Hannity Removes Belt and Smacks It on Desk During Segment on Peterson

Hannity defends child abuse on Fox News
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In this clip, Sean Hannity says his father beat him with a belt and even punched him in the face, but he’s “never been to a shrink” and he’s just fine. And he demonstrates by taking off his belt and slamming it on the desk.

No. This is not a person who is fine. But it goes a long way toward explaining why his world view is so warped.

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1 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sep 17, 2014 9:26:45pm

My dad whipped me with a belt and yes even slapped me across the face (mom as well), yet I didn’t turn into an asshole.

Then again I didn’t have the conservative Catholic upbringing that this dipshit did either.

2 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 17, 2014 9:31:42pm

As I just said in the last thread, Hannity reveals quite a lot about himself here. There’s a lot of anger and resentment brewing under that smug exterior.

He needs to see a shrink. Soon.

3 Kragar  Sep 17, 2014 9:38:10pm

Far from fine.

4 Kid A  Sep 17, 2014 9:40:15pm

Gateway douche is reporting that four terrorists were caught at the Texas border on 9/10 of this year. He quotes Rep. Chaffetz as saying this:

“There were actually four individuals trying to cross through the Texas border, who were apprehended at two different stations, that do have ties to known terrorist organizations in the Middle East.”

Here’s what he really said:

My concern is that I have reason to believe there were actually four individuals trying to cross through the Texas border, who were apprehended at two different stations, that do have ties to known terrorist organizations in the Middle East.”

Dim Jim lies again.

5 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 17, 2014 9:43:57pm

I addition to what I said in the previous thread, I want to add this: Hannity seems to lack the self-reflection to wonder why, if getting hit with a belt was such a tonic for his flaws, his bad behavior escalated to the point that he got punched in the mouth.

This is something I’ve had to look back on my own life and realize: I learned nothing from getting hit except to be scared. The premise that it “taught” me things just doesn’t match with reality. And in turn, I can’t look at how I was hit and claim that the idea was to instruct me in anything specific.

6 klys  Sep 17, 2014 9:45:19pm

re: #4 Kid A

Gateway douche is reporting that four terrorists were caught at the Texas border on 9/10 of this year. He quotes Rep. Chaffetz as saying this:

Here’s what he really said:

<blockqoute>”My concern is that I have reason to believe there were actually four individuals trying to cross through the Texas border, who were apprehended at two different stations, that do have ties to known terrorist organizations in the Middle East.”</blockqoute>

Dim Jim lies again.

How many weasel words can possibly be fit in a sentence and yet conveniently eliminated?

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 17, 2014 9:45:48pm

Hanity reminds me of nothing so much as the psychotic teacher from the movie of The Wall.

Phone keyboards… Sheesh…

8 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 17, 2014 9:46:48pm

Sorry, Hannity, but you being a victim of child abuse doesn’t excuse anything. Also, you’re a wreck of a human being because of it.

9 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 17, 2014 9:47:07pm

re: #7 William Barnett-Lewis

Hanging reminds me of nothing so much as the psychotic teacher from the movie of The Wall.

Autocorrect does it again: Hannity —> hanging

10 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2014 9:49:30pm

Yet Hannity is too much of a chickenshit to get waterboarded.

11 Kid A  Sep 17, 2014 9:51:27pm

By the way, there is zero proof that ANY terrorists were caught at the Texas border on 9/10 of this year. ZERO. This story is total bullshit. Charles, please call him out on this bullshit misquote of his.

12 sagehen  Sep 17, 2014 9:57:42pm

So what time do the polls open in Scotland?

13 Tigger2005  Sep 17, 2014 10:05:25pm

re:

14 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 10:08:03pm

re: #10 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet Hannity is too much of a chickenshit to get waterboarded.

The late Christopher Hitchens endured as such.

vanityfair.com

15 Tigger2005  Sep 17, 2014 10:09:39pm

re: #1 subterraneanhomesickalien
Have you ever asked yourself if you would have turned out any different if your parents had just spanked you, or had used firm, consistent non-corporal punishment? We need to stop using this “My parents whipped me with a weapon and I turned out fine, no mental problems” excuse. That YOU lucked out by not being traumatized and psychologically scarred does not make it OK.

16 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 17, 2014 10:13:41pm

re: #15 Tigger2005

…not being traumatized and psychologically scarred…

Assumes facts not in evidence.

17 Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2014 10:14:37pm

I’ve lost the number of times I’ve been told that corporal punishment instills “discipline.” No, it instills two things in kids: fear and anger. Fear of further punishment and anger at their parents for hurting them. It does not work for the same reason torture does not produce reliable results, namely that when you’re hurting that kid, he’ll agree to anything to make it stop. I was spanked when I broke the rules, by hand and with a belt, and all it ever did was convince me to look for ways to break the rules without getting caught.

18 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 17, 2014 10:15:01pm

re: #15 Tigger2005

O, hai. Have you read Carrier’s latest book?

19 Tigger2005  Sep 17, 2014 10:21:58pm

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well, I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

20 Tigger2005  Sep 17, 2014 10:22:32pm

re: #18 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Who, Richard Carrier?

21 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 17, 2014 10:23:15pm

re: #20 Tigger2005

Yep.

22 William of Orange  Sep 17, 2014 10:36:08pm

Giving a child discipline with some form of punishment I can even defend. Parent should not be overpowered by their children. Parents need to show who is the boss in the house..

In Hanitty’s case I would make an exception. His father was much too lenient with the whip. He should have hit a lot harder.

23 EPR-radar  Sep 17, 2014 10:37:35pm

A child being terrorized by an abusive father is, by itself, 80% or more of the conservative world view.

It would be funny if they weren’t so intent on sharing their damage with all.

24 EPR-radar  Sep 17, 2014 10:38:49pm

re: #22 William of Orange

Giving a child discipline with some form of punishment I can even defend. Parent should not be overpowered by their children. Parents need to show who is the boss in the house..

In Hanitty’s case I would make an exception. His father was much too lenient with the whip. He should have hit a lot harder.

I have to down ding this. Even for a crap stain like Hannity, the idea of beating him into shape as a child is inherently unacceptable.

25 teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2014 10:46:52pm

re: #22 William of Orange

In Hanitty’s case I would make an exception. His father was much too lenient with the whip. He should have hit a lot harder.

No. Just, no. Wishing harm on another fellow human, you’re sinking to their level.

NO!

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2014 10:50:38pm

I was spanked as a child. Most parents I know spank on occasion. There’s nothing wrong with that. The problem comes when the corrective action becomes abusive and excessive.

It seems like some parents don’t know where to draw the line.

27 EPR-radar  Sep 17, 2014 11:07:57pm

WBL, is the down ding of #24 real or not?

28 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 17, 2014 11:09:13pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

WBL, is the down ding of #24 real or not?

Phone ding. Sorry.

29 TedStriker  Sep 17, 2014 11:33:35pm

re: #22 William of Orange

Giving a child discipline with some form of punishment I can even defend. Parent should not be overpowered by their children. Parents need to show who is the boss in the house..

In Hanitty’s case I would make an exception. His father was much too lenient with the whip. He should have hit a lot harder.

WTFITS?!?

More to the point, WTF is wrong with you?

30 Amory Blaine  Sep 17, 2014 11:43:18pm

Groups appeal voter ID ruling, allege ‘eleventh-hour’ changes will disenfranchise thousands

An emergency appeal filed late Tuesday argues that reinstating the requirement to show a government-issued photo ID to vote in the Nov. 4 election “imposes a radical, last-minute change” to an election “that is already underway.”

Plaintiffs challenging the revived voter ID requirement said during a press call Wednesday that the process announced by the state late last week to provide free identification to potentially thousands of voters does little to help those born outside of Wisconsin.

While the state has created an expedited process for the state Department of Health Services to provide free proof of birth to residents born in Wisconsin, there is no similar process for people born in other states or countries, the plaintiffs charged.

31 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 17, 2014 11:44:06pm

re: #29 TedStriker

WTFITS?!?

Given his usual postings, I’ll bet sarc tags should have been used.

32 Swift2991  Sep 17, 2014 11:51:36pm

I was spanked exactly once, because I had just floated off to my friend’s house to play with his model airplanes. I was seven and it was a big adventure. When my mother tracked me down, it was dark. She was so distraught that she paddled me on the fanny. It didn’t hurt, but to see her face, so terrified of what could have happened to me, how much she worried about what happened to her son — I was never late or irresponsible — that I started crying for that. In other words, the physical “discipline” was a joke in her case. I had been bad, I realized. This was being bad, and I was so sorry.

The physical pain does nothing. Later in school, I got “the strap” once in about 5th grade. A slice of a rubber tire, right on the outstretched hand. Now that hurt. So, what was a boy to do? You put your hand out there, and you didn’t flinch. It didn’t matter to you. YOU DON’T CRY. YOU DON’T CARE. Then, when it was done, 10 strokes on each hand, you went back to your desk. You were allowed to put your stinging hands on the desk, which cooled them. And you seethed inside, discovering an inner anger for the first time. What had I done? It was a group punishment. The parish priest came to religion class, and we had to repeat the catechism answers we were supposed to learn the night before. I got two, but missed the third. So, to teach us a LESSON, most of the class got a beating. Yeah, I got taught a lesson, all right. In senseless cruelty and a ridiculous idea of what religion is. But I didn’t care. And I didn’t cry. And the priests were monsters.

33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 12:45:12am

When Americans are not busy telling each other what to eat or drink or who to have sex with and how, we like to lecture people on how to raise their children.

34 Frenchy  Sep 18, 2014 1:24:24am

If the guy would just see a shrink already, then maybe he could start to undo the damage that’s clearly been done, and spare the rest of us from his constant drivel.

35 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 1:30:45am

The GOP’s inclusive Big Tent re-branding just doesn’t seem to be working for some reason…

Frequent Golfers?

36 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 1:33:36am

re: #12 sagehen

So what time do the polls open in Scotland?

Voting is already underway. Polls will be open until 22:00 GMT tonight, and the results are expected by tomorrow morning here in Europe.

Hard to say at this point which way it’s going to go - polling seems to show the vote is almost evenly divided, and within the statistical margin of error.

bbc.com

Edit to add that very high turnout is expected as 97% of eligible voters in Scotland have registered to vote in this referendum.

37 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 1:35:43am

re: #35 ausador

Missed any?

How about victims of rape and abuse (at least the one who speak out against it for themselves and others)?

38 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 1:40:55am

Around 10:00 P.M. Central European Time, I’ll put up a page with a link to live coverage of the referendum results. I’m not going to stay up to watch it, as I have work tomorrow, but Lizards in the US and other parts of the world can follow it as the results come in overnight.

39 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 1:47:42am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Around 10:00 P.M. Central European Time, I’ll put up a page with a link to live coverage of the referendum results. I’m not going to stay up to watch it, as I have work tomorrow, but Lizards in the US and other parts of the world can follow it as the results come in overnight.

I will certainly check in when I get off work this evening…I got relatives over there, it has been a major topic of discussion lately.

40 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 2:04:44am

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

Voting is already underway. Polls will be open until 22:00 GMT tonight, and the results are expected by tomorrow morning here in Europe.

Hard to say at this point which way it’s going to go - polling seems to show the vote is almost evenly divided, and within the statistical margin of error.

bbc.com

Edit to add that very high turnout is expected as 97% of eligible voters in Scotland have registered to vote in this referendum.

Also the mail-in ballots which have already been sent in should account for about a sixth of the total ballots. (680,000 of 4.3 million)

Voting for the referendum commenced on 27 August 2014, with the receipt of ballots by postal voters. As of 15 August, 680,235 eligible voters had registered for postal voting, a 20% increase compared to March 2014.

41 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 18, 2014 2:19:31am

Adults, like Hannity, who lead productive and relatively happy lives, don’t do so because they were beat as children, but in spite of it.

42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 2:24:57am
43 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 2:25:17am

What could go wrong…?

44 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 2:26:50am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will certainly check in when I get off work this evening…I got relatives over there, it has been a major topic of discussion lately.

Yep, this is certainly one of those momentous events, that’s for sure. I can’t predict which way the vote will go, but I think it’s safe to say that if the Scots vote “yes” for independence, there will be blood much butthurt in the London-based media tomorrow.

And I think there’s a chance PM Cameron could be under very intense pressure to step down under that scenario.

45 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 2:32:39am

What things might look like if all the various European Free Alliance parties were successful at gaining independence as Scotland may today.

