Ted Cruz, “Strict Constitutionalist,” Wants to Amend the Constitution to Ban Marriage Equality

Cruz wants to enshrine homophobia with a Constitutional amendment
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If there’s one thing we know about Republicans, it’s that they have the utmost respect for the Constitution. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, for example, is a strict constitutionalist who “believes firmly in the United States Constitution.”

Right. That’s why he now wants to change it, so that states can forever deny the right to marriage for gay people.

He’s a “strict constitutionalist,” unless it helps one of the groups he demonizes.

Hours after the U.S. Supreme Court paved the way for same-sex marriage bans to be lifted in five states, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz called Monday for amending the U.S. Constitution to prevent either the federal government or the U.S. Supreme Court from overturning a state’s ban on same-sex marriage.

Cruz announced his plans in a statement Monday in response to the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to let stand appeals court rulings allowing same-sex marriages in Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin. Cruz called the court’s decision to let those rulings stand “tragic and indefensible” and expressed concern that it would lead to the overturning of same-sex marriage bans in every state.

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387 comments
1 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 2:13:08pm
2 Iwouldprefernotto  Oct 6, 2014 2:13:31pm

Please proceed.*

*still works

3 makeitstop  Oct 6, 2014 2:15:35pm

I can’t even bear to look at that puppethead any more. Smarmy git.

4 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 2:16:04pm

THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH DISCRIMINATION TAKEN OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION, WE NEED TO PUT SOME MORE BACK IN

5 Bulworth  Oct 6, 2014 2:16:50pm

It’s almost as if Cruz and company can’t stand the thought of SSM actually working (not causing the collapse of the Western World).

6 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:16:56pm

Segregation now and segregation forever. Hell Ted even looks like George Wallace a little. He certainly shares a bigoted soul with Wallace.

7 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 2:17:15pm

So, if a State decided to ban certain types of fire arms, Ted Cruz would make sure the Feds couldn’t remove the ban, right?

8 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:17:59pm

re: #5 Bulworth

It’s almost as if Cruz and company can’t stand the thought of SSM actually working (not causing the collapse of the Western World).

Hell Canada’s had SSM since the early 2000’s. I’d love to ask conservatives like Cruz who convince themselves that SSM means society will collapse to explain Canada. Or hell I’d like to ask them what they think of the fact that they share commodity on this issue and other issues involving gay people with ISIS, Al Queda, and the Taliban.

9 Bulworth  Oct 6, 2014 2:18:19pm

If Cruz, Fischer, et al can’t get SSM banned soon people might find out that their agenda, their fear-mongering and predictions of doom are bupkis.

10 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 2:19:35pm

I bet Ted wants to amend that whole “natural born citizen” part of the constitution too.

11 Schadenboner  Oct 6, 2014 2:20:30pm

Christ, what a smug looking shit.

Seriously, hasn’t anyone ever told him not to smirk like that in public?

And I mean that in a nonpartisan “Political Consulting 101” sense.

12 Bulworth  Oct 6, 2014 2:20:58pm

Teabag GOP: We’re gonna have so much fun when we take the Senate and can obstruct Obama some more…

SCOTUS: We’re just gonna leave this here…

Teabag GOP: Arghhh!! Ughhhsh!!! Liberal activist courts and state legislatures and state AG’s!!!111 DOOM!!!!

13 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:21:13pm

re: #5 Bulworth

It’s almost as if Cruz and company can’t stand the thought of SSM actually working (not causing the collapse of the Western World).

IIRC, that was Bill Kristol’s whole reasoning behind steadfast opposition to any compromise on healthcare, that it would probably work and would make people think the Democrats are more about helping the Middle Class.

14 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:22:00pm

This is all showmanship though by Cruz. The Republicans couldn’t get this passed in 2004 when they controlled both houses of Congress. This is Cruz putting a big wet one to the so-con whackjobs that think two gay guys marrying is a worse thing for this country than someone going without health insurance.

15 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:22:51pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Hell Canada’s had SSM since the early 2000’s. I’d love to ask conservatives like Cruz who convince themselves that SSM means society will collapse to explain Canada. Or hell I’d like to ask them what they think of the fact that they share commodity on this issue and other issues involving gay people with ISIS, Al Queda, and the Taliban.

Well clearly, without the ability to lean on the US for support, they’d have collapsed like a bundle of sticks long since.
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16 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:23:25pm

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

IIRC, that was Bill Kristol’s whole reasoning behind steadfast opposition to any compromise on healthcare, that it would probably work and would make people think the Democrats are more about helping the Middle Class.

I think that was their only reason for opposing it. Not real principles but that Obamacare (or really any Obama policy) could OMG HELP PEOPLE AND OBAMA WOULD LOOK GOOD. The GOP: For the rich and by the rich and fucking everyone else in the process.

17 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 2:23:56pm
18 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 2:24:17pm

He can never win a general election talkin’ shit like this. Also over a third GOP voters want the party to stop fighting SSM, including 61% of young Republicans.

19 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:26:50pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

He can never win a general election talkin’ shit like this. Also over a third GOP voters want the party to stop fighting this, including 61% of young Republicans.

They’re really screwing themselves with the younger generation talking like this. Those young Republicans won’t stay young Republicans long. Not saying all of them will “see the light” and become Dems but they definitely will grow tired of a party obsessed with rigid social conservatism. The idiots that run the GOP though think Generation Y’s support for SSM is a “fad.” As I like to say, pogs were a fad for me but my beliefs in supporting my gay friends and family members having the same rights in marriage as me are my principles.

20 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:27:14pm

re: #17 Kragar

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Hahaha.

21 klys  Oct 6, 2014 2:27:28pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

He can never win a general election talkin’ shit like this. Also over a third GOP voters want the party to stop fighting SSM, including 61% of young Republicans.

Problem is, he can’t win a primary if he doesn’t.

22 klys  Oct 6, 2014 2:28:15pm

re: #21 klys

Problem is, he can’t win a primary if he doesn’t.

Of course, I say problem, and it is a problem in the sense that I would like a second sane party in this country but what we have right now is not that. But the base of the party does not currently consider it a problem.

23 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:29:43pm
24 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:29:48pm

re: #22 klys

Of course, I say problem, and it is a problem in the sense that I would like a second sane party in this country but what we have right now is not that. But the base of the party does not currently consider it a problem.

If only we could run a REAL Conservative!, because Americans really want more than anything else to fuck the poor and blow the rich!

25 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:30:11pm

re: #23 jaunte

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Terrorist Fish Jam?

26 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:30:37pm

re: #21 klys

Problem is, he can’t win a primary if he doesn’t.

Which is the Catch-22 the GOP faces for the next generation. It’s their own fault though. They wanted these bigots to vote for them and they’re finding out that the number of non-bigots in the GE outnumbers the number of bigots.

27 thedopefishlives  Oct 6, 2014 2:32:33pm

Evening Lizardim from the clear and cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk in the war on derp?

28 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:34:29pm

re: #27 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the clear and cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk in the war on derp?

“I fought the derp and the…derp won!
“I fought the derp and the…derp won!”

29 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:34:42pm
30 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 2:35:10pm
31 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:35:13pm
Cruz: “Traditional marriage is an institution whose integrity and vitality are critical to the health of any society. We should remain faithful to our moral heritage and never hesitate to defend it.”

That’s why he’s going to outlaw divorce. Oh wait.

32 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 2:35:38pm

re: #21 klys

Problem is, he can’t win a primary if he doesn’t.

To a point, yes. This is all raw meat to the hyper Christian fundraisers and so-cons. I still think Cruz is underestimating the amount of fatigue on the right for continuing this fight, and he’s leaving himself very little room to pivot or mollify his hard line stance.

33 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:36:24pm

re: #29 jaunte

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Cruz pretty much affirms what they really mean by judicial activism and that’s that they didn’t rule for his worldview. Again though, I think this whole thing which will not even pass the Senate is Cruz’s way of getting some love from the SoCon whackjobs he needs if he wants the presidential nomination.

34 AntonSirius  Oct 6, 2014 2:36:26pm

Assuming the current polling is accurate and the GOP walks away with 52 seats in the Senate this November, they would also need 305 seats in the House to have the 2/3rds super-majority necessary to pass a constitutional amendment.

That means they’d to pick up, oh, about 72 seats in the midterms. And that’s assuming 100% of GOP members vote for it.

Good luck with that, Sen. Smug & Punchable.

35 Lidane  Oct 6, 2014 2:36:32pm

The last time we amended the Constitution to restrict rights it didn’t work out all that well.

36 darthstar  Oct 6, 2014 2:36:43pm

Ted Cruz needs to secede from humanity.

37 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 2:39:07pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

To a point, yes. This is all raw meat to the hyper Christian fundraisers and so-cons. I still think Cruz is underestimating the amount of fatigue on the right for continuing this fight, and he’s leaving himself very little room to pivot or mollify his hard line stance.

Yeah, but look at his face, oozing smarmy self-confidence that he can fool the rubes in his party AND pull off the needed pivot. If ever there was a face build to be slapped by reality, it’s that face

38 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:39:40pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but look at his face, oozing smarmy self-confidence that he can fool the rubes in his party AND pull off the needed pivot. If ever there was a face build to be slapped by reality, it’s that face

I can’t wait for the primaries and the debates.

39 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 2:40:09pm

re: #34 AntonSirius

Assuming the current polling is accurate and the GOP walks away with 52 seats in the Senate this November, they would also need 305 seats in the House to have the 2/3rds super-majority necessary to pass a constitutional amendment.

That means they’d to pick up, oh, about 72 seats in the midterms. And that’s assuming 100% of GOP members vote for it.

Good luck with that, Sen. Smug & Punchable.

The 2/3rs majority rule applies to both chambers, not just the House. Meaning the GOP would also have to pick up another 15 Senate seats. Totally impossible.

40 AntonSirius  Oct 6, 2014 2:41:59pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

D’oh. You’re right. Brain cramp on my part.

41 nines09  Oct 6, 2014 2:43:37pm

Todays Outrage. Be sure to tune in tomorrow for Tomorrows Outrage. Signed; Your GOP In Action.

42 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:44:07pm

OK, I’ve waited long enough. What the fuck is wrong with Cruz’s face? He looks like a badly drawn cartoon character.

43 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 2:44:24pm

There is only one way Sen Cruz becomes the TPGOP nominee—he changes the spelling of his name to “Crews”. That’s an easier task than Dr. Carson’s.

44 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:45:04pm

re: #23 jaunte

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It’s white folks, so of course they do it ironically. Duh.

//need I?

45 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:45:12pm

re: #42 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

OK, I’ve waited long enough. What the fuck is wrong with Cruz’s face? He looks like a badly drawn cartoon character.

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46 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:45:38pm

How did Ted Cruz happen?

“…It wasn’t until Ted was well along in grade school, though, that Darragh grasped he might be intellectually gifted.

From Spring Branch and nearby Jersey Village, she chauffeured him to a series of private and church-related schools. Some were far from home. They included Montessori and Southern Baptist institutions, as well as a school that he recalled had many Jewish students and another, the Awty International School, that his mother said enrolled children of French diplomats.

“I wasn’t that aware that he was precocious,” Darragh said. “He was my only child.”

Ted, though, said he began “cutting up” in third grade at West Briar School until teacher Gail Jennings “had the good sense to just give me a triple work assignment. … I was bored.”

At Awty and the Christian school Faith West Academy in Katy, Cruz liked sports but soon came under the tutelage of Rolland (rhymes with “Holland”) Storey. Storey, a retired Houston utility company public-relations executive, created a speech contest to instill in young people an appreciation of free-market economic theory.

