Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins: America Needs to Be More Like ISIS

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On his radio show today,Family Research Council head Tony Perkins argued that separation of church and state has left the US without a “creedal vision,” and if we want to prevail against Islamic extremist group ISIS we need to be more like them — but the Christian version.

Where there is no vision, the people perish. Hello, this is Tony Perkins with the Family Research Council in Washington. Americans have been shocked to see the brutality and barbarism of the Islamic militants of ISIS, and they’ve been stunned by the revelations that radicalized Americans have joined their ranks and taken up their cause. Pundits and politicians alike have publicly pondered the question as to how young Americans can be sucked into such an evil venture. While it may be troubling, the answer is not hard. Radical secularism that has driven the defining characteristics of our Western culture, our Judeo-Christian heritage, from our schools, our entertainment and even our government has left in its place a void, a vacuum. And we should know from experience that a vacuum will be filled by something. Without a creedal vision that a society can unify around, the people, the nation, will perish. Unless we are content to allow ISIS or some other radical belief system to fill the void left by secularism, we must rediscover America’s founding, Christ-centered vision.

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181 comments
1 Varek Raith  Sep 16, 2014 10:40:59am

Uh huh.
And just what is our ‘founding, Christ-centered vision’, Tony?
Spell it out for all to see.

2 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 10:41:26am

Ummm.. No.

3 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 10:42:07am
Without a creedal vision that a society can unify around, the people, the nation, will perish.

Get lost, Tony.

4 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 10:42:11am

re: #1 Varek Raith

Uh huh.
And just what is our ‘founding, Christ-centered vision’, Tony?
Spell it out for all to see.

If it’s Christ-centered, it’s not “Judeo-“.

5 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 10:42:38am

So ISIS is really terrible and awful but we need their kind of extremism.

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6 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 10:44:41am

Wut. Well I guess it’s refreshing that Perkins problem with ISIS is not tactics but their religion of choice. This is sick even for Perkins tho.

7 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 10:45:19am

Please drop the “Judeo” bullshit fig leaf. Kthxbai.

8 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 10:45:30am

So Perkins is okay with beheading “heathens.” I take it. why don’t you try to do a Christian version of ISIS on our soil you prick.

9 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 10:45:45am

Did somebody say Creedal?

10 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 10:46:04am

“How are we going to be able to set up a theocracy forcing everyone to adhere to our religion if ISIS gets there first?” - Tony Perkins

11 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 10:46:05am

re: #7 Pie-onist Overlord

Please drop the “Judeo” bullshit fig leaf. Kthxbai.

Seriously this fucker has had no qualms using an actual Neo-Nazi’s mailer list.

12 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 10:46:27am

SBOE textbook hearings have taken a break for lunch; back a bit later this afternoon. Watch as some sneaky board members try to insert their own “creedal visions” into our school textbooks, while denying their attempts.

13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 10:48:36am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

So Perkins is okay with beheading “heathens.” I take it. why don’t you try to do a Christian version of ISIS on our soil you prick.

See the “Orthodox Army” in Donbass.

14 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 10:49:06am
Radical secularism that has driven the defining characteristics of our Western culture, our Judeo-Christian heritage, from our schools, our entertainment and even our government has left in its place a void, a vacuum.

And crime is down, productivity is up, many people have health insurance for the first time—is there a down side?

Nature may abhor a vacuum, but ‘our Western culture’ seems to like ‘em.

15 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 10:49:34am

Speaking of dumbass Christians

16 Kid A  Sep 16, 2014 10:49:35am
17 Snarknado!  Sep 16, 2014 10:50:07am

What happened to the “vision” of the founders? It’s worked pretty well so far.

18 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 10:50:09am
19 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 10:51:25am

re: #15 Kragar

Speaking of dumbass Christians

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But I thought Conservatives LOVE Teh Juice?

20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 10:52:30am

re: #15 Kragar

Speaking of dumbass Christians

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He already told the Jews “you killed Jesus”. That’s deescalation. ////

21 CriticalDragon1177  Sep 16, 2014 10:52:43am

Tony Perkins, what “Christ Centered” vision was America founded on? Last I checked, the founding fathers feared a theocracy.

Oh I forgot, you mean the bigoted fantasy promoted by people like Bryan Fischer and David Barton.

22 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 10:53:01am

re: #18 jaunte

The Bill of Rights was originally 15 Amendments, but Moses dropped one of the tablets.
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23 makeitstop  Sep 16, 2014 10:53:42am

‘Creedal??’ Is that even a word? It just sounds weird.

Oh, and STFU, Perkins. Chumps like you are part of the problem.

24 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 10:54:06am

re: #15 Kragar

Speaking of dumbass Christians

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Sorbo is like if Mel Gibson lacked any talent.

