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1 psddluva4evah  Sep 27, 2014 8:39:01pm

For the sake of argument, let’s say, that from a legal standpoint, I get that yes the grand jury can take a long time, but aren’t different arrangements allowed in high profile cases like this one?

Cause, all I’m saying, allowing this to simmer while Wilson has still not been arrested and is still on paid leave and appears to have dropped off the face of the earth, is NOT helping Ferguson PD, the people and citizens of St Louis are anyone else for that matter. The cameras are gone and the national media are only interested in the story as it relates to Obama.

So cameras gone, national media presence and coverage low and this simmering untrust, outright hatred is NOT sustainable

2 Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2014 8:39:39pm
3 Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2014 8:41:20pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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In other words, we’re looking at another round of mass arrests.

4 Amory Blaine  Sep 27, 2014 8:43:50pm

What’s going on at the local level to reform oversight? I would think some recalls are slam dunk.

5 psddluva4evah  Sep 27, 2014 8:43:59pm
6 teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2014 8:44:21pm

Maybe include a NSFW language warning?

7 Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2014 8:45:01pm

re: #5 psddluva4evah

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As if that’s stopped cops from gassing and arresting them before.

8 Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2014 8:45:14pm
9 teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2014 8:48:33pm

Looks like cops are locking down a big swath of north St. Louis County, nobody in or out and those in are extremely limited in their movement.

10 psddluva4evah  Sep 27, 2014 8:48:45pm

I can understand why the protestors don’t want to leave. The mistrust of the police is well-earned and thanks to all the lies, Capt Ron Johnson has NO capital at all.

Again, I understand why the protestors don’t trust anything the PD are saying.

11 Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2014 8:50:50pm

My Twitter stalkers are getting very worked up.

12 teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2014 8:57:38pm
13 teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2014 9:01:53pm

Looks like the live feed just ended.

14 klys  Sep 27, 2014 9:02:04pm

Dear Bobby Jindal:

This is why we have volcano monitoring.

The eruption at the 3,067m (10,120ft) peak, situated between Nagano and Gifu prefectures, trapped hundreds of climbers who were forced to seek shelter in lodges near the summit.

Some 230 have managed to descend - some 40 have yet to be rescued.

There’s going to be a lot of questions why, if there was increased seismic activity at the volcano (and I have read elsewhere that there was), the alert level was not raised.

15 Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2014 9:02:48pm
16 Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2014 9:04:54pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Looks like the live feed just ended.

He said he’ll be back online soon.

17 Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2014 9:06:36pm

The live stream is back on.

18 psddluva4evah  Sep 27, 2014 9:10:26pm
19 Jenner7  Sep 27, 2014 9:24:04pm
20 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 9:38:04pm

re: #1 psddluva4evah

For the sake of argument, let’s say, that from a legal standpoint, I get that yes the grand jury can take a long time, but aren’t different arrangements allowed in high profile cases like this one?

You should also take into account that this Grand Jury already spent four months of giving up each Wednesday to hear cases. They were supposed to be released from duty last month. Instead they are trapped for who knows how much longer hearing this case.

Originally the prosecutor said middle of October as the outside, now he says possibly mid-November.

The grand jury investigating the shooting of Michael Brown by Ferguson police will likely finish its work by late October or early November. That’s significantly sooner than some reports indicated.

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCullough says some people read too much into what was essentially a housekeeping matter, when prosecutors extended the grand jury’s term into January.

“Nobody anticipates it’s going to go anywhere near January or even December,” McCullough said. “But just to make sure everything can be covered, because if we don’t do it now it can’t be done until time runs out.”
fox2now.com

21 Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2014 9:44:54pm

re: #20 ausador

You should also take into account that this Grand Jury already spent four months of giving up each Wednesday to hear cases. They were supposed to be released from duty last month. Instead they are trapped for who knows how much longer hearing this case.

Originally the prosecutor said middle of October as the outside, now he says possibly mid-November.

In other words, this isn’t dying as quickly as he’d hoped, so he’s dragging it out longer.

22 Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2014 9:50:00pm

From earlier story in WaPo

23 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 9:52:30pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

In other words, this isn’t dying as quickly as he’d hoped, so he’s dragging it out longer.

Yeah he is, with a Grand jury that has already given up another (fifth) month of its time beyond the original term. I imagine that they aren’t very happy about the situation either.

The decision was made to use the existing Grand Jury to hear this exclusively so that the one for the new term could start hearing all the other cases. They really should have been dismissed and two new Grand Juries selected. But since they are appointed by a Judge there probably would have been questions raised about possible favoritism during that process. :(

No win situation…

24 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 9:57:06pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

From earlier story in WaPo

Hard to believe in 2011 isn’t it? No cameras watching the perimeter fence/street and no shot finder mics within a mile. The agent who KNEW that shots had struck the building not feeling able to speak up against superiors mistaken dismissal of the gunshot sounds.

Sounds like the management/culture is broken there. :(

25 Gus  Sep 27, 2014 10:01:27pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

My Twitter stalkers are getting very worked up.

Yeah, I noticed.

