National Review’s Kevin D. Williamson: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged, and So Should Doctors

This is “pro-life?”
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National Review columnist Kevin D. Williamson

So this morning on Twitter, this happened; National Review writer Kevin D. Williamson made the real “pro-life” agenda very, very clear, expressing his opinion that women who have abortions should be put to death — by hanging. And not just the women; he says the doctor who performs the abortion, the nurses who assist, and the hospital staff who enable it should also be executed.

This was not satire, or a “joke.” He really believes this, as you’ll see if you read the following Twitter collection from the bottom up.

UPDATE at 9/28/14 12:13:31 pm by Charles Johnson

Quite a few people have now jumped into this; here’s a search page for the discussion still raging.

UPDATE at 9/28/14 12:36:47 pm by Charles Johnson

A few more exchanges:

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166 comments
1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2014 11:57:41am

DO NOT take any of the gains made in the past fifty years in women’s, gay and minority rights for granted: there are people out there working to actively roll them back

2 WhatEVs  Sep 28, 2014 12:01:04pm

That they say this. In public. “Out loud” - should terrify all women and any men who love them.

American religious conservatives are different from radicals in other religions how, exactly?

3 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 12:01:17pm
4 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 12:01:35pm

See Charles, you’re the troll because you’re getting him to clarify his position without rhetorical sleight.

Talk about an elementary school gambit.

5 De Kolta Chair  Sep 28, 2014 12:03:09pm

Licence To Chill

6 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 12:04:48pm

I assume the doctors should be executed in their own churches? As that seems to be tradition with the terrori religious protectors.

7 Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2014 12:12:03pm

Kevin Williamson’s Heart Of Darkness

We usually avoid the work of Kevin D. Williamson at National Review, partly because every piece is overwritten tripe with a point so far outside of reality we need a wormhole to reach it, and partly because we are creeped out by Williamson, who looks like the dandified love child of Ted Bundy and a deformed penis. He is also probably the most consistent race-baiter at NR since old John Derbyshire took his white sheets to VDARE, and our blood pressure does not need more nudging towards the red line.

Sadly, we could not avoid Williamson’s latest attempt to prop up the vaunted, race-baiting legacy of NR founder William F. Buckley (currently spending eternity stuck in an African-American Studies class at Berkeley taught by Amiri Baraka). Mostly because Williamson isn’t sending out dog whistles here. He’s blasting the emergency klaxon on the firehouse across the town square.

8 dholmes32  Sep 28, 2014 12:12:31pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

DO NOT take any of the gains made in the past fifty years in women’s, gay and minority rights for granted: there are people out there working to actively roll them back

As a woman, there are times I feel my rights have been given to me on suffrance and they can be ripped away. This is one of those times.

9 The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 28, 2014 12:15:07pm

How far does it go—I refer women having ectopic pregnancies that will kill them if they are allowed to grow to the gynecologists who perform the abortions will full knowledge of what they intend to do. Does that make me an accessory to first degree murder?

10 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:15:20pm

He doesn’t represent all Republicans!!!

Except for the part where the Republican party has opposition to abortion for any reason as one of their primary platform planks. Although abhorrent to rational people, his stance is a somewhat logical outgrowth of that position.

I deserve the right to make decisions about my own body, just like every forced-pregnancy male takes for granted. Voting Republican is saying that I don’t deserve that - or equal pay, or that our gay and lesbian friends don’t deserve the right to get married, or that minorities don’t deserve equal treatment before the law and in our society.

But if you try to point this out to people, they get uncomfortable, because that’s not what it really means.

Bullshit. I’m not blind. I can watch the actions of Republican lawmakers. But apparently they are, but it’s not all Republicans! I don’t feel that way!

No, but you don’t care enough to vote any differently. Actions speak a lot fucking louder than words.

11 William of Orange  Sep 28, 2014 12:15:42pm

Monstertruck crashes into crowd in the Netherlands

Tragedy struck in the eastern city of Haaksbergen in the Netherlands. A monstertruck driver performing in the city square lost control f the vehicle and plowed through the audience. The sad outcome is that two people lost their lives, one of them a child. Seeing the video footage it’s a miracle only two people died. At least a dozen were injured, five of them seriously. At the site of newspaper Telegraaf there are clips of yhe incident.

Link1.
Link2.

12 BlueSpotinAL  Sep 28, 2014 12:15:42pm

re: #2 WhatEVs

That they say this. In public. “Out loud” - should terrify all women and any men who love them.

American religious conservatives are different from radicals in other religions how, exactly?

Hanging instead of beheading?

13 Kragar  Sep 28, 2014 12:16:06pm

What a vile disgusting man

14 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:17:08pm

re: #9 The Mountain That Blogs

How far does it go—I refer women having ectopic pregnancies that will kill them if they are allowed to grow to the gynecologists who perform the abortions will full knowledge of what they intend to do. Does that make me an accessory to first degree murder?

I guess if the woman has to carry that pregnancy to term, we can charge the fetus with murder then?

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15 The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 28, 2014 12:17:58pm

re: #14 klys

Murder-suicide. No one to charge.

16 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:18:21pm

re: #15 The Mountain That Blogs

Murder-suicide. No one to charge.

I laugh because otherwise I will cry.

17 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 12:20:51pm

re: #12 BlueSpotinAL

Hanging instead of beheading?

I guess christians don’t behead. I bet they could get an argument out of Goliath on that point.

18 Belafon  Sep 28, 2014 12:21:03pm

But don’t ever say they are exactly like the Taliban, ISIS, or any of the other religious terror groups. Actually, go ahead and yell it in their faces.

19 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 12:21:54pm

re: #17 Eventual Carrion

I guess christians don’t behead. I bet they could get an argument out of Goliath on that point.

Anne Boleyn begs to differ.

20 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 12:22:48pm
21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2014 12:23:06pm

What is with the latest Facebook meme about ISIS stepping on babies of Christians who refuse to convert? My niece posted one today. I delete before I read it, that sort of politics is not welcome on my FB feed.

22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2014 12:24:54pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Make no mistake - @KevinNR is not the only conservative who’s this twisted. Their agenda is to roll back all progress on women’s rights.

and gay and LGBT rights, minority rights (including religious minorities and atheists) and voting rights, etc.

Labor and consumer rights have already been rolled back since the 1960’s but there is still room to diminish them even more…

23 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:25:50pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I guess women can’t commit suicide while pregnant, then, according to him.

