US, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Bahrain Launch Airstrikes Against ISIS in Syria

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The US is reportedly launching airstrikes inside Syria tonight.

Republicans are on vacation. Enjoy your time off.

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1 b.d.  Sep 22, 2014 7:42:40pm

Has anybody checked on El Paso to see if ISIS has started their counter assault across the Rio Grande yet?

2 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 7:43:08pm
3 jaunte  Sep 22, 2014 7:43:57pm

re: #1 b.d.

I’m prepared to send Guvnr Perry down to repel their advance.

4 Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2014 7:44:32pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

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Too bad Twitter doesn’t support wingnut font. //

5 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 7:47:42pm

I’ve always wondered is Richard Engel NBC ONLY war correspondent?

6 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 7:47:56pm
7 jaunte  Sep 22, 2014 7:48:52pm

re: #6 psddluva4evah

“Hmm” lets you know it’s a think piece

8 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 7:50:15pm
9 b.d.  Sep 22, 2014 7:50:28pm

re: #6 psddluva4evah

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Andrea Mitchell really shouldn’t use the term “strange bedfellows”.

10 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 7:51:44pm
11 Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2014 7:52:38pm

Here come the nuts.

12 dog philosopher  Sep 22, 2014 7:53:06pm

my proposal:

anybody who wants to run for president has to die fighting in the middle east first

13 calochortus  Sep 22, 2014 7:53:17pm

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Hints? He just about spelled it out. Nope, no ransom. Nope, no military action. Just can’t say one way or the other about a prisoner exchange.

14 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 7:53:52pm

re: #7 jaunte

yeah. she’s obviously just spitballing.

saw her on Lawrence O, seems to me she was def trying to find away to game out the Assad situation

15 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 7:54:44pm
16 Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2014 7:54:59pm

This is an amazingly gutsy move, and having the SA, Bahrain, Jordan and the UAE on board is huge. It heads off the argument that it’s a war on Sunni Islam and makes it clear that it’s a war on violent Islamist extremists.

17 Jenner7  Sep 22, 2014 7:55:21pm

re: #5 psddluva4evah

Someone needs to ask him his opinion on how to handle ISIS????

18 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 7:55:30pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Here come the nuts.

@edbrwonell: @Green_Footballs @MariaLiaCalvo I feel your comment on US President Obama is insulting to the world!
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OK, this made me laugh.

19 jaunte  Sep 22, 2014 7:55:35pm

Suddenly everyone on Twitter is a strategic expert.

20 Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2014 7:55:58pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

OK, this made me laugh.

I have no idea what the fuck he’s talking about.

21 Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2014 7:56:42pm
22 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 7:56:54pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I have no idea what the fuck he’s talking about.

It’s advanced ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).

23 ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2014 7:57:58pm

Media seems to be freaking out a bit. I guess they wanted to be told that major and aggressive attacks were to be underway by a good sized coalition and it isn’t what they expected. Now they are caught off guard on the whole story.

In other words. Whaaaaaaa! BooooHoooo! OBAMA!!! We just can’t ever peg this guy and he won’t follow our script of what we want to say he is.

I guess they haven’t learned he hasn’t ever messed around. They just fall for their own crap.

24 Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2014 7:58:31pm

Am I freakin’ idiot for not knowing Andrea Mitchell’s married to Alan Greenspan?

25 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 7:58:40pm

re: #19 jaunte

A guy from the Brookings Institute is on Lawrence O right now basically saying the same thing as this guy, and also what Richard Engel said about ISIS already expecting it.

Which seems to me to be exactly the argument the right will make

26 Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2014 7:59:39pm

Saddam had months to prepare for both the First and Second Gulf Wars…didn’t seem to help him much.

27 calochortus  Sep 22, 2014 7:59:49pm

re: #19 jaunte

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Suddenly everyone on Twitter is a strategic expert.

“Blend in with the local pop”? Because the locals don’t know who they are? And how long do they want to try to live among people who hate them just in case there are air strikes?

28 ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2014 8:00:10pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Here come the nuts.

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…And I say, it’s all right.

Nuts, nuts, nuts…here they come!

29 blueraven  Sep 22, 2014 8:01:30pm

CNN’s Jim Scuitto? also mentioned Qatar was in the mix. Haven’t heard that anywhere else.

30 Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2014 8:01:34pm
31 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 8:01:40pm
32 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 8:01:42pm

Now this, this makes my mind shudder.

If these fucks in the “Islamic State” are as crazy as they say they are, we could be looking at a human catastrophe on a Babi Yar scale.

We’re better than that, right?

33 missliberties  Sep 22, 2014 8:02:50pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Read the comments at the NYT. Conservatives are already abundantly disappointed.

Monday: Why isn’t Obama bombing ISIS in Syria?
Tuesday: Why is Obama bombing ISIS in Syria?

Because consistency is what conservativism is made of. They are consistently against Obama no matter what.

34 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 8:04:26pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

to get they “out” though wouldn’t that involve ground troops?

Obama has said, no more US ground troops in the area than what we already have.

So if the airstrikes don’t work, will people then be calling for ground troops?

35 missliberties  Sep 22, 2014 8:05:12pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

This is an amazingly gutsy move, and having the SA, Bahrain, Jordan and the UAE on board is huge. It heads off the argument that it’s a war on Sunni Islam and makes it clear that it’s a war on violent Islamist extremists.

I love it.

Plus. Isn’t Obama speaking before the UN assembly tomorrow. Yes!!

36 ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2014 8:05:18pm

Later…let the second guessing, America’s favorite sport, commence.

37 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 8:05:29pm

this tweet just calls for a “no really???”

38 Sionainn  Sep 22, 2014 8:05:47pm

re: #24 Timothy Watson

Am I freakin’ idiot for not knowing Andrea Mitchell’s married to Alan Greenspan?

If you’re an idiot, I’m an idiot, too.

39 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 8:06:02pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Now this, this makes my mind shudder.

If these fucks in the Islamic State are as crazy as they say they are, we could be looking at a human catastrophe on a Babi Yar scale.

We’re better than that, right?

Using them as human shields is not surprising. They’ve been slaughtering entire towns in Iraq. This is about as truly evil as we could ever witness.

40 Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2014 8:06:13pm

re: #33 missliberties

I had to steal that for a tweet…

41 jaunte  Sep 22, 2014 8:07:05pm

re: #36 ObserverArt

Later…let the second guessing, America’s favorite sport, commence.

“What if he hasn’t covered all the bases????
We’ll be back after these messages with a discussion of some things that could go very wrong.”

42 b.d.  Sep 22, 2014 8:08:26pm

F-22 being used tonight, 1st time in action.

43 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 8:08:50pm

re: #34 psddluva4evah

to get they “out” though wouldn’t that involve ground troops?

Obama has said, no more US ground troops in the area than what we already have.

So if the airstrikes don’t work, will people then be calling for ground troops?

I think you misconstrued my argument. If @RichardEngel is correct and I.S. fighters are taking whole towns and villages hostage after seeing initial air strikes, there’s a possibility that they are so batshit fucking insane they’ll murder every single minority, Christian, Muslim slave…

44 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 8:08:51pm
45 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:09:56pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Now this, this makes my mind shudder.

If these fucks in the “Islamic State” are as crazy as they say they are, we could be looking at a human catastrophe on a Babi Yar scale.

We’re better than that, right?

We’re not going to be perpetrating atrocities, but civilians will be killed by our airstrikes. We’ll try to avoid it when we can, but it always happens.

And no, I’m not being flippant, but I’m trying to be realistic.

46 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 8:11:46pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

Ah, gotcha.

Def agree, hasn’t ISIS already shown themselves to be willing to kill civilians to spread their mayhem.

What I see Engel’s argument as one that will become rallying cry for some. We can’t really control what ISIS will do in response, but we will be blamed for whatever they do even though, they’ve BEEN willing to kill civilians which is why they are considered evil bastards

47 The War TARDIS  Sep 22, 2014 8:12:37pm

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Erdoᇺn was supporting ISIS earlier. What did you expect?

48 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 8:16:26pm
49 Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2014 8:18:28pm

It really does stand out that not only did the President get five Arab countries to sign onto airstrikes, but also got France to assist for the second time. Meanwhile, all our other European “allies,” including David “Doesn’t he sound so tough?” Cameron, remain no-shows.

50 Kragar  Sep 22, 2014 8:19:00pm
51 Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2014 8:19:49pm

re: #48 psddluva4evah

Reminder: The White House has no international legal justification for hitting ISIS in Syria

Punitive expedition:

en.wikipedia.org

…Stowell (1921) provides the following definition:

When the territorial sovereign is too weak or is unwilling to enforce respect for international law, a state which is wronged may find it necessary to invade the territory and to chastise the individuals who violate its rights and threaten its security.[1]

52 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 8:20:59pm

I expect we will see tomorrow on the rwnj blogs, that we didn’t go far enough. We should have used nukes.

They already proposed it

Put simply, we should employ tactical nuclear weapons to wipe out the enemy. We cannot worry that Islamic civilians will be killed in the process. In the end this strategy, as was true of the Japanese in World War II, saves not just American but Muslim lives as well. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

53 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:21:33pm

re: #48 psddluva4evah

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To quote George W. Bush: “International law? I better call my lawyer.” As far as ISIS goes, other than our obedience to humanitarian law such as the Geneva Conventions, international law is a dead letter. We’re gonna do what we need to to nail these scum and we’re not going to worry about UN authorization.

54 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 22, 2014 8:21:37pm

Boom.

Here is a literal reminder that from time to time civilization will recognize an internal and existential threat and deal with it properly harshly. Not always, not always on time. But every once in a while good nations will join in a truly worthwhile endeavor and do right.

55 blueraven  Sep 22, 2014 8:22:29pm

re: #48 psddluva4evah

Seriously…Josh freaking Rogin? Unbelievable.

56 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 8:23:38pm

She sounds nice…
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57 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 8:24:51pm

re: #55 blueraven

re: #51 Decatur Deb

I’ve gotten to the point on twitter, that I’ve just gotten tired of trying to respond directly to tweets such as those. I just retweet them and let others be bothered…lol.

Although sometimes I just can’t let a mis-informed tweet from someone I respect slide, so I will respond directly

58 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 8:25:52pm

re: #9 b.d.

Andrea Mitchell really shouldn’t use the term “strange bedfellows”.

Eeeew. That’s not a pleasant image.

59 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 8:30:03pm

re: #54 Rightwingconspirator

Boom.

Here is a literal reminder that from time to time civilization will recognize an internal and existential threat and deal with it properly harshly. Not always, not always on time. But every once in a while good nations will join in a truly worthwhile endeavor and do right.

My heart still goes out to all the innocents who will die after all this. Air strikes by their very nature are indiscriminate and highly lethal.

60 Kid A  Sep 22, 2014 8:31:48pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

61 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 8:32:03pm

re: #25 psddluva4evah

A guy from the Brookings Institute is on Lawrence O right now basically saying the same thing as this guy, and also what Richard Engel said about ISIS already expecting it.

Which seems to me to be exactly the argument the right will make

Not sure how one prepares for air strikes. Other than to increase innocent loss of life - something they enjoy no matter - what can they do to stop bombings?

62 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:32:46pm

re: #52 Bubblehead II

I expect we will see tomorrow on the rwnj blogs, that we didn’t go far enough. We should have used nukes.

They already proposed it

Put simply, we should employ tactical nuclear weapons to wipe out the enemy. We cannot worry that Islamic civilians will be killed in the process. In the end this strategy, as was true of the Japanese in World War II, saves not just American but Muslim lives as well. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Yeah, because President Obama should really care about the guy who wanted to foment a coup to run him out of office. /dripping

That idea is so bad as to need little refuting, but I’ll supply a little:

Using nukes would be a war crime that would kill thousands of civilians without necessity, it would make the whole world hate the US, and it would cause hundreds of thousands of Muslims to think the psychos of ISIS to be martyrs to America’s hate for Islam.

Note: I know you were just reporting that shit, Bubblehead, so I hope you don’t think I was going after you. I was only going after that poisonous fart Larry Klayman.

63 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 22, 2014 8:34:36pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

I agree with your sentiment and regretfully have come to the conclusion that given the circumstances this is an unavoidable conflict.

64 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 8:35:00pm

Night Lizards. Time for a bath and then bed. May the deity of you choice smile down upon you and yours .