26 sagehen  Sep 27, 2014 10:15:30pm

re: #24 ausador

Hard to believe in 2011 isn’t it? No cameras watching the perimeter fence/street and no shot finder mics within a mile. The agent who KNEW that shots had struck the building not feeling able to speak up against superiors mistaken dismissal of the gunshot sounds.

Sounds like the management/culture is broken there. :(

We already knew they had problems; getting drunk with hookers on a foreign trip was our first clue.

27 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 27, 2014 10:18:57pm

Punchline: “A good start.”

28 S'latch  Sep 27, 2014 10:25:18pm

It is horrible news. I hope this officer is okay. NYT is reporting that the officer was shot in the arm and is expected to recover.

29 Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2014 10:25:50pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

My Twitter stalkers are getting very worked up.

Let me guess. They think Mike Brown is somehow responsible for a shooting that occurred after his death.

30 The War TARDIS  Sep 27, 2014 10:26:15pm

Well, more proof Doctor Who has broken into the mainstream in the US.

FOX is using David Tennant’s role as the Doctor to promote an American Adaption to Broadchurch, Gracepoint.

31 sagehen  Sep 27, 2014 10:31:18pm

re: #30 The War TARDIS

Well, more proof Doctor Who has broken into the mainstream in the US.

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FOX is using David Tennant’s role as the Doctor to promote an American Adaption to Broadchurch, Gracepoint.

Are they changing the story at all? It hardly seems worth watching if they’re going to have the same case, the same suspects, the same solution… Liking both the leads isn’t reason enough to watch a remake of something I saw just last year.

32 klys  Sep 27, 2014 10:35:36pm

Reports of fatalities coming in through the Japanese media on the Mt. Ontake eruption. All in Japanese so I have nothing to link (going on husband’s translations) but apparently they may have found more than 30 dead up near the summit.

33 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 10:42:16pm

For those wondering about what really happened when the Ferguson Police Chief tried walking with the protestors…yeah, the cops absolutely did start it.

Just some decent dialogue back and forth between the chief and the crowd until about the 9:57 mark. Then he tried to march and his officers behind him started manhandling the crowd, went downhill very fast.

34 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 10:45:39pm

re: #32 klys

Reports of fatalities coming in through the Japanese media on the Mt. Ontake eruption. All in Japanese so I have nothing to link (going on husband’s translations) but apparently they may have found more than 30 dead up near the summit.

Damn. An awful lot of volcanologists and other people (41 in total) were killed by pyroclastic flows on Mt Unzen in 1991.

Stratovolcano eruptions are nothing to fuck with. They are nothing at all like the relatively tame low volatile gas and low viscosity eruptions in Hawaii. A pyroclastic flow is nature’s version of a hydrogen bomb. You do NOT want to be near one.

35 darthstar  Sep 27, 2014 10:49:28pm

re: #32 klys

re: #34 Aunty Entity Dragon

Mt. St. Helens is waking up too…and there’s Iceland, and Papua New Guinea…

Sometimes I hate that all the volcanoes share the same circulatory system…it’s almost like the planet is saying, “Fuck it, I can’t wait for an asteroid to wipe these assholes out…”

36 klys  Sep 27, 2014 10:49:45pm

re: #34 Aunty Entity Dragon

Damn. An awful lot of volcanologists and other people (41 in total) were killed by pyroclastic flows on Mt Unzen in 1991.

Stratovolcano eruptions are nothing to fuck with. They are nothing at all like the relatively tame low volatile gas and low viscosity eruptions in Hawaii. A pyroclastic flow is nature’s version of a hydrogen bomb. You do NOT want to be near one.

I’m not convinced that what happened here was a pyroclastic flow; if it were, there are an awful lot of really amazingly lucky hikers. The husband’s rough translations seem to indicate that they were found buried in ash, in one location - possibly in one of the mountain lodges, although that is very much speculation on my part.

The Mt. Unzen tragedy was notable because one of the volcanologists who died - Harry Glicken - had swapped shifts with David Johnston on monitoring Mt. St. Helens.

37 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 10:52:23pm

re: #36 klys

I’m not convinced that what happened here was a pyroclastic flow; if it were, there are an awful lot of really amazingly lucky hikers. The husband’s rough translations seem to indicate that they were found buried in ash, in one location - possibly in one of the mountain lodges, although that is very much speculation on my part.

The Mt. Unzen tragedy was notable because one of the volcanologists who died - Harry Glicken - had swapped shifts with David Johnston on monitoring Mt. St. Helens.

Harry Glicken never got over that. Word in the geology community was that he was brilliant but also really, really messed up and a bit unstable.

The Krafts from France died in that one as well.

38 klys  Sep 27, 2014 10:53:45pm

re: #32 klys

The joys of translation. Apparently some other sources are now making it sound like possibly critical condition and not death. His dictionary claims the word they are using to describe the hikers’ condition is “cardiac arrest.”

Fingers crossed for a more hopeful outcome.