46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 2:34:51am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Yep, this is certainly one of those momentous events, that’s for sure. I can’t predict which way the vote will go, but I think it’s safe to say that if the Scots vote “yes” for independence, there will be blood much butthurt in the London-based media tomorrow.

And I think there’s a chance PM Cameron could be under very intense pressure to step down under that scenario.

I quite simply doubt there will be a “yes” outcome, after all, if voting could change things, people would not be allowed to vote!

47 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 2:42:34am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Yep, this is certainly one of those momentous events, that’s for sure. I can’t predict which way the vote will go, but I think it’s safe to say that if the Scots vote “yes” for independence, there will be blood much butthurt in the London-based media tomorrow.

And I think there’s a chance PM Cameron could be under very intense pressure to step down under that scenario.

Tomorrow the Rightwingers here will of course blame the whole thing on Obama whichever way the vote goes, more so if the vote is yes though. They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

I guess they are too stupid to realize how counterproductive it would have been for us to try to tell the Scots what to do. Had one guy tell me that Bush would have gone over there to talk to them himself. My response was “only if he had wanted to ensure a massive surge in the number of yes votes.” :D

48 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 2:44:03am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I quite simply doubt there will be a “yes” outcome, after all, if voting could change things, people would not be allowed to vote!

Step away from the twitter son, them libertarians is damaging your brain…

/

49 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 2:45:04am

re: #47 ausador

They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

How does one “intervene” in a democratic referendum? They’re clueless fucks.

50 goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2014 2:46:06am
A wealthy hedge-fund titan made a bungled attempt to defend himself against a claim that he fondled a waitress at a trendy Soho restaurant, by bizarrely bragging that he gropes other women all the time.

“I clearly remember making a joke when the girl said, ‘What would you like,’ ” he said. “I kiddingly said, ‘I would like you to go with nothing on it.’ ”

He said he was furious that she claimed he did more than spew sleaze.

That f-king c-t, for her to do something like that is pretty ridiculous,” he told The Post.

“I will make sure she doesn’t get another job in New York City. I know everybody,” he raged. “The bar owners, the club owners — that’s a terrible thing to write about somebody.”

Stay Classy

51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 2:50:40am

re: #47 ausador

Tomorrow the Rightwingers here will of course blame the whole thing on Obama whichever way the vote goes, more so if the vote is yes though. They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

clickhole.com

52 goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2014 2:52:34am

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

He should have told her that he was kind of a big deal, and then if that didn’t work called her a smelly pirate hooker.

They’ve done studies. Sixty percent of the time, that works every time.

53 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 2:54:02am

re: #47 ausador

Tomorrow the Rightwingers here will of course blame the whole thing on Obama whichever way the vote goes, more so if the vote is yes though. They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

I guess they are too stupid to realize how counterproductive it would have been for us to try to tell the Scots what to do. Had one guy tell me that Bush would have gone over there to talk to them himself. My response was “only if he had wanted to ensure a massive surge in the number of yes votes.” :D

Probably. And as always failing to grasp that it’s not President Obama’s job to “intervene” in what is purely an overseas local decision. After all, he’s not the President of Scotland, is he?

I’ve seen more than a few UK-based commentators laying the blame for this one squarely on PM David Cameron, and I’m sure there will be calls for his resignation from the Conservative Party if indeed Scotland votes to go its own way. Who knows? He may even end up looking down the barrel of a no-confidence vote; that wouldn’t really surprise me much.

Personally, I think Cameron and his advisers may have fatally underestimated Scottish nationalist sentiment. In some ways, the independence referendum can be seen as sort of an ultimate no-confidence vote in his government.

54 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 2:56:26am

Back later….off to teach some kids.

55 goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2014 3:01:54am

re: #47 ausador

Tomorrow the Rightwingers here will of course blame the whole thing on Obama whichever way the vote goes, more so if the vote is yes though. They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

I guess they are too stupid to realize how counterproductive it would have been for us to try to tell the Scots what to do. Had one guy tell me that Bush would have gone over there to talk to them himself. My response was “only if he had wanted to ensure a massive surge in the number of yes votes.” :D

Yes, Obama should have gone over to Glasgow and mansplained them America’s interests in a unified Great Britain. I’m sure that would have been some compelling shit.

John Oliver’s take on that horrid “No” commercial was beautiful.

“It’s so confusing. It hurts my wee head. I’m just a woman, you know, just a pair of ovaries and some bangs. How do I possibly have the mental capacity to pick from one of two options? Put me down for a no and never trust me with an important decision again.”

56 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 3:03:27am

Fresh round of ignorance coming from the holocaust denialists in 3…2…1…

57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 3:05:17am

re: #56 ausador

Whahappened?

58 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 3:11:17am

re: #57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Whahappened?

They finally dug up the location of the gas chambers at Sobibor, the entire camp that was demolished, buried, and planted over by the Germans to hide its existence. Sobibor has been one of the mainstays of denialists because no physical evidence remained and very few camp inmates survived.

None of the Jewish prisoners who worked around the gas chambers survived so there aren’t any firsthand witnesses to the killings besides the Germans who later testified at Nuremberg.
(which denialists claim was compelled false testimony)

59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 3:11:17am

Too bad Scotland vowed to support the sanctions.

60 Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2014 3:11:31am

re: #47 ausador

Tomorrow the Rightwingers here will of course blame the whole thing on Obama whichever way the vote goes, more so if the vote is yes though. They are already complaining about him not trying to “intervene” more forcefully.

I guess they are too stupid to realize how counterproductive it would have been for us to try to tell the Scots what to do. Had one guy tell me that Bush would have gone over there to talk to them himself. My response was “only if he had wanted to ensure a massive surge in the number of yes votes.” :D

“American President Tells Scottish People They Need to Accept British Rule, Vote Against Independence.”

61 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 3:16:50am

re: #58 ausador

Ah, that. Has been addressed in our book. Note that we know that these were gas chambers from the witnesses - the building foundations themselves are unlikely to tell us about the purpose. If we didn’t know what to look for, we wouldn’t know those were gas chambers. So in terms of evidence it’s not much new. It will clarify a few details, of course.

62 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 3:24:21am

re: #60 Targetpractice

“American President Tells Scottish People They Need to Accept British Rule, Vote Against Independence.”

I could see Bush being that dumb*, but not Obama, his only statement has been the tweet:
The UK is an extraordinary partner for America and a force for good in an unstable world. I hope it remains strong, robust and united. -bo

The State Department and administration officials seem to have followed Obama’s lead and have only cautiously hinted that they would prefer to see Scotland remain part of the U.K..

*I can also see Bush being jeered and heckled enormously along with being called out as a “War Criminal” by the Scottish crowd.

63 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 3:39:05am

Some comments on the JPost article:

jpost.com

Some 250,000 Jews were murdered at Sobibor

Actually around 180,000.

Dr. David Silberklang, a senior researcher at the Yad Vashem International Institute for Holocaust research said, “The discovery of the exact location of the gas chambers at the Sobibior Camp is a discovery of the utmost importance in Holocaust research.”

It’s important for the Sobibor research, but it’s of secondary importance for the Holocaust research in general, certainly not of utmost, for it will clarify some details for one camp.

“Finding the exact size of the gas chambers will enable us to understand what their capacity was and from there we can determine a more precise estimation of the number of people killed at the Sobibor Camp,” Silberklang said.

Not true. Estimating the number of victims from maximum capacities (whether of gas chambers or crematoria oven muffles) is the mistake the Soviets made in their initial, wildly inflated assessments, such as 1,500,000 mostly non-Jewish victims of Majdanek (now revised down to 80,000 mostly Jewish victims) and 4,000,000 victims of Auschwitz (now revised to around a million).

The only reliable way to estimate the number of victims is through calculating the balance of the inbound and outbound deportation transports.

The only way the capacity of the gas chambers could influence the already established numbers is if the maximal capacities were too low (IOW, if the chambers were too small, contradicting all Ukrainian and German witnesses), thus necessitating a downward revision - but that would be an absurd and unexpected scenario.

64 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 3:53:39am
“Abe Foxman has been a friend and adviser of mine for a long time. He’s correct, it was a poor choice of words, particularly as he said coming from ‘someone as friendly to the Jewish community and open and tolerant an individual as is Vice President Joe Biden.’ He’s right,” said Biden in a statement provided by his office Wednesday.

jpost.com

65 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:00:42am

sueddeutsche.de

Laut einer Gesprächszusammenfassung des Auswärtigen Dienstes der Europäischen Union, die der Süddeutschen Zeitung vorliegt, berichtete Poroschenko dem EU-Kommissionspräsidenten José Manuel Barroso am vergangenen Freitag während dessen Besuchs in Kiew von den Drohungen. Wörtlich habe Putin zu ihm, Poroschenko, gesagt: “Wenn ich wollte, könnten russische Truppen in zwei Tagen nicht nur in Kiew, sondern auch in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warschau oder Bukarest sein.”

The mad dog should be treated accordingly.

66 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 4:28:33am

re: #65 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

sueddeutsche.de

The mad dog should be treated accordingly.

I don’t think Poland or Nato would be all that happy about that. I also think he overestimates the current Russian ability to achieve a successful outcome from a wholesale European war by quite a lot.

67 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:31:22am

re: #66 ausador

The other mad dictator also overestimated his potential. But being mad, that didn’t matter to him.

68 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:34:46am

Feel-good video of the day:

Youtube Video

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 4:45:08am

Welp, this morning driving into work I was behind a vehicle that had a yellow VA plate with the “Don’t Tread On Me” snake. Is this the standard Virginia plate or is it a special optional plate that Tea Party enthusiasts can enjoy?

Thing is, IT WAS ON A PRIUS!! (the stereotypical LIBRUL vehicle)

I took a picture but can’t post it since it’s inappropriate to post someone’s license plate. I don’t have a good photo editing program here.

70 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 4:48:19am

What is this “propaganda” of which you speak?…

71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:48:43am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe one spouse is a liberal and the other is a conservative./

72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:49:31am

re: #70 ausador

North Korea leads the world in human rights, says report by North Korea:

And we all know that human.

73 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 4:53:23am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

It is a “vanity” plate they charge extra for, Virginia has hundreds of plates just like Florida does. The police despise them…

Plates styles that start with D:
dmv.state.va.us

74 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 4:54:38am


Jesus is right.

75 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 4:57:46am

re: #71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Maybe one spouse is a liberal and the other is a conservative./

I Googled Virginia license plates, and the yellow Gadsden plate is a specialty item not the standard state-issued plate which is white with black lettering. This is a popular item with Tea Party followers.

I thought the car would turn in to our parking lot, but it continued down the road to another facility.

76 sattv4u2  Sep 18, 2014 4:57:54am

re: #73 ausador

It is a “vanity” plate they charge extra for, Virginia has hundreds of plates just like Florida does. The police despise them…

Plates styles that start with D:
dmv.state.va.us

But states coffers love them

DMV’s in each state charge extra for those vanity plates thus raising more revenue

77 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 5:00:35am

I so totally want to Tweet that picture HAHA TEA PARTY WHICH ONE OF YOU DRIVES A PRIUS!!!!! but I can’t because even blurring out the numbers it’s too distinctive.

78 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 5:08:52am
79 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 5:12:27am

Anti-terror operation in Sydney and Brisbane ‘thwarted’ beheading plot

Police say a large-scale anti-terrorism raid in Sydney this morning has foiled a plot to “commit violent acts” in Australia, including a plan to behead a member of the public.

More than 800 officers launched the raids as part of Operation Appleby in suburbs across Sydney’s west and north-west, with a further 70 police involved in raids on properties in Brisbane’s south.

Police said 15 people had been detained in Sydney as part of the operation between NSW officers, the Australian Federal Police and ASIO.

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 5:12:34am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

freedom from the tyranny of trews!

And they’re throwing the cannonballs because the gunpowder was too expensive!
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Aside: Did the audio tour of Edinburgh Castle back in the early 90s. It worked around to the gun that is fired at 1pm every day. And the audio actually stated that they decided to fire it at 1pm since that was cheaper than having to fire 12 charges if they had opted for noon.

81 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 5:13:16am

You know, I’ve said I don’t particularly like Mark Warner before and my opinion hasn’t changed:

Sen. Mark Warner apparently hates wasted paper - and with his initiative to eliminate or revise more than 50 unnecessary, outdated or redundant reports by federal agencies to Congress, he’s found plenty of agreement on Capitol Hill. In a unanimous vote, the Senate passed a House of Representatives version of his proposal this week.