“It had a profound impact on my thinking,” Cruz said.

Austrian free-market economists such as Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek were staples of the curriculum at Storey’s Free Enterprise Education Center. He had teens learn the “10 Pillars of Economic Wisdom,” several of which Cruz can still recite, including pillar No. 2:

“Government is never a source of goods. Everything that government gives you, it must first take from you.”
dallasnews.com

47 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 2:46:13pm

The only thing working for Ted is the GOP’s absolute dearth of alternative options. That’s the only way a greasy, used car salesman looking motherfucker like that even gets looked at seriously.

I’m touching America’s swimsuit area.

48 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:47:13pm

Ted Cruz, designed by a Houston utility company public-relations executive.

49 Ace-o-aces  Oct 6, 2014 2:47:16pm
50 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:47:27pm

re: #46 jaunte

How did Ted Cruz happen?

Yeah von Mises. The economist who believed in ignoring actual data to focus on the theory is the perfect role model for the guy who tries to pass Obamacare repeals while its signer is still in the WH.

51 nines09  Oct 6, 2014 2:47:33pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

He’s so greasy he slides off himself.

52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:47:35pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

No, Grandpa Munster is cute.

53 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:48:00pm

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No, Grandpa Munster is cute.

Heh true.

54 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 2:48:45pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Image: grandpa-munster.jpg

Count Fuckula

55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:49:27pm

Young Jabba the Hutt?

56 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:50:03pm

THere’s just something unlikable about the guy that I think transcends ideology.

57 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 2:50:39pm

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No, Grandpa Munster is cute.

Agreed.

I met him years and years ago at his restaurant in Manhattan.

Really tall I recall.

58 Ace-o-aces  Oct 6, 2014 2:51:49pm
59 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 2:51:50pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Agreed.

I met him years and years ago at his restaurant in Manhattan.

Really tall I recall.

ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com

60 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:51:58pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Agreed.

I met him years and years ago at his restaurant in Manhattan.

Really tall I recall.

He was actually younger than his TV daughter. Funny though. I never figured him for a particularly tall guy.

61 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:53:06pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

Can they lose their tax exempt status though?

PS: I think there should be no tax exemption for religious orgs anyway.

62 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:53:23pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

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The clueless bigot doesn’t get it. But just like him for cry about this because he knows he’ll get the dying love of the fundie bigots that read him.

63 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 6, 2014 2:54:02pm
64 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:55:31pm

re: #63 NJDhockeyfan

A Secret Service official said the inclusion of “race” on the e-mail resulted from a verbal error and that it should have been date of birth.

Uh-huh.

65 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:56:06pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

Conservatives must disestablish marriage in state law completely.

Shapiro should be encouraged to campaign for office on this plank.

66 Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2014 2:57:04pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Image: grandpa-munster.jpg

He’s the genetically engineered spawn of George Wallace and Joe McCarthy?

67 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:57:18pm

re: #65 jaunte

Shapiro should be encouraged to campaign for office on this plank.

Lol Shapiro would never actually run for office. It’s more profitable to carry own the late Andrew Breitbart’s legacy of pushing fear and resentment.

68 Lidane  Oct 6, 2014 2:57:22pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

I want to see a Republican try and run for office on that platform. That would be a hoot.

69 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 2:57:25pm

re: #66 Timothy Watson

He’s the genetically engineered spawn of George Wallace and Joe McCarthy?

Yes.

70 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 2:57:46pm

re: #66 Timothy Watson

He’s the genetically engineered spawn of George Wallace and Joe McCarthy?

With a touch of his father Rafael who is a bigoted nutjob too.

71 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 2:59:01pm
72 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 3:00:10pm

Eventually you’ll be seeing conservatives claiming that they supported SSM and equal rights for gay people and that it was the LEFT that opposed it.

73 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 3:04:57pm
74 Jack Burton  Oct 6, 2014 3:06:38pm
Cruz: “Traditional marriage is an institution whose integrity and vitality are critical to the health of any society. We should remain faithful to our moral heritage and never hesitate to defend it.”

Even if we accept this asinine statement as true-ish, the legalization of SSM will not reduce the number of “traditional marriages”, therefore will have no affect on the health of society.

If they are so worried about marriage keeping society together, they need to work on reducing divorces.

But we all know that’s not really what this is about.

75 Ace-o-aces  Oct 6, 2014 3:12:17pm

re: #61 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Can they lose their tax exempt status though?

No.
Show me ONE church/temple/mosque that has ever lost tax-exempt status for refusing to marry someone.

76 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 6, 2014 3:12:30pm
77 JustMark  Oct 6, 2014 3:14:29pm

re: #27 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the clear and cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk in the war on derp?

We’ve always been at war with the derp…

78 sattv4u2  Oct 6, 2014 3:15:18pm

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

On the one hand, if the “plant” has anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke, I doubt an explosion at such a facility would be covered in Iran’s Fars News Agency and admitted to by Iran’s Defense Industries Organization. ON THE OTHER HAND ,,,, it’s referred to as a “production plant” so it most likely does NOT have anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke
But I’m getting mixed signals from the article and I’ll admit,,, any ‘facility” in Iran that has anything to do with “energy” or using such a banal term as “production plant” or that can go BOOM raises my suspicions

79 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 3:15:49pm

re: #74 Jack Burton

Even if we accept this asinine statement as true-ish, the legalization of SSM will not reduce the number of “traditional marriages”, therefore will have no affect on the health of society.

If they are so worried about marriage keeping society together, they need to work on reducing divorces.

But we all know that’s not really what this is about.

The word traditional is a dog whistle rhetorical trick. Only those trained in fundamental critical analysis rejection techniques can see the truth behind it.

80 sattv4u2  Oct 6, 2014 3:17:14pm

re: #79 b_sharp

The word traditional is a dog whistle rhetorical trick. Only those trained in fundamental critical analysis rejection techniques can see the truth behind it.

So I should avoid this stuff then, huh???

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81 Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2014 3:18:08pm

re: #48 jaunte

Ted Cruz, designed by a Houston utility company public-relations executive.

HL&P

Used to call it Houston Looting & Plunder.

82 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 3:18:23pm

re: #75 Ace-o-aces

No.

Good.

83 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 3:19:05pm

re: #74 Jack Burton

Since Ted’s parents are divorced, he’s probably well aware of his own hypocrisy regarding ‘defending traditional marriage.’

84 freetoken  Oct 6, 2014 3:19:39pm

Speaking of the hypocritical right-wing, apparently tonight’s DWTS is being turned into a Duck pond:

Too Sexy?! See What Sadie Robertson (and Her Uncles!) Will Be Wearing on Dancing With the Stars Tonight

It’s hard enough deciding on what you’re going to wear while competing on Dancing With the Stars on live TV. But it’s even more difficult for Sadie Robertson, since she has to get her dad’s approval on all her outfits!

[…]

But Sadie won’t be dancing with just her partner Mark Ballas; she’s also going to be joined on the dance floor by her uncles!

Si, Willie, Jase, and Jep are all going to be in the dance, and we’ve got your first look at their costumes as well! Check out the camo they’ll be sporting, because of course they’re going to wear camo. What else would you expect from the Duck Dynasty men?

[…]

So ABC is trying to prop up the sagging DWTS ratings by pulling the Jesus&Guns crowd.

What do we call such a show?

A brace of boobs?

85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 3:20:25pm

Traditional marriage: 700 wives, 300 concubines. Plus siblings marriage.

86 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 6, 2014 3:21:46pm

Remember that whole “keep moving rule” WRT protesters in Feguson?

It’s been ruled unconstitutional (surprised I know)

87 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 3:22:53pm

re: #79 b_sharp

Only those trained in fundamental critical analysis rejection techniques can see the truth behind it.

I’m imagining you say this with a monotone Terminator voice.

88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 3:23:17pm

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! Also, Seth married his sister, so you can yours too.

89 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 3:24:21pm

re: #88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! Also, Seth married his sister, so you can yours too.

My sister is a bitch.

90 Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2014 3:25:04pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

On the one hand, if the “plant” has anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke, I doubt an explosion at such a facility would be covered in Iran’s Fars News Agency and admitted to by Iran’s Defense Industries Organization. ON THE OTHER HAND ,,,, it’s referred to as a “production plant” so it most likely does NOT have anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke
But I’m getting mixed signals from the article and I’ll admit,,, any ‘facility” in Iran that has anything to do with “energy” or using such a banal term as “production plant” or that can go BOOM raises my suspicions

Channelview Texas energy production plants blow up periodically also.

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 3:25:45pm

re: #89 b_sharp

My sister is a bitch.

Wait till you’re 400 years old and marry her. That’s biblical.

92 sattv4u2  Oct 6, 2014 3:25:58pm

re: #90 Eventual Carrion

Channelview Texas hasn’t been reported trying to develop a nuke, have they?

93 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 6, 2014 3:27:13pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

On the one hand, if the “plant” has anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke, I doubt an explosion at such a facility would be covered in Iran’s Fars News Agency and admitted to by Iran’s Defense Industries Organization. ON THE OTHER HAND ,,,, it’s referred to as a “production plant” so it most likely does NOT have anything to do with Irans suspected drive to get a nuke
But I’m getting mixed signals from the article and I’ll admit,,, any ‘facility” in Iran that has anything to do with “energy” or using such a banal term as “production plant” or that can go BOOM raises my suspicions

According to the NYT it is full of missile parts.

Built during the reign of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the site — partly buried in the Barjamali hills — was traditionally used as a munitions storage facility but is now also used for the production of missile engines and drones.

Considering there hasn’t been an inspection there in almost 10 years anything could be inside those buildings.

94 sattv4u2  Oct 6, 2014 3:28:18pm

Ah well,,, grill is fired up,,,, pork loin as been marinating for 24 hours,,, time to go do my Bobby Flay impression

95 Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2014 3:29:18pm

re: #92 sattv4u2

Channelview Texas hasn’t been reported trying to develop a nuke, have they?

The United States have already developed nukes. We have them. We fly them cross country on joy rides.

96 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 6, 2014 3:35:50pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

There was on account on twitter that was something along the lines of ‘angryjohnmccain’. I can’t find it searching the tubes, but it was a good one.

There were plenty of tweets about cruz’s face.

97 pyite  Oct 6, 2014 3:36:27pm

As much as I hate to say anything positive about Ted Cruz, his approach is the technically correct one for a constitutionalist to take.

Luckily, it would never come close to passing.

98 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 3:39:35pm

Joe McCarthy comparison with Ted Cruz. Have either a sense of decency

All you need to do is put Ted into black and white mode and the similarities between demagogues is striking. Brothers in many ways.

99 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 3:42:53pm
100 XtremeDave  Oct 6, 2014 3:45:28pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

The Republican primary election is best described as a prisoner’s dilemma. The party stands to benefit if the candidates all agree to stay away from the most bigoted appeals to far right wing conservatives and appeal to socially moderate suburban swing state voters. Except each candidate benefits individually if they appeal to the far right wingnuts and gain their vote, especially since this is a large part of the GOP. This ramps up the derp arms race and forces all candidates to be “extremely conservative” in order to win the primary, but guarantees general election defeat.

Reince’s plan to limit the number of debates in 2016 is an attempt to minimize the chances for GOP candidates to take advantage of the opportunity to ruin the party but help themselves. Good luck with that…

101 freetoken  Oct 6, 2014 3:47:40pm
102 freetoken  Oct 6, 2014 3:48:28pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

That looks to be a viral tweet in waiting…

103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 3:49:28pm

re: #101 freetoken

Is there really a debate anymore? I thought everybody but a few cranks were agreed that it’s both nature and nurture.

