Creationist Ben Carson: The 2016 Elections Will Be Canceled Due to Anarchy

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Dr. Ben Carson is a complete lunatic; a hard core young Earth creationist who thinks America is becoming Nazi Germany and abortions are the same as human sacrifice, and who’s now warning that the country is on the brink of such massive anarchy that we’ll be forced to cancel the 2016 elections.

Carson: If in fact we continue to have all these decrees being made the way they’re being made, if in fact we don’t fight the kind of war that needs to be fought in order to really put and end to the threat that is brought on ISIS, if we continue along a pathway of financial irresponsibility, if we continue along a path of envy, greed, hatred, what happened with Occupy Wall Street will be a cakewalk compared to what will begin to happen in this country.

Colmes: What do you mean though when you say there won’t be an election in 2016?

Carson: There may be so much anarchy going on.

Colmes: Anarchy? You think really risk having an anarchic America to the point where elections may be put on hold or some kind of emergency is declared with such anarchy that there wouldn’t be a presidential election in a couple of years.

Carson: I don’t want to find out, I really don’t want to find out. I don’t want to continue down this pathway that we are going down. This pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party.

And this raving loon is considered one of the Republican Party’s front runners for the presidential nomination. A picture of a party that’s completely off the rails.

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143 comments
1 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 10:48:19am

It will be just like when Bush declared martial law and became President for Life!

2 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 10:50:01am

Brilliant. There’s so much anarchy, so much greed, financial ruin, debt, representatives not representing people only their party, that the conservatives will have NO CHOICE but to overthrow the existing, duly elected government before the 2016 elections, in which a democratic, and Democratic, majorities might elect the president.

Can’t you SEE?

This skips the whole tedius, albeit constitutional, mechanisms for solving political problems, elections, impeachment, the like. We must destroy the American government in order to save it!

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3 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 10:50:31am

He really is a bozo.

4 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 10:51:21am

That damned 47% is gonna ruin us all…
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5 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 10:52:45am
if we continue along a path of envy, greed, hatred, what happened with Occupy Wall Street will be a cakewalk compared to what will begin to happen in this country.

Occupy Wall Street. Saul Alinsky. Bill Ayers. University professors. Lefist elites in their coastal enclaves. Common Core. The people and groups destroying America as we speak. ////

6 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 30, 2014 10:52:56am

I sure wouldn’t want him anywhere near my brain.

7 Lidane  Sep 30, 2014 10:53:24am

Weren’t the far left kooks babbling that Dubya was going to cancel the 2008 elections so he could be Dictator For Life?

This seems to be a common reaction among dipshits of all political stripes.

8 b.d.  Sep 30, 2014 10:54:06am

So much anarchy going on

As opposed to the regular amount of anarchy?

Obama will literally do anything to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House.

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9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 10:54:06am

re: #5 Bulworth

Occupy Wall Street. Saul Alinsky. Bill Ayers. University professors. Lefist elites in their coastal enclaves. Common Core. The people and groups destroying America as we speak. ////

UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 30, 2014 10:55:04am

Scare tactics. Republican leaders don’t ever actually say something will happen, they frame their words in a way that protects them from any responsibility.
Cowards. At least have the character to take responsibility for your words.

11 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 10:55:07am
This pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party.

Perfectly tailored word salad for the non-bipartisan types.

See, I’m not criticizing any one political party (Democrats). I’m just a real honest, truth telling, non-bi-partisan real American who loves America!

12 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 10:55:39am

re: #7 Lidane

Weren’t the far left kooks babbling that Dubya was going to cancel the 2008 elections so he could be Dictator For Life?

This seems to be a common reaction among dipshits of all political stripes.

Well before that, the wingnuts were afraid that the dispute over the 2000 election would lead to Clinton declaring himself President For Life.

Actually the only POTUS who really wanted to be President For Life was…

13 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 10:55:50am

It’s not the first time that he’s made this claim. Dr. Carson, I can assure you that the reason you won’t be elected president has nothing to do with anarchy disrupting the elections.

RBS

14 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 10:57:13am

But I guess Dr. Ben Carson doesn’t have any worries about real American patriot Americans like Clive Bundy and his militia, or the people behind Operation American Spring, or the Sovereign Citiziens and Oath Keepers who want to undermine the government.

15 BadExampleMan  Sep 30, 2014 10:57:42am

I’ll be fair. I half-expected the same kind of thing in late ‘07. Or, well, to be precise, it’s not that I expected it, it’s that I knew that if Cheney did launch a coup, no one in a position to meaningfully object would.

16 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 10:57:57am

re: #12 Pie-onist Overlord

Well before that, the wingnuts were afraid that the dispute over the 2000 election would lead to Clinton declaring himself President For Life.

Actually the only POTUS who really wanted to be President For Life was…

That was really pathetic of Reagan especially since his advisers knew he was clearly losing his memory and would have been over 80 if his hypothetical third term ended. Honestly, I don’t like the term limit. I understand why we have it but at the same time, I do feel that it would have really hurt the country had it existed in 1940. FDR was arguably the only person who could be president during that time that could have led us to victory during WWII. And as for FDR, he planned on resigning as soon as WWII was won. Never got to see that.

