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I can almost hear the banjo music already, as we kick off Hillbilly Night at the 2014 Values Voter Summit, featuring the Duggars, Duck Dynasty’s Alan Robertson, Mike Huckabee and Erick Son of Erick.

EVENING PLENARY SESSION - Regency Ballroom

Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and The Duggar Family, TLC’s 19 Kids and Counting*

Governor Mike Huckabee, Host, Huckabee*

Alan Robertson of “Duck Dynasty”*

Jason and David Benham, Founders, Benham Companies*

Erick Erickson, Editor-in-Chief, RedState.com*

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445 comments
1 b.d.  Sep 26, 2014 4:44:45pm

Hide the squirrels

2 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 4:44:55pm
3 nines09  Sep 26, 2014 4:50:31pm

I remember when I was a kid the Horror Movies used to come on Saturday night.

4 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 4:50:45pm

JimBob is second best, right after Jesus!

Poor JimBob.

5 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 4:50:57pm
6 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 4:51:50pm

Look at the way she totally fawns on this green shirt-wearing fanatic.

Yikes. These people are awful.

7 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 4:54:16pm
8 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 4:55:00pm

re: #2 jaunte

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It’s a vagina, not a clown car!

/

9 b.d.  Sep 26, 2014 4:55:59pm

I’ve checked to see if my wallet is still there three times already during their spiel.

10 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 4:56:28pm
11 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 4:57:35pm

Here’s the Amendment One they are supporting:

Ballot title

The official ballot text is as follows:[3]
” Shall Article I, of the Constitution of Tennessee be amended by adding the following language as a new, appropriately designated section:

Nothing in this Constitution secures or protects a right to abortion or requires the funding of an abortion. The people retain the right through their elected state representatives and state senators to enact, amend, or repeal statutes regarding abortion, including, but not limited to, circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest or when necessary to save the life of the mother.
□ Yes
□ No[4]

They want to force women to bear their rapist’s children. Even if it will kill them.

12 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 4:57:49pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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The Duggars are the closest thing to what the right wing would call “mainstream Christianity”. Pay close attention, folks - this is what the religious right wants to foist on all Americans.

13 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 4:59:07pm

re: #2 jaunte

re: #9 b.d.

Fundamentalism often is based on glyph-magick - that is, writing as a form of magical incantation.

Along with this comes the idea that letters and numbers themselves contain a form magical powers.

14 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 4:59:08pm

re: #1 b.d.

Hide the squirrels

Here comes Huckabee!

15 klys  Sep 26, 2014 4:59:19pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

It’s a vagina, not a clown car!

/

I feel really torn about commentary like that, because I feel strongly that women should have the right to make decisions about what they want to do with their bodies as best suits them. But at the same time, publicly advocating for their beliefs in an attempt to force all women into that role is the polar opposite of that.

I think that’s probably the biggest issue for me, is that folks who advocate for acceptance and being sex-positive and all that aren’t trying to tell other people that they can’t live their lives the other way if that’s what makes them happy, just to not make up the rules for everyone as they go along?

But yeah. This was a rambling response brought to you by the fact that it is Friday and the thunder has gone away. Sadly.

16 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:01:35pm

re: #15 klys

I guess in the spirit of this and the original remark, I would be completely ok with saying “it’s your right to turn your vagina into a clown car but please respect my desire not to.”

17 b.d.  Sep 26, 2014 5:01:39pm

Arkansas elected Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee, strange state.

18 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:02:19pm

19 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:03:01pm

re: #16 klys

I guess in the spirit of this and the original remark, I would be completely ok with saying “it’s your right to turn your vagina into a clown car but please respect my desire not to.”

But God created you specifically to pop out babies as fast as humanly possible! All you sluts are doing is abusing God’s gift of reproduction for your own cheap pleasure!

20 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:03:28pm
21 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:04:31pm

re: #16 klys

I guess in the spirit of this and the original remark, I would be completely ok with saying “it’s your right to turn your vagina into a clown car but please respect my desire not to.”

Yeah, I got the meaning, and I know that my flippant response can rub some folks the wrong way. But I chalk that down mostly to the idea, as espoused by fundies like the Duggars, that a woman’s only job in life is to be raised and then kept by a man as a broodmare, that a freethinking woman who wants to put things other than child-rearing as their top priority are acting against “God’s plan.”

I fully support their right to choose, but that’s not going to stop me from mocking them for the choice their made.

22 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:04:44pm

BENGHAZI!

23 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:04:59pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

BENGHAZI!

DRINK!

24 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:05:38pm

Huckabee is whipping up an Ishmael vs. Isaac death match.

25 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:05:40pm

healthcare.gov is not a phone number.

26 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:06:11pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

But God created you specifically to pop out babies as fast as humanly possible! All you sluts are doing is abusing God’s gift of reproduction for your own cheap pleasure!

I found out today that one of my good friends from college is expecting (her first) which is very exciting for her and her husband (one year this past August).

I look at my crew of childless friends and wonder how many of us are still going to be that way in a few more years. I’m getting old enough that I expect it to stabilize soonish.

(And no, mom, the fact that the less-than-bright-bulb from church growing up is having her third is not a reason for me to pop out one, thanks.)

27 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:06:19pm

Every life has value. Unless she’s got an ectopic pregnancy.

28 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:06:43pm

re: #24 jaunte

Huckabee is whipping up an Ishmael vs. Isaac death match.

Someone on my FB was going on about a “radical Muslim” who beheaded someone in Oklahoma. Because clearly, being Muslim has everything to do with workplace violence.

29 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:07:09pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

Yeah, I got the meaning, and I know that my flippant response can rub some folks the wrong way. But I chalk that down mostly to the idea, as espoused by fundies like the Duggars, that a woman’s only job in life is to be raised and then kept by a man as a broodmare, that a freethinking woman who wants to put things other than child-rearing as their top priority are acting against “God’s plan.”

I fully support their right to choose, but that’s not going to stop me from mocking them for the choice their made.

No, I know, which is why I was torn about it. I get the spirit in which you make the remark. I was more just using it as a platform to ramble upon, because that’s what caught in my brain this afternoon.

30 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:07:53pm

re: #26 klys

I found out today that one of my good friends from college is expecting (her first) which is very exciting for her and her husband (one year this past August).

I look at my crew of childless friends and wonder how many of us are still going to be that way in a few more years. I’m getting old enough that I expect it to stabilize soonish.

(And no, mom, the fact that the less-than-bright-bulb from church growing up is having her third is not a reason for me to pop out one, thanks.)

I’ve told the Lizardim before, but in the circles I run in, my mother was (and probably still is, by some) looked down upon because she had her tubes tied after having me. It doesn’t seem to matter to any of them that complications from my birth almost killed her; something something something martyrdom something.

31 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:08:18pm
32 prairiefire  Sep 26, 2014 5:08:20pm

Happy Friday, lizards! Yeeee Haww!

33 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:08:41pm

re: #29 klys

No, I know, which is why I was torn about it. I get the spirit in which you make the remark. I was more just using it as a platform to ramble upon, because that’s what caught in my brain this afternoon.

Fair enough. We all have a right to ramble from time to time. As this “Summit” has shown, some of us try to make a career out of it.

34 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:08:58pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

DRINK!

No way! I start now, I’ll be dead due to severe alcohol poisoning before the end of the hour…. /kinda

35 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:09:24pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Well hell, corporations can donate as much as they like and skirt all sorts of taxes, why shouldn’t Holy Mother Church be allowed to run a similar political racket?

36 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:09:28pm

re: #30 thedopefishlives

I’ve told the Lizardim before, but in the circles I run in, my mother was (and probably still is, by some) looked down upon because she had her tubes tied after having me. It doesn’t seem to matter to any of them that complications from my birth almost killed her; something something something martyrdom something.

The number of people who fail to understand that pregnancy is not risk-free is mind-boggling.

37 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:09:56pm
38 bratwurst  Sep 26, 2014 5:10:11pm

Coverage of the Values Voter Summit seems appropriate for me tonight as I celebrate my 5 year lizard birthday! I became a regular visitor here in September 2009 as I read about Charles’ highly critical coverage of Glenn Beck’s original 9/12 event elsewhere. This was quite a shock to me as the last time I had visited LGF, it was…uh…well to the right of me. I was able to register a few weeks later and have been a regular visitor ever since.

My attraction to symmetry appreciates that I have 5555 posts as of tonight, or 1111 every year. Not SO many, but considering how many months I have spent on the road in the last 5 years (including a total of about 2 months abroad), plus moving twice (once across country) plus a rather serious illness just about a year ago, it is a lot…my home on teh internets. Thank you Charles and thank you my fellow lizards!

39 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:10:27pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Fair enough. We all have a right to ramble from time to time. As this “Summit” has shown, some of us try to make a career out of it.

Fuck that, I just want a career of being allowed to cross stitch. But noooooooooooo, job fair on Tuesday and I am focusing on everything but right now because HI STRESS.

40 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:10:47pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

healthcare.gov is not a phone number.

At 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue, it is!

41 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:11:06pm

re: #36 klys

The number of people who fail to understand that pregnancy is not risk-free is mind-boggling.

Age is not a factor, either; my mother was 29. Mrs. Fish was 26 when she had our 2nd fishspawn, and she had some serious complications (thankfully, not life-threatening, but the doctors still almost sent me out of the room).

42 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:12:23pm

re: #41 thedopefishlives

Age is not a factor, either; my mother was 29. Mrs. Fish was 26 when she had our 2nd fishspawn, and she had some serious complications (thankfully, not life-threatening, but the doctors still almost sent me out of the room).

One girlfriend had physical therapy up to 6 months after her first, due to complications.

In other news, what are you all doing tomorrow?

43 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:12:58pm

re: #36 klys

The number of people who fail to understand that pregnancy is not risk-free is mind-boggling.

My own mother had to call it quits after two because of an ectopic pregnancy. She wasn’t in immediate danger, but surgical intervention was nevertheless required.

44 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:13:19pm

Huck The Heretic Hunter.

45 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:13:32pm

re: #42 klys

One girlfriend had physical therapy up to 6 months after her first, due to complications.

In other news, what are you all doing tomorrow?

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I am going to REST. I have had an incredibly stressful 2 weeks, to the point where I’ve developed a tic in my right eye that is driving me crazy. I need to decompress and get my head out of work mode. I am hoping I can get back to my karate classes next week, which will help relieve the stress in a physical way.

46 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:13:59pm

He knows what God wants.

47 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:14:27pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

My own mother had to call it quits after two because of an ectopic pregnancy. She wasn’t in immediate danger, but surgical intervention was nevertheless required.

I am paranoid as shit about those because if the IUD fails, an ectopic is more likely.

Unexplained cramping in the lower belly is why there is a box of pregnancy tests under the bathroom sink.

48 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:14:27pm

Speaking of the Duggars, yesterday I posted about the Us article about Jenna Duggar’s anti-evolution statement. Today she goes all in:

Jessa Duggar Uses the Holocaust to Attack Abortion, Evolution

[…]

Just one day after Jessa Duggar bashed evolution and atheism on Instagram, she returned to the social media site to express an even more controversial view.

Jessa and her fiance Ben Seewald are in DC at the moment [heh, I wonder what convention they are attending?], and according to her IG page they recently paid a visit to the US Holocaust Museum.

[…]

Unfortunately, and all too predictably, the emotions that Jessa experienced at the museum inspired an lengthy, impassioned defense of her various political causes and religious convictions - none of which have anything to do with the millions of lives lost in concentration camps.

Jessa’s latest Insta-rant is too long to reproduce here, but she begins by saying, “I walked through the Holocaust museum today…very sobering.”

[…]

Then she begins to go off the rails, asserting that racism stems “from the evolutionary idea that man evolved from something less than human; that some people groups are ‘less evolved’ and others ‘more evolved.’”

Say what? We’re not sure what evolutionary biologists Jessa’s been chatting with, but the gist of the theory is that we all evolved from different species.

There’s literally not a single reputable scientist on the planet claiming that “some people groups are ‘less evolved.’”

But hey, if your head hasn’t exploded yet, don’t worry - it gets worse.

[…]

Jessa Duggar - a values vote for sure.

49 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:14:34pm

re: #44 jaunte

So, the Bible can tell me whether I should upgrade to Windows 8.1?

50 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 5:14:41pm

re: #44 jaunte

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Huck The Heretic Hunter.

