Right Wingers Freaking Out at Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Feat. the Dumbest Man on the Internet

Yes, it’s another brain dead fake outrage
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Yes, folks, it’s yet another ridiculous trumped up fake outrage, spreading like wildfire through right wing blogs and news sites. You can probably expect to see this on Fox News any minute if it hasn’t shown up there already.

This time the idiots are freaking out at the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, who isn’t war-like enough for them. Gen. Dempsey was testifying at a hearing on ISIS today and made the following outrageous statement:

The nature of the threat is such that, as I mentioned, it will only be defeated when moderate Arab and Muslim populations in the region reject it. And therefore, the way forward seems to me to run clearly through a coalition of Arab and Muslim partners, and not through the ownership of the United States on this issue. And so the strategy does that.

It seeks to build a coalition, encourage an inclusive government to address the grievances that have caused this in the first place, it applies U.S. military power where we have unique capability to do so, and over time it allows those populations to reject ISIL.

And they’re off!

This dumb misconstrued fake outrage seems to have originated with the Weekly Standard’s Daniel Halper (as many of these stories do), who wrote:

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Martin Dempsey, said that the army of the Islamic State is fighting because of “grievances.”

[…]

Dempsey did not specifically lay out the “grievances” motivating the terrorists.

As usual, this brain dead talking point started spreading immediately through right wing blogs (that’s Halper’s intent, of course). Two examples:

PJ Media’s Bryan Preston blurted:

During today’s often-interrupted Senate hearing on the rise and threat of the Islamic State, Gen. Martin Dempsey testified that ISIS’ fighters have taken up the fight over “grievances.”

Use of that word would seem to justify their actions, or at least give them some moral cover for them.

And from there, we get to… yes… the Dumbest Man on the Internet, Jim Hoft.

Despite all of the not so subtle clues, the Obama administration still insists ISIS is fighting because of perceived political grievances, not because of radical Islamic beliefs.

OK, folks. Let’s go back and actually read what Gen. Dempsey said to kick off this mindless outrage-fest, shall we? Here’s the relevant section:

encourage an inclusive government to address the grievances that have caused this in the first place

It’s incredibly clear, if you aren’t a member of the Wingnut Parrots’ Unison Chorus, that Gen. Dempsey was talking about Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki when he said “encourage an inclusive government,” because Maliki has done anything but that. Maliki has built a divisive sectarian government notorious for excluding Sunni Muslims from the decision process, and favoring Shiites in all aspects of the government. This is no secret — it’s been extensively discussed. For one example out of many: Why We Stuck With Maliki — and Lost Iraq.

As a result, many Sunni Muslims in Iraq have felt they had no choice but to support ISIS, because the alternative for them was worse.

When Gen. Dempsey used the word “grievances” in the context of creating an inclusive government in Iraq, this is clearly what he was referring to: the grievances of the Sunni Muslim minority, not the “grievances” of ISIS.

But these moronic wingnut parrots are taking this to mean Dempsey was expressing some kind of sympathy for ISIS, instead of talking very reasonably about how to prevent groups like ISIS from gaining power in a future Iraqi government.

This has been your fake outrage alert of the day. Please be advised that all right wing talking points should be assumed to be fake until proven otherwise (which almost never happens).

UPDATE at 9/16/14 1:21:01 pm by Charles Johnson

For the record, here’s the full testimony from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Dempsey, making it crystal clear that both Hagel and Dempsey were talking about the Sunni minority’s grievances with the Maliki government:

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From Hagel’s statement:

The effort to rid Iraq of ISIS cannot be successful without the support of all elements of Iraqi society, including not only Shiites, Kurds and religious minorities, but also the Sunni tribes who strongly oppose the Maliki government. The more the new government in Baghdad does to address the grievances of Iraq’s Sunni communities, the more successful they will be in helping rid their country and the world of the ISIS poison.

Dempsey starts speaking at about 19:27 into the video.

The distorted talking point started by Daniel Halper was clearly deliberate and malicious; he didn’t misinterpret Dempsey’s remarks, he misreported them, on purpose.

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458 comments
1 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 12:57:35pm

World, how the fuck does it work?

2 Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2014 12:59:33pm
It’s incredibly clear, if you aren’t a member of the Wingnut Parrots’ Unison Chorus, that Gen. Dempsey is taking about Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki when he says “encourage an inclusive government,” because Maliki has done anything but that. Maliki has built a divisive sectarian government notorious for excluding Sunni Muslims from the decision process, and favoring Shiites in all aspects of the government. This is no secret — it’s been extensively discussed. For one example out of many: Why We Stuck With Maliki — and Lost Iraq.

How dare the Sunnis support people who are protecting them from Maliki’s Shia death squads?!?!!?!?!?!

3 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 12:59:45pm

The only group with a legitimate basis for grievances, of course, is America’s RWNJ circus, whose members can’t freely impose their religious views on their fellow countrymen practice their religion, can’t get movies made in Hollywood because teh Juice and are having their gunz taken away from them while millions of blah peoples are allowed to vote.

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4 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 1:00:44pm

So I’m confused here. They’re mad at Dempsey but nary a word for Tony Perkins who actually wishes there was a Christian ISIL. Yeah that makes total sense.

5 blueraven  Sep 16, 2014 1:04:21pm

Hell, they still can’t accept that the Civil War was about slavery. What do you expect?

6 Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2014 1:04:29pm

OT

NASA announcement in progress.

7 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:05:53pm

re: #6 Single-handed sailor

Wazzat about?

8 nines09  Sep 16, 2014 1:06:20pm

Reality does not enter into any thought process or statement. They talk to hear themselves. They give ignorance a whole new meaning.

9 Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2014 1:07:16pm

re: #7 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wazzat about?

Contracts to launch people to space.

10 Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 16, 2014 1:09:31pm

re: #5 blueraven

Hell, they still can’t accept won’t admit that the Civil War was about slavery. What do you expect?

FTFY

11 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 1:10:01pm

How dare the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs considers actually addressing the underlying problems leading up to the situation rather than just screaming “KILL EM ALL!” while carpet bombing a whole region!

12 klys  Sep 16, 2014 1:10:20pm

I hope our new cop-loving hatchling will choose to say hello at some point.

13 darthstar  Sep 16, 2014 1:11:07pm

Obama addressing Ebola concerns right now. Number of cases in Africa have doubled in the last two weeks and could double again in the next three weeks and again in the next three weeks after that.

Keep in mind that every transmission from person to person represents millions, if not billions, of generations of virus replicating itself in its host. How many generations of mutations need to occur before it becomes an airborne virus? Let’s not find out.

14 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 1:11:42pm

And for the record, here’s the full testimony from Chuck Hagel and Gen. Dempsey, making it incredibly clear that Dempsey was talking about the Sunni minority’s grievances with the Maliki government:

Video

Dempsey starts speaking at about 19:27 into the video.

This distorted talking point started by Daniel Halper was clearly deliberate and malicious; he didn’t misinterpret Dempsey’s remarks, he misreported them, on purpose.

15 A Mom Anon  Sep 16, 2014 1:12:11pm

Also too, in addition to this, the wingnuts I know and (barely, sadly) love are losing their collective shiznit over Obama sending troops into Africa to help with the Ebola crisis. Because 1) It’s not the military’s job to do that, ever, and 2) Obama wants to bring Ebola back here so it can spread and cause widespread death and panic. Because, reasons. I guess. Sigh.

16 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 1:12:59pm

re: #9 Single-handed sailor

Contracts to launch people to space.

bang, zoom, to the moon alice

17 freetoken  Sep 16, 2014 1:14:52pm

OT, but it’s now 99F at the Lindbergh field, which is very hot for being next to the ocean.

And there’s thunder coming up from the south, but alas, I doubt there will be rain.

18 lawhawk  Sep 16, 2014 1:14:56pm

Right wingers will claim outrageous outrage to 11ty over a purposefully misinterpreted passage by the Chairman of the JCS, but will absolutely ignore real dangers like Perkins wanting the US to be more like ISIL or that the situation in the Arctic is a whole lot worse than the naysayers would have you believe.

Same thing with Ebola. They’ll warn that terror babies or ISIL thugs will cross the border in OBL or ninja masks like O’Keefe with Ebola, but then wont provide necessary funding to expand help to the affected areas in Africa.

And the situation in Africa is dire, and getting worse. Sending in military forces to help with logistics and setting up isolation wards is the tip of the iceberg; there’s a lot of mistrust in the region of all medical assistance (and what few native doctors and medical experts has been ravaged by the disease already - hundreds of doctors and nurses have been infected and have died in caring for the thousands of others who are suspected/confirmed of Ebola). There are some worst case scenario models that predict tens of thousands of cases before it winds down. Yeah, it could get real bad.

That’s a real public health catastrophe.

That the JCS identifies that the Maliki government caused even more of a rift between Sunni and Shia in Iraq and that allowed ISIL to exploit the situation isn’t groundbreaking. Calling on the new PM to try and resolve those grievances by Sunnis in Iraq by making it a more inclusive government likewise isn’t groundbreaking.

What is groundbreaking: the right wingers who think that grievances applies to ISIL.

19 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:15:26pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

If one will say that workers and peasants had legitimate grievances in Tsarist Russia, one obviously supports the Bolsheviks!

20 Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2014 1:16:02pm

re: #17 freetoken

OT, but it’s now 99F at the Lindbergh field, which is very hot for being next to the ocean.

And there’s thunder coming up from the south, but alas, I doubt there will be rain.

Great, more fires. :-(

21 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 1:17:43pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

Also too, in addition to this, the wingnuts I know and (barely, sadly) love are losing their collective shiznit over Obama sending troops into Africa to help with the Ebola crisis. Because 1) It’s not the military’s job to do that, ever, and 2) Obama wants to bring Ebola back here so it can spread and cause widespread death and panic. Because, reasons. I guess. Sigh.

Yeah I’m seeing that on Teh Twitters. It’s like these freaking maniacs WANT an ebola epidemic to happen so they can scream OBAMA DIDDIT!!!!!!!1

22 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:17:50pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

To the good General Dempsey I’d like to thank him for his career of service, the wisdom he offered today, and at the same time express my true appreciation for the level of disservice provided by the usual suspects.

They forget the world is not about them.

23 freetoken  Sep 16, 2014 1:20:34pm

re: #5 blueraven

There’s such a lasting effect from the old South in this country and I do agree that a non-trivial portion of this right-wing outrage machine is about compensating for being the “South”.

However, warmongers come from all over and I think there are some Americans who just need to hate Muslims. There’s a lot of “stuff” from centuries past still hanging around.

24 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:20:46pm

Oh. There will be Dead Snow 2. Nifty.

25 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 1:21:05pm

Another wingnut Outrage Du Jour is that the new Miss America used to work at Planned Parenthood.

STONE HER!!!! STONE TEH ABORSHUN SLUT!!!!!!!

26 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 1:22:13pm

Its 106 outside and we just got a brief rainstorm with some thunder

27 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 1:23:23pm

re: #26 Kragar

Its 106 outside and we just got a brief rainstorm with some thunder

All our heats migrated to where you are.

28 freetoken  Sep 16, 2014 1:23:26pm

re: #26 Kragar

Its 106 outside and we just got a brief rainstorm with some thunder

There’s a rapidly growing storm moving east to west:

radar.weather.gov

We’re getting the monsoonal flow and leftovers from a tropical storm:

ssd.noaa.gov

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 1:24:34pm

re: #26 Kragar

Its 106 outside and we just got a brief rainstorm with some thunder

It’s 73 F here and it rained early this morning. Been partly cloudy most of the day.

30 Lidane  Sep 16, 2014 1:25:37pm

Didn’t anyone ever tell Fox News not to cross the streams? WTF.

Fox’s Elisabeth Hasselbeck Draws Parallel Between NFL and Benghazi

31 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 1:25:42pm
32 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:26:49pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

No pie for you! Come back one year!

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 1:27:46pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

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Pie are square.

34 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 1:27:49pm

Yesterday the forecast for Thursday said ‘100% chance of rain’. I had never seen that before. Today they knocked it down to 90%.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 1:28:13pm

re: #32 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No pie for you! Come back one year!

I’m awaiting for her to work out a recipe for a pastry desk that has a little baked pool to hold brandy so that it can be served while flaming. You tip it over to put out the fire before eating it.

36 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 1:28:48pm

re: #26 Kragar

Its 106 outside and we just got a brief rainstorm with some thunder

re: #28 freetoken

There’s a rapidly growing storm moving east to west:

radar.weather.gov

HALP!

MEDIC

We’re getting the monsoonal flow and leftovers from a tropical storm:

ssd.noaa.gov

37 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 1:29:21pm

93 degrees in LA. And very humid.

38 Interesting Times  Sep 16, 2014 1:31:09pm

re: #12 klys

I hope our new cop-loving hatchling will choose to say hello at some point.

Are you referring to this deep thinker here?

He’s seen her picture show before, and she heaped all kinds of Hollywood bigshot BS on him in a pretty pathetic crackhead shriek.

Ah yes, because what better way to prove you aren’t racist than referring to a black woman as a “crackhead”?

39 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 1:31:30pm

Dempsey did not specifically lay out the “grievances” motivating the terrorists

it’s always helpful for journalists to be ignorant about the recent history of the subjects they’re opining on

40 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 1:32:30pm

I swear, conservatives must be the most deliberately ignorant motherfuckers imaginable. Everybody knows what Dempsey was actually saying, and that it’s true, but it’s a lot more fun to pretend he was legitimizing ISIS somehow.

41 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 1:32:54pm
42 darthstar  Sep 16, 2014 1:33:20pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

93 degrees in LA. And very humid.

76 in San Francisco - it’s fucking miserable. Should be 56.

