Is St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch Helping Raise Money for Ofc. Darren Wilson?

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St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch

In what seems to be a serious conflict of interest, a T-shirt being sold to raise money for officer Darren Wilson, who gunned down unarmed teenager Michael Brown in a Ferguson street last month, appears to be associated with the St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney, Robert P. McCulloch; here’s the page for the T-shirt: I SUPPORT OFFICER D. WILSON | Teespring.

“I SUPPORT OFFICER D. WILSON” is an officer inspired design to show support for officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department in Missouri. Donations from purchases will be divided between a fund set up for Officer Wilson at gofundme.com as well as The BackStoppers Inc. organization which can be visited at backstoppers.org for more information.

And at the website of backstoppers.org, we find that the Vice President of this company is none other than Robert McCulloch:

(h/t: @gwmizer.)

UPDATE at 9/14/14 5:57:03 pm by Charles Johnson

According to an article at stltoday.com, McCulloch is now actually the President of Backstoppers, Inc.

McCulloch joined former St. Louis County Police Chief Ron Battelle in accepting a $292,000 check from the 27th annual Budweiser Guns ‘N Hoses event earlier today at city hall in St. Louis. McCulloch also will be serving as president of the board for Backstoppers in the 50th anniversary year of his father’s death.

(h/t: @ceye.)

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1 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 4:51:13pm

I get the feeling, more and more, that this is what drove the DoJ to widen their investigation. That there is every appearance of a serious effort behind the scenes to squash this incident and allow Wilson to avoid criminal charges.

2 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 4:52:30pm

Thank you for posting this.

As the people in Ferguson know, justice is an abstract idea.

3 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 4:55:13pm

At some point the powers that be will decide to let Wilson face the justice he deserves, the heat is too high on them.

It needs to be this hot constantly.

4 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 4:56:59pm

re: #3 b.d.

At some point the powers that be will decide to let Wilson face the justice he deserves, the heat is too high on them.

It needs to be this hot constantly.

It will be the Justice Dept.

Gah I hope the FBI got the info they need, i.e. examination of the gun and the cop car. I’m sure Wilson lost his uniform & the gunpowder residue forthwith.

5 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 4:57:17pm

re: #3 b.d.

At some point the powers that be will decide to let Wilson face the justice he deserves, the heat is too high on them.

It needs to be this hot constantly.

To be fair, it seems as though the heat has died down, as it tends to in our 24/7 news cycle. As the nation’s focus has left Ferguson, the trickle of movement from the authorities there has dried up and the protests (when they’ve continued) have failed to get any coverage.

Perhaps when the toxicology results come back it will pick up again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another item that gets buried should the results show anything other than drugs in Brown’s system that could help the argument that he was aggressively violent that afternoon.

6 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 4:59:45pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

To be fair, it seems as though the heat has died down, as it tends to in our 24/7 news cycle. As the nation’s focus has left Ferguson, the trickle of movement from the authorities there has dried up and the protests (when they’ve continued) have failed to get any coverage.

Perhaps when the toxicology results come back it will pick up again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another item that gets buried should the results show anything other than drugs in Brown’s system that could help the argument that he was aggressively violent that afternoon.

I still go back to the twitter account that the red headed child somehow managed to procure - one that is never mentioned for it’s uplifting, positive, life loving tweets.

7 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 14, 2014 5:00:32pm

That’s it he simply must recuse himself and bring in another. Not that I expect him to have that much ethical strength or backbone. I don’t see any two ways about it.

8 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 5:03:13pm

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

That’s it he simply must recuse himself and bring in another. Not that I expect him to have that much ethical strength or backbone. I don’t see any two ways about it.

The fix seemed to be in when he and Nixon said within hours of each other than he’d only go if Nixon asked him to recuse himself, but Nixon will only do so if he asks Nixon to give that order.

9 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 5:03:19pm
10 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 5:04:51pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

To be fair, it seems as though the heat has died down, as it tends to in our 24/7 news cycle. As the nation’s focus has left Ferguson, the trickle of movement from the authorities there has dried up and the protests (when they’ve continued) have failed to get any coverage.

Perhaps when the toxicology results come back it will pick up again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another item that gets buried should the results show anything other than drugs in Brown’s system that could help the argument that he was aggressively violent that afternoon.

Everything has quieted down but if there is no indictment of Wilson then what we have witnessed so far will seem like nothing.

edited because I am dumb

11 gwangung  Sep 14, 2014 5:05:34pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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It’s not surprising CCJ is a raging bigot, GIVEN WHAT HE HIMSELF WRITES.

Derp.

12 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 5:09:29pm

They called you “right-wing” even way back then.

13 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:09:56pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

14 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:10:49pm

re: #10 b.d.

Everything has quieted down but if there is no indictment of Wilson then what we have witnessed so far will seem like nothing.

Suggested alteration.

15 jaunte  Sep 14, 2014 5:10:49pm
16 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 14, 2014 5:12:56pm
17 Dr. Matt  Sep 14, 2014 5:18:10pm
18 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:18:47pm

As an example of just how nasty ‘Rodan’ AKA ‘Daedalus’ AKA ‘Dorkus’ and his crew of Stalkers really are, here are the last two threat titles for his “Diary of Daedalus”:

Charles Johnson’s LGF Ads: Gain Belly Fat And Meet Muslim Sluts On A Warm Saturday Evening

Muslim is the new Black!

Yes, that’s right folks: The Stalkers hate Muslims with a passion. They are a very bigoted lot.

[Waves to the Stalkers.]

19 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 5:18:59pm
20 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 5:19:32pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Dude is trying to monetize off of you.

SPIT

21 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 5:22:01pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Suggested alteration.

Thank you

22 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 5:22:51pm

Re: the prosecutor raising money for Darren Wilson

I am not surprised. It’s the South. Justice works differently if you’re black or brown. Always has.

23 Mattand  Sep 14, 2014 5:26:53pm
24 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:29:03pm

re: #22 Lidane

Re: the prosecutor raising money for Darren Wilson

I am not surprised. It’s the South. Justice works differently if you’re black or brown. Always has.

I need to say this: It is possible that McCulloch doesn’t know that Backstoppers is involved with selling this t-shirt or that he did not participate in the decision to sell it.

It is of course also possible that McCulloch knew and approved, but I’d like to know more before I render judgement.

If McCulloch knew that a organization he is part of was selling those shirts, then he has to recuse himself. If he did not, then he needs to suspend his involvement with Backstoppers until the case is concluded.

25 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 5:32:00pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I need to say this: It is possible that McCulloch doesn’t know that Backstoppers is involved with selling this t-shirt or that he did not participate in the decision to sell it.

It is of course also possible that McCulloch knew and approved, but I’d like to know more before I render judgement.

If McCulloch knew that a organization he is part of was selling those shirts, then he has to recuse himself. If he did not, then he needs to suspend his involvement with Backstoppers until the case is concluded.

Dark, this is a bit like Paul keeping his relationship to his newsletters “ambiguous” until people started pointing out all the racist shit that was being printed in his name, at which point he declared he had no idea that was going on.

I don’t expect McCulloch to give a straight answer on this, I actually expect he’ll avoid the question until someone higher than him on the totem pole takes him to task for it, at which point he’ll declare he had no idea that these t-shirts were being printed and sold to raise money for Wilson.

26 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 5:33:19pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I need to say this: It is possible that McCulloch doesn’t know that Backstoppers is involved with selling this t-shirt or that he did not participate in the decision to sell it.

It is of course also possible that McCulloch knew and approved, but I’d like to know more before I render judgement..

Believe what you want, but at the end of the day, it’s the South. It would not be the first time that a racist prosecutor would actively support a white perp over a black victim.

27 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 5:33:23pm
28 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 5:35:00pm

re: #26 Lidane

Believe what you want, but at the end of the day, it’s the South. It would not be the first time that a racist prosecutor would actively support a white perp over a black victim.

I don’t think anyone has forgotten Rodney King and the lengths the local prosecutor went there to get the cops off, starting with a change of venue to a whiter community.

29 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 5:36:01pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Charles, I’m so glad you tweeted it.

I have such a hard time feeding the red headed child that I can’t re-tweet it.

I apologize.

30 Single-handed sailor  Sep 14, 2014 5:37:56pm

Who’s going down tonight? Da Bears!

31 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 5:38:24pm

So wikileaks.com is outing every country now on Twitter for spying on their citizens. According to the tweets, it like everyone is using German malware rather than an American product.

32 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:38:43pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

I don’t think anyone has forgotten Rodney King and the lengths the local prosecutor went there to get the cops off, starting with a change of venue to a whiter community.

A change of venue was a legitimate measure, since it would have been hard for the officers to get a fair trial in a majority black area. But where the trial was moved to wasn’t kosher; In granting the change of venue the presiding judge specifically directed that the case should be heard in an area outside of the Los Angeles media market. Semi Valley may have its own newspaper, but it gets LA local network stations and thus clearly should not have been chosen.

33 b_sharp  Sep 14, 2014 5:39:16pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Charles, I’m so glad you tweeted it.

I have such a hard time feeding the red headed child that I can’t re-tweet it.

I apologize.

Real redhead child

34 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 5:40:10pm

re: #30 Single-handed sailor

Who’s going down tonight? Da Bears!

Probably. I’m not watch that game or any other football game today or tomorrow, though. The nastiness that came out of the NFL this week makes me sick to my stomach and has left me unable to enjoy football at this time.

35 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 5:41:25pm

Lot of red headed children acting up tonight.

36 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 5:42:40pm
37 Mattand  Sep 14, 2014 5:43:15pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Probably. I’m not watch that game or any other football game today or tomorrow, though. The nastiness that came out of the NFL this week makes me sick to my stomach and has left me unable to enjoy football at this time.

I hear you. Im reevaluating my Eagles watching this year.

38 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 5:56:03pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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I would suggest suing CCJ except for the fact he has nothing and that he’ll be very busy with all of his other court cases coming at him.

39 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 5:56:44pm

re: #38 b.d.

I would suggest suing CCJ except for the fact he has nothing and that he’ll be very busy with all of his other court cases coming at him.

I wouldn’t give that douche a mop job.

40 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 6:00:12pm
41 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 6:00:52pm
42 ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2014 6:01:19pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

I need to say this: It is possible that McCulloch doesn’t know that Backstoppers is involved with selling this t-shirt or that he did not participate in the decision to sell it.

It is of course also possible that McCulloch knew and approved, but I’d like to know more before I render judgement.

If McCulloch knew that a organization he is part of was selling those shirts, then he has to recuse himself. If he did not, then he needs to suspend his involvement with Backstoppers until the case is concluded.

Yes, I can see this as an excuse. Probably that he is only listed with the organization as a token office holder, not official in any capacity, etc. And that’s all it will be, an excuse.

43 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 6:09:15pm
44 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 6:09:21pm

Oh joy. Texas Freedom Network is reporting that more RWNJ fuckery has been found in the social studies books they’re trying to force into Texas public schools.

No details yet but tomorrow should be interesting.

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 14, 2014 6:11:12pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Probably. I’m not watch that game or any other football game today or tomorrow, though. The nastiness that came out of the NFL this week makes me sick to my stomach and has left me unable to enjoy football at this time.

You saw my feelings for this year at least. I don’t know or care about the Packers score for probably the first time in my life.

46 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 6:13:27pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Glenn and Chuck are two sides of the same coin.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 6:15:04pm

re: #45 William Barnett-Lewis

You saw my feelings for this year at least. I don’t know or care about the Packers score for probably the first time in my life.

I’m not waiting that long. I’ll hear a little about the Bears game tomorrow, but I won’t join the conversation. Nor will I watch Monday night football. On Tuesday, I’ll evaluate the situation and decide if I want to reengage or continue to ignore the NFL.

48 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 6:15:05pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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The interesting dynamic is that he can’t support that from liberal/left sites—he has to turn to his true tribe, the RWNJs. Greenwald is a reactionary in a Mao jacket.

49 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Sep 14, 2014 6:15:47pm

re: #42 ObserverArt
He’s only 2nd on the mgmt chart. Why should anyone expect that he should know what they are up to? Or that organization, knowing the VP was the prosecutor in this case, shouldn’t know they were exposing him to a huge conflict of interest at best?

That’s how it is down there, that’s just how they roll. No one ever asked questions before.

50 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 6:17:12pm

re: #45 William Barnett-Lewis

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

To be clear, I’ve got nothing against the good men who play football such as Aaron Rogers and Matt Forte. But I can’t watch even those men play right now, because I can’t get past the nastiness.

51 Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2014 6:21:29pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

I’m not waiting that long. I’ll hear a little about the Bears game tomorrow, but I won’t join the conversation. Nor will I watch Monday night football. On Tuesday, I’ll evaluate the situation and decide if I want to reengage or continue to ignore the NFL.

Yeah. Roosevelt is on right now anyway.

52 PhillyPretzel  Sep 14, 2014 6:24:06pm

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

I am watching that too. whyy.org

53 sagehen  Sep 14, 2014 6:24:50pm

re: #35 b.d.

Lot of red headed children acting up tonight.

That’s because gingers have no souls.

54 Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2014 6:28:13pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

I am watching that too. whyy.org

WQLN here

55 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 6:33:58pm

Football’s been on all day here because the boyfriend has several fantasy leagues going on.

Coincidentally, I’ve had my earbuds in most of the day and I’ve ignored football.

