John McCain and James O’Keefe, Together at Last, Fear-Mongering About ISIS

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The screaming headline at right wing propaganda outlet Washington Free Beacon is just the beginning of the misleading idiocy in this article: U.S. Confirms ISIL Planning Infiltration of U.S. Southern Border.

Really? Infiltration of the US border with Mexico by ISIS is actually in the planning stages?

Well, uh… no, not really. Here’s what was actually said today at the Senate hearing to which the Free Beacon is referring:

Francis Taylor, under secretary for intelligence and analysis at DHS, told senators during a hearing that ISIL supporters are known to be plotting ways to infiltrate the United States through the border.

“There have been Twitter, social media exchanges among ISIL adherents across the globe speaking about that as a possibility,” Taylor told Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) in response to a question about “recent reports on Twitter and Facebook of messages that would urge infiltration into the U.S. across our southwestern border.”

Oh. So “planning” is a ridiculous fear-mongering overstatement; what Taylor actually said is that DHS has intercepted some communications in which ISIS members talked about it “as a possibility.” That’s a long way from being a plan.

But it gets even more ludicrous, because Sen. John McCain then cited… wait for it… James O’Keefe and his recent stunt crossing the border in a cheap Osama bin Laden costume as “evidence” that the border isn’t secure. Oh, my aching head.

James O’Keefe in his ridiculous bin Laden costume

“I’m satisfied we have the intelligence and the capability on our border that would prevent that activity,” Taylor said.

However, McCain was dubious, referring to recent videos released by activist James O’Keefe showing him crossing the border while wearing an Osama bin Laden mask.

Asked by McCain why agents did not stop O’Keefe, Taylor could not provide an answer.

“You can’t answer it because they weren’t there to stop him,” McCain responded.

John McCain and wingnut laughingstock James O’Keefe, together at last. Good grief.

And by the way, if you go to the Senate website for this hearing and download the full statement of Under Secretary Taylor, you’ll find that he actually said this:

At present, DHS is unaware of any specific, credible threat to the U.S. Homeland from ISIL.

(h/t: @PaulSzoldra.)

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390 comments
1 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 1:26:19pm

Shorter McCain

2 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 1:27:33pm

[McCain] ISIL MIGHT BE ENCAMPED IN ONE OF MY 7 HOUSES AT THIS VERY MINUTE [/McCain]

3 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 1:28:23pm
4 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 1:31:03pm
5 nines09  Sep 10, 2014 1:31:16pm

The Beclowning continues, or is that the Rebranding?

7 Lidane  Sep 10, 2014 1:34:37pm

8 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 1:35:13pm
9 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 1:35:37pm

Couldn’t resist.

10 Feline Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 1:35:49pm

It would be far easier for ISIS to sneak across the 1000s of miles of undefended and unwatched Canadian border, but that never seems to come up.

11 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 1:37:35pm

Reposted from downstairs because, as usual, I managed to catch the ass-end of the thread just as Charles created a new one. It’s more relevant here.

A must read for anyone who cares about going beyond all the fear & war mongering rhetoric: An English translation of the book referenced in the article below, The Management Of Savagery, can be found here (PDF). I haven’t reead it all yet as it’s 268 pages:

12 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 1:37:35pm

re: #10 Feline Overlord

It would be far easier for ISIS to sneak across the 1000s of miles of undefended and unwatched Canadian border, but that never seems to come up.

Not to mention the lightly guarded coast lines.

13 Bulworth  Sep 10, 2014 1:37:36pm

Next: “Gateway Pundit reporter confronts Michael Brown family lawyers about reports confirming ISIS is pouring over the Mexican border…”

EXCLUSIVE!!!!1

14 Bulworth  Sep 10, 2014 1:38:34pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

Couldn’t resist.

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Wingnut-media is pretty worried about a potential Hillary candidacy.

15 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:39:44pm

Reposted from downstairs, since everybody else left…

Last year sometime I opined that there’s something about decapitation that affects people more than other methods of death. Something about it seems to go right to the amygdala and get people wanting to go off on a crusade to kill those who do it. Watch a guy get shot, and people get angry. Watch a guy get beheaded, and they go berserk.

This is what ISIS hopes, IMO, and why they did it, and filmed it. And sure enough, the folks who were mildly upset by reading of mass killings of Iraqi troops and police went apeshit when they heard about and/or saw a couple Americans decapitated.

17 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:40:27pm

re: #14 Bulworth

Wingnut-media is pretty worried about a potential Hillary candidacy.

They can read polls, even if they don’t want to believe them.

18 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 1:40:27pm

ISIL may be insanely brutal, like some kind of fucked up bogey man from a Brother’s Grimm tale, but they aren’t that stupid. Their motivations are fundamentally different from Al Qaeda. ISIL want’s to be an actual government, and not in the esoteric “let’s overthrow the American compromised Saudi royal family one day and rule the holy land,” but in the immediate here and now, controlling Syria and Iraq. They want some level of legitimacy.

And while they were / are dumb enough to think that killing American hostages captured in Syria can effect some kind of deterrent effect against US intervention, I very much doubt they’re delusional enough to think we’d allow them to strike within our borders without scraping them off the face of the Earth.

19 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 1:41:01pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

Couldn’t resist.

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Hey—Chuck said he paid big bucks for his Hillary SCOOPZ (probably of other people’s money, but still…)

20 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 1:44:36pm

Chuck C in a different time would have been one of those people that bought pieces of the real cross.
#9
Bubblehead II

IT WAS COSTLY TO GET!!!!

21 A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2014 1:44:37pm

What a bunch of freaking scared spoiled brats. Holy crap. I’m “just a girl” and you know what scares the hell out of me? Groups of frightened white people with guns amped up on fear, racism and xenophobia. Everything else kinda pales in comparison. (pun intended)

This country will never be torn apart by outside forces, it will be torn apart from within. As we see. Nice job wingnuts. Good going. Here’s a fucking happy face for your potty chart. Nitwits.

And when ISIS doesn’t kill us all in our sleep and then make the whole country into a caliphate, who will they be scared of then. The only people I see profiting off of this are the gun and ammo makers and the companies that make adult diapers. We’re gonna need bigger landfills for all that shit.

22 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 1:45:32pm

re: #14 Bulworth

Wingnut-media is pretty worried about a potential Hillary candidacy.

Well given what they have to offer in terms of candidates in 16 is it any wonder they are worried?

23 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 1:45:50pm

Assuming O’Keeffe or a proxy actually did what they claim, weren’t a few US or Mexican border-entry laws broken?

24 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:47:02pm

re: #22 Bubblehead II

Well given what they have to offer in terms of candidates in 16 is it any wonder they are worried?

Yeah, I mean for cripes sake, they’re talking about Mitt Romney again.

25 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 1:48:14pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Speaking of beheading, I found this article from last Friday pretty interesting:

Are beheadings terrorism? Palmira Silva was the third woman to be decapitated in London this year

[…]

If you want to talk about politicising a tragedy, let’s talk about the death of Palmira Silva. Why did her death make the front pages, when Judith Nibbs and Tahira Ahmed did not?

Because she was not allegedly killed by an ex-partner or family member, which is “normal”.

Because her death seems to be random - it could have happened to anyone, even a man.

Because terrorism is real when it’s Islamists against the west, but violence against women is just the background hum of our lives.

This year, in the city where I live, in twenty-first century Britain with its smartphones and coalition government and internet commenters telling me that feminism has gone too far, three women have been beheaded.

26 stpaulbear  Sep 10, 2014 1:48:15pm

Hasn’t O’Keefe violated his probation, like, 97 times? Why isn’t he in jail.

27 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 1:49:03pm
28 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:49:26pm

I wonder if he realizes just how silly and desperate it makes him look to keep promising that he’s going to drop a BOMBSHELL!!!!! REAL SOON!!!!!!, and it’s REALLY BIG!!!!, ANY MINUTE NOW!!!!!

29 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 1:49:38pm
30 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 1:50:34pm

Afternoon Lizardim.

31 A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2014 1:50:40pm

re: #27 b.d.

Someone should keep tweeting that picture to him over and over. Asshole.

32 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 1:50:50pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Hey—Chuck said he paid big bucks for his Hillary SCOOPZ (probably of other people’s money, but still…)

The same guy who was begging for a donated bunk in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago?

33 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:51:04pm

re: #29 Bubblehead II

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No, it wasn’t that. It was the things he had to do…. Terrible, unseemly things…. Best not to ask…
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34 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 1:51:11pm

re: #28 GeneJockey

I wonder if he realizes just how silly and desperate it makes him look to keep promising that he’s going to drop a BOMBSHELL!!!!! REAL SOON!!!!!!, and it’s REALLY BIG!!!!, ANY MINUTE NOW!!!!!

He’s been saying that for a while and every single “bombshell” turns out to be a dud. At this point, I wouldn’t believe him if he said the sky was blue.

35 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 1:51:29pm

re: #32 allegro

The same guy who was begging for a donated bunk in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago?

Now you know what he spent all his money on.

36 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 1:51:46pm

re: #33 GeneJockey

No, it wasn’t that. It was the things he had to do…. Terrible, unseemly things…. Best not to ask…
//

Were any animals harmed in the making of this scoop?

37 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:52:07pm

re: #35 thedopefishlives

Now you know what he spent all his money on.

Toebone of John the Baptist?

38 danarchy  Sep 10, 2014 1:52:35pm

re: #27 b.d.

John, you told us to come and visit you anytime.

I’ve seen this picture posted here a few times. Are those guys actually members of ISIS?

39 stpaulbear  Sep 10, 2014 1:52:40pm

re: #20 b.d.

Chuck C in a different time would have been one of those people that bought pieces of the real cross.
#9
Bubblehead II

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IT WAS COSTLY TO GET!!!!

He’s doing so much research he’s going to wind up with carpal tunnel syndrone!

40 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 1:53:04pm

Steller: Cross-border terrorism isn’t the realistic threat

[…]

Still, the attraction of combining fears of the border and of terrorism is clear. A significant number of people who try to cross the border illegally from Mexico make it across, even now. Therefore, foreign terrorists who want to hurt the United States could try to get smuggled across to achieve their aims.

The concern goes back, at least, to 1986. An Arizona Daily Star story that year said Cochise County Attorney Alan Polley told a U.S. Senate subcommittee that local officials needed help preventing cross-border terrorism. An FBI official told the same panel there was no significant threat of terrorism at the border.

[…]

Look at the long list of people convicted in the United States of terrorism-related crimes, and what you’ll find is a bunch of American citizens, legal residents or people who arrived on valid visas, not illegal crossers. The Federation of American Scientists has collected the Justice Department’s list of terrorism convictions for years, but only has obtained the convictions through 2011 so far.

[…]

The sad truth is, if foreign terrorist groups want to find someone to attack the United States, there are enough U.S. citizens and legal visitors willing to help them out.

Here’s how University of Texas-El Paso political science professor Gaspare Genna, an expert in North American relations, put it: “It would just be easier for (Islamic State) to recruit someone who is in the United States to carry on these types of activities than to find someone who can maneuver in U.S. society, bring them to Mexico and pay a smuggler.”

[…]


RTWT.

41 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 1:53:11pm

In fact attacking ISIL is the only thing that would cause them to try and attack us within our borders. Not because it would be a strategically wise move for them to make, but because it would result from the pure desperation of a cornered animal facing its own imminent death.

Not that this is an argument against attacking ISIL, fuck ‘em, but we should understand clearly who they are and what motivates them, and their motivations are distinctly different from Al Qaeda and other terrorist orgs.

42 Petero1818  Sep 10, 2014 1:53:16pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

ISIL may be insanely brutal, like some kind of fucked up bogey man from a Brother’s Grimm tale, but they aren’t that stupid. Their motivations are fundamentally different from Al Qaeda. ISIL want’s to be an actual government, and not in the esoteric “let’s overthrow the Saudis one day and rule the holy land,” but in the immediate here and now, controlling Syria and Iraq. They want some level of legitimacy.

And while they were / are dumb enough to think that killing American hostages captured in Syria can effect some kind of deterrent effect against US intervention, I very much doubt they’re delusional enough to think we’d allow them to strike within our borders without scraping them off the face of the Earth.