17 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 30, 2014 10:58:23am

re: #7 Lidane

Yes, but the difference is, you did not see a bunch of Democratic leaders publically supporting this belief.

18 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 10:58:25am

re: #15 BadExampleMan

I’ll be fair. I half-expected the same kind of thing in late ‘07. Or, well, to be precise, it’s not that I expected it, it’s that I knew that if Cheney did launch a coup, no one in a position to meaningfully object would.

Difference though is you’re not a prospective presidential candidate.

19 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 10:59:26am

re: #17 I Stand With Big Sodomy!

Yes, but the difference is, you did not see a bunch of Democratic leaders publically supporting this belief.

And there’s this too. None of Obama, Hillary, Edwards, or any of the Dem candidates were claiming that Bush was going to make himself dictator for life. The other thing and this is why Carson is a Grade A moron is he doesn’t even bother thinking that Obama may want to leave office. I have no doubt that Obama is tired of wingnut morons like Carson likening him to Hitler.

20 b.d.  Sep 30, 2014 10:59:39am

Can the wingnuts please decide whether Obama is a tyrannical dictator who will never give up his throne or a lazy slackard who is just mailing it in before he can suck up monies from the speaking circuit?

21 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:01:34am

re: #20 b.d.

Can the wingnuts please decide whether Obama is a tyrannical dictator who will never give up his throne or a lazy slackard who is just mailing it in before he can suck up monies from the speaking circuit?

And the rules say that you can’t be a tyrannical slacker? Seems like a perfect combination, you don’t do anything, just order everybody else to carry out your wishes.

Wonder if there is a category for that on Linked-In? Might be a perfect fit for me.

RBS

22 b.d.  Sep 30, 2014 11:01:35am

re: #7 Lidane

Weren’t the far left kooks babbling that Dubya was going to cancel the 2008 elections so he could be Dictator For Life?

This seems to be a common reaction among dipshits of all political stripes.

Markos openly mocked and laughed at the people who were claiming such over at kos, wingnut sites gin this stuff up.

23 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:02:56am

re: #22 b.d.

Markos openly mocked and laughed at the people who were claiming such over at kos, wingnut sites gin this stuff up.

That’s a good point too.

24 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:03:26am

Anarchy will cancel elections?

Only elections that we had cancelled in these parts was the 2001 NYC primary elections that took place on 9/11 - cancelled due to the attacks and rescheduled for a couple of weeks later.

We aren’t a failed state here in the US. Failing states hold elections all the time - countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq are able to hold elections with violence occurring. Iraqis even held their first elections that mattered in generations with violence occurring all around the country and millions turned.

So, Carson thinks that we’re exceptional (American exceptionalism F-yeah!) but we couldn’t hold elections because of anarchy.

25 b.d.  Sep 30, 2014 11:03:39am

re: #21 RealityBasedSteve

And the rules say that you can’t be a tyrannical slacker? Seems like a perfect combination, you don’t do anything, just order everybody else to carry out your wishes.

Wonder if there is a category for that on Linked-In? Might be a perfect fit for me.

RBS

I’m made myself dictator for life but my heart really isn’t in it.

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26 Ace-o-aces  Sep 30, 2014 11:03:54am

Colmes’ next question should have been:
“Dr. Carson, it there a medication your supposed to be taking that you forgot this morning?”

Anarchy? Really!? This is one of the least violent periods in American history, but the RWNJs act like were 20 minutes from Thunderdome.

27 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 11:04:22am

re: #20 b.d.

Can the wingnuts please decide whether Obama is a tyrannical dictator who will never give up his throne or a lazy slackard who is just mailing it in before he can suck up monies from the speaking circuit?

HURR HURR OBAMA IS TEH TYRANT FOR TAKING AWAY ARE GUNS ANY MINUTE NOW BUT HE IS A WUSS GIRLY GIRL COMPARED TO TEH MANLY PUTIN!!!!1!!!

28 Lidane  Sep 30, 2014 11:04:41am

re: #22 b.d.

Markos openly mocked and laughed at the people who were claiming such over at kos, wingnut sites gin this stuff up.

Well, true. Markos is great for punching holes in the far left kooks.

I still remember him telling the far left to sit down and STFU when they went on an ideological purity jihad on his blog. He told them he was more interested in winning than being a rigid ideologue.

29 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:04:47am

re: #21 RealityBasedSteve

Kim Jong Un, is that you? Tyrannical slacker with gout? Or broken ankles? Or mystery ailment diagnosed with no evidence or consultation?

30 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:05:10am

re: #24 lawhawk

Anarchy will cancel elections?

Only elections that we had cancelled in these parts was the 2001 NYC primary elections that took place on 9/11 - cancelled due to the attacks and rescheduled for a couple of weeks later.

We aren’t a failed state here in the US. Failing states hold elections all the time - countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq are able to hold elections with violence occurring. Iraqis even held their first elections that mattered in generations with violence occurring all around the country and millions turned.

So, Carson thinks that we’re exceptional (American exceptionalism F-yeah!) but we couldn’t hold elections because of anarchy.

