St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch Denies Raising Money for Darren Wilson

Backstoppers says they will not accept money to support Wilson
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We have an update on our post from last night about the fundraising effort that was apparently linked to an organization led by St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch; Backstoppers Inc. now denies having anything to do with it.

Leaders of The Backstoppers Inc., which raises money to financially support families of fallen emergency responders who die in the line of duty, do not know who is selling T-shirts that read: “I support Officer Darren Wilson,” and will not be accepting any money from the sales if it is offered, said Executive Director Ron Battelle.

Social media sites began circulating rumors this past weekend that profits from the T-shirts would benefit Backstoppers as well as a fundraising website for Wilson, who shot and killed Michael Brown in Ferguson. Some claimed the move was a conflict of interest for St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch.

So there you have it; but I do want to point out that this was more than just an unsubstantiated “rumor,” since the page at teespring.com specifically says donations from T-shirt purchases will go to Backstoppers.

A screenshot:

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451 comments
1 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 1:40:04pm

“We would’ve gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling libruls!”

2 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 15, 2014 1:40:25pm

Fine, one less on a longish list of why someone else needs to handle the matters at hand in terms of the Brown shooting and how that trigger happy police department conducts itself.

3 Mike Lamb  Sep 15, 2014 1:40:26pm

Starting today, we won’t be accepting any more money…

4 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 1:41:12pm

“Now that you’ve noticed what we’ve been up to, we’ll stop while we figure out another way to do the same thing.”

5 Shazam  Sep 15, 2014 1:44:47pm

How much money does a guy who is not and probably never will be charged with anything need? Didn’t he make a million off of a kickstarter anyway?

6 A Mom Anon  Sep 15, 2014 1:45:48pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

Actually, I wouldn’t check that off the list because it’s part of a pattern of carelessness at best, and outright conflict of interest and supporting someone who is a target of a criminal investigation at (almost) worst. A prosecutor has a sworn duty to be part of the judicial process and not be on the side of the criminal, if that’s what he wants to do, then he should quit and become a criminal defense attorney. He really should be fired, yesterday, for the way he’s handled this whole thing, and not just him either.

7 Bulworth  Sep 15, 2014 1:50:01pm

re:
#5

He has blown eye socket from being bumrushed by strong armed robbery thug. Hear is are File Photo!!11

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2014 1:50:17pm

How dare you call us out on our hypocrisy!

9 makeitstop  Sep 15, 2014 2:04:38pm

Is it slow here today, or is it just me?

10 Mike Lamb  Sep 15, 2014 2:05:58pm

re: #9 makeitstop

Is it slow here today, or is it just me?

It’s

just

you.

11 Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2014 2:07:34pm


B.S. Detector

12 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 2:07:35pm

re: #9 makeitstop

Is it slow here today, or is it just me?

I’ve been busy unfucking the work of the guy they fired today

13 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 2:07:35pm

It’s the fine print that always trips up the wingnuts, ok the regular sized print too.

14 makeitstop  Sep 15, 2014 2:08:01pm

re: #10 Mike Lamb

It’s

just

you.

It just seems like there’s not a lot of traffic/comments compared to an average day.

15 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 2:09:12pm

IT’S A TYPO, IT SHOULD HAVE READ BLACKSTOPPERS, NOT BACKSTOPPERS

16 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:10:06pm

re: #14 makeitstop

It just seems like there’s not a lot of traffic/comments compared to an average day.

The Scottish referendum has generated a more-active-than-usual page.

Someone will do something stupid in Kansas and we’ll come back to worrying about our own problems.

17 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 2:11:38pm

re: #11 Dr. Matt

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B.S. Detector

I am so stealing that.

18 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 2:11:45pm
19 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 2:12:31pm

re: #14 makeitstop

It just seems like there’s not a lot of traffic/comments compared to an average day.

I have trouble keeping up on an average day, so I’m not complaining.

20 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 2:13:19pm

It’s shit like this that makes me grateful that the Feds can and hopefully will get involved in prosecuting cases like this.

21 Mike Lamb  Sep 15, 2014 2:17:24pm

re: #14 makeitstop

It just seems like there’s not a lot of traffic/comments compared to an average day.

I know. It was just funnin’.

22 Jenner7  Sep 15, 2014 2:19:58pm

I went by to check out the memorial for Darrien Hunt this afternoon. Took everything in me not to start crying. It was very nice that Panda Express let them keep it there. There are notes about Darrien, pictures, and balloons.

This has to stop. It will eventually, won’t it?

23 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 15, 2014 2:22:59pm

re: #15 b.d.

IT’S A TYPO, IT SHOULD HAVE READ BLACKSTOPPERS, NOT BACKSTOPPERS

You win the Internet for today.

24 simoom  Sep 15, 2014 2:26:08pm

Five days before the New Zealand election, Kim Dotcom paid for Greenwald to travel to Dotcom’s political party’s event, and also arranged for Assange and Snowden to appear remotely.

CNN: Snowden, Assange, Greenwald, Dotcom: Can this gang of four take down a PM?

NSA leaker Edward Snowden accused New Zealand Prime Minister John Key of misleading the public over the country’s spying activities, as the nation’s explosive election campaign reached a crescendo Monday.

…

Journalist Glenn Greenwald, who broke the NSA leaks story, appeared in Auckland alongside Dotcom, lawyer Robert Amsterdam, and Laila Harre, the leader of the political party founded by Dotcom, while Snowden and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange spoke via video-link.

Reuters: Glenn Greenwald And Edward Snowden Are Shaking Up A New Zealand Election

Dotcom, who is fighting extradition to the United States on charges of internet piracy, copyright breaches, and money laundering, has paid for Greenwald’s trip to New Zealand.

Greenwald appeared at a public meeting of more than 1,000 people organized by a political party being bankrolled by Dotcom, at which the ebullient German had promised revelations damaging to Key.

A little background on who they’ve all hitched their wagons to:

Ars Technica: Mega-man: The fast, fabulous, fraudulent life of Megaupload’s Kim Dotcom

In the early 1990s, Schmitz used a little hacker cred and the growing paranoia over the powers of computer hackers and phreakers to launch a media-powered cybersecurity career. …

Giving his hacker handle “Kimble” (which he later claimed was taken from the name of the main character in the film The Fugitive), and claiming to be the leader of an international hacker group called Dope, Schmitz said he had hacked hundreds of US companies’ PBX systems and was selling the access codes at $200 a pop, bragging that “every PBX is an open door to me.” He also claimed to have developed an encrypted phone that could not be tapped, and to have sold a hundred of them.

In his 2001 interview with the Telegraph, he also claimed to have hacked Citibank and transferred $20 million to Greenpeace, a claim refuted by Greenpeace, which had a total operating budget of just twice that in the mid-1990s. (While Citi was hacked in 1996, it was by a group of Russian hackers—and they certainly didn’t donate the money to charity.) He also claimed to have hacked NASA and said that he had accessed Pentagon systems to read top-secret information on Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War.

There’s no record to substantiate most of this; perhaps some of it is true. What he did do was steal phone calling card codes and conduct a premium number fraud similar to the recent rash of Filipino phreaking frauds. He bought stolen phone card account information from American hackers. After setting up premium toll chat lines in Hong Kong and in the Caribbean, he used a “war dialer” program to call the lines using the stolen card numbers—ringing up EUR 61,000 in ill-gained profits.

Schmitz was also playing pirate in other ways. Andreas Bogk, a member of the Chaos Computer Club, recently told the Wall Street Journal that Schmitz set up a computer system for the uploading and downloading of pirated PC software, charging people for access. (Schmitz exposed the scheme in an interview with a German television news program, and it was subsequently shut down by Deutsche Telekom.)

Schmitz’s efforts to branch into the “legit” world of security consulting with his security company Data Protect initially backfired by exposing his real identity—and by allowing it to be connected to his hacker credentials. In March of 1994, he was arrested by police for trafficking in stolen phone calling card numbers. He was held in custody for a month, then arrested again on additional hacking charges shortly afterward—and again released. In 1998, he was convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud, 10 counts of data espionage, and an assortment of other charges. He received a two-year suspended sentence—because, at just 20, he was declared “under age” at the time the crimes were committed.

…

In January 2001, as the dot-com crash was starting to gain momentum, LetsBuyIt was close to bankruptcy. Schmitz bought 375,000 euros in the company’s shares—and then announced he was preparing to invest an additional 50 million Euros. “I’m completely convinced LetsBuyIt can reach profitability despite its current problems,” he told the Guardian.

The news hit the market, and the stock price of LetsBuyIt surged. Schmitz cashed out, making a profit of EUR 1.5 million. Perhaps Schmitz was just ignorant of the legal ramifications of what he had done— insider trading wasn’t even a crime in Germany until 1995.

…

With insider trading charges pending over LetsBuyIt, Schmitz decided it was time to lay low (by his standards); “in fear for his life,” he fled to Thailand in January of 2002. On his website, he hinted at possible suicide, saying he would be crossing “to a new world,” Hale-Bopp cult style. But instead of offing himself, he declared that he wanted to be known as “King Kimble the First, Ruler of the Kimpire”—a label he would apply to his future projects. (It’s listed as his title on LinkedIn.)

As it turned out, Thailand wasn’t happy to see him. He was promptly arrested and fast-track deported to Germany to stand trial. However, the few nights in a Thai jail turned out to be the worst of it, as fears of prison in Germany were unfounded—he was sentenced to 20 months probation and slapped with a EUR 100,000 fine. In 2003, he pled guilty to embezzlement charges over the Monkey “loan” and received another two years of probation.

…

Schmitz officially changed his legal name to Kim Dotcom—and used his Finnish heritage to register a passport under the name “Kim Tim Jim Vestor” as well, using the address of a step-sibling in Turku, Finland. The Vestor persona was used in the creation of Vestor Limited. It wasn’t until 2007 that Kim Dotcom was revealed to be connected in any way to Megaupload, and his role as founder wasn’t revealed until 2011 by the company.

25 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 2:32:46pm

re: #24 simoom

Interesting people around GG—megabucks and micro-morals.

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 2:46:49pm

Iffen y’all haven’t seen these two videos yet, you must before they disappear.
Two Jewish guys from Jersey went to Sarah Palin’s house, were invited indoors, Sarah apparently broadcast the meet on her “pay per view channel”, but the guys also taped the meet, and then there’s a bonus after-meet tape Sunday morning in their hotel room…

youtube.com

(h/t to a commenter at Politicalgates; I bookmarked the link at the time and just now had a chance to watch it, but can’t find who originally found it.)

27 simoom  Sep 15, 2014 2:54:12pm

re: #24 simoom

Snowden, to the audience at Dotcom’s Politcal Party’s event:

nzherald.co.nz

This evening to huge cheers he told the audience that if political leaders were ”going to use check boxes against us… election time is when we get to check boxes about them.”

And Greenwald, answering reporters’ questions w/ Dotcom, following the completion of the event:

Questioned about his motivations about the timing of his reports and visits, Greenwald told reporters, ”The suggestion we have some sort of interest in shaping the outcome of your election… is absurd”.

Uh-huh.

28 danarchy  Sep 15, 2014 2:54:14pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Iffen y’all haven’t seen these two videos yet, you must before they disappear.
Two Jewish guys from Jersey went to Sarah Palin’s house, were invited indoors, Sarah apparently broadcast the meet on her “pay per view channel”, but the guys also taped the meet, and then there’s a bonus after-meet tape Sunday morning in their hotel room…

youtube.com

(h/t to a commenter at Politicalgates; I bookmarked the link at the time and just now had a chance to watch it, but can’t find who originally found it.)

I only watched the first few seconds of video, but why oh why do people continue recording video in portrait mode. It drives me crazy.

29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 2:54:27pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t get it…

30 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 2:56:18pm

re: #27 simoom

And Greenwald, following the completion of the event:

“The suggestion we have some sort of interest in shaping the outcome of your election… is absurd”.
Uh-huh.

I am amazed at GG’s ability to blatantly state bold-faced lies with a straight face. Not surprised, but … amazed.

31 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 2:56:34pm

re: #28 danarchy

I only watched the first few seconds of video, but why oh why do people continue recording video in portrait mode. It drives me crazy.

Was thinking the same thing.

32 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 2:58:48pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Iffen y’all haven’t seen these two videos yet, you must before they disappear.
Two Jewish guys from Jersey went to Sarah Palin’s house, were invited indoors, Sarah apparently broadcast the meet on her “pay per view channel”, but the guys also taped the meet, and then there’s a bonus after-meet tape Sunday morning in their hotel room…

youtube.com

(h/t to a commenter at Politicalgates; I bookmarked the link at the time and just now had a chance to watch it, but can’t find who originally found it.)

I downloaded them and will watch them later on.

33 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 2:59:14pm

re: #28 danarchy

I only watched the first few seconds of video, but why oh why do people continue recording video in portrait mode. It drives me crazy.

re: #31 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Because that’s the way they’re used to holding their phone. I think there’s actually a way to correct portrait-mode video in the settings somewhere, but people don’t quite know how to set their clocks on their DVR players (or whatever), so it’s not surprising.

Also, I blame Vine and Instagram video with their square format video, which makes it a non-issue for those services.

34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:00:55pm

35 Mentis Fugit  Sep 15, 2014 3:11:20pm

re: #30 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I am amazed at GG’s ability to blatantly state bold-faced lies with a straight face. Not surprised, but … amazed.

If an overheard conversation on the train this morning is any guide, we’re not buying it.

36 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 3:12:12pm

re: #1 Lidane

“We would’ve gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling libruls!”

I love the part when the gang pull of the monster mask and exclaim “OLD MAN McCULLOUGH???”

37 Mentis Fugit  Sep 15, 2014 3:12:46pm

re: #31 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Was thinking the same thing.

Now that my second monitor is in portrait orientation I can actually view vertical video full screen. Nevertheless, please don’t…

38 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 3:12:56pm

Two wildly contradictory news items from the UK in the past week:

1) U.K. community organizes force to tackle organized faith healing scammers

2) Homeopaths get professional accreditation in UK

39 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 3:13:21pm

re: #34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

[Embedded image]

Wait, I was told it was all about The Gays doing stuff. You mean they’ve been lying about that?
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40 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 3:14:35pm

Extremely patient dog not included.

41 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 3:15:56pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Iffen y’all haven’t seen these two videos yet, you must before they disappear.
Two Jewish guys from Jersey went to Sarah Palin’s house, were invited indoors, Sarah apparently broadcast the meet on her “pay per view channel”, but the guys also taped the meet, and then there’s a bonus after-meet tape Sunday morning in their hotel room…

youtube.com

(h/t to a commenter at Politicalgates; I bookmarked the link at the time and just now had a chance to watch it, but can’t find who originally found it.)