In truth, their ideology is expansionist, so whether today or tomorrow, ISIL has our allies in mind (read Israel, Jordan, Egypt). In my opinion executing US journalists was never intended to be a deterrent but to the contrary, to invite engagement. In doing so they gain international rather than regional legitimacy. In fact I believe they will engage pretty soon in attacks on Western interests, likely primarily those that are in the middle east including western businesses operating there, but it is also possible, particularly now that we are engaged, that they will seek to attack the homeland.

43 Lidane  Sep 10, 2014 1:53:28pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

And while they were / are dumb enough to think that killing American hostages captured in Syria can effect some kind of deterrent effect against US intervention, I very much doubt they’re delusional enough to think we’d allow them to strike within our borders without scraping them off the face of the Earth.

This is the same reason why the Mexican drug cartels aren’t afraid to string dead bodies up from overpasses or leave severed heads on the steps of government buildings in Mexico, but they don’t do it here.

44 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 1:54:28pm

re: #37 GeneJockey

Toebone of John the Baptist?

I was thinking more along the lines of a metric ton of bovine fecal matter, but y’know, yours works too.

45 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 1:54:57pm

re: #39 stpaulbear

He’s doing so much research he’s going to wind up with carpal tunnel syndrone!

Or tennis elbow…

46 lockjawcanbefun  Sep 10, 2014 1:55:11pm

re: #20 b.d.</em.

IT WAS COSTLY TO GET!!!!

Multiple trips to the proctologist can be expensive.

47 Dr Lizardo  Sep 10, 2014 1:55:55pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Reposted from downstairs because, as usual, I managed to catch the ass-end of the thread just as Charles created a new one. It’s more relevant here.

A must read for anyone who cares about going beyond all the fear & war mongering rhetoric: An English translation of the book referenced in the article below, The Management Of Savagery, can be found here (PDF). I haven’t reead it all yet as it’s 268 pages:

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I read in that a lot of inspiration from the gift that keeps on giving…..

Sayyid Qutb.

It’s quite the tome, I must say. I’m about halfway through it. It reminds me of reading Lenin or Mao, though granted, with more distinctly religious overtones, but possessing that same cold, rationalist, analytic point of view.

Exceedingly disturbing.

48 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 1:56:21pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Steller: Cross-border terrorism isn’t the realistic threat


RTWT.

And those who did hurt us in Boston and NYC arrived legally. Why risk sunstroke?

49 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 1:56:58pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Assuming O’Keeffe or a proxy actually did what they claim, weren’t a few US or Mexican border-entry laws broken?

I’m pretty sure his escapade was entirely in Texas. There are a number of water channels in the area where he performed that stunt.

50 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 1:57:25pm

re: #42 Petero1818

In truth, their ideology is expansionist, so whether today or tomorrow, ISIL has our allies in mind (read Israel, Jordan, Egypt). In my opinion executing US journalists was never intended to be a deterrent but to the contrary, to invite engagement. In doing so they gain international rather than regional legitimacy. In fact I believe they will engage pretty soon in attacks on Western interests, likely primarily those that are in the middle east including western businesses operating there, but it is also possible, particularly now that we are engaged, that they will seek to attack the homeland.

I agree that they’re expansionist, but not that they think getting us to engage them early helps their cause. Beheading the hostages was a massively counter productive move. They don’t understand the psychology of the West, think they can intimidate everyone through shear brutality. Their operations are all designed around capturing territory and to that end trying to demoralize their opposition.

51 S'latch  Sep 10, 2014 1:57:26pm

ISIS is a concern, but they aren’t near us and if they do attack us, I seriously doubt they would be crossing the border from Mexico.

The Osama Bin Laden mask is hilarious though.

52 A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2014 1:57:34pm

re: #43 Lidane

This is the same reason why the Mexican drug cartels aren’t afraid to string dead bodies up from overpasses or leave severed heads on the steps of government buildings in Mexico, but they don’t do it here.

Well that and we are some of their best customers…

53 ausador  Sep 10, 2014 1:57:57pm
However, McCain was dubious, referring to recent videos released by activist James O’Keefe showing him crossing the border while wearing an Osama bin Laden mask.

Asked by McCain why agents did not stop O’Keefe, Taylor could not provide an answer.

“You can’t answer it because they weren’t there to stop him,” McCain responded.

Breaking: James O’Keefe gunned down in hail of bullets from elite Border Patrol squad while attempting to replicate his earlier Mexican border crossing exploit. The leader of the squad who refused to give his name and was wearing no identifying markings told our reporter “Stopped him that time didn’t we?” before leaving the scene.

54 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 1:58:18pm

After the 9/11 attacks, there was a flood of similar reports that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or whoever was infiltrating across the Mexican border, and we were about to be attacked.

And there was absolutely no truth to any of it. It never happened.

55 Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2014 1:58:57pm
56 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 1:59:27pm

I prefer to use the term ISIL because for me ISIS will always be a splined bottom bracket industry standard.

57 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 2:00:00pm

re: #53 ausador

Breaking: James O’Keefe gunned down in hail of bullets from elite Border Patrol rwnj self-appointed militia squad while attempting to replicate his earlier Mexican border crossing exploit. The leader of the squad who refused to give his name and was wearing no identifying markings told our reporter “Stopped him that time didn’t we?” before leaving the scene.

FTFMy fantasy.

58 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 2:01:37pm

re: #38 danarchy

I’ve seen this picture posted here a few times. Are those guys actually members of ISIS?

votevets.org says yes:

“While he was there (in Syria), he paused for some photos — including some with ISIS militants,” VoteVets chairman Jon Soltz, an Iraq War veteran, wrote in the e-mail that featured the photo. “Today, just over a year later, he wants to fight ISIS in Iraq — ostensibly against the weapons he wants to provide them in Syria.”

McCain claims no:

One of the men with McCain is Gen. Salim Idris, who at the time chief of staff of the Free Syrian Army’s Supreme Military Council. He was removed from the post in February. Another is Mouaz Moustafa, executive director of the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a Washington, D.C.-based group that encourages U.S. intervention on behalf of the moderate opposition and organized McCain’s visit. A third man who had been disputed in the past has since been identified “as one of the brigade commanders for the Free Syrian Army,” McCain said.

He was with the Northern Storm Brigade, a force affiliated with the Free Syrian Army that has battled ISIS, McCain’s office clarified.

azcentral.com

59 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 2:01:59pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

I draw the line at seeing him killed, but I’d agree to seeing him get put in the hospital with gunshot wounds from his militia buddies.

60 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 2:02:11pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

I prefer to use the term ISIL because for me ISIS will always be a splined bottom bracket industry standard.

Specifically, the International Splined Interface Standard!

61 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 2:02:39pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Reposted from downstairs because, as usual, I managed to catch the ass-end of the thread just as Charles created a new one. It’s more relevant here.

A must read for anyone who cares about going beyond all the fear & war mongering rhetoric: An English translation of the book referenced in the article below, The Management Of Savagery, can be found here (PDF). I haven’t reead it all yet as it’s 268 pages:

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I was slummin’ down there with ya’.

62 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 2:03:54pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

After the 9/11 attacks, there was a flood of similar reports that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or whoever was infiltrating across the Mexican border, and we were about to be attacked.

And there was absolutely no truth to any of it. It never happened.

AL QAEDA NAVY!!!!

63 Lidane  Sep 10, 2014 2:04:00pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

It’s an easy rumor to start when you’ve convinced people that the border is more porous than Swiss cheese.

64 nines09  Sep 10, 2014 2:04:15pm

re: #20 b.d.

Only thing Chucky CJ will ever drop is a deuce.

65 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 2:05:47pm

Goodbye Goodell

66 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 2:06:15pm

re: #59 thedopefishlives

I draw the line at seeing him killed, but I’d agree to seeing him get put in the hospital with gunshot wounds from his militia buddies.

You’re assuming O’Keefe was actually anywhere near the actual border when he did his wading stunt?

67 nines09  Sep 10, 2014 2:06:15pm

re: #65 b.d.

SHHHHH!!!

68 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 2:07:29pm

re: #66 Kragar

You’re assuming O’Keefe was actually anywhere near the actual border when he did his wading stunt?

I’d love to see an INS investigator ask him.

69 stpaulbear  Sep 10, 2014 2:08:05pm

re: #53 ausador

Could it possibly be that reason O’Keefe didn’t get stopped by the border patrol is that he had a camera crew, assistants, and vehicles with US plates at the scene while they obviously staged some phony crossing, and the border patrol just though it was for some awful low budget movie rather than an awful low budget explosive expose?

70 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 2:08:16pm

71 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 2:08:40pm

re: #66 Kragar

You’re assuming O’Keefe was actually anywhere near the actual border when he did his wading stunt?

If that was the border then he broke the law. And he is on Federal probation?

72 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 2:08:59pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

After the 9/11 attacks, there was a flood of similar reports that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or whoever was infiltrating across the Mexican border, and we were about to be attacked.

And there was absolutely no truth to any of it. It never happened.

This kind of fear mongering doesn’t die easy either and can result in revisionist histories. The 1976 historical movie Midway presented as “fact” the well established lie that Japanese American saboteurs had attacked infrastructure and installations on Hawaii during the attack on Pearl Harbor. This was 35 years after the events took place.

73 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 2:09:29pm

re: #65 b.d.

Goodbye Goodell

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It seemed I heard a ton of people calling for him to go over the last couple days. If he had any knowledge of that tape he is beyond toast. Maybe a little black char dust with be left.

74 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:11:06pm

McCain again thank you for showing why I did not vote for you for president. I once respected you sir but now you’re more pathetic than Dick Cheney.

75 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 2:11:14pm

re: #69 stpaulbear

Could it possibly be that reason O’Keefe didn’t get stopped by the border patrol is that he had a camera crew, assistants, and vehicles with US plates at the scene while they obviously staged some phony crossing, and the border patrol just though it was for some awful low budget movie rather than an awful low budget explosive expose?

Also, he’s white.

76 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:11:26pm

re: #65 b.d.

Goodbye Goodell

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Adieu Roger.

77 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 2:12:12pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Also, he’s white.

Sort of Burnt Sienna in makeup.

78 Petero1818  Sep 10, 2014 2:12:13pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

I agree that they’re expansionist, but not that they think getting us to engage them early helps their cause. Beheading the hostages was a massively counter productive move. They don’t understand the psychology of the West, think they can intimidate everyone through shear brutality. Their operations are all designed around capturing territory and to that end trying to demoralize their opposition.

I will respectfully disagree. I think they understand the West fine. They want us to engage. I am not saying we shouldn’t. We really have no choice but to engage in some degree. But I strongly believe they know precisely how we react to such provocation. Whether or not they are correct or counter productive is a debatable point in my mind. But I believe they fully intended for us to engage. There is no greater tool for recruitment than our engagement and recruitment will help them achieve their territorial goals as you rightly point out is their primary intent.

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 2:12:21pm

re: #55 Ace-o-aces

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I think putting on his pants was probably optional.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:12:38pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Reposted from downstairs, since everybody else left…

Last year sometime I opined that there’s something about decapitation that affects people more than other methods of death. Something about it seems to go right to the amygdala and get people wanting to go off on a crusade to kill those who do it. Watch a guy get shot, and people get angry. Watch a guy get beheaded, and they go berserk.

This is what ISIS hopes, IMO, and why they did it, and filmed it. And sure enough, the folks who were mildly upset by reading of mass killings of Iraqi troops and police went apeshit when they heard about and/or saw a couple Americans decapitated.

Did you know that the last execution by guillotine occurred on this day 37 years ago?

That’s right it might have even occurred during your lifetime.

81 Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2014 2:12:55pm
82 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:13:07pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Did you know that the last execution by guillotine occurred on this day 37 years ago?

That’s right it might have even occurred during your lifetime.

Not in my lifetime but granted I am young. Knew it was in the 70’s though.

83 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 10, 2014 2:16:53pm

Time to head home and cook.

Odd fact from Wikipedia today is that there is a Saskatchewan separatist party.

en.wikipedia.org

84 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:17:13pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

[Embedded image] The poster child for conservative loser

You see that whale’s head walking stick he’s holding in the top left photo? I have that same walking stick!

I want to beat him with it.

