix Wright games says it’s perfectly doable.

216 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:42:39pm

re: #212 klys

I’m sure that he would have been fine with her pulling a gun to defend herself. That wouldn’t have enraged him at all. He absolutely would have made the rational decision not to lash out at her further than he already was.

The very nasty truth is that gun and domestic violence are a bad, bad, mix and pretending you know exactly how he would have reacted doesn’t negate that.

Please don’t get me wrong: I think he would have hurt her even worse had she tried to draw a gun. He might well have even hit her with said gun. I just don’t think he’d shoot her with it. He might have though and what I said is just my own read of the matter. I might be wrong. And I’m glad we didn’t have to find out.

Moreover, why should she have been carrying a gun when she was in a hotel with her fiancee, I’d ask. Just as you would, I’d say Janay Palmer shouldn’t have to protect herself from the man she has married, the onus is on him to not hit her.

217 Egregious Philbin  Sep 8, 2014 7:43:20pm

Fitting that the oaf would source the Oaf Keepers.

218 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 7:44:06pm
219 Belafon  Sep 8, 2014 7:44:40pm

re: #192 BongCrodny

Not a physics major, so I may have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about here, but wouldn’t it be kind of dumb move to fire a gun in an elevator?

Ignoring the fact that having a gun in this situation wouldn’t have really helped, i’m not sure I see where physics would apply.

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 7:45:14pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I’d say Janay Palmer shouldn’t have to protect herself from the man she has married, the onus is on him to not hit her.

^^^ this. So this.

221 stpaulbear  Sep 8, 2014 7:47:55pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I think he would have hurt her even worse had she tried to draw a gun. He might well have even hit her with said gun. I just don’t think he’d shoot her with it.

If she would have pulled a gun in the elevator, the gun would have gone off either on purpose or in a struggle before the elevator door opened. There’s no way that there wouldn’t have been a struggle. The chances of one of them being injured or dead from a gunshot before the door opened would have been very high.

222 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Sep 8, 2014 7:48:44pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Ray Rice wouldn’t have killed himself, not right then. His ego is too big for that. I doubt he would have shot his fiancee, either, if only because the sound of the gunshot would have been heard and he’d never escape a murder conviction for having shot her.

You sound like you think Ray Rice was thinking rationally. He knocked out his partner with a punch to the face. An act that would ruin his career - and, while I never get into why people are together, should have ended their relationship. But his further acts would be rational? His life, as he knew it, ended that moment.

Murder-suicide is common in these (gun-present) situations.

223 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 7:49:03pm

Ben Carson on Ray Rice: ‘Let’s Not Demonize This Guy’

There’s video, but I won’t watch it for fear of raising my blood pressure too high.

And as for Dr. Carson:

Youtube Video

224 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 7:49:29pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

ChuckCJohnson is the Tea Party’s idiot bastard son, an amoral monster engendered and nurtured by the GOP’s Southern Strategy.

Engendered and nurtured, it seems, by the best schools in the country.

littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

225 lawhawk  Sep 8, 2014 7:50:55pm

re: #211 Kid A

Smile for the birdie!

226 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 7:54:09pm

The guy who depicted the President of the United States in the film “Idiocracy” tweeted this earlier.

227 Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2014 8:02:37pm
228 BongCrodny  Sep 8, 2014 8:04:24pm

re: #219 Belafon

Ignoring the fact that having a gun in this situation wouldn’t have really helped, i’m not sure I see where physics would apply.

See Frank’s post (after mine) on that.

What I was going for was if she shoots — and misses, since presumably Parker isn’t an expert — does the bullet harmlessly embed in the wall, or does it ricochet and possibly hit/kill her?

Was also going for the idea that a gun would only have made things worse.

229 BeachDem  Sep 8, 2014 8:04:45pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upchuck apparently didn’t get much mileage out of this one yesterday:

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My question would have been, why would anyone even bother?

I had the same response to his supposed multiple death threats—who would waste their time?

230 Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2014 8:06:23pm

re: #229 BeachDem

I had the same response to his supposed multiple death threats—who would waste their time?

I don’t doubt there were death threats. We have a lot of sickos who glom on to anyone who sticks out. Mr. Rogers probably had death threats.

231 jonhendry  Sep 8, 2014 8:07:17pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

The guy who depicted the President of the United States in the film “Idiocracy” tweeted this earlier.

[Embedded Terry Crews tweet content]

Terry Crews used to play in the NFL, too.

Funny guy. Also a talented painter.

232 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 8:10:20pm
233 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 8:11:04pm

Scratch a tenther and …

234 ninja cat  Sep 8, 2014 8:12:07pm

re: #228 BongCrodny

Was also going for the idea that a gun would only have made things worse.

All I see with her having a gun is him grabbing/forcing it from her and shooting her. A gun just escalates the situation.

235 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 8:12:08pm

Record rainfall in the American Southwest. Its crumbling infrastructure due to too much water, photoed here.

236 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 8:12:34pm

Missed this at the time but it’s pretty cool…

Youtube Video

237 BeachDem  Sep 8, 2014 8:14:09pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

That was superlatively good. Whatever else is true about Keith Olbermann, he is spot on regarding this matter.

I miss Keith on politics. They have him on a pretty short rope at ESPN, but if it’s a sports topic, the old Keith really does shine.

238 teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2014 8:14:42pm

Yeah, OK. You own all the badass Fender guitars and you can play them like a sumbitch. Don’t rub it in!

239 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 8:17:19pm

re: #237 BeachDem

I miss Keith on politics. They have him on a pretty short rope at ESPN, but if it’s a sports topic, the old Keith really does shine.

He has to be kept on a short leash or he rapidly goes nutty. Keith Olbermann has a over-large ego and a short temper, and a man with those traits needs some form of restraint to keep him from making an ass of himself.

240 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 8:20:04pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi

Many fledgling novelists write Harlequins under pen names to help pay the rent.

I found out that two authors I really like started writing Harlequins.

241 jonhendry  Sep 8, 2014 8:24:00pm

re: #233 goddamnedfrank

That guy’s hair is a crime that should get him disbarred.

242 Amory Blaine  Sep 8, 2014 8:28:21pm

Scott Walker is a fiscal genius. His IQ must crack the double digits.

Wisconsin state budget shortfall projected at nearly $1.8 billion

The expected shortfall for the next two-year state budget starting in July has risen to nearly $1.8 billion, or about half of what it was when Gov. Scott Walker took office in January 2011.

Meanwhile, the state’s projected gap in its current budget ending June has risen to $396 million — or about 1.2% of the spending planned for the 2013-‘15 budget.

The Republican governor resolved a more than $3 billion budget shortfall in the months after taking office, but the latest projections show the state is running through the resulting surplus. The state is again facing a gap in the 2015-‘17 budget because of tax cuts enacted by Walker and lawmakers and lagging growth in other state taxes in recent months.

243 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 8:28:44pm

re: #241 jonhendry

That guy’s hair is a crime that should get him disbarred.

*Snerk*

Yeah, pretty hideous. Somebody needs to check his refrigerator for body parts.

244 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 8:30:15pm

re: #144 Aunty Entity Dragon

I did okay…except the bloody broccoli…lol.

The broccoli was FINE! It had butter on it! And the lamb chops were delicious, and the potatoes were great, and the company was the best!

245 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 8:33:42pm

re: #242 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker is a fiscal genius. His IQ must crack the double digits.

Wisconsin state budget shortfall projected at nearly $1.8 billion

Little fucker is gutting this state for decades… I’d say more but it would be an auto ban…

246 Jay C  Sep 8, 2014 8:35:15pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Strict adherents of these restrictions must eat food that is halal—permitted by the Quran—unless there are absolutely no alternatives.

So while I can certainly applaud our Armed Forces for their cultural/dietary sensitivity, I would imagine that even the strictest imam might conclude that being chased out of one’s home by a violent genocidal militia, and forced - basically at gunpoint - up into a remote barren mountain valley with absolutely no sources of food, water, or shelter - might just qualify as “absolutely no alternatives”.

247 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 8:36:03pm

re: #245 William Barnett-Lewis

Little fucker is gutting this state for decades… I’d say more but it would be an auto ban…

And he might just be re elected.

248 Amory Blaine  Sep 8, 2014 8:36:47pm

I fully expect the GOP to go after teachers again.

249 BeachDem  Sep 8, 2014 8:36:50pm

re: #230 Decatur Deb

I don’t doubt there were death threats. We have a lot of sickos who glom on to anyone who sticks out. Mr. Rogers probably had death threats.

Yeah, but I think CCJ interprets things like “eat shit and die” as a death threat. I believe he said he had 17 or more within a 24 hour period, and I really don’t believe there are 17 people who give enough of a fuck to threaten him.

250 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 8:36:58pm

This guy is actually a lawyer, amazing.

Handed down on May 17, 1954, the Warren Court’s unanimous (9-0) decision stated that “separate educational facilities are inherently unequal.” As a result, de jure racial segregation was ruled a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution.

251 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 8:40:03pm

And I got to see and hear the harp, and see a basement full of toys that could make Kragar jealous. And the kid’s Star Trek themed bedroom that made me jealous.

252 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 8:41:24pm
253 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 8:44:03pm

re: #247 WhatEVs

And he might just be re elected.

Lot’s of people believe the big lie…

254 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 8:45:47pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Yeah, OK. You own all the badass Fender guitars and you can play them like a sumbitch. Don’t rub it in!

Ok, I can’t play it like a sumbitch, but I have to say that the Telecaster (Mexican 52 repro) is my favorite guitar, and I’ve played Ricks, Strats, Les Pauls, etc. The neck just feels great.

255 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 8:46:41pm

re: #253 William Barnett-Lewis

Lot’s of people believe the big lie…

I have seen and heard Walker speak several times, and I am amazed that anyone doesn’t think “what an idiot.”

256 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 8:48:54pm

AND I got a nose-kiss from the kitteh!

257 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 8:51:28pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

That downding was in poor taste, BD. Given the number of jobs Keith Olbermann has been fired from, saying he’s got an ego and a temper is not unreasonable nor insulting.

258 Dark_Falcon  Sep 8, 2014 8:51:41pm

Good Night, All.

259 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 8:53:36pm

re: #255 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I have seen and heard Walker speak several times, and I am amazed that anyone doesn’t think “what an idiot.”

Thing you have to remember is that compared to Tommy Thompson, Walker is exquisitely eloquent. I remember being forced (as a national guard soldier) to stand at attention through one of Tommy’s worst excuses for a speech. Walker is stupider than a box of rocks, and even than Tommy, but a better speaker. That’s not saying much but…

260 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 8:53:46pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

That downding was in poor taste, BD. Given the number of jobs Keith Olbermann has been fired from, saying he’s got an ego and a temper is not unreasonable nor insulting.

KO’s Edward R. Murrow impersonation needs work. I actually thought his Rice editorial was overblown hackery.

261 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 8:54:54pm

re: #259 William Barnett-Lewis

Thing you have to remember is that compared to Tommy Thompson, Walker is exquisitely eloquent. I remember being forced (as a national guard soldier) to stand at attention through one of Tommy’s worst excuses for a speech. Walker is stupider than a box of rocks, and even than Tommy, but a better speaker. That’s not saying much but…

I’m also in Illinois, so I don’t quite understand the Wisconsin political dynamic. But damn, Walker is an idiot.

262 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 8:56:05pm

Oh yes. Good coffee too.

263 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 8:56:23pm

Thank you, Annemarie!

264 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 8:56:29pm

I maintain that Olberman’s real downfall came as a result of the Thurber readings. I know the guy’s Dad had just died, but those uncomfortable readings went on for months, felt like he was dragging his audience along for a therapy session.

265 Kragar  Sep 8, 2014 8:56:44pm
266 BeachDem  Sep 8, 2014 8:58:02pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

That downding was in poor taste, BD. Given the number of jobs Keith Olbermann has been fired from, saying he’s got an ego and a temper is not unreasonable nor insulting.

Saying he has an ego and a temper and the fact that he has been fired from jobs is not the same as saying, “He has to be kept on a short leash or he rapidly goes nutty.”

Many people have been fired from jobs for standing up for what they believe in, and that does not make them “rapidly go nutty” or need to be kept on short leash.

267 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 8:58:30pm
268 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 9:00:02pm
269 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 9:00:53pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

AND I got a nose-kiss from the kitteh!

Photos or it didn’t happen!

270 BeachDem  Sep 8, 2014 9:00:55pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

I maintain that Olberman’s real downfall came as a result of the Thurber readings. I know the guy’s Dad had just died, but those uncomfortable readings went on for months, felt like he was dragging his audience along for a therapy session.

I would tend to agree with you. I was and am a big Keith fan and I found my eyes crossing and my fingers searching out the remote when the Thurber readings began.

I still don’t think that means “He has to be kept on a short leash or he rapidly goes nutty.”

271 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 9:01:03pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

AND I got a nose-kiss from the kitteh!

That makes the whole night! (Well, that and lamb. Lamb always tops my list.)

272 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 9:01:10pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

I maintain that Olberman’s real downfall came as a result of the Thurber readings. I know the guy’s Dad had just died, but those uncomfortable readings went on for months, felt like he was dragging his audience along for a therapy session.

I think he too often goes high dudgeon when low dudgeon would do. YMMV

273 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 8, 2014 9:02:07pm

re: #268 Charles Johnson

While at Claremont College in 2011, @ChuckCJohnson ranted about his “cheating, lying ex-girlfriend” in his blog: claremontconservative.com

This is going to be another Chunky Reese Witherspoon moment, isn’t it?

274 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 9:02:48pm

re: #237 BeachDem

I miss Keith on politics. They have him on a pretty short rope at ESPN, but if it’s a sports topic, the old Keith really does shine.

I don’t. The twit hurts everything he claims to love everytime he opens his mouth.

At best? The Left’s Nugent.

275 jonhendry  Sep 8, 2014 9:04:23pm

re: #266 BeachDem

Um, DF wasn’t making a generalization about people who have been fired, he was specifically talking about Olbermann.

If DF said anything objectionable, it would be the use of ‘nutty’. I don’t think it’s out of line to posit that Olbermann, without the firm guidance of an editor/producer, tends to get himself in trouble.

276 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:04:24pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

Photos or it didn’t happen!

Imma hafta go back and do it again!

If I am not mistaken, there were no electronic devices involved in this evening’s entertainment. Perhaps to the dismay of a certain Seagull who tried to DM us….

277 Amory Blaine  Sep 8, 2014 9:07:15pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

We’re all jelly over the ceramic lizard. I demand pics of the idol!!!!

278 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:10:09pm

re: #277 Amory Blaine

We’re all jelly over the ceramic lizard. I demand pics of the idol!!!!

Well, it’s out of my hands now….

279 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 8, 2014 9:10:16pm

Good night all, for real. My night off and it’s a bed, pillow & blankie that awaits me… ;)

280 Gus  Sep 8, 2014 9:11:00pm

re: #278 wrenchwench

Well, it’s out of my hands now….

Daisy. Daisy.

281 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:13:16pm

Earlier in the day, I went to a bike shop because it was near this other place I went, and so close I didn’t have to move the car. They had an INCREDIBLE collection of classic bicycles. Photos of those will be forthcoming, if they turned out ok.

282 BlueSpotinAL  Sep 8, 2014 9:13:45pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

The guy who depicted the President of the United States in the film “Idiocracy” tweeted this earlier.

[Embedded content]

It would have been perfect if he had said Brawndo instead of Kool-Aid.

283 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 9:14:03pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

AND I got a nose-kiss from the kitteh!

Finally my internet turned back on…twenty minutes later!

That was fun! Thank you so much for coming over tonight! We needed a break from schoolwork drudgery and a reason to actually cook something enjoyable :)

Safe flight in the morning and hope to see you again soon!

284 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 9:14:59pm

re: #263 wrenchwench

Thank you, Annemarie!

You are so welcome hon. This has been a great evening! :)

285 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 9:16:07pm

re: #277 Amory Blaine

We’re all jelly over the ceramic lizard. I demand pics of the idol!!!!

Will send pix by Wed hopefully! :D

286 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:17:44pm

re: #284 Aunty Entity Dragon

You are so welcome hon. This has been a great evening! :)

:-) :-) :-)

287 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 8, 2014 9:23:23pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

Off to bed, since I spent another hour and half on Robespierre and the Terror after you left.

sigh.

You sure you had to go? I would have much rather talked with you over late tea then research Madame Guillotine again…

Safe trip in the morning to you and see you soon.

Your Friend

Celtic Dragon

288 Varek Raith  Sep 8, 2014 9:25:21pm

Oh hai.

289 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:26:23pm

re: #287 Aunty Entity Dragon

Off to bed, since I spent another hour and half on Robespierre and the Terror after you left.

sigh.

You sure you had to go? I would have much rather talked with you over late tea then research Madame Guillotine again…

Safe trip in the morning to you and see you soon.