Welp, that was 4 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.

42 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:17:17pm

re: #39 Kragar

Wait, I was told it was all about The Gays doing stuff. You mean they’ve been lying about that?
////

Well, the original story doesn’t really mention the exact reason. So later commentators (Ezekiel being among them) have different takes on the issue.

But yeah, there’s a contradiction here, if one is a literalist fundie.

43 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 3:17:18pm

re: #28 danarchy

I only watched the first few seconds of video, but why oh why do people continue recording video in portrait mode. It drives me crazy.

And it was Blair Witch shakey. I got nauseous. (Commentary on the filming and the subject.)

44 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 3:17:49pm

re: #41 WhatEVs

Welp, that was 4 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.

Why do you think I DLed them. I’ll watch them when I need to kills some time and braincells.

45 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 3:19:49pm

re: #42 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, the original story doesn’t really mention the exact reason. So later commentators (Ezekiel being among them) have different takes on the issue.

But yeah, there’s a contradiction here, if one is a literalist fundie.

Eh, being a literalist fundamentalist means never having to acknowledge or accept the contradictions in the book. “God said it, I believe it, that settles it,” as they say.

46 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 3:21:42pm

adrian peterson

i was taught to stay far away from vikings and their longships

47 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:24:01pm

re: #45 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Eh, being a literalist fundamentalist means never having to acknowledge or accept the contradictions in the book. “God said it, I believe it, that settles it,” as they say.

Sure, I didn’t mean to imply that this would make them think ;)

48 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 3:24:13pm

How is everyone these days? : )

re: #24 simoom

The Gang of Four are using an age old trick: Make allegations against the authorities you want to “take down” by trying to distract from your own illegal behavior, lies, and subterfuge.

It’s pretty transparent when you look at them individually. And those who do it seek each other out, just as anyone in any criminal enterprise would do.

49 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 3:24:15pm

re: #34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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this graphic made me navigate to the unfundamentalist christian webpage

what we believe

Jesus Christ was God incarnate. He performed miracles; as a means of providing for the irrevocable reconciliation of humankind to God he sacrificed himself on the cross; he rose from the dead; he left behind for the benefit of all people the totality of himself in the form of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

The Bible is not a contract stipulating the rules for being a Christian. It is an ancient, massive, infinitely complex tome comprising songs, visions, histories, dreams, parables, commandments, and more. Christians seeking to follow the Word of God must look to all the words of God, ever seeking within those words the spirit of Jesus Christ. This means never failing to choose love, compassion and charity over adherence to any Biblical “law” that in practice or spirit violates Christ’s Great Commandment to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.

Christianity is supposed to be all about nothing more (and nothing less!) than living a life of love, compassion, fairness, peace, and humility.

The Biblical scholarship supporting the idea that Paul never wrote a word condemning natural homosexuality is more credible and persuasive than is the scholarship claiming that he did. Moreover, we remain mystified as to how any follower of Jesus could choose damning an entire population over obeying Jesus’ Great Commandment to love God and one’s neighbor as oneself.

God does not want any woman automatically “submitting” to her husband or to anyone else.

Using masculine pronouns to refer to God is strictly a matter of convention, a profoundly unfortunate necessity of the English language, which to date offers no satisfactory alternative. But God is neither male nor female. God is always, at once, both and unimaginably more.

The belief that throughout history God chose to introduce himself in different ways into different culture streams is more reasonable, respectful, and compassionate than is the conviction that there is only one correct way to understand and worship God.

There is no support in the Bible for the morally repugnant idea that hell is an actual place to which God sentences people to spend eternity in mortal agony.

God’s will and intention is to forgive and teach us, not to judge and punish us.

Anyone desiring to mix Church and State has failed to understand the nature and proper role of either.

God can handle converting people. Our job is to love people.

An all-powerful God and the theory of evolution are not incompatible.

Getting a divorce is painful, and if at all possible should certainly be avoided. But in and of itself divorce is not immoral.

The single most telling indicator of a person’s moral character has nothing to do with how they define or worship God, and everything to do with how they treat others.

50 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 3:27:12pm

re: #47 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sure, I didn’t mean to imply that this would make them think ;)

Heh. Interestingly, I once heard a fundie pastor, John MacArthur, say in a sermon “sometimes, it’s best to have a closed mind.” So, yeah. :)

51 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 3:27:47pm

Black Dentist Forced To Resign All-White Dental Practice Over Support For Michael Brown

“The partner held up the picture and asked Misee “Do you think we (meaning Misee’s white colleagues) are all like this?”

Posted to her personal Facebook.

52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:29:20pm

Strictly speaking, if one is an honest literalist fundie, then one won’t go with the “gays” version at all, since it’s nowhere in the Bible.

We have Ezekiel implying the sin was being cruel to those in need.

We have Jesus (allegedly) implying that Sodom’s & Gomorrah’s sin had something to do with how one treats strangers.

Finally, Paul says it had to do with turning to “strange flesh”. But what that means, nobody seems to know. Could that be a reference to sodomy? Maybe, but just as easily it could be a reference to rape or sex outside of marriage.

53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:29:57pm

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

Heeey, how have you been?

54 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 3:33:22pm

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Strictly speaking, if one is an honest literalist fundie, then one won’t go with the “gays” version at all, since it’s nowhere in the Bible.

We have Ezekiel implying the sin was being cruel to those in need.

We have Jesus (allegedly) implying that Sodom’s & Gomorrah’s sin had something to do with how one treats strangers.

Finally, Paul says it had to do with turning to “strange flesh”. But what that means, nobody seems to know. Could that be a reference to sodomy? Maybe, but just as easily it could be a reference to rape or sex outside of marriage.

IIRC, the implication in the original story was that the inhabitants were all sorts of fucked up wrt sexuality and various other things (like not taking care of the poor and strangers), and wanted to sleep with the angels (maybe that’s where the “strange flesh” came from). There’s a lot of twisted shit in the old testament.

55 Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2014 3:34:05pm

re: #51 ausador

“As a matter of fact…”

56 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 3:34:27pm

re: #53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Heeey, how have you been?

Excellent! Enjoying the meat world.

You?

57 Frenchy  Sep 15, 2014 3:36:32pm

re: #49 dog philosopher

This is NOT going to go over well with Bryan Fischer and a certain Right Reverend Huckabee.

58 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 3:37:43pm

re: #57 Frenchy

This is NOT going to go over well with Bryan Fischer and a certain Right Reverend Huckabee.

grumpycatgood.jpg

59 De Kolta Chair  Sep 15, 2014 3:39:00pm

Not sure if it’s a red herring.

60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:39:58pm

re: #49 dog philosopher

The Biblical scholarship supporting the idea that Paul never wrote a word condemning natural homosexuality is more credible and persuasive than is the scholarship claiming that he did.

I think this is also an agenda. It may be less harmful than that of fundies, but it’s still wishful thinking.

61 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 3:41:28pm

re: #57 Frenchy

This is NOT going to go over well with Bryan Fischer and a certain Right Reverend Huckabee.

and then there are the feelings of christians to take into account as well…

62 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:41:34pm

re: #54 Rev_Arthur_Belling

IIRC, the implication in the original story was that the inhabitants were all sorts of fucked up wrt sexuality and various other things (like not taking care of the poor and strangers), and wanted to sleep with the angels (maybe that’s where the “strange flesh” came from). There’s a lot of twisted shit in the old testament.

Also, the “because gay” interpretation implies that everything would’ve been hunky-dory if they only gang-raped females.

63 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:42:12pm

re: #56 Justanotherhuman

Excellent! Enjoying the meat world.

You?

Same :D

64 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 3:44:56pm

re: #62 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Also, the “because gay” interpretation implies that everything would’ve been hunky-dory if they only gang-raped females.

Well, didn’t Lot offer up his daughters? Ugh, that story is gross all the way around.

65 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:47:46pm

re: #64 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, didn’t Lot offer up his daughters?

Ancient-Near-Eastern hospitality FTW :)

66 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 3:48:57pm

re: #64 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, didn’t Lot offer up his daughters? Ugh, that story is gross all the way around.

I thought “biblical scholars” have offered up the notion that Lot’s daughters plotted to get daddy drunk and have sex with him.

Of course, blame it on gays, blame it on women, just don’t blame it on the real perps. Been going on ever since Eve…

67 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 3:49:11pm

I get the feeling I probably don’t want to know…

Ok, thats…uhh…good. See ya then…

68 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 3:49:42pm

re: #57 Frenchy

This is NOT going to go over well with Bryan Fischer and a certain Right Reverend Huckabee.

reading it over, actually i’d have to say that what the UC are preaching is not christianity but judaism

69 whitebeach  Sep 15, 2014 3:50:21pm

” … said [Backstoppers] Executive Director Ron Battelle”

This has gotta be the “former St. Louis County Police Chief Ron Battelle” seen, in the original post on this subject, along with McCulloch fondling a nearly $300K check allegedly raised through some fundraising event involving Backstoppers.

Jesus, these motherfuckers in St. Louis County like to keep it all in the clubhouse, don’t they?

70 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 3:50:51pm
71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:51:38pm

Scholarship doesn’t become more convincing just because it serves some noble social goals. It was basically only John Boswell who tried to reinterpret Paul’s clear anti-homosexual quotes. His attempts have not been found persuasive by most other scholars. It may be sad in a way, because that means that Paul’s moldy, 2000 y.o. teachings will still poison the well long after we’re gone, but, well, facts are facts.

72 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 15, 2014 3:52:21pm

Do they say they won’t accept any money from the sales of these shirts. Well. How exactly will anyone know?

73 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 3:52:28pm

re: #64 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, didn’t Lot offer up his daughters?

i guess the proper answer would be “thanks a lot!”

74 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:53:35pm

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

I thought “biblical scholars” have offered up the notion that Lot’s daughters plotted to get daddy drunk and have sex with him.

Of course, blame it on gays, blame it on women, just don’t blame it on the real perps. Been going on ever since Eve…

Funny thing though. Lot was such a swell guy that God even hesitated destroying the 2 cities because of him. Then he is quickly seduced by his daughters and his career as a saint is ruined. “He was no angel”.

75 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 15, 2014 3:54:07pm

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

I thought “biblical scholars” have offered up the notion that Lot’s daughters plotted to get daddy drunk and have sex with him.

Of course, blame it on gays, blame it on women, just don’t blame it on the real perps. Been going on ever since Eve…

That was later (Gen. 19:30-36). He offered his daughters up to the crowd in Gen 19:8.

(edited to provide the correct chapter number in the first citation)

76 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 3:54:17pm

re: #70 b.d.

“I would have a modicum of respect for the guy if he [Greenwald] had the guts to turn up here six months before the election, or six months after,” Prime Minister Key retorted in a radio interview before the event. “If this loser is going to come to town and try and tell me, five days before an election, staying at the Dotcom mansion with all the Dotcom people and being paid by Dotcom, that he’s doing anything other than Dotcom’s bidding - please don’t insult me with that.”

77 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 3:55:20pm

re: #34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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It’s somewhat disturbing that whoever made that meme chose a load of stale bagels to make a point for Christians.

78 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 3:56:13pm

re: #70 b.d.

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It really must have been thick, with all those massive egos in one meeting. How in hell could anyone actually stand it?

: )

79 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 3:56:37pm

re: #77 Pie-onist Overlord

I thought these were donuts or something.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 3:57:01pm

re: #42 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, the original story doesn’t really mention the exact reason. So later commentators (Ezekiel being among them) have different takes on the issue.

But yeah, there’s a contradiction here, if one is a literalist fundie.

Well, the people of Sodom wanted to gang-rape the angels.

Not because they were Teh Ghey, but because it was their custom to abuse the poor and helpless, which included raping the homeless.

81 danarchy  Sep 15, 2014 3:57:23pm

re: #68 dog philosopher

reading it over, actually i’d have to say that what the UC are preaching is not christianity but judaism

I think the “Jesus Christ was God incarnate” part kinda makes that a non starter…

82 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 4:00:46pm

re: #81 danarchy

I think the “Jesus Christ was God incarnate” part kinda makes that a non starter…

well, true - what i really should say is that a lot of the propositions - e.g., non-existence of hell - are closer to jewish belief than regular christian

83 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:00:54pm

re: #81 danarchy

I think the “Jesus Christ was God incarnate” part kinda makes that a non starter…

Yeah. I think it’s a pretty standard liberal version of Christianity.

84 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:03:18pm

Hey look. I just got an email from John McCain.

Click to Reveal

(Me)

I’ll get right to the point.

Right now, we’re quite literally in a battle for the future of America.

Our way of life - our freedom, our security, our hope for a prosperous future for all of our families and our children’s children - could be put at risk if Barack Obama and the Democrats win total control of our government again on November 4.

There’s too much at stake at home and abroad to just sit back and let it happen. Times like these demand real, decisive, principled leadership from America’s leaders.

And with the elections just 50 days away, we do not have a moment to waste.

Today, there are barbaric acts of violence and destruction taking place throughout the world that are a threat to our freedom. And there’s very little stability at home when it comes to our economy, jobs and energy production.

Despite the Democrats’ distortions and lies, facts are stubborn things. And the truth is we need strong Republican leadership to restore peace and prosperity at home and throughout the world.

(Me), if the RNC is going to be able to fully fund the nationwide Get-Out-The-Vote efforts and provide the technology and data necessary to win a Republican Senate Majority and maintain our Majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, we must raise more than $4 million in the next 15 days.

We must have your help to meet this goal right now.

That is why I’m calling on you, as a loyal member of our Party, to join me in giving at least $1 for each of the 36 Senate seats up for election. That’s a $36 contribution toward taking back the Senate, stopping Obama’s destructive agenda and redirecting our nation’s course.

Your $36 contribution blah blah blah. It will allow the RNC to make double the investments necessary to carry out our winning strategy these next 50 days.

I am determined to do whatever I can to secure a Republican Senate Majority in November. Stand with me and commit to victory.

Thank you,

Senator John McCain

Donate

Yeee fucking ha

85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:04:27pm

Fuck McCain. Fuckity fuckity fuck McCain.

86 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 4:04:33pm

re: #71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Scholarship doesn’t become more convincing just because it serves some noble social goals. It was basically only John Boswell who tried to reinterpret Paul’s clear anti-homosexual quotes. His attempts have not been found persuasive by most other scholars. It may be sad in a way, because that means that Paul’s moldy, 2000 y.o. teachings will still poison the well long after we’re gone, but, well, facts are facts.