56 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 14, 2014 6:35:41pm

re: #55 Lidane

Football’s been on all day here because the boyfriend has several fantasy leagues going on.

Coincidentally, I’ve had my earbuds in most of the day and I’ve ignored football.

I went diving, and checking facebook to see if my friend and his fiance had their baby yet. (the did just a few hours ago)

I’m not a big football fan, superbowl as a social event, that’s about it.

RBS

57 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 6:40:48pm

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Roosevelt is on right now anyway.

I’ve got almost 2 hours to go. patiently waiting. Well not really patiently.

58 Belafon  Sep 14, 2014 6:43:52pm

re: #56 RealityBasedSteve

Superbowl day is the day everyone celebrates me doing my taxes. They even get a bunch of gladiators together in my honor.

59 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 6:45:34pm
60 lawhawk  Sep 14, 2014 6:48:07pm

Anyone who buys that is dumber than a bag of hammers. It’s a purely political pivot that belies his true nature and intentions.

61 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 6:48:24pm
62 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 6:49:07pm

re: #60 lawhawk

I see we’re on the same page. :)

63 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 6:51:04pm

re: #59 Kid A

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I’ve read about that one and its not very clear. But what is clear is that if he turned he’d have been running right into a Panda Express with a number of people eating within. Given the risk of someone with a blade in close quarters like that, shooting said person in the back might be justified in such a case.

It’s important to understand in this case, unlike in Ferguson, the statements of witnesses are contradicting each other. Also unlike Ferguson, the police have interviewed the witnesses.

A final note: Though the deceased’s mother has said that the sword in question was an unsharpened souvenir, it is almost certain the police could not have known that to be the case. So they had to proceed as if it were a deadly weapon.

64 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 6:51:24pm

re: #60 lawhawk

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Anyone who buys that is dumber than a bag of hammers. It’s a purely political pivot that belies his true nature and intentions.

He’s doing something his old man would never do, in the interest of furthering his ambitions, namely saying what he thinks people outside of the Paulian ranks want to hear. Thing is, I don’t imagine he’ll suffer any blowback for it.

65 jaunte  Sep 14, 2014 6:54:18pm
“…In Iowa, Christian radio host Steve Deace said some are already worried that Paul is trying to appeal to both sides of the argument.”
washingtonpost.com

Shrewd analysis, Steve.

66 PhillyPretzel  Sep 14, 2014 6:56:07pm

The famous statement: “Speak softly and carry a big stick and you will go far.” will be on tomorrow’s episode. Cool. Hmm. Maybe I should bug that co-worker about the misquote… nah it is not worth it.

67 lawhawk  Sep 14, 2014 6:56:41pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Indeed.

68 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 6:57:55pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Rand is a product of the “say anything to get elected” culture. His father was an old-school hard-core racist right wing reactionary, who couldn’t help saying what he really thought even when he tried to hide it.

But underneath it all, they’re cut from the same cloth. Rand is just more deceptive and cunning.

69 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 6:58:34pm

Luap Dnar is an as big fraud as his father.

70 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 7:01:43pm
71 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 7:02:27pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Luap Dnar is an as big fraud as his father.

Luap Nor Rotcod.

72 Kid A  Sep 14, 2014 7:03:34pm

73 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 7:08:47pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Rand is a product of the “say anything to get elected” culture. His father was an old-school hard-core racist right wing reactionary, who couldn’t help saying what he really thought even when he tried to hide it.

But underneath it all, they’re cut from the same cloth. Rand is just more deceptive and cunning.

Ayep, Son of Paul’s biggest selling point is that he’s young and “charismatic,” thus able to sell this bullshit in a manner that his father couldn’t.

74 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:10:23pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

Ayep, Son of Paul’s biggest selling point is that he’s young and “charismatic,” thus able to sell this bullshit in a manner that his father couldn’t.

Charismatic? He looks like a Don Martin character.

75 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 7:11:55pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

Ayep, Son of Paul’s biggest selling point is that he’s young and “charismatic,” thus able to sell this bullshit in a manner that his father couldn’t.

Charisma is what makes me loathe him on sight?

76 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 7:12:05pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Charismatic? He looks like a Don Martin character.

77 jaunte  Sep 14, 2014 7:12:18pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

I sure hope he can get the ring to Mt. Doom before the Nazgul catch him.

78 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 7:12:34pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

Ayep, Son of Paul’s biggest selling point is that he’s young and “charismatic,” thus able to sell this bullshit in a manner that his father couldn’t.

He’s got a mini-mop on his head. Charismatic, only to, gah I don’t even know!

79 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:14:38pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

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Dentist for Opthamologist.

80 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 7:14:46pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Charismatic? He looks like a Don Martin character.

I should have said in comparison to his old man, who comes off as old and bitter because these kids today don’t understand what he’s trying to sell them.

81 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:17:23pm

Jeez—Don Martin predicted the pack of them:

Where have we seen him?

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Who’s this bearded wonder?

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82 goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2014 7:17:37pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Rand is a product of the “say anything to get elected” culture. His father was an old-school hard-core racist right wing reactionary, who couldn’t help saying what he really thought even when he tried to hide it.

But underneath it all, they’re cut from the same cloth. Rand is just more deceptive and cunning.

Rand’s strategy seems to be “pivot early.” He’s defying the historical wisdom that GOP primary candidates need to run to the right and then move to the middle in the general election. If he does win the nomination he thinks he’ll be in a better position, or at least a more plausibly believable one, than his two immediate predecessors were.

He probably figures that his only real competition right now is Ted “Smarmy McPunchFace” Cruz, and can beat him by appealing to a middle that includes financial conservatives and war weary independents. The entire strategy is cynical as all fuck.

83 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 7:18:01pm

It appears Miss Colorado doesn’t know a whole hell of a lot about Colorado.

84 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 7:19:31pm
85 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 7:20:18pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Rand’s strategy seems to be “pivot early.” He’s defying the historical wisdom that GOP primary candidates need to run to the right and then move to the middle in the general election. If he does win the nomination he thinks he’ll be in a better position, or at least a more plausibly believable one, than his two immediate predecessors were.

He probably figures that his only real competition right now is Ted “Smarmy McPunchFace” Cruz, and can beat him by appealing to a middle that includes financial conservatives and war weary independents. The entire strategy is cynical as all fuck.

The GOP overall strategy still seems to be preparing to run against Hillary in 2016. Aqua Buddah’s approach looks like it’s going to be selling himself as the “common sense” candidate, suggesting that compared to the communist/socialist Clinton, he’s a “common sense” candidate who just wants what everyday Americans want.

86 Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2014 7:22:15pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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87 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:22:39pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Rand’s strategy seems to be “pivot early.” He’s defying the historical wisdom that GOP primary candidates need to run to the right and then move to the middle in the general election. If he does win the nomination he thinks he’ll be in a better position, or at least a more plausibly believable one, than his two immediate predecessors were.

He probably figures that his only real competition right now is Ted “Smarmy McPunchFace” Cruz, and can beat him by appealing to a middle that includes financial conservatives and war weary independents. The entire strategy is cynical as all fuck.

Paul and Cruz both have ‘daddy problems’. It would take about 4 thirty-second video shots to send sane people running for their Democratic voter registration table.

88 b.d.  Sep 14, 2014 7:23:57pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

It appears Miss Colorado doesn’t know a whole hell of a lot about Colorado.

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GIVE HER A BREAK!!!

89 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 7:29:15pm

re: #88 b.d.

GIVE HER A BREAK!!!

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Hey, at least she ain’t Miss Teen South Carolina 2007.

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90 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 7:31:43pm
91 goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2014 7:34:20pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Paul and Cruz both have ‘daddy problems’. It would take about 4 thirty-second video shots to send sane people running for their Democratic voter registration table.

Rand also has a problem in the primary if he’s seen as betraying his family’s brand and libertarian ideology. He’s already trying to distance himself from his prior statements against Title II of the ‘64 Civil Rights Act, mostly by lying and pretending he didn’t make them. He’s hoping that the tenthers will hold their noses and vote for him anyway, but he’s going to be running against Cruz who will have the reliable votes of the hardcore religious right.

It’s kind of ridiculous to be speculating this far in advance, but none of the other candidates even seem to stand a chance.

92 Dark_Falcon  Sep 14, 2014 7:34:33pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Paul and Cruz both have ‘daddy problems’. It would take about 4 thirty-second video shots to send sane people running for their Democratic voter registration table.

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

93 readyfreddy815  Sep 14, 2014 7:34:48pm

The irony of this story is that Nixon and McCulloch are Democrats. This leaves the rightwing loons in a difficult position. Do they root for the white cop and in turn, for the decisions of Democrats, whom they dearly loathe? Or, do they root for the “black thug” whom they also dearly hate. It’s the same kind of catch-22 that has them supporting KGB Putin and the sticky predicament of who to support in the Iraq/Syria/Al Qaeda/ISIS/etc quagmire. That’s what happens when all of your decisions are made based on hate.

94 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 7:35:18pm
95 jamesfirecat  Sep 14, 2014 7:36:24pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

Has the man openly repudiated their father and said something to the affect of “Look we have a first amendment in this nation my father is free to say whatever he wants, even if I don’t with a lick of what he says?” Because when children keep mum and nodd along with the crazy shit their parrent’s say rather than calling then out on it, yes it is far to penalize them for it.

96 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 7:37:06pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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97 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:38:50pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

They have the option of distancing themselves from their fathers’ followers. That would be even more lethal.

98 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 7:39:26pm

Charles C. Johnson and Glenn Greenwald using the same stalker website as evidence of terrorist ties to our gracious host.

The circle of derp has been completed.

99 goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2014 7:40:34pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

He should definitely be criticized when he says largely the same things.

Cruz and Paul have espoused the exact same religious & free market fanaticism as their fathers.

100 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 7:44:27pm

“I know he’s not a pig fucker religious nut, I just want to hear him say he’s not a pig fucker religious nut.”

101 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 7:58:18pm
102 Stanley Sea  Sep 14, 2014 7:58:24pm

Have a good rest of Sunday LGF. I’m Roosevelting for the rest of the night.

103 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 14, 2014 8:01:12pm

“Now Look! That Damned Cowboy Is President of the United States”

Senator Mark Hanna

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:12:31pm
105 Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2014 8:12:45pm

re: #101 Gus

YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER WORN A NIKE HAT?” WTF was that all about?

Nike (Greek)—->Victoria (Latin)—->Queen Victoria—->Great grandmother in-law of Czar Nicholas II—->killed at the order of Lenin.

You’re a Communist.

106 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:13:55pm

I am back at the hotel now. It was a beautiful Bar Mitzvah. I couldn’t connect to Teh Internets from there.

107 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 14, 2014 8:18:06pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

It will be the Justice Dept.

Gah I hope the FBI got the info they need, i.e. examination of the gun and the cop car. I’m sure Wilson lost his uniform & the gunpowder residue forthwith.

Wilson’s going to be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

There ain’t no statute of limitations on homicide.

108 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 8:18:18pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

Barack Obama’s father abandoned him when he was a toddler and never had any role in his life after that before dying in 1982. What his father may or may not say is a moot point.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:18:47pm

My makhutenesteh (that’s Yiddish for “my child’s in-law”, there is no English word for it) sat next to me and DID. NOT. STOP. TALKING. THE. WHOLE. TIME. I just guzzled Perrier & ate pastry.

110 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 8:19:34pm
111 Amory Blaine  Sep 14, 2014 8:19:40pm

Those are some beautiful pastries.

112 Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2014 8:20:01pm
113 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:21:17pm

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

Dayammm!! Dems some confections!

114 Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2014 8:22:14pm
115 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:22:37pm

I ate a little pastry for each one of you.

116 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:24:14pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

I didn’t know I was a troll! I guess some intensive behavior modification is in order.

117 Varek Raith  Sep 14, 2014 8:24:20pm

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I ate a little pastry for each one of you.

Nice try.
:P

118 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:26:51pm

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I ate a little pastry for each one of you.

Youtube Video

119 Lidane  Sep 14, 2014 8:30:24pm

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I ate a little pastry for each one of you.

120 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:33:07pm

Yeah, good luck with that in the United States.

121 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 14, 2014 8:40:16pm

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

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I know it’s quibbling, but the mane on equidae stops at the withers.

122 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 8:40:55pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Should a man be penalized for nutty things his father says? I recall people arguing not where Barack Obama was concerned.

Well when Cruz calls his father a mentor and when Rand Paul made his bones by campaigning for his father for president, I think it is fair game. I understand your point but Cruz/Paul are different animals than your usual presidential candidate fathers and frankly their views mirror their kooky fathers too.

123 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:42:12pm

Zedushka for some reason started shrieking with laughter and he pointed, gasping for breath, at the sign on the back of our hotel room door.

I took a picture but it didn’t come out too good but here is what it says:

4. (1) No innkeeper is liable to make good to any guest of his any loss or injury to goods brought to his inn, not being a horse or any live animal, or any gear appertaining thereto, or a carriage, to a greater amount than the sum of $40

It’s Innkeeper’s Statutes of Ontario Canada translated to Chinese & then back to English in 1906.

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 14, 2014 8:43:12pm

I admit I did not read the plaque on the door because it was posted above my line of vision.

125 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 8:46:52pm

re: #108 Lidane

Barack Obama’s father abandoned him when he was a toddler and never had any role in his life after that before dying in 1982. What his father may or may not say is a moot point.

