CDC Getting 800 Calls a Day About Possible Ebola Cases - and They’re All False Alarms

Can we calm down, please?
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Today during a press briefing, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said the CDC has been receiving about 800 calls a day from hospitals and other sources about possible cases of Ebola — and to date, they’ve all been false alarms.

As of today, Liberian Thomas Eric Duncan remains the only confirmed case of Ebola in the US. The last word we have on Duncan is that his condition was downgraded to “critical,” and he’s been placed on a ventilator.

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149 comments
1 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:36:51pm

Apparently some news outlet said Duncan had died this morning and FR is all exercised about why the MSM is ignoring this momentous event.

2 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 2:37:32pm

People aren’t going to calm down, its not in their nature. Especially not when enough of the media figures it can make money scaring them (Fox News especially).

3 darthstar  Oct 5, 2014 2:37:32pm

You’ll want this video clip, Charles.

4 The Mountain That Blogs  Oct 5, 2014 2:37:35pm

I bet the people who intubated him were really nervous.

5 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 2:38:26pm

re: #3 darthstar

You’ll want this video clip, Charles.

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That was the topic of the previous thread, DS.

6 darthstar  Oct 5, 2014 2:38:54pm

re: #1 calochortus

Apparently some news outlet said Duncan had died this morning and FR is all exercised about why the MSM is ignoring this momentous event.

Ebola Truthers…opportunity is knocking. How will we know the guy who says he’s Duncan and survived really is him? It could be a decoy! Duncan’s buried with Vince Foster.

7 darthstar  Oct 5, 2014 2:39:37pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

That was the topic of the previous thread, DS.

Well, indeed it was.

8 PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2014 2:39:37pm

That is because the television media is making a huge fuss and stirring up the public. I noticed in The Wall Street Journal and in The New York Times this news is on the front page but without the screaming the television news is using.

9 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:39:55pm

re: #6 darthstar

Or if he does die, it just shows they had the news first-before it happened.

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 2:40:10pm

I’m sure that it had NOTHING to do with CNN giving a list of ebola syptoms that were exactly the same as flu symptoms, but neglecting to mention the blood and other icky bits…

11 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:42:00pm

I should have called the CDC last weekend-I had some intestinal symptoms and a fever. What else could it be but ebola?!!!!!!

12 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 2:43:41pm

re: #9 calochortus

Or if he does die, it just shows they had the news first-before it happened.

I think its also that they want him dead. Otherwise in their minds he’ll likely stay in the US and “be just another mooching [n-word]!

Given that Mr. Duncan got sick because he tried to save a pregnant woman when no one else would, I say he’s welcome to stay if he lives. America needs brave men like that.

13 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 2:46:18pm

Again.

14 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 2:46:38pm

re: #1 calochortus

Apparently some news outlet said Duncan had died this morning and FR is all exercised about why the MSM is ignoring this momentous event.

That thread is nominally about Ebola but its really about race. And given that its Freep, its really ugly.

15 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:47:22pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

I wish he had been honest and told the folks at the hospital that he had been exposed to ebola. It would have saved a lot of time, possible infection of others, and maybe even his own life.

16 Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2014 2:48:50pm

Unreal.

17 PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2014 2:49:47pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Fear mongering.

18 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 2:49:54pm

re: #11 calochortus

I should have called the CDC last weekend-I had some intestinal symptoms and a fever. What else could it be but ebola?!!!!!!

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

19 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 2:50:33pm

re: #15 calochortus

I wish he had been honest and told the folks at the hospital that he had been exposed to ebola. It would have saved a lot of time, possible infection of others, and maybe even his own life.

True, but remember that where he comes from some hospitals are turning those suffering from Ebola away. So that does mitigate his actions to a notable degree in my eyes.

20 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:51:39pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

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Thanks, but having survived, I’m now immune and won’t need them.
Good luck with that marketing campaign though.

21 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:52:30pm

re: #17 PhillyPretzel

Fear mongering.

And damned unpleasant fear mongering too. (Of course, most fear mongering is unpleasant.)

22 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 2:53:55pm

At some point last night I ran out of beer. Damn you Ebola, damn you to hell!!!

23 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:54:16pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

True, but remember that where he comes from some hospitals are turning those suffering from Ebola away. So that does mitigate his actions to a notable degree in my eyes.

Perhaps, but I’m not up for making moral judgements one way or the other about people I don’t know. He is human, and thus prone to err.
I hope he survives.

24 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 5, 2014 2:54:28pm

Keep calm and gird up your loins.

25 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 2:54:33pm

re: #20 calochortus

Thanks, but having survived, I’m now immune and won’t need them.
Good luck with that marketing campaign though.

26 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 2:56:49pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Oh. There’s an aspect I hadn’t considered. I’ll get right on ordering a bunch.

27 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 2:58:11pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Unreal.