That’s because Dr. Carson is a Grade-A with an advanced degree in Derp from CPAC University. America fuck yeah! But we won’t be able to have an election in 2016. Really though if wingnuts seriously think this guy is their ticket to the WH, I’d laugh. He’d be a joke if he was running for a local office. He’s an even bigger joke if he thinks he can be president of this country with his paranoia.

31 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:06:44am

“Values” voters 24% more reactionary than last year:

Cruz first. Carson second. Sound familiar?

If it does, it’s because for the second year in a row, the duo clinched the top two spots for the presidential choice vote in the buzzy Values Voter Summit straw poll.

Last year, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas beat Dr. Ben Carson, a renowned neurosurgeon and Fox News contributor, by a whopping 29%. On Saturday, Cruz beat Carson just by 5%.
cnn.com

32 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:08:10am

Mr. Carson, you do realize that the US held midterm, primary, and presidential elections during the War of Southern Secession, right? That Abraham Lincoln was reelected despite the secessionists in the South fighting an insurrection against the Union to in order to preserve slavery and their way of life?

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 11:09:10am

re: #32 lawhawk

Mr. Carson, you do realize that the US held midterm, primary, and presidential elections during the War of Southern Secession, right? That Abraham Lincoln was reelected despite the secessionists in the South fighting an insurrection against the Union to in order to preserve slavery and their way of life?

He is not an expert on anything except for separating conjoined twins.

34 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2014 11:09:48am

They just keep moving the goalposts:

- in 2009 it was that the country couldn’t function with a black President
- in 2010 it was that Obama would cancel the midterms
- in 2012 it was that Obama would seize total power and cancel the election
- Since 2012 it’s been Obama is going to try and win a third term.

And you just watch. When nothing happens in 2016 they will start saying Hillary will go on an estrogen fueled rage and take over the country now.

35 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2014 11:10:35am

re: #31 jaunte

“Values” voters 24% more reactionary than last year:

Maybe we should start calling it a strawman poll?

36 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:11:18am
“…Poll participants at the Values Voter Summit were also asked to rank their top three most important issues. To little surprise amongst the conservative crowd, protecting religious liberty was deemed the most important issue by an overwhelming margin, while abortion and national security followed as the next most important issues.”
cnn.com

1. Controlling people who don’t believe as we do
2. Controlling women
3. Controlling people who don’t look like us

37 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:11:23am

re: #31 jaunte

“Values” voters 24% more reactionary than last year:

They’re going to keep on growing more and more reactionary as the country as a whole rejects their crazy.

38 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:12:26am

re: #36 jaunte

1. Controlling people who don’t believe as we do
2. Controlling women
3. Controlling people who don’t look like us

“Protecting religious liberty” i.e. allowing a bigot to deny someone business because they’re gay but prohibiting a church from marrying a gay couple. They’re so full of shit. They’re not for religious liberty at all. They’re for their idea of Christianity being the rule of law in our country.

39 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:14:43am
“…I don’t want to continue down this pathway that we are going down. This pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party.”

What’s that smell?

40 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 11:15:19am
41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:15:46am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

They just keep moving the goalposts:

- in 2009 it was that the country couldn’t function with a black President
- in 2010 it was that Obama would cancel the midterms
- in 2012 it was that Obama would seize total power and cancel the election
- Since 2012 it’s been Obama is going to try and win a third term.

And you just watch. When nothing happens in 2016 they will start saying Hillary will go on an estrogen fueled rage and take over the country now.

She can’t because she’s a granny now…

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42 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 11:15:51am
43 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 11:16:20am

re:
#36

And BENGHAZI!! IRS targeting!!!!!!11

44 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:16:33am

re: #40 Kragar

Carson then lamented a few negative aspects of history included in the course framework like “a whole section on slavery and how evil we are,” Japanese internment camps, and “how we wiped out American Indians with no mercy.”

“I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”

That Ben Carson, he really knows people.

45 sagehen  Sep 30, 2014 11:17:27am

re: #12 Pie-onist Overlord

Well before that, the wingnuts were afraid that the dispute over the 2000 election would lead to Clinton declaring himself President For Life.

Actually the only POTUS who really wanted to be President For Life was…

FDR was president for life…

46 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:17:47am
47 Varek Raith  Sep 30, 2014 11:17:50am

re: #40 Kragar

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As someone who finished that course in 2001 I say, eh???

48 nines09  Sep 30, 2014 11:18:30am

Another sane voice leading the Republican Rebranding Campaign…..Right into the bridge abutment. At a very high rate of speed I may add. Gone, baby, gone.

49 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:19:38am

re: #44 jaunte

Ahistorical. Amoral.

That’s the “modern” conservative “movement”. They ignore actual history, actual facts, and logic. They invent their own history and pseudoscience and then proclaim that this is the one true belief system.

It’s nuts.

50 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:19:47am

re: #40 Kragar

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Really? He’s an even bigger freak sandwich than I thought then. Hey asshole, talking critically about your own country’s history is a good thing. It’s how we learn from our mistakes. Maybe you would prefer we be more like Japan that whitewashes the bad parts of our history to sastify rapid nationalists like yourself. Man Carson’s an embarrassment to anyone with a brain so naturally VVS loves him.