39 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 10:59:53pm

re: #35 darthstar

Mt. St. Helens is waking up too…and there’s Iceland, and Papua New Guinea…

Sometimes I hate that all the volcanoes share the same circulatory system…it’s almost like the planet is saying, “Fuck it, I can’t wait for an asteroid to wipe these assholes out…”

Well, not really. I know what you are getting at (IE they all derive energy and material from the earth) but how they actually operate can be radically different from one volcano to another. Hawaiian volcanoes operate off of a stationary “hot spot” and the basaltic magma has a chemical composition which reflects the low silica nature of the melt material (originally from deep mantle ultramafic peridotite)

In Iceland, you get something really weird…both hot spot deep melt composition magmas and also relatively shallow spreading center magmas from a different provenance. You get two different magma compositions that have nothing to really do with one another since the magmas originate in very different melt facies.

I really wanted to take geochemistry. Never was able to do so.

40 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:01:06pm

Video of eruption from multiple vantages…

Youtube Video

Video from some hikers who were caught by the ash cloud…

Youtube Video

That’s the word from Japan’s NHK News, which says the eruption seriously injured more than 30 people. The agency also says more than 10 people who were rescued remain unconscious.

One hiker was killed, Reuters reports.

npr.org

41 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:04:32pm

re: #39 Aunty Entity Dragon

Well, not really. I know what you are getting at (IE they all derive energy and material from the earth) but how they actually operate can be radically different from one volcano to another. Hawaiian volcanoes operate off of a stationary “hot spot” and the basltic magma has a chemical composition which reflects the low silca nature of the melt material (originally from deep mantle ultramafic peridotite)

In Iceland, you get something really weird…both hot spot deep melt composition magmas and also relatively shallow spreading center magmas from a different provenance. You get two different magma compositions that have nothing to really do with one another since the magmas originate in very different melt facies.

I really wanted to take geochemistry. Never was able to do so.

My Ph.D. thesis was all about how composition and temperature affects structure in silicate melts.

I’m having bad flashbacks. Clearly more gin required.

42 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:10:50pm

Was just reading the last AP update from an hour ago that said 32-34 people remained missing when this popped up…

43 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:11:34pm

re: #42 ausador

Yeah, he checked another dictionary (in case the first one was off).

checked another dictionary. The definition in Japanese is very definitely “a condition where the heart and breathing stop”

44 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 11:11:38pm

re: #41 klys

My Ph.D. thesis was all about how composition and temperature affects structure in silicate melts.

I’m having bad flashbacks. Clearly more gin required.

Ah, yes. 2 component and 3 component phase diagrams…

45 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:14:10pm

re: #44 Aunty Entity Dragon

Ah, yes. 2 component and 3 component phase diagrams…

Well, if I was dealing with phases I wasn’t doing my job well. >.>

46 lostlakehiker  Sep 27, 2014 11:16:56pm

re: #35 darthstar

re: #35 darthstar

Mt. St. Helens is waking up too…and there’s Iceland, and Papua New Guinea…

Sometimes I hate that all the volcanoes share the same circulatory system…it’s almost like the planet is saying, “Fuck it, I can’t wait for an asteroid to wipe these assholes out…”

There’s no link between Iceland and New Guinea volcanos. They all share that deep reserve of uranium-fueled heat, but the network of fault lines and fissures in the crust that produces the “ring of fire” etc. isn’t all tied together in such a way that any eruption anywhere makes other eruptions everywhere else more likely. And Mt. St. Helens isn’t in any sort of pipelike communication with Iceland or Papua New Guinea.

But human volcanoes is another story. To some extent, chaos anywhere manages to have an impact on everywhere else. Because unlike the volcanoes of nature, we really are in communication.

47 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 11:19:50pm

re: #45 klys

Well, if I was dealing with phases I wasn’t doing my job well. >.>

You didn’t mess with these things?

I sure had my fill of them in optical mineralogy and igneous/metamorphic petrology…

That was a year of non stop fun over a microscope.

//

I did get a department award and scholarship for my work that year…but I will never forget the headaches i would get looking through polarized light instuments for hours on end.

48 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:21:25pm

re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon

Oh, I’ve seen them. Used them. Can even vaguely read them.

But when you’re dealing with melt, crystal structure is of less interest, and ideally you want no crystals at all. They get in the way of analyzing melt structure, which is already a special clusterfuck of its own.

49 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 11:23:29pm

re: #48 klys

Oh, I’ve seen them. Used them. Can even vaguely read them.

But when you’re dealing with melt, crystal structure is of less interest, and ideally you want no crystals at all. They get in the way of analyzing melt structure, which is already a special clusterfuck of its own.

OK, I get ya.

On that note…I’m really tired. Sleep……..

50 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:26:35pm

Ok? Dead, no unconscious, no dead, no unconscious but believed dead…

51 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 27, 2014 11:27:07pm

re: #48 klys

Oh, I’ve seen them. Used them. Can even vaguely read them.

But when you’re dealing with melt, crystal structure is of less interest, and ideally you want no crystals at all. They get in the way of analyzing melt structure, which is already a special clusterfuck of its own.

But also…you end up with migmatites and weird depleted dunnites after the melt leaves the system. You didn’t have fun with those??!

52 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:27:49pm

re: #50 ausador

Ok? Dead, no unconscious, no dead, no unconscious but believed dead…

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Well, this paragraph from the article is consistent with the husband’s translation above:

The victims have been described as not breathing and their hearts have stopped, which is the customary way for Japanese authorities to describe a body until police doctors can examine it.