25 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 10:54:25am

[reviewer Emile Lester, a political science associate professor at Virginia’s University of Mary Washington]:

…a lesson on affirmative action in the Pearson Education textbook includes a cartoon showing two space aliens looking down at Earth, with one saying, “Relax, we’ll be fine - they’ve got affirmative action.” The explainer goes on to note some call affirmative action “reverse discrimination” and asks the student to explain the cartoon.

“By associating space aliens with beneficiaries of affirmative action, the cartoon seems to convey to students the implication that women and racial and ethnic minorities that receive (it) are somehow un-American or even perhaps less than human,” Lester wrote. “The text does not have any counter-balancing cartoon that suggests to students possible reasons for supporting affirmative action.”
houstonchronicle.com

26 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 10:54:40am

re: #19 GeneJockey

But I thought Conservatives LOVE Teh Juice?

They do but not the liberal Hollywood ones or the New York ones.

27 lawhawk  Sep 16, 2014 10:54:41am

ISIS grows because we’re not enough like ISIS. Super.

Jews, Muslims, and Christians who don’t hew to his particular brand of creed, aren’t welcome.

He’s got the 1st Amendment right to say what he wants without government interference, but I’ll be damned if he tries to impose his views on everyone - effectively negating the 1st Amendment.

Our Founding Fathers were a whole lot smarter than these bigots, despots, and demagogues. They had faith that we’d do okay with the checks and balances they put in place to protect the rights of minorities (tyranny of the majority) as well as thwarting the potential tyranny of the minority (where a minority can subvert the process and impose their will on everyone else).

But people like Perkins, Fischer, Beck, and others are all pushing a brand of religious fundamentalism mixed with political and historical revisionism that throws the entire premise of government on its head.

We see it with fundamentalists trying to impose religious views in science texts (evolution/creationism, reproduction, etc.) and we see it with misogynistic and hateful legislation supposedly to protect rights of the unborn, but which harm the rights of the then living and breathing women.

This needs pushback. Lots of it.

/rant off.

28 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 10:54:44am

re: #23 makeitstop

‘Creedal??’ Is that even a word? It just sounds weird.

Oh, and STFU, Perkins. Chumps like you are part of the problem.

Sure it’s a word! Creedal. You know, like ‘from the creedal to the greave.”

29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 10:56:06am

re: #23 makeitstop

‘Creedal??’ Is that even a word?

Yep.

30 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 10:56:19am

re: #20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He already told the Jews “you killed Jesus”. That’s deescalation. ////

He’s like Basil Fawlty meeting the German guests.

Youtube Video

31 iossarian  Sep 16, 2014 10:58:06am

re: #30 Kragar

He’s like Basil Fawlty meeting the German guests.

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Fawlty: “You started it!”

German guest: “No, we did not.”

Fawlty: “Yes you did, you invaded Poland!”

32 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 10:59:01am

re: #29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yep.

Nothing like religion to end up with some crazy words. “salvific” as in RCC documents is a personal favorite.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:00:11am

*FLIPS DESK*
*LIGHTS IT ON FIRE*
*HURLS OUT THE WINDOW*

34 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:00:34am

re:
#15

So that’s why all these Christian movies like God Isn’t Dead and The Passion and Persecuted and all these other Christian movies keep getting made then?

35 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 11:01:02am

America Needs to Be More Like ISIS

36 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:02:17am

re:
#33

This is a gold mine for RWNJ. They can point out a blah man’s several illegitimate children while also cheering the spanking part.

37 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 11:02:40am

“The Fruit of Creedalism”:

Until the year 2000, Baptists were adamant opponents of creeds. In 1791, Virginia Baptist leader John Leland denounced creedalism saying, “Uninspired, fallible men make their own opinions tests of orthodoxy, and use their own systems, as Procrustes used his iron bedstead, to stretch and measure the consciences of all others by.” He added, “Supposing it was right for a man to bind his own conscience, yet surely it is very iniquitous to bind the consciences of his children — to make fetters for them before they are born, is very cruel.”

…snip…

In 1979 a coalition led by Paul Pressler and Paige Patterson organized a political takeover of the SBC. Their intention was to define strict doctrinal “parameters” and impose them on all the people employed by the SBC. To do that, they had to elect ten consecutive presidents of the SBC. After their presidents appointed only members of their coalition to serve as trustees of the boards and agencies, they would replace all the employees of the denomination with leaders and supporters of the coalition.
mainstreambaptists.org

Tony Perkins, Paul Pressler and the Council for National Policy:
en.wikipedia.org

38 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:03:21am

Either ISIS creates a global caliphate or we do! Who’s with me?!

39 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:03:57am

Unless we are content to allow ISIS or some other radical belief system to fill the void left by secularism, we must rediscover America’s founding, Christ-centered vision.