Youtube Video

65 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:35:21pm

re: #61 WhatEVs

Not sure how one prepares for air strikes. Other than to increase innocent loss of life - something they enjoy no matter - what can they do to stop bombings?

They have (by now that might well be ‘had’) some SAMs. They might try to take shots at our aircraft. But that’s part of why we’re using F-22s. Those assholes won’t ever see the Raptors coming.

66 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 8:35:45pm

re: #38 Sionainn

If you’re an idiot, I’m an idiot, too.

For some reason, every time I think of Greenspan and Mitchell, Harold and Maude comes to mind (especially the priest scene).

67 Shazam  Sep 22, 2014 8:38:20pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

While I’m sure he’d love to nuke all muslims, what he’s really doing is setting the terms for his wingnutty base. Anything short of using nukes means Obama supports ISIL. Even bombing them.

68 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 8:39:38pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, because President Obama should really care about the guy who wanted to foment a coup to run him out of office. /dripping

That idea is so bad as to need little refuting, but I’ll supply a little:

Using nukes would be a war crime that would kill thousands of civilians without necessity, it would make the whole world hate the US, and it would cause hundreds of thousands of Muslims to think the psychos of ISIS to be martyrs to America’s hate for Islam.

Note: I know you were just reporting that shit, Bubblehead, so I hope you don’t think I was going after you. I was only going after that poisonous fart Larry Klayman.

1/2 upding. But he still represents YOUR party and ideology. When are YOU going to acknowledge that?

69 Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2014 8:44:12pm

We shall have to call this ‘The Falafel War”. “The Pastry War” is already taken:

en.wikipedia.org

70 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:45:29pm

re: #68 Bubblehead II

1/2 upding. But he still represents YOUR party and ideology. When are YOU going to acknowledge that?

My party? Not hardly. You’ll not find any congresspeople nor senators supporting that crackpot, nor governors either. And as for my ideology, I can say with utter conviction that I do not share Larry Klayman’s monstrous beliefs. And I’ve denounced him and World Net Daily many times, here and to other people in real life. Klayman is a violent minded dirtbag whom I oppose without reservation.

71 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 8:47:58pm

re: #67 Shazam

While I’m sure he’d love to nuke all muslims, what he’s really doing is setting the terms for his wingnutty base. Anything short of using nukes means Obama supports ISIL. Even bombing them.

Obama supports ISIL as proven by bombing them. (RWNJ logic)

72 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:49:25pm

And the Chicago Bears hang on to beat the error-prone New York Jets, 27-19. This win puts the Bears tied with the Detroit Lions for 1st place atop the NFC North.

Next up is a home game against the arch-rival Green Bay Packers on Sunday.
Go Bears!

73 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 8:52:37pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

My party? Not hardly. You’ll not find any congresspeople nor senators supporting that crackpot, nor governors either. And as for my ideology, I can say with utter conviction that I do not share Larry Klayman’s monstrous beliefs. And I’ve denounced him and World Net Daily many times, here and to other people in real life. Klayman is a violent minded dirtbag whom I oppose without reservation.

Your right. I will not see any of them supporting him. But do I see any of them denouncing him? No. I do give you you kudos on the other hand for doing so.

74 teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2014 8:54:44pm

Some levity.

75 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 8:54:57pm
76 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 8:55:39pm

re: #73 Bubblehead II

Your right. I will not see any of them supporting him. But do I see any of them denouncing him? No. I do give you you kudos on the other hand for doing so.

Thank you. And may I ask you to take two half-updings and make them one whole upding on #62, if you would please. :)

77 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:00:24pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

They have (by now that might well be ‘had’) some SAMs. They might try to take shots at our aircraft. But that’s part of why we’re using F-22s. Those assholes won’t ever see the Raptors coming.

We hope. No sarc; this is their first use in the real world. I’ve seen Tom Clancy pie in the sky miracles not work before so even though I may hope the F-22 “Ripoff” works as designed I will not believe it until I see the after action reports.

If nothing else, as a tanker I remember how the M60A3 had better ballistic computer, rangefinder & thermal sights than the M1, M1IP, & M1A1. Only the most recent revision has actually gotten better than a 30 year old design (don’t ask too many questions about why I know this, ok? That it’s real can be found in Jane’s. I’m not sure about the why.)

Aviation is no different.

78 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:01:31pm

re: #68 Bubblehead II

DF, as every one of us on this web site, has his flaws. That’s not one of them.

79 ausador  Sep 22, 2014 9:01:49pm

Derp:
“See McCain was right!”
(even though the people he wanted to bomb were the Syrian government troops in order to support the rebels, including ISIS and Al-Nusra.)

80 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:02:45pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

My party? Not hardly. You’ll not find any congresspeople nor senators supporting that crackpot, nor governors either. And as for my ideology, I can say with utter conviction that I do not share Larry Klayman’s monstrous beliefs. And I’ve denounced him and World Net Daily many times, here and to other people in real life. Klayman is a violent minded dirtbag whom I oppose without reservation.

You’re right, that’s why no GOP Senators have ever appeared at an event with him.

Oh wait…

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:02:50pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

And the Chicago Bears hang on to beat the error-prone New York Jets, 27-19. This win puts the Bears tied with the Detroit Lions for 1st place atop the NFC North.

Next up is a home game against the arch-rival Green Bay Packers on Sunday.
Go Bears!

Given how the Packers played yesterday… 38-21 Chicago.

I’ll watch Arsenal instead.

82 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 9:03:06pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

My party? Not hardly. You’ll not find any congresspeople nor senators supporting that crackpot, nor governors either.

*cough* Bullshit! *cough*

Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group, said the country is “ruled by a president who bows down to Allah,” and “is not a president of ‘we the people.’”

“I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come up with his hands out,” he said.

Klayman was joined by a group of veterans protesting the memorial closures that followed the government shutdown earlier this month. The demonstrators, who were met by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and former Alaska Gov Sarah Palin, pushed through the barriers at war memorials and carried the barricades back to the White House, Confederate flags in tow.

83 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:03:52pm

re: #78 William Barnett-Lewis

DF, as every one of us on this web site, has his flaws. That’s not one of them.

Did you miss his lovely performance downstairs where he said that Gabby Giffords needs to be taken down a few pegs?

He’s earned his pushback tonight.

84 psddluva4evah  Sep 22, 2014 9:04:03pm

welp, I’m going offline early tonight.
Time for Golden Girls.

Golden Girls- Sonny and Cher

85 Lidane  Sep 22, 2014 9:04:05pm

Seen on Facebook:

This is awesome. Heh.

86 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:05:46pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

*cough* Bullshit! *cough*

Good thing none of that was documented on LGF, where DF might have seen it…

/

87 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:05:52pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

It seems I was wrong about Ted Cruz: He made the stupid mistake of appearing with Klayman. I doubt Cruz would think using nukes a wise course but still…

88 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:07:19pm

re: #81 William Barnett-Lewis

Given how the Packers played yesterday… 38-21 Chicago.

I’ll watch Arsenal instead.

You’ll forgive me for saying I’m looking forward to the game, at least a little. This is the Bears’ only NFC North game in the first half of the season, so they need to win it.

89 ausador  Sep 22, 2014 9:07:58pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Some levity.

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90 BongCrodny  Sep 22, 2014 9:08:35pm

Steve King also traveled to a Judicial Watch conference in New Orleans in 2009.

Ancient history, right?

91 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:09:35pm

re: #90 BongCrodny

Steve King also traveled to a Judicial Watch conference in New Orleans in 2009.

Ancient history, right?

But they’re not real Republicans…

/

92 Kragar  Sep 22, 2014 9:09:45pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Birds of a feather…

Rand Paul’s NSA Lawsuit May Be Latched to Already-Successful Challenge

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., announced Friday he is moving ahead with plans to file a class-action lawsuit against the National Security Agency.

If Paul files his constitutional challenge in Washington, D.C., it’s possible the lawsuit will be considered “in tandem” with an existing lawsuit filed by Freedom Watch founder Larry Klayman.

Klayman filed the first class-action lawsuit against the NSA’s bulk phone record collection after Edward Snowden’s leaks in June. He also filed a class-action lawsuit challenging the NSA’s PRISM Internet program.

93 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 9:09:50pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

It seems I was wrong about Ted Cruz: He made the stupid mistake of appearing with Klayman. I doubt Cruz would think using nukes a wise course but still…

That wasn’t a mistake. Cruz is a gigantic quivering pucker.

94 Lidane  Sep 22, 2014 9:13:45pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

It seems I was wrong about Ted Cruz: He made the stupid mistake of appearing with Klayman. I doubt Cruz would think using nukes a wise course but still…

Ted Cruz is a raving lunatic just like his father. If he’s making public appearances with Klayman he agrees with him.

Don’t forget, Ted Cruz was front and center at Klayman’s rally in front of the White House alongside the Oathkeepers and other lunatics where people were waving the Confederate flag and everything.

95 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 9:14:40pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. And may I ask you to take two half-updings and make them one whole upding on #62, if you would please. :)

Nope. But I’ll give you one for your #76

96 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:15:22pm

re: #95 Bubblehead II

Nope. But I’ll give you one for your #76

Works for me.

97 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:16:02pm

re: #94 Lidane

Ted Cruz is a raving lunatic just like his father. If he’s making public appearances with Klayman he agrees with him.

Don’t forget, Ted Cruz was front and center at Klayman’s rally in front of the White House alongside the Oathkeepers and other lunatics where people were waving the Confederate flag and everything.

Apparently time heals many things.

98 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:16:47pm

re: #83 klys

Did you miss his lovely performance downstairs where he said that Gabby Giffords needs to be taken down a few pegs?

He’s earned his pushback tonight.

The Giffords, though I am more inclined to agree with them than not, are very much political creatures. They knew exactly what they were doing with their actions. DF’s commentary is comparatively mild, to say the least, on that side of the fence.

So go ahead and push. Just stop playing surprised when he pushes back because - even if he is wrong - he was still mistreated earlier.

99 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:18:48pm

re: #98 William Barnett-Lewis

The Giffords, though I am more inclined to agree with them than not, are very much political creatures. They knew exactly what they were doing with their actions. DF’s commentary is comparatively mild, to say the least, on that side of the fence.

So go ahead and push. Just stop playing surprised when he pushes back because - even if he is wrong - he was still mistreated earlier.

Thank you for that.

100 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 9:18:52pm

re: #98 William Barnett-Lewis

he was still mistreated earlier.

101 Lidane  Sep 22, 2014 9:18:55pm

re: #97 klys

Apparently time heals many things.

Let’s not forget this bit:

102 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:19:46pm

re: #98 William Barnett-Lewis

The Giffords, though I am more inclined to agree with them than not, are very much political creatures. They knew exactly what they were doing with their actions. DF’s commentary is comparatively mild, to say the least, on that side of the fence.

So go ahead and push. Just stop playing surprised when he pushes back because - even if he is wrong - he was still mistreated earlier.

I’m sorry, when he acknowledges the very real harm that Republican policies that he advocates has on minority, female, and gay Lizards, I’ll stop pushing.

Until then, he can deal with the bloody pushback he gets, because if he is unwilling to face the consequences of his actions when I and many others would have to live with it, a little bit of pushback on a website is mild.

103 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:20:12pm

re: #97 klys

Apparently time heals many things.

Sometimes, time just makes you forget.

104 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:22:55pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes, time just makes you forget.

Maybe you should check the associations of your idols before posting about them, or just do some research in general before making blanket rah rah go team go statements.

I mean, once or twice I can get, but you kind of repeatedly fuck this one up. There was the bigot writing for Takimag, the fact that the ad mentioned downstairs is actually factually accurate, and now this bit about how you despise Klayman and yet you didn’t remember that Ted Cruz appeared at the rally with him last year? And that’s off the top of my head in the last two weeks or so.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 22, 2014 9:24:31pm
106 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:25:05pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

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I call “Bullshit!”.

107 Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2014 9:25:46pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

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Yeah, I think I’m gonna tag that with the 24hr rule.

108 Bubblehead II  Sep 22, 2014 9:27:37pm

Bath done. Now time for bed. DF, I’ll suggest you seriously consider who’s (political) bed you are going to be sleeping in. The R’s have shit theirs so much that any sane person rejects it. Don’t you think it’s time to do the same?

109 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 9:29:07pm

This is what Ted Cruz reminds me of.

110 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:29:35pm

re: #104 klys

Maybe you should check the associations of your idols before posting about them, or just do some research in general before making blanket rah rah go team go statements.

