Watch Live: The Utterly Delusional Fanatics of the Values Voter Summit, Featuring Sarah Palin

Persecution complexes rampant
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Yes, it’s that time of the year again; the time when religious fanatics, creationists, fundamentalists, homophobic bigots and social conservatives with raging persecution complexes gather to share their psychoses at the right wing loonfest known as the Values Voter Summit.

Here’s a live feed from this insane event. As I write this, Kelly Shackelford is warning the audience that the government is turning into a totalitarian dictatorship that plans to strip them of religious freedom. It’s utterly delusional.

Coming up in the afternoon session:

AFTERNOON PLENARY SESSION - Regency Ballroom

Kelly Shackelford, President and CEO, Liberty Institute*

Senator Rick Santorum, Co-Founder, Patriot Voices*

Marriage in America: The Road Ahead Panel

Representative Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.)*

Aaron and Melissa Klein, Owners, Sweet Cake Bakery*

Dr. Jerry Johnson, President & CEO, National Religious Broadcasters*

Eric Teetsel, Executive Director, Manhattan Declaration*

Gary Bauer, President, American Values*

Rep. John Fleming (R-La.)*

Governor Sarah Palin, Political Commentator, FOX News*

David Limbaugh, Political Commentator, Syndicated Columnist; Best-Selling Author*

Governor Bobby Jindal (R-La.)*

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223 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:23:23am

So Sarah who just got arrested in a brawl is going to lecture the American people on “values.” Oh this will be fun!

2 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:24:55am

Well I’m glad they invited Sarah because I think she was having trouble trying to fill the hours.

/

3 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 11:25:29am

Wow, that was a totally insane film.

4 klys  Sep 26, 2014 11:25:52am

Let me guess: the bakery owners are there to whine about how they’re being forced to serve the gay agenda.

Pretty sure they have discovered how profitable it is to be on the RWNJ circuit.

5 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 26, 2014 11:26:16am

The Values Voter Summit is the RWNJs Burning Man.

6 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 11:26:18am

The Values Voter Summit is an American version of pro-Nazi nutjob rallies in Weimar Germany.

7 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:27:37am

What do all the * after each person’s name mean? That they’re invited? Be funny for this panel to start and not have any of the invited panelists show up.

8 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 11:29:14am

Isn’t Santorum close to being on the endangered speakers list? Haven’t seen his name much in comments so I figured he was possibly simply sitting at home licking his wounds.

Though I guess this is also possibly the kick-off for him getting into the 2016 GOP clown car.

9 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 11:29:41am

re: #7 Bulworth

What do all the * after each person’s name mean? That they’re invited? Be funny for this panel to start and not have any of the invited panelists show up.

And miss all that accolade? Never happen. Street corner shriekers have never had it so good.

10 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:30:05am

re:
#8

Senator frothy mix is another one having a hard time filling the hours of his life.

11 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 11:30:10am

re: #7 Bulworth

What do all the * after each person’s name mean? That they’re invited? Be funny for this panel to start and not have any of the invited panelists show up.

More likely means “paid”. The Grifter wouldn’t show up due to an invitation unless it also included a check.

12 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 11:30:47am

Here’s the schedule:

donotlink.com

13 lawhawk  Sep 26, 2014 11:32:38am

re: #7 Bulworth

The asterisk is for confirmed attendees.

14 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:33:09am
Aaron and Melissa Klein, Owners, Sweet Cake Bakery

The Oregon bakers who shuttered their business after their decision to turn away two lesbian brides-to-be

Perfect. Christian “victims of big gay mafia” for your entertainment.

15 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:33:30am

re:
#12

12:05 - 12:30 p.m.
Book Signings - Oliver North, General Jerry Boykin, and General Bob Dees - Palladian Foyer

Oliver North. It’s been decades since he had any hits.

16 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:34:42am

re: #7 Bulworth

What do all the * after each person’s name mean? That they’re invited? Be funny for this panel to start and not have any of the invited panelists show up.

Means they confirmed their appearance

17 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 11:34:51am

re: #13 lawhawk

Confirmed as in they are ready for the rubber room? //

18 nines09  Sep 26, 2014 11:35:32am

This must be like Grand Central Station for all Clown Car departures and arrivals.

19 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:35:38am
5:30 - 7:00 p.m.
PIZZA AND POLICY WITH THE PROS STUDENT MIXER - Empire Room (Free Pizza)

Good grief, MOAR FREE STUFF!!!11

Lazy moochers. /

20 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:35:45am

Music by John Williams?

21 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 11:35:57am

Mute button

22 Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2014 11:36:26am

Palin/Heath family values.

Palin’s dad knocks up Palin’s mom, has to then marry her.

Palin gets knocked up with Track before marriage, has to get Todd to marry her.

Track gets arrested for vandalism, has to join military to stay out of jail. Returns, knocks up his girlfriend who he then has to marry. Divorces a couple of years later. Moves back in with the clan.

Bristol gets knocked up, doesn’t get married to father whose mother is a drug addict. Unemployed Bristol most recently attacked the host of a party her drunken family crashed.

23 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:36:31am

re:
#17

Confirmed as in they are ready for the rubber room? //

You have potential.

24 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:36:41am

Double down on social conservatism for the win!

25 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 11:37:13am
26 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 26, 2014 11:37:24am

My Nazarene minister brother has taken me to task for suggesting that ISIS and fanatical Christian fundies have a lot in common, even though he himself is a frequent critic of fundamentalist heresy and excess. He points out, quite correctly, that homegrown creationists, dominionists and other kooks are not out beheading people. My response is that their rhetoric makes it obvious that they would be chopping heads and burning people at the stake if they didn’t know that the long arm of the law would squash them like bugs for trying it.
Besides, that arm remains strong but it is getting wobbly around the edges, with dominionist and sovereign citizen sheriffs, law enforcement officials who have lent their names to nutburger ISIS infiltration claims, and the obvious racism of many police.

27 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:37:35am

re: #14 jaunte

Perfect. Christian “victims of big gay mafia” for your entertainment.