Your Friend

Celtic Dragon

I’ll be back….

I gotta shut down, pack, and go to bed.

It was a very nice way to end an otherwise kinda stressful visit. Thanks again.

290 wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2014 9:28:50pm

re: #288 Varek Raith

Oh hai.

Oh bai.

Later, lizards.

291 WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2014 9:35:38pm

I’m so going to miss her.

292 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 8, 2014 9:40:47pm

re: #274 William Barnett-Lewis

I don’t. The twit hurts everything he claims to love everytime he opens his mouth.

At best? The Left’s Nugent.

Way more articulate than Nugent.

293 thecommodore  Sep 8, 2014 9:44:37pm

YOU HAVEN’T PROVED THAT WHAT HE SAID ISN’T TRUE!! 1! 1!!! 11!!

294 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 8, 2014 10:03:09pm

re: #62 Kragar

“Imagine if Ray Rice’s fiancee had been armed…”

An’, an’ an’ Rice was armed too an’ they were gonna’ shoot each other only the elevator doors open first an’ there’s all these illegal immigrants and ISIS guys an’ Rice and his wife shoot ‘em all down an’ then they love each other an’ Rice promises not to hit her so much…

295 Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2014 10:08:00pm

I guess we had a bit of a problem with the web server, but we’re back up to speed now.

296 Jenner7  Sep 8, 2014 10:12:33pm
297 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 8, 2014 10:28:04pm

Evening Lizards. Mental note changing out the power supply and graphics card on a preconfigured ASUS rig is not as simple as one would think. Real annoying to have to reconfigure the boot sequence.

In other more fun news. We’re watching “Rapture-palooza” on Netflix. Pretty funny shit

298 klys  Sep 8, 2014 10:33:04pm

d 2333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333wseeeeeeeeeeeeeytggggggggkimmmmmmftttttttttttt6.

Just got home from dinner. Something tells me there was a cat on the keyboard.

Was also this:

Your search - 98oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo… - did not match any documents.

299 klys  Sep 8, 2014 10:51:24pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

I guess we had a bit of a problem with the web server, but we’re back up to speed now.

Sorry, the cat didn’t mean it.

300 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 10:58:47pm

re: #298 klys

That last part sounds like part of a Sad Cat tweet.

301 klys  Sep 8, 2014 10:59:16pm

re: #300 wheat-dogghazi

That last part sounds like part of a Sad Cat tweet.

Hah. Except for the whole 140 character limit, it does.

302 klys  Sep 8, 2014 11:04:05pm

So, as he phrases it, Wil Wheaton poked the Stupidsphere today.

303 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 11:11:25pm

re: #302 klys

Doing great, except he can’t spell his home state of “Georgua.”

304 klys  Sep 8, 2014 11:12:39pm

re: #303 wheat-dogghazi

Doing great, except he can’t spell his home state of “Georgua.”

I think the tweeter is a she, but yes.

305 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 11:14:05pm

Yep, he’s an epic level tenther ponce:

The third possible explanation I mentioned can be reduced to the perception that my legal views amount to nothing more than post hoc justifications to promote biases against classes of people —𠂫iases which I am therefore presumed to hold. Hence, I am:

-“Racist” for my belief that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is largely, if not completely, in excess of federal power, or that Bolling v. Sharpe, 347 U.S. 497 (1954) (reading the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause back into the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause in order to extend the desegregation mandate in Brown v. Board of Education to the District of Columbia), was just plain ridiculous;

-“Chauvinist,” “misogynist,” or the like, for my belief that, whatever it ultimately means, the Fourteenth Amendment does not at all prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender;

-“Homophobic” for my belief that laws criminalizing homosexual relations (regardless of whether they also criminalize identical heterosexual relations) do not run afoul of any provision of the United States Constitution;

-A “Nazi” for my belief that none of the provisions of the Bill of Rights either apply to the states or were somehow “incorporated” into the Fourteenth Amendment (except to the extent that they explicitly appear in the text of that Amendment—for example, the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause);
and the list goes on.

However, one who truly understands my views would never make these kinds of accusations, because it is so obviously unfair to attribute the consequences of the interpretive task to the interpreter himself. When original meaning textualism is properly employed, the interpreter’s sole focus is on objectively ascertaining the original public meaning of the substantive content of an already-enacted law; (s)he may, therefore, rightly and properly direct exclusive responsibility for the choice of that specific content to those responsible for the law’s passage (e.g., the legislature). To loosely analogize, the interpreter is merely a messenger of sorts —𠂪nd, as we all know from the old adage, it is never appropriate to shoot the messenger.

So the Constitution and most of the laws having been written by and for crusty, old, white, bigoted cock-bags, it’s incumbent upon the courts to honor every single hate filled, douchey, seemingly arbitrary, capricious and otherwise indefensible cloud-yelling, onion-belty bit of nonsense they came up with. Nice.

P.S. Donotlink didn’t work for me with this. Does it fail with https?

P.P.S. Wingnut bonus points for the McNaughton image background.

306 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 11:15:55pm

re: #304 klys

I have to grant her a slight concession in not knowing Wil Wheaton. He’s not all that well known outside of certain SF/techie circles, despite his occasional appearances on TV shows like The Big Bang Theory. (which I suppose appeals more to those of us in the aforementioned circles, and not to BMXMOM56.)

307 klys  Sep 8, 2014 11:16:18pm

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

Yep, he’s an epic level tenther ponce:

So the Constitution and most of the laws having been written by and for crusty, old, white, bigoted cock-bags, it’s incumbent upon the courts to honor every single hate filled, douchey, seemingly arbitrary, capricious and otherwise indefensible cloud-yelling, onion-belty bit of nonsense they came up with. Nice.

This view is, almost magically, predominantly espoused by white Christian males.

Funny that.

308 klys  Sep 8, 2014 11:16:54pm

re: #306 wheat-dogghazi

I have to grant her a slight concession in not knowing Wil Wheaton. He’s not all that well known outside of certain SF/techie circles, despite his occasional appearances on TV shows like The Big Bang Theory. (which I suppose appeals more to those of us in the aforementioned circles, and not to BMXMOM56.)

Oh, I won’t mock her not knowing him at all.

I will mock her claiming to do well and yet being unable to spell her home state/proofread her tweet.

309 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 11:18:05pm

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

In other words, we should chuck out the last several decades (or last 200 years, even) of SCOTUS decisions.

Yet another idjit who doesn’t understand how the US government works.

310 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 8, 2014 11:19:28pm

re: #308 klys

Agreed and updinged.

But now I has to go teach something to some peoples. See y’all in a few hours.

311 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 11:29:42pm

re: #307 klys

This view is, almost magically, predominantly espoused by white Christian males.

Funny that.

On top of everything else the guy earns extra wtf bonus points for self identifying as gay and jewish. Not that gay and jewish don’t go together, but it seems inconsistent with the rest of his insane libertarian tenther bullshit, inasmuch as most american gays and jews are liberal and know first hand to be wary of historic states rights abuses. I think he’s determined to not make sense fractally, so you can examine his life at every scale of magnification and still not have any goddamned clue how it all came together.

312 goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2014 11:51:34pm

Also, lastly, the worst Youtube channel ever.

313 Amory Blaine  Sep 9, 2014 12:03:35am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

He ignores centuries of history to whine that:

Women are beneficiaries of gender based protection
Old people are beneficiaries of age (workplace) based protections
Gay discrimination laws are a-ok in ‘Merica

314 goddamnedfrank  Sep 9, 2014 12:15:27am

re: #313 Amory Blaine

Amazing as it seems, the Youtube videos are a billion times worse. It’s him and his friends distilling their own poncey douche-baggey excretions down into a demi glace of pure cock-faced horribleness. Here’s one at random. Warning: Do not even think of trying to watch it all the way through, you must frequently grab the playhead and fast forward or the Abyss will stare back and make you wish you had died as a child.

Youtube Video

315 Amory Blaine  Sep 9, 2014 12:53:22am

re: #314 goddamnedfrank

Ha! I saw those. 2+ hours of ramblings. I’ll say this, he has a face for AM radio.

316 Romantic Heretic  Sep 9, 2014 3:02:30am

re: #242 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker is a fiscal genius. His IQ must crack the double digits.

Wisconsin state budget shortfall projected at nearly $1.8 billion

Who could have foreseen this would happen? /

317 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 3:08:04am

re: #316 Romantic Heretic

Who could have foreseen this would happen? /

Anybody with a modicum of sanity. But since those are in short supply in Wisconsin, I’d say Scotty will get reelected, then proceed to continue to drive his state into the fucking ground. Because backing up and acknowledging that balancing the state books by fucking over public unions hasn’t worked and there’s nobody left to blame for the revenue his tax cuts aren’t bringing in.

318 ausador  Sep 9, 2014 3:15:50am

re: #312 goddamnedfrank

Also, lastly, the worst Youtube channel ever.

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23 subscribers, wow that is a lot…

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319 simoom  Sep 9, 2014 3:37:14am

Dutch Saftey Board Preliminary Report into MH17 crash:

[Report Website]
[Full Report PDF]

320 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 3:49:08am

As I watch the news today showing pictures of sections of Newport News, Portsmouth, and Norfolk flooding to the point that cars are disappearing under the water, I find myself thinking back to the Republican politicians safe in Richmond declaring a few years back that global warming is not happening.

321 goddamnedfrank  Sep 9, 2014 3:50:08am

Three kittehs playing DJ.

Youtube Video

322 simoom  Sep 9, 2014 3:54:20am

re: #319 simoom

Page 14 of the report is worth a quick mention too, as it rebuts a frequently repeated conspiracy theory that claims the Ukrainian government is hiding the ATC recordings:

Page 15 is the written transcript.

323 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 3:55:50am

re: #319 simoom

In other words, the initial explanations offered by everyone but the Russians were in fact correct. The plane was shot down without provocation while at cruising altitude.

324 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 4:02:20am

My colleagues here from Ukraine spent the summer holiday back home, but not in Lugansk. Their families have moved from the city to a more remote village further away from the fighting. T., the voice teacher, told me several of her friends have been killed in the fighting, or are missing. And she says her family is not even sure staying in the village will be safe for much longer.

It’s a horrible situation, but there are no easy solutions. As long as the separatists have support from Mother Russia, the fighting will go on.

325 simoom  Sep 9, 2014 4:04:12am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi

The plane was shot down without provocation while at cruising altitude.

Also no indication they saw it coming or had any time to react. Page 19, on the Cockpit Voice Recorder:

326 Dark_Falcon  Sep 9, 2014 4:10:58am

re: #292 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Way more articulate than Nugent.

He also isn’t a racist.

327 Dark_Falcon  Sep 9, 2014 4:13:28am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi

In other words, the initial explanations offered by everyone but the Russians were in fact correct. The plane was shot down without provocation while at cruising altitude.

And Russia will reply to this report by yelling “COVER UP!!1 PLOT BY THE EVIL WEST TO DEFAME RUSSIA!!!11”. One of the very few good things about haters and assholes is that they’re fairly predictable.

328 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 4:17:14am

re: #325 simoom

Also no indication they saw it coming or had any time to react. Page 19, on the Cockpit Voice Recorder:

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Well, what commercial pilot expects to be shot out of the sky at 33,000 feet?

329 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 4:22:48am

It’s morning. Dogs are fed and … stuff.

you?

330 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 4:24:33am

It’s evening. And I need to feed myself dinner. It’s hot and muggy outside, so I don’t want to eat out. Spoiled American with aircon at home, am I.

331 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 4:38:29am

Man Dives into an Exploding Volcano

Youtube Video

So, what did you do last night?

332 Frenchy  Sep 9, 2014 4:41:20am

re: #317 Targetpractice

More tax cuts!!1! It will increase incentive to work hard and people working harder and earning more will increase revenue!!11! HURR DURR11!

333 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 4:43:41am

re: #291 WhatEVs

I’m so going to miss her.

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Joan, you were loved.

334 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 4:50:44am

The rage of right-wing bigots as they imagine “leftist book burners” who want to destroy book THAT DON’T EVEN EXIST

335 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 4:55:30am

re: #332 Frenchy

More tax cuts!!1! It will increase incentive to work hard and people working harder and earning more will increase revenue!!11! HURR DURR11!

PRIVATIZE!!1!

In a comprehensive review of the Virginia Information Technologies Agency, analysts found that the full scope of the agency’s authority is not clear and requires better and more transparent cooperation with other IT-related state agencies.

The report by the Joint Legislative Audit and Review Commission, known as JLARC, concluded that overlapping responsibilities between the VITA’s chief information officer and the secretary of technology create uncertainty about who is accountable for central IT decisions.

[…]

Virginia has outsourced all IT servicing in the largest privatization deal in the state’s history. But the 13-year contract with Northrop Grumman, worth more than $2.3 billion, effectively ends in 2019, and choices must be made in the next four years about the future of the state’s IT services, including whether to continue outsourcing.

timesdispatch.com

336 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 4:55:37am

MY SURPRISE. LET ME SHOW YOU IT.

337 Dark_Falcon  Sep 9, 2014 4:55:59am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

The rage of right-wing bigots as they imagine “leftist book burners” who want to destroy book THAT DON’T EVEN EXIST

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Matt Barber is being Dramatically Alarmed after trolling gay activists with a “book pitch” that was really a thinly-veiled dig at gay marriage.

He’s just further proving himself an asshole.

BBT

338 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 4:57:48am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

MY SURPRISE. LET ME SHOW YOU IT.

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It continues to amaze me that Trump is seen as some sort of business guru, considering how many times he’s been in bankruptcy court. Wait, scratch that, Trump himself always manages to avoid bankruptcy. His partners? Not so much.

339 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 4:58:48am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

MY SURPRISE. LET ME SHOW YOU IT.

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To be fair to Trump (God, I can not believe I just said those words), I don’t think he’s in anyway involved with that company anymore. I think he signed an agreement years ago that they could use his name and he would get some money, but he’s not involved day-to-day in the company.

340 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 4:58:51am

re: #338 Targetpractice

It continues to amaze me that Trump is seen as some sort of business guru, considering how many times he’s been in bankruptcy court. Wait, scratch that, Trump himself always manages to avoid bankruptcy. His partners? Not so much.

He has never had a PERSONAL bankruptcy, but it’s a managed business plan for all of his, um, ventures.

341 Frenchy  Sep 9, 2014 5:00:10am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

So, once aGAIN…

1. Conservative asshole writes hate piece. Check.
2. Reasonable and fair minded people renounce the hate piece, some harshly. Check.
3. Conservative asshole responds with “See, ‘the liberals’ have fallen for my clever trap and are now proving my point!!1!!” (Unclear what that point was/is supposed to be or how it has anything to do with original hate piece.) AAAAND check.

Looks like we’re done here.

342 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 5:04:00am

343 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 5:04:19am

bbl

344 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 9, 2014 5:05:42am

It’s unpleasant to deal with serial prevaricators like Hoft and Chuck C. Johnson, but sometimes you just have to take the horse by the tail and face the situation.

345 Amory Blaine  Sep 9, 2014 5:10:01am

re: #317 Targetpractice

Small piece of good news.

New poll gives Mary Burke edge over Gov. Scott Walker

A new poll gives challenger Mary Burke the lead over Gov. Scott Walker, but it’s within the margin of error.

Burke, a Democrat, had 48% of the vote and Walker, a Republican, had 44%, according to the new poll by We Ask America of Springfield, Ill. The survey found that 2% of those polled in Wisconsin favored a third-party candidate and 6% were undecided.

The automatic poll of 1,170 likely voters had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

We Ask America is largely owned by the Illinois Manufacturers Association, which has led Democrats to argue that its polling results lean Republican.

346 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 5:12:39am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

Boy, is that a guy who likes to hear himself talk…about himself.

This was my favorite: “During my fairly short tenure in the legal profession…”

To which I can only say Thank God.

347 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 5:12:43am

re: #345 Amory Blaine

Small piece of good news.

New poll gives Mary Burke edge over Gov. Scott Walker

You’d think that, with the way Scotty has blown his governorship, Burke’s lead would be wider. But I guess this is what happens when people get comfortable being fed a steady diet of bullshit.

348 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:20:10am
349 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 5:26:37am

re: #317 Targetpractice

Which means lowering taxes on business and raising taxes on everyone else.

350 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:35:58am

re: #347 Targetpractice

You’d think that, with the way Scotty has blown his governorship, Burke’s lead would be wider. But I guess this is what happens when people get comfortable being fed a steady diet of bullshit.

Bunch of fucking cheese heads. All Walker has to do to win reelection is say, “Do it for Vince Lombardi” That’s pretty much how he beat the recall. Wisconsin was so pissed he was almost on the street, then one tray of lutefisk at a rest home before the election later, they’re all, “Ooh he’s not so bad, no. Seems like a nice lad.”