I mean, once or twice I can get, but you kind of repeatedly fuck this one up. There was the bigot writing for Takimag, the fact that the ad mentioned downstairs is actually factually accurate, and now this bit about how you despise Klayman and yet you didn’t remember that Ted Cruz appeared at the rally with him last year? And that’s off the top of my head in the last two weeks or so.

Point 1: I don’t visit Takimag, so I did not know Dalrymple posted there. As soon as I knew, I took down the Page I’d put up.

Point 2: I’m not going to apologize much for forgetting something that happened last year. I corrected myself, but that’s as far as it goes.

111 goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2014 9:30:59pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Point 1: I don’t visit Takimag, so I did not know Dalrymple posted there. As soon as I knew, I took down the Page I’d put up.

Point 2: I’m not going to apologize much for forgetting something that happened last year. I corrected myself, but that’s as far as it goes.

Would you consider supporting Ted Cruz for President, if he wins the GOP nomination?

112 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:32:31pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Point 1: I don’t visit Takimag, so I did not know Dalrymple posted there. As soon as I knew, I took down the Page I’d put up.

Point 2: I’m not going to apologize much for forgetting something that happened last year. I corrected myself, but that’s as far as it goes.

You took down the Page, but you didn’t acknowledge the outright-bigoted article that appeared in the LA Times that WW provided for you. And you never commented on questions folks who did see the page asked you about your classification of him as “not a bigot” and “always good, often excellent” in light of the additional information you received.

Says a lot, actually.

113 Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2014 9:33:13pm

Of course, it should be kept in mind that the F-22 has never actually been tested in combat, so we’ve no idea how effective its stealth will actually be. Most folks may not remember the time a bunch of rebels blew an F-117, whose own stealth capabilities had been touted for years, out of the sky using outdated Soviet-era SAMs.

114 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:34:11pm

re: #112 klys

I mean, the extent to which the Republican party’s bigotry and misogyny needs to be spelled out for you to see it is impressive. “I didn’t know” only flies as a defense for so long on a website where it is documented every. single. fucking. day.

115 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:34:51pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Would you consider supporting Ted Cruz for President, if he wins the GOP nomination?

Probably not. I won’t say ‘no’ as a definitive, but it is highly unlikely.

and now I really do need to take care a couple things before bed.

Good Night, All.

116 Dark_Falcon  Sep 22, 2014 9:36:58pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Of course, it should be kept in mind that the F-22 has never actually been tested in combat, so we’ve no idea how effective its stealth will actually be. Most folks may not remember the time a bunch of rebels blew an F-117, whose own stealth capabilities had been touted for years, out of the sky using outdated Soviet-era SAMs.

That was actually the Yugoslav (effectively Serbian) Army that pulled off that shoot down and they did it using optics rather than radar. The missile battle that scored the kill was also far better trained and led than any ISIS crew is likely to be.

Good night for real.

117 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:37:21pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

I’ll give you a plus for that. It’s a better response (much better graphic) than I honestly expected.

118 klys  Sep 22, 2014 9:37:41pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Note: I know you were just reporting that shit, Bubblehead, so I hope you don’t think I was going after you. I was only going after that poisonous fart Larry Klayman.

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

My party? Not hardly. You’ll not find any congresspeople nor senators supporting that crackpot, nor governors either. And as for my ideology, I can say with utter conviction that I do not share Larry Klayman’s monstrous beliefs. And I’ve denounced him and World Net Daily many times, here and to other people in real life. Klayman is a violent minded dirtbag whom I oppose without reservation.

re: #101 Lidane

Let’s not forget this bit:


re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Would you consider supporting Ted Cruz for President, if he wins the GOP nomination?

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Probably not. I won’t say ‘no’ as a definitive, but it is highly unlikely.

and now I really do need to take care a couple things before bed.

Good Night, All.

Wow. Such principles. Many backbone.

119 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 9:39:26pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

far better trained and led than any ISIS crew is likely to be.

This is the kind of shit that get’s our people into a world of hurt. Vietnam anyone?

120 lostlakehiker  Sep 22, 2014 9:40:34pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Now this, this makes my mind shudder.

If these fucks in the “Islamic State” are as crazy as they say they are, we could be looking at a human catastrophe on a Babi Yar scale.

We’re better than that, right?

They aren’t crazy. They’re deliberately and comprehensively evil. And they have already carried out massacres of civilians and of POWs. Systematic ones, not some sergeant going postal.

The strikes are welcome news, but we’re playing catchup. We have a long ways to go.

ISIS is not just on the receiving end. They’re still dishing it out as well. Bad news from Iraq: Iraqi army base falls to ISISWashington Post story. Outline: The ISIS guys laid siege to the place, Iraqi officers and high command dithered, place fell.

121 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 9:58:01pm

re: #89 ausador

Top News Stories!!!

Marvels of Medical Science?

Meet the amazing TRIPLE-BREASTED woman who spent £12,000 on getting third boob.

Whutteva…

Because, apparently, two big boobs isn’t enough of a PITA to sleep on.

Watching her do jumping jacks would make you nauseous. /weird

122 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2014 9:58:34pm

re: #26 Timothy Watson

Saddam had months to prepare for both the First and Second Gulf Wars…didn’t seem to help him much.

Or us.

123 Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2014 10:00:20pm

re: #89 ausador

Top News Stories!!!

Marvels of Medical Science?

Meet the amazing TRIPLE-BREASTED woman who spent £12,000 on getting third boob.

Whutteva…

Huh, always wondered what happened to the chick from Total Recall.

//

124 WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2014 10:04:12pm

Off to read. Goodnight all.

125 BeachDem  Sep 22, 2014 10:05:27pm

And another Libertarian smashing success. Atlas Shrugged III, production cost approx. $5 million.

Opening weekend $461,179
Second weekend $132,412 (-71.3%)

Total gross to date—$743,609

So, the answer to “Who is John Galt?” appears to be, a gigantic money-sucking loser. Carry on Randians.

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 10:08:32pm

re: #125 BeachDem

And another Libertarian smashing success. Atlas Shrugged III, production cost approx. $5 million.

Opening weekend $461,179
Second weekend $132,412 (-71.3%)

Total gross to date—$743,609

So, the answer to “Who is John Galt?” appears to be, a gigantic money-sucking loser. Carry on Randians.

So all three have now been major money pits? And these people think we’re supposed to believe they understand economics better than anyone else???

“It is to laugh” D. Duck

127 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 22, 2014 10:09:16pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

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That’s a little like my reaction to 3 boob girl.

128 Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2014 10:12:11pm

re: #126 William Barnett-Lewis

So all three have now been major money pits? And these people think we’re supposed to believe they understand economics better than anyone else???

“It is to laugh” D. Duck

It’s like the Left Behind films, which of course are getting their own reboot, namely films made by some person(s) with a shitload of money who desire to see the book put on film regardless of how much money is lost in the process. Probably abusing the ever-loving fuck out of tax loopholes to write off the loss.

129 freetoken  Sep 22, 2014 10:23:12pm

In which the AP soft-peddles the wingnutty-ness of Dinesh D’Souza:

CONSERVATIVE SCHOLAR FACES SENTENCING

“Scholar” - heh.

D’Souza: “Scholar” :: Ken Ham:”Scientist”

130 Kragar  Sep 22, 2014 10:27:09pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

It’s like the Left Behind films, which of course are getting their own reboot, namely films made by some person(s) with a shitload of money who desire to see the book put on film regardless of how much money is lost in the process. Probably abusing the ever-loving fuck out of tax loopholes to write off the loss.

There was actually a pretty cool RPG that was out about 25 years ago called “The End”, where the players were all people left behind after Revelations. Basically believers of any faith were taken, and now the survivors had to deal with the remnants of Heaven’s and Hell’s armies on Earth, as well as the return of the old gods and other creatures.

131 Not Approved By The MPAA  Sep 22, 2014 10:45:08pm

Republican Congressional majority leader John Boehner replied that he hopes the President will show some restraint regarding hitting Islamic State targets, killing their leaders and generally degrading the overall capabilities of the terrorist faction until after the mid-term elections….

132 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 22, 2014 10:46:09pm

Noticed the talking heads are saying that having the nations we have in the coalition is a big fucking deal while bubbles greenspan is poo-pooing it for not being like the one hw bush had. She is such a twit.

133 sagehen  Sep 22, 2014 10:50:57pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

It’s like the Left Behind films, which of course are getting their own reboot, namely films made by some person(s) with a shitload of money who desire to see the book put on film regardless of how much money is lost in the process. Probably abusing the ever-loving fuck out of tax loopholes to write off the loss.

But Left Behind will actually make money; evangelical subculture has a very limited range of “acceptable” books and movies they’re allowed to see, they’ll flock to anything on the permitted list. Probably multiple times. It won’t do as well as that Mel Gibson Jesus movie, because the Catholics won’t be along for the ride, but there’ll be millions of viewers nonetheless.

134 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 22, 2014 11:15:20pm

Good night all.

135 freetoken  Sep 23, 2014 12:18:23am

MP3 Audio

136 ausador  Sep 23, 2014 1:49:11am

re: #133 sagehen

But Left Behind will actually make money; evangelical subculture has a very limited range of “acceptable” books and movies they’re allowed to see, they’ll flock to anything on the permitted list. Probably multiple times. It won’t do as well as that Mel Gibson Jesus movie, because the Catholics won’t be along for the ride, but there’ll be millions of viewers nonetheless.

The reboot even stars Nicholas Cage…
Youtube Video

The old series of movies starring Kirk Cameron were dismal failures:
1. en.wikipedia.org
2. en.wikipedia.org
3. en.wikipedia.org

137 freetoken  Sep 23, 2014 2:18:09am

Ryuichi Sakamoto:

MP3 Audio

138 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 4:31:17am

re: #136 ausador

This won’t end well.

Youtube Video

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 4:52:31am

That is another of my problems with fundamentalist Christianity. We all know that the world is going to end some day, but these guys get a frigging hard-on over it.

140 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 4:56:57am

It’s sort of funny how this non-traditional, sectarian doctrine of “Rapture” that isn’t accepted by most Christians is used as a selling point for Christianity in general. That is, the preachers behind the film don’t want people to accept Christ and Christianity as such, they want them to accept a very specific idiosyncratic interpretation of Christianity peculiar to a few sects. The alternative supposedly being Hell.

141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 4:57:02am

Meanwhile O’Reilly tell us we should hire mercenaries to take on ISIS

142 Varek Raith  Sep 23, 2014 4:58:39am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Meanwhile O’Reilly tell us we should hire mercenaries to take on ISIS

Yeah, we did that before.
Didn’t work out so well.

143 Dark_Falcon  Sep 23, 2014 4:59:48am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Meanwhile O’Reilly tell us we should hire mercenaries to take on ISIS

Unlike Larry klayman’s idea of using nukes, O’Reilly’s idea has some merit: Using highly trained and very well paid men to fight some of the worst fights against ISIS might help reduce public concerns over casualties.

144 Dark_Falcon  Sep 23, 2014 5:01:46am

I’ve got to go, so I can’t comment on this dumb idea as I’d like:

Defense Distributed’s “October surprise”

Defense Distributed, Cody Wilson’s organization that created the famous Liberator 3D-printable pistol, just sent out a press release that simply simple said …

Respectfully requesting your attendance for an October Surprise. September 30, 2014.

This won’t end well.

145 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 5:02:11am

Good story, probably the first time I’ve said that about that particular news affiliate.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 5:02:15am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Meanwhile O’Reilly tell us we should hire mercenaries to take on ISIS

HURR HURR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE!!!1!!!!! BLACKWATERS!!!! HALLIBURTON!!!!!

147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 5:03:55am

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Unlike Larry klayman’s idea of using nukes, O’Reilly’s idea has some merit: Using highly trained and very well paid men to fight some of the worst fights against ISIS might help reduce public concerns over casualties.

From the newsmax article itself:

Tom Nichols, professor at U.S. Naval War College, told O’Reilly he understands his frustration, but added, “this is a terrible idea” from both moral and practical perspectives.

America can’t outsource its national security, Nichols said.

148 ausador  Sep 23, 2014 5:16:29am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Maybe the Chinese army will take some more treasury bonds to fight for us?

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149 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 5:18:16am

re: #148 ausador

Maybe the Chinese army will take some more treasury bonds to fight for us?

///

Now that’s a reasonable market solution.