43 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 1:33:30pm

Yay! C-SPAN now allows embedding their videos. Finally.

44 freetoken  Sep 16, 2014 1:33:59pm

Well, that was weird.

It’s been sunny and hot all morning, then 10 minutes ago the clouds all puffed up, thunder, then howling winds. Really did hear howling. Very weird. Gusts up to 40mph or so.

Dust blowing around, not a drop of rain.

Very desert-like weather.

Then at least a 10F drop, which one usually gets with rain, but we didn’t get rain.

45 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:36:30pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Down here on Hill street there are quite a few shops that are burning out waxes in 1100F kilns and casting with torches or electric furnaces right now. 1800F metals. I just finished at one and you learn to use the cool room when you can. That and a cold pak on the neck.

46 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 1:37:50pm

the way forward seems to me to run clearly through a coalition of Arab and Muslim partners

if republicans want to run during the midterms on sending in u.s. ground troops, they should just come out and say it

47 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 1:38:08pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I swear, conservatives must be the most deliberately ignorant motherfuckers imaginable. Everybody knows what Dempsey was actually saying, and that it’s true, but it’s a lot more fun to pretend he was legitimizing ISIS somehow.

It’s like when I’m taking the Express home, I see that the powerball lotto is up to 170 million dollars. I spend an enjoyable 10 minutes imagining how my life would be changed. Not for one moment do I actually believe I’ve WON the lottery.

The so-called “Right Wing Press” has turned it into an art form. Take 2-3 words, spin and twist them, create a new narrative validated by the fact that it agrees with the other narratives they created and now you have the new truths they all agree on.

The difference between me and them? I don’t go down to the local Bentley dealer (and yes… Nashville has one) and pick out a new car to drive home.

I have an ex-coworker on FB I’m close to defriending, she lives on this kind of stuff.

RBS

48 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 1:38:20pm
49 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 1:38:26pm

50 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 1:41:17pm

re:
#45

The war will pay for itself….

We will be greeted as liberators….

It will be a cakewalk….

51 Bulworth  Sep 16, 2014 1:42:03pm

re:
#41

“Yes, but ‘grievances’!!!1”

52 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 16, 2014 1:42:04pm

He was speaking in nuances. RWNJ’s don’t do nuance, only talking (or rather shouting) points

53 Randall Gross  Sep 16, 2014 1:43:48pm

The thing terror groups are expert at is picking at existing sores and scabs to gain adherents. That’s why you will see AQAM in Pakistan working to exacerbate every sectarian rift (from Rural Parchinar temple wars, to urban Karachi religio-political rifts) and every tribal nationalist front (e.g. the Baluchi separatist movements, the Kashmiri groups, etc. ) It’s a tried and true formula, so whether confronting dictatorship, (Asaad) or sectarian rifts (sunni / Shia) ISIS is also working to subsume local and regional causes to their own evil ends.

54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 1:44:57pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

yeah this heat has sucked big time. And my house has no A/C :(

55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 1:49:26pm

Meanwhile the Ukrainian Rada has voted for the lustration law. Interesting.

56 Lidane  Sep 16, 2014 1:50:08pm

Something in this office is setting off my allergies something fierce. Ugh.

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 1:51:03pm

The hatchling downstairs is now posting.
He sounds very familiar…

58 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 1:51:21pm

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He was speaking in nuances. RWNJ’s don’t do nuance, only talking (or rather shouting) points

Ever notice how important the use of particular words is the them? For example, after Banghazi, it was REALLY IMPORTANT that Obama use the words ‘Terrorist Act’ to describe it. So important that ‘Act of Terror’ wasn’t good enough. Last week, it was whether Kerry had said “we’re at war with ISIS”.

This is one symptom of having a black-and-white view of the world. To them, ISIS is EEEEEEVIILLLLL!!! and thus anything associated with ISIS is EEEEEEVIILLLLL!!!, so they can’t comprehend that Sunni leaders, feeling shut out by Maliki’s government, might support ISIS, but would happily stab ISIS in the back given even a gentle nudge. No, we have to ERADICATE ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH ISIS FROM THE EARTH!!!!

Thank FSM Cranky McAngry isn’t President.

59 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 1:51:46pm

Want.

Reductionism as a celebration of photographic art. A moment, captured by four essential functions: shutter speed, aperture, focusing and ISO sensitivity. The Leica M Edition 60 reflects radical concentration on the basic essentials required for photography. In the place of a monitor screen, you find only an ISO setting dial. All exposures are saved exclusively as RAW data in DNG format. Working with the Leica M Edition 60 demands the same care and attention as when working with analogue models. The sensor and electronics represent the pinnacle of contemporary, cutting edge technology. It allows the photographer to indulge in complete concentration on the subject or scene and savour the instant of capturing a special moment. Without the distraction of superfluous technical features. This is what makes the art of photography so immortal.

Only 600 will be made, so I’ll never ever have one, and couldn’t afford one anyway probably, but damn do I love the nod to anachronism.

60 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 1:55:48pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

couldn’t afford one anyway probably

Yep, MSRP is $19,500. Goddamned German Elves.

61 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 1:57:38pm

jeebus, hatchling is gonna wear out that downding button.

62 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 1:58:53pm

Fareed Zakaria is still engaged in wholesale plagiarism, now while working for CNN it would seem…

53 second video is one example of the 26 at the article:
Youtube Video

Fareed Zakaria Never Stopped Plagiarizing: How Dozens Of Episodes Of His CNN Show Ripped Others Off

63 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 16, 2014 2:00:14pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I swear, conservatives must be the most deliberately ignorant motherfuckers imaginable. Everybody knows what Dempsey was actually saying, and that it’s true, but it’s a lot more fun to pretend he was legitimizing ISIS somehow.

Fred Clark, “The need to believe in awful things,” talking about the Satan Panic:

None of any of that was true, but Warnke’s audience believed it. They enjoyed believing it. For whatever reason, they wanted and needed to believe it.

Let’s put this more bluntly: Hundreds of thousands of good Christian people believed these stories because they preferred a world that included Satanic ritual abuse and human sacrifice to a world without such monstrosities. Given a choice between a world full of monsters and the real world, they chose the monsters.

I’m not as nice as Fred, so what I’d add is that they want monsters because anything can be excused when fighting monsters. They’re setting up their alibi.

64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:08:35pm

re: #63 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not as nice as Fred, so what I’d add is that they want monsters because anything can be excused when fighting monsters. They’re setting up their alibi.

That and they need monsters in order to control people through fear. For example during the 04 election Cheney made comments to the effect that if Kerry was elected (or democrats for that matter) we’d be hit by another terrorist attack.

I often think that when the soviet union fell and communism was in retreat the right was kind of scattered because they didn’t have some great existential bogeyman to go after, sure they went after liberals and gays etc but they didn’t have some big external monster. Then along came 9/11.

65 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 2:10:30pm
66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:10:52pm

oh look:

South Carolina Sheriffs deputy caught on video repeatedly tasing a man…who was already handcuffed

He was black though so I am sure he deserved it /snark

67 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:11:17pm

From the the fire discussed yesterday:

68 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:14:45pm

re: #66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

SC FTW…

69 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:15:38pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

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I think he is planning to take over the world.

70 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 2:15:54pm

re: #66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

oh look:

South Carolina Sheriffs deputy caught on video repeatedly tasing a man…who was already handcuffed

He was black though so I am sure he deserved it /snark

Huge sigh.

71 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 2:17:29pm

re: #69 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think he is planning to take over the world.

Does he have GRIEVANCES?!?!?

72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:17:44pm

Any good thrillers or horror films you can recommend from the years ‘13-‘14?

73 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:18:01pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Does he have GRIEVANCES?!?!?

He causes them.

74 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 2:18:50pm

You have to a brain dead moron to interpret that any other way. But, it is the DMOTI. Soooo……

75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:19:07pm
76 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:19:13pm

re: #74 Jenner7

You have to a brain dead moron to interpret that any other way. But, it is the DMOTI. Soooo……

Don’t insult braindead morons…

77 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 2:19:29pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I swear, conservatives must be the most deliberately ignorant motherfuckers imaginable. Everybody knows what Dempsey was actually saying, and that it’s true, but it’s a lot more fun to pretend he was legitimizing ISIS somehow.

They have no choice. The US electorate is not yet enstupidated enough to vote for the real GOP platform of restoring the Confederacy and Gilded Age simultaneously.

78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:20:50pm
79 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 2:21:19pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

They have no choice. The US electorate is not yet enstupidated enough to vote for the real GOP platform of restoring the Confederacy and Gilded Age simultaneously.

I am enstupidated enough to think that’s a word, or should be.

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 2:21:23pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

They have no choice. The US electorate is not yet enstupidated enough to vote for the real GOP platform of restoring the Confederacy and Gilded Age simultaneously.

Would the flag of the Gilded Confederacy be a blue and gold St Andrews cross with multiple gold dollar signs against a red field?
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81 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 2:21:36pm
82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:21:48pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I remember a time not too long ago where it was damn near heresy to speak out against the generals…

83 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 2:22:03pm

Evening Lizardim from the cool and sunny wild north country. Cool and sunny it may be, but a storm is brewing - Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton and Senator Al Franken have both come out publicly saying that Adrian Peterson should remain suspended for his alleged conduct, and two sides are drawing up in a bitter battle over the embattled running back. In more personal news, the Mrs. Fish and I are sorting through our vast library of books as part of a project to clean out the garage, and I found a lost treasure - a copy of one of none other than Robert Spencer’s books. I promptly threw it away, lest it contaminate my household with its filthy presence. How go things among the lizardfolk on this beautiful fall afternoon?

84 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:22:30pm

re: #75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The kid’s dad is a cop with the Kansas City Police Department

Ah. Of course.

85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:23:20pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

I am enstupidated enough to think that’s a word, or should be.

It’s a perfectly cromulent word.

86 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 2:23:45pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

I am enstupidated enough to think that’s a word, or should be.

‘enstupidate’ and ‘derp’ are clearly essential words for describing present-day US politics. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long for the dictionary makers to catch up to reality.

87 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 2:25:04pm

re: #84 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Ah. Of course.

yeah. It’s only a problem when the kid is related to someone in some position of power I guess.

89 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 2:28:54pm

re: #72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Any good thrillers or horror films you can recommend from the years ‘13-‘14?

dr jekyll & mr hyde 1913

90 Frenchy  Sep 16, 2014 2:29:15pm

To right wingers, the notion that anything that happens in the Middle East might happen for a reason other than “Islam is a religion of ebil and hate!!1!” is always tantamount to terrorist appeasement.

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:29:39pm

re: #89 dog philosopher

dr jekyll & mr hyde 1913

I meant 13 CE (aka AD)/

92 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 2:31:33pm

re: #91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I meant 13 CE (aka AD)/

I dont think any films from ancient Rome survived the fall of the Empire

93 Frenchy  Sep 16, 2014 2:31:54pm

I’m mostly glad we’ll get 8 years of HRC as President, but it’s really going to suck when the GOP is STILL talking about Benghazi in, like, 2023.

94 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:34:36pm

I have never seen an aurora but I desperately want to. In the meantime I have a really nice live wallpaper mimicking them as my phone background. That sort of counts, right?

95 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:34:38pm

re: #92 Kragar

I dont think any films from ancient Rome survived the fall of the Empire

I’m sure they found some Dead Sea Rolls at Qumran.

96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:35:54pm

re: #93 Frenchy

I’m mostly glad we’ll get 8 years of HRC as President, but it’s really going to suck when the GOP is STILL talking about Benghazi in, like, 2023.

Don’t worry, something will happen and they’ll blab about that.

On second thought… worry.

97 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 2:36:24pm

re: #95 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’m sure they found some Dead Sea Rolls at Qumran.

Turns out they were cheap betamax knock offs created in the 12th century

98 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:37:37pm

re: #97 Kragar

Turns out they were cheap betamax knock offs created in the 12th century

Yeah, the one with Josephus’ documentary had some fake frames interpolated.

99 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 2:38:05pm

I don’t know if this is the first “important” decision handed down since the Supreme Court decided the Hobby Lobby case, but if this is how judges are going to interpret the ruling, we the people are screwed.

Federal Judge David Sam ruled that a member of the FLDS didn’t have to answer questions in a deposition about child labor because…Hobby Lobby. Presumably the FLDS man’s company is closely held. (We already know that the FLDS have no problem with child labor, even if against the law.)

Vergel Steed refused to answer even the most basic questions in a recent deposition, because he is protected under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

“It is clear that Mr. Steed has raised the very defenses available under RFRA,” U.S. District Court Judge David Sam wrote in the order.

fox13now.com

Lots more at the link, but this is a terrible precedent.

100 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 2:38:23pm

You want one single item of proof that America is a Christian nation and
not a Jewish nation and not an Islamic nation? One single bit of proof
is all you need: we freely allow restaurants and grocery stores to sell
and to serve bacon. That can only happen in a Christian country. So the
sheer fact that we freely allow the sale and consumption of bacon is
absolute proof that we are, in fact, a Christian nation.” - American
Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer, speaking on his radio show.

you can also get birth control pills, yarmulkas, and S&M equipment

what does that mean?

101 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 2:39:50pm

It’s #NatLabDay! I had no idea.

102 Kragar  Sep 16, 2014 2:40:14pm

re: #98 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yeah, the one with Josephus’ documentary had some fake frames interpolated.

“I’m not saying its was Lucifer…. but it was Lucifer.”

103 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:42:36pm

re: #99 dholmes32

I don’t know if this is the first “important” decision handed down since the Supreme Court decided the Hobby Lobby case, but if this is how judges are going to interpret the ruling, we the people are screwed.