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So there are more direct flights from West Africa to Mexico than to the US?

28 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 2:58:58pm

I bet if I set up an e-commerce website I could sell these shits for real.

30 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 2:59:41pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

From that highly speculative, to put it politely “news article”:

Immigrants from West African countries have entered the US illegally, according to Chris Cabrera with the National Border Patrol Council.

“Not too long ago we did catch some people, I believe, from Liberia,” he said.

He doesn’t name a date and doesn’t know where those “some people” came from. Sad to think that the NBPC is a freaking union.

31 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 3:05:31pm
32 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 5, 2014 3:06:19pm

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s with the glasses?

33 JustMark  Oct 5, 2014 3:07:12pm

re: #32 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

What’s with the glasses?

He spent all day looking for them.

34 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:09:32pm

re: #24 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Keep calm and gird up your loins.
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Thanks much for the tip, but it doesn’t quite work with my Ron Ely-based lifestyle.

35 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 5, 2014 3:10:28pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

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Dear sirs,

I have to register the strongest complain against your Ebola Rocks. Contrary to your claims, they will not glow around undrunk beer, and at best emit only the slightest of glimmer around orcs. It is not bright enough to be categorized as a “Glow” and at best is barely a shimmer.

My strongest complaint however is regarding your laughable claim of preventing tigers. Due to your false advertising, I got rid of my formally 100% effective “Anti-Tiger Beans” and as a result I am now short 3 goats and a llama.

Awaiting your prompt reply to this matter.

Sincerely,

RBS

36 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 5, 2014 3:11:01pm

re: #34 De Kolta Chair

It’s a hellbound lifestyle anyway. //

37 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:12:47pm

re: #36 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s a hellbound lifestyle anyway. //

I would think hope so!

38 otoc  Oct 5, 2014 3:15:05pm

re: #30 De Kolta Chair

From that highly speculative, to put it politely “news article”:

He doesn’t name a date and doesn’t know where those “some people” came from. Sad to think that the NBPC is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

What’s worse is that both Fox and Nadia Galinda, Valley Central use:

During the 2013 fiscal year, statistics from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security website show Border Patrol agents apprehended 112 immigrants from Guinea, 231 from Liberia and 145 immigrants from Sierra Leone, which are the three countries currently experiencing the most cases of Ebola.

The US fiscal year ends on Sept 30, so that means all these apprehended immigrants have either had Ebola since or before 9/30/2013. So what’s that suppose to lend to this story other than fear? The fact is these countries have been fighting this disease since 2013, so if this was an issue then why did it take until 10/2014 for the US to have its first case? The use of that data only shows that the mention of immigrants isn’t the problem.

I hate bad reporting.

39 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:19:12pm

re: #38 otoc

Right, the entire piece, as in POS, is a hodgepodge of out-of-contextness.

40 lawhawk  Oct 5, 2014 3:20:21pm

Why have a rational discussion when you can bark at the moon and blame Obama for failing to stop the Ebola outbreak from coming to the US. These are the same folks who complained when the US brought back US good Samaritans who became infected while treating others in Africa - thinking that this would create an outbreak here.

These are the same people who talk about goodness and charity and then when faced with the proposition of doing something about it - attack the people who are trying to do good through charity.

Then, the most recent case got through and potentially infected a few dozen people - namely came in contact with those numbers and they are now being checked for symptoms for the requisite 3 week maximum incubation period.

We know how the disease spreads even if the low-information Hoftian/Breitbartian/CCJ nutter thinks it is airborne (which it isn’t). These are people who are smear merchants and wouldn’t know facts or journalism if it hit them with a clue by four (or Clue by C4 for the especially dense).

After all, who would you trust, the CDC, WHO, MSF/DWB, and USAMRIID (all of which have decades of experience with outbreaks and containing public health emergencies), or a bunch of nutters who read it somewhere online the extremely unlikely chance that a virus that has a predictable and known transmission path would suddenly change (EVOLUTION!, but that’s a separate posting) where they posted bogus CT scans of nonexistent injuries, invented details about juvenile murder case that didn’t exist all to smear an unarmed black guy killed by a cop in an excessive force incident, and otherwise make stuff up on a daily basis to feed their ragegasms?

I know where I’d get my information, but all too many are checking in with nutter sites that would qualify as bad Twilight fan fiction.

41 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 5, 2014 3:20:56pm

Busy downloading the Technology preview version of Win 10. Going to throw it on to a virtual machine, see what it looks like. I don’t have a physical machine to spare, but this will let me see what it’s going to be like.

RBS

42 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:21:14pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

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Are you practicing Santeria without a license?

43 Lidane  Oct 5, 2014 3:22:17pm

I’m about sick and tired of the constant ignorance about Ebola. Fox News and the rest of the media have done a massive disservice to everyone by hyping a single case in Dallas and turning it into the possible start of a pandemic.