Or outsource it to Nike child laborers.

150 Dark_Falcon  Sep 23, 2014 5:19:45am

re: #145 Timothy Watson

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Good story, probably the first time I’ve said that about that particular news affiliate.

Agreed. Lanier looks to be a classic “Do as I say or hit the bricks!” boss. Honestly, I’d quit rather than work under someone like THAT again.

151 Dark_Falcon  Sep 23, 2014 5:23:17am

And I’m out again. NNT

152 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 5:48:15am
153 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 5:52:41am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I’ve got to go, so I can’t comment on this dumb idea as I’d like:

Defense Distributed’s “October surprise”

This won’t end well.

Got to go? I thought you left the merchant of death industry last year?

154 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 5:54:26am

Mornin’ everyone…I saw that we hit Syria last night before dinner, but couldn’t bring myself to go online. That’s my new first reaction to military strikes…I allow myself a night to ponder the event quietly.

155 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 5:56:23am
156 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:08:12am

John McCain’s hard on killed the thread.

157 Flounder  Sep 23, 2014 6:09:51am

re: #156 darthstar

Tee hee

158 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 6:18:47am

re: #155 darthstar

Syri-alis.

159 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:19:51am

re: #158 Mattand

Syri-alis.

Stealing.

160 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:21:50am

What’s with all the people and hatchets these days? The white house fence jumper had a hatchet the last time the SS stopped him, and now this

161 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 6:23:51am

re: #160 darthstar

What’s with all the people and hatchets these days? The white house fence jumper had a hatchet the last time the SS stopped him, and now this

Good utility item along with your entrenching tool.

162 Flounder  Sep 23, 2014 6:25:11am

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

and here I have been wearing this Leatherman strapped to my belt…

163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 6:26:50am

re: #160 darthstar

I think I saw a documentary about this guy’s family once. Texas something something.

164 Flounder  Sep 23, 2014 6:29:22am

So, how much of this shampoo, “No More Tears” do I have to feed the baby to stop her crying?!

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 6:29:58am

re: #164 Flounder

So, how much of this shampoo, “No More Tears” do I have to feed the baby to stop her crying?!

3-5 liters.

166 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:30:12am
167 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:32:01am
168 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 6:35:54am

re: #167 darthstar

Grifters gotta grift.

169 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:36:51am

Oh for fuck’s sake, St. Louis!

170 darthstar  Sep 23, 2014 6:37:39am

Ha!

171 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 6:39:43am

Good morning, all. Was 41F when I woke up…YIKES!

Thinking this might come in handy eventually:

172 urbanmeemaw  Sep 23, 2014 6:42:13am

re: #7 jaunte

“Hmm” lets you know it’s a think piece

Or that Andrea Mitchell wants you to think she’s thinking. Hard. Yes, journamalism is hard.

173 Flounder  Sep 23, 2014 6:42:14am

re: #170 darthstar

At first glance I thought it was a polar bear getting arrested for ruining somebody’s wedding. Need moar coffee!

174 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 6:44:06am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good morning, all. Was 41F when I woke up…YIKES!

Holy moly! Where are you located, if I may ask?

Here in Scotland it’s still bonny :) Mind you, it never got warm by MY standards, but it did by Jimmah’s.

175 urbanmeemaw  Sep 23, 2014 6:50:43am

re: #23 ObserverArt

Media seems to be freaking out a bit. I guess they wanted to be told that major and aggressive attacks were to be underway by a good sized coalition and it isn’t what they expected. Now they are caught off guard on the whole story.

In other words. Whaaaaaaa! BooooHoooo! OBAMA!!! We just can’t ever peg this guy and he won’t follow our script of what we want to say he is.

I guess they haven’t learned he hasn’t ever messed around. They just fall for their own crap.

I must admit that I’m not as well informed as I would like to be, especially about the Middle East, but I’ve read some of Obama’s speeches and interviews in the last year and he’s made it very clear that he’s reevaluating the best way to approach the Global War On Terror, and that he thinks partnerships with other countries are critical. He’s also said that every situation needs to be evaluated differently, so when the media screamed “HE HAD NO STRATEGY FOR ISIS” I understood the context. So anyone who has paid a minimal amount of attention (as I have) should not at all surprised about how he is handling this, or other foreign policy issues. Oh, wait. Never mind. I’m talking about the media here. It’s not their job to do research.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 6:51:03am

re: #174 iceweasel

Holy moly! Where are you located, if I may ask?

Here in Scotland it’s still bonny :) Mind you, it never got warm by MY standards, but it did by Jimmah’s.

I’m in Appalachia/eastern Kentucky.
If husband was home, he’d be lighting the woodstove. I just turned on a couple of electric space heaters and put on an extra layer of clothes.
At least there wasn’t a frost; I suspect some folks up in eastern Ohio might have gotten that with their lows in the 30s.
Happy first day of Autumn, I suppose.
:D

177 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 6:52:53am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m in Appalachia/eastern Kentucky.
If husband was home, he’d be lighting the woodstove. I just turned on a couple of electric space heaters and put on an extra layer of clothes.
At least there wasn’t a frost; I suspect some folks up in eastern Ohio might have gotten that with their lows in the 30s.
Happy first day of Autumn, I suppose.
:D

It was 43 this morning.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 6:53:30am

Thick snowfall covers eastern Finland
Minor road collisions reported after over 25 centimetres of snow fell overnight, with snowy conditions forecast to continue into the week.

179 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 6:54:15am
180 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 6:56:42am
181 Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2014 6:57:02am

re: #167 darthstar

As usual, Greenwald sits back and snipes at Obama while offering nothing as a solution himself.

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 6:58:40am
183 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 6:59:14am

re: #181 Charles Johnson

As usual, Greenwald sits back and snipes at Obama while offering nothing as a solution himself.

That’s not his job to lead a country, HE’S DOING TEH JOURNALISM!!!!!!

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 7:00:14am
185 Bubblehead II  Sep 23, 2014 7:01:29am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Link: whitehouse.gov

186 Romantic Heretic  Sep 23, 2014 7:03:19am

re: #113 Targetpractice

Of course, it should be kept in mind that the F-22 has never actually been tested in combat, so we’ve no idea how effective its stealth will actually be. Most folks may not remember the time a bunch of rebels blew an F-117, whose own stealth capabilities had been touted for years, out of the sky using outdated Soviet-era SAMs.

‘Stealth’ only makes it difficult to shoot down aircraft, not impossible.

There are other ways to bring down aircraft as well.

187 Romantic Heretic  Sep 23, 2014 7:07:38am

re: #119 William Barnett-Lewis

If you know your opponent and know yourself you will be victorious in all your battles. If you know yourself but not your opponent you will lose one for every battle you win. If you know neither yourself nor your opponent you will never be victorious.

Sun Tzu

Pity more people don’t read Master Sun.

188 Bubblehead II  Sep 23, 2014 7:07:47am

Feed has gone live.

whitehouse.gov

189 Frenchy  Sep 23, 2014 7:10:13am

re: #175 urbanmeemaw

It sucks having a leader who would think before he acts. If you’re not with us you’re against us, YEEEEE HAWWWW!!!1!

190 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:12:13am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m in Appalachia/eastern Kentucky.
If husband was home, he’d be lighting the woodstove. I just turned on a couple of electric space heaters and put on an extra layer of clothes.
At least there wasn’t a frost; I suspect some folks up in eastern Ohio might have gotten that with their lows in the 30s.
Happy first day of Autumn, I suppose.
:D

Never been into that part of the US, to my shame, but I have some experience of woodstoves. :) Happy autumn!

Your page about medical costs and your personal experience really moved me. I read some of the comments on the NYT thread, as you had suggested, but it just broke my heart, as did your page. I have to take a few breaks before I can read more or comment.

191 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 7:12:26am

Youtube Video

192 Bubblehead II  Sep 23, 2014 7:12:34am

PBO Now speaking

193 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:15:35am

re: #188 Bubblehead II

Feed has gone live.

whitehouse.gov

Thanks for posting, watching now. Wingnuts are definitely losing control of their bowels over this.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:17:07am

Ben Shapiro has teh sads:

195 Bubblehead II  Sep 23, 2014 7:17:47am

re: #193 iceweasel

Thanks for posting, watching now. Wingnuts are definitely losing control of their bowels over this.

Short and to the point. We will kill you if you threaten us.

196 makeitstop  Sep 23, 2014 7:17:56am

re: #193 iceweasel

Thanks for posting, watching now. Wingnuts are definitely losing control of their bowels over this.

After weeks of deriding Obama for being ‘weak,’ he drops an operation being carried out by a regional coalition in their laps.

My Facebook wingnuts are absolutely silent at this point. Obama is doing exactly what they had predicted he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do, and they don’t know what to say about it yet.

197 Romantic Heretic  Sep 23, 2014 7:18:34am

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Unlike Larry klayman’s idea of using nukes, O’Reilly’s idea has some merit: Using highly trained and very well paid men to fight some of the worst fights against ISIS might help reduce public concerns over casualties.

Machiavelli on mercenaries.

In short: really bad idea.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 7:18:46am

So, there’s another group that got hit overnight, Khorosan Group.
I hadn’t heard of them.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:18:52am

#tcot is losing their shit, but they have plenty of shit left to lose.

200 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:19:34am

re: #195 Bubblehead II

Short and to the point. We will kill you if you threaten us.

I’m dealing with it (and the Scotland referendum decision) by listening to this:

Youtube Video

201 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 7:20:51am

re: #196 makeitstop

After weeks of deriding Obama for being ‘weak,’ he drops an operation being carried out by a regional coalition in their laps.

My Facebook wingnuts are absolutely silent at this point. Obama is doing exactly what they had predicted he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do, and they don’t know what to say about it yet.

Marching orders will be coming at noon Eastern from Rush, don’t worry.

202 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 7:20:54am

So, talking heads are wondering why the airstrikes were timed the way they were.

Was it because of the UNGA? Because they had to do so after the President spoke about hitting ISIL?

No, all these folks seem to ignore that the reason to hit ISIL when and where the Administration and its allies did was because that is what they planned to do. These things don’t just happen overnight, and the timing may have been to coincide with the UNGA only tangentially since the President will likely speak to this in his allotted speech time.

But the mission is to go after ISIL in Syria and Iraq (and elsewhere). Having Arab coalition partners helps in that task significantly, and lots of countries stand to benefit from eliminating ISIL - moderates like Egypt and Jordan or fundamentalists like Qatar or Saudi Arabia. Sunni and Shi’a stand to benefit from stopping the genocidal group ISIL - Iran and Iraq too.

Yet, all the regional powers are trying to swing things to their benefit, so their actions have to also be seen in that light.

A wildcard here is Turkey, which so far has decided not to go after ISIL, even though hundreds of thousands of refugees from the Syrian civil war and Iraqi conflicts have flooded into Turkey and that Turkey is among to benefit most from stopping ISIL. They must also feel that it’s better someone else deal with the problem than open up a can of worms, even though Turkey is a NATO member.

Turkey’s efforts at toppling Assad became a mess in part because in training the rebels during the Syrian civil war they inadvertently gave assistance to ISIL, which managed to overrun all the rebel groups all while filling the vacuum left by Assad.

Turkey can still turn this around, but they’re going to tread more carefully.

Another wildcard is Israel, but I still expect them to be a background player here, the shootdown of a Syrian jet notwithstanding. Figure on the Israelis providing intel, logistics, and special forces recon all under black ops rules.

203 Jenner7  Sep 23, 2014 7:20:58am

re: #169 darthstar

Oh no! What happened? Was it intentional?

204 Jenner7  Sep 23, 2014 7:22:08am

re: #167 darthstar

Rightwinghacksezwhat?

205 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:23:53am

re: #196 makeitstop

After weeks of deriding Obama for being ‘weak,’ he drops an operation being carried out by a regional coalition in their laps.

Exactly!

My Facebook wingnuts are absolutely silent at this point. Obama is doing exactly what they had predicted he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do, and they don’t know what to say about it yet.

I’m not surprised— they’re waiting for the fax with the talking points. *

*’fax’ is used deliberately— they’re pretty retarded when it comes to the internet age.

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

206 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 7:24:40am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m in Appalachia/eastern Kentucky.
If husband was home, he’d be lighting the woodstove. I just turned on a couple of electric space heaters and put on an extra layer of clothes.
At least there wasn’t a frost; I suspect some folks up in eastern Ohio might have gotten that with their lows in the 30s.
Happy first day of Autumn, I suppose.
:D

I’m at the point I want a frost - death to ragweed!