Federal Judge David Sam ruled that a member of the FLDS didn’t have to answer questions in a deposition about child labor because…Hobby Lobby. Presumably the FLDS man’s company is closely held. (We already know that the FLDS have no problem with child labor, even if against the law.)

fox13now.com

Lots more at the link, but this is a terrible precedent.

Oh wait, we didn’t mean for that to apply there, only when it came to slutty-sluts and their wanting to have sex. Our bad.

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104 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 2:43:26pm

re: #99 dholmes32

I don’t know if this is the first “important” decision handed down since the Supreme Court decided the Hobby Lobby case, but if this is how judges are going to interpret the ruling, we the people are screwed.

Federal Judge David Sam ruled that a member of the FLDS didn’t have to answer questions in a deposition about child labor because…Hobby Lobby. Presumably the FLDS man’s company is closely held. (We already know that the FLDS have no problem with child labor, even if against the law.)

fox13now.com

Lots more at the link, but this is a terrible precedent.

The good that could come out of this would be the Hobby Lobby decision gets overturned. If that doesn’t happen, we the people are screwed, but young FLDS women and girls, all the more so. Actually, all children in the US will be more vulnerable.

105 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 2:43:57pm

I saw a couple of cops today at my local lunch place. Young dudes, they were under-covers all tactical-ed up for something, so wearing jeans with a tac vest, web belt and low slung kydex holster with velcro leg straps.

The thing that got me was one of them kept touching his gun, all the goddamned time. It was clear that he was trying to adjust everything just right. He kept grabbing the handle of his gun, using it to pull up on the holster rig, then checking his belt, his crotch, vest, then back again. Wash, rinse, repeat at least a dozen times while he and his partner stood at the counter talking to the restaurant owner and paying the bill. Every few seconds his hand was back on his gun, sometimes just resting it there, which was kind of unsettling. I thought they taught them better than that.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 2:44:10pm

Speaking of children:

107 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 2:44:25pm

re: #66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

oh look:

South Carolina Sheriffs deputy caught on video repeatedly tasing a man…who was already handcuffed

He was black though so I am sure he deserved it /snark

Bull Connor would be proud of those fucks.

108 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 2:45:27pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of children:

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I’m sure there’s a wingnut nutcase out there who thinks that is somehow bad.

109 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 16, 2014 2:45:49pm

OK, I haven’t read the whole thread yet, but WTF does Jim Fucking Hoft have to add to the myriad experts who are gazing upon this problem? (that’s a rhetorical question) SMH

110 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 2:45:58pm

re: #100 dog philosopher

You want one single item of proof that America is a Christian nation and
not a Jewish nation and not an Islamic nation? One single bit of proof
is all you need: we freely allow restaurants and grocery stores to sell
and to serve bacon. That can only happen in a Christian country. So the
sheer fact that we freely allow the sale and consumption of bacon is
absolute proof that we are, in fact, a Christian nation.” - American
Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer, speaking on his radio show.

you can also get birth control pills, yarmulkas, and S&M equipment

what does that mean?

It does make you wonder just how many of his followers heard that and said, “Yeah, that makes sense!”

111 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:46:14pm

re: #102 Kragar

“I’m not saying its was Lucifer…. but it was Lucifer.”

Honey, I Slept With Our Daughters, Stoned, King Solomon’s Big Bang Theory and other wholesome family comedies.

112 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:47:10pm

I am recovering from houseguests for the past week, which involved walking the tightrope of being an introvert with an extrovert mother-in-law who takes offense if I somehow indicate that I need recharge time. I really wonder how my husband is related to her sometimes.

I cleaned my desk today. Here’s the very little bit of progress that I made on the big piece while they were in town.

113 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 2:47:35pm

Roosevelts documentary is good. Good job by Burns of choosing this as his latest documentary piece too because many Americans don’t appreciate why we have “progressivism” and take for granted the world before TR and FDR.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 2:49:28pm

This is really huge news in Kentucky:

115 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 2:49:36pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Of course this is bad. People who grow up in poverty are the most motivated workers. Even if they can’t enter the workforce, their marginalization, incarceration and/or execution furnishes the rest of society with much-needed object lessons on the evils inherent in being poor.

Gah. I feel a need to take a shower after typing that out, even in wingnut font.

116 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 2:50:05pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is really huge news in Kentucky:

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Good. Two of my great grandfathers died of black lung. It’s a terrible disease.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 2:51:31pm
118 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 2:51:33pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I love listening to Peter Coyote narrate. So far I’ve identified John Lithgow and Paul Giamatti.

119 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:52:47pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does the picture provide correct info?

120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 2:54:04pm

re: #119 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Does the picture provide correct info?

Apparently so:

littlegreenfootballs.com

121 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:54:42pm

re: #119 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Does the picture provide correct info?

Here’s a transcript. I don’t feel like watching the actual appearance, but you can if you’d like.

122 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 2:55:25pm

re: #99 dholmes32

Repeal the RFRA. Simple enough answer, really. From Wikipedia it looks like one of the original motives for this law was to help prevent incursion onto native American sacred land. That’s a reasonable enough goal, but the RFRA remedy goes too far.

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 2:57:39pm

re: #120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Apparently so:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks, I missed seeing that page when it was posted.

124 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 2:57:49pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Truly a repellant view point, but more honest in a way than many GOP moderates who (falsely) claim they aren’t so extreme and then turn around and enable the fanatics at every opportunity.

125 klys  Sep 16, 2014 2:58:46pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

Truly a repellant view point, but more honest in a way than many GOP moderates who (falsely) claim they aren’t so extreme and then turn around and enable the fanatics at every opportunity.

GO TEAM GO!

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126 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 2:59:15pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

Truly a repellant view point, but more honest in a way than many GOP moderates who (falsely) claim they aren’t so extreme and then turn around and enable the fanatics at every opportunity.

REBRANDING!!11!!!

127 piratedan  Sep 16, 2014 3:00:41pm

so it comes down to the fact that this administration is taking the time to apply context to the problems of the region, working under the assumption that “kill them all and then we’ll take their oil!” isn’t a valid foreign policy. Seems to fall in line with most of the issues on the right, in that if it can’t be summed up to fit it on a bumper sticker, they can’t support it, much less take the time to understand it.

128 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 3:00:47pm

re: #118 Jenner7

I love listening to Peter Coyote narrate. So far I’ve identified John Lithgow and Paul Giamatti.

That’s Meryl Streep as Eleanor.

129 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 3:01:01pm

Dempsey makes sense to me. I read this yesterday and thought it sounded quite sensible/practical as well:

Killing mosquitos rather than draining the swamp

Despite the state terrorism inflicted on Syrians and Egyptians, their respective regimes have remained intact with no apparent consequences for their actions. Due to the disunited approach by the world powers, the brutal violence of the Syrian regime has been allowed to carry on for so long that it has spawned the barbaric “Islamic State” (ISIS) which the world is now planning to target through a coalition backed by the undemocratic regimes of the region. One interesting nuance is that it is not the root of the problem, the undemocratic regimes themselves, that has been chosen as a target but the product of such a regime. It is, after all, these regimes which have caused the people of the Middle East grief and hardship and left the region almost destitute. We all know that the process that led to the formation of ISIS was fuelled by two significant issues: the first was and remains the Syrian regime which has refused defiantly to allow a democratic transition, and killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions of its citizens; the second is the failure of a timely response by the world powers to tackle the atrocities carried out by the Syrian government. This has provided time and space for all sorts of enigmatic groups to emerge in Syria, ISIS among them. […]

This also mirrors what I heard retired U.S. Army colonel Andrew Bacevich say during the last minute and a half of his interview with Rachel Maddow last night (starts around 21:00), when Maddow asks him about Americans’ desire to “do something” in response to ISIS:

I don’t think the question is what to do about ISIS. I mean, if we could magically destroy ISIS tomorrow, we would defeat them tomorrow. The conditions that gave rise to ISIS would still exist. […]

Youtube Video

We keep treating the symptoms, but ignoring the illness. It’s no wonder things keep escalating. What was it that researchok used to say? I believe it was something along the lines of, “Any pathology left untreated will escalate.”

130 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 3:01:38pm

re: #62 ausador

Fareed Zakaria is still engaged in wholesale plagiarism, now while working for CNN it would seem…

53 second video is one example of the 26 at the article:
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I’m wondering if he’s just using Google to find his plagiarism targets or a more specialized service, like Nexis.

131 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 3:02:27pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

“Any pathology left untreated will escalate.”

the pathology: human nature

132 HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2014 3:02:48pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

Dempsey makes sense to me. I read this yesterday and thought it sounded quite sensible/practical as well:

This also mirrors what I heard retired U.S. Army colonel Andrew Bacevich say during the last minute and a half of his interview with Rachel Maddow last night (starts around 21:00), when Maddow asks him about Americans’ desire to “do something” in response to ISIS:

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We keep treating the symptoms, but ignoring the illness. It’s no wonder things keep escalating. What was it that researchok used to say? I believe it was something along the lines of, “Any pathology left untreated will escalate.”

Right, that’s a good point made by Colonel Bacevich.

133 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:03:52pm

Putin’s goons had an 11 hour long search in the Tatar Medzhlis in Crimea today. The fascist fuckers seem intent on continuing Stalin’s policy in “softer” form.

134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:04:43pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

Where’s he btw?

135 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:04:48pm
136 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 16, 2014 3:06:36pm

Pretty cool that PBS is streaming the Roosevelt documentary in real time instead of holding it off.

137 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 3:09:33pm

re: #134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Where’s he btw?

I’m not sure. His father passed away last year and the loss made him rethink what he wanted to do with his life. Last time we corresponded he was in the process of making a major career change (wanted to start doing non-profit work that would help others). I don’t know if he ever got it off the ground because that was around the same time I had my aneurysm and we lost touch.

I hope he found what he was seeking and is happy & doing well.

138 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 16, 2014 3:10:29pm

re: #136 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Although, one of the first people on screen is George Fucking Will. Ugh.

139 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 3:11:04pm

re: #122 EPR-radar

Repeal the RFRA. Simple enough answer, really. From Wikipedia it looks like one of the original motives for this law was to help prevent incursion onto native American sacred land. That’s a reasonable enough goal, but the RFRA remedy goes too far.

And the chances of that happening before the Earth is gobbled up by the Sun in its red giant phase are nil. I’m of the opinion some case is going to have to come along that kicks the Powers That Be in the cojones before anything serious is done.

Hobby Lobby is the Gobitas case of our generation, but I don’t see an opportunity coming up in the next few years to get that piece of excrement overturned as a serious overreach of religious rights. (Gobitas legitimized forcing children to salute the flag in schools and led to widespread abuse and even a lynching of Jehovah’s Witnesses until it was overturned in 1943 by West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette. Lillian Gobitas just died last month at the age of 90.)

140 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:12:33pm

re: #133 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Putin’s goons had an 11 hour long search in the Tatar Medzhlis in Crimea today. The fascist fuckers seem intent on continuing Stalin’s policy in “softer” form.

In particular they’re going after this hero of the Crimean Tatar people:

At the age of 18, Dzhemilev and several of his activist friends established the Union of Young Crimean Tatars. He thus began the arduous and long struggle for the recognition of the rights of Crimean Tatars to return to their homeland. Between 1966 and 1986, Dzhemilev was arrested six times for anti-Soviet activities and served time in Soviet prisons and labor camps, or lived under surveillance.[4] Dzhemilev is also remembered for going on the longest hunger strike in the history of human rights movements. The hunger strike lasted for 303 days, but he survived due to forced feeding.

More about him: ISLAMIC JUSTICE THROUGH NONVIOLENCE: MUSTAFA DZHEMILEV AND THE NATIONAL MOVEMENT OF CRIMEAN TATARS

141 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:14:07pm

re: #98 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yeah, the one with Josephus’ documentary had some fake frames interpolated.

Gamla Gone Wild was good.

142 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 3:14:43pm

re: #138 Rev_Arthur_Belling

George Fucking Will

i think he would have to have the starch steamed outta him first

144 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:16:23pm

Speaking of freaks, ya’ll need to get a haircut.

145 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:17:11pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of freaks, ya’ll need to get a haircut.

146 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:17:58pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of freaks, ya’ll need to get a haircut.

Nope, I’m high and tight, just visited the Korean barber off Ft Rucker. He’s been trimming me for 30 years.

147 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:18:28pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

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Mel, somebody.

148 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 3:18:41pm

Iowa prolifers not happy.

Iowa Supreme Court allows telemed-abortion system to continue

The Iowa Supreme Court today decided to let Planned Parenthood of the Heartland continue using its controversial video-conferencing method for dispensing abortion pills - for the time being.

149 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:18:41pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Bull Connor would be proud of those fucks.

Yeah, check this out. Pretty damn brazen HT PINAC
ACLU Files Fifth Lawsuit Against Philadelphia Police For Abusing Police Observers

ACLU direct-

Photos of the incident are available at: www.aclupa.org/geraci

This is the fifth in a series of ACLU-PA lawsuits aimed at stopping the Philadelphia Police Department’s illegal practice of retaliating against individuals who observe or record the police performing their duties.

“We have yet to see any indication that the leadership of the Philadelphia Police Department is requiring its officers to respect the First Amendment rights of Philadelphia residents in these situations,” said Reggie Shuford, executive director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania. “Until they get it right, we will continue to hold them accountable to the citizens they have sworn an oath to protect.”

Today’s lawsuit was filed on behalf of Amanda Geraci, a professional psychotherapist and a trained legal observer who was monitoring an anti-fracking protest outside the Pennsylvania Convention Center on September 21, 2012. Legal observers are trained volunteers who monitor the interactions between police and protestors.