Thought that name sounded familiar. They sound like nice people. Really only in America does it feel like we actually feel the need to celebrate bigots like this and call them “courageous.” There’s nothing courageous or admirable about using religion as a crutch to hide your bigotry. Somehow I doubt the Kleins have refused to sell cakes to couples who have one of or both the two spouses remarrying or to someone who has worked on a Sunday. Using their religion as an excuse to deny service to that couple is a joke and always has been and I know it sounds mean but man I hope their bakery fails and they learn what they were doing was a form of Jim Crow style bigotry.

28 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:38:08am
29 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:38:33am

Stage fills with Santorum.

30 b.d.  Sep 26, 2014 11:38:40am

Any of these guys wearing a tan suit?

31 Testy Toad T  Sep 26, 2014 11:38:52am

re: #8 Feline Fearless Leader

Isn’t Santorum close to being on the endangered speakers list? Haven’t seen his name much in comments so I figured he was possibly simply sitting at home licking his wounds.

Though I guess this is also possibly the kick-off for him getting into the 2016 GOP clown car.

By the Iron Law of Last Primary Candidate Exiting, I believe Ex-Senator Frothy Mix is guaranteed to be the 2016 GOP candidate for POTUS.

Rmoney was #2 in 2008.
McCain was #2 in 2000.

32 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:38:56am

re: #28 jaunte

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Well, “theocracy=freedom and liberty” FOR THEM, and that’s all they care about.

33 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:39:10am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Look I spotted someone under 50! That’s a bingo!

34 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 11:39:23am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Diversity!
Brown hair, white hair and no hair.

35 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:39:33am

re: #31 Testy Toad T

By the Iron Law of Last Primary Candidate Exiting, I believe Ex-Senator Frothy Mix is guaranteed to be the 2016 GOP candidate for POTUS.

Rmoney was #2 in 2008.
McCain was #2 in 2000.

And Santorum is at least partly #2…

36 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:39:48am
2:45 - 3:15 p.m.
Book Signings - Glenn Beck - Diplomat Foyer

Does anyone know why Glenn Beck is still free to come and go as he pleases, signing copies of his books, when he was supposed to be locked up in a FEMA camp long ago?

37 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:39:54am

re: #34 wrenchwench

Diversity!
Brown hair, white hair and no hair.

Why hell, I manage THAT all by myself!

38 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:40:22am

re: #31 Testy Toad T

By the Iron Law of Last Primary Candidate Exiting, I believe Ex-Senator Frothy Mix is guaranteed to be the 2016 GOP candidate for POTUS.

Rmoney was #2 in 2008.
McCain was #2 in 2000.

He is “next in line” but I don’t see him getting it. Not comfy enough with the corporate crowd like Romney and McCain were. Of course, if you had told me that he would be Mitt’s biggest challenge three years ago, I would have laughed.

39 nines09  Sep 26, 2014 11:40:46am

Today; Fear. Followed by; Fear and Loathing. Coming up; More Fear and Loathing with a side of Hate. later; Blinding Fear and Histrionics followed by more Fear and Bald Faced Lies and Loathing with Screaming and Hand Gestures.

40 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:40:53am

re: #36 Bulworth

Does anyone know why Glenn Beck is still free to come and go as he pleases, signing copies of his books, when he was supposed to be locked up in a FEMA camp long ago?

It’s only because we still have our gunz!!

41 Testy Toad T  Sep 26, 2014 11:40:57am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

He is “next in line” but I don’t see him getting it. Not comfy enough with the corporate crowd like Romney and McCain were. Of course, if you had told me that he would be Mitt’s biggest challenge seven years ago, I would have laughed.

I would agree with you. Then I look at who else is actually going to be running…

[crickets]

42 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 11:41:12am

Belated apologies for putting in a link to a site allied with Gordon “Jack” Mohr in the last page. I’ve gone back and edited in donotlink - that hopefully works.

Did not realize until I looked further that they were quoting him in an approving manner.

43 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:41:25am
44 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:41:37am

re: #36 Bulworth

Does anyone know why Glenn Beck is still free to come and go as he pleases, signing copies of his books, when he was supposed to be locked up in a FEMA camp long ago?

It’s the new persecution. They let you publish your books and not only do they not put you in a camp, they let you about to sign them. It’s just downright tyrannical.//

45 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:41:52am

But no Bryan Fischer?

46 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:42:02am
47 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 11:42:30am

re: #39 nines09

Today; Fear. Followed by; Fear and Loathing. Coming up; More Fear and Loathing with a side of Hate. later; Blinding Fear and Histrionics followed by more Fear and Bald Faced Lies and Loathing with Screaming and Hand Gestures.

Conservative Vikings: Fear, fear, fear, fear, fearity-fear, fearity-fear!

48 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:42:43am

re: #46 jaunte

Oh, wow, man - Deja Vu!
//

49 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:42:55am

re: #43 jaunte

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They still want to go with that lie I see huh. Really guys, you’re not losing because you’re not conservative enough. You’re losing because the majority of Americans hear you guys blame all our society’s problems on gays, abortion, and people who aren’t conservative Christians and we wonder what the fuck is wrong with you.

50 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 11:43:05am

re: #45 Kragar

He could not make it. He is preparing for the end.

51 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:43:46am
SOLUTIONS 2014: IDEAS TO UNITE AMERICA - Empire Room

Bwaaaahahahahahahahahaahhahaha

America is full of Muslim sanctuaries sheltering terrorists, teh gays and seculars are persecuting us, common core and public education must be destroyed, Obamacare needs to be repealed…Here, let’s discuss the IDEAS TO UNITE AMERICA!!!11

52 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 11:43:49am

re: #45 Kragar

But no Bryan Fischer?

Being held too close to northern New Jersey.

53 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:43:51am
54 Testy Toad T  Sep 26, 2014 11:44:05am

re: #45 Kragar

But no Bryan Fischer?

He ran into some technical difficulties…

55 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:44:13am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

They still want to go with that lie I see huh. Really guys, you’re not losing because you’re not conservative enough. You’re losing because the majority of Americans hear you guys blame all our society’s problems on gays, abortion, and people who aren’t conservative Christians and we wonder what the fuck is wrong with you.