Right, there’s that too. Barack Obama, Sr had very little influence on his son. Meanwhile, Rand did start by campaigning for his father for president he definitely used his father’s name to run for higher office and succeeded. Ted Cruz has called his father his mentor and cited him as an influence. Plus these guys as I said have views that mirror their fathers.

126 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:55:03pm

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127 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 8:55:46pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

Wait, WHAT?!? There was a fireball passing over Virginia and Pennsylvania tonight? Any witnesses? HappyWarrior? timothy_watson?

No was busy watching the O’s beat the Yankees.

128 A Mom Anon  Sep 14, 2014 8:55:57pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Barack Obama’s father never held office nor ran for anything either. Nor was he a part of his son’s life in any real significant day to day way. There’s no comparison there. No there, there as it were.

129 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 8:57:00pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

No was busy watching the O’s beat the Yankees.

It was a @TheTweetOfGod prank, I’m sure. He posted a tweet and deleted it less than 5 minutes later. Hence, #126 is deleted.

130 A Mom Anon  Sep 14, 2014 8:59:24pm

Also, the first part of The Roosevelts was really good. And Ken Burns is really a national treasure, he should be writing this country’s history curriculum. Amazing. If you’ve never seen The National Parks: America’s Best Idea, you need to, another great series.

And with that I’m off to end a very long day with some shut eye. Night Lizards.

131 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:00:03pm

re: #128 A Mom Anon

Barack Obama’s father never held office nor ran for anything either. Nor was he a part of his son’s life in any real significant day to day way. There’s no comparison there. No there, there as it were.

Right definitely. The senior Cruz and Paul aren’t your typical father of the candidate. Speaking of sins of the father though, I do recall some on the right trying to use the fact that Al Gore, Sr voted against the CRA of ‘64 against his son which is funny given that their party used the fact that Gore was fairly liberal by southern standards on civil rights to beat him in the election that he lost.

132 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:00:52pm

re: #130 A Mom Anon

Also, the first part of The Roosevelts was really good. And Ken Burns is really a national treasure, he should be writing this country’s history curriculum. Amazing. If you’ve never seen The National Parks: America’s Best Idea, you need to, another great series.

And with that I’m off to end a very long day with some shut eye. Night Lizards.

Good to hear that. I DVRed it and Boardwalk Empire since the O’s were on tonight rather than the usual afternoon fare. ESPN really wanted to see Derek Jeter go 0-4 and Kelly Johnson get a walk off hit for the O’s.

133 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:02:51pm

BY the way, is the Roosevelts on again tomorrow night?

134 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:04:07pm

What say you Lizards who listened to a lot of 90s music?

135 Jenner7  Sep 14, 2014 9:09:31pm

72% Of Americans Disapprove Of Republicans In Congress

huffingtonpost.com

Then vote them out! Gah!

136 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:11:17pm

re: #134 teleskiguy

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What say you Lizards who listened to a lot of 90s music?

Its hard to top Temple of the Dog

Youtube Video

137 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:11:48pm

re: #135 Jenner7

72% Of Americans Disapprove Of Republicans In Congress

huffingtonpost.com

Then vote them out! Gah!

Then vote their majority in the House out. I hate voters sometimes. They say they disapprove of Congress yet Congresscritters get easily re-elected. Now I blame some of it on Gerrymandering but if voters really disapprove of Congress, stop acting like “My Congressman is fine, it’s just the other guys that suck.” I want Boehner as minority leader next year.

138 sagehen  Sep 14, 2014 9:12:37pm

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

My makhutenesteh (that’s Yiddish for “my child’s in-law”, there is no English word for it) sat next to me and DID. NOT. STOP. TALKING. THE. WHOLE. TIME. I just guzzled Perrier & ate pastry.

Can also be translated as “my grandchild’s other grandparents, the ones we’re better than.”

139 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:13:25pm

re: #136 Kragar

Its hard to top Temple of the Dog

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Totally agree. If Andrew Wood had lived…

140 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:16:19pm
141 sagehen  Sep 14, 2014 9:17:02pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Well when Cruz calls his father a mentor and when Rand Paul made his bones by campaigning for his father for president, I think it is fair game. I understand your point but Cruz/Paul are different animals than your usual presidential candidate fathers and frankly their views mirror their kooky fathers too.

Bush the Lesser made a point of distancing himself from *his* father (“no, I don’t ask him for advice. I ask another father”) — and he didn’t even have anything to be embarassed about. On both foreign policy and economics, he wanted us all to know he’d be different than his dad.

Neither Cruz nor Paul are willing to make that separation.

142 klys  Sep 14, 2014 9:17:04pm

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

My makhutenesteh (that’s Yiddish for “my child’s in-law”, there is no English word for it) sat next to me and DID. NOT. STOP. TALKING. THE. WHOLE. TIME. I just guzzled Perrier & ate pastry.

I have in-laws like that too.

>.>

143 Franklin  Sep 14, 2014 9:18:12pm

RT’d by Brown Family Atty:

144 Single-handed sailor  Sep 14, 2014 9:18:38pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Then vote their majority in the House out. I hate voters sometimes. They say they disapprove of Congress yet Congresscritters get easily re-elected. Now I blame some of it on Gerrymandering but if voters really disapprove of Congress, stop acting like “My Congressman is fine, it’s just the other guys that suck.” I want Boehner as minority leader next year.

My Congressman and both Senators are Democrats. I’m pretty happy with that. I’d like to get DiFi out, but nobody will fund or back a Democrat against her.

145 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:19:34pm

re: #141 sagehen

Bush the Lesser made a point of distancing himself from *his* father (“no, I don’t ask him for advice. I ask another father”) — and he didn’t even have anything to be embarassed about. On both foreign policy and economics, he wanted us all to know he’d be different than his dad.

Neither Cruz nor Paul are willing to make that separation.

You know, maybe he should have. I am not a huge H.W Bush fan but I think he was better than his son and Reagan.

146 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:20:59pm

re: #144 Single-handed sailor

My Congressman and both Senators are Democrats. I’m pretty happy with that. I’d like to get DiFi out, but nobody will fund or back a Democrat against her.

I’m pretty happy too. Got two solid senators and I have a chance to get a Democrat as Congressman. I guess my point is, Americans say they disapprove of the Republicans in Congress yet most of them will be back and that’s just showing me that Americans who say that about Congress either aren’t voting or are doing what I described.

147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 14, 2014 9:22:28pm

re: #144 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, I’d like to see feinstein gone as well but she has the party’s backing here and no way they’ll let anyone challenge her from within.

148 sagehen  Sep 14, 2014 9:22:31pm

re: #re: #133 HappyWarrior

BY the way, is the Roosevelts on again tomorrow night?

133 HappyWarrior

BY the way, is the Roosevelts on again tomorrow night?

Every night this week. 14 hours in total.

149 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:23:41pm

attn: Kragar

150 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:24:05pm

re: #148 sagehen

#133 HappyWarrior

133 HappyWarrior

Every night this week. 14 hours in total.

Oh. Excellent. By the way, anyone know what the best bio on TR is? I read the H.W Brands one on FDR which I thought was excellent. I thought Brands was fair. Don’t know if Brands is liberal, conservative, or what but he was fair to FDR.

151 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:24:39pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

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I honestly consider Floyd to be highly overrated

152 Jenner7  Sep 14, 2014 9:27:10pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

Loves me some Tool. They have a new album coming out soon.

153 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:27:29pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

attn: Kragar

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They played 1 or 2 gigs while working on the Album, and the guys have gotten together a few times at either Pearl Jam or Soundgarden shows and played some of the TotD stuff

154 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:27:44pm

Hmmm Bojack Horseman or The Roosevelts.

155 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:28:05pm

You know I like them but I always found Nirvana a little overrated.

156 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:36:27pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

You know I like them but I always found Nirvana a little overrated.

I like them more now than I did back then

157 HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2014 9:37:47pm

re: #156 Kragar

I like them more now than I did back then

Wasn’t really paying attention much when they first got big. I mean I like em and there’s no doubt that there was talent but I dunno. Maybe need to listen more than just Nevermind.

158 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:40:37pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t really paying attention much when they first got big. I mean I like em and there’s no doubt that there was talent but I dunno. Maybe need to listen more than just Nevermind.

This was the song that pushed me over and made me admit I really liked them:

Youtube Video

159 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:42:54pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t really paying attention much when they first got big. I mean I like em and there’s no doubt that there was talent but I dunno. Maybe need to listen more than just Nevermind.

This song is the essence of Nirvana, IMHO.

Youtube Video

160 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 9:51:03pm

One of my favorite albums from the 90s

Youtube Video

161 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 9:55:39pm

re: #160 Kragar

One of my favorite albums from the 90s

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The Sound of White Noise, first Anthrax album I’ve ever listened to. Good one.

162 BeachDem  Sep 14, 2014 9:58:40pm

re: #26 Lidane

Believe what you want, but at the end of the day, it’s the South. It would not be the first time that a racist prosecutor would actively support a white perp over a black victim.

The pot-bellied copper shook hands all around,
And joked with the rednecks who came into town
And they swore that the murderer soon would be found
And they laughed as they spat their tobacco.

163 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 10:02:44pm

re: #161 teleskiguy

The Sound of White Noise, first Anthrax album I’ve ever listened to. Good one.

Think I’ve seen Anthrax 5 or 6 times live. They’re a really underrated band.

Youtube Video

164 teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2014 10:09:06pm

re: #163 Kragar

Think I’ve seen Anthrax 5 or 6 times live. They’re a really underrated band.

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I’ve always thought that Anthrax had more depth and chops than the other big thrash metal bands like Slayer and Metallica. We’re on the the same page, brother! :-D

165 The War TARDIS  Sep 14, 2014 10:12:41pm

re: #16 Rightwingconspirator

I’m going to try to write something in the morning against this bearded waste of flesh tomorrow.

166 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 10:16:41pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

I’ve always thought that Anthrax had more depth and chops than the other big thrash metal bands like Slayer and Metallica. We’re on the the same page, brother! :-D

Even their earlier thrash stuff blew the other metal bands away:

Youtube Video

167 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 10:18:40pm

And Persistence of Time needs to be a part of everyone’s music collection

168 Snarknado!  Sep 14, 2014 10:18:46pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Oh. Excellent. By the way, anyone know what the best bio on TR is? I read the H.W Brands one on FDR which I thought was excellent. I thought Brands was fair. Don’t know if Brands is liberal, conservative, or what but he was fair to FDR.

Doris Kearns Goodwin has a newish book on Teddy (also Taft) called The Bully Pulpit. I haven’t read it yet, but her reputation is such that it’s worth considering.

169 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2014 10:33:30pm

So we’re doing a charity drive of sorts at work. Employees are being encouraged to voluntarily donate to charity in exchange for entries in prize drawings, work related bonuses (i.e. a 2 hour lunch), gift cards for local businesses and such.

My manager recommended I donate to the AFA.

No joke.

170 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2014 10:34:33pm

Also I’m not sure if this has or hasn’t been posted here yet but it’s one of the newest “DUR HUR” wingnut memes:

171 CuriousLurker  Sep 14, 2014 10:37:39pm

Ugh, I finally got all most of my email accounts set up and software reinstalled & reconfigured on the new desktop & laptop—took the whole freaking weekend.

The “E” key on this wireless HP keyboard is making a weird clicking noise. Also, the keys are too close together, so I keep fat-fingering everything I try to type. Aggravation. Time to go back to my ugly but practical (washable) wired keyboard until I can find a bluetooth one that has a Windows key, isn’t butt-ugly, and doesn’t cost a small fortune. #FirstWorldProblems

Anyhoo, I just came by to drop this off ‘cause it made me think of you guys:

Later, lizards.

172 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 10:39:53pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

[Neil deGrasse Tyson
If your belief system is not founded in an objective reality, you should not be making decisions that affect other people.]

Yeah, good luck with that in the United States.

Hmm. Suddenly Tyson is more radical than Dawkins and Hitchens taken together.

173 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 10:48:52pm
174 ausador  Sep 14, 2014 10:51:18pm

re: #172 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Hmm. Suddenly Tyson is more radical than Dawkins and Hitchens taken together.

175 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 10:53:39pm

re: #174 ausador

Yet it is Tyson who apparently thinks no religious people (incl., say, Obama) should be making any decisions affecting other people.

176 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 10:55:54pm

re: #175 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yet it is Tyson who apparently thinks no religious people (incl., say, Obama) should be making any decisions affecting other people.

Maybe. Plenty of atheists have a belief system not grounded on objective reality.

177 ausador  Sep 14, 2014 10:56:51pm

re: #175 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yet it is Tyson who apparently thinks no religious people (incl., say, Obama) should be making any decisions affecting other people.

It would be better with a qualifier of some sort I agree. Such as they shouldn’t be making decisions based solely upon non-objective beliefs. But twitter is much better for soundbite style thoughts than it is for nuanced discussion.

178 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 10:56:53pm
179 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 10:57:29pm

Oh noz! I posted a Tweet from a libertarian. Anyway. Sounded good.

180 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 10:58:18pm

Irony of course that being a libertarian (i.e. lots of Randian OBJECTIVISM) would say that.

181 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 10:58:32pm

re: #176 Gus

Maybe. Plenty of atheists have a belief system not grounded on objective reality.

