AR GOP Senate Candidate Tom Cotton: Terrorists, Immigrants and Drug Cartels Want to Infiltrate Arkansas

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GOP Rep. Tom Cotton is running for the Senate in Arkansas, and he’s the latest Republican to try to mash all the various right wing fear memes together into a hellish brew of paranoia. Immigration, terrorism, ISIS, human trafficking — all that’s missing is a chupacabra with Ebola: Tom Cotton: Terrorists Collaborating With Mexican Drug Cartels to Infiltrate Arkansas

Exhibit A: GOP Rep. Tom Cotton, who is running for Senate in Arkansas. The Congressman told a tele-town-hall meeting that the Islamic State is actively working with Mexican drug cartels who are looking to expand into the terrorism business — and that the groups, working in tandem, could infiltrate the country and attack people in Arkansas.

On audio of the town-hall, which was recorded by Arkansas Democrats, the key moment comes at around the 10:50 mark. Cotton was asked by a voter why the children crossing the border were allowed to stay for months (presumably while awaiting a court date). Cotton launched into a long answer about amnesty and the need to build a border fence, and added (emphasis mine):

“The problem is with Mark Pryor and Barack Obama refusing to enforce our immigration laws, and refusing to secure our border. I’ll change that when I’m in the United States Senate. And I would add, it’s not just an immigration problem. We now know that it’s a security problem. Groups like the Islamic State collaborate with drug cartels in Mexico who have clearly shown they’re willing to expand outside the drug trade into human trafficking and potentially even terrorism.

They could infiltrate our defenseless border and attack us right here in places like Arkansas. This is an urgent problem and it’s time we got serious about it, and I’ll be serious about it in the United States Senate.”

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443 comments

1 b.d.  Oct 7, 2014 5:53:16pm

ISIS doesn’t want to have anything to do with Arkansas, too many religious zealots there.

2 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 5:53:35pm
3 b.d.  Oct 7, 2014 5:55:06pm

ISIS is plotting to take out New York , Chicago, Los Angeles and Fayetteville.

4 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 5:57:03pm
the Islamic State is actively working with Mexican drug cartels who are looking to expand into the terrorism business — and that the groups, working in tandem, could infiltrate the country

I somehow highly doubt that a radical Islamist bunch of murderous assholes would work well with a drug-smuggling, murderous bunch of amoral assholes from a mostly-Christian country.

But stranger things have happened.

5 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 5:57:56pm

Does Tom Cotton have opposable thumbs? No?

6 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 7, 2014 5:59:11pm

If we evolved, why is there still an Arkansas? //Can’t_Explain_That!

7 b.d.  Oct 7, 2014 5:59:14pm

re: #4 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I somehow highly doubt that a radical Islamist bunch of murderous assholes would work well with a drug-smuggling, murderous bunch of amoral assholes from a mostly-Christian country.

But stranger things have happened.

Between ISIS & Mexican drug lords, my money is on the Mexican drug lords.

8 b.d.  Oct 7, 2014 6:00:02pm

re: #6 RealityBasedSteve

If we evolved, why is there still an Arkansas? //Can’t_Explain_That!

Arkansas is the transitional fossil record.

9 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:00:17pm

re: #7 b.d.

Between ISIS & Mexican drug lords, my money is on the Mexican drug lords.

Yeah, it would be a tough call, but my money would also be on the people who have built their own fucking submersibles!

10 b.d.  Oct 7, 2014 6:03:16pm

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Yeah, it would be a tough call, but my money would also be on the people who have built their own fucking submersibles!

Hi guys, you don’t know us but we are some Islamic terrorists that the US will do everything at their disposal to wipe out, mind if we hang out here for a while? Hey, btw, how’s business?

11 Decatur Deb  Oct 7, 2014 6:03:19pm

If they come by way of Texarkana, they’re spreading the lethal Boredom virus.

12 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 7, 2014 6:06:23pm

We are a country full of cowards.

13 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 6:11:11pm

What a complete #Fail. There was no Benghazi aioli in that double-decker turd sandwich.

14 Justanotherhuman  Oct 7, 2014 6:13:15pm

And to think Bill Clinton came from AR.

He’s down there stumping for the Dem candidates.

arkansasnews.com

15 lawhawk  Oct 7, 2014 6:14:01pm

Bad news coming out of Yosemite. They’re fighting another wildfire, and it appears that air traffic control lost contact with one of the air tankers.

Other outlets are reporting the single pilot plane crashed, but no word on whether they’ve found the crash site or a survivor.

16 Justanotherhuman  Oct 7, 2014 6:15:18pm

re: #15 lawhawk

California Fire spokesperson: ‘At this time were can not say how many people were on-board’ plane lost while battling fire at Yosemite National Park - @latimes
read more on latimes.com

17 Justanotherhuman  Oct 7, 2014 6:16:22pm

Later, Lizards!

Have a great evening, everyone. : )

18 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 7, 2014 6:18:56pm

Check out #FergusonFireside

19 Editor in Chief  Oct 7, 2014 6:23:15pm

Why would the drug cartels want to kill their best customers?

20 wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2014 6:23:35pm

Later, lizards.

21 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 6:24:14pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Bad news coming out of Yosemite. They’re fighting another wildfire, and it appears that air traffic control lost contact with one of the air tankers.

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Other outlets are reporting the single pilot plane crashed, but no word on whether they’ve found the crash site or a survivor.

According to a Fresno TV station, it’s a 1,200-gallon capacity plane, which would make it a S2F:

Grumman S-2 Tracker USA Medium 1,200 US gallons (4,500 L)

Former sub hunter for the Navy. Rugged little airplane w/ two big honking radials. The area around the fire is adjacent to the Merced River and has BIG elevation changes. A challenging environment for air tankers.