53 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:28:36pm

re: #51 Aunty Entity Dragon

But also…you end up with migmatites and weird depleted dunnites after the melt leaves the system. You didn’t have fun with those??!

Hahahahaha, no. Purely synthetic samples, all made in lab, because composition is really important, as it turns out.

I am not a field geologist at all.

54 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:38:06pm

Stupid people in the replies already trying to blame illegal immigrants, even though it was a nursing assistant at the hospital…

55 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sep 27, 2014 11:38:21pm

re: #52 klys

Oh geez… When I saw the videos I thought it was really great luck that nobody was killed.

The 2nd video of the ash blanketing the hikers was frightening. If I had been there, out for a hike, and I saw that cloud coming, I would certainly have thought “pyroclastic flow”, and that I was about to die.

56 klys  Sep 27, 2014 11:47:43pm

re: #55 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh geez… When I saw the videos I thought it was really great luck that nobody was killed.

The 2nd video of the ash blanketing the hikers was frightening. If I had been there, out for a hike, and I saw that cloud coming, I would certainly have thought “pyroclastic flow”, and that I was about to die.

I think I’d prefer to go in a pyroclastic flow than suffocating under the ash.

I know I’ve seen this described elsewhere on the net as a pyroclastic flow but the sheer number of hikers on the volcano who survived - even after being engulfed - seriously argues against that to me. Certainly no indications of superheated gas, at least, which goes against the standard definition of a pyroclastic flow.

Granted, I am not a volcanologist, so. This is my vaguely informed opinion and nothing more.

57 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:51:11pm

Updated story on Ferguson, 2 possible burglary suspects, ran from officer when approached, one fired at officer and hit him in the arm. Officer returned fire but it’s unknown if either suspect was hit, both are still at large.

This was not involved with the protests and not close to the protestors…

58 ausador  Sep 27, 2014 11:59:57pm

re: #56 klys

I think I’d prefer to go in a pyroclastic flow than suffocating under the ash.

I know I’ve seen this described elsewhere on the net as a pyroclastic flow but the sheer number of hikers on the volcano who survived - even after being engulfed - seriously argues against that to me. Certainly no indications of superheated gas, at least, which goes against the standard definition of a pyroclastic flow.

Granted, I am not a volcanologist, so. This is my vaguely informed opinion and nothing more.

It was probably the carbon dioxide that smothered them, volcanic gases always contains carbon dioxide, nitrogen, sulfur dioxide, and small amounts of some other gases. Some volcanoes put out very high amounts of sulfur dioxide and their gases are extremely toxic, but I don’t think Mount Ontake is one of those.

59 Kragar  Sep 28, 2014 12:10:53am

Well, the good news is that the volcano was no where near my wife’s family in Japan.

60 ausador  Sep 28, 2014 12:24:29am

Not sure how Matt thinks this will be a worry in the United States as he seems to be implying. I don’t believe we have many mansions, with or without pools, hiding out undeclared around here…

61 ausador  Sep 28, 2014 1:19:49am

Obama care is working, hospitals to save about $5.7 billion this year in uncompensated care costs, a 16% drop in those costs. Which means that those of us with coverage wont have to pay as much to subsidize hospitals for those that don’t have any. Thanks Obama!

Now if only we can vote Rick Scott out so that Florida can possibly expand medicaid too, we are one of the largest hold out states. :(

62 Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2014 3:05:01am

Meanwhile, in Oregon politics, GOP Senatorial candidate Dr. Monica Wehby’s campaign seems to be in meltdown.

Officials from KGW TV spent weeks attempting to arrange a debate — jointly sponsored with The Oregonian — between Wehby and Merkley. The senator agreed in mid-August to participate but the station cancelled the debate after Wehby missed a noon Friday deadline for agreeing to participate. At this point, the two have agreed on one debate, an Oct. 14 appearance on KOBI TV in Medford.

Willamette Week has had a long practice of inviting candidates in a race to jointly appear before its editorial board for a videotaped question-and-answer session that it posts on its website.

Wehby’s campaign was rocked last week by allegations that she had used plagiarized material in health care and economic policy papers she had posted on her website, and she may have wanted to avoid being subjected to a fresh round of headlines on that subject.

oregonlive.com

Looks like that’s one Senate seat the GOP likely won’t be picking up this November.

63 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2014 4:27:50am

re: #60 ausador

Not sure how Matt thinks this will be a worry in the United States as he seems to be implying. I don’t believe we have many mansions, with or without pools, hiding out undeclared around here…

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We do have a lot of wealth in a lot of forms hiding out and the thought of the government using modern technology to catch criminals is…frankly…SHOCKING!!!

64 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 28, 2014 6:06:57am
65 Cheechako  Sep 28, 2014 6:09:05am

Alaska Dispatch News
September 27, 2014

If you’ve ever wondered what it might look like when U.S. troops use the cover of darkness to insert troops and equipment into a war zone, wonder no more.

The 517th Airlift Squadron’s C-17 Globemaster III planes lit up the night sky near Anchorage Friday, Sept. 26 as they conducted nighttime drop exercises at the Malemute Drop Zone, just west of Lower Fire Lake.