That too, but all religious, no matter how liberal, are automatically out. That’s more extreme than anything Dawkins or Hitchens, these supposed pat robertsons of atheism, have ever suggested.

182 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 10:59:03pm

re: #178 Gus

That’s much closer to objective reality :)

183 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 10:59:57pm

re: #179 Gus

Oh noz! I posted a Tweet from a libertarian. Anyway. Sounded good.

Let’s not ad hominem. When a libertarian is right, she is right. May not happen often…

184 Kragar  Sep 14, 2014 11:00:52pm

re: #183 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Let’s not ad hominem. When a libertarian is right, she is right. May not happen often…

But I already shredded the pillows and put the tar on the fire

185 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 11:02:12pm

But yeah. Plenty of atheists are “lost in space” too. And plenty of religious folks are not. And vice versa.

186 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 11:04:43pm

re: #185 Gus

But yeah. Plenty of atheists are “lost in space” too. And plenty of religious folks are not. And vice versa.

That’s why I don’t like what Tyson wrote.

187 Snarknado!  Sep 14, 2014 11:06:53pm

I don’t think Tyson’s views are as narrow as that — tweets, as someone said, aren’t good on nuance. He’s doesn’t seem to mind if scientists believe in God, for example — which that tweet, strictly interpreted, wouldn’t allow.

188 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 11:08:54pm

re: #186 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s why I don’t like what Tyson wrote.

I suppose. A lot of people don’t like what I Tweet too. :D

189 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 11:09:34pm

re: #187 Snarknado!

I don’t think Tyson’s views are as narrow as that — tweets, as someone said, aren’t good on nuance. He’s doesn’t seem to mind if scientists believe in God, for example — which that tweet, strictly interpreted, wouldn’t allow.

Yes, I know Tyson isn’t really a fire-breathing extremist. He just fell into the twitter trap. If you can’t do it with nuance, and the nuance is necessary, don’t do it.

190 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 11:12:20pm

re: #189 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He just fell into the twitter trap.

PS: just like Dawkins.

191 Snarknado!  Sep 14, 2014 11:14:01pm

re: #189 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yes, I know Tyson isn’t really a fire-breathing extremist. He just fell into the twitter trap. If you can’t do it with nuance, and the nuance is necessary, don’t do it.

Or the bon mot trap. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t.

I have to get up early tomorrow (ugh), so night all.

192 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 11:17:49pm

That’s what godless mathematicians are teaching our children! Down with math, the tool of Satan!

193 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 14, 2014 11:49:55pm
Nontheist Quakers (also known as nontheist Friends) are those who affiliate with, identify with, engage in, or affirm Quaker practices and processes, but who do not necessarily accept a belief in a theistic understanding of God, a Supreme Being, the divine, the soul or the supernatural. Like traditional Friends, nontheist Friends are actively interested in realizing centered peace, simplicity, integrity, community, equality, love, joy, and social justice in the Society of Friends and beyond.
194 Gus  Sep 14, 2014 11:54:25pm

Patriots.

195 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 12:00:19am
196 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 12:02:19am

re: #194 Gus

Is it just the money, or is that some born-again with a crush on the Russian dictator?

197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 12:46:08am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

You know, maybe he should have. I am not a huge H.W Bush fan but I think he was better than his son and Reagan.

He would be booted out of the Party as a RINO these days.

198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 12:47:10am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

You know I like them but I always found Nirvana a little overrated.

There was one image of them that guaranteed their fame: Curt Cobain in his jeans with the cuffs let down. That caused every alienated teenager in the world to identify with them.

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 12:56:29am

re: #196 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Is it just the money, or is that some born-again with a crush on the Russian dictator?

I suspect it’s mostly money. And the crush on Putin is just an expression of Obama Derangement Syndrome. It will end if a GOP President ever comes to have any conflicts with Putin.

200 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 1:54:56am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I suspect it’s mostly money. And the crush on Putin is just an expression of Obama Derangement Syndrome. It will end if a GOP President ever comes to have any conflicts with Putin.

It seems to me that another Bush-like president will no longer be enough for those types.

201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 1:57:06am

Not to mention that Bush loved him some Putin. And Putin openly took Bush’s side in the 2004 election, maybe understanding that their kinds of conservatism are related and it would be easier to deal with a fellow conservative.

202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 2:00:50am

Putin had also not annexed any territory back then. I suspect that he will continue to butt heads with US foreign policy interests regardless of who is in the White House.

203 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 3:27:42am

Kanye steps on his own crank once again…

204 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 3:33:27am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Putin had also not annexed any territory back then. I suspect that he will continue to butt heads with US foreign policy interests regardless of who is in the White House.

This. Remember that George W. Bush soured on Putin a great deal after Russia moved against Georgia in 2008. That doesn’t come up much, mostly because GWB has kept a low profile since leaving office, but he’s made it clear enough.

205 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 3:38:40am

re: #203 ausador

Kanye steps on his own crank once again…

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I’d prefer to call it “tripping over his oversized ego”, myself.

206 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:38:45am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

This. Remember that George W. Bush soured on Putin a great deal after Russia moved against Georgia in 2008. That doesn’t come up much, mostly because GWB has kept a low profile since leaving office, but he’s made it clear enough.

Sure, Putin’s destruction of democracy in Russia was nothing. Not a cause to “sour up” on him or anything. And “moving against Georgia” was completely unpredictable, LOL.

207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:39:45am

re: #203 ausador

Youtube Video

208 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 3:39:48am

re: #203 ausador

Kanye steps on his own crank once again…

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The fan should have asked him if he likes fishsticks.

209 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 3:41:12am

re: #207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Beat me by three seconds. This aggression will not stand, man.

210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:42:59am

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Beat me by three seconds. This aggression will not stand, man.

Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

211 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 3:43:05am

re: #206 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sure, Putin’s destruction of democracy in Russia was nothing. Not a cause to “sour up” on him or anything. And “moving against Georgia” was completely unpredictable, LOL.

I’m not sure how much Putin’s democracy wrecking Bush noticed, Sergey. It wasn’t at the top of his priority stack, coming in well below Iraq and Afghanistan. not to mention some of the domestic matters that still had to be dealt with.

Also, what would a more confrontational approach have changed?

212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 3:46:08am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

I’m not sure how much Putin’s democracy wrecking Bush noticed, Sergey. It wasn’t at the top of his priority stack, coming in well below Iraq and Afghanistan. not to mention some of the domestic matters that still had to be dealt with.

Also, what would a more confrontational approach have changed?

I recall that McCain was really big on confronting Putin over Georgia, even going so far as to get one of his interns to draft him a statement containing information culled word for word from the Wikipedia entry on the country…

213 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 3:53:01am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recall that McCain was really big on confronting Putin over Georgia, even going so far as to get one of his interns to draft him a statement containing information culled word for word from the Wikipedia entry on the country…

John McCain hates Vladimir Putin, in substantial part because of the way communist regime enforcers of the kind Putin started out as brutalized McCain and his fellow POWs during the Vietnam War. McCain saw too much back then to be fooled by someone of that ilk again.

214 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:54:49am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

I’m not sure how much Putin’s democracy wrecking Bush noticed, Sergey.

Really? You’re not making him any compliments with this absurd excuse. Bush was not the smartest guy, but he wasn’t a blithering idiot your argument makes him to be.

Also, what would a more confrontational approach have changed?

Not enabling him and seeing a good soul in his eyes would have been quite enough, thank you very much.

215 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:58:09am

Bush was very useful for Putin.

theguardian.com

216 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 3:58:23am

“Weak” President that can’t stand up to Russian territorial aggression? IOKIYAR!

Flashback, 2008: When A Russian Invasion Made Fox News Shrug

217 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 4:12:32am
218 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 4:21:17am

So the next time some Right winger brings up campaign contributions by George Soros as a boogeyman…

219 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:30:53am

re: #218 ausador

So the next time some Right winger brings up campaign contributions by George Soros as a boogeyman…

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That graph doesn’t mean anything related to what you were saying, as George Soros doesn’t contribute through unions. I’d also make the point that much of the contribution unions make to campaigns is non-monetary. Union members man phone banks and perform get-out-the-vote functions, duties which are not monetized but which are crucial.

220 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:34:22am

re: #218 ausador

So the next time some Right winger brings up campaign contributions by George Soros as a boogeyman…

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And lastly, it needs to be said that not all Koch Industries and union spending is in opposition. A great many many workers at Koch companies belong to unions and non-government unions often support Koch projects that they feel will result in additional union jobs.

So the relationship between Charles and David Koch and organized labor is far more complicated and a good bit better, than can be depicted in a single graph.

221 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:51:40am

Great, union thugs broke the thread.

222 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 4:55:17am

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Did you perhaps miss the (Soros: $1M) in the tweet D.F.?

Soros the boogeyman, $1,000,000 in campaign contribution in 2012, Koch brothers organizations $412,670,666 in 2012.

223 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:56:31am

Soros is a good guy.

224 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 5:01:13am
225 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:04:59am

Morning Lizards

226 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 5:06:34am

Chris Hedges is an execrable Putin’s shill.

truthdig.com

227 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 5:07:35am

re: #223 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Soros is a good guy.

The far right wants to pretend he wasn’t the guy funding all those anti-communist groups for so long. He truly is one of the good guys, diametrically opposed to authoritarians of the left and the right.

228 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:16:05am

Only in Ohio:
Officials beg pastor, strip club owner to end feud

The Coshocton Tribune (http://ohne.ws/1uIX9t4 ) reports the letter to New Beginnings Ministries Pastor Bill Dunfee and strip club owner Thomas George was signed by the city law director, the county prosecutor and the sheriff.

Dunfee and men from the Warsaw church have protested outside the Foxhole North strip club in New Castle. The business has responded with Sunday morning protests outside the church, including a recent one by topless dancers.

229 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:18:13am

More on Coshocton County, Ohio
LOCALFormer Longaberger weaver Tony Bible creates art

some very cool stuff

230 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:20:00am

re: #222 ausador

Did you perhaps miss the (Soros: $1M) in the tweet D.F.?

Soros the boogeyman, $1,000,000 in campaign contribution in 2012, Koch brothers organizations $412,670,666 in 2012.

Yes, Soros isn’t perfect, yet, there is no comparison.

Koch Bros are beyond boogeyman.

231 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 5:23:46am
232 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 5:24:59am

It amazes me that they love the Citizens United decision yetvwhime about Soros and unions.

233 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 5:26:22am

74 years ago

235 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:33:23am

OMG, I am fallng back asleep as I read.

bbl

236 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 5:41:31am

re: #234 FemNaziBitch

They are also now backing organized “Libertarian” front groups and funding the teaching of libertarian curriculums in our colleges. They are successfully pushing a lot of the new interest in “Free Market (corporate) solutions” vs government control.

They already have the Right in their pocket so now they are going after the youth of the Left as well. :(

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 5:47:47am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Oh. Excellent. By the way, anyone know what the best bio on TR is? I read the H.W Brands one on FDR which I thought was excellent. I thought Brands was fair. Don’t know if Brands is liberal, conservative, or what but he was fair to FDR.

Edmund Morris wrote a 3 volume biography of Roosevelt.

Morris, Edmund (1979), The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt, 1. To 1901; vol 2: Theodore Rex 1901-1909 (2001); vol 3: Colonel Roosevelt (2010);

The first volume, published in 1979, won a Pulitzer. And I think some earlier PBS specials on Roosevelt drew heavily upon these. At at least used the title “Theodore Rex” for one of the episodes.

238 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 5:48:05am

OH HAI. Packing up to drive home. Had MOAR LITTLE PIES for breakfast.

239 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 5:49:22am

Is Ted Ctuz too stupid to chew his own food?

240 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 5:50:19am

Good Dog,

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:54:28am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Good Dog,

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yikes!

242 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 5:55:31am

re: #237 Feline Fearless Leader

Edmund Morris wrote a 3 volume biography of Roosevelt.

Morris, Edmund (1979), The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt, 1. To 1901; vol 2: Theodore Rex 1901-1909 (2001); vol 3: Colonel Roosevelt (2010);

The first volume, published in 1979, won a Pulitzer. And I think some earlier PBS specials on Roosevelt drew heavily upon these. At at least used the title “Theodore Rex” for one of the episodes.

Sounds good. I typically prefer single volumes but I’d make an exception.

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 5:58:47am

Good morning Lizards.

With the lower overnight temps it looks like some warm-loving critters are looking for heated digs. Got up this morning to find a large cockroach in the main room of the apartment. It had been de-legged and otherwise mangled and thus was deceased. Neither furry hunter took credit for the kill, but given that both of them are taking extra time checking out the baseboards in the one bathroom I guess that is where they discovered it. (And I guess the cockroach discovered that it has decreased scuttling power once the cats tore a few legs off.)

Not a new thing. In the house I had in western PA a few decades back the Siamese hunted field crickets and roughly did the same deal to them. I’d find a trail of legs leading to a deceased cricket chassis. Said crickets were also the reason the neighborhood wolf spiders were monsters - and the cats left those alone.

244 Frenchy  Sep 15, 2014 6:00:27am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Wow. Someone really had on their thinking cap for that one.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:07:13am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Sounds good. I typically prefer single volumes but I’d make an exception.