104 Kragar  Oct 6, 2014 3:50:04pm
105 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 3:50:27pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Terrorist Fish Jam?

Delicious on crossiants.

106 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 3:51:56pm
107 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 3:56:33pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

To a point, yes. This is all raw meat to the hyper Christian fundraisers and so-cons. I still think Cruz is underestimating the amount of fatigue on the right for continuing this fight, and he’s leaving himself very little room to pivot or mollify his hard line stance.

Don’t assume he has any desire to do so. He’s a hard line religious nut. No pivoting. I don’t see his doing so for any reason. His father would disown him.

108 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 4:00:59pm

re: #36 darthstar

Ted Cruz needs to secede from humanity.

He already has. Long ago. Along with every other “conservative” who wants to starve the poor, kill the gays and the sick, and take away healthcare from millions of Americans.

109 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 6, 2014 4:01:36pm
110 stpaulbear  Oct 6, 2014 4:01:53pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait for the primaries and the debates.

Myself, I can’t wait for the primates and debaries.

111 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:05:00pm

LOL, this guy again:

Awaiting the inevitable torrent of insults.

112 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 4:07:57pm

re: #63 NJDhockeyfan

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WTF is with the pic of Michelle Obama?

113 Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2014 4:13:04pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

LOL, this guy again:

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Awaiting the inevitable torrent of insults.

I’m sure, then, that he was broken hearted about the court disturbing the words of the legislature re: the VRA and campaign finance laws, to name a couple…

114 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:16:13pm

re: #113 Mike Lamb

I’m sure, then, that he was broken hearted about the court disturbing the words of the legislature re: the VRA and campaign finance laws, to name a couple…

Pretty sure he thinks the VRA was a legislative overreach. He’s already on record opposing the 1964 Civil Rights Act as such.

115 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 4:27:52pm

re: #102 freetoken

That looks to be a viral tweet in waiting…

Feel free…use the image. I am not a Twitterer.

116 Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2014 4:28:56pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure he thinks the VRA was a legislative overreach. He’s already on record opposing the 1964 Civil Rights Act as such.

But how is that if the legislature already “said what the law should be” regarding the voting rights and campaign finance laws? Him being so principled and all…

117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 4:29:22pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Joe McCarthy comparison with Ted Cruz. Have either a sense of decency

All you need to do is put Ted into black and white mode and the similarities between demagogues is striking. Brothers in many ways.

Is he McCarthy’s illegitimate son? Is the birth certificate fake? Developing…
/

118 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:31:42pm

re: #116 Mike Lamb

But how is that if the legislature already “said what the law should be” regarding the voting rights and campaign finance laws? Him being so principled and all…

He’s an “original meaning textualist” so that means we have to honor all the limitations, bigotries and mental retardations of the old dead cock-necks who wrote the laws. When there’s a conflict, real or imagined, you go with the oldest, most cock-necked law in question, because reasons.

119 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 4:32:10pm

Great, earlier I was followed on Twitter by @AFPLouisiana now I just got followed by @AFPhq I have a feeling they don’t like me very much.

120 Floral Giraffe  Oct 6, 2014 4:36:00pm

re: #119 ausador

Just yank their chains & enjoy!

121 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 4:37:46pm

re: #115 ObserverArt

Feel free…use the image. I am not a Twitterer.

I tooked it. I tweeted it, too. :-)

122 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 4:39:48pm

re: #119 ausador

Great, earlier I was followed on Twitter by @AFPLouisiana now I just got followed by @AFPhq I have a feeling they don’t like me very much.

I don’t get the weird follows I get, either. It creeps me out sometimes.

123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 6, 2014 4:45:16pm

re: #122 WhatEVs

I don’t get the weird follows I get, either. It creeps me out sometimes.

call me paranoid but I look at the timelines and blurbs on each new follower just to see that I am not being followed by some creep/stalker

124 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:45:47pm

Fucking tard-muppet.

125 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 4:47:16pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

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Fucking tard-muppet.

He tries to be wrong.

Or something.

126 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 4:48:19pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Either way, it’s still not an argument undermining the SSM right to marry, which some states and a significant number of bigots wanted to restrict to a man and woman.

127 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 4:48:20pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

Took the second place in the loser contest.

128 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:48:52pm

CCJ is a very serious journalist.

129 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 4:53:24pm
130 stpaulbear  Oct 6, 2014 4:54:48pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

CCJ is a very serious journalist.

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That may be the stupidest question that I’ve ever seen. He had to have gone somewhere far beyond his ass to pull that one out.

131 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 4:54:57pm

re: #126 lawhawk

Either way, it’s still not an argument undermining the SSM right to marry, which some states and a significant number of bigots wanted to restrict to a man and woman.

132 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 4:56:37pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

That may be the stupidest question that I’ve ever seen. He had to have gone somewhere far beyond his ass to pull that one out.

The inverted ouroboros?

133 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2014 4:57:20pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

That may be the stupidest question that I’ve ever seen. He had to have gone somewhere far beyond his ass to pull that one out.

That’s so bad he could have pulled it out of Todd Kincannon’s ass.

134 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 4:57:29pm

Charles C. Johnson is an odd individual. I really wonder if he is not suffering some social issues or something. He is just not right. He lacks empathy, asks bizarre questions, has no feel for others, etc. Troubling behavior. And I am not saying that lightly. Something is missing in his thought processing.

135 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 4:57:30pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

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She seems nice.

136 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 4:58:38pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

I see and raise with Rush Limbaugh. And Mark Sanford.

137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 4:58:47pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

I think he mentioned autism.

138 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 4:59:37pm

re: #123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

call me paranoid but I look at the timelines and blurbs on each new follower just to see that I am not being followed by some creep/stalker

I read their profile pages and usually laugh. If they’re especially offensive, I block them.

139 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 4:59:49pm

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think he mentioned autism.

Well, that explains a lot. I had not caught that. Was that posted here?

140 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 5:00:22pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

Charles C. Johnson is an odd individual. I really wonder if he is not suffering some social issues or something. He is just not right. He lacks empathy, asks bizarre questions, has no feel for others, etc. Troubling behavior. And I am not saying that lightly. He is just not right. Something is missing in his thought processing.

He’s self admittedly autistic, so some variant of Aspergers or suchlike. Still, no excuses, the vast majority of people with Aspergers I’ve met, while having their quirks, somehow manage to navigate through life without acting like malicious douchebags.

141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 5:00:32pm

re: #139 ObserverArt

I caught it here. I don’t read Chucky otherwise.

142 Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2014 5:01:01pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

He’s an “original meaning textualist” so that means we have to honor all the limitations, bigotries and mental retardations of the old dead cock-necks who wrote the laws. When there’s a conflict, real or imagined, you go with the oldest, most cock-necked law in question, because reasons.

He’s not even that. He’s an opportunist. The Court can do whatever the fuck it wants if it means he gets his way.

143 Varek Raith  Oct 6, 2014 5:02:28pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

CCJ is a very serious journalist.

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Whut

144 Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2014 5:02:48pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

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Fucking tard-muppet.

Even if that is a true statistic, why is that relevant? In what way does SSM cause more divorces?

Then again, I like this game: If ginger marriages are the same as real marriages, why does CCJ fuck goats?

145 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:03:07pm

c++ pgmr candidate didnt know why you want to declare the base class destructor virtual

146 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:03:35pm

re: #141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I caught it here. I don’t read Chucky otherwise.

Oh sorry…didn’t mean to imply you did. I thought maybe you had read it in a link, a tweet or something. I haven’t been able to keep close attention to much that is going on the past few weeks here at LGF, so I missed any part of the mention he is autistic.

147 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 5:03:42pm

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think he mentioned autism.

He mentioned it, I believe that about as much as anything else he says.

That isn’t a get out of being a douchebag card anyways.

Would it be possible to make a living on that fringe website of his?

148 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 5:04:10pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

He tries to be wrong.

Or something.

Takes great pride it too.

149 Varek Raith  Oct 6, 2014 5:05:08pm

re: #145 dog philosopher

c++ pgmr candidate didnt know why you want to declare the base class destructor virtual

Because it’s more fun not too!

150 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 5:05:19pm

re: #144 Mike Lamb

Even if that is a true statistic, why is that relevant? In what way does SSM cause more divorces?

Then again, I like this game: If ginger marriages are the same as real marriages, why does CCJ fuck goats?

It causes more divorces because it causes marriages and marriages cause divorces. So more marriages = more divorces.

Given the rates of marriage & divorce in the bible belt, you’ve gotta wonder…

151 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:05:52pm

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think he mentioned autism.

Aspergers is no excuse.

152 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:06:25pm

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

He’s self admittedly autistic, so some variant of Aspergers or suchlike. Still, no excuses, the vast majority of people with Aspergers I’ve met, while having their quirks, somehow manage to navigate through life without acting like malicious douchebags.

Yes we do.

153 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:08:15pm

re: #151 b_sharp

Aspergers is no excuse.

Dern tootin’. The older boy has ASD (The Syndrome Formerly Known as Aspergers), and he’s not a douchebag, nor is any other person with Aspergers I’ve ever met.

154 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 5:08:34pm

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think he mentioned autism.

re: #139 ObserverArt

Well, that explains a lot. I had not caught that. Was that posted here?

Tweeted by UpChuck the day after Eliot Rodger went on his MRA rampage.

And other greatest hits.

155 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 5:09:28pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

CCJ is a very serious journalist.

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What the heck does that even mean?

156 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:09:37pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

Dern tootin’. The older boy has ASD (The Syndrome Formerly Known as Aspergers), and he’s not a douchebag, nor is any other person with Aspergers I’ve ever met.

My family is full of autism.

157 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 5:10:13pm

re: #119 ausador

Great, earlier I was followed on Twitter by @AFPLouisiana now I just got followed by @AFPhq I have a feeling they don’t like me very much.

LOL some unpaid intern is shilling for the Kochs, they are spamming Teh Twitters

158 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 5:11:04pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Charles C is using that as an excuse to be as big of an uncaring dick as possible

159 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 6, 2014 5:11:11pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

My job is to take information and help it be free.

The Greensnow syndrome./

160 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 5:12:49pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Chuck C has the gall to complain about not getting an apology?

After all of the sh*t he’s pulled?

161 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 5:13:32pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

Charles C. Johnson is an odd individual. I really wonder if he is not suffering some social issues or something. He is just not right. He lacks empathy, asks bizarre questions, has no feel for others, etc. Troubling behavior. And I am not saying that lightly. Something is missing in his thought processing.

Not that I disagree, but there’s also the easy cash for those who make the most outlandish of statements. I wouldn’t discount the money motive.

162 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:13:37pm

re: #156 b_sharp

My family is full of autism.

Mine too. BTW, does your family pun a lot? I have an hypothesis regarding the literalism that accompanies autism and how it interacts with hearing words that can be interpreted more than one way.

163 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:14:44pm

re: #160 b.d.

Chuck C has the gall to complain about not getting an apology?

After all of the sh*t he’s pulled?

Still waiting on his apology to the Brown family for claiming that Michael Brown had been indicted for murder as a juvenile, even though there’s no actual victim that he can trace the alleged crime to.

164 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:15:48pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

My job is to take information and help it be

give me your bank account and routing number thx you

165 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:15:50pm
166 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:15:54pm

re: #163 lawhawk

Still waiting on his apology to the Brown family for claiming that Michael Brown had been indicted for murder as a juvenile, even though there’s no actual victim that he can trace the alleged crime to.

I hope you’re not holding your breath on that one.

167 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:16:17pm

re: #156 b_sharp

My family is full of autism.

how about your hovercraft?

