Live Music: The 2014 Americana Music Honors & Awards

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The 13th annual Americana Music Association Honors and Awards Show takes place on Wednesday, Sept. 17, at 8 p.m. ET, live from the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, Tenn. You can watch the entire event, including more than 20 performances by some of Americana’s biggest acts, live on npr.org and participating public radio websites.

Americana figurehead Jim Lauderdale will host the evening, backed by a house band featuring Buddy Miller, Don Was, Joachim Cooder, Tim Lauer, The McCrary Sisters, Brady Blade, and Ry Cooder.

Below is a list of artists scheduled to perform, as well as a list of the 2014 nominees.

FEATURED PERFORMERS
• Loretta Lynn
• Jason Isbell
• Jackson Browne
• Emmylou Harris
• JD Souther
• Rosanne Cash
• Patty Griffin
• Hurray For The Riff Raff
• Sturgill Simpson
• St. Paul & The Broken Bones
• Parker Millsap
• Robert Ellis
• Valerie June
• Flaco Jimenez
• Taj Mahal
• Rodney Crowell
• Sarah Jarosz
• Cassandra Wilson
• The Milk Carton Kids
• The Devil Makes Three

THE 2014 AMERICANA MUSIC ASSOCIATION AWARDS NOMINEES

ALBUM OF THE YEAR
• Build Me Up From Bones by Sarah Jarosz
• The Lights From The Chemical Plant by Robert Ellis
• The River And The Thread by Rosanne Cash
• Southeastern by Jason Isbell

ARTIST OF THE YEAR
• Rosanne Cash
• Rodney Crowell
• Robert Ellis
• Jason Isbell

DUO/GROUP OF THE YEAR
• The Avett Brothers
• The Devil Makes Three
• Hard Working Americans
• Lake Street Dive
• The Milk Carton Kids

SONG OF THE YEAR
• “Cover Me Up” by Jason Isbell
• “A Feather’s Not A Bird” by Rosanne Cash
• “Ohio” by Patty Griffin
• “Only Lies” by Robert Ellis

EMERGING ACT OF THE YEAR
• Hurray For The Riff Raff

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114 comments

1 wrenchwench  Sep 17, 2014 5:38:53pm

I caught the last note from two of my faves, Flaco and Ry! Will this be available in recorded form later?

2 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 5:39:35pm

re: #1 wrenchwench

I caught the last note from two of my faves, Flaco and Ry! Will this be available in recorded form later?

Don’t know, but I hope so. Still lots of great music coming up…

3 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 5:44:30pm

Jackson Browne? Holy hell! I’m in.

4 wrenchwench  Sep 17, 2014 5:45:52pm
SONG OF THE YEAR
• “Cover Me Up” by Jason Isbell
• “A Feather’s Not A Bird” by Rosanne Cash
• “Ohio” by Patty Griffin
• “Only Lies” by Robert Ellis

Do I need to hear the other three before I say “Ohio” should win?

No. No, I do not.

5 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 5:48:17pm
6 austin_blue  Sep 17, 2014 5:48:37pm

Evening all!

Call it what you will, trad, roots, Americana, it’s some of the best and most meaningful music out there. Check out the Carolina Chocolate Drops.

That’s the *good* stuff.

7 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 5:50:46pm

If you’ve upgraded to IOS 8 today, you need this… it’s awesome.

8 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 5:52:30pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

If you’ve upgraded to IOS 8 today, you need this… it’s awesome.

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Swipe (drawing a line between letters to form words) has been around for over four years…on Android. Welcome to 2009.

9 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 5:53:59pm

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

10 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 5:54:41pm

re: #8 darthstar

I’m more excited about the intelligent suggestions and vastly improved auto-correct.

11 wrenchwench  Sep 17, 2014 5:55:11pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

{{{teleskiguy}}}

12 austin_blue  Sep 17, 2014 5:56:13pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

{{dude}}

My deepest condolences.

13 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 5:57:03pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

So sorry.