40 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:04:43am

re:
#39

We need to impose our own radical belief system!!!!!!

41 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 11:04:54am

More need to follow suit. This is the only way to get the NFL to start taking steps to end DV amonst it’s players.

42 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:05:03am

Christ centered vision? Wait. So the “founding fathers” were Jesuits? //

43 ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2014 11:07:21am

238 years this country has been going along fairly well with separation of church and state and now these idiots like Perkins think we need something different.

Has anyone stopped them from believing what they want? No.

Sounds to me Perkins is actually jealous that there isn’t an ISIS-like Christian group in America making sure everyone believes what he believes. And I have no doubt that if they could, they would like to ruthlessly instill their beliefs into others like an ISIS.

These people are our biggest threat to America. The inside threat to our constitution. I’m worried about ISIS. I am also worried about people like Perkins, David Barton, James Dobson and others.

44 missliberties  Sep 16, 2014 11:07:21am

Christian Jihad? Christian Taliban? Has a familiar ring to it.

Don’t forget to inscribe your favorite scripture verse on your bullets for Jesus.

45 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 11:07:54am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

*FLIPS DESK*
*LIGHTS IT ON FIRE*
*HURLS OUT THE WINDOW*

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Psycho. Or more accurate typical right winger.

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:08:16am

What is it with people sucking today? Is today Be A Horrible Human Being Day?

47 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:09:22am

re:
#46

I can’t wait until machines replace wingnut writer turds like Shapiro…..

48 Shazam  Sep 16, 2014 11:10:48am

re: #47 Bulworth

One could easily write code to replace him.

49 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:11:45am

Down with secularism! Down with the 1st Amendment! Down with separation of church and state! Down with the Establishment Clause! All hail this Christian nation founded on Christ and law in His word!

50 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 11:13:15am

re: #49 Gus

Tony Perkins should know that a refusal to follow his orders can’t actually be described as a “void.”

51 Romantic Heretic  Sep 16, 2014 11:13:30am

A Creedal Vision, Mr. Perkins? How about this one?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Or is that not Christian enough for you?

52 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 11:14:12am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

What is it with people sucking today? Is today Be A Horrible Human Being Day?

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Nah, today’s been a typical conservative day which means condoning child abuse and shitting on minimum wage workers. Just another day in the life for Debbie and Ben.

53 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:14:44am

Didn’t Tony get the memo from Bryan Fischer about all the “America sells bacon so it’s totally all Christian”?

54 Ace-o-aces  Sep 16, 2014 11:14:58am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh fer fucks sake, don’t follow Schlussel. She is mentally ill. Other RWNJs avoid her.

55 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 11:15:30am

re: #39 Gus

Unless we are content to allow ISIS or some other radical belief system to fill the void left by secularism, we must rediscover America’s founding, Christ-centered vision.

These people are scary. Like truly shit your pants scary. Like the scary the reality of the Lindsay “I’m scared of everything” Graham scary.

56 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:15:57am

As long as America’s stores and eateries sell bacon then I think we’re safe from the radical ideology of ISIS.

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57 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 11:18:19am

re: #23 makeitstop

‘Creedal??’ Is that even a word? It just sounds weird.

Oh, and STFU, Perkins. Chumps like you are part of the problem.

Refers to the followers of a mediocre grunge-rock band.

58 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 11:18:22am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

What is it with people sucking today? Is today Be A Horrible Human Being Day?

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See what happens when you order pineapple on a pizza?

59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:18:26am

What Perkins means is that you need moar of these:

(One of the Orthodox DNR bandits with the 90th psalm on his head.)

60 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 11:18:59am

re: #1 Varek Raith

Uh huh.
And just what is our ‘founding, Christ-centered vision’, Tony?
Spell it out for all to see.

Treaty of Tripoli. Unanimously ratified by US senate 1797 by people that, you know, were fucking there for the founding.

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

61 Ace-o-aces  Sep 16, 2014 11:19:05am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

62 Romantic Heretic  Sep 16, 2014 11:19:19am

re: #49 Gus

Down with secularism! Down with the 1st Amendment! Down with separation of church and state! Down with the Establishment Clause! All hail this Christian nation founded on Christ and law in His word!

The Kinks already wrote this four decades ago.

Youtube Video

Lyrics.

63 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 11:20:28am

A creedal vision eh?

Well maybe we should just adhere to the Assassin’s Creed, it’s just as valid and wholly made up.

64 Shazam  Sep 16, 2014 11:20:56am

I thought a nation was a group of people who agree to work together and not kill each other so much. I didn’t know a religious creed was necessary.

65 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:22:39am

Breaking news.

66 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 11:23:05am

re: #31 iossarian

Fawlty: “You started it!”

German guest: “No, we did not.”

Fawlty: “Yes you did, you invaded Poland!”

DON’T MENTION THE WAR!