No? Aw, nuts.

//

87 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:05:49pm

re: #85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fuck McCain. Fuckity fuckity fuck McCain.

I waaaaaaahnt more than one upding!
:-D

88 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 4:08:20pm

re: #87 WhatEVs

I waaaaaaahnt more than one upding!
:-D

Fine. Have one for each. :-)

89 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 4:08:24pm

re: #84 WhatEVs

Hey look. I just got an email from John McCain.

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Yeee fucking ha

Cripes, did we dodge a bullet or what?!? Imagine the world with Cranky McAngry and Caribou Barbie in charge.

Of course, the latter would probably have been able to make it through the entire 4 years of the first term….

90 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 4:08:54pm

re: #87 WhatEVs

I waaaaaaahnt more than one upding!
:-D

And I want these ISIL murderers contained. Criminal bastards. If they ever had a real cause, it’s been destroyed by their own hands.

US launches 1st offensive airstrikes against Islamic State near Baghdad, defense officials tell @NBCNews
read more on nbcnews.com

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:11:19pm

Correction: the strange flesh verse is from “Jude”, not from Paul.

Jude 1:7

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

92 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:14:24pm

re: #89 GeneJockey

Cripes, did we dodge a bullet or what?!? Imagine the world with Cranky McAngry and Caribou Barbie in charge.

Of course, the latter would probably have been able to make it through the entire 4 years of the first term….

The later would have likely gone all Greek tragedy on the former’s ass (pick your poison) to become POTUS by default.

93 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:15:48pm

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

I thought “biblical scholars” have offered up the notion that Lot’s daughters plotted to get daddy drunk and have sex with him.

Of course, blame it on gays, blame it on women, just don’t blame it on the real perps. Been going on ever since Eve…

IIRC, and I’m not going to go Googling, there were several similar instances of incest in the OT.

Like I said, if this shit were not in the holy texts, fundies would be demanding that it be banned.

94 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 15, 2014 4:16:43pm

Re snowaldasskim: With each man’s head so deep up their own behind, how do they communicate with each other? Or have they just merged into a single horrific creature, like King Ghidorah? (Or, if you’re a fan of obscure WTF horror movies, like Brian Yuzna’s Society?)

Re Lot and his daughters: This was actually part of a recent Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal strip, which subsequently became a thing at Cheezburger, where way too many people argued the relevance of Lot’s story, thereby completely missing the point. Oh my head.

Re Darren Wilson: Where is Murderpig, anyway? Are we ever going to hear from him? (Yeah, rhetorical question.)

95 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:18:21pm

re: #90 Justanotherhuman

I think we all want that. Ideally at the hands of other Muslims in the areas that ISIL is in. Those murderous bastards are killing them more than us.

That said, good on Obama.

96 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 4:20:18pm
97 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:21:10pm

re: #96 b.d.

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Just heard that story on NPR a bit ago. Good to see these soldiers recognized for their bravery.

98 danarchy  Sep 15, 2014 4:22:06pm

re: #82 dog philosopher

well, true - what i really should say is that a lot of the propositions - e.g., non-existence of hell - are closer to jewish belief than regular christian

Guess that depends on how you define regular christian belief. There are lots of christian off shoots, some extremely liberal, like unitarianism, or universalism. Most are somewhere between there and fundamentalism. Even Roman catholicism teaches that hell doesn’t exist as a place, it is just the state of being separated from God.

99 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 4:23:02pm

re: #97 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Just heard that story on NPR a bit ago. Good to see these soldiers recognized for their bravery.

CBS Evening News did a great job on this too and had a nice interview with him. Pretty incredible.

100 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:24:19pm

re: #98 danarchy

Guess that depends on how you define regular christian belief. There are lots of christian off shoots, some extremely liberal, like unitarianism, or universalism. Most are somewhere between there and fundamentalism. Even Roman catholicism teaches that hell doesn’t exist as a place, it is just the state of being separated from God.

Yep. “Regular” Christian is no longer an applicable construct (hell, it hasn’t been for thousands of years - look at the Catholic/Orthodox split), no matter what the fundamentalists want to tell you.

101 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:24:53pm

re: #94 Chez Ko Pe

Ahh, love both Yuzna and SMBC. :D

102 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:25:21pm

re: #99 b.d.

CBS Evening News did a great job on this too and had a nice interview with him. Pretty incredible.

Got a link? I was in the car, and it was a brief read-through about it. Would love to see the interview.

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 4:25:23pm

re: #87 WhatEVs

I waaaaaaahnt more than one upding!
:-D

I was out doing barn chores, so you got my upding late.
Kinda of fitting since some scooping of poop was involved…
:D

104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:25:56pm

re: #96 b.d.

A very positive photo :)

105 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 4:30:06pm

Is it still hot as hell in SoCal? Heard about these awful fires on the news. Just awful.

Officials: Approximately 75 structures destroyed in Boles Fire near Weed, Calif; schools, residents evacuated - @ActionNewsNow
end of alert

106 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 4:30:30pm

This is stupid.

107 klys  Sep 15, 2014 4:32:45pm

re: #105 Justanotherhuman

Is it still hot as hell in SoCal? Heard about these awful fires on the news. Just awful.

Officials: Approximately 75 structures destroyed in Boles Fire near Weed, Calif; schools, residents evacuated - @ActionNewsNow
end of alert

I believe it is still hot in SoCal, but Weed is northern. Near Mt. Shasta.

108 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 4:33:26pm

re: #106 Gus

This is stupid.

You got that right.

109 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 4:33:53pm

re: #106 Gus

This is stupid.

No. Not stupid. Hateful is a better word but even it doesn’t quite convey what they’re doing.

Malice with forethought perhaps.

But not stupid. They know exactly what evil they preach.

110 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 4:34:45pm

re: #102 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Got a link? I was in the car, and it was a brief read-through about it. Would love to see the interview.

cbsnews.com

This is a link to a 3 minute interview with Adkins telling his story and it is pretty great, I’ll look for a link to the entire segment which they aired tonight.

111 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 4:34:54pm

re: #107 klys

I believe it is still hot in SoCal, but Weed is northern. Near Mt. Shasta.

Yeah, I was thinking of Orange Co, though, which was reported on last night, with awful looking fires.

112 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 4:35:29pm

Got more! Like…

113 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:35:41pm

re: #106 Gus

This is stupid.

This is just another attempt to attack the traditional family and undermine the importance of marriage.

Those two things are soooo not the same.

114 prairiefire  Sep 15, 2014 4:35:48pm

re: #45 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Eh, being a literalist fundamentalist means never having to acknowledge or accept the contradictions in the book. “God said it, I believe it, that settles it,” as they say.

There are sooo many contradictions in the Bible. Paradoxes and parables. Keeps us on our toes.
May I remind all those white mega-rich, mega churches, “the meek shall inherit the earth.”

115 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:35:54pm

re: #110 b.d.

cbsnews.com

This is a link to a 3 minute interview with Adkins telling his story and it is pretty great, I’ll look for a link to the entire segment which they aired tonight.

Thanks!

116 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:36:33pm

Thanks for the updings, guys (muah’s all around!)…but I wanted more to give to this comment:
—> re: #85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fuck McCain. Fuckity fuckity fuck McCain.

That was hysterical!!

117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:38:10pm

re: #112 Gus

Sigh. Lessons won’t be learned, it seems.

118 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:39:20pm

re: #106 Gus

This is stupid.

Meh. Traditional family bullshit. Not that I think having two good parents is a bad thing; it’s not. But once you throw in the “Traditional Family” bullshit it’s not about family any longer. It doesn’t even resemble family.

119 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 4:39:44pm

re: #117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sigh. Lessons won’t be learned, it seems.

Noun, verb, YOU ARE AN OUTRAGE JUNKIE!

120 Floral Giraffe  Sep 15, 2014 4:41:30pm

re: #67 ausador

I get the feeling I probably don’t want to know…

Ok, thats…uhh…good. See ya then…

Shrubbery!!!!

121 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 4:41:46pm

re: #92 WhatEVs

The later would have likely gone all Greek tragedy on the former’s ass (pick your poison) to become POTUS by default.

And then quit. after 1/2 term, and tell us that she could have stayed and done the job, but that’s what quitters do.

122 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:41:48pm

Harris:

And though the phrase “extra estrogen vibe,” spoken in a tone that acknowledged its silliness, also got a laugh, Boorstein surely knew that setting it down in print would make me look stupid.

Then you got into your own trap.

123 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:41:58pm

re: #112 Gus

124 Floral Giraffe  Sep 15, 2014 4:42:18pm

re: #105 Justanotherhuman

Yes, and it’s not cooling off at night :(

125 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 4:43:49pm

re: #123 WhatEVs

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But that’s hard to do!

126 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 4:44:23pm

re: #125 GeneJockey

But that’s hard to do!

Apparently so.

127 urbanmeemaw  Sep 15, 2014 4:45:40pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, the people of Sodom wanted to gang-rape the angels.

Not because they were Teh Ghey, but because it was their custom to abuse the poor and helpless, which included raping the homeless.

In other words, Rethuglicans. No wonder they “love” the Bible.

128 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 4:46:47pm

Derp.

129 klys  Sep 15, 2014 4:47:14pm
130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:48:47pm

re: #129 klys

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Looks like devil.

131 klys  Sep 15, 2014 4:49:45pm

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Looks like devil.

I-5 is currently closed up there.

132 stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2014 4:51:16pm

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Looks like devil.

That’s what I saw too.

133 klys  Sep 15, 2014 4:51:34pm

One more day and I get the house back. Tomorrow morning. Blessed silence.

134 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 4:51:41pm

re: #128 Gus

He seems busy with important writings.

135 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 4:52:53pm

re: #128 Gus

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Derp.

He is such an insufferable ass.

136 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 4:53:11pm

re: #134 jaunte

He seems busy with important writings.

Yeah. Took me two days to type out my Tweet! Two days! //

137 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 4:53:37pm

re: #100 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Yep. “Regular” Christian is no longer an applicable construct (hell, it hasn’t been for thousands of years - look at the Catholic/Orthodox split), no matter what the fundamentalists want to tell you.

not to mention the catholic/orthodontist split…

138 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 4:53:41pm

I don’t even know who Conor Friedensderp is.

139 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:54:01pm

re: #24 simoom

Five days before the New Zealand election, Kim Dotcom paid for Greenwald to travel to Dotcom’s political party’s event, and also arranged for Assange and Snowden to appear remotely.

CNN: Snowden, Assange, Greenwald, Dotcom: Can this gang of four take down a PM?

Reuters: Glenn Greenwald And Edward Snowden Are Shaking Up A New Zealand Election

A little background on who they’ve all hitched their wagons to:

Ars Technica: Mega-man: The fast, fabulous, fraudulent life of Megaupload’s Kim Dotcom

…

They call Kim Dotcom ‘Mega-Man’, eh? To take him down a peg, Koch Industries needs to fund Dr. Wiley.

140 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 4:55:06pm
141 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:55:20pm

re: #138 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I don’t even know who Conor Friedensderp is.

He’s a pro-Greenwald dudebro (as if there were any other kind).

142 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 4:55:51pm

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Looks like devil.

Like a devil bear.

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 4:57:12pm

We got back from Toronto and it feels like we got back from overseas.

144 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 4:57:44pm

re: #140 Bubblehead II

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Their server seems to be down.

145 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 4:58:27pm

Off to bend the electorate of Lower Alabama to my political will. Found a way to turn making GOTV calls into a drinking game. BBL

146 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 4:59:33pm

re: #140 Bubblehead II

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UNPOSSIBLE!! NOBAMA WON’T TAKE ANY ACTION AGAINST THE TERRISTS!!!

To be followed shortly by…

NOBAMA’S ONLY ATTACKING ISIS TO DISTRACT FROM BENGHAZI!!!1!!11!

147 klys  Sep 15, 2014 4:59:41pm

Doing more reading about the Boles fire, they’re reporting 75 structures lost and chances are quite good that the structures in question are homes, not outbuildings. It started in a residential area, and they’re desperately trying to get resources to try and save half of it. Folks listening to scanners say that incident command has said they’re going to lose the elementary school and they’re trying hard to save half of the subdivision it started in.

148 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:00:12pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

Off to bend the electorate of Lower Alabama to my political will. Found a way to turn making GOTV calls into a drinking game. BBL

This will end well.

149 Floral Giraffe  Sep 15, 2014 5:02:06pm

re: #129 klys

Hope you are safe, and that is far from you, and other homes.

150 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 5:02:46pm

LA weather:

google.com

Excessive heat warning…

Heat Index values are expected to rise to between 100 and 110 degrees during the late morning through early evening hours in the valleys of Los Angeles and Ventura Counties …

151 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:02:50pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Their server seems to be down.

Link is working for me. Anyone else having problems?

152 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 5:03:20pm

re: #148 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This will end well.

No danger—I get a sip of cheap wine every time I get a ‘friendly’, drain it only when they pledge their vote. Most nights I have half a glass still when finished. BBL fur reel.

153 klys  Sep 15, 2014 5:03:40pm

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Hope you are safe, and that is far from you, and other homes.

Not my area, thankfully. I am in the Bay Area, just watching online. But the husband and I drove through there on the last trip, and Stewart Mineral Springs is on our list of places to get to soon, so I’ve been watching to see if the fire was going to impact there (we’re still sad about the damage to Wilbur).

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:03:41pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

We got back from Toronto and it feels like we got back from overseas.

The Troll Bridge will do that to ya…

155 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:04:36pm

So, I heard this story on NPR Sirius radio this morning about Jews wanting to leave France because they don’t feel safe.

Now, I can’t find it on the NPR website. There is one about Germany, but I can’t find France.

Oh wait, it’s a sidebar to the Germany story. Two stories: Here and Here

IMHO, scary as shit.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:05:10pm

re: #151 Bubblehead II

Link is working for me. Anyone else having problems?

works fine for me.

157 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:06:35pm

I made a decision.

I’ve noticed something with the stories that concern my personal hot button topics.

When Fox does a segment on them, they always have a ringer. Someone who will put forward an absolutely insane (baiting) perspective. I freak-out (play right into it).

Fox get’s noticed, tweeted, etc.

I’m not playing anymore.

GAZE FOX

158 bratwurst  Sep 15, 2014 5:07:10pm

David Frum lays out his somewhat dubious case against Scottish independence in the pages of the increasingly unreadable The Atlantic.