On Saturday, Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson officials released footage of the exercises showing the lumbering cargo planes shooting counter-measure flares into the darkness as they drop troops and equipment, and the result is an eye-catching minute and a half of video, capturing flares bursting like fireworks in the night sky, illuminating the C-17s as they approach the drop zone.

Link

66 lawhawk  Sep 28, 2014 6:11:46am

As dangerous as the situation was in Ferguson prior to last night, it just got a whole lot moreso as a result of an officer being shot. There’s already no trust between the community and police, and the police, which have already shown that they don’t care about the community are going to be even more ready to use force than they’ve already shown.

There’s no trust of the FPD or the county police. None.

The community has no reason to trust either one - not after the shooting of Brown, let alone the handling of the protests, which included excessive force to disrupt peaceful protests, attacking journalists, and pointing loaded weapons and sniper rifles at peaceful protesters who were exercising their constitutional rights to protest injustices inflicted on the community by the police.

And in the days and weeks that followed the shooting of Brown, all we’ve seen is that the injustices faced by the black community in Ferguson are compounded by a stacked deck at all levels that perpetuate the injustice - and Ferguson is hardly alone in the greater St. Louis area (or the nation for that matter) where local police, prosecutors, and the courts do not provide relief for the black community because officer involved shootings are largely not prosecuted, blacks face a disproportionate number of stops per capita as compared to contraband find rates/arrest rates per capita. It’s harassment of the local community to fund the courts and municipal governments that have found that an easy way to gain revenues - but it institutionalizes the racism and further undermines the social compact.

So, all that is a backdrop to a police that now appears to the black community to be more interested in justice in finding someone who shot a cop than investigating and prosecuting a cop who shot an unarmed black man that by all eyewitness and video accounts was unjustified. That is not lost on the black community either.

67 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 6:25:40am
68 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 6:32:34am

Momma Bear and Baby Bear lived in a hole in the woods. Momma Bear had driven Poppa Bear off, because he was a threat to the cub. A young blonde hiker found the empty den—no oatmeal, no chairs, no beds. She got the hell out of there.

Why ruin a good fairy tale?

69 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 28, 2014 6:51:29am
70 b.d.  Sep 28, 2014 6:52:26am

Ahhhh memories:

On May 20, he [Snowden] boarded a flight to Hong Kong, where he has remained ever since. He chose the city because “they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent”,

theguardian.com

71 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 28, 2014 6:52:39am

Heh

72 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 7:06:19am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

Heh

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Wouldn’t surprise me. “Hey dude, hold my beer and watch this!”

73 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 7:32:33am

My heart goes out to the family of this police officer.

74 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 7:41:26am

re: #73 FemNaziBitch

My heart goes out to the family of this police officer.

Fortunately he was shot in the arm so it’s not life threatening

HOWEVER,,, the Penn cop killer is still on the loose, presumably armed and obviously dangerous. And unlike the Ferguson shooting, it appears the Penn killer planned this for awhile

cnn.com

76 Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2014 7:53:21am
78 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:02:48am

Another year, another Ryder Cup loss

(Europe only needs one more point out of 5 matches still going on, and they’re leading in two of those)

rydercup.com

79 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 8:03:57am

re: #74 sattv4u2

Fortunately he was shot in the arm so it’s not life threatening

HOWEVER,,, the Penn cop killer is still on the loose, presumably armed and obviously dangerous. And unlike the Ferguson shooting, it appears the Penn killer planned this for awhile

cnn.com

Still, hearing that your family member has been shot has to be a daily fear of policemen’s families.

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 8:04:09am

re: #78 sattv4u2

Another year, another Ryder Cup loss

(Europe only needs one more point out of 5 matches still going on, and they’re leading in two of those)

rydercup.com

The US government obviously needs to subsidize golf more in order to make up this deficiency.
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81 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 8:05:30am

re: #78 sattv4u2

Another year, another Ryder Cup loss

(Europe only needs one more point out of 5 matches still going on, and they’re leading in two of those)

rydercup.com

THANKS OBAMA.

82 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:06:34am

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

The US government obviously needs to subsidize golf more in order to make up this deficiency.
/

I actually blame Jack Nicklaus!!
The Ryder Cup USED to be the USA vs England/ Ireland
Nicklaus proposed, lobbied for and got the rest of Europe included on the Eng/Ire side

Since then, the USA hasn’t done well despite many times having more top ranked players than Europe

83 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 8:14:57am
84 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2014 8:15:06am

When one of their own is shot, they go all out. When one of their own shoots murders an unarmed black kid, they can’t be bothered to fill out a report.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 8:16:13am

Seeing some tweets about this.

Hong Kong Police Use Tear Gas On Large Pro-Democracy Protest

Police in riot gear have been deployed to the streets of Hong Kong, where thousands of protesters are calling for free elections. Police used tear gas and pepper spray to try to clear the city’s central business and government district. Organized by student groups, the Occupy Central protests have now been going on for three days.