My best wishes for the pilots, but these things generally don’t end well. Hitting a cloud formation made of cumulo-granite never does.

Sad day.

22 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:32:37pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

Speaking of spiders … Terrifyingly Brilliant Spider Creates Stunningly Advanced Web
Original album on imgur

23 prairiefire  Oct 7, 2014 6:34:59pm

Charles C. Johnson booted from Twitter!

24 missliberties  Oct 7, 2014 6:36:08pm

So clever how they mix and mash their fears.

Just follow Glenn Beck’s advice and don’t lick the ISIS Ebola vomit that is flying across the border on muslim prayer rugs off the street.

BTW, Tom Cotton is a total right wing hack tea party fundamentalist idealogue supported by the old guard neocons with bonus helping of anti-govt tea party Americans for Prosperity.

25 TedStriker  Oct 7, 2014 6:37:56pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Charles C. Johnson booted from Twitter!

Again?

26 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 6:38:49pm

re: #24 missliberties

So clever how they mix and mash their fears.

Just follow Glenn Beck’s advice and don’t lick the ISIS Ebola vomit that is flying across the border on muslim prayer rugs off the street.

BTW, Tom Cotton is a total right wing hack tea party fundamentalist idealogue supported by the old guard neocons with bonus helping of anti-govt tea party Americans for Prosperity.

Of course he is. They all are, now.

27 Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 7, 2014 6:40:52pm

“Arkansas? What the fuck is in Arkansas?”

- ISIS fighters.

Arkansas is The Land the 20th Century Forgot, it’s true, but even with that throwback appeal, even the most 7th-century-fixated head-chopping maniac wouldn’t bother with it… Sheez.

28 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 6:42:02pm
29 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:42:21pm

re: #27 Pawn of the Oppressor

“Arkansas? What the fuck is in Arkansas?”

- ISIS fighters … And the other 49 states

FTFY

30 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 6:42:46pm
31 Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 7, 2014 6:44:07pm

Mulling this over further, I keep thinking of my dad’s comment about the Cold War and Soviet paranoia about the United States… “What do they have that we would ever want?”

THE MOOSLIMS ARE COMIN’ FER WAL MART!

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 7, 2014 6:46:18pm

I wonder if Janie Johnson and Chuck C are related. They are the Derp Twins.

33 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:46:55pm

re: #31 Pawn of the Oppressor

Mulling this over further, I keep thinking of my dad’s comment about the Cold War and Soviet paranoia about the United States… “What do they have that we would ever want?”

THE MOOSLIMS ARE COMIN’ FER WAL MART!

You know, I’m honestly surprised that Red Dawn remake didn’t use some form of radical Islamists instead of China.

34 prairiefire  Oct 7, 2014 6:47:29pm

re: #25 TedStriker

Again?

I’m sure I’m reading it after the fact.

35 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:48:20pm

re: #34 prairiefire

I’m sure I’m reading it after the fact.

Or predicting the next time. I can’t see this being his LAST Twitter suspension.

36 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 6:54:47pm
37 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:55:07pm

Totally OT, but today, I got a check in the mail from a class action lawsuit I was (unknowingly) involved in!

The haul? A whopping 21 cents! The fucking stamp cost more than the check was worth!

38 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 6:55:12pm

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Or predicting the next time. I can’t see this being his LAST Twitter suspension.

I hope they have a “three strikes and you’re out” rule. That shallow little bigoted pissant needs to get a whack from the ban stick, not to mention a clue bat.

39 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 6:57:18pm

re: #38 austin_blue

I hope they have a “three strikes and you’re out” rule. That shallow little bigoted pissant needs to get a whack from the ban stick, not to mention a clue bat.

One of the problems of Twitter, as I see it, is they don’t “tend the garden” like Charles does here (or really any quality comment section). You can’t just open the sewers and expect people to keep using your comment section. Eventually, you end up with the comments section of a local newspaper.

40 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:00:46pm

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Or predicting the next time. I can’t see this being his LAST Twitter suspension.

Yes, he’s going to do this again. Anyone can see it coming.

41 goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2014 7:01:59pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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There are also two stations in border cities. He’s overlooking San Diego.

42 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:02:56pm
43 CuriousLurker  Oct 7, 2014 7:03:17pm

re: #38 austin_blue

I hope they have a “three strikes and you’re out” rule. That shallow little bigoted pissant needs to get a whack from the ban stick, not to mention a clue bat.

Unfortunately, they don’t. Some of Charles’ stalkers have changed accounts more then three times after being repeatedly suspended. It’s like playing Whac-A-Mole.

44 Editor in Chief  Oct 7, 2014 7:04:05pm

NBC puts out an article about how the ocean below 2000 metres isn’t warming, but the ocean above 2000 metres is and the rightwing commenters think that means the ocean isn’t warming.

nbcnews.com

Jesus fuck, they’re stupid.

45 CuriousLurker  Oct 7, 2014 7:05:55pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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LOL, sounds like someone is feeling inadequate, despite the boasting.

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2014 7:06:51pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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guess he hasn’t heard of buying followers?
He could have a fundraiser for that.

47 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 7:06:57pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Oh, a penis-measuring contest! What’s the score at present?

Edit: I see it’s 10.1K(Upchuck) to 11K (the real Charles Johnson). Let the games begin!

48 Decatur Deb  Oct 7, 2014 7:07:45pm

Stars and Stripes article on the deployment to Liberia—it has a name, Operation United Assistance. Oddly, it looks like most of the 3000 troops are coming from the 101 ABN.

stripes.com

49 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 7:08:05pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

Unfortunately, they don’t. Some of Charles’ stalkers have changed accounts more then three times after being repeatedly suspended. It’s like playing Whac-A-Mole.