And that’s EXACTLY why we need Voter ID laws!

56 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 11:44:28am

Our rights are given to us by God not by man,
and I’ll tell you what rights God says you have.

57 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:44:58am

re: #53 Kragar

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Isn’t that nice?

58 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 11:45:27am

re: #56 jaunte

Our rights are given to us by God not by man,
and I’ll tell you what rights God says you have.

Bingo. This is so full of win.

59 nines09  Sep 26, 2014 11:46:47am

re: #47 Feline Fearless Leader

They are no Vikings. Scared little children who see big bad wolves everywhere and want someone to care for them. They await the Cowboy. The Cowboy. If there was only another Cowboy. Sick people, I see sick people.

60 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:47:09am
61 CuriousLurker  Sep 26, 2014 11:48:05am

A repost from a much earlier thread on Geert Wilders’ recent reappearance at the Gatestone Institute—in light of the past couple of articles, it’s not really all that much off-topic:

OT - I know most people know not to link to the Gatestone Institute since Fjordman, Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Geert Wilders, etc. are among those listed on their Authors page, but here’s a heads-up anyway:

While Fjordman & Spencer haven’t contributed any articles in about 5 years, and Ye’or in around 3, Wilders is actively contributing—in fact, he has written 3 articles for them in the past 3 months.

Don’t say no one warned you. //

littlegreenfootballs.com

You guys should see my Google alerts on these people—frenzied hategasms happening all over the place. They love this stuff. Sick, sick, sick puppies.

62 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 11:48:56am
63 sunnygal  Sep 26, 2014 11:49:23am

re: #22 Skip Intro

Palin/Heath family values.

Palin’s dad knocks up Palin’s mom, has to then marry her.

Palin gets knocked up with Track before marriage, has to get Todd to marry her.

Track gets arrested for vandalism, has to join military to stay out of jail. Returns, knocks up his girlfriend who he then has to marry. Divorces a couple of years later. Moves back in with the clan.

Bristol gets knocked up, doesn’t get married to father whose mother is a drug addict. Unemployed Bristol most recently attacked the host of a party her drunken family crashed.

Didn’t anyone tell this family about birth control?

64 nines09  Sep 26, 2014 11:49:31am

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Says the man in the Rubber Room.

65 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:50:19am
STOP LOSING ELECTIONS: IT’S TIME TO RECLAIM BLUE COLLAR CONSERVATIVES - Cabinet Room

Senator Rick Santorum (via Skype);
In 2012, a mass of blue collar voters, enough to have tipped the balance of the electoral college in favor of the Republican candidate, simply stayed home on election day. Despite their deeply-held conservative values

Bwwwaaaaaahahahahahahhaha

Let’s see, nominee Romney claimed 47% of Americans are moochers. And the mass of blue collar workers, despite their deeply-held conservative values, stayed home.

Elections. How do they work?

66 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 11:50:55am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

The whiteness is blinding.

67 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:52:38am

re: #66 Lidane

The whiteness is blinding.

There’s also the oldness.

68 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:52:40am

re: #66 Lidane

The whiteness is blinding.

BLINDED BY THE WHITE!
Revved up like Deuce, another runner in the night

69 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 11:52:47am

Santorum now talking about his stool. Oops, I mean the three legs of the stool of government.

70 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:53:26am

re: #68 Kragar

BLINDED BY THE WHITE!
Revved up like Deuce, another runner in the night

Wait, it’s not “Wrapped up like a douche”?
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71 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:53:35am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Santorum now talking about his stool. Oops, I mean the three legs of the stool of government.

Rick Perry is confused

72 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 11:53:43am

re: #68 Kragar

BLINDED BY THE WHITE!
Revved up like Deuce, another runner in the night

Damn you. Now I’ve got that song in my head.

*sigh*

73 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:54:28am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Santorum now talking about his stool. Oops, I mean the three legs of the stool of government.

Rick Santorum, Stool of Government!
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Reminds me that there used to be a store here in San Mateo called ‘House of Stools’.

74 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 11:54:47am

re: #67 GeneJockey

There’s also the oldness.

OBUMMER NEEDS TO KEEP HIS GUBMINT HANDS OFF MAH MEDICARE!

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75 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:55:00am

re: #72 Lidane

Damn you. Now I’ve got that song in my head.

*sigh*

Could be worse. I could unleash the Doomsday Earworm….

76 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 11:55:12am

re: #68 Kragar

BLINDED BY THE WHITE!
Revved up like Deuce, another runner in the night

Now I’ve got to listen to that song… Think I’ll play the Springsteen version.

RBS

77 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 11:55:34am

re: #73 GeneJockey

Rick Santorum, Stool of Government!
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Reminds me that there used to be a store here in San Mateo called ‘House of Stools’.

One of my favorites is a liquor store in Salem, MA called the Bunghole.

78 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 11:56:16am
79 BadExampleMan  Sep 26, 2014 11:56:31am

Grifterpalooza.

80 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 11:57:00am

re: #79 BadExampleMan

Grifterpalooza.

Burning, Itching Man.

81 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 11:57:42am
Dr. Eric Walsh, Liberty Institute Client, Removed as Commencement Speaker at Pasadena City College;….Also hear from clients at the center of legal drama: Dr. Eric Walsh - a leading public health expert unlawfully denied work due to his faith.

Remember this guy?

Outspoken gay hater.

82 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:00:07pm

Speaking of values…

Gah! Do they have any idea what that toy car WAS worth???

83 ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2014 12:00:30pm

I take it this is one of those gigs where the Republican deeply conservative types get together and work out how they are going to make the party more welcoming to all.

/

84 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 12:02:13pm

re: #81 Bulworth

Remember this guy?

Outspoken gay hater.


Pasadena Public Health Director Dr. Eric Walsh placed on administrative leave after homophobic sermon furor

Topics discussed by Walsh in the pulpit include: homosexuality as a sin; Oprah, JAY Z, Beyonce and as examples of the spirit of anti-Christ; Darwin’s theory of evolution as a satanic belief; and describing the prophet Muhammad, founder of Islam, as a Satanist.