Ok, obviously there are a lot of strong feelings out there on this topic as evidenced by the page here. Where Frum goes utterly moronic is at the end where he points out that Bill Clinton traveled to Ottawa and spoke out for Canadian unity in 1995 ahead of Quebec’s secession referendum that year:

President Obama has played no equivalent role in the debate over the survival of America’s close ally, the United Kingdom. If the ‘Yes’ vote prevails on September 18, Obama’s omission should be remembered in the postmortem assignment of blame for a potential disaster for the peoples of Britain, Europe, and the Western alliance.

159 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:08:03pm
160 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:08:39pm

re: #158 bratwurst

David Frum lays out his somewhat dubious case against Scottish independence in the pages of the increasingly unreadable The Atlantic.

Ok, obviously there are a lot of strong feelings out there on this topic as evidenced by the page here. Where Frum goes utterly moronic is at the end where he points out that Bill Clinton traveled to Ottawa and spoke out for Canadian unity in 1995 ahead of Quebec’s secession referendum that year:

President Obama has played no equivalent role in the debate over the survival of America’s close ally, the United Kingdom. If the ‘Yes’ vote prevails on September 18, Obama’s omission should be remembered in the postmortem assignment of blame for a potential disaster for the peoples of Britain, Europe, and the Western alliance.

What the fuck does David Frum have to add of any value to the Scottish referendum?

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 5:09:36pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Troll Bridge will do that to ya…

Took the tunnel, not the bridge. Fuck the troll.

162 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:09:58pm

re: #157 FemNaziBitch

I made a decision.

I’ve noticed something with the stories that concern my personal hot button topics.

When Fox does a segment on them, they always have a ringer. Someone who will put forward an absolutely insane (baiting) perspective. I freak-out (play right into it).

Fox get’s noticed, tweeted, etc.

I’m not playing anymore.

GAZE FOX

The simple solution is to not watch Fox.

163 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:10:17pm

re: #162 Rev_Arthur_Belling

The simple solution is to not watch Fox.

That is difficult in my home.

164 GeneJockey  Sep 15, 2014 5:10:47pm

re: #160 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What the fuck does David Frum have to add of any value to the Scottish referendum?

Nothing, but it’s important to have an opinion, I guess.

165 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:11:02pm

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

That is difficult in my home.

I am so sorry, then. :(

166 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:12:16pm

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Strictly speaking, if one is an honest literalist fundie, then one won’t go with the “gays” version at all, since it’s nowhere in the Bible.

We have Ezekiel implying the sin was being cruel to those in need.

We have Jesus (allegedly) implying that Sodom’s & Gomorrah’s sin had something to do with how one treats strangers.

Finally, Paul says it had to do with turning to “strange flesh”. But what that means, nobody seems to know. Could that be a reference to sodomy? Maybe, but just as easily it could be a reference to rape or sex outside of marriage.

Or shellfish. Tref, dontcha know.

167 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:12:25pm

re: #164 GeneJockey

Nothing, but it’s important to have an opinion, I guess.

Apparently it is. I posted in the “aye” thread that I wish the Scots well with whatever they decide. Not my area, not my thing. But self-determination is important, I think.

So I guess I’m not important.

168 aagcobb  Sep 15, 2014 5:12:47pm

re: #158 bratwurst

David Frum lays out his somewhat dubious case against Scottish independence in the pages of the increasingly unreadable The Atlantic.

Ok, obviously there are a lot of strong feelings out there on this topic as evidenced by the page here. Where Frum goes utterly moronic is at the end where he points out that Bill Clinton traveled to Ottawa and spoke out for Canadian unity in 1995 ahead of Quebec’s secession referendum that year:

President Obama has played no equivalent role in the debate over the survival of America’s close ally, the United Kingdom. If the ‘Yes’ vote prevails on September 18, Obama’s omission should be remembered in the postmortem assignment of blame for a potential disaster for the peoples of Britain, Europe, and the Western alliance.

Even Scottish Independence is ultimately just another chapter on “Why Obama Sucks”, the tome every rightwinger is writing everyday.

169 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:13:44pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

works fine for me.

It must be my connection. Neither Firefox or IE can connect.

170 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:14:19pm

Also, Frum is a fucking Canadian! FSM, I hate GWB for foisting that yahoo on the American public.

171 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

It must be my connection. Neither Firefox or IE can connect.

Direct link. Not the shortened one.

centcom.mil

172 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 5:16:58pm

Evacuations ordered in Estacada, Ore., for growing wildfire, police say - @oregonian
read more on oregonlive.com

173 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:17:01pm

re: #168 aagcobb

“a potential disaster”

This phrase has lost its meaning since it’s been applied to everything from the First Lady’s diet/exercise suggestions to Obamacare.

174 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:18:15pm

What the hell is Frum talking about?

175 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:18:33pm

re: #168 aagcobb

Even Scottish Independence is ultimately just another chapter on “Why Obama Sucks”, the tome every rightwinger is writing everyday.

Well, unlike Frum, George Will managed to write a piece about the Scottish Referendum that is actually about Scotland. There is nothing in that piece about Barack Obama or any other living American political figure. And its a decent and calm piece, unlike some other things will has written in the last few years.

It’s always interesting to see how some people calm down a great deal when they aren’t talking about things that directly effect them.

176 Kid A  Sep 15, 2014 5:18:37pm

Redneck asshole. He grew up in Palestine, TX. Yes, I’m referring to A.P.

177 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:19:02pm

re: #171 Bubblehead II

Direct link. Not the shortened one.

centcom.mil

Still didn’t work.

178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 5:19:26pm

re: #166 austin_blue

Or shellfish. Tref, dontcha know.

Since it was “Jude”, and not Paul (as I mistakenly wrote), maybe. Wouldn’t work with Paul, since he was all for abandoning the dietary laws

179 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:20:54pm

re: #174 Gus

What the hell is Frum talking about?

“An independent Scotland would seek admission to the EU as a 29th member state. A club of so many member states cannot function by consensus, and the EU has yet to develop more effective decision-making methods.”
28 states is ok. 29 tips it over the edge into DISASTER.

180 JustMark  Sep 15, 2014 5:20:56pm

re: #160 Rev_Arthur_Belling

As a “Natural Born” Scot, fuck off David Frum.

181 Justanotherhuman  Sep 15, 2014 5:23:10pm

Have a great evening, Lizards! Later on…

182 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 5:23:11pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Still didn’t work.

YOU’RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO ACCESS CENTCOM BECAUSE YOU’RE A CONSERVATIVE AND OBUMMER IS ACTIVELY STIFLING INFORMATION TO CONSERVATIVES SO HE CAN GET YOU ALL IN FEMA CAMPS

183 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:23:41pm

“Postmortem assignment of blame.”

184 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 5:24:22pm

re: #170 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Also, Frum is a fucking Canadian! FSM, I hate GWB for foisting that yahoo on the American public.

Hey, being Canadian isn’t the problem.

185 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:24:31pm

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Since it was “Jude”, and not Paul (as I mistakenly wrote), maybe. Wouldn’t work with Paul, since he was all for abandoning the dietary laws

Ah, someone must have slipped him a lobster with some drawn butter:

“Good, isn’t it?”

“Jesus and Mary and Holy Saint Joseph!”

186 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:24:59pm

re: #179 jaunte

“An independent Scotland would seek admission to the EU as a 29th member state. A club of so many member states cannot function by consensus, and the EU has yet to develop more effective decision-making methods.”
28 states is ok. 29 tips it over the edge into DISASTER.

29 is a Prime Number!! And if Obama would have kept the Churchill bust then Scotland would’ve wanted to stay in the UK

//

187 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:27:47pm

re: #184 b_sharp

Hey, being Canadian isn’t the problem.

Oh, yeah. I know. It’s just he’s such an ass - like many ex-pats who come over to the U.S. to expound on matters political.

188 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:27:52pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Still didn’t work.

Check you computer for an infestation of viruses from Fox News that may be be preventing you from receiving information that, yes, the Obama administrations is in fact, carrying out military strikes agains isis/isil.

189 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:27:57pm

A friend of mine and his fiance just had their first baby. Even I have to admit the kid is cute.

I did post on their FB page that in each picture, it looks like she is sizing up who lives and who dies when she ascends to the Iron Throne. Best keep her happy.

RBS

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:28:47pm

re: #179 jaunte

“An independent Scotland would seek admission to the EU as a 29th member state. A club of so many member states cannot function by consensus, and the EU has yet to develop more effective decision-making methods.”
28 states is ok. 29 tips it over the edge into DISASTER.

Well, and then there’s the fact that they are Scots…shitfight just waiting to happen…

191 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:28:50pm

re: #179 jaunte

“An independent Scotland would seek admission to the EU as a 29th member state. A club of so many member states cannot function by consensus, and the EU has yet to develop more effective decision-making methods.”
28 states is ok. 29 tips it over the edge into DISASTER.

It’s a good thing the U.S. doesn’t have more than 28 states! Oh. Wait.

192 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:29:31pm

re: #191 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It’s a good thing the U.S. doesn’t have more than 28 states! Oh. Wait.

Yea, but we don’t govern by consensus any more either.

RBS

193 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:29:52pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

A friend of mine and his fiance just had their first baby. Even I have to admit the kid is cute.

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I did post on their FB page that in each picture, it looks like she is sizing up who lives and who dies when she ascends to the Iron Throne. Best keep her happy.

RBS

I love those little pink/blue hats!

194 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:30:52pm

re: #191 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It’s a good thing the U.S. doesn’t have more than 28 states! Oh. Wait.

MAYBE THE EU WILL GET A KENYAN TO RUN IT TOO!!

195 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 5:31:02pm

re: #192 RealityBasedSteve

Yea, but we don’t govern by consensus any more either.

RBS

im getting used to the governing by gridlock and ignorance

196 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:31:09pm

re: #186 b.d.

29 is a Prime Number!! And if Obama would have kept the Churchill bust then Scotland would’ve wanted to stay in the UK

//

Niall Ferguson has fot an OpEd in the NYT today titled “Scots Must Vote Nae”:

nytimes.com

My favorite ‘graph:

<Yet the economic arguments against independence seem not to be working — and may even be backfiring. I think I know why. Telling a Scot, “You can’t do this — if you do, terrible things will happen to you,” has been a losing negotiating strategy since time immemorial. If you went into a Glasgow pub tonight and said to the average Glaswegian, “If you down that beer, you’ll get your head kicked in,” he would react by draining his glass to the dregs and telling the barman, “Same again.”>

I’ve spent a fair amount of time north of Hadrian’s wall, and Niall is dead spot on.

197 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:31:23pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

Cute baby!

198 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:31:56pm

re: #193 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I love those little pink/blue hats!

I never would have noticed that…. I’m sure that it’s all part of the “Gay Agenda” to get babies confused about their gender, so they can turn them ghey latter. Maybe you’re on to something, best take it to Free Republic!!!//////

RBS

199 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 5:33:22pm

re: #196 austin_blue

Niall Ferguson

Even if it accomplished nothing else good, an Aye vote that pissed him off would be a damn good thing.

200 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:33:33pm

re: #198 RealityBasedSteve

I never would have noticed that…. I’m sure that it’s all part of the “Gay Agenda” to get babies confused about their gender, so they can turn them ghey latter. Maybe you’re on to something, best take it to Free Republic!!!//////

RBS

Ha! I actually know why they are pink/blue - so they don’t have to have two sets. The blankets are the same (three kids, 2 girls, 1 boy, so I’ve seen them used on both). :)

but, yeah, let’s blame the ghey agenda ;)

201 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:34:02pm

But wait!

202 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:34:33pm

...

203 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:35:15pm

re: #199 William Barnett-Lewis

Even if it accomplished nothing else good, an Aye vote that pissed him off would be a damn good thing.

Agreed. What a waste of a good education.

204 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:35:48pm

re: #202 RealityBasedSteve

I caught a peice on NPR that

The reporting on NPR has been excellent.

205 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:35:49pm

OFFS:

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:36:05pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

Nice side eye in the second picture. She’s gonna do just fine!

207 psddluva4evah  Sep 15, 2014 5:36:31pm

Am I being too cynical? Because I think there is hope that maybe people will “forget” by January?

208 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:37:57pm

re: #199 William Barnett-Lewis

Even if it accomplished nothing else good, an Aye vote that pissed him off would be a damn good thing.

Now, now, “even a blind pig sometimes finds an akern”, as they say in east Texas (behind the pine curtain).

209 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:38:16pm
“People could not predict the political ideology of others by smell if you asked them, but they differentially found the smell of those who aligned with them more attractive,” said Dr. Rose McDermott, lead author of the study. “So I believe smell conveys important information about long-term affinity in political ideology that becomes incorporated into a key component of subconscious attraction.”

Stupid.

210 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:38:22pm

re: #201 Gus

But wait!

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OBAMA’S CONSTANT NON MEDDLING IS RUINING THIS DEAL FOR EVERYONE!

211 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:38:24pm

re: #196 austin_blue

Niall Ferguson has fot an OpEd in the NYT today titled “Scots Must Vote Nae”. My favorite ‘graph:

<Yet the economic arguments against independence seem not to be working — and may even be backfiring. I think I know why. Telling a Scot, “You can’t do this — if you do, terrible things will happen to you,” has been a losing negotiating strategy since time immemorial. If you went into a Glasgow pub tonight and said to the average Glaswegian, “If you down that beer, you’ll get your head kicked in,” he would react by draining his glass to the dregs and telling the barman, “Same again.”>

I’ve spent a fair amount of time north of Hadrian’s wall, and Niall is dead spot on.

I caught a piece on NPR this afternoon saying about the same thing about David Cameron’s speech on the subject. That basically telling the Scots “You better not do that” is the best way to get them to figure ‘doing it must be a good idea’.

I have no dog in this fight, so I’m watching with just an academic interest.

RBS

212 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 5:38:31pm

re: #188 Bubblehead II

Check you computer for an infestation of viruses from Fox News that may be be preventing you from receiving information that, yes, the Obama administrations is in fact, carrying out military strikes agains isis/isil.

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They are trying to make a distinction that today we launched the first “offensive” airstrikes against ISIS. Up until now all the strikes have been “defensive” in support of threatened allied positions. Just another way to prolong the ODS rage…

213 Interesting Times  Sep 15, 2014 5:40:08pm

Oh look, I posted evidence in the Pages to back up a point, and got stealth-downdinged - twice - by people who can’t handle the truth :)

214 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:40:34pm

Why Won’t Obama Lead and Why Is He bothering People With His Opinion?

215 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:41:40pm

re: #212 ausador

They are trying to make a distinction that today we launched the first “offensive” airstrikes against ISIS. Up until now all the strikes have been “defensive” in support of threatened allied positions.