85 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 2:18:13pm
86 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 2:18:19pm

Update on yesterday’s sad story about the man who killed his 5 children and dumped them in trash bags in Alabama. (WARNING: very depressing.)

thestate.com

87 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:18:43pm

re: #39 stpaulbear

He’s doing so much research he’s going to wind up with carpal tunnel syndrone!

Crapal tunnel syndrome.

88 dog philosopher  Sep 10, 2014 2:20:05pm

i long ago heard from morons how they think that muslim extremists should ‘blend in easily’ with mexicans because do i have to say it?

89 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 2:20:28pm
“I’m satisfied we have the intelligence and the capability on our border that would prevent that activity,” Taylor said.

But just to be on the safe side, I bought one of these special anti-ISIS suits.

90 dog philosopher  Sep 10, 2014 2:20:56pm

re: #39 stpaulbear

He’s doing so much research he’s going to wind up with carpal tunnel syndrone!

we have a carpool tunnel right here and they just put in the fourth bore

91 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 2:23:03pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Also, he’s white.

Yup. This one wasn’t.

Border agent cleared in Green Valley shooting

A U.S. Border Patrol agent who shot and killed an unarmed and fleeing suspect in May has been cleared of any wrongdoing by the Pima County Attorney’s Office.

Agent Daniel Marquez shot Jose Luis Arambula, 31, in the back of the head on May 30 as he chased the suspect through a pecan grove near Green Valley.

Though Arambula was unarmed, the suspect twice turned toward the agent and to “punch his hand out as if he were about to shoot a weapon,” Kellie Johnson, chief criminal deputy for the county attorney, wrote in a letter clearing Marquez.

Marquez fired nine times, striking Arambula once, according to earlier reports.

[…]

I was thinking since the guy was running away, if the agent felt threatened, he could stop chasing the guy. Nope. Can’t have that.

92 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 10, 2014 2:24:25pm

re: #33 GeneJockey

No, it wasn’t that. It was the things he had to do…. Terrible, unseemly things…. Best not to ask…
//

93 A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2014 2:30:48pm

re: #81 Ace-o-aces

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

94 makeitstop  Sep 10, 2014 2:33:04pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

I saw it posted on Facebook about a week and a half ago.

95 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 2:33:10pm

re: #65 b.d.

Goodbye Goodell

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Here’s a fun story from last year, about Goodell’s father — a super-liberal Republican senator from NY.

grantland.com

Anti-war activist, close to Jane Fonda and Coretta Scott King, endorsed in his 1970 race by Noam Chomsky, Betty Friedan, Dr. Benjamin Spock, William Sloane Coffin, Murray Kempton, and Howard Zinn.

(back when liberal Republicans were an actual thing, of course.)

But my favorite line in the story is from someone who was one of liberal buds back then and has since become much more conservative:

“We would put forth what were called Constructive Republican Alternative Proposals,” says Rumsfeld. “If you think of the acronym, it was a problem.”

h/t sully

96 Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2014 2:33:11pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

They really seem to think ISIS militants walk around the US with their logo on their back. Do they think Soviet spies used to wear hammer and sickle jackets?

97 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:33:46pm

The Isis deli shot reminds me of the guy on Preppers(Nat Geo show about people paranoid about doomsday) who thought he’d distract Al Queda with his awesome BBQ restaurant. Somehow, I don’t think ISIS are the deli going types and if they were, they wouldn’t be wearing their colors for all to see.

98 Dr Lizardo  Sep 10, 2014 2:34:04pm

OK, so I went over that link that C_L posted, and just….damn. That’s looking into the abyss; it’s some seriously twisted thinking, but it’s presented in a scholastic style. Strong influence there of Sayyid Qutb and his Milestones.

Yeesh. And the reason they’re doing it all?

Because they love us, and they’re trying to guide us to repentance and save us from the fires of eternal damnation. From their point of view, what they’re doing is the supreme act of love.

Wowsa. It’s pretty crazy, I’ll say that. I simply cannot comprehend that level of fanaticism.

99 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:34:50pm

re: #95 sagehen

Here’s a fun story from last year, about Goodell’s father — a super-liberal Republican senator from NY.

grantland.com

Anti-war activist, close to Jane Fonda and Coretta Scott King, endorsed in his 1970 race by Noam Chomsky, Betty Friedan, Dr. Benjamin Spock, William Sloane Coffin, Murray Kempton, and Howard Zinn.

(back when liberal Republicans were an actual thing, of course.)

But my favorite line in the story is from someone who was one of liberal buds back then and has since become much more conservative:

h/t sully

In other words, like Romney, he’s someone who can’t carry his father’s joke when it comes to character and leadership. BY the way, Goodell Sr was the man who replaced RFK in the Senate when RFK was shot.

100 dog philosopher  Sep 10, 2014 2:35:30pm

Right-wing hero Ben Carson says evolution is a myth created by those who don’t give enough credit to God. He says humans are arrogant and think “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

there should be a straw man museum

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 2:36:21pm

re: #81 Ace-o-aces

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The guy who took the picture is Mike Kasper of Conroe, Texas.
Yes, he is a endtimes wingnut.

102 dog philosopher  Sep 10, 2014 2:36:31pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

i think we should wait before we attack ISIS in South Carolina

103 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:36:46pm

Still blocking & whacking silly libertarian fuckwits. These people are too stupid to chew their own food.

104 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:37:02pm

re: #100 dog philosopher

Right-wing hero Ben Carson says evolution is a myth created by those who don’t give enough credit to God. He says humans are arrogant and think “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

there should be a straw man museum

Again Carson shows why outside of neuroscience, he’s a painfully ignorant man. You can accept evolutionary theory and God, Ben, so please shut the fuck up already and go back to Johns Hopkins already and maybe you’ll do some good instead of the harm you’re causing attempt to pose as a legitimate commentator.

105 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 2:39:26pm

The comments for the Jim Hoft post are getting even worse.

So the NAPAs are openly threatening to riot. Where is the color blind Holder & Barry on this???????

[…]

I Seriously Just Stay Away From All Blacks Now…They Could Chimpout At Any Moment…

I had to look up “NAPA.” It stands for “North American Pavement Apes.”

It’s pure Stormfront over there now.

106 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:40:33pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The comments for the Jim Hoft post are getting even worse.

I had to look up “NAPA.” It stands for “North American Pavement Apes.”

It’s pure Stormfront over there now.

The only difference between Gateway Pundit and Stormfront frankly is the URL and the clown running the place. Don Black is honest at least enough to tell you he’s a white supremacist asshole while Hoft lives this delusion that he is not.

107 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 10, 2014 2:40:36pm

A tale of two headlines

John McCain and James O’Keefe, Together at Last, Fear-Mongering About ISIS

And this

Scientists Send Messages Directly From One Brain To Another

Coincidence? I don’t think so.
///

108 Mike Lamb  Sep 10, 2014 2:41:16pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

And those who did hurt us in Boston and NYC arrived legally. Why risk sunstroke?

And that’s the entire strategy so as not to draw attention to any terrorist activities. You spend precious resources developing a plan of attack—why would you risk it over something as silly as getting nailed for being undocumented?

109 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:41:56pm

Man for Obama’s sake, I am glad he wasn’t president during WWII or the Cold War because I can totally see his “loyal oppositoin” siding with the Axis powers or Soviets/Mao’s China over him. They hate him that much.

110 Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2014 2:42:15pm

re: #108 Mike Lamb

And that’s the entire strategy so as not to draw attention to any terrorist activities. You spend precious resources developing a plan of attack—why would you risk it over something as silly as getting nailed for being undocumented?

Or wearing an ISIS logo on your shirt.

111 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2014 2:42:52pm

re: #65 b.d.

Goodbye Goodell

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Can we remove their non-profit status yet?

112 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:43:17pm
113 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 10, 2014 2:44:36pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The comments for the Jim Hoft post are getting even worse.

I had to look up “NAPA.” It stands for “North American Pavement Apes.”

It’s pure Stormfront over there now.

Damn. I cannot effing believe this is 21st century America.

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 2:44:44pm

Joe Bridenstine is even stupider than Steve Stockman.

115 TedStriker  Sep 10, 2014 2:44:59pm

re: #32 allegro

The same guy who was begging for a donated bunk in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago?

And trolling for willing lawyers on Twitter to help file his requests for Michael Brown’s juvie records, pro bono.

116 Mike Lamb  Sep 10, 2014 2:46:00pm

re: #65 b.d.

Goodbye Goodell

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All sorts of underlings that would be made to fall on this grenade before Goodell.

117 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:46:13pm

re: #113 Aunty Entity Dragon

Damn. I cannot effing believe this is 21st century America.

I know.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 2:48:18pm

ummm, whut?

119 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2014 2:48:22pm

re: #96 Ace-o-aces

They really seem to think ISIS militants walk around the US with their logo on their back. Do they think Soviet spies used to wear hammer and sickle jackets?

ISIS really is here!

120 Mike Lamb  Sep 10, 2014 2:49:31pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm, whut?

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But the Teabaggers aren’t racist, amirite?

121 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 2:50:24pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The comments for the Jim Hoft post are getting even worse now.

I had to look up “NAPA.” It stands for “North American Pavement Apes.”

It’s pure Stormfront over there now.

What the … Are they fucking serious?

*flips desk, lights on fire*

122 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2014 2:51:02pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm, whut?

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Thug with gang cartel drug dealer/user tattoo says wut?

123 ausador  Sep 10, 2014 2:52:15pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

Breitbart and The Blaze both published it on the 6th as “exclusives” with different stories attached as to who took the picture. Both say Texas deli though…

124 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 2:53:16pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

OK, so I went over that link that C_L posted, and just….damn. That’s looking into the abyss; it’s some seriously twisted thinking, but it’s presented in a scholastic style. Strong influence there of Sayyid Qutb and his Milestones.

Yeesh. And the reason they’re doing it all?

Because they love us, and they’re trying to guide us to repentance and save us from the fires of eternal damnation. From their point of view, what they’re doing is the supreme act of love.

Wowsa. It’s pretty crazy, I’ll say that. I simply cannot comprehend that level of fanaticism.

It’s not uncommon. My mother was a (Christian) religious fanatic. Fanatics think they’re helping you, saving you. They do it out of a twisted sense of love.

I will yet again use this opportunity to quote Amos Oz in How to Cure a Fanatic. He seems to understand fanatics particularly well. In the section below he was speaking about Bin Laden, but it fits the others equally well:

Peace will prevail only when the world is converted not to Islam, but to the most fundamentalist and fierce and rigid form of Islam. It will be good for you. Bin Laden essentially loves you; by his way of thinking September 11 was a labor of love. He did it for your own good, he wants to change you, he wants to redeem you.

That’s part of why I love this guy’s writing so much, because it rings true, it makes sense based on my own personal ethics as well as my experience with fanatics. Lucky for me my mother wasn’t violent, but still… the whole religious fanatic thing is highly unpleasant to live with if you’re not one of them.

125 Lidane  Sep 10, 2014 2:54:05pm

Wheee!

Jim Gilchrist Regrets He Can’t Take Up Arms To Stop ‘Tyrannical’ Obama From Imposing ‘One-Party Communism’

In an interview with Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg yesterday, Jim Gilchrist of the anti-immigrant vigilante group the Minuteman Project, lamented that he is unable to take up arms against a “tyrannical” U.S. government that will use both legal and illegal immigration to impose Chinese-style “one-party communism.”

126 A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2014 2:54:45pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can assure this fine patriot that while some of the Tea Party might be vets, a rather large proportion of them are not. If Georgia is any indication that is. I know of at least a dozen and not a one of them have served, but boy do they love them some war porn. Many of those were not at all too old or young in 2003 either, and yet, not a one of them even entertained the idea of enlisting.

127 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 10, 2014 2:55:01pm
128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 2:55:03pm

re: #123 ausador

Breitbart and The Blaze both published it on the 6th as “exclusives” with different stories attached as to who took the picture. Both say Texas deli though…

I tracked it down to a guy named Mike Kasper in Conroe, Texas.

129 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:55:05pm

re: #125 Lidane

Wheee!

Jim Gilchrist Regrets He Can’t Take Up Arms To Stop ‘Tyrannical’ Obama From Imposing ‘One-Party Communism’

One Party Communism? Hey Jimmy, the 50’s called, they want their conspiracy theory back, Seriously one party communism. LMAO who does this dipshit think he is.