Sunday night brought the first use of tear gas; video footage from earlier in the day showed protesters using umbrellas to try to deflect pepper spray and water cannons as officers attempted to disperse the crowd. Some protesters also worried that police might also use a “sound cannon” to send painful acoustic waves at them.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 8:18:52am

Not Ferguson, but Hong Kong.

87 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2014 8:22:48am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not Ferguson, but Hong Kong.

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“Not Hong Kong, but Ferguson”.

88 darthstar  Sep 28, 2014 8:23:38am

We are veterans of the United States armed forces, and we are writing to inform you that your remarks about United Arab Emirates Air Force Major Mariam Al Mansouri were unwarranted, offensive, and fundamentally opposed to what the military taught us to stand for.

First, foremost, and most obvious to everyone other than yourselves, your remarks were immensely inappropriate.

It’s a well written takedown of Fox News…I especially like this part:

We issue an apology on your behalf to Major Al Mansouri knowing that anything your producers force you to say will be contrived and insincere.

89 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2014 8:24:55am

I have a feeling I won’t have to pack my bags for this trip. Ever.

90 darthstar  Sep 28, 2014 8:25:29am

Did he bind his hands and feet AFTER he decapitated himself or before?

91 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:25:54am

re: #78 sattv4u2

Another year, another Ryder Cup loss

(Europe only needs one more point out of 5 matches still going on, and they’re leading in two of those)

rydercup.com

hmmm,,, a comeback in the making!?!?

2 of the remaining matches are even
The US is up in 2 others

The bad news, the one match Europe is leading right now,, they are up by 4 with only 4 holes to play, so at BEST the US can only halve that one, meaning Europe only needs 1/2 point out of the other 4 matches

92 darthstar  Sep 28, 2014 8:28:38am

re: #91 sattv4u2

I watched one hole on TV. The drunken “USA! USA!” cheering squad embarrassed me too much to watch another.

93 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 8:29:59am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not Ferguson, but Hong Kong.

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The tactics look almost totalitarian, which they are in this non democratic society. What is our excuse?

94 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 8:31:47am

re: #54 ausador

Stupid people in the replies already trying to blame illegal immigrants, even though it was a nursing assistant at the hospital…

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They want to get their hate fix.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 8:33:08am

re: #87 GlutenFreeJesus

“Not Hong Kong, but Ferguson”.

No. The St. Louis County Police didn’t fire rubber bullets at people who had their hands up like that.

96 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:35:05am

re: #92 darthstar

I watched one hole on TV. The drunken “USA! USA!” cheering squad embarrassed me too much to watch another.

You think THOSE chants are drunken,,, wait till Europe wins! You’ll be able to hear the chants from every Scottish pub if you have your windows open!!!

97 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 8:35:29am

Signaling Post-Snowden Era, New iPhone Locks Out N.S.A.

98 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:35:45am

Donaldson beat Bradley

Tis over!

99 darthstar  Sep 28, 2014 8:36:54am

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

No. The St. Louis County Police didn’t fire rubber bullets at people who had their hands up like that.

You’re right…They fired wooden ones.

100 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 8:39:25am

Bon Jovi Cover (kinda)
Youtube Video

101 darthstar  Sep 28, 2014 8:42:25am

re: #96 sattv4u2

You think THOSE chants are drunken,,, wait till Europe wins! You’ll be able to hear the chants from every Scottish pub if you have your windows open!!!

As long as I don’t have to hear them on the golf course. Maybe golfers should learn the victory dances of NFL players after a tackle…the slow stalky-stomp with a hip thrust…it would add to the game. Or better yet, the soccer knee slide across the green after a putt with the shirt pulled up.

102 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 8:44:20am

re: #101 darthstar

As long as I don’t have to hear them on the golf course. Maybe golfers should learn the victory dances of NFL players after a tackle…the slow stalky-stomp with a hip thrust…it would add to the game. Or better yet, the soccer knee slide across the green after a putt with the shirt pulled up.

Or just add tackling to professional golf.
/

Imagine the pressure of that putt as a few large men in pads come bearing down on you.

103 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 8:44:30am

re: #99 darthstar

You’re right…They fired wooden ones.

I believe there was a report of a preacher trying to get both sides to calm down getting hit by a rubber bullet in the early stages of the unrest.

Here is one report. Can’t say I can vouch for the reporting site, but I remember the picture they have on their site. I see democracynow and other sites reported on it also around Aug. 15-17th timeframe.

104 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 8:44:34am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

Signaling Post-Snowden Era, New iPhone Locks Out N.S.A.

Apple won’t hold to that position long, I predict. The first time they try “turning over gibberish” after a terrorist attack, they’ll get cited for contempt of court or the Department of Justice will threaten indictments of Apple executives for Obstruction of Justice. Either tactic will make Apple truckle under quickly.

105 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:44:58am

re: #101 darthstar

As long as I don’t have to hear them on the golf course. Maybe golfers should learn the victory dances of NFL players after a tackle…the slow stalky-stomp with a hip thrust…it would add to the game. Or better yet, the soccer knee slide across the green after a putt with the shirt pulled up.

The Ryder Cup is actually the one tournament where the fans and players really get into it as opposed to the stodgy quiet “golf claps” prevalent at regular tour events, much like the Davis Cup in tennis

106 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 8:46:02am

re: #99 darthstar

You’re right…They fired wooden ones.