51 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 11:20:18am

re: #45 sagehen

FDR was president for life…

So was William Henry Harrison

52 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:22:55am

re: #49 lawhawk

Ahistorical. Amoral.

That’s the “modern” conservative “movement”. They ignore actual history, actual facts, and logic.

Case in point:

53 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:22:58am

I had to go off on somebody on face book who kept talking about being a “Values Voter”. I kept asking “Are you saying that people who don’t believe as you do have no values?, are your values the only ones that should be applied? If I have no values, why am I not causing chaos in the streets?” I think I’ve been de-friended. no biggie.

RBS

54 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:23:10am

Carson is a fucking imbecile. Really what he gets from a history textbook that talks critically about slavery and how we treated the native Americans that the kids will want to join ISIS? And frankly I have a very hard actually impossible time believing that a textbook would only have two paragraphs on George Washington and MLK. And secondly slavery is part of our history. I know fuckwads like Carson want to ignore it but the fact of the matter is the hypocrisy of the founders on the slavery issue is as much part of our history as the Declaration of Independence and Constitution itself. That Thomas Jefferson could write “All men are created equally” yet being a slave owner is part of our history. It’s not “bashing us”, it’s talking candidly about a big part of why the country is what it is.

55 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:23:25am

re: #52 jaunte

Case in point:

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Obama on Rick Wiles: Who?

56 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:23:59am

re: #52 jaunte

Case in point:

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You can do that when you’re a tyrannical slacker. Persecute somebody for laws you never got around to passing. Great gig.

RBS

57 nkdee  Sep 30, 2014 11:24:12am

“There is so much anarchy going on…”

Do you mean like where Allen West suggests that Army Generals ignore the orders of Obama? Anarchy like THAT, Ben?

58 sagehen  Sep 30, 2014 11:24:28am

re: #24 lawhawk

Anarchy will cancel elections?

Only elections that we had cancelled in these parts was the 2001 NYC primary elections that took place on 9/11 - cancelled due to the attacks and rescheduled for a couple of weeks later.

We aren’t a failed state here in the US. Failing states hold elections all the time - countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq are able to hold elections with violence occurring. Iraqis even held their first elections that mattered in generations with violence occurring all around the country and millions turned.

So, Carson thinks that we’re exceptional (American exceptionalism F-yeah!) but we couldn’t hold elections because of anarchy.

We had elections, right on schedule, in 1864.

59 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 11:25:18am

re:
#53

I think I’ve been de-friended. no biggie.

Just think of the future derp you’ll be sparing yourself without this ‘values voter’.

60 KerFuFFler  Sep 30, 2014 11:25:21am

re: #20 b.d.

Can the wingnuts please decide whether Obama is a tyrannical dictator who will never give up his throne or a lazy slackard who is just mailing it in before he can suck up monies from the speaking circuit?

Both and neither!

Magical thinking works wonders…

61 aagcobb  Sep 30, 2014 11:26:39am

re: #15 BadExampleMan

I’ll be fair. I half-expected the same kind of thing in late ‘07. Or, well, to be precise, it’s not that I expected it, it’s that I knew that if Cheney did launch a coup, no one in a position to meaningfully object would.

I’m sorry, that is just moonbat silly. Even Cheney wasn’t nuts enough to do that, and even if he was, everyone would’ve objected.

62 thecommodore  Sep 30, 2014 11:26:50am

re: #20 b.d.

Can the wingnuts please decide whether Obama is a tyrannical dictator who will never give up his throne or a lazy slackard who is just mailing it in before he can suck up monies from the speaking circuit?

You forgot “too stupid to put two words together without a teleprompter. “

63 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 11:27:40am

re:
#57

Do you mean like where Allen West suggests that Army Generals ignore the orders of Obama? Anarchy like THAT, Ben?

No, not THAT kind of anarchy. The kind of anarchy where Democrats still hold the presidency and the Senate after an election!

/

64 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:27:52am

For the first generation or so of Americans, all they knew was a society that permitted slavery. Ignoring slavery’s role in our history is not only revisionist, it”s a disservice to any student of history. How are we supposed to understand what motivated Abraham Lincoln and other opponents of slavery if we can’t talk critically about how slavery was not only permitted in the Constitution but practiced by our founding fathers. That’s not to say I think Jefferson was evil or like Hitler but he was a slave owner. And you can’t hide from that. You can’t hide from that Jefferson would write about liberty but yet own human beings and refused to free them. You can’t talk about how America is the land of opportunity and ignore how millions of American Indians were killed. I love my country but I’ll be damned if our history is presented the way people like Dr. Carson and David Barton want it presented which is America Fuck Yeah and the Bible Fuck Yeah.

65 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 30, 2014 11:29:26am

re: #49 lawhawk

Ahistorical. Amoral.

That’s the “modern” conservative “movement”. They ignore actual history, actual facts, and logic. They invent their own history and pseudoscience and then proclaim that this is the one true belief system.

It’s nuts.