But Chuck is all about Chuck and he’d never *not* use his name. That ego drives him. He’s a prize-winning journo, dontcha know!

50 Belafon  Oct 7, 2014 7:08:41pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

51 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:14:07pm
52 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 7, 2014 7:14:53pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Someone is having delusions of adequacy again.

53 jaunte  Oct 7, 2014 7:15:17pm

“Use your mentality?”

That’s not going to help with his follower count.

54 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 7:16:02pm
I’m going to throw a party when I beat the lesser Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs’s follower count. Help me get there?

Or compare traffic. The Real Charles Johnson (tm) has beat CCJ’s got news every month (although this month, they’re neck and neck through this week (using compete.com - yes, I know it’s not a scientifically-valid comparison).
Let the games begin!

siteanalytics.compete.com

55 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 7:19:02pm

UpChuck was losing followers in the last month. He’ll lose followers again because he’s a bona fide asshole.

56 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 7:20:52pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

UpChuck was losing followers in the last month. He’ll lose followers again because he’s a bona fide asshole.

Yes, as people mentioned on the earlier thread, I wonder how many are “hate followers” who like watching a train wreck.

57 andres  Oct 7, 2014 7:21:25pm

re: #27 Pawn of the Oppressor

“Arkansas? What the fuck is in Arkansas?”

- ISIS fighters.

Arkansas is The Land the 20th Century Forgot, it’s true, but even with that throwback appeal, even the most 7th-century-fixated head-chopping maniac wouldn’t bother with it… Sheez.

To be honest, I liked my time in NW Arkansas. Small town feel, great people.

58 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 7:29:24pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

I’m sure your feewings are just so hurt!

Fortunately, I’m pretty sure LGF’s traffic and comment numbers will always dwarf gotnews . com.

59 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:33:02pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Traffic numbers may matter to advertisers, but I’ve never written anything at LGF just to increase our traffic and I’m not about to start.

60 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 7:34:44pm

Evening lizards! This day in sports history…

61 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 7:35:45pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Traffic numbers may matter to advertisers, but I’ve never written anything at LGF just to increase our traffic and I’m not about to start.

One of the reasons LGF is a quality site that I’ve visited everyday for 10 years.

62 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:35:56pm
63 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:36:45pm
64 TedStriker  Oct 7, 2014 7:37:13pm

re: #62 Kragar

Do you pay for your followers like you pay for your news stories? @ChuckCJohnson @Green_Footballs
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 8, 2014

Uh-oh, you better watch out…CCJ might threaten to sue you too for that crack.

/semi

65 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 7, 2014 7:38:39pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards! This day in sports history…

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RIP. Too young.

66 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 7:39:59pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards! This day in sports history…

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Jack Pardee said, “One day God woke up, took a 6’ chunk of granite, and said ‘I’m going to carve a halfback’, and he made Walter Payton.”

67 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:40:21pm
68 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 7:41:45pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

69 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:41:55pm
70 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 7:42:52pm
71 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 7, 2014 7:43:02pm

re: #68 Rightwingconspirator

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Drunk, creepy and weird with delusions of adequacy?

It would almost be worth tweeting to send that to him.

72 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 7:46:10pm
73 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 7:46:35pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Gotta keep a sense of humor, I guess.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2014 7:48:01pm
75 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:48:33pm

“NOTICE ME!”

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2014 7:50:29pm

re: #75 Kragar

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“NOTICE ME!”

OK, I’m really laughing out loud now.

77 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 7:50:56pm

A cop was shot in Chicago tonight.

78 dog philosopher  Oct 7, 2014 7:51:05pm

re: #54 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Or compare traffic. The Real Charles Johnson (tm) has beat CCJ’s got news every month (although this month, they’re neck and neck through this week (using compete.com - yes, I know it’s not a scientifically-valid comparison).
Let the games begin!

siteanalytics.compete.com

wow, flynetonline.com says my company website has a value of “2,643,070 $. “

i sure wish i could get somebody to take that seriously…

79 De Kolta Chair  Oct 7, 2014 7:51:25pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Taj Mahal — Sugar Pie Honeybunch
Youtube Video

80 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 7:52:16pm
81 jaunte  Oct 7, 2014 7:52:30pm

re: #69 Kragar

82 ipsos  Oct 7, 2014 7:53:11pm

re: #81 jaunte

And the boombox is playing Limbaugh, right?

83 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:54:21pm

re: #81 jaunte

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Pff, you and your fancy “photoshop”. Real artistes use MSPaint

84 Varek Raith  Oct 7, 2014 7:54:44pm

Anyone seen Gus lately?
Hope Obdicut is doing ok as well.

85 HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2014 7:54:59pm

Gotta keep em scared huh Tommy. ISIS isn’t going to Arkansas dumb fuck.

86 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:55:43pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

Anyone seen Gus lately?
Hope Obdicut is doing ok as well.

Obdi was not doing well. Last I heard from him was maybe 2-3 weeks ago.

87 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 7:56:04pm
88 jaunte  Oct 7, 2014 7:56:04pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

Gus was mocking the stalkers on Twitter last night.

89 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 7:56:24pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Traffic numbers may matter to advertisers, but I’ve never written anything at LGF just to increase our traffic and I’m not about to start.

I should point out that I wasn’t implying that you wrote buzz feed style shit just to juice the numbers. But if CCJ is going to travel down that rabbit hole, he’s in for a rude analytic awakening.