Yeah, unfortunately all those answers are usually found in the Old Testament, with a spotlight on Leviticus. Three guesses as to what it recommends for most sins against God and I’ll give a hint: It’s not forgiveness for the sin.

51 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:14:53pm

re: #44 jaunte

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Huck The Heretic Hunter.

LIES! I looked through it all and STILL can’t find a way to fix iOS 8…

//

52 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:15:01pm

re: #49 wheat-dogghazi

So, the Bible can tell me whether I should upgrade to Windows 8.1?

[Opens Bible to random page.]

“Reply hazy, try again later.”

53 b.d.  Sep 26, 2014 5:16:07pm

God really needs a better PR firm.

54 thedopefishlives  Sep 26, 2014 5:16:34pm

re: #53 b.d.

God really needs a better PR firm.

I’ve been saying this for years. Christians are doing a fantastic job of selling atheism.

55 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:16:36pm

re: #51 Archangelus

56 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:16:47pm

re: #53 b.d.

God really needs a better PR firm.

I hear the one Ferguson hired is now available for a new client.

57 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:17:43pm

re: #53 b.d.

God really needs a better PR firm.

Preferably not the one hired by the Ferguson Police, one would think…

58 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 5:17:52pm

re: #46 jaunte

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He knows what God wants.

Evangelical Christians fail God by giving these con artists any credibility.

59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 5:17:53pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Yeah, unfortunately all those answers are usually found in the Old Testament, with a spotlight on Leviticus. Three guesses as to what it recommends for most sins against God and I’ll give a hint: It’s not forgiveness for the sin.

It’s getting stoned. What’s not to like? /

60 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:18:12pm

Good God I made the mistake of reading some of the reply tweets to the fantastic photo I posted up there by the Department of the Interior.

Just …don’t.

61 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 5:19:41pm

re: #60 klys

Good God I made the mistake of reading some of the reply tweets to the fantastic photo I posted up there by the Department of the Interior.

Just …don’t.

Yeah, too late… sheesh…

62 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:20:15pm

re: #48 freetoken

Poor dear, she doesn’t know that racism predates Charles Darwin by several centuries.

63 Romantic Heretic  Sep 26, 2014 5:20:41pm

re: #36 klys

The number of people who fail to understand that pregnancy is not risk-free is mind-boggling.

Since it’s almost entirely men, with a scattering of women well past their child bearing years, that attitude not the least bit surprising.

64 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:21:57pm

re: #62 wheat-dogghazi

I suspect that all she really knows is that she is supposed to have as many babies as she can before she dies.

65 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:22:49pm

It comes out of the mess of some Forest Service regulations applying media organizations in Forest Service wilderness areas but hey, why let that get in the way of a good outrage.*

* This should not be interpreted as support of this rule, because frankly, it sounds idiotic. HOWEVER. Those tweets were also idiotic.

66 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 26, 2014 5:23:59pm

re: #48 freetoken

racism stems “from the Biblical idea that Ham’s progeny was cursed; that some people groups are cursed and others have a right to persecute them”

67 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:24:31pm

re: #63 Romantic Heretic

Since it’s almost entirely men, with a scattering of women well past their child bearing years, that attitude not the least bit surprising.

I think Mama Duggar has had some troublesome deliveries, enough that her doctors advised her not to have any more kids. She ignored them, because God.

Couldn’t they at least adopt a few kids? It seems like Ma and Pa Duggar have this child-rearing thing down to a science. Or does the Quiverfull cult only recognize biological offspring as worthy?

68 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:26:31pm

re: #67 wheat-dogghazi

Some of their children are adopted, no?

I have no problem with a couple wanting to have a large family.

It’s just silly to propose that everyone has to be like that way to live as, well, God intended.

69 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:27:08pm

re: #68 freetoken

Some of their children are adopted, no?

I have no problem with a couple wanting to have a large family.

It’s just silly to propose that everyone has to be like that way to live as, well, God intended.

I’m pretty sure they’re all biological.

70 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:27:39pm

re: #64 freetoken

I suspect that all she really knows is that she is supposed to have as many babies as she can before she dies.

I’m pretty sure the Duggar spawn are all homeschooled, and Dog forbid, the girls shouldn’t go to college, so you’re probably right.

Judging from some recent photos, I’m not sure she knows proper gun safety, either.

71 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:27:49pm

re: #67 wheat-dogghazi

I wouldn’t wish the fate of being the adopted Duggar on anyone.

72 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:28:46pm

re: #47 klys

I am paranoid as shit about those because if the IUD fails, an ectopic is more likely.

Unexplained cramping in the lower belly is why there is a box of pregnancy tests under the bathroom sink.

Ectopics don’t always show up right away. Or so I heard. Maybe the tests are more sensitive now.

73 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:29:20pm

re: #68 freetoken

Some of their children are adopted, no?

I have no problem with a couple wanting to have a large family.

It’s just silly to propose that everyone has to be like that way to live as, well, God intended.

All 19 (or 20, I’ve lost count) popped out of Mama Duggar. Amazing but true.

Even brood mares get to retire after so many pregnancies.

74 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:30:06pm

re: #71 jaunte

I wouldn’t wish the fate of being the adopted Duggar on anyone.

I wouldn’t wish the fate of growing up in an orphanage on anyone either. For all their distorted worldview, the child would at least have two parents, a family that can put food on the table and loves each other, and at least some education. What they can take from that and do at age 18 is up to them, but it’s a much better start.

75 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:30:09pm

The Duggars have such a large family because they’re in the Quiverfull Christianist cult. The term “Quiverfull” refers to a “quiver full of arrows,” which is how they see their children — as weapons in a spiritual war to take over America.

Seriously. This isn’t just an innocent, slightly unusual family — they’re representing a dangerous theocratic movement of fanatics.

76 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:30:44pm

Has anyone at VVS14 warned the audience about Muslims raising cat armies?

77 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 5:30:46pm

re: #36 klys

The number of people who fail to understand that pregnancy is not risk-free is mind-boggling.

The RWNJs are fond of the big lie of framing abortion as the life of the fetus vs. the convenience of the mother.

They can all fuck off and die in view of the fact that nothing with the death and injury rate of pregnancy can reasonably be viewed as a mere “inconvenience” if compelled by the state.

78 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:31:10pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

Ectopics don’t always show up right away. Or so I heard. Maybe the tests are more sensitive now.

It’s the first level of security blanket. Typically the cramps have not been related anyway, and after too much of them I’d be going to the doctor regardless.

But I feel better psychologically after seeing a no, and my husband is even worse about it.

79 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:32:09pm

I see that historical revisionism is now up to bat at the VVS.

The Duck dynasty is full of quacks.

80 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:32:19pm

re: #71 jaunte

I wouldn’t wish the fate of being the adopted Duggar on anyone.

I worry about their biological offspring. You know even the squeakiest clean of families ends up having kids who fall short of their parents’ unrealistic expectations. Some of those younger Duggars are bound to go off the rails at some point.

Jessa’s pregnancy and marriage seem closely timed, if you know what I mean.

82 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:32:52pm

re: #74 klys

I wouldn’t wish the fate of growing up in an orphanage on anyone either. For all their distorted worldview, the child would at least have two parents, a family that can put food on the table and loves each other, and at least some education. What they can take from that and do at age 18 is up to them, but it’s a much better start.

You’re right in general, but in the case of the Duggars, I think the emotional damage to an adopted child of being the odd man out in that family would be severe.

83 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:33:40pm

Trying to argue that Duck mullah is a new John the Baptist… yeah, this is some whacked out religious cult.

84 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:34:22pm

re: #78 klys

It’s the first level of security blanket. Typically the cramps have not been related anyway, and after too much of them I’d be going to the doctor regardless.

But I feel better psychologically after seeing a no, and my husband is even worse about it.

And yet, if you turn up pregnant, some people want to force you to think about it for a few days more before deciding what to do about it. As though you gave no thought to having the IUD installed. Or what could happen if it fails.

85 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:34:36pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

It’s all about out-reproducing non-whites, which makes Jessa’s remarks about racism and evolution all the more distressing.

86 prairiefire  Sep 26, 2014 5:35:07pm

re: #82 jaunte

Now, the foster kids Michelle Bachman bad mouthed, them I feel sorry for.

87 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 5:35:33pm

I’ll have to pay attention to LGF this weekend. If we have a “these kooks don’t represent the GOP” moment, I don’t want to miss it.

88 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:35:52pm

Faith, Family, Ducks. That’s what it says on the Duck Dynasty brand merchandise at Walmart.

89 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:36:40pm

Selling their own Duck version of The Bible.

Knowing how to squeeze every $ out of the gullible.

90 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 5:36:45pm

All I can say, the good folks over at rightwingwatch.org must be on overtime and danger pay to keep up with all that is coming out of the great Derp-a-Rama.

RBS

91 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:36:45pm

“Faith, Family, and Slaughtering Ducks with Big Guns.”

92 stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2014 5:36:56pm

I know it’s kind of dumb to comment about ignoring something, but I cannot bring myself to watch any of this Vagary Voters Summit. I was almost tempted to watch Bachmann say how much she wants to kill kill kill (although I’d rather watch Arlo Guthrie do it). It’s just too painful to be funny any more.

Youtube Video

93 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 5:37:09pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

The Duggars have such a large family because they’re in the Quiverfull Christianist cult. The term “Quiverfull” refers to a “quiver full of arrows,” which is how they see their children — as weapons in a spiritual war to take over America.

Seriously. This isn’t just an innocent, slightly unusual family — they’re representing a dangerous theocratic movement of fanatics.

Escape from Duggarville: How playing the good Christian housewife almost killed me

Vyckie Garrison was once a minor celebrity in the Quiverfull Movement, made famous by TV’s Duggar family. As a devout, Bible-believing Christian and the mother of seven homeschooled children, Garrison spent 16 years, with her husband, publishing a newspaper for families on a similar path. Today, via a website called No Longer Quivering, she publishes resources for women leaving the movement. Recently she addressed American Atheists about her experience. This article is an abridged version of her remarks.

94 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:37:12pm

re: #82 jaunte

You’re right in general, but in the case of the Duggars, I think the emotional damage to an adopted child of being the odd man out in that family would be severe.

Agreed. It’s clear that the Duggars and the Quiverfull people don’t care one whit about adoption, and though they never state it outright, adopting outside one’s ethnic background. For that matter, it seems the Quiverfull cult is all white people. I’ve never heard of African-American or Hispanic Quivers.

95 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:37:16pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

And yet, if you turn up pregnant, some people want to force you to think about it for a few days more before deciding what to do about it. As though you gave no thought to having the IUD installed. Or what could happen if it fails.

I gave a lot of thought to it this last time because it fucking hurts like hell to get that thing in there.

I have very little tolerance for the forced pregnancy side, and am happy to support organizations like Planned Parenthood, even as I hope to never have to make a decision like that myself - which is why I use birth control in the first place (and a method incredibly unlikely to fail because of user error).

96 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 5:37:40pm

Your redneck soundtrack for the evening:

Youtube Video

97 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:38:05pm

Marked down!

98 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:39:02pm

re: #97 jaunte

Soon to be at a Goodwill near you by year’s end.

99 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 5:39:22pm

The Duggars are really nothing more than sexual deviants practicing theocratically inspired abusive Domination and submission

100 Bubblehead II  Sep 26, 2014 5:39:52pm

I lasted about 1 min into the video. The I aborted it.

101 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:40:03pm

Drudge Report is now linking to Chuck C. Johnson’s fucked up post about the workplace murder in Oklahoma.

102 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:40:28pm

re: #99 Kragar

They’re following a very long tradition among the hyper-religious. Very large families, including men having multiple lives, has a very long history.

103 prairiefire  Sep 26, 2014 5:40:29pm

re: #97 jaunte

Ha, “nasty family” because of screen shot. Bwhaaa haa ha.

104 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 5:41:14pm

re: #103 prairiefire

Sorry I can’t take credit!

105 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 26, 2014 5:41:44pm

I also have to say that the very title of their summit is incredibly insulting. The very name implies that if you don’t believe the way they do, you have no values. /rant

RBS

106 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:41:58pm
107 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 5:42:21pm

Ready to have some Duggar sexytime tips shoved down your throat? Of course you are…

“In your marriage there will be times you’re going to be very exhausted,” Michelle told “Today.” “Your hubby comes home after a hard day’s work, you get the baby to bed, and he is going to be looking forward to that time with you. … Anyone can fix him lunch, but only one person can meet that physical need of love that he has, and you always need to be available when he calls.”