351 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:45:42am
352 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:49:39am
353 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 5:50:40am

re: #352 darthstar

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ewwwwww!

that bugger could contain that new nasty enterovirus!!!

354 b.d.  Sep 9, 2014 5:51:21am

re: #352 darthstar

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EBOLA BOOGER! RUN!

355 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 5:53:04am

re: #352 darthstar

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Let’s be honest, America is pretty much defined by what we’re afraid of. Before ISIS it was Al-Qaeda. Before that it was Iraq. Before that it was the Soviets. And before that it was the Nazis. Our entire viewpoint since the US rose from a mid-ranked power to a superpower has been who will undermine our dominance.

356 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:53:38am

I know…it’s been over 1.5 million posts since I wrote ‘booger’ here for post # 9,000,000 - the zenith of my internet life.

357 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:54:42am

re: #355 Targetpractice

Let’s be honest, America is pretty much defined by what we’re afraid of. Before ISIS it was Al-Qaeda. Before that it was Iraq. Before that it was the Soviets. And before that it was the Nazis. Our entire viewpoint since the US rose from a mid-ranked power to a superpower has been who will undermine our dominance.

Yep, except between Al Qaeda and ISIS there was Obamacare.

358 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 5:55:07am
359 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 5:56:11am

REEFER MADNESS! came before BENGHAZI11ty!, Al Qaida, ISIS and Obamacare!

360 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 6:02:52am

Red-State Cities Find Euphemisms To Prepare for Global Warming

Big cities and small towns are shoring up dams and dikes, using roof gardens to absorb rainwater or upgrading sewage treatment plans to prevent overflows. Others are planting urban forests, providing more shady relief from extreme heat. Extension agents are helping farmers deal with an onslaught of newly arrived crop pests.

But in many places, especially strongholds of conservative politics, they’re planning for the volatile weather linked to rising temperatures by speaking of “sustainability” or “resilience,” while avoiding no-win arguments with skeptics over whether the planet is warming or that human activity is responsible.

361 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 6:04:22am

Happy Preliminary Election Day if that’s happening in your particular part of the country.

Happy Tuesday to the rest of you :)

362 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:06:05am

I KNEW that Texas had a big influence on text book selection thruout the country because of the volume they purchase, but is this also true?

363 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:06:08am

At some level, she realizes that the money’s gone…but this is still sad. But there are other football players who want to be in the NFL who don’t beat their wives, and Ray will find another job soon enough…just not for the same salary.

364 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:10:01am

Just out of curiosity, I have now seen a couple of references to autism re: Chuck C Johnson. Those references seem to imply that in past interviews Chuck himself has discussed autism. I am not looking to excuse him for his thoughts or behaviour. Far from it, I have been quite a vocal critic here and on Twitter. But if he does have Aspergers or something, it would explain a few things. It would still mean he is a douche and an asshole, but it might explain why he continues to post inane things oblivious to how he is perceived by the world. I have a nephew with Aspergers who is a great young adult now, politically engaged at a major US college. But when he was much younger, he had no filter on what came out of his mouth. At times it was hysterical, but at times also concerning. So all that to say, anyone hear anything about this?

365 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 6:12:22am

re: #363 darthstar

At some level, she realizes that the money’s gone…but this is still sad. But there are other football players who want to be in the NFL who don’t beat their wives, and Ray will find another job soon enough…just not for the same salary.

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Exactly. No one can tell the Rice family how to live their lives. If she loves him and wants to stay in the relationship (and is thinking clearly and not coerced) then that’s that. BUT, the NFL and the Ravens in particular do not have to stay in the relationship.

Unfortunately, the NFL and the Ravens are being coerced by public pressures to do the right thing. This decision should have been made 7 months ago.

366 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 9, 2014 6:15:20am

Good morning. I see that once again, money changes everything. Penn State looks like it’s going to have a big money making season so it’s allowed back into the playoffs by the greed heads at the NCAA. “Punishment? They don’t need no stinking punishment!”

npr.org

367 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 6:15:24am

re: #362 FemNaziBitch

Even without following the link, I can say it’s entirely plausible that McConnell gets most of his funding from outside Kentucky. Although he’s been a GOP power broker in KY for years, his influence and popularity are slowly waning in his home state. Not fast enough to suit me, but maybe this November we’ll see how weak his base has become.

368 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:15:45am

re: #363 darthstar

This is sad, on so many levels. I believe he will play again. League watches him over the course of the year. If he does the right things they will lift the ban. One thing we know, Ray Rice knows how to do the right things from a PR perspective. Someone will sign him on the premise of “everyone deserves a second chance”.

369 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 6:18:13am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

Good morning. I see that once again, money changes everything. Penn State looks like it’s going to have a big money making season so it’s allowed back into the playoffs by the greed heads at the NCAA. “Punishment? They don’t need no stinking punishment!”

npr.org

Penn State shouldn’t even have a football team anymore. If I’d had my way, I would have permanently banned them for coddling and covering for a child molester. No takebacks, no probation, nothing. Just a summary execution of Penn State football.

370 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 6:21:03am

re: #365 Franklin

Unfortunately, the NFL and the Ravens are being coerced by public pressures to do the right thing. This decision should have been made 7 months ago.

The only reason they fired and banned him is because the full video went public. They were perfectly fine with suspending him for two games and sweeping it all under the rug.

This wasn’t a harsh punishment by the Ravens or by the NFL. It was PR.

372 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:25:10am

re: #363 darthstar

At some level, she realizes that the money’s gone…but this is still sad. But there are other football players who want to be in the NFL who don’t beat their wives, and Ray will find another job soon enough…just not for the same salary.

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Yeah, that Cycle of Violence is a weird thing.

373 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:25:56am

Oh, did I tell you?

We learned that Feral Girl can, from a standing position, jump onto the kitchen counter!

She may be part boxer instead of part doberman.

374 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 6:29:56am

re: #363 darthstar

It’s sad on so many levels. Her husband got away with committing assault on her - local prosecutors diverted his case so he avoided prosecution. He avoided jail. He’s lucky in that respect that the only thing he’s lost is essentially a year’s salary.

He’ll be back in the sport by next year. Maybe making a little less than his salary this year, but like Michael Vick, Ben Rothelsberger, and Ray Lewis, he’ll be back on the gridiron because teams simply can’t pass up talent, even when that talent commit all manner of criminality.

This is still all on the NFL and Ravens. They knew, or had reason to know, of the video. They knew he committed assault, and yet they gave him a slap on the wrist. The only reason the NFL and Ravens did what they did yesterday is that the actual video of the assault surfaced courtesy of TMZ Sports. They would have been just as happy ignoring all this and letting the season play out.

The underlying facts of Rice’s case didn’t change one iota. It’s only that the public realized just what Rice did in the elevator - the vicious hit that sent her sprawling and knocked her out. The public had previously seen the video of Rice pulling an unconscious Janay out of the elevator, which hinted at what happened. That wasn’t enough to get more than 2 week suspension from the NFL and the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough?

The case reveals just how the NFL sees players and criminality. They’ll act only when the image of the sport or team is adversely impacted. The commissioner has always had the power to suspend people for the good of the game. Their “new” domestic violence policy just makes official the power that the commissioner has always had and makes it more consistent.

375 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 6:31:17am

re: #373 FemNaziBitch

Oh, did I tell you?

We learned that Feral Girl can, from a standing position, jump onto the kitchen counter!

She may be part boxer instead of part doberman.

If she starts walking up walls and hanging from the ceiling, she might have been bitten by a genetically modified spider.

376 Frenchy  Sep 9, 2014 6:31:48am

re: #371 FemNaziBitch

*sigh*

You know, some things really shouldn’t be political issues for anyone with a shred of human decency. An unarmed teen being gunned down by a cop while running away and/or surrendering is bad. A woman being straight cold cocked by her fiancé is bad.

Seriously, Rush, you don’t have to be a complete asshole about EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HAPPENS just for the sake of disagreeing with “the liberals!!1!”.

377 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 6:32:42am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s all the more egregious as there are still people coming forward to sue over the Sandusky abuse.

The university covered up the abuse for years.

I have zero sympathy for alum or current or even future students who go there and don’t have a football team to root for come bowl season.

The penalties should have stood.

378 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 6:33:45am

re: #370 Lidane

The only reason they fired and banned him is because the full video went public. They were perfectly fine with suspending him for two games and sweeping it all under the rug.

This wasn’t a harsh punishment by the Ravens or by the NFL. It was PR.

Exactly. I don’t think I made that clear in my post. It is unfortunate that they acted only after the video surfaced.

379 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 6:33:56am

re: #374 lawhawk

It’s simple enough. The NFL is a business, and businesses do what is in the best interest of their profits. Suspending Rice until the controversy blows over is like waiting out Vick’s conviction, a way for them to say they’ve paid their “debt to society” and granting them a “second chance.”

380 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:35:09am

Plight of the Panther

Video

kinda cool cause I know the videographer.

381 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:36:27am

re: #374 lawhawk

It’s sad on so many levels. Her husband got away with committing assault on her - local prosecutors diverted his case so he avoided prosecution. He avoided jail. He’s lucky in that respect that the only thing he’s lost is essentially a year’s salary.

He’ll be back in the sport by next year. Maybe making a little less than his salary this year, but like Michael Vick, Ben Rothelsberger, and Ray Lewis, he’ll be back on the gridiron because teams simply can’t pass up talent, even when that talent commit all manner of criminality.

This is still all on the NFL and Ravens. They knew, or had reason to know, of the video. They knew he committed assault, and yet they gave him a slap on the wrist. The only reason the NFL and Ravens did what they did yesterday is that the actual video of the assault surfaced courtesy of TMZ Sports. They would have been just as happy ignoring all this and letting the season play out.

The underlying facts of Rice’s case didn’t change one iota. It’s only that the public realized just what Rice did in the elevator - the vicious hit that sent her sprawling and knocked her out. The public had previously seen the video of Rice pulling an unconscious Janay out of the elevator, which hinted at what happened. That wasn’t enough to get more than 2 week suspension from the NFL and the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough?

The case reveals just how the NFL sees players and criminality. They’ll act only when the image of the sport or team is adversely impacted. The commissioner has always had the power to suspend people for the good of the game. Their “new” domestic violence policy just makes official the power that the commissioner has always had and makes it more consistent.

what I don’t understand is why such an act isn’t prosecuted as attempted murder or manslaughter. He could have killed her.

If a professional boxer or black belt did that, wouldn’t be be a very serious crime?

382 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 9, 2014 6:37:13am

In a way I mind the NFL less - they don’t pretend to be anything other than what they are. The crooks in charge at the NCAA however push this garbage that they are somehow purer and amateur and all that crap instead of being big money making minor leagues for the Pro Football and Basketball leagues.

I’m sorry but I won’t watch college athletics until the NCAA & their bag men (aka the college AD’s) all go to prison from a RICO investigation.

383 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:37:26am

Brilliant - image is small. Basically, some guy posted that he had emails linking the White House to back-channel support of liberal bloggers. Chuck Johnson took the bait.

384 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:38:39am

385 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:39:05am

386 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 6:39:45am
Their founder, Stewart Rhodes, believes Barack Obama is plotting to disarm American citizens and turn US cities into “giant concentration camps.”

Good grief, Obama still hasn’t disarmed all Patriot Americans? How much longer must we wait???

387 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 6:44:00am

re: #386 Bulworth

Good grief, Obama still hasn’t disarmed all Patriot Americans? How much longer must we wait???

We have to wait until after he runs for and wins his third term.

388 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:44:23am

re: #386 Bulworth

Good grief, Obama still hasn’t disarmed all Patriot Americans? How much longer must we wait???

Only two more years of fundraising off that line left, then it’s back to being pissed off because people won’t hire a racist asshole.

389 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:44:42am

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

390 Flounder  Sep 9, 2014 6:45:14am

This poor young lad is tired of this Presidency!!!

391 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:45:33am

re: #387 Lidane

We have to wait until after he runs for and wins his third term.

If the GOP was smart, and they’re not, they’d push for an end to presidential term limits effective immediately…then they could run against Obama forever!

392 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 6:46:01am

re: #381 FemNaziBitch

what I don’t understand is why such an act isn’t prosecuted as attempted murder or manslaughter. He could have killed her.

If a professional boxer or black belt did that, wouldn’t be be a very serious crime?

The prosecutor could have brought it as an attempted manslaughter charge, but he didn’t even bother going through with a prosecution on simple assault.

I question his judgment on doing so. Perhaps he thinks that a first-time offender should get benefit of doubt, but this video shows just how vicious he was. The prosecutors knew of this video, so even with what was depicted, they diverted anyways.

Is it a case where prosecutors went easy on someone because they were famous/important? Possibly.

393 Flounder  Sep 9, 2014 6:46:27am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Okay, stopping today to buy some googly eyes!!!!

394 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:47:01am

re: #381 FemNaziBitch

The diversion program as I understand it is available at the discretion of the prosecutor in first offences. In my eyes this would not have been the typd of case where it would have been used, but I am curious as to if it has been used in similar circumstances (as serious) for non-celebrities.

395 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:47:02am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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Dear god, there’s nothing organic in that fridge.

396 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:47:29am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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Someone get that person a vegetable.

397 Frenchy  Sep 9, 2014 6:47:40am

re: #387 Lidane

That’s when this whole dictator/tyrant thing they’ve been talking about is REALLY gonna get off the ground.

398 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 6:48:17am

this is the most psychotic, seizure-inducing meme you will ever see.

(Not embedding because trigger warning if you are prone to migraines)

399 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 6:48:45am

re: #374 lawhawk

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

400 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 6:49:12am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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That’s what my fridge looked like when I opened it during the power outage, except all the foods had little x’s where their eyes would have been.

401 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 6:50:01am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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I am sooooo going to do that!
:D

402 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 6:50:57am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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They must use a lot of ketchup (a bottle on the shelf and one in the door).

re: #396 Petero1818

Someone get that person a vegetable.

Vegetables? What are those?

403 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:51:00am

re: #399 sattv4u2

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

Except the prosecutor would have or should have had the video, and would have seen that was incorrect. S/he would not have needed Janay’s testimony in such a prosecution with video evidence like this.

404 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 6:51:34am

re: #399 sattv4u2

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

So she’s acting the stereotypical battered spouse, taking onto herself the blame. I wonder if she also thinks that staying with him is out of a belief that she can “change” him.

405 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:51:46am

SO THE White House has a Flicker stream.

I really like the pictures of POTUS interacting with children. Probably everyone does, that’s why there are so many of them.

There is one in there where he is sqatting downing to talk with a young child.

Yes, it’s very cute, but my first thought was, “Man, don’t his knees hurt?”

406 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 6:52:54am

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

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REEFER MADNESS! came before BENGHAZI11ty!, Al Qaida, ISIS and Obamacare!

But conversely, I have heard people that were flying on the hard stuff want to smoke some weed to mellow out.

407 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:53:16am

re: #392 lawhawk

The prosecutor could have brought it as an attempted manslaughter charge, but he didn’t even bother going through with a prosecution on simple assault.

I question his judgment on doing so. Perhaps he thinks that a first-time offender should get benefit of doubt, but this video shows just how vicious he was. The prosecutors knew of this video, so even with what was depicted, they diverted anyways.

Is it a case where prosecutors went easy on someone because they were famous/important? Possibly.

Or Domestic Violence seems like the charge du jour?

Seriously, historically, when a man beats a woman into a bloody mess or puts her in the hospital, why hasn’t it been thought of as attempted murder.

408 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:53:37am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

They must use a lot of ketchup (a bottle on the shelf and one in the door).

Vegetables? What are those?

Ketchup is a vegetable (thank you Ronald Reagan)

409 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 6:53:51am

re: #383 darthstar

Brilliant - image is small. Basically, some guy posted that he had emails linking the White House to back-channel support of liberal bloggers. Chuck Johnson took the bait.

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“Let me see them and I won’t fuck you over” “Jounalism!”

410 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 6:54:44am

re: #403 Petero1818

Except the prosecutor would have or should have had the video, and would have seen that was incorrect. S/he would not have needed Janay’s testimony in such a prosecution with video evidence like this.

Not entirely.

She does lay hands on him in the hallway, and does come up on him (can’t tell if she makes contact) in the elevator

That stated, he SHOULD be banned for LIFE by the NFL, she SHOULD leave his sorry ass and she SHOULD walk away with every asset he currently has, imho

411 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:55:04am

re: #399 sattv4u2

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

DV is a twisted mess.

412 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2014 6:55:05am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

They could call it something catchy and historical, like the Jefferson Davis Brigade.

I wouldn’t touch the volunteer brigade idea with a 10-foot pole. Too much chance it would generate a civilian massacre event instead of any sort of useful effect against ISIS fighters.