Christie/Walker 2016 - We can “fix” anything!
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66 aagcobb  Sep 30, 2014 11:29:59am

re: #24 lawhawk

Anarchy will cancel elections?

Only elections that we had cancelled in these parts was the 2001 NYC primary elections that took place on 9/11 - cancelled due to the attacks and rescheduled for a couple of weeks later.

We aren’t a failed state here in the US. Failing states hold elections all the time - countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq are able to hold elections with violence occurring. Iraqis even held their first elections that mattered in generations with violence occurring all around the country and millions turned.

So, Carson thinks that we’re exceptional (American exceptionalism F-yeah!) but we couldn’t hold elections because of anarchy.

Double think. America is the greatest country evah! Except when its teetering on the brink of collapse due to insolvency because its just like tiny, poverty stricken Greece.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:30:23am

And Benghazi is spelled wrong…

68 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:31:04am

re: #66 aagcobb

Double think. America is the greatest country evah! Except when its teetering on the brink of collapse due to insolvency because its just like tiny, poverty stricken Greece.

America is great and Obama doesn’t appreciate that BUT we’re also doomed because Obama’s okay with gays marrying, the right to choose, and women being able to accuse men of rape.

69 Schadenboner  Sep 30, 2014 11:31:30am

Lawyers are cautioned never to attempt to represent themselves.

Sadly, no one explained to Dr. Carson that the same rule applies to neurosurgeons.

70 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:31:56am

They want to Bowdlerize the history to such a point that it no longer resembles facts. Funny, since on some areas where there really is no controversy, they are all about “Teach the Controversy”.

RBS

71 Varek Raith  Sep 30, 2014 11:32:07am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Benghazi is spelled wrong…

MORANS!

72 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:33:06am

Sorry for the OT, but the media turnout is rather funny. No, this isn’t Yellowstone or Yosemite. It’s Ridgewood NJ where there’s a bear jam as media outlets have descended on the town because of a bear near a school that required the school to go on lockdown.

73 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:33:13am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Benghazi is spelled wrong…

And it looks like they used Comic Sans.

RBS

74 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:35:39am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…On July 19, 2014, a team of TEA Party Patriots renovated the billboard on Hwy. 180 south. Several people had observed that the 4’ x 8’ sign we originally installed was not large enough to be easily read by the moving traffic. The team extended that billboard to 16’ long and now it allows large lettering that can be easily read.”
(1pg. pdf)

75 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:36:07am

I’ll say it though. Anyone who still buys that Jefferson and the other founders were “reluctant slave owners” is a dummy. Them being slaveholders doesn’t invalidate what they did and the system of government they set up but it does show you that our country was founded with contradictions. I mean come on many of us have a parent or grandparent who was alive when women were granted the right to vote. Women’s suffrage isn’t even a century old and African Americans in the South have really only had it for not even a half century. You learn history by realizing that your nation’s leaders were real men and women not secular saints who could do no wrong and that discussion of their wrongs and contradictions is akin to recruiting for ISIS.

76 nines09  Sep 30, 2014 11:36:26am

re: #72 lawhawk

Shouldn’t this be where Bryan Fischer comes running down the street screaming “KILL IT!!!!!” ?

77 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:39:18am

re: #76 nines09

No, he’d be stuck in his bear bunker shaking uncontrollably.

Not unlike his daily demonstration of derp.

78 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:39:58am

re: #74 jaunte

ARGH…. Fully justified. nothing justifies that. I’m the worst in the world at visual / graphic layout, but that makes my eyes bleed. a lot.

RBS

79 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:40:41am

Fischer is a Sasha Baron Cohen character right? I mean the fear of bears, the using of the existence of gay Nazis as rationale for persecuting gays, claiming that saving people “feminizes” the Congressional Medal of Honor, and saying that bacon in restaurants means we’re a Christian nation. Well done Sasha.

80 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:41:25am

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

Considering a regular billboard is 48 feet wide, I don’t think they gained much from doubling their sign’s size to 16 feet wide. You’d have to pull off the highway to read it.

81 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:41:34am

re: #74 jaunte

The “Tea Party Patriots” have a design for our country, and it involves typos, unfortunate typography and bad layout. Exceptional bad layout.

RBS

82 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 11:42:00am

re:
#67

And VOTER FRAUD!!!!111

83 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2014 11:42:35am

84 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:42:42am

Voter fraud, GOP/TP speak for “We lost so therefore it was stolen.”

85 Lidane  Sep 30, 2014 11:42:57am

Coherent thought, how the fuck does it work?

Ben Carson: AP History Would Make Kids Want To ‘Sign Up For ISIS’ (VIDEO)

“I am a little shocked quite frankly looking at the AP course in American history that’s being taught in high schools across out country right now,” Carson said. “There’s only two paragraphs in there about George Washington. George Washington! Little or nothing about Dr. Martin Luther King.”

Carson then lamented a few negative aspects of history included in the course framework like “a whole section on slavery and how evil we are,” Japanese internment camps, and “how we wiped out American Indians with no mercy.”

“I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS. I mean, this is what we’re doing to the young people in our nation,” he said. “We have got to stop crucifying ourselves. Have we made mistakes as a nation? Of course we have. Why? Because we’re people. And all people make mistakes.”