90 ipsos  Oct 7, 2014 7:57:00pm

re: #83 Kragar

91 Kragar  Oct 7, 2014 7:57:01pm

Well, going to watch “The Flash”

laters

92 De Kolta Chair  Oct 7, 2014 7:57:14pm

re: #83 Kragar

Picasso painted with a Wii

93 jaunte  Oct 7, 2014 7:57:25pm

re: #90 ipsos

“File Photo”

94 Decatur Deb  Oct 7, 2014 8:03:25pm

It take a red-headed man make a long-time woman feel bad.

Youtube Video

95 Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2014 8:04:44pm

96 The War TARDIS  Oct 7, 2014 8:06:29pm

Hey look, another NFL Problem.

It connects to Police Corruption.

Youtube Video

97 jaunte  Oct 7, 2014 8:08:35pm

Must be a blood moon eclipse night.

98 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:10:18pm

re: #97 jaunte

Speaking of that…So I have this nice lens and a dilemma-Get this shot or be worth my weight at work tomorrow?

Lunar eclipse tonight! How to see it, what it is

The full eclipse, when the Earth’s shadow is completely covering the moon, will start at 3:25 a.m. and will continue until 4:24 a.m.

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 7, 2014 8:12:03pm

re: #98 Rightwingconspirator

Speaking of that…So I have this nice lens and a dilemma-Get this shot of be worth my weight at work tomorrow?

Hope you get it. Too overcast here so I probably won’t be able to see it when I sneak outside later tonight.

100 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 8:15:07pm

re: #75 Kragar

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“NOTICE ME!”

Oh man. That’s just wrong.

101 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 8:15:13pm

So the question is, is Upchuck drunk tweeting? I know we discussed the autism/aspergers angle before, but maybe this is some kind of alcohol rage he’s displaying?

102 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:15:44pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Dunno gonna be running some major power tools full of valuable materials tomorrow. It’s the kinda thing that will have thousands of shots tomorrow to look at. Need a set up with a worthy silhouette or foreground to be worth getting up at that hour and then going in to work before sunrise.

103 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 8:16:28pm

re: #82 ipsos

And the boombox is playing Limbaugh, right?

And he’s dreaming of grandma.

104 The War TARDIS  Oct 7, 2014 8:17:32pm

And another:

Youtube Video

105 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:17:39pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Hope you get it. Too overcast here so I probably won’t be able to see it when I sneak outside later tonight.

Oh course there will be that blood moon apocalypse to shoot all day… No need to get up early for that.
///

106 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 8:18:19pm
107 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 7, 2014 8:18:51pm

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

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Didn’t feel it.

Night all.

108 The War TARDIS  Oct 7, 2014 8:20:22pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

Not going to be pleasant for Mexico.

109 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 8:20:30pm

re: #98 Rightwingconspirator

Speaking of that…So I have this nice lens and a dilemma-Get this shot or be worth my weight at work tomorrow?

What time zone? Eastern time they said 5:30-6:30 am.

110 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:20:35pm

*facepalm*

111 klys  Oct 7, 2014 8:21:41pm

re: #108 The War TARDIS

Not going to be pleasant for Mexico.

Actually probably won’t be much of a problem for them, really.

It really is in the middle of the Gulf of CA. Not much land close by.

112 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:22:14pm

re: #109 WhatEVs

Pacific. So we get the hour of the wolf.

113 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 8:22:45pm

re: #110 Rightwingconspirator

*facepalm*

Welcome to the United Corporations of America.

114 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 7, 2014 8:23:05pm

re: #110 Rightwingconspirator

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*facepalm*

Worst socialist president ever.

RBS

115 WhatEVs  Oct 7, 2014 8:23:26pm

re: #112 Rightwingconspirator

Pacific. So we get the hour of the wolf.

Just checking. I set my alarm clock.

116 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 8:24:14pm

re: #114 RealityBasedSteve

Worst socialist president ever.

RBS

Seriously!

117 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 8:25:10pm
118 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2014 8:28:10pm

re: #113 WhatEVs

Welcome to the United Corporations of America.

So glad we dropped BofA at work for all credit card transactions. Getting Square has been a boon for us and the customers.

119 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 8:30:25pm

re: #118 Rightwingconspirator

So glad we dropped BofA at work for all credit card transactions. Getting Square has been a boon for us and the customers.

The real advantage of Square will hopefully be lowering the rent seeking in the middle of CC transactions.

120 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2014 8:32:01pm

re: #77 NJDhockeyfan

A cop was shot in Chicago tonight.

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See the response when it’s one of their own… But over the weekend with 4 killed and 30+ shot… It’s like they can’t be bothered.

121 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 8:37:35pm
122 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2014 9:00:11pm
123 Floral Giraffe  Oct 7, 2014 9:01:31pm

OK, has this joker ever been outside of Arkansas?
Besides DC?

124 freetoken  Oct 7, 2014 9:11:52pm

Not surprising but still sad:

Students’ Religiosity More Influential Than Education in Views on Evolution

College students’ views on evolution are shaped significantly more by religiosity than education, according to a survey of Southern students.

The study, said to be the first in-depth analysis on the acceptance of evolution in this region, has been accepted for publication in the journal Evolution: Education and Outreach.

[The survey] used data gathered from questionnaires answered by approximately 3,000 UA students.

“Religion is much more important than all the other measured educational variables, combined, in influencing their views on evolution,” said [author] Rissler.

Most previous studies on evolution views were done in the Midwest and Northeast, Rissler said, and hearing many of her students say the topic was avoided in their high-school science classes helped prompt the study, she said.

“I’ve had many, many students who have said, ‘We didn’t talk about it at all. My teacher literally said, I’m taking this section, and we’re moving on because I’m not dealing with it.’”

The study also looked at whether students’ acceptance of evolution increased following exposure to the topic in college classrooms.

“The only group of students who improved in their acceptance of evolution was the group of students who were the least religious,” Rissler said.