207 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 7:27:30am

Temps hitting 29C today and 30C temps likely both Wed & Thurs up here in the frigid Canadian tundra.

2014 set to be warmest year on record.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX.

208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 7:27:56am

re: #205 iceweasel

Exactly!

I’m not surprised— they’re waiting for the fax with the talking points. *

*’fax’ is used deliberately— they’re pretty retarded when it comes to the internet age.

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

Those people get canned. I try to keep politics to a minimum on FB, there are plenty of other sites to discuss it.

209 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 7:28:33am

re: #205 iceweasel

Exactly!

I’m not surprised— they’re waiting for the fax with the talking points. *

*’fax’ is used deliberately— they’re pretty retarded when it comes to the internet age.

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

I don’t do facebook.

It gives me hives.

210 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:30:24am

Mike Brown memorial burns and SMOTI has the video:
Things that make you go hmmmm

211 makeitstop  Sep 23, 2014 7:30:30am

re: #205 iceweasel

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

Oh, I’ve got a few in my family that are firmly entrenched in the low-info wingnut camp, linking to batshit-crazy sites, fake quotes, the whole nine.

I correct them gently every once in a while, but mostly I let them stew in The Stupid, because they don’t really want to hear a sane viewpoint. They drink the rageohol all day, every day.

I love ‘em, but I sure as fuck can’t save ‘em.

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:32:52am
213 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 7:33:40am

re: #205 iceweasel

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

I took to hiding all the political links my friends and relatives posted on FB. Now those links are all relegated to the ticker on the right side of my page, which I rarely look at or read.

I like it better that way. Makes my stress level a lot lower.

214 Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2014 7:34:47am
215 Frenchy  Sep 23, 2014 7:36:18am

Greenwald’s act is so played out.

216 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:37:43am

re: #211 makeitstop

Oh, I’ve got a few in my family that are firmly entrenched in the low-info wingnut camp, linking to batshit-crazy sites, fake quotes, the whole nine.

I correct them gently every once in a while, but mostly I let them stew in The Stupid, because they don’t really want to hear a sane viewpoint. They drink the rageohol all day, every day.

I love ‘em, but I sure as fuck can’t save ‘em.

Oh you’re so right.

re: #209 b_sharp

I don’t do facebook.

It gives me hives.

Oh yeah— Jimmah and I only recently started doing facebook, partly as a work thing— It’s just amazing how much shit it churns up. I would prefer not to do it at all.

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I try to keep politics to a minimum on FB, there are plenty of other sites to discuss it.

Totally agree— we have a lot of family members who were Yes voters, and followed us because of that, but i’d prefer to leave political discussion to a site like this. :)

217 Frenchy  Sep 23, 2014 7:39:26am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

Gleeful that a memorial to a dead black kid burned? That is SO UNLIKE ol’ Dim.

//

218 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 7:42:41am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

Mike Brown memorial burns and SMOTI has the video:
Things that make you go hmmmm

[Embedded content]

His tweet has that happy KKK vibe to it.

219 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 7:42:56am

re: #216 iceweasel

Oh you’re so right.

Oh yeah— Jimmah and I only recently started doing facebook, partly as a work thing— It’s just amazing how much shit it churns up. I would prefer not to do it at all.

Totally agree— we have a lot of family members who were Yes voters, and followed us because of that, but i’d prefer to leave political discussion to a site like this. :)

I started doing Facebook a few years ago under my real name S. Mel Schit as a way to keep in touch with my brother’s kids. Since then it’s been overrun by requests from people I don’t know and don’t care about, and my youngest full brother has gone full Ron Paul on me.

I gave up on listening to the buzzing of the hive mind shortly after it became a mess.

220 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:43:09am

re: #217 Frenchy

Gleeful that a memorial to a dead black kid burned? That is SO UNLIKE ol’ Dim.

//

The sick racist comments are swarming in

221 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 23, 2014 7:43:42am

re: #185 Bubblehead II

Just up from the subway (no cell service at all) Is the speech over?

222 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 7:44:37am

re:
#220

The only thing racist about our posts and comments is you people telling us thare racists!!!!!111 Dems were KKK!!!11

223 Bubblehead II  Sep 23, 2014 7:46:05am

re: #221 Rightwingconspirator

Just up from the subway (no cell service at all) Is the speech over?

Yep. Short and to the point. Fuck with us and we kill you. Not in those words of course.

224 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:47:09am

What’s the difference between Obama and Reagan?

REAGAN: The bombing begins in five minutes.

OBAMA: The bombing was over five minutes ago.

225 blueraven  Sep 23, 2014 7:48:54am

Constant Obama critics, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, strangely silent

226 Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2014 7:49:15am

re: #156 darthstar

John McCain’s hard on killed the thread.

Airstrikes alone gives McCain only a quarter of a chubby. For McCain to achieve maximum wood, a full-on air, ground, and sea offensive is needed.

227 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 7:50:13am

re: #211 makeitstop

Oh, I’ve got a few in my family that are firmly entrenched in the low-info wingnut camp, linking to batshit-crazy sites, fake quotes, the whole nine.

I correct them gently every once in a while, but mostly I let them stew in The Stupid, because they don’t really want to hear a sane viewpoint. They drink the rageohol all day, every day.

I love ‘em, but I sure as fuck can’t save ‘em.

I have a Facebook account but haven’t logged into in probably six months. I have one family member who wonders why none of her friends can’t figure out to Google snopes.com and find out if the crap they’re posting constantly has a shred of truth in it.

228 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 7:50:46am

re: #225 blueraven

Constant Obama critics, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, strangely silent

They’re working on it.

They’re working on it.

Give them time to craft a story for Death’s sake.

229 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 7:51:00am

The conservative chorus of HURR HURR LIBRULS R PRO-WAR BECUZ OBUMMER has started, right on cue.

These people are so predictable.

230 Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2014 7:51:05am

re: #225 blueraven

Constant Obama critics, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, strangely silent

They are awaiting talking points from Luntz..

231 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:51:13am

re: #219 b_sharp

I started doing Facebook a few years ago under my real name S. Mel Schit as a way to keep in touch with my brother’s kids. Since then it’s been overrun by requests from people I don’t know and don’t care about, and my youngest full brother has gone full Ron Paul on me.

Well, that is obviously your real name. :D

I gave up on listening to the buzzing of the hive mind shortly after it became a mess.

Yeah, I hear you. It’s freaky— you learn things about family members (or even friends) that you’d much rather not know.

232 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 7:51:30am

re: #205 iceweasel

Exactly!

I’m not surprised— they’re waiting for the fax with the talking points. *

*’fax’ is used deliberately— they’re pretty retarded when it comes to the internet age.

As an aside— anyone else been HORRIFIED at the the firehose of shit sprayed on your facebook account by family members who have a different political persuasion?

Nope. I’ve dropped the crazy ones, and the others tend back down or unfriend me when they can’t refute my stuff.

My cousin is dangling on the razor’s edge right now. He pushed a semi-birther comment lately (hopes the next President is an actual American who defends the country) and posted some Truther BS on 9/11.

233 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 7:52:36am

The racist comments are pouring in to SMOTI, his site has become Stormfront but without all the neo-Nazi regalia.

234 BeachDem  Sep 23, 2014 7:53:11am

re: #177 Pie-onist Overlord

It was 43 this morning.

70 and raining here at the beach—supposed to go up to 79.

235 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 7:53:43am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

Gee. How surprising. This is my shocked face.

236 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 7:53:54am

re:
#225

Why won’t Obama DO something about ISIS/ISIL?!??!!? He wants to destroy Amercia!!!1

Obama orders air strikes against ISIS in Syria.

WAG the DOG!!! Obama just trying to get re-elected Dictator and he should have done more sooner but not if it means putting Americans in harms way or moar troops overseas!!1

DRONES!!!11

237 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 7:54:35am

Well, well, well: guess who’s spreading their Islamophobic horseshit to SEPTA, Philly’s mass transit system?

Good on SEPTA for telling her to fuck off.

238 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 7:54:44am

re: #233 Pie-onist Overlord

The racist comments are pouring in to SMOTI, his site has become Stormfront but without all the neo-Nazi regalia.

Yet. That’s next. His transformation to full blown white supremacist site is fast approaching. All the signs are there.

239 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 7:55:08am

re: #227 Timothy Watson

I have a Facebook account but haven’t logged into in probably six months. I have one family member who wonders why none of her friends can’t figure out to Google snopes.com and find out if the crap they’re posting constantly has a shred of truth in it.

I supplied snopes links a few times to FB friends posting crap that was easily rebutted as being fake or massively exaggerated.

A few removed their original links - one even with a comment about being wrong and acting more carefully in the future. Others just kept it up and were eventually ignored or de-friend-ed.

One dug deeper and tried to claim that snopes was some sort of liberal smear site - or crap along those lines. He got “point and laugh” treatment from enough of us that he de-friend-ed us. No loss there since it saved me the effort.

This was mainly acquaintances from college - fraternity brothers from the most part and a lot of them engineers. The derp seems to take hold there quickly and grows well.

240 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 7:55:58am

re: #232 Mattand

Nope. I’ve dropped the crazy ones, and the others tend back down or unfriend me when they can’t refute my stuff.

My cousin is dangling on the razor’s edge right now. He pushed a semi-birther comment lately (hopes the next President is an actual American who defends the country) and posted some Truther BS on 9/11.

I admire you for sticking to your guns— I find it really difficult to navigate the morass of shite family members can pump out, even when you otherwise agree with them.

I couldn’t handle a birther troll, for example—good luck to you with your cousin! You never know, sometimes you can change someone’s mind— if they’re arguing in good faith, of course, which isn’t the case with many wingnuts.

241 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 7:56:02am

BTW, if you’re trying to get into Manhattan from New Jersey this morning, you’re pretty much fucked.

PATH to 33rd street is suspended due to track/signal problems that started Sunday and have led to shutdowns since.

Now, there’s no service in/out of NY Penn on the NEC due to a suspicious package.

242 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 23, 2014 7:57:16am

re: #223 Bubblehead II

Yep. Short and to the point. Fuck with us and we kill you. Not in those words of course.

Thanks, sorry I missed it. The markets are reacting. If there was real worry, gold markets would react strongly. Gold has been in decline recently and as I open up my spreadsheets right now I see it’s up a few dollars. A meh.

243 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 7:57:33am

re: #239 Feline Fearless Leader

Saw a friend posting something about the 3/5 Marines in Afghanistan losing troops in the span of a few days.

Except that the 3/5 aren’t in Afghanistan and haven’t been since 2011. People are circulating all kinds of crap and don’t bother to check the facts. It just seems truthy to them.

Snopes debunks that with 5 seconds of searching. But some people remain comforted by the ignorance.

244 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 7:58:12am

Well Feral Girl is has grown considerably.

How do I know this?

She just spilled my coffee by running under a side table and toppling it.

Previously, she would sail between it’s legs as thought it were an agility obstacle.

How are you this morning?

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 7:59:30am

re: #243 lawhawk

Saw a friend posting something about the 3/5 Marines in Afghanistan losing troops in the span of a few days.

Except that the 3/5 aren’t in Afghanistan and haven’t been since 2011. People are circulating all kinds of crap and don’t bother to check the facts. It just seems truthy to them.

Snopes debunks that with 5 seconds of searching. But some people remain comforted by the ignorance.

I chide them for failing to do any fact checking before posting links. Virus warnings, Obama destroying the US currency, someone linking to something from the Newtown shooting that was six months out of date, etc. Something that fits their preconceptions, so it must be true.

246 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 8:00:01am

re: #239 Feline Fearless Leader

This was mainly acquaintances from college - fraternity brothers from the most part and a lot of them engineers. The derp seems to take hold there quickly and grows well.

Heh, ever heard of the Salem Hypothesis?

In any Evolution vs. Creation debate, A person who claims scientific credentials and sides with Creation will most likely have an Engineering degree.

247 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 8:00:11am

re: #243 lawhawk

Saw a friend posting something about the 3/5 Marines in Afghanistan losing troops in the span of a few days.

Except that the 3/5 aren’t in Afghanistan and haven’t been since 2011. People are circulating all kinds of crap and don’t bother to check the facts. It just seems truthy to them.

Snopes debunks that with 5 seconds of searching. But some people remain comforted by the ignorance.