130 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 2:55:33pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

That’s the same fucking picture that was on my feed yesterday of ISIS in South Carolina.

God these fucking people are such BAD liars.

Oh no, South Carolina, you say? Where is my fainting couch? (And how the hell did they get to South Carolina?)

131 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 2:56:36pm

re: #130 BeachDem

Oh no, South Carolina, you say? Where is my fainting couch? (And how the hell did they get to South Carolina?)

They heard the surf was good so they made a road trip.

132 ibob  Sep 10, 2014 3:01:48pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

I prefer to use the term ISIL because for me ISIS will always be a splined bottom bracket industry standard.

Actually, I like the SIL part. It means squamous intraepithelial lesion to me. Think precancer of the cervix. Examples: high grade SIL and low grade SIL. We would just need the Gardasil vaccine (guard against SIL). However, the right wing would oppose it since it protects against human papilloma virus (STD that causes genital wart and cervical cancer).

133 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 3:02:39pm

Report. McCain lies down with fleas wakes up a cranky ol’ barking dog. Or, something.

134 calochortus  Sep 10, 2014 3:07:08pm

re: #123 ausador

Breitbart and The Blaze both published it on the 6th as “exclusives” with different stories attached as to who took the picture. Both say Texas deli though…

I’m still trying to figure out how they got that clear enlargement of the ‘logo’ off that lousy picture…
Oh, you say they made it up? Well that explains a lot.

136 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 3:10:17pm
137 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:10:35pm

Does Zimmy’s rebbe know about this?

138 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 10, 2014 3:14:06pm

re: #116 Mike Lamb

All sorts of underlings that would be made to fall on this grenade before Goodell.

Some of them are nervous executives in the NFL Security Office.

139 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 3:16:43pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

Couldn’t resist.

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140 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 3:18:14pm
141 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 3:18:55pm

re: #20 b.d.

Chuck C in a different time would have been one of those people that bought pieces of the real cross.
#9
Bubblehead II

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IT WAS COSTLY TO GET!!!!

He had to coax the voices out of his head.

142 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 3:19:06pm

re: #137 De Kolta Chair

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Does Zimmy’s rebbe know about this?

Such a great fucking song, Isis. One of my favorite Dylan jams.

Youtube Video

143 ausador  Sep 10, 2014 3:19:20pm

re: #134 calochortus

I’m still trying to figure out how they got that clear enlargement of the ‘logo’ off that lousy picture…
Oh, you say they made it up? Well that explains a lot.

If you look at the image under an electron microscope there is a 15nm “(file photo)” in the lower right hand corner… ///

Tempted to send them a picture of what you can buy online, but I don’t troll anyone that hard…

144 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 3:23:32pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

After the 9/11 attacks, there was a flood of similar reports that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or whoever was infiltrating across the Mexican border, and we were about to be attacked.

And there was absolutely no truth to any of it. It never happened.

Much to my disgust, the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks seems to have become a sort of sick three-ring circus where religious fanatics, opportunistic demagogues, and media companies try to outdo each other in seeking to squeeze as much fear, resentment, political advantage and monetary gain out of it as they possibly can.

All the lesser personalities, the most obnoxious bloggers and self-proclaimed “journalists”, will be outside the main tent trolling for attention & traffic with their carnival barker clickbait.

9/11has become a commodity for many—it’s sickening.

145 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 3:24:23pm

re: #139 WhatEVs

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146 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:25:25pm

re: #142 darthstar

Rolling Thunder!!!

147 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 3:29:44pm
148 Romantic Heretic  Sep 10, 2014 3:32:41pm

re: #127 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Dropped, Chucky? You haven’t even broken water yet.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 3:33:31pm

re: #140 Kragar

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One of the things I remember from my days at Free Republic was an article about some American GI’s who looted a nazi train full of stolen Jewish stuff, required to return it to the survivors.

Freepers were ENRAGED that they weren’t allowed to keep that stuff HURR HURR THEY FOUGHT FOR IT!!!!!!

I said so the police officer who stops a home invader from raping your wife, should get your TV?

150 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 3:38:33pm

Of course, it’s the annual Islamic fear mongering that flares up around 9/11.

151 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:38:59pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

After the 9/11 attacks, there was a flood of similar reports that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or whoever was infiltrating across the Mexican border, and we were about to be attacked.

And there was absolutely no truth to any of it. It never happened.

My mother lived in Williams, Arizona, just south of the Grand Canyon, and for months after September 11 she’d tell me about how a lot of folks there were sure al-Qaeda was going to parachute into town any minute and kill everybody.

Strategery!

152 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 3:39:54pm

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

One of the things I remember from my days at Free Republic was an article about some American GI’s who looted a nazi train full of stolen Jewish stuff, required to return it to the survivors.

Freepers were ENRAGED that they weren’t allowed to keep that stuff HURR HURR THEY FOUGHT FOR IT!!!!!!

I said so the police officer who stops a home invader from raping your wife, should get your TV?

Why do I think a lot of RWers would love that idea? (The TV thing)

153 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 3:41:59pm
154 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 3:42:24pm
155 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 3:43:59pm

re: #153 Gus

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Michele Bachmann was (R-Mars). Rand Paul (R-Venus)? Seems a little backwards, but that’s right in these folks’ wheelhouse.

156 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:44:47pm

re: #153 Gus

157 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 3:44:56pm

I wish Obama would say he’s creating a new cabinet position: Chief ISIL Envoy, and that he’s appointing Rand Paul, which means Kentucky’s Democratic governor could appoint his replacement.

158 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 3:45:15pm

I just went down and got my boots. I think I might need them should I decide to watch Rand Paul speechify.

159 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:45:25pm

re: #154 Gus

Only on Fox News?

160 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 3:46:48pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

I just went down and got my boots. I think I might need them should I decide to watch Rand Paul speechify.

You prolly should’ve grabbed the hip waders instead. //

161 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 3:46:49pm

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

Only on Fox News?

Guess so.

162 Lancelot Link  Sep 10, 2014 3:48:36pm

re: #153 Gus

And then anti-war Rand Paul could offer a rebuttal to pro-war Rand Paul’s rebuttal, or possibly vice-versa.

163 dog philosopher  Sep 10, 2014 3:49:22pm

rand paul’s hair is too curly for a serious foreign policy announcement

164 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 3:49:48pm

re: #154 Gus

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Well darn. I’ll be out walking the dogs and then taking a nightie shower so I’m just gonna have to miss that. So sad.

165 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 3:52:36pm

re: #160 CuriousLurker

You prolly should’ve grabbed the hip waders instead. //

I look at it like I’ll be cleaning a stall, there will be shoveling involved. Luckily my house is a good ten steps up from the street and its flat around here, so he’s going to need a high output to get to this level.

166 Timothy Watson  Sep 10, 2014 3:53:34pm

re: #156 De Kolta Chair

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+100. I absolutely loved Batman: The Animated Series when I was a kid.

167 Mattand  Sep 10, 2014 3:53:39pm

re: #153 Gus

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Speaking of Aqua Bhudda:

Bill Maher reminded me today why I occasionally avoid watching Real Time for weeks at a time:

No Fan Of Hillary, Bill Maher Says He Could Vote GOP In 2016

I think someone woke up this morning and went extra hard on the Balance Fairy pills.

I just cannot wrap my head around the concept of spending the better part of six years (correctly) pointing out how batshit the GOTP is, and then saying you might vote Republican in 2016 because Hillary isn’t…

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Seriously, someone help me on this. It’s Fox News-level stupidity.

168 Mattand  Sep 10, 2014 3:54:28pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

+100. I absolutely loved Batman: The Animated Series when I was a kid.

LOL, I was in mid-20’s when it debuted, but I still watched it. Great stuff.

169 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 3:54:42pm

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

Only on Fox News?

The radioderpactivity is probably going to be so high that the rest of the MSM wants to protect their reputations as much as they can. Fox on the other hand is naturally shielded from radioderpactivity and can safely broadcast said radioderpactivity with impunity.

170 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 3:55:28pm

The Onion has been razor sharp in re: the NFL.

Video

171 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 3:55:29pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

+100. I absolutely loved Batman: The Animated Series when I was a kid.

I loved it too. That was a quality show. (I was in my forties.)

172 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 3:57:06pm

re: #167 Mattand

Speaking of Aqua Bhudda:

Bill Maher reminded me today why I occasionally avoid watching Real Time for weeks at a time:

No Fan Of Hillary, Bill Maher Says He Could Vote GOP In 2016

I think someone woke up this morning and went extra hard on the Balance Fairy pills.

I just cannot wrap my head around the concept of spending the better part of six years (correctly) pointing out how batshit the GOTP is, and then saying you might vote Republican in 2016 because Hillary isn’t…

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Seriously, someone help me on this. It’s Fox News-level stupidity.

Its that time of the year when the good shit is coming in. Nice and fresh and abundant. So, once the haze wears off and he gets back on the daily herb allotment all will be back to normal. Well, maybe not normal. I don’t really know if normal should be associated with Maher.

173 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 3:57:37pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do I think a lot of RWers would love that idea? (The TV thing)

HURR HURR WHO NEED TEH POLICE THERE YOONYUN THUG MOOCHERS!!!!! I CAN HAZ A BUNCH OF GUNZ!!!!!!! I CANS DEFEND MY OWN FAMILY WITHOUT PAYING TAX MONEYS1!!!!!!!

HURR HURR WEAR IS TEH POLICE I CALLED 9/11 WHEN THEY BROKE IN MY HOUS WILE I WAS ON VACATION & STOLE ALL TEH GUNZ!!!!!!!!

174 BongCrodny  Sep 10, 2014 3:58:41pm

Fair warning: I plan to dress up like Marvin the Martian, which should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are under threat of imminent attack by extraterrestrials.

175 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 3:58:49pm

re: #167 Mattand

Speaking of Aqua Bhudda:

Bill Maher reminded me today why I occasionally avoid watching Real Time for weeks at a time:

No Fan Of Hillary, Bill Maher Says He Could Vote GOP In 2016

I think someone woke up this morning and went extra hard on the Balance Fairy pills.

I just cannot wrap my head around the concept of spending the better part of six years (correctly) pointing out how batshit the GOTP is, and then saying you might vote Republican in 2016 because Hillary isn’t…

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Seriously, someone help me on this. It’s Fox News-level stupidity.

Fucking idiot

176 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 4:01:00pm

re: #174 BongCrodny

Fair warning: I plan to dress up like Marvin the Martian, which should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are under threat of imminent attack by extraterrestrials.

Will there be pictures?

(By the way…always loved Marvin, one of the funnest cartoon characters of all time.)

177 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 4:02:39pm

re: #167 Mattand

Speaking of Aqua Bhudda:

Bill Maher reminded me today why I occasionally avoid watching Real Time for weeks at a time:

No Fan Of Hillary, Bill Maher Says He Could Vote GOP In 2016

I think someone woke up this morning and went extra hard on the Balance Fairy pills.

I just cannot wrap my head around the concept of spending the better part of six years (correctly) pointing out how batshit the GOTP is, and then saying you might vote Republican in 2016 because Hillary isn’t…

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Seriously, someone help me on this. It’s Fox News-level stupidity.

Maher is a douche. The end.

178 Jenner7  Sep 10, 2014 4:04:30pm

Officer Involved Shooting In Saratoga Springs Leaves 1 Dead

kutv.com

I live about 5 minutes away from where this happened.

179 TedStriker  Sep 10, 2014 4:05:11pm

re: #144 CuriousLurker

Much to my disgust, the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks seems to have become a sort of sick three-ring circus where religious fanatics, opportunistic demagogues, and media companies try to outdo each other in seeking to squeeze as much fear, resentment, political advantage and monetary gain out of it as they possibly can.

All the lesser personalities, the most obnoxious bloggers and self-proclaimed “journalists”, will be outside the main tent trolling for attention & traffic with their carnival barker clickbait.

9/11has become a commodity for many—it’s sickening.

I’m dreading tomorrow’s news circus…

180 Mattand  Sep 10, 2014 4:05:44pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

Its that time of the year when the good shit is coming in. Nice and fresh and abundant. So, once the haze wears off and he gets back on the daily herb allotment all will be back to normal. Well, maybe not normal. I don’t really know if normal should be associated with Maher.