168 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 5:17:59pm

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

He’s self admittedly autistic, so some variant of Aspergers or suchlike. Still, no excuses, the vast majority of people with Aspergers I’ve met, while having their quirks, somehow manage to navigate through life without acting like malicious douchebags.

My brother is a narcissistic dick sometimes, and he can be manipulative as hell, but he’s not malicious. His Auspergers is kind of severe but he’s nothing remotely like CCJ. My brother does have compassion and empathy (granted in smaller doses than most).

169 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:18:10pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

I hope you’re not holding your breath on that one.

Smurfs got nothing on me. /

170 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:18:24pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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“Top Schools” - like in ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’, when th Government guys tell Indy that the Ark is being investigated by the Top Men in the field.

“Who? What are their names?”

“TOP. MEN.”

171 Lumberhead  Oct 6, 2014 5:20:49pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

He can never win a general election talkin’ shit like this. Also over a third GOP voters want the party to stop fighting SSM, including 61% of young Republicans.

I don’t think Ted Cruz has the slightest interest in actually being President. I have no doubt he will run but making noise in the primary will let him raise lots of money. That’s his goal.

172 Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2014 5:21:20pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

How does someone graduate “well”?

173 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:21:23pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

Mine too. BTW, does your family pun a lot? I have an hypothesis regarding the literalism that accompanies autism and how it interacts with hearing words that can be interpreted more than one way.

My grandkids are both high func autistics. The older one doesn’t have the vocabulary but is quite literal. My daughter does pun frequently, and my humour has hinged on the multiple meanings behind words since I was a teenager. I was talking before I was a year old though so my language skills easily outstripped my social skills.

174 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:22:55pm

English mofo, do you speak it?

Do they speak English on What?

And he (and the rest of the right wing) have the nerve to demand everyone speak English as their first language? Johnson can barely string together a coherent sentence. That is, when he’s not busy smearing people.

175 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:23:12pm

re: #168 WhatEVs

My brother is a narcissistic dick sometimes, and he can be manipulative as hell, but he’s not malicious. His Auspergers is kind of severe but he’s nothing remotely like CCJ. My brother does have compassion and empathy (granted in smaller doses than most).

I think ‘lack of empathy’ is a poor description of the ASD trait it refers to. What it means is poor ability to read the emotions of others in real time. It’s not that he can’t empathize with another’s life. It’s that he couldn’t grasp, from their actions and expressions, what they were feeling. The older boy used to be really bad at that, but has learned a lot. It’s just that it doesn’t come naturally and has to be learned.

176 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:23:48pm
177 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:23:55pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

The pop up time indicator in the turkey suggests well-done. Hard boiled. /

178 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:24:00pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

only a relatively small amount of bitching and moaning

179 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:24:34pm

re: #167 dog philosopher

how about your hovercraft?

It’s full of mint chocolate cookies.

We ran out of eels.

180 Romantic Heretic  Oct 6, 2014 5:25:26pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Which is the Catch-22 the GOP faces for the next generation. It’s their own fault though. They wanted these bigots to vote for them and they’re finding out that the number of non-bigots in the GE outnumbers the number of bigots.

Which is why they’re workings hard to limit voting. If the ‘wrong people’ can be kept from voting then the GOP wins even if they are a minority in this country.

Which is odd (hypocritical?) considering how often they go on and on about minorities running the country.

181 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:25:42pm

re: #179 b_sharp

It’s full of mint chocolate cookies.

We ran out of eels.

“That’s A Moray!’

182 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 5:25:54pm

Ebola ALL THE TIME. No thank you.

Turned my TV to bullshit, so much more relaxing.

183 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:25:59pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

I think ‘lack of empathy’ is a poor description of the ASD trait it refers to. What it means is poor ability to read the emotions of others in real time. It’s not that he can’t empathize with another’s life. It’s that he couldn’t grasp, from their actions and expressions, what they were feeling. The older boy used to be really bad at that, but has learned a lot. It’s just that it doesn’t come naturally and has to be learned.

This is exactly the case.

184 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:26:17pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

Same way they write good.

185 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:27:50pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

“That’s A Moray!’

You have a wonderful singing voice.

In my head, at least.

186 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:28:15pm

re: #184 ObserverArt

Same way they write good.

“i don’t feel good” : i feel unwell

“i don’t feel well” : i am bad at feeling things

(signed)

- former linguistics major who hates grammarians

187 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:28:57pm

re: #185 b_sharp

You have a wonderful singing voice.

In my head, at least.

In mine, too. Outside my head, not so much.

So, did I sound like Dean Martin in your head?

188 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 5:29:21pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

CCJ is a very serious journalist.

Chuck forgot his smart pills tonight?

189 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 5:29:30pm

re: #174 lawhawk

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English mofo, do you speak it?

Do they speak English on What?

And he (and the rest of the right wing) have the nerve to demand everyone speak English as their first language? Johnson can barely string together a coherent sentence. That is, when he’s not busy smearing people.

Maybe he graduated from a well? That’s where I’d keep him if he were my student.

190 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 5:31:16pm

re: #157 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL some unpaid intern is shilling for the Kochs, they are spamming Teh Twitters

Now followed by @ArizonaAFP lol.

191 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:31:24pm

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

In mine, too. Outside my head, not so much.

So, did I sound like Dean Martin in your head?

No, not really. More like Bugs Bunny.

192 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 5:31:45pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

I think ‘lack of empathy’ is a poor description of the ASD trait it refers to. What it means is poor ability to read the emotions of others in real time. It’s not that he can’t empathize with another’s life. It’s that he couldn’t grasp, from their actions and expressions, what they were feeling. The older boy used to be really bad at that, but has learned a lot. It’s just that it doesn’t come naturally and has to be learned.

Thanks for that. It makes more sense than saying they lack empathy, because I see empathy all the time from people on the spectrum. Now I feel less confused about it.

193 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:32:44pm

re: #189 b.d.

Maybe he graduated from a well? That’s where I’d keep him if he were my student.

*Woof! Woof!*

“What’s that Lassie? You say Chucke fell down the well?”

*Rowr, rowr, yife!*

“Yeah, you’re right - let’s leave him there a while.”

194 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:33:34pm

re: #191 b_sharp

No, not really. More like Bugs Bunny.

Of course, you know this means WAR!

195 dog philosopher  Oct 6, 2014 5:34:10pm

Autism & intelligence is why I don’t care about the criticism. My job is to take

is ‘autism’ now being used as the politically correct euphemism for ‘asshole’?

196 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:35:10pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

Autism & intelligence is why I don’t care about the criticism. My job is to take

is ‘autism’ now being used as the politically correct euphemism for ‘asshole’?

Yeah, you know I’ve yet to encounter anyone on the spectrum who wasn’t at least a sensitive to criticism as neurotypicals.

197 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:35:16pm
198 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 6, 2014 5:36:05pm

Maybe Chuck C J has Twitter Tourettes?

199 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:36:30pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Thanks for that. It makes more sense than saying they lack empathy, because I see empathy all the time from people on the spectrum. Now I feel less confused about it.

Autistics can learn to read people, stop saying hurtful things and learn to express compassion but it’s a slow process. I’m 59 and I still say stupidly hurtful things without knowing it.

I’ve spent 35 years watching people interact, watching facial expressions and learning to decipher meaning behind writing.

200 Romantic Heretic  Oct 6, 2014 5:36:36pm

re: #66 Timothy Watson

He’s the genetically engineered spawn of George Wallace and Joe McCarthy?

re: #70 HappyWarrior

With a touch of his father Rafael who is a bigoted nutjob too.

The process went something like this.

Youtube Video

But with extra essence of terror rather than any tenderness

201 Belafon  Oct 6, 2014 5:37:58pm

re: #188 ausador

I had to.

202 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:38:06pm
203 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 5:38:08pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

I think ‘lack of empathy’ is a poor description of the ASD trait it refers to. What it means is poor ability to read the emotions of others in real time. It’s not that he can’t empathize with another’s life. It’s that he couldn’t grasp, from their actions and expressions, what they were feeling. The older boy used to be really bad at that, but has learned a lot. It’s just that it doesn’t come naturally and has to be learned.

I never thought of it that way, nor did I correlate some of the thoughts that spill out of his mouth (as mine usually hangs agape). He has almost no concept of inappropriate talk, or how what he says can hurt others. And he’s quite selfish (most people are to a certain degree.) But he has empathy for others. How does that happen?

I’ve had a very hard time coping with him sometimes (he’s in his 70s now). Our brains are so different I have to constantly remind myself that’s he’s not like me or most other people. It’s a constant, conscious effort to remind myself of that so I don’t go off on him.

Oh, and he has an IQ of around 165. Which kills me when I’m thinking to myself “WTF were you thinking?”

He’s not always like what I’ve mentioned above. He can be very, very sweet. It’s just that sometimes I’m left scratching my head.

204 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 5:38:50pm

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

In mine, too. Outside my head, not so much.

So, did I sound like Dean Martin in your head?

Had you for Julius LaRosa, not the boozy cover.

205 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:39:07pm

I wouldn’t take Chuck’s claim that he has “autism” at face value. That’s something he would lie about to try to make his detractors feel guilty.

206 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 5:39:38pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

Well, he graduated.

207 JustMark  Oct 6, 2014 5:40:25pm

re: #206 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey, that was gonna be my line! :-)

208 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:40:43pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

Autism & intelligence is why I don’t care about the criticism. My job is to take

is ‘autism’ now being used as the politically correct euphemism for ‘asshole’?

Libruls label things like autism in order to develop and apply appropriate learning and coping systems but people like CCJ use those labels as excuses while accusing libruls of doing the same thing.

209 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:41:18pm

re: #206 Pie-onist Overlord

How does someone graduate “well”?

Well, he graduated.

No, that’s dyslexia, not autism spectrum disorder.

210 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 5:41:38pm

re: #168 WhatEVs

My brother is a narcissistic dick sometimes, and he can be manipulative as hell, but he’s not malicious. His Auspergers is kind of severe but he’s nothing remotely like CCJ. My brother does have compassion and empathy (granted in smaller doses than most).

Prior to CCJ the most annoying person with Aspergers I ever knew was this guy I shared an office with who sprayed Desenex in his shoes every day before leaving work. He was okay otherwise, kind of different, was super fascinated by firetrucks. In the end I just had to time my afternoon breaks around the Desenex ritual, because the gross medicated smell just got to me.

211 stpaulbear  Oct 6, 2014 5:42:57pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

The same way that Gang of Four spent time with his girl.

Youtube Video

“You must be joking, oh man, you must be joking…”

212 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:43:00pm

re: #203 WhatEVs

I never thought of it that way, nor did I correlate some of the thoughts that spill out of his mouth (as mine usually hangs agape). He has almost no concept of inappropriate talk, or how what he says can hurt others. And he’s quite selfish (most people are to a certain degree.) But he has empathy for others. How does that happen?

I’ve had a very hard time coping with him sometimes (he’s in his 70s now). Our brains are so different I have to constantly remind myself that’s he’s not like me or most other people. It’s a constant, conscious effort to remind myself of that so I don’t go off on him.

Oh, and he has an IQ of around 165. Which kills me when I’m thinking to myself “WTF were you thinking?”

He’s not always like what I’ve mentioned above. He can be very, very sweet. It’s just that sometimes I’m left scratching my head.

Well, there’s Aspergers AND there’s whatever else there is about his personality. Being On The Spectrum neither makes you an asshole, nor prevents you from being one. Assholishness is a different set of traits.

213 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 5:43:27pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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At least he got Symphony right.