There’s the magic word - truthyTM.

If it feels good, it must be truth.

248 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:00:45am

re: #244 FemNaziBitch

Well Feral Girl is has grown considerably.

How do I know this?

She just spilled my coffee by running under a side table and toppling it.

Previously, she would sail between it’s legs as thought it were an agility obstacle.

How are you this morning?

Allergies. Ragweed. Must. Die.

And a planned 4-6 person get together to play cards tomorrow has morphed into a 14-15 person happy hour/potluck dinner featuring Brazilian food. O_o

249 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 8:00:56am

re: #244 FemNaziBitch

Well Feral Girl is has grown considerably.

How do I know this?

She just spilled my coffee by running under a side table and toppling it.

Previously, she would sail between it’s legs as thought it were an agility obstacle.

How are you this morning?

Full of coffee, with nary a drop on the floor - or me - for a change.

250 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:01:36am

re: #246 Timothy Watson

Heh, ever heard of the Salem Hypothesis?

I’ve seen stuff about engineers having a tendency to fall into the Intelligent Design trap.

251 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:02:18am

re: #243 lawhawk

re: #247 b_sharp

I woke up this morning and heard the news quote some republicans speaking to unity with our President. A bipartisan outreach to our man in office while at war.
…
Then I really woke up to the real RWNJ news. Ugh. Maybe I watched Inception too late last night..

252 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:02:38am

re: #248 Feline Fearless Leader

Allergies. Ragweed. Must. Die.

And a planned 4-6 person get together to play cards tomorrow has morphed into a 14-15 person happy hour/potluck dinner featuring Brazilian food. O_o

Can I come?

253 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:03:09am

re: #240 iceweasel

I admire you for sticking to your guns— I find it really difficult to navigate the morass of shite family members can pump out, even when you otherwise agree with them.

I couldn’t handle a birther troll, for example—good luck to you with your cousin! You never know, sometimes you can change someone’s mind— if they’re arguing in good faith, of course, which isn’t the case with many wingnuts.

It’s not easy. Itt doesn’t make me real popular on that side of the family. I’m already a bit on edge with them to begin with. Lot of racism in the form of “I don’t hate black people, I hate ni-CLANGs” and the such. Posting that crap that makes it worse.

After the recent dustups, I might be avoiding their Xmas get together this year.

254 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:03:23am

re: #249 b_sharp

Full of coffee, with nary a drop on the floor - or me - for a change.

Yeah, I have to make another cuppa.

255 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:04:29am

re: #244 FemNaziBitch

How old is she?

256 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:05:51am

re: #255 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

How old is she?

approx 7 months.

No one knows for sure.

She has been in captivity since July 14 of this year.

257 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:07:00am

re: #239 Feline Fearless Leader

This was mainly acquaintances from college - fraternity brothers from the most part and a lot of them engineers. The derp seems to take hold there quickly and grows well.

One engineer I know talked about how when you do a project, you need something like 30-odd points of solid data before you can start. Then later in the night, he seriously asserted UFOs are time travelers from the future, because time travel.

258 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:07:03am

re: #256 FemNaziBitch

So basically a toddler ;)

259 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 8:08:05am

re: #258 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So basically a toddler ;)

More like a crazy teenager.

260 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:09:08am

re: #252 FemNaziBitch

Can I come?

How close are you to Philly?

261 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 8:10:26am

re: #253 Mattand

It’s not easy. Itt doesn’t make me real popular on that side of the family. I’m already a bit on edge with them to begin with. Lot of racism in the form of “I don’t hate black people, I hate ni-CLANGs” and the such. Posting that crap that makes it worse.
.

My dad was a ‘conservative republican’— (no really, that’s what my mom told me to say our family was, when we were asked as part of some primary school thing)—and he used to say exactly that: Lot of racism in the form of “I don’t hate black people, I hate ni-CLANGs” and the such.
Funnily enough, he insisted he wasn’t racist and told us it was wrong to judge someone based soley on their race—but some black people are just N-clang! etc. You know the drill!

After the recent dustups, I might be avoiding their Xmas get together this year.

I understand. What a bummer though, to miss the Xmas get together.

Seriously, I think facebook has probably contributed to a lot of family ruptures— you learn stuff you’d rather not know.

262 Mike Lamb  Sep 23, 2014 8:10:36am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

Mike Brown memorial burns and SMOTI has the video:
Things that make you go hmmmm

[Embedded content]

Cockbag.

263 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:10:43am

Regarding Snopes: I’ve had people try to use it to support their nonsense, only to read that the actual Snopes article disproves what they’re saying.

The best is that people now post this shit, waiting for the GF and I to Snopes it and prove them wrong. Instead of thinking, “You know, maybe I should take a minute and look this up before posting.”

264 BeachDem  Sep 23, 2014 8:10:50am

The man certainly has a way with words…

Wall Street Journal went in search of a Republican governor and potential presidential candidate who is not a) under indictment, b) under investigation, and c) underwater in his home state poll. And they lighted upon… Mike Pence of Indiana. He’s ready for his closeup, Mr. Murdoch!…

Mike Pence has an extensive record of being quite the box of rocks, sack of hair, and bag of hammers…

The pile gets higher. Nonetheless, the search for the pony goes on.

265 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:14:17am

re: #264 BeachDem

I thought it was going to be Mitch Daniels.

266 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:15:44am

re: #261 iceweasel

My dad was a ‘conservative republican’— (no really, that’s what my mom told me to say our family was, when we were asked as part of some primary school thing)—and he used to say exactly that: Lot of racism in the form of “I don’t hate black people, I hate ni-CLANGs” and the such.
Funnily enough, he insisted he wasn’t racist and told us it was wrong to judge someone based soley on their race—but some balack people are just N-clang! etc. You know the drill!

I understand. What a bummer though, to miss the Xmas get together.

Seriously, I think facebook has probably contributed to a lot of family ruptures— you learn stuff you’d rather not know.

It’s nothing I didn’t already know. I’m just tired of listening to this shit and getting castigated by my side of the family for not being “polite” and looking the other way.

I just kind of have to watch my step, as my cousins’ kids are all grown and much larger than me (and I clock in at about six feet). The potential of me getting curb stomped by a bunch of half-drunk twentysomethings is a real possibility.

267 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:21:02am

re: #265 lawhawk

I thought it was going to be Mitch Daniels.

Not enough of a so-con firebrand plus I think his college days would infuriate the “value voters.” But then again the “value voters” overlook homophobia and sexism as a virtue so I guess they’d accept a guy who got caught with a ton of illicit drugs.

268 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 8:22:57am

re:
#267

Mitch Daniels would put people to sleep.

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

269 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:24:26am

re: #268 Bulworth

re:
#267

Mitch Daniels would put people to sleep.

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

Carson’s going to flop big time.

270 b.d.  Sep 23, 2014 8:24:26am

Hmmmm

271 Dr Lizardo  Sep 23, 2014 8:24:28am

re: #268 Bulworth

re:
#267

Mitch Daniels would put people to sleep.

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

The clown car is standing by, engine running.

272 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 8:25:03am

re: #268 Bulworth

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

He needs to get as much money as he can from the rubes before he decides to spend more time with his family.

273 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:25:33am

en.wikipedia.org

The Pastels at the planned shindig are going to be prepared on-site.

I will take pictures. :)

274 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:25:59am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

The clown car is standing by, engine running.

It seats 27 comfortably; come in, Doc! Plenty of room.

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:26:07am

re: #268 Bulworth

re:
#267

Mitch Daniels would put people to sleep.

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

Guess he’s waiting for the call from God to proceed.
///

276 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:26:09am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

The clown car is standing by, engine running.

It’s been standing by. Its just needed a driver since Mitt lost. All aboard the clown car. Anyhow, I cannot wait to see who they nominate and then if they do nominate someone somewhat grounded in reality who that person panders to the nutjob base with his VP pick.

277 iceweasel  Sep 23, 2014 8:26:54am

re: #266 Mattand

It’s nothing I didn’t already know. I’m just tired of listening to this shit and getting castigated by my side of the family for not being “polite” and looking the other way.

I just kind of have to watch my step, as my cousins’ kids are all grown and much larger than me (and I clock in at about six feet). The potential of me getting curb stomped by a bunch of half-light twentysomethings is a real possibility.

That just makes you even braver for taking them on. :)

There’s a fucked up thing going on on British facebook accounts— Britain First (which is a BNP/EDL type of fascist group—actually a splinter group from the BNP) posts all kinds of things as click bait— stuff about abused animals, or the like— just to manipulate social media and people who don’t click through to see where the post originated. As a result, Britain First is claiming to have a huge online following.
12 Things About Britain First

—I’m tired of the bullshit of being ‘polite’ too. Shit needs to be called out when it happens!

278 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:27:26am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

The GOP is casting about for anyone who doesn’t have an indictment, criminal record, or has watched their state’s fortunes implode (like Christie who has the double whammy of ongoing investigation and a state that has lagged in the recovery and has seen 8 credit downgrades since he took office - mostly because he hasn’t raised taxes to cover shortfalls in the transportation trust fund and robbed the pension plans to cover shortfalls due to the casino industry imploding in Atlantic City).

Daniels would probably fall into the Huntsman category. Would be reasonable under normal circumstances, or a GOP of even 20 years ago. Now, they’re too liberal to be considered a viable choice. The GOP has radicalized so far to the right that they are likely to cease being a viable national party as a result.

279 Frenchy  Sep 23, 2014 8:27:30am

re: #268 Bulworth

Lol, please let this happen. Between him and the constant train wreck that I expect from a Ted Cruz campaign, the laughs will not stop.

280 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 8:28:25am
281 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:28:33am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

It’s been standing by. Its just needed a driver since Mitt lost. All aboard the clown car. Anyhow, I cannot wait to see who they nominate and then if they do nominate someone somewhat grounded in reality who that person panders to the nutjob base with his VP pick.

Chris “I’m in charge and control my staff until something really stupid happens - at which point they are a bunch of loose cannons” Christie can probably go with someone like Huckabee.

282 Dr Lizardo  Sep 23, 2014 8:28:43am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

It’s been standing by. Its just needed a driver since Mitt lost. All aboard the clown car. Anyhow, I cannot wait to see who they nominate and then if they do nominate someone somewhat grounded in reality who that person panders to the nutjob base with his VP pick.

That will be interesting to see. Of course, the GOP could well go full wingnut come 2016 as well. And I’m starting to think that even if they lose in an utter debacle, it still won’t be enough to convince them they’re heading down the wrong path.

283 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 8:29:03am

re:
#271

The clown car is standing by, engine running.

Sucking up a lot of Koch gas.

284 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2014 8:29:46am

re: #283 Bulworth

re:
#271

Sucking up a lot of Koch gas.

Yup.

285 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:30:02am

re: #281 Feline Fearless Leader

Chris “I’m in charge and control my staff until something really stupid happens - at which point they are a bunch of loose cannons” Christie can probably go with someone like Huckabee.

Yes, Christie would unite the crony assholes with the So-con assholes.

286 Frenchy  Sep 23, 2014 8:30:52am

re: #278 lawhawk

McCain and Romney lost because they weren’t conservative ENOUGH!!1! HURR DURR!!

287 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 8:31:13am

Wheee!

Janice Shaw Crouse: ‘Perhaps The Jihadist Are Right’ About Weakness Of The Pro-LGBT ‘Decadent West

Meanwhile, the radical Islamist jihadist have taken the measure of the decadent West with its vast technological superiority (but moral and spiritual bankruptcy) and have decided they can with beat us with suicide bombers. And as long as we are led by thinkers who not only fail to recognize the importance of (but actively fight against) something as elementary and fundamental as the necessity to a society of having the foundational strength of families lead by a mothers and fathers, then perhaps the jihadist are right.

288 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:32:30am

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

That will be interesting to see. Of course, the GOP could well go full wingnut come 2016 as well. And I’m starting to think that even if they lose in an utter debacle, it still won’t be enough to convince them they’re heading down the wrong path.

I don’t either really. The problem they have is they have no plan for the future. In the 80’s, yes the Dems were getting their butts kicked during presidential elections but you also were seeing the groundwork of what became the Democratic Party of the 90’s when you saw guys like my own then Governor Robb, then Governor Clinton, the Senator Gore, and many other “new Democrats” elected. Instead, we’re seeing a GOP that instead of looking forward with new ideas is looking back, I just don’t see that as viable long term especially with the ideas they’re espousing being poisonous to a growing portion of the population.

