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1 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 1:00:10pm

I watched this last night and man, Brown is such a tool. Hubby asked if that bit about his laughing in the face of the Scottish member’s face was altered because it was so, so terribly awfully condescendingly bad.

2 Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2014 1:04:47pm

Free Conrwall!

3 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 1:07:36pm
4 jamesfirecat  Sep 15, 2014 1:07:42pm

For once I have to disagree with you John, bagpipes are great to listen… so long as you’re not in an enclosed environment and are standing a reasonable distance away from them.

They’re a battlefield instrument, if the foe just runs away from the sound so much the better!

5 nines09  Sep 15, 2014 1:10:49pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

Once the person playing the pipes has learned how…..I thought sax and clarinet was painful until a kid took up the pipes about a quarter mile from me. When the air was right….John Oliver is a gift to us from across the pond. To say he has wit would be to say the Pacific Ocean has water.

6 Amory Blaine  Sep 15, 2014 1:11:14pm

Absentee ballot mailings halted in push to restart voter ID law

Local clerks and state elections officials are putting their absentee ballot mailings on hold as they hustle to reinstate Wisconsin’s photo ID requirement for voters in the wake of Friday’s federal appeals court decision.

The Milwaukee Elections Commission had been scheduled to start mailing out absentee ballots to voters Monday, but instead is suspending that work until Wednesday at least, director Neil Albrecht said. The deadline in state law to mail out the ballots to those requesting them is Thursday — so far 8,000 people in Milwaukee alone have requested them.

Albrecht said that like other local elections officials he is waiting on the state Government Accountability Board to provide clear guidance about what clerks need to do to make sure their voters’ ballots aren’t invalidated.

This whole election cycle is fucked.

7 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 1:12:27pm

Ben Shapiro offers much evidence for why Republicans should forget about playing nice with Democrats.

oh, is that what they were doing?

8 Randall Gross  Sep 15, 2014 1:13:51pm

“Ah yes - Nothing screams ‘Scottish Freedom!’ quite like a millionaire Australian Anti-Semite on Horseback…”

9 jamesfirecat  Sep 15, 2014 1:13:56pm

re: #5 nines09

Once the person playing the pipes has learned how…..I thought sax and clarinet was painful until a kid took up the pipes about a quarter mile from me. When the air was right….John Oliver is a gift to us from across the pond. To say he has wit would be to say the Pacific Ocean has water.

Maybe it’s just my Celtic heritage speaking but when done properly (which they often are not) bagpipes are great, see Girl They Call Fitzroy from Bioshock Infinite for an example of bagpipes done well.

That said, yes there are few instruments with more potential to screw up and worse results when you do.

10 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 1:14:04pm

re: #6 Amory Blaine

Absentee ballot mailings halted in push to restart voter ID law

This whole election cycle is fucked.

We could ask Jimmy Carter and some observers to oversee.

11 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 1:14:29pm

re: #7 dog philosopher

Ben Shapiro offers much evidence for why Republicans should forget about playing nice with Democrats.

oh, is that what they were doing?

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen Conservatives talk about ‘taking the gloves off’ and the like. Apparently they think that accusing your opponent of ‘Pallin’ ‘round with terr’rists’ and such is having the gloves ON.

12 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 1:15:26pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Maybe it’s just my Celtic heritage speaking but when done properly (which they often are not) bagpipes are great, see Girl They Call Fitzroy from Bioshock Infinite for an example of bagpipes done well.

That said, yes there are few instruments with more potential to screw up and worse results when you do.

I have a practice chanter and instructional DVD high in my clothes closet. There it will stay.

13 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 1:16:02pm

*lights a row of cubicles on fire, nukes them from orbit*

Rush Limbaugh on consent for sex: ‘No means yes if you know how to spot it’

“How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot it?” Limbaugh asked his male listeners. “I’m probably — let me tell you something, in this modern [world], that is simply, that’s not tolerated. People aren’t even going to try to understand that one.”

“It used to be a cliché, it used to be part of the advice young boys were given,” he added.