14 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 5:57:28pm

L o v e her hair!

15 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 5:57:36pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Sorry to hear that - my condolences too.

Napoleon Murphy Brock was a singer in the George Duke Band as well for a couple of years. Great guy.

16 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 17, 2014 5:57:59pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

{{{teleskiguy}}}

17 nsmith25  Sep 17, 2014 5:58:24pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

Condolences to you.

18 wrenchwench  Sep 17, 2014 5:59:06pm

Ry’s in the house band, so he’ll be up there some more.

I gotta go.

Later, lizards.

19 A Mom Anon  Sep 17, 2014 6:00:12pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

I just went through this too, it’s barely been a month and I keep catching myself wanting to post on his Facebook page or call him. Sigh. It sucks. I’m sorry for your loss, 35 is just too fucking young. (((hugs)))

20 thedopefishlives  Sep 17, 2014 6:01:36pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

{{{ski}}}

It’s always tough when we lose a friend. Tougher still when they’re that young. Toughest of all when you’re the one everyone leans on to be the emotional stability in the turmoil of loss. I don’t know if that’s you, but either way - my sincerest condolences.

21 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:02:26pm

Thank you all. I finally broke down crying just now. Cory was a true mensch, the world is a little less fun today.

Thank you all again. It’s comforting to know that even though we’re all strangers, we’re all friends too. Thanks for all the hugs.

22 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 6:05:45pm
23 thedopefishlives  Sep 17, 2014 6:06:11pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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That explains a lot, actually.

24 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:06:27pm

I’m gonna leave this here. It’s a music thread, I think it’s appropriate.

Cory James Dedering 1978-2014

25 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:07:13pm

His birthday is on Friday.

:(

26 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 6:08:25pm

The Lie That Will Not Die

27 Belafon  Sep 17, 2014 6:11:38pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

And that’s why he’ll always hunt the dragons rather than learn to ride them.

28 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 6:19:20pm

Thanks Charles for streaming this.

29 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 6:25:53pm

Robert Plant is not doing very well here.

30 nsmith25  Sep 17, 2014 6:29:00pm

Yeah, we elected a Blah guy president, so racism is dead//

31 austin_blue  Sep 17, 2014 6:30:18pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Robert Plant is not doing very well here.

This is what happens when you split with Patty Griffin and leave Austin. Karma Music Gods.

32 alpuz  Sep 17, 2014 6:33:36pm

Missed the 90’s music thread. Always love this one.

Youtube Video

Yo, teleskiguy. I lost some good friends that were incredibly great people at a very young age. Be well, I feel ya.

33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 17, 2014 6:34:19pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

If you’ve upgraded to IOS 8 today, you need this… it’s awesome.

[Embedded content]

I have used {Android} SwiftKey for about 3 years, and its prediction engine is downright scary sometimes. There have been times when I’ve entered entire paragraphs (albeit short ones) by just continually tapping the predicted word button, because it was exactly what I was going to type anyway.

34 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 6:36:48pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I’m more excited about the intelligent suggestions and vastly improved auto-correct.

I like that about my android. If I’m typing, say, a message and accidentally hit the home button, when I go back later and start typing the same tweet, the suggested text remembers the last sequence of words I used and, if I use the same ones as before, can tap-tap-tap the message/email/tweet in a few seconds. Also good when texting two different people about meeting up without wanting to join the two in the same conversation as they’ll start talking to each other for days in that thread and you have to listen to the whole thing.

35 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 6:38:19pm

Heh.

36 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:38:52pm

Hard Working Americans! They played their first show in Boulder for the flood relief concert.

37 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:40:01pm

Charles, thank you. This live stream is just what the doctor ordered.

38 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 6:42:03pm

Beautiful tone coming out of Duane Trucks’s Telecaster.

39 Cheechako  Sep 17, 2014 6:43:21pm

Weirdest news story of the day:

Sheriff: Burned armpit hair led to Idaho car crash

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — A car full of teenagers crashed in Idaho after one of the passengers lit the driver’s armpit hair on fire with a lighter, authorities said Wednesday.