Where do we draw the line? Can a woman risk her own life while pregnant but do we need to step in and protect the fetus? What about drinking while pregnant? Harms the fetus, maybe we should throw the woman in prison.

You know, we should just be pre-emptive and imprison all women during their pregnancy, because they might do something to harm the fetus. How better to protect them?

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24 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 12:27:15pm

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What is with the latest Facebook meme about ISIS stepping on babies of Christians who refuse to convert? My niece posted one today. I delete before I read it, that sort of politics is not welcome on my FB feed.

Maybe they’re recycling the old “throwing babies out of incubators” theme from back in Gulf War I days.

25 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 12:27:38pm
26 Belafon  Sep 28, 2014 12:27:52pm

re: #23 klys

You’re not thinking far enough behind ahead: We should imprison all women because they might be pregnant and not know it they might not want to get pregnant against God’s will.

27 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 12:28:47pm

re: #23 klys

You know, we should just be pre-emptive and imprison all women during their pregnancy years of fertility, because they might do something to harm the fetus possible pregnancy. How better to protect them?

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FTFThem.

28 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 12:29:51pm

re: #26 Belafon

Oooh, you went farther than I did! And faster!

29 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:30:00pm

re: #23 klys

And this is meant as sarcasm but there are already places with Republican majorities where women can be arrested for drug use during pregnancy.

30 Kragar  Sep 28, 2014 12:30:02pm

So I take it Kevin D. Williamson is fully on board with 100% free and universal access to all forms of birth control, to include emergency contraception, and backs the mandatory teaching of comprehensive sex ed in all US schools?
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31 Ryan King  Sep 28, 2014 12:30:51pm

You’re having a conversation with a nutter that considers a zygote, a fetus, an organism in it’s its earliest forms of developmental stages, as a viable human life equitable to a living being.

They’re a cult.

32 Belafon  Sep 28, 2014 12:32:30pm

re: #30 Kragar

So I take it Kevin D. Williamson is fully on board with 100% free and universal access to all forms of birth control, to include emergency contraception, and backs the mandatory teaching of comprehensive sex ed in all US schools?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Only because wrenchwench and I got there first.

33 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 28, 2014 12:33:12pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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There really is no difference between him and a senior member of ISIS ordering people to be murdered except this: We still have laws against his evil and he still has to fear those laws. But if he got power?

The radical right always has been and always will be the greatest threat to life and liberty in America.

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 28, 2014 12:36:06pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

FTFThem.

I don’t want to think how warped stuff would get with these folks if the technology gets far enough to heavily disconnect the female body from human reproduction; e.g. uterine replicators where the zygote is transferred to a mechanical device very early on in the process.

35 Kragar  Sep 28, 2014 12:37:30pm

Using Williamson’s logic, I guess we should also execute people who sell guns or ammo to shooters because they’re enabling murderers.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 12:38:43pm

The medical term for a miscarriage is “spontaneous abortion”.
I endured at least six of those.
Who does he insist be hanged? Me or his “god” who let that happen?

37 Belafon  Sep 28, 2014 12:38:49pm

re: #35 Kragar

We could also execute the CEOs of oil companies for being polluters.

38 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 12:39:05pm

re: #35 Kragar

Using Williamson’s logic, I guess we should also execute people who sell guns or ammo to shooters because they’re enabling murderers.

Well, those are different becasue

39 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 12:41:24pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

The medical term for a miscarriage is “spontaneous abortion”.
I endured at least six of those.
Who does he insist be hanged? Me or his “god” who let that happen?

Maybe you would have endured fewer of those if he could have locked you up while he investigated the first one.

{{{BWS}}}

40 Stephen T.  Sep 28, 2014 12:41:40pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

The medical term for a miscarriage is “spontaneous abortion”.
I endured at least six of those.
Who does he insist be hanged? Me or his “god” who let that happen?

I’m sure he, like other RWNJ, would insist that all victims of a miscarriage be investigated for the suspicion of causing the miscarriage. Yet more evidence of the RWNJ’s misogyny,

41 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 12:42:33pm
42 jaunte  Sep 28, 2014 12:44:24pm

Is ‘pre-lifer’ a typo or yet another strange political category?

43 Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2014 12:46:49pm

re: #42 jaunte

Is ‘pre-lifer’ a typo or yet another strange political category?

It’s who you are before you think you are, therefore you was.

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 12:47:39pm

re: #26 Belafon

You’re not thinking far enough behind ahead: We should imprison all women because they might be pregnant and not know it they might not want to get pregnant against God’s will.

Handmaid’s Tale.

45 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 12:48:20pm

re: #42 jaunte

Is ‘pre-lifer’ a typo or yet another strange political category?

They call fetuses “pre-born babies” but I don’t think “pre-life” because according to their thinking a fetus is already life. A sperm & unfertilized egg are “pre-life”

46 jaunte  Sep 28, 2014 12:48:49pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Handmaid’s Precrime.

47 Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2014 12:52:40pm

re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord

They call fetuses “pre-born babies” but I don’t think “pre-life” because according to their thinking a fetus is already life. A sperm & unfertilized egg are “pre-life”

So, in other words, this:

Youtube Video

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 12:53:56pm

re: #42 jaunte

Is ‘pre-lifer’ a typo or yet another strange political category?

Actually, that is a real thing.
There is a belief in life before conception (“pre-existence” or “pre-life”), specifically with Mormons.
It was recently very much defined in law when Arizona legislators passed and Jan Brewer signed an abortion law in 2012 saying life begins two weeks before conception.

49 klys  Sep 28, 2014 12:54:52pm

Taking a small side step, there was a press conference today by the Japanese Meteorological Agency (responsible for their volcano monitoring) where they said they believe this was a phreatic eruption and more are possible.

Mt. Ontake’s last phreatic eruption was in 2007.

50 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 12:57:24pm

re: #49 klys

Taking a small side step, there was a press conference today by the Japanese Meteorological Agency (responsible for their volcano monitoring) where they said they believe this was a phreatic eruption and more are possible.

Mt. Ontake’s last phreatic eruption was in 2007.

Phreatic explosions can be accompanied by carbon dioxide or hydrogen sulfide gas emissions. The former can asphyxiate at sufficient concentration; the latter is a broad spectrum poison. A 1979 phreatic eruption on the island of Java killed 140 people, most of whom were overcome by poisonous gases.[2]

Those poor climbers.