85 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 12:03:06pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

Speaking of values…

Gah! Do they have any idea what that toy car WAS worth???

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But now it’s a fun planter!
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87 blueraven  Sep 26, 2014 12:04:11pm

WE’RE DOOMED!! DOOMED!! I TELL YA!!!

88 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 12:07:43pm

For the first time in a dogs age I actually managed to cover all the material in a 5 day class before 4pm on Friday. :) Students have all logged out, I’ve ‘accidently’ closed Outlook, I may go do some shopping or something else.

Yea Me!!!!!

RBS

89 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:08:01pm

re: #85 GeneJockey

But now it’s a fun planter!
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This is not identical, but the current bid is $177.

90 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 12:08:21pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

They do not watch Antiques Roadshow because it is on that “awful” broadcast channel PBS.

91 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:09:01pm

re: #90 PhillyPretzel

They do not watch Antiques Roadshow because it is on that “awful” broadcast channel PBS.

More for us!

92 ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2014 12:09:02pm

re: #66 Lidane

The whiteness is blinding.

re: #67 GeneJockey

There’s also the oldness.

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

I know I wouldn’t be caught dead at that crappy and hateful summit ever. I doubt Charles would either. And I am thinking many other older white LGF members wouldn’t be into it.

S0, can we not make this about age. After all, there is a huge group of Young Republicans on College Campuses. For some of you that are being age conscience, I’d be more worried about them than the idiots in the crowd at this summit. Youll have to be around them a lot longer.

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

93 calochortus  Sep 26, 2014 12:13:13pm

re: #87 blueraven

WE’RE DOOMED!! DOOMED!! I TELL YA!!!

Now you tell me.
I’m doing my annual “Fall Cleaning” (can you say ‘boring’?) and wouldn’t be wasting the time if I didn’t think I had at least another 6 months or so.

94 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 12:14:26pm
95 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:14:51pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

I know I wouldn’t be caught dead at that crappy and hateful summit ever. I doubt Charles would either. And I am thinking many other older white LGF members would be into it.

Si, can we not make this about age. After all, there is a huge group of Young Republicans on College Campuses. For some of you that are being age conscience, I’d be more worried about them than the idiots in the crowd at this summit. You;ll have to be around them a lot longer.

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

I hate it when Boomers are blamed for everything.

But look at the photo. You are not being blamed for the fact that old white people are the clear majority of people drawn to an event like this. The event’s promoters and participants are being blamed for the agenda which attracts those old white people.

As long as you are denouncing them, you are not one of them.

96 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 12:16:08pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

I know I wouldn’t be caught dead at that crappy and hateful summit ever. I doubt Charles would either. And I am thinking many other older white LGF members wouldn’t be into it.

Si, can we not make this about age. After all, there is a huge group of Young Republicans on College Campuses. For some of you that are being age conscience, I’d be more worried about them than the idiots in the crowd at this summit. You;ll have to be around them a lot longer.

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

Thank you. There is a privilege of being an older white person here in Texas. I can confidently go vote for Wendy Davis for governor next month without having my voter registration being questioned by Tea Party poll watchers.

97 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 12:16:43pm

My nomination for President of the US.

98 CuriousLurker  Sep 26, 2014 12:17:13pm

You know what’s weird? There are an estimated 600,000-1,000,000 Muslims living in NYC—and that’s not even counting Jersey—yet there hasn’t been a single beheading in the tri-state area. I guess we’re not Real Muslims™, huh?

I’m thoroughly disgusted with all the bigotry and the *crickets* response from leaders of the GOP, so I’m gonna go occupy myself with something enjoyable instead of dwelling on this crap.

Charles, if you’re reading, thanks for shining a light on it.

99 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 12:17:27pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

I know I wouldn’t be caught dead at that crappy and hateful summit ever. I doubt Charles would either. And I am thinking many other older white LGF members wouldn’t be into it.

S0, can we not make this about age. After all, there is a huge group of Young Republicans on College Campuses. For some of you that are being age conscience, I’d be more worried about them than the idiots in the crowd at this summit. Youll have to be around them a lot longer.

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

I’m sorry if you’re uncomfortable with the comment, but it is actually a salient point, and one not lost on the Right, that their demographic is predominantly middle aged and older white folks, and that they are NOT attracting younger or minority voters at a time when both groups are expanding while their demographic is, naturally, dying out.

No, I don’t think we CAN make this not about age. Sorry, but that’s how I see it, and I’m not a spring chicken myself.

100 Saint Stephen  Sep 26, 2014 12:20:27pm

When is Obama gonna take away all our guns and put dissidents in FEMA concentration camps? Geez, he’s been in office almost 6 years already!

Guess he’s gonna wait until January 2017 when he declares himself President for Life.

101 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 12:20:48pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

That those are mostly aged people there is a pretty optimistic fact.

102 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 12:22:03pm

re:
#94

Gary Bauer: “We’ve got a President more interested in defending the reputation of Islam than defending the lives of Christians.”

Obama has an obligation to defend the lives of Christians? As distinct from Americans and people living in the U.S.?

103 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 12:22:16pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

Off in another direction, that number is why I think the numbers of Muslims of US is larger than shown in the poll.

I am skeptical that 1/3rd of 3 million Muslims in the US live in the NYC Metro.

I would estimate somewhere between 5-10 million, and rising.

104 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:22:26pm

re: #100 Saint Stephen

Welcome, hatchling.

105 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 12:23:20pm

;)

106 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 12:24:19pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Good lord. I mean, we all make jokes about how much the nutty right in this country is just a bunch of confused old white people lashing out irrationally at a changing country, but seriously. Is there a single non-white face in there? Or anyone under the age of 50?

107 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 12:25:24pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Well, one of his first actions against ISIS was strikes intended to defend Iraqi Christians from massacre, but those people are the wrong kind of Christians. They booed Ted Cruz!!!!!1

108 JustMark  Sep 26, 2014 12:26:31pm

Shouldn’t this act be on stage in Branson?

109 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 12:26:34pm
110 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 12:27:07pm

OT:

111 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 12:27:50pm

OT, but fuck me! This explains why so many people feel like they can’t get ahead.