214 TedStriker  Oct 6, 2014 5:43:43pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t take Chuck’s claim that he has “autism” at face value. That’s something he would lie about to try to make his detractors feel guilty.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing, that CCJ’s using a claim of autism as cover to be as sociopathic as he possibly can, a sort of “get out of jail free” card.

Even if he is autistic, the fact that he’s using it as an excuse still means he’s a fucking dick, because he certainly appears to be fully aware of what he says and does.

215 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:44:53pm

re: #214 TedStriker

I was thinking pretty much the same thing, that CCJ’s using a claim of autism as cover to be as sociopathic as he possibly can, a sort of “get out of jail free” card.

Even if he is autustic, the fact that he’s using it as an excuse still means he’s a fucking dick, because he certainly appears to be fully aware of what he says and does.

It’s not like there aren’t assholes saying the same kind of shit all over the internet, day in and day out. Mostly they don’t pretend to be journalists, however.

216 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 5:45:34pm

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

217 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:46:15pm

re: #216 jaunte

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

It seems a strange thing to mention.

218 freetoken  Oct 6, 2014 5:46:54pm

I was wondering why it was cloudy today (which cooled things off), then saw that tropical storm Simon has spread his mantle over us:

weather.gov

There’s even a small band of his outer showers just at the edge of the local radar coverage:

radar.weather.gov

Won’t get here, unfortunately….

219 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:47:06pm

Damn…a pretty good thunderstorm just broke out and it is really raining here in Columbus. Wasn’t expecting it at this time of the night.

220 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 5:47:27pm

re: #216 jaunte

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

ya.

221 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 5:47:28pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

“I’ve seen attack Porsches on fire off the shoulder of Orion…”

222 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 5:48:20pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

It seems a strange thing to mention.

He was responding to the shooting @ UCSB.

223 Editor in Chief  Oct 6, 2014 5:48:31pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

It seems a strange thing to mention.

We’re supposed to admire him because he can drive something as rich sounding as a BMW.

I think it stands for Bowel Movement Wiper.

Maybe he meant a bidet?

224 lawhawk  Oct 6, 2014 5:48:52pm

re: #216 jaunte

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

I didn’t know he still plays with Matchbox cars. /

Seriously though, is that really something to boast about? Is that something a real journalist would boast about? Heck, Jeremy Clarkson has driven a Bugatti Veyron. Circle gets the square.

225 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 5:49:20pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

It seems a strange thing to mention.

I drove a Porsche once, but I don’t consider that a part of my identity. (It was too much car for me.)

226 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 5:49:32pm

It’s simple how SSM will cause more divorces. The Gheys will get the best of the caterers, florists and bakers. Then the Straights will have to settle for what’s left. Then their wedding won’t be the Fairybook Princess extravaganza that she had dreamed about since she was 5. The wife how harbors bitter hostility about the ceremony, which she transfers to her husband. Her husband, to escape her constant and continual harping about her ruined life take refuge in the arms a cheap floozy. This leads to the divorce, and the children being sold off to work in South American zinc mines.

Any idiot can see it coming. I’m sure CCJ sees it.

RBS

227 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 5:50:23pm

re: #216 jaunte

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

He’s also vetted, weighed, measured and gently tongued each of Ted Cruz’s middle aged testicles, and found them to be satisfactory.

228 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:50:49pm

Oh man. That song Chuck is calling a “Communist song?” By Florence Reece, who literally a coal miner’s daughter?

Reece wrote it when she was 12 years old.

Pretty young to be a goddamn commie.

229 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 5:51:15pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

He’s also vetted, weighed, measured and gently tongued each of Ted Cruz’s middle aged testicles, and found them to be satisfactory.

Not sure exactly where the line is, but check your rearview mirror….

RBS

230 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:51:46pm

I was trying not to write about Chuck and his stupidity, but I may have to do an article on this one.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 5:51:49pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Oh man. That song Chuck is calling a “Communist song?” By Florence Reece, who literally a coal miner’s daughter?

Reece wrote it when she was 12 years old.

Pretty young to be a goddamn commie.

union thugs start young.

232 b.d.  Oct 6, 2014 5:51:58pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Oh man. That song Chuck is calling a “Communist song?” By Florence Reece, who literally a coal miner’s daughter?

Reece wrote it when she was 12 years old.

Pretty young to be a goddamn commie.

You know who also was 12 once? Karl Marx! And Lenin!

233 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 5:52:38pm

I once heard on the radio a pompous, oxycontin-addicted, thrice-divorced asshole make fun of a gay couple getting divorced. Because divorce is so funny when teh gayz do it.

234 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:52:54pm

Okay, I feel like I’m missing something. What was that ‘communist song’ that they sang? “We are the World?”

235 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:52:59pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

I drove a Porsche once, but I don’t consider that a part of my identity. (It was too much car for me.)

Porsches have a reputation of being too much car for a lot of people. Some were even good race car drivers.

That’s what happens when you drive something with all that weight and power beyond the wheel base as in the original rear engined 911 series cars.

Fantastic when everything is going as planned. Scary when you get the feeling the rear end is about to pass you in a turn!

236 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 5:53:07pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

I was trying not to write about Chuck and his stupidity, but I may have to do an article on this one.

Yes, please.

237 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 5:54:02pm

re: #216 jaunte

Still laughing at “I’ve driven a BMW.”

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

It seems a strange thing to mention.

A blurb by the RW think sump that gave him a writing award mentioned he was 21 and planning to go to LA to learn to drive.

238 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 5:54:36pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

From the Harlan County Coal War:

“Which Side Are You On?” is a song written by Florence Reece in 1931. Reece was the wife of Sam Reece, a union organizer for the United Mine Workers in Harlan County, Kentucky. In 1931, the miners of that region were locked in a bitter and violent struggle with the mine owners called the Harlan County War. In an attempt to intimidate the Reece family, Sheriff J. H. Blair and his men (hired by the mining company) illegally entered their family home in search of Sam Reece. Sam had been warned in advance and escaped, but Florence and their children were terrorized in his place. That night, after the men had gone, Florence wrote the lyrics to “Which Side Are You On?” on a calendar that hung in the kitchen of her home>
en.wikipedia.org

239 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:54:41pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

He’s also vetted, weighed, measured and gently tongued each of Ted Cruz’s middle aged testicles, and found them to be satisfactory.

Ewwww. That was uncomfortably funny.

240 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 5:55:09pm

re: #139 ObserverArt

Well, that explains a lot. I had not caught that. Was that posted here?

Gateway Pundit aka Dim Jim even directed an angry tweet at LGF for “picking on an autistic man” not that I give a flip. If he wants to dish it out he better be prepared to receive some back.

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 5:55:26pm

Florence Reece:

Youtube Video

242 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 5:55:31pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Oh man. That song Chuck is calling a “Communist song?” By Florence Reece, who literally a coal miner’s daughter?

Reece wrote it when she was 12 years old.

Pretty young to be a goddamn commie.

Pffft. A product of unionists. Same thing.

///

243 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 5:55:49pm

re: #237 Decatur Deb

A blurb by the RW think sump that gave him a writing award mentioned he was 21 and planning to LA to learn to drive.

And instead he ended up in his mother-in-law’s basement in Sacramento begging for money to fund his “award-winning” journalism. Life is awesome like that.

244 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 5:55:57pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, I feel like I’m missing something. What was that ‘communist song’ that they sang? “We are the World?”

“Which Side Are You On?”

It’s absolutely NOT a “communist song.” That’s just incredibly stupid. It was written during the Harlan County mining strikes, when mining company thugs were beating and killing union organizers.

245 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 5:56:18pm

re: #242 ObserverArt

Pffft. A product of unionists. Same thing.

///

A Red Diaper baby from union marxists. ////

RBS

246 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:57:15pm

re: #238 jaunte

From the Harlan County Coal War:

Oh, well, in that case, fuck Chuckie sideways with rusty straight razors.

“Communist song”. Asshole.

247 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 5:57:19pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

“Which Side Are You On?”

It’s absolutely NOT a “communist song.” That’s just incredibly stupid. It was written during the Harlan County mining strikes, when mining company thugs were beating and killing union organizers.

These people call the Wall Street Journal a Marxist rag. (Though CCJ once worked there.)

248 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:58:13pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

“Which Side Are You On?”

It’s absolutely NOT a “communist song.” That’s just incredibly stupid. It was written during the Harlan County mining strikes, when mining company thugs were beating and killing union organizers.

But, you know, he’s not Conservative, he’s not Libertarian - he’s Anti-Establishment!

249 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 5:58:39pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

These people call the Wall Street Journal a Marxist rag. (Though CCJ once worked there.)

Ink spreader?

250 CuriousLurker  Oct 6, 2014 5:58:39pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

Gah—brain bleach, stat!

251 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 5:59:30pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Gah—brain bleach, stat!

252 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 6:00:59pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florence Reece:

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Video

Thank you for finding/posting that.

Charles, please add to post?

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:01:48pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Oh man. That song Chuck is calling a “Communist song?” By Florence Reece, who literally a coal miner’s daughter?

Reece wrote it when she was 12 years old.

Pretty young to be a goddamn commie.

THAT HOW THEY START THEM YOUNG IT TEH YOONYUNS DOWN IN TEH COAL MINES!!1!!1!!!

254 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:02:14pm
255 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 6:03:41pm

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

THAT HOW THEY START THEM YOUNG IT TEH YOONYUNS DOWN IN TEH COAL MINES!!1!!1!!!

Or, in the Ford plants in Detroit. Hotbeds all!!!

256 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 6:04:00pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florence Reece:

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Video

Awesome video. This woman was a heroine, and Chuck and Jim Hoft smear her without even thinking, as a “communist.”

These people are ASSHOLES.

257 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 6:06:25pm

My Twitter timeline just blew up with Front Range corridor sunsets.

258 TedStriker  Oct 6, 2014 6:06:26pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

Porsches have a reputation of being too much car for a lot of people. Some were even good race car drivers.

That’s what happens when you drive something with all that weight and power beyond the wheel base as in the original rear engined 911 series cars.

Fantastic when everything is going as planned. Scary when you get the feeling the rear end is about to pass you in a turn!

A 2005 Porsche Carrera GT, a car known to be difficult to handle under the best conditions, is what Paul Walker and his racing buddy got killed in, driving too fast on a public roadway on nine-year-old OEM tires.

259 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 6:07:22pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Awesome video. This woman was a heroine, and Chuck and Jim Hoft smear her without even thinking, as a “communist.”

These people are ASSHOLES.

Clearly this woman has ties to Saul Alinksy.
///

260 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 6:10:37pm

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

Ink spreader?

Won an internship after he graduated well.

261 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 6:11:11pm
262 Hal_10000  Oct 6, 2014 6:13:59pm

Cruz’s position is not inconsistent at all. “Strict constitutionalist” doesn’t mean you can’t amend the Constitution. In fact that’s precisely what it means: if you want to change the Constitution, you have to amend it, not use “living document” BS to over-ride the plain language.

That having been said, this is theater. You probably couldn’t get 2/3 of Republicans to vote for a marriage amendment today. In the last poll, a good third of Republicans were in favor of same-sex marriage and opposition was waning.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 6:14:11pm

If anyone would care to retweet:

264 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2014 6:15:07pm

Hoft and ChuckC wouldn’t know a communist if one jumped out and bit them on the ass. This is even though the latter is a vital organ for them since it is the source of their information and therefore of their livelihood.

265 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 6:15:16pm

Again I’m torn between writing something about Chuck’s nasty bullshit or just ignoring it. He writes this crap because he wants people to react to it, obviously, and as I started writing an article about it I realized I’d just be doing what he wants.