51 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 12:58:00pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, that is a real thing.
There is a belief in life before conception (“pre-existence” or “pre-life”), specifically with Mormons.
It was recently very much defined in law when Arizona legislators passed and Jan Brewer signed an abortion law in 2012 saying life begins two weeks before conception.

They count pregnancy as beginning with the time of the last menstrual period, in other words WHEN A WOMAN CAN NOT POSSIBLE BE PREGNANT just in order to attach another 2 weeks on to the advancement of a pregnancy so they can deny an abortion to someone who is 18 weeks along.

52 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 1:01:37pm
53 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 1:01:41pm

Very helpful.

54 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 28, 2014 1:01:59pm

Haven’t gone through the thread yet, but I will post what I posted in the previous thread:

I have a former girlfriend who had an abortion of a child of mine because it wasn’t viable. She wouldn’t have survived if the operation wasn’t performed.

I will respectfully tell Kevin Williamson to go fuck himself.

And again, Go Fuck Yourself, Kevin Williamson.

Now back to reading the lizard wisdom.

55 sagehen  Sep 28, 2014 1:06:37pm

re: #31 Ryan King

You’re having a conversation with a nutter that considers a zygote, a fetus, an organism in it’s its earliest forms of developmental stages, as a viable human life equitable superior to a living being.

They’re a cult.

FTFY

After all, if my cousin needs a bone marrow transplant, or my offspring needs a kidney, or even just a couple pints of blood… I don’t have to give it to them. People might call me names if they knew I made that choice, they might disapprove of my decision, but nobody’s suggesting the law should require I give of those parts just because somebody’s life depends on it.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, not causative at all, that men have bone marrow and kidneys and blood.

56 alpuz  Sep 28, 2014 1:13:42pm

I ride my bike past these ‘pro-life’ assholes once a week. I was coming home from a doctor’s appointment in a car the other day and I flipped them off. I couldn’t help myself.

Their response? ‘Fuck you too, buddy’.

Yep.

57 scottslemmons  Sep 28, 2014 1:19:16pm

re: #56 alpuz

They are indeed intensely Christian, ain’t they.

What would Jesus do? Turn the other cheek? What a little gamma.

58 klys  Sep 28, 2014 1:21:27pm

It appears the twitter user who posted the photo at the summit just before the eruption made it down safely but has protected his account/possibly deleted it.

I am hopeful, at least, because he has two kitties to go home to.

His tweet says (roughly) “Thank you all for worrying, I made it down the mountain safely this morning. I am going to delete my account.”

59 ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2014 1:22:04pm

re: #11 William of Orange

Monstertruck crashes into crowd in the Netherlands

Tragedy struck in the eastern city of Haaksbergen in the Netherlands. A monstertruck driver performing in the city square lost control f the vehicle and plowed through the audience. The sad outcome is that two people lost their lives, one of them a child. Seeing the video footage it’s a miracle only two people died. At least a dozen were injured, five of them seriously. At the site of newspaper Telegraaf there are clips of yhe incident.

Link1.
Link2.

That’s a sad tragedy. As a fan of motorsports all I can say is, high performance vehicles of any kind do not belong in any environment outside a real facility designed for such events and for those vehicles used at the facility. Even then bad things happen. I’ve heard of a few demonstrations that have turned bad.

60 Archangelus  Sep 28, 2014 1:22:24pm

Unbelievable that a man who openly advocates for killing women can consider himself as “pro-life” in any capacity…

I’ve heard very similar words in the past from the demented folks in the darker corner of this region - make no mistake, translate his words as is and put a mask on his face and you’ll find ZERO distinction between what he’s uttered and the rantings of those belonging to Al Qaeda, Al Jema’ah Al Islamiyah and others fanatics…

61 BongCrodny  Sep 28, 2014 1:25:08pm

I note that Dark Falcon hasn’t yet taken part in this conversation. That’s okay; he shouldn’t find it mandatory to defend every half-wit asshole that says something far-fetched.

However…Dark’s pimped National Review countless times and, if I’m not mistaken, he’s pimped Williamson as well.

So, Dark, while I like you as a person — as much as you can like someone you’ve never met — this is the kind of venom I really despise.

Consider this fair warning: You ever pimp National Review again, for any reason, you get a downding. Doesn’t matter if the article or writer in question might make perfect sense. I’ve just seen too much bullshit come from those guys over the past few years to give them the benefit of the doubt for anything.

I’m not seeing a whole lot of difference between ISIS and guys like Williamson. He’s a complete and total fuckwad, and if guys like him had their way, I’d be visiting my sister’s grave site.

Fuck him. *Spit.*

62 alpuz  Sep 28, 2014 1:25:23pm

re: #57 scottslemmons

Clueless bags of hypocritical dicks is what they are.

63 klys  Sep 28, 2014 1:29:22pm

re: #58 klys

Here’s a post that has a screencap of his photo tweet.

64 Archangelus  Sep 28, 2014 1:31:18pm

re: #61 BongCrodny

I’m not seeing a whole lot of difference between ISIS and guys like Williamson.

I don’t at all - as per my previous post above, if it talks like a jihadi and walks like a jihadi, it’s a jihadi, albeit a Christian one in this case..

65 klys  Sep 28, 2014 1:31:58pm

re: #63 klys

Another user that was at the summit close to the eruption and from Twitter reports is ok. Sadly, the rough translation of his tweet includes the comment “there are a lot of people at the summit.”

66 Archangelus  Sep 28, 2014 1:34:08pm

Kevin Williamson is welcome to go f*ck himself with a thermite-laced iron pitchfork as far as I’m concerned…

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 1:35:35pm

re: #66 Archangelus

Kevin Williamson is welcome to go f*ck himself with a thermite-laced iron pitchfork as far as I’m concerned…

And I hope he gets pregnant as a result.

68 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2014 1:35:58pm

OT:

For the past 3 days, I’ve been seeing unusual scat or animal droppings in my yard, and driveway.

The largest herbivores resident in our Nashville neighborhood are rabbits & ground hogs, and these leavings didn’t fit the profile.

Walked outside this afternoon, and the mystery was solved.

A sheep was grazing in our neighbor’s yard with a chewed thru tether around its neck.

The neighbor wasn’t at home so I called animal control.

The sheep wandered off, but with the some of the nutso “my lawn is greener than your” lawns in our neighborhood, it will have plenty of food supply.