People need to calm the hell down. And the media need to be raked over the coals for stoking panic.

44 lawhawk  Oct 5, 2014 3:22:36pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Cthulhu doesn’t require a license. Only your soul. And it wasn’t yours to give in the first place. /just saying

45 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:23:58pm

re: #29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

10 movies that are more biblical than Left Behind


Midnight Cowboy
is more biblical than Left Behind.

46 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:25:46pm

Uh oh, uncle Larry’s ebola is acting up again.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 3:26:04pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

True, but remember that where he comes from some hospitals are turning those suffering from Ebola away. So that does mitigate his actions to a notable degree in my eyes.

pretty much what I said a couple of days ago.

48 Editor in Chief  Oct 5, 2014 3:26:50pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

Busy downloading the Technology preview version of Win 10. Going to throw it on to a virtual machine, see what it looks like. I don’t have a physical machine to spare, but this will let me see what it’s going to be like.

RBS

What happened to Win 9?

49 Archangelus  Oct 5, 2014 3:27:36pm

re: #17 PhillyPretzel

Fear mongering.

At its absolute worst…

50 ausador  Oct 5, 2014 3:28:55pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Unreal.

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They aren’t alone…

Idiots all…

51 teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2014 3:29:06pm
52 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 3:29:24pm

re: #48 b_sharp

What happened to Win 9?

Windows 8 has been so screwed up that Microsoft decided to skip the ‘evolved; version of it that would have been Win 9 and go with something new and different.

53 jaunte  Oct 5, 2014 3:30:01pm

More than 30,000 people are killed by firearms each year in the US, a third of them homicides, but scary immigrant Ebola is the panic trigger.

54 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:31:00pm

“Doctor Ebolastone, I presume?”

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 3:33:00pm

if frank’s magic ebola rocks don’t work, there’s still this:

ebola!!!

56 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 3:33:11pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

True, but remember that where he comes from some hospitals are turning those suffering from Ebola away. So that does mitigate his actions to a notable degree in my eyes.

Also, if the woman wasn’t admitted to the hospital then mostly likely she wasn’t tested. I also don’t think she had died by the time he left the country. So he might have well inferred that she had Ebola, but he couldn’t have been certain.

Like I said yesterday, it’s very human to cling to a diminishing uncertainty in the face of mounting evidence that one is fucked. In a way it’s the opposite of hypochondriasis, irrational optimism rooted in denial. Some people think acknowledging a fear makes it real.

57 ausador  Oct 5, 2014 3:33:21pm

re: #38 otoc

The US fiscal year ends on Sept 30, so that means all these apprehended immigrants have either had Ebola since or before 9/30/2013. So what’s that suppose to lend to this story other than fear? The fact is these countries have been fighting this disease since 2013, so if this was an issue then why did it take until 10/2014 for the US to have its first case? The use of that data only shows that the mention of immigrants isn’t the problem.

I hate bad reporting.

So in the year 2013 border patrol apprehended x number of people from these countries, but the article conveniently does not say where. It wasn’t at the Mexican border folks…

58 jaunte  Oct 5, 2014 3:35:32pm

re: #57 ausador

So in the year 2013 border patrol apprehended x number of people from these countries, but the article conveniently does not say where. It wasn’t at the Mexican border folks…

All those abandoned prayer rugs at the border we keep hearing about (that somehow couldn’t be photographed) must have been thrown away because they were contaminated with Ebola.

59 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:35:43pm

re: #57 ausador

So in the year 2013 border patrol apprehended x number of people from these countries, but the article conveniently does not say where. It wasn’t at the Mexican border folks…

Fox will cover that in its in-depth follow-up, but they’re taking it carefully on the research and double-checking all their quotes.

60 whitebeach  Oct 5, 2014 3:36:36pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

GDFrank, are they not available in stores?

61 Ryan King  Oct 5, 2014 3:37:47pm

AFP are spamming Teh Twitterz hard. Again.

62 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 3:39:02pm

“When the legend becomes fact, print the legend. You’ll get more page hits than John D. Rockefeller had dimes.” — The Man Who Shot Ebola Valance (2014)

63 Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2014 3:39:59pm

facepalm.

64 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 3:40:15pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Also, if the woman wasn’t admitted to the hospital then mostly likely she wasn’t tested. I also don’t think she had died by the time he left the country. So he might have well inferred that she had Ebola, but he couldn’t have been certain.

I think the woman died a couple hours after she returned home, and even without a test, I think he probably knew.

65 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 3:41:05pm

re: #60 whitebeach

GDFrank, are they not available in stores?

Surely they should be in every Walgreens, Rite Aid and CVS in the country in the lead-up to Christmas!

66 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 5, 2014 3:42:12pm

67 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:42:29pm

re: #65 calochortus

Surely they should be in every Walgreens, Rite Aid and CVS in the country in the lead-up to Christmas!