The degree of religiosity among surveyed students was based on self-reported frequency of church attendance. […]

Other survey results included: science majors were more accepting of evolution than non-science majors; students who were taught evolution or neither evolution nor creationism in high school had significantly higher acceptance rates of evolution than those taught both evolution and creationism or just creationism; and many religious students appeared to reject evolution because of their faith even though they understand that the scientific community accepts evolutionary theory as valid.

This is America, 2014.

125 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 9:15:35pm

The skiing community has had a week from hell. The best and brightest among us keep on dying young.

It’s the advent of the backcountry era, where any motivated gomer can get good, reliable gear that’ll get them to a place where there are no chiarlifts and the snow is stoopid deep.

In the last decade I’ve slowly come to accept that the best skiers and snowboarders out there are going to be picked off by the mountains one by one as the years go on, I’ve accepted that as a fact of life. And that’s horribly tragic.

126 Swift2991  Oct 7, 2014 9:39:00pm

re: #4 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Not only that, but what do they have to give each other in a hypothetical deal? Good Lebanese hash? The cartels don’t care. Could ISIS make some money as their soldiers?

The whole thing makes no sense. In fact, the only thing less probable would be that we’ll have to invade Iraq because Mushroom Cloud and Al Qaeda!

127 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 9:40:10pm

Heckuva storm headed my way. Lots of lightening and thunder outside.

128 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 7, 2014 9:43:39pm

yep…. it passed just to the East of me, I’m just as glad it did. Batten down the hatches.

RBS

129 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 9:45:40pm

re: #128 RealityBasedSteve

yep…. it passed just to the East of me, I’m just as glad it did. Batten down the hatches.

RBS

I’m watching channel 5. They are saying ping pong size hail is possible.

130 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 9:51:29pm

I think the storm has arrived. It’s getting really windy now and the thunder is incredible.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 7, 2014 10:00:14pm

That was quick. Just like that the storm has passed.

132 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 10:06:22pm

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

I’m watching channel 5. They are saying ping pong size hail is possible.

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Ha ha! We in Texas laugh at your girly-man hail! You are panicking about 1” hailstones? Try hail as big as the softball, that breaks the windshield and makes it that your roof needs to be replaced!

You need to be big men, like Hans and Franz! Buck up, little soldiers!

Oh, and good night, all. Sweet scaly dreams. I hope Chucky (The Twink) Johnson gets a domicile that is not in his mom’s basement. Being an award-winning journalist and all.

Just sayin’.

133 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 10:14:32pm

re: #132 austin_blue

Ha ha! We in Texas laugh at your girly-man hail! You are panicking about 1” hailstones? Try hail as big as the softball, that breaks the windshield and makes it that your roof needs to be replaced!

You need to be big men, like Hans and Franz! Buck up, little soldiers!

That sounds horrifying! Glad I live in a place where the moisture falls in a fine white mist. That can get pretty ridiculous too.

134 austin_blue  Oct 7, 2014 10:19:30pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

That sounds horrifying! Glad I live in a place where the moisture falls in a fine white mist. That can get pretty ridiculous too.

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When I was flying for the USAF, I lived in Marquette, Michigan. The Great Lakes snow belt. We averaged 144” of snow a year. Have mercy. But, you know, I prefer it to the squall lines we get in Texas. The violence of the thunderstorms here is epic.

And really, adios, my dear friends.

135 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 7, 2014 10:30:37pm

re: #132 austin_blue

Ha ha! We in Texas laugh at your girly-man hail! You are panicking about 1” hailstones? Try hail as big as the softball, that breaks the windshield and makes it that your roof needs to be replaced!

You need to be big men, like Hans and Franz! Buck up, little soldiers!

Oh, and good night, all. Sweet scaly dreams. I hope Chucky (The Twink) Johnson gets a domicile that is not in his mom’s basement. Being an award-winning journalist and all.

Just sayin’.

Oh, get the fuck out! I’ve seen Texans drive in ice and snow. It’s a horror show!

136 3eff Jeff  Oct 7, 2014 11:16:00pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

It’s a dangerous sport, and a very special high. I know this won’t stop me from going and pushing myself. I also know that if I meet a similar fate, I’d want everyone to know I went out doing something I loved, and that I knew the score.

Would you tell any of them, “no, don’t go”?

137 teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2014 11:40:34pm

re: #136 3eff Jeff

It’s a dangerous sport, and a very special high. I know this won’t stop me from going and pushing myself. I also know that if I meet a similar fate, I’d want everyone to know I went out doing something I loved, and that I knew the score.

Would you tell any of them, “no, don’t go”?

That’s the main debate being had in backcountry skiing circles. Like the song from The Clash, “Should I Stay Or Should I Go?”

On 20 April 2013 six guys trekked out from U.S. Highway 6 on Loveland Pass in Colorado to go ride some sickness. Only one of them came back, and three of the deceased were right below him - his buddy’s face was right next to his knee.

All those guys were experienced, well-equipped, knowledgeable. They were all together for a fundraiser for the Colorado Avalanche Information Center and to promote backcountry skiing.

The more I think about it, the more I can ascertain that a domino effect of bad decisions took place that horrible day in a short amount of time - no one said “No” - and BAM you get the worst avalanche accident in Colorado in decades.

The skiing community has to grapple with the risk vs. reward thing when it comes to the backcountry. And that’s a hard thing to do; the best and brightest skiers and snowboarders can do nothing but push the farthest and do the craziest shit. And every year a handful of them die with their boots on.

138 KiTA  Oct 8, 2014 1:25:49am

Wow. The Green Party doesn’t have much of a presence in Idaho. Heh.