14 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 1:18:04pm

“How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot it?” Limbaugh asked his male listeners

ok spose i cut your fucking balls of will that be clear enuf??

15 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 1:19:27pm

re: #14 dog philosopher

“How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot it?” Limbaugh asked his male listeners

ok spose i cut your fucking balls of will that be clear enuf??

Well sure, as long as you ask…and remember that no means yes.

16 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 1:19:32pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Maybe it’s just my Celtic heritage speaking but when done properly (which they often are not) bagpipes are great, see Girl They Call Fitzroy from Bioshock Infinite for an example of bagpipes done well

i hear they sound best medium rare

17 Kid A  Sep 15, 2014 1:21:36pm
18 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 1:23:25pm

re: #14 dog philosopher

“How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot it?” Limbaugh asked his male listeners

ok spose i cut your fucking balls of will that be clear enuf??

I’m sure he’ll say he doesn’t want them removed, but no means yes, right?

19 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 1:24:31pm

re: #13 Lidane

*lights a row of cubicles on fire, nukes them from orbit*

Rush Limbaugh on consent for sex: ‘No means yes if you know how to spot it’

[Embedded image]

What he’s talking about is where you coerce, cajole, or browbeat a woman into having sex with you despite a lack of willingness on her part and then you get away with it. No, that’s not ‘No Means Yes’.

20 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 1:24:55pm

re: #18 Kragar

I’m sure he’ll say he doesn’t want them removed, but no means yes, right?

If you can spot it, yeah.

21 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 1:30:52pm

haggis is proof that scots peoples messed up the stuffed kishka recipe

gimme a visky and doan be stingy

22 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 1:34:12pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

I have a practice chanter and instructional DVD high in my clothes closet. There it will stay.

I have a practice chanter and instructional DVD.
Cats and dogs love chiming in whilst I practice.

23 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 1:34:26pm

I like the bagpipes.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 1:35:39pm

re: #23 b_sharp

I like the bagpipes.

Me, too.
I also like haggis.
And single malt Scotch.

And men in kilts…

25 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 1:39:14pm

re: #23 b_sharp

I like the bagpipes.

Same. The Commonwealth contingent at our base in Seoul was Ghurkas—their band played the nightly retreat in the central parade field. Once, for a week or so, our base in the Republic of the Marshall Islands had perhaps the highest per-capita density of pipers. There was one American in the permanent party, and an Australian flew in for a while to play on the beach with him.

26 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 1:41:29pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Me, too.
I also like haggis.
And single malt Scotch.

And men in kilts…

Not big on haggis, but I do drink single malt.

Meh for the men in kilts.

27 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 1:43:09pm

Again, there is one big parallel between the Scotland independence vote and the ‘88 Chilean plebiscite, the tones of the opposing campaigns. In both cases the campaigns for change are clearly positive, forward looking and uplifting, while the campaigns for maintaining the status quo are horribly patronizing, inept, laden with fear and dire heavy handed economic warnings against change.

28 iceweasel  Sep 15, 2014 1:46:10pm

This thread needs some Jesse Rae:

Youtube Video

29 Aye Pod  Sep 15, 2014 1:50:27pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Again, there is one big parallel between the Scotland independence vote and the ‘88 Chilean plebiscite, the tones of the opposing campaigns. In both cases the campaigns for change are clearly positive, forward looking and uplifting, while the campaigns for maintaining the status quo are horribly patronizing, inept, laden with fear and dire heavy handed economic warnings against change.

Totally. Every ‘no’ campaign plank is like :

What if Scotland is attacked by giant bears after independence?
WE JUST DON’T KNOW!

or Your money will fail! (We’ll make sure of that)

30 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 1:51:12pm

Let’s try some Nazareth.
Youtube Video

31 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 1:56:52pm

re: #29 Aye Pod

Totally. Every ‘no’ campaign plank is like :

What if Scotland is attacked by giant bears after independence?
WE JUST DON’T KNOW!

Size does matter.