86 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 11:43:08am

300 articles! Read them all and you will be convinced! Or not.

87 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 30, 2014 11:43:11am
88 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:43:19am

Very anarchy. Much petard.

89 thecommodore  Sep 30, 2014 11:43:45am

re: #27 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR OBAMA IS TEH TYRANT FOR TAKING AWAY ARE GUNS ANY MINUTE NOW BUT HE IS A WUSS GIRLY GIRL COMPARED TO TEH MANLY PUTIN!!!!1!!!

He’s a wuss girly girl while also being a ruthless ideological dictator. He’s a blithering idiot without a teleprompter, while also being cunning and narcissistic, with secret plans to take our guns and turn cities into giant concentration camps.

He is truly evil, and a completely incompetent affirmative action project.

He’s a MARXIST and a Fascist at the same time, at a time when corporate profits and stock indexes are at record highs.

You have to give Obama credit for managing to be multiple diametrically opposed things at once.

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:44:47am

re: #87 NJDhockeyfan

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I mentioned that downstairs.
One student shot, non-life-threatening.
Shooter fled immediately and police are still searching.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 11:45:12am

Fucking tax cuts, how do they work?
This meme makes no fucking sense, at least not to normal people==>

92 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:45:41am

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

300 articles! Read them all and you will be convinced! Or not.

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No thanks Matt, you’re the actual fascist here.

93 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 30, 2014 11:46:20am

re: #89 thecommodore

He’s a wuss girly girl while also being a ruthless ideological dictator. He’s a blithering idiot without a teleprompter, while also being cunning and narcissistic, with secret plans to take our guns and turn cities into giant concentration camps.

He is truly evil, and a completely incompetent affirmative action project.

He’s a MARXIST and a Fascist at the same time, at a time when corporate profits and stock indexes are at record highs.

You have to give Obama credit for managing to be multiple diametrically opposed things at once.

He’s also a floor wax and a delicious dessert topping.

RBS

94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:47:30am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Fucking tax cuts, how do they work?

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was that before or after Bush raised taxes?

95 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:47:41am

re: #89 thecommodore

He’s a wuss girly girl while also being a ruthless ideological dictator. He’s a blithering idiot without a teleprompter, while also being cunning and narcissistic, with secret plans to take our guns and turn cities into giant concentration camps.

He is truly evil, and a completely incompetent affirmative action project.

He’s a MARXIST and a Fascist at the same time, at a time when corporate profits and stock indexes are at record highs.

You have to give Obama credit for managing to be multiple diametrically opposed things at once.

Image: commienazis.jpg

96 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:47:52am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Cherrypicking a two year slice of data, how does it work?

In FY 2001, tax revenue in dollars was $1,991.1 billion. For FY 2002 - the first budget of the Bush administration, which went into effect after President George W. Bush signed tax cuts into law in June 2001 - revenue dropped to $1,853.1 billion.

Bush signed two more tax cuts into law over the next two years. In FY 2003, revenue dropped further, to $1,782.3 billion - about a 10-percent reduction from two years earlier.

This drop in tax revenue occurred even as economic activity - the nation’s GDP - was continually rising, according to Bureau of Economic Analysis data.

Revenues then increased for four years - from $1,880.1 billion in FY 2004 to $2,568 billion in FY 2007 - before sliding to $2,524 billion in FY 2008, and then dropping further to $2,105 billion in FY 2009 as the recession exploded.cbsnews.com

97 HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2014 11:49:09am

I’d like Barber to name one fascist society where gays were allowed to marry and have the same rights as heterosexual couples because I’ve got plenty of examples of fascist societies doing the total opposite and actually oppressing gay people. But then again like his pal Bryan, he’s a sexually repressed freak who can’t stand to see people who are comfortable with their sexuality.

98 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 11:49:27am
99 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:49:35am
In FY2001 spending was $1,862.8 billion; by FY2009 spending was at $3,517.7 billion - more than $1.4 billion more than what was collected in taxes.

Analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice claims that the Bush era tax cuts resulted in $1,918.9 billion in lower revenue from FY2001 through FY2009, and that the total cost of implementing the cuts (including interest payments on debt) was $2,141 billion.
cbsnews.com

100 Saint Stephen  Sep 30, 2014 11:50:37am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

And don’t forget - Obama’s still gonna take away all our guns!!!!!!!!!

101 Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2014 11:51:32am

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

300 articles! Read them all and you will be convinced! Or not.

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Fortunately, it takes only one or two articles to understand the term “asshole propagandist”.

102 Bulworth  Sep 30, 2014 11:52:06am

There’s been at least one gun shooting at a school today. I wonder if this is what Dr. Ben Carson means by ‘anarchy’.

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:52:13am
104 Saint Stephen  Sep 30, 2014 11:52:40am

re: #93 RealityBasedSteve

LMAO!!!!!!

105 Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2014 11:52:43am

re: #88 jaunte

Very anarchy. Much petard.

Always blame the petard on the doge.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:53:00am

re: #102 Bulworth

There’s been at least one gun shooting at a school today. I wonder if this is what Dr. Ben Carson means by ‘anarchy’.