139 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 1:58:35am
140 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 2:02:30am

After the above mp3, this latest Duggar video will make more sense, shortly after they had returned from that shindig in DC:

Youtube Video

141 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 2:07:20am
I remember when I was at the very beginning of my wedding plans and someone had come in and didn’t talk to me, but talked to my parents,” Anna said, explaining her parents went on to make a big decision about the wedding without asking her. “I remember, like, being a little upset and thinking, ‘That’s not fair. I’m supposed to be able to make those decisions.’ And then God convicted me that pride is reserving for myself the right to make the final decision.

There’s some serious mind control going on there.

Oh, and the sister Jessa…:

Following up her controversial post from the Holocaust museum and her visit to The Creation Museum, Jessa shared links to an Answers in Genesis article that argues the earth is “about 6,000 years old.”

The article goes to great lengths to explain radiometric dating, why it isn’t reliable and how new studies from the RATE Group (a subsidiary of the Institute for Creation Research) point to a “young earth.” The author concludes, “The best way to learn about history and the age of the earth is to consult the history book of the universe — the Bible.

Serious, serious mind control.

142 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 2:17:04am

re: #124 freetoken

Not surprising but still sad:

Students’ Religiosity More Influential Than Education in Views on Evolution

This is America, 2014.

Roll Tide.

143 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 2:23:00am

re: #137 teleskiguy

That’s the main debate being had in backcountry skiing circles. Like the song from The Clash, “Should I Stay Or Should I Go?”

On 20 April 2013 six guys trekked out from U.S. Highway 6 on Loveland Pass in Colorado to go ride some sickness. Only one of them came back, and three of the deceased were right below him - his buddy’s face was right next to his knee.

All those guys were experienced, well-equipped, knowledgeable. They were all together for a fundraiser for the Colorado Avalanche Information Center and to promote backcountry skiing.

The more I think about it, the more I can ascertain that a domino effect of bad decisions took place that horrible day in a short amount of time - no one said “No” - and BAM you get the worst avalanche accident in Colorado in decades.

The skiing community has to grapple with the risk vs. reward thing when it comes to the backcountry. And that’s a hard thing to do; the best and brightest skiers and snowboarders can do nothing but push the farthest and do the craziest shit. And every year a handful of them die with their boots on.

We don’t have that problem in Alabama. Our kids just get drunk and hit a bridge abutment and go home to see the lord.

144 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 2:45:31am

Went out to check the eclipse (will set in totality from here). Can barely make out the streetlight through the fog. Daughter1 is setting up a Skype from her clear high spot in northern AL.

145 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 8, 2014 2:47:38am

Too overcast here, alas…

146 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 2:48:36am

re: #145 William Barnett-Lewis

Too overcast here, alas…

You should bang on gongs and set off fireworks just in case.

147 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 2:53:54am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

You should bang on gongs and set off fireworks just in case.

And/or prepare for the End Times, as Jody Hice recommends. littlegreenfootballs.com

148 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 2:59:30am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi

And/or prepare for the End Times, as Jody Hice recommends. littlegreenfootballs.com

Jesus. I mean Jay-zuz. Can I get an ‘Amen’?

149 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:00:59am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Jesus. I mean Jay-zuz. Can I get an ‘Amen’?

A—men! It’s true!!

{Fall to floor, twitching uncontrollably}

150 ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2014 3:05:44am

Good lunar eclipse morning!

About 3/4 or more at this moment in Ohio. Hoping to take a photo or two, but the freakin’ battery in my camera is about out of charge.

151 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:07:01am

Here’s something right up End Timers’ alley, the earthquake in China a few days ago. I think someone here commented on it.

It was in Yunnan, the province that borders Vietnam and Myanmar. One person dead, 324 injured, according to this report.
shanghaiist.com

For the record, I live two provinces away in Hunan, which rarely gets earthquakes.

152 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:07:32am

re: #150 ObserverArt

Good lunar eclipse morning!

About 3/4 or more at this moment in Ohio. Hoping to take a photo or two, but the freakin’ battery in my camera is about out of charge.

I always have a spare all charged up.

153 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 3:08:07am

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi

A—men! It’s true!!

{Fall to floor, twitching uncontrollably}

Almost no moon magic at all in RC Christianity—it would be looked askance as a pagan hangover.*

*Offer not valid in Sicily, Haiti, Louisiana, and other fringe provinces, representations of the Immaculate Conception not included.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

154 ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2014 3:09:26am

re: #152 wheat-dogghazi

I always have a spare all charged up.

Yeah…I need to do the same. Dammit.

155 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:10:13am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

Almost no moon magic at all in RC Christianity—it would be looked askance as a pagan hangover.*

Is a pagan hangover what you get after drinking too much mead?

156 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 3:13:20am

re: #155 wheat-dogghazi

Is a pagan hangover what you get after drinking too much mead?

Hanging at Forbes Field bars with old-school Pirates.

Image: Scan_Pic0038.jpg

157 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 3:29:42am

Daughter1 has taken her iPad outside. Yup—it’s all dark.

158 sattv4u2  Oct 8, 2014 3:31:35am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 has taken her iPad outside. Yup—it’s all dark.

the daughter, the IPad or outside!?!?!?

159 Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2014 3:31:36am

REp. Cotton? You can have your hair cut and styled. You can wear the fancy suit. But you’ll never be able to hide the fact that you’re a hayseed.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 8, 2014 3:35:54am

re: #145 William Barnett-Lewis

Too overcast here, alas…

Actually it just cleared up enough to see it. Just shy of totatality.

161 ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2014 3:36:10am

Blood Moon Eclipse - October 8, 2014

I don’t have a long lens…so this is the best I could get hustling to shoot the photo on a less than charged battery.

162 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 3:36:38am

re: #158 sattv4u2

the daughter, the IPad or outside!?!?!?