289 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2014 8:32:32am

re: #241 lawhawk

BTW, if you’re trying to get into Manhattan from New Jersey this morning, you’re pretty much fucked.

PATH to 33rd street is suspended due to track/signal problems that started Sunday and have led to shutdowns since.

Now, there’s no service in/out of NY Penn on the NEC due to a suspicious package.

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Probably someone’s lost launch-day iPhone.

290 Mattand  Sep 23, 2014 8:32:33am

re: #281 Feline Fearless Leader

Chris “I’m in charge and control my staff until something really stupid happens - at which point they are a bunch of loose cannons” Christie can probably go with someone like Huckabee.

That’s as succinct a description of Bridgegate as I’ve seen. It’s amazing how many of his supporters swallow that.

Although at this point, I’m beginning to think there’s no “there” there. Brian Williams’ screw up notwithstanding, either Christie is really innocent or really good at covering his tracks.

291 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:32:45am

But remember, Gabby Giffords is out of line talking about gun control, even though she was shot in the head by someone who should never have had access to firearms in the first place.

But if you’re going to complain that it’s too soon to talk about gun control in the wake of the AL shooting, I’m going to refer to the fact that I’m now starting the gun control discussion in the wake of the Reagan assassination attempt. Or is it the Columbine massacre. Or the VA school shooting. Or Sandy Hook. Or any other mass shooting in the past two decades.

292 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 8:33:32am
293 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:33:48am

re: #287 Lidane

Wheee!

Janice Shaw Crouse: ‘Perhaps The Jihadist Are Right’ About Weakness Of The Pro-LGBT ‘Decadent West

I’ll say it. The only real issue they have with the Islamists is that they disagree on religion. If they were to somehow to make common cause, the world would be a very scary place. Great job assholes.

294 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:34:46am

re: #278 lawhawk

The GOP is casting about for anyone who doesn’t have an indictment, criminal record, or has watched their state’s fortunes implode (like Christie who has the double whammy of ongoing investigation and a state that has lagged in the recovery and has seen 8 credit downgrades since he took office - mostly because he hasn’t raised taxes to cover shortfalls in the transportation trust fund and robbed the pension plans to cover shortfalls due to the casino industry imploding in Atlantic City).

Daniels would probably fall into the Huntsman category. Would be reasonable under normal circumstances, or a GOP of even 20 years ago. Now, they’re too liberal to be considered a viable choice. The GOP has radicalized so far to the right that they are likely to cease being a viable national party as a result.

Absolutely. That Huntsman was too “liberal” shows you how nutty this party’s electorate is getting.

295 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:35:27am

re: #290 Mattand

The investigation by the federal prosecutors continues. They’ve got to go through a bunch of interviews and materials too - there’s tons of materials at the Port Authority that have to be reviewed, and the agency is notoriously opaque to scrutiny.

Christie’s not off the hook with Bridgegate, but there’s a separate investigation into how the Pulaski bridge reconstruction was funded that might put him and the Port Authority in hot water.

296 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 8:36:18am
297 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 8:38:28am

re: #241 lawhawk

BTW, if you’re trying to get into Manhattan from New Jersey this morning, you’re pretty much fucked.

PATH to 33rd street is suspended due to track/signal problems that started Sunday and have led to shutdowns since.

Now, there’s no service in/out of NY Penn on the NEC due to a suspicious package.

[Embedded content]

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 8:38:51am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

I’ll say it. The only real issue they have with the Islamists is that they disagree on religion. If they were to somehow to make common cause, the world would be a very scary place. Great job assholes.

It’s working out well in the current state for both these groups since they can easily paint the other religion as *all* being of the extremist ilk. Plenty of examples thus supplied for why you should fund them, supply volunteers, etc. before the boogy-man other side comes and kills you since they’re inhuman infidels.
//

299 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 8:39:05am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. That Huntsman was too “liberal” shows you how nutty this party’s electorate is getting.

Seriously. Huntsman is not a moderate at all, but the GOP base treated him like he was a pinko commie librul because he had the audacity to work for Obama for a while.

Dude could’ve been a serious threat in 2012 because he could say whatever the base wanted to hear but was charming and could point to his job as proof that he was willing to work across party lines. The GOP settled for Mitt Romney instead. It still makes me scratch my head.

300 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 23, 2014 8:40:37am

Good morning fellow lizards.

301 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:44:38am

re: #299 Lidane

Seriously. Huntsman is not a moderate at all, but the GOP base treated him like he was a pinko commie librul because he had the audacity to work for Obama for a while.

Dude could’ve been a serious threat in 2012 because he could say whatever the base wanted to hear but was charming and could point to his job as proof that he was willing to work across party lines. The GOP settled for Mitt Romney instead. It still makes me scratch my head.

The guy wanted to gut the EPA entirely. Not drastic budget cuts but ELIMINATE and the loony base still thought he was a moderate RINO. As I said, they need serious help. I’m resigned to the fact that the GOP is here to stay since we haven’t seen a major party implode since the Whigs 160 years ago.

302 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:45:27am
303 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 8:48:01am
304 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:48:38am

So though, I’ve been doing some reading and research about the antebellum period. While it is true that many Democrats were supporters of slavery especially in the South, you also had a lot of Northern Democrats that were opposed too. Likewise many Southern Whigs were also supportive of slavery. What we call today the Republican party was not just made up of anti-slavery Whigs but anti-slavery Democrats too. If you read Team of Rivals, you’ll see that Lincoln’s Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton had been a Democrat. That’s not to say that the Democratic Party of the Antebellum era was great and indeed two of their presidents, Pierce and Buchanan belong in the bottom tier of U.S Presidents but the DEMOCRATS WERE THE ONLY SLAVE OWNERS stuff is myth.

305 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 8:50:59am

re: #268 Bulworth

re:
#267

Mitch Daniels would put people to sleep.

Just saw on my Twitters that Dr. Ben Carson says he’s leaning towards running. For president. Of the United States. In 2016. Says he’ll decide by May.

I posted in the previous thread a picture of a vehicle with a “Ben Carson 2016” sticker, who’s making these stickers?

306 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:52:24am

I couldn’t stand Huntsman since that time during the campaign when he used some anonymous attack clip at youtube (directed against Huntsman) allegedly (! - never proven) by a Ron Paul supporter, against Paul.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Paul is scum. It’s not about him, but rather about Huntsman’s character. He’s as slimy and ruthless as the rest of them.

307 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:52:28am

11 Facts Yü Should Know About the Umlaut

7. HOW DO YOU ALPHABETIZE UMLAUTED VOWELS? DEPENDS ON THE LANGUAGE.

In German, the umlaut is ignored for alphabetization purposes, except when it comes to lists of names. Then, ü, ö, and ä are treated like ue, oe, and ae, respectively, so that variations on the same name (Müller, Mueller) will be grouped together. In Swedish and Finnish the umlauted vowels come at the end of the alphabet (…X,Y,Z,Å,Ä,Ö). In Hungarian and Turkish the umlauted vowels follow their non-umlauted counterparts.

308 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:52:45am

Carson makes Santorum look like a statesman. I jest some but my point is the guy is off his fucking rocker.

309 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:52:54am

re: #260 Feline Fearless Leader

How close are you to Philly?

Probably a bit far. I don’t like drivinging in those mountains.

310 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 8:53:35am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

So though, I’ve been doing some reading and research about the antebellum period. While it is true that many Democrats were supporters of slavery especially in the South, you also had a lot of Northern Democrats that were opposed too. Likewise many Southern Whigs were also supportive of slavery. What we call today the Republican party was not just made up of anti-slavery Whigs but anti-slavery Democrats too. If you read Team of Rivals, you’ll see that Lincoln’s Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton had been a Democrat. That’s not to say that the Democratic Party of the Antebellum era was great and indeed two of their presidents, Pierce and Buchanan belong in the bottom tier of U.S Presidents but the DEMOCRATS WERE THE ONLY SLAVE OWNERS stuff is myth.

The 1860 election was a 4-way split
The Democratic party was split into two factions: the Northern Democrats, who ran Stephen Douglas (won 1 state, Missouri) and the Southern Democrats who ran John Breckenridge & won the Confederate states.

311 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:53:57am

re: #307 FemNaziBitch

I can’t stand “uber”. It’s either über or ueber. Gah.

312 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:54:20am

re: #306 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I couldn’t stand Huntsman since that time during the campaign when he used some anonymous attack clip at youtube (directed against Huntsman) allegedly (! - never proven) by a Ron Paul supporter, against Paul.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Paul is scum. It’s not about him, but rather about Huntsman’s character. He’s as slimy and ruthless as the rest of them.

Right, he was just the least slimy of the bunch. Sad really. Well what’s really sad is they all make G.W Bush look like one of our greatest statesmen.

313 lawhawk  Sep 23, 2014 8:54:35am

Heh. Group claims Predator drone crash in Yemen and captured by Ansar Al Sharia.

Except, the photo is from 2009. In Nevada.

314 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 8:55:12am

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

The 1860 election was a 4-way split
The Democratic party was split into two factions: the Northern Democrats, who ran Stephen Douglas (won 1 state, Missouri) and the Southern Democrats who ran John Breckenridge & won the Confederate states.

Precisely.

315 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 8:57:28am

re: #307 FemNaziBitch

Also he gets the German basics wrong:

He called it umlaut from um (around) + laut (sound).

In this case “um” doesn’t mean “around”, rather it implies transformation.

The sound is “umGElautet”, not “umlautet”, as would be the case if it meant “around” here.

316 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:57:47am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

So though, I’ve been doing some reading and research about the antebellum period. While it is true that many Democrats were supporters of slavery especially in the South, you also had a lot of Northern Democrats that were opposed too. Likewise many Southern Whigs were also supportive of slavery. What we call today the Republican party was not just made up of anti-slavery Whigs but anti-slavery Democrats too. If you read Team of Rivals, you’ll see that Lincoln’s Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton had been a Democrat. That’s not to say that the Democratic Party of the Antebellum era was great and indeed two of their presidents, Pierce and Buchanan belong in the bottom tier of U.S Presidents but the DEMOCRATS WERE THE ONLY SLAVE OWNERS stuff is myth.

Have you read this author?

317 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 8:59:16am

I just can’t wait to see Dr. Ben Carson face the attacks of the other GOP clown car contestants. He’s not used to that. He just goes on friendly forums and gets softball questions.

318 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 8:59:25am

re: #315 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Also he gets the German basics wrong:

In this case “um” doesn’t mean “around”, rather it implies transformation.

The sound is “umGElautet”, not “umlautet”, as would be the case if it meant “around” here.

The whole thing is very foreign to me. I have a hard enough time trying to master Spanglish.

319 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 8:59:33am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Precisely.

Although the events of the past are important to remember and in some cases to avoid repeating, linking modern groups to the groups who participated in the past is highly irrelevant unless the ideology and intent of the modern group reflects that of the past group.

It’s very much a case of ‘what have you done for us lately’.

320 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:00:36am

Regarding Parenting Parity:

Message To Governor Brown: It’s Not Over

321 ObserverArt  Sep 23, 2014 9:00:50am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Carson’s going to flop big time.

What the hell makes him presidential material? Is it that he can talk crazy shit to crazy people? Yeah, he’s going to go far on that.

322 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:01:13am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Have you read this author?

No never heard of him.

323 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:01:42am
# 3 - I’m tired of people expecting the government to solve all of their problems by legislating everything: Similar to what I’ve said before, this is about equality. Without government intervention, I could be a slave in the fields of Mississippi picking cotton instead of writing this blog. As a black man, I wouldn’t have the same access to education, bathrooms, restaurants, employment, and housing that white folks have. Women wouldn’t be allowed to vote. Gays and lesbians wouldn’t be allowed to get married in some areas of our great nation (oh wait, gays and lesbians still have that problem…never mind).

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324 BlueSpotinAL  Sep 23, 2014 9:01:56am

re: #319 b_sharp

Although the events of the past are important to remember and in some cases to avoid repeating, linking modern groups to the groups who participated in the past is highly irrelevant unless the ideology and intent of the modern group reflects that of the past group.

It’s very much a case of ‘what have you done for us lately’.

Just ask yourself - where did the southern democrats go? Answer: They became the republican party.

325 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:02:09am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

No never heard of him.