And if you aren’t, YOU’RE GOING TO HELL, YOU ACCURSED JEZEBEL!

108 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:42:47pm

Diversity to this duck dude means a yellow lab, a chocolate lab, and the black lab he showed with the caption ‘meth lab’.

109 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:42:50pm

re: #102 freetoken

They’re following a very long tradition among the hyper-religious. Very large families, including men having multiple lives, has a very long history.

I think this is a typo but it works so well.

110 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:43:11pm

re: #102 freetoken

They’re following a very long tradition among the hyper-religious. Very large families, including men having multiple lives, has a very long history.

Bigamists often do.

“Wives” works, too.

111 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 5:43:11pm

re: #102 freetoken

They’re following a very long tradition among the hyper-religious. Very large families, including men having multiple lives, has a very long history.

There is a difference between large families and the sick shit they’re indoctrinating their kids into

112 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:43:27pm

re: #109 klys

I think this is a typo but it works so well.

Well, I meant “wives” but yes, either one works.

113 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:44:17pm

The feed keeps quitting since he started praying.

114 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 5:44:38pm

re: #99 Kragar

The Duggars are really nothing more than sexual deviants practicing theocratically inspired abusive Domination and submission

Seriously. Even the Puritans weren’t as fucked up about sex as the Duggars and those Quiverfull freaks.

115 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:44:45pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Diversity to this duck dude means a yellow lab, a chocolate lab, and the black lab he showed with the caption ‘meth lab’.

I’m sure that was just an inadvertent coincidence.

[cough]

116 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:45:36pm

re: #114 Lidane

Seriously. Even the Puritans weren’t as fucked up about sex as the Duggars and those Quiverfull freaks.

Well, back in those days, Mama Duggar would already be dead, and Papa Duggar would be on his second or third wife.

117 klys  Sep 26, 2014 5:48:39pm

I’m in a group on Facebook for discussion about the geysers in Yellowstone and last night there was apparently a bit of drama where someone was chewing out other members for not recording the smaller, more common geysers like they care about the rare ones (Opal Pool erupted this week). The end result after some abusive conversation apparently was he was kicked out and one of the moderators felt the need to post about it.

The post, which set my hackles up a bit, talks about how we should all be able to appreciate the thermal features and “God’s creation” in any way we want to. Which, ok, the sentiment is fine, but seriously. Why does any mention of God need to be there?

Anyway that is my head-desk moment of the week in places where I didn’t think religion needed to be inserted at all.

118 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:48:40pm

re: #116 wheat-dogghazi

Well, back in those days, Mama Duggar would already be dead, and Papa Duggar would be on his second or third wife.

See. God invented modern medicine so a woman can have more children before dying.

119 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 5:49:05pm

Off topic, some some may be interested in this free class:

Global Warming: The Science and Modeling of Climate Change

120 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:49:22pm
121 goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2014 5:50:07pm

...

122 Lidane  Sep 26, 2014 5:50:09pm

re: #116 wheat-dogghazi

Well, back in those days, Mama Duggar would already be dead, and Papa Duggar would be on his second or third wife.

True. But the Duggar kids apparently can’t even kiss or hold hands before marrying. All their “dates” are heavily chaperoned. It’s creepy.

I mean, even the Puritans had bundling, FFS.

123 goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2014 5:51:15pm

Multiple lives simulator.

124 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:53:17pm

re: #122 Lidane

True. But the Duggar kids apparently can’t even kiss or hold hands before marrying. All their “dates” are heavily chaperoned. It’s creepy.

I mean, even the Puritans had bundling, FFS.

People born after the Puritan era were more puritanical than the Puritans.

125 wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2014 5:53:34pm

Later, lizards.

126 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 5:57:30pm

re: #118 freetoken

See. God invented modern medicine so a woman can have more children before dying.

And education, so that she would learn she doesn’t have to.

There is an inverse relationship between births per capita and educational level. The Duggars are outliers.

127 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 5:57:37pm

I admit, I’ve never heard of the Benham brothers before. But these two guys are just repellent.

128 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:00:34pm

The Benham bigots.

“…Now, we don’t know exactly what motivated HGTV’s decision, but it seems to be a pretty good bet that it had nothing to do with the fact that the Benhams are outspoken about their Christian faith, and more to do with the fact that they had been outspoken advocates of limiting other people’s rights - as when Jason urged Charlotte, North Carolina, officials to deny permits for LGBT pride events, or when David took part it protests against the Islamic community center that critics inaccurately dubbed the “Ground Zero Mosque.” rightwingwatch.org

129 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:00:46pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

I admit, I’ve never heard of the Benham brothers before. But these two guys are just repellent.

They had a show on HGTV until they made some anti-gay remarks.

Former baseball players, they became “serial entrepreneurs” and now peddle their success stories to the unwitting masses.
benhamcompanies.com

Part of the house-flipping crowd.

130 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 6:02:17pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

I admit, I’ve never heard of the Benham brothers before. But these two guys are just repellent.

David Benham Explain His Love For Gays … On Bryan Fischer’s Notorious Hate Radio Show

Along with his brother Jason, Benham spoke to Fischer about his “love” for gay people. Benham has previously expressed this “love” by labeling homosexuality “destructive,” “demonic” and akin to Nazism. The interview should come as no surprise, as Benham and Fischer both claim that demonic forces are behind homosexuality, which they both insist is a statement of love.

131 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:02:27pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

They’re very typical fundamentalists. You can find them in your local religious assembly.

132 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 6:05:40pm

Watching Rachel…

133 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:06:59pm

Sousa game show music to introduce Erick the son.

134 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:08:29pm

See, the Jesus As Myth story really gets them.

135 klys  Sep 26, 2014 6:08:31pm

The expected downding comes in right on time.

136 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:09:53pm

Historical revisionism is the heart of Value Voters.

137 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:10:10pm

This particular video feed is blocked in China, so I appreciate reading this thread to see what I have been spared from watching.

138 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:10:33pm

Erick says “choose a side.”

139 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:11:11pm

re: #138 jaunte

Erick says “choose a side.”

I’ll have fries and cole slaw, thanks.

140 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:12:10pm

This is a very standard apologetic approach by Eric son of Erick. He’s copying basic formulas for preaching to the converted.

But they’ll all make it as some great intellect and insight.

141 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:12:20pm

re: #122 Lidane

True. But the Duggar kids apparently can’t even kiss or hold hands before marrying. All their “dates” are heavily chaperoned. It’s creepy.

I mean, even the Puritans had bundling, FFS.

The Puritans were no where near as bad about sex as people think. Most marrages didn’t happen until the woman was pregnant so that everyone could be more certain of their compatibility as a couple.

They get a bum rap on many things, though they earned it on others.

142 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:12:56pm

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi

YOU CANNOT CHOOSE TWO SIDES!!!
YOU MUST CHOOSE POTATO,
OR YOU MUST CHOOSE CABBAGE.

143 Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2014 6:13:00pm

re: #135 klys

The expected downding comes in right on time.

Where?

144 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:13:26pm

re: #132 Jenner7

This particular GOP dipshit is on the House Armed Service Committee.

Let that sink in for a moment. An elected official on the relevant House committee is advocating that high-ranking US military officers resign any time they disagree with their commander in chief, supposedly in direct conversations with said officers.

Unless this clown at least loses his committee appointment as a result of this, I think it fair to charge the GOP as a whole with inciting subversion in the military for no better reason than their angst with a ****** in the white house.

145 Dark_Falcon  Sep 26, 2014 6:13:37pm

re: #132 Jenner7

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Watching Rachel…

I linked to that post last night. Not going after you, but I was ahead of the curve on this one. My post also has a link to the Dem who’s facing this dimbulb. Feel free to donate, since Doug Lamborn is to me what Michele Bachmann was in 2010 and what Joe Walsh was in 2012: My “Boot One Nutbar Race”.

Doug Lamborn is the one Republican whose defeat I advocate this year as a matter of political hygiene. As I said last night:

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

If you call the Obama Administration “the Muslim Brotherhood”, you suffer from either malice and/or moral confusion of such superlative scope as to render you unfit for public office.

146 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:13:52pm

re: #142 jaunte

YOU CANNOT CHOOSE TWO SIDES!!!
YOU MUST CHOOSE POTATO,
OR YOU MUST CHOOSE CABBAGE.

What kinda cheap joint is this? I can get two sides at Cracker Barrel. I’m leaving!

147 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:13:54pm

re: #132 Jenner7

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Watching Rachel…

I’m curious - did this little Republican freak serve or is he just another F***ing chicken hawk?

148 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 6:14:03pm

Gonna follow along on your comments re: Erick son of Erick’s hate speech.

I know it’s going to be horrible, so in between is a funny. This applied to last week here in So Cal, but I saw it today an lol’d.

heh

149 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 6:14:03pm
150 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 6:14:21pm

re: #138 jaunte

Erick says “choose a side.”

I have.

151 Dark_Falcon  Sep 26, 2014 6:14:52pm

re: #135 klys

The expected downding comes in right on time.

It’s gone. I clicked the downding button by mistake and undid it before I read your post.

152 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:15:02pm

re: #150 Kragar

So it’s potato, then.

153 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:15:39pm

This is an exercise by Eric son of Erick to convince his listeners to not think.

All these sermon points by Eric have been picked apart to no end.

But the last thing Eric wants is for people to really research this stuff.

There is no historical evidence, none, for all the Peter, Jude, James stuff.

Some of it is not even in the NT.

154 klys  Sep 26, 2014 6:15:41pm

re: #143 Interesting Times

Where?

Apparently Dark thought better of it.

Or realized it’s awfully hard to defend this shit.

155 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:16:05pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

I linked to that post last night. Not going after you, but I was ahead of the curve on this one. My post also has a link to the Dem who’s facing this dimbulb. Feel free to donate, since Doug Lamborn is to me what Michele Bachmann was in 2010 and what Joe Walsh was in 2012: My “Boot One Nutbar Race”.

Doug Lamborn is the one Republican whose defeat I advocate this year as a matter of political hygiene….

That CD includes Colorado Springs and went 59% for Romney in 2012. We’re all stuck with this loon unless he finds a way to lose a GOP primary.

156 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 6:16:12pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

I sometimes don’t read every comment, so forgive me for missing it.

157 klys  Sep 26, 2014 6:16:52pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

It’s gone. I clicked the downding button by mistake and undid it before I read your post.

Forgive my skepticism, as you have downdinged a number of posts critical of Republicans simply because of that fact.

158 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:17:00pm

Joseph Smith’s friends believed him too, unto all sorts of persecution.

Does that mean Mormonism is true?

159 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:17:15pm

re: #153 freetoken

This is an exercise by Eric son of Erick to convince his listeners to not think.

All these sermon points by Eric have been picked apart to no end.

But the last thing Eric wants is for people to really research this stuff.

There is no historical evidence, none, for all the Peter, Jude, James stuff.

Some of it is not even in the NT.

Is Erick pretending to be a Biblical scholar? Color me surprised.

160 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:17:48pm

MISSING LINK!!

161 Lancelot Link  Sep 26, 2014 6:17:49pm

re: #146 wheat-dogghazi

YOU CANNOT CHOOSE TWO SIDES!!!
YOU MUST CHOOSE POTATO,
OR YOU MUST CHOOSE CABBAGE.

What kinda cheap joint is this? I can get two sides at Cracker Barrel. I’m leaving!

Sorry, that’s what you get with the Value Meal.

162 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:18:02pm
163 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 6:19:18pm

re: #162 jaunte

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No Erick, most of you don’t even rate that high.

164 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:19:30pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m curious - did this little Republican freak serve or is he just another F***ing chicken hawk?

Checked wiki, just another Chicken Hawk with too many other things to do so other people’s kids will have to go off and die instead.

165 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:19:32pm

Erick Erickson believes the resurrection is real, but it hasn’t really affected his behavior.

166 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:20:52pm

Erickson is just another fascist theocrat who is highly motivated to force you onto what he thinks is the right path.

167 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 6:21:07pm

re: #162 jaunte

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168 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:21:07pm

re: #162 jaunte

Dear Mr. Erickson:

There is a difference between believing that people are primordial ooze and that all you have between your ears is primordial ooze.

Please FOAD,

Me.

169 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 6:21:52pm
170 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:22:02pm

re: #165 jaunte

Erick Erickson believes the resurrection is real, but it hasn’t really affected his behavior.