On the other hand, his evil crap is getting linked at Drudge Report and lots of other right wing sites, and when that happens it’s usually a bad idea to ignore it — it just gets worse, like a wart.

266 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 6:15:49pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

If anyone would care to retweet:

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See where it says 1 RETWEET on there? That’s me!

267 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 6:17:33pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Again I’m torn between writing something about Chuck’s nasty bullshit or just ignoring it. He writes this crap because he wants people to react to it, obviously, and as I started writing an article about it I realized I’d just be doing what he wants.

On the other hand, his evil crap is getting linked at Drudge Report and lots of other right wing sites, and when that happens it’s usually a bad idea to ignore it — it just gets worse, like a wart.

You could write about Florence Reece and the song. Don’t mention the idiot twins by name.

268 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 6, 2014 6:19:27pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

You could write about Florence Reece and the song. Don’t mention the idiot twins by name.

And post the Mike Brown Requiem. From the story that Shaun King wrote from Kos.

I would love to see the Requiem posted.

269 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 6:19:58pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Again I’m torn between writing something about Chuck’s nasty bullshit or just ignoring it. He writes this crap because he wants people to react to it, obviously, and as I started writing an article about it I realized I’d just be doing what he wants.

On the other hand, his evil crap is getting linked at Drudge Report and lots of other right wing sites, and when that happens it’s usually a bad idea to ignore it — it just gets worse, like a wart.

Not going to fake a psych profile over the Internet, but there is something about CCJ that suggests messing with him is like attacking the disabled. If his people want him to enjoy that kind of immunity, however, they owe the rest of us an intervention.

270 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 6:21:17pm

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel

Hoft and ChuckC wouldn’t know a communist if one jumped out and bit them on the ass. This is even though the latter is a vital organ for them since it is the source of their information and therefore of their livelihood.

They remind me of the twit I dealt with earlier today using the moniker “neoliberal” claiming that the Nazi’s were leftists. Truth & history is inimical to the modern right wing, like garlic or a wooden stake to a vampire…

271 A Mom Anon  Oct 6, 2014 6:22:00pm

re: #158 b.d.

There are assholes in EVERY group of people.

I have known, over the years, more than the average number of people on the autism spectrum. I have NEVER met one person on the spectrum who went out of their way to be an asshole.

Being an asshole is separate from being autistic. People on the spectrum have enough bullshit thrown down as obstacles in front of them. This assberet does enough damage on any given day, my family and families like mine would really appreciate it A LOT if this lying sack od crap wasn’t held up as some sort of example of how autistic people behave. His assholishness isn’t part of his autism, it’s part of his being an asshole.

272 Belafon  Oct 6, 2014 6:22:40pm

re: #262 Hal_10000

I’d be curious where the term “living document” first appeared. It’s as useful as “originalist”.

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 6:22:56pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Again I’m torn between writing something about Chuck’s nasty bullshit or just ignoring it. He writes this crap because he wants people to react to it, obviously, and as I started writing an article about it I realized I’d just be doing what he wants.

On the other hand, his evil crap is getting linked at Drudge Report and lots of other right wing sites, and when that happens it’s usually a bad idea to ignore it — it just gets worse, like a wart. tumor.

Charles, I’d not normally pull this on your posts but it’s important to remember. A wart only makes things ugly. Cancer kills.

Dim Jim & CC are a cancer on the soul of this nation.

274 ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2014 6:27:51pm

Later…early to bed to further fight a small cold.

But I do not have a fever! Whew.

Have fun on the little green planet.

275 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 6:32:18pm

re: #262 Hal_10000

That having been said, this is theater. You probably couldn’t get 2/3 of Republicans to vote for a marriage amendment today.

How are you going to get it ratified by 3/4 of the states (38 of the 50 states) afterwards anyway?

276 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 6:40:11pm

Another recording of Florence Reece:

Youtube Video

277 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 6:40:26pm
278 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 6:46:24pm

Couldn’t help myself.

279 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 6:48:02pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

Couldn’t help myself.

@goddamnedfrank: How is babby formed?
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Eh, might as well add context. We have had an influx of hatchlings.

Youtube Video

280 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 6:48:51pm

Pete Seeger: ‘Which side are you on’

Youtube Video

281 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:49:20pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Again I’m torn between writing something about Chuck’s nasty bullshit or just ignoring it. He writes this crap because he wants people to react to it, obviously, and as I started writing an article about it I realized I’d just be doing what he wants.

On the other hand, his evil crap is getting linked at Drudge Report and lots of other right wing sites, and when that happens it’s usually a bad idea to ignore it — it just gets worse, like a wart.

I can understand that you want to correct the evil shit he Tweets because you don’t like people thinking that he’s you.

OTOH he is a sociopath, a little wannabee Glenn Greenwald, but without Glenn’s wit, charm, and mad journalism skills.//

Like Glenn, he knows it’s all bullshit but he wants the attentions.

282 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:49:50pm
283 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 6:51:25pm

The full article is behind a paywall (I’ve read it as my family has a subscription), but here’s a link to National Review I don’t think folks here will object to:

Forget the Alamo
Senator Cruz does not understand how to win national elections
By Henry Olsen

Senator Ted Cruz is a bright man with a bright idea: Conservatives have no power because their leaders have no principles. Rediscover the latter, he says, and we will recover the former. Would that it were so.

Start with Cruz’s retelling of Republican presidential history. He claims that beginning with Richard Nixon, every Republican nominee who was elected ran as a “strong conservative,” while every loser ran as a moderate. Cruz was born in December 1970 and clearly has hazy memories at best of the 1968 and 1972 races, the latter of which saw National Review endorse John Ashbrook, a conservative congressman from Ohio, in the GOP primaries rather than Nixon. Be that as it may, this is an all-too-simple formulation that overlooks the way politically successful conservatives have always tempered parts of the conservative agenda precisely to gain a principled majority.

Ronald Reagan, whom Cruz frequently invokes in support of his argument, happens to be the best example of this approach. In 1964, the Gipper opposed the creation of Medicare, but in 1980 he frequently said he would not try to eliminate or even reform the program. Reagan recognized that it was better to focus on the things he could change than on those he couldn’t. He understood that principle and prudence are tightly intertwined.

It’s possible that the country has moved to the right since Reagan’s day, making a more consistent conservatism politically possible. That indeed is the unstated assumption of Cruz’s idea: that an unwavering conservative majority already exists if only we find the courage to mobilize it. Again, would that it were so. All the available data show that this is not true.

284 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 6:52:21pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

I object to ALL links to that racist rag.

285 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 6:53:34pm

Jumpin’ Jerwilligers! They take their college football in Alabama very seriously.

Youtube Video

286 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 6:53:36pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Eh, might as well add context. We have had an influx of hatchlings.

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Context is for lepers.

287 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 6:54:35pm

re: #286 goddamnedfrank

Context is for lepers.

OK. What’s the running list? Sarc tags, context…I’m missing a couple of things, I know it.

288 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 6:56:06pm

And its not just Olsen, either, as today in an article praising Marco Rubio Eliana Johnson also took a whack at Ted Cruz:

Rubio’s disciplined and methodical approach to foreign policy — he has articulated his views over the past two years in several speeches around the world — presents a stark contrast, say multiple foreign-policy experts, to that of his tea-party colleague Ted Cruz. A Cruz adviser last week told National Journal that the Texas senator will almost certainly mount a presidential bid in 2016 and plans to run on a “foreign-policy platform.”

“Whereas Rubio clearly has some views that he has considered and articulated, my sense of Cruz is that he is much less formed by conviction,” says one foreign-policy expert who has met with both potential candidates. “His background was really more on the domestic side.”

Cruz has repeatedly said he embraces a Reaganite foreign policy. He made headlines in recent weeks for walking out of an event when a group of Arab Christians booed his vocal defense of Israel, and he has used his seat on the Armed Services Committee to travel abroad during his time in office. But those I spoke with were, across the board, unimpressed. They universally characterized his worldview as shallow, opportunistic, and ever shifting to where he perceives the base of the party to be.

A former senior Bush administration defense official criticized the Texas senator in particular for his failure, as a member of the Armed Services Committee, to advocate for raising the defense budget. “He’s basically not done anything that I’m aware of to put an end to the hemorrhaging in the Defense Department, so it rings a little hollow,” he says. “It’s one thing to posture, it’s another thing to have a consistent policy. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t develop one. I don’t want to write him up as a lost cause, but he has a long way to go before he could be considered on the same bar as Rubio, considered to have a coherent world view.”

Bolding mine.

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 6:56:41pm

re: #282 Pie-onist Overlord

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Not a big cabbage guy (outside of a not too wet ‘slaw) but that look nummy.

290 TedStriker  Oct 6, 2014 6:57:05pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

The full article is behind a paywall (I’ve read it as my family has a subscription), but here’s a link to National Review I don’t think folks here will object to:

re: #284 wrenchwench

I object to ALL links to that racist rag.

The fact that Dark’s family has a sub for National Review, whether it’s dead-tree, online, or both, and that’s he’s willing to use it here to make an argument, despite all of the evidence documented at LGF and elsewhere about their institutional racism and general dumbfuckery, speaks volumes.

291 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 6:57:12pm

re: #287 teleskiguy

OK. What’s the running list? Sarc tags, context…I’m missing a couple of things, I know it.

Smart phones and Spotify.

Listening to Spotify on smart phones is for epic level lepers.

292 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 6:57:25pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

I’m so finished with the National Review. It’s a horrible publication promoting horrible ideas, staffed by horrible people.

Sorry, man, but these are the worst people in American politics, and if they publish something that sounds reasonable, my response is to ask “what’s in it for them?”

All I want is for people like this to be defeated.

293 Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2014 6:58:01pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

Jumpin’ Jerwilligers! They take their college football in Alabama very seriously.

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Video

We have put people in jail over the “Bama/Auburn rivalry.

294 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 6:58:10pm

re: #284 wrenchwench

I object to ALL links to that racist rag.

Your objection is noted. I posted those links to make clear that Cruz is coming under fire from within the right as well as from the left. He’s catching such fire because he can’t articulate a strategy that can win elections or wars.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:58:44pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

The full article is behind a paywall (I’ve read it as my family has a subscription), but here’s a link to National Review I don’t think folks here will object to:

DO NOT LINK TO NATIONAL REVIEW, EVER. THAT IS ALL.

296 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 6:58:50pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

I read a @NROCorner blog post this morning about the folks who sang “Which Side Are You On?” for justice in St. Louis on Saturday. The comments section was indistinguishable from Gateway Fucking Pundit.

National Review fucking sucks, dude.

297 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 6:59:07pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Your objection is noted. I posted those links to make clear that Cruz is coming under fire from within the right as well as from the left. He’s catching such fire because he can’t articulate a strategy that can win elections or wars.

Use donotlink if you must.

298 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 6:59:10pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

I won’t ding you over it DF but they burned their bridges a while ago with me. I won’t bother with them even for their stopped clock moments.

They have sold what they had left of their soul to become, truly, nothing but National Racists Online and I will not give them even a Google cache read anymore.

299 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2014 7:00:44pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Your objection is noted. I posted those links to make clear that Cruz is coming under fire from within the right as well as from the left. He’s catching such fire because he can’t articulate a strategy that can win elections or wars.

You mean even people on the Right see him as a principle-less, smarmy con man? Good.

Now if only they’d apply some reason to their totally fucked up views on economics.

300 Hal_10000  Oct 6, 2014 7:01:07pm

re: #275 ausador

You’re not. This was obvious when Bush was pushing the marriage amendment in 2004. It’s theater. And thankfully, this particular theater is playing to an increasingly tiny audience.