For major historical figures I tend to allow for longer biographies (or multi-volume) in order to give the author the chance to spend time on the upbringing and developing years of the figure that shorter works cut out. TR deserves this in spades due to some of his youthful adventures.

As a comparison there is a one volume version of Freeman’s biography of Robert E Lee. Freeman’s full biography is four volumes and is much more extensive on Lee’s early life and initial military career. It’s also a bit more of a slog to read through.

I also liked David Herbert Donald’s biography of Lincoln (1996). In that Lincoln wasn’t elected President until about 320 pages in. A lot of background supplied to show what the man was like before he assumed that office and started making major decisions that would affect the entire country.

246 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 6:07:16am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

yikes!

Urban Outfitters has pulled this kind of ready made “viral stunt” about once a year for a decade or so. They just want people to talk about them and spread brand recognition, in their opinion there is no such thing as bad PR.

One of their previous efforts:
Youtube Video

At $129 each I doubt they actually sell more than a handful of those sweatshirts, it isn’t meant to be a serious offer, just a marketing ploy.

247 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:11:15am

So, this meme just showed up in my timeline. WTF. What kind of “government” does this freaking idiot want? Buncha anarchists running around naked in the wilderness?
Not bothering to engage, idiots of this magnitude are automatically blocked.

248 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:12:04am

$5 a day is recommended.

249 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:14:11am
250 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:18:18am

re: #248 Pie-onist Overlord

$5 a day is recommended.

Is that tied to a wage cut for housekeepers by the hotel chains themselves?
//

251 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 6:20:31am

re: #247 Pie-onist Overlord

So, this meme just showed up in my timeline. WTF. What kind of “government” does this freaking idiot want? Buncha anarchists running around naked in the wilderness?
Not bothering to engage, idiots of this magnitude are automatically blocked.

It is pure ego, they think of themselves as being superior men.

Their theory seems to be that every civilization up until now only required governments because men were not socially evolved enough. They think that they are intelligent and “socially aware” enough to do without any government.

If they actually got their way I’d give it about a week, tops, before the killings started. :(

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:21:20am

re: #251 ausador

It is pure ego, they think of themselves as being superior men.

Their theory seems to be that every civilization up until now only required governments because men were not socially evolved enough. They think that they are intelligent and “socially aware” enough to do without any government.

If they actually got their way I’d give it about a week, tops, before the killings started. :(

Someone should ship them a conch shell and a set of eyeglasses.
//

253 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 6:22:20am

Ward Kimball (1914-2002), legendary Disney animator

254 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:23:51am

re: #247 Pie-onist Overlord

So, this meme just showed up in my timeline. WTF. What kind of “government” does this freaking idiot want? Buncha anarchists running around naked in the wilderness?
Not bothering to engage, idiots of this magnitude are automatically blocked.

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“Statist”? IOW a libertarian anarchist who thinks he’d be one of those in power after their revolution instead of being just another serf with the rest.
Too stupid to bother with, as you already know.

255 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 6:25:29am

Oh great. Faux News had another “Texas sheriff” on the air to talk about border issues:

TX Sheriff Warns Fox of ISIS Threat: ‘Quran Books’ Found along Mexican Border

Did they talk to someone who actually lives on the border? Nope. They trotted out a useful idiot from Midland County, which is hundreds of miles from Mexico. You know, because he knows the day to day conditions on the border.

256 iossarian  Sep 15, 2014 6:25:51am

- THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT

- What about roads? Who’s going to build the roads?

- EVERY SO OFTEN WE WILL GATHER TO AGREE ON WHO BUILDS THE ROADS

etc.

257 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:28:09am

re: #256 iossarian

- THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT

- What about roads? Who’s going to build the roads?

- EVERY SO OFTEN WE WILL GATHER TO AGREE ON WHO BUILDS THE ROADS

etc.

The correct statement will be who will gather the slaves dedicated workers who will build the roads. From there they can then argue about tolls and maintenance.
//

258 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 6:29:25am

re:
#256

THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT!!!!!

What about abortion?

PROLIFE! Abortion outlawed!!!! Waiting limits, vaginal ultrasound required!!!11

259 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 6:30:03am

re: #255 Lidane

Oh great. Faux News had another “Texas sheriff” on the air to talk about border issues:

TX Sheriff Warns Fox of ISIS Threat: ‘Quran Books’ Found along Mexican Border

Did they talk to someone who actually lives on the border? Nope. They trotted out a useful idiot from Midland County, which is hundreds of miles from Mexico. You know, because he knows the day to day conditions on the border.

They know they can get the rubes with Texas sheriff.

260 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:30:47am

re: #257 Feline Fearless Leader

The correct statement will be who will gather the slaves dedicated workers who will build the roads. From there they can then argue about tolls and maintenance.
//

Libertarians have no answer to the roads thing, that’s why their automatic reaction is to mock the entire idea of building roads.

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:33:02am

Here is what Ayn Rand said about “the roads” thing. She was really fucked up.

262 Amory Blaine  Sep 15, 2014 6:34:14am

re: #260 Pie-onist Overlord

Road builders are corrupt! ! The roads only last a couple years!!
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263 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:34:45am
264 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:34:56am
265 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:35:28am
266 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:36:15am
267 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:36:51am

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is what Ayn Rand said about “the roads” thing. She was really fucked up.
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It’s from the same screwball “perfect humanity” world as the various other economic and political philosophies. Where people uniformly respect everyone else’s sovereignty, rights, and consent.

And it’s pretty obvious that any actual attempt to create it on any scale will quickly convert over into some sort of warlord or feudal set-up where the consent of most of the inhabitants will not amount to anything beyond perhaps some minor lip service.

268 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:25am

re: #255 Lidane

Oh great. Faux News had another “Texas sheriff” on the air to talk about border issues:

TX Sheriff Warns Fox of ISIS Threat: ‘Quran Books’ Found along Mexican Border

Did they talk to someone who actually lives on the border? Nope. They trotted out a useful idiot from Midland County, which is hundreds of miles from Mexico. You know, because he knows the day to day conditions on the border.

Shame they carried those “Quran Books” all the way from Syria just to dump them on the side of the road in Texas.

///

269 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:32am

re: #267 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s from the same screwball “perfect humanity” world as the various other economic and political philosophies. Where people uniformly respect everyone else’s sovereignty, rights, and consent.

And it’s pretty obvious that any actual attempt to create it on any scale will quickly convert over into some sort of warlord or feudal set-up where the consent of most of the inhabitants will not amount to anything beyond perhaps some minor lip service.

All the Libertarians think they will get to be the Ayatollah of Rock-n-Rolla

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:55am

Falling concrete from Brent Spence misses tailgaters

Brothers and his roommate parked their car next to the support beam Sunday morning in a grassy lot on West Pete Rose Way just east of Longworth Hall. They met some friends at the Longworth Hall parking lot, then went to the game.

When they returned to the car later that afternoon, the windshield of his car was demolished by several pieces of concrete measuring up to a foot wide. The concrete fell from a support beam for the exit ramp from the Brent Spence Bridge to downtown Cincinnati and Interstate 71.

PRIVITIZE!!11!!

271 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 6:40:36am

re: #247 Pie-onist Overlord

I notice that, like many another armchair anarchist, he enjoys tweeting quotes from The Matrix, which was produced on a shoestring budget of $363 million by a small collectivist start-up called Time Warner.

272 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 6:46:20am

re:
#261

“voluntary consent” = Social Contract, Constitution, Taxes, etc.

273 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 6:50:54am

Saw Guardians of the Galaxy this weekend. Great movie. If you have Spotify, here is link to a playlist of the songs in the movie. I used it as a seed for a spotify radio channel, been listening all morning…

open.spotify.com

274 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 6:51:36am

re: #231 ausador

Edumacational Opportunity’s!

You know what’s really depressing about that photo? There was a time in the US, not too long ago, where that kind of mistake just would not happen. Period.

That’s an embarrassment. Also, think about this: that wasn’t just the fault of the artist who typeset it; that went through a few layers of supervision before it went to print.

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:51:42am

re: #271 De Kolta Chair

I notice that, like many another armchair anarchist, he enjoys tweeting quotes from The Matrix, which was produced on a shoestring budget of $363 million by a small collectivist start-up called Time Warner.

I’m sure that if you challenge the fact that he is quoting a work of fiction you’ll get some sort of “fake, but accurate” variation as a response.
//

276 iossarian  Sep 15, 2014 6:54:22am

re: #274 Mattand

You know what’s really depressing about that photo? There was a time in the US, not too long ago, where that kind of mistake just would not happen. Period.

That’s an embarrassment. Also, think about this: that wasn’t just the fault of the artist who typeset it; that went through a few layers of supervision before it went to print.

Glass half-full view: the graphic design and inclusiveness of the message
have improved a lot - 50 years ago the spelling might have been correct, but the typeface would have been all over the shop, and the pictures would all have been of cookie-cutter white people.

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 6:54:53am

Well, you don’t see this every day:

Robbers Hit Convenient Store Then Torch Getaway Dump Truck

KANAWHA COUNTY, w.va. (WSAZ) — Kanawha County Sheriff’s Deputies are looking for two people who stole from a convenience store and then set their getaway truck on fire.

Deputies tell wsaz.com two people walked into the 7-11 on Sissonville Drive about 3:45 a.m. Monday. One person jumped the counter and stole cigarettes, while the other went to the beer cooler and took beer, according to deputies.

The two people left the store in a dump truck.

278 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 6:56:01am

Wut?

Another one of those Sovereign bozos that thinks that legal terms can be used like magic incantations I guess?

279 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 6:56:03am

re: #274 Mattand

You know what’s really depressing about that photo? There was a time in the US, not too long ago, where that kind of mistake just would not happen. Period.

That’s an embarrassment. Also, think about this: that wasn’t just the fault of the artist who typeset it; that went through a few layers of supervision before it went to print.

Probably a whole slew of mistakes, poor organization, poor process, and other issues behind that. Along with much simpler technology that due to the relative inexpensiveness of the process makes the time and effort to due serious proofreading not worth the price and effort. Unless, of course, you do want to treat the product seriously with the knowledge that it reflects directly on the perception of your organization.

280 Amory Blaine  Sep 15, 2014 6:57:13am

2 guys should be able to make drinking money with a dump truck. Assholes.

281 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 6:58:23am

re: #280 Amory Blaine

2 guys should be able to make drinking money with a dump truck. Assholes.

Well, the dump truck was stolen…

282 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 7:00:00am

re: #280 Amory Blaine

2 guys should be able to make drinking money with a dump truck. Assholes.

They stole it from a local company.

The clerk identified the truck as one that belonged to Dunn Excavating. That business is located just north of the 7-11. The truck was reported stolen.

They’re still assholes though.

283 iossarian  Sep 15, 2014 7:00:35am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, the dump truck was stolen…

PLAN:

- purloin dump truck
- acquire smokes, beer
- consume same
- ignite truck, thus destroying evidence
- repair to abode to scheme some more

284 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 7:03:39am

re: #273 Franklin

Saw Guardians of the Galaxy this weekend. Great movie.

I really enjoyed it. Up until the end I didn’t realize it was part of the Marvel movie space-time-plot continuum (my nephew had to fill me in on all that).

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 7:10:29am
286 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 7:10:31am

re: #268 ausador

Shame they carried those “Quran Books” all the way from Syria just to dump them on the side of the road in Texas.

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Laziest caliphate EVER!

287 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 7:19:28am

re: #255 Lidane

Oh great. Faux News had another “Texas sheriff” on the air to talk about border issues:

TX Sheriff Warns Fox of ISIS Threat: ‘Quran Books’ Found along Mexican Border

Did they talk to someone who actually lives on the border? Nope. They trotted out a useful idiot from Midland County, which is hundreds of miles from Mexico. You know, because he knows the day to day conditions on the border.

Yes, they “found” Qurans along the border…..with Walmart price stickers lazily half scratched off.

288 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 7:20:20am

re: #287 Dr. Matt

Yes, they “found” Qurans along the border…..with Walmart price stickers lazily half scratched off.

And were they English translations as well?
/

289 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 7:21:29am

And we know how careless these Muslim caliphates are with their holy book, so yeah, totally true I’m sure about this important find on the Mexican border.

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290 Alyosha  Sep 15, 2014 7:23:08am

re: #287 Dr. Matt

Yes, they “found” Qurans along the border…..with Walmart price stickers lazily half scratched off.

Could simply be school textbooks. I’ve heard the ones found in Texas are pretty heavy on theology.

291 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 7:23:29am

Hmmmmm…

292 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 7:25:27am

GENIUS!

At a trial that lasted about 90 minutes, the court said Matthew Miller, of Bakersfield, California, tore up his tourist visa at Pyongyang’s airport upon arrival on April 10 and admitted to having the “wild ambition” of experiencing prison life so that he could secretly investigate North Korea’s human rights situation.

huffingtonpost.com

293 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 7:25:30am

re: #120 teleskiguy

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Yeah, good luck with that in the United States.

The problem with Tyson’s statement is that one of the most important things in human existence; that is ethics; is entirely non-objective.

Things like ‘goodness’, ‘evil’, ‘value’, have no objective reality. They are entirely a matter of perspective and so different, at least a little, for every person living.

Even the measuring systems we impose on objective reality are simply us pushing our perspective on it. 105F is 41C is 314K. To most of us though it’s just “Too fucking hot!”

The simplest critique I can come up with for Tyson’s statement is, “Logic doesn’t care.”