Have to wonder where it came from, as the nearest homes with pasture land are at lest 5 miles from here.

69 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 1:38:03pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I hope he gets pregnant as a result.

With triplets.

70 Romantic Heretic  Sep 28, 2014 1:39:55pm

I notice that Mr. Williamson’s expression is what you see on all ignorant, cruel fanatics. A mixture of utter surety that his view is the only correct one mixed with utter contempt and hatred for those with different opinions.

I would say something about faces and the need to punch said faces but I’m better than that.

71 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 1:42:55pm

Sorry OT, but I posted this in a dead thread, and would really really like to get some feedback from our cat people. I’m still OMG.

Just heard the wildest cat story. My friend’s Mom just did a big house move. The most obvious effect on their 2 yr old inside cat is he is stressed to get outside to the wildlife. There’s a fox out there apparently.

Well last night he scratched her, she had to go to the emergency room & get 12 stitches.

???

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 1:44:16pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Sorry OT, but I posted this in a dead thread, and would really really like to get some feedback from our cat people. I’m still OMG.

???

Cat wanted OUT.
OUT NOW!!!

73 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 1:48:18pm
74 HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2014 1:49:45pm

Writer for white nationalist rag say what. Seriously fuck him and fuck NR.

75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 28, 2014 1:54:06pm

Note that this is the only intellectually consistent anti-choice position.

76 De Kolta Chair  Sep 28, 2014 2:00:40pm
77 whitebeach  Sep 28, 2014 2:01:11pm

Let’s see, according to this hole, “the entire criminal architecture” should be strung up, including doctors, nurses, etc. Presumably that would include Supreme Court justices who decided pro on Roe v. Wade. And of course the presidents who appointed those justices, and the senators who approved those appointments. And then you have all the voters who elected those presidents and senators, going back to Ike and maybe beyond.

Man, we’re gonna need a lotta rope.

78 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 2:03:50pm

re: #75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Note that this is the only intellectually consistent anti-choice position.

Which is why the decision should always be the woman’s.

If the intellectually consistent position equates a zygote with a woman values a zygote over a woman, it’s obviously not a situation for intellect. It is a situation for the autonomy of the person most involved—the pregnant woman.

79 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 2:04:45pm

re: #75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Note that this is the only intellectually consistent anti-choice position.

That’s why I said I always appreciate it when these people drop the mask and be honest about what they really want. Clarity is good.

80 BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2014 2:05:08pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Sorry OT, but I posted this in a dead thread, and would really really like to get some feedback from our cat people. I’m still OMG.

???

She should get a cat litter box, and some cat tranquilizers.

Keep the cat tranquil for a couple of days while it gets use (new smells & new places inside to explore) to the new surroundings.

Hopefully there’s someplace in the new house where the cat can get up off the floor and ” be above it all.”

Moved pet dogs and cats from state to state several times.

The dogs don’t care about moving, they just want to hang out with us and the cat(s ).

The cats seem to adjust easier by being tranquil for a couple of days in the new home.

81 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 28, 2014 2:05:42pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

I wonder if NR lets him stay. This is a perfectly conservative position too.

82 Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2014 2:09:25pm

re: #81 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I wonder if NR lets him stay. This is a perfectly conservative position too.

Oh, he won’t be fired for this. No way.

83 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 28, 2014 2:11:29pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Oh, he won’t be fired for this. No way.

Every Republican candidate should be required to make clear whether they agree with this position.

84 teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2014 2:11:43pm

A man who wants to dictate policy on abortion doesn’t participate in the democratic process. What a tool.

85 Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2014 2:12:50pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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A man who wants to dictate policy on abortion doesn’t participate in the democratic process. What a tool.

Stupid fool. Unbelievable.

86 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 2:12:56pm

re: #81 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I wonder if NR lets him stay. This is a perfectly conservative position too.

I don’t think it’s controversial for them.

87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 28, 2014 2:13:56pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Internally, no. But they’re not insulated from the rest of the world and this should become a liability.

88 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 2:14:02pm

re: #83 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Every Republican candidate should be required to make clear whether they agree with this position.

There are some conservative Dems too.

89 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 28, 2014 2:15:11pm

There is A Much Bigger Police Problem Than Cell/Toy Cam/Drone Problem

90 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 2:15:14pm

re: #87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Internally, no. But they’re not insulated from the rest of the world and this should become a liability.

Should have a long time ago. Maybe was at one time. The evangelicals have them by the short, gray hairs now.

91 urbanmeemaw  Sep 28, 2014 2:18:39pm

re: #24 Eventual Carrion

Maybe they’re recycling the old “throwing babies out of incubators” theme from back in Gulf War I days.

And speaking of Rethugs’ reverence for babies and new life, here is a link for Southern Beale which is a variation on the David Frum tweet regarding Chelsea’s new baby:

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92 urbanmeemaw  Sep 28, 2014 2:21:32pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{{{BWS}}}}

93 wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2014 2:23:20pm

If you are going to do this at home, please not on the 18th century upholstery.

Youtube Video

Later, lizards.

94 Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2014 2:23:23pm

re: #14 klys

I guess if the woman has to carry that pregnancy to term, we can charge the fetus with murder then?

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No, the woman’s life doesn’t matter — it’s all about the fetus.

95 Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2014 2:23:43pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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A man who wants to dictate policy on abortion doesn’t participate in the democratic process. What a tool.

Or so he says.

96 teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2014 2:24:02pm

Kubrick.

97 Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2014 2:25:33pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

A Clockwork Orange.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 2:25:34pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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A man who wants to dictate policy on abortion doesn’t participate in the democratic process. What a tool.

99 De Kolta Chair  Sep 28, 2014 2:29:33pm

Kubrick kitteh

100 thatthatisis  Sep 28, 2014 2:41:09pm

A fire fighter runs into a burning building. He can either rescue test tubes containing two zygotes, or he can rescue a little four-year-old girl. By the logic of radical anti-choicers, the fire fighter should rescue the test tubes and leave the innocent little four year old to burn to death.

For a father with a young child and a dying wife who can only be saved by an abortion, this is the choice.

101 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 28, 2014 2:41:47pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

Very helpful.

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How unexpected.
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LAPD has had an issue with that as well as IIRC a New Orleans officer in a fatal shoot.