Erick is the kind of Christian that makes Atheism an appropriate response; said as a disgusted Christian.

171 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:22:04pm

re: #161 Lancelot Link

Sorry, that’s what you get with the Value Meal.

Fuck that! I suppose I have to pay extra for ketchup, too.

172 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 6:22:42pm

re: #166 jaunte

Erickson is just another fascist theocrat who is highly motivated to force you onto what he thinks is the right path.

I’ve said before that Erick missed his calling as a preacher at a mega-church.

173 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:22:47pm

re: #162 jaunte

Erickson is also one of those RWNJ idolators that has created a god in his own miserable image which he wants to inflict on everyone else.

Edited to add: After all, EE is the warm representative of Christian Charity who has expressed satisfaction at the thought of eternal torment for the damned in Hell.

174 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 6:23:33pm
175 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:23:34pm

re: #173 EPR-radar

He doesn’t like people.

176 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:25:32pm

“…get into office and shape the culture as best we can…”

177 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:25:48pm

re: #175 jaunte

He doesn’t like people.

E. Erickson likes himself just fine, and possibly a few other individuals, but everyone else is garbage to him.

178 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:26:21pm

“Value Voters” == those whose worldview is so thoroughly out of date and discredited that all that is left is reactionary religion.

179 klys  Sep 26, 2014 6:26:24pm

re: #176 jaunte

“…get into office and shape the culture as best we can…”

I’m sure they intend to do that as Democrats.

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180 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 6:26:34pm

re: #176 jaunte

“…get into office and shape the culture as best we can…”

Translation: Institute Christian theocracy.

181 Dark_Falcon  Sep 26, 2014 6:26:44pm

re: #164 William Barnett-Lewis

Checked wiki, just another Chicken Hawk with too many other things to do so other people’s kids will have to go off and die instead.

He’s not even a real hawk like Lindsey Graham. Like him or not, Graham can articulate reasons why a ISIS should be engaged and destroyed and can explain a course of action in a way that a sane person can follow (said sane person might not agree, but they’ll understand). For Doug Lamborn, a hawkish pose is just that: A pose. If PResident Obama agreed with his DERPs publicly, he’d promptly ‘blacktrack’* and crap out a new set of DERPs. It’s all just an excuse to hate on Barack Obama.

*: ‘Blacktrack’ is a term originated by Bill Maher.

BBL

182 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:26:47pm

Coming up - American Exceptionalism and Manifest Destiny?

183 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:28:18pm

Isn’t this the guy who was so toxic the GOP didn’t even really want him running for Lt. Gov?

184 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:29:10pm

Christo-fascism at its best.

185 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 6:29:39pm

re: #178 freetoken

“Value Voters” == those whose worldview is so thoroughly out of date and discredited that all that is left is reactionary religion.

I tweeted this. With proper attribution of course, I’m not a total asshole!

186 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:31:04pm

re: #183 freetoken

The 2013 Republican nominee for lieutenant governor of Virginia, E.W. Jackson is a longtime activist who has likened the Democratic Party to the Antichrist, said Planned Parenthood is worse than the Ku Klux Klan, suggested that President Obama is a Muslim and demonic, and fought against efforts to desegregate public housing.
……………….
—- Argued that gay marriage will release a “torrent of wickedness” that will result in man-animal marriages.
—- Said homosexuality is connected to pedophilia and that homosexuality also “poisons culture, it destroys families, it destroys societies; it brings the judgment of God unlike very few things we can think of.”

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

187 Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2014 6:31:41pm

I am “exceptionally” done with that asshole….

188 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:31:50pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Senator Graham served in the Air Farce as well (still a full bird in the reserves IIRC) so the comparison is moot.

189 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:31:52pm
190 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 6:33:42pm
191 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:34:11pm

These are people who want to seriously argue that politics is about demons and Satan.

Think about that.

192 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 6:36:07pm

re: #191 freetoken

These are people who want to seriously argue that politics is about demons and Satan.

Think about that.

You keep coming up with tweet-able quotes!

193 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 6:36:09pm

This person is going to cause a lot of pain in Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia.

Delaware professor’s editorial in Liberian paper: Ebola is a US plot

194 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:37:01pm

re: #189 jaunte

That’s such nice starting point:

Conservatives are fierce defenders of your right to submit to the plutocrat overlords in all things.

Conservatives are fierce defenders of your right to get shot.

Conservatives are fierce defenders of your right to get killed in a pointless war.

195 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:37:14pm

re: #193 The War TARDIS

Your link goes to a story about bras in Spain.

196 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 6:38:16pm
197 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:38:37pm
198 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:39:45pm

re: #193 The War TARDIS

This person is going to cause a lot of pain in Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia.

Delaware professor’s editorial in Liberian paper: Ebola is a US plot

Some health workers have already been killed by terrified mobs, and there is already a conspiracy theory in southern Africa that AIDS came from the USA or Europe.

He’s making a dangerous situation even more perilous.

199 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:39:47pm

If only the Values Voters spoke about bras in Spain - they’d be more interesting.

200 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:40:15pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

For the record, it is noted that VVS attendees include Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal.

In other words, the GOP owns this shit-show, lock, stock and barrel.

201 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:40:41pm
“Any time you say, ‘There is no other means of salvation but through Jesus Christ, and if you don’t know him and you don’t follow him and you don’t go through him, you are engaged in some sort of false religion,’ that’s controversial. But it’s the truth. Jesus said, ‘I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes unto the Father but by me.’”
- E.W. Jackson
202 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 6:40:49pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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It seems they’ve become more unhinged with every electoral failure. Lord only knows what they’re gonna be like if they lose in 2016.

203 The War TARDIS  Sep 26, 2014 6:41:14pm

re: #195 freetoken

Da fuq?

rawstory.com

AND STAY THERE!!

204 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 6:41:33pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

Yup, the folks they have there now are just total nutjobs, plain and simple.
This is the kind of stuff that should be making the Democrat’s job just so utterly easy…

205 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:42:09pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

It seems they’ve become more unhinged with every electoral failure. Lord only knows what they’re gonna be like if they lose in 2016.

If/when these jokers lose decisively enough, I expect a significant fraction of them to become violent.

206 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:43:09pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

It seems they’ve become more unhinged with every electoral failure. Lord only knows what they’re gonna be like if they lose in 2016.

Which has reminded me to check on absentee voting.

207 dog philosopher  Sep 26, 2014 6:44:26pm

No man comes unto the Father but by me

my apologies to christians, but i dont believe jesus ever said this as it sounds more appropriate to a mob boss

208 freetoken  Sep 26, 2014 6:45:10pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

If/when these jokers lose decisively enough, I expect a significant fraction of them to become violent.

American religiosity never has gone away but other things do change in American politics and social life.

These people are desperate to not slip away into irrelevance, even though their beliefs are now no longer supportable in the intellectual sphere

That makes them prime targets for the nationalists and revanchists.

209 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:46:22pm

re: #207 dog philosopher

No man comes unto the Father but by me

my apologies to christians, but i dont believe jesus ever said this as it sounds more appropriate to a mob boss

One must note the convenience of attributing that sentiment to Jesus when constructing the Bible and founding and reinforcing a church.

210 dog philosopher  Sep 26, 2014 6:46:44pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

It seems they’ve become more unhinged with every electoral failure. Lord only knows what they’re gonna be like if they lose in 2016.

hopefully there will come a republican presidential nominating convention where the teaparty will state a walkout and then nominate their own palin presidential nominee

then, with the republican party fatally broken, maybe we can get some real progressive policies

211 Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2014 6:47:46pm

I, for one, can’t wait for CSI: Cyber, because we all know how well versed in computer matters the writers on the CSI series have shown themselves to be.

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(Really, do I need to sarc tag this?)

In other news, Hawaii 5-0 is quite possibly even stupider (if that’s a word, I think I lost a few IQ points watching just a minute of the show).

212 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:48:31pm

re: #207 dog philosopher

No man comes unto the Father but by me

my apologies to christians, but i dont believe jesus ever said this as it sounds more appropriate to a mob boss

I know have this mental image of Jesus dressed as Don Corleone, mumbling the Beatitudes.

213 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 6:48:58pm

re: #197 jaunte

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It’s bigotry for you to point out the things I say!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously this guy is an even bigger whacko than Alan Keyes and scary to say got a higher percentage of the vote than Keyes ever has. I mean I know Va is more conservative than Maryland and Illinois but I digress.

214 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:50:06pm

re: #211 Timothy Watson

I, for one, can’t wait for CSI: Cyber, because we all know how well versed in computer matters the writers on the CSI series have shown themselves to be.

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(Really, do I need to sarc tag this?)

In other news, Hawaii 5-0 is quite possibly even stupider (if that’s a word, I think I lost a few IQ points watching just a minute of the show).

CSI has run its course, in general. It’s time to stick a fork in it. And while I have loved watching NCIS and Law & Order for these many years, they too need to seek retirement.

215 EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2014 6:50:50pm

re: #211 Timothy Watson

Stupider is definitely a word. I’m still waiting for “enstupidate” and its variants to make it into dictionaries.

After all we don’t have a single word for the fostering of large scale willful ignorance, and US politics is crying out for this to be properly captured in the language.

216 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 6:51:24pm
217 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 6:51:49pm

re: #207 dog philosopher

No man comes unto the Father but by me

my apologies to christians, but i dont believe jesus ever said this as it sounds more appropriate to a mob boss

By the time the Gospel of John was written down there was a very large rift between the the various varieties of Christian and their Jewish origins. John has the most deified version and most exclusive version of Christ. It is possible to twist many of these teachings around to make them much less exclusivist - for one example, that anyone who has a faithful knowledge of God in any form would thus know know the son by extension whether or not they have been exposed to the teachings of Christians. If son knows the father, then the father knows the son. It’s all rather silly on both sides and depends far too much on dualism and Greek philosophy that a 1st century Jewish rabbi wouldn’t be concerned with.

218 HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2014 6:52:11pm

Value Voters are just the descendants of the Know Nothings in the 21st century. That’s all these people are.

219 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2014 6:54:10pm

I still can’t get over 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue. That made my whole weekend.

220 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 6:55:38pm

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

I still can’t get over 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue. That made my whole weekend.

Ditto.

221 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 6:56:27pm

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

I still can’t get over 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue. That made my whole weekend.

SNL needs to do a bit on that one.

222 Archangelus  Sep 26, 2014 7:00:00pm

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi

SNL needs to do a bit on that one.

Oh they will, you can bet on it.

223 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 7:04:58pm

Damage control with bonus fucked up grammar.

224 darthstar  Sep 26, 2014 7:08:42pm
225 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 7:09:14pm
226 jaunte  Sep 26, 2014 7:10:11pm

re: #225 Kragar

But Erickson said they had an eternity to get things done.

227 bratwurst  Sep 26, 2014 7:10:36pm

A great legal scholar has spoken!

228 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 7:13:58pm

re: #227 bratwurst

oh a throwback to Hammurabi’s code?

229 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 7:16:40pm

re: #227 bratwurst

A great legal scholar has spoken!

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230 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 7:17:25pm

re: #228 PhillyPretzel

oh a throwback to Hammurabi’s code?

Hey now, The Donald doesn’t know what the code of Hammurabi is! Be nice!

231 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 7:19:02pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

If Mr Trump has no idea who Hammurabi was I suggest he go back to school and try to learn something.

232 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 26, 2014 7:22:40pm

re: #229 Kragar

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Now don’t mention nails. It’ll just give him ideas.

233 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 7:24:46pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea

Damage control with bonus fucked up grammar.

For the benefit of the un-Twittered, can you post her tweet(s)?

234 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 7:25:56pm

America is going to lose their shit from the murder in OK.

l o s e t h e i r s h i t.

235 Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2014 7:29:36pm

re: #234 Stanley Sea

America is going to lose their shit from the murder in OK.

l o s e t h e i r s h i t.

“IT WAS TERRORISM!!!!”

236 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 7:29:48pm

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi

For the benefit of the un-Twittered, can you post her tweet(s)?

That was it, but she posted this photo somewhere after.

This gaffe really got to her. Defense extraordinaire. Maybe she thought she was back to relevance. All to be lost in an instance.

Photo from theimmoralminority.blogspot.com

Get me to 1400 RIGHT NOW.

237 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 7:33:46pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

That was it, but she posted this photo somewhere after.