150 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 3:18:59pm

re: #139 dholmes32

And the chances of that happening before the Earth is gobbled up by the Sun in its red giant phase are nil. I’m of the opinion some case is going to have to come along that kicks the Powers That Be in the cojones before anything serious is done.

Hobby Lobby is the Gobitis case of our generation, but I don’t see an opportunity coming up in the next few years to get that piece of excrement overturned as a serious overreach of religious rights. (Gobitis legitimized forcing children to salute the flag in schools and led to widespread abuse and even a lynching of Jehovah’s Witnesses until it was overturned in 1943 by West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette. Lillian Gobitis just died last month at the age of 90.)

As I understand it, Hobby Lobby didn’t even reach the constitution. The RFRA is a self-limiting of the Federal government’s own power and applies to any subsequent Federal law unless specifically exempted. Unfortunately, the ACA has no such exception.

If all this is true, then it would seem (although IANAL) there would be no basis to overturn Hobby Lobby on constitutional grounds. The argument would have to be that SCOTUS is interpreting the RFRA incorrectly, which would be an uphill battle.

The moral of the story is that the original passage of the RFRA (by overwhelming majorities in Congress) was a serious mistake. I’m sure the Clinton era RWNJs that supported the RFRA viewed it as a vehicle to use to reinforce RWNJ Christian privileges.

151 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:20:12pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

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I get it! ;>)

152 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 3:20:37pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

The Woad Warrior?

153 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:20:46pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah, check this out. Pretty damn brazen HT PINAC
ACLU Files Fifth Lawsuit Against Philadelphia Police For Abusing Police Observers

ACLU direct-

It’s Philadelphia. At least they didn’t call in an airstrike like Rizzo.

154 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 3:21:20pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, who has the desks and lighter fluid?

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Pretty. Blonde. Dumb as a stump.

Typical Fox empty talking head.

155 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 16, 2014 3:21:24pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of freaks, ya’ll need to get a haircut.

I would like to get a straight-razor shave in this town, but none of the barbers do that :(

156 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:21:52pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

The Woad Warrior?

That’s very good.

157 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:22:29pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

Gamla Gone Wild was good.

So was The Devil in Yohanan.

158 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 3:23:50pm

re: #75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

(Thought I saw a reference downstream.) Sunday afternoon it started with a neighbor recording the last part of the kid’s arrest on her cellphone. Seems she knew he was a friend of her next door neighbor. Might not have made the local news but she said she could hear him telling the cop he couldn’t roll the window down it was broken. Kid may be white but it is appalling to hear what she (and the friend next door) heard and saw. Kid was in convulsions on the ground with blood coming out of his mouth and the cop was grinding his foot on him like his was putting out a cigarette. Link There are several videos on the link the woman’s cell vid is at the end.

The spokesman for the Independence PD must be related to the Ferguson Police Chief, arrogant SOB blithering that it’s within PD regulation to StunGun a 17yr old who is resisting. And the windows in the car were dark and there was a warrant out for a woman who was the owner of the car. Cop probably thought the kid was white trash he could get away with being an ass with.

The kid was using his phone to record the cop, had a heart attack when the cop reached in the car and used the StunGun and the cop was a bit slow to call for an ambulance. He’s been in an induced coma since Sunday. And I’m sure the FBI jumped in quickly because his daddy is a cop and they are white. Link This is a PD who has pulled a pregnant black woman out of a car in front of her small children and pushed her face down on the side of the interstate because they thought she had been reported as shoplifting at a mall.

Tonite’s news is all over how Stun Guns can help cops but can kill.

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 3:24:02pm
160 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:24:34pm

re: #157 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So was The Devil in Yohanan.

Liked Deborah Does Hadera.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 3:24:49pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

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The Smurfs Are Coming!

THE SMURFS ARE COMING!!11!!!

162 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:26:01pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of freaks, ya’ll need to get a haircut.

Mine is starting to get tucked into my pants when I tuck in my t-shirt. Just when it’s the most annoying, I start receiving compliments on it, mostly from women my age and older who regret their last cut or are sick of dyeing theirs.

When I trim four inches off, all comments cease.

163 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 3:26:40pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

But if they drain the swamp they won’t need a whole lot of shiny new toys to kill mosquitoes with….

164 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:27:11pm

re: #155 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I would like to get a straight-razor shave in this town, but none of the barbers do that :(

165 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 3:28:07pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

That’s what drove me nuts about RWNJs getting the vapors any time “blowback” was mentioned after 9/11.

The critical point these idiots refuse to get is that an explanation is not the same thing as a justification. Any idiot can see that US support of some of the worst regimes in the world is going to create any number of people that want to take the fight to the US as part of their war against their oppressive regimes. Sometimes these people will succeed, and that’s when things like 9/11 happen.

So 9/11 and many other terrorist acts simply are blowback from decades of US meddling in foreign affairs, mostly to prop up oil ticks and other undesirables.

The above are simply facts, and not really open to dispute. What to do about it is where all the tough choices and disputes are.

166 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 3:29:38pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

The Woad Warrior?

Looks kinda wo(d)ebegone.

167 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2014 3:30:24pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

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The Smurfs are being oppressed?

168 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:30:41pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Liked Deborah Does Hadera.

120 Days of Sodom is an all time classic.

169 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:30:55pm

i was an extra when they filmed Last Tango in Bnei Brak.

170 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:31:04pm

re: #167 Feline Fearless Leader

The Smurfs are being oppressed?

They shouldnt be?

171 Skip Intro  Sep 16, 2014 3:32:16pm

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

172 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:33:23pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

Mine is starting to get tucked into my pants when I tuck in my t-shirt. Just when it’s the most annoying, I start receiving compliments on it, mostly from women my age and older who regret their last cut or are sick of dyeing theirs.

When I trim four inches off, all comments cease.

I am occasionally tempted to think about cutting it, but I like having it long. Putting it up in a quasi-bun helps.

I always regret it when I cut it. Shortest it’s been was shoulder length right when I graduated college (donated to Locks of Love).

173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:33:25pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

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Is it her?

174 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:34:11pm

re: #140 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In particular they’re going after this hero of the Crimean Tatar people:

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More about him: ISLAMIC JUSTICE THROUGH NONVIOLENCE: MUSTAFA DZHEMILEV AND THE NATIONAL MOVEMENT OF CRIMEAN TATARS

Thanks for that introduction to Mustafa Dzhemilev. He can be added to the list of people who should live forever, or at least a really really long time.

175 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:35:15pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

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Kristin Scott Thomas’ agent?

176 Frenchy  Sep 16, 2014 3:35:53pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

Good lord.

177 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:36:38pm

re: #172 klys

I am occasionally tempted to think about cutting it, but I like having it long. Putting it up in a quasi-bun helps.

I always regret it when I cut it. Shortest it’s been was shoulder length right when I graduated college (donated to Locks of Love).

I was once harassed about NOT donating my hair. I’M NOT DONE WITH IT. When I’m dead they can have my 4 or 5 braids that I’ve saved. I made ‘em, I’m keeping them as long as I want.

178 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 3:37:10pm

re: #173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Is it her?

Yep. She posted several like that on her face book page to keep the paparazzi from getting a “scoop”. I’ll see if I can find her twee.

179 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:39:26pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

I was once harassed about NOT donating my hair. I’M NOT DONE WITH IT. When I’m dead they can have my 4 or 5 braids that I’ve saved. I made ‘em, I’m keeping them as long as I want.

My problem with doing donations is I have to cut too much off. To donate 10 inches is to go to the length where it’s starting to get hard to pull it into the ponytail. If you do less than 10”, then they’re just selling it for administrative expenses (which is fair, and I have donated less knowing that).

It takes close to two years to grow out to the length it’s at right now. No thank you.

180 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 3:40:24pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

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Yeah. But I wish I didn’t.

181 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 3:40:25pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, who has the desks and lighter fluid?

182 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:40:31pm

I don’t like Sarah, but paparazzis can go to hell.

183 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 3:40:39pm

re: #165 EPR-radar

That’s what drove me nuts about RWNJs getting the vapors any time “blowback” was mentioned after 9/11.

The critical point these idiots refuse to get is that an explanation is not the same thing as a justification. […]

THIS. 1000x this.

184 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:41:58pm

re: #181 ausador

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Shitsticks are rooting for an epidemic, if it can be blamed on Obama.

185 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 3:42:35pm

Apropos of nothing

186 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:43:32pm

re: #182 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I don’t like Sarah, but paparazzis can go to hell.

Paparazzi hell: All the Kardashians are in a hot orgy, and the camera battery dies. Over and over.

187 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:44:24pm

re: #179 klys

Rereading, this is unclear. I have donated hair shorter than the 10” length knowing it would be sold, not reduced the number of donations that I have done.

I confess, my hair is my vanity, to the extent that I pay attention to things relating to my appearance. I can’t comment on the Palin picture, for example, because makeup is something I only wear on special occasions …so who am I to mock someone out in public without it?

188 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 3:45:18pm

re: #181 ausador

So, if Ebola doesn’t get us, ISIS will.

Bummer.

189 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 3:45:54pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

If you like musicals, there’s Bob Tikva in The Road to Petra.

Shitsticks are rooting for an epidemic, if it can be blamed on Obama.

I predict it will be renamed “Obola” by the Right.

190 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2014 3:46:22pm

I’m surprised they haven’t suggested infecting ISIS with ebola.

191 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:47:25pm

re: #188 Jenner7

So, if Ebola doesn’t get us, ISIS will.

Bummer.

If we’re screwed anyway can I stop pretending that getting a job matters?

/half

192 blueraven  Sep 16, 2014 3:47:31pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

Mine is starting to get tucked into my pants when I tuck in my t-shirt. Just when it’s the most annoying, I start receiving compliments on it, mostly from women my age and older who regret their last cut or are sick of dyeing theirs.

When I trim four inches off, all comments cease.

I had mine cut about a year ago. When you have to make sure it is out of the way before sitting on the “throne”, it is time.

It is still pretty long. Grows like a weed, my hair.

193 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 3:47:42pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m surprised they haven’t suggested infecting ISIS with ebola.

No, the converse. Freepers are sure ISIS is infecting its martyrs before they cross the Rio Grande.

194 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 3:47:54pm

re: #179 klys

My hair grows really slow. They shaved my head bald when I was in the hospital in May of last year, and it’s just recently grown back long enough to pull into a ponytail (very tiny one, but at least it stays). Sometimes I’m tempted to shave it all off again because being bald was soooo low maintenance.

195 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 3:47:55pm

re: #188 Jenner7

So, if Ebola doesn’t get us, ISIS will.

Bummer.

ashes to ashes
dust to dust
if the likker dont getcha
the wimmen must

196 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 3:48:22pm

re: #188 Jenner7

So, if Ebola doesn’t get us, ISIS will.

Bummer.

“The city streets are really quite a thrill.
“If the hoods don’t get you the monoxide will!”

197 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 3:48:53pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

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Hockey Mom-Lipstick=Pit Bull

198 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:49:23pm

re: #194 CuriousLurker

My hair grows really slow. They shaved my head bald when I was in the hospital in May of last year, and it’s just recently grown back long enough to pull into a ponytail (very tiny one, but at least it stays). Sometimes I’m tempted to shave it all off again because being bald was soooo low maintenance.

If I wore a hijab or something like that I could see doing that - with the heat the hair has been less tolerable especially at night recently. But, alas, I don’t and I am vain in this.

Plus the husband likes it, and threatens to cut his hair if I cut mine, and I very much like the long hair on gentlemen, thank you very much.

199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 3:49:50pm

re: #188 Jenner7

So, if Ebola doesn’t get us, ISIS will.

Bummer.

soon we’ll be hearing about ISIS agents infected with ebola infiltrating our southern border.

I personally nominate James O’Keefe and Chuck C Johnson to get infected with ebola and then dress as ISIS agents to make a video to prove the case.

200 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 3:50:31pm

re: #199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

soon we’ll be hearing about ISIS agents infected with ebola infiltrating our southern border.

I personally nominate James O’Keefe and Chuck C Johnson to get infected with ebola and then dress as ISIS agents to make a video to prove the case.

Yes, but who’d want any of THEIR bodily fluids?

202 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 3:51:33pm

Dumb twitter question. How do you search your time line for a tweet?

203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 3:51:40pm

“We’ve found ebola-soaked prayer rugs on the border”.

204 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 3:52:59pm

re: #198 klys

If I wore a hijab or something like that I could see doing that - with the heat the hair has been less tolerable especially at night recently. But, alas, I don’t and I am vain in this.

Plus the husband likes it, and threatens to cut his hair if I cut mine, and I very much like the long hair on gentlemen, thank you very much.

Since I was in 5th grade, I have liked the long hair on gentlemen. Mr. w will never cut his no matter what I do. Which is good.

And you have beeeeauuuutiful hair. You should enjoy it however you like as long as you can.

205 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:53:05pm
206 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 3:54:01pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m surprised they haven’t suggested infecting ISIS with ebola.

Saw a tweet earlier suggesting that. It said that once the 3 thousand troops Obama is sending to Africa get infected they should be sent to fight/infect ISIS. :(

207 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:54:40pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Since I was in 5th grade, I have liked the long hair on gentlemen. Mr. w will never cut his no matter what I do. Which is good.

And you have beeeeauuuutiful hair. You should enjoy it however you like as long as you can.

I don’t necessarily believe he would cut it, because I saw photos of the big hair phase he went through to get to this point.

His curls so nicely without any effort and mine pulls the curls out without trying. Sob. I trim it for him about once a year when he gets really grumpy and threatens to do it himself and that’s it.

208 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 3:55:56pm

re: #201 klys

Posted before, but you can see the hair. It is not normally curly, that is 2 hours with a curling iron and a metric ton of hairspray.