413 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 6:56:32am

I wonder if the Ravens are going to let go the idiot who wrote “I liked Rice yesterday and I like Ray Rice now.” Really, it’s nice they cut his ass when the full video came to light but their actions to me read like a franchise in damage control mode.

414 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 6:56:35am

re: #404 Targetpractice

So she’s acting the stereotypical battered spouse, taking onto herself the blame. I wonder if she also thinks that staying with him is out of a belief that she can “change” him.

Not to cast aspersions, but perhaps his $40 million contract also has a tad to do with it

415 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 6:56:46am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

Good morning. I see that once again, money changes everything. Penn State looks like it’s going to have a big money making season so it’s allowed back into the playoffs by the greed heads at the NCAA. “Punishment? They don’t need no stinking punishment!”

npr.org

Don’t want the savages exuberant white kids rioting again do you?

416 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 6:57:27am

re: #410 sattv4u2

Not entirely.

She does lay hands on him in the hallway, and does come up on him (can’t tell if she makes contact) in the elevator

That stated, he SHOULD be banned for LIFE by the NFL, she SHOULD leave his sorry ass and she SHOULD walk away with every asset he currently has, imho

She lays hands on him, but his response was WAY out of proportion. Her actions should not even be considered.

In Illinois, the court can choose to prosecute to the fullest extent even if the DV victim does not cooperate. The people of the State have passed laws that specifically and clearly state that such behavior is not welcome within our borders. Period.

417 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 6:58:02am

re: #410 sattv4u2

It was a playful tap outside the elevator. Like here I am, let’s go.

What happens inside the elevator is an entirely different set of circumstances. He towers over her in the corner of the elevator, and she feels threatened and pushes him away. He responds by assaulting her.

Then, after she’s knocked out, he drags her out of the elevator.

There was intent there to do harm.

A reasonable jury would have had no problem finding the assault charges were prudent.

418 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:58:13am

re: #414 sattv4u2

Not to cast aspersions, but perhaps his $40 million contract also has a tad to do with it

Yeah…but he’ll find other work.

419 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 6:59:17am
420 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 6:59:25am

re: #414 sattv4u2

Not to cast aspersions, but perhaps his $40 million contract also has a tad to do with it

I’m hesitant to suggest that part of her defense of him is due to his contract being terminated, but all the same I’m sure the sudden loss of that income is factoring into her defense of him.

421 Mattand  Sep 9, 2014 6:59:53am

re: #399 sattv4u2

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

Hey, kids! Let start off Tuesday morning with some down-home victim blaming!

And for fun, let’s punctuate like we never had a English lesson in our lives!*

*Apologies in advance if the punctuation problem is due to some ailment or disability.

422 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 6:59:55am

re: #419 darthstar

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Emoprogs are why we can’t have nice things.

423 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 7:00:04am

Sorry Gus, but that was funny.

424 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 7:00:31am

Fuck…7am. Best get moving.

425 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 7:01:38am

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s hit her before. I’m no psychologist at all but man thing just comes off as classic battered spouse syndrome. The whole taking immediate responsibility(Which she shouldn’t have) and now apparently blaming the media. I feel bad for her.

426 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 7:02:31am

re: #399 sattv4u2

,,,,,,the prosecutor didn’t think the case was serious enough

Rice’s wife was instrumental in that. She (basically) took the blame for inciting the attack saying she was to blame and struck 1st and asked the prosecutor not to pursue it any further

Even now she’s blaming “the media”, not Rice himself nor the incident, for ruining their lives

All that information should be irrelevant.

re: #414 sattv4u2

Not to cast aspersions, but perhaps his $40 million contract also has a tad to do with it

As mentioned above, it is highly likely there was a pre-nup and she wouldn’t get a lot of his $$ anyway.

And that does look kinda like an aspersion.

427 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:02:56am

re: #420 Targetpractice

I’m hesitant to suggest that part of her defense of him is due to his contract being terminated, but all the same I’m sure the sudden loss of that income is factoring into her defense of him.

Fear of being homeless is a big part of why so many women stay. Often they have been conditioned to be dependent. It takes a lot of courage to leave such a relationship.

I wish more people understood that.

428 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:03:59am

re: #418 darthstar

Yeah…but he’ll find other work.

“Do you want fries with that, sir?”

429 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 7:04:36am

BBL. Boarding time.

430 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:04:58am
431 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 7:05:15am

And, more importantly, spayed and neutered.

432 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:05:40am

THE CONDITIONING PROCESS — Power and Control

433 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 7:06:07am

re: #427 FemNaziBitch

Fear of being homeless is a big part of why so many women stay. Often they have been conditioned to be dependent. It takes a lot of courage to leave such a relationship.

I wish more people understood that.

Indeed, I’m sure he’s got her convinced that her marriage and thus the lifestyle she’s become accustomed to are linked to her putting up with the abuse. That if she thinks for a second she can stand up to him, he’ll divorce her ass and his lawyers will make sure she doesn’t get a single cent of the millions he’s worth.

434 b.d.  Sep 9, 2014 7:06:49am

re: #431 De Kolta Chair

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And, more importantly, spayed and neutered.

His IQ should be verified too.

435 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:07:33am

Domestic Violence Myths and Facts

MYTH: If the abuse was that bad, the victim would just leave.

FACT: Victims stay in abusive relationships for a variety of reasons. Some of these reasons include fear for physical safety, having no place to go, no access to money, hope that the violence will stop, etc. Some studies show that victims leave an average of 7 times before they leave for good, and that victims are more likely to be killed or seriously injured at the time of their departure.

it is often safer to STAY IN THE ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP

436 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:09:06am

re: #433 Targetpractice

Indeed, I’m sure he’s got her convinced that her marriage and thus the lifestyle she’s become accustomed to are linked to her putting up with the abuse. That if she thinks for a second she can stand up to him, he’ll divorce her ass and his lawyers will make sure she doesn’t get a single cent of the millions he’s worth.

Men who don’t have a pot to pee in and use their partner’s income to pay the bills brainwash that partner that they’ll be poor if they leave.

It has nothing to do with the size of the bank account.

It has to do with how good the abuser is at POWER AND CONTROL.

437 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:09:45am

re: #426 wrenchwench

All that information should be irrelevant.

SHOULD be,,, but apparently wasn’t wrt the prosecutor

it is highly likely there was a pre-nup and she wouldn’t get a lot of his $$ anyway.

We can speculate on that, but we really don’t know. And even if there’s one, doesn’t mean she would walk away empty handed

And that does look kinda like an aspersion.

ah well.There’s a lot of speculating so that’s just another

438 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 7:12:03am

re: #435 FemNaziBitch

Domestic Violence Myths and Facts

MYTH: If the abuse was that bad, the victim would just leave.

it is often safer to STAY IN THE ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP

Yeah, I’ve already been hearing that shit through the usual channels, that if the abuse was really that bad, she would have pressed charges and left him. That it can’t be “that bad” because she married him.

439 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:12:26am

Living in Fear, day-after-day-after year,

440 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 7:12:32am

re: #412 Feline Fearless Leader

I wouldn’t touch the volunteer brigade idea with a 10-foot pole. Too much chance it would generate a civilian massacre event instead of any sort of useful effect against ISIS fighters.

I was pulling DF’s chain re the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of the Spanish CW.

441 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:14:02am

This article highlighted DV in more affluent demographics

442 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:15:40am

re: #421 Mattand

Hey, kids! Let start off Tuesday morning with some down-home victim blaming!

And for fun, let’s punctuate like we never had a English lesson in our lives!*

*Apologies in advance if the punctuation problem is due to some ailment or disability.

if by “victim blaming” you mean using Rice’s wives actions/ words (asking the prosecutor not to charge Rice ,,,,, blaming the media for where they are at now) well then yes,,, yes I am!!!

{sigh}

443 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 7:16:11am

Couldn’t this sign be considered an implicit endorsement by the government of candidates with the surnames of Here, Aquí and 这里?

444 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2014 7:18:38am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

Good morning. I see that once again, money changes everything. Penn State looks like it’s going to have a big money making season so it’s allowed back into the playoffs by the greed heads at the NCAA. “Punishment? They don’t need no stinking punishment!”

npr.org

I remarked on this here a few years back when this broke that the NCAA levering punishment was the best thing that could happen to PSU. That way, they could tell their alumni that it was the NCAA hurting them, and then they would be back to “business as usual” within 5 years as a football factory school. And their alumni and students would fall right back into the “We Are Penn State” cult. (Many never left and still hold that Paterno was unjustly treated. They want the statue back NOW.)

445 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:20:12am

re: #438 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’ve already been hearing that shit through the usual channels, that if the abuse was really that bad, she would have pressed charges and left him. That it can’t be “that bad” because she married him.

All I can do is keep presenting the facts to remind everyone that there are rebuttals and talking points to use when trying not to listen to the Whackos.

446 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:22:22am

re: #444 Feline Fearless Leader

I remarked on this here a few years back when this broke that the NCAA levering punishment was the best thing that could happen to PSU. That way, they could tell their alumni that it was the NCAA hurting them, and then they would be back to “business as usual” within 5 years as a football factory school. And their alumni and students would fall right back into the “We Are Penn State” cult. (Many never left and still hold that Paterno was unjustly treated. They want the statue back NOW.)

“BUT he was such a good person, he did so much for the _________.”

NO, he was not a good person, he let children be fucked-in-the-ass FOR YEARS and did nothing about it.

No amount of good works can atone for being an accomplice to these crimes. Not on this earth, not in this lifetime.

PERIOD

447 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:22:27am

re: #421 Mattand

Also odd that you decided to totally ignore where I previously stated “That stated, he SHOULD be banned for LIFE by the NFL, she SHOULD leave his sorry ass and she SHOULD walk away with every asset he currently has, imho”

448 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:24:13am

re: #446 FemNaziBitch

“BUT he was such a good person, he did so much for the _________.”

NO, he was not a good person, he let children be fucked-in-the-ass FOR YEARS and did nothing about it.

No amount of good works can atone for being an accomplice to these crimes. Not on this earth, not in this lifetime.

PERIOD

Tell me again why a jury of one’s peers is a good thing? Murder and Rape need to be taken out of the local arena and be federal crimes. Tried in Federal Courts.

449 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:25:03am
450 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:25:12am

And, I’m off to nap with puppies.

have a good day all.

451 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 7:25:46am

re: #445 FemNaziBitch

All I can do is keep presenting the facts to remind everyone that there are rebuttals and talking points to use when trying not to listen to the Whackos.

No no, I wasn’t criticizing you, just the usual suspects. I’ve heard enough about DV to know most of this stuff by heart.

452 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 7:25:59am

re: #431 De Kolta Chair

Yeah, he’s impersonating a “journalist”.

453 FemNaziBitch  Sep 9, 2014 7:27:03am

re: #451 Targetpractice

No no, I wasn’t criticizing you, just the usual suspects. I’ve heard enough about DV to know most of this stuff by heart.

Keep spreading the correct information!

Men’s voices count.

454 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 7:28:31am

re: #428 sattv4u2

Like Vick and other criminals who have played in the NFL before prosecutions, convictions, and/or suspensions, Rice will return to the NFL eventually, and will get compensated for it.

I’m putting the over/under at 1 year.

455 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2014 7:31:10am

A belated good morning Lizards. Cloudy and 70F today. Hope the rain holds off since I have a ticket to the baseball game tonight (Phillies-Pirates).

Also back in Philly for the first time in over two weeks. The Feline Overlords were pleased to be back on full staff. More than one meal a day and someone to hang around with other than the other cat.

456 A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2014 7:31:43am

re: #435 FemNaziBitch

Thank you. I’m SO tired of this shit. “Why doesn’t she just leave? Why is she defending him or keeping silent?” I NEVER hear the first question being “What the fuck is WRONG WITH HIM? Why is he such an asshole? What the fuck is going on in this culture that this is so common?” No, it’s almost always something about the victim first.

You know what domestic violence cases all have in common? A PERPETRATOR.

And I’ll say this again too: I can assure you, this is NOT the first or the last time he hit her. It NEVER happens “only once”. It just doesn’t work that way.

457 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2014 7:33:23am

re: #456 A Mom Anon

Thank you. I’m SO tired of this shit. “Why doesn’t she just leave? Why is she defending him or keeping silent?” I NEVER hear the first question being “What the fuck is WRONG WITH HIM? Why is he such an asshole? What the fuck is going on in this culture that this is so common?” No, it’s almost always something about the victim first.

You know what domestic violence cases all have in common? A PERPETRATOR.

And I’ll say this again too: I can assure you, this is NOT the first or the last time he hit her. It NEVER happens “only once”. It just doesn’t work that way.

All too true. They never seem to ask “Why did he hit her?” instead of asking about the reaction after the hitting took place. It sounds like they accept violence in relationships as something to be naturally expected.

Which I guess does say a lot about preconceptions.

458 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 7:33:28am

re: #454 lawhawk

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Like Vick and other criminals who have played in the NFL before prosecutions, convictions, and/or suspensions, Rice will return to the NFL eventually, and will get compensated for it.

I’m putting the over/under at 1 year.

Put me down for 3 months. Just long enough that people will have moved onto the next big controversy and the NFL will have had time to remake Ray as “troubled” but “getting help.”

459 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:33:33am

re: #454 lawhawk

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Like Vick and other criminals who have played in the NFL before prosecutions, convictions, and/or suspensions, Rice will return to the NFL eventually, and will get compensated for it.

I’m putting the over/under at 1 year.

I’d take that wager. MAJOR differences in the Vick/ Rice cases
1st, the victim(s). As a pet lover/ owner I find what Vick did vile, but , as bad as what it was he didn’t do it to a human.
2nd, after the beating the NFL is taking in this case it would be a PR nightmare (unlike with Vick, who DID serve jail time on top of the suspension and it was 2 years before he played again)

460 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 7:35:56am

Crazy Uncle Pat is rambling again:

“Look, we’d better realize here that the United States itself is in tremendous long-term danger, I think, and the bleeding border along our southern border, the mass movement of people from all over the world into this country, the decomposition of this country socially and culturally, politically, all of these things, it seems to me, are far greater long-term threats to the United States than even those dreadful characters over there in Syria or Iraq beheading people,” Buchanan said in audio captured by WorldNetDaily.

Buchanan went on to echo Phyllis Schlafly’s warning that new immigrants will largely vote Democratic, thereby destroying America.

461 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 7:36:31am

re: #457 Feline Fearless Leader

All too true. They never seem to ask “Why did he hit her?” instead of asking about the reaction after the hitting took place. It sounds like they accept violence in relationships as something to be naturally expected.

Which I guess does say a lot about preconceptions.

No, the ones who are disgusting are the ones who do ask “Why did he hit her?,” but then automatically assume that she did something to provoke him. Hence the efforts by his defenders to say she hit him first, that she said something or “got up in his face” that led to his hitting her in “self-defense.”

462 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 7:37:49am

re: #428 sattv4u2

“Do you want fries with that, sir?”

For 40 million dollars I’d better get fries.

463 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 7:38:46am

re: #462 darthstar

For 40 million dollars I’d better get fries.

For 40 mil you better get every potato in Oregon!

464 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 7:39:50am

re: #460 Lidane

Crazy Uncle Pat is rambling again:

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Two pathetic old racist relics of the 60’s those two who should have lost any credibility long ago but still because this shit sells to right wingers are still very relevant in 2014 America.

465 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 7:42:37am

re: #454 lawhawk

If he does the “right things” this year and many of those are part of his diversion program anyways, I suspect someone will sign him in the offseason next summer to give him a “2nd chance”. The reality is that there are currently 3 other active NFL players facing DV charges. The most they will get is 6 game suspension. The video is disgusting. But the offence is not any worse than others that commit DV. Unless the NFL changes rule again to a lifetime ban, I suspect he will be signed this summer.

466 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 7:42:40am

*headdesk*

This is what we’re saddled with in Texas. I weep for my state:

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s lawyers invoke Louis XIV to dismiss charges

Rebutting the lawsuit’s contention that Perry had overstepped his authority by vetoing the funds, his lawyers argued that he was operating within the constraints on his office imposed by the state constitution.

“A Texas Governor is not Augustus traversing his realm with a portable mint and an imperial treasure in tow; he no more has custody or possession of the State’s general revenue funds than does any Texan. No governor can say of his or her state what the Sun King said of France: “L’etat c’est moi,” it said.

467 Jenner7  Sep 9, 2014 7:43:29am

re: #456 A Mom Anon

It breaks my heart to see that she’s blaming herself and the media for HIS actions. I don’t blame her for being upset the video was released, but again, this wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for her husbands actions. I’m getting quite tired of hearing that she ‘put her hands on him’. Not really, and even so, it’s irrelevant. He’s much bigger and the way he responded was horrible.

I feels sorry for her. I want to shake some sense into her though.