But that doesn’t explain DF’s problem with a valid link no else seems to have a problem with. I think his computer has been infested with Fox News viruses that blocks out anything they don’t want him to see.

///

216 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:42:00pm

OBAMA NEEDS TO LEARN TO LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHILE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO

217 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:43:09pm

re: #216 b.d.

OBAMA NEEDS TO LEARN TO LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHILE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO

PEOPLE MUST BOTH FEAR HIM AND RESPECT HIM!

218 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 5:43:37pm

re: #207 psddluva4evah

Am I being too cynical? Because I think there is hope that maybe people will “forget” by January?

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That’s not cynicism. That’s experience and/or observation.

219 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:43:51pm

re: #213 Interesting Times

Oh look, I posted evidence in the Pages to back up a point, and got stealth-downdinged - twice - by people who can’t handle the truth :)

The last of them has been negated. You page is now at 0

220 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 5:44:33pm

Such as…

221 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:44:43pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

A friend of mine and his fiance just had their first baby. Even I have to admit the kid is cute.

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I did post on their FB page that in each picture, it looks like she is sizing up who lives and who dies when she ascends to the Iron Throne. Best keep her happy.

RBS

You’re kidding, right? Everyone here knows that Alouette’s grandchildren will be the overlords.

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:44:44pm

re: #213 Interesting Times

Oh look, I posted evidence in the Pages to back up a point, and got stealth-downdinged - twice - by people who can’t handle the truth :)

I counteracted that one at least.

223 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:45:36pm

re: #211 RealityBasedSteve

I caught a piece on NPR this afternoon saying about the same thing about David Cameron’s speech on the subject. That basically telling the Scots “You better not do that” is the best way to get them to figure ‘doing it must be a good idea’.

I have no dog in this fight, so I’m watching with just an academic interest.

RBS

She Who Must Be Obeyed and myself go to the Edinburgh International Harp Festival (mostly Celtic styles) and I’m wondering if travel will change if they separate. Customs at both Heathrow (shudder) *and* Edinburgh? Different currency? Forced haggis feedings before entry (actually, that last wouldn’t be so bad if it was a proper haggis w/ whiskey cream sauce).

I’d feel sorry for the Brits, though, if it happened. They’d have to remove the blue from the Union Jack. That would just be wrong. Poor Pommie Bastards…

224 Varek Raith  Sep 15, 2014 5:45:38pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

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Dear Graham.
Fear and respect from ISIL is irrelevant.

225 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:46:28pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

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Graham’s ideal president would be Ming The Merciless.

226 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:46:34pm

re: #214 jaunte

Why Won’t Obama Lead and Why Is He bothering People With His Opinion?

It’s the golf…

227 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 15, 2014 5:48:21pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

ISIS is not a teenage boy trying to date the President’s daughter.

228 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 5:49:03pm

awwwwwwww!!!

kitteh

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:50:14pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

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As I said the other day:

230 psddluva4evah  Sep 15, 2014 5:50:17pm

re: #218 wrenchwench

it also keeps it out of the headline in November, and what happens in November???? Hmmmm

231 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:51:10pm
232 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:51:16pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

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I actually got to meet Lindsay Graham, along with a group of students. He didn’t seem like such an idiot at the time (of course, this was back when GWB was president). But now he makes such insane statements.

233 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:51:31pm

re: #224 Varek Raith

Dear Graham.
Fear and respect from ISIL is irrelevant.

It is always best if your enemies fear you. Respect, though…

234 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 5:51:48pm

re: #160 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What the fuck does David Frum have to add of any value to the Scottish referendum anything?

FIFY

235 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:52:11pm

Lindsey Graham has held office since 2003.

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:52:31pm

re: #223 austin_blue

She Who Must Be Obeyed and myself go to the Edinburgh International Harp Festival (mostly Celtic styles) and I’m wondering if travel will change if they separate. Customs at both Heathrow (shudder) *and* Edinburgh? Different currency? Forced haggis feedings before entry (actually, that last wouldn’t be so bad if it was a proper haggis w/ whiskey cream sauce).

I’d feel sorry for the Brits, though, if it happened. They’d have to remove the blue from the Union Jack. That would just be wrong. Poor Pommie Bastards…

Last time I went to Scotland it was Lexington KY-Amsterdam-Glasgow. Coming home, it Glasgow-Detroit-Lexington KY.
I avoid Heathrow like the plague.

237 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:52:54pm

re: #234 WhatEVs

Well, true.

238 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 5:52:54pm

Lindsey Graham scares me but I don’t respect him.

239 bratwurst  Sep 15, 2014 5:53:25pm

re: #213 Interesting Times

Oh look, I posted evidence in the Pages to back up a point, and got stealth-downdinged - twice - by people who can’t handle the truth :)

LGF has quite a history with Canadian conservatives acting out…no idea why.

240 Interesting Times  Sep 15, 2014 5:53:37pm

re: #219 Bubblehead II

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks!

(what’s ironic is that one of the articles I quoted from appeared in the Financial Post, which is practically Canada’s version of Rupert Murdoch’s WSJ - if even they are saying the FIPA deal is bad for Canada, you know it’s got to be a shit sandwich infested with every e. coli variation imaginable)

241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 5:53:55pm

re: #239 bratwurst

Where is Buck?

242 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:54:57pm

Also, re: Lindsay Graham, it’s probably an intern posting that shit.

243 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:55:24pm

re: #241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Where is Buck?

He hasn’t been around much, lately. I think he got tried of getting pounded on for DERPing.

244 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 5:55:28pm

re: #241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Where is Buck?

Visiting a galaxy far, far , far away?

245 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:56:08pm

re: #242 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Also, re: Lindsay Graham, it’s probably an intern posting that shit.

An intern or a staffer. He’s not a tech moron, but senators are very busy people.

246 austin_blue  Sep 15, 2014 5:57:12pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Last time I went to Scotland it was Lexington KY-Amsterdam-Glasgow. Coming home, it Glasgow-Detroit-Lexington KY.
I avoid Heathrow like the plague.

Yeah, well, those bastards at British Airways have a got a non-stop now from Austin -> Heathrow, damn them. Less than 9 hours and I get to avoid Newark. And the food is killer bee. And the wine is free, the Pommie Bastards.

247 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:57:37pm

re: #242 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Also, re: Lindsay Graham, it’s probably an intern posting that shit.

But probably not freelancing an opinion.

248 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:57:45pm

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

An intern or a staffer. He’s not a tech moron, but senators are very busy people.

I know. The one that I think is actually using his account is Chuck Grassley. The DERP is just too strong for an intern/staffer.

249 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:57:58pm

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

awwwwwwww!!!

kitteh

I think you might want to read this. I read it and wanted to make sure you saw it.

250 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 5:58:27pm

I think I’m going to go insane. My two Siamese cats are at opposite ends of the house exchanging “MERRROWS” to each other. It’s been going on for 5 minutes. Geeze guys, one you walk over where the other one is to see what’s going on…..

RBS

251 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:58:29pm

re: #247 jaunte

But probably not freelancing an opinion.

Good point. I wonder what the process for formulating Twitter opinions is in a congressional office?

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2014 5:58:29pm

re: #246 austin_blue

Yeah, well, those bastards at British Airways have a got a non-stop now from Austin -> Heathrow, damn them. Less than 9 hours and I get to avoid Newark. And the food is killer bee. And the wine is free, the Pommie Bastards.

Well, the perks help somewhat…

253 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 5:59:35pm

re: #251 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Maybe they have a tab open to a Graham On The Issues page.

254 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 5:59:35pm

re: #248 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I know. The one that I think is actually using his account is Chuck Grassley. The DERP is just too strong for an intern/staffer.

No, Grassley is too busy working to get Joni Ernst elected to Iowa’s other Senate seat.

255 freetoken  Sep 15, 2014 5:59:39pm

re: #201 Gus

Here’s the thing that boggles me about Scottish “independence”:

Ditching Monarchy Is Step Too Far for Scots Nationalists

[…]

For Scottish nationalists who say they are on the cusp of achieving their ambition of unraveling the U.K. political union that dates back 307 years, ditching the monarchy is a step too far. Rather than a republic, they want to keep the queen as head of a newly independent state.

“It would be a very smooth transition as she is already the Queen in Scotland,” said Robert Hazell, director of the constitution unit at University College London. “It’s a country she knows very well and loves very well.”

The monarchy is the most enduring symbol of union between England and Scotland along with the pound sterling, which the nationalists also want to retain.

[…]

It seems to me the Scots truly don’t want independence.

256 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 5:59:54pm

re: #250 RealityBasedSteve

I think I’m going to go insane. My two Siamese cats are at opposite ends of the house exchanging “MERRROWS” to each other. It’s been going on for 5 minutes. Geeze guys, one you walk over where the other one is to see what’s going on…..

RBS

One of my cats has decided to act like a dog. Whenever I go into the kitchen, she leads me into the kitchen and “barks” as I walk in.

257 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 6:00:08pm

It begins.

Later, lizards.

258 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:00:11pm

re: #211 RealityBasedSteve

I caught a piece on NPR this afternoon saying about the same thing about David Cameron’s speech on the subject. That basically telling the Scots “You better not do that” is the best way to get them to figure ‘doing it must be a good idea’.

I have no dog in this fight, so I’m watching with just an academic interest.

RBS

Same here.

It’s kinda unstablizing to my inner sense of reality that the British Empire might whittle down to the bit of land the Vikings started raiding back in the day.

NPR had a guy on this morning proposing the slippery slope concept —If Scotland goes, then Wales will follow, then the Irelands ….

I thought OH NO, what about the Outer Hebrides!

I can’t handle much more change in my world. I am fully cognizant that my world is meaningless to the people of Scotland —as it should be.

And, really, after Spock’s change to a feeling being—you know, I just can’t come back from that.

259 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:00:31pm

re: #238 b.d.

Lindsey Graham scares me but I don’t respect him.

Why does he scare you?

260 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 6:01:06pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

No, Grassley is too busy working to get Joni Ernst elected to Iowa’s other Senate seat.

I haven’t seen much evidence of Grassley “working” in a while (semi-//)

261 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:01:26pm

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

An intern or a staffer. He’s not a tech moron, but senators are very busy people.

Then Graham is an idiot. You don’t let interns or staffers post/tweet in you name unless you trust them to be cognizance of your position. Unless of course, you want them to make you look like a clueless idiot.

Oh, wait. He is a clueless idiot.

262 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:01:49pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

I think you might want to read this. I read it and wanted to make sure you saw it.

Having run out of places to attempt to exclude women—because they seem to thrive wherever they get a chance--Serrano ignores the legacy of fearsome female fighters, from Joan of Arc to Lyudmila Pavlichenko.

HA!

263 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 6:02:18pm

re: #261 Bubblehead II

Then Graham is an idiot. You don’t let interns or staffers post/tweet in you name unless you trust them to be cognizance of your position. Unless of course, you want them to make you look like a clueless idiot.

Oh, wait. He is a clueless idiot.

Relax Jake Bubblehead II, it’s Washingtontown.

264 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 6:02:21pm

re: #209 Gus

Stupid.

Its CNN. That’s synonymous.

265 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 15, 2014 6:02:43pm

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

An intern or a staffer. He’s not a tech moron, but senators are very busy people.

It doesn’t matter who, technically, pushes the buttons. It’s still Graham being an idiot.

266 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 6:03:01pm

The Page I put up has been taken down pending a check into the author I linked to.

267 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:03:25pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

I think you might want to read this. I read it and wanted to make sure you saw it.

Please Page that.

268 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 6:04:14pm

re: #261 Bubblehead II

Then Graham is an idiot. You don’t let interns or staffers post/tweet in you name unless you trust them to be cognizance of your position. Unless of course, you want them to make you look like a clueless idiot.

Oh, wait. He is a clueless idiot.

This. Sorry but “he didn’t type it himself” isn’t an excuse. It’s written in his name. Graham and McCain need to stop this pissing bs that our enemies don’t fear or respect Potus.

269 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 6:04:29pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

Please Page that.

I’ll do so later. Right now I have to get going.

270 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 6:05:24pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

Please Page that.

But if you like it, please upding my #249.

BBL

271 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 6:06:17pm

re: #255 freetoken

Here’s the thing that boggles me about Scottish “independence”:

Ditching Monarchy Is Step Too Far for Scots Nationalists

It seems to me the Scots truly don’t want independence.

I thought it sounded great at first. Now I think it’s a bad idea for economic reasons. They’ll choose what to do.

272 Interesting Times  Sep 15, 2014 6:06:37pm

re: #239 bratwurst

LGF has quite a history with Canadian conservatives acting out…no idea why.

This winner is the latest example. Not sure what skandal’s problem is (since he often dings but rarely posts). But he seems to be a proud member of the harper supports Israel so if you hate harper you side with hamas!!11!1 club 9_9

273 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 6:06:45pm

who will be the republican president if hillary washes out?

274 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:07:26pm
275 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:07:27pm

re: #250 RealityBasedSteve

I think I’m going to go insane. My two Siamese cats are at opposite ends of the house exchanging “MERRROWS” to each other. It’s been going on for 5 minutes. Geeze guys, one you walk over where the other one is to see what’s going on…..

RBS

Hey, welcome to Insane. I’m there on a regular basis.

My Feral Girl whacked to the floor the old man FO with her muzzle, then lunged for his neck. She had no idea what she was doing, just working on instinct. We intervened with restraint, stern reminders that the FO is a “baby” and gave her a time-out in the crate. She (of course) behave thoroughly chastised.

The rest of the night went without event.

Later while Feral Girl was sleeping, Old Man FO walked up to her and started pawing her ears.

276 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:07:31pm

re: #257 wrenchwench

It begins.

Later, lizards.

Went to run some errands earlier and saw a boy, about that age on a similar trike, trying to cross the street. He’d seen the earth digger across the way and like all boys was fascinated by it. I stopped the van crosswise the road with my flashers on and walked over to him and started shooing him back homeward. Dad came running shortly and took care of bringing him back on their lawn.

Last I saw as I pulled away was him sitting with the boy on their lawn watching the machine digging in the dirt together.

My boy may be 10+ years older but I remember those moments. For him it was a fire truck that he reached out towards from his stroller yelling at the top of his lungs “FIRE FUCK FIRE FUCK” as the TR sound just wasn’t going to happen that day … ;)

277 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 15, 2014 6:08:33pm

Yeah.

So just going to point out the fear does not magically stop people from doing horrible shit.