There was a school shooting in North Carolina this morning as well.

107 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:53:05am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s also instructive that the graphic picked out 2004 and 2006.

The Bush tax cuts started in 2001, they were expanded in 2003 and then again in 2004. When you look at those figures, you see a different picture (and not coincidentally, it’s the same game that climate change denialists use by cherry picking a couple of intermediate points to state no climate change when the trend is something else entirely).

taxpolicycenter.org

Bush took office with the feds pulling in more than they spent. That became annual deficits thereafter, in part because of the 9/11 attacks and subsequent recession. The recovery from that was paltry and the economic growth still didn’t rise back to the level pre-9/11.

108 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 11:53:30am

re: #105 Decatur Deb

I think I saw that scene in “10”

109 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 11:55:15am
110 sagehen  Sep 30, 2014 11:55:33am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Fucking tax cuts, how do they work?
This meme makes no fucking sense, at least not to normal people==>

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This is a LIE.

(but if you tell him that, he’ll block you, right?)

111 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 11:58:30am
112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 12:00:03pm

Fern Creek HS has 1,400 students. It’s going to take a while to get them all reunited with their parents.

113 jaunte  Sep 30, 2014 12:00:04pm

re: #109 lawhawk

Hands up, don’t scare the SWAT team.

114 Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2014 12:01:14pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

WATCH LIVE: Police searching for suspect after Fern Creek HS shooting:

Good time for an Open Carry demonstration.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 12:01:46pm

re: #113 jaunte

Hands up, don’t scare the SWAT team.

“Don’t shoot as long as you can see the whites of their skin!”

116 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2014 12:02:19pm
This pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party.

When Dr. Carson is right, he’s right, by golly. I’ve even heard that there are representatives who are actively working to deny health insurance to millions of Americans, extend further tax breaks to the wealthiest among us, and deprive legal voters of the franchise.

Irony is once again in the ICU.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 12:03:35pm

Here’s the other school shooting today:

1 student shot, 1 charged after shooting at Albemarle H.S.

STANLY COUNTY, N.C. — An Albemarle High School student was shot by another student during an argument at the school Tuesday morning, Stanly County authorities said.

Albemarle police said a male student was shot twice in the courtyard at the front of the school around 7:40 a.m. before classes started for the day.

Albemarle is in Stanly County, about 35 miles east of Charlotte.

118 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 12:03:49pm
119 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 30, 2014 12:04:36pm
120 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 30, 2014 12:04:49pm

Once you embiggen the graphic and see what he REALLY stands for, you will realize that he is a wild-eyed freaking insane person.

121 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2014 12:06:23pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paging Willie Horton!

122 freetoken  Sep 30, 2014 12:06:34pm

Speaking of Republican leading lights, Ron Paul provides plenty of fodder for RT:

Ron Paul: Secessionism is a ‘grand American tradition’

They are trumpeting Paul’s little rant about the glories of successionism from Sunday:

The possibility that people will break away from an oppressive government is one of the most effective checks on the growth of government. It is no coincidence that the transformation of America from a limited republic to a monolithic welfare-warfare state coincided with the discrediting of secession as an appropriate response to excessive government.

Nice little repackaging of the Civil War there.

123 CuriousLurker  Sep 30, 2014 12:09:20pm

Mental Health Break:

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 12:09:30pm

Sadly, we have many stupid and many “my vote won’t make any difference” voters in Kentucky who will believe this nonsense.

125 Lidane  Sep 30, 2014 12:10:12pm

re: #122 freetoken

Ron Paul and his idiot son are treasonous neo-Confederate assholes.

126 Schadenboner  Sep 30, 2014 12:13:32pm

re: #122 freetoken

Speaking of Republican leading lights, Ron Paul provides plenty of fodder for RT:

Ron Paul: Secessionism is a ‘grand American tradition’

They are trumpeting Paul’s little rant about the glories of successionism from Sunday:

Nice little repackaging of the Civil War there.

Really, it’s not difficult guys: pull out a penny and check if the president on it is Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis.

Determine which side of the succession debate won accordingly.

127 Kragar  Sep 30, 2014 12:14:29pm
128 stpaulbear  Sep 30, 2014 12:15:03pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Benghazi is spelled wrong…

Everybody else in town probably asked them to put up the little Tea Party sign on the main sign so that people reading the sign would know that not everyone in the town was that stupid.

129 teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2014 12:19:05pm

Ben Carson should stick to neurosurgery. He’s awful in politics, just awful.

130 teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2014 12:21:03pm

Speaking of politics, this is a surreal interview with Cory Gardner who’s running for the U.S. Senate in my state of Colorado. A true GOP weasel.

131 freetoken  Sep 30, 2014 12:22:17pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

I thinks Carson’s doing a pretty good job, at what he is attempting. Here’s a man whose extensive education would lead him to believe modern things about the world, but in order for him to pursue a second career in power politics he’s been able to successfully redesign himself into a backwards ignorant hick, and thus garner considerable support among the know-nothings.

He’s doing better than I could do.

132 lawhawk  Sep 30, 2014 12:27:52pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

My head hurts.