67 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:23:32am

Guess that happened at least 7 hours ago.

68 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 11:24:06am

The Southern Baptist Convention has 16 million members. If Perkins and his gang are staging a ‘creedal’ coup, that’s a pretty strong base.

69 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:25:17am
State police commissioner Frank Noonan released information on Frein at a news conference Tuesday, describing him as a “survivalist.” He has expressed anti-government views and has a criminal background, Noonan said.

pennlive.com

70 Internet Tough Guy  Sep 16, 2014 11:26:11am
71 Romantic Heretic  Sep 16, 2014 11:26:59am

re: #65 Gus

Breaking news.

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Yet another example displaying how bad mental health care is here in North America. If this guy had Ebola he’d have been identified and isolated long before he did any harm.

But obviously crazy enough to kill police from ambush? Eh. Why worry?

72 lawhawk  Sep 16, 2014 11:27:15am

re: #65 Gus

Well, I said it was either a lone nut or a sovereign citizen type. Looks like I hit the daily double.

73 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:27:34am
74 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:31:17am

re: #73 Gus

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Welp, how much u want to bet he’ll be taken alive? Unless he shoots himself.

75 makeitstop  Sep 16, 2014 11:31:37am

Years of non-stop incitement of people like this guy has resulted in a dead cop. I hope Beck, Hannity and the rest of the people who got this guy all jumped up on hate sleep well tonight.

76 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:32:34am

re: #74 Pie-onist Overlord

Welp, how much u want to bet he’ll be taken alive? Unless he shoots himself.

Not sure. Traditionally, cop killers aren’t given much “benefit of the doubt.”

77 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 11:34:51am

re: #72 lawhawk

Well, I said it was either a lone nut or a sovereign citizen type. Looks like I hit the daily double.

Edited: I had linked to someone’s weird twitter reply, but I think it’s been deleted. Something about it being “a great press conference,” but it’s all a false flag or something.

78 Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2014 11:37:19am

CNN Breaking News headline is saying NASA will award contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to fly astronauts to ISS starting in 2017. The linked article hasn’t been updated to reflect that. Developing….

79 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 11:37:25am

re: #14 wrenchwench

And crime is down, productivity is up, many people have health insurance for the first time—is there a down side?

Nature may abhor a vacuum, but ‘our Western culture’ seems to like ‘em.

Yes… I’ve seen some RWNJ sites and commentators complaining that now it takes longer to see a doctor, because more people are able to get medical care and treatment without waiting at the ER.

The horrors, people having the ability to live normal lives, and actually get health care.

RBS

80 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:37:53am

PZ:

Well, I’m going to have to write off Richard Dawkins now. He’s been eaten by the brain parasites

Read more: freethoughtblogs.com

And:

Sam Harris recently stuck his foot in his mouth, claiming that the lack of women in active positions within atheism is because atheism lacks that “estrogen vibe” and that a “critical posture” is “intrinsically male”, which got him some heat. So he scurried off and has written a reply: I’m not the sexist pig you’re looking for.

Wrong.

Read more: freethoughtblogs.com

81 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 11:38:46am

re: #73 Gus

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That can’t be correct. He’s not black, Muslim, or even a scary looking white guy.

RBS

82 Gus  Sep 16, 2014 11:39:27am

re: #80 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

PZ:

And:

I’ve written them all off including PZ. I don’t need no stinking “leaders.”

83 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 11:40:04am

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

CNN Breaking News headline is saying NASA will award contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to fly astronauts to ISS starting in 2017. The linked article hasn’t been updated to reflect that. Developing….

Space X hasn’t tweeted anything about it either

84 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:41:00am
85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:41:55am

re: #82 Gus

I’ve written them all off including PZ. I don’t need no stinking “leaders.”

So one is either a leader or must be written off? Weird. But whatever.

86 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:42:17am

re:
#72

Dim Jim going through guy’s FB page looking for Occupy-likes.

half sarc

87 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 11:44:49am

re: #80 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

What’s been funny/sad is Myers has been wrestling for months with the realization that Dawkins has a nasty misogynistic streak in him, whereas most people (including his readership) have all been “Fuck Dawkins” by now.

88 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 11:46:02am

re:
#84

Im Right and I win!!!!11

89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:46:52am

re: #87 Mattand

Well, for one, they’re personal acquaintances.

90 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 11:46:53am

re: #34 Bulworth

re:
#15

So that’s why all these Christian movies like God Isn’t Dead and The Passion and Persecuted and all these other Christian movies keep getting made then?