Aww…

Years ago I dated a woman who HAD HAD hair downt to the backs of her knees when I first met her. When I was seeing her she’d cut it to about bottom of shoulder blades. I asked about it, and she told me she’d braided it before she cut it off, and kept the braid, and did I want to see it?

I did, but when she handed it too me, for some reason, it was repellant. I have NO IDEA why, but I couldn’t stand touching the thing.

The hair on her head, yes - wonderful stuff.

The braid? Icky.

Again, no idea why.

209 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 3:55:57pm

re: #202 Bubblehead II

Dumb twitter question. How do you search your time line for a tweet?

Twitter’s search function is Teh Suck. That is all.

210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 3:56:05pm

re: #194 CuriousLurker

I had my head shaved completely several years ago, but it was still a lot of maintenance since I didn’t like the peach fuzz look. Growing it back was horribly annoying since it wouldn’t lay down or look normal until it was longer than 2 inches which left me looking like a dandelion that was ready to spread its seeds.

Currently I have a relatively traditional Mohawk and by traditional I don’t mean the punk look, more of the shaved back and sides with long hair on top.

211 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 3:57:27pm

WTF Twitter. Why am I seeing Tweets of people that I already blocked & muted? Does the blockage/mutage expire?

212 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 3:57:52pm

re: #197 Pie-onist Overlord

Hockey Mom-Lipstick=Pit Bull

That deserved repeating.

213 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 3:59:10pm

re: #211 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF Twitter. Why am I seeing Tweets of people that I already blocked & muted? Does the blockage/mutage expire?

Re-tweets maybe?

214 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 3:59:21pm

re: #209 Pie-onist Overlord

Twitter’s search function is Teh Suck. That is all.

So I noticed. That’s ok. Just jumped over to her time line and snagged it.

215 klys  Sep 16, 2014 3:59:39pm

re: #208 GeneJockey

Aww…

Years ago I dated a woman who HAD HAD hair downt to the backs of her knees when I first met her. When I was seeing her she’d cut it to about bottom of shoulder blades. I asked about it, and she told me she’d braided it before she cut it off, and kept the braid, and did I want to see it?

I did, but when she handed it too me, for some reason, it was repellant. I have NO IDEA why, but I couldn’t stand touching the thing.

The hair on her head, yes - wonderful stuff.

The braid? Icky.

Again, no idea why.

I did keep a curl of his hair the last time he made me cut it. IT DOES FUCKING RINGLETS. I REQUIRE CANS OF HAIRSPRAY TO GET THAT EFFECT.

I now have this mental image of attaching WW’s braids to a stick and chasing you around with them, because I am mature and all of 3.

217 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:00:21pm

re: #210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I had my head shaved completely several years ago, but it was still a lot of maintenance since I didn’t like the peach fuzz look. Growing it back was horribly annoying since it wouldn’t lay down or look normal until it was longer than 2 inches which left me looking like a dandelion that was ready to spread its seeds.

Currently I have a relatively traditional Mohawk and by traditional I don’t mean the punk look, more of the shaved back and sides with long hair on top.

I wish I had some choice of haircut. I’m sufficiently bald on top and the rest of my hair is sufficently thick and wavy that if I don’t keep it short, I get the ‘Frasier Crane’ look.

Worse, the sides like to curve upward, and give me the Bozo look.

218 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:00:50pm

re: #208 GeneJockey

I did, but when she handed it too me, for some reason, it was repellant. I have NO IDEA why, but I couldn’t stand touching the thing.

The hair on her head, yes - wonderful stuff.

The braid? Icky.

Again, no idea why.

It is kind of like a dead thing. A lifeless snake.

219 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 4:01:08pm

re: #197 Pie-onist Overlord

Hockey Mom-Lipstick=Pit Bull

She actually compares herself to a sheepdog.

220 darthstar  Sep 16, 2014 4:01:12pm

re: #214 Bubblehead II

So I noticed. That’s ok. Just jumped over to her time line and snagged it.

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221 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:01:39pm

re: #218 wrenchwench

It is kind of like a dead thing. A lifeless snake.

I believe you have hit the nail upon the head.

222 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:02:00pm

re: #218 wrenchwench

It is kind of like a dead thing. A lifeless snake.

Hair is heavy, which most people don’t realize until they cut off like a foot and then suddenly that weight is GONE.

223 blueraven  Sep 16, 2014 4:02:07pm

re: #210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I had my head shaved completely several years ago, but it was still a lot of maintenance since I didn’t like the peach fuzz look. Growing it back was horribly annoying since it wouldn’t lay down or look normal until it was longer than 2 inches which left me looking like a dandelion that was ready to spread its seeds.

Currently I have a relatively traditional Mohawk and by traditional I don’t mean the punk look, more of the shaved back and sides with long hair on top.

Like this?

224 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:04:51pm

re: #222 klys

Hair is heavy, which most people don’t realize until they cut off like a foot and then suddenly that weight is GONE.

Especially with a metric ton of hairspray.

225 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:05:25pm

re: #223 blueraven

Like this?

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That boy needs a kilt and bagpipes.

226 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:06:13pm

re: #222 klys

Hair is heavy, which most people don’t realize until they cut off like a foot and then suddenly that weight is GONE.

I get massive headaches from my hair. I have to keep it layered so it doesn’t weigh as much. I need a good layering now since it’s almost mid-back and the layers are almost gone. When I put it in a pony (my usual ‘do), that ponytail has a 1 1/4” diameter.

227 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:06:18pm

re: #223 blueraven

more like the third one on the top row here:

pixgood.com

Ironically I have had this hair cut since before the game came out.

228 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:07:52pm

re: #224 GeneJockey

Especially with a metric ton of hairspray.

Hey. Be kind to us girls who have straight as an arrow hair. Hairspray, in any quantity including by the ton, is a gift from the gods.

229 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 4:08:42pm

Rightwingers are doing their own informal poll on who the next Presidential candidate should be…and Scott Walker seems to be holding the lead, lol.

230 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 4:08:49pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“We’ve found ebola-soaked prayer rugs on the border”.

I was reading about the derp yesterday where some sheriff or whatever was claiming to have found discarded/abandoned prayer rugs & Qur’ans. My first thought was “bullshit”.

The prayer rugs aren’t a big deal, they just provide a clean, dry place to kneel down, but observant Muslims are meticulous when it comes to handling the Qur’an. I can easily imagine people taking a small pocket-size traveling one with them, but you’re not going to find a bunch of Qur’ans just tossed on the side of the road or whatever—at least not unless there was a group of Qur’an carrying Muslims who encountered a life-threatening situation that caused them to abandon them in order to save themselves.

231 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 4:08:55pm

re: #228 WhatEVs

Hey. Be kind to us girls who have straight as an arrow hair. Hairspray, in any quantity including by the ton, is a gift from the gods.

Mrs. Fish has naturally curly hair. I think she goes through more hair products in a day than most people use in an entire year.

232 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 4:09:25pm

Video

I just can’t…even…ugh. To defend what Adrian Peterson did is reprehensible.

233 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:10:21pm

re: #228 WhatEVs

Hey. Be kind to us girls who have straight as an arrow hair. Hairspray, in any quantity including by the ton, is a gift from the gods.

Mrs. J has dead straight, very fine hair. It’s the very devil to do anything with. She looks at our younger boy with envy at the thick head of ash blonde wavy hair he somehow managed to scrounge from the genes we gave him.

234 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:11:04pm

re: #228 WhatEVs

Hey. Be kind to us girls who have straight as an arrow hair. Hairspray, in any quantity including by the ton, is a gift from the gods.

and those of us guys who have ridiculously straight/fine hair that you can’t do a thing with without hairspray or products. Not that I do much with my hair now but to actually style it requires hairspray or gel just to keep it in place.

235 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:11:12pm

Too bad they can’t send back the sheriff himself.

236 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 4:11:54pm

re: #232 Jenner7

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I just can’t…even…ugh. To defend what Adrian Peterson did is reprehensible.

I posted upthread that both Governor Dayton and Senator Franken are calling for Peterson’s continued suspension while the legal events play out. It’s causing a bit of a stir among Minnesotans.

237 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:12:03pm

re: #233 GeneJockey

Mrs. J has dead straight, very fine hair. It’s the very devil to do anything with. She looks at our younger boy with envy at the thick head of ash blonde wavy hair he somehow managed to scrounge from the genes we gave him.

If there is not enough hairspray involved to set small explosions off with, my hair will pull out any curls.

Hell, it’s pulling out the curls in that photo and that is with enough hairspray to terrify any chemist anywhere near open flames.

Fortunately loose curls can be pretty.

238 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:13:02pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish has naturally curly hair. I think she goes through more hair products in a day than most people use in an entire year.

The things we do! (Hopefully, you appreciate her efforts.)

239 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 4:14:29pm

re: #238 WhatEVs

The things we do! (Hopefully, you appreciate her efforts.)

Of course I do. I keep telling her she doesn’t have to work to look good, but she insists on doing it anyway.

240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:15:16pm

My wife has incredibly curly hair to the point where, when she straightens it, it gains 3-4 inches of length. I personally think her curly hair looks great but I also understand what a pain it is.

241 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:15:40pm

The Vines will stop if you click on them.

More stuff on this TL.

242 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:15:47pm

re: #239 thedopefishlives

Of course I do. I keep telling her she doesn’t have to work to look good, but she insists on doing it anyway.

Pretty sure she’s not doing it for you, she’s doing it for herself and what she thinks she needs to do to look good.

However, you telling her so is probably always appreciated and never unwelcome.

243 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:17:11pm

re: #241 wrenchwench

a lot of white people looking really uncomfortable in those vids LOL.

244 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:18:05pm

re: #233 GeneJockey

Mrs. J has dead straight, very fine hair. It’s the very devil to do anything with.

Just like me. I’ve started doing cool buns with awesome hair sticks. I have a half dozen of these bad boys. Soooooo pretty and as easy as it gets.

amazon.com

Think of these at gift time. Maybe she’d like them.

Edited to fix my fat fingering iPhone habits.

245 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:18:12pm
246 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:19:55pm

re: #242 klys

Pretty sure she’s not doing it for you, she’s doing it for herself and what she thinks she needs to do to look good.

However, you telling her so is probably always appreciated and never unwelcome.

Yes, but then there’s the dreaded question upon coming home:

“Notice anything?”

247 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:21:00pm

re: #244 WhatEVs

Just like me. I’ve started doing cool buns with awesome hair sticks. I have a half dozen if these bad boys. Soooooo pretty and as easy as if gets.

amazon.com

Think of these at gift time. Maybe she’d like them.

Her hair won’t grow long enough. Mostly her hair styles consist of making it look like she has some.

248 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 4:21:13pm

re: #246 GeneJockey

Yes, but then there’s the dreaded question upon coming home:

>“Notice anything?”

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Been burned by that several times. Mrs. Fish has learned not to try to be subtle with me. I love her to death, but observation is not my strong suit and I try to make sure she knows this.

249 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:22:07pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

Been burned by that several times. Mrs. Fish has learned not to try to be subtle with me. I love her to death, but observation is not my strong suit and I try to make sure she knwos this.

I tell my wife all the time that I don’t do subtlety, want me to notice something then point it out. I don’t do hints well LOL.

250 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 4:23:57pm

re: #240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My wife has incredibly curly hair to the point where, when she straightens it, it gains 3-4 inches of length. I personally think her curly hair looks great but I also understand what a pain it is.

I feel her pain. Mine is the same—have to take a brush into the shower to work conditioner through my hair. Ugh. When I was young I used to try to straighten it, but it never lasted long so I gave up. Once they started coming out with the frizz control stuff I started using that. Then I became Muslim and went hijabi after the first year.

Since I cover my hair if I go out anywhere, I just keep it in a ponytail now. That’s one of the benefits of being a hijabi—no such thing as a bad hair day. ;-)

251 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:24:02pm

re: #247 GeneJockey

Her hair won’t grow long enough. Mostly her hair styles consist of making it look like she has some.

Ah. That definitely takes a lot of product. They have stuff I can’t even imagine: root lifters with embedded fibers, thickeners, lengtheners, fatten it up, thin it out. I’m awed every time I hit the hair care aisle.

252 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:24:44pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

Been burned by that several times. Mrs. Fish has learned not to try to be subtle with me. I love her to death, but observation is not my strong suit and I try to make sure she knwos this.

“Um… uh… New blouse?”
“NO! I cleaned the kitchen!”

Then,

“Um… uh… You cleaned the kitchen?”
“NO! I got my hair done!”

You can’t win.

253 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:25:40pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Try Wen. That’s the best stuff in the market.

254 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:26:01pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

Been burned by that several times. Mrs. Fish has learned not to try to be subtle with me. I love her to death, but observation is not my strong suit and I try to make sure she knows this.

Hahaha, I show the husband the needlework project and he pretends to have some idea of where the difference is.

Of course, he referred to the last one as the basketballs on the ocean project, so…

255 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:26:20pm
256 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:27:49pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

Wait, wait, I put my shocked face somewhere…

No, not there…

No, not there either…

Oh, well, fuck it.

257 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:28:28pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

There is this new stuff on the market called “Mixed Chicks” that I keep trying to get her to try. When we were in El Salvador she went to a salon there and got some sort of straightening treatment using chocolate and some other stuff (chemicals most likely) and that lasted for several months.

There it was 50 bucks, here they charge upwards of 300. Fortunately she is good friends with a hair stylist who straightens her hair/does it for her and in return my wife does cupcakes for events the stylist has at her shop.

258 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 4:28:35pm

re: #242 klys

Pretty sure she’s not doing it for you, she’s doing it for herself and what she thinks she needs to do to look good.

However, you telling her so is probably always appreciated and never unwelcome.