Actually, I think there’s a Not-Available-in-Stores section in Walmart.

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 3:44:38pm

re: #65 calochortus

Surely they should be in every Walgreens, Rite Aid and CVS in the country in the lead-up to Christmas!

They make excellent Christmas tree ornaments as well.

69 otoc  Oct 5, 2014 3:44:46pm

re: #48 b_sharp

What happened to Win 9?

Everything You Need to Know About Windows 10

It’s in the comments…

70 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:46:16pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

They make excellent Christmas tree ornaments as well.

My instructions have a CPSC warning—“For Lower Branches Use Only”. There were some hideous accidents.

71 freetoken  Oct 5, 2014 3:47:16pm

re: #48 b_sharp

What happened to Win 9?

I asked the same question.

The answer I got confirmed once again why I don’t use Windows.

72 teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2014 3:48:35pm

Alex Jones takes a page from Glenn Beck’s play book.

73 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 3:49:04pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

They make excellent Christmas tree ornaments as well.

But only if you’re a beer-drinking orc.

74 calochortus  Oct 5, 2014 3:49:08pm

BBL

75 Editor in Chief  Oct 5, 2014 3:49:53pm

re: #71 freetoken

I asked the same question.

The answer I got confirmed once again why I don’t use Windows.

I have no choice.

Customers demand compatibility with previous versions.

76 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:50:30pm

re: #73 Pie-onist Overlord

But only if you’re a beer-drinking orc.

Still don’t understand how GDF imports rocks from China so cheaply.

77 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 3:51:15pm

re: #64 calochortus

I think the woman died a couple hours after she returned home, and even without a test, I think he probably knew.

I just found the timeframe. The cab right was September 15th. Nathaline Williams died the next day. The family told the cab driver that she was miscarrying, but the cab driver was afraid it was Ebola. It’s not clear if Duncan ever knew for sure, or could have.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 3:51:22pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Still don’t understand how GDF imports rocks from China so cheaply.

I thought they were from Middle Earth!

79 PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2014 3:51:47pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Chinese do not want the rocks. They practically give them away. ;)

80 otoc  Oct 5, 2014 3:52:23pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

Fox will cover that in its in-depth follow-up, but they’re taking it carefully on the research and double-checking all their quotes.

Their work is done based on this sample comment from that Fox link…

therepublican
10 minutes ago
Liberals are responsible for Open Borders and Ebola in the US.

Lol, “therepublican”. Should change their handle to “damnmostrepublicans”

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 3:52:29pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

My instructions have a CPSC warning—“For Lower Branches Use Only”. There were some hideous accidents.

especially if feline overlords are involved…

82 freetoken  Oct 5, 2014 3:54:47pm

Re-messaging at its finest:

RNC chair claims Texas abortion law is about ‘compassion’ on Meet the Press

Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus said in an interview on Meet the Press that the law in Texas that has closed several abortion clinics is about ‘compassion’ and not having taxpayer money going to abortions. 13 clinics have been closed this week alone.

Commentators have pointed out that the Texas law does not allow taxpayer money to go toward abortions. “The fact of the matter is that we believe that any woman that’s faced with an unplanned pregnancy deserves compassion, respect, counseling, whatever it is that we can offer,” Priebus said. “But 80% of those clinics are gone!” Meet the Press Host Chuck Todd responded. “They have to drive 200, 300 miles for that compassion?” Priebus responded with his claim that taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for abortions.

[…]

I’m not sure that response even qualifies as a non sequitur.

83 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 3:55:35pm

re: #79 PhillyPretzel

Chinese do not want the rocks. They practically give them away. ;)

I suspect they’re ‘seconds’.

84 PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2014 3:57:34pm

re: #83 Decatur Deb

Or possibly “thirds.”

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 4:01:02pm

re: #84 PhillyPretzel

Or possibly “thirds.”

or just fake rocks…

86 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2014 4:04:08pm

800 of those callers have FOX News on their televisions 24/7.

87 Ryan King  Oct 5, 2014 4:04:32pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

88 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 5, 2014 4:05:09pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb


Midnight Cowboy
is more biblical than Left Behind.

That LOL startled my son ;D

89 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 4:11:46pm

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 4:12:58pm

That Desmond…he sure knows how to win people to his arguments…

91 teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2014 4:14:05pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

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Are the wingers all like

?

92 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 5, 2014 4:16:58pm

ARRRGHHH!!!! My MSI Motherboard apparently doesn’t support AMD-V virtualization, at least I can’t find anywhere in the bios to enable it. The processor (AMD Phenom X-4) does, but looks like the Mobo doesn’t. Downloading a bios update, but not holding out much hope on that. Might have to find a solution other than Virtualbox to run it in.