“Continuing to produce outdated or duplicate government reports year after year is a waste of time and taxpayer money. This represents a solid start, and I am grateful to see such strong bipartisan support for eliminating or modifying at least 50 of them,” Warner said. “Federal agencies should be focused on delivering results for taxpayers instead of wasting time and resources producing reports that nobody uses or even reads.”

dailypress.com

Yeah folks, that’s really going to balance the budget. And how dare those federal agencies prepare reports that Congress mandated they prepare?

82 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 5:16:43am
83 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 5:18:12am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

Welp, this morning driving into work I was behind a vehicle that had a yellow VA plate with the “Don’t Tread On Me” snake. Is this the standard Virginia plate or is it a special optional plate that Tea Party enthusiasts can enjoy?

Thing it, IT WAS ON A PRIUS!! (the stereotypical LIBRUL vehicle)

I took a picture but can’t post it since it’s inappropriate to post someone’s license plate. I don’t have a good photo editing program here.

I posted a tea party license plate from here in Virginia a week or two ago with the tag intact (of course, the tag was “CSA VMI” which was the point of posting it).

I didn’t get in any trouble I don’t think.

84 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 5:19:22am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Probably. And as always failing to grasp that it’s not President Obama’s job to “intervene” in what is purely an overseas local decision. After all, he’s not the President of Scotland, is he?

I’ve seen more than a few UK-based commentators laying the blame for this one squarely on PM David Cameron, and I’m sure there will be calls for his resignation from the Conservative Party if indeed Scotland votes to go its own way. Who knows? He may even end up looking down the barrel of a no-confidence vote; that wouldn’t really surprise me much.

Personally, I think Cameron and his advisers may have fatally underestimated Scottish nationalist sentiment. In some ways, the independence referendum can be seen as sort of an ultimate no-confidence vote in his government.

Has anyone polled what the blancmanges from the planet Skyron in the galaxy of Andromeda think of the issue? I’d think they could be quite influential in the results.
/ ;)

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 5:21:32am

Estates of less than $5 million are already exempt from the estate tax, so who is AFP protecting here?

86 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:22:04am

re: #22 William of Orange

Giving a child discipline with some form of punishment I can even defend. Parent should not be overpowered by their children. Parents need to show who is the boss in the house..

In Hanitty’s case I would make an exception. His father was much too lenient with the whip. He should have hit a lot harder.

No, sir. Hannity was punished in ways a child should not be punished in. I do defend corporal punishment, since I do believe without it I would have been an ungovernable monster as a child. But I do NOT defend the actions of Hannity pere nor those of Adrian Peterson.

I do, however, feel some sympathy towards Sean Hannity and Adrian Peterson, because the ways their fathers disciplined them messed them up in ways they don’t understand.

87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:28:27am

88 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:28:45am

re: #79 ausador

Anti-terror operation in Sydney and Brisbane ‘thwarted’ beheading plot

This is the sort of photo would-be jihadis need to see:

Image: 5752014-4x3-940x705.jpg

The would-be terrorist stripped of any possible weapon, on the ground with his head bowed, guarded by heavily armed and armored police.

Message would-be jihadis: This is the fate of those who would attack Australia or its allies. Avoid it.

89 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 5:29:00am

Let’s see if the third time requesting to be removed from the DCCC’s and the DLCC’s e-mail list will finally, actually, get me removed.

90 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 5:30:06am

Anyone else that has downloaded the new iOS notice lag problems with Safari?

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 5:30:25am

I knew they would pull out this bogus “family farm” bullshit

92 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 5:31:17am

re: #83 Timothy Watson

I posted a tea party license plate from here in Virginia a week or two ago with the tag intact (of course, the tag was “CSA VMI” which was the point of posting it).

I don’t get in any trouble I don’t think.

Teapartier driving a union made car?!?!? FRAUD!!

93 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:34:21am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

I knew they would pull out this bogus “family farm” bullshit

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94 b.d.  Sep 18, 2014 5:34:37am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

I knew they would pull out this bogus “family farm” bullshit

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FAMILY FARM! JUST LIKE KOCH INDUSTRIES IS A FAMILY BUSINESS!!!

95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 5:37:14am

I have lost it and smacked my kids (I still feel bad about that) but would never have the premeditation to belt them.

My mom used a wooden spoon on me, but only for extreme situations like flooding the garage or dismantling a live light switch…

96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:37:49am

It is interesting how putinofascists have parasitically attached themselves to the Scotland independence cause. One needs just to take a look at the twitter of one of the main online propagandists:

twitter.com

The logic is primitive: if Scotland can, why not Donbass and Crimea? That there is no analogy whatsoever doesn’t deter them.

97 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:40:53am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

Teapartier driving a union made car?!?!? FRAUD!!

By that logic, Charles and David and David Koch are the enemy of the Tea Party, since around 36% of the employees of Koch Industries are part of a union. The truck drivers for Koch Transportation, for example, are Teamsters.

I know you’re kidding, but it bears saying.

98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 5:40:59am

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It is interesting how putinofascists have parasitically attached themselves to the Scotland independence cause. One needs just to take a look at the twitter of one of the main online propagandists:

twitter.com

The logic is primitive: if Scotland can, why not Donbass and Crimea? That there is no analogy whatsoever doesn’t deter them.

And why not South Carolina and Mississippi?

99 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:41:32am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As I have said before, I can see how a form of corporal punishment can be justified (e.g. towards kids that bully other kids). It doesn’t mean that anything goes or that the Bible’s savage advice is relevant in today’s world.

100 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:42:02am

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It is interesting how putinofascists have parasitically attached themselves to the Scotland independence cause. One needs just to take a look at the twitter of one of the main online propagandists:

twitter.com

The logic is primitive: if Scotland can, why not Donbass and Crimea? That there is no analogy whatsoever doesn’t deter them.

They aren’t motivated by logic, they’re just using the Scottish referendum as cover.

101 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:42:05am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Have you seen “Novorossiya’s” flag?

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 5:43:11am

re: #101 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Have you seen “Novorossiya’s” flag?

With the Cross of St Andrew? Just like Scotland and the Confederate Battle Flag!

103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:44:00am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, copied from the Confederate flag.

104 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 5:44:08am

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

By that logic, Charles and David and David Koch are the enemy of the Tea Party, since around 36% of the employees of Koch Industries are part of a union. The truck drivers for Koch Transportation, for example, are Teamsters.

I know you’re kidding, but it bears saying.

And how hard did they fight to prevent the formation of those unions?

105 Danny  Sep 18, 2014 5:45:08am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

I knew they would pull out this bogus “family farm” bullshit

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My inlaws lost their farm due to the death tax back when it was lower. Why they didn’t set up a trust is beyond me.

106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 5:45:24am

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yes, copied from the Confederate flag.

They can argue that it is based on the old Russian national flag, but I aure that the coincidence is intended.

107 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:45:29am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And why not South Carolina and Mississippi?

Here’s why:

Youtube Video

108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:46:02am

Regardless of what one thinks about the end result, the Scottish referendum is a shining example of how these things should be done. There have been no referendums in Crimea and Donbass. What they call “referendums” - aren’t.

109 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:46:26am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The colors are a giveaway.

110 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 5:47:58am

The new laptop has just arrived.

111 Ryan King  Sep 18, 2014 5:49:07am

re: #110 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The new laptop has just arrived.

I got you beat: just got two new laptops.

(but they’re cheapos for employees)

112 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:49:48am

re: #104 Timothy Watson

And how hard did they fight to prevent the formation of those unions?

In the case of the truckers, I don’t believe they did. But energy and refining companies often get along well with the Teamsters. They need skilled drivers and their expansion in the US in the past 12 or so years has brought the Teamsters a influx of new members.

113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 18, 2014 5:50:50am

re: #109 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The colors are a giveaway.

114 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 5:51:55am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

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Is the Hello Kitty Confederation attempting to break away from the Republic of My Little Pony?
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115 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:53:06am

re: #108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Regardless of what one thinks about the end result, the Scottish referendum is a shining example of how these things should be done. There have been no referendums in Crimea and Donbass. What they call “referendums” - aren’t.

Favorited, because that can’t be said enough. I hope Scotland votes to stay in the UK, but whatever the outcome it will have been reached freely and fairly.

116 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 5:55:26am

re: #114 Feline Fearless Leader

Is the Hello Kitty Confederation attempting to break away from the Republic of My Little Pony?
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Yes. Hello Kitty objects to the winning of recent Republic elections by the Brony Party.

//

117 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 5:56:32am

Glenn is using A Word, I don’t think he knows what it means.

118 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 6:00:59am

Good Morning Lizards. Another partly cloudy and relatively cool and dry day here in Philadelphia.

Pork shoulder in the slow cooker, so there should be pulled pork sandwiches for lunch tomorrow, if I don’t hit it tonight for dinner once the cooking and other work on the dish is completed. :)

119 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 6:01:28am

Kentucky longshot Senate candidate’s ‘With Jews We Lose’ slogan not going over well

Although Ransdell concedes he cannot win the race against U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) or well-funded Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes, his campaign is essentially testing the limits of a state law banning the removal of political advertisements.

“For years White Nationalist (sic) have looked on with disgust as various anti-White lemmings and creeps have taken it upon themselves to decide what people will read and be exposed to and have taken to removing flyers and other promotional materials distributed to the public by White Nationalists,” Ransdell said in a lengthy post at the white supremacist website Stormfront. “This campaign may well see the first of these idiots actually prosecuted for doing the same to one of my campaign signs, it is in fact a misdemeanor in the State of Kentucky.”

120 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 6:02:29am

re: #117 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn is using A Word, I don’t think he knows what it means.

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Given the typical mentality of dudebros, that ‘polite questioning’ was probably along the lines of “Why is the NSA planning to spy on everyone, all the time?” and “When will the NSA stop kicking puppies?”.

121 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 18, 2014 6:03:13am

I initially read the headline as “Hannity removes belt and SLACKS…”

I didn’t want to see that at all but a true reading soon cleared things up.

122 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 6:08:13am

Homophobic bullies cry that they are TEH REEL VICTIMZ!!!!!!

123 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 6:12:46am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

Cry me a river. If you don’t want to read a book, don’t read the book. If you don’t want your kids to read a book, tell them they have to. Then, they probably won’t.

124 Ryan King  Sep 18, 2014 6:13:34am

Tough Guys love Persecution Complexes.

125 A Mom Anon  Sep 18, 2014 6:15:34am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

Aww, he’s probably just sad that he “doesn’t get” reading in general. Bless his heart….

126 Sherlock Hound  Sep 18, 2014 6:15:38am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

My favorite Twitter comment on Scottish independence:

I’m from west London and I want independence from Westminster!”

127 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 6:25:30am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

The American Library Association, which sponsors Banned Books Week (9/21-9/27 this year), keeps tabs on how many books are challenged or banned from libraries and schools.

Background Information from 2000 to 2009

Over this recent past decade, 5,099* challenges were reported to the Office for Intellectual Freedom.

1,577 challenges due to “sexually explicit” material;
1,291 challenges due to “offensive language”;
989 challenges due to materials deemed “unsuited to age group”;
619 challenged due to “violence”’ and
361 challenges due to “homosexuality.”

Further, 274 materials were challenged due to “occult” or “Satanic” themes, an additional 291 were challenged due to their “religious viewpoint,” and 119 because they were “anti-family.”

Here are the top 10 for last year:

2013

Out of 307 challenges as reported by the Office for Intellectual Freedom

1. Captain Underpants (series), by Dav Pilkey
Reasons: Offensive language, unsuited for age group, violence
2. The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison
Reasons: Offensive language, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group, violence
3. The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie
Reasons: Drugs/alcohol/smoking, offensive language, racism, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group
4. Fifty Shades of Grey, by E.L. James
Reasons: Nudity, offensive language, religious viewpoint, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group
5. The Hunger Games, by Suzanne Collins
Reasons: Religious viewpoint, unsuited to age group
6. A Bad Boy Can Be Good for A Girl, by Tanya Lee Stone
Reasons: Drugs/alcohol/smoking, nudity, offensive language, sexually explicit
7. Looking for Alaska, by John Green
Reasons: Drugs/alcohol/smoking, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group
8. The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky
Reasons: drugs/alcohol/smoking, homosexuality, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group
9. Bless Me Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya
Reasons: Occult/Satanism, offensive language, religious viewpoint, sexually explicit
10. Bone (series), by Jeff Smith
Reasons: Political viewpoint, racism, violence

ala.org

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 6:28:41am

re: #127 wheat-dogghazi

The American Library Association, which sponsors Banned Books Week (9/21=9/27 this year), keeps tabs on how many books are challenged or banned from libraries and schools.