To be honest, I don’t think there are that many women who actually do it for themselves. Why? Because I’ve never met a woman who bothered with the vanity stuff unless there’s someone around to appreciate her efforts, even if it’s just a girlfriend. I’ve never seen a woman do her hair & makeup and then just sit at home alone. YMMV

259 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 4:29:29pm

re: #222 klys

Hair is heavy, which most people don’t realize until they cut off like a foot and then suddenly that weight is GONE.

Yeah. Had a girlfriend in HS that had hair down almost knee length. It was causing her headaches so she had to cut it. It was jet black and straight. She looked almost Native American (she is Italian) with her skin tone and long black hair.

260 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:29:38pm

re: #258 CuriousLurker

To be honest, I don’t think there are that many women who actually do it for themselves. Why? Because I’ve never met a woman who bothered with the vanity stuff unless there’s someone around to appreciate her efforts, even if it’s just a girlfriend. I’ve never seen a woman do her hair & makeup and then just sit at home alone. YMMV

I was thinking more work/society/people judging when you go grocery shopping than herself-herself, but your point is taken.

261 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:30:25pm

re: #258 CuriousLurker

To be honest, I don’t think there are that many women who actually do it for themselves. Why? Because I’ve never met a woman who bothered with the vanity stuff unless there’s someone around to appreciate her efforts, even if it’s just a girlfriend. I’ve never seen a woman do her hair & makeup and then just sit at home alone. YMMV

My wife does her hair because she hates the fact she has super curly/black girl hair (she is part black). She always like straight hair and that’s what she wants. So she’s always done that for herself despite me telling her she looks fine with curly hair lol.

262 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 4:30:47pm

re: #258 CuriousLurker

To be honest, I don’t think there are that many women who actually do it for themselves. Why? Because I’ve never met a woman who bothered with the vanity stuff unless there’s someone around to appreciate her efforts, even if it’s just a girlfriend. I’ve never seen a woman do her hair & makeup and then just sit at home alone. YMMV

If Mrs. J gets dolled up, it’s generally to out with her gal pals. She seems to take my interest as a given.

To be fair, it is.

263 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 4:32:09pm

re: #240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My wife has incredibly curly hair to the point where, when she straightens it, it gains 3-4 inches of length. I personally think her curly hair looks great but I also understand what a pain it is.

Mine was like that. I had many women tell me they were jealous of my hair when I was in my late teens til early 30s.

I don’t have any hair now.

Guys, stop bitching about how you have the occasional bad hair day.
Those days will disappear.

264 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:32:58pm

re: #262 GeneJockey

If Mrs. J gets dolled up, it’s generally to out with her gal pals. She seems to take my interest as a given.

To be fair, it is.

I do makeup for presentations/weddings and the husband wants me to get away with as little as possible on those occasions.

I’m starting to side-eye my wardrobe as I think about what to wear for interviews and of course that’s one of the components to consider for those too, even if it is Silicon Valley.

Just give me a job where I can wear my dorky t-shirts and I’ll be happy.

265 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 4:33:15pm

NFL is starting to feel some heat from sponsors.

Anheuser-Busch, McDonald’s voice NFL disapproval

Major sponsors including Anheuser-Busch are adding to the chorus of disapproval over the National Football League’s recent scandals, but the companies are stopping short of pulling advertising.

Good to see these companies putting pressure on the NFL, but until they actually start pulling adds, the NFL is just going to pay them lip service and hopes this all blow over.

266 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 4:33:45pm

London man wasn’t about to let them tow his car, even though they already had it up on the flatbed…

Youtube Video

267 thedopefishlives  Sep 16, 2014 4:33:50pm

re: #265 Bubblehead II

NFL is starting to feel some heat from sponsors.

Anheuser-Busch, McDonald’s voice NFL disapproval

Major sponsors including Anheuser-Busch are adding to the chorus of disapproval over the National Football League’s recent scandals, >but the companies are stopping short of pulling advertising.

Good to see these companies putting pressure on the NFL, but until they actually start pulling adds, the NFL is just going to pay them lip service and hopes this all blow over.

Radisson (the hotel chain) pulled their sponsorship of the Vikings specifically.

268 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 4:33:50pm

The great BB King & I have something in common: the same birthday, which happens to be today. Show ‘em how it’s done, BB…

Youtube Video

269 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 4:34:02pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

I feel her pain. Mine is the same—have to take a brush into the shower to work conditioner through my hair. Ugh. When I was young I used to try to straighten it, but it never lasted long so I gave up. Once they started coming out with the frizz control stuff I started using that. Then I became Muslim and went hijabi after the first year.

Since I cover my hair if I go out anywhere, I just keep it in a ponytail now. That’s one of the benefits of being a hijabi—no such thing as a bad hair day. ;-)

In early high school I used to try straightening my hair with an iron.

270 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 16, 2014 4:34:35pm

re: #263 b_sharp

Mine was like that. I had many women tell me they were jealous of my hair when I was in my late teens til early 30s.

I don’t have any hair now.

Guys, stop bitching about how you have the occasional bad hair day.
Those days will disappear.

I am fortunate, my hair genes come from my Mother’s side of the family and there is no baldness on that side. The downside is I can’t grow a decent moustache/goatee because it always ends up looking lop-sided.

271 CuriousLurker  Sep 16, 2014 4:34:44pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

The great BB King & I share one thing and one thing alone: the same birthday, which happens to be today. Show ‘em how it’s done, BB…

[Embedded content]

Happy Birthday!

272 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 4:35:04pm

dear female persons

i like long hair. the longer the better

that is all thank you

273 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 4:37:51pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

The great BB King & I share one thing and one thing alone: the same birthday, which happens to be today. Show ‘em how it’s done, BB…

[Embedded content]

Happy Birthday.

274 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 4:39:06pm

I had long hair for years. I got tired of it and (more importantly) I had a rash on the back of my neck which would simply not clear up due to the volumes of hair I had. So a year ago I had it whacked off. I went from past waist length to a tiny bob in one day. My late father was thrilled as my long hair drove him nuts: “professional women should have short hair.”

Now I can’t imagine going back. I don’t know how I lived with all that hair for so many years.

275 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 4:39:07pm

re: #272 dog philosopher

dear female persons

i like long hair. the longer the better

that is all thank you

I do too.

My wife’s hair is half way down her back & she keeps threatening to cut it.

Then I cry and she decides not to.

276 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:40:02pm

re: #274 dholmes32

I had long hair for years. I got tired of it and (more importantly) I had a rash on the back of my neck which would simply not clear up due to the volumes of hair I had. So a year ago I had it whacked off. I went from past waist length to a tiny bob in one day. My late father was thrilled as my long hair drove him nuts: “professional women should have short hair.”

Now I can’t imagine going back. I don’t know how I lived with all that hair for so many years.

I respect your decision but with all due respect thumb my nose in your father’s opinion’s direction.

277 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 4:40:43pm

re: #267 thedopefishlives

Radisson (the hotel chain) pulled their sponsorship of the Vikings specifically.

Yeah I know. I posted about a couple of threads back. Thing is, that was only local sponsorship. The big corps need to be pressured into pulling national adverts. If that were to occur, even for 1 blasted game, the NFL would trip all over itself to properly address it’s DV problems.

278 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 4:40:58pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

The great BB King & I have something in common: the same birthday, which happens to be today. Show ‘em how it’s done, BB…

[Embedded content]

Happy birthday Mr. Chair!

279 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 4:41:48pm

re: #277 Bubblehead II

Yeah I know. I posted about a couple of threads back. Thing is, that was only local sponsorship. The big corps need to be pressured into pulling national adverts. If that were to occur, even for 1 blasted game, the NFL would trip all over itself to properly address it’s DV problems.

I believe Budweiser made a statement.

280 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 4:41:54pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

The great BB King & I have something in common: the same birthday, which happens to be today. Show ‘em how it’s done, BB…

[Embedded content]

Happy birthday.

281 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:44:13pm

Shining gleaming streaming flaxen waxen.

282 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:13pm

re: #276 klys

I respect your decision but with all due respect thumb my nose in your father’s opinion’s direction.

Ditto. Professional is what you do with what you have. One reason for my hair sticks.

283 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:35pm

Seriously, who the fuck makes “garlic dill pickle spears” that taste like fucking bread and butter pickles?

These are disgusting.

284 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:38pm

uh, wut?

285 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:40pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

Happy birthday!

286 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:58pm

re: #276 klys

I respect your decision but with all due respect thumb my nose in your father’s opinion’s direction.

My Dad is very vocal about how short hair is more appropriate on older women.

He’s very vocal about all kinds of random stupid shit like that.

Whatever, I’m like focus on your own fucking business.

287 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 4:45:59pm

The Man

Thanks everybody!

288 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 4:46:10pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

I believe Budweiser made a statement.

They did. But like I stated up thread, it’s my opinion that the NFL will make all the right sounding noise in the hopes this will all die down and then continue business as usual.

289 Kid A  Sep 16, 2014 4:48:08pm

I forgot to mention this over the weekend but last Friday was my one year anniversary of quitting smoking.

290 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 4:48:25pm

Yeah, but…

291 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 4:50:03pm

re: #276 klys

I respect your decision but with all due respect thumb my nose in your father’s opinion’s direction.

The rash was really the deciding factor. It would simply not go away, even with application of very nasty steroids. Since I’m also diabetic, I thought I was taking an unnecessary risk with my health by having a long-running rash/infection/nastiness on my neck, so off it came.

292 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:50:23pm

re: #289 Kid A

I forgot to mention this over the weekend but last Friday was my one year anniversary of quitting smoking.

Congratulations!

293 klys  Sep 16, 2014 4:50:37pm

re: #291 dholmes32

The rash was really the deciding factor. It would simply not go away, even with application of very nasty steroids. Since I’m also diabetic, I thought I was taking an unnecessary risk with my health by having a long-running rash/infection/nastiness on my neck, so off it came.

That I completely respect and understand. Your health, your hair, your decisions, no question from me there.

294 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:50:52pm

Looks like wingnuts have a new magic word: ROTHERHAM!

If only there were conservatives in ROTHERHAM. This proves it.

295 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:51:02pm
296 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 4:51:50pm

re: #289 Kid A

Huge congratulations Kid A

297 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:52:59pm

Then we have this odd comment.

Sure, I just love to read the work of Cliff Kincaid at “RightSideNews.” Can’t get enough of that deranged wingnut stuff.

Weird to see people with no clue about me who nevertheless have strong opinions about how I feel.

298 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 4:53:12pm

re: #295 wrenchwench

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Interesting photo. Prospective caption: Honkies gotta honk?

299 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:53:55pm

re: #295 wrenchwench

Headline at Gateway Pundit:

IT BEGINS! RAGING FERGUSON MOB PROMISES TO KILL WHITEY!

300 Kid A  Sep 16, 2014 4:54:22pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

Headline at Gateway Pundit:

IT BEGINS! RAGING FERGUSON MOB PROMISES TO KILL WHITEY!

BREAKING!

301 dholmes32  Sep 16, 2014 4:54:28pm

re: #282 WhatEVs

Ditto. Professional is what you do with what you have. One reason for my hair sticks.

It was very professional, braided up and all. But Dad, well, he thought professional women should have short hair. Of course, he also thought they should wear suits. I’d die if I had to wear a suit. On the other hand, there are some people at my work site (a huge operations center) who dress like they’re auditioning for the “People of Walmart” web page. I wish I was lying.

302 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 4:54:37pm

re: #289 Kid A

I forgot to mention this over the weekend but last Friday was my one year anniversary of quitting smoking.

Kudos.

303 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 4:54:58pm

re: #219 Bubblehead II

She actually compares herself to a sheepdog.

I recall the speech she made at the 2008 convention after receiving the VP nomination. She said “What’s the difference between a Hockey Mom and a Pit Bull? Lipstick!”

That was kinda clever and coherent, so somebody else wrote it for her.

304 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 4:55:32pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

Headline at Gateway Pundit:

IT BEGINS! RAGING FERGUSON MOB PROMISES TO KILL WHITEY!

They’re going to have to join the police force first.

305 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:55:33pm

re: #298 De Kolta Chair

Interesting photo. Honkies gotta honk?

There’s one Vine on that other guy’s feed in which the white people are face-palming. Kind of finger-tip face-palming, so’s not to muss the makeup.

306 Kid A  Sep 16, 2014 4:55:45pm

re: #296 b.d.

Huge congratulations Kid A

Thank you. Getting pneumonia a year ago made the decision pretty easy, lol. I can’t tell you how great I feel, and if any of you are considering quitting, DO IT.

307 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 4:56:13pm

re: #286 goddamnedfrank

Like, I cut my hair short because I thought it made me look fat when it was longer. Does it really make me look fat or is it that I actually was fat? Maybe the problem wasn’t so much me growing it out as I was just saying fuck going to the barber. The world will never know, but I am losing weight like a mother-fucker this year, so there is that. Will probably keep the hair short even after I get down to the goal weight of 175, because with the broad shoulders I’m never going to be mistaken for skinny anyway.

But the point is I give negative shits about other people’s fashion choices.

308 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 4:56:28pm

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

How’d I miss this? Hippy birthday!

Hippy Birthday, Dude!

309 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 4:57:06pm

re: #306 Kid A

Thank you. Getting pneumonia a year ago made the decision pretty easy, lol. I can’t tell you how great I feel, and if any of you are considering quitting, DO IT.

That’s what made Mr. w quit, cold turkey. That was 14 years ago.

310 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:58:28pm
311 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 16, 2014 4:58:38pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Looks like wingnuts have a new magic word: ROTHERHAM!

If only there were conservatives in ROTHERHAM. This proves it.