They needed wooden bullets to combat the threat of vampires.

/

107 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 8:50:39am

OH MAN! Leader of the Pack
Youtube Video

so jealous

guy’s website

108 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 8:51:55am

How “Right-To-Work” Kills Jobs:

109 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 8:55:07am

On a positive note, the future may look bright for the USA wrt to the Ryder cup. The junior team won again (making it 4 years in a row)

Congrats to the Juniors!!

rydercup.com

110 jaunte  Sep 28, 2014 8:57:53am

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

Friggin Trojan horse assholes

Because countries like Denmark, with a near 80% union participation rate, are such unlivable hellscapes compared to Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas…

111 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 28, 2014 8:58:13am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seeing some tweets about this.

Hong Kong Police Use Tear Gas On Large Pro-Democracy Protest

One of my former students (mainland Chinese) is a grad student in HK now. Interestingly enough, he’s spinning it in his social media queue as being provoked by the students! He says “don’t believe the Western media. They’re biased. The students are not as peaceful as the media portray them.” I’m hoping another year in HK will mellow out his mainland blindness to injustice.

112 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 9:01:40am

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

How “Right-To-Work” Kills Jobs:

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Well, he also retweeted this:

Problem with that: The COO of Vaughan Foods, Mark Vaughan, actually was armed and it was he who stopped Alton Nolen. But he couldn’t stop Nolen before he killed his first victim. He did shoot Nolen in time to save a second woman’s life. Full story is here.

113 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:03:53am

Page Updated

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 9:04:08am

Glenn Knows Best!

115 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:04:28am

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Well, he also retweeted this:

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Problem with that: The COO of Vaughan Foods, Mark Vaughan, actually was armed and it was he who stopped Alton Nolen. But he couldn’t stop Nolen before he killed his first victim. He did shoot Nolen in time to save a second woman’s life. Full story is here.

I heard about that.

116 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 9:08:08am

re: #113 FemNaziBitch

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Page Updated

Wonder if it smells like wallpaper paste!!!

117 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 9:08:09am

Vaughn is a reserve Sheriff’s deputy.

118 The War TARDIS  Sep 28, 2014 9:12:46am

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Meanwhile, I asked my Imam if he would sue Jim Hoft. He said no, that he would let it go.

119 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:16:26am

PORPORTED to be from Cheech and Chong’s Instangram:

120 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:17:11am

re: #116 sattv4u2

Wonder if it smells like wallpaper paste!!!

Maybe old fashioned wallpaper paster —it was often home-made. People just mixed flour with water.

121 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 9:18:49am

WTF is a ‘truth-snark point?’ LOL

It’s like Ideological Dungeons and Dragons.

122 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 9:21:21am

Here’s the complete straw poll tally from the Value Voters.

123 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 9:22:28am

Black dude goes berserker and cuts off a woman’s head, stabs another… recently ‘converted’ to Islam, it’s because Islam.

White dude kills 20 something people in a shooting spree, it’s because he’s insane.

That reasoning is in itself insane.

124 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 9:23:41am

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Somebody voted for Hillary… LOL.

125 Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 28, 2014 9:23:49am

Fox host tells Ben Carson: You as president is like a lawmaker doing brain surgery

I stand with Fox. This time.

126 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 9:23:58am

Wonder what YEC believers would say if it was suggested we all came from algae?

127 Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 28, 2014 9:26:09am

re: #124 Ryan King

Somebody voted for Hillary… LOL.

Who is this “Write in Candidate?”

128 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 9:26:27am

re: #117 Ryan King

Vaughn is a reserve Sheriff’s deputy.

True, which probably helped due to training on how to deal with workplace attackers. Because that’s what Alton Nolen was, make no mistake: He wasn’t a jihadi, he was someone who decided to kill his ex-co-workers after being fired. That still makes him a shithead, though, and Nolen should be put to death for his crimes.

129 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 9:29:14am

re: #124 Ryan King

Somebody voted for Hillary… LOL.

Joe Biden got one!

130 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:29:22am


131 urbanmeemaw  Sep 28, 2014 9:33:18am

re: #70 b.d.

Ahhhh memories:

theguardian.com

Yes, and here is a recent example of that committment:

time.com

132 Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2014 9:36:07am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

True, which probably helped due to training on how to deal with workplace attackers. Because that’s what Alton Nolen was, make no mistake: He wasn’t a jihadi, he was someone who decided to kill his ex-co-workers after being fired. That still makes him a shithead, though, and Nolen should be put to death for his crimes.

Post edited.

133 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 9:39:54am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Joe Biden got one!

You get .75 Truth-Snarks.

134 b.d.  Sep 28, 2014 9:41:32am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn Knows Best!

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Holy smokes what an odious screed that was and it is total bulls*it. The easiest thing the US Govt. could have done is not mention a Khorasan group at all and blame everything on ISIS. What is the upside of bringing up Khorasan for the US Govt. besides it just trying to tell the American people what they are doing? If anything it makes this whole thing more complicated which doesn’t translate well amongst the citizenry.