294 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 7:29:22am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox does seem a tad confused, and I’m willing to bet that the guy in the photo is named Tad. /

295 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 7:31:40am

re: #292 b.d.

Follow your bliss!

296 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 7:31:47am

re: #292 b.d.

GENIUS!

huffingtonpost.com

Well now he has six years to investigate all he wants from inside the belly of the beast itself, he should at least be able to make a decent book out of that.

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297 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 7:37:12am

re: #245 Feline Fearless Leader

For major historical figures I tend to allow for longer biographies (or multi-volume) in order to give the author the chance to spend time on the upbringing and developing years of the figure that shorter works cut out. TR deserves this in spades due to some of his youthful adventures.

As a comparison there is a one volume version of Freeman’s biography of Robert E Lee. Freeman’s full biography is four volumes and is much more extensive on Lee’s early life and initial military career. It’s also a bit more of a slog to read through.

I also liked David Herbert Donald’s biography of Lincoln (1996). In that Lincoln wasn’t elected President until about 320 pages in. A lot of background supplied to show what the man was like before he assumed that office and started making major decisions that would affect the entire country.

I recently found William T. Sherman’s memoirs on Project Gutenberg. A very interesting read.

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 7:47:26am

re: #297 Romantic Heretic

I recently found William T. Sherman’s memoirs on Project Gutenberg. A very interesting read.

One of the better memoirs to come out of the war. Grant’s benefited from having a good editor (Twain), but also pretty much skipped his life before the start of the Civil War.

All of them need to be taken with various sizes of grains of salt. Lots of self-aggrandizing, refighting the war, political/personal axes to grind, etc.* That’s one reason the biographies written 50+ years later are able to take a more even-handed approach.

* - Also an issue with WW2 scholarship. A lot of surviving German generals wrote books right after the war and made statements that about their political or personal opposition to Hitler. These really did not hold up once the various archives opened up to show that what they actually did and their statements do not match up.

299 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 7:48:15am

Arkansas judge loses job over online comments about actress Charlize Theron

…Faulkner County Circuit Judge Michael Maggio admitted posting details from Theron’s closed-record adoption of a child in 2012 on “tigerdroppings.com,” a Louisiana State University fan site, using the online name “geauxjudge,” according to documents that a judicial commission submitted to the state Supreme Court.

Maggio commented in January 2012 that a friend of his handled a single-parent adoption case involving Theron, and that she came to court wearing a “long brown wig, oversized clothes” so as not to be recognized, the commission’s report says. He wrote online that he “offered to be the baby daddy,” documents said…

…The commission’s report includes five pages of comments Maggio made in the social media forum on other cases under the username “geauxjudge,” including statements on various aspects of gender, race and sexuality issues. The report concluded that he had violated at least 23 judicial codes…

…The Arkansas Supreme Court order prohibits Maggio from holding any judicial office in that state and orders him to be removed from office without pay.

300 iossarian  Sep 15, 2014 7:48:42am

re: #294 De Kolta Chair

Fox does seem a tad confused, and I’m willing to bet that the guy in the photo is named Tad. /

Now now. Could be Todd. Or Thad.

301 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 7:49:27am

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is what Ayn Rand said about “the roads” thing. She was really fucked up.
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He gives his voluntary consent by staying within the territory where a government has been instituted among the men and women, deriving its authority from the just consent of the governed.

302 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 7:52:01am

re: #294 De Kolta Chair

Fox does seem a tad confused, and I’m willing to bet that the guy in the photo is named Tad. /

That’s being a tad mean isn’t it?

303 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 7:55:44am

re: #251 ausador

It is pure ego, they think of themselves as being superior men.

Their theory seems to be that every civilization up until now only required governments because men were not socially evolved enough. They think that they are intelligent and “socially aware” enough to do without any government.

If they actually got their way I’d give it about a week, tops, before the killings started. :(

And they’re cool with that. They all suffer from ‘Meanest-Son-of-A-Bitch-in-The-Valley’ syndrome and so they believe they’ll survive just fine. They’re seriously over-estimating their odds.

Also, as I’ve noted before people adapt believe systems either as guidelines or excuses. Anarchy, I mean Libertarianism, is custom made as an excuse.

304 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 7:56:26am

Hmm, this should ruin a pastime for a large number of people.

Microsoft is buying the Minecraft franchise for $2.5B.

nbcnews.com

305 Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2014 7:57:32am

re: #304 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, this should ruin a pastime for a large number of people.

Microsoft is buying the Minecraft franchise for $2.5B.

nbcnews.com

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 7:57:46am

re: #301 GeneJockey

He gives his voluntary consent by staying within the territory where a government has been instituted among the men and women, deriving its authority from the just consent of the governed.

And this leads to corporations shifting their HQ overseas to avoid taxes. Of course, this will eventually probably lead to some interesting new tariffs if the trend continues.

307 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 7:59:10am

re: #305 Targetpractice

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I asked the younger boy about Minecraft, and how it’s being associated with 9 year old boys these days. He said he doesn’t play anymore.

I asked why.

He said, “Because it was taken over by 9 year old boys. Duh.”

308 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 7:59:32am

Splash down in T-minus 3, 2, 1…

309 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 8:00:28am

re: #306 Feline Fearless Leader

And this leads to corporations shifting their HQ overseas to avoid taxes. Of course, this will eventually probably lead to some interesting new tariffs if the trend continues.

Nah. Free trade will make us all rich and create millions of American jobs & shit like that, don’cha know.

310 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 8:01:19am

re: #308 ausador

Splash down in T-minus 3, 2, 1…

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If I tried to dance like that, it wouldn’t take but a minute or so till nobody was watching.

311 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 8:02:22am

A request!

If you have a Twitter account, would you please report this impersonator for spam as soon as possible?

@Green_Footbals

(Notice - only one L.)

312 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 8:05:27am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

A request!

If you have a Twitter account, would you please report this impersonator for spam as soon as possible?

@Green_Footbals

(Notice - only one L.)

Done.

313 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 8:09:33am

Here’s another link in case the previous one doesn’t work:

@Green_Footbals

314 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:11:02am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

A request!

If you have a Twitter account, would you please report this impersonator for spam as soon as possible?

@Green_Footbals

(Notice - only one L.)

And the misspelling of your last name:

Jonhson

Reported, see, I knew I signed up to Twitter for some reason.

315 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 8:11:28am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

A request!

If you have a Twitter account, would you please report this impersonator for spam as soon as possible?

@Green_Footbals

(Notice - only one L.)

Done.

316 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 8:11:56am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

Wow, what pathetic little people. They have some serious issues.

317 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 8:12:40am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

A request!

If you have a Twitter account, would you please report this impersonator for spam as soon as possible?

@Green_Footbals

(Notice - only one L.)

Report them for impersonation or report them as spam?

318 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 8:13:09am

re: #296 ausador

In his defense, that’s what a North Korean court is claiming he said.

319 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 8:13:12am

I was thinking yesterday:

Those most likely to smear Charles with association to Brievik, are most likely to have similar views as Breivik.

It’s some weird projection thing.

320 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:16:28am

re: #318 De Kolta Chair

In his defense, that’s what a North Korean court is claiming he said.

The Associated Press was allowed to attend the trial.

I am such he was instructed what to say but who knows what the real story is. His whole story, from all sources I’ve seen, paint his actions as one of a weirdo.

321 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 8:17:00am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

done

322 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 8:17:50am

re: #316 Ryan King

Wow, what pathetic little people. They have some serious issues.

But remember, Charles and LGF are IRRELEVANT!

I don’t have that particular graphic to upload :-(

323 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:18:58am

re: #322 Bubblehead II

But remember, Charles and LGF are IRRELEVANT!

I don’t have that particular graphic to upload :-(

LGF won’t let me be a racist in peace!!

324 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 8:21:22am

Watched the first ep of the Roosevelts. Very fascinating. Good choices for the voice overs too.

325 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 8:21:29am

I was working at a client’s home yesterday realizing I’m not that good at my work anymore and I need to hire help that is not as impatient as I am.

But I got to taste a ‘78 Lafite and meet Ben Crenshaw. And I didn’t have to use my AK. I gotta say it was a good day.

326 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 8:21:34am

re: #323 b.d.

LGF won’t let me be a racist and bigotted in peace!!

ftfy

327 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:22:33am

re: #318 De Kolta Chair

In his defense, that’s what a North Korean court is claiming he said.

But believe what you will anything coming from that crazed state:

Notes produced in court also suggested he had become a fugitive because he was involved with Wikileaks, the organisation that has leaked US state secrets.

bbc.com

328 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 8:23:42am

re: #319 Ryan King

I was thinking yesterday:

Those most likely to smear Charles with association to Brievik, are most likely to have similar views as Breivik.

It’s some weird projection thing.

GMTA:

and reported…

329 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 8:30:39am

re: #317 Mattand

Report them for impersonation or report them as spam?

Reporting for impersonation can only be done by the person being impersonated. If several people report as spam that’s the quickest way to get it shut down.

330 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:35:46am

re: #327 b.d.

Notes produced in court also suggested he had become a fugitive because he was involved with Wikileaks, the organisation that has leaked US state secrets.

bbc.com

OBAMA IS GOING TO LET MILLER ROT IN A NORTH KOREAN PRISON BECAUSE HE SUPPORTED WIKILEAKS

331 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 8:36:36am

re: #329 Charles Johnson

Reporting for impersonation can only be done by the person being impersonated. If several people report as spam that’s the quickest way to get it shut down.

On it.

332 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 8:37:02am

re: #312 Bubblehead II

Done.

Ditto

333 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 8:37:31am

re: #322 Bubblehead II

But remember, Charles and LGF are IRRELEVANT!

I don’t have that particular graphic to upload :-(

I made it. Feel free to steal it.

334 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 8:40:34am

re: #333 wrenchwench

I made it. Feel free to steal it.

[Embedded image]

Thanks. Saved to my Library.

335 lawhawk  Sep 15, 2014 8:42:17am

re: #311 Charles Johnson

Done.

336 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 8:42:46am

re: #334 Bubblehead II

Thanks. Saved to my Library.

The irrellevanter LFG gets, the handier the graphic. Or something.

337 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 8:44:15am
338 lawhawk  Sep 15, 2014 8:47:52am

re: #337 Ace-o-aces

He’s not a researcher.

He’s not even a “researcher”.

He’s a smear monger.

He has no interest in facts, logic, or truth.

It’s all about spreading his narrative.

What CCJ ignores is that someone could claim to be the victim of domestic abuse without having filed a criminal complaint, let alone charges, a prosecution, or conviction follows. But because he doesn’t think this paper trail exists means her story is suspect?

Sorry, but CCJ is just a malicious, smarmy, evil little person.

And I hate that we have to spend so much time debunking all the crap he and Hoft spews on a daily basis because of their reach.

339 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2014 8:48:53am

re: #337 Ace-o-aces

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Or maybe she never REPORTED a good chunk of the abuse she suffered. Only a small percentage actually makes it in to the police files.

340 Dave In Austin  Sep 15, 2014 8:49:10am

Are We There Yet??????

341 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 8:49:21am

re: #337 Ace-o-aces

@ChuckCJohnson @rageahol maybe you’re a shitty researcher?

342 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 8:50:02am

re: #337 Ace-o-aces

He can’t find an account of her abuse because he hasn’t been funded by the ANGEL INVESTOR OF DEATH yet.

343 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 8:51:02am
344 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:51:28am

re: #340 Dave In Austin

Are We There Yet??????

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South Padre?

Longgggg drive, so no, you’re not there yet.

345 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 8:52:02am

re:
#338

I haz award-winning journalist!!! And I’ve one academic awards allover the country of America!!!!111

346 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 8:53:59am

I keep hearing ‘Angel of Death’ by Slayer now, thanks to Chuck and his ANGEL INVESTOR.

Every.Freakin.Time.

347 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 8:54:17am

“Do I amuse you?”

348 lawhawk  Sep 15, 2014 8:54:35am

Drudge headline in tweet - “Koran books” found along border.

The story itself makes no mention of Korans but alleges that Muslim items were found. No photos or other evidence. Let’s just say I’m suspect that this is what they’re claiming.

Never mind that Midland, Texas is about 200 miles to the border. Yet, the sheriff there is claiming the following:

Midland County Sheriff Gary Painter said that law enforcement agencies along the “wide open” border have received alerts to be on the lookout for terrorists from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria crossing into the United States.

Painter, who said he has worked along the border for “about eight years,” stated that alerts have been issued to border law enforcement to be on the lookout for suspicious terrorist activity, specifically involving ISIS cells being smuggled into the United States.

“I received an intelligence report that said that there was ISIS cells that were active in the Juarez area, which is the northern part of the Chihuahua state, and that they were moving around over there, that there was some activity…” Painter told Fox News. The report asked “for the sheriffs along the border to be on the alert, for all law enforcement to be on the alert, and to be on the lookout for these people maybe trying to come across.”

Yet, where’s the actual evidence of these alerts, warnings, texts, or other statements.

What’s more troubling is that ISIS could quite likely get a convert in the US to come over to their worldview, and that person would then carry out attacks - all without having to bother with a border crossing.

It’s the lone wolf scenario, which is far more difficult for LEOs to detect. But to Fox, it’s all about securing the border - even though no one among them offers up how to pay for any/all of it.