The EDL, NF, and the various other white power groups have been touting Rotherham as the fault of Muslims and people that tolerate them.

312 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 4:58:39pm

re: #228 WhatEVs

Hey. Be kind to us girls who have straight as an arrow hair. Hairspray, in any quantity including by the ton, is a gift from the gods.

I remember the days when straight-as-a-stick long hair was THE THING. We curly haired girls slept with our hair around orange juice cans AND WE EVEN IRONED OUR HAIR.

I asked my African-American friends where I could get hair-straightening product and they were all like “You’re too white for that shit”

313 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 4:58:49pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

Headline at Gateway Pundit:

IT BEGINS! RAGING FERGUSON MOB PROMISES TO KILL WHITEY!

[2008] JUST WAIT UNTIL THE WHITEY TAPE IS RELEASED!! [/2008]

314 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 4:58:59pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

Headline at Gateway Pundit:

IT BEGINS! RAGING FERGUSON MOB PROMISES TO KILL WHITEY!

Dim is Cartman without all the charm.

315 Kid A  Sep 16, 2014 4:59:10pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

That’s what made Mr. w quit, cold turkey. That was 14 years ago.

Yep. My doctor said smoking increased my risk of pneumonia by 300%, so I said “Okay, I’m done.” And I never cheated. Not. One. Time.

316 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 4:59:38pm

Jim Hoft is going to have a field day with this.

317 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 4:59:46pm

Who the hell has used the word whitey in the last 20 years?

318 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:00:40pm
319 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:00:57pm

re: #312 Pie-onist Overlord

I remember the days when straight-as-a-stick long hair was THE THING. We curly haired girls slept with our hair around orange juice cans AND WE EVEN IRONED OUR HAIR.

I asked my African-American friends where I could get hair-straightening product and they were all like “You’re too white for that shit”

Mt grade school to high school best friend with the nice curly hair did the orange juice cans.

320 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 5:00:57pm

re: #311 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t know exactly what happened there, but looks suspiciously like a bunch of corrupt officials trying to excuse their failings by blaming nebulous “PC”.

321 Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2014 5:01:21pm

re: #317 b.d.

Who the hell has used the word whitey in the last 20 years?

Does using it ironically count?

322 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:01:40pm

re: #317 b.d.

Who the hell has used the word whitey in the last 20 years?

Whitey Bulger’s friends?

Oh, and that Johnson guy on Dkos - not Charles, some other Johnson. Over and over again.

323 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:02:30pm

re: #311 The Ghost of a Flea

The EDL, NF, and the various other white power groups have been touting Rotherham as the fault of Muslims and people that tolerate them.

Of course they have. I’ve gotten several emails from those kinds of nutjobs ranting at me about not posting about ROTHERHAM! ROTHERHAM, I tell you!

324 dog philosopher  Sep 16, 2014 5:02:55pm

re: #317 b.d.

Who the hell has used the word whitey in the last 20 years?

discussing great yankee baseball players of the 60s?

325 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:09pm

re: #312 Pie-onist Overlord

I remember the days when straight-as-a-stick long hair was THE THING. We curly haired girls slept with our hair around orange juice cans AND WE EVEN IRONED OUR HAIR.

I asked my African-American friends where I could get hair-straightening product and they were all like “You’re too white for that shit”

And I used to get mine permed. The grass is always greener…. :-)

326 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:10pm

One of the emails I got was this:

Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham

Seriously.

327 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:43pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

One of the emails I got was this:

Seriously.

Needs moar Rotherham.

328 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:49pm

re: #325 WhatEVs

And I used to get mine permed. The grass is always greener…. :-)

I did that all of once.

329 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:52pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

Like, I cut my hair short because I thought it made me look fat when it was longer. Does it actually make me look fat or is it that I actually was fat? Maybe the problem wasn’t so much me growing it out as I was just saying fuck going to the barber. The world will never know, but I am losing weight like a mother-fucker this year, so there is that. Will probably keep the hair short even after I get down to the goal weight of 175, because with the broad shoulders I’m never going to be mistaken for skinny anyway.

But the point is I give negative shits about other people’s fashion choices.

I shaved my beard off because I KNEW it made me look old. Balding, gray hair - that made me look middle aged. Snowy white beard? Old. Just plain old.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 5:03:59pm

re: #178 Bubblehead II

Yep. She posted several like that on her face book page to keep the paparazzi from getting a “scoop”. I’ll see if I can find her twee.

She went home, combed her hair, put on some makeup, and had Todd or one of the kids take her picture in the driveway in an attempt to scoop the paparazzi.

331 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:04:48pm

re: #328 klys

I did that all of once.

Me too.

332 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 5:05:33pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

ham, dam, whatevs. The point is whitey is clearly letting the terrorists win.

Again, sarc tags are for lepers.

333 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:05:52pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

One of the emails I got was this:

Seriously.

It’s like the scene in Being John Malkovich, where John Malkovich goes in, and everyone in the whole scene is him, and all they say is, “Malkovich”

334 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:06:02pm

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

ham, dam, whatevs. The point is whitey is clearly letting the terrorists win.

Again, sarc tags are for lepers.

/sprinkles leper germs all over you

335 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:06:20pm

“Based on hundreds of interviews with these detained families that our expert lawyers have conducted, AILA has concluded that Artesia is a due process failure and a humanitarian disaster that cannot be fixed and must be closed immediately. Attorneys with long histories of representing clients at remote detention facilities have described Artesia as not just the worst situation they have ever encountered, but something far worse than anything they could have imagined.” - AILA letters to President Obama and Members of Congress, Sept. 16, 2014.

Links at the link.

336 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:07:07pm

Oh, good. Nobody noticed my embarrassing misspelling in the previous post.

337 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 5:07:10pm

Make up your damn minds! ///

338 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:07:34pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

One of the emails I got was this:

Seriously.

Any idea what he was trying to say?

339 EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2014 5:08:03pm

re: #329 GeneJockey

I shaved my beard off because I KNEW it made me look old. Balding, gay hair - that made me look middle aged. Snowy white beard? Old. Just plain old.

I can add 10+ years to my apparent age by letting the beard come in. Having the gray and white hairs only in the beard will do that…

340 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 16, 2014 5:08:05pm

Open grave!

341 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 5:08:14pm

Rotherham ≠ Rotterdam

Europe really pisses me off when it does shit like this.

342 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:08:23pm

re: #336 GeneJockey

Oh, good. Nobody noticed my embarrassing misspelling in the previous post.

You mean the one I was too nice to quote?

It’s awfully happy in here…

343 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:08:28pm

re: #329 GeneJockey

I shaved my beard off because I KNEW it made me look old. Balding, gay hair - that made me look middle aged. Snowy white beard? Old. Just plain old.

My wife won’t let me shave off my goatee.

344 goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2014 5:09:07pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

Dammit. I couldn’t even do it right. Because fuck Europe that’s why.

345 bratwurst  Sep 16, 2014 5:09:25pm

re: #323 Charles Johnson

Of course they have. I’ve gotten several emails from those kinds of nutjobs ranting at me about not posting about ROTHERHAM! ROTHERHAM, I tell you!

Guess who else is Rotherham obsessed!

346 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:09:50pm

re: #345 bratwurst

Nope.

347 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 5:09:58pm
348 calochortus  Sep 16, 2014 5:10:18pm

re: #328 klys

I did that all of once.

With a perm my hair gets fluffy. Not a look I need. It’s fine, straight and limp-and now that I’m on the shady side of 60, thinning (so it drys fast after I wash it.) Mr. Calochortus likes it long and I’m too lazy to spend a lot of time on it, so I leave it somewhat below shoulder length and wear it up.

349 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:10:22pm
350 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:10:44pm

We’ve got Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham eggs Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham bacon Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham and Rotherham.

That’s not got much Rotherham in it.

351 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:11:02pm

re: #345 bratwurst

Yup.

352 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:11:09pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

We’ve got Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham eggs Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham bacon Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham and Rotherham.

That’s not got much Rotherham in it.

Mmmmm, bacon.

Is it free?

353 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:11:33pm

re: #343 b_sharp

My wife won’t let me shave off my goatee.

My wife won’t let me go more than a day without shaving. Well, that’s not QUITE true. I can go without shaving as long as I like, provided I don’t try and kiss her. She’s terribly sensitive to prickly face.

354 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:12:00pm
355 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:12:09pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

We’ve got Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham eggs Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham bacon Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham Rotherham and Rotherham.

That’s not got much Rotherham in it.

Double upding for a MP Spam skit reference.

356 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 5:12:32pm

re: #352 klys

Mmmmm, bacon.

Is it free?

Yes. But allowed only if you’re Christian.

357 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:12:46pm

re: #353 GeneJockey

My wife won’t let me go more than a day without shaving. Well, that’s not QUITE true. I can go without shaving as long as I like, provided I don’t try and kiss her. She’s terribly sensitive to prickly face.

Different strokes I guess.

358 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:13:11pm

re: #356 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yes. But allowed only if you’re Christian.

What, you mean there’s no pagan bacon allowed?

What about atheists?

Shinto?

359 Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2014 5:13:38pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft is going to have a field day with this.

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If he had used the term “Our community’s tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” the RWNJ would love it, right?

360 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 16, 2014 5:13:56pm

re: #201 klys

Is that you and your husband?

361 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:14:17pm

re: #360 I Stand With Big Sodomy!

Is that you and your husband?

Nope, we didn’t do a first dance. That’s me and my dad.

362 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 5:14:55pm

When did the Me Decade end again?

363 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 16, 2014 5:16:16pm

re: #358 klys

What, you mean there’s no pagan bacon allowed?

What about atheists?

Shinto?

Bacon made America into a Christian nation, not a Shinto or Hindu one.

364 GeneJockey  Sep 16, 2014 5:16:29pm

re: #361 klys

Nope, we didn’t do a first dance. That’s me and my dad.

No kilt.

365 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 16, 2014 5:17:03pm

re: #72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

There you are you sexy Russian! LMAO ha! I forgot to link this to my reply above! Open Grave was an excellent thriller horror Movie. It was different than anything I have seen in a while.

366 jaunte  Sep 16, 2014 5:17:51pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

“Tactical firearms” owner is an ass:

facebook.com

367 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:17:58pm

re: #364 GeneJockey

No kilt.

The tie was purple. This was an acceptable compromise.

368 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 16, 2014 5:18:15pm

re: #361 klys

Oh I love that. sweet pic.

369 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:18:37pm
370 Stephen T.  Sep 16, 2014 5:18:45pm

re: #205 klys

[Embedded content]

I’m stealing this quote. Only with your permission of course.

371 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:19:19pm

re: #370 Stephen T.

I’m stealing this quote. Only with your permission of course.

Not mine, so I say attribute the appropriate twitter handle and go for it.

372 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 5:19:57pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is really huge news in Kentucky:

[Embedded content]

Do any more of them recognize that Kynect and (the dreaded) Obamacare are one and the same than when last surveyed? Or have they still not made that “kynection?”

373 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 5:21:41pm

re: #343 b_sharp

My wife won’t let me shave off my goatee.

Smart woman. :-)

374 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:21:41pm

Older white guy goes off on StL council

vine.co

small part of what he said

375 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:22:36pm
376 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 5:24:13pm

re: #362 b.d.

When did the Me Decade end again?

[Embedded content]

That Dr. is toast if true.

wow

377 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 5:24:25pm

On the subject of facial hair, I’m not even sure I have a chin any more, have had either a goatee or a full beard for the last 15 years, and a ‘stache for probably 25.

Hair is easy, I shave it. Been doing so for about 8 years, lost a bet and liked the look.

RBS

378 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:24:38pm
379 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:24:40pm
380 Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2014 5:25:22pm

re: #369 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Ah the white people in the audience are pissed.

382 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 5:26:07pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Hoft is probably shoving all of his personal belongings in a suitcase preparing to leave Missouri.

383 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:27:31pm

re: #377 RealityBasedSteve

On the subject of facial hair, I’m not even sure I have a chin any more, have had either a goatee or a full beard for the last 15 years, and a ‘stache for probably 25.

Hair is easy, I shave it. Been doing so for about 8 years, lost a bet and liked the look.

RBS

Pretty much the same with me.

384 KiTA  Sep 16, 2014 5:27:40pm

Wait, what is this about a city council meeting? Can someone give me the crib notes, I can’t load the kids right now.

385 Jenner7  Sep 16, 2014 5:27:53pm

re: #380 Stanley Sea

Protesters are getting in the way of their precious solar panels….?

386 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:28:22pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

Shhh it’s a St.Louis council meeting not Ferguson, they want McCulloch removed.

387 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:29:25pm

re: #386 becominginvisible

I know, but hashtag.

388 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:29:47pm

re: #384 KiTA

Wait, what is this about a city council meeting? Can someone give me the crib notes, I can’t load the kids right now.

City Council meeting in Clayton, Mo. Has turned into a very vocal, but so far nonviolent protest.

389 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:30:53pm

People groaned when she started to speak but…

Sweet!

390 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:32:42pm

This made me laugh.

391 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:34:02pm

re: #387 Charles Johnson

Shhh….it’s not like they’d care about reality. They will miss the point completely, I wish the meeting would have been live, tweets are hard to follow.

392 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:36:01pm
393 ausador  Sep 16, 2014 5:37:28pm

re: #388 Bubblehead II

City St. Louis County Council meeting in Clayton, Mo. Has turned into a very vocal, but so far nonviolent protest.

FTFY

394 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:37:35pm
395 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:37:56pm
396 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:38:10pm
397 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:39:02pm

re: #393 ausador

I am corrected, thanks, it’s hard to keep track of what/where on that side of the state.

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 5:39:22pm

re: #300 Kid A

BREAKING!

WHOA!!!