All five young people in the Ford Bronco were hurt in the crash Sunday and received medical treatment, the Ada County Sheriff’s Office said.

Two of the passengers, ages 15 and 16, were thrown from the vehicle, but none of the five suffered life-threatening injuries.

The sheriff’s department said the rollover occurred after a 16-year-old boy was goofing off in the front seat and lit 18-year-old Tristian Myers’ armpit hair on fire while Myers was driving. The crash happened at about 5:30 a.m. in southeast Boise.

Deputies cited Myers with inattentive driving, while the 16-year-old was cited for interfering with the driver’s safety. The passenger’s name wasn’t released. A 17-year old also was in the front seat but was not cited.

Deputies also said none of the teens was wearing a seatbelt, and there was evidence Myers was driving too fast.

A court date will be scheduled later for Myers, who has no listed phone number. It was not immediately clear if he had an attorney.

40 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 6:44:54pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I have used {Android} SwiftKey for about 3 years, and its prediction engine is downright scary sometimes. There have been times when I’ve entered entire paragraphs (albeit short ones) by just continually tapping the predicted word button, because it was exactly what I was going to type anyway.

Yes, but on iOS8, when you type, “I think I’ll go see a movie this weekend” it writes “I think I’ll go see a movie this weekend and drink a Coca Cola”

41 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 6:46:11pm

Wow, Duane Trucks’s singer just apparently quit on stage.

42 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 6:46:45pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

Beautiful tone coming out of Duane Trucks’s Telecaster.

Holy crap…just started the stream…they’re playing GOOD music!
Buh-bye Rachel…streaming now.

43 Belafon  Sep 17, 2014 6:49:35pm

re: #40 darthstar

And then Cortana replies “Are you sure? None of the movies coming out this weekend are your type of movie.”

(I own an android phone, but the Windows phone commercials are funny because Cortana is the name of the AI in Halo.)

44 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 6:55:09pm

SMOTI found another site that totally plagiarized his idea from PROGS TODAY

45 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 6:55:27pm

The Milk Carton Kids are great.

46 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 6:56:04pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The Milk Carton Kids are great.

They are.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 7:04:22pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Thank you alpuz, Mattand and Bubblehead II for the condolences downstairs. This is the second sudden death of a friend in three weeks. Cory was only 35. He took me to my first Umphrey’s McGee show, he turned me on to Ween, John Scofield, old Butthole Surfers. We went to Zappa Plays Zappa together when it was the all-star line-up (Vai, Bozzio, Murphy-Brock). We were even in a band together for a time (he was a great drummer!). I already miss him so.

:(

I’m sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace.

48 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:04:25pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The Milk Carton Kids are great.

This guy singing right now isn’t bad either.

49 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 7:05:53pm

Wow, St. Paul and the Broken Bones just killed it.

50 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:07:41pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Wow, St. Paul and the Broken Bones just killed it.

Yep. That’s what I love about independent musicians - they’re mucisians…these guys added a minute of improvisation to their performance…you don’t see that from pop bands.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 7:08:01pm

re: #44 Pie-onist Overlord

SMOTI found another site that totally plagiarized his idea from PROGS TODAY

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A site that links to Jew-hater Stephen Walt and the dudebro Coner Friedersdorf is a poor quality site, but Dim Jim should get the tree trunk out of his own eye before worrying about the stick in someone else’s.

52 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 7:08:33pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Wow, St. Paul and the Broken Bones just killed it.

Beautiful performance.

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 7:09:51pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

A site that links to Jew-hater Stephen Walt and the dudebro Coner Friedersdorf is a poor quality site, but Dim Jim should get the tree trunk out of his own eye before worrying about the stick in someone else’s.

Well I did not click through to read that site but I found it amusing that SMOTI is all bent up because some site is “pretending” to be Conservative to suck in wingnut clicks when he does the same thing with lame Progs Today

54 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:13:21pm

I’m not seeing how Jackson Browne is going to fit this show. Anyone know?