468 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 7:44:01am

re: #466 Lidane

*headdesk*

This is what we’re saddled with in Texas. I weep for my state:

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s lawyers invoke Louis XIV to dismiss charges

Should I be impressed that someone in his office knows French or SMH because they’re using an absolute monarch to justify their actions.

469 Varek Raith  Sep 9, 2014 7:44:25am

re: #466 Lidane

*headdesk*

This is what we’re saddled with in Texas. I weep for my state:

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s lawyers invoke Louis XIV to dismiss charges

Most amusing.

470 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 7:46:02am

re: #466 Lidane

Hey, is he invoking foreign law too? I thought GOPers were against that sort of thing. /

471 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 7:49:40am

re: #460 Lidane

Crazy Uncle Pat is rambling again:

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“I asked for pie and I got pie.”

472 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 7:49:50am

This guy is a child abuse investigator, and he really took on the issue of DV in his tweets last night. So much so, that he eventually tweeted “trigger warning” so, if needed, people could mute him for the duration.

ETA: it was Upchuck’s tweet trolling #WhyIStayed that set him off.

473 A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2014 7:53:18am

re: #467 Jenner7

That frustration is part of why people kind of give up on victims. Not you, but the culture in general doesn’t understand the dynamics of violent relationships. Scroll back and read Femi Nazi’s links about that, I encourage everyone to do so. So you understand. Mrs Rice is scared, of more violence, more coercion, more shaming, and yes, losing her livelihood. Not because she’s some gold digger either. This is common across the board, even where the abuser has little or no income. It’s about power, control and shame. Those are powerful things. If nothing else, this horror might get people to start talking in positive ways about the issue, which hopefully drowns out the idiots on Fox and the MRA crowd. That shame should be thrown on them, not the victims.

474 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 7:56:39am

Hey man.

475 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 7:57:40am

re: #443 De Kolta Chair

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Couldn’t this sign be considered an implicit endorsement by the government of candidates with the surnames of Here, Aquí and 这里?

Sorry to correct your Chinese, but it would be “Here, Aquí and 在此”

That’s what the sign says.

476 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 8:01:47am

re: #475 wheat-dogghazi

Sorry to correct your Chinese, but it would be “Here, Aquí and 在此”

Thanks!

477 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 8:02:32am

Ah well

Golf lesson time beckons

I pray my instructor took a valium this morning!!

478 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 8:03:28am

David Limbaugh has a new book out about the trial of Jesus. Yeah, I’m sure that will win converts.

//

479 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 8:04:31am

For the first time since it’s been on the ballot here in NY, I’m voting against the Working Families Party’s slate for its endorsement of Cuomo, and I don’t think I’m the only one.

480 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:04:37am

re: #478 Bulworth

David Limbaugh has a new book out about the trial of Jesus. Yeah, I’m sure that will win converts.

//

Does he follow the Sorbo line of reasoning and also throw in that the socialist Juice killed Jesus because he believed in freedom and free enterprise?

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481 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 8:04:59am

There’s also a new book on Benghazi!. At this point wingnut media has turned out more books on Benghazi! than the original 9/11.

482 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2014 8:05:09am

re: #416 FemNaziBitch

What a difference famous makes. I have a friend that got in a hellacious argument with her cheating husband and gave him an open handed slap that left a red mark. She did time (3 days) in county for that. This was maybe 3 years or so after the OJ Simpson debacle.

483 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 8:05:55am

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I think this would freak-me-out in the morning.

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At least until you’ve had that third cup of coffee. :-D

484 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 8:06:39am

re:
#472

You mean Award-Winning Journalist trolled the WhyIStayed thread?

Shocking. Just out to get the Truth, I’m sure.

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485 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:06:58am

re: #466 Lidane

*headdesk*

This is what we’re saddled with in Texas. I weep for my state:

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s lawyers invoke Louis XIV to dismiss charges

As one commenter notes, it’s not that Perry used the powers of his office, it’s that he was dumb enough to threaten the DA with funds being cut if she did not resign. If he’d found some other reason to cut the funds or just cut them without comment, there would be nothing to charge him with.

486 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 8:07:38am

oh good freakin grief…

487 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:07:59am

re: #476 De Kolta Chair

There are two ways of saying here: 这里 (zhe li) and 在此 (zai ci). The first is used for location “she is here”, and the second for location inside something: “Vote inside” — at least, based on my still developing sense of Chinese grammar.

488 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:08:41am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

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Social media marketing, how the fuck does that work?

489 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:09:01am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

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Idiots.

490 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 8:09:16am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sound you hear is an intern getting fired.

491 Varek Raith  Sep 9, 2014 8:11:17am

My downstream is now slower than my upstream.
I don’t even…
XD
Good(?) morning.

492 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:12:40am

re: #490 Lidane

That sound you hear is an intern getting fired.

I’ve inhabited the Internet long enough to develop a fact-checking reflex. Before jumping into some discussion, first find out WTF they’re talking about AND if WTF they’re talking about actually exists.

It’s a sad commentary on life today when I had to verify from two reliable sources than indeed Joan Rivers had died.

493 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:13:01am

A moment of unintentional honesty…

494 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 8:13:11am

re: #477 sattv4u2

Ah well

Golf lesson time beckons

I pray my instructor took a valium this morning!!

495 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:13:45am

re: #493 Targetpractice

A moment of unintentional honesty…

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Well I am glad to see some uh honesty from the GOP.

496 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 8:14:09am

re:
#486

The Internet: How does it work?

497 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 8:14:25am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

They must use a lot of ketchup (a bottle on the shelf and one in the door).

Vegetables? What are those?

Ketchup IS a vegetable!! Isn’t it?

498 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 8:16:10am

re: #494 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Speaking of dogs and golf, I watched a bit of “The Legend of Bagger Vance” the other day. Gawd, what an awful flick.

499 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:17:28am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

Well I am glad to see some uh honesty from the GOP.

Of course, it’s from a Republican who lost his primary and thus is effectively flapping in the breeze. If the statement gets picked up and his soon-to-be-former colleagues asked about it, they’ll automatically deny it.

500 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 8:17:48am

re: #429 wrenchwench

BBL. Boarding time.

Safe Travels!

501 Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2014 8:18:48am

re: #493 Targetpractice

A moment of unintentional honesty…

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That’s not exactly accurate. They’ll denounce it if it goes bad and criticize if it doesn’t.

502 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:18:52am

re: #491 Varek Raith

My downstream is now slower than my upstream.
I don’t even…
XD
Good(?) morning.

One of the pages here mentions that AT&T and Verizon consider 4MBbps more than adequate for most consumers, and don’t want the FCC bumping broadband up to 10Mbps.

Today I got an email offer for a set-top box in China that would stream over the Internet 160 cable TV channels using my existing broadband connection. The makers recommend at least a 5Mbps downstream rate. So, if I bought this thingie in the USA, AT&T and Verizon would either choke my bandwidth or force me to pay extra to use streaming TV.

503 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 8:21:05am

re: #502 wheat-dogghazi

One of the pages here mentions that AT&T and Verizon consider 4MBbps more than adequate for most consumers, and don’t want the FCC bumping broadband up to 10Mbps.

Today I got an email offer for a set-top box in China that would stream over the Internet 160 cable TV channels using my existing broadband connection. The makers recommend at least a 5Mbps downstream rate. So, if I bought this thingie in the USA, AT&T and Verizon would either choke my bandwidth or force me to pay extra to use streaming TV.

They are just staying neutral.

504 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:21:23am

re: #501 Skip Intro

That’s not exactly accurate. They’ll denounce it if it goes bad and criticize if it doesn’t.

Ayep, if it works, they’ll say that it would have been even “better” if done earlier/larger/faster, then run starting next year on how “decisive” they are.

505 Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2014 8:21:28am

re: #502 wheat-dogghazi

4MBbps isn’t adequate for high def streaming, and forget about using the internet for anything else while you’re doing it.

Ain’t monopolies grand?

506 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 8:22:58am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

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So insane I actually believe that they had no idea. Wow.

507 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:23:54am

re: #502 wheat-dogghazi

One of the pages here mentions that AT&T and Verizon consider 4MBbps more than adequate for most consumers, and don’t want the FCC bumping broadband up to 10Mbps.

Today I got an email offer for a set-top box in China that would stream over the Internet 160 cable TV channels using my existing broadband connection. The makers recommend at least a 5Mbps downstream rate. So, if I bought this thingie in the USA, AT&T and Verizon would either choke my bandwidth or force me to pay extra to use streaming TV.

One of those asshole communications industry associations is running ads on WTOP (a 24/7 news station in Washington, D.C.) urging citizens to tell Congress to: KEEP THE GOVERNMENT’S HANDS OFF TEH INTERNETS!!1!

508 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:24:40am

re: #507 Timothy Watson

One of those asshole communications industry association is running ads on WTOP (a 24/7 news station in Washington, D.C.) urging citizens to tell Congress to: KEEP THE GOVERNMENT’S HANDS OFF TEH INTERNETS!!1!

Would that be the same Washington who created the Internet?

509 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:25:08am

re: #507 Timothy Watson

It’s these assholes I’m pretty sure:
ncta.com

510 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:27:09am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

Would that be the same Washington who created the Internet?

There you go with your facts!

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511 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:27:33am

re: #505 Skip Intro

4MBbps isn’t adequate for high def streaming, and forget about using the internet for anything else while you’re doing it.

Ain’t monopolies grand?

American monopolies seem to have the business model of providing as little as possible and charging as much as possible for it. Chinese telecom companies (of which there are only three), which are quasi-monopolies, have a different business model: offer up-to-date services and charge reasonable prices. They are aggressively building out 4G networks, even in my podunk town.

I have the luxury here of free Internet provided by the university. When I visited my kids last month, I was going bonkers dealing with their pokey Internet connections. And spotty mobile data coverage.

512 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 8:29:45am

re: #456 A Mom Anon

Thank you. I’m SO tired of this shit. “Why doesn’t she just leave? Why is she defending him or keeping silent?” I NEVER hear the first question being “What the fuck is WRONG WITH HIM? Why is he such an asshole? What the fuck is going on in this culture that this is so common?” No, it’s almost always something about the victim first.

You know what domestic violence cases all have in common? A PERPETRATOR.

And I’ll say this again too: I can assure you, this is NOT the first or the last time he hit her. It NEVER happens “only once”. It just doesn’t work that way.

And then the racist choir will chime in: TYPICAL BLACKS/HISPANICS/MUSLIMS/POORS/BROWNS/(WHATEVER ETHNIC GROUP YOU DON’T LIKE) ARE ALL LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!

513 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:30:23am

re: #510 Timothy Watson

There you go with your facts!

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514 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 8:35:46am

re: #505 Skip Intro

4MBbps isn’t adequate for high def streaming, and forget about using the internet for anything else while you’re doing it.

Ain’t monopolies grand?

This is what I don’t quite get. These companies are trying to block a definitional change of broadband speed from 4mps to 10mps.

That’s even though these companies are already providing service at an even higher level in many areas. In my area, Verizon FiOS provides 300/300. I’m currently paying for 50/50 in a bundle.

My sense is that they don’t want to spend more to give rural areas similar service, because their rate of return on investing in new fiber isn’t as great as for urban areas. Redefining what broadband is would force the carriers to either up their existing speeds in these areas given the current infrastructure, or spend more to do so.

I say make the changes. In the long run, it wont hurt the companies, let alone the customers.

515 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:38:49am

re: #514 lawhawk

This is what I don’t quite get. These companies are trying to block a definitional change of broadband speed from 4mps to 10mps.

That’s even though these companies are already providing service at an even higher level in many areas. In my area, Verizon FiOS provides 300/300. I’m currently paying for 50/50 in a bundle.

My sense is that they don’t want to spend more to give rural areas similar service, because their rate of return on investing in new fiber isn’t as great as for urban areas. Redefining what broadband is would force the carriers to either up their existing speeds in these areas given the current infrastructure, or spend more to do so.

I say make the changes. In the long run, it wont hurt the companies, let alone the customers.

I think their game is to ensure *they* define what broadband is or is not, so they can peddle 4Mpbs as broadband in rural areas while providing faster service in the more profitable urban areas.

516 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 8:43:03am

The stupid is strong with this one. Grab yer hip waders and hazmat suits:

William Gheen: Obama Wants ISIS To Attack US So He Can Win Election, Impose Dictatorship

“ISIS could cut off the heads of journalists once a month for the next five years and that’s not going to destroy America, but Obama’s pumping of illegal immigrants into the country will,” Gheen said.

He said the Obama administration was “going into full stealth mode” to continue its open-borders policy as quietly as possible, and may even give the impression to some on the left that it is abandoning its commitment to “comprehensive immigration reform,” which is a euphemism for amnesty. The progressives will shout and scream that Obama is backing away from his pledge to grant amnesty by delaying the inevitable, but this is all political theater, in Gheen’s eyes.

“The only thing I believe that will stop Obama’s next window of completing the dictatorship plans is if there is a massive sweep of conservatives at the election polls in November that outdoes the historic shift of 2010,”

517 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:43:47am

re: #515 wheat-dogghazi

I think their game is to ensure *they* define what broadband is or is not, so they can peddle 4Mpbs as broadband in rural areas while providing faster service in the more profitable urban areas.

That was my conclusion as well. Define 10Mpbs as the lower limit and they can’t sell it at a premium in rural areas.

518 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:44:45am

re: #516 Lidane

The stupid is strong with this one. Grab yer hip waders and hazmat suits:

William Gheen: Obama Wants ISIS To Attack US So He Can Win Election, Impose Dictatorship

Well that tears it, I’m never voting for Obama again!

519 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:44:50am

re: #516 Lidane

The stupid is strong with this one. Grab yer hip waders and hazmat suits:

William Gheen: Obama Wants ISIS To Attack US So He Can Win Election, Impose Dictatorship

I don’t think Mr. Gheen understands how dictatorships work.

520 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:45:26am

re: #516 Lidane

The stupid is strong with this one. Grab yer hip waders and hazmat suits:

William Gheen: Obama Wants ISIS To Attack US So He Can Win Election, Impose Dictatorship

Those 60,000 kids from Central America? Sleeper agents for ISIS. Mark my words.

//

521 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:45:43am

Obama is doing _______ so he can do ______ to conservatives.

522 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:46:08am

re: #520 wheat-dogghazi

Those 60,000 kids from Central America? Sleeper agents for ISIS. Mark my words.

//

Oh yeah my brother’s future brother in law. Total ISIS sleeper.

523 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:48:14am

re: #522 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah my brother’s future brother in law. Total ISIS sleeper.

Better keep an eye on that one. //

524 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:50:02am

re: #523 wheat-dogghazi

Better keep an eye on that one. //

Oh I am but only because I want to try El Salvadorian food!

525 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:50:17am

You know, it would be so easy to craft that snarky remark about 60,000 Central American sleeper agents into an Internet rumor that Dim Hoft would promote on his website as True Facts.

526 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 8:50:27am

re: #524 HappyWarrior

Oh I am but only because I want to try El Salvadorian food!

honestly, having had it, it can be lacking flavor.

527 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 8:50:37am
528 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:51:33am

re: #526 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

honestly, having had it, it can be lacking flavor.

That’s too bad. Deport them all,//

529 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:52:56am

re: #524 HappyWarrior

Oh I am but only because I want to try El Salvadorian food!

One of my American food experiences last month was to have Cuban food, in Louisville, KY. Not as spicy as I had expected, but still very tasty. It was my first taste of yucca, which is a lot like a potato or some other root starch in flavor and texture.

530 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 8:53:20am

re: #527 Gus

Hey man.

I think I just lost a couple dozen IQ points reading that…

531 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:53:30am

What is it about Republicans and the need to compare everything to a plantation?

532 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 8:54:21am

re: #531 Targetpractice

What is it about Republicans and the need to compare everything to a plantation?

It’s heritage not hate! Why do you hate America?!

533 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:54:28am

re: #529 wheat-dogghazi

One of my American food experiences last month was to have Cuban food, in Louisville, KY. Not as spicy as I had expected, but still very tasty. It was my first taste of yucca, which is a lot like a potato or some other root starch in flavor and texture.

I’ve had Cuban. Not just the Cuban sandwiches. IT’s good and I’ve enjoyed yucca when I’ve had it at mostly Peruvian restaurants due to the SiL being from there.

534 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:54:59am

re: #531 Targetpractice

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What is it about Republicans and the need to compare everything to a plantation?

Does this mean Harry whips Ted Cruz when he tries to escape?

535 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:55:21am

Shorter Republicans, we wish we could run America like a plantation.

536 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 8:55:27am

re: #530 Timothy Watson

I think I just lost a couple dozen IQ points reading that…

“This story is genius.”

537 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 8:55:30am

re: #529 wheat-dogghazi

One of my American food experiences last month was to have Cuban food, in Louisville, KY. Not as spicy as I had expected, but still very tasty. It was my first taste of yucca, which is a lot like a potato or some other root starch in flavor and texture.