This is a guy who likes to point out that not all Republcians are racist, but odds are if someone is channeling their inner Jim Hoft, they’re likely GOP.

He constantly defends Obama’s performance on the economy by routinely describing the ‘08 meltdown as the flaming pile of dogshit Bush and the GOTP left on the country’s door step.

Swear to God, this is why I’m always railing against the bullshit myth of the too-smart-to-be-fooled-by-any-politician “independent” voter. Right fucking here.

How. The. Hell can you look at where the Republican party has sunk to since Obama was elected, and decide that maybe we should give them another shot to run the country?

Unreal. Sometimes I think “American Independent voter” is a euphemism for “Unable to comprehend basic evidence due to undiagnosed brain damage.”

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:06:14pm

I’m going to be especially nice tonight and not crack any jokes…

Rob Ford hospitalized: ‘working diagnosis’ is tumour

182 Mattand  Sep 10, 2014 4:07:23pm

re: #177 Gus

Maher is a douche. The end.

LOL, I have a feeling he’s going to bust out prime Men’s-Rights-Activist garbage and defend Ray Rice soon. Place as much blame on Rice’s wife as Rice himself.

183 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:08:03pm

It appears that God has spoken and is ready to smite somebody:

184 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 4:09:18pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

It appears that God has spoken and is ready to smite somebody:

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So the police can haz armored tanks but can’t haz umbrellas?

185 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:10:04pm

re: #167 Mattand

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Maher is just as dumb as Jenny McCarthy, only with a higher salary.

186 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:10:21pm

BEES!!!

187 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 4:11:24pm

re: #167 Mattand

Speaking of Aqua Bhudda:

Bill Maher reminded me today why I occasionally avoid watching Real Time for weeks at a time:

No Fan Of Hillary, Bill Maher Says He Could Vote GOP In 2016

I think someone woke up this morning and went extra hard on the Balance Fairy pills.

I just cannot wrap my head around the concept of spending the better part of six years (correctly) pointing out how batshit the GOTP is, and then saying you might vote Republican in 2016 because Hillary isn’t…

Ah, fuck if I know what Maher wants HRC to be. And what the fuck does he think will happen to this country if we get a GOTP super majority again? That Rand will be a different kind of Republican?

Seriously, someone help me on this. It’s Fox News-level stupidity.

Maher is on Hardball right now. Tweety, for some reason, always invites him on on big nights and Maher bends over backwards to implode the importance of any current headline. Maher is an antivaxxer pompous douchebag that never tires of smelling his own poo.

188 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 4:12:37pm

re: #167 Mattand

I kind of gave up on his show last season—he just had too many total wingnuts on the panel. Not your average garden variety losers, but the bottom of the barrel types—Ralph Reed, Carly Fiorina, Bill Kristol, Dinesh D’Souza, and of course, Glenn Greenwald. (I’m sure Issa was in there somewhere—Bill loves him some Issa.)

He seems to love having people who just talk over everyone else, Gish Galloping along—and Maher doesn’t know enough about what he’s talking about to correct them.

Then there’s his anti-vax bullshit and, I just got really tired of the whole thing.

189 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:13:23pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m going to be especially nice tonight and not crack any jokes…

Rob Ford hospitalized: ‘working diagnosis’ is tumour

From the comments section:

James Belardo * Yorkville Sound
…and this is a guy whom drinks 5 or 6 shots of espresso at once. This is TRUE because I witnessed it!

Espresso causes tumors?

190 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 4:14:46pm

Looks like there are a lot of Bill Maher fans here.

/

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:15:29pm

Some nights I just love twitter…

192 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:15:33pm

re: #187 b.d.

Maher is on Hardball right now. Tweety, for some reason, always invites him on on big nights and Maher bends over backwards to implode the importance of any current headline. Maher is an antivaxxer pompous douchebag that never tires of smelling his own poo.

Anyone who rejects basic germ theory should avoid talking about science and stick to stoner jokes.

193 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 4:15:52pm

re: #189 De Kolta Chair

From the comments section:

Espresso causes tumors?

A “guy whom drinks”? AAAAAARRRRRG!

Makes my eye twitch. Hard.

194 Jenner7  Sep 10, 2014 4:17:03pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

I watch his show and I do agree with him on some things. But Rand Paul, Bill? That’s way out there for me.

195 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:17:37pm

re: #193 allegro

A “guy whom drinks”? AAAAAARRRRRG!

Makes my eye twitch. Hard.

You have NO idea how hard it is for me to resist commenting…

:D

196 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 4:18:18pm

re: #184 allegro

So the police can haz armored tanks but can’t haz umbrellas?

US Army can have lots of tanks, no umbrellas. USAF can have umbrellas, no tanks.

197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:18:55pm

re: #196 Decatur Deb

US Army can have lots of tanks, no umbrellas. USAF can have umbrellas, no tanks.

President Obama can have an umbrella, but he has to hold it himself…

198 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 4:20:38pm
199 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 4:21:46pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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I’ve got to ask: Since when did every Presidential speech require a response from the opposition party? (Answer: Something something something BLACK PRESIDENT something.)

200 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:22:06pm

I mustn’t let all this power go to my head.

(On second thought, I don’t know if I like this one. Poor chimpy doesn’t look at all amused.)

201 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 4:23:21pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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Why doesn’t The Intercept just get Jeremy Scahill to write a rebuttal and post it on their site?

Hahahahaha

202 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 4:25:00pm

[1941wingnut] TODAY IS NOT A DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY [/1941wingnut]

203 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 4:25:14pm

What’s the over/under for Roger Goodell co-opting the President’s speech tonight with a statement of his own?

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:26:06pm

OK, here’s the story of how my day has been:
Owner of the newspapers who sends me a check every week, send me and email late this morning:
“I’m going out of town, can you proof the north papers? Answer ASAP.”
I said, “no problem, just for today?”
A couple of hours later he responds: “Until Monday.”
OK, still no problem, but I’m looking at that weather forecast and the radar and thinking maybe I should get into town to stock up of needed storm supplies.
THREE HOURS LATER I finally get home, with my truck on the back of a rollup towtruck because it decided it didn’t want to start when I got out of the grocery store. Around 90F and some frozen fooodstuffs in the sacks and no matter how much cussing and hammering on the battery terminals would make the truck start.
I really do need to have some very basic tools in my truck. They used to be there but somebody *cough*MrBWS*cough* “borrowed” them…

205 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 4:27:19pm

re: #188 BeachDem

I kind of gave up on his show last season—he just had too many total wingnuts on the panel. Not your average garden variety losers, but the bottom of the barrel types—Ralph Reed, Carly Fiorina, Bill Kristol, Dinesh D’Souza, and of course, Glenn Greenwald. (I’m sure Issa was in there somewhere—Bill loves him some Issa.)

He seems to love having people who just talk over everyone else, Gish Galloping along—and Maher doesn’t know enough about what he’s talking about to correct them.

Then there’s his anti-vax bullshit and, I just got really tired of the whole thing.

He also takes great pride in having elevated Ann Coulter to fame and fortune. For which he should never be forgiven.

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:28:24pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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207 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 4:29:36pm

EDWARD SNOWDEN SHOULD DELIVER THE REBUTTAL TO OBAMA

208 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 4:30:36pm

They should charge this lying asshole. He got that guy in Walmart killed.

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:30:37pm

re: #207 b.d.

EDWARD SNOWDEN SHOULD DELIVER THE REBUTTAL TO OBAMA

Greenwald will do it in 140 characters or less…

210 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 4:33:03pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, here’s the story of how my day has been:
Owner of the newspapers who sends me a check every week, send me and email late this morning:
“I’m going out of town, can you proof the north papers? Answer ASAP.”
I said, “no problem, just for today?”
A couple of hours later he responds: “Until Monday.”
OK, still no problem, but I’m looking at that weather forecast and the radar and thinking maybe I should get into town to stock up of needed storm supplies.
THREE HOURS LATER I finally get home, with my truck on the back of a rollup towtruck because it decided it didn’t want to start when I got out of the grocery store. Around 90F and some frozen fooodstuffs in the sacks and no matter how much cussing and hammering on the battery terminals would make the truck start.
I really do need to have some very basic tools in my truck. They used to be there but somebody *cough*MrBWS*cough* “borrowed” them…

We had a 3-hour network outage at work this morning. The entire floor was sitting around, completely useless, for the duration.

211 Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2014 4:34:18pm

Night Lizards. Time to call it a night. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

212 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 4:34:47pm

PAUL/MAHER 2016

The tower of babble…a political farce to be dealt with.

-

We used to have a guy that at one time knew a lawyer/politician that lived next door to the old house a bunch of art students hung in back about ‘74. We had a whole block except for the lawyers/politicians place.

We first saw him walking around outside the lawyer’s house looking to crash. He said he knew the lawyer and always stopped by when in town.

He was one of those classic road warrior types of the late 60s. A combination Jack Kerouac/Tom Waits/Charles Manson with thumb out. He had that whole street rap down and could befuddle just about anyone with his roundabout lectures of psychic nothingness or something out of his book of road poems/scrambled prose, a rubber band bound collection of office notebooks.

Even after the lawyer moved away. Blake would still come and try to hang out at the house with us art students. We were all like 20-21 and he was probably 40. I think he had road stops like that all across this land. He’d talk and beat jive/rap his way all the way back and forth hitchhiking.

Bill Maher reminds me of that dude…Blake. Sounds good at first and then when given thought its total bullshit. Everyone knows the dude. Bill Maher gets paid for it.

213 TedStriker  Sep 10, 2014 4:35:54pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m going to be especially nice tonight and not crack any jokes…

Rob Ford hospitalized: ‘working diagnosis’ is tumour

I wouldn’t wish cancer/tumors on anyone, but Rob Ford’s been tempting fate for a long time. Maybe, with this, he’ll get straight.

214 Romantic Heretic  Sep 10, 2014 4:36:38pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

+100. I absolutely loved Batman: The Animated Series when I was a kid.

re: #168 Mattand

LOL, I was in mid-20’s when it debuted, but I still watched it. Great stuff.

You can stream them all here.

215 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 4:36:57pm

re: #208 WhatEVs

They should charge this lying asshole. He got that guy in Walmart killed.

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216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 4:38:06pm
217 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 4:38:19pm

re: #213 TedStriker

I wouldn’t wish cancer/tumors on anyone, but Rob Ford’s been tempting fate for a long time. Maybe, with this, he’ll get straight.

He’ll more likely get better drugs. Legally.

218 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:39:28pm

re: #214 Romantic Heretic

You can stream them all here.

Thanks. I like the way they resemble the Fleischer Studios Superman cartoons of the forties. I’ve always assumed that was done on purpose.

Youtube Video

219 simoom  Sep 10, 2014 4:39:32pm

More less-than-helpful foreign policy “advice” (hectoring) from the peanut gallery:

No explanation of what “provide leadership” actually entails. The embedded video certainly doesn’t clarify it, as it’s just a minute long floor speech of trite partisan shots followed again by the nebulous “I hope he provides long overdue leadership on this issue.”

Calls for a “believable goal,” and links to an oped entitled “Dick Cheney Is Still Right.”

—-

And just for sanity’s sake, an example of sober and responsible statement:

220 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 4:40:05pm

re: #208 WhatEVs

They should charge this lying asshole. He got that guy in Walmart killed.

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And they should stop calling him an “ex-Marine,” when he’s really a “non-Marine.”

And for those who haven’t had a chance to see this bastion of truth, justice and the American way…

Ronald Ritchie

221 allegro  Sep 10, 2014 4:42:07pm

re: #220 BeachDem

And they should stop calling him an “ex-Marine,” when he’s really a “non-Marine.”

And for those who haven’t had a chance to see this bastion of truth, justice and the American way…

Ronald Ritchie

Snappy dresser. His button earring matches his skull t-shirt.

222 Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2014 4:42:21pm

Let’s not kid ourselves, no matter what the President announces tonight, by tomorrow morning, every wingnut in America and on Capital Hill will have judge it as insufficient/too much and declared their total refusal to support it.

223 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 4:43:28pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

Let’s not kid ourselves, no matter what the President announces tonight, by tomorrow morning, every wingnut in America and on Capital Hill will have judge it as insufficient/too much and declared their total refusal to support it.