32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 1:58:24pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

For once I have to disagree with you John, bagpipes are great to listen… so long as you’re not in an enclosed environment and are standing a reasonable distance away from them.

They’re a battlefield instrument, if the foe just runs away from the sound so much the better!

We were at Castle Glamis (home of MacBeth) and there was a piper out playing on the battlements all day. The sound of it lingered in my head and I could still hear it after we had left and driven miles away….haunting.

34 Aye Pod  Sep 15, 2014 2:00:06pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

Size does matter.

Tell that to Holland, Denmark and Norway to name a few that are just a quick trip away from here.

35 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:00:16pm

If it gets scary, one side or the other could build a big fence to control immigration.

Over the heather the wet wind blows,
I’ve lice in my tunic and a cold in my nose.

The rain comes pattering out of the sky,
I’m a Wall soldier, I don’t know why.

The mist creeps over the hard grey stone,
My girl’s in Tungria; I sleep alone.

Aulus goes hanging around her place,
I don’t like his manners, I don’t like his face.

Piso’s a Christian, he worships a fish;
There’d be no kissing if he had his wish.

She gave me a ring but I diced it away;
I want my girl and I want my pay.

When I’m a veteran with only one eye
I shall do nothing but look at the sky.

—Auden

36 Aye Pod  Sep 15, 2014 2:01:02pm

Youtube Video

See you guys after the referendum! :-)

37 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:03:34pm

re: #34 Aye Pod

Tell that to Holland, Denmark and Norway to name a few that are just a quick trip away from here.

They’re in NATO.

38 stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2014 2:07:21pm

re: #30 b_sharp

Let’s try some Nazareth.
[Embedded content]

I may be over 60, but I’d rather go with Teenage Fanclub than Nazareth.

39 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 2:10:11pm

re: #38 stpaulbear

I may be over 60, but I’d rather go with Teenage Fanclub than Nazareth.

Sorry, but Nazareth is in my ’70s drugs blood.

40 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 2:11:50pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

If it gets scary, one side or the other could build a big fence to control immigration.

The foundation’s already there, right?

41 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:18:18pm

re: #40 GeneJockey

Spot of stucco and some fresh camp followers, and they’re good to go.

42 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 2:23:55pm

re: #6 Amory Blaine

Absentee ballot mailings halted in push to restart voter ID law

This whole election cycle is fucked.

Which is just how the GOP want it.

43 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:37:10pm

Dogwalk. BBL

44 Aye Pod  Sep 15, 2014 3:39:37pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

They’re in NATO.

Just as well or they would definitely have been invaded by Russia, right? ;-)

Btw I did come back just to mention the timing of this NATO announcement as it is currently being rehashed in the media for referendum week. This is another example of what we are up against - established power, representing it’s own interests only, in a concerted effort to frighten the people of Scotland into maintaining the status quo - against our wishes. Quite honestly fuck ‘em if it comes down to it - we don’t need them anyway. We’ll just borrow some of the magical pixie dust that the republic of Ireland uses to keep itself safe. Seems to work just fine.

Later :)

45 nines09  Sep 15, 2014 8:51:10pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Maybe it’s just my Celtic heritage speaking but when done properly (which they often are not) bagpipes are great, see Girl They Call Fitzroy from Bioshock Infinite for an example of bagpipes done well.

That said, yes there are few instruments with more potential to screw up and worse results when you do.

One well hit opening note on the drone and I’m there riding along.

46 iceweasel  Sep 16, 2014 4:38:02am

Hmm. Since when have NATO been in the business of decreasing their membership? This must be a new strategy I haven’t heard of.

Also - think about this - a freshly independent, peaceful western country whose people have voted to get the nuclear weapons off their soil being strong-armed by NATO into keeping those nuclear weapons against their democratically expressed wishes, with threats of dismissal and the insinuation that they will be left to the wolves if they don’t comply?

If NATO behaved like that, they would lose all moral credibility. This is all just another bullshit scare story from the No campaign —which specialises in promoting fear and shutting down thought.


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