Fear just makes people desperate. It does not dispel their lack of empathy, hair-trigger impulse to violence, or the flawed reasoning skills that see all problems as solvable by adding more corpses to the stack.

And it’s all the more stupid in context. This is geopolitics, not a dick-waving contest.

278 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 6:09:16pm

re: #213 Interesting Times

Oh look, I posted evidence in the Pages to back up a point, and got stealth-downdinged - twice - by people who can’t handle the truth :)

Sad, ain’t it?

These are people who don’t mind their leaders whoring out their country. Makes them whores as well.

279 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:09:33pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

Please Page that.

Agreed.

I say that as an infantry NCO who would have been ecstatic to have so good a soldier as his sister was in his platoon.

280 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 6:10:20pm

re: #220 Gus

Such as…

[Embedded content]

I do fear you, Mr. Graham, although not for reasons you’d approve of. Respect? Not a fucking chance.

281 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 6:10:58pm
282 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:11:32pm

re: #275 FemNaziBitch

Hey, welcome to Insane. I’m there on a regular basis.

My Feral Girl whacked to the floor the old man FO with her muzzle, then lunged for his neck. She had no idea what she was doing, just working on instinct. We intervened with restraint, stern reminders that the FO is a “baby” and gave her a time-out in the crate. She (of course) behave thoroughly chastised.

The rest of the night went without event.

Later while Feral Girl was sleeping, Old Man FO walked up to her and started pawing her ears.

Old Man FO? He’s a baby? gah, I was thinking the older dog. Okie, the kitteh.

In addition I still await the full story on Feral Girl.

283 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 6:11:54pm

Like anyone actually respects Graham these days. Lameass is wirse than Cruz imo:

284 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 6:12:12pm

who will be the republican president if hillary washes out?

the republican president who cooperates with a republican senate and house to ban abortion, restrict voting while not white and male, who destroys social security and medicare, who refuses to ever increase the minimum wage while at the same time cutting business taxes and top rates, and who finds it absolutely unavoidable to send ground troops into the middle east for permanent occupation?

what will be the name of this person who we will all live with for the forseeable future? or will the person who does all these things be hillary?

285 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 6:13:13pm

re: #239 bratwurst

LGF has quite a history with Canadian conservatives acting out…no idea why.

Because like all so-called conservatives they, in the words of Valcav Havel, cannot tell the difference between dissent and outright terrorism. So they react with fear and loathing to any difference of opinion.

286 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:14:37pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

The Page I put up has been taken down pending a check into the author I linked to.

I hope you’re not really surprised that another writer for National Review has ties to the white nationalists at Takimag. These are the “posh” white nationalists we’re talking about, the Derbyshire crowd, the guys with British accents who are skilled at writing and equally skilled at dressing up raw bigotry as “academic analysis.”

287 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:15:41pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

Old Man FO? He’s a baby? gah, I was thinking the older dog. Okie, the kitteh.

In addition I still await the full story on Feral Girl.

We name all creatures that are “off limits” as “baby’s”. Through the years, the dogs seem to understand.

Once a friend with a pet rabbit visited with said rabbit. Hunting dogs thought they were being given a gift (inside prey). Telling them that said rabbit was a “baby” solved all problems. They then sniffed ears and groomed pet rabbit.

288 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:16:08pm

re: #284 dog philosopher

who will be the republican president if when hillary washes out?

The president in 2016 will have the surname of Gillibrand… ;)

289 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:16:09pm

re: #276 William Barnett-Lewis

Went to run some errands earlier and saw a boy, about that age on a similar trike, trying to cross the street. He’d seen the earth digger across the way and like all boys was fascinated by it. I stopped the van crosswise the road with my flashers on and walked over to him and started shooing him back homeward. Dad came running shortly and took care of bringing him back on their lawn.

Last I saw as I pulled away was him sitting with the boy on their lawn watching the machine digging in the dirt together.

My boy may be 10+ years older but I remember those moments. For him it was a fire truck that he reached out towards from his stroller yelling at the top of his lungs “FIRE FUCK FIRE FUCK” as the TR sound just wasn’t going to happen that day … ;)

Well at least your encounter went better than this.

Names Released From Hit And Run In Jerome

Chances are the driver didn’t even see the kid. While my heart goes out to the Family, I do have to ask, who was watching the kid?

290 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Like anyone actually respects Graham these days. Lameass is wirse than Cruz imo:

I hope the Cocaine convicted Southern Charm dude gives him a run for his money. Just for the ha ha.

usnews.com

291 freetoken  Sep 15, 2014 6:16:21pm

re: #271 Gus

I thought it sounded great at first. Now I think it’s a bad idea for economic reasons. They’ll choose what to do.

I guess I feel as if I don’t have a dog in this fight. I do believe that the Scots are not thinking clearly about their petroleum production, though. If the nationalists want to keep the pound sterling it sounds to me as if that is a tacit admission that Scotland can’t have a viable economy without the other current members of the UK.

Keeping the monarchy is to me a bit too much sentimentalism, but people want what they want. I realize that the “united” part of the United Kingdom is when a Scottish king went down to England to unite the two countries, and perhaps that makes the Scots feel something for the current crown.

292 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:17:56pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Seriously - I don’t know how much clearer it could possibly be that National Review has a huge problem with disguised racism, that often erupts into the public with embarrassing results. This is a systemic problem, not a series of flukes, and it comes right out of the conservative movement’s roots.

293 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:18:02pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

Old Man FO? He’s a baby? gah, I was thinking the older dog. Okie, the kitteh.

In addition I still await the full story on Feral Girl.

What more can I say? She is a work-in-progress.

294 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:18:09pm

re: #289 Bubblehead II

Ow. Quiet street for me, thank you my lord.

295 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:18:51pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Seriously - I don’t know how much clearer it could possibly be that National Review has a huge problem with disguised racism, that often erupts into the public with embarrassing results. This is a systemic problem, not a series of flukes, and it comes right out of the conservative movement’s roots.

States-Rights = Racism/Elitism

Traditional American Values = Maintain the Social Order

296 Gus  Sep 15, 2014 6:19:15pm

Libtard! Drink!

297 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 6:19:20pm

Boom…

The atheist libertarian lie: Ayn Rand, income inequality and the fantasy of the “free market”

one of the most deceptive ideas embraced by the Ayn Rand-inspired libertarian movement is that the free market is natural, and exists outside and beyond government. In other words, the “free market” is a constructed supernatural myth.

298 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 6:19:42pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Seriously - I don’t know how much clearer it could possibly be that National Review has a huge problem with disguised racism, that often erupts into the public with embarrassing results. This is a systemic problem, not a series of flukes, and it comes right out of the conservative movement’s roots.

NR stopped being a reputable source for anything long, long ago

299 Jenner7  Sep 15, 2014 6:20:56pm

he’s on a roll…

300 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:21:01pm

re: #287 FemNaziBitch

We name all creatures that are “off limits” as “baby’s”. Through the years, the dogs seem to understand.

Once a friend with a pet rabbit visited with said rabbit. Hunting dogs thought they were being given a gift (inside prey). Telling them that said rabbit was a “baby” solved all problems. They then sniffed ears and groomed pet rabbit.

Interesting.

OK, start typing the whole Feral Girl story por favor.

301 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:22:19pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Interesting.

OK, start typing the whole Feral Girl story por favor.

You want the whole thing, from nearly two months ago. I don’t know if I can do that tonite.

302 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 6:22:44pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

I think you might want to read this. I read it and wanted to make sure you saw it.

Very good article.

303 freetoken  Sep 15, 2014 6:24:23pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

This is a systemic problem, not a series of flukes, and it comes right out of the conservative movement’s roots.

My stance is that the “paleo-conservative” movement started in 1865, J.W. Booth, the Conferderate Secret Service, and similar groups.

And it’s been 149 years of ugly.

304 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:24:40pm
305 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:24:43pm

re: #298 Kragar

NR stopped being a reputable source for anything long, long ago

It never was. The National Review has been perfectly consistent in ideology since day one, where the first issue included an article by WFB defending white supremacy in the US South.

The only thing that has varied over time is the finesse with which the NRO authors put the “crypto-” into their crypto-racism and crypto-fascism.

306 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 6:24:54pm

My St. Louis Twitter friend. She started following me a couple of days after Mike Brown’s murder, probably because I tweeted incessantly about it after it happened.

307 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 6:25:07pm

re: #301 FemNaziBitch

You want the whole thing, from nearly two months ago. I don’t know if I can do that tonite.

Take your time. By tomorrow morning would be fine.

308 Varek Raith  Sep 15, 2014 6:25:52pm

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

It is always best if your enemies fear you. Respect, though…

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It’s still irrelevant.
They know full well what we can do.
Not my problem if they don’t fear us.
Our bombs will kill them just the same.

309 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:30:21pm

re: #298 Kragar

NR stopped being a reputable source for anything long, long ago

Never was one. Sorry DF, but it’s earliest beginnings were to support some very nasty racist thinking. I’ll grant it a tiny window of almost respectability from the time WFB jr realized his faith and his politics were in conflict on that subject and he, finally, chose his faith but there wasn’t long after that till his death and those who took over went back to the old NR standard.

I know you’d like to think otherwise but WFB Jr was a classic example of an exquisite education pissed away in the service of our lesser angels.

310 freetoken  Sep 15, 2014 6:30:53pm

Big Brother is watching you.

Really, literally looking at you:

FBI Announces Facial Recognition Program Is ‘Operational’

311 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 15, 2014 6:31:31pm

You’ll be shocked, shocked, to learn that the guest on Hannity who claimed that Janey Rice was at fault was A J Delgado, who did the National Review article about how most rapes are made up.

312 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:32:22pm

re: #311 The Ghost of a Flea

You’ll be shocked, shocked, to learn that the guest on Hannity who claimed that Janey Rice was at fault was A J Delgado, who did the National Review article about how most rapes are made up.

The scum of the earth writing for NRO. Say it isn’t so!

313 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:33:57pm

Here’s a great one that was posted at AMERICAN POWER BLOG. Kneel before AMERICAN POWER.

Notice the ponytail. This is very important in the right wing anti-me lexicon.

314 freetoken  Sep 15, 2014 6:35:18pm

In which Weigel uses the term “whistleblower” in a title, and the commenter notice:

The Benghazi Whistleblower Who Might Have Revealed a Massive Scandal on his Poetry Blog

315 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 6:35:31pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

Here’s a great one that was posted at AMERICAN POWER BLOG. Kneel before AMERICAN POWER.

Notice the ponytail. This is very important in the right wing anti-me lexicon.

[Embedded image]

Its a well known fact that men having excessively long hair can not be trusted.

FACT!

316 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:36:44pm

re: #309 William Barnett-Lewis

Never was one. Sorry DF, but it’s earliest beginnings were to support some very nasty racist thinking. I’ll grant it a tiny window of almost respectability from the time WFB jr realized his faith and his politics were in conflict on that subject and he, finally, chose his faith but there wasn’t long after that till his death and those who took over went back to the old NR standard.

I know you’d like to think otherwise but WFB Jr was a classic example of an exquisite education pissed away in the service of our lesser angels.

This is interesting. Roughly when was this time frame, and did WFB have any noteworthy essays from then?

317 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:36:45pm

re: #301 FemNaziBitch

You want the whole thing, from nearly two months ago. I don’t know if I can do that tonite.

Yes. I do. I know it will be an excellent read.

318 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 6:37:33pm

re: #305 EPR-radar

It never was. The National Review has been perfectly consistent in ideology since day one, where the first issue included an article by WFB defending white supremacy in the US South.

The only thing that has varied over time is the finesse with which the NRO authors put the “crypto-” into their crypto-racism and crypto-fascism.

This X1000000

319 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:07pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

Notice the ponytail. This is very important in the right wing anti-me lexicon.[Embedded image]

GET A HARICUT HIPPY!!!

320 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:11pm

re: #315 Kragar

Its a well known fact that men having excessively long hair can not be trusted.

FACT!

They should have known. The signs were there, right in front of them.

321 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:38:56pm

Ok, lizard foodies, here’s a quandry for you.

I am giving a dinner party at the end of the month. I have a head of cabbage and a cut up chicken I’d like to use together. Suggestions?

322 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 6:39:47pm

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 6:39:53pm

re: #321 William Barnett-Lewis

Ok, lizard foodies, here’s a quandry for you.

I am giving a dinner party at the end of the month. I have a head of cabbage and a cut up chicken I’d like to use together. Suggestions?

Coleslaw & fried chicken

324 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:40:06pm

I like how there are rays emanating from my head in that image. Those are my secret ponytail rays that only wingnuts can perceive.

325 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:40:12pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

Here’s a great one that was posted at AMERICAN POWER BLOG. Kneel before AMERICAN POWER.

Notice the ponytail. This is very important in the right wing anti-me lexicon.

[Embedded image]

Fail. The depicted image has a much stronger chin. Sorry Charles.

326 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 6:41:22pm

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am a long-haired male. My hair is not as long as in this picture, as I chopped it in April 2013 and donated it. Today, it’s definitely shoulder-length. I have friends in Steamboat Springs that affectionately call me “Hair Farmer.”

327 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:42:23pm

re: #325 Bubblehead II

Fail. The depicted image ha a much stronger chin. Sorry Charles.

That’s a very weird chin. Notice that it comes to a point on the LEFT side. This is not a coincidence.

328 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:43:08pm

re: #326 teleskiguy

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am a long-haired male. My hair is not as long as in this picture, as I chopped it in April 2013 and donated it. Today, it’s definitely shoulder-length. I have friends in Steamboat Springs that affectionately call me “Hair Farmer.”

FUCKING HIPPY!

329 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:43:16pm

Googling around a bit unearthed this gem:

In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation… the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not… express themselves in ideas but only… in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas. —- Lionel Trilling, 1950

Since present day US conservatism is even worse than “irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas”, the failure of WFB’s little project of giving US conservatism an intellectual veneer is complete.

330 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 6:44:42pm
331 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:45:27pm

re: #327 Charles Johnson

That’s a very weird chin. Notice that it comes to a point on the LEFT side. This is not a coincidence.

Now that you mention it………

///////

332 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 6:45:38pm
333 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 6:45:56pm

WFB also a McCarthy apologist. How he got his start i believe.

334 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:46:02pm

I think he will do anything for attention.
Limbaugh on Sexual Assault: “No Means Yes If You Know How to Spot It”

335 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:46:33pm

re: #321 William Barnett-Lewis

Ok, lizard foodies, here’s a quandry for you.

I am giving a dinner party at the end of the month. I have a head of cabbage and a cut up chicken I’d like to use together. Suggestions?