55 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:13:38pm

Interesting…started streaming it via LGF on my S4, so I could hear it through my jambox, and it’s two minutes ahead of the web browser.

56 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 7:14:24pm

Texas just executed a woman for child abuse

57 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 7:15:06pm

re: #39 Cheechako

Weirdest news story of the day:

58 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 7:16:49pm

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

Texas just executed a woman for child abuse

[raises eyebrows]

59 Belafon  Sep 17, 2014 7:18:35pm

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve gotten to where I think keeping people alive is better punishment, but:

Coleman, 38, was sentenced to death after being found guilty of murdering Davontae Williams, her partner’s nine-year-old son, a decade ago. Davontae was emaciated, weighing 35 pounds at the time of his death in 2004, and had multiple injuries on his body. Coleman and Marcella Williams, her longtime girlfriend, had restrained him and deprived him of food, according to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.

61 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 7:19:36pm

re: #59 Belafon

I’ve gotten to where I think keeping people alive is better punishment, but:

Do you think she would have been executed if she was white?

62 Belafon  Sep 17, 2014 7:20:34pm

re: #61 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s Texas we’re talking about. They executed that white guy for burning his kids even though everyone was screaming that the investigation was flawed.

63 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:20:35pm

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

Texas just executed a woman for child abuse

She couldn’t run the 40 in 4.3 seconds.

64 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 7:20:52pm

It sounds like she was mentally ill, and where was Child Protective Services?

65 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 17, 2014 7:21:44pm

Forget it Jack, it’s Texas.

66 Belafon  Sep 17, 2014 7:22:01pm

re: #64 Pie-onist Overlord

Half the job of CPS here in Texas is to protect the reputation of the state.

Edit: And what I mean by that is, if ignoring it will make it go away, they will. (And before everyone goes nuts, I’m not talking about all CPS workers, since know a few. It depends on where they are and who the children are.)

67 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 17, 2014 7:25:27pm

Historical note of the day:

On this day in 1716, 18 year old Jean Thurel enlisted in the army of the King of France. He would serve until his death on March 10, 1807 aged 108. His service with the Régiment de Touraine for 90 years and 6 months as a common fusilier, fighting in numerous wars, will probably remain unequaled.

68 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:29:00pm

BTW, I fuckin’ love Elizabeth Cook. Listen to her “Apron Strings” morning show on Sirius Outlaw Country every morning. Saw her in Reno/Sparks once playing in the casino bar after a Merle Haggard/Kris Kristofferson show.

If you get a chance to listen to her in the morning, do it…she’s a hoot.

69 WhatEVs  Sep 17, 2014 7:29:13pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

I’m so very sorry for your loss.

70 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:30:32pm

Okay…this gal’s drunk.

71 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:31:35pm

re: #70 darthstar

Okay…this gal’s drunk.

She’s just really really Southern.

72 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:32:12pm

Oh, OK. Drunk. She stuck her tongue out.

73 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 7:32:14pm

re: #61 Pie-onist Overlord

Do you think she would have been executed if she was white?

In this case? Yes. If you do something as bad as what she did and you already have a criminal record, Texas is going to execute you no matter what color your skin is.

74 Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2014 7:33:02pm

re: #67 William Barnett-Lewis

Historical note of the day:

On this day in 1716, 18 year old Jean Thurel enlisted in the army of the King of France. He would serve until his death on March 10, 1807 aged 108. His service with the Régiment de Touraine for 90 years and 6 months as a common fusilier, fighting in numerous wars, will probably remain unequaled.

“When’s your ETS?”
“1807. I got 32,850 and a wake-up”
“Bummer, Jean.”

75 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:36:39pm

Yep, this is the Jackson Browne award. Got it.

76 dog philosopher  Sep 17, 2014 7:39:05pm

not sure why the dem generic congressional vote has taken such a nosedive in the past week or so

77 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:41:35pm

re: #76 dog philosopher

not sure why the dem generic congressional vote has taken such a nosedive in the past week or so

It fits the narrative.