102 andres  Sep 28, 2014 2:47:43pm

Williamson seems like a kind, young chap. //

If these are his feelings on abortion, then I’d wager that for every homicide there is, he would send the store employees and the respective store owners that sold the guns and the bullets to the killers, and those who trained them to the death sentence. You know, to “address the entire criminal architecture”. It’s only fair.

103 ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2014 2:48:56pm

re: #60 Archangelus

Unbelievable that a man who openly advocates for killing women can consider himself as “pro-life” in any capacity…

I’ve heard very similar words in the past from the demented folks in the darker corner of this region - make no mistake, translate his words as is and put a mask on his face and you’ll find ZERO distinction between what he’s uttered and the rantings of those belonging to Al Qaeda, Al Jema’ah Al Islamiyah and others fanatics…

I’m not sure why, but the way your comment I am quoting is worded made me think of another twist to this Kevin D. Willamson idiot’s stance on women and abortion.

It has been said by some that ISIS is driven by desire of wicked people more into the blood of their extremism and just want a reason to kill. So they use a radical religion ideology as their excuse to do what they want to do. Sick folks bent on getting to fulfill their darkest desires to want to do something like murder adults and children due to their not converting, or gruesome beheading for recruitment of other murderers, etc.

Makes me wonder if some of the zealots like Kevin D. Williamson might be into the harsh treatment of women’s reproductive rights because they use extremist religious thinking to want to act out on women. Do they hate women? Are they products of mistreatment by a woman and they want them all to suffer? Did girlfriends, mothers, sisters, etc., have an abortion? Something tells me there is more to this thinking than religion.

Sometimes is just seems folks just love the idea of some heavy punitive punishment for others. And some of them want to take it as far as they can. Maybe they need that to really make them feel good about saving a life.

104 lostlakehiker  Sep 28, 2014 3:00:26pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

DO NOT take any of the gains made in the past fifty years in women’s, gay and minority rights for granted: there are people out there working to actively roll them back

Do take many of them as pretty well consolidated. There are people actively working to rescind the prohibition of slavery, too, I reckon, but they aren’t going to get anywhere with it.

This guy is a good example of somebody who’s lost all contact with the reality of what is and isn’t culturally possible.* We aren’t going to execute women who get abortions. No jury would hand down a guilty verdict. Not while the US remains in any way recognizably the US.

And is there any place in the world where that’s the penalty? Has there been such a place any time within this century? Maybe Romania’s Ceaucescu would have done that, but he’s 20th century and he met pretty much the same end as did Mussolini so he’s not going to get copycats eager to follow in his footsteps.

*Let alone decent and defensible. But sometimes things happen that are indecent and indefensible. Just—-not so brazenly. This proposal doesn’t pass the upchuck test. Not one US representative would endorse it, not one big-box church pastor would endorse it. Not one rabbi, or mullah, or imam, or priest. The leadership of the country, across the spectrum, will either not deign to give the issue the time of day since no one with any sway is proposing it, or will denounce it for the bloody madness it is.

105 lostlakehiker  Sep 28, 2014 3:03:00pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Oh, he won’t be fired for this. No way.

I bet he is. Within the week.

106 Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2014 3:05:44pm

re: #104 lostlakehiker

And is there any place in the world where that’s the penalty? Has there been such a place any time within this century?

Well, in El Salvador, they’re more than happy to toss women in jail for having a miscarriage…

107 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 3:06:22pm

re: #100 thatthatisis

A fire fighter runs into a burning building. He can either rescue test tubes containing two zygotes, or he can rescue a little four-year-old girl. By the logic of radical anti-choicers, the fire fighter should rescue the test tubes and leave the innocent little four year old to burn to death.

For a father with a young child and a dying wife who can only be saved by an abortion, this is the choice.

That’s a trick question. A proper constitutional firefighter has no business in a burning building unless the market-aware owner has contracted with his private corporation to provide specified services. In fact, it might be a violation of the 4th Amendment, and the 4 yr/old should stand her ground with her Hello Kitty 22LR.

108 andres  Sep 28, 2014 3:06:58pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

Sometimes is just seems folks just love the idea of some heavy punitive punishment for others. And some of them want to take it as far as they can. Maybe they need that to really make them feel good about saving a life.

Sadly, we live in a revengeful society. The Collective We can’t look past revenge and put backs. If the society can look past petty revenge, maybe, just maybe, we can make a better world.

109 De Kolta Chair  Sep 28, 2014 3:08:04pm

110 andres  Sep 28, 2014 3:14:02pm

While watching the Twitter search, I came across this apparent quote from a NR article by Williamson:

If you get your politics from actors and your news from television comedians — you should not vote.

Does that mean that the Republican Party, as a block, should not participate in the elections? They take their politics and worship an actor (one actor in particular).

111 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:17:19pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

I think some of these men like Williamson are jealous of women, and afraid of women.
I do believe that they think women have an easy life because what they (as all powerful men) do is sooo much harder and more difficult than what women do because women just hang out around the house all day doing easy stuff like baking cookies and picking up things to keep the house tidy and popping about babies is just easy-peasy, and all the time doing that stuff wearing pearls and high heels…

*spit*

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:19:38pm

re: #104 lostlakehiker

Do take many of them as pretty well consolidated. There are people actively working to rescind the prohibition of slavery, too, I reckon, but they aren’t going to get anywhere with it.

This guy is a good example of somebody who’s lost all contact with the reality of what is and isn’t culturally possible.* We aren’t going to execute women who get abortions. No jury would hand down a guilty verdict. Not while the US remains in any way recognizably the US.

And is there any place in the world where that’s the penalty? Has there been such a place any time within this century? Maybe Romania’s Ceaucescu would have done that, but he’s 20th century and he met pretty much the same end as did Mussolini so he’s not going to get copycats eager to follow in his footsteps.

*Let alone decent and defensible. But sometimes things happen that are indecent and indefensible. Just—-not so brazenly. This proposal doesn’t pass the upchuck test. Not one US representative would endorse it, not one big-box church pastor would endorse it. Not one rabbi, or mullah, or imam, or priest. The leadership of the country, across the spectrum, will either not deign to give the issue the time of day since no one with any sway is proposing it, or will denounce it for the bloody madness it is.

Mississippi.

113 b_sharp  Sep 28, 2014 3:21:39pm

re: #108 andres

Sadly, we live in a revengeful society. The Collective We can’t look past revenge and put backs. If the society can look past petty revenge, maybe, just maybe, we can make a better world.