Masochistic Tex-Mex pepper poppers have sort of warped expectations of Latin American food. There used to be a nice Argentinian restaurant in NYC. It tasted a lot like Oklahoman food in OK.

538 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 8:55:32am

re: #534 HappyWarrior

Does this mean Harry whips Ted Cruz when he tries to escape?

If only …

539 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 8:58:58am

Fox has a habit of bringing on guests who debunk their conspiracy theories. One might almost classify it as self-destructive.

540 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 8:59:35am

re: #537 Decatur Deb

Masochistic Tex-Mex pepper poppers have sort of warped expectations of Latin American food. There used to be a nice Argentinian restaurant in NYC. It tasted a lot like Oklahoman food in OK.

Argentine has good steaks. That’s the extent to my experiences with it though.

541 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:00:28am

re: #529 wheat-dogghazi

One of my American food experiences last month was to have Cuban food, in Louisville, KY. Not as spicy as I had expected, but still very tasty. It was my first taste of yucca, which is a lot like a potato or some other root starch in flavor and texture.

Cuban food is delicious.

542 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 9:00:35am

re: #529 wheat-dogghazi

One of my American food experiences last month was to have Cuban food, in Louisville, KY. Not as spicy as I had expected, but still very tasty. It was my first taste of yucca, which is a lot like a potato or some other root starch in flavor and texture.

Cuban food is awesome. There’s a Cuban joint here in Austin that makes the best lechon asado I’ve ever had. They pair it with yucca dressed up with olive oil, garlic, onion, & lime. I add in some congris (white rice & black beans) and some fried plantains and I’m set.

543 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:01:10am

re: #537 Decatur Deb

Masochistic Tex-Mex pepper poppers have sort of warped expectations of Latin American food. There used to be a nice Argentinian restaurant in NYC. It tasted a lot like Oklahoman food in OK.

Fiery food seems to be limited to only certain locales. In China, Sichuan and Hunan are famous for their peppery cuisine, but adjacent provinces avoid being so heavy handed with chilis. Students from the north and south coming here have as hard a time adjusting to Hunan cuisine as I did six years ago.

544 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 9:01:33am

yep…they’re sorry

545 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:02:53am

re: #542 Lidane

Cuban food is awesome. There’s a Cuban joint here in Austin that makes the best lechon asado I’ve ever had. They pair it with yucca dressed up with olive oil, garlic, onion, & lime. I add in some congris (white rice & black beans) and some fried plantains and I’m set.

That’s exactly what I had in Louisville, though the yucca was plain. We had fried plantain chips with guac for the appetizer. So damned good!

546 Dr. Matt  Sep 9, 2014 9:02:55am
547 Ace-o-aces  Sep 9, 2014 9:04:15am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

548 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 9:04:21am

re: #537 Decatur Deb

Masochistic Tex-Mex pepper poppers have sort of warped expectations of Latin American food. There used to be a nice Argentinian restaurant in NYC. It tasted a lot like Oklahoman food in OK.

The dipshits who eat hot food for the sake of hot food ruin everything. Heat is not a flavor. Peppers and spices are meant to enhance foods, not overwhelm them.

Also? What passes for Tex-Mex is terrible. I don’t like sour cream all over my plate. :-P

549 Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 9, 2014 9:05:13am

re: #537 Decatur Deb

When I lived in Costa Rica and would visit family and friends in Texas, people found it funny that one of the “must haves” while home was always Mexican food because they think that all Latin American food is the same as Mexican. It’s not, not by a long shot.

550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:05:39am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

That’s too bad. Deport them all,//

Ok I sort of take that back. Some Salvadoran food is pretty good. I do like papusas (if made with rice flour instead of corn) and the national sandwich “pan con pavo” (a super fancy turkey sandwich) is pretty good but it gets old quickly.

When I was down in El Salvador the majority of restaurants were all American with the exception of some smaller salvadoran places that basically served papusas, pan con pavo sandwiches, meat empanadas and soups. Of course this was inland. Down at the coast you get a lot of seafood which is almost mexican style but not even close to being spicy.

When my wife’s aunt was staying with us after my father-in-law passed away I was doing the cooking and she was raving about the food saying I should open a restaurant down in El Salvador since they had nothing like what I was making.

The food is very basic which is ok if it’s your thing. I was hoping for stuff a little more exotic myself.

551 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 9:05:58am

Wingnuts are actually going around saying that SEIU union has MOAR MONEYS THEN TEH POOR HELPLESS KOCH BROTHERS HURR HURR

552 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 9:07:25am

I paged the DiGiorno tweet thing.

553 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:07:47am

re: #551 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are actually going around saying that SEIU union has MOAR MONEYS THEN TEH POOR HELPLESS KOCH BROTHERS HURR HURR

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Who are these five Cubans he’s babbling about anyhow?

554 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:08:44am

re: #550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I kinda suspect we Americanize every cuisine coming from abroad, so that people have wrong expectations once they visit those countries. The Chinese food I have here is nothing like what is served in most places in the USA, and that’s a good thing.

555 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:08:47am

re: #550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ok I sort of take that back. Some Salvadoran food is pretty good. I do like papusas (if made with rice flour instead of corn) and the national sandwich “pan con pavo” (a super fancy turkey sandwich) is pretty good but it gets old quickly.

When I was down in El Salvador the majority of restaurants were all American with the exception of some smaller salvadoran places that basically served papusas, pan con pavo sandwiches, meat empanadas and soups. Of course this was inland. Down at the coast you get a lot of seafood which is almost mexican style but not even close to being spicy.

When my wife’s aunt was staying with us after my father-in-law passed away I was doing the cooking and she was raving about the food saying I should open a restaurant down in El Salvador since they had nothing like what I was making.

The food is very basic which is ok if it’s your thing. I was hoping for stuff a little more exotic myself.

Ah okay. Willing to give it a try. I’m actually surprised I never have outside of pupusas given there’s a large Salvadorian population around here.

556 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:09:31am

re: #554 wheat-dogghazi

I kinda suspect we Americanize every cuisine coming from abroad, so that people have wrong expectations once they visit those countries. The Chinese food I have here is nothing like what is served in most places in the USA, and that’s a good thing.

Pad Thai is very much Americanized. I love it but it’s Americanized Thai. I do love Americanized Thai though. Usually the food is great and the Thai Iced Tea is a must.

557 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:09:42am
558 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:11:24am

re: #554 wheat-dogghazi

I kinda suspect we Americanize every cuisine coming from abroad, so that people have wrong expectations once they visit those countries. The Chinese food I have here is nothing like what is served in most places in the USA, and that’s a good thing.

Honestly I had never had salvadoran food beyond what my mother-in-law cooked (and honestly I’m not a big fan of her cooking) so I wasn’t too impressed with the food down there. The only thing I will say is there is nothing like fresh chicken (raised on my wife’s grandmother’s ranch) it beat the chicken we get in the store hands down.

As for chinese, where I am in So-cal there are a lot of REAL chinese places vs. the Americanized ones. So fortunately I get to have the real thing and it is so much better than the crap that they claim is chinese.

559 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:12:01am

re: #557 Gus

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Bingo. Ron Paul never gets enough criticism for either writing the shit in that newsletter or cosigning on Lew Rockwell doing it.

560 Ace-o-aces  Sep 9, 2014 9:12:40am

re: #553 HappyWarrior

Who are these five Cubans he’s babbling about anyhow?

en.wikipedia.org

561 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:13:43am

re: #560 Ace-o-aces

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks.

562 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:14:23am

re: #555 HappyWarrior

Ah okay. Willing to give it a try. I’m actually surprised I never have outside of pupusas given there’s a large Salvadorian population around here.

Papusas seem to be the national food. Every day it was “want a papusa?”. I was so sick of them by the end of 2 weeks just the site of one made me wanna hurl. I mean, yeah, they can be tasty but I couldn’t do it every day.

563 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 9:17:12am

We grew poblanos this year, remembering them as nice and mild when cooked up. Mine seem to have been genetic sports—they contaminate even the adjacent chunks of kebobs. On the upside, we discovered Marconi peppers, big flat triangles that are great when stuffed with cheese/sausage mix and roasted on the BBQ. Going to do a lot of those next year.

564 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:17:56am
565 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:19:47am

re: #562 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Papusas seem to be the national food. Every day it was “want a papusa?”. I was so sick of them by the end of 2 weeks just the site of one made me wanna hurl. I mean, yeah, they can be tasty but I couldn’t do it every day.

I prefer a little more variety which is why I loved Spain. Now speaking of dumpling like foods, I love pirohy. Had homemade for lunch on Sunday at the local Slavic festival and on Monday had some Mrs. T’s.

566 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 9:20:00am

re: #549 Flying Squirrel Girl

When I lived in Costa Rica and would visit family and friends in Texas, people found it funny that one of the “must haves” while home was always Mexican food because they think that all Latin American food is the same as Mexican. It’s not, not by a long shot.

“Mexican food” and Mexican food are two different things.

I personally prefer finding interior Mexican restaurants compared to whatever people think is Mexican food. Or I look for small mom & pop joints, since they’re going to be more homestyle and avoid the turbo yellow cheese and sour cream.

567 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:20:23am

re: #564 wrenchwench

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But but men get rejected by women on dates, dontcha know that men are the real victims in our society.//

568 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:22:05am

re: #566 Lidane

“Mexican food” and Mexican food are two different things.

I personally prefer finding interior Mexican restaurants to whatever people think is Mexican food. Or I look for small mom & pop joints, since they’re going to be more homestyle and avoid the turbo yellow cheese and sour cream.

I do that with pretty much any ethnic food. My favorite Afghan place in my hometown has been owned by the same people for years and when we stopped in for the first time in few years, the owner was nice enough to approach my mom and remark about how her boys (my brothers and I) were all grown up now. They make a great kabob but they’re also really good people too.

569 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:22:38am

Lousy airplane wifi. Can’t upding.

570 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:23:35am

re: #566 Lidane

“Mexican food” and Mexican food are two different things.

I personally prefer finding interior Mexican restaurants to whatever people think is Mexican food. Or I look for small mom & pop joints, since they’re going to be more homestyle and avoid the turbo yellow cheese and sour cream.

When my daughter attended Centre College, she took me a couple of times to a little mama y papa joint frequented by the local Spanish-speaking population. The food was great, and cheap.

571 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:24:15am

Except in article Spy, which won’t update.

572 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:24:16am

re: #566 Lidane

“Mexican food” and Mexican food are two different things.

I personally prefer finding interior Mexican restaurants to whatever people think is Mexican food. Or I look for small mom & pop joints, since they’re going to be more homestyle and avoid the turbo yellow cheese and sour cream.

Again, here in so-cal we have a ton of mexican places to choose from. My only gripe is all the good ones are hole-in-the-wall places that are not necessarily to most appealing to go sit down and eat at. Yeah most have an A rating from the health department but they don’t look like they would have one. Still they have some of the best food compared to the fancier places.

573 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:24:33am

re: #569 wrenchwench

Lousy airplane wifi. Can’t upding.

FAA regulations forbid updinging or downdinging while in flight.

574 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 9:24:56am

re: #547 Ace-o-aces

There’s no actual proof that he ever entered Canada so that he could do the return to the US. Just the insinuation that he “crossed the border” with the boat off in the distance and returning to shore.

And if he crossed the border -the security issue flows both ways. Canadians could get hit by ninja sleeper ISIS agents with Ebola laden illegal aliens just as surely as Americans.

But O’Keefe would much rather blame Canada (or Obama), whichever comes first.

575 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 9, 2014 9:26:17am

Time for me to become a sleeper agent — by getting off the computer and into bed. See you all later!

576 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 9:28:43am

re: #551 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are actually going around saying that SEIU union has MOAR MONEYS THEN TEH POOR HELPLESS KOCH BROTHERS HURR HURR

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In Soviet Russia, @YouWorks4Steve

577 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:29:24am

and a couple more on his tl.

578 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 9:29:28am

re: #572 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Again, here in so-cal we have a ton of mexican places to choose from. My only gripe is all the good ones are hole-in-the-wall places that are not necessarily to most appealing to go sit down and eat at. Yeah most have an A rating from the health department but they don’t look like they would have one. Still they have some of the best food compared to the fancier places.

We even get those choices here in Baja Alabama. The best restaurant in town is an Americanized mini-chain that’s just nice and very well run. We also get better food a bit out of town in a place that serves to Central American workers. The give-away is the ladder-trucks parked there at lunch.

579 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:30:42am
580 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:30:50am

re: #577 wrenchwench

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and a couple more on his tl.

He’s the person I admire most in Congress. A genuinely good guy who’s fought a lot of good fights for a long time.

581 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:31:03am

Oooh, finally got into Master Spy!… which won’t update.

Until I posted that!

582 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 9:32:21am

re: #581 wrenchwench

Oooh, finally got into Master Spy!… which won’t update.

First-world catastrophe.

583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:34:22am

re: #578 Decatur Deb

We even get those choices here in Baja Alabama. The best restaurant in town is an Americanized mini-chain that’s just nice and very well run. We also get better food a bit out of town in a place that serves to Central American workers. The give-away is the ladder-trucks parked there at lunch.

My general rule of thumb for eating at ethnic restaurants is: If I see people at the restaurant that are from the same ethnic background I will give the place a try. Now given that there are tons of Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hawaiian and Japanese restaurants in my area I then go by how packed those places get (and by Yelp reviews). There are bad “authentic” restaurants for all types of cuisine so I do what I can to weed them out.

584 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 9:35:22am

Way to go gun-fuckers! Stay out of everybody else’s favorite restaurants.
SMOTI retweeted:

585 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:36:07am

re: #584 Pie-onist Overlord

Way to go gun-fuckers! Stay out of everybody else’s favorite restaurants.
SMOTI retweeted:

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Yeah because “bad guys” were bringing guns to Panera before. Fucking paranoid psychos. And yes Panera is good.

586 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 9:36:08am

re: #582 Decatur Deb

First-world catastrophe.

Working now!

After a week in NC, I feel like I’m returning to something other than first world…

587 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 9:36:16am

Way off topic, but a headline in today’s Daily Express:

Marianne Faithfull says she has no regrets cheating on Mick Jagger with Keith Richards.

Or maybe because it happened so long ago she just doesn’t remember. //

588 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 9:37:05am

re: #583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My general rule of thumb for eating at ethnic restaurants is: If I see people at the restaurant that are from the same ethnic background I will give the place a try. Now given that there are tons of Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hawaiian and Japanese restaurants in my area I then go by how packed those places get (and by Yelp reviews). There are bad “authentic” restaurants for all types of cuisine so I do what I can to weed them out.

Heh. That level of choice only works with BBQ joints here—this is a county of about 100,000 people.

589 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 9:37:08am

re: #583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My general rule of thumb for eating at ethnic restaurants is: If I see people at the restaurant that are from the same ethnic background I will give the place a try. Now given that there are tons of Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hawaiian and Japanese restaurants in my area I then go by how packed those places get (and by Yelp reviews). There are bad “authentic” restaurants for all types of cuisine so I do what I can to weed them out.

Most kosher restaurants suck. The only exceptions are in areas where there is a lot of competition, even then they mostly suck.

In LA they’re pretty good though. Just not too deep in the Valley.

590 ObserverArt  Sep 9, 2014 9:37:57am

Hey all! I was messing around in the kitchen and had ESPN radio on. The NFL is saying they never had the Rice in-elevator video.

“We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including any video that may exist,” the NFL said in a statement. “We spoke to members of the New Jersey State Police and reached out multiple times to the Atlantic City Police Department and the Atlantic County prosecutor’s office. That video was not made available to us and no one in our office saw it until yesterday.”

From article at ESPN: NFL says it was denied video

There is some major butt-covering going on. Pretty amazing TMZ could dig it up, buy it or whatever, and the largest sports business in America didn’t have the means.

591 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 9:38:11am

re: #587 De Kolta Chair

Funny you should mention the Stones, this just came across my TL in twitter:

592 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 9:39:03am

re: #584 Pie-onist Overlord

You can tweet ‘em the incident that happened this morning. A young kid was in a restaurant and accidentally discharged his dad’s gun into the ground. Several people were injured.

The father was a cop.

That’s someone who’s supposed to know proper gun safety and firearms handling procedures. Yet his son managed to discharge the gun. Now imagine the gun nutters who aren’t so trained.

It’s an accident to be sure, but how many accidents does it take for people to realize that carrying around that totem isn’t going to automagically confer protection from incompetence, stupidity, or just dumb luck.

593 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:39:25am

re: #584 Pie-onist Overlord

Way to go gun-fuckers! Stay out of everybody else’s favorite restaurants.
SMOTI retweeted:

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Yes because when I go to Chipotle, Starbucks or Panera I know I’m always thinking about all the bad guys with guns that might be there.