This gaffe really got to her. Defense extraordinaire. Maybe she thought she was back to relevance. All to be lost in an instance.

Photo from theimmoralminority.blogspot.com

Get me to 1400 RIGHT NOW.

238 dog philosopher  Sep 26, 2014 7:47:13pm

re: #228 PhillyPretzel

oh a throwback to Hammurabi’s code?

i wonder what programming language hammurabi coded in?

239 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 7:47:32pm
240 klys  Sep 26, 2014 7:48:06pm

re: #238 dog philosopher

i wonder what programming language hammurabi coded in?

C(uneiform)

241 calochortus  Sep 26, 2014 7:51:14pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

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Watching now. Pretty good.

242 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 7:51:22pm

re: #240 klys

C(uneiform)

Here I thought it would be BCPL (before christ post lux)…

243 dog philosopher  Sep 26, 2014 7:54:00pm

Voice of America

Rouhani: Nuclear Talks ‘Extremely Slow’

leave out some vowels

244 PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2014 7:54:36pm

For those who are interested a definition of Hammurabi: thefreedictionary.com

245 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:10:45pm

Ferguson is about MIKE BROWN

246 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:22:45pm

Ferguson=Debtor’s prison scheme.

247 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:24:30pm

allo?

248 klys  Sep 26, 2014 8:25:17pm

I’m waiting for the husband to leave the office to actually start cooking dinner.

I’m not holding my breath.

249 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 8:27:28pm

Taboos being broken. Sexual barriers being knocked over. Male photographers saying to themselves “My Lucky Day!”

250 klys  Sep 26, 2014 8:27:33pm

Dinner tonight is supposed to be macaroni and cheese with broccoli, sauteed mushrooms, and Aidell’s sausage, using a variation on this cheese sauce.

My motivation towards cooking continues on a downward death spiral. The only thing saving it is I really want that cheese sauce.

251 bratwurst  Sep 26, 2014 8:29:14pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

allo?

I am sitting here stunned that for the first time in 29 years, the KC Royals are headed to the post season. I grew up there and was still in high school when they won the 1985 World Series. They are almost certainly going to have to survive the winner-take-all Wild Card, but this is a big deal for those of us who lived through a LOT of horrible baseball for 3 decades. This was the longest post season drought in North American sports.

252 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:29:41pm
253 retired cynic  Sep 26, 2014 8:33:15pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

I really enjoyed that.

254 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:35:16pm

re: #253 retired cynic

I really enjoyed that.

A lot of diverse voices. The dude talking about reverse racism though, he’s from American Spectator. Poison in the well.

255 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 8:38:19pm
256 bratwurst  Sep 26, 2014 8:40:37pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

Hey, at least his profile assures us he is pro-Israel!

257 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 8:41:45pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

The serial LGF stalkers shine here! Look at that compassion, that empathy, the love for life!

I’ve concluded that serial LGF stalkers are some of the most pathetic first-world inhabitants of all time. They spend their days trying to trash this site and what do they have to show for it? Pure ugliness, hatred, contempt, and all of the nasty things that make humans nasty.

What a pathetic bunch of losers.

258 Kragar  Sep 26, 2014 8:43:13pm
259 sagehen  Sep 26, 2014 8:44:04pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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I wonder if he’ll still feel that way when this new liberal Pope orders his cardinals and bishops to push economic justice, and welcome the aliens in your midst.

260 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 8:51:41pm

News item: Mitt Romney considering running again in 2016

261 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 8:52:26pm

re: #256 bratwurst

Hey, at least his profile assures us he is pro-Israel!

RWNJ’s love the current RWNJ Israeli government.

262 Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2014 9:02:26pm

Novel time. Nighty.

263 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:03:38pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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When one’s ideology is based upon the “We’ll take the ni**ers and the chi*ks but not the Irish” scene in Blazing Saddles, perhaps it’s time to rethink one’s ideology.

264 Floral Giraffe  Sep 26, 2014 9:03:45pm

Hope it’s a naughty one!

265 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 9:03:58pm
266 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 9:07:14pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Shorter Twitter letter:

“Hey, you were a shithead! We suspended your account. Open up another account and try not to be such a shithead.”

Yeah, that’ll work.

*spit*

267 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 9:09:50pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

Shorter Twitter letter:

“Hey, you were a shithead! We suspended your account. Open up another account and try not to be such a shithead.”

Yeah, that’ll work.

*spit*

Even worse: here’s how you can continue stalking this person without violating our rules.

268 Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2014 9:11:55pm
269 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:19:37pm

Stalking or stockings? ////

270 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 9:20:44pm

re: #267 Charles Johnson

Even worse: here’s how you can continue stalking this person without violating our rules.

I gotta hand it to you, Kragar, Gus and others for engaging the hateful fuckers that inhabit Twitter. I swear, I’ll look at some response from Kragar, click on the user, and see the most backward-ass shit you could imagine (mostly religious fundamentalism). Personal threats often accompany the repeated replies from our brave LGF twitterers.

I’m trying to find middle ground on Twitter between Kragar and klys. klys’s Twitter is 97% absent of all politics, Kragar is always smacking down fallacy and bad information. If you scroll thorough my TL, you’ll see I’m much closer to klys.

What will it be? Live Free or DIE -or- Famous Potatoes ??

Youtube Video

271 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:23:52pm

For what it’s worth…

272 klys  Sep 26, 2014 9:24:38pm

re: #270 teleskiguy

I don’t post enough cat photos. I should do more of that.

273 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:27:48pm

re: #272 klys

Subtle cat / radar kitteh

274 klys  Sep 26, 2014 9:30:23pm

re: #273 De Kolta Chair

275 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 9:32:46pm

re: #272 klys

I don’t post enough cat photos. I should do more of that.

In the winter, my Twitter is 67% this: “37 Beaver Creek” which signifies it’s my 37th day skiing this winter and I was at Beaver Creek, and “instagram something-something” a picture I took of the beautiful snowy mountains from where I was skiing.

OK, it’s not 67% more like 34%. Still, my Twitter (to your average Twitterer) gets less active in winter. For good reason! :)

276 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 9:33:28pm

Don’t have a cat, but..Video

277 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 9:34:31pm

Well, this raised my eyebrows.

278 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:34:36pm

re: #274 klys

That looks just like my old pal Nemo, who spoiled me on cats. He was an incomparable character, and we had a ton of fun together. But aren’t they all incomparable?

279 klys  Sep 26, 2014 9:35:48pm

More progress today, and I’m still not done…

280 Floral Giraffe  Sep 26, 2014 9:40:02pm

re: #279 klys

It’s really beautiful!

281 teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2014 9:40:38pm

David Roberts is a fascinating online person. I never heard of the guy until last year, when he said he was quitting internet for an entire year. He followed through and his Outside Magazine piece that he wrote after his online sabbatical is a great read. I especially like the part where - halfway through his online sabbatical - him and his friends holed up in a cabin in NE Utah and went skiing everyday.

I started following him a couple of days after he came back online. I respect his unrelenting coverage of climate change.

LGF twitterers, follow: @drgrist

282 klys  Sep 26, 2014 9:41:22pm

re: #280 Floral Giraffe

It’s really beautiful!

It’s coming along nicely, I agree. There is still so much more to go though. I’m maybe a third of the way through it at this point.

283 klys  Sep 26, 2014 9:46:23pm

Macaroni and cheese is happening tomorrow.

/sigh.

284 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 9:49:31pm

Time Lord Kitteh

Well done, Katie Cook. Painting in gauche is not as easy as it looks, unless I’ve been doing it wrong for the past 45 years, which wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

285 ninja cat  Sep 26, 2014 10:22:15pm

This spot and no other.

286 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 10:29:38pm

Jerry Garcia, Cats Under The Stars

Youtube Video

287 klys  Sep 26, 2014 10:29:58pm

re: #285 ninja cat

I am very familiar with this concept.

288 De Kolta Chair  Sep 26, 2014 10:46:09pm

Youtube Video

Searchin’ high, searchin’ low
Searchin’ everywhere I know
Askin’ the cops wherever I go
Have you seen dignity?

Later gators.

289 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 10:50:23pm

Congrats! Love the name….

Chelsea Clinton gives birth to a daughter

cnn.com

290 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 26, 2014 10:50:31pm

re: #277 teleskiguy

Most will be coal-fired, probably, though there are plans to build another mega-dam like Three Gorges Dam for hydro power. Either way, a major ecological disaster awaits us in China.

291 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 10:58:56pm

I can’t sleep. Worried about my boy, my precious Little (Cavalier King Charles Spaniel rescue) and the decision that is clear and reasonable but has me feeling… I dunno, like a heel? a terrible mom? a horrible person?

Little is 13-15 years old - don’t know since he’s a rescue but he’s been with me for 9-1/2 years now. I love him dearly. A year ago he presented with congestive heart disease which takes out 75% of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels after the age of 10. He’s been doing well with the medications but his days are numbered, the disease progresses and there is nothing to be done about it. He has months left, maybe weeks. Who knows?

So he has these eye problems now. Bad cataract in one eye, but now he’s developed corneal ulcers in both eyes and maybe glaucoma. Took him to the vet today and the vet says I need to take him to an ophthalmologist so we can learn exactly what’s going on. He gave me eye drops, which gave Little total relief a couple of months ago when the ulcer issue first came up in the one eye and more drops to relieve pressure in case the problem is glaucoma since I can’t get him to the specialist until next week. I’ll know in a day or two if that is helping because I’ll be able to see it.

But I’m thinking why the hell are we worried about him going blind? His heart will give out long before that happens. Taking him to a specialist will cost hundreds of dollars and for what? Surgery is out of the question since he wouldn’t even survive it. His diminished eyesight isn’t causing him any distress that I can detect - he only has a little trouble at night and I’m there to guide him past obstacles. (A Seeing Eye Human)

My reason tells me that there is no point or purpose to the expense of a doggie eye specialist for a terminally ill spaniel. My emotion and love for the boy tells me I’m a horrible person for even thinking about the cost. (If he was in otherwise good health, the cost wouldn’t be a thought.) His comfort and happiness is everything for the time he has left - I won’t have my boy in pain. The eye drops from my regular vet takes care of that.

I feel like a horrible doggie mom right now.

292 klys  Sep 26, 2014 11:01:15pm

re: #291 allegro

You are doing what is right for him, to give him the best quality of life that you can. You are a wonderful doggie mom.

I know how little difference those words can make sometimes, though.

{{allegro}}

293 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 11:06:03pm

re: #291 allegro

So sorry Allegro, know how it feels. It’s just an awful feeling. Hang in there.

294 RadicalModerate  Sep 26, 2014 11:10:26pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

I admit, I’ve never heard of the Benham brothers before. But these two guys are just repellent.

Those are the sons of Flip Benham, the guy who split off from Randall Terry’s “Operation Rescue” anti-abortion group because Terry just wasn’t supportive enough of violent tactics.

Phillip ‘Flip’ Benham Found Guilty Of Stalking Abortion Doctor In North Carolina

295 Jenner7  Sep 26, 2014 11:11:55pm

This is Mr. Wiggles. We had to let him go on 9/10/2001, day before 9/11. One of the hardest things to do.

This is Atty (Atticus Spartacus), we got him in 2012. Almost a spittin’ image of Mr. Wiggles. He’ll be 3 in December.

296 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 26, 2014 11:15:27pm

re: #291 allegro

Sometimes the equivalent of hospice and giving palliative care are the best options for our companions.

297 klys  Sep 26, 2014 11:18:17pm

I realize that noise outside was probably just one of the neighborhood cats but it’s not really what I needed at the moment…

298 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 11:32:06pm

Thanks, y’all. We critter lovers know the pain of these decisions and wondering forever if we did the right thing. Been through this many times and it never gets any easier. They live such a short time! But they are so worth the years they have to share with us. I wouldn’t give up my years with Little for anything and I cherish the time I have left with him.

I came by my critter love genetically - my dad was a complete sucker for critters. The difference between us is that my dad couldn’t stand the loss. He grieved the loss of his beloved German Shepherd from his childhood to the day he died and swore off ever having another pet to spare himself that pain. Then he parented a kid who chased every living critter from the time she could crawl. He had to bear that grief for the love of his daughter’s pets that he too loved. (My parents damn near divorced over a duck.)

299 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 11:35:24pm

re: #295 Jenner7

Corgi? What a cutie!

300 Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2014 11:45:21pm

Harvey. He’s my small dog at 80 lbs, a chocolate lab/border collie mix.