Speaking of right-wing movies…

Some examples of opening weekend box office:

No Good Deed $24,250,283 ($11,150 average)
Dolphin Tale 2 $15,873,397 ($ 4,342 average)
Atlas Shrugged 3 $ 461,179 ($ 1,906 average)
Disappearance
of Eleanor Rigby $ 66,941 ($16,735 average)

boxofficemojo.com

91 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 11:47:12am

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

CNN Breaking News headline is saying NASA will award contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to fly astronauts to ISS starting in 2017. The linked article hasn’t been updated to reflect that. Developing….

CNN IS NEVER WRONG OR JUMPS THE GUN!!!1!

EVER!

92 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 11:47:36am

re: #82 Gus

I’ve written them all off including PZ. I don’t need no stinking “leaders.”

To be fair, Myers will be the first to tell he is not, nor desires to be, a leader of atheism.

I don’t think Dawkns, Harris, et. al, ascribe to that either. However, like it or not, the rest of the world sees these guys as Atheist Popes because they’re highly visible.

So it’s a problem when guys like Harris and Dawkins get their “Fuck feminists” on. Or in Harris’s case, atheism is not nurturing enough for the wimmens.

EDIT: should have been “is not nurturing”

93 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:49:24am

re: #87 Mattand

What’s been funny/sad is Myers has been wrestling for months with the realization that Dawkins has a nasty misogynistic streak in him, whereas most people (including his readership) have all been “Fuck Dawkins” by now.

Amanda Marcotte has been writing about misogyny among atheist leaders for a long time.

I just went over to look at Pandagon and OH MY EYES Rawstory changed their format. KILL IT WITH FIRE. Gah.

94 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:50:43am

re: #92 Mattand

I would prefer if philosophers were the “icons” of atheism (the world can’t do without “icons”, sad but true) - it is, after all, at its core a philosophical issue and there are plenty of them on our side. But they don’t write NYT bestsellers, I guess.

95 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 11:51:01am

re: #91 b.d.

CNN IS NEVER WRONG OR JUMPS THE GUN!!!1!

EVER!

Well Boeing getting part of the contract is a given But fully expect Space X to get a slice as well as their Dragon capsule is already proven tech and is well on it’s way to being man rated.

96 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2014 11:51:13am

re: #19 GeneJockey

But I thought Conservatives LOVE Teh Juice?

Supposedly they love Israel but…

97 Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2014 11:51:40am

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

By Bryan’s metric China is more Christian than the US.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:52:01am

Oh, well that takes a load off my mind.

99 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 11:52:05am

I don’t believe in atheist leaders.

100 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 11:53:33am

@ZackKopplin is live-tweeting the Texas history textbook adoption proceedings and it is a fucking horror show.

101 lawhawk  Sep 16, 2014 11:53:37am

re: #98 Pie-onist Overlord

Contrary to senationalist and self-serving claims by Greenwald, Snowden, et seq., the NSA data gathering methods were harmed by Snowden’s data releases theft and espionage - especially those that had nothing to do with supposed US civil rights violations.

102 Amory Blaine  Sep 16, 2014 11:53:47am

re: #38 Gus

Either ISIS creates a global caliphate or we do! Who’s with me?!

“Nothing’s over until we decide it is!!”
~Bluto

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 11:53:50am

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Refers to the followers of a mediocre grunge-rock band.

Creedal Crapwater Revival.

104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:53:51am

re: #99 wrenchwench

I don’t believe in atheist leaders.

Are there any?

105 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2014 11:54:28am

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

I would have thought Bryan was more interested in sausage.

/

106 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 11:55:18am

re: #89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, for one, they’re personal acquaintances.

I feel bad for Myers. However, if it had been any other prominent atheist spewing the stuff Dawkins was, Myers would have been (rightly) castigating that person with a litany of insults and vulgarity until the cows came home; got some sleep; and went out again.

Shit, the Pharyngula readership, aka The Horde, were asking Myers “WTF?” That’s not something they do very often.

107 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:55:42am

re: #101 lawhawk

Contrary to senationalist and self-serving claims by Greenwald, Snowden, et seq., the NSA data gathering methods were harmed by Snowden’s data releases theft and espionage - especially those that had nothing to do with supposed US civil rights violations.

YOU DON’T SAY

108 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 11:55:43am

re: #104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Are there any?

No. Not if I don’t believe in them.

109 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2014 11:56:47am

How often does SBOE meet?

I thought we were done with this crap already.

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 11:56:59am
111 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 11:57:02am

re: #98 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh, well that takes a load off my mind.

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So it’s either:

The terrorist already knew everything that we had released!
OR
We released earth shattering information that no one knew about!!!

They really can’t have it both ways.

112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 11:57:42am

re: #108 wrenchwench

No. Not if I don’t believe in them.

Exactly ;)

113 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 11:59:08am

They’re debating what history books to adopt for schools in Texas.

114 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 11:59:13am

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

Amanda Marcotte has been writing about misogyny among atheist leaders for a long time.