Here are the top 10 for last year:

ala.org

Well, I kind of agree that “50 Shades of Gray” should not be included in school library collections, mainly because it sucks.

129 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 6:31:01am

re: #76 sattv4u2

But states coffers love them

DMV’s in each state charge extra for those vanity plates thus raising more revenue

In Alabama, drug dealers love the “Support Education” plate. It’s the vanity plate that does not have a county identifier, making them less conspicuously out of place when they cross lines on business.

Unexpected consequences.

130 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2014 6:31:42am

Good morning (or whatever your time zone provides) ! Whats up from the overnight? Scotland votes? Our heat wave is over for now, much to the relief of a couple thousand firefighters on the wildfire lines.

131 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 6:34:38am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, I kind of agree that “50 Shades of Gray” should not be included in school library collections, mainly because it sucks.

These include books challenged/banned at public libraries, too. But I would agree that removing 50 Shades from circulation would not be a big loss to literature or civilization as a whole.

132 Schadenboner  Sep 18, 2014 6:43:57am

re: #119 Lidane

Kentucky longshot Senate candidate’s ‘With Jews We Lose’ slogan not going over well

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos?

133 b.d.  Sep 18, 2014 6:45:53am

It’s been 10 minutes since Obama again has ruled out ground forces, something’s up!

134 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 6:50:17am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi

These include books challenged/banned at public libraries, too. But I would agree that removing 50 Shades from circulation would not be a big loss to literature or civilization as a whole.

To Kill a Mockingbird makes the 2011 Top Ten. That’s the moronic left-right convergence, with a secret sauce of Missing The Point. My daughter was narced for teaching it, though that was really a part of a HS power struggle.

135 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 6:51:50am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We got a bit of good news this morning . A teen girl with special needs that apparently was able to slip out of school yesterday has been safe and sound.

The whole situation is a lot like a situation last year where Avonte Oquendo managed to leave school and was later found dead in the East River. After that incident, NYC passed a law that was supposed to make this kind of thing more difficult. Well, as that law was originally written, schools were supposed to have the new plans in place and have better training and methods to keep these special needs kids safe. The law as enacted, however, set a 2015 deadline and only for a plan to be provided.

The principal of the school has been reassigned pending a further investigation, but there’s a lot of explaining to be done by the DOE. Add to that the way the school treated the mother who showed up to pick the girl up from school early, and there’s going to be a hefty lawsuit and settlement to follow. In fact, the mother was the one who called 911 to get police involved - an hour after the school knew the girl had left the building unattended.

136 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 6:57:36am

re: #12 sagehen

So what time do the polls open in Scotland?

They opened at 7am BST, and close at 10 pm tonight (also BST, obv).

As far as I know there won’t be a result til 6am Friday from Glasgow, Aberdeen, and Edinburgh councils, which is where most of the population is anyway. So I don’t think we’ll really know til Friday am at the earliest, and honestly they’re expecting something like 80 percent turn out, with lots of first time or ‘haven’t voted in a while’ people, which makes the polling very difficult.

Just back from voting aye and having a wee drink to celebrate! Hello good people of LGF!

137 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 6:58:49am
In this clip, Sean Hannity says his father beat him with a belt and even punched him in the face, but he’s “never been to a shrink” and he’s just fine. And he demonstrates by taking off his belt and slamming it on the desk.

These people just can’t help themselves.

138 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 6:58:54am

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Favorited, because that can’t be said enough. I hope Scotland votes to stay in the UK, but whatever the outcome it will have been reached freely and fairly.

Hello DF! Why do you hope Scotland votes No?

/asking for a friend. :)

139 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 6:59:57am

re:
#135

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We got a bit of good news this morning . A teen girl with special needs that apparently was able to slip out of school yesterday has been safe and sound.

Very good news, indeed!

140 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 18, 2014 7:01:08am

WTF??

They arrested 15 ISIS supporters who planned on beheading random people while recording it and posting the videos on the internet. The leader is still on the loose.

141 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:02:18am

re:
#133

This is PROOF that Obama is just starting another war for moar OIL!!!11

Obama is bad and hates America because he (will)(won’t) commit ground troops to fight ISIS/ISIL!!!!!1

142 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 7:03:09am

“My daddy spanked me every day from when I was nine ‘til I was sixteen, and I turned out okay! …Bastard.” — Bill Dauterive, King of the Hill, “To Spank With Love”

143 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 18, 2014 7:05:00am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

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I recognize that!!!! That was fun to make.

RBS

144 Mattand  Sep 18, 2014 7:06:26am

re: #127 wheat-dogghazi

The American Library Association, which sponsors Banned Books Week (9/21-9/27 this year), keeps tabs on how many books are challenged or banned from libraries and schools.

Here are the top 10 for last year:

ala.org

Captain Underpants? Really?

A few years ago, for some reason, I was hearing from people I know that Spongebob Squarepants was being banned from their households. Literally told it’s a bad influence on the kids.

These are people in my age group who grew up on Warner Bros. cartoons, with all of their over-the-top violence and occasional racial slurs.

I just don’t get parents sometimes.

145 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:06:36am

re:
#127

5. The Hunger Games, by Suzanne Collins
Reasons: Religious viewpoint, unsuited to age group

(Scratches head…)

Don’t recall any sexytimes in the book.

146 nsmith25  Sep 18, 2014 7:07:52am

re: #119 Lidane

Kentucky longshot Senate candidate’s ‘With Jews We Lose’ slogan not going over well

147 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:08:16am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

To Kill a Mockingbird makes the 2011 Top Ten. That’s the moronic left-right convergence, with a secret sauce of Missing The Point. My daughter was narced for teaching it, though that was really a part of a HS power struggle.

Some of the challenges and bans usually result from one or two soreheads reading an offensive word, sentence or paragraph in a book, and outrageous outrage ensues, and they want the whole book removed forever from everywhere. 11ty1!! Seldom do these people bother reading the whole book.

Literature expresses the culture in which it was written. Shakespeare’s Shylock was an acceptable stereotype in the 17th century, though not now. Mark Twain’s use of the n-word was typical for the location and the time period, but now that same word is verboten, in most situations. Does this mean kids shouldn’t read Huckleberry Finn or The Merchant of Venice? I would argue no, because they can learn something about history and how culture and language change over time.

Some of the latest books get into trouble because of sexual situations or four-letter words — oh, the horror! — as if today’s kids don’t know about any of that stuff. But the Nervous Nellies wanting to ban these books feel they are protecting their kids, and everyone else’s kids, from eternal damnation — or something.

Tell a kid she can’t read something, and it guarantees she will. These parents just don’t get that concept.

148 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:08:46am

re:
#122

The Bullies of ‘Banned Books Week’
— Matt Barber

Does Matty know who else banned/burned books?

149 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 7:11:10am

re: #144 Mattand

Captain Underpants is a regular on local banned-book lists. People hear about it, but naturally can’t be arsed to even crack a book open before adding it to their own hit-list. (It’s not like they’re big on reading; they’re more about telling people what they can’t read.)

150 Dark_Falcon  Sep 18, 2014 7:11:36am

re: #138 iceweasel

Hello DF! Why do you hope Scotland votes No?

/asking for a friend. :)

I’d answer, but I’ve got to get to work. Bus in 2 minutes.

151 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:12:13am

re: #145 Bulworth

re:
#127

(Scratches head…)

Don’t recall any sexytimes in the book.

It wasn’t challenged for sexytimes, since there are none. The Hunger Games is “edgy” in its social criticism, and challengers probably feel it’s too mature in content to be a YA book series.

152 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 7:12:21am

re: #145 Bulworth

I’m scratching my head about the so-called religious viewpoint. There isn’t any religion mentioned.

It’s a politically motivated book. Dystopian future. Kids are turned into gladiators for sport and to keep the populace under the heel of the central power. In some respects, it should be required reading for literature or a politics class.

Hunger Games may be unsuitable for kids of a certain age, but it shouldn’t be banned by any stretch.

153 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 18, 2014 7:12:50am

re: #146 nsmith25
Kentucky longshot Senate candidate’s ‘With Jews We Lose’ slogan not going over well

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But “With Catholics You Get Fish Sticks” is polling ok.

RBS

154 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 7:13:16am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi

Some of the challenges and bans usually result from one or two soreheads reading an offensive word, sentence or paragraph in a book, and outrageous outrage ensues, and they want the whole book removed forever from everywhere. 11ty1!! Seldom do these people bother reading the whole book.

Literature expresses the culture in which it was written. Shakespeare’s Shylock was an acceptable stereotype in the 17th century, though not now. Mark Twain’s use of the n-word was typical for the location and the time period, but now that same word is verboten, in most situations. Does this mean kids shouldn’t read Huckleberry Finn or The Merchant of Venice? I would argue no, because they can learn something about history and how culture and language change over time.

Some of the latest books get into trouble because of sexual situations or four-letter words — oh, the horror! — as if today’s kids don’t know about any of that stuff. But the Nervous Nellies wanting to ban these books feel they are protecting their kids, and everyone else’s kids, from eternal damnation — or something.

Tell a kid she can’t read something, and it guarantees she will. These parents just don’t get that concept.

A couple years ago there was some parent who was trying to get dictionaries banned from an elementary school because they contained definitions for the proper names of genital anatomy.

155 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:13:39am

re:
#147

Some of the challenges and bans usually result from one or two soreheads reading an offensive word, sentence or paragraph in a book, and outrageous outrage ensues, and they want the whole book removed forever from everywhere.

None dare call it political correctness.

156 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:14:07am

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

I’d answer, but I’ve got to get to work. Bus in 2 minutes.

Ok, I’ll let you go with these words from Groundskeeper Willie:

Youtube Video

Have a great day DF!

157 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:14:41am

re: #144 Mattand

Captain Underpants? Really?

A few years ago, for some reason, I was hearing from people I know that Spongebob Squarepants was being banned from their households. Literally told it’s a bad influence on the kids.

These are people in my age group who grew up on Warner Bros. cartoons, with all of their over-the-top violence and occasional racial slurs.

I just don’t get parents sometimes.

SpongeBob, according to some, is gay, and they don’t want their kids growing up to be gay rectangular sponges.

158 fern01  Sep 18, 2014 7:14:55am

re: #99 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

As I have said before, I can see how a form of corporal punishment can be justified (e.g. towards kids that bully other kids). It doesn’t mean that anything goes or that the Bible’s savage advice is relevant in today’s world.

I see nothing as a justification for corporal punishment. If you hit a child because they bullied other kids - you are simply proving his/her point - the bigger person can hit on the smaller person. There are MANY ways to punish a child other than hitting them - making them apologize for what they did is a good starting point.

159 iossarian  Sep 18, 2014 7:15:05am

Good morning everyone!

My father never beat the crap out of me, which is probably why I’m now a meek and mild liberal who doesn’t like the idea of my government dropping bombs on people to solve non-existent problems.

GO SCOTLAND!

160 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 7:15:08am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi

It wasn’t challenged for sexytimes, since there are none. The Hunger Games is “edgy” in its social criticism, and challengers probably feel it’s too mature in content to be a YA book series.

Struck me as Brave New World for the Twitter set. Who but YA readers would bother?

161 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 7:15:50am

re: #152 lawhawk

I’m scratching my head about the so-called religious viewpoint. There isn’t any religion mentioned.

It’s a politically motivated book. Dystopian future. Kids are turned into gladiators for sport and to keep the populace under the heel of the central power. In some respects, it should be required reading for literature or a politics class.

Hunger Games may be unsuitable for kids of a certain age, but it shouldn’t be banned by any stretch.

The series is being used at American University for an American Studies class:
teenvogue.com

162 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 7:16:41am

re: #148 Bulworth

re:
#122

Does Matty know who else banned/burned books?

Torquemada? (just for the novelty)

163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 7:17:30am

Putinofascists are evicting the Crimean Tatar Mejlis. The people earlier oppressed by Stalin are now being oppressed by Putin.

164 iossarian  Sep 18, 2014 7:17:42am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Struck me as Brave New World for the Twitter set. Who but YA readers would bother?

There’s a whole canon of similar stuff out there that didn’t get the Hollywood makeover. Brave New World is light years ahead in that it actually thinks through societal change beyond “it’s all grim and people are fighting for survival”.