I read Glenn’s stupid rant and it really makes no sense, it seems that he just wanted to unload on the mainstream media reporters to me.

135 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:41:41am

Obama Says Mistrust of Police Corrosive to America

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 9:42:07am

Good afternoon from the East Coast.

Mmm, Carrotcake!

137 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:43:27am

re: #116 sattv4u2

Wonder if it smells like wallpaper paste!!!

Wait, do you like that aroma?

138 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 9:46:09am

BTW, no statement is intended by the picture of the church also including a “Do Not Enter” sign that seems to align with the entrance of the church itself. Just a chance result of how the shot was lined up.

139 b.d.  Sep 28, 2014 9:49:48am

re: #138 Feline Fearless Leader

BTW, no statement is intended by the picture of the church also including a “Do Not Enter” sign that seems to align with the entrance of the church itself. Just a chance result of how the shot was lined up.

I was noticing that there are an awful lot of signs telling you what you cannot do in that beautiful picture. What a beautiful building.

140 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:50:06am

re: #138 Feline Fearless Leader

BTW, no statement is intended by the picture of the church also including a “Do Not Enter” sign that seems to align with the entrance of the church itself. Just a chance result of how the shot was lined up.

A church in my part of the world had on their marquee this summer: Perfect People Not Welcome.

I loved it!

141 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 9:50:33am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Wait, do you like that aroma?

No, but slightly repressed memories of the school bullies/ paste/ me/ locker room ,,,,,,,

//

142 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:51:17am

re: #141 sattv4u2

No, but slightly repressed memories of the school bullies/ paste/ me/ locker room ,,,,,,,

//

TMI!!

143 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 9:51:50am

re: #139 b.d.

I was noticing that there are an awful lot of signs telling you what you cannot do in that beautiful picture. What a beautiful building.

Those signs telling you what you cannot do
Government, not religious!!

:P

144 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:53:29am

re: #130 FemNaziBitch

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I forgot to include: I am donating all proceeds from sales from this store to the DV/SA agency for which I volunteer from now until Election Day.

The purpose is really outreach and awareness, I don’t expect much in sales. Please share on social media if you like the message.

145 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:54:50am

re: #143 sattv4u2

Those signs telling you what you cannot do
Government, not religious!!

:P

Gubernet says Hobby Lobby et al. can tell you what to do based on religious beliefs!!!

*sigh*

Is there an emoticon for “sigh”?

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 9:54:58am

re: #127 Iwouldprefernotto

Who is this “Write in Candidate?”

Every pirate votes for hisself.

147 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:55:26am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

Every pirate votes for hisself.

rrrrrrrrr!

148 sattv4u2  Sep 28, 2014 9:56:17am

And on that note,,,,,, heading to the links!

149 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 9:57:38am

more sighs

150 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 9:58:43am

re: #139 b.d.

I was noticing that there are an awful lot of signs telling you what you cannot do in that beautiful picture. What a beautiful building.

That church is at the corner of a somewhat convoluted intersection near the Art Museum in Philadelphia. Standard city street grid meeting up with a road running diagonal to the grid. Not a main road, so it’s lots of stop signs. Plus Philadelphia streets in that area do lots of alternating one-way streets.

Map of approximate angle of church photo

151 b.d.  Sep 28, 2014 10:03:11am

NOBODY WOULD HAVE LET OBAMA GET AWAY WITH BOMBING SYRIA IF HE WAS ONLY GOING TO BOMB ISIS, THAT’S WHY HE INVENTED THE KHORASAN GROUP

That is what Glenn Greenwald is trying to peddle. Really.

152 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 10:03:35am

Bears - Packers in retro jerseys. Though it’s hard to tell with Green Bay.

153 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 10:03:57am

bbl

154 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 10:08:55am

Just heard the wildest cat story. My friend’s Mom just did a big house move. The most obvious effect on their inside cat is he is stressed to get outside to the wildlife. There’s a fox out there apparently.

Well last night he scratched her, she had to go to the emergency room & get 12 stitches.

omg.

155 b.d.  Sep 28, 2014 10:16:27am
Snowden - now living in Russia where he was granted temporary asylum last August - had made a calculated decision to come to Hong Kong and it had paid off.

“It showed that [Snowden] had chosen this place that could actually stand up to the United States government, but at the same time he wanted a place that wouldn’t be so security-laden and that it would have political values that he felt comfortable with.

“There’s this history of dissent and protest in Hong Kong and the first day we were [in Hong Kong] there was this massive street protest against the Tiananmen abuses by the central Chinese government,” he [Greenwald] said, referring to the June 4 candlelight vigil.

scmp.com

156 urbanmeemaw  Sep 28, 2014 10:23:38am

re: #81 Ryan King

THANKS OBAMA.

Hey, at least the Ryder Cup kept Chuckles and His Amazing Technicolor Stenographic Service off the air this morning.

157 urbanmeemaw  Sep 28, 2014 10:25:47am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seeing some tweets about this.

Hong Kong Police Use Tear Gas On Large Pro-Democracy Protest

Shhhhh. Don’t tell Snowald.

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 10:42:39am

re: #157 urbanmeemaw

Shhhhh. Don’t tell Snowald.

indeed…


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