349 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 8:56:48am

re: #348 lawhawk

Related:

WND Columnist: Make The Quran Illegal

A bill should be brought before Congress identifying all passages in the Quran which, whether in isolation or taken together, constitute incitement to murder.

The bill should specify that anyone who reads any of these passages out loud is to be charged with that crime and, if convicted, subjected to the usual penalty for it - a long prison term.

The bill should state that, after a grace period of a year, every copy of the Quran must clearly identify by emboldened and different-colored text the passages that constitute criminal incitement to murder, together with a clearly printed warning on the first page that reading any of these passages out loud anywhere within the jurisdiction of the United States may result in prosecution.

The prominent part played by the Quran in the radicalization of young Muslims so that they become willing to murder their own fellow-citizens demands that we act at once, before its dangerous influence incites the loss of any more innocent lives. The Quran as it now stands is illegal.

1. The First Amendment, how the fuck does it work?

2. Can we write a similar bill highlighting all the violent passages in the Bible? Yeah, I thought so.

350 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:57:01am

US Dept. of Energy Retweeted this:

351 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 8:57:02am

re: #347 De Kolta Chair

“Do I amuse you?”

Ray Liotta is a RWNJ!??!? Ugh….that’s very disappointing.

352 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 8:57:38am

re: #348 lawhawk

Also, can I just point out that Midland County is hundreds of miles from the Texas-Mexico border? This sheriff is full of shit.

353 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 8:57:51am

re: #348 lawhawk

Why would ‘Quran Books’ be in quotes?

354 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 8:58:44am

re: #353 b.d.

Why would ‘Quran Books’ be in quotes?

Because that’s the phrase that Cletus McSheriff used in describing them.

355 ObserverArt  Sep 15, 2014 8:59:32am

Hi all. I’m having a tough time getting moving today. I guess I did too much digging and moving dirt in my backyard yesterday. I was contouring some areas around my foundation where a couple of downspouts drain out. I was making sure there was enough grade up to the foundation instead of low spots where runoff would makes its way back. Anyway…. tired ass muscles. Ugh.

Just heard on some sports news that Vikings Adrian Peterson will be back practicing and playing this week.

The whole child abuse versus punishment thing is pretty heated and it looks like Peterson is getting some backing with the tough-love crowd.

Also, not to make it race related, but there does appear to be some backing from African-Americans athletes (like Charles Barkley and Tony Dungy) that there is nothing wrong with ‘whoopins’ as long as you don’t go too far. I guess what is ‘too far’ is in the eye of the parent.

356 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 15, 2014 9:00:08am

re: #353 b.d.

Why would ‘Quran Books’ be in quotes?

I think to emphasize that the astute sheriff used those exact words.

357 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 9:00:38am

re: #353 b.d.

Why would ‘Quran Books’ be in quotes?

Because they are ScareBooks. You put ScareBooks in Scare Quotes to make them More Scare.

358 Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2014 9:00:40am

re: #338 lawhawk

He’s not a researcher.

He’s not even a “researcher”.

He’s a smear monger.

He has no interest in facts, logic, or truth.

It’s all about spreading his narrative.

What CCJ ignores is that someone could claim to be the victim of domestic abuse without having filed a criminal complaint, let alone charges, a prosecution, or conviction follows. But because he doesn’t think this paper trail exists means her story is suspect?

Sorry, but CCJ is just a malicious, smarmy, evil little person.

And I hate that we have to spend so much time debunking all the crap he and Hoft spews on a daily basis because of their reach.

A waste is a terrible thing to mind.

359 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 9:00:46am

re: #351 Dr. Matt

Ray Liotta is a RWNJ!??!? Ugh….that’s very disappointing.

I don’t anything about his politics, but he has a new “Christian-themed’ movie to sell.

360 Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2014 9:01:38am
361 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 9:02:22am

re:
#349

Wow, so very Freedom and much Liberty.

Ban Koran but are special holy book for Christians can not be questioned at all and is basis for Constitution.

362 ObserverArt  Sep 15, 2014 9:02:46am

I always thought Ray Liotta was never really acting. I love him is some of his movies, but dang he always seemed one tick away from going off.

363 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 9:03:34am

re: #360 Timothy Watson

C’mon Huckabee, spoiler that shit!

364 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 9:05:55am

re: #360 Timothy Watson

If all of the Muslims converted to Christianity then the price/demand for bacon would skyrocket.

I say let them worship how they want.

365 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 9:08:25am

re: #364 b.d.

If all of the Muslims converted to Christianity, RNWJs would start their own religion and claim Christianity is evil. the price/demand for bacon would skyrocket.

I say let them worship how they want.

Fixed it.

366 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 9:08:49am

re: #348 lawhawk

Drudge headline in tweet - “Koran books” found along border.

From the article:

“I think it’d be naive to say that (ISIS is) not here…We have found Muslim clothing, they have found Quran books that are lying on the side of the trail, so we know that there are Muslims that have come across and are being smuggled into the United States,” Painter told Fox News.

Do these people think Muslims just shed Korans as they walk? Do they leave a trial of holy books along their path like breadcrumbs?

367 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 9:09:30am
Texas Sheriff: ‘Muslim Clothing, Koran Books’ Found on Border Trails

Should I even link to it?

368 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 9:10:03am

re: #366 Ace-o-aces

From the article:

Do these people think Muslims just shed Korans as they walk? Do they leave a trial of holy books along their path like breadcrumbs?

Them thar scary Moozlims just drop their Quran books on the side of the road to blend in!

////////////

369 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 9:10:35am

re: #367 Ryan King

Should I even link to it?

Nah. He’s full of shit.

How would a sheriff from Midland know what the fuck is showing up on the border?

371 Frenchy  Sep 15, 2014 9:10:46am

This ‘Quran Books’ story seems to really check out and sounds totally legit. I recommend we all start to panic immediately.

372 Dave In Austin  Sep 15, 2014 9:11:16am

re: #344 b.d.

South Padre?

Longgggg drive, so no, you’re not there yet.

Si, 6 hrs. I got 2 dayz o’ work first. Leaving Wends. Morning.

373 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 9:11:18am

re: #366 Ace-o-aces

From the article:

Do these people think Muslims just shed Korans as they walk? Do they leave a trial of holy books along their path like breadcrumbs?

Funny, I get religious comic books left on my front door all the time.

374 Ryan King  Sep 15, 2014 9:12:17am

re: #369 Lidane

Nah. He’s full of shit.

How would a sheriff from Midland know what the fuck is showing up on the border?

Because he has a white cowboy hat on and he’s on Fox News. Which makes him Muslim Tracker: Expert.

375 Franklin  Sep 15, 2014 9:13:18am

Listening to the spotify radio station I mentioned in my #273 and “Power of Love” just came on.

Related: I want to go home sick and watch the Back to the Future trilogy.

376 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 9:13:35am

re: #366 Ace-o-aces

From the article:

Do these people think Muslims just shed Korans as they walk? Do they leave a trial of holy books along their path like breadcrumbs?

Shouldn’t we be more worried about the evil Rio Grande hopping terrorists still holding on to their Koran Books rather than the ones that chunk them in the brush? Maybe they realized the follies of their ways, converted and are now model citizens?

//

377 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 9:14:21am

re: #369 Lidane

Nah. He’s full of shit.

How would a sheriff from Midland know what the fuck is showing up on the border?

He got on a ladder.

378 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 9:14:23am

re: #349 Lidane

Related:

WND Columnist: Make The Quran Illegal

The columnist is question is Lord Christopher Monckton, who exists to remind us why the founding fathers rejected an inherited aristocracy.

379 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 9:16:22am

re: #373 Ryan King

Funny, I get religious comic books left on my front door all the time.

We occasionally find them on the Gaming floor. They go straight into the trash. If we catch the individual leaving them (almost always on graveyards) we trespass em and escort them off property.

380 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 9:16:29am

self-deleted

382 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 9:23:44am

re: #381 Lidane

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

These were the same “people” that said Obamacare (AND his re-election) would be the end of America.

383 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 9:26:47am

re: #347 De Kolta Chair

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“Do I amuse you?”

Ray Liotta is a Beck-ian wingnut?

384 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 9:27:07am
385 Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2014 9:32:56am

re: #366 Ace-o-aces

From the article:

Do these people think Muslims just shed Korans as they walk? Do they leave a trial of holy books along their path like breadcrumbs?

Most Muslims wouldn’t abandon a copy of the Qur’an - it is treated with reverence, and not left at the side of the road. Furthermore, I can’t help but wonder were these English-language transliterations, or Arabic originals?

386 blueraven  Sep 15, 2014 9:35:09am

re: #380 De Kolta Chair

-Deleted- as De Kolta Chair deleted original post that I quoted, and my own inappropriate comment.

387 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 9:35:13am

re: #385 Dr Lizardo

Furthermore, I can’t help but wonder were these English-language transliterations, or Arabic originals?

Hard to say, since they most likely only ever existed in the fevered imaginations of RWNJs.

388 allegro  Sep 15, 2014 9:36:24am

re: #385 Dr Lizardo

Most Muslims wouldn’t abandon a copy of the Qur’an - it is treated with reverence, and not left at the side of the road. Furthermore, I can’t help but wonder were these English-language transliterations, or Arabic originals?

Chick tracks that were used as toilet paper leaving poop beards on Jesus so he looked Muslim to the asshats desperate to find boogy people to shoot at in the dark.

389 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 9:37:36am

re: #380 De Kolta Chair

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He seems nice. /

He has Graves Disease.

But no, he’s not a nice person.

390 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 9:38:26am

re: #387 Ace-o-aces

Hard to say, since they most likely only ever existed in the fevered imaginations of RWNJs.

He’s an AGW/CC denier with Graves Disease.

391 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 9:39:02am

re: #383 Mattand

Ray Liotta is a Beck-ian wingnut?

I have no idea. He may have been on Beck’s show just to market his latest flick.

392 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 9:39:41am
393 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 9:40:44am

re: #389 b_sharp

He has Graves Disease.

But no, he’s not a nice person.

I didn’t know that. A friend of mine suffers from it. Thanks for the info, and I’ve deleted the comment.

394 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 9:45:57am

re:
#381

Rev. Austin Miles, who believes President Obama is going to arrest him and throw him in jail any day now…

I’m SO important and Barack Hussein Obama is ASCARED of ME!!!!11

395 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 9:53:53am

re: #348 lawhawk

Drudge headline in tweet - “Koran books” found along border.

Wait, wait, don’t tell me…

396 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 9:56:34am

re: #304 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, this should ruin a pastime for a large number of people.

Microsoft is buying the Minecraft franchise for $2.5B.

nbcnews.com

First upgrade, if it is anything like fucking Office 2013, will send every user skittering quickly for a new addiction.

397 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 9:59:12am

re: #376 b.d.

Shouldn’t we be more worried about the evil Rio Grande hopping terrorists still holding on to their Koran Books rather than the ones that chunk them in the brush? Maybe they realized the follies of their ways, converted and are now model citizens?

//

I’m sure there is some (nut) theory that littering the land with Korans somehow contaminates it and claims it for Islam.

And I bet the same people probably think that the land can be claimed back by carpet bombing it with bacon or some other pork product.
//

398 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 10:05:27am

re: #348 lawhawk

Drudge headline in tweet - “Koran books” found along border.

Last paragraph in the article that Drudge linked:

When reached out to by the Midland Reporter-Telegram, the FBI did not comment or provide a statement about the terrorist reports Painter claims to have received.

There’s a significant chance that zero RWNJs read that far down.

399 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:08:46am

re: #349 Lidane

Related:

WND Columnist: Make The Quran Illegal

After the Bible.

400 Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2014 10:09:10am

re: #397 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m sure there is some (nut) theory that littering the land with Korans somehow contaminates it and claims it for Islam.

And I bet the same people probably think that the land can be claimed back by carpet bombing it with bacon or some other pork product.
//

I think some of the religious leaders really do know history and don’t want it to happen to them. So they are going to be as non accepting of any other religion as the old Europeans were accepting of other gods.

Researchers that have studied the spread of Catholicism west pretty much agree that Christianity got its foothold in Europe because of the ancient Europeans acceptance of the christian god as just another god in the pantheon of gods that were worshiped at that time. Most areas of worship just accepted another god among their poly-theistic believers. Then christianity started infiltrating from inside to get leaders, monarchs, and other rulers to accept the Only One God concept and mandate it throughout their realm.

I see many of these “others religion” scares as just them remembering what they did to achieve their dominance in the western world and afraid that tactic will be used on them.

401 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 10:10:05am

re: #398 Dr. Matt

Last paragraph in the article that Drudge linked:

There’s a significant chance that zero RWNJs read that far down.

Koran Books and Coloring Books sound very similar, especially in West Texan talk, maybe the Sheriff misunderstood someone?

402 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 10:12:27am

re: #400 Eventual Carrion

I see many of these “others religion” scares as just them remembering what they did to achieve their dominance in the western world and afraid that tactic will be used on them.

I don’t think they have that much of a grasp of history. They just know that they want to establish a Christian Theocracy and are threatened by any religion that would want to do the same.

403 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 10:12:57am

re: #348 lawhawk

Drudge headline in tweet - “Koran books” found along border.

[Embedded content]

The story itself makes no mention of Korans but alleges that Muslim items were found. No photos or other evidence. Let’s just say I’m suspect that this is what they’re claiming.