This President can do no right in the eyes of the Right.

224 TedStriker  Sep 10, 2014 4:43:34pm

re: #208 WhatEVs

They should charge this lying asshole. He got that guy in Walmart killed.

Voluntary manslaughter ought to do the trick.

225 GeneJockey  Sep 10, 2014 4:43:57pm

re: #219 simoom

More less-than-helpful foreign policy “advice” (hectoring) from the peanut gallery:

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“Dick Cheney Is Still Right”? About what? Greeted as Liberators? Last throes of the Insurgency?

226 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:44:03pm

Rand Paul, you say?

227 Stanley Sea  Sep 10, 2014 4:44:11pm

re: #219 simoom

More less-than-helpful foreign policy “advice” (hectoring) from the peanut gallery:

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I conjured Ms. Foxx. Just the other day I lamented we hadn’t heard from her in awhile.

228 Stanley Sea  Sep 10, 2014 4:45:07pm

re: #227 Stanley Sea

And I apologize.

229 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 4:45:22pm

NFL going all in with denying they’ve seen the video:

Up to now … the NFL has hedged, saying to their knowledge no one in the organization got the tape. But now an NFL source tells us in no uncertain terms … no one at the league got it. And the source goes on to define the league as 3 things — NFL headquarters, NFL Films in New Jersey and the NFL Network in L.A.

The source goes on to say the NFL headquarters has around 475 employees at its NYC headquarters, and “no one at these 3 offices saw it.”

TMZ Sports is NOT vouching for the NFL’s position. We’re merely telling you what they’re saying.

Read more: tmz.com

230 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 4:48:26pm
231 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 4:50:29pm

I thought this guy was 12 until I saw his scruffy gray beard.

232 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 10, 2014 4:51:58pm

It’s occurred to me that a large part of the RWNJ base does not seem to know what ISIS is. They seem to think it is a nation state with a loyal population, factories, and an infrastructure that can be wiped out in the name of revenge and deterrence, and oil wells that can be seized for our benefit, In fact, ISIS is a criminal gang squatting on land that belongs to a nation-state, Iraq, and holding part of that state’s population largely against its will.

233 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 4:52:45pm

So apparently Michael Moore said that the only thing Obama will be remembered for will be being the first president. Uh sorry Mike but what about the most progressive president has ever had on LGBT issues, someone who actually got health care reform passed(which despite what emoprogs like you believe is a big deal and was never going to be a walk in the park), and he got Bin Laden. Really this shit annoys me as much with a lefty speaker as much as it does a righty speaker but then again Moore is the same clown who wishes Obama would “act more black.”

234 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 4:55:39pm

Bold prediction, Obama’s speech will upset emoprogs, war mongrels, and dude bros alike.

235 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 4:55:57pm

You’d think I was dissing Ron Rosenbaum’s kid or something. I blocked him. Don’t have time for this kind of idiocy, just because I expressed an opinion.

236 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 4:56:14pm

A revealing map of the Middle East.

237 Jenner7  Sep 10, 2014 4:56:24pm

re: #223 thedopefishlives

Unless he announces tonight that he is resigning…..

238 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 4:56:52pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

I thought this guy was 12 until I saw his scruffy gray beard.

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He must reserve all of his brainpower for his books, at least the ones I’ve read and which are actually pretty good.

239 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 4:56:56pm

re: #237 Jenner7

Unless he announces tonight that he is resigning…..

Even then, they would find something vile, racist, and evil to say about it.

240 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 4:57:51pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

A revealing map of the Middle East.

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What country is 18.1? Young.

241 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 4:58:06pm

re: #219 simoom

ISIS spokesman, Lindsey Graham.

242 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 4:58:13pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

What country is 18.1? Young.

That’s Afghanistan.

243 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 4:58:20pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

You’d think I was dissing Ron Rosenbaum’s kid or something. I blocked him. Don’t have time for this kind of idiocy, just because I expressed an FORCED MY opinion ON HIM.

FTF the big baby.

244 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 4:58:23pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Bold prediction, Obama’s speech will upset emoprogs, war mongrels, and dude bros alike.

Probably everybody except for us, simply because we represent a pretty good cross-section of “middle America”.

245 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 4:58:58pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

That’s Afghanistan.

Thanks.

246 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 4:59:15pm

re: #225 GeneJockey

“Dick Cheney Is Still Right”? About what? Greeted as Liberators? Last throes of the Insurgency?

Mission accomplished.

Checks cashed.

247 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:00:21pm

So I see Graham is doing his usual trolling about our enemies not fearing and respecting President Obama. Like they fear you and Senator McCain, Lindsay? A bunch of cowardly shits who think the only answer to our problems is more and more wars? And guess what, Obama doesn’t need their respect and fear anyhow. I bet you believed the same shit about OBL and Obama, and yet Obama got him too.

248 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:00:43pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

Probably everybody except for us, simply because we represent a pretty good cross-section of “middle America”.

Yep. Lotta nuts out there tho.

249 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 5:01:13pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

That’s Afghanistan.

It helps to kill everyone between the ages of 24-30

250 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 5:01:37pm

re: #220 BeachDem

And they should stop calling him an “ex-Marine,” when he’s really a “non-Marine.”

And for those who haven’t had a chance to see this bastion of truth, justice and the American way…

Ronald Ritchie

Fat-headed lying sack of shit. (Spit)

251 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:01:41pm

re: #243 wrenchwench

FTF the big baby.

Inorite? Then he wanted to lecture me with multiple tweets on how I should not dictate his opinions to him? What an asshole.

Fuck that. Not gonna play.

252 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 5:02:13pm

What a dick.

253 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 5:02:54pm

re: #227 Stanley Sea

I conjured Ms. Foxx. Just the other day I lamented we hadn’t heard from her in awhile.

Well, thanks for that!

//

254 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:03:45pm

re: #238 De Kolta Chair

He must reserve all of his brainpower for his books, at least the ones I’ve read and which are actually pretty good.

I have a feeling something significant happened to him while he was listening to that music. He’s very sensitive about it. And Dylan is not exactly the go-to for defending musical taste, EMFFMOOY*.

*Excuse me for forcing my opinion on you (it’s the new IMHO).

255 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:04:59pm

re: #252 Gus

What a dick.

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Who has done more for Detroit and Michigan? Obama or Moore?

256 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 5:05:00pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

Inorite? Then he wanted to lecture me with multiple tweets on how I should not dictate his opinions to him? What an asshole.

Fuck that. Not gonna play.

What’s he fussing about anyway? Please don’t tell me it’s just because you said you’ve never been able to stand U2’s music…

257 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:05:47pm

re: #252 Gus

What a dick.

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Moore’s an asshole. I hate to sound like a cheerleader and someone convinced Obama can do no wrong but Obama has faced challenges like no other president has faced in his presidency due to his race and Moore knows that. Moore also knows that Obama has gotten real accomplishments done. Do I have my disappointments with President Obama? Sure I do but at the same time I commend him for all he’s been able to do with a hostile GOP Congress and lefty emoprog assholes like Moore who think any policy short of replicating Scandinavian welfare state policies is a failure.

258 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:06:32pm

re: #255 b.d.

Who has done more for Detroit and Michigan? Obama or Moore?

Obama. Obama actually did what he could in his power to help those two areas. Moore uses them as political props.

259 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:06:43pm

re: #252 Gus

What a dick.

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Moore retweets Dylan Ratigan and Wikileaks, enough said?

260 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:07:23pm

re: #256 CuriousLurker

What’s he fussing about anyway? Please don’t tell me it’s just because you said you’ve never been able to stand U2’s music…

Bingo.

261 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 10, 2014 5:07:30pm

McCain and O’Keefe…..
You got NutJob on my WingNut….
You got WingNut on my NutJob!!!

Hey, They are even crazier together.

RBS

262 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:08:56pm

The really stupid thing is the assumption that I’m judging “by technical virtuosity.” Anybody who sees the music I tweet under the #NowPlaying tag can easily see how ridiculous that statement is.

Oh well, I’m done with that dumb argument over nothing.

263 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 5:08:59pm

re: #252 Gus

What a dick.

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Ew, I just noticed something—except for the lack of a beard, with those glasses he looks like and older CCJ.

264 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 5:09:25pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

Bingo.

Good grief.

265 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:10:14pm

Having disappointments with Obama is understandable. Acting like he’s accomplished nothing is dishonest.

266 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:10:18pm

re: #256 CuriousLurker

What’s he fussing about anyway? Please don’t tell me it’s just because you said you’ve never been able to stand U2’s music…

That’s what it’s about. He got very offended that I don’t like U2. Obviously some very deep insecurity at work there.

267 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:11:18pm

Another guy tweeted at me: “I never thought you were very bright, now I know it.”

268 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 5:12:00pm

Revved up and raring to go!

269 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:12:08pm

Then again Michael Moore was the guy who thought a general with no elected experience or really showed any understanding of domestic policy should have been the Democratic nominee against Bush in 2004 simply because he wanted the Dems to run a general and look “tough.” And yet this guy gets upset at any foreign policy action that involves us having to use force. I am no hawk but I am no naive emoprog idiot who doesn’t think that there aren’t FP problems in the world that need to be solved with force either.

270 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:13:11pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

That’s what it’s about. He got very offended that I don’t like U2. Obviously some very deep insecurity at work there.

Some people get offended about the stupidest things. I mean, music choice is almost entirely personal. The only exception I can think of being Nickelback.

271 Cheechako  Sep 10, 2014 5:14:27pm

More fodder for the RWNJ’s:

New Russian military bases going up on Wrangel Island: Russia has started constructing new military bases on Wrangel Island northwest of Alaska and on Cape Schmidt on Russia’s Arctic coast with two sets of 34 prefabricated modules, The Moscow Times reported Monday, quoting a spokesman for the Defense Ministry. “On Wrangel Island and Cape Schmidt, block-modules have been unloaded for the construction of military camps. The complex is being erected in the form of a star,” said Col. Alexander Gordeyev, an official of the Eastern Military District. “The construction of the new Arctic bases, which will be the first new facilities established in the area since the Soviets abandoned their Arctic positions in the waning years of the Cold War, marks a milestone in Russia’s militarization of the region,” the newspaper said. “Wrangel Island is classified by the Russian government as a nature reserve and was never used by the Soviets as a military base. In late August, the Russian navy carried out an expedition to the island and planted a flag, which Pacific Fleet spokesperson Captain First Rank Roman Martov said ‘heralded the station of the first ever naval base on (Wrangel Island).’” The base will consist of residential, commercial, administrative and recreational units, RIA Novosti reported.

Alaska Dispatch News
September 10, 2014

272 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 5:14:28pm
273 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 5:14:40pm

re: #254 wrenchwench

I have a feeling something significant happened to him while he was listening to that music. He’s very sensitive about it. And Dylan is not exactly the go-to for defending musical taste, EMFFMOOY*.

He should stick to Nabokov and Hitler.

274 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 5:15:16pm

Wow. That Twitter spat Charles just had with this Rosenbaum guy was really stupid.

275 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #272 Gus

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He was always Mr. Larson (his Happy Gilmore character in the image) to me but RIP to a legend of the Bond films.

276 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:15:48pm

re: #270 thedopefishlives

Some people get offended about the stupidest things. I mean, music choice is almost entirely personal. The only exception I can think of being Nickelback.

I’d rather listen to Nickelback than U2. There. I said it. And I’m not sorry.

277 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:16:40pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

I’d rather listen to Nickelback than U2. There. I said it. And I’m not sorry.

Ouch. I mean I think U2 is overrated too but ouch.

278 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 5:17:10pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

It’s so bizarre… people get on Twitter and want to express their opinions, then they get all bent out of shape when others, who’re also expressing their opinions, disagree with them.

I could understand people being upset if you said something bigoted or racist or misogynistic or whatever, but music preferences? I wonder how many people would take offense if I tweeted, “I love broccoli, but can’t stand spinach—the texture and strong flavor of it makes me gag.”

279 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:17:57pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

I’d rather listen to Nickelback than U2. There. I said it. And I’m not sorry.

Wow. Duuuuuude.

280 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:18:10pm

re: #278 CuriousLurker

It’s so bizarre… people get on Twitter and want to express their opinions, then they get all bent out of shape when others, who’re also expressing their opinions, disagree with them.