78 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:43:11pm

Okay…that’s fuckin’ great. Stop and tune so it sounds right.

79 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:46:12pm

omg. omg.

80 stpaulbear  Sep 17, 2014 7:47:10pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Wow, Duane Trucks’s singer just apparently quit on stage.

More dirty laundry please. What happened?

My fave on the stage is Rodney Crowell but his albums have become a bit crotchety for mass audiences over the last decade. I still love them. I’m getting crotchety too.

Interesting that Rodney and Rosanne are in competition for best song. I hope he doesn’t sing the song ‘Please, Remember Me’.

81 dog philosopher  Sep 17, 2014 7:47:22pm

freeps and fox are against the scots independence

therefore it must be a good thing

82 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 7:47:43pm
83 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 17, 2014 7:48:39pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

“When’s your ETS?”
“1807. I got 32,850 and a wake-up”
“Bummer, Jean.”

the worst part… he was involuntarily extended for that last 6 months.

RBS

84 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:52:10pm

Oh gawd I’m dying.

85 ObserverArt  Sep 17, 2014 7:52:54pm

Just tuned into the tune-up. I hope this is available for views later. I want to see some of the early acts all of you are talking about.

86 Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2014 7:54:38pm

Jackson just seems so damn sad.

:(

He should’ve married me.

And with that I’m out.

87 BongCrodny  Sep 17, 2014 7:57:26pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Jesus. Makes you wonder what Hannity’s doing to his own kids.

88 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 17, 2014 8:00:30pm

re: #87 BongCrodny

Jesus. Makes you wonder what Hannity’s doing to his own kids.

Makes you wonder if most conservative talking heads spent their childhood years being afraid of their parents.

89 darthstar  Sep 17, 2014 8:05:55pm

That was fun, Charles…thanks for the link.

90 dog philosopher  Sep 17, 2014 8:06:33pm

re: #88 wheat-dogghazi

Makes you wonder if most conservative talking heads spent their childhood years being afraid of their parents.

i wouldnt doubt it

they cower in front of the powerful and piss on the helpless

91 Kragar  Sep 17, 2014 8:09:17pm

re: #88 wheat-dogghazi

Makes you wonder if most conservative talking heads spent their childhood years being afraid of their parents.

Most of them are sociopaths at the very least

92 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 8:11:20pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

93 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 8:14:05pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

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I believe one can win that award without dying, so long as the accident that earns the award renders the winner unable to reproduce.

94 Varek Raith  Sep 17, 2014 8:25:04pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I believe one can win that award without dying, so long as the accident that earns the award renders the winner unable to reproduce.

Correct.

95 Kragar  Sep 17, 2014 8:26:54pm
96 Kragar  Sep 17, 2014 8:29:39pm
97 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 8:33:11pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

Kragar was all over it on Twitter.

98 Varek Raith  Sep 17, 2014 8:34:41pm

re: #96 Kragar

Ok….

99 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 8:38:55pm

re: #88 wheat-dogghazi

Makes you wonder if most conservative talking heads spent their childhood years being afraid of their parents.

Hannity says he deserved to get beaten:

Fox News host Sean Hannity unbuckled his belt and whacked it Monday night, while demonstrating how he was beaten as a child and defending Minnesota Vikings player Adrian Peterson.

Hannity made the remarks while speaking to a panel on his program ‘Hannity’, which consisted of Mike Bako, Robi Ludwig, and Mercedes Colwin, Mediaite pointed out.

Peterson, a star in the NFL, is accused of beating two of his children.

‘I got hit with a strap, bam, bam, bam, and I’ve never been to a shrink, by my father,’ Hannity said while starting the discussion. ‘I would tell you I deserved it. I think he went too far, but I don’t want to see this guy get a felony, I don’t want to see this guy lose his job, I don’t want to see this guy - he deserves parenting classes.’