112 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 12:27:50pm

re: #107 Ian G.

Well, one of his first actions against ISIS was strikes intended to defend Iraqi Christians from massacre, but those people are the wrong kind of Christians. They booed Ted Cruz!!!!!1

Are maybe the necessary Venn diagram identifying the “right” sort of people is an intersection of group circles, only one of which is labeled “Christian”.

(Though a large number of us might assume that one of the circles is labeled “idiot”.)

113 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 12:28:47pm

re: #105 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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;)

Another rendering of the same photo:

114 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 12:29:14pm

BTW, on the topic of the utter derangement of the right believing that ISIS is pouring across the Mexican border, someone needs to troll these people by tweeting info about the Boquillas border crossing.

That’s right, kids. Instead of razor wire and electric fences and armed guards who shoot to kill, we’ve got a border crossing that has no guards and a guy in a rowboat ready to take you across.

In all honesty, I’m hoping to get down to Big Bend next spring, and this is one of the trips I want to take. Ride a rowboat into Mexico. Ride a burro into town. Have a beer and a tamale in a restaurant that looks like it’s right out of a Sergio Leone film.

115 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 12:31:17pm

re: #111 GeneJockey

OT, but fuck me! This explains why so many people feel like they can’t get ahead.

That chart shows the American Dream dying.

116 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:32:29pm

re: #114 Ian G.

BTW, on the topic of the utter derangement of the right believing that ISIS is pouring across the Mexican border, someone needs to troll these people by tweeting info about the Boquillas border crossing.

That’s right, kids. Instead of razor wire and electric fences and armed guards who shoot to kill, we’ve got a border crossing that has no guards and a guy in a rowboat ready to take you across.

In all honesty, I’m hoping to get down to Big Bend next spring, and this is one of the trips I want to take. Ride a rowboat into Mexico. Ride a burro into town. Have a beer and a tamale in a restaurant that looks like it’s right out of a Sergio Leone film.

I did my best. It can still be tweeted!

117 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 12:32:55pm

re: #111 GeneJockey

OT, but fuck me! This explains why so many people feel like they can’t get ahead.

Bingo. That chart shows that the plutocrats are in full control of the US.

BTW, this is never off-topic as far as I’m concerned. It’s the 800 lb gorilla for just about every US policy issue.

For example, the raving lunacy of the VVS is promoted by the US right precisely to provide various distractions from the fact of plutocracy.

118 CuriousLurker  Sep 26, 2014 12:33:19pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

I know I wouldn’t be caught dead at that crappy and hateful summit ever. I doubt Charles would either. And I am thinking many other older white LGF members wouldn’t be into it.

S0, can we not make this about age. After all, there is a huge group of Young Republicans on College Campuses. For some of you that are being age conscience, I’d be more worried about them than the idiots in the crowd at this summit. Youll have to be around them a lot longer.

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

Welcome to my world.

As a Muslim, I’m uncomfortable with people pointing out that much (though certainly not all) current day terrorism is carried out by groups that define themselves as Islamic.

I wouldn’t be caught dead around such crappy and hateful groups, and I most certainly don’t identify with Muslim terrorists or other Muslim extremists, but I do identify with Muslims as a whole. My discomfort doesn’t mean I get to deny that there’s a problem with certain subsets of Muslims and tell people here not to make it about those groups.

If I tried to do that I’d most likely get lizard-stomped.

Just sayin’.

119 ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2014 12:33:27pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

I hate it when Boomers are blamed for everything.

But look at the photo. You are not being blamed for the fact that old white people are the clear majority of people drawn to an event like this. The event’s promoters and participants are being blamed for the agenda which attracts those old white people.

As long as you are denouncing them, you are not one of them.

I know wrench. I’m just cautioning that some people not think age and whiteness makes you a tea drinking, stick in the mud, bigoted asswipe.

And there are cliches to fight. You know it is common for many to think that young people are always liberal and when they get some stuff and get older they grow-up, get smart and become conservatives.

I’m just saying Fuck All That!!!

I’m probably more liberal now than when I was in college. Even though I am from a historically union democrat background, I always claimed to be centrist. With these idiots growing more idiotic, they have driven me to being more democrat social liberal than ever before.

And I’m not blaming or pissed at Lidane and GeneJockey. I just want to make sure we all stay sharp and not make the cliched big grouping statements. That is what they are doing at the Value Voters Summit.

120 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 12:34:52pm

re: #115 GeneJockey

That chart shows the American Dream dying.

Death of the american dream would be a bit more accurate. It’s a done deal, and the only question left is: Can the plutocracy be mitigated in time (i.e., before some kind of very unpleasant revolution)?

121 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 12:35:19pm
122 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 12:36:20pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Fine just as long as the next speaker doesn’t rail against the daily 4 o’clock gin and tonic!
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123 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 12:37:33pm

If it’s relevant, it’s not bigoted. Saying “they are such because they’re old and white” would be bigoted. But that’s not what is being said. Rather it’s “these events attract mostly old people (thus they’ve lost younger people, good) and mostly white people (thus they’ve lost minorities, good)”.

124 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 12:38:41pm

re:
#121

….sets up projector to show new film, Reefer Madness.

125 Testy Toad T  Sep 26, 2014 12:39:25pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Please, please tell me he’s saying it “mari-huana”.

126 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 12:39:34pm

re: #119 ObserverArt

I know wrench. I’m just cautioning that some people not think age and whiteness makes you a tea drinking, stick in the mud, bigoted asswipe.

And there are cliches to fight. You know it is common for many to think that young people are always liberal and when they get some stuff and get older they grow-up, get smart and become conservatives.

I’m just saying Fuck All That!!!

I’m probably more liberal now than when I was in college. Even though I am from a historically union democrat background, I always claimed to be centrist. With these idiots growing more idiotic, they have driven me to being more democrat social liberal than ever before.

And I’m not blaming or pissed at Lidane and GeneJockey. I just want to make sure we all stay sharp and not make the cliched big grouping statements. That is what they are doing at the Value Voters Summit.