Nope, no ideas here.

336 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 6:47:55pm

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

Coleslaw & fried chicken

It’s funny but that never even crossed my mind. Eaten a ton probably but I’ve never actually made it myself and with a garden fresh head of cabbage that’s a great idea.

Thank you!

337 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 6:48:52pm

re: #336 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s funny but that never even crossed my mind. Eaten a ton probably but I’ve never actually made it myself and with a garden fresh head of cabbage that’s a great idea.

Thank you!

WW talked about a coleslaw with jalapenos. That sounded so good. (sweet/hot = nectar)

338 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 6:49:12pm
Prime Minister Key retorted in a radio interview before the event. “If this loser is going to come to town and try and tell me, five days before an election, staying at the Dotcom mansion with all the Dotcom people and being paid by Dotcom, that he’s doing anything other than Dotcom’s bidding - please don’t insult me with that.”

He does have a point.

339 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:50:10pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

I like how there are rays emanating from my head in that image. Those are my secret ponytail rays that only wingnuts can perceive.

Oh, I hadn’t thought of hair rays.

Charles!!! How could you?

340 Lidane  Sep 15, 2014 6:50:21pm

re: #220 Gus

WTF is this RWNJ obsession with the President needing to be “feared and respected”? Makes no sense.

341 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 6:52:32pm

re: #321 William Barnett-Lewis

Ok, lizard foodies, here’s a quandry for you.

I am giving a dinner party at the end of the month. I have a head of cabbage and a cut up chicken I’d like to use together. Suggestions?

Depends on how fancy you want it… I’d think about doing a chicken and cabbage stir fry. If you wanted something more casual, I’d probably do a chicken braise with cabbage and noodles. I’ve done this one before… and let me tell you that it’s SO GOOD!!!

Another option, do a roast on the chicken, and then do sauteed cabbage and apples with carraway. That would be a bit more ‘formal’, but would be a classic. I’d probably do it with roasted new potatoes or cut regular potatoes into smaller chunks, serve along with some good rye bread and butter and I think you’d have a winner.

RBS

342 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:52:54pm

sleep puppies

343 Belafon  Sep 15, 2014 6:52:58pm

re: #340 Lidane

Because they think the world needs a daddy figure and the US is that daddy figure via the president. The world has to be kept in line, and we’re the only ones that can do it. Getting cooperation from others is weak; they may turn on you, like the Republicans do.

344 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 6:53:13pm

re: #340 Lidane

It fits if you know that RWNJs are the primary consumers of male pharmaceutical enhancements.

345 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:53:38pm

re: #340 Lidane

WTF is this RWNJ obsession with the President needing to be “feared and respected”? Makes no sense.

Arab Barbarians respect ONLY manly, testosterone shows of strength

346 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 6:53:42pm

re: #326 teleskiguy

My post was in jest. But I had a friend (The big LC got him) who grew his hair long and routinely donated to Locks of Love.

347 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:54:02pm

re: #340 Lidane

WTF is this RWNJ obsession with the President needing to be “feared and respected”? Makes no sense.

It does if one assumes that RWNJs have a deep seated need for authoritarianism.

It is paradoxical that the RWNJs that want POTUS to be a figure of terror worldwide are the least respectful of all if POTUS happens to be a Democrat.

348 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 6:54:20pm

Real Men DO NOT walk away from a fight

349 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 6:54:24pm

We need a president with High T!!!

350 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:55:32pm

To hell with judging presidential candidates by height. **** size!!!

351 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 6:57:32pm

re: #346 Bubblehead II

My post was in jest. But I had a friend (The big LC got him) who grew his hair long and routinely donated to Locks of Love.

I’ve donated to Locks of Love four times now. I got a letter from them the last time I did it (April 2013) saying how high quality my hair is (thick, straight). My designated hair-cutter chopped off 22 inches (!) last time.

352 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:58:12pm

re: #305 EPR-radar

It never was. The National Review has been perfectly consistent in ideology since day one, where the first issue included an article by WFB defending white supremacy in the US South.

The only thing that has varied over time is the finesse with which the NRO authors put the “crypto-” into their crypto-racism and crypto-fascism.

Mea culpa. The infamous defense of White supremacy in the South was apparently not in the first issue of NR, but later. The rest of the critique remains valid.

353 Kragar  Sep 15, 2014 6:58:25pm
354 PhillyPretzel  Sep 15, 2014 6:59:17pm

OT I am very pissed off because I have an album on my iPhone that I did not order. It is supposed to be a gift from Apple. Should I give them heck or should I just ignore it?

355 EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2014 6:59:21pm

re: #353 Kragar

Who does ISIS think they are? US Republicans?

356 simoom  Sep 15, 2014 6:59:59pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

It’s worse than that.

Just like with Poitras publishing leaks related to Turkey and the Kurds as the US was gathering allies in the region, or Greenwald publishing leaks related to China during the US/China cyber summit, and countless other similar examples, team Greenwald selects and times publishing leaks from the Snowden archive to influence events (to interfere with the US and their closet allies’ foreign policy goals, and to cause maximal political friction within those alliances).

This time Greenwald timed releases from his stolen document cache to buttress his appearance at a political rally, dragged Snowden along to reinforce his message and to explicitly call on the audience to vote, all to try his hand at influencing the top elections of a key ally. The event and Greenwald’s travel was paid for by Dotcom, all in support of Dotcom’s pet political party. Dotcom the premium number defrauder, the pirated software seller, the insider trader, the embezzler, convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud and 10 counts of data espionage, whose recent fortune was made by knowingly mass-hosting pirated software, music and porn while charging his users for premium access.

357 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:00:40pm

re: #353 Kragar

“The new curriculum even went so far as to explicitly ban Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution — although it was not previously taught in Iraqi schools.”

It’s the rare double-banning.

358 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 7:01:14pm

re: #355 EPR-radar

Who does ISIS think they are? US Republicans?

ISIS are amateurs, real religious zealots home school.

359 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:02:35pm

re: #353 Kragar

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No. No surprise there at all. :(

360 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 7:03:24pm

One last hair comment. A picture of me 9 years ago.

361 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:03:40pm

re: #354 PhillyPretzel

OT I am very pissed off because I have an album on my iPhone that I did not order. It is supposed to be a gift from Apple. Should I give them heck or should I just ignore it?

Send it to me since 1) I do like U2 and 2) they neglected to send me a copy? //// (I do like U2 but …)

362 PhillyPretzel  Sep 15, 2014 7:05:11pm

re: #361 William Barnett-Lewis

Open your iTunes and you will get it from Apple. It is free.

363 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:06:04pm

re: #356 simoom

It’s worse than that.

Just like with Poitras publishing leaks related to Turkey and the Kurds as the US was gathering allies in the region, or Greenwald publishing leaks related to China during the US/China cyber summit, and countless other similar examples, team Greenwald selects and times publishing leaks from the Snowden archive to influence events (to interfere with the US and their closet allies’ foreign policy goals, and to cause maximal political friction within those alliances).

This time Greenwald timed releases from his stolen document cache to buttress his appearance at a political rally, dragged Snowden along to reinforce his message and to explicitly call on the audience to vote, all to try his hand at influencing the top elections of a key ally. The event and Greenwald’s travel was paid for by Dotcom, all in support of Dotcom’s pet political party. Dotcom the premium number defrauder, the pirated software seller, the insider trader, the embezzler, convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud and 10 counts of data espionage, whose recent fortune was made by knowingly mass-hosting pirated software, music and porn while charging his users for premium access.

Your analysis is totally on the mark, as always. Would make an excellent LGF Page.

364 klys  Sep 15, 2014 7:06:23pm

re: #354 PhillyPretzel

OT I am very pissed off because I have an album on my iPhone that I did not order. It is supposed to be a gift from Apple. Should I give them heck or should I just ignore it?

How to emphasize the security of iCloud accounts, Apple style: add an album to people’s phones without their prior knowledge or consent.

365 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:06:28pm

re: #341 RealityBasedSteve

Depends on how fancy you want it… I’d think about doing a chicken and cabbage stir fry. If you wanted something more casual, I’d probably do a chicken braise with cabbage and noodles. I’ve done this one before… and let me tell you that it’s SO GOOD!!!

Another option, do a roast on the chicken, and then do sauteed cabbage and apples with carraway. That would be a bit more ‘formal’, but would be a classic. I’d probably do it with roasted new potatoes or cut regular potatoes into smaller chunks, serve along with some good rye bread and butter and I think you’d have a winner.

RBS

I saw the noodle dish online. It seemed interesting but it’s really good to hear a recommendation.

366 bratwurst  Sep 15, 2014 7:06:32pm

re: #354 PhillyPretzel

OT I am very pissed off because I have an album on my iPhone that I did not order. It is supposed to be a gift from Apple. Should I give them heck or should I just ignore it?

Fear not…due to the outcry against this “disruptive” marketing on the part of Apple and U2, there is now a dedicated Apple support page on how to remedy this!

Remove iTunes gift album “Songs of Innocence” from your iTunes music library and purchases

367 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:08:31pm

Oh No, Rush Limbaugh’s greatest fear

368 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:08:36pm

re: #362 PhillyPretzel

Open your iTunes and you will get it from Apple. It is free.

Being smartassed. I didn’t mind iTunes, but it’s not the thing I miss the most from Windows/MacOS X on my Linux machine either. If I really want it free, I know where to find it. More likely I’ll buy the tracks I like instead.

369 Romantic Heretic  Sep 15, 2014 7:09:18pm

re: #340 Lidane

WTF is this RWNJ obsession with the President needing to be “feared and respected”? Makes no sense.

The President is America! If he is not feared and respected then neither is America!

This would never have happened if we had a white, conservative President. The world would consist mostly of craters of radioactive glass, but we’d be feared and respected!

370 PhillyPretzel  Sep 15, 2014 7:10:27pm

re: #366 bratwurst

Thank you very much. That album is gone. :) And I shut down the automatic downloads.

371 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:11:53pm

Thanks Apple, for not putting the Hiking the Appalachians Political Family Album photos on my phone.

372 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:12:12pm
373 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 7:12:59pm

re: #369 Romantic Heretic

The President is America! If he is not feared and respected then neither is America!

This would never have happened if we had a white, conservative President. The world would consist mostly of craters of radioactive glass, but we’d be feared and respected!

A REAL AMERICAN President will Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Sadly, that’s not too far off the mark of what some are saying.

RBS

374 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:14:05pm

375 PhillyPretzel  Sep 15, 2014 7:14:08pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

I was ready to cancel my iPhone over this mess. Now I do not have to thanks to my fellow Lizards.

376 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:14:41pm

Yes!

377 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 7:14:50pm

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded image]

squeee (and I NEVER squee)

RBS

378 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:16:03pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

I imagine they said something like “hold my beer and watch this.”

379 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:16:11pm
380 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:16:33pm

“This is not your device. This is not your data. You’re only a renter.”

381 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:17:06pm

Adobe has delivered this message also.

382 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:17:41pm

re: #380 jaunte

“This is not your device. This is not your data. You’re only a renter.”

This is not my beautiful house! This is not my beautiful wife!

383 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 15, 2014 7:17:47pm

Well shitcakes.

Does this mean that my grandson’s brand new iPad comes with the U2 album already on it?

384 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 7:17:48pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

EAT YOUR PEAS - APPLE

385 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 7:17:54pm

re: #340 Lidane

WTF is this RWNJ obsession with the President needing to be “feared and respected”? Makes no sense.

life without daddy is scary

386 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:18:11pm

re: #381 jaunte

Adobe has delivered this message also.

Gawd, just fuck Adobe with their updates!

387 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:18:18pm

re: #382 Rev_Arthur_Belling

And you may ask yourself- Well…How did I get here?

388 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:18:50pm

The Utility Model.

389 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:19:08pm
390 klys  Sep 15, 2014 7:19:15pm

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

Well shitcakes.

Does this mean that my grandson’s brand new iPad comes with the U2 album already on it?

Unclear is sadly the best answer I can give.

391 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 7:19:22pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I never got the album. Was this a result of people having checked iTunes -> Preferences -> Store -> Automatic Downloads -> Music ?

Obviously the problem is that option is supposed to be for purchased content.

392 dog philosopher  Sep 15, 2014 7:20:38pm

re: #373 RealityBasedSteve

A REAL AMERICAN President will Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Sadly, that’s not too far off the mark of what some are saying.

RBS

where’s mah booty???

393 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:21:08pm

re: #391 goddamnedfrank

I never got the album. Was this a result of people having checked iTunes -> Preferences -> Store -> Automatic Downloads -> Music ?

Obviously the problem is that option is supposed to be for purchased content.

On your iPhone, it’s under the music app. I just found it today.

394 b_sharp  Sep 15, 2014 7:21:31pm

re: #360 teleskiguy

One last hair comment. A picture of me 9 years ago.

[Embedded content]

40 years ago my hair was about 2/3 that length but very curly. Think Robert Plant on Led Zeppelin II cover.

395 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 15, 2014 7:22:58pm

re: #392 dog philosopher

where’s mah booty???

Check your iDevice. Apple is giving out Obama-Tunes to everyone.

RBS

396 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:23:07pm

re: #381 jaunte

Adobe has delivered this message also.

Every megacorp has delivered this message in one way or another. Why the special freakout over Apple letting the mask slip?

397 Bubblehead II  Sep 15, 2014 7:23:43pm

Night Lizards. As usual, May the Deity of you choice smile down upon yours.

398 Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2014 7:23:52pm

re: #381 jaunte

Adobe has delivered this message also.

Oh Adobe.

399 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:24:12pm

re: #396 William Barnett-Lewis

I think it’s the pushing the data out to everyone’s device that made it special.

400 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:25:53pm

Personally, I like free stuff.

401 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 7:26:25pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

That is a really good point.

402 PhillyPretzel  Sep 15, 2014 7:26:37pm

re: #396 William Barnett-Lewis

Because it is not my type of music and I did not ask for it. Or as Violet would put it “Put that in your pipe and smoke it.”

403 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 7:27:01pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

I’ve reviewed Dalrymple’s columns over at Takimag and they are indeed not bigoted. But enough other stuff there is bigoted to warrant that Page’s permanent removal.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

404 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:27:53pm

COFFEE COUPON!!!!!

405 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 7:28:22pm

re: #393 Rev_Arthur_Belling

On your iPhone, it’s under the music app. I just found it today.

Right, but it doesn’t show up unless you check automatic downloads (music.)

If you would like to stop purchases from automatically downloaded to your library, open the iTunes preferences, click on the Store tab, and uncheck the automatic downloads box.