Harvey the squirrel killer

My older dog is on her last year. It sucks.

301 allegro  Sep 26, 2014 11:48:28pm

re: #300 Single-handed sailor

Harvey. He’s my small dog at 80 lbs, a chocolate lab/border collie mix.

Harvey the squirrel killer

My older dog is on her last year. It sucks.

He looks like he has Boxer in him. What a handsome boy!

302 3eff Jeff  Sep 26, 2014 11:59:43pm

re: #291 allegro

My Mom’s dog is Buddy, a 10 year old Golden Retriever. He’s got bad cataracts and is basically blind at this point. You have to watch him carefully to notice. He does some odd things (like grab your leg with his front paws rather than just follow you, and take slower, careful steps), but other than that his nose and ears get him around. He’s a pretty happy dog, and being blind doesn’t seem to have really slowed him down.

Look at it in terms of quality of life. He’s still got his nose and ears, and those are probably more important to him anyway. If the glaucoma (or whatever it ends up being) isn’t actually painful (I’d ask the vet), it might not be that terrible a thing for him.

It sounds like he’s not lacking for love.

303 klys  Sep 27, 2014 12:04:16am

Still left to my own devices…

304 Jenner7  Sep 27, 2014 12:11:16am

re: #299 allegro

Mr. Wiggles was a mixed of everything lol and Atty is a Chihuahua/Jack Russell.

305 Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2014 12:24:00am

CCJ tweets Glenn Greenwald. The Derp-Dudebro circle is complete.

306 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 27, 2014 3:33:34am

307 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 4:25:33am

tic tic tic tic

2 1/2 hours of work left then off to the coast for some golf, friends, food and golf for a few days

tic tic tic tic

308 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 4:29:01am

re: #291 allegro

re: #302 3eff Jeff

yeah

Our oldest, Einstein, has cataracts in both eyes. Vet says just like us, there’s inconvenience but no pain

When he’s out in the yard he stays close by our other dog, McDuff and basically follows his lead investigating the fence/ perimeter

309 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 4:36:27am

re: #307 sattv4u2

tic tic tic tic

2 1/2 hours of work left then off to the coast for some golf, friends, food and golf for a few days

tic tic tic tic

1/2 hour but just for the night. But Jake Leinenkugel’s finest awaits after that.

310 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 27, 2014 4:37:43am

Some Font Awesome fun with Chuckles.

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311 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 4:40:16am

re: #309 William Barnett-Lewis

1/2 hour but just for the night. But Jake Leinenkugel’s finest awaits after that.

Oh, I’m sure in the next several days there will be copious amounts of adult beverages consumed

As we ‘speak” my friends are on a flight from Boston to Myrtle Beach. Once I’m done here (at work) I’ll drive straight there (about a 6 hour jaunt). I’ve already told them the fridge better be stocked by the time I arrive

312 Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2014 4:51:14am

re: #311 sattv4u2

Oh, I’m sure in the next several days there will be copious amounts of adult beverages consumed

As we ‘speak” my friends are on a flight from Boston to Myrtle Beach. Once I’m done here (at work) I’ll drive straight there (about a 6 hour jaunt). I’ve already told them the fridge better be stocked by the time I arrive

I’m held captive at a 2-day BBQ competition w/ free beer. One more day and I’ll be released.

On the other hand, there are accordions.

313 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 4:56:53am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

I’m held captive at a 2-day BBQ competition w/ free beer. one more day and I’ll be released.

On the other hand, there are accordions.

dammit,, now I want some brisket

314 Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2014 5:01:57am
315 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 27, 2014 5:08:18am

re: #310 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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316 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 5:10:39am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

re: #313 sattv4u2

dammit,, now I want some brisket

If you weren’t in the opposite direction I’d stop by! Any way you can convince the festival organizers to move to, say, Augusta Ga. so I can stop on the way!!?!?!?

317 Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2014 5:15:35am

We do it twice a year—hold on until April. You’re heading into the Carolinas, and theirs is better than ours.

318 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 5:16:52am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

We do it twice a year—hold on until April. You’re heading into the Carolinas, and theirs is better than ours.

As a general rule, yes. But I’ve found terrible BBQ in the Carolinas,, and otoh,, a few GREAT places in New England

319 Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2014 5:18:08am

Dogwalk time, then have to get the Dem campaign tent set up before the post-judging consumption of the evidence. BBL

(Burp)

320 Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2014 5:21:34am

re: #318 sattv4u2

As a general rule, yes. But I’ve found terrible BBQ in the Carolinas,, and otoh,, a few GREAT places in New England

If you’re around Ft. Bragg, Chasten’s is the place. Our Operations section pulled temporary duty all over the free world. Part of each de-briefing was to capture the best eating joints for the giant loose-leaf folder, for the next team.

321 sattv4u2  Sep 27, 2014 5:25:47am

re: #320 Decatur Deb

If you’re around Ft. Bragg, Chasten’s is the place. Our Operations section pulled temporary duty all over the free world. Part of each de-briefing was to capture the best eating joints for the giant loose-leaf folder, for the next team.

Will keep that in mind

I’m not usually in/around North Carolina, and when I do drive “home” (Boston) i usually take 85 through there, not 95

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 5:27:30am

re: #311 sattv4u2

Oh, I’m sure in the next several days there will be copious amounts of adult beverages consumed

As we ‘speak” my friends are on a flight from Boston to Myrtle Beach. Once I’m done here (at work) I’ll drive straight there (about a 6 hour jaunt). I’ve already told them the fridge better be stocked by the time I arrive

< twist > < spfffttt > < glug > Sorry, did you say something?

///// ;)

323 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 5:29:33am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

I’m held captive at a 2-day BBQ competition w/ free beer. One more day and I’ll be released.

On the other hand, there are accordions.

“Roll out the barrel, we’ll have a barrel of fun!” 3/4 polka time, accordions, beer - what’s not to like?

Ok, I just really outed myself as an old Wisconsin farm boy didn’t I? LOL!

324 Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2014 5:31:25am

re: #44 jaunte

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Huck The Heretic Hunter.

Good. Look up how to get my key that is stuck in my ignition out. I’ll wait for your reply. TIA

325 lawhawk  Sep 27, 2014 5:32:22am

re: #305 Ace-o-aces

But isn’t Obama the most-anti-Israel of all the anti-Israel presidents the nation has ever had?

Yet Israel is driving the US policy in the Middle East and has wrapped up a neo-con axis between the oil states, Israel, and the US to go after ISIL?

My head hurts.

The thing is that Greenwald sees Israel behind all policy choices in the Middle East. They’re tricksy.

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 5:32:34am

re: #320 Decatur Deb

If you’re around Ft. Bragg, Chasten’s is the place. Our Operations section pulled temporary duty all over the free world. Part of each de-briefing was to capture the best eating joints for the giant loose-leaf folder, for the next team.

That’s an excellent idea that I wish more Ops sections would do.

327 Romantic Heretic  Sep 27, 2014 5:35:56am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

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I wouldn’t go near that hashtag for all the tea in China.

328 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 27, 2014 5:58:01am

re: #324 Eventual Carrion

Good. Look up how to get my key that is stuck in my ignition out. I’ll wait for your reply. TIA

Happened to me last month in my Saturn Ion. There’s a little squarish panel with rounded corners on the steering column. You take that off and inside there’s a little button that you press with your thumb. Key slides right out after that.

I think the whole procedure is documented somewhere in the Book of Revelation, but I called the service department of my local dealership. It was quicker than trying to decipher John of Patmos’s metaphorical language.

329 Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2014 6:04:43am
330 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 6:28:58am
331 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 6:33:25am

re: #330 wrenchwench

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Filed under “Shot Across the Bow”.

332 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 6:36:56am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

Filed under “Shot Across the Bow”.

I find it difficult to comprehend the thinking of anyone who thought it would be a good idea to wear one of those. That’s a head I don’t really want to enter.

333 Flounder  Sep 27, 2014 6:40:33am

re: #330 wrenchwench

Fascinating, since the DOJ in its own letter stated they couldn’t prove that the officers wearing the bracelets and blocking out their name tags were from the Ferguson Police Department.

334 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 27, 2014 6:43:38am

re: #330 wrenchwench

“We also acknowledge that the message that many officers intend to convey by wearing these bracelets may be different than the message received by many of those who see these bracelets.”

Oh really?

335 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 6:46:32am

re: #333 Flounder

Fascinating, since the DOJ in its own letter stated they couldn’t prove that the officers wearing the bracelets and blocking out their name tags were from the Ferguson Police Department.

Looks like they intend to hold Chief Jackson accountable for ‘the actions of other police officers while in Ferguson.’

Someone has to be accountable for them.

336 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 6:50:59am

I am Ferguson’s Police Chief. Any officer operating in my jurisdiction is not authorized to wear ‘I Am Darren Wilson’ bracelets, badges, stickers, or any other signage method. Also, taping over your name or badge numbers is not allowed. Doing so will result in removal of duties.

Sometimes doing the right thing is easy.

337 Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2014 6:51:05am

re: #306 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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Was that pic taken in Australia?

338 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 27, 2014 6:59:07am

re: #330 wrenchwench

Maybe wearing those bracelets is their way of compensating for the fact that they can’t produce the real Darren Wilson. And here I thought that, in America, if you haven’t done anything wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.

339 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 6:59:23am
340 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 7:02:32am

bbl

341 Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2014 7:06:31am

re: #328 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Happened to me last month in my Saturn Ion. There’s a little squarish panel with rounded corners on the steering column. You take that off and inside there’s a little button that you press with your thumb. Key slides right out after that.

I think the whole procedure is documented somewhere in the Book of Revelation, but I called the service department of my local dealership. It was quicker than trying to decipher John of Patmos’s metaphorical language.

I’m going to let GM take care of it. 3 days after it happened I got a recall letter for the ignition switch. 2005 Monte Carlo. Can’t make appointment until after Oct. 1st for some reason (I was going around about that with the service manager). I would think they have at least one good cylinder setting around or could be shipped in before then.

342 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 7:07:57am

If the Oklahoma beheader is an indicator of Islam, then all abortion terrorism/murder and anti-LGBT hate is a key component of Christianity.

343 Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2014 7:17:29am

Too good to pass up…. Today is going to be wonderful!!

344 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 7:19:38am

re: #343 Dave In Austin

Someone needs to tell him that being that drunk that early in the day is really hard on the liver. God doesn’t like it at all. That’s why he created cirrhosis…

345 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 7:21:02am

re: #344 William Barnett-Lewis

Someone needs to tell him that being that drunk that early in the day is really hard on the liver. God doesn’t like it at all. That’s why he created cirrhosis…

It’s a parody account.

346 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 27, 2014 7:21:08am

re: #341 Eventual Carrion

I’m going to let GM take care of it. 3 days after it happened I got a recall letter for the ignition switch. 2005 Monte Carlo. Can’t make appointment until after Oct. 1st for some reason (I was going around about that with the service manager). I would think they have at least one good cylinder setting around or could be shipped in before then.

I waited several months for mine. I think it’s really a case of having a long waiting list and not enough switches.

If they had one just sitting around, it wouldn’t sit for long.

347 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 7:26:45am

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a parody account.

I’ve known too many real people like that, alas, to not be fooled.

348 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 7:30:30am

Levin and Perkins live, it’s a hoot.

It’s a PersecutionComplexPalooza.

349 bratwurst  Sep 27, 2014 7:30:46am

(If so, this says more about the other people he deals with than anything else!)

350 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 7:36:46am

Levin:

We are the centrist middle between the left and the neo-confederates

LOL

351 socrets  Sep 27, 2014 7:39:15am

No hillybilly thread would be complete without this.

352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 27, 2014 7:48:56am

re: #351 socrets

No hillybilly thread would be complete without this.

One of my favorite episodes of “Bloom County” involves a fever dream in which Opus the Penguin is hitchhiking and gets picked up with the banjo player from Deliverance as an adult. He has a sledgehammer on the front seat that he calls “Edna”…

353 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 7:49:50am
354 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 7:51:25am
355 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 7:57:14am

re: #338 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Maybe wearing those bracelets is their way of compensating for the fact that they can’t produce the real Darren Wilson. And here I thought that, in America, if you haven’t done anything wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.

I wish that was true, but I’ve know it wasn’t since I was a teenager. Its true that US cops aren’t bad by the standards of the world (the great majority of ours, even the nasty ones, aren’t corrupt), but you can end up in trouble with the police just because you tick them off or because they’ve decided your actions represent a challenge to their authority (even good cops will arrest you if they think that latter the case).