165 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 7:20:58am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Struck me as Brave New World for the Twitter set. Who but YA readers would bother?

Hell, you could easily ban Brave New World and 1984. For example, the protagonist in 1984 fantasizes about raping (“ravishing”) the main female character.

166 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:20:59am

re: #152 lawhawk

I’m scratching my head about the so-called religious viewpoint. There isn’t any religion mentioned.

It’s a politically motivated book. Dystopian future. Kids are turned into gladiators for sport and to keep the populace under the heel of the central power. In some respects, it should be required reading for literature or a politics class.

Hunger Games may be unsuitable for kids of a certain age, but it shouldn’t be banned by any stretch.

Do you even think it’s unsuitable for kids of a younger age though?

I was the kind of kid who read everything I could get my hands on, and my parents had loads of books, let me read whatever I wanted, and took me to the library and the bookstore weekly. My otherwise very conservative parents were very liberal about this:books and knowledge. I read Animal Farm and 1984 when I was about ten—definitely ‘too young’ in one sense (I couldn’t understand every reference or context), but these are books you return to again when you’re a little older.

I understand that, since I’m not a parent, there is a certain realm of experience that I lack, but my philosophy is to let kids read anything and everything they want. I think it’s a good thing.

167 A Mom Anon  Sep 18, 2014 7:21:38am

Also, a conversation from this morning reminded me of this:

When parents hit their kids, it can often result in the child equating hitting with love. I went on a mini tirade about this here last night but forgot that point. We tell kids not to hit others, and then we hit them? Kids don’t do nuance, their brains aren’t developed enough for that, those actions and words don’t match.

Hannity is not a nice person. I shudder to think how he treats his family if he really thinks this is OK.

168 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:22:06am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Struck me as Brave New World for the Twitter set. Who but YA readers would bother?

It’s more like The Running Man for the YA set, with a female lead character rather than a male.

I can’t comment on the books beyond that, since I’ve only seen the movie as yet. I recently got Science Fiction: The 101 Best Novels 1985-2010 on my Kindle app, so I could catch up on some good SF to read. The Hunger Games is one of the 101 listed.

169 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 7:22:25am

re: #162 Decatur Deb

Let’s face it - you can’t Torquemada anything.

170 blueraven  Sep 18, 2014 7:22:55am

President Poroshenko is addressing Congress

c-span.org

171 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 7:23:33am

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Hell, you could easily ban Brave New World and 1984. For example, the protagonist in 1984 fantasizes about raping (“ravishing”) the main female character.

Guess Titus Andronicus is SOL, then.

172 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:24:52am

re: #159 iossarian

Good morning everyone!

My father never beat the crap out of me, which is probably why I’m now a meek and mild liberal who doesn’t like the idea of my government dropping bombs on people to solve non-existent problems.

GO SCOTLAND!

AYE OR DIE! :-)

173 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:25:50am

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Hell, you could easily ban Brave New World and 1984. For example, the protagonist in 1984 fantasizes about raping (“ravishing”) the main female character.

Indeed, both have been challenged or banned within the last 30 years. ala.org

Animal Farm is on the list, too.

174 Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2014 7:26:01am

re: #169 lawhawk

Let’s face it - you can’t Torquemada anything.

He’s my fave—I was 20 or so before I read anything on The Index of Forbidden Books, and grew up with the Legion of Decency and the Comic Book Code.

175 Interesting Times  Sep 18, 2014 7:28:47am

re: #172 iceweasel

AYE OR DIE! :-)

Which pre-referendum poll do you think is the most accurate? Last I recall hearing, the “No” “DIE” vote was slightly ahead.

176 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:30:10am

Four years old. The little boy was four years old. You do NOT hit a four year old child with a rod. Hannity again shows why conservatives are on the wrong side of practically every issue in this country.

177 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 7:32:26am

They should ban Gulliver’s Travels and Gargantua & Pantagruel. Lots of sex & scatology. 1001 Nights are right out too. And don’t get me started on the Bible.

178 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 7:32:27am

SMOTI, classy as always

179 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:33:28am

re: #178 Pie-onist Overlord

SMOTI, classy as always

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As usual conservatives show themselves to be classless assholes.

180 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:35:48am

You know, I can understand spanking. But a belt or in the case of Peterson, a switch? No. And honestly maybe if Hannity’s father hadn’t hit him, he wouldn’t have such a twisted worldview.

181 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:36:33am

I wonder how anyone looks at the photos that were released of that child’s injuries and thinks “Yeah this is how a parent should act.”

182 blueraven  Sep 18, 2014 7:37:09am

My dad used to beat us with a belt/switch, whatever. Not just a few licks but hard enough to leave welts and cut the skin.

I remember when I was about 6 or 7, I got into an argument on the playground, but recess was almost over…I told the other little girl she better not come to school the next day, or I would “beat her up”.

She didn’t show up for school the next day. I felt the power. I had learned the lesson well. It took a long time to unlearn it.

Good thing I waited later in life to have kids. Never laid a hand on them. Never felt the need to. I was one of the lucky ones.

183 b.d.  Sep 18, 2014 7:37:31am

re: #178 Pie-onist Overlord

SMOTI, classy as always

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Dear Lord.

Gotta admit that #HeyBlackPeople is a hell of a hashtag though.
Nothing could invite more honest and open dialogue than that.

//

184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 7:37:35am
Adrian Peterson’s mother defends her son by saying ‘when you whip someone you love it’s about love’

Hmm, this mirrors a certain misogynist mindset. There is an old Russian proverb: “beats, therefore loves”.

185 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:38:45am

re: #175 Interesting Times

Which pre-referendum poll do you think is the most accurate? Last I recall hearing, the “No” “DIE” vote was slightly ahead.

I don’t think any of the polls are accurate really— the vote is going to be very close. Most polls (and certainly all the ones the media trumpet) show it as close but with No in the lead— honestly though, Jimmah and I went to a rally yesterday and the atmosphere reminded me of Obama rallies in NYC in 2008— lots of young people, lots of first time voters, lots of people who haven’t bothered to vote in years— all demographics that are notoriously difficult for pollsters to get a grip on.

So even though No is leading in the polls, the polls themselves are so close that I have hope. :)

186 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 7:39:24am

re: #183 b.d.

Dear Lord.

Gotta admit that #HeyBlackPeople is a hell of a hashtag though.
Nothing could invite more honest and open dialogue than that.

//

Yeah I just glanced at it, now I have to go through Level 4 Decon

If they were honest they would call it # HeyNWord

187 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:40:16am

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah I just glanced at it, now I have to go through Level 4 Decon

If they were honest they would call it # HeyNWord

“Let me tell you about the negro.”

188 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 7:41:15am

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah, you need MOPP level 4 precautions before entering. What a cesspool of whitesplaining, outright racism, and general hate.

189 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 7:42:15am

Got a flu shot yesterday and now can barely lift up my arm, although it’s not as bad as when I had to get a TDAP booster a couple years ago.

190 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2014 7:42:26am

re: #136 iceweasel

They opened at 7am BST, and close at 10 pm tonight (also BST, obv).

As far as I know there won’t be a result til 6am Friday from Glasgow, Aberdeen, and Edinburgh councils, which is where most of the population is anyway. So I don’t think we’ll really know til Friday am at the earliest, and honestly they’re expecting something like 80 percent turn out, with lots of first time or ‘haven’t voted in a while’ people, which makes the polling very difficult.

Just back from voting aye and having a wee drink to celebrate! Hello good people of LGF!

Hi you two
My cable provider totally upended my channel selection, and this morning I was quite annoyed to have to hunt for Al Jaz and BBC to hear about the vote.

Honest question from complete ignorance here-What is the risk (real or perceived) of vote count trouble? News here claims it’s really close which is worrisome in any important vote.

191 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:43:06am

re: #182 blueraven

My dad used to beat us with a belt/switch, whatever. Not just a few licks but hard enough to leave welts and cut the skin.

I remember when I was about 6 or 7, I got into an argument on the playground, but recess was almost over…I told the other little girl she better not come to school the next day, or I would “beat her up”.

She didn’t show up for school the next day. I felt the power. I had learned the lesson well. It took a long time to unlearn it.

Good thing I waited later in life to have kids. Never laid a hand on them. Never felt the need to. I was one of the lucky ones.

You were obviously also one of the brave ones, not merely lucky. Give yourself more credit for surviving and thriving, and not perpetrating the cycle.
Your post really moved me.

192 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:43:38am

Well with a baseball off day. I’m actually going to be very interested in seeing the results to the Scottish referendum.

193 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 18, 2014 7:44:16am

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Yes, Obama should have gone over to Glasgow and mansplained them America’s interests in a unified Great Britain. I’m sure that would have been some compelling shit.

John Oliver’s take on that horrid “No” commercial was beautiful.

Yanksplaining.

194 stl453  Sep 18, 2014 7:44:34am

Anybody else feel like calling “bullshit” on these tough-guy conservatives who basically make it sound like they had to fist fight their dad every day?

195 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:45:05am

re:
#178

HeyBlackPeople
pretend it’s a white guy whipping a 4yr old black kid. Then tell us it’s okay ==>
AdrianPeterson
— Progressives Today

Not sure what this is supposed to mean other than it’s totally NOT racist.

///

196 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 7:45:57am

I had the opposite problem. Instead of a parent that beat me or disciplined me with a belt or constant spankings, I had the overbearing, overprotective mother. She cornered the market on what they now call helicopter parenting decades ago.

When it came to discipline, she’d mostly use guilt or yell at me. I got a few spankings here and there when I got out of line, and I can recall a couple of times a belt entered the picture, but physical punishment wasn’t a big part of my life. Getting sent to bed without supper, or getting grounded, or getting privileges revoked was far more common.

197 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 7:46:45am

re: #189 Timothy Watson

Got a flu shot yesterday and now can barely lift up my arm, although it’s not as bad as when I had to get a TDAP booster a couple years ago.

I need to get a flu shot, especially since I’m working in an office with hundreds of people. Thanks for the reminder.

198 Danny  Sep 18, 2014 7:47:48am

re: #166 iceweasel

Do you even think it’s unsuitable for kids of a younger age though?

I understand that, since I’m not a parent, there is a certain realm of experience that I lack, but my philosophy is to let kids read anything and everything they want. I think it’s a good thing.

I’ve only raised one child to adulthood but I think that “age-appropriate” varies widely depending on each individual child’s emotional/psychological development and capacity to digest and understand certain things, as well as on the parents’ ability to support the healthy development of the child. Imparting knowledge to a child is essential, but it’s definitely possible to expose children to inappropriate knowledge that can harm the child’s sense of well-being. Ideally, the parents should take primary responsibility for ensuring that their child(ren) are safe and healthy. Unfortunately, there are parents who aren’t responsible in that regard.

199 HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2014 7:48:43am

re: #194 stl453

Anybody else feel like calling “bullshit” on these tough-guy conservatives who basically make it sound like they had to fist fight their dad every day?

Yes, I feel like calling bullshit on a lot of them when they pine for “how things were better in the old days” and especially when they spit on the work ethic and value set of my generation. Even more angering when it’s younger conservatives doing it to make their bones with the older crowd. Every older generation has had members that think the current generation of young people have no work ethic and values.

200 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:50:07am

re: #190 Rightwingconspirator

Hi you two
My cabke provider totally upended my channel selection, and this morning I was quite annoyed to have to hunt for Al Jaz and BBC to hear about the vote.

Honest question from complete ignorance here-What is the risk (real or perceived) of vote count trouble? News here claims it’s really close which is worrisome in any important vote.

Hey RWC! BTW, the BBC’s coverage of the referendum has been shockingly biased— all kinds of time given to the No campaign, very little attention paid to the Yes campaign. If Scotland votes Yes it will be despite the entire media establishment here being against them— only one newspaper has come out as being in support of the Yes campaign.

Re: your question— no one is talking about voter fraud or anything like that— it’s a paper ballot which will be hand counted (!) — one reason why the results won’t be in anytime soon.

I’ve been amazed at how amicable the whole situation has been— when we were voting this morning there were two guys outside the polling station, one for Yes and one for No, handing out leaflets— and inbetween the two of them were chatting completely amicably about their families, etc.

I did see some asshole No voters yesterday who were trying to provoke a fight at a Yes rally, but in general it’s been amazingly peaceful, considering what’s at stake.

201 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:50:13am

re:
#196

I was never spanked, that I can recall. But my step-father abused me in other ways. And my mom was over-protective in some ways, negligent in others. It was a bit confusing. Apocalyptic religion muddled the environment a bit more. From early on I sensed things were not regular in my house.