I just went over to look at Pandagon and OH MY EYES Rawstory changed their format. KILL IT WITH FIRE. Gah.

LOL.

I’m torn on the new Raw Story logo. The Pandagon layout isn’t all that bad, but the Pandagon logo is out of place and distracting. Does not flow with the design at all.

What’s upsetting me about Pandagon is that there’s a story about how Penn Jillette is again trying to defend his sexist comments. Penn just keeps demonstrating there’s no hole too deep for him to keep digging in.

115 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 11:59:21am

re: #92 Mattand

To be fair, Myers will be the first to tell he is not, nor desires to be, a leader of atheism.

I don’t think Dawkns, Harris, et. al, ascribe to that either. However, like it or not, the rest of the world sees these guys as Atheist Popes because they’re highly visible.f

So it’s a problem when guys like Harris and Dawkins get their “Fuck feminists” on. Or in Harris’s case, atheism is nurturing enough for the wimmens.

IIRC, all three of them, and Shermer too, feel that Islam is ‘worse’ than other religions, which is just bigotry in my opinion.

116 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:03:34pm
117 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:03:43pm

It gets windy in AZ.

118 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 12:04:26pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

IIRC, all three of them, and Shermer too, feel that Islam is ‘worse’ than other religions, which is just bigotry in my opinion.

Myers doesn’t single out Islam like Harris and Dawkins do, and Hitchens did.

From what I’ve read, Harris walks right up to that “Bomb ‘em into the Stone Age” ass hattery, much like Hitchens did.

119 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 12:04:28pm

Yep, arming the “rebels” may not be such a great idea.

120 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 16, 2014 12:05:07pm

re: #27 lawhawk

Our Founding Fathers were also well aware of European history.

Heck even just recent British history in isolation would provide a cautionary note about the role of religion in politics. Irish Troubles, Jacobins, the Roundheads. Culloden (1746) would have been within the lifetime of many of them.

And the hot mess of Stuart and Georgian religious politics was just a callback to the awfulness of the Tudor era.

121 Mattand  Sep 16, 2014 12:10:29pm

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

Amanda Marcotte has been writing about misogyny among atheist leaders for a long time.

I just went over to look at Pandagon and OH MY EYES Rawstory changed their format. KILL IT WITH FIRE. Gah.

Just saw the actual Raw Story homepage.

Ye gods, what a clusterfuck.

122 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:11:13pm

PZ used to post Condell. But he got better years ago.

123 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2014 12:13:16pm

Soon when did some committee become able to decide what is or isn’t history?

124 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 12:14:47pm

Well, I guess this is definitive. We can all pack it in and go home now. //

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) defended his proposed abortion ban this week, saying that if a pregnant mother sings to her fetus then it must be considered a person.

(So, if a pregnant woman doesn’t sing, she can get an abortion, amirite?)

125 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:16:29pm
126 Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2014 12:16:59pm

re: #124 BeachDem

Well, I guess this is definitive. We can all pack it in and go home now. //

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) defended his proposed abortion ban this week, saying that if a pregnant mother sings to her fetus then it must be considered a person.

(So, if a pregnant woman doesn’t sing, she can get an abortion, amirite?)

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of desks suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

127 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:17:18pm

I posted this in June. My brother just won a prize for it. Hardest part was identifying all the critters.

128 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 12:18:58pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

Evolution is a theory and not a fact

evolution is a fact

how it happened is where the theories come in

129 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 12:20:46pm

re: #127 wrenchwench

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I posted this in June. My brother just won a prize for it. Hardest part was identifying all the critters.

i think the spider is eating a capacitor

130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:21:05pm

re: #127 wrenchwench

A crab spider attacks a bee on top of a flower, while a moth searches for nectar in this winner for the community, population, and macroecology section.

131 BongCrodny  Sep 16, 2014 12:21:28pm

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

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I suspect that if PBO or Hillary held a press conference and said “It’s all my fault,” that would be more than enough for Cruz.

He wants the truth about as much as I want another appendix.

132 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 12:22:53pm

TBogg nails it, as usual:

While the Mama Grizzly turned Vince McMahon’s other wife is missing the boat by not filming her Rock’em Sock’em Chillbilly Rasslin’ Tag Team terrorizing the quaint meth capital of Alaska and putting it on pay-per-view, she is providing banal slices of life by showing herself doing perfectly normal stuff and thinking you will be delighted by it…

It’s awkward and weird and you wonder why Palin invited them into her compound until you see their yarmulkes and you get the feeling that she’s going to spin off a new show called “Touched By A Jew…”

Sarah Palin’s TV Channel is now just a hot mess existential version of ‘Wayne’s World’

133 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:23:33pm

Hmm, didn’t know Rove is an atheist.

134 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:24:23pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Soon when did some committee become able to decide what is or isn’t history?

LGF has been at this beat for a while.