356 makeitstop  Sep 27, 2014 8:04:54am

re: #339 Ryan King

“Ferguson police chief sees self, department as misunderstood”

They’re a bunch of racist GI Joe wannabes who believe that because they’re in law enforcement, it makes them above the law.

I understand them perfectly, Chief. It ain’t that hard to figure out.

357 bratwurst  Sep 27, 2014 8:10:17am

Khorasan truther!

358 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 8:11:10am

re: #357 bratwurst

Khorasan truther!

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You can’t handle the Truth, Sheeple!

359 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 8:14:33am

re: #355 Dark_Falcon

I wish that was true, but I’ve know it wasn’t since I was a teenager. Its true that US cops aren’t bad by the standards of the world (the great majority of ours, even the nasty ones, aren’t corrupt), but you can end up in trouble with the police just because you tick them off or because they’ve decided your actions represent a challenge to their authority (even good cops will arrest you if they think that latter the case).

All too true.

One of the jobs I enjoyed the most in my Army time was training MP’s to deal with how vague things are in the real world (Bosnia was hot then).

My son, as an adopted asian male will never face quite as much inherent evil as his black friends. And because we grew up so “OK” to the police he has no sense of danger from them - not even as much as I did in the 70’s.

The police - despite all the good men and women I have known - are not inherently our friends. They live in a very different world from normal Americans. There is good and bad to that but it exists nonetheless.

The only thing I know with any certainty anymore is that I do what ever I think will give my boy a slightly better day sometime when, all too soon, I will not be there to help him in person.

Fuck the far left. The revolution will never happen.

Fuck the far right & libertarian right. Your anarchist fantasy will only make us a nation of serfs.

The only thing I want to know is what I can do to spend these last couple of years I have on this planet to keep my son from being put in prison just because some right wing asshole “Feels” safer.

360 Ryan King  Sep 27, 2014 8:14:38am
361 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 8:14:51am

re: #357 bratwurst

get over it

Smart take.

362 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 8:17:38am
“…It’s not 100 percent clear that the group actually calls itself Khorasan — which, given that Khorasan refers to a region, would basically be the same as a National Guard unit from Virginia simply calling itself Virginia. For probably that reason, the US government internally refers to it as the Khorasan Shura [council], rather than simply Khorasan. But there is also some skepticism among analysts that this is the group’s name.

“Most likely it has no fixed name at all,” Lund suggests. “The ‘Khorasan Group’ label has simply been invented for convenience by U.S. intelligence or adopted from informal references within the Nusra Front [other Syrian al-Qaeda fighters] to these men as being, for example, ‘Our brothers from Khorasan.’”
vox.com

363 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:18:59am

re: #357 bratwurst

Khorasan truther!

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There’s been some confusion. It’s ‘Grupo Corazon’.

Youtube Video

364 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:20:17am

re: #357 bratwurst

re: #358 Ryan King

Actually, guys, John Schindler is one of the good guys. And he’s been critical enough of presidents in general that I don’t think he is using “Obama White House” in the wingnut fashion. He is being critical of the Obama administration, make no mistake, but his criticism highly likely about facts and policy, not ODS.

365 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:21:21am

re: #357 bratwurst

Khorasan truther!

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Oh, and he’s referring to an article by Andrew McCarthy in NRO…

re: #364 Dark_Falcon

Actually, guys, John Schindler is one of the good guys. And he’s been critical enough of presidents in general that I don’t think he is using “Obama White House” in the wingnut fashion. He is being critical of the Obama administration, make no mistake, but his criticism highly likely about facts and policy, not ODS.

…which is evidence against this.

366 dholmes32  Sep 27, 2014 8:22:33am

re: #341 Eventual Carrion

I’m going to let GM take care of it. 3 days after it happened I got a recall letter for the ignition switch. 2005 Monte Carlo. Can’t make appointment until after Oct. 1st for some reason (I was going around about that with the service manager). I would think they have at least one good cylinder setting around or could be shipped in before then.

I just got my car back from the dealership (2006 Saturn Ion) on Wednesday. Two weeks ago the ignition couldn’t be turned off. (Protip: Go to the fuse box. Remove the fuel pump relay. Wait until engine stops. Replace fuel pump relay. Then disconnect the battery to keep it from draining.) Everything is great except…now my ignition key doesn’t open the driver’s side door. (Passenger door is cool.) I’m leaving in a couple of hours for an long-overdue vacation and I’ll deal with it when I get back.

This is the first time I’ve had problem with my Saturn in the 8.5 years I’ve owned it, and it was due to GM’s screwup in being cheap. I swear I’m gonna buy a Ford or a Dodge next time, I’m so annoyed.

367 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 27, 2014 8:22:48am

re: #343 Dave In Austin

“Help! I’m being oppressed!”
- Conservative Battle Cry

368 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 8:26:38am

Andrew McCarthy:

“Obama has not quelled our enemies; he has miniaturized them. The jihad and the sharia supremacism that fuels it form the glue that unites the parts into a whole — a worldwide, ideologically connected movement rooted in Islamic scripture that can project power on the scale of a nation-state* and that seeks to conquer the West. The president does not want us to see the threat this way.”**

* bullshit

** partisan silliness

369 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:35:44am

re: #368 jaunte

Andrew McCarthy:

* bullshit

** partisan silliness

*: Al-Qaeda may not have tanks, but it still has more men under arms than many small armies.

**: Even if correct, so what? This is a election season with a war going on. National Review’s mission is to get Republican voters to the polls while making sure they still support a military action that NR thinks needs to occur. For both of those things to happen, invective needs to be aimed at Barack Obama. One needs to make allowances for the realities of partisan politics.

370 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:35:47am

re: #368 jaunte

Andrew McCarthy:

* bullshit

** partisan silliness

Thanks for reading it so I don’t have to.

371 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 8:36:04am

Our unquelled enemies have been simultaneously miniaturized and enlarged to nation-state power, by a president that is simultaneously tyrannical and too weak.

Bases covered.

372 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 8:36:56am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

invective needs to be aimed at Barack Obama

I’d prefer that they make an honest argument.

373 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:38:35am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

*: Al-Qaeda may not have tanks, but it still has more men under arms than many small armies.

**: Even if correct, so what? This is a election season with a war going on. National Review’s mission is to get Republican voters to the polls while making sure they still support a military action that NR thinks needs to occur. For both of those things to happen, invective needs to be aimed at Barack Obama. One needs to make allowances for the realities of partisan politics.

Is Schindler still a ‘good guy’ for tweeting McCarthy’s article? Is it still about ‘facts and policy’? Does the dick tweet have anything to do with whether he’s a ‘good guy’?

374 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:40:24am

re: #372 jaunte

I’d prefer that they make an honest argument.

I’d prefer real argument too, but that’s not the fashion in American politics right now.

375 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:40:58am

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

I’d prefer real argument too, but that’s not the fashion in American Republican politics right now.

FTFY

376 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:41:26am

This sums it up for me:

377 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:43:38am

And I’ll lay off it now, unless I decide to actually read the thing I’m commenting on. I apologize for commenting on something I haven’t read.

378 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 8:44:46am

re: #375 wrenchwench

FTFY

Actually, DF is closer to true. Neither party gives a rats ass about reality in their advertising. We have a much harder job defeating the right wing as a result.

379 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:45:40am

re: #373 wrenchwench

Is Schindler still a ‘good guy’ for tweeting McCarthy’s article? Is it still about ‘facts and policy’? Does the dick tweet have anything to do with whether he’s a ‘good guy’?

He used McCarthy’s theme, but did not link to MCarthy in the tweet posted here. I checked his timeline but did not find a tweet where he did that. There may be one, though, since I admit I got distracted by this.

380 Snarknado!  Sep 27, 2014 8:49:44am

re: #369

For both of those things to happen, invective needs to be aimed at Barack Obama.

Really? What happened to civility? What happened to respect — for other people and for the office? And when did we decide that policy gets decided by the loudest, nastiest shouter?

381 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2014 8:50:14am

382 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 27, 2014 8:51:22am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

, since I admit I got distracted by this.

WTFuckityFuck??????

Oy, turtle is my totem. He needs to have one of his riders decide he needs to “hang on” better …

this just makes me wish for the UN troops to enforce environmental laws ala David Brin’s “Earth”.

383 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 8:52:35am

re: #381 GlutenFreeJesus

384 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:53:29am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

He used McCarthy’s theme, but did not link to MCarthy in the tweet posted here. I checked his timeline but did not find a tweet where he did that. There may be one, though, since I admit I got distracted by this.

If you look four tweets down from the one Bratwurst posted, you’ll see Schindler retweeted this:

Watch out for those turtles. I’d think that would be close enough to the dick tweet question you could address that too. Also the question about whether Schindler was referring to ‘facts and policy’ in his tweet about Khorosan.

Edited to add: The retweet about the McCarthy article is four tweets above the turtle one.

385 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:53:51am

re: #380 Snarknado!

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Really? What happened to civility? What happened to respect — for other people and for the office? And when did we decide that policy gets decided by the loudest, nastiest shouter?

“We” didn’t decide that. I don’t think anyone here likes that state of affairs. But political consultants and campaign managers on both sides of the partisan divide have decided to rely mostly on negative attacks this year.

In part this is because no one sees anything major getting done till 2017.

386 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 8:55:07am

re: #378 William Barnett-Lewis

Actually, DF is closer to true. Neither party gives a rats ass about reality in their advertising. We have a much harder job defeating the right wing as a result.

There are problems with both parties, but I don’t see parity in the ‘truth’ department.

387 Snarknado!  Sep 27, 2014 8:55:16am

re: #380 Snarknado!

And why is this comment in italics?

388 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 8:58:13am

re: #382 William Barnett-Lewis

WTFuckityFuck??????

Oy, turtle is my totem. He needs to have one of his riders decide he needs to “hang on” better …

this just makes me wish for the UN troops to enforce environmental laws ala David Brin’s “Earth”.

Actually, introduced North American turtles are a problem in some parts of China.

389 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 9:00:28am

re: #384 wrenchwench

Edited to add: The retweet about the McCarthy article is four tweets above the turtle one.

390 Snarknado!  Sep 27, 2014 9:01:19am

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

By we, I mean the country of which, last time I looked, we were all citizens. If you shrug and say that’s just the way it is, you’re part of the problem.

391 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:03:22am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

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purriodictableofcats.com

392 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 9:05:20am

A flock of 18 wild turkeys just walked by outside.

393 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:05:56am

re: #390 Snarknado!

By we, I mean the country of which, last time I looked, we were all citizens. If you shrug and say that’s just the way it is, you’re part of the problem.

The citizenry’s ability to effect change those sorts of campaign decisions is limited in our two-party system. For the most part, such decisions are the purview of competing groups of political elites.

394 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:06:47am

re: #392 jaunte

A flock of 18 wild turkeys just walked by outside.

See if they live nearby or will pass by ferquently. Thanksgiving coming soon you know. ;)

395 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 9:07:22am

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

I tried to get an address but they just hurried away.

396 Snarknado!  Sep 27, 2014 9:10:16am

re: #392 jaunte

A flock of 18 wild turkeys just walked by outside.

I saw a lone wild turkey walking up the street outside my building as if he owned the place a while back. (There’s a flock of them up in the hills.)

397 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 9:12:05am

re: #392 jaunte

A flock of 18 wild turkeys just walked by outside.

I had a flock of them visit me in early March last year:

398 jaunte  Sep 27, 2014 9:12:42am

re: #396 Snarknado!

I’m in central TX right now, overlooking a wooded low spot that runs down into a creek. It’s like a highway for wildlife.

399 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 9:19:03am

More Chicago Flights Canceled; Suspect Was Told Of Hawaii Transfer

It’s still early in Chicago, but the number of canceled flights is creeping toward 700, as workers try to restore one of the nation’s busiest air traffic control systems. The system was crippled Friday, officials say, after a disgruntled employee set a fire in a federal radar center.

New details emerged late Friday about the suspect in the case, Brian Howard, 36, after the FBI filed a preliminary criminal complaint in federal court. It accuses Howard of sending a note to a relative Friday morning in which he bid them farewell and said he was taking down the Chicago Air Route Traffic Control Center in Aurora, Illinois.

Howard was a contract employee who had worked at the control center for some eight years, according to the document. It also states that he had recently been informed that he was being transferred to Hawaii.