Interesting stuff regarding “reconstructiion:”

326 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:02:30am

re: #317 Bulworth

I just can’t wait to see Dr. Ben Carson face the attacks of the other GOP clown car contestants. He’s not used to that. He just goes on friendly forums and gets softball questions.

That’s why I think Palin has never run. She can handle the left wing criticism of her because she can just bitch about the “mean old liberals” but she’ll be at a lost for words when her fellow Republicans would criticize her. If Carson runs, he’ll find out the same thing that presidential politics is a cutthroat business.

327 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:02:45am

re: #324 BlueSpotinAL

Just ask yourself - where did the southern democrats go? Answer: They became the republican party.

Yep.

328 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:03:10am

re: #319 b_sharp

Although the events of the past are important to remember and in some cases to avoid repeating, linking modern groups to the groups who participated in the past is highly irrelevant unless the ideology and intent of the modern group reflects that of the past group.

It’s very much a case of ‘what have you done for us lately’.

Oh absolutely.

329 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:04:25am

re: #321 ObserverArt

What the hell makes him presidential material? Is it that he can talk crazy shit to crazy people? Yeah, he’s going to go far on that.

I think many white conservative Republicans see him as their “Get out of being called racist” card. I really don’t know. I mean the guy’s never been elected to anything as far as I know. I hope he does run because he’ll be exposed for the fraud he is on political matters.

330 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 9:06:48am

re: #317 Bulworth

I just can’t wait to see Dr. Ben Carson face the attacks of the other GOP clown car contestants. He’s not used to that. He just goes on friendly forums and gets softball questions.

He’ll have to deal with this stuff:

331 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:08:26am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

He’ll have to deal with this stuff:

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Yeah if Carson thinks that his Republican rivals won’t pounce on him with that, he’s foolish. He’s a hypocritical asshole. He’s benefited from the same things he attacks. Makes him a typical right wing dipshit.

332 makeitstop  Sep 23, 2014 9:10:11am

re: #244 FemNaziBitch

Well Feral Girl is has grown considerably.

How do I know this?

She just spilled my coffee by running under a side table and toppling it.

Previously, she would sail between it’s legs as thought it were an agility obstacle.

How are you this morning?

We weighed Scout last night. Our little baby puppy now weighs 65 pounds, and I don’t think he’s done growing yet.

Well, I wanted a big dog…

333 Lidane  Sep 23, 2014 9:11:17am

re: #317 Bulworth

I just can’t wait to see Dr. Ben Carson face the attacks of the other GOP clown car contestants. He’s not used to that. He just goes on friendly forums and gets softball questions.

I can’t wait to see a doctor who has never been a candidate try to justify why the first job he should have in politics is POTUS. That should be a hoot.

334 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:14:20am

re: #333 Lidane

I can’t wait to see a doctor who has never been a candidate try to justify why the first job he should have in politics is POTUS. That should be a hoot.

Guys like that have a dangerous arrogance to them. Now I’m someone who feels every presidential candidate is arrogant to some degree but I think those like Carson who have never been elected anywhere have a special arrogance to them. Think Herman Cain and his Uz-becky-ecky-stan comment and how he didn’t need to know foreign policy. That’s Ben Carson tenfold. Carson is going to get a rude awakening when he’s not being told he’s so wonderful. As I said, that’s why I think Palin has shied away from higher office since quitting governor though monetary reasons are there for her too.

335 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 9:14:22am

re: #333 Lidane

I can’t wait to see a doctor who has never been a candidate try to justify why the first job he should have in politics is POTUS. That should be a hoot.

CARSON: I’m a brain surgeon…

MEDIA: Yes but how many communities have you organized?

336 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:16:10am

He’s just shown himself repeatedly as someone who doesn’t understand policy. He might be a brilliant neurosurgeon but to use a variation of the many examples I’ve seen on this, I wouldn’t want Picasso defending me if I were on trial for my life either.

337 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 23, 2014 9:17:54am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

He’s just shown himself repeatedly as someone who doesn’t understand policy. He might be a brilliant neurosurgeon but to use a variation of the many examples I’ve seen on this, I wouldn’t want Picasso defending me if I were on trial for my life either.

Ben Carson is like Mozart: a person who is brilliant in one field, but average or clueless in other areas. He is like an autistic savant.

338 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:19:04am

re: #337 Pie-onist Overlord

Ben Carson is like Mozart: a person who is brilliant in one field, but average or clueless in other areas. He is like an autistic savant.

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Yeah that’s a good point. He just seems utterly clueless. And honestly he’s trending on some dangerous waters comparing POTUS to Hitler and our country in its present state to Nazi Germany.

339 jaunte  Sep 23, 2014 9:19:47am

re: #337 Pie-onist Overlord

Like being a jet pilot, sometimes highly specific skills don’t translate to political competence.

341 Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2014 9:20:58am

Someone has been quote digging on Carson, holy cow, imagine some of this these quotes being dragged up at a Republican debate:
en.wikipedia.org

342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 9:23:54am

re: #341 Timothy Watson

Someone has been quote digging on Carson, holy cow, imagine some of this these quotes being dragged up at a Republican debate:
en.wikipedia.org

Romney successfully flip-flopped on all the issues. As did the Republicans in general (ObamaCare is basically a Republican plan). All he has to say is that he has changed his views.

343 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:25:21am

re: #340 Lidane

Michele Bachmann Credits Phyllis Schlafly With Ending The Cold War

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Lol what. Yeah when the people of Eastern Europe were demanding Democracy, they were doing so because of Phyillis Schalfry. Man that’s some good shit Bachmann is on.

344 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:25:59am

re: #342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Romney successfully flip-flopped on all the issues. As the Republicans in general (ObamaCare is basically a Republican plan). All he has to say is that he has changed his views.

Well that worked for Romney since he was an accomplished liar and the establishment’s pick. It’s not going to work so well for Ben.

345 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:26:34am

somehow, I posted downstairs, when I thought I was here, upstairs. . .

more than once.

346 Bulworth  Sep 23, 2014 9:26:48am

Carson is also a Seventh-Day Adventist—my former affiliation.

Some fundies consider SDA’s to be heretics, or to at least hold several heretical position. Although to a fundy everyone is a heretic of some kind of nother.

Still, there’s plenty of material there for opponents to work with.

347 b_sharp  Sep 23, 2014 9:27:33am

re: #345 FemNaziBitch

somehow, I posted downstairs, when I thought I was here, upstairs…

more than once.

Lack of coffee will do that.

348 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 9:31:43am
349 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 9:32:22am

re: #346 Bulworth

Carson is also a Seventh-Day Adventist—my former affiliation.

Some fundies consider SDA’s to be heretics, or to at least hold several heretical position. Although to a fundy everyone is a heretic of some kind of nother.

Still, there’s plenty of material there for opponents to work with.

Most Christians in the world consider fundies to be heretics.

(Each other too, but that’s another story.)

350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 9:33:03am

re: #348 NJDhockeyfan

That’s a new word in the evolutionary theory.

351 Schadenboner  Sep 23, 2014 9:34:11am

re: #350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s a new word in the evolutionary theory.

All hail heil der Uberkitten!

352 HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2014 9:34:31am

re: #349 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Most Christians in the world consider fundies to be heretics.

(Each other too, but that’s another story.)

That’s why I am not religious. Shrug, “Oh you believe a slightly different interpretation of this Holy Book, you’re a heretic.” No thanks, I’ll just try to live my life by a simple moral code: Do good on to others, appreciate people and nature, and have a bit of fun. And if there’s an afterlife, excellent, if not, well I’ve lived a good life I hope.

353 Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2014 9:35:35am

re: #348 NJDhockeyfan

“Hitler held a lecture over the Aryan descent of his cat.” Cover of the Dutch satirical journal Koekoek

Cat looks like a ‘shop.

354 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:36:04am

cool pix

355 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 9:36:46am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

No never heard of him.

I’ve read the two works recommended on that Amazon page though:
Foner’s “Short History of Reconstruction” and
McPherson’s “Battle Cry of Freedom”.

If you want to cover that period in two books it’s not a bad combination.

356 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:38:45am

357 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 23, 2014 9:39:47am

re: #348 NJDhockeyfan

And that right there is why the Feline Overlords made sure he lost the second World War.
;P

358 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:41:14am

I strongly recommend this book for anyone interested in African-American History —

You can just read the part from the Civil War to the Present if you are interested in antebellum stuff.

Perspective is everything.

359 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:41:33am

re: #357 Feline Fearless Leader

And that right there is why the Feline Overlords made sure he lost the second World War.
;P

They will have no equal …

360 jaunte  Sep 23, 2014 9:41:59am
361 Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2014 9:42:04am
362 BeachDem  Sep 23, 2014 9:42:34am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Lol what. Yeah when the people of Eastern Europe were demanding Democracy, they were doing so because of Phyillis Schalfry. Man that’s some good shit Bachmann is on.

From a comment at Raw Story—seems applicable here (and there and pretty much everywhere on the right wing)

Not even duct tape can fix stupid, though it WILL muffle the noise.

363 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:44:22am

This guy is on a Christian Mission. One of the few I would endorse.

He lives and works in the Very Far West Chicagoland area and does very good work for those workingto escape human trafficking.

364 FemNaziBitch  Sep 23, 2014 9:46:18am

I have to take allergy meds …

bbl

365 b.d.  Sep 23, 2014 9:47:08am

re: #361 Charles Johnson

BUT GLENN ONLY HANGS AROUND THOSE PEOPLE WHEN THEY GIVE HIM MONEY

366 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 23, 2014 9:47:12am

re: #360 jaunte

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367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 9:47:14am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

That’s why I am not religious. Shrug, “Oh you believe a slightly different interpretation of this Holy Book, you’re a heretic.” No thanks, I’ll just try to live my life by a simple moral code: Do good on to others, appreciate people and nature, and have a bit of fun. And if there’s an afterlife, excellent, if not, well I’ve lived a good life I hope.

You’re going straight to Hell.

368 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 9:49:12am

re: #367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You’re going straight to Hell.

It’s the fun place to be!

369 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 9:50:58am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the fun place to be!

… if you’re into extreme BDSM!

370 wrenchwench  Sep 23, 2014 10:00:36am

Twitter has been reading my comments here.

They suggested I follow this one:

Looks more like Word of the Month, though.

371 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 23, 2014 10:01:13am

re: #369 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

… if you’re into extreme BDSM!

meh, I think people have the wrong idea of what “hell” is. Given that what we think of as “hell” was really an invention of the middle ages and writers such as Dante (can’t remember how to spell his last name but read the inferno). It’s a means to scare the bejesus out of people so they’d do what the church dictated.

372 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 23, 2014 10:02:48am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Lol what. Yeah when the people of Eastern Europe were demanding Democracy, they were doing so because of Phyillis Schalfry. Man that’s some good shit Bachmann is on.

And I thought it was David Hasselhoff…

373 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 23, 2014 10:12:24am

re: #371 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

meh, I think people have the wrong idea of what “hell” is. Given that what we think of as “hell” was really an invention of the middle ages and writers such as Dante (can’t remember how to spell his last name but read the inferno). It’s a means to scare the bejesus out of people so they’d do what the church dictated.

Not really.

And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where “‘the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.’

374 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2014 10:35:37am

re: #373 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Unless my foot is caught in a massive rusty beartrap, I’m not cutting my foot off (nor poke out my eye) for some sort of “stumble” that some random religious people perceive as so horrible as to permanently impact my accommodations in some nebulous afterlife.
Too many really fun people are going to this “hell” place (or are already there). Heaven really does sound very boring, especially for an eternity.
Sure, maybe heaven has cookies, but I’m pretty sure in hell (if there is such a place) there will be adult beverages, rowdy singing, dancing, card playing, gays, democrats, atheists, scientists, artists, musicians and a host of other people damned for all time because of “stumbles”.
Oh, and most religions think heaven is just for people.
So just send me to where all of the dogs, feline overlords and other non-human companions go.

375 i_a_c  Sep 23, 2014 10:41:23am

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376 De Kolta Chair  Sep 23, 2014 11:01:49am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Carson makes Santorum look like a statesman. I jest some but my point is the guy is off his fucking rocker.

Is there a doctor in the louse?

377 Eventual Carrion  Sep 23, 2014 11:03:49am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Carson makes Santorum look like a statesman. I jest some but my point is the guy is off his fucking rocker.

I haven’t heard the frothy one talk or heard him talked about for a while. Is he on the down low or have I just been lucky?


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