Relevant article: littlegreenfootballs.com

Relevant LGF search: littlegreenfootballs.com

135 klys  Sep 16, 2014 12:24:26pm

Second note in as many months asking me to call someone if I am looking to sell my car.

Mind you, I drive an older-model RAV4 and no, they can’t have my baby.

136 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 12:24:32pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

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They’re debating what history books to adopt for schools in Texas.

THERE IS ONLY ONE BOOK NEEDED.

137 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 12:24:48pm

So this showed up in my timeline LOLWHUT
RAISING TEH MINIMUM WAGE CAUSE MOAR POVERTYS!!!!!

138 ComradeDread  Sep 16, 2014 12:25:00pm
Without a creedal vision that a society can unify around, the people, the nation, will perish.

If only there were some statement of principles that defined what the national government was, its composition, its powers, and its limitations, and what our rights as free citizens were.

Too bad we the people have nothing at all like that.

Guess it’s time to impose the Mosaic law. Sorry if you liked bacon.

139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:26:05pm

re: #133 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Hmm, didn’t know Rove is an atheist.

Then again, maybe not.

140 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 12:26:12pm

re:
#138

Yeah, big mistake of our Founders and by us to not have such a document.

/

141 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:26:12pm

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

A crab spider on a flower preying upon a euglossine bee, while a butterfly looks for nectar, taken on the slopes of Cerro Chucantí, Darién Province, in eastern Panama.

Bee specific!

142 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 12:27:18pm

re: #132 BeachDem

TBogg nails it, as usual:

While the Mama Grizzly turned Vince McMahon’s other wife is missing the boat by not filming her Rock’em Sock’em Chillbilly Rasslin’ Tag Team terrorizing the quaint meth capital of Alaska and putting it on pay-per-view, she is providing banal slices of life by showing herself doing perfectly normal stuff and thinking you will be delighted by it…

It’s awkward and weird and you wonder why Palin invited them into her compound until you see their yarmulkes and you get the feeling that she’s going to spin off a new show called “Touched By A Jew…”

Sarah Palin’s TV Channel is now just a hot mess existential version of ‘Wayne’s World’

I wouldn’t pay 9.95 a month for porn… and at least that serves a useful purpose. Why would anyone pay 9.95 a month for “The Palin Channel”? And I’m sorry, unless it’s on Dish / Cable, it’s not really a “Channel”

RBS

143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:27:37pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

Bee specific!

Winner:community, population and macroecology. “A crab spider on a flower preying upon a euglossine bee, while a butterfly looks for nectar, taken on the slopes of Cerro Chucantí, Darién Province, in eastern Panama. Note, the bee had already filled his ‘saddle bags’ with pollen before being attacked by the spider. The petals on the far side of the flower also appear to be succumbing to some kind of blight, perhaps due to a fungus.”

144 Lumberhead  Sep 16, 2014 12:27:49pm

re: #124 BeachDem

Well, I guess this is definitive. We can all pack it in and go home now. //

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) defended his proposed abortion ban this week, saying that if a pregnant mother sings to her fetus then it must be considered a person.

(So, if a pregnant woman doesn’t sing, she can get an abortion, amirite?)

My wife sings to our plants - that doesn’t make any of them people.

145 Lidane  Sep 16, 2014 12:28:10pm

Sure, that makes sense. If you’re a fucking lunatic:

Rick Wiles: Obama Hopes To Blow Up Schools

146 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 12:28:15pm

re:
#137

If you raise minimum wage, min wage turds who should be replaced with machine computers won’t have privilege of working overtime and working more time for less monies!!!1

147 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:28:17pm

148 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 12:29:18pm

re:
#137

Mah Freedom Firster!!!!1

He/she sounds nice.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 12:29:47pm

RAISING MINIMUM WAGE WILL RESULT IN KOCH BROTHERS HAVING LESS MONEYS TO SPEND ON ATTACK ADS & AFP-BOTS & WILL GIVE THEM TEH SADS!!!!

150 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:29:47pm

What’s the proper method to reuse a photo out of one’s Image Library? I drag them out, but I end up with double parentheses around them with the word ‘image’, and am left with a dotted border around my comment composition box, and around the ‘Upload Image’ button.

151 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 12:30:27pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

What’s the proper method to reuse a photo out of one’s Image Library? I drag them out, but I end up with double parentheses around them with the word ‘image’, and am left with a dotted border around my comment composition box, and around the ‘Upload Image’ button.

I use the INSERT option and it seems to work fine.

152 klys  Sep 16, 2014 12:30:31pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

What’s the proper method to reuse a photo out of one’s Image Library? I drag them out, but I end up with double parentheses around them with the word ‘image’, and am left with a dotted border around my comment composition box, and around the ‘Upload Image’ button.