399 sagehen  Sep 16, 2014 5:39:53pm
400 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:40:38pm

re: #399 sagehen

Secret Muslim

401 Stephen T.  Sep 16, 2014 5:40:58pm

re: #301 dholmes32

It was very professional, braided up and all. But Dad, well, he thought professional women should have short hair. Of course, he also thought they should wear suits. I’d die if I had to wear a suit. On the other hand, there are some people at my work site (a huge operations center) who dress like they’re auditioning for the “People of Walmart” web page. I wish I was lying.

I worked at a place once that finally had to crack down on employees showing up in pajamas. What really got me was there was so much of a stink about it, the company was forced to back down.

402 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:41:11pm
403 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:41:50pm
404 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:42:42pm
405 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:43:32pm
406 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 5:43:34pm

re: #325 WhatEVs

And I used to get mine permed. The grass is always greener…. :-)

My hair was so curly that I got a perm one time just to get it under control.

What. A. Nightmare. Ensued.

407 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:44:04pm

re: #393 ausador

FTFY

Thanks.

408 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:44:58pm

re: #403 Charles Johnson

I am ashamed that there are not more white folks joining in.

The simple reality is that if you took away the police aspect, took away the race aspect, and turned this into a confrontation between two people, the person in the role of Wilson would have been arrested long ago. Even allowing the bias that gets built into the system to defend officers (the “thin blue line” comes to mind), this was so blatant that you would think the indictment would be a done deal.

But here we are.

409 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 5:45:57pm

Was just chatting on the phone with an old pal who lives in the Mission District of San Francisco, and who has reservations tonight at a vegan soul food restaurant. Weird like a beard.

410 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 5:47:47pm

WTF TWEETDECK WHY DO YOU KEEP SHOWING ME ACCOUNTS THAT ARE BLOCKED!!

411 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:48:59pm

re: #408 klys

I am corrected that this is a county meeting and they are usually sparsely attended. There are white peeps although you are right not in proportion to black peeps and with 1 exception they are all reaming the elected peeps for not arresting Wilson.

412 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 5:49:04pm

re: #401 Stephen T.

I worked at a place once that finally had to crack down on employees showing up in pajamas. What really got me was there was so much of a stink about it, the company was forced to back down.

Jeez, when I was in an office, we were still arguing about women wearing hose. Pajamas? They’d have been laughed out of the building.

413 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:50:14pm

re: #411 becominginvisible

I am corrected that this is a county meeting and they are usually sparsely attended. There are white peeps although you are right not in proportion to black peeps and with 1 exception they are all reaming the elected peeps for not arresting Wilson.

Yeah, I’m just looking at this (and polls in recent days reflecting the racial divide in folks who think Darren Wilson should be arrested) and despairing some.

I was very careful to not talk politics for the past week.

414 Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2014 5:50:41pm

re: #410 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF TWEETDECK WHY DO YOU KEEP SHOWING ME ACCOUNTS THAT ARE BLOCKED!!

You gotta mute them too.

415 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:50:43pm
416 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:50:45pm

re: #412 WhatEVs

Jeez, when I was in an office, we were still arguing about women wearing hose. Pajamas? They’d have been laughed out of the building.

Hah, I’ll wear hose when they require the same of the men.

417 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:51:46pm

re: #416 klys

Hah, I’ll wear hose when they require the same of the men.

I look funny in a dress.

418 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:52:12pm

re: #417 Bubblehead II

I look funny in a dress.

I’m sure there’s some folks out there who’d be happy to provide tips…

419 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:52:55pm

re: #418 klys

I’m sure there’s some folks out there who’d be happy to provide tips…

knobby knees

420 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:53:15pm

re: #419 Bubblehead II

knobby knees

That one’s easy, calf-length.

421 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:53:23pm
422 wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2014 5:54:42pm

Hairiest thread ever.

Later, lizards.

423 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:55:14pm

re: #420 klys

That one’s easy, calf-length.

ummmmmmm, nope :-)

424 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 5:55:39pm

re: #287 De Kolta Chair

8/11/94—Bluesfest at the Polaris Amphitheater - Columbus, OH

Little Feat, BB King and Dr. John.

One of my favorite concerts of all time (and I used to go to a LOT of concerts.)

425 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 5:55:54pm

re: #413 klys

I find polls to be a bit dodgy. It’s been some time since I knew any one who lived in the St.Louis area but I got the impression whites aren’t used to having to repeatedly make a show of needing something to change. They go to a rally and thats it. I’m not sure if more people didn’t think to show or if they knew the room was small and there would be folks from Ferguson who would like to sit down and be in the room. There are more out in the hall than in the room.

426 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:56:02pm

re: #423 Bubblehead II

ummmmmmm, nope :-)

Fine by me, as long as I can get away with pants too. :)

427 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 5:56:10pm

re: #414 Charles Johnson

You gotta mute them too.

I am having to block & mute the same people over and over.

428 JustMark  Sep 16, 2014 5:57:21pm

re: #353 GeneJockey

Girlfriend is the same way…

429 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 5:57:27pm

re: #412 WhatEVs

Jeez, when I was in an office, we were still arguing about women wearing hose. Pajamas? They’d have been laughed out of the building.

Ran with a Katherine Gibbs secretarial student. White gloves, pillbox hat to class.

430 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 5:57:38pm

re: #416 klys

Hah, I’ll wear hose when they require the same of the men.

No shit. I’ve worked out of my home for 15 years now. I never want to go back to an office environment again. Ever.

431 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 5:58:24pm

re: #417 Bubblehead II

I look funny in a dress.

Can we see? (Wicked evil grin)

432 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 5:58:42pm

re: #426 klys

Fine by me, as long as I can get away with pants too. :)

Works for me. Required uniform in the shop. Even the Manager wears pants in the event she needs to help us move machines.

433 b.d.  Sep 16, 2014 5:59:08pm

WE REALLY NEED TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE AREN’T SECRETLY BEING REPLACED BY MEXICAN ISIS EBOLA POD PEOPLE

434 b_sharp  Sep 16, 2014 5:59:08pm

re: #427 Pie-onist Overlord

I am having to block & mute the same people over and over.

Be nice if Twitter could settle on a strategy.

435 klys  Sep 16, 2014 5:59:21pm

re: #425 becominginvisible

I find polls to be a bit dodgy. It’s been some time since I knew any one who lived in the St.Louis area but I got the impression whites aren’t used to having to repeatedly make a show of needing something to change. They go to a rally and thats it. I’m not sure if more people didn’t think to show or if they knew the room was small and there would be folks from Ferguson who would like to sit down and be in the room. There are more out in the hall than in the room.

Dodgy, maybe, but this level of difference is beyond statistical error.

The survey, released Monday morning by the Kansas City-based Remington Research Group, found that 65 percent of African-American county residents believe Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson acted unjustly when he ended Brown’s life Aug. 9 on a Ferguson street.

Conversely, 62 percent of the white residents surveyed by Remington believe the shooting death of Brown was justified.

436 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 5:59:43pm

re: #424 BeachDem

8/11/94—Bluesfest at the Polaris Amphitheater - Columbus, OH

Little Feat, BB King and Dr. John.

One of my favorite concerts of all time (and I used to go to a LOT of concerts.)

What a show that must’ve been! I’ve seen BB many times, and the best was in Concord CA with BB, Bobby “Blue” Bland, and Millie Jackson as the opening act. Amazing gig.

437 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 6:00:19pm

re: #429 Decatur Deb

Ran with a Katherine Gibbs secretarial student. White gloves, pillbox hat to class.

Ugh. That’s all I have to say.

438 becominginvisible  Sep 16, 2014 6:00:59pm

re: #435 klys

It’s not the margin of error that bothers me. It’s how they ask the question and who in those demographics they ask.

439 Bubblehead II  Sep 16, 2014 6:02:28pm

re: #431 WhatEVs

Can we see? (Wicked evil grin)

No pictures taken. Lets just say I was a useful hanger for the wife while she was doing some modifications.

OH LOOK! NEW THREAD!

440 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 6:02:41pm

re: #435 klys

Dodgy, maybe, but this level of difference is beyond statistical error.


The survey, released Monday morning by the Kansas City-based Remington Research Group, found that 65 percent of African-American county residents believe Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson acted unjustly when he ended Brown’s life Aug. 9 on a Ferguson street.

Conversely, 62 percent of the white residents surveyed by Remington believe the shooting death of Brown was justified.

And both groups are blundering through misinformation, pre-conception, rumor, distrust and assumption.

441 nsmith25  Sep 16, 2014 6:02:47pm

re: #372 BeachDem

Do any more of them recognize that Kynect and (the dreaded) Obamacare are one and the same than when last surveyed? Or have they still not made that “kynection?”

Of course not. I’m going to have to watch about 5-7 more commercials from Mitch McConnell and Andy Barr(KY-06 Rat) in their campaign running against Obama, with hardly a word about their actual opponents.

442 klys  Sep 16, 2014 6:04:28pm

re: #438 becominginvisible

It’s not the margin of error that bothers me. It’s how they ask the question and who in those demographics they ask.

So you trust no polls ever? That’s fair.

If anyone is interested, here’s the actual release by the polling agency.

443 WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2014 6:04:30pm

re: #439 Bubblehead II

No pictures taken. Lets just say I was a useful hanger for the wife while she was doing some modifications.

OH LOOK! NEW THREAD!

Heh!

Off to watch Face Off. I love this show. The artists are amazing. Ciao all!

444 Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2014 6:05:06pm

re: #437 WhatEVs

Ugh. That’s all I have to say.

On graduation, she could expect to out-earn a junior manager.

445 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 16, 2014 6:07:14pm

Shit, it’s like Twitter unblocked every derphead I ever blocked. WTF why are they doing this? AAAARRGGGGHHHH

446 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 16, 2014 6:09:25pm

re: #401 Stephen T.

I worked at a place once that finally had to crack down on employees showing up in pajamas. What really got me was there was so much of a stink about it, the company was forced to back down.

When did this even become a thing? I could maybe understand making a 1 am walmart run to get some medicine for a sick child, but at 2 in the afternoon? Really??

RBS

447 TedStriker  Sep 16, 2014 6:13:47pm

re: #283 klys

Seriously, who the fuck makes “garlic dill pickle spears” that taste like fucking bread and butter pickles?

These are disgusting.

Didn’t think that there was such a thing as a bad pickle, except for Aunt Bee’s “kerosene pickles”:

Youtube Video

448 klys  Sep 16, 2014 6:14:25pm

re: #447 TedStriker

Didn’t think that there was such a thing as a bad pickle, especially for Aunt Bee’s “kerosene pickles”:

[Embedded content]

Video

I hate bread and butter pickles with a passion.

449 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 6:15:31pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

My hair was so curly that I got a perm one time just to get it under control.

What. A. Nightmare. Ensued.

I thought I was the only person on earth who allowed a hairdresser to talk me into a “controlled perm” for my curly hair. It was hideous.
I used to iron it before going out at night—usually took about an hour and lasted about an hour.

Just about when I came to appreciate having curly hair, it started getting straighter all on its own. Can’t win for losing.

450 De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2014 6:15:56pm

Bob Dylan - “Pay In Blood” (2013)

Youtube Video

You met your lover in the bed
Come here, I’ll break your lousy head
Our nation must be saved and freed
You’ve been accused of murder, how do you plead?
This is how I spend my days
I came to bury, not to praise
I’ll drink my fill and sleep alone
I pay in blood, but not my own.

451 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 6:17:20pm

re: #448 klys

I hate bread and butter pickles with a passion.

If I could figure out a way to package it safely, I’d mail a jar or two or this summer’s kosher garlic dill pickles.
MrBWS says they are (as we say in the south) rather “bright” in flavor.
To those of tender tastebuds, they can bring tears to your eyes sometimes. Sooo much garlic…

452 klys  Sep 16, 2014 6:18:13pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I could figure out a way to package it safely, I’d mail a jar or two or this summer’s kosher garlic dill pickles.
MrBWS says they are (as we say in the south) rather “bright” in flavor.
To those of tender tastebuds, they can bring tears to your eyes sometimes. Sooo much garlic…

…I’m drooling, here. It’s not pretty.

453 TedStriker  Sep 16, 2014 6:18:46pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I could figure out a way to package it safely, I’d mail a jar or two or this summer’s kosher garlic dill pickles.
MrBWS says they are (as we say in the south) rather “bright” in flavor.
To those of tender tastebuds, they can bring tears to your eyes sometimes. Sooo much garlic…

Bubble wrap the hell out of that shit…

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 6:19:13pm

re: #449 BeachDem

I thought I was the only person on earth who allowed a hairdresser to talk me into a “controlled perm” for my curly hair. It was hideous.
I used to iron it before going out at night—usually took about an hour and lasted about an hour.

Just about when I came to appreciate having curly hair, it started getting straighter all on its own. Can’t win for losing.

heh…my hair has just decided to leave a follicle at a time and not come back. But what’s left is embracing its native curliness.

:(

455 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2014 6:20:14pm

re: #452 klys

…I’m drooling, here. It’s not pretty.

heh…
Let me see what I can do in terms of safe packaging…

456 klys  Sep 16, 2014 6:21:57pm

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…
Let me see what I can do in terms of safe packaging…

You have twitter messages.

457 BeachDem  Sep 16, 2014 6:22:20pm

re: #441 nsmith25

Of course not. I’m going to have to watch about 5-7 more commercials from Mitch McConnell and Andy Barr(KY-06 Rat) in their campaign running against Obama, with hardly a word about their actual opponents.

I feel your pain. I have to watch Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham commercials, which are truly terrible.

458 b_sharp  Sep 17, 2014 2:22:25pm

I’m just going to leave this dead thread comment on the floor. Don’t disturb it.


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