Suggestions? (and no, getting my old 2008 Server R2 box out of the closet isn’t the most attractive option at this point)

RBS

93 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 5, 2014 4:19:02pm

So, a bit OT but the boy and I watched the pilot episode of Star Wars Rebels. Not bad - heck nowhere near what I feared - with a couple of decent conceits. It’s set 14 years after III & 5 years befor IV so it’s probably the best time frame to tell a story of the rag tags that might just spark the rebellion into open flames. The force sensitive (though not understanding what the Force is) orphan kid who’s half Luke & half Han is fun as is the retired badass deep undercover Jedi on The Ghost. The comic relief droid is meh - seems to be R2 but “different” because someone likes Grumpy Cat. At least the design is straight from …

The thing I like the most is the visual style that riffs hard on the original Ralph McQuarrie concept-art brought to life. Lot’s of fun there.

I was fond of the recently departed Clone Wars series as it was the only thing in the EU that made me care about Anakin’s decent to the dark side. If the writing is at least that good it’ll be a tolerable entry from Disney/Lucas.

94 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 5, 2014 4:23:28pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

Busy downloading the Technology preview version of Win 10. Going to throw it on to a virtual machine, see what it looks like. I don’t have a physical machine to spare, but this will let me see what it’s going to be like. RBS

Except for video games, there’s next to no reason to continue using Microsoft software, other than the fact that you probably work for a company that started using Word and Excel 20 years ago and has no idea how to stop. If you’re like my employer, you probably balance your entire operation at least one SPREADSHEET that really should have been turned into a proper database 5 or 6 years ago, but the guys who could approve the change are needlessly risk-averse. Part of the reason they are so risk-averse is because Linda, who has been with the company since 1989 thinks it would be a bad idea.

Linda has been through a decade-long series of genuinely bad marriages and the resultant divorces. Linda listens to “classic rock” entirely too loudly. Linda gets drunk almost every day. This is not a secret.

Because the IT department as a whole is reasonably competent and to its credit tends to notice and silently fix problems long before they have seriously negative consequences, they give the false impression that they are unnecessary. Management never thinks, “Our IT guys are good at their jobs, so we almost never have IT problems!” They always think, “We almost never have IT problems, so why do we need these IT guys?”

Back to “Linda”. She is short-tempered today, but sweet as honey tomorrow. You know Linda. If you have never worked with Linda, you haven’t worked anywhere for very long. Linda makes young girls cry on their first day of their first “real job”. Linda is the reason why a lot of temps quit after their first day. This causes “hiring mangers” to falsely assume that all the temps are flightly and unreliable. Linda gets away with this for 20+ years because even the management and H.R. is terrified of her. Other long-timers can’t figure out why Linda has never been fired.

Linda has been around for a long time. She knows how to work the corporate system in such as way that any attempt to get rid of her would result in a corporate cluster-fuck beyond all imagination.

Given the nature of the Internet these days, it’s likely that by now some of you are thinking, “tisk tisk, how sexist.” This is because you have never worked with Linda. Linda is not a stereotype. Linda really exists.

Linda will never be fired.

Sooner or later, Linda will go to work for a news agency.

She will then do what she does, and shape what you think you know.

95 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 4:31:07pm

Evening dogwalk, had to wear a jacket this morning. BBL

96 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 4:39:14pm

re: #88 William Barnett-Lewis

That LOL startled my son ;D

Wasn’t snarking. Often told my kids that was a very Christian movie—kept most of them from seeing it. You can find someone on the net that turned that into a thesis.

97 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 4:53:21pm

Here is an excellent write up on the Requiem for Mike Brown flash mob at the St. Louis Symphony. Interviewing the woman who organized it.

And the video is there for anyone who’s missed it. It’s a must watch.

politicususa.com

98 Jack Burton  Oct 5, 2014 4:53:59pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

That thread is nominally about Ebola but its really about race. And given that its Freep, its really ugly.

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 5, 2014 4:55:04pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Wasn’t snarking. Often told my kids that was a very Christian movie—kept most of them from seeing it. You can find someone on the net that turned that into a thesis.

Pondering it a bit, I think I can image how. Might have to go looking …

100 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 4:55:24pm

I got this love note from a #tcot wingnut after I pointed out that Patrick Henry the great patriot owned 78 slaves:

101 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 4:56:48pm

:(

102 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 4:59:11pm
At one end of the spectrum, at least eight GOP members of Congress have endorsed same-sex marriage, and two openly gay GOP candidates for the House hope to join them.

On the other flank, conservative Republicans in Congress have introduced legislation seeking to protect states from being forced to recognize same-sex marriages. One of those lawmakers is Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a potential presidential contender who drew applause at a recent conservative gathering by saying, “We stand for marriage,” and insisting that his party not shy away from “family values.”

Then there’s the large group in middle, not ready to embrace same-sex marriage but wary of antagonizing its supporters, including what polls suggest is a solid majority of Republicans under age 30.