I could understand people being upset if you said something bigoted or racist or misogynistic or whatever, but music preferences? I wonder how many people would take offense if I tweeted, “I love broccoli, but can’t stand spinach—the texture and strong flavor of it make me gag.”

People get way too personal about music. I think I remember hearing about a scuffle between Jugolos and Emimem fans. It’s a good thing that the Indie folk scene is pretty peaceful from what I see. Can’t imagine Fleet Foxes and Mumford and Sons going at it.

281 simoom  Sep 10, 2014 5:19:07pm

re: #252 Gus

What a dick.

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Moore was pushing that same distill-a-presidency-down-to-a-skin-color narrative yesterday too:

hollywoodreporter.com

“When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered: He was the first black president,” Moore said during a discussion at The Hollywood Reporter’s video lounge at the Toronto Film Festival.

“OK, not a bad accomplishment, but that’s it,” the director said. “That’s it, Mr. Obama. 100 years from now: ‘He was the first black American that got elected president.’ And that’s it. Eight years of your life and that’s what people are going to remember. Boy, I got a feeling, knowing you, that — you’d probably wish you were remembered for a few other things, a few other things you could’ve done.”

282 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:19:35pm
283 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:19:57pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

I’d rather listen to Nickelback than U2. There. I said it. And I’m not sorry.

Woah!

No need to say things that you can’t take back!

284 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 5:20:00pm
285 Stanley Sea  Sep 10, 2014 5:20:17pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

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hahahahahaha. Last word. Done.

286 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:20:35pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

This is why we love you, boss.

For the record: Mrs. Fish put together a playlist of tracks she wants me to buy her. When she was done, she turned to me and commented, “Wow, there’s an awful lot of Nickelback on here.” Guess I’d better learn to love it.

287 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:20:36pm

Well, since we’re talking music tastes now:

288 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 5:21:50pm

One of my favorite things to do at concerts is ask random patrons “Why do you think (band playing on stage) sucks?” Very easy to weed out the assholes that way. I’ve noticed at Widespread Panic shows people can get really defensive when I ask them “Why do you think Panic sucks?”

In Aspen last March for Umphrey’s McGee, I asked a dude outside the venue an hour before the show “Why do you think Umphreys sucks?” He said, simply, “Bacon.” We became friends.

289 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:22:02pm

re: #278 CuriousLurker

It’s so bizarre… people get on Twitter and want to express their opinions, then they get all bent out of shape when others, who’re also expressing their opinions, disagree with them.

I could understand people being upset if you said something bigoted or racist or misogynistic or whatever, but music preferences? I wonder how many people would take offense if I tweeted, “I love broccoli, but can’t stand spinach—the texture and strong flavor of it make me gag.”

I even tried to be light about it with him, but nope. He really wanted to be offended. So fuck it. He can be offended then.

290 Stanley Sea  Sep 10, 2014 5:22:16pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, since we’re talking music tastes now:

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Those folks have the most un-overlord kittehs.

291 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:23:19pm

re: #281 simoom

Moore was pushing that same distill-a-presidency-down-to-a-skin-color narrative yesterday too:

hollywoodreporter.com

I guess doing more than any other president has done on gay rights isn’t enough for Mikey nor was saving the Michigan auto industry which he professes to support. He’s an assshole. I haven’t been a fan of Moore’s since he showed he was a principled less hack when he backed Wesley Clark for president despite claiming that the Kosovo War was Clinton Waging the Dog.

292 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:23:20pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I even tried to be light about with him, but nope. He really wanted to be offended. So fuck it. He can be offended then.

If people are determined to take things personally, I’m under no obligation to continue the conversation. They can go sulk in a corner and let the adults talk.

293 Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2014 5:23:53pm

re: #284 Gus

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IT’S A COOKBOOK!!!

294 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 5:24:02pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

What the fuck? Nickelback?

295 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:24:47pm

Well on the bright side, Charles did not say Creed. If he had said that, I might never want to come back here. Creed makes Nickelback look like The Beatles.

296 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:24:52pm

re: #294 darthstar

What the fuck? Nickelback?

You’re new to this thread, aren’t you.

297 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:25:28pm

Somebody else here should totally down ding Charles for his Nickleback comment. I’ll silently give that person 100% of my moral support.

298 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:25:51pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Those folks have the most un-overlord kittehs.

Well, Tom Cox also shares house with SmugCat and SwearyCat (and three other cats):

299 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:26:19pm

re: #297 b.d.

Somebody else here should totally down ding Charles for his Nickleback comment. I’ll silently give that person 100% of my moral support.

I would heh but I don’t want to get in trouble lol and I agree in spirit with him about U2 even if I do appreciate Bono as a humanitarian.

300 Amory Blaine  Sep 10, 2014 5:26:38pm

301 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 5:26:45pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

I’d rather listen to Nickelback than U2. There. I said it. And I’m not sorry.

I liked their first album - U2’s. Nickelback is there to mock, like Creed was.

302 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 5:26:51pm

R.I.P. Eegah

303 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:27:13pm

On another musical note, excited for that new George Harrison thing. I grew up a John as my favorite Beatle kind of guy but as I’ve gotten older, I’m a member of Team Harrison.

304 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 5:27:20pm

Rather listen to Lord Kitchener.

The Bees Melody

Youtube Video

305 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:27:22pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

I would heh but I don’t want to get in trouble lol and I agree in spirit with him about U2 even if I do appreciate Bono as a humanitarian.

Charles isn’t the type to take a downding personally. Especially over music preferences. Unless you’re a tool and choose to get all offended.

306 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 10, 2014 5:27:30pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

When you pay so many dollars to actually see U2 live you might not want to be lectured and pitched for money as much as you are entertained.

307 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:28:16pm

re: #301 darthstar

I liked their first album - U2’s. Nickelback is there to mock, like Creed was.

Creed is perhaps the worst band I’ve ever heard. Yes worse than the 90’s Boy Bands.

308 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 5:28:37pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

On another musical note, excited for that new George Harrison thing. I grew up a John as my favorite Beatle kind of guy but as I’ve gotten older, I’m a member of Team Harrison.

I’ve always been on Team George.

309 darthstar  Sep 10, 2014 5:28:53pm

Here’s a little Lazy Lightning/Supplication to clear the cobwebs, Charles. I played this at work today and one of my employees says during the instrumental jam, “They’re only playing one chord” and I said, “Yes, but look where they’re taking it.”

Youtube Video

310 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:29:19pm

re: #305 thedopefishlives

Charles isn’t the type to take a downding personally. Especially over music preferences. Unless you’re a tool and choose to get all offended.

I know, I am teasing. He is right though aoout U2 being massively overrated. I like some of their songs but man I’ve never gotten the hype. Same with Dave Matthews Band (and I think that one will get me exiled from my own state)

311 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:29:57pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I know, I am teasing. He is right though aoout U2 being massively overrated. I like some of their songs but man I’ve never gotten the hype. Same with Dave Matthews Band (and I think that one will get me exiled from my own state)

Heh. I remember when Dave Matthews was all the rage. Followed shortly thereafter by mocking Dave Matthews being all the rage.

312 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:30:01pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

I’ve always been on Team George.

Hipster! But yeah if I have one complaint about the Beatles is that they didn’t use George enough until later. He’s probably my favorite person of those four guys too.

313 urbanmeemaw  Sep 10, 2014 5:30:40pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Karl Rove sent him a new script today that Todd has to memorize while he practices his “gotcha” face. What sniveling weasel he is.

314 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:30:51pm

re: #311 thedopefishlives

Heh. I remember when Dave Matthews was all the rage. Followed shortly thereafter by mocking Dave Matthews being all the rage.

Both my cousins I think played songs by him at their weddings. Blah. I mean it’s not terrible music obviously but it’s one of those that you hear and you wonder what the hell the hype is about.

315 Minor_L  Sep 10, 2014 5:32:02pm

re: #267 Charles Johnson

Your opinion is far from controversial. That is so weird.

316 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:32:15pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Both my cousins I think played songs by him at their weddings. Blah. I mean it’s not terrible music obviously but it’s one of those that you hear and you wonder what the hell the hype is about.

It’s generic hipster music.

317 Mentis Fugit  Sep 10, 2014 5:32:30pm

A catastrophic technical failure at a U2 gig.
Youtube Video

318 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 10, 2014 5:33:14pm

re: #272 Gus

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Kiel has been in declining health for years. I saw him in the Pittsburgh airport years ago and he was already using a wheelchair a great deal of the time. However, he was very polite to people who approached him since he was obviously easily recognized.

319 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:33:18pm

re: #309 darthstar

Here’s a little Lazy Lightning/Supplication to clear the cobwebs, Charles. I played this at work today and one of my employees says during the instrumental jam, “They’re only playing one chord” and I said, “Yes, but look where they’re taking it.”

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OK, here we go. I never liked the Grateful Dead. I was ostracized and sometimes self-ostracized in college for that.

320 urbanmeemaw  Sep 10, 2014 5:33:29pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

Well, I like some of U2’s music very much, but I have to admit I’ve hated Bob Dylan since 1963. So anyone who wants is free to rip the obnoxious boring baby boomer decoder ring off of my cold dead finger is more than welcome (LOL).

321 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:33:33pm

I really need to keep this one handy for Upchuck and company:

322 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:33:57pm

Now on the subject of underrated, I present you The Kinks
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AND
The Hollies
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323 Belafon  Sep 10, 2014 5:34:32pm

I personally haven’t understood the Nickelback hating. They’re as good as most bands, they entertain their audiences, and they have a couple of good songs. And they obviously do not take themselves too seriously. I don’t change the channel just because they are on, and the image of kids fumbling for the keys when her dad shows up makes me laugh. They are not <insert the greatest band of all time>, but unlike Will Smith trying to win an Oscar, they aren’t trying to be.

But then again, I like the movie Sahara with Matthew McConaughey when I just want to watch a fun movie.

324 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:34:43pm

I’ve never been fond of Elvis…………….

325 CuriousLurker  Sep 10, 2014 5:35:13pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

re: #320 urbanmeemaw

Oh, so it’s confession night now. LOL

326 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:35:19pm

re: #324 HappyWarrior

I’ve never been fond of Elvis…………….

Mrs. Fish’s mom hates Elvis with a passion.

327 Amory Blaine  Sep 10, 2014 5:35:22pm

ratherlistentoNicklebackthan#

328 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 5:36:16pm

The infamous “cable malfunction” when Richard Kiel attended a Nickelback concert.

329 TedStriker  Sep 10, 2014 5:37:00pm

re: #272 Gus

re: #275 HappyWarrior

He was always Mr. Larson (his Happy Gilmore character in the image) to me but RIP to a legend of the Bond films.

Kiel was great in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker, but, frankly, I liked him better in Happy Gilmore and, especially, The Longest Yard:

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330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:37:30pm

tonight’s hashtag fun:

331 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 5:38:25pm

One thing I have always liked about forums, blogs with comments, etc. is for the mentions of music people are listening to currently. I’ve learned a ton of new acts and remembered a lot of the past that I may have missed.

This place is high on the list due to a membership that has pretty good tastes and some experience playing and an owner that was a pro musician and it is a great source. Love the tunes and the vids around these parts.

So, learning about new music is great. I can figure out for myself if I like it or not. No, need to hold anyone else accountable.

332 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:38:52pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Now on the subject of underrated, I present you The Kinks
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The Hollies
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Imma upding your next 10 comments no matter what they say. :)

333 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:39:25pm
334 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:40:10pm

I never liked Joan Baez.

335 Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 10, 2014 5:40:27pm

re: #324 HappyWarrior

I’ve never been fond of Elvis…………….

Presley or Costello?

336 thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2014 5:40:28pm

re: #334 wrenchwench

I never liked Joan Baez.

[Pin drop.]

337 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 5:40:36pm

re: #320 urbanmeemaw

Well, I like some of U2’s music very much, but I have to admit I’ve hated Bob Dylan since 1963. So anyone who wants is free to rip the obnoxious boring baby boomer decoder ring off of my cold dead finger is more than welcome (LOL).

Easy now. Dylan had two good songs.

338 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:42:02pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Easy now. Dylan had two good songs.

And we can fight all night over which two.