202 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 7:53:13am

re:
#181

Yeah I don’t get it.

I’ll admit I’m not a parent, so I can’t claim to understand all a parent goes through in trying to raise and correct a child.

But I get the sense that the beatings, rather than a last resort or an extreme exception, become the first tool reached for when there’s a problem.

And the kid’s four f0cking years old. Can’t believe a kid that age really knows what’s right or wrong in any meaningful sense.

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 7:55:40am

ARRRR!

They are actually making an EVENT out of “Talk Like A Pirate Day” at work tomorrow. People are being encouraged to wear eye patches & shoulder parrots (only those that are pining for the fjords, no squawking or shitting)

204 Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2014 7:56:01am

re: #154 Timothy Watson

A couple years ago there was some parent who was trying to get dictionaries banned from an elementary school because they contained definitions for the proper names of genital anatomy.

Hope the lawsuit was instigated by someone named Harry Cox or his wife Anita..

205 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2014 7:56:42am

re: #200 iceweasel

Hey RWC! BTW, the BBC’s coverage of the referendum has been shockingly biased— all kinds of time given to the No campaign, very little attention paid to the Yes campaign. If Scotland votes Yes it will be despite the entire media establishment here being against them— only one newspaper has come out as being in support of the Yes campaign.

Re: your question— no one is talking about voter fraud or anything like that— it’s a paper ballot which will be hand counted (!) — one reason why the results won’t be in anytime soon.

I’ve been amazed at how amicable the whole situation has been— when we were voting this morning there were two guys outside the polling station, one for Yes and one for No, handing out leaflets— and inbetween the two of them were chatting completely amicably about their families, etc.

I did see some asshole No voters yesterday who were trying to provoke a fight at a Yes rally, but in general it’s been amazingly peaceful, considering what’s at stake.

I’ll take a good look at BBC America just to see if it’s any less biased. Like many stories these days Al Jazeera has been pretty good. We barely watch US national news networks.

Glad to hear it’s calm, and it shows that if you win all will be well. I guess you don’t have a law about political advocacy in or right near a polling place like we do. (?)

Good luck and best wishes to the people of Scotland.

206 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 18, 2014 7:56:58am

I wish him well but shit, what a bad idea.

207 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 7:57:59am

re: #198 Danny

I’ve only raised one child to adulthood but I think that “age-appropriate” varies widely depending on each individual child’s emotional/psychological development and capacity to digest and understand certain things, as well as on the parents’ ability to support the healthy development of the child. Imparting knowledge to a child is essential, but it’s definitely possible to expose children to inappropriate knowledge that can harm the child’s sense of well-being.

Thank you for a thoughtful, articulate response. This seems right to me— what’s appropriate will vary according to the individual child’s capacities.

Even so, I tend to err on the side of letting them read everything, but obviously that’s not an option in some cases (unfortunately).

208 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 7:58:06am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

I wish him well but shit, what a bad idea.

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209 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 7:59:48am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

National Report is poorly written satire. It’s basically The Onion’s dumb, inbred, illiterate cousin.

210 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:01:56am

re: #205 Rightwingconspirator

I’ll take a good look at BBC America just to see if it’s any less biased. Like many stories these days Al Jazeera has been pretty good. We barely watch US national news networks.

Glad to hear it’s calm, and it shows that if you will all will be well. I guess you don’t have a law about political advocacy in or right near a polling place like we do. (?)

Exactly— there were signs and pollsters and two leaflet guys outside the polling place, which surprised me because as you say it’s illegal in the US, and for good reason— but it’s legal here and everyone was really cool about it.

Good luck and best wishes to the people of Scotland.

Thank you! Our best to you and Dragon Lady as always.:)

211 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 8:02:04am

re: #209 Lidane

National Report is poorly written satire. It’s basically The Onion’s dumb, inbred, illiterate cousin.

It’s not a humor site, it’s intended to trick people into thinking the articles are real.

212 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:02:36am

re: #209 Lidane

National Report is poorly written satire. It’s basically The Onion’s dumb, inbred, illiterate cousin.

Why are wingnuts so very bad at humor? I honestly don’t know.

213 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:05:01am

re: #207 iceweasel

re: #198 Danny

I’ve only raised one child to adulthood but I think that “age-appropriate” varies widely depending on each individual child’s emotional/psychological development and capacity to digest and understand certain things, as well as on the parents’ ability to support the healthy development of the child. Imparting knowledge to a child is essential, but it’s definitely possible to expose children to inappropriate knowledge that can harm the child’s sense of well-being. Ideally, the parents should take primary responsibility for ensuring that their child(ren) are safe and healthy. Unfortunately, there are parents who aren’t responsible in that regard.

That is how my parents allowed me to grow, although in less academic ways. The family had a big outdoor sporting side (good vacations!) so as I grew up there was a memorable point when I could take a rowboat out on the lake for fishing by myself. Or drive a powerboat, as a teen the rented houseboat. The power saw in the garage. Target shooting.

My reading was scifi, a genre aimed at the young so between that and the school library all was well. Any way a sense of building up to more and more hazardous activities with demonstrated responsibility over my formative years made me a better person.

214 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 8:06:35am

re: #126 Sherlock Hound

My favorite Twitter comment on Scottish independence:

Not an entirely uncommon sentiment, from what I’ve read in the UK media. There’s a widespread sentiment that PM Cameron and his cabinet are out-of-touch, elitist, posh toffs who are utterly alienated from your average Briton.

That feeling not only cuts across ideological lines, it seems to be a common attitude towards Westminster - aka, the ruling elite.

215 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:08:49am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi

Never had any of my ebooks banned, but that’s only because they aren’t popular enough.

One reviewer criticized me of being a homophobe and a racist because the villain in one story was lesbian and in another black.

I guess only straight, white males are allowed to be villains these days.

216 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 8:09:06am

re: #168 wheat-dogghazi

It’s more like The Running Man for the YA set, with a female lead character rather than a male.

I can’t comment on the books beyond that, since I’ve only seen the movie as yet. I recently got Science Fiction: The 101 Best Novels 1985-2010 on my Kindle app, so I could catch up on some good SF to read. The Hunger Games is one of the 101 listed.

Or, depending on your point of view, a knock-off of Koushun Takami’s Battle Royale.

217 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:09:08am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Not an entirely uncommon sentiment, from what I’ve read in the UK media. There’s a widespread sentiment that PM Cameron and his cabinet are out-of-touch, elitist, posh toffs who have are utterly alienated from your average Briton.

That feeling not only cuts across ideological lines, it seems to be a common attitude towards Westminster - aka, the ruling elite.

That’s exactly right from what I can tell as an expat American living in Scotland.

218 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 8:10:11am
219 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:10:14am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

He thinks he can take on anyone after Kim. If he’s kidnapped, not a finger should be lifted. Let this superman deal with it himself.

220 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:11:57am

re: #155 Bulworth

re:
#147

None dare call it political correctness.

Of course not! It’s only political correctness when bad people do it! When we good people demand things be cleansed from the culture it’s because we are supporting purity and goodness!

221 GunstarGreen  Sep 18, 2014 8:12:09am

re: #215 Romantic Heretic

Never had any of my ebooks banned, but that’s only because they aren’t popular enough.

One reviewer criticized me of being a homophobe and a racist because the villain in one story was lesbian and in another black.

I guess only straight, white males are allowed to be villains these days.

Pretty much. Modern SJW-ism of the tumblr-centric variety holds the belief that anything negative involving any non-white, non-cishet non-male is rooted in racism/misogyny/gender-or-sexuality-phobia, etc. It’s frustrating, because there are legitimate concerns in these sorts of areas that need to be discussed… but they get drowned out and made irrelevant by the cry-wolf effect. If everything is racism/misogyny/what-have-you, then nothing really is.

222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:14:13am

re: #221 GunstarGreen

Having just recently watched the last Spiderman, I’m not sure how this is correct. Have there been cries of racism because the main baddie is black?

223 Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2014 8:16:32am

re: #218 lawhawk

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Sigh.

224 GunstarGreen  Sep 18, 2014 8:18:04am

re: #222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I wouldn’t know, because the Spiderman movies have been crap for nearly a decade so I don’t pay any attention to them or reaction to them. I was speaking in the context of Heretic’s claim regarding reactions to their books. Reactions which are corroborated (by similar reactions in other contexts) by even casual perusal of Tumblr.

225 Schadenboner  Sep 18, 2014 8:20:32am

Posted without further comment.

226 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:22:20am

re: #168 wheat-dogghazi

Personally I prefer Divergent. I caught the movie recently and found it a better criticism of modern society.

Like ours the society of Divergent is essentially corporatist. Like ours was meant to be the empaths, the ones with ethics, that ran the place. But, of course, the corporations with the least empathy decided the empaths were ‘foolish’ and ‘weak’ so society would be better with ‘rational’, ‘strong’ leaders. Having no empathy it was no trouble for them to decide that the ‘weak’ should be eliminated.

I liked that it was the people who were balanced that could fight against this. It’s balance, an amalgamation of all human traits, that makes a society or a person strong.

I enjoyed Divergent far more than I expected.

227 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:25:03am

re: #224 GunstarGreen

I wouldn’t know

Now you know.

, because the Spiderman movies have been crap for nearly a decade so I don’t pay any attention to them or reaction to them. I was speaking in the context of Heretic’s claim regarding reactions to their books. Reactions which are corroborated (by similar reactions in other contexts) by even casual perusal of Tumblr.

And have there been cries of racism there because the main baddie in Spiderman is black? That’s, of course, just one example. I could cite more.

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 8:25:19am

re: #194 stl453

Anybody else feel like calling “bullshit” on these tough-guy conservatives who basically make it sound like they had to fist fight their dad every day?

Sounds like everyday is Festivus with these guys. They air their grievances and then go wrestle their father.
///

229 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:29:07am

re: #196 Lidane

I had the opposite problem. Instead of a parent that beat me or disciplined me with a belt or constant spankings, I had the overbearing, overprotective mother. She cornered the market on what they now call helicopter parenting decades ago.

When it came to discipline, she’d mostly use guilt or yell at me. I got a few spankings here and there when I got out of line, and I can recall a couple of times a belt entered the picture, but physical punishment wasn’t a big part of my life. Getting sent to bed without supper, or getting grounded, or getting privileges revoked was far more common.

What I learned from my dad who used naked fury as his weapon was that I was a useless little shit. It took me years to learn that my dad hated everything, including himself, and that he had been taught that very carefully by his mother who had been taught that very carefully by her father.

It’s almost certainly the main reason I suffer from clinical depression so badly. Wounds inflicted that deeply that early never really heal.

230 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 8:31:45am

re: #227 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And have there been cries of racism there because the main baddie in Spiderman is black?

Not that I’ve noticed.

There was a much larger outcry when Idris Elba was cast as Heimdall in the Thor films. There were cries of “A BLAH MAN CAN’T BE A NORSE GOD!” all over the internet, including some derp from the Council of Conservative Citizens. Same goes for when they cast a Japanese actor as one of Thor’s companions.

231 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:34:41am

re: #221 GunstarGreen

Pretty much. Modern SJW-ism of the tumblr-centric variety holds the belief that anything negative involving any non-white, non-cishet non-male is rooted in racism/misogyny/gender-or-sexuality-phobia, etc. It’s frustrating, because there are legitimate concerns in these sorts of areas that need to be discussed… but they get drowned out and made irrelevant by the cry-wolf effect. If everything is racism/misogyny/what-have-you, then nothing really is.

Myself, I regard it as another form of discrimination. By denying that people who aren’t straight, white males can act in a less than ethical manner they are denying those people’s humanity in yet another way.

It’s actions that define a person; not skin colour, not sexuality, not gender.

232 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:34:41am

re: #230 Lidane

Well, yeah, the casting stuff sometimes causes controversy, in both directions too, like a white guy playing an Asian guy in Cloud Atlas.

233 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2014 8:35:04am

re: #196 Lidane

My parents yelled. When that didn’t work there was the occasional spanking and if that wasn’t enough there was my Dad’s belt. I got the belt once, after that nothing ever escalated past the yelling/threat of a spanking or the belt.

The words “wait until your father gets home” were some of the most ominous words my mother could utter and when she did it usually ended any bad behavior me or my sister were engaging in. Compared to some of the things my grandparents on both sides did to my parents we had it easy as far as what constituted discipline (my mother told me how my grandmother used to hit them with wire hangers).