Several GOP governors fit into this category, including Chris Christie of New Jersey, Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania, Susana Martinez of New Mexico and Brian Sandoval of Nevada. Each decided within the past year to back away from all-out legal fights against gay marriage.

AKA the chickenshits. Republican gang members who only care about the pragmatic costs of continuing to oppose gay marriage, but couldn’t give a crap less about the equal rights principles at play.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 5, 2014 5:01:32pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

True, but remember that where he comes from some hospitals are turning those suffering from Ebola away. So that does mitigate his actions to a notable degree in my eyes.

And for a fraction of the cost of containing Ebola in the USA, we could have built, staffed and equipped a lot of hospitals and clinics in Africa. But that would involve giving Free Stuff to brown people…

104 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:04:20pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Here is an excellent write up on the Requiem for Mike Brown flash mob at the St. Louis Symphony. Interviewing the woman who organized it.

And the video is there for anyone who’s missed it. It’s a must watch.

politicususa.com

That’s freakn’ brilliant.

105 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 5:04:46pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Here is an excellent write up on the Requiem for Mike Brown flash mob at the St. Louis Symphony. Interviewing the woman who organized it.

And the video is there for anyone who’s missed it. It’s a must watch.

politicususa.com

I’d like to put in a ZOMG!!1 FLASH MOBZ!!!11 joke here, but it wouldn’t really work. Darn.

106 ausador  Oct 5, 2014 5:06:45pm

The Derpening…

107 Skip Intro  Oct 5, 2014 5:08:11pm

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And for a fraction of the cost of containing Ebola in the USA, we could have built, staffed and equipped a lot of hospitals and clinics in Africa. But that would involve giving Free Stuff to brown people…

We don’t do things like that, not there, not here.

What we do is bomb the shit out of places, then rebuild what we destroyed and hand over our used weapons to our former enemies.

That’s what we do.

108 danarchy  Oct 5, 2014 5:08:58pm

re: #94 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Except for video games, there’s next to no reason to continue using Microsoft software, other than the fact that you probably work for a company that started using Word and Excel 20 years ago and has no idea how to stop.

Sorry this is just wrong. Microsoft Active Directory in a corporate environment is leaps and bounds better than anything Apple or *nix can muster for user management, access control, software and configuration deployment. I’ve used it all and it isn’t even close, I am no fan boy, I love my mac book, and for home use I largely agree with you, but in a corporate environment, Microsoft or gtfo.

109 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 5:11:35pm

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And for a fraction of the cost of containing Ebola in the USA, we could have built, staffed and equipped a lot of hospitals and clinics in Africa. But that would involve giving Free Stuff to brown people…

And then those hospitals would have been crippled before the virus showed up by endemic corruption. There’d still have been space, and it likely would be clean, but the high-tech stuff would have been confiscated by corrupt officials already and then sold off to line said officials’ pockets.

110 TedStriker  Oct 5, 2014 5:11:51pm

re: #48 b_sharp

What happened to Win 9?

7 8 9

(think about that for a second)

///

111 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:11:55pm

re: #106 ausador

The Derpening…

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I think “Kurt” is some kind of neo-Dadaist media artist. You know—an asshole.

112 TedStriker  Oct 5, 2014 5:14:20pm

re: #92 RealityBasedSteve

ARRRGHHH!!!! My MSI Motherboard apparently doesn’t support AMD-V virtualization, at least I can’t find anywhere in the bios to enable it. The processor (AMD Phenom X-4) does, but looks like the Mobo doesn’t. Downloading a bios update, but not holding out much hope on that. Might have to find a solution other than Virtualbox to run it in.

Suggestions? (and no, getting my old 2008 Server R2 box out of the closet isn’t the most attractive option at this point)

RBS

What board do you have? Even the low-end AMD boards have generally supported hardware virtualization for at least the past few years or more.

113 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 5:15:11pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

That’s freakn’ brilliant.

I cried.

114 BeachDem  Oct 5, 2014 5:17:08pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

if frank’s magic ebola rocks don’t work, there’s still this:

ebola!!!

Damn—I was in a border town all last week, then flew through Dallas—I didn’t see a single one of those. I’m surprised the new AmericanAirlinesUSAirways—worst of both worlds airlines weren’t selling them onboard.

(I was more concerned with the possibility of heat stroke than EBOLA!!)

115 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:17:57pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

I cried.

When the orchestra applauded the interruption, that nailed it.

116 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 5:19:23pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

When the orchestra applauded the interruption, that nailed it.

The one dude with the big smile and the aghast date, was the one who called him a thug. :(

117 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:20:02pm

re: #114 BeachDem

Damn—I was in a border town all last week, then flew through Dallas—I didn’t see a single one of those. I’m surprised the new AmericanAirlinesUSAirways—worst of both worlds airlines weren’t selling them onboard.

(I was more concerned with the possibility of heat stroke than EBOLA!!)