There’s an “insert” button to the bottom right of every photo in your image library, next to where the caption is that you can edit.

153 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:30:39pm

re: #143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

OK, not that specific. Could you take his name out?

I know, horse—>barn door, etc.

154 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 12:31:00pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

What’s the proper method to reuse a photo out of one’s Image Library? I drag them out, but I end up with double parentheses around them with the word ‘image’, and am left with a dotted border around my comment composition box, and around the ‘Upload Image’ button.

You find the image in your image library and click the “insert” button

155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:31:31pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Done.

156 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 12:31:50pm

re: #90 BeachDem

Speaking of right-wing movies…

Some examples of opening weekend box office:

Atlas Shrugged 3 $ 461,179 ($ 1,906 average) - Theatre count: 242
Disappearance
of Eleanor Rigby $ 66,941 ($16,735 average) - Theatre count: 11

boxofficemojo.com

I never heard of the Eleanor Rigby film myself, but note the theatre count stats bolded above.

157 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:32:36pm

How does one do the nifty Twitter stream on a page? I want to page @ZackKopplin’s Twitter feed of the bad craziness going on with the Texas Board of Education.

158 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 12:33:04pm

Headline writers over at TMZ are awash in their newfound glory.

Dwight Howard

LICENSE SUSPENDED

Blows More Reds Than Communist Hooker

Read more: tmz.com

159 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:35:28pm
160 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:35:35pm

re: #151 Feline Fearless Leader

I use the INSERT option and it seems to work fine.

re: #152 klys

There’s an “insert” button to the bottom right of every photo in your image library, next to where the caption is that you can edit.

re: #154 Pie-onist Overlord

You find the image in your image library and click the “insert” button

Someone has stolen my insert button! All I have is a Tweet button…

161 klys  Sep 16, 2014 12:36:42pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Someone has stolen my insert button! All I have is a Tweet button…

[Embedded content]

Weird.

Time to ring the bell for better service, I think.

162 Lidane  Sep 16, 2014 12:36:52pm
163 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 12:37:34pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Someone has stolen my insert button! All I have is a Tweet button…

[Embedded content]

Are you on a phone?

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 12:38:06pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Someone has stolen my insert button! All I have is a Tweet button…

The BEES haz it!

165 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:38:11pm

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

Are you on a phone?

Nope. Big HP laptop.

166 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:38:18pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Someone has stolen my insert button! All I have is a Tweet button…

[Embedded content]

Must’ve been pinched by Grinch from the wench with a wrench.

167 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:38:25pm

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

The BEES haz it!

EEK!

168 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:39:23pm

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

The BEES haz it!

Not good to bee so fat!/

169 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 12:41:15pm

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

Are you on a phone?

I tested a pic from my phone. Once I got the file size within the acceptable limit, worked like a charm. Charles did a great job with his mobile site. They usually suck hard. This one is pretty freaking good.

170 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:42:32pm

re: #169 WhatEVs

Even all the animated-rotating JS stuff is displayed without a glitch.

171 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 12:43:10pm

I know what I did wrong. I opened the Image Library all by itself, instead of using the Image Library button below the comment composition box.
Thanks to all who tried to help me.

173 A Mom Anon  Sep 16, 2014 12:46:05pm

Dear Tony Perkins,
America: Love It or Leave It. Buh, Bye.

174 teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2014 12:48:14pm
175 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 12:48:14pm

re: #173 A Mom Anon

Dear Tony Perkins,
America: Love It or Leave It. Buh, Bye.

And please give serious consideration to the later.

Thank you.

The majority of Americans

176 blueraven  Sep 16, 2014 12:51:54pm

re: #73 Gus

Because this guy is white and most likely a right winger (aka *patriot*) there will be little interest on cable news…unless there is a dramatic capture/shoot-out.

If he had been Black and/or Muslim; wall to wall fear mongering.

177 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 12:51:55pm

re: #156 WhatEVs

I never heard of the Eleanor Rigby film myself, but note the theatre count stats bolded above.

Yeah—that’s why I put the average $ in, but thanks for adding the # of theaters—makes for an even better comparison.

178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:53:52pm

States’ rights are hooey.

179 sagehen  Sep 16, 2014 1:21:03pm

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

States’ rights are hooey.

um…. California’s right to have stricter emissions limits/air quality standards than the other 49. Vermont’s right to go Single Payer for their state’s health care plan.

States’ rights does have value; it just got a bad name when it was co-opted as the battle cry of people who don’t believe in the 14th Amendment (which very specifically, deliberately, constitutionally narrows the scope of rights States had used to have before it was passed.)

180 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 1:23:02pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

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I think Jon needs a history book himself.

181 retired cynic  Sep 16, 2014 3:36:23pm

re: #174 teleskiguy

Under the Texas Influence. Sounds bad to me!


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