Seems to me that’s why there’s a push on to make jail more retributive and less reformative. Scaring people away from breaking the law is looked on in some circles as more effective than dealing with the causes and reducing recidivism.

Of course deterrents do work with a portion of citizens, namely those who demand jails be hell holes, but it doesn’t work on the majority of people, those who value society and don’t need threats to act morally.

For those who break the law, their belief in their ability to not be caught, or emotional states where they simply don’t care or the reward far surpasses fear of even a hell hole jail can be affected by methods other than abusive treatment.

114 Belafon  Sep 28, 2014 3:23:15pm

re: #100 thatthatisis

I wonder if “I’m pretty sure God had your appendix burst for a reason, so i see no need for surgery” would work on him.

115 lostlakehiker  Sep 28, 2014 3:28:35pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mississippi.

I have to write very carefully here, and it would be nice if people would return the favor and read carefully. I carefully refrained from claiming that there was no country and no part of the US where abortion was illegal and the woman who got the abortion faced punishment. I wrote only that so far as I knew, they didn’t face execution.

Our NR author Kevin has crossed every last bridge with his opinion that they should be executed, and in so doing, he’s lost the company of even El Salvador and Mississippi. And that is kind of my point. His proposal has no meaningful backing anywhere and won’t gather any support from any quarter. And I reiterate my prediction that he’ll be sent packing from NR.

116 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 3:32:21pm

re: #115 lostlakehiker

I have to write very carefully here, and it would be nice if people would return the favor and read carefully. I carefully refrained from claiming that there was no country and no part of the US where abortion was illegal and the woman who got the abortion faced punishment. I wrote only that so far as I knew, they didn’t face execution.

Our NR author Kevin has crossed every last bridge with his opinion that they should be executed, and in so doing, he’s lost the company of even El Salvador and Mississippi. And that is kind of my point. His proposal has no meaningful backing anywhere and won’t gather any support from any quarter. And I reiterate my prediction that he’ll be sent packing from NR.

Ghost William Buckley jr raises an appraising eyebrow in purgatory.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:33:34pm

re: #115 lostlakehiker

I have to write very carefully here, and it would be nice if people would return the favor and read carefully. I carefully refrained from claiming that there was no country and no part of the US where abortion was illegal and the woman who got the abortion faced punishment. I wrote only that so far as I knew, they didn’t face execution.

Our NR author Kevin has crossed every last bridge with his opinion that they should be executed, and in so doing, he’s lost the company of even El Salvador and Mississippi. And that is kind of my point. His proposal has no meaningful backing anywhere and won’t gather any support from any quarter. And I reiterate my prediction that he’ll be sent packing from NR.

And some of us did indeed read very carefully and gave you examples.
There are even more examples we can give, even specific examples where women are indeed executed.
As for being sent packing from NR, do not hold your breath on that.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:33:43pm
119 nines09  Sep 28, 2014 3:36:02pm

How about the guy who knocked her up, jerkoff? Oh, wait. I forgot. It’s always the woman’s fault, isn’t it? Your mother, motherfucker.

120 XtremeDave  Sep 28, 2014 3:36:40pm

After Williamson freaked out at a Gawker post saying climate change deniers should be jailed and declared it proof of liberal fascism, nice to see he is still in favor of executing people based on their beliefs (in the case of pro-choice politicians).

Authoritarianism, it’s okay when its my side doing it!

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:37:21pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He keeps deleting tweets…guess that’s God’s perogative.

122 lostlakehiker  Sep 28, 2014 3:37:41pm

re: #113 b_sharp

Seems to me that’s why there’s a push on to make jail more retributive and less reformative. Scaring people away from breaking the law is looked on in some circles as more effective than dealing with the causes and reducing recidivism.

Of course deterrents do work with a portion of citizens, namely those who demand jails be hell holes, but it doesn’t work on the majority of people, those who value society and don’t need threats to act morally.

For those who break the law, their belief in their ability to not be caught, or emotional states where they simply don’t care or the reward far surpasses fear of even a hell hole jail can be affected by methods other than abusive treatment.

One of the causes of crime is that in some places, the criminal has a well founded expectation that he won’t be caught and punished. Savage retribution is neither needed nor effective, but sure and swift punishment, modest but enough to make the racket unattractive, is another story.

If you want fewer speedsters on the road, you don’t need multi-thousand dollar fines. You just need speed cameras, radar traps etc. and a mechanism to enforce a fine that gets the driver’s attention.

As to jail, it needs to be humane and respectful. You’re trying to impress upon the prisoner a new way of thinking about other people and their rights. This has to begin with the system itself setting a good example.

My fury with Chuck Colson for his part in Watergate faded over the years as he absorbed this lesson and went forth from prison to teach it more widely. Taking his life as a whole, I now find myself, to my surprise, an admirer.

123 allegro  Sep 28, 2014 3:37:52pm

re: #115 lostlakehiker

I have to write very carefully here, and it would be nice if people would return the favor and read carefully. I carefully refrained from claiming that there was no country and no part of the US where abortion was illegal and the woman who got the abortion faced punishment. I wrote only that so far as I knew, they didn’t face execution.

Our NR author Kevin has crossed every last bridge with his opinion that they should be executed, and in so doing, he’s lost the company of even El Salvador and Mississippi. And that is kind of my point. His proposal has no meaningful backing anywhere and won’t gather any support from any quarter. And I reiterate my prediction that he’ll be sent packing from NR.

Back in the late 80s-early 90s I started to become alarmed at the rise of the religious right and talked about it to friends and family. I always heard “oh, that will never happen, it’s just the fringe” when talking about women’s right to choose. Roe v Wade will never be overturned, they said; contraception will never be questioned, they argued. It was just unthinkable, they laughed, telling me I was nuts for believing my lying eyes.

So here we are. Roe v Wade is still in place technically, but women are denied legal access by cost prohibitive waiting times, distances needed to be traveled because most clinics have been closed due to onerous and ridiculous laws, doctors/nurses being threatened and fucking murdered and more. Now, women who use birth control are sluts and rapists have parental rights.

Fuck this “it will never happen” shit. It HAS happened and it WILL continue to happen the longer an argument like yours continues to be made.

124 A Mom Anon  Sep 28, 2014 3:41:36pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

Large, difficult to birth triplets.

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 3:42:01pm

Speaking of Mississippi, I just finished reading Greg Iles Natchez Burning, it’s something like 800 pages and I kept it out of the library 2 days past the due date BUT IT WAS SO TOTALLY WORTH IT.