SNIP

When Ludwig spoke about between spanking, child abuse and corporal punishment, Hannity unbuckled his belt from his trousers.

‘I got it like this!,’ he said, while whacking his belt on the table three tames. ‘And I deserved it. I was a troubled kid.’

‘We know better,’ Ludwig said, while Colwin talked about how felony child abuse charges may be brought against a parent.

As Colwin spoke, Hannity repeatedly snapped his belt.

‘So a switch is always wrong in your view?’ he asked after she finished speaking.

‘Yes,’ Colwin said.

100 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 17, 2014 8:44:27pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Ummm, maybe Hannity is revealing a little too much about himself there.

Colwin better steer clear of Hannity.

101 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 8:44:58pm

LGF has been so nice in my time of mourning. Thank you all who gave me condolences. It really means a lot.

102 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 8:45:28pm

re: #100 wheat-dogghazi

Ummm, maybe Hannity is revealing a little too much about himself there.

Colwin Sane people better steer clear of Hannity.

Proposed improvement.

103 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 8:50:36pm

I just checked and it looks like you can still watch the whole show with the embedded video above.

104 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 8:53:03pm
105 WhatEVs  Sep 17, 2014 8:53:06pm

Charles, thanks for the 411 on SwiftKey. Me likely!

106 Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2014 8:53:34pm

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107 ObserverArt  Sep 17, 2014 8:57:01pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

LGF has been so nice in my time of mourning. Thank you all who gave me condolences. It really means a lot.

I want to offer my condolences too. Losing close friends is never easy and at that age makes it even tougher. I’m glad you got to share some tunes with him.

108 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 17, 2014 9:01:48pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Just amazing how our friends shape us.
Bro hugs to you good man.

109 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 17, 2014 9:09:10pm

Yeah the funny thing about getting hit by your parent is your parent is also the person that teaches the parameters of “just” punishment.

First I got spanked for something specific. Hey I deserved it.

Then I got spanked for some reason I couldn’t work out. But Dad was angry, and he was my father, so I must have done something. Did I laugh too loud? Did I talk too much about the wrong subject? Must have been something.

Then I got older, and I got punched or slammed against a wall. Well, it was Dad doing it, I must really be a terrible person. He kept saying “I get angry because I care,” so I felt this great shame that I couldn’t be a good son.

Since this is a personal statement, I’m not going to go into the clinical issues with hitting kids—that punishment-as-learning is actually horribly inexact, that—but I will say this: the reason you shouldn’t hit your kids is you are not as rational, self-controlled, or observant as you imagine yourself. To fuck your kid up forever, all you have to do is mistake anger for clarity.

Earlier today I mentioned the Pearls, who teach corporal punishment. What they don’t teach—and, in my opinion, why their adherents occasionally beat their kids to death—is doubt and mercy. Is your kid not getting it? Hit ‘em again! Still not getting it? They’re willful, again! Their books might not say “go ahead, kill the ungrateful bastards,” but their formulation of discipline doesn’t allow for parents to the ones in the wrong, nor for discipline issues to emanate from something other than defiance.

110 Dark_Falcon  Sep 17, 2014 9:10:28pm

Good Night, All.

111 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 9:13:27pm

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

Just amazing how our friends shape us.
Bro hugs to you good man.

112 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 17, 2014 9:24:32pm

re: #109 The Ghost of a Flea

The Pearls are part of the authoritarianism dominating the fundie movement. Whoever is in charge is always right, be it father, husband or pastor. Children, women and lay people are never in charge, so they can never be right.

As you say, what’s missing is even an ounce of humility in recognizing that sometimes those who are in charge can be wrong, because they are fallible human beings. Fundies only recognize and acknowledge this truth after the fact, when something has horribly gone wrong.

113 Danny  Sep 18, 2014 5:17:12am

re: #1 wrenchwench

It’ll be on Austin City Limits later this year.

114 wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2014 6:43:45am

re: #113 Danny

It’ll be on Austin City Limits later this year.

Thank you!


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