594 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:39:57am

“OK, let’s go to Starbucks!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

595 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:40:18am

“OK, let’s go to the dentist!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

596 ObserverArt  Sep 9, 2014 9:40:36am

re: #584 Pie-onist Overlord

Way to go gun-fuckers! Stay out of everybody else’s favorite restaurants.
SMOTI retweeted:

[I dont miss Chipotle or Starbucks & I won’t miss Panera now. NOT goin where only bad guys have guns.]

This shows the power of the NRA and their PR/Marketing. Bad guys with guns/good guys with guns is now in the American lexicon.

597 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 9:40:44am

re: #589 Pie-onist Overlord

Teaneck has a pretty decent selection of kosher restaurants. They have a well regarded steakhouse, Asian vegetarian, and even a new sports bar. The deli is okay, but not nearly as good as those I remember from Brooklyn (even the ones that are still around aren’t nearly as good and aren’t doing in house smoking of pastrami and instead rely on Meal Mart for their meats).

598 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 9:40:55am

re: #594 Gus

“OK, let’s go to Starbucks!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

“Let’s go to Chipotle!”

“No, assholes won’t let me bring my gun!”

Sounds stupid both ways.

599 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 9:41:20am

re: #593 Gus

There’s always a bad guy hiding behind a chai latte.

Because who the heck would order a chai latte?? //////

600 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:41:47am

re: #595 Gus

“OK, let’s go to the dentist!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

I’m sure some of them bring a gun when they take a dump. You never know who’s going to get you there.

601 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:42:43am

Really if you feel so insecure that you need to bring a gun with you for a 20 minute in and out meal? I really do feel bad for you and question your state of mind.

602 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:43:03am

re: #599 lawhawk

There’s always a bad guy hiding behind a chai latte.

Because who the heck would order a chai latte?? //////

Starbucks is a well known hangout for Mexican “cartel members, gang bangers and Islamic radicals.” Fact,

603 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:43:24am

re: #602 Gus

Starbucks is a well known hangout for Mexican “cartel members, gang bangers and Islamic radicals.” Fact,

And “ginger Jihadists.”

604 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 9:44:23am

I should be able to bring my gun into the swimming pool.//

605 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 9:45:05am

re: #603 Gus

And “ginger Jihadists.”

ChuckCJohnson?

606 ObserverArt  Sep 9, 2014 9:45:31am

re: #594 Gus

“OK, let’s go to Starbucks!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

re: #595 Gus

“OK, let’s go to the dentist!”

“Wait, let me get my gun.”

Your just not ‘mericun ‘nuff Gus. Good ‘mericuns have their guns at the ready at all times. It’s how the West was won. Or something.

How do I know? I’m not a good ‘nuff ‘mericun either. I gots no guns.

607 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 9:45:46am

re: #602 Gus

Starbucks is a well known hangout for Mexican “cartel members, gang bangers and Islamic radicals.” Fact,

And you can never know when that damned white whale will show up.

608 Franklin  Sep 9, 2014 9:47:22am

If you are on a Mac or iPhone and are so inclined, the #AppleLive event just went live:

apple.com

609 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 9:49:18am

Wow:

And here’s how the photo was made:

Youtube Video

610 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:50:48am
611 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2014 9:52:20am

T minus 8 minutes. :)

612 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:52:39am
613 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 9:53:26am

How is this a SHOCK VIDEO? Don’t they all pull out assault weapons during sermons?
//

614 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 9, 2014 9:54:51am

re: #613 Pie-onist Overlord

So it’s patriotic and perfectly fine to walk around Target with an AK-47 but it’s a shock for an Imam to pull one out?

615 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 9:55:24am

re: #614 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So it’s patriotic and perfectly fine to walk around Target with an AK-47 but it’s a shock for an Imam to pull one out?

Maybe he shouted HEY I’M GOIN’ TO DISNEYLAND!

616 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:55:36am

REPORT…

SHOCK VIDEO…

617 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:56:38am

Radical Imam in Gaza pulls out assault rifle during sermon. Shocking!

618 Ace-o-aces  Sep 9, 2014 9:57:11am

re: #613 Pie-onist Overlord

619 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 9:57:13am

re: #616 Gus

REPORT…

SHOCK VIDEO…

Chuck’s IQ has already gotten to 110 in anticipation.

620 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 9:57:24am
621 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 9:58:36am

SHOCK VIDEO

622 Teukka  Sep 9, 2014 10:01:22am

<sarc> I don’t see it, an Imam open carrying in a Mosque, what is the problem with that? </sarc>

It’s not like some gun nuts haven’t open carried in church already.

623 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:01:30am

re: #613 Pie-onist Overlord

Related:

Pat Robertson: ‘Blessed are the fully armed’ in church, ‘theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven’

“What is the new Beatitude? Blessed are the fully armed for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven,” the CBN host laughed. “I really believe that if the bad guys understand that the citizenry are able to react against them then they won’t be as free to go into a crowded mall or a school or a church and start blowing people out.”

“I do believe that that if people are trained with firearms, and they’re able to protect themselves, I don’t think it will lead to more violence, it will lead to less,” he continued. “The idea of having citizens who are trained or to have off-duty police in your church is not a bad thing.”

624 Kragar  Sep 9, 2014 10:02:55am

re: #623 Lidane

Related:

Pat Robertson: ‘Blessed are the fully armed’ in church, ‘theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven’

So much for that “Meek will inherit the Earth/Blessed are the Peacemakers” drivel
///

625 Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2014 10:03:18am

re: #568 HappyWarrior

I do that with pretty much any ethnic food. My favorite Afghan place in my hometown has been owned by the same people for years and when we stopped in for the first time in few years, the owner was nice enough to approach my mom and remark about how her boys (my brothers and I) were all grown up now. They make a great kabob but they’re also really good people too.

There’s a Persian restaurant in Berlin’s Kreuzberg district that I was introduced to by an Afghani friend of mine; he said it was the best damned restaurant in the city.

safran-restaurant.de

Reviews: plus.google.com

626 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 10:04:54am

re: #579 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

What utter bullshit:

Police departments Militarizing to deal with returning vets with PTSD

That is bullshit. How ‘bout we spend that money getting them help? Treating them and helping them get back into society. Taking care of their problem that you fucking bureaucrats sent them to develop.

627 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:05:05am

re: #622 Teukka

<sarc> I don’t see it, an Imam open carrying in a Mosque, what is the problem with that? </sarc>

It’s not like some gun nuts haven’t open carried in church already.

What I don’t get is that everybody knows Gaza is full of extremists. In fact, Hoft’s audience thinks they’re all extremists there. So how does this count as news, coming from Hoft? (Well, I do actually get why he posts this, that’s a rhetorical question.)

628 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 10:05:35am

re: #623 Lidane

Related:

Pat Robertson: ‘Blessed are the fully armed’ in church, ‘theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven’

“But I say, do resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, bust a cap on his ass.”
Nugent 5: 38-39

629 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 10:06:50am

How is it Obama’s fault that corporations don’t want to pay their employees a living wage?
Bryan you suck so hard. Jesus would kick your ass after lighting a desk on fire & throwing it off the mount.

630 Flounder  Sep 9, 2014 10:07:28am

re: #604 HappyWarrior

I should be able to bring my gun into the swimming pool.//

“No Inflatables, BANG!”

631 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:08:37am

re: #629 Pie-onist Overlord

No, J would have simply exorcised whatever unclean spirit currently inhabiting Bryan.

632 Teukka  Sep 9, 2014 10:09:20am

re: #631 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No, J would have simply exorcised whatever unclean spirit currently inhabiting Bryan.

With extreme prejudice.

633 Gus  Sep 9, 2014 10:10:26am
634 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:11:28am

re: #632 Teukka

With extreme prejudice.

And the spirit would’ve been like, “Oh, thx, Big J, I think I’m better off in this pig than in that jerk.”.

635 Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2014 10:12:28am

re: #634 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And the spirit would’ve been like, “Oh, thx, Big J, I think I’m better off in this pig than in that jerk.”.

Parable of the Gadarene Derp.

636 Teukka  Sep 9, 2014 10:12:31am

re: #634 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And the spirit would’ve been like, “Oh, thx, Big J, I think I’m better off in this pig than in that jerk.”.

Indeed.

637 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 10:13:29am

re: #613 Pie-onist Overlord

How is this a SHOCK VIDEO? Don’t they all pull out assault weapons during sermons?
//

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Did he then say, “I kill people. All people.”?

638 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:13:55am

re: #624 Kragar

So much for that “Meek will inherit the Earth/Blessed are the Peacemakers” drivel
///

Apparently, Pat thinks that the Book of Armaments is real.

639 Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2014 10:14:29am

re: #617 Gus

Radical Imam in Gaza pulls out assault rifle during sermon. Shocking!

He was probably going to Starbucks after sermon.

640 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:17:09am

This is happening on Twitter at the moment:

641 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 10:18:01am

There are so many super-crazy women on TCOT which one is TEH MOAST CRAZIE Take a poll.

Vote for SWOTT
1. Janie Johnson @jjauthor
2. Franci @LadySandersFarm
3. Amy Mek @AmyMek
4. Prudence @dennygirltwo
5. Spread Butter @spreadbutter
6. di kele @pudingtane
7. Anna Maria Perez @A_M_Perez

There are some other but I blocked them.

642 Dr. Matt  Sep 9, 2014 10:18:53am

Jimmy thinks he’s a journalist now….

643 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:19:20am

re: #641 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m convinced they’re all bots. Or they’re actually men posting as women just because they’re bored/sad/desperate.

644 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 10:19:28am

I’m voting for Janie for SWOTT because she TWEETS TEH MOAST SPAM but Spread Butter, Franci, & Amy Mek are more psycho.

645 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:20:48am

re: #640 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, for one, the gospel authors weren’t witnesses, they were later authors who were free to edit and invent stories, so that would depend on each individual author. But they do write about various women playing a role, so why not.

646 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 10:21:05am

Apple added the word ‘plus’ to their iPhone (that’s worth an extra $200 right there). Their live feed can’t handle the traffic, so we’ve got frozen screens all around the office (and by screens I mean 8’ screens that drop down from the ceiling).

647 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 9, 2014 10:21:36am

re: #643 Lidane

I’m convinced they’re all bots. Or they’re actually men posting as women just because they’re bored/sad/desperate.

I thought Janie was a bot but she actually replied to my Tweets before she called me a COMMUNIST!!!!! & blocked me.

Anna Maria might be a guy, she post a bunch of gun-fucking crap.

There’s one called “Anti Feminist” which I did not include because I’m pretty sure it’s a dude.

648 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:22:09am
649 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:23:35am
650 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 10:27:27am

Spaghetti lunch vs. White dress shirt.

Spaghetti lunch wins

651 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:27:27am
652 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:27:57am

re: #650 Bulworth

Spaghetti lunch vs. White dress shirt.

Spaghetti lunch wins

Every. Time.

653 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:28:54am

re: #651 Backwoods_Sleuth

> phones on Twitter

Wazzat about?

654 Flounder  Sep 9, 2014 10:29:21am

re: #650 Bulworth

Just take your shirt off, go on, let me take mine off…

655 Ace-o-aces  Sep 9, 2014 10:29:25am

re: #650 Bulworth

Spaghetti lunch vs. White dress shirt.

Spaghetti lunch wins

Been there. Was once accused of having blood on my shirt when is was really Spaghetti sauce.

656 Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2014 10:31:32am

re: #650 Bulworth

Spaghetti lunch vs. White dress shirt.

Spaghetti lunch wins

Spaghetti lunch always wins.

That’s why you take off your dress shirt before you eat spaghetti and eat your spaghetti lunch in your tank top that you’re wearing underneath.

Old School style.

657 wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2014 10:32:12am
658 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:32:58am
659 Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2014 10:33:19am

re: #649 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL, my cats will run and hide as soon as they see a cat carrier.

660 Dr. Matt  Sep 9, 2014 10:33:59am

re: #656 Dr Lizardo

Spaghetti lunch always wins.

Not always…..

Tony Manero FTW:

Tony 1 - Spag Dinner 0

661 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 10:34:01am

re:
#656

I just wasn’t prepared for spaghetti lunch today, but I went ahead with it anyway.

662 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:37:45am

Meanwhile in Iowa:

kwwl.com

MAQUOKETA (KWWL) -

A county supervisor was apparently injured in a reported courthouse shooting in Maquoketa on Tuesday.

Jackson County Supervisor Larry “Buck” Koos was apparently brought to the Jackson County Regional Health Center with non-life-threatening injuries, according to the Dubuque Telegraph-Herald.

The Telegraph-Herald is also reporting that another “unresponsive and visibly-injured man” was found lying on the ground holding a gun at the Jackson County Courthouse, where the alleged shooting incident occurred.

663 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 9, 2014 10:40:14am

Meanwhile I have just gotten my hands onto On the Historicity of Jesus. Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt, the first ever peer-reviewed academic Jesus-skeptical study. 99% of those books are pure kookery, and the authors are usually crackpots, but this one is from an authoritative university publisher and I confess liking some of the author’s previous work. In fact, his previous work on Jesus in Josephus has already moved me in the direction of agnosticism, even if I still think that a Jewish apocalyptic preacher named Jesus still explains the facts (slightly) better than him being an invention from scratch.

664 klys  Sep 9, 2014 10:41:35am

People are still trying to watch the Apple event, apparently.

665 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 10:42:46am

re: #441 FemNaziBitch

This article highlighted DV in more affluent demographics

I read an article some time ago about upper middle class women (who were doctors, lawyers, etc.), who lived in the best neighborhoods and everyone in the neighborhood thought them the perfect couples. These women were victims of domestic violence and when through the exact same psychological issues that poor women of DV go through: being told they were worthless, no one would ever love them, etc., etc.

Domestic violence is not something only those people suffer. This is across all socioeconomic scales.

666 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 10:43:12am

The IPhone 6, i.e. “The bi-annual pilfering of your pocket.”

667 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:44:25am

Ezra made a funny…

668 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 10:44:55am

re: #657 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

“Mr. Mayor, how is your city?”

669 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:45:28am

re: #648 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’s why I prefer Android. I don’t want to pay the Douchebag Premium.

670 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:46:03am
671 makeitstop  Sep 9, 2014 10:48:08am

re: #669 Lidane

And that’s why I prefer Android. I don’t want to pay the Douchebag Premium.

My wife and I both just got Nokia 1020s. Nice phone.

They’re Windows phones - and you can say what you will about Win 7 on laptops or desktops, but that system kicks butt on a phone. Something definitely got lost in the translation from phone to computer.

672 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 10:48:40am
673 Petero1818  Sep 9, 2014 10:49:08am

Breaking: Apple just invented NFC!

674 De Kolta Chair  Sep 9, 2014 10:49:24am

re: #650 Bulworth

Spaghetti lunch vs. White dress shirt.

Spaghetti lunch wins

675 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 10:50:05am

re: #672 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Biting tongue.

676 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 10:51:30am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Two pathetic old racist relics of the 60’s those two who should have lost any credibility long ago but still because this shit sells to right wingers are still very relevant in 2014 America.

Thankfully, these folks are a dying breed. Both literally and figuratively.

Not to say that racists (or homophobes) will ever be eliminated, for they won’t, but they become fewer and fewer (and louder and louder) as the years go on.

Misogyny, I think, is a tougher nut to crack. Slut shaming, victim blaming, etc., is so ingrained that people often don’t realize that they are doing it. Like automatically saying that Rice’s wife was solely after his money, without knowing her upbringing, mental state, etc. She could be one of those women who actively seek out beatings and initiates violence because that is the only way she understands “love”. I knew a woman like that. Her mother raised her telling her repeatedly (in mom’s drunken stupors) that she was worthless, no one would ever love her, etc., as mom was beating her. She went into every single relationship initiating violence. It was the only thing she knew…the only way she understood “love”.

This, btw, is not victim blaming…it is recognizing mental illness. Conditioned mental illness. A lifetime of abuse for people who know nothing else.

677 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:51:37am

re: #671 makeitstop

My wife and I both just got Nokia 1020s. Nice phone.

They’re Windows phones - and you can say what you will about Win 7 on laptops or desktops, but that system kicks butt on a phone. Something definitely got lost in the translation from phone to computer.

I had a Windows phone in grad school, before they bought Skype. The main downside was a very obvious lack of apps.

I liked it because every time I played a game on the phone I got XBox Live gamer points. And achievements. Haha. Plus I liked the layout of the phone. But yeah, you’re right — it wasn’t an OS designed for PCs so when they showed what Win 8 looked like I knew I was going to stick with Win 7. I knew it wouldn’t translate well.

678 Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2014 10:57:13am

re: #667 Backwoods_Sleuth

From what I reading in the UK media (tabloid and regular press) a certain degree of panic seems to be setting in now that it looks like there’s an actual possibility that Scotland may well vote to go independent.