THIS BOOK IS ALL TEH AWESOME.

126 Lidane  Sep 28, 2014 3:42:53pm

It’s okay. The GOP will just brag about their hybrid cars and their love for pumpkin spice lattes and all will be forgiven.

You know, because they’re people too.

127 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 3:43:17pm

re: #123 allegro

Back in the late 80s-early 90s I started to become alarmed at the rise of the religious right and talked about it to friends and family. I always heard “oh, that will never happen, it’s just the fringe” when talking about women’s right to choose. Roe v Wade will never be overturned, they said; contraception will never be questioned, they argued. It was just unthinkable, they laughed, telling me I was nuts for believing my lying eyes.

So here we are. Roe v Wade is still in place technically, but women are denied legal access by cost prohibitive waiting times, distances needed to be traveled because most clinics have been closed due to onerous and ridiculous laws, doctors/nurses being threatened and fucking murdered and more. Now, women who use birth control are sluts and rapists have parental rights.

Fuck this “it will never happen” shit. It HAS happened and it WILL continue to happen the longer an argument like yours continues to be made.

In the early 60s, my history teacher, an ebullient, relentlessly optimistic Franciscan, gave our class a firm logical defense of the Inquisition. Scared the hell out of me (later) and convinced me any of these God-botherers will set up the stakes any time they get the chance.

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:45:58pm

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

Speaking of Mississippi, I just finished reading Greg Iles Natchez Burning, it’s something like 800 pages and I kept it out of the library 2 days past the due date BUT IT WAS SO TOTALLY WORTH IT.

THIS BOOK IS ALL TEH AWESOME.

It really is excellent.

129 DobermanBoston  Sep 28, 2014 3:47:01pm

Williamson has been getting more maudlin and obsessive on the abortion topic in his columns lately. Seems like he finally snapped this morning.

130 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 3:47:23pm
131 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 3:48:09pm

Yeah you erred.

132 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 3:48:59pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

It really is excellent.

AND THERE ARE TWO MORE INSTALLMENTS!!!!! ARRRRGGH.

133 goddamnedfrank  Sep 28, 2014 3:50:06pm

re: #104 lostlakehiker

And is there any place in the world where that’s the penalty? Has there been such a place any time within this century? Maybe Romania’s Ceaucescu would have done that, but he’s 20th century and he met pretty much the same end as did Mussolini so he’s not going to get copycats eager to follow in his footsteps.

*Let alone decent and defensible. But sometimes things happen that are indecent and indefensible. Just—-not so brazenly. This proposal doesn’t pass the upchuck test. Not one US representative would endorse it, not one big-box church pastor would endorse it. Not one rabbi, or mullah, or imam, or priest. The leadership of the country, across the spectrum, will either not deign to give the issue the time of day since no one with any sway is proposing it, or will denounce it for the bloody madness it is.

Listen to LLH. This is a total non-issue you pathetic, sensitive, libtard cock-fags. Senators like Rand Paul would never introduce something as insane as a fetal personhood bill. There’s no way a country like Kenya would sentence a nurse to death for taking part in an abortion. A US state like Georgia would never actually consider legislation that applied the death penalty to abortion. Actual Reverends like Michael Bray would never, ever write books like “A Time to Kill” entirely dedicated to the idea of legitimizing the killing of people involved in abortions.

All your concerns are silly and stupid and retarded and totally based on an imbalance of your hysterical humors. Lostlakehiker is a very serious commenter and not at all selling you a pile of conservative apologist horse shit and denial.

134 freetoken  Sep 28, 2014 3:50:21pm

An insight into our culture, which may or may not have bearing on the topic of abortion:

Record Share of Americans Have Never Married

135 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 28, 2014 3:55:15pm

”War on women? Pfffft! I dunno what you’re talking about! What war on women?”

136 palomino  Sep 28, 2014 3:55:31pm

No offense to anyone, but as long as KDW writes for NR, anyone who defends that publication is fucked in the head.

137 BongCrodny  Sep 28, 2014 3:56:28pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Listent to LLH. This is a total non-issue you pathetic, sensitive, libtard cock-fags. Senators like Rand Paul would never introduce something as insane as a fetal personhood bill. There’s no way a country like Kenya would sentence a nurse to death for taking part in an abortion. A US state like Georgia would never actually consider legislation that applied the death penalty to abortion. Actual Reverends like Michael Bray would never, ever write books like “A Time to Kill” entirely dedicated to the idea of legitimizing the killing of people involved in abortions.

All your concerns are silly and stupid and retarded and totally based on an imbalance of your hysterical humors. Lostlakehiker is a very serious commenter and not at all selling you a pile of conservative apologist horse shit and denial.

Worth 1,000 updings.

138 freetoken  Sep 28, 2014 4:00:01pm

The duck pond that keeps on giving…

Duck nephew and GOP candidate for congress Zach Dasher sort-of-but-not-really walks back his blaming of the Sandy Hook incident on the godless heathen:

‘Duck Dynasty’ Relative Warns of Rejecting God and ‘Moral Decay’ After Furor Over His Comments About Atheism

[…]

“I would say that I’m not blaming Sandy Hook on [atheists],” he said when asked how he would respond to nonbelievers following controversy over his remarks. “[But] I would ask them to give us something in their worldview that would provide a objective moral obligation to prohibit this from happening.”

[…]

You’ll need to read the whole thing (sorry, it’s The Blaze) to see how really, densely, stupid Duck-nephew’s whole argument is.

I wonder if he’ll be elected in the fall?

139 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:00:33pm

What about the men who help create the unwanted pregnancy?

What about any children she already has?

Creating a culture of slut-shaming has really worked in the past —hasn’t it?

*gah*

140 Lidane  Sep 28, 2014 4:01:59pm

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

What about the men who help create the unwanted pregnancy?

What about any children she already has?

Creating a culture of slut-shaming has really worked in the past —hasn’t it?

*gah*

Men are allowed to do anything sexually and fuck anyone they want without consequence. Women get punished for being sexual, and heaven help her if she wants to have a say in her own body or her autonomy.

141 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:03:33pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

In the early 60s, my history teacher, an ebullient, relentlessly optimistic Franciscan, gave our class a firm logical defense of the Inquisition. Scared the hell out of me (later) and convinced me any of these God-botherers will set up the stakes any time they get the chance.

bbbbut, it can’t happen here.