301 klys  Oct 6, 2014 7:02:07pm

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

You mean even people on the Right see him as a principle-less, smarmy con man? Good.

Now if only they’d apply some reason to their totally fucked up views on economics.

The funny thing is, DF seems to think this means they won’t vote for him.

302 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 6, 2014 7:02:17pm

You can get rid of cabbage smell in the kitchen by boiling a sliced lemon

303 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 7:02:50pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

Jumpin’ Jerwilligers! They take their college football in Alabama very seriously.

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One thing I learned early when I moved to the South, the only thing more important than Religion for some people is College football. I believe in Alabama on the birth certificate, along with spaces for the parents names is a check box for “Alabama” or “Auburn”. I understand that it can be changed legally later one, but one has to petition a special 3 judge panel.

RBS

304 bratwurst  Oct 6, 2014 7:03:42pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

He’s catching such fire because he can’t articulate a strategy that can win elections or wars.

But of course, if the cesspool of racists over there thought he COULD win a national election, he…uh…wouldn’t be catching a lot of fire.

305 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 7:04:27pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Your objection is noted. I posted those links to make clear that Cruz is coming under fire from within the right as well as from the left. He’s catching such fire because he can’t articulate a strategy that can win elections or wars.

So the fuck what? There are still two brain cells to rub togather among the Republicans. Every fucking Republican is willing to criticize the others, but when it’s time to get elected, they’ll screw over every woman, person of color, non-cisgender, poor person they need to in order to get the job done.

Your political views neglect to take humanity into account.

306 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 7:05:40pm

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

Use donotlink if you must.

This is why Dark is obviously trolling when he links NRO. Donotlink has been explained and demonstrated several times here.

307 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 7:05:53pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Your objection is noted. I posted those links to make clear that Cruz is coming under fire from within the right as well as from the left.

No, he isn’t. This is theater. When he runs for President the National Review will eagerly promote him. Watch.

308 klys  Oct 6, 2014 7:06:25pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

So the fuck what? There are still two brain cells to rub togather among the Republicans. Every fucking Republican is willing to criticize the others, but when it’s time to get elected, they’ll screw over every woman, person of color, non-cisgender, poor person they need to in order to get the job done.

Your political views neglect to take humanity into account.

Rah rah go team!

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309 TedStriker  Oct 6, 2014 7:07:33pm

re: #308 klys

Rah rah go team!

///

Yeah, pretty much.

310 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 7:08:58pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

No, he isn’t. This is theater. When he runs for President the National Review will eagerly promote him. Watch.

NR will likely endorse whoever the Republican nominee is over Hillary Clinton, it’s a fact. But they won’t be pulling for Cruz in the primary, I assure you.

311 wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2014 7:09:36pm

Later, lizards.

312 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 7:09:52pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

Every fucking Republican is willing to criticize the others, but when it’s time to get elected, they’ll screw over every woman, person of color, non-cisgender, poor person they need to in order to get the job done.

It has been tough to make out much difference between Cruz, Rubio and Jindal.

313 klys  Oct 6, 2014 7:09:58pm

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

NR will likely endorse whoever the Republican nominee is over Hillary Clinton, it’s a fact. But they won’t be pulling for Cruz in the primary, I assure you.

Impressive principles they have there.

Really.

Are you sure that support isn’t going behind someone else just because Cruz’s last name sounds too brown?

314 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 7:13:03pm

re: #313 klys

Impressive principles they have there.

Really.

Are you sure that support isn’t going behind someone else just because Cruz’s last name sounds too brown?

Given that Johnson’s article praises Marco Rubio, who is more Latino than Cruz by parentage; Yeah, I’m pretty sure she’s not going after Rubio because his father is Cuban.

315 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2014 7:13:54pm

Thunder and lightning is almost here, and Gus’ avatar on twitter tonight is starting to scare me.
:D

niterz all!

316 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 7:14:55pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

The column inches wasted on the supposed debate over how far right a successful GOP candidate needs to be are moot. No candidate can proceed past the primaries without espousing far right and devoutly Christian ideologies. He is then forced to suddenly moderate his views ahead of the general election to appeal to moderates within the party and independents without.

That makes the far right base that saw him through the primaries feel betrayed and causes those he is now trying to appeal to question his true beliefs. It just isn’t a winning strategy…

317 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 7:17:07pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

This probably ought to be an email, but I don’t have your address…

DF, can I remind you of the comment attributed to St Francis? “Preach the gospel at all times. Only when necessary, use words.” Look at what people are truly preaching with their actions. Look carefully at NRO especially.

What they are preaching is not good and, on those rare occasions it sounds like they are, you need to step back and ask “what are they getting from this?” because nothing else they are doing fits that activity.

Do what You can to do what is right. Do not worry about what the “team” says is right. In the Didache it says “For if you are able to bear the entire yoke of the Lord, you will be perfect; but if you are not able, then at least do what you can.” Just try to make the world better. Quoting the NRO is not that. But you have done that at other times. We’ve seen it here. Listen to that part of your soul instead.

318 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 7:19:40pm

Some hopeful news:

US Ebola patient gets experimental anti-viral drug as he continues to fight for his life

US Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan is now receiving doses if an experimental anti-viral drug as he continues to fight for his life in a Texas hospital.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital announced today that doctors had begun administering brincidofovir, which has shown promise in fighting the disease.

The dug, developed by North Carolina-based Chimerix, is approved for the treatment of the herpes virus.

Duncan’s doctors got permission from the federal government to use the drug after his condition took a dramatic turn for the worse.

319 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 7:20:14pm

Here’s National Review’s blog post (donotlink.com is used) on the 2 minute “What Side Are You On” protest at the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra on Saturday.

Some comments:

The big thug got justice, swift justice. So what’s their beef?

[…]

Did our “demonstrators” draw upon Big Mike’s “rapper” effusions for material? You know, the lyrics having to do with violence, drugs and masterbation?

[…]

Note the white guy, front house right (seen at 0:54), standing and singing. I would invite him and his female friend to take a jaunt through East St. Louis, or many other fine neighborhoods in and around the St. Louis area, after the concert concludes. Then let him ask me “which side I’m on,” if he’s still alive.

[…]

I favor fully-armed and armored cops at all public events around St. Louis, at least until this all calms down. We are no longer troubled by the thug, Michael Brown. But clearly there are others in need of a correction.

320 Amory Blaine  Oct 6, 2014 7:20:14pm
321 Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2014 7:25:52pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

How does someone graduate “well”?

I think that is the category just above “doesn’t spill his soup on his shirt”.

322 Dark_Falcon  Oct 6, 2014 7:27:51pm

re: #319 teleskiguy

If I based which websites I read on the comments section, there wouldn’t be very many I could go to.

323 klys  Oct 6, 2014 7:30:26pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

If I based which websites I read on the comments section, there wouldn’t be very many I could go to.

You know, CNN’s comments are a cesspool, but there are at least people pushing back against the outright racist derp.

Maybe you should ask yourself why the audience at NRO has such a high percentage of racists and why they might feel comfortable reading those articles.

324 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 7:30:59pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

If I based which websites I read on the comments section, there wouldn’t be very many I could go to.

How about the menagerie of racist writers NR has employed and freely associated with? Face it man, that place is a fucking sewer. It may be a nice looking, marble walled sewer with an awesome pedigree, but it’s still full of shit now.

325 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 7:31:55pm

re: #319 teleskiguy

Here’s National Review’s blog post (donotlink.com is used).

Some comments:

The National Review is a vile publication, promoting an ugly ideology. On the rare occasions that they publish something that sounds reasonable on the surface, it’s a facade that consciously attempts to conceal a rotten core.

Derbyshire and the other white nationalists who’ve been outed recently at NRO were not flukes. This is what they stand for, and what they promote, and like all far right racists they sometimes try to conceal it.

326 BlueSpotinAL  Oct 6, 2014 7:32:42pm

The coal miner’s daughter reminds me of John Prine’s Paradise: Youtube Video

327 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 7:33:11pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

If I based which websites I read on the comments section, there wouldn’t be very many I could go to.

Fair enough. But those commenting are readers of the websites. Are blog post comments not at least somewhat representative of the readership of said blog?

328 gwangung  Oct 6, 2014 7:33:36pm

re: #174 lawhawk

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Match his “top school” with mine. Doubt I’ll be impressed.

(Though most of who DO go to “top schools” know that it’s an argument usually dragged out by the posers and losers).

329 palomino  Oct 6, 2014 7:35:28pm

This is how you set the groundwork for a presidential bid if you’re a Republican. Especially one like Cruz, whose strategy seems to consist of, “No one will be to my right on ANY issue. I’m the most real and true conservative in the gop.”

Not that any other Republicans are likely to have substantially different views on same sex marriage; after all, they want the nomination too. But Cruz will highlight his rabid right wing relligious credentials in a way that even some other Republicans (like Jeb and Rand) probably couldn’t pull off. He’s a “real” Christian soldier. Watch him duke it out with Rev. Perry.

330 palomino  Oct 6, 2014 7:43:01pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

And its not just Olsen, either, as today in an article praising Marco Rubio Eliana Johnson also took a whack at Ted Cruz:

Bolding mine.

More NRO? Really? As far as bolstering your political arguments, you might as well be linking to Mad Magazine or a Pottery Barn catalog.

Here’s a suggestion: stop linking to that shitty rag. How many vile racists and hateful sexists have to be exposed among their columnists before you realize there are far better conservative sources? How many Derbyshires and Williamsons does one publication have to have before you realize it’s rotten to the core?

You’re essentially just trolling now since you know the incredibly low opinion most lizards have of your favorite right wing publication.

331 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 7:45:07pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

If I based which websites I read on the comments section, there wouldn’t be very many I could go to.

So what does that tell you?

332 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 7:46:55pm

re: #308 klys

Rah rah go team!

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Dark_Falcon - good sport that he is commenting here for years on end - has only this argument to fall back on here at LGF. The Republican party, as we regulars (minus DF) know it is an atavistic cesspool of detrimental ideas and reactionary politics.

Dark_Falcon, I’m baffled by your continued defense of such a backward-thinking political party. It’s stupid, and it’s getting old. All I see is RAH RAH RAH MY TEAM IS BETTER, and you can obfuscate and be as verbose as ever but it’s still “GO TEAM RED GO!” every time and it’s fucking stupid and not convincing me at all.

333 palomino  Oct 6, 2014 7:49:57pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

OK, so Cruz is even dumber and more reckless than Rubio. Tell us something we don’t already know.

You don’t really need waste like NRO to prove such an obvious point.

334 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 7:50:02pm

re: #46 jaunte

I interviewed for a teaching job at Awty back in 1991, unsuccessfully. Here’s what happened.

Arranged for an interview, booked tickets.
The night before my departure, my father died.
I asked to postpone interview. Awty agreed.
Two weeks later, I visited the school, and had an interview, taught a sample lesson. All went well.
A few days later, I learned that they had filled the open position soon after my postponed interview. In other words, I flew down to Dallas for no reason.

That was as close as I ever came to moving to Texas.

335 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 7:53:27pm

re: #332 teleskiguy

Oh, I understand why he finds it so hard to walk away from what his family has taught him. I’m grateful he keeps posting here because I, personally, believe that based on how I have seen him behave he is able to grow beyond that. There is a spirit that will guide him when he’s ready to listen.

336 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:02:00pm

re: #335 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh, I understand why he finds it so hard to walk away from what his family has taught him. I’m grateful he keeps posting here because I, personally, believe that based on how I have seen him behave he is able to grow beyond that. There is a spirit that will guide him when he’s ready to listen.