Again, the problem is that this option is supposed to automatically download content you’ve purchased on other devices. Nobody chose to purchase the U2 album, so the automatic download preference option shouldn’t have applied to it.

406 klys  Sep 15, 2014 7:30:15pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

I’ve reviewed Dalrymple’s columns over at Takimag and they are indeed not bigoted. But enough other stuff there is bigoted to warrant that Page’s permanent removal.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Did you review the link WW left for you? Here’s a nice highlight from it:

The fundamental problem is this: There is an asymmetry between the good that many moderate Muslims can do for Britain and the harm that a few fanatics can do to it. The 1-in-1,000 chance that a man is a murderous fanatic is more important to me than the 999-in-1,000 chance that he is not a murderous fanatic: If, that is, he is not especially valuable or indispensable to me in some way.

And the plain fact of the matter is that British society could get by perfectly well without the contribution even of moderate Muslims. The only thing we really want from Muslims is their oil money for bank deposits, to prop up London property prices and to sustain the luxury market; their cheap labor that we imported in the 1960s in a vain effort to bolster the dying textile industry, which could not find local labor, is now redundant. In other words, one of the achievements of the bombers and would-be bombers is to make discrimination against most Muslims who wish to enter Britain a perfectly rational policy.

This is the person who you described as “always-good, often-excellent.”

407 b.d.  Sep 15, 2014 7:32:02pm

It’s like a bad movie. Where are the guys in the turtle costumes?

408 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:34:36pm
409 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 7:35:07pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

Please Page that.

re: #279 William Barnett-Lewis

Agreed.

I say that as an infantry NCO who would have been ecstatic to have so good a soldier as his sister was in his platoon.

Done.

410 FemNaziBitch  Sep 15, 2014 7:35:46pm

bbl

411 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:36:20pm

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

Right, but it doesn’t show up unless you check automatic downloads (music.)

Again, the problem is that this option is supposed to automatically download content you’ve purchased on other devices. Nobody chose to purchase the U2 album, so the automatic download preference option shouldn’t have applied to it.

Actually, I just checked under “artists” in the Music app. I had no idea this had happened. It’s pretty creepy, I’ll grant. I’m just trying to answer the question you posed.

412 goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2014 7:37:31pm

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

Right, but it doesn’t show up unless you check automatic downloads (music.)

Again, the problem is that this option is supposed to automatically download content you’ve purchased on other devices. Nobody chose to purchase the U2 album, so the automatic download preference option shouldn’t have applied to it.

Are there any other “free” albums on iTunes? There are free apps on the app store but I think the problem might have come about as a result of either accounting rules or the legalese of licensing agreements Apple has with the music industry to set certain minimum prices. Giving the album away for “free” might have violated certain contractual rules, so they made the equally poor decision to automatically mark it as “purchased” in everyone’s account. And that is what triggered the automatic download for everyone who had that preference option checked.

413 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 7:38:48pm

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

Are there any other “free” albums on iTunes? There are free apps on the app store but I think the problem might have come about as a result of either accounting rules or the legalese of licensing agreements Apple has with the music industry to set certain minimum prices. Giving the album away for “free” might have violated certain contractual rules, so they made the equally poor decision to automatically mark it as “purchased” in everyone’s account. And that is what triggered the automatic download for everyone who had that preference option checked.

There are free books. Not sure about free music. I think the problem is that it was “pushed” out without consent.

414 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 7:39:10pm

Re: Apple mainlining the new U2 album to everyone:

I went to Apple’s U2 page looking for instructions on how to download the new album, thinking that was going to be the way to get it.

When I read the page and saw that they were going to essentially force download it to everyone, my first thought was “This is going to cause a shitstorm.”

As for the album itself? Eh, it’s U2. Not horrible, not a ground breaker. What’s been an eyeopener is how many people on the Internet hate U2 with the power of a thousand burning supernovas.

415 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 7:40:28pm

Wasn’t there a U2 iPod that they released too?

416 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:41:35pm
417 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 7:42:28pm

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t there a U2 iPod that they released too?

Yeah, that was an old click wheel one from like 2005 or so.

I wish at the time Apple had forced me to take that for free. Of course, the mode of delivery would probably have been Steve Jobs breaking into my house and hooking it up to my Mac.

418 TedStriker  Sep 15, 2014 7:42:40pm

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t there a U2 iPod that they released too?

Sure was, four versions between ‘04 and ‘06 (4th and 5th Gen); here a pic of one of the last revisions:

419 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 7:43:37pm

It turns out Putin’s proxies in the Ukraine have even more evil support than previously suspected.

This photo clearly shows Basement Cat providing the pro-Russian forces with instruction on how to be evil.

/Kidding. it’s really just another ‘cats in the war zone’ photo.

420 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 7:43:37pm

re: #418 TedStriker

Sure was, back in ‘06:
[Embedded image]

God I remember winning a 40 Gig I think at my high school graduation party and it was so revolutionary for the time. I have 173 gigs of music now by comp.

421 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 7:44:34pm

Apple did another thing that irked me recently actually with the iPhone. It imported all my facebook friends into my phone contacts. I didn’t want that. Not a huge deal I guess but if I want to have someone as a contact on my phone, I will add them myself.

422 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 7:45:20pm

Probable Darwin Award Nominee.

423 teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2014 7:45:54pm
424 bratwurst  Sep 15, 2014 7:47:04pm

re: #414 Mattand

What’s been an eyeopener is how many people on the Internet hate U2 with the power of a thousand burning supernovas.

Bob Lefsetz (blowhard “industry insider” blogger) can’t seem to write on ANY topic without mentioning his hatred for U2 and iTunes.

Speaking of Apple and iPods…with the death of iPod “classic” recently, I discovered that now the largest iPod capacity available now is 64GB (on the top of the line iPod touch). That is not nearly enough to hold my library, and I am amazed that the retail shelves have apparently been scoured of all high capacity iPod classics. I guess I will have to wait until the gougers on eBay lose interest before I can locate a backup for mine.

425 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 7:48:52pm

re: #424 bratwurst

Bob Lefsetz (blowhard “industry insider” blogger) can’t seem to write on ANY topic without mentioning his hatred for U2 and iTunes.

Speaking of Apple and iPods…with the death of iPod “classic” recently, I discovered that now the largest iPod capacity available now is 64GB (on the top of the line iPod touch). That is not nearly enough to hold my library, and I am amazed that the retail shelves have apparently been scoured of all high capacity iPod classics. I guess I will have to wait until the gougers on eBay lose interest before I can locate a backup for mine.

I was really pissed that they did that. Really hope someone comes up with another massive MP3 player. Fortunately I recently replaced my classic.

426 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 7:50:10pm

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Apple did another thing that irked me recently actually with the iPhone. It imported all my facebook friends into my phone contacts. I didn’t want that. Not a huge deal I guess but if I want to have someone as a contact on my phone, I will add them myself.

If you’re on a Mac and signed in to FB using Internet Accounts in the System Prefs, I think that’s the default, unfortunately. You can cruise over there and turn off the Contacts option in the FB setting.

Not sure what the skinny is on Windows.

427 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 7:51:28pm

re: #426 Mattand

If you’re on a Mac and signed in to FB using Internet Accounts in the System Prefs, I think that’s the default, unfortunately. You can cruise over there and turn off the Contacts option in the FB setting.

Not sure what the skinny is on Windows.

Hmmmm. On Windows 7. It’s not a huge deal I guess. I just wish they hadn’t done it.

428 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 7:51:57pm

re: #409 Dark_Falcon

Done.

Replied. Thank you.

429 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 7:52:47pm

re: #371 jaunte

Thanks Apple, for not putting the Hiking the Appalachians Political Family Album photos on my phone.

Shhhh…don’t piss them off, they could put kiddie porn or terrorist manuals on there and then turn you in!

///

430 Mattand  Sep 15, 2014 7:53:07pm

re: #424 bratwurst

re: #425 HappyWarrior

There’s been a lot of unhappiness over that move, much for the reasons you folks describe. I would imagine that Apple had a sales number in mind, and once the classic dropped to it, they were going to pull the plug.

431 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 7:53:20pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

I’ve reviewed Dalrymple’s columns over at Takimag and they are indeed not bigoted. But enough other stuff there is bigoted to warrant that Page’s permanent removal.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

There’s simply no way Dalrymple would be writing for Takimag if he didn’t have affinity for their views. This is an openly racist website we’re talking about here. Wake up.

432 TedStriker  Sep 15, 2014 7:53:52pm

re: #424 bratwurst

Bob Lefsetz (blowhard “industry insider” blogger) can’t seem to write on ANY topic without mentioning his hatred for U2 and iTunes.

Speaking of Apple and iPods…with the death of iPod “classic” recently, I discovered that now the largest iPod capacity available now is 64GB (on the top of the line iPod touch). That is not nearly enough to hold my library, and I am amazed that the retail shelves have apparently been scoured of all high capacity iPod classics. I guess I will have to wait until the gougers on eBay lose interest before I can locate a backup for mine.

Good luck with that, because the iPod Classics are now officially collector’s items. As for me, my plain-Jane white 30GB Classic (circa 2006) is still truckin’, although it’ll freeze and require a hard restart every now and then. It’s long been retired from daily duty, though I still keep it updated; I’ve really mistreated it over the past 2-3 years, keeping it in a boombox with a iPod dock in my unheated/uncooled storage shed/workshop.

But, it still works.

433 jaunte  Sep 15, 2014 7:54:19pm

re: #429 ausador

I love my Apples so much I’m taking the license plates off my car.

434 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 7:56:00pm

Running Linux. If we get an album it’s going to be Finnish folk music.

435 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 8:00:11pm

re: #434 Decatur Deb

Running Linux. If we get an album it’s going to be Finnish folk music.

psst… thepiratebay is the linux equivalent of “Play Store”…

////////////

436 HappyWarrior  Sep 15, 2014 8:03:16pm

re: #430 Mattand

There’s been a lot of unhappiness over that move, much for the reasons you folks describe. I would imagine that Apple had a sales number in mind, and once the classic dropped to it, they were going to pull the plug.

Yeah stinks. i’m sure finding one won’t be impossible to find but I really want a massive MP3 player. Not the end of the world I guess. I have a love hate relationship with Apple honestly.

437 TedStriker  Sep 15, 2014 8:05:26pm

re: #434 Decatur Deb

Running Linux. If we get an album it’s going to be Finnish folk music.

I’ve recently started running my main desktop rig as a dual-boot Hackintosh; I’ve alway been a Windows guy, but after working with my cousin’s iMac, getting it updated from Leopard (!) to Mavericks and such, I decided to throw OS X on my PC.

It’s not exactly the same as on an “official” iDevice (mainly because of hardware differences), but it’s close enough for government work for me; in the past couple of weeks, I’ve spent the lion’s share of computer time at home on OS X, only booting into Win8.1 when I need to do something that I can’t do in OS X (which isn’t a lot).

I’ll never completely dump Windows for OS X, because I’m a gamer (though on a bit of a hiatus) and I have too much invested in PC games and other Windows software to do it, but OS X, even on a Hackintosh, is pretty sufficent for my daily routine.

438 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 15, 2014 8:09:23pm

re: #434 Decatur Deb

Running Linux. If we get an album it’s going to be Finnish folk music.

Tallest Man on Earth?

439 ausador  Sep 15, 2014 8:15:13pm

Cruz parody account…

440 joe90  Sep 15, 2014 8:17:48pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

I’ve reviewed Dalrymple’s columns over at Takimag and they are indeed not bigoted. But enough other stuff there is bigoted to warrant that Page’s permanent removal.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Not bigoted my arse.
/

en.wikiquote.org

441 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 8:19:41pm

Tiger in pork chop mode

442 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 15, 2014 8:20:47pm

DF, I answered your question.

443 Dark_Falcon  Sep 15, 2014 8:24:10pm

re: #442 William Barnett-Lewis

DF, I answered your question.

Thanks.

444 Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2014 8:25:31pm

re: #437 TedStriker

I’ve recently started running my main desktop rig as a dual-boot Hackintosh; I’ve alway been a Windows guy, but after working with my cousin’s iMac, getting it updated from Leopard (!) to Mavericks and such, I decided to throw OS X on my PC.

It’s not exactly the same as on an “official” iDevice (mainly because of hardware differences), but it’s close enough for government work for me; in the past couple of weeks, I’ve spent the lion’s share of computer time at home on OS X, only booting into Win8.1 when I need to do something that I can’t do in OS X (which isn’t a lot).

I’ll never completely dump Windows for OS X, because I’m a gamer (though on a bit of a hiatus) and I have too much invested in PC games and other Windows software to do it, but OS X, even on a Hackintosh, is pretty sufficent for my daily routine.

Heh. Today I re-installed an old laptop’s original drive with Ubuntu and its native Windows Vista for one reason—Civ 4. I had swapped in another drive with Windows 7, but the newer MS crap wouldn’t tolerate the game.
(Using that game at my exercise bike almost doubled my tolerance.)

445 WhatEVs  Sep 15, 2014 8:26:41pm

What’s in the water in MO?

446 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2014 8:28:40pm

NSA Cat - Mark II

Serval Cat - sub-Sahara Africa.

447 Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2014 8:29:23pm

You don’t publish your work at a racist site like Takimag unless you’re down with Takimag.

This is OBVIOUS.

448 sagehen  Sep 15, 2014 8:50:06pm

re: #445 WhatEVs

What’s in the water in MO?

[Embedded content]

History. The water of Missouri is full of history.

449 The War TARDIS  Sep 15, 2014 8:58:32pm

re: #255 freetoken

If independence fails, federalisation is the way to go.

450 wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2014 8:59:26pm

re: #447 Charles Johnson

You don’t publish your work at a racist site like Takimag unless you’re down with Takimag.

This is OBVIOUS.

NRO differs only in degree, imo.

I was going to point out that Dalrymple was published at Lew Rockwell’s site too, but it was just reruns from Takimag.

451 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 15, 2014 9:33:48pm

re: #311 The Ghost of a Flea

You’ll be shocked, shocked, to learn that the guest on Hannity who claimed that Janey Rice was at fault was A J Delgado, who did the National Review article about how most rapes are made up.

Delgado is the latest in a series of female writers pandering to a largely male conservative audience, following in the footsteps of Ann Coulter and S.E. Cupp. It’s hard to say whether she really believes what she writes and says (she has a law degree, so you know, lawyer jokes abound*), or whether she’s realized there’s easier money to be had in saying hateful and untruthful things in the media than in the courtroom.

* How do you know when a lawyer is lying? When he opens his mouth.


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