I was always liberal myself, but as I’ve grown older, I’ve become EVEN MORE liberal. But there’s a big difference between observing that the vast majority of Teabaggers are older white folks and saying that older white folks are Teabaggers.

The age and racial makeup of the Tea Party is not just a random correlation. It is an important part of why the Tea Party came into existence - it is the defender of white privilege, as experienced by white people of my generation and older.

127 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 12:40:13pm

Expect some RWNJ herpty derp about this:

California Passes Bill Limiting Display of Confederate Flag

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill on Thursday that effectively bans state agencies from displaying or selling items bearing the Confederate flag.

The bill was introduced by an African-American assemblyman who contended that the flag is racist because it symbolizes the American southern states’ historical support for slavery. The bill was introduced after the state assemblyman, Isadore Hall, said his mother saw items at the Capitol Gift Shop in the state capital of Sacramento bearing the Confederate flag.

The bill passed 66-1, and the lone dissenter was a Republican who argued banning the flag would impede on First Amendment rights to free speech.

All indications are that California residents will still be allowed to use and display them privately, and will also be able to display them while protesting on state property.

The bill takes effect in January 2015.

128 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 12:40:27pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Is he warning them of the devil-inspired music by these hep young British men called The Rolling Stones?

129 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 12:41:31pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

I did my best. It can still be tweeted!

Fantastic. 2011 was before my time. I joined LGF on election night, 2012.

130 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 12:42:17pm

re: #128 Ian G.

Is he warning them of the devil-inspired music by these hep young British men called The Rolling Stones?

Careful there. From that you can tell them that Merry Clayton sang on both “Gimme Shelter” and “Sweet Home Alabama”. Which will probably make their heads explode.

:)

131 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:44:43pm

re: #126 GeneJockey

The age and racial makeup of the Tea Party is not just a random correlation. It is an important part of why the Tea Party came into existence - it is the defender of white privilege, as experienced by white people of my generation and older.

THIS.

132 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 12:45:21pm
133 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 26, 2014 12:46:44pm

re: #101 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That those are mostly aged people there is a pretty optimistic fact.

And many of the younger ones are “alternate health care” adherents and antivaxxers, adding to the possibility that they will self-eliminate. Sad about the kids though.

134 ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2014 12:46:59pm

re: #118 CuriousLurker

Welcome to my world.

As a Muslim, I’m uncomfortable with people pointing out that much (though certainly not all) current day terrorism is carried out by groups that define themselves as Islamic.

I wouldn’t be caught dead around such crappy and hateful groups, and I most certainly don’t identify with Muslim terrorists or other Muslim extremists, but I do identify with Muslims as a whole. My discomfort doesn’t mean I get to deny that there’s a problem with certain subsets of Muslims and tell people here not to make it about those groups.

If I tried to do that I’d most likely get lizard-stomped.

Just sayin’.

I’m not trying to tell anybody anything and I am not denying anything. Just pointing out that a general sweeping statement includes many individuals.

Individuals. That is key. You are 1. I am 1.

And I hate group thinking. I am way too individual, and that is why I commented as I did. With that, I am going to do something else…I’m not in a good place with a lot of the world this week.

135 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 12:47:47pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Here is a question. How the he’ll are they different from the nuts we are fighting now?

136 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 12:49:30pm

I love JoeMyGod. And I’m not even a card carrying member of the gay mafia

137 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 12:50:02pm

re: #135 The War TARDIS

Here is a question. How the he’ll are they different from the nuts we are fighting now?

They are filled with the love of Jesus! THATS IS HOW!

138 Bulworth  Sep 26, 2014 12:50:14pm

re:
#136

Yeah he’s a must follow.

139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 12:50:41pm

re: #135 The War TARDIS

Here is a question. How the he’ll are they different from the nuts we are fighting now?

Less beard.

140 rhuarc  Sep 26, 2014 12:50:59pm

re: #135 The War TARDIS

Here is a question. How the he’ll are they different from the nuts we are fighting now?

Because Bible!

141 dholmes32  Sep 26, 2014 12:51:26pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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Good thing I’m not in the room, I probably would walk up to the guy and yell at him (due to family members with schizophrenia and no pot in the vicinity). Jeez, sounds like the 21st century version of “Reefer Madness.”

142 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 12:51:28pm

re: #135 The War TARDIS

Here is a question. How the he’ll are they different from the nuts we are fighting now?

If your question is how the VVS crowd differs from ISIL, I’d say the main difference is that the VVS crowd believes (for now) that they can get what they want via the normal US political process. ISIL is committed to using violence to try to get what they want.

143 TedStriker  Sep 26, 2014 12:52:53pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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The wizened whiteness is blinding…

144 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 12:55:30pm

re: #118 CuriousLurker

Welcome to my world.

As a Muslim, I’m uncomfortable with people pointing out that much (though certainly not all) current day terrorism is carried out by groups that define themselves as Islamic.

I wouldn’t be caught dead around such crappy and hateful groups, and I most certainly don’t identify with Muslim terrorists or other Muslim extremists, but I do identify with Muslims as a whole. My discomfort doesn’t mean I get to deny that there’s a problem with certain subsets of Muslims and tell people here not to make it about those groups.

If I tried to do that I’d most likely get lizard-stomped.

Just sayin’.

And THIS, too.

Privilege can be gained and lost with appearance. Pass as white? Gained. Adopt a hijab? Lost. Dress in an Armani suit? Gained. Quit shaving and let clothes turn to rags? Lost.

Not everyone can drop that which loses them their privilege. Many would not want to. It’s a part of their identity, their most personal self.

Nor should one want to drop that which gives them their privilege. Frank says there’s a whole lot of times he wishes he weren’t white, but really it’s an expression of shame at what other white people are doing.

If you’re not participating in oppression, there’s no shame in sharing involuntary [edit: or voluntary] characteristics with the oppressors. But there’s nothing to be gained by saying ‘I’m white and I don’t do that’. Just call out your fellow white folks when they do that.

145 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 12:57:08pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

If your question is how the VVS crowd differs from ISIL, I’d say the main difference is that the VVS crowd believes (for now) that they can get what they want via the normal US political process. ISIL is committed to using violence to try to get what they want.