Tomorrow, Cameron, Milliband and Clegg (Tory leader and PM, Labour leader and LibDems leaders respectively) are journeying up to Scotland to plead with the Scots to vote ‘no’ on independence.

I’m detecting a certain whiff of…….desperation.

679 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 10:57:23am

My surprise, etc. —

Georgia GOPer Complains About Early Voting, Excessive Black Voting

The news was flagged by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. In a longwinded email state Sen. Frank Millar (pictured) rants that Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal “appointee Interim CEO Lee May has disappointed those of us that hoped he could help bring the county together.”

Millar goes on to note that DeKalb county happens to include a number of African American mega churches.

“Now we are to have Sunday voting at South DeKalb Mall just prior to the election,” Millar wrote in the email. “Per Jim Galloway of the AJC, this location is dominated by African American shoppers and it is near several large African American mega churches such as New Birth Missionary Baptist. Galloway also points out the Democratic Party thinks this is a wonderful idea - what a surprise. I’m sure Michelle Nunn and Jason Carter are delighted with this blatantly partisan move in DeKalb.”

680 makeitstop  Sep 9, 2014 10:58:13am

re: #677 Lidane

I had a Windows phone in grad school, before they bought Skype. The main downside was a very obvious lack of apps.

I liked it because every time I played a game on the phone I got XBox Live gamer points. And achievements. Haha. Plus I liked the layout of the phone. But yeah, you’re right — it wasn’t an OS designed for PCs so when they showed what Win 8 looked like I knew I was going to stick with Win 7. I knew it wouldn’t translate well.

I must not really be that much of an app guy, because I’ve never installed much on any of my phones. I’ve got TuneIn Radio for music at the gym, a weather radar app for tracking rain, a flashlight app, and that’s pretty much it. I just use whatever comes with the phone as far as GPS and whatnot. :)

681 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2014 10:59:08am

re: #679 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Georgia GOPer Complains About Early Voting, Excessive Black Voting

I guess they just don’t understand the principle that you *want* as many citizens as possible to vote. And therefore should take steps to help them get to the polls, be educated about issues, etc. It is how the whole democracy thing is supposed to work.

682 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 10:59:31am

re: #679 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Georgia GOPer Complains About Early Voting, Excessive Black Voting

Georgia apparently needs more white megachurches…you know, for balance

683 skylarkingtomfoolery  Sep 9, 2014 10:59:32am

re: #629 Pie-onist Overlord

Judging from the graph, sales at US-based stores are outperforming all others. Add innumerate to the long list of Mr. Fisher’s traits.

684 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 11:00:09am

re: #680 makeitstop

At the time I had to install a ton of apps since my degree was in digital media. I had to keep up with the latest and greatest as much as possible. That’s why it was a downside at the time.

These days I only use a handful of apps, so it wouldn’t be that big of a deal now. But I like my Android phone. It does the job and gives me the apps I DO use at a fraction of the Apple pricetag. Works for me.

685 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:00:15am

re: #679 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Georgia GOPer Complains About Early Voting, Excessive Black Voting

But remember the GOP was once progressive on this issue and the Dems weren’t so you can’t complain about this.//

686 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:01:01am

I think its nice to see some actual honesty though on the subject because you know they know they’re fucked if turnout is high.

687 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 11:03:03am

re:
#679

“I have spoken with Representative Jacobs and we will try to eliminate this election law loophole in January. Galloway summed it up, ‘Democrats are showing their hand on how they might boost their numbers.’ For this to be called a ‘non-partisan opportunity’ by Interim CEO is an insult!”

ELECTION LAW LOOPHOLE!!!!!111

688 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:03:05am

Make. It. Stop.

689 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:03:55am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

[Embedded content]

Yeah. Why?

690 Kragar  Sep 9, 2014 11:04:11am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

[Embedded content]

691 Lidane  Sep 9, 2014 11:04:47am

Rick Wiles is an aggressively stupid man:

“The country that’s acting like it’s part of the kingdom of the Antichrist is the United States of America, and Russia is standing against homosexual marriage, they’re standing for traditional family values,” Wiles said. “The United States is exporting its wickedness, we’re using our power and might to force nations to change their laws to accept abortion, to accept homosexual marriage and homosexual rights, so which country is part of the Antichrist system and which is not?”

Wiles further backed up his point by claiming that America has betrayed Israel and “is behind ISIS, it’s the United States government that created ISIS.”

He also repeated his claim that America will soon face a nuclear attack for embracing “rebellion” and “debauchery,” referring to the attack as a “wakeup call” from God.

692 Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2014 11:04:49am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

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I do not for the life of me understand the fascination with a phone watch.

693 Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2014 11:05:32am

re: #689 HappyWarrior

We’ve had those for years here in the Czech Republic. I first recall seeing them in 2008 or so.

Image: jh-cell-phone-watch-064-1.jpg

694 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 11:05:38am

re:
#679

Frank Millar (pictured) rants that Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal “appointee Interim CEO Lee May has disappointed those of us that hoped he could help bring the county together.”

Yeah, bring the county together—away with these election loopholes for blah Democrats!!!111

695 makeitstop  Sep 9, 2014 11:05:58am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

[Embedded content]

You rang?

696 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:06:08am

re: #691 Lidane

Rick Wiles is an aggressively stupid man:

Painfully stupid but what fundie zealot isn’t?

697 lawhawk  Sep 9, 2014 11:06:35am

re: #681 Feline Fearless Leader

Low turnout elections favors incumbents, since they already have the ground game and could bring in votes reliably.

Higher turnout elections means more uncertainty in the outcome. Especially in local elections.

Off-year elections, especially those not held in conjunction with major statewide elections, means that local elected leaders often win with a handful of voters paying attention at all.

Far too many people don’t understand that all elections matter - whether it’s a school board election or a national election for President.

698 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:06:43am

re: #693 Dr Lizardo

We’ve had those for years here in the Czech Republic. I first recall seeing them in 2008 or so.

Image: jh-cell-phone-watch-064-1.jpg

I’ll pass says the man whose watch tells you the tides.

699 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:06:51am

re: #695 makeitstop

You rang?

heh…

:D

700 b.d.  Sep 9, 2014 11:07:01am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

[Embedded content]

The smart watch: A technological marvel that people have already proven that they don’t want.

701 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 11:07:07am

re:
#691

Why does Rick Wiles hate America and Freedom?

702 klys  Sep 9, 2014 11:07:25am
703 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:08:18am

re: #702 klys

[Embedded content]

Yeah, this! Load ALL of your credit card information onto your phone.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

704 Bulworth  Sep 9, 2014 11:08:37am

Election loopholes that allow those people to vote robs me of mah vote!!!!!11

705 klys  Sep 9, 2014 11:09:03am

re: #703 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, this! Load ALL of your credit card information onto your phone.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Nobody ever loses their phone, it’s all good.
/

706 Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2014 11:09:32am

re: #698 HappyWarrior

I’ll pass says the man whose watch tells you the tides.

I guess I don’t see what the big fuss is; plenty of people here have those mobile-phone watches - usually synched up to a Bluetooth earpiece. You can buy them here for around $100 to $150 brand new.

Specs:

Ringtone Type: Polyphonic(64 chords)
Phonebook: 500
Screen: 1.6 inches touchscreen
Call Records: Yes
Card slot: Max 4G microSD (T-Flash)
Internal Memory: 1016.5K
Connectivity: Bluetooth,JAVA
Data Transfer: USB cable / U disc / Bluetooth (voice, stereo)
Messaging: SMS, MMS
Processor: MTK
User Profiles: General, Meeting, Outdoor, Indoor, Headset, Bluetooth
Camera: 1.3 MP single camera
Games: Yes
Battery: 600mah Li-ion battery
Bluetooth, camera, video recorder
Audio player, video playr, sound recorder
mage calendar, calculator
Alarm, tasks, java
Color: White Black.
Mutil-Language interfaces: English, Francais, Espanol, Portugues, Italiano, Deutsch, Norwegian, Dutch, Turkish, Russian, Arabic.

Accessories:

2 X Rechargeable Lithium Battery
1 X USB Cable
1 X Earphone
1 X Power Charger Adapter 110-260 V
1 X Watch Mobile phone User Manual

707 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:09:47am

Needs a better graphic.

708 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 11:10:37am

re: #679 Lidane

re: #697 lawhawk

DeKalb county is majority African American, as are most of their local/ state/ national reps

709 HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2014 11:10:42am

re: #706 Dr Lizardo

I guess I don’t see what the big fuss is; plenty of people here have those mobile-phone watches - usually synched up to a Bluetooth earpiece. You can buy them here for around $100 to $150 brand new.

Specs:

Ringtone Type: Polyphonic(64 chords)
Phonebook: 500
Screen: 1.6 inches touchscreen
Call Records: Yes
Card slot: Max 4G microSD (T-Flash)
Internal Memory: 1016.5K
Connectivity: Bluetooth,JAVA
Data Transfer: USB cable / U disc / Bluetooth (voice, stereo)
Messaging: SMS, MMS
Processor: MTK
User Profiles: General, Meeting, Outdoor, Indoor, Headset, Bluetooth
Camera: 1.3 MP single camera
Games: Yes
Battery: 600mah Li-ion battery
Bluetooth, camera, video recorder
Audio player, video playr, sound recorder
mage calendar, calculator
Alarm, tasks, java
Color: White Black.
Mutil-Language interfaces: English, Francais, Espanol, Portugues, Italiano, Deutsch, Norwegian, Dutch, Turkish, Russian, Arabic.

Accessories:

2 X Rechargeable Lithium Battery
1 X USB Cable
1 X Earphone
1 X Power Charger Adapter 110-260 V
1 X Watch Mobile phone User Manual

Oh I don’t mind. Just seems like overkill to me. Don’t mind me.

710 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2014 11:12:34am

For those interested in things Muslim, Somali and culturally diverse.. A Page about St Pauls first female Somali police officer. Fascinating lady.

711 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:14:30am

A marriage of edgy technology with old school…

712 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2014 11:15:46am

re: #692 Targetpractice

Retro-
Dick Tracy

713 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:17:11am
714 sattv4u2  Sep 9, 2014 11:17:24am

re: #712 Rightwingconspirator

Retro-
Dick Tracy

[Embedded image]

An even earlier model

Image: 34389.jpg

715 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:18:57am

It can be SUPERSIZED!!!!

716 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 11:20:09am

re: #589 Pie-onist Overlord

Most kosher restaurants suck. The only exceptions are in areas where there is a lot of competition, even then they mostly suck.

In LA they’re pretty good though. Just not too deep in the Valley.

The Beldon in Chicago is pretty awesome. Best kreplach around (at about 4” across, too). Kishke is pretty good, as well. Not too many places make good kishke.

Man, I want to go home now.

717 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:20:17am

re: #712 Rightwingconspirator

Retro-
Dick Tracy

[Embedded image]

718 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 11:21:09am

But does the iWatch work with Google Glass?

719 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2014 11:21:13am

re: #714 sattv4u2

I think that was after he upgraded to Apple after this older model…

Now with solstice dial!

720 WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2014 11:22:41am

re: #608 Franklin

If you are on a Mac or iPhone and are so inclined, the #AppleLive event just went live:

apple.com

Charming. Only for people using Safari.

721 Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2014 11:28:33am

re: #688 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make. It. Stop.

[Embedded content]

Oh Wow! I want four so I can wear them on both arms and legs.

Edit: Wait, they come in two sizes? I gotta get eight then.

722 Kragar  Sep 9, 2014 11:29:16am

re: #721 Skip Intro

Oh Wow! I want four so I can wear them on both arms and legs.

I’ll be needing 5…

723 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 9, 2014 11:34:12am

re: #689 HappyWarrior

Yeah. Why?

Because there are android watches and they sell well enough.

Dick Tracy!

724 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 9, 2014 11:35:43am

So this watch has a feature that lets you send your heartbeat to others? I guess that could really revolutionize the passive-aggressive suicide note.

725 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:36:07am

As George Takei would say: oh, my…

726 ObserverArt  Sep 9, 2014 11:36:47am

re: #671 makeitstop

My wife and I both just got Nokia 1020s. Nice phone.

They’re Windows phones - and you can say what you will about Win 7 on laptops or desktops, but that system kicks butt on a phone. Something definitely got lost in the translation from phone to computer.

I have a Windoze phone too. I do think your’s is a Windows 8 though. Mine is an HTC…and was free with ATT just about a year ago.

I like mine too. But since I am old school, I use it mainly for a phone. Some internet, some maps. Maybe a picture or two, and that’s about it. I also don’t walk around with my face buried in it.

727 makeitstop  Sep 9, 2014 11:42:36am

re: #726 ObserverArt

I have a Windoze phone too. I do think your’s is a Windows 8 though. Mine is an HTC…and was free with ATT just about a year ago.

I like mine too. But since I am old school, I use it mainly for a phone. Some internet, some maps. Maybe a picture or two, and that’s about it. I also don’t walk around with my face buried in it.

Yes, Win 8. Once again I type without looking…

I had an HTC Titan before this one, which I really liked. But it had the earlier version of Win 8, and a lot of the features weren’t available (like Cortana, which I’m really growing to like a lot).

I do take a lot of pics, and I have the old Facebook app installed to send one up if I want. But I’m like you in that I mostly use the phone as a phone, along with maps/GPS for driving and radio for the gym.

728 Kragar  Sep 9, 2014 11:43:25am
729 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 9, 2014 11:43:26am

re: #192 BongCrodny

Not a physics major, so I may have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about here, but wouldn’t it be kind of dumb move to fire a gun in an elevator?

On a visit to some of my federal pre-trial shut-ins in a mid-western county jail, I noticed some dings in the stainless steel walls and ceiling of the jail elevator.

The jailer told me that someone, some-how had smuggled a gun inside the elevator, and a fight involving the gun took place in the elevator.

730 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 11:43:35am

re: #719 Rightwingconspirator

I think that was after he upgraded to Apple after this older model…
[Embedded image]

Now with solstice dial!

I used to have a sundial watch…loved that thing. Worked like crap at night but was great in the daytime, as long as I remembered to face north.

731 A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2014 11:44:05am

re: #682 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh that’s alright Mister Asshole State Senator, Cobb County, on the other side of the metro will more than make up for those awful, terrible, partisan voters in DeKalb.

God I wish I could move the hell out of here. Sigh.

732 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:45:36am

re: #728 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Todd needs to keep his fantasy sex life to himself…

733 Jenner7  Sep 9, 2014 11:46:38am

re: #467 Jenner7

I just realized how insensitive it was to say “I just wanna shake some sense into her”. My apologies. But I think most here would understand what I was trying to say.

734 Kragar  Sep 9, 2014 11:46:48am

re: #732 Backwoods_Sleuth

Todd needs to keep his fantasy sex life to himself…

I’m sure Todd has conducted a lot of first hand research into the subject

735 darthstar  Sep 9, 2014 11:48:40am
736 ObserverArt  Sep 9, 2014 11:49:57am

Oops…quote by accident!

737 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2014 11:52:14am

Meanwhile, today in Arkansas…hahahahahaaa!
Really, click on the link in the tweet…too funny.

738 A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2014 11:53:40am

re: #733 Jenner7

Aww, you THOUGHT about it though, that’s a good thing. Most people don’t even realize how many of our common sayings are violent in nature. Or about how much violence and bullying have become part of our entertainment, or a whole host of other things.

It starts to get better one person at a time. And talking about this stuff, civilly without defending the abuse. It’s slow going, but I think we can get to a much better place if we just don’t let the conversations get derailed and we don’t get complacent about it. Janay Rice isn’t the only woman out there dealing with this by a long shot. Thousands of women, men and little kids are living in fear today, thinking no one cares. Those people need help too. Lots of it.

739 A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2014 11:55:34am

re: #737 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bwahahaha, that’s hilarious. But also, really? People are that stupid? I hope the person who called that in feels like an idiot.

740 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 9, 2014 12:23:17pm

re: #408 darthstar

Ketchup is a vegetable (thank you Ronald Reagan)

And prior to Reagan:

Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893),[1] was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that, under U.S. customs regulations, the tomato should be classified as a vegetable rather than a fruit.

en.wikipedia.org

741 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 9, 2014 12:24:53pm

re: #414 sattv4u2

Not to cast aspersions, but perhaps his $40 million contract also has a tad to do with it

Only $25M is guaranteed.

742 Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2014 12:25:36pm

re: #728 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Great for Starnes then. He can now marry his dog.

743 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2014 2:20:35pm

re: #590 ObserverArt

Hey all! I was messing around in the kitchen and had ESPN radio on. The NFL is saying they never had the Rice in-elevator video.

From article at ESPN: NFL says it was denied video

There is some major butt-covering going on. Pretty amazing TMZ could dig it up, buy it or whatever, and the largest sports business in America didn’t have the means.

Pffft. NFL? -They can’t even find Los Angeles on a map!


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