142 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:03:50pm

re: #140 Lidane

Men are allowed to do anything sexually and fuck anyone they want without consequence. Women get punished for being sexual, and heaven help her if she wants to have a say in her own body or her autonomy.

in an MRA’s wet dream

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2014 4:04:16pm

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

What about the men who help create the unwanted pregnancy?

What about any children she already has?

Creating a culture of slut-shaming has really worked in the past —hasn’t it?

*gah*

“milk of semen” … it’s “godly”

Somebody mentioned it downstairs.

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 28, 2014 4:04:27pm

re: #135 Chez Ko Pe

“War on women? Pfffft! I dunno what you’re talking about! What war on women?”

HURR HURR!!! WHAT WAR ON WOMEN!!! LOOK OVER THEIR A MUSLIM HONOR KILLING!!!!! CHAPPAQUIDDICK!!!!! MONICA LEWINSKY1!!!!!! HURR HURR!!!!!

145 socrets  Sep 28, 2014 4:04:34pm

Yeah. I’ve always found the pro-life people to be a little too on the kooky stalkerish serial killer side for my tastes.

146 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:06:00pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

It really is excellent.

In my q

147 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 4:06:13pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

“milk of semen” … it’s “godly”

Somebody mentioned it downstairs.

Whoever that is should not become a barrista.

148 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:06:43pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

“milk of semen” … it’s “godly”

Somebody mentioned it downstairs.

It’s a Western theme as well.

149 FemNaziBitch  Sep 28, 2014 4:12:34pm

Here is it:

A man can kill a woman by keeping her pregnant.

Abortion on demand is her only defense.

Reproductive Rights are Civil Rights.

150 palomino  Sep 28, 2014 4:17:46pm

re: #115 lostlakehiker

I have to write very carefully here, and it would be nice if people would return the favor and read carefully. I carefully refrained from claiming that there was no country and no part of the US where abortion was illegal and the woman who got the abortion faced punishment. I wrote only that so far as I knew, they didn’t face execution.

Our NR author Kevin has crossed every last bridge with his opinion that they should be executed, and in so doing, he’s lost the company of even El Salvador and Mississippi. And that is kind of my point. His proposal has no meaningful backing anywhere and won’t gather any support from any quarter. And I reiterate my prediction that he’ll be sent packing from NR.

You wanna bet? Maybe so, I guess, this could have been suicide by twitter.

151 Lancelot Link  Sep 28, 2014 4:25:19pm

Not in the 21st century, but there has, indeed, been a “first-world” nation in which abortion was , as Williamson would like, a crime punishable by death. NAZI FUCKING GERMANY!

152 DobermanBoston  Sep 28, 2014 4:27:10pm

Some recent, unhinged Williamson:

The Rape Epidemic is a Fiction

153 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 4:27:50pm

re: #151 Lancelot Link

Not in the 21st century, but there has, indeed, been a “first-world” nation in which abortion was , as Williamson would like, a crime punishable by death. NAZI FUCKING GERMANY!

Their BFF, Vichy France, had their last execution in 1942.

en.wikipedia.org

154 palomino  Sep 28, 2014 4:35:06pm

On second thought, I doubt he’ll get fired. Derbyshire was fired after admitting openly that he is a racist. Quite a few pundits, like Williamson, have flirted with the idea of charging women and their docs with murder for their “participation” in an abortion. And I don’t think that’s usually a fireable offense.

155 DobermanBoston  Sep 28, 2014 4:37:33pm

re: #154 palomino

On second thought, I doubt he’ll get fired. Derbyshire was fired after admitting openly that he is a racist. Quite a few pundits, like Williamson, have flirted with the idea of charging women and their docs with murder for their “participation” in an abortion. And I don’t think that’s usually a fireable offense.

I think it’s more the execution, and particularly “hanging”, part of it that may not bode well for KDW.

156 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sep 28, 2014 5:10:07pm

So Burkian.

So Oakshottian.///////

Or whatever the hell these pricks think that the things coming out of their mouths sound like.

157 CriticalDragon1177  Sep 28, 2014 5:11:36pm
158 DodgerFan1988  Sep 28, 2014 5:17:01pm

Florida Republican congressman Cliff Stearns on the record calling for women who had abortions to be arrested and charged with 1st degree murder.
Youtube Video

159 Tomm JOnzz  Sep 28, 2014 5:20:54pm

my years-old take on this sort of thing:

http://tommjonzz.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/07/8687817-mississippi-initiative-26-rights-responsibilities

160 BongCrodny  Sep 28, 2014 5:22:27pm

Maybe National Review will shitcan Williamson — but it seems like a stretch to me to believe that the magazine that hired a plagiarist who stole stuff from them would find what Williamson said to be beyond the pale.

161 Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2014 5:56:01pm

re: #160 BongCrodny

Maybe National Review will shitcan Williamson — but it seems like a stretch to me to believe that the magazine that hired a plagiarist who stole stuff from them would find what Williamson said to be beyond the pale.

If National Review ever had a pale, it was burned for firewood in a cold winter in the 50s.

162 DobermanBoston  Sep 28, 2014 6:08:15pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

If National Review ever had a pale, it was burned for firewood in a cold winter in the 50s.

…at a Yale dormitory.

163 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 6:01:19am

Kevin Williamson just believes in Freedumb. Liberty. Less government. /

164 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 8:08:19am

re: #149 FemNaziBitch

Here is it:

A man can kill a woman by keeping her pregnant.

Abortion on demand is her only defense.

Reproductive Rights are Civil Rights.

QFT.

165 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 8:23:11am

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Listen to LLH. This is a total non-issue you pathetic, sensitive, libtard cock-fags. Senators like Rand Paul would never introduce something as insane as a fetal personhood bill. There’s no way a country like Kenya would sentence a nurse to death for taking part in an abortion. A US state like Georgia would never actually consider legislation that applied the death penalty to abortion. Actual Reverends like Michael Bray would never, ever write books like “A Time to Kill” entirely dedicated to the idea of legitimizing the killing of people involved in abortions.

All your concerns are silly and stupid and retarded and totally based on an imbalance of your hysterical humors. Lostlakehiker is a very serious commenter and not at all selling you a pile of conservative apologist horse shit and denial.

QFT, plus pure enjoyment.

166 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 8:37:33am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Ghost William Buckley jr raises an appraising eyebrow in purgatory.

Nice. Concise.


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