Grounding us or having privileges taken away was really not much of an option. We lived in a small town and really didn’t go anywhere and I already spent a lot of time in my room reading books anyway. About the only thing they could take away from us were the video game systems but even then I still had a computer, books, music and one heck of an imagination so even grounding wasn’t punishment as much as it was an annoyance.

234 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:36:06am

re: #231 Romantic Heretic

Yet popular films have black, female and gay villains.

235 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2014 8:36:09am
236 blueraven  Sep 18, 2014 8:36:10am

re: #194 stl453

Anybody else feel like calling “bullshit” on these tough-guy conservatives who basically make it sound like they had to fist fight their dad every day?

Oh, I don’t know. It is probably easier to justify what their parents did to them, by saying it “made them a better person”, or they “deserved it”, than to face up to the hurt they feel and the harm it caused.

BTW…Greetings hatchling.

237 Romantic Heretic  Sep 18, 2014 8:39:31am

re: #234 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yet popular films have black, female and gay villains.

True, and I’m sure there are people who think that is a form of racism/misogyny/homophobia.

I’ve gotten some wonderful reviews of my books, but there’s always at least one that is unhappy and not because they are badly written. It’s because I’m ‘not dealing with the situation properly.

Propriety is a major problem in our society, in my opinion.

238 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:39:57am

re: #194 stl453

Anybody else feel like calling “bullshit” on these tough-guy conservatives who basically make it sound like they had to fist fight their dad every day?

They grow up and they want a President who reminds them of ‘Daddy’, complete with the whuppings.

Seriously.

239 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:41:28am

Time for Scotland’s Story!

Youtube Video

240 GunstarGreen  Sep 18, 2014 8:42:48am

re: #234 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yet popular films have black, female and gay villains.

Nobody ever said that they didn’t. Films are large enough business that they don’t have to care what a handful of nuts on the internet think about them. All that was stated was that the viewpoint exists. It was effectively as follows:

“On the subject of silly people wanting to ban books for dumb reasons, I’ve had reviewers claim that my books are racist/homophobic for having black/gay villains.”

“Yeah, there’s a certain segment of the internet that subscribes to the belief that anything negative involving such-and-such groups constitutes such-and-such prejudice.”

Nothing more and nothing less than that. General public reaction to blockbuster Hollywood movies isn’t really germane to that line of discussion.

241 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 8:42:58am

re: #235 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sheriff’s department sends out SWAT teams to go after…unlicensed barbers.

A little wingnut/moonbat convergence there: BARBERS DON’T NEED NO GUBERNMENT REGULATION!!1!

242 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 8:47:08am

re: #178 Pie-onist Overlord

SMOTI, classy as always

#HeyBlackPeople pretend it’s a white guy whipping a 4yr old black kid. Then tell us it’s okay ==> t.co #AdrianPeterson
— Progressives Today (@ProgsToday) September 18, 2014

Huh? Aren’t conservatives the ones defending and bragging how they beat their kids?

243 Danny  Sep 18, 2014 8:47:42am

re: #233 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The words “wait until your father gets home” were some of the most ominous words my mother could utter and when she did it usually ended any bad behavior me or my sister were engaging in.

My mom used to spank us kids (6 of us…bless her) with a fly swatter. More humiliating than painful. Eventually even the humiliating part faded away and my brother and I once laughed as she spanked us with that fly swatter. We even laughed at her when she said “wait until your dad gets home.” Then dad got home. We learned definitively that laughing at my mom could be a bad, bad thing. :)

244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:48:24am

re: #240 GunstarGreen

Oh, so you were discussing an irrelevant fringe. No prob.

245 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 8:49:25am

Speaking of wingnuts:

After death threats forced a feminist video game critic to flee her home, conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute (AEI) released a video telling feminists to “stand down,” as the outrage over misogyny in gaming culture is overblown.

thinkprogress.org

246 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2014 8:50:27am

re: #243 Danny

Yup, that’s pretty much what happened with us. It only took once. And yeah, I never liked getting hit or spanked (probably why I stopped misbehaving when the threat came out) but I guess I learned quickly enough that I never “got used to” being hit.

247 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 8:51:31am

“Pro-life” conservatism at its finest.

Ann Coulter warns: “If you [Republicans/Conservatives] are considering voting for the Libertarian candidate in any Senate election, please send me your name and address so I can track you down and drown you.

Stay classy, asshole.

248 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:54:17am

AmnestyInternational @amnesty

URGENT: Tomorrow Gambia may pass law punishing “aggravated homosexuality” w/ life imprisonment owl.li pic.twitter.com

249 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 8:55:16am

Drudge keeps spam tweeting about most everything, but this keeps catching my eye.

I’ve quoted the relevant items from the homepage:

Mystery illness spreads to Virginia

Now 16 states...

Doctor: Feds ‘Tight-Lipped,’ May be From Illegals

Let’s start from the top.

This isn’t a mystery illness. It’s been defined and identified for quite some time. It’s enterovirus 68 (EV-D68). In fact, a quick google search reveals that it’s been identified as a specific strain since 1962. Until this year, it has been quite uncommon. Now, it’s spreading with infections in at least 16 states.

The problem is that it can cause severe symptoms leading to hospitalizations, especially for kids with asthma. Pretty much doctors are suggesting if your kids get sick and they begin showing signs of respiratory distress (20 or more breaths per minute), get to a hospital ASAP.

So, of course, Breitbart goes with the illegal alien angle - that foreigners brought the disease here. Except that the disease was first identified here. In 1962. And there have been outbreaks in the US before.

They bring in Association of American Physicians and Surgeons chief Dr. Jane Orient to make the claim. The AAPS is a right wing nutter organization, which has been well documented peddling nonsense.

Orient added “we don’t know where it’s coming from…are there immigrants from Central America, where this disease has allegedly been prevalent before? Should we be [looking at] the virus to see whether it’s like what’s been found in some of these countries that are just sending waves of children across our border and they haven’t been quarantined long enough to make sure they’re not sick?”

She also spoke about the risks posed by drug resistant tuberculosis, saying “virtually all of the cases of drug resistant TB that have been discovered in the United States are in foreign born individuals, and the vast majority of any type of TB is in a person who was born in a foreign country. It is a public health nightmare to just have one of these cases in your community because the person needs to be quarantined…and you could catch TB on a bus, there is no question about that.”

Because as I noted above, the disease has been identified in the US since 1962. Note too that the states that have seen cases aren’t exactly border states with high percentages of illegal aliens. It’s just more typical fear mongering from the right, using the veneer of legitimacy by getting a doctor with questionable “credentials” to make statements unsupported by actual facts.

It’s not known how prevalent the disease has been in the US since the CDC doesn’t require reporting - the information so far has been reported voluntarily. What we might find out if testing and reporting were made mandatory is that the disease is a whole lot more common than we thought because its symptoms mirror those of many other similar diseases.

A: EV-D68 infections are thought to occur less commonly than infections with other enteroviruses. However, CDC does not know how many infections and deaths from EV-D68 occur each year in the United States. Healthcare professionals are not required to report this information to health departments. Also, CDC does not have a surveillance system that specifically collects information on EV-D68 infections. Any data that CDC receives about EV-D68 infections or outbreaks are voluntarily provided by labs to CDC’s National Enterovirus Surveillance System (NESS). This system collects limited data, focusing on circulating types of enteroviruses and parechoviruses.

250 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 8:55:49am

re: #248 iceweasel

Wouldn’t be surprised if the US fundies are behind this.

251 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 8:59:05am

re: #250 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wouldn’t be surprised if the US fundies are behind this.

Totally agree. Prob like Uganda.

253 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2014 9:00:28am

re: #235 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sheriff’s department sends out SWAT teams to go after…unlicensed barbers.

It’s a daily (or worse) drumbeat of misbehavior.

254 gwangung  Sep 18, 2014 9:00:39am

re: #232 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, yeah, the casting stuff sometimes causes controversy, in both directions too, like a white guy playing an Asian guy in Cloud Atlas.

There’s a little more to this, in that there’s been a long tradition of whitewashing roles that were originally Asian (the whole cast of 21 was Asian American in real life), and that Asian, Latino and Native Americana actors rarely get cast as anything other than ethnic color.

255 GunstarGreen  Sep 18, 2014 9:00:48am

re: #245 Timothy Watson

I’m not really in a rush to leap to AEI’s defense, but that is a staggeringly unfair reading of what exactly has been going down in “gaming” as of late, complete with a lot of the same misguided “analysis” of games themselves.

If a game such as Grand Theft Auto allows you to be violent towards EVERYONE, regardless of race or gender or what have you, then you can’t really cite is as an example of “violence against women” in particular — and thinkprogress does exactly that, following after Anita Sarkesian’s sentiments to the same. And really, that’s exactly what I was talking about up-thread. Here’s a game that lets you murder literally anyone in the game world, but when you have a video clip of that with a character that just so happens to be a woman, suddenly it’s misogyny. Cry Wolf.

I also take issue with the rather murky circumstances of the “death threats” that the article is alluding to. The specific incident it’s talking about involved Anita taking a screenshot of some pretty vile stuff.

Posted by a twitter account that only ever existed for a handful of minutes.

For the express purpose of tweeting these threats at her.

With tweets at nearly the character limit, with perfect grammar and spelling and punctuation, being posted mere seconds apart.

With her screenshot being taken a mere 12 seconds after the last tweet.

With no search terms involved (empty search bar).

While she was logged out of twitter.

I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying it’s improbable.

256 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 9:02:17am

Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich is an anti-vaxxer:

Glenn Beck Literally Stands Up And Applauds Parents Who Are Refusing To Have Their Children Vaccinated

“I think that there is a lot of be said for being cautious on what we are jamming into our children’s arms by law, all the time,” Beck said, insisting that he is not against all vaccinations but simply objects to the arrogance of doctors and the government telling people they must get vaccinated.

“Whenever you put medication in your body,” he said, “there is an equal and opposite. It happens. You’re putting it in to fix this organ or to fix this flaw, it’s going to push something else out of the way.”

When Beck’s executive producer, Tiffany Siegel, pointed out that this drop in vaccinations is leading to outbreaks of contagious disease and sometimes resulting in death, Beck was not overly concerned.

“It seems like we have an outbreak of Ebola,” Beck said dismissively. “Disease is going to come. I’m not saying that we don’t use modern medicine. I’m not saying that I’m against all vaccinations. I’m saying that we consider the arrogance of doctors and governments jamming needles in our arms and our children’s arms and forcing us to do these things.”

“There’s a balance in all things,” he concluded.

257 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 9:04:32am

re: #254 gwangung

Well, if you’ve seen the film, you know that there was no choice whatsoever, since the same actors had to portray various “reincarnated” versions of the same “soul” from different eras, and one of those reincarnations was Asian, but they couldn’t have chosen another actor.

258 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 9:07:04am
259 nines09  Sep 18, 2014 9:10:58am

re: #258 Dr. Matt

They must have HUGE backpacks.

260 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 9:12:02am

re: #259 nines09

They must have HUGE backpacks.

And HUGE calves!!!!!! Cantaloupe sized calves!

261 nines09  Sep 18, 2014 9:14:36am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

Have to if you’re going to lump all that over the desert. Probably have big bags of Fear and Loathing with them too.

262 Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2014 9:16:29am

re: #249 lawhawk

Please page that.

263 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 9:17:16am

264 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2014 9:20:04am

re: #263 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

given the re-tooling of the Joker as portrayed by Heath Ledger, he would have worked with the Red Skull.

265 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 18, 2014 9:22:50am

Kurt Vonnegut’s response to a school book ban:

If you were to bother to read my books, to behave as educated persons would, you would learn that they are not sexy, and do not argue in favor of wildness of any kind. They beg that people be kinder and more responsible than they often are. It is true that some of the characters speak coarsely. That is because people speak coarsely in real life. Especially soldiers and hardworking men speak coarsely, and even our most sheltered children know that. And we all know, too, that those words really don’t damage children much. They didn’t damage us when we were young. It was evil deeds and lying that hurt us.

After I have said all this, I am sure you are still ready to respond, in effect, “Yes, yes-but it still remains our right and our responsibility to decide what books our children are going to be made to read in our community.” This is surely so. But it is also true that if you exercise that right and fulfill that responsibility in an ignorant, harsh, un-American manner, then people are entitled to call you bad citizens and fools. Even your own children are entitled to call you that.

The whole thing is worth a read.