Homeland security has not rated GDF’s rocks for flight, afraid a radicalized paleoanthropologist could fashion a Olduwan pebble tool and rush the cockpit.

118 lawhawk  Oct 5, 2014 5:21:32pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Here is an excellent write up on the Requiem for Mike Brown flash mob at the St. Louis Symphony. Interviewing the woman who organized it.

And the video is there for anyone who’s missed it. It’s a must watch.

politicususa.com

Very interesting stuff. Especially the part about the attempt to do a similar action at a Cardinals game.

Here’s my own observation of an albeit limited sample given that I’ve only been to one Cardinals game at Busch Stadium (a game that occurred just about a week before Brown was shot and killed by Officer Wilson in Ferguson btw).

Mrs. Lawhawk and I were both struck by the composition of the crowd and the workforce.

The folks attending the game are overwhelmingly white, while the people working are predominantly black. I suspect this had something to do with the reaction, but again, that’s just my perception.

It’s as though far too many in the STL area (and the country at large) still haven’t gotten past the Dred Scott days. Or haven’t forgiven that the Dred Scott days are over.

119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 5, 2014 5:21:43pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

And then those hospitals would have been crippled before the virus showed up by endemic corruption. There’d still have been space, and it likely would be clean, but the high-tech stuff would have been confiscated by corrupt officials already and then sold off to line said officials’ pockets.

End effect is the same, the insufficiently controlled spread of Ebola in Africa leads to increased costs in the USA in its efforts to contain it.

120 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 5:27:28pm

re: #111 Decatur Deb

I think “Kurt” is some kind of neo-Dadaist media artist. You know—an asshole.

Sadly, having the same first name as me doesn’t make a person as sane as me.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 5:27:35pm

jeebus #1stWorldProblem driving me crazy tonight.
I’ve been having internet connection probs all freaking week.
Tonight, everything is taking forever to load…it’s like I’m back on dialup.
I just checked and I’m getting 160kbps down and 251 kbps up (NOT A TYPO).
Just hand me an adult beverage so I can drown in my sorrows…

122 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 5, 2014 5:28:59pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus #1stWorldProblem driving me crazy tonight.
I’ve been having internet connection probs all freaking week.
Tonight, everything is taking forever to load…it’s like I’m back on dialup.
I just checked and I’m getting 160kbps down and 251 kbps up (NOT A TYPO).
Just hand me an adult beverage so I can drown in my sorrows…

That’s what happens when they hire those Mennonite Tech Support guys. Those kerosene powered routers can only go so fast, what with the hand switching of all the packets and all.

RBS

123 KiTA  Oct 5, 2014 5:29:17pm

Wow. Noam Chomsky is on the Google Play store. Noticed when I got Jello Biafra’s latest. Might have to get one of his albums.

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 5:29:30pm

it took me more than 30 minutes before I could type that last comment..

125 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:30:10pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus #1stWorldProblem driving me crazy tonight.
I’ve been having internet connection probs all freaking week.
Tonight, everything is taking forever to load…it’s like I’m back on dialup.
I just checked and I’m getting 160kbps down and 251 kbps up (NOT A TYPO).
Just hand me an adult beverage so I can drown in my sorrows…

Try to tighten the microphone ring on your receiver before you put it back on the acoustic coupler.

126 jamesfirecat  Oct 5, 2014 5:30:52pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Can I interest you in one of my magic anti Ebola rocks?

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How does it glow in proximity to undrunk beer?

127 De Kolta Chair  Oct 5, 2014 5:31:08pm

A friend of mine is designing a pamphlet for one of the nurses unions that explains who they’re endorsing for the NY state assembly, state senate and US Congress. They want a photo of each candidate, so there being a ton of them she’s paying me to google their images and then forward them to her. I just finished up the job, and it appears to me it would be much easier and save on printing costs if the union just ran a big headline reading, “Vote For The Democratic Incumbent!”

But then again, there would go my hard-earned beer money.

128 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 5, 2014 5:34:17pm

re: #122 RealityBasedSteve

That’s what happens when they hire those Mennonite Tech Support guys. Those kerosene powered routers can only go so fast, what with the hand switching of all the packets and all.

RBS

But they have a true understanding of the concept of horsepower.

129 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2014 5:37:01pm

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

But they have a true understanding of the concept of horsepower.

I need more high-powered hamsters…

130 BeachDem  Oct 5, 2014 5:37:03pm

I guess we’re going to have to add a sidecar to the clown car—Lindsey Graham is thinking of running for President in 2016. Bless his heart.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 5:38:23pm

OMFG this fucking moron thinks the Holocaust could have been stopped if all the Juice of Poland, Hungary, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, France, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Italy, just all got together in an open field somewhere with everyone having a gun (including children).
TEH STUPIDS. I just can’t even.