That might indicate more about where their prospective bases are from and how political change is implemented in those places.

Beyond that ISIL and the US religious right nuts share a lot in terms in intolerance, rhetoric, and blaming various groups as scapegoats.

146 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 1:00:44pm

I wonder if Germany is thinking of banning American immigration and deporting all of the current Americans residing there.
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nbcnews.com

(Also note from the article how rare it is for German police to use their guns.)

147 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:01:02pm
148 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:02:07pm
149 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 1:04:45pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

But even that isn’t quite true.

They are still looking for the cop killer in PA. And Doug Lamborn is almost calling for an uprising.

150 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 1:05:22pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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She should try baking Martyr Cookies.

Nah, she’d eat ‘em all.

151 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:05:22pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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I wonder how they’d react to a baker saying, “I’m sorry, but my religion forbids me making you a cake because you and your fiance are Christian.”

152 CuriousLurker  Sep 26, 2014 1:05:43pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

I’m not trying to tell anybody anything and I am not denying anything. Just pointing out that a general sweeping statement includes many individuals.

Individuals. That is key. You are 1. I am 1.

And I hate group thinking. I am way too individual, and that is why I commented as I did. With that, I am going to do something else…

No one made a general sweeping statement. In your #92 you responded to comments made by Lidane & GeneJockey, both of which were responses specifically to the photo in Charles’ #25.

It made you uncomfortable—I GET IT—I’ve been there, I AM there. Just be thankful there are no groups of older white people kidnapping, raping, and beheading innocents, or public figures appearing at events saying that elderly white people should be deported or killed.

I’m not in a good place with a lot of the world this week.

Yeah, me neither.

Later, lizards.

153 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:06:24pm
154 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:07:33pm
155 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:08:26pm
156 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 1:09:44pm

re: #149 The War TARDIS

But even that isn’t quite true.

They are still looking for the cop killer in PA. And Doug Lamborn is almost calling for an uprising.

Yes, there is violence at the fringes of the US hard right. For now, the VVS types are keeping some (not enough, of course) distance between their views and the views of Stormfront and the ideology-driven cop killers.

As others here have said, the most dangerous time will be just after the US hard right is decisively defeated in enough elections that they lose their faith in being able to win elections.

157 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:11:32pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

If your question is how the VVS crowd differs from ISIL, I’d say the main difference is that the VVS crowd believes (for now) that they can get what they want via the normal US political process. ISIL is committed to using violence to try to get what they want.

One big difference is that the VVS crowd is part of the power structure here. They see themselves as losing that power, and they threaten violence if they lose more.

ISIS, OTOH, is NOT part of the power structure where they are, and indeed a number of their allies in Iraq are Sunnis who had apparently been shut out by the Maliki government.

People out of power, with no chance of getting into power without violence are prone to resort to it. People IN power who fear losing it may also be prone to violence, but weigh that urge against the potential of losing the battle and thus losing more power. If they feel pushed far enough, they will become violent.

158 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:11:53pm

Nice to hear he supports forcing Fundies to recognize SSM.

What else could he possibly mean?

159 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:12:58pm
160 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:14:08pm
Jerry Johnson thinks Americans are living under a “self-imposed Sharia law” on issue of gay marriage

I’d really, really like to hear someone attempt to explain how that works, exactly.

161 steve_davis  Sep 26, 2014 1:14:34pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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The photographer needs to adjust his white balance.

162 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:15:43pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

I’m not trying to tell anybody anything and I am not denying anything. Just pointing out that a general sweeping statement includes many individuals.

Individuals. That is key. You are 1. I am 1.

And I hate group thinking. I am way too individual, and that is why I commented as I did. With that, I am going to do something else…I’m not in a good place with a lot of the world this week.

Frankly, the world is pretty fucked up this week.

163 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 26, 2014 1:17:16pm
164 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:18:44pm

Uh oh, the live feed stops working just as the Palin-thing is scheduled.

CONSPIRACY!

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 26, 2014 1:19:06pm

re: #151 GeneJockey

I wonder how they’d react to a baker saying, “I’m sorry, but my religion forbids me making you a cake because you and your fiance are Christian.”

Gnashing of teeth, clutching of pearls, and cries that they are being oppressed. Of course.
/

166 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 1:20:23pm

re: #163 NJDhockeyfan

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Your argument is invalid!

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167 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 1:20:57pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

I would estimate that to be 2024.

168 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 1:21:01pm

Fifteen years ago, then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott found himself in hot water when it was revealed that he had addressed the racist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) on at least five occasions.

U.S. Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia was also engulfed in the controversy, because he had given the keynote speech at the white supremacist group’s national convention in 1998.

Once the group’s racism became known, GOP Chair Jim Nicholson did the only responsible thing: He asked party members to resign from the CCC. Following his plea, senior members of Congress shunned the group. Both Lott and Barr said they had been unaware of the group’s racism.

Which leads us to today. If racism is anathema to the GOP, why isn’t overt anti-LGBT bigotry equally repellent?

Why do politicians like Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal still think it’s OK to speak to groups that vilify the LGBT community with outrageous propaganda and demonizing falsehoods?

All three are among the speakers at the Values Voter Summit that begins today in Washington.

[…]

Our letter asks a simple question: Will the GOP condemn anti-LGBT bigotry as vigorously as it opposed racism 15 years ago?”

169 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:22:27pm

Is the live feed working for anyone? It’s totally stalled for me.

170 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 1:23:42pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Is the live feed working for anyone? It’s totally stalled for me.

Mute button still works. But no, nothing’s moving.

171 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:25:14pm

There it is.

172 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:26:27pm

re: #163 NJDhockeyfan

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“My hat? Oh, it’s just anole one!”

173 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:26:50pm
174 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:28:32pm
175 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:28:47pm
176 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:28:58pm
177 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 1:29:30pm

Did she say 1400??

178 blueraven  Sep 26, 2014 1:30:10pm

re: #177 Jenner7

Did she say 1400??

affirmative

179 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:30:40pm
180 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 1:30:43pm

re: #172 GeneJockey

“My hat? Oh, it’s just anole one!”