266 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 9:23:45am
267 b.d.  Sep 18, 2014 9:23:50am

re: #263 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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I still say that Gowdy wears that suit better.

268 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 9:25:23am

re:
#265

Waaaaaah!!! Why are you always the BULLY us??!??!?!?!

269 nines09  Sep 18, 2014 9:27:53am

So Sean Hannity just gave the green light to every fucked up parent who tunes into his pile of steaming shit show. It’s okay to beat your kids. With a belt. Or a switch. Or your hands. Or fist. Or boot. Sean Hannity is a punk. So does he beat his kids with a belt? Someone ask the tough guy.

270 iceweasel  Sep 18, 2014 9:28:11am

ReVEaLEd! The scottish ballot:

271 nines09  Sep 18, 2014 9:28:30am

re: #266 Lidane

Smells like bullshit:

Ex-Navy SEAL Claims Over 90% of Troops Do Not Support President Obama

It’s on Fox. It’s the TRUTH./

272 b.d.  Sep 18, 2014 9:33:19am

re: #249 lawhawk

The article is better than the headline

273 sagehen  Sep 18, 2014 9:37:41am

re: #231 Romantic Heretic

Myself, I regard it as another form of discrimination. By denying that people who aren’t straight, white males can act in a less than ethical manner they are denying those people’s humanity in yet another way.

It’s actions that define a person; not skin colour, not sexuality, not gender.

For films that have lots of straight white men, sure it’s individual actions that define a person. But films that only have one black speaking character, or one gay guy… that is their defining characteristic, and making them the villain seems to say something about all black people or all gay people.

Nobody thought La Femme Nikita was misogynist for having evil women, because there was such a broad range of women characters, heroes/villains/ambiguous/victims, that none of them were positioned as Representative of Womanhood.

274 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 9:37:42am

re: #266 Lidane

Smells like bullshit:

Ex-Navy SEAL Claims Over 90% of Troops Do Not Support President Obama

Another conservative who believes they speak for the masses.

275 wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2014 9:39:04am
276 lawhawk  Sep 18, 2014 9:41:14am

re: #262 Timothy Watson

Done.

277 Egregious Philbin  Sep 18, 2014 9:41:30am

Fox News or WWE?

Paddy Chayefsky’s prediction came true, we have “Network”

278 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 9:42:48am

Whoa, Siri is now hands free when plugged into a power source. Nifty.

…..didn’t one of the other devices develop this like 3 years ago????

279 gwangung  Sep 18, 2014 9:43:39am

re: #257 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, if you’ve seen the film, you know that there was no choice whatsoever, since the same actors had to portray various “reincarnated” versions of the same “soul” from different eras, and one of those reincarnations was Asian, but they couldn’t have chosen another actor.

Hm, well, they could have cast an Asian male actor to go through those other racial roles, you know….

280 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 9:43:46am

re:
#274

Nobody in my circle of 11 friends likes Obama so 90%!!!1

281 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 9:43:53am

Tony Perkins: Congress Must Be Courageous And Impeach Obama

Sure. They can impeach him. They just have to prove there are legitimate grounds to do so.

282 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 9:46:17am

re: #266 Lidane

He should be careful! Obama might send “gangs of thugs”* to assassinate him!

*(neighborhood dogs begin barking)

Aside from the obvious bullshittiness, it does not matter. It doesn’t matter if 99% of the country hates the President’s guts. He’s still President and Commander-in-Chief. Is there a legit complaint? Impeach. Otherwise, this media puppet can go **** himself.

283 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 9:46:37am

re: #279 gwangung

Hm, well, they could have cast an Asian male actor to go through those other racial roles, you know….

In other films, you mean?

284 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 9:50:04am

re:
#281

So Tony Perkins would like to see a President Biden, then?

285 wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2014 9:50:41am
286 Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2014 9:51:56am

re: #265 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Czech author and satirist Jaroslav Hasek said it well:

Those who boggle at strong language are cowards, because it is real life which is shocking to them, and weaklings like that are the very people who cause most harm to culture and character. They would like to see the nation grow up into a group of over-sensitive little people—masturbators of false culture of the type of St Aloysius, of whom it is said in the book of the monk Eustachius that when he heard a man breaking wind with deafening noise he immediately burst into tears and could only be consoled by prayers.

People like that proclaim their indignation in public but take unusual pleasure in going to public lavatories to read obscene inscriptions on the walls.

In using a few strong expressions in my book I have done nothing more than affirm en passant how people actually talk.

We cannot expect the inn-keeper Palivec to speak with the same refinement as Mrs Laudová, Doctor Gurth, Mrs Olga Fastrová* and a whole series of others who would like to turn the whole Czechoslovak Republic into a big salon with parquet flooring, where people go about in tail-coats, white ties and gloves, speak in choice phrases and cultivate the refined behaviour of the drawing-room. But beneath this camouflage these drawing-room lions indulge in the worst vices and excesses.

*=Writers of Hasek’s era who wrote on morals, manners and etiquette.

287 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 9:52:44am

re: #263 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I could never tell (given John Byrne) if that preposterous moment was supposed to be taken at face value or read as parody. The scene in which Mafia goons and Federal agents suddenly stand together against Nazi invasion in The Rocketeer was much easier to shake one’s head/fist at.

288 WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2014 9:53:31am

re: #60 Targetpractice

“American President Tells Scottish People They Need to Accept British Rule, Vote Against Independence.”

Better yet:

“From the Formerly British Ruled United States, American President Tells Scottish People They Need to Accept British Rule and Vote Against the Same Independence the U.S. Already (Literally) Fought For and Won.”

289 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 9:54:09am

I think this week’s pie will be Key Lime

290 Lidane  Sep 18, 2014 9:56:17am

Logic, how the fuck does it work?

Linda Harvey And Molly Smith: Anti-Choicers Must Oppose Gay Rights Because Gay Rights Cause Abortion

“The Planned Parenthood and anti-life lobby is heavily imbued and connected to homosexuality,” Harvey told Smith. “They’re in favor of opening up the doors and spreading the boundaries of sexuality all across the board. That includes homosexuality. The lines are very blurred, and unless you stand strong on this issue, you’re going to see much more, and you do see much more, out of wedlock sexuality and then of course, more abortion.”

Harvey said that she had seen Planned Parenthood march in the Columbus, Ohio, LGBT pride parade: “Why are they doing that? Because they know, you muddy the water, and you get a lot more of their business, abortion.”

291 Kid A  Sep 18, 2014 9:58:13am

292 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 10:00:30am

re: #259 nines09

They must have HUGE backpacks.

Well, if you take a Islamomexicanist child and give him a jar of Doc Carson’s Million-Dollar Ebola Urine, you presumably have all of that in one neat package. He’ll have sweatshop experience, so he can make the prayer rugs once he’s over here.

293 WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2014 10:02:32am

re: #125 A Mom Anon

Aww, he’s probably just sad that he “doesn’t get” reading in general. Bless his heart….

Instead of “What are you reading?” they ask “Why are you reading?”

294 Bubblehead II  Sep 18, 2014 10:03:13am

From the what the hell was he thinking department.

Burned armpit hair leads to crash; five teens injured

Ada County — Five teenagers got a lesson in road safety rules early Sunday morning when a prank on the driver of a Ford Bronco went horribly wrong.

First rule: Don’t burn the driver’s armpit hair, especially when the vehicle’s moving.

Fortunately, while there were injuries (no seat belts) there were no deaths.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 18, 2014 10:06:47am

re: #294 Bubblehead II

From the what the hell was he thinking department.

Burned armpit hair leads to crash; five teens injured

No thinking was involved.

296 EPR-radar  Sep 18, 2014 10:10:33am

re: #281 Lidane

Tony Perkins: Congress Must Be Courageous And Impeach Obama

Sure. They can impeach him. They just have to prove there are legitimate grounds to do so.

Legitimate grounds for impeachment are irrelevant for the GOP. The only relevant fact is the the GOP does not have 2/3 in the Senate to convict, and will still not have this after the 2014 midterms.

297 wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2014 10:11:37am

re: #291 Kid A

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Do not tempt them.

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 18, 2014 10:14:38am

re: #287 Chez Ko Pe

I could never tell (given John Byrne) if that preposterous moment was supposed to be taken at face value or read as parody. The scene in which Mafia goons and Federal agents suddenly stand together against Nazi invasion in The Rocketeer was much easier to shake one’s head/fist at.

Maybe organized crime had a better concept of the difficulty of operating under the control of Nazis would be as compared to the current system?
//

299 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 18, 2014 10:17:35am

re: #298 Feline Fearless Leader

I suppose the Italian Mafia seriously hates fascists.

300 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2014 10:18:44am

re: #266 Lidane

Smells like bullshit:

Ex-Navy SEAL Claims Over 90% of Troops Do Not Support President Obama

from the comments there:

Higbie lost his honorable discharge after he published, in 2012, a book entitled Battle on the Homefront: A Navy SEAL’s Mission to Save the American Dream. He also attempted a run for Congress as a Republican in the 4th district of Connecticut, but did not receive enough delegates to appear on the ballot.

301 WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2014 10:21:19am

re: #145 Bulworth

re:
#127

(Scratches head…)

Don’t recall any sexytimes in the book.

Not sexy time, kids killing other kids. I, myself, have a hard time with this being a Young Adult book. It’s very violent. But um not going to tell anyone not to read it. That’s not my call for anyone but myself and my kids, if I had any.

302 Bulworth  Sep 18, 2014 10:22:03am

re:
#290

Lots more non-procreative sexytime will lead to lots moar abortions. Because reasons.

/

303 Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2014 10:22:15am

re: #300 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

from the comments there:

Translation: Butthurt RWNJ

304 ausador  Sep 18, 2014 10:29:49am

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It is interesting how putinofascists have parasitically attached themselves to the Scotland independence cause. One needs just to take a look at the twitter of one of the main online propagandists:

twitter.com

The logic is primitive: if Scotland can, why not Donbass and Crimea? That there is no analogy whatsoever doesn’t deter them.

305 sagehen  Sep 18, 2014 10:34:57am

re: #287 Chez Ko Pe

I could never tell (given John Byrne) if that preposterous moment was supposed to be taken at face value or read as parody. The scene in which Mafia goons and Federal agents suddenly stand together against Nazi invasion in The Rocketeer was much easier to shake one’s head/fist at.

The Mafia was *extremely* helpful to the Allies in WWII — New York mafiosos arranged for their Sicilian cousins to help American troops get behind Axis lines (landing in Sicily, then given papers and currency and lists of contacts who’d supply backup, weapons, safehouses and covert movement on the mainland, etc).

In return, the New Yorkers got pardons for more than a dozen murders.

306 sagehen  Sep 18, 2014 10:39:37am

re: #289 Pie-onist Overlord

I think this week’s pie will be Key Lime

I’ve been lobbying for weeks for peach. C’mon, you know you want to.

307 danarchy  Sep 18, 2014 11:03:20am

re: #269 nines09

So does he beat his kids with a belt? Someone ask the tough guy.

In the clip above he says he doesn’t hit his kids because he doesn’t have to, he takes their iPhone away and it works perfectly.

308 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 11:20:18am

re: #305 sagehen

That episode of self-interest in action still makes more sense than the cited “Hey! I may have slit a guy’s throat last night for not payin’ up, but by Jehovah, I’m a flag-lovin’ American patriot!!” nonsense. It’s been many years since I watched The Rocketeer, but IIRC the Bugsy crowd flips from trying to murder the Feds to sacrificing themselves to save them as soon as they realize they’re working with Ugh Ew Nazis!!—complete with a brotherly nod-and-a-wink between the men in charge of each group.

I have no trouble with the concept that both the Mafia and the Feds were corrupt and brutal, but rather with the idea that the Mob was just a bunch of misunderstood swell fellas.

309 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 18, 2014 11:22:13am

re: #307 danarchy

Heh! That fits right in with his war philosophy: “I won’t do it myself—but I’ll sit here and wave my dick in support of those who do!”

310 Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 18, 2014 11:27:45am

re: #294 Bubblehead II

From the what the hell was he thinking department.

Burned armpit hair leads to crash; five teens injured

Ada County — Five teenagers got a lesson in road safety rules early Sunday morning when a prank on the driver of a Ford Bronco went horribly wrong.

First rule: Don’t burn the driver’s armpit hair, especially when the vehicle’s moving.

Fortunately, while there were injuries (no seat belts) there were no deaths.

I intently watched the crawler on GMA this morning for 15 minutes because I only caught “…armpit hair on fire” as it scrolled by the first time.


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