Did you hear see his Christmas album? The single most unlistenable CD in existence. Srsly.

339 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:42:07pm
340 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 5:42:14pm

I went to the U2 Zoo TV concert in 1992, to see Pixies - the opening act.

341 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:42:17pm

And look what just showed up on my TL:

342 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 5:43:14pm

re: #334 wrenchwench

I never liked Joan Baez.

Slash. Blech.

343 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:43:39pm
344 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:44:26pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You’re only presidential I guess if you wave your dick around wearing a flight outfit.

345 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 5:44:38pm

re: #325 CuriousLurker

Oh, so it’s confession night now. LOL

Oh, I hope not.

There would be way too many Our Father and Hail Mary prayers and lighting of candles.

/

346 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:45:27pm

Saw U2 for the 1st time in 1983 at the Meadows in Austin. They we’re on their War tour and had The Alarm open for them. It was an outside venue and I was in high school.

Haven’t really cared for U2 this century but that was a really cool memory.

347 Kid A  Sep 10, 2014 5:45:51pm

Hmmm… The FEATURE! STORY! at Gateway Douche is about 43 Toyota trucks “donated by US taxpayers” to ISIS. There’s a tweet there…from 160 days ago. And there’s no link at all to the allegation that the trucks were paid for by the U.S.

Anyone?

348 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 5:46:12pm

re: #335 Iwouldprefernotto

Presley or Costello?

The name. All Elvi everywhere.

349 Kid A  Sep 10, 2014 5:46:39pm

re: #346 b.d.

I’ve seen them several times, the best was when Public Enemy opened for them at the Astrodome in 1991, I think.

350 Belafon  Sep 10, 2014 5:47:04pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’re a wimp if your not willing to scorch a lot of earth to get to the people. Pakistan didn’t really even get angry over Obama getting bin Laden. That didn’t show them whose boss.

351 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 5:47:13pm

re: #255 b.d.

Who has done more for Detroit and Michigan? Obama or Moore?

Auto Industry Bailout an Impressive Success

352 Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2014 5:47:16pm
353 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 5:47:44pm

re: #335 Iwouldprefernotto

Presley or Costello?

Presley.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 10, 2014 5:48:01pm

stonekettle.com

And Jim Wright pounds more nails dead on the head.

355 Belafon  Sep 10, 2014 5:48:04pm

re: #347 Kid A

Isn’t most of that equipment the stuff ISIS acquired when the Iraqi army undressed and ran?

356 ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2014 5:48:04pm

re: #340 goddamnedfrank

I went to the U2 Zoo TV concert in 1992, to see Pixies - the opening act.

Good man.

I never got to see them. I have caught Frank Black and The Catholics.

357 Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2014 5:48:06pm

re: #338 wrenchwench

And we can fight all night over which two.

At graduation day, in 68 or 69, a mass of Columbia students had radios under their robes. At the arranged time WBAI started The Times They Are a’Changin and they all walked out.

So there’s one.

358 Jenner7  Sep 10, 2014 5:49:46pm

Does anyone think that if Congress had given Obama the authority to strike in Syria a year ago, ISIS would be the problem that it is today??

359 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 10, 2014 5:49:53pm

So trolling the Libertarians now

360 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:51:03pm

Last concert I attended was Crosby, Stills and Nash back in the 80s.
Young might have been there, but the audience wasn’t paying attention to the band and making too much noise partying and fighting over seating.
But the video background onstage was nice…involved whales at some point, I think.

361 Kid A  Sep 10, 2014 5:51:08pm

re: #356 ObserverArt

Good man.

I never got to see them. I have caught Frank Black and The Catholics.

Saw the Pixies open up for the Foo Fighters. Yeah it kicked ass, you can hate me.

362 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 5:51:47pm
“[It is] easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaeda, in order to make the generals race there and cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses. … This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” - Osama bin Laden, 2004.
363 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 5:52:08pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

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I like a lot of Nickelback.

364 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:52:17pm

re: #338 wrenchwench

And we can fight all night over which two.

Did you hear see his Christmas album? The single most unlistenable CD in existence. Srsly.

I have to go with All Along the Watchtower.

365 Belafon  Sep 10, 2014 5:52:27pm

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

That was the entire plot of Snow Crash. Sadly, Stephenson said he was trying to be outrageous.

366 b.d.  Sep 10, 2014 5:52:37pm

re: #361 Kid A

Saw the Pixies open up for the Foo Fighters. Yeah it kicked ass, you can hate me.

Clap, clap, clap.

367 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 5:53:03pm

re: #347 Kid A

Hmmm… The FEATURE! STORY! at Gateway Douche is about 43 Toyota trucks “donated by US taxpayers” to ISIS. There’s a tweet there…from 160 days ago. And there’s no link at all to the allegation that the trucks were paid for by the U.S.

Anyone?

No idea who paid for them but obviously we win if we just missile target all the Toyotas…

368 McSpiff  Sep 10, 2014 5:55:49pm

My problem with Nickelback, Bieber, etc is the role the Canadian government played in their initial rise in fame. They got way more airplay in Canada than comparable American artists due to CanCon rules, which are intended to promote Canadian Culture. Great idea, somewhat lack-luster results in my opinion.

369 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 10, 2014 5:56:47pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

That’s what it’s about. He got very offended that I don’t like U2. Obviously some very deep insecurity at work there.

Good grief. Now, I do like U2 but i was in high school & in a punk band when October & Boy came out so I know my biases. I can understand that others might not. That reaction is just silly.

370 wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2014 5:58:14pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to go with All Along the Watchtower.

Yeah, but the covers were all better than Dylan.

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371 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 5:58:56pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to go with All Along the Watchtower.

You don’t like Jimi?

372 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 6:00:15pm

re: #368 McSpiff

My problem with Nickelback, Bieber, etc is the role the Canadian government played in their initial rise in fame. They got way more airplay in Canada than comparable American artists due to CanCon rules, which are intended to promote Canadian Culture. Great idea, somewhat lack-luster results in my opinion.

A little attack the messenger instead of the message in that.

373 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 6:00:35pm

re: #371 b_sharp

You don’t like Jimi?

Well, I was going with Dylan who actually wrote it, but Jimi’s version is the best.

374 HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2014 6:01:20pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I was going with Dylan who actually wrote it, but Jimi’s version is the best.

Jimi’s version is why I fell in love with music. That opening riff even if he wrote it years before I was born is my childhood.

375 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 10, 2014 6:01:21pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I was going with Dylan who actually wrote it, but Jimi’s version is the best.

Even Dylan admitted that and performs it ala Jimi since then

376 Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2014 6:01:44pm

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

So trolling the Libertarians now

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If Libertarians built roads the lane widths would change every few miles, as would the side of the road you drive on.

377 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 6:01:55pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I was going with Dylan who actually wrote it, but Jimi’s version is the best.

Jimi’s version was my first or second 45. I can’t remember is I bought it before or after Fire.

378 McSpiff  Sep 10, 2014 6:02:01pm

re: #372 b_sharp

A little attack the messenger instead of the message in that.

Sorry, I can’t parse that for the life of me. Didn’t intend to attack anyone, just pointing out a government influence where many people don’t know it exists.

379 stpaulbear  Sep 10, 2014 6:04:26pm

re: #368 McSpiff

My problem with Nickelback, Bieber, etc is the role the Canadian government played in their initial rise in fame. They got way more airplay in Canada than comparable American artists due to CanCon rules, which are intended to promote Canadian Culture. Great idea, somewhat lack-luster results in my opinion.

I think my favorite Canadian band is Sloan, and they can’t seem to buy a break in the US. I love that it’s been the same four guys in the band for, what is it, 20 years now. I was at a record store yesterday and saw that they have a new CD out but it is nowhere to be found on Amazon. I know Amazon can be dicks to certain authors and artists, but I’m still surprised that I can’t even find their album when specifically searching for it.

380 McSpiff  Sep 10, 2014 6:06:03pm

re: #379 stpaulbear

I think my favorite Canadian band is Sloan, and they can’t seem to buy a break in the US. I love that it’s been the same four guys in the band for, what is it, 20 years now. I was at a record store yesterday and saw that they have a new CD out but it is nowhere to be found on Amazon. I know Amazon can be dicks to certain authors and artists, but I’m still surprised that I can’t even find their album when specifically searching for it.

Huge Sloan fan. From my hometown actually. Totally agreed, surprised they never made it bigger. Other man is an all time favorite of mine..

381 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 6:11:23pm

re: #378 McSpiff

Sorry, I can’t parse that for the life of me. Didn’t intend to attack anyone, just pointing out a government influence where many people don’t know it exists.

The government supports Canadian entertainers but you say you have a problem with Nickel Back & Bieber because of it.

Neither of them became famous because of the Canadian government. Their fame is in the US, which has nothing to do with CanCon.

382 makeitstop  Sep 10, 2014 6:16:52pm

re: #331 ObserverArt

One thing I have always liked about forums, blogs with comments, etc. is for the mentions of music people are listening to currently. I’ve learned a ton of new acts and remembered a lot of the past that I may have missed.

This place is high on the list due to a membership that has pretty good tastes and some experience playing and an owner that was a pro musician and it is a great source. Love the tunes and the vids around these parts.

So, learning about new music is great. I can figure out for myself if I like it or not. No, need to hold anyone else accountable.

You might like this. This guy is famous as an EDM guy, but he’s been coming around to real instruments and has put out a couple of albums that have gotten some critical acclaim in Europe.

I heard this on the radio the other day and was mesmerized. It’s a long track, but it’s very much worth hanging with. He calls himself Fink. Weird name, big talent.

Youtube Video

383 McSpiff  Sep 10, 2014 6:18:02pm

re: #381 b_sharp

The government supports Canadian entertainers but you say you have a problem with Nickel Back & Bieber because of it.

Neither of them became famous because of the Canadian government. Their fame is in the US, which has nothing to do with CanCon.

Both had significant Canadian radio play prior to their US success. Ask any American who lives within broadcast range of the Canadian boarder where they first either and the answer will be a Canadian station. The CanCon page I linked to specifically mentions Beiber as an example of an artist that produces his music in such a way as to comply with CanCon rules. sorry, says Avril. My mistake. I’ve read the same thing about beiber else where.

384 b_sharp  Sep 10, 2014 6:23:37pm

re: #383 McSpiff

Both had significant Canadian radio play prior to their US success. Ask any American who lives within broadcast range of the Canadian boarder where they first either and the answer will be a Canadian station. The CanCon page I linked to specifically mentions Beiber as an example of an artist that produces his music in such a way as to comply with CanCon rules. sorry, says Avril. My mistake. I’ve read the same thing about beiber else where.

Sorry, but musicians don’t get famous world wide by being famous in Canada. We just aren’t big enough.

I have no idea why Bieber is famous, I think he sucks, but enough people world wide think he is talented enough to sell millions of records.

385 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 10, 2014 6:24:02pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m going to be especially nice tonight and not crack any jokes…

Rob Ford hospitalized: ‘working diagnosis’ is tumour

ISWYDT.

386 De Kolta Chair  Sep 10, 2014 6:29:21pm

re: #385 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

ISWYDT.

In socialist Canada, diagnosis works on you.

I’m officially all out of ideas. Maybe a dose of Rand will pick me up.

387 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2014 6:44:30pm

re: #385 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

ISWYDT.

I tried to be nice.

388 Eventual Carrion  Sep 10, 2014 7:04:41pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Last concert I attended was Crosby, Stills and Nash back in the 80s.
Young might have been there, but the audience wasn’t paying attention to the band and making too much noise partying and fighting over seating.
But the video background onstage was nice…involved whales at some point, I think.

Saw CSN in Houston in ‘84 I think it was. The Band opened for them. Was a great concert.

389 Eventual Carrion  Sep 10, 2014 7:10:16pm

re: #379 stpaulbear

I think my favorite Canadian band is Sloan, and they can’t seem to buy a break in the US. I love that it’s been the same four guys in the band for, what is it, 20 years now. I was at a record store yesterday and saw that they have a new CD out but it is nowhere to be found on Amazon. I know Amazon can be dicks to certain authors and artists, but I’m still surprised that I can’t even find their album when specifically searching for it.

Triumph

390 [deleted]  Sep 12, 2014 7:25:14pm

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