Never mind that Midland, Texas is about 200 miles to the border. Yet, the sheriff there is claiming the following:

Yet, where’s the actual evidence of these alerts, warnings, texts, or other statements.

What’s more troubling is that ISIS could quite likely get a convert in the US to come over to their worldview, and that person would then carry out attacks - all without having to bother with a border crossing.

It’s the lone wolf scenario, which is far more difficult for LEOs to detect. But to Fox, it’s all about securing the border - even though no one among them offers up how to pay for any/all of it.

Good lord what a stupid report. Relying on an interview of some nutty sheriff by Fox News.

404 lawhawk  Sep 15, 2014 10:17:31am

re: #403 Gus

A sheriff of a county that’s hundreds of miles from the border. From the article:

Painter noted that “Muslim” items have been strewn along the border and estimated that 10 to 15 million “undocumented aliens” have crossed the border.

“I think it’d be naive to say that (ISIS is) not here…We have found Muslim clothing, they have found Quran books that are lying on the side of the trail, so we know that there are Muslims that have come across and are being smuggled into the United States,” Painter told Fox News.

I had searched for koran, not the other spellings. It’s in there.

The problem is that it is anecdotal. He didn’t find anything. He’s probably relying on the same Fox News reports that claimed to find Muslim prayer rugs that turned out to be soccer gear.

What I think is going on is that some of these people think the border security/immigration issue is the most important issue above all others, so they’ll throw everything and the kitchen sink into the argument, including the potential that terrorists would cross into the country from Mexico, all in the hopes that the fear/threat would get more funding.

405 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 10:18:00am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t think they have that much of a grasp of history. They just know that they want to establish a Christian Theocracy and are threatened by any religion that would want to do the same.

anything that might challenge them for getting and retaining power.

FTFY.

406 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:20:56am
On a visit to the Arizona border, Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo got a firsthand look at smuggling routes.

“We’ve found copies of the Koran, we have found prayer rugs, we have found a lot of stuff written in Arabic, so it’s not just people from Mexico coming across that border,” Tancredo, a Republican, explains.

cbsnews.com

October 26, 2005

407 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:21:11am

Seems like an urban legend.

408 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 10:21:15am

re: #404 lawhawk

What I think is going on is that some of these people think the border security/immigration issue is the most important issue above all others, so they’ll throw everything and the kitchen sink into the argument, including the potential that terrorists would cross into the country from Mexico, all in the hopes that the fear/threat would get more funding.

Also to keep immigration reform from getting anywhere. It’s working.

409 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 10:21:24am
Leaders of The Backstoppers Inc., which raises money to financially support families of fallen emergency responders who die in the line of duty, do not know who is selling T-shirts that read: “I support Officer Darren Wilson,” and will not be accepting any money from the sales if it is offered, said Executive Director Ron Battelle.

stltoday.com

410 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 10:21:49am

re: #406 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

cbsnews.com

October 26, 2005

Old meme is old.

411 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 10:23:05am

re: #404 lawhawk

A sheriff of a county that’s hundreds of miles from the border. From the article:

I had searched for koran, not the other spellings. It’s in there.

The problem is that it is anecdotal. He didn’t find anything. He’s probably relying on the same Fox News reports that claimed to find Muslim prayer rugs that turned out to be soccer gear.

What I think is going on is that some of these people think the border security/immigration issue is the most important issue above all others, so they’ll throw everything and the kitchen sink into the argument, including the potential that terrorists would cross into the country from Mexico, all in the hopes that the fear/threat would get more funding.

Updated: Midland County Sheriff will not seize arms if executive order passes

If a presidential executive order to collect guns from people’s homes is declared, Midland County Sheriff Gary Painter said he will not do so.

Painter made the remarks during a John Birch Society luncheon at the Midland Country Club on Thursday, one month after President Barack Obama announced gun control proposals in the wake of mass shootings across the country.

“No. 1, I don’t think executive orders are constitutional,” Painter said. “And No. 2, there’s gonna be one hell of a fight if they come and try to take guns out of my house.”

But according to Obama’s list of 23 executive actions found on the White House website, none explicitly state the seizure of weapons. Some of the executive actions refer to the federal background check system, and others refer to mental health.

Continues.

Sheriff Gary Painter talks with Tom Sloan Thursday before speaking at the John Birch Society luncheon at Midland Country Club. Tim FischerReporter-Telegram Read more: Updated: Midland County Sheriff will not seize arms if executive order passes

Obama Derangement [x]
John Birch Society [x]

412 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:24:10am
“We’ve found Korans, prayer rugs and many other unusual items at the border that certainly raise concern,” the agent said.

theblaze.com

Jul. 14, 2014

413 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:25:11am

A gentleman’s set: a Koran and a prayer rug.

:D

414 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 10:27:26am

re: #411 Gus

Updated: Midland County Sheriff will not seize arms if executive order passes

Sheriff Gary Painter talks with Tom Sloan Thursday before speaking at the John Birch Society luncheon at Midland Country Club. Tim FischerReporter-Telegram Read more: Updated: Midland County Sheriff will not seize arms if executive order passes

Obama Derangement [x]
John Birch Society [x]

Damnit. Took me an hour to find a hint of that buried here.

This past February, in West Texas, the sheriff in Midland County, Gary Painter, said at a John Birch Society luncheon that he would refuse to confiscate people’s guns from their homes if ordered by the Obama administration and referred to the president’s State of the Union address as propaganda.

415 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 10:27:36am

re: #411 Gus

Updated: Midland County Sheriff will not seize arms if executive order passes

So what you’re saying is that Sheriff Cletus T. Dumbfuck is both an idiot and a nutjob.

My surprise, etc.

417 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 10:32:11am

Seems like he’s just repeating what he’s been reading on right wing blogs and Hannity.

418 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 10:33:05am

Blaming the Victim, ISIL/ISIS edition:

Sandy Rios Attacks Slain Aid Worker David Haines’ Brother, Accuses Him Of Helping Islamists

The American Family Association’s Sandy Rios is outraged that the brother of David Haines, a British aid worker who was beheaded by ISIS, said that Muslims were not to blame for the violent actions of the extremist group.

“His lack of understanding is just amazing and his spiritual confusion is just overwhelming,” Rios said on her American Family Radio program today. “He represents, I think, millions of American and British post-Christians who believe it’s ‘live and let live,’ it’s ‘coexist,’ it’s ‘whatever it takes to have peace among all men,’ not understanding that the Muslim faith is absolutely to blame for ISIL.”

“That’s the kind of thinking that is just perfect targets for the Islamists,” she continued. “They’re not moved by this, they’re not moved by the fact that he says his family’s not Muslim, that means their heads will be more on the chopping block, they’re not won by this kind of spiritual blandness and confusion.”

419 lawhawk  Sep 15, 2014 10:33:10am

re: #417 Gus

Seems like he’s just repeating what he’s been reading on right wing blogs and Hannity.

The circle of derp is complete.

420 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 10:33:50am

re:
#414

…he would refuse to confiscate people’s guns from their homes if ordered by the Obama administration.

There, see, guys? I told you the whole Obama Executive Order to Confiscate People’s Gunz wasn’t going to work!

/

421 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:35:18am
Grijalva posted a video compilation of Saucedo Mercer’s comments on his campaign’s Facebook page Tuesday morning.

Saucedo Mercer “claims that ‘Middle Easterners’ are just here to hurt us, that they’re trying to blend in as Mexicans and leaving ‘prayer rugs and copies of the Koran’ in the desert, and that she doesn’t want them here ‘legally or illegally,’” Grijalva said on Facebook.

tucson.com

August 29, 2012

Fuller quote from borderfactcheck.tumblr.com

Just last year… if I remember correctly, there were 25,000 people that they were able to apprehend other than Mexicans. That includes Chinese, Middle Easterners. If you know Middle Easterners, they look Mexican or like a lot of people in South America, and they mix in. … And those people, their only goal in life is to cause harm to the United States. … They have found prayer rugs, they have found copies of the Koran [in the desert], so that tells you this is not just, you know, poor illegals that are trying to come to this country to find work. It’s bigger than that.”

Video:

Youtube Video

The interview itself is apparently 2011. It’s a very stable meme.

422 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 10:36:26am

re: #412 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

theblaze.com

Jul. 14, 2014

Hey, they are all just into recycling…

423 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 10:40:21am

re: #421 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Saucedo Mercer “claims that ‘Middle Easterners’ are just here to hurt us, that they’re trying to blend in as Mexicans and leaving ‘prayer rugs and copies of the Koran’ in the desert

Completely absurd to suggest that Muslims devout enough to lug Korans and prayer rugs through the desert would cast them aside like a used water bottle.

424 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:41:00am
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A friend who works with Border Patrol says they find korans/quorans all the time in the piles of discarded clothing etc left by border crossers.

This is from a comment at Geller’s dump.

425 Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2014 10:41:56am

re: #424 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This is from a comment at Geller’s dump.

Yet we’re all still alive.

426 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 10:42:50am

Cities fear violence as militia groups threaten to shut down border crossings

Border militias are threatening to block international ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border later this week to protest the jailing of a former Marine on Mexican weapons charges, and authorities fear the protests could spark violence.

The protest was launched by Stasyi Barth, a 41-year-old married mother of three from Lake Elsinore, California, who said she has been angry for years about illegal immigration but decided to take action after the Marine veteran’s arrest “kind of pushed it over the edge.”

Barth [and Chupp]…spent time in April at the Bundy Ranch and claims connections to the Oath Keepers, Militiamen, Three-Percenters, and other right-wing “patriot” groups -- will take part in protests along the California and Texas borders.

Barth, a former computer programmer who has been on disability for most of the last decade, isn’t sure how many people will take part in the protest, which she hopes will cause so much chaos governments will be forced to act on both sides of the border.

The Derp-meter just imploded.

427 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 10:43:01am

re: #424 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“My other friend who works with Border Patrol says they all have religious objections to using cameras.”

428 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:44:33am

re: #427 jaunte

Since 2005 (est.).

429 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:47:43am

Think this merits a page?

430 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 10:52:30am

re: #429 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Think this merits a page?

A handy debunking reference would be very nice.

431 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:55:02am

townhall.com

Phyllis Schlafly | Apr 26, 2004

Other suspicious items picked up by local residents include Muslim prayer rugs and notebooks written in both Arabic and Spanish. These items come from a subcategory called Special Interest Aliens, who are illegals coming from terrorist-sponsoring countries.

432 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:57:01am
And despite the fact that Islamic prayer blankets and copies of the Koran are often found along the smuggling routes, the agency tasked with keeping America safe, Homeland Security, insists that it does not have any “credible information” on terrorist groups operating along the border.

usbc.org

July 12, 2010 , by Ed Nelson

433 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 10:58:48am

stopthedrugwar.org

Barry takes us to Texas and Arizona border counties where the numbers show little violent crime, but the sheriffs and politicians cry to high heaven about “spill over violence,” Korans found on the border, and the threat of narco-Hezbollah conspiracies, for which there is no evidence.

434 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 11:04:27am

original.antiwar.com

by Kelley B. Vlahos, August 17, 2010

But there he was in a debate last month, right wing radio jock and Washington Times columnist Jeffrey Kuhner, talking about the “thousands of prayer rugs and Korans” found strewn along the southern border, presumably left in haste by Islamic terrorists-to-be.

435 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 15, 2014 11:17:08am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Oh. Excellent. By the way, anyone know what the best bio on TR is? I read the H.W Brands one on FDR which I thought was excellent. I thought Brands was fair. Don’t know if Brands is liberal, conservative, or what but he was fair to FDR.

David McCullough wrote “Mornings On Horseback,” about TR’s early life from 10 to 27. It was interesting, but paled in comparison to his “The Path Between The Seas,” re the French and US construction of the Panama Canal.

In “The Path,” there’s good background on how involved TR was in creating the country of Panama out of sovereign Colombia land.

The Path Between The Seas is a good read.

436 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 11:25:22am

On a second thought, nah. The links here will be useful for future reference. Or if anyone wants to make a page using them, you’re welcome.

437 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 15, 2014 11:30:39am

re: #194 Gus

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Patriots.

The Seven Sisters have always had their own economic and foreign policy.

“What’s good for General Bullmoose is good for General Bullmoose.”

438 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 11:46:47am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Edmund Morris’s TR “trilogy” is very good: The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt, Theodore Rex & Colonel Roosevelt.

439 otoc  Sep 15, 2014 12:36:47pm

re: #409 b.d.

stltoday.com

I’m sure they don’t mind about giving up the funds for this sale…

Only 15 needed to relaunch!
This campaign ended 22 days ago
19 were sold in the original campaign
Link

What I found interesting was the reporter in your linked article called the statement on TeeSpring a rumor. The statement is real and hardly a rumor: the proceeds were to go to the organization. If it isn’t true, it is a lie that reflects poorly on these crowd sourced fundraisers. You’d think a good reporter would at least check with Teespring.

440 lostlakehiker  Sep 15, 2014 2:35:22pm

re: #22 Lidane

Re: the prosecutor raising money for Darren Wilson

I am not surprised. It’s the South. Justice works differently if you’re black or brown. Always has.

And I am not surprised either. It never occurred to you that such a manifest impropriety might not be for real. And on top of that, Missouri is not “the South”. Unless you’re going to classify, oh, Maryland, Delaware, and DC as “the South” too.


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