Emo eclipse astronomy—all dark.

163 Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2014 3:37:32am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

That’s your standard for success, Chuck C?

164 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:38:36am

re: #161 ObserverArt

The moon is dissolving!! Ai yee!!

165 sattv4u2  Oct 8, 2014 3:39:08am

re: #161 ObserverArt

I don’t have a long lens

worse
pick-up line
EVAH

166 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 3:54:06am

I just watched the first ep of The Flash. Really good!

167 sattv4u2  Oct 8, 2014 3:58:37am

re: #166 wheat-dogghazi

I just watched the first ep of The Flash. Really good!

2nd
worse
pick-up line
EVAH

168 Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2014 4:00:01am

re: #166 wheat-dogghazi

Caught it myself recently. It sure has promise.

But I stopped watching Arrow before the end of the first season even though it had John Barrowman as the villain.

169 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 4:11:25am

And there’s at least one judge in Alabama with a sense of irony:

The seven Alabamians arrested for singing and praying in the State Capitol as an act of faith in support of health care and Medicaid expansion were found not guilty following their trial in Montgomery County District Court today. The purpose of their moral stand remains to persuade Gov. Robert Bentley to extend Medicaid coverage and save the lives of Alabamians.

In his oral ruling from the bench, Judge W. Troy Massey said that this case follows in the long history and tradition of Americans risking jail to stand up for principles greater than themselves. He cited Americans in 1773, who trespassed onto three ships and destroyed $1 million worth of tea (in 1773 dollars) by dumping it into the Boston Harbor. Today we know that as the Boston Tea Party. He cited Rosa Parks, who refused to give up her seat on a Montgomery bus in 1955 in protest of segregation, which led to the Montgomery Bus Boycott and advances in desegregation of public transportation. He cited protests in Selma in 1965, which led to the Voting Rights Act. He cited Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s lifetime of nonviolent protests and others. …snip

170 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 4:17:28am

re: #168 Romantic Heretic

Caught it myself recently. It sure has promise.

But I stopped watching Arrow before the end of the first season even though it had John Barrowman as the villain.

I stuck with Arrow through the second season. It’s gotten more soap-opera-ish with all the melodrama in the Queen family, and it seems so many people know who Arrow really is that Oliver might just as well do a Tony Stark and “come out,” so to speak.

I’ll give season 3 a chance, too.

171 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 4:40:16am

Some of the fence-sitters in my circle of acquaintances are trying to float the “civil unions” idea again in wake of SCOTUS’ decision not to decide, with the usual blather about “getting the government out of the marriage business.”

172 Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2014 4:42:52am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Some of the fence-sitters in my circle of acquaintances are trying to float the “civil unions” idea again in wake of SCOTUS’ decision not to decide, with the usual blather about “getting the government out of the marriage business.”

We need to simplify our legal system according to the RWNJs but hospitals and probate courts should have deal with a different power-of-attorney and estate setups for every single married person?

173 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 4:45:53am

re: #172 Timothy Watson

We need to simplify our legal system according to the RWNJs but hospitals and probate courts should have deal with a different power-of-attorney and estate setups for every single married person?

What it really is is a way for the religious crowd to claim a win. It’s inevitable that same-sex marriage will become the law of the land in the next 5 years, so they’re trying to decouple marriage from the law so they can say “The government can’t tell me who to marry!”

174 Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2014 4:49:02am

re: #173 Targetpractice

What it really is is a way for the religious crowd to claim a win. It’s inevitable that same-sex marriage will become the law of the land in the next 5 years, so they’re trying to decouple marriage from the law so they can say “The government can’t tell me who to marry!”

Speaking of, Delegate Bob Marshall (RWNJ) of Virginia has asked the Attorney General’s Office for an opinion on whether bigamy is now legal in Virginia.

175 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 4:51:34am

re: #174 Timothy Watson

Speaking of, Delegate Bob Marshall (RWNJ) of Virginia has asked the Attorney General’s Office for an opinion on whether bigamy is now legal in Virginia.

The reply should be “No Bob, you can’t marry your mistress just yet.”

176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 4:52:11am

re: #173 Targetpractice

What it really is is a way for the religious crowd to claim a win. It’s inevitable that same-sex marriage will become the law of the land in the next 5 years, so they’re trying to decouple marriage from the law so they can say “The government can’t tell me who to marry!”

I don’t care what they call it as long as people enjoy the same rights regardless of sexual orientation.

177 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 5:00:15am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t care what they call it as long as people enjoy the same rights regardless of sexual orientation.

I would assume calling it “marriage” means all laws and regulations pertaining to marriage will be in effect. Calling it “civil union” narrows the legal effects to legislation and regulations that mention that term specifically.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 5:06:30am

re: #177 wheat-dogghazi

I would assume calling it “marriage” means all laws and regulations pertaining to marriage will be in effect. Calling it “civil union” narrows the legal effects to legislation and regulations that mention that term specifically.

They could just call it “legalized sodomy” and refer to heterosexual marriage as “legalized serial rape”…

/

180 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 8, 2014 5:26:28am

A heavy overcast made the “blood moon” eclipse a complete bust in this part of the world. I did spot a coyote across the road from me though. I caught it in the beam of my flashlight, but It just sat there and looked at me instead of running away.
I guess I’ll settle back now and wait for all the fundamentalists to be raptured away. I can’t even put dibs on their cars, though, since no fundy I know has a car I would want. Rush Limbaugh’s Maybach would be worthwhile but there is no way I could get to Florida before the local infidels and scoffers get to it.

181 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 5:32:44am
182 Belafon  Oct 8, 2014 5:36:07am

re: #173 Targetpractice

When straight white Christian males are no longer the sole beneficiaries, rather than giving it to everyone, no one should get it. It’s rather disturbing the way they think.