If ii chuckle I have to upding, but you get a “Gibbs smack” along with that

181 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 1:30:57pm

re: #178 blueraven

Hahahahahaha! Awesome.

182 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 1:31:35pm
183 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 1:31:50pm

re: #119 ObserverArt

In case it might make you feel better…

It’s about an article at Vice, I think.

184 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:31:58pm
185 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 26, 2014 1:32:07pm

Now I want to go and visit Ellis Island again…

186 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 26, 2014 1:32:34pm

You can’t make me watch that!

187 blueraven  Sep 26, 2014 1:33:17pm

Go home Sarah, you’re drunk.

188 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 1:33:31pm

I’ve found this videofeed of Palin’s speech.

Youtube Video

189 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 1:33:53pm

re: #186 Rev_Arthur_Belling

You can’t make me watch that!

Don’t make us go Clockwork Orange on you….

190 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 1:34:41pm

re: #187 blueraven

Go home Sarah, you’re drunk.

That’s not nice.

They’re enjoying their break from her up there.

191 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:35:15pm
192 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:36:08pm
193 Varek Raith  Sep 26, 2014 1:36:27pm

1400!
trulia.com

194 TedStriker  Sep 26, 2014 1:37:10pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

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195 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:37:19pm
196 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 26, 2014 1:38:09pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I think I am a bit uncomfortable with this line of comment. Sorry.

I am an older white guy. So, is our host Charles as are many a member.

-snip-

There is plenty of different aged nuts to deal with.

Thanks!

Well bless your little heart.

197 Ian G.  Sep 26, 2014 1:40:18pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

This really sums up the mindset of the American right quite nicely.

Hey, David Frum, are you reading this? These are your comrades, man.

198 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 1:40:18pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

Don’t make us go Clockwork Orange on you….

199 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2014 1:42:19pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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“boyfriend” Obama…they’ve seen the ad…
:D

200 KerFuFFler  Sep 26, 2014 1:43:52pm

re: #173 Kragar

Sarah Palin tells anti-gay, anti-Muslim conference: “I’m speaking to the most slandered group in America today”

Oh, who can stand up for the voiceless, marginalized white christian majority….?

The victimhood is strong in this one.

201 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:44:35pm
202 Varek Raith  Sep 26, 2014 1:44:45pm

Youtube Video

203 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 1:45:53pm

re: #193 Varek Raith

1400!
trulia.com

Bummer there’s no tweet button on trulia.

204 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:46:22pm
205 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 1:48:43pm

re: #200 KerFuFFler

Oh, who can stand up for the voiceless, marginalized white christian majority….?

The victimhood is strong in this one.

It’s why they love her. She can barely fight her way through three sentences without fucking it up, but she taps directly into their resentment and victimhood.

206 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 1:48:44pm
207 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 1:49:43pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

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This one obviously stung.

208 WhatEVs  Sep 26, 2014 1:51:00pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

Look at that woman’s timeline. She’s as crazy as a Gohmert sandwich with a side of Palin and Bachmann fries.

209 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:51:05pm
210 klys  Sep 26, 2014 1:51:19pm

From the downstairs discussion, apparently this is somehow distorting the past?

Yeah, I find it very entertaining that the Right thinks they want Reagan against ISIS - the guy who cut and ran from Beirut after 241 Marines were killed; the man who sold arms to Iran in exchange for hostages, then used the money to support death squads in defiance of Congress; the man who negotiated with our adversaries without precondition.

Someone want to clarify for me how this distorts the past? I’m lost.

211 Ryan King  Sep 26, 2014 1:52:43pm

Bachmann Jihad Overdrive

Lulz from Raw Story.

212 Kid A  Sep 26, 2014 1:55:02pm

Will Rush Limbaugh be the lead speaker on the “Marriage in America: The Way Forward” panel?

213 Ryan King  Sep 26, 2014 1:56:51pm

re: #212 Kid A

Will Rush Limbaugh be the lead speaker on the “Marriage in America: The Way Forward” panel?

That’s after Dinesh D’Souza’s speech on Ethical Campaign Finance in the 21st Century.

214 FemNaziBitch  Sep 26, 2014 1:58:28pm

215 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 1:59:03pm
216 FemNaziBitch  Sep 26, 2014 2:01:25pm

BEWARE!!!!

217 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2014 2:02:59pm

re: #210 klys

From the downstairs discussion, apparently this is somehow distorting the past?

Someone want to clarify for me how this distorts the past? I’m lost.

RWC objects to my using the term ‘cut and ran’. Honestly, though, it’s a far more accurate description of Reagan’s retreat from Beirut than it is of Clinton’s withdrawal from Somalia, 6 months after Blackhawk Down.

I like using it for pretty much that reason.

218 klys  Sep 26, 2014 2:05:42pm

re: #217 GeneJockey

RWC objects to my using the term ‘cut and ran’. Honestly, though, it’s a far more accurate description of Reagan’s retreat from Beirut than it is of Clinton’s withdrawal from Somalia, 6 months after Blackhawk Down.

I like using it for pretty much that reason.

And yet he has crickets when it comes to why the comparison is relevant especially in light of the right wing’s obsession with Benghazi.

219 FemNaziBitch  Sep 26, 2014 2:05:50pm

Waitress Donated Rush Limbaugh’s Generous Tip to Abortion Fund

220 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 26, 2014 2:33:36pm

re: #177 Jenner7

Did she say 1400??

We now have a metric for how much Obama has devalued the Presidency: 12.5%.
///

221 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 2:36:29pm

re: #215 Kragar

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What a toad.

222 urbanmeemaw  Sep 26, 2014 5:38:53pm

re: #68 Kragar

BLINDED BY THE WHITE!
Revved up like Deuce, another runner in the night

Revved up by the Ducks and hopefuls running on the Right

223 urbanmeemaw  Sep 26, 2014 5:39:57pm

re: #72 Lidane

Damn you. Now I’ve got that song in my head.

*sigh*

I never did understand the words to that song and I’ve listened to it for almost 40 years.


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