132 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 5:41:14pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

it took me more than 30 minutes before I could type that last comment..

:(

if you ever see this

133 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 5:42:10pm

re: #130 BeachDem

I guess we’re going to have to add a sidecar to the clown car—Lindsey Graham is thinking of running for President in 2016. Bless his heart.

He must be scared of the Southern Charm dude.

134 goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2014 5:42:13pm

re: #126 jamesfirecat

How does it glow in proximity to undrunk beer?

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 5:42:21pm
136 Kid A  Oct 5, 2014 5:43:04pm

Found this mama and her baby today.

137 Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2014 5:44:48pm

Quality of life for the coming season just took a nice bump. The last PBS season of Inspector Lewis put the show in a unrecoverable finale. Then the actors in RL went off to other things. Tonight’s TV listing shows a new season with realigned roles. That will be the 4th iteration of the Inspector Morse cycle.

Outta here for a bit.

138 BeachDem  Oct 5, 2014 5:51:19pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

He must be scared of the Southern Charm dude.

And isn’t that a sad commentary on life as we know it.

139 Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2014 5:51:48pm

re: #138 BeachDem

And isn’t that a sad commentary on life as we know it.

YES

140 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2014 5:53:23pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

OMFG this fucking moron thinks the Holocaust could have been stopped if all the Juice of Poland, Hungary, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, France, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Italy, just all got together in an open field somewhere with everyone having a gun (including children).
TEH STUPIDS. I just can’t even.

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6 million is about the combined strength of the Polish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Belgian, and French armies in the first year of World War 2. They had not only rifles and pistols, but machine guns, artillery, tanks, and aircraft. The French in fact had more and better tanks than the Germans.
Guess what happened.

141 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 5:54:30pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

6 million is about the combined strength of the Polish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Belgian, and French armies in the first year of World War 2. They had not only rifles and pistols, but machine guns, artillery, tanks, and aircraft. The French in fact had more and better tanks than the Germans.
Guess what happened.

Forget it Jake, it’s #TCOT town

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 5:54:56pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

6 million is about the combined strength of the Polish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Belgian, and French armies in the first year of World War 2. They had not only rifles and pistols, but machine guns, artillery, tanks, and aircraft. The French in fact had more and better tanks than the Germans.
Guess what happened.

I’ll have to make a meme out of that.

143 Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2014 5:55:15pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

6 million is about the combined strength of the Polish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Belgian, and French armies in the first year of World War 2. They had not only rifles and pistols, but machine guns, artillery, tanks, and aircraft. The French in fact had more and better tanks than the Germans.
Guess what happened.

Long story short: The Germans mislead the Allies as to their plan of attack then sucker-punched France.

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 5, 2014 5:57:39pm

re: #126 jamesfirecat

How does it glow in proximity to undrunk beer?

Have you thought of trying jellyfish?

Undrunk beer detector at work

145 BillinGlendaleCA  Oct 5, 2014 6:07:31pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

I’m giving it a try too. Downloading now and will likewise put it on a VM.

146 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Oct 5, 2014 7:06:08pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

6 million is about the combined strength of the Polish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Belgian, and French armies in the first year of World War 2. They had not only rifles and pistols, but machine guns, artillery, tanks, and aircraft. The French in fact had more and better tanks than the Germans.
Guess what happened.

Not mention that most of the European Jews live in Eastern Europe, with a ton in Poland. The Nazis brutalized the whole populations there, with Jews suffering the worst fates, after the gun battles ended.

And Germany had a population of ~70m, with only a few 100k Jews living there when the Nazi program kicked in full force. So outnumbered 30-1, outgunned/trained/supplied by a much, much greater margin, and having no local support (or strongly negative support), they could take down the Nazis?

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 7:09:11pm

re: #146 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

Not mention that most of the European Jews live in Eastern Europe, with a ton in Poland. The Nazis brutalized the whole populations there, with Jews suffering the worst fates, after the gun battles ended.

And Germany had a population of ~70m, with only a few 100k Jews living there when the Nazi program kicked in full force. So outnumbered 30-1, outgunned/trained/supplied by a much, much greater margin, and having no local support (or strongly negative support), they could take down the Nazis?

148 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 5, 2014 7:10:44pm

I don’t know who is stupider, the BUNCHA PEOPLE W/GUNS COULDA STOPPED TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!!! or 23% SALES TAX REPLACE TEH IRS!!!11!!!!

Of course it’s not a matter of either/or, these are usually the same fucking morons.

149 TedStriker  Oct 5, 2014 7:53:08pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

Busy downloading the Technology preview version of Win 10. Going to throw it on to a virtual machine, see what it looks like. I don’t have a physical machine to spare, but this will let me see what it’s going to be like.

RBS

re: #145 BillinGlendaleCA

I’m giving it a try too. Downloading now and will likewise put it on a VM.

I’m dual-booting it with Win8.1.


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