183 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:36:30am

from my fb -DV Shelter

-In FY 2013,in Illinois, there were 59 domestic violence homicides of adults, 37 females and 22 males. There were also 9 of domestic homicides of children, that were under the age of 18.

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 8, 2014 5:36:53am

Question for you:
Who is being “insulted” in this election cartoon? The Democrats or the GOP?

185 Belafon  Oct 8, 2014 5:37:32am

re: #181 NJDhockeyfan

I read something the other day where someone complained about Obama not attempting to rally Americans to fight ISIS. Am I the only one that remembers that he went on TV specifically for that reason?

186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 5:38:22am

re: #184 Pie-onist Overlord

Question for you:
Who is being “insulted” in this election cartoon? The Democrats or the GOP?

Both sides, equally. And it sums up the electoral dynamic: the GOP base makes gains in the mid-terms, sees that as a mandate to be “more conservative” in the general election and loses humiliatingly.

187 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 5:39:03am

re: #185 Belafon

I read something the other day where someone complained about Obama not attempting to rally Americans to fight ISIS. Am I the only one that remembers that he went on TV specifically for that reason? living and breathing.

188 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 5:41:38am

re: #181 NJDhockeyfan

I like Jimmy Carter, but in this situation he should just STFU. He’s the last person to be saying another president “waited too long” to take action against terrorists.

189 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:41:48am

190 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:42:22am

191 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 5:43:03am

re: #181 NJDhockeyfan

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Translation: “SOMEBODY PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!”

192 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:43:40am
193 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 5:43:53am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Both sides, equally. And it sums up the electoral dynamic: the GOP base makes gains in the mid-terms, sees that as a mandate to be “more conservative” in the general election and loses humiliatingly.

Yup. It exemplifies the dichotomy between the left and the right when it comes to midterms elections: the left is typically apathetic while the right is typically fanatical. The Dems should never (or hardly never) lose midterms if they had consistently successful GOTV campaigns.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 5:44:38am

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

No woman can call herself anything but a SLUT if she does not learn to control her body and not walk around like she is ASKING to be raped.

195 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 5:44:56am
196 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 5:48:32am
197 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 5:52:34am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Some of the fence-sitters in my circle of acquaintances are trying to float the “civil unions” idea again in wake of SCOTUS’ decision not to decide, with the usual blather about “getting the government out of the marriage business.”

The next time they bring that up, tell them to give up all the tax breaks they get for being married. You know, since the government shouldn’t be in the marriage business.

198 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 5:55:56am

This blood moon stuff is nonsense. I woke up feeling totally normal this morning.

199 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:56:47am
200 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 5:58:07am
201 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:04:10am

Platypode

202 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 6:04:57am

re: #161 ObserverArt

Blood Moon Eclipse - October 8, 2014

I don’t have a long lens…so this is the best I could get hustling to shoot the photo on a less than charged battery.

That’s no moon. That’s a …. space…station. /

203 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:05:58am

Vocabulary Word of the Day:

lubricious

PRONUNCIATION:
(loo-BRISH-uhs)

MEANING:
adjective:
1. Lecherous.
2. Salacious.
3. Shifty or tricky.
4. Smooth and slippery.

ETYMOLOGY:
From Latin lubricus (slippery, smooth). Ultimately from the Indo-European root sleubh- (to slide or slip), which also gave us slip, slop, sloop, sleeve, and lubricate. Earliest documented use: 1584.

USAGE:
“The lubricious, often drooling Claudius himself, I reflect, would have been into full-body massage.”
Clive Irving; Ye Olde Dolce Vita; Condé Nast’s Traveler (New York); Apr 2011.

204 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 6:06:25am
205 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 6:07:14am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

I’m guessing none of those pooches are using the lawn to relieve themselves….. ;)

206 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 6:07:23am

Sitting stuck in traffic on the RTA. Lots of emergency vehicles. At least there is TV and Wi-Fi on the bus. At least I’m having a better day than somebody

207 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:07:37am

I look on the floor next to my chair last night and saw the strangest thing.

15 year old cat without front claws standing on Feral Girl.

Actually he was kneading and purring loudly.

Feral Girl just lay there with her eyes closed.

208 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:08:13am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

I’m guessing none of those pooches are using the lawn to relieve themselves….. ;)

jealous?

209 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 6:10:23am

Sitting here listening to a company-wide webinar meeting. I can feel my eyes glazing over already.

210 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 6:10:43am

re: #198 De Kolta Chair

This blood moon stuff is nonsense. I woke up feeling totally normal this morning.

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As for me, I was going to bite her neck … but I got distracted.

212 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 6:14:50am

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

jealous?

Ha! Touche’

213 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 6:16:36am
214 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 6:17:11am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi

Oh you dawg you!

215 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:17:21am
216 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 6:18:57am

Donald Trump rails against President Obama for pretty much every global issue from ISIL to the US response to Ebola while the casinos with his name on the masthead are all going under.

Someone apparently can’t be bothered to focus on his own business. He’d rather let others suffer the consequences for his business “prowess”.

217 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 6:19:33am

Did Coulter take over Da Douche D’Souza’s twitter and facebook accounts over the last few days? The convict’s account have been increasingly unhinged.

218 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:19:37am

Trump Desperately Seeking Relevance

219 FemNaziBitch  Oct 8, 2014 6:19:45am

bbl

220 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 6:22:05am
221 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 6:22:12am

re: #216 lawhawk

222 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 6:22:39am

Posted without comment:

223 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 6:25:00am

So, this is what will be keeping NWS busy this morning:

224 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 6:25:08am

re: #222 Targetpractice