You’re right. It’s just hard for me to grasp how he can continue to be the loyal opposition. There’s the gun-fucker stuff and the glowing National Review links that spring to my mind. It’s tolerated here. There’s pushback, to be sure, but it’s still tolerated, I guess because Lizards are tolerant or whatever.

DF is a polite and often thoughtful commenter here, but he’s also very consistently wrong on politics and policy.

337 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 8:04:05pm

Well, I’m outta here. This is for Dr. Lizardo in particular, and the car people in general. It’s a Tata, but not sure year or model. Taken at Lane Auto Museum in Nashville. (I usually get a shot of the placard before I take pictures, missed it that time)

RBS

338 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:05:03pm

BAM! POW! ZAP!

339 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 8:08:58pm

Christians frequently employ the “Jesus ended mosaic law” rule to selectively ignore part of the Old Testament, but what is their excuse for ignoring the more fucked up passages of the New Testament?

340 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 8:09:23pm

re: #336 teleskiguy

You’re right. It’s just hard for me to grasp how he can continue to be the loyal opposition. There’s the gun-fucker stuff and the glowing National Review links that spring to my mind. It’s tolerated here. There’s pushback, to be sure, but it’s still tolerated, I guess because Lizards are tolerant or whatever.

DF is a polite and often thoughtful commenter here, but he’s also very consistently wrong on politics and policy.

That may well be. OTOH, I should pray that all my opponents would be so honorable. I’ll take DF over ever every other Republican I’ve seen known other than the last two I voted for: Congressman Scott Gunderson & Governor Lee Sherman Dreyfus.

If you read this DF, I’ve known them both personally. You’re in hella good company. Don’t fuck it up.

341 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:10:46pm

re: #339 goddamnedfrank

UpChuck can’t even spell “LIFE” correctly. “The truth, the way and the live (at Red Rocks! The Second Coming!)”

342 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 8:13:11pm

re: #341 teleskiguy

UpChuck can’t even spell “LIFE” correctly. “The truth, the way and the live (at Red Rocks! The Second Coming!)”

I think I saw Jesus at Monterey…. Yea, he was opening for Santana I think.

RBS

343 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 8:15:07pm
344 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:16:02pm
345 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 8:18:10pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

And he’s quoting Rafael Cruz for fuck’s sake.

346 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 8:18:39pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson
If the Bible is clear about anything it’s clear about the value of life.

And this is what he’s doing with his.

347 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 6, 2014 8:18:57pm

re: #343 goddamnedfrank

True. But Matthew 25:31-46 is why those rat rapers need to pray that the atheists are right.

348 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:28:39pm

re: #328 gwangung

Match his “top school” with mine. Doubt I’ll be impressed.

(Though most of who DO go to “top schools” know that it’s an argument usually dragged out by the posers and losers).

Personally, I tend not to boast about where I graduated from, preferring to say I went to college in New Jersey. Part of it is modesty, another part of it is the “Ooh! That’s a top school!” reaction from other people.

Sure, the Ivies are “top schools,” but you can get a superb education at hundreds of other colleges and unis all over the USA. Bragging about your alma mater is just low class.

349 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 8:29:03pm
350 Amory Blaine  Oct 6, 2014 8:29:54pm

A doctor and a rocket scientist.

351 freetoken  Oct 6, 2014 8:30:25pm

re: #350 Amory Blaine

A doctor and a rocket scientist.

And a Bible scholar and theologian.

352 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 8:30:53pm
353 Amory Blaine  Oct 6, 2014 8:31:28pm

354 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:32:02pm

re: #337 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I’m outta here. This is for Dr. Lizardo in particular, and the car people in general. It’s a Tata, but not sure year or model. Taken at Lane Auto Museum in Nashville. (I usually get a shot of the placard before I take pictures, missed it that time)

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RBS

I think it’s spelled Tatra. Jay Leno did a piece on one at jay Leno’s Garage. Interesting engineering: it had an air-cooled V8 in the rear.

355 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 8:32:33pm
356 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:33:16pm

re: #351 freetoken

And a Bible scholar and theologian.

And a virologist.

357 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:39:26pm

Yeah, the sunset tonight in the Colorado Front Range Corridor was rather spectacular tonight. My best friend’s sister snapped this picture in Boulder.

instagram.com

358 Kid A  Oct 6, 2014 8:39:47pm

re: #356 wheat-dogghazi

And a virologist.

And a derpologist.

359 ausador  Oct 6, 2014 8:40:20pm

There seems to be a bit of a design problem with this toy…

Youtube Video

360 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 8:41:15pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

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361 Mentis Fugit  Oct 6, 2014 8:41:19pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

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So leave the fucking planet already.

362 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:42:31pm

Here’s what I have learned about Charles C. Johnson, from his tweets.

He’s an award-winning journalist.
He’s been to Indonesia.
He’s been building rockets since he was 6.
He likes to threaten to sue people.
He graduated well from top schools.
He had an Asian girlfriend in college.
Their relationship was not well.
His Asian wife is “hot.”
She is an Indonesian Christian.
He is fat and dumpy.
He’s a ginger.
He knows virology.
He knows theology.
He knows the Bible.
He understands Asians.

Did I leave anything out?

363 Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2014 8:44:06pm

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi

Here’s what I have learned about Charles C. Johnson, from his tweets.

He’s an award-winning journalist.
He’s been to Indonesia.
He’s been building rockets since he was 6.
He likes to threaten to sue people.
He graduated well from top schools.
He had an Asian girlfriend in college.
Their relationship was not well.
His Asian wife is “hot.”
She is an Indonesian Christian.
He is fat and dumpy.
He’s a ginger.
He knows virology.
He knows theology.
He knows the Bible.
He understands Asians.

Did I leave anything out?

“The Bell Curve” changed his life.

364 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:44:56pm

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi

Here’s what I have learned about Charles C. Johnson, from his tweets.

He’s an award-winning journalist.
He’s been to Indonesia.
He’s been building rockets since he was 6.
He likes to threaten to sue people.
He graduated well from top schools.
He had an Asian girlfriend in college.
Their relationship was not well.
His Asian wife is “hot.”
She is an Indonesian Christian.
He is fat and dumpy.
He’s a ginger.
He knows virology.
He knows theology.
He knows the Bible.
He understands Asians.

Did I leave anything out?

His last memory of his grandmother is listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio with her.

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365 lostlakehiker  Oct 6, 2014 8:45:11pm

The real test of Sen Cruz’s convictions will be what he says when his amendment goes nowhere and gay marriage is ruled legal across the board.

Will he say that the constitution is our constitution, and that as the supreme law of the land it must prevail?

I’m not holding my breath.

366 goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2014 8:45:11pm

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi

Did I leave anything out?

He’s a connoisseur of fine phallic symbols.

This space for rent.

367 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 8:45:21pm

re: #354 wheat-dogghazi

I think it’s spelled Tatra. Jay Leno did a piece on one at jay Leno’s Garage. Interesting engineering: it had an air-cooled V8 in the rear.

You are correct sir… it’s not like I’ve got 30 other pics of other ones from the museum correctly labeled. Don’t know where my mind wandered off to.

RBS

368 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 6, 2014 8:46:09pm

re: #366 goddamnedfrank

He’s a connoisseur of fine phallic symbols.

This space for rent.

He’s the kind of guy that makes hipsters say “geeze dude, get real”

RBS

369 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 8:46:39pm

re: #364 teleskiguy

His fondest childhood memory is him and his grandmother listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio.

I actually felt bad for him learning that. Poor guy didn’t really have a chance with Granny pushing Rush the Hutt on him.

370 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 8:47:55pm

re: #345 Kid A

And he’s quoting Rafael Cruz for fuck’s sake.
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That was my first thought. Didn’t he say that Cruz was the only good candidate after all his research? Wasn’t there a bombshell coming in Hillary, too?

Another never-to-materialize bombshell, that is.

371 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 8:50:50pm

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi

He has too driven a BMW.

372 WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2014 8:51:35pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I think CCJ is a performance art project of Jon Lovitz’s Liar character. He’s definitely got that fine GG “it’s always all about me” thing down pat, too.

373 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:51:41pm

re: #366 goddamnedfrank

He’s a connoisseur of fine phallic symbols.

This space for rent.

Youtube Video

374 jaunte  Oct 6, 2014 8:51:50pm

Todd Kincannon’s bright idea of murdering Ebola victims made it to the Colbert Report.

375 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 8:52:28pm

He comes off to me as unbelievably insecure. Typical right wing little punk who has the fuck you, i got mine mentality that is so prevalent in that idelogy.

376 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 8:53:19pm

re: #374 jaunte

Todd Kincannon’s bright idea of murdering Ebola victims made it to the Colbert Report.

Good. That fascist fuck deserves all the criticism he can get for suggesting that as a “solution”.

377 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:54:43pm

I’ll bet this pisses UpChuck and his ilk off so fucking much!

378 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:54:53pm

re: #367 RealityBasedSteve

You are correct sir… it’s not like I’ve got 30 other pics of other ones from the museum correctly labeled. Don’t know where my mind wandered off to.

RBS

There is an Indian car manufacturer named Tata. Easy to confuse the two.

379 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 8:57:31pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

My original #364 comment has been edited and is different from this reply. Still, the essence is evident.

380 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 8:58:19pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

I’ll bet this pisses UpChuck and his ilk off so fucking much!

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I actually think it’s sad that something like that outrages them so much. I’m at that age when a lot of my friends and relatives close to me in age are settling down to get married. I mean call me a liberal bleeding heart all you want but things like inequality, poverty, and disease bother me a lot more than a same sex couple being married under the law and having the same rights as a straight one. The SSM debate is yet another debate where conservatives have their priorities way skewed.

381 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 8:59:29pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

My original #369 comment has been edited and is different from this reply. Still, the essence is evident.

True. Still sad though if that’s how he chooses to remember his grandmother.

382 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 6, 2014 8:59:47pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

He comes off to me as unbelievably insecure. Typical right wing little punk who has the fuck you, i got mine mentality that is so prevalent in that idelogy.

He’s a poser. He takes a minor achievement (he drove a Bimmer, he went to Indonesia) and inflates it into some kind of expert qualification. That might impress his base, who have not done any of those things, but for the rest of us, it’s just pathetic.

383 Mentis Fugit  Oct 6, 2014 9:00:04pm

re: #354 wheat-dogghazi

I think it’s spelled Tatra. Jay Leno did a piece on one at jay Leno’s Garage. Interesting engineering: it had an air-cooled V8 in the rear.

There was a 2000 British SF comedy, The Strangerers, set in an alternative and distinctly dystopian past. Spacefaring aliens land on earth; only their leader knows anything about their mission, and he is decapitated1 almost immediately, leaving Cadet Niven and Cadet Flynn to make their barely-ept way in the world. Think X-Files meets Red Dwarf2 meets Bottom3.
Youtube Video
Anyway, not to go off point, a Tatra features as the human investigators’ ride.

1 He gets better.
2 It was written by Rob Grant.
3 For the slapstick violence.

384 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 9:00:07pm

OK, the Twitter account is called ‘SciencePorn.’ This is still a cool tweet.

385 HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2014 9:03:10pm

And let’s just say it. Antonin Scalia is a terrible excuse for a Supreme Court justice (re: his comments on religion and secularism). That guy has no room ever to accuse any judge of being a judicial activist ever when it’s obvious he believes with his biases that the Constitution favors religion over secularism.

386 teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2014 9:10:20pm

I wonder if UpChuck will like this.

387 Editor in Chief  Oct 7, 2014 12:29:12pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

“The Bell Curve” changed his life.

Seriously?

You mean his award winning IQ, or his graduating from top schools fat and dumpy didn’t enable him to see the glaring logical problems with the book?


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