Mortgages? Direct your ire at the banks, not Obama. Obama got Congress to pass relief for some homeowners who were underwater with HAMP and HARP.

Paycheck to paycheck? Talk to the Koch folks who think that the key to success is cutting taxes on the rich, eliminating minimum wages, and that the benefits will eventually trickle down. All efforts to improve the lives of low wage workers have been blocked by the GOP - even though an increase to the minimum wage would reduce federal benefits expended on SNAP and other safety net programs.

High gas prices? Prices have dropped nationally, and the President has no effect on gas prices. Supply and demand does - and if China starts driving a whole lot more, then the price will go up as the supply lags.

For a bunch of folks who crow about being economics geniuses, they sure show their ignorance.

133 freetoken  Sep 30, 2014 12:29:30pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Remember, it’s the state with AiG and their Creation Museum and wanna-be Noah’s Ark.

134 Frenchy  Sep 30, 2014 1:15:11pm

How can a renowned physician actually think these thoughts, much less think it’s a good idea to say them out loud? Is he actually this crazy, and this much of a moron? Or is it just intellectually dishonest pandering, grifting, etc.? I can’t quite get a read on this guy.

135 funky chicken  Sep 30, 2014 1:43:32pm

Ben Carson the neurosurgeon is way too smart to believe the things said by Ben Carson the political commentator.

136 funky chicken  Sep 30, 2014 1:45:10pm

re: #134 Frenchy

I believe it’s the latter.

137 No Country For Old Haters  Sep 30, 2014 1:48:44pm

re: #134 Frenchy

How can a renowned physician actually think these thoughts, much less think it’s a good idea to say them out loud? Is he actually this crazy, and this much of a moron? Or is it just intellectually dishonest pandering, grifting, etc.? I can’t quite get a read on this guy.

Could be a brain tumor. You’d think a neurosurgeon would seek help when the bizarre thoughts started.

138 urbanmeemaw  Sep 30, 2014 1:58:01pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Benghazi is spelled wrong…

Well, PBO is part Irish so, yes. IRA is also a scandal.

139 De Kolta Chair  Sep 30, 2014 2:18:11pm

IF WE CONTINUE ALONG A PATH OF BREAD CRUMBS WE’RE GOING TO END UP AT A GINGERBREAD HOUSE AND GETTING BAKED AND EATEN BY A WITCH!!!!

140 lostlakehiker  Sep 30, 2014 2:45:23pm

re: #132 lawhawk

My head hurts.

Mortgages? Direct your ire at the banks, not Obama. Obama got Congress to pass relief for some homeowners who were underwater with HAMP and HARP.

Paycheck to paycheck? Talk to the Koch folks who think that the key to success is cutting taxes on the rich, eliminating minimum wages, and that the benefits will eventually trickle down. All efforts to improve the lives of low wage workers have been blocked by the GOP - even though an increase to the minimum wage would reduce federal benefits expended on SNAP and other safety net programs.

High gas prices? Prices have dropped nationally, and the President has no effect on gas prices. Supply and demand does - and if China starts driving a whole lot more, then the price will go up as the supply lags.

For a bunch of folks who crow about being economics geniuses, they sure show their ignorance.

Through door 1, there is an increase in the earned income tax credit. Benefits go to the poor, and only to the poor. There is no shred of a possibility of a disincentive to employers.

Through door 2, there is an increase in the minimum wage. 30% of the money goes to workers in families bringing down more than 150% of the poverty level, or 200%, or whatever. Something like that. Some jobs are lost; nobody can say exactly how many but maybe for every 3 workers who benefit there’s one minimum wage job that ceases to exist, replaced by technology or just priced out of existence.

Why the enthusiasm for door 2? Is door 1 just invisible? Maybe because door 2 includes the functional equivalent of a tax on employers of minimum wage workers, and any tax is a good tax. But that’s not really true. The obligation to shore up the finances of the deserving poor falls not only on employers of minimum wage workers, but on society generally. Extending the earned income tax credit could be paid for by a very modest across the board increase in the federal income tax. You could more than cover it with a surcharge: pay an additional 1% of whatever your tax bill works out to for the year.

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2014 2:49:20pm

re: #140 lostlakehiker

hahahahahaaaa…
Economics according to Americans for Prosperity and Club for Growth.
Koch brothers are getting their money’s worth out of you.

142 goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2014 2:59:26pm

re: #140 lostlakehiker

Through door 2, there is an increase in the minimum wage. 30% of the money goes to workers in families bringing down more than 150% of the poverty level, or 200%, or whatever. Something like that.

More than anything else this illustrates how abysmally low the federal poverty level is. A single person making $23,340 is making 200% of the poverty level. A family of four making $47,700 is making 200% of the poverty level. If 30% of a minimum wage increase goes to those kinds of people then more power to them, they need all the help they can get.

143 BadExampleMan  Oct 1, 2014 12:29:35am

re: #61 aagcobb

I’m sorry, that is just moonbat silly. Even Cheney wasn’t nuts enough to do that, and even if he was, everyone would’ve objected.

Really? Because that is exactly what fucking happened in 2000. So it’s not like there’s no precedent.


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