The affidavit says Howard entered the control center shortly after 5 a.m. Friday, pulling a hard-sided rolling suitcase behind him. Thirty minutes later, he sent a note via Facebook that caused a relative to report its contents to the police.

400 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2014 9:20:23am

Well this is annoying. had a major ant invasion. So bad our kitchen contents are all in bags and sacks in the living room. But no exterminator until Monday. Maybe I could borrow a Dalek for the day. “EXTERMINATE!”

Can’t cook, clean or even walk around. Maybe it’s a good day to fill the truck with Dragon_Lady, gas, cameras and overnight go bag. Come back late Sunday.

401 Lidane  Sep 27, 2014 9:23:11am
402 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:26:33am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

More Chicago Flights Canceled; Suspect Was Told Of Hawaii Transfer

I’m kinda glad they just told him he was being transferred; If he’d have been fired instead, an asshole like that might have come into that office with a gun and murder on his mind.

403 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 27, 2014 9:29:10am

re: #400 Rightwingconspirator

Well this is annoying. had a major ant invasion. So bad our kitchen contents are all in bags and sacks in the living room. But no exterminator until Monday. Maybe I could borrow a Dalek for the day. “EXTERMINATE!”

Can’t cook, clean or even walk around. Maybe it’s a good day to fill the truck with Dragon_Lady, gas, cameras and overnight go bag. Come back late Sunday.

Marabunta! Marabunta!

imdb.com

“Leiningen, you’re up against a monster twenty miles long and two miles wide… forty square miles of agonizing death! You can’t stop it!”

Not one of Charlton Heston’s better roles, IMHO.

404 makeitstop  Sep 27, 2014 9:30:53am

re: #387 Snarknado!

And why is this comment in italics?

The < em > tag. Looks like it got carried over from the quote.

405 makeitstop  Sep 27, 2014 9:33:13am

re: #401 Lidane

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Wotta loon. Also, potential big $$$ in the grift.

406 Lidane  Sep 27, 2014 9:33:56am
407 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:36:37am

re: #406 Lidane

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Cat: “This mutt shall SUFFER for this indignity.”

408 Lidane  Sep 27, 2014 9:41:01am
409 Snarknado!  Sep 27, 2014 9:41:53am

re: #404 makeitstop

The < em > tag. Looks like it got carried over from the quote.

Except that I saw it and removed it. Italics still there. So I hit the pencil button again. No tag visible. Italics still present (cue Outer Limits theme).

410 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2014 9:42:18am

re: #324 Eventual Carrion

Good. Look up how to get my key that is stuck in my ignition out. I’ll wait for your reply. TIA

Sounds like you need a new car battery.

411 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2014 9:44:39am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi

Marabunta! Marabunta!

imdb.com

“Leiningen, you’re up against a monster twenty miles long and two miles wide… forty square miles of agonizing death! You can’t stop it!”

Not one of Charlton Heston’s better roles, IMHO.

I just watched The Omega Man a week or so ago. Intensely ‘70’s look and feel. I felt cheesy just watching.

412 Lidane  Sep 27, 2014 9:44:48am

Historical perspective, how the fuck does it work?

413 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 9:46:23am

My new French press was delivered this morning.
Brewing some coffee right now…

414 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:47:50am

re: #408 Lidane

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Like the sergeant he profiled who posted on Facebook “In honor of DoD ending DADT, I’ve serving Chick-Fil-a” at my family’s picnic, got put on the separation list as a result (he was effectively downsized, but was honorably discharged), and then Starnes reported that the man said his family “just liked Chick-Fil-a’s chicken sandwiches?

Todd Starnes can fuck right off.

415 Lidane  Sep 27, 2014 9:47:59am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

My new French press was delivered this morning.
Brewing some coffee right now…

That reminds me. Caffeine is needed. Better go put the coffee on.

416 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 9:49:31am

re: #412 Lidane

Historical perspective, how the fuck does it work?

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The only possible sane reply to THAT:

417 makeitstop  Sep 27, 2014 9:52:13am

re: #409 Snarknado!

Except that I saw it and removed it. Italics still there. So I hit the pencil button again. No tag visible. Italics still present (cue Outer Limits theme).

Teh tags, they is haunted.

418 FemNaziBitch  Sep 27, 2014 9:52:53am

I think the Quiverfull movement is going to backfire. I know many adults from large families and the last thing they want is children.

419 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:05:03am
420 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 27, 2014 10:07:37am

re: #368 jaunte

“Obama has not quelled our enemies; he has miniaturized them. The jihad and the sharia supremacism that fuels it form the glue that unites the parts into a whole — a worldwide, ideologically connected movement rooted in Islamic scripture that can project power on the scale of a nation-state* and that seeks to conquer the West. The president does not want us to see the threat this way.”

If militant Islam is the problem then dismantling any particular group of jihadis will simply enable the rise of another militant group of jihadis. Militant Islam in various forms has been encouraged and supported by our current allies in the region for reasons of their own. As long as the movement has support from those nations and from the imams it will continue to produce groups like ISIS. Jihadis do not have the ability to project power on the scale of a nation state. They can project significant power only as far as they can march. Even a middling nation state can do far more in that arena.

421 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:08:28am

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

I’d prefer real argument too, but that’s not the fashion in American politics right now.

Yeah? Well, I’d prefer that their “argument” not consist of painting all observant Muslims (that would include me) as terrorists:

For a product of the radical Left like Obama, terrorism is a regrettable but understandable consequence of American arrogance. That it happens to involve Muslims is just the coincidental fallout of Western imperialism in the Middle East, not the doctrinal command of a belief system that perceives itself as engaged in an inter-civilizational conflict.

To hell with that bigot and anyone who thinks what he said is okay because, “Politics!”

422 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 27, 2014 10:10:29am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi

Marabunta! Marabunta!

imdb.com

“Leiningen, you’re up against a monster twenty miles long and two miles wide… forty square miles of agonizing death! You can’t stop it!”

Not one of Charlton Heston’s better roles, IMHO.

I read the original story in grade school (“Leiningen Versus the Ants” in Great Tales of Action and Adventure). I didn’t know they’d made a movie of it.

423 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:11:43am

Sort of.

At the end of today’s Cashin’ In, Hoenig took the time to issue a sincere apology for those comments, though he believes they were misinterpreted. He elaborated:

“My point was to illustrate that profiling potential threats based on ideology could be a needed safeguard, and in the context of wartime, I believe being able to identify an enemy’s ideology, and be on the alert for it, is the first step to actually achieving peace.”

424 Aye Pod  Sep 27, 2014 10:13:44am

Awww…too cute!

Image: post-2-0-22822200-1409686887.jpg

425 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:14:00am

re: #417 makeitstop

Teh tags, they is haunted.

Ha! Speaking of, I was just marveling at this story about a PD in northern New Mexico where some of the officers believe they have a ghost:

New Mexico Police Catch Mysterious Ghostly Intruder on Camera

“A lot of officers have seen certain things,” said Karl Romero. “Some officers have felt someone breathing down their necks as they’re working in the briefing room.”

The tales have convinced some officers that the supernatural sightings are real.

“I do believe it was something,” said Solomon Romero. “It was hard to say but I do believe in ghosts.”

abcnews.go.com

Heh, not sure how comfortable I am knowing that men with guns and the authority to shoot believe in ghosts.

426 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:18:16am

re: #424 Aye Pod

Awww…too cute!

Image: post-2-0-22822200-1409686887.jpg

LOL—you’re right, it is kinda cute.

427 Aye Pod  Sep 27, 2014 10:18:51am

Getting exasperated with people on facebook who are easily duped into supporting fascists.

anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk

428 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:18:59am

re: #425 CuriousLurker

Ha! Speaking of, I was just marveling at this story about a PD in northern New Mexico where some of the officers believe they have a ghost:

Heh, not sure how comfortable I am knowing that men with guns and the authority to shoot believe in ghosts.

Well, it is ‘The Land of Enchantment’. Enchantment isn’t always a good thing.

429 Aye Pod  Sep 27, 2014 10:19:09am

re: #426 CuriousLurker

LOL—you’re right, it is kinda cute.

Needs a loving home :-)

430 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:20:22am

re: #428 wrenchwench

Well, it is ‘The Land of Enchantment’. Enchantment isn’t always a good thing.

Hahahahahaha… good point!

431 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:20:39am

I knew this guy was a good writer. I didn’t know he was such a good photographer too.

432 Aye Pod  Sep 27, 2014 10:20:42am

re: #425 CuriousLurker

Ha! Speaking of, I was just marveling at this story about a PD in northern New Mexico where some of the officers believe they have a ghost:

Heh, not sure how comfortable I am knowing that men with guns and the authority to shoot believe in ghosts.

You just know they’d try to shoot those ghosts too :-(

433 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2014 10:22:24am

More on the volcano in Japan:

Hiker Catches Volcano’s Eruption On Video, And Is Overtaken By Ash

434 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:22:35am

re: #431 wrenchwench

I knew this guy was a good writer. I didn’t know he was such a good photographer too.

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Wow, that’s an amazing shot—he caught everything just right.

435 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 10:24:41am

re: #367 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Help! I’m being oppressed!”
- Conservative Battle Cry

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Nom nom nom…

436 Dark_Falcon  Sep 27, 2014 10:26:15am

re: #427 Aye Pod

Getting exasperated with people on facebook who are easily duped into supporting fascists.

anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk

People click without looking into the background of those they’re giving support to. Most will bail out when it is made clear to them they’re supporting fascists, but some will find fascism to their liking. Thus are the ranks of fascism increased.

437 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:27:09am

re: #434 CuriousLurker

Wow, that’s an amazing shot—he caught everything just right.

The photographer and the bird both did!

438 Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2014 10:29:32am

re: #425 CuriousLurker

Probably just an artifact from a previous recording. Security recordings are recorded over each other, so an image from a previous recording may have bled through.

But I’m not a techie, so that’s just me speculating.

439 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:30:15am

re: #436 Dark_Falcon

People click without looking into the background of those they’re giving support to. Most will bail out when it is made clear to them they’re supporting fascists, but some will find fascism to their liking. Thus are the ranks of fascism increased.

I’m still getting crickets from you, so I’ll hold my tongue fingertips on this one.

440 CuriousLurker  Sep 27, 2014 10:35:57am

re: #437 wrenchwench

The photographer and the bird both did!

True that! ;-)

Seriously though, now that I’ve been learning about & practicing photography with a “real” camera using manual settings I can appreciate how much skill (and some luck) go in to capturing a shot like that.

The exposure is perfect and the focus is amazing—the bird’s eye/head is razor sharp as are the water drops closer to the camera, yet the bird’s right wing (and the very tip of the left one) as well as some of the other water drops are blurred, very effectively conveying the movement of that fraction of a second in time. I can’t help but wonder what settings he used…

441 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:40:38am

re: #440 CuriousLurker

I can’t help but wonder what settings he used…

Tweet him! I’ll bet he’ll share!

442 wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2014 10:44:55am

re: #440 CuriousLurker

True that! ;-)

Seriously though, now that I’ve been learning about & practicing photography with a “real” camera using manual settings I can appreciate how much skill (and some luck) go in to capturing a shot like that.

The exposure is perfect and the focus is amazing—the bird’s eye/head is razor sharp as are the water drops closer to the camera, yet the bird’s right wing (and the very tip of the left one) as well as some of the other water drops are blurred, very effectively conveying the movement of that fraction of a second in time. I can’t help but wonder what settings he used…

Wait! He didn’t take the photo.

443 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:13:07am

re: #436 Dark_Falcon

People click without looking into the background of those they’re giving support to. Most will bail out when it is made clear to them they’re supporting fascists, but some will find fascism to their liking. Thus are the ranks of fascism increased.

HAHAHAHAHA. Oh, the irony.

444 sagehen  Sep 27, 2014 11:25:15am

re: #418 FemNaziBitch

I think the Quiverfull movement is going to backfire. I know many adults from large families and the last thing they want is children.

If you’ve got enough neices and nephews, no need to have your own sprogs. You get 80% of the joys of parenthood, with 0% of the headaches.

445 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2014 11:28:23am

re: #418 FemNaziBitch

I think the Quiverfull movement is going to backfire. I know many adults from large families and the last thing they want is children.

My family is a good example of that. I’m one of 6 kids. Those 6 kids have produced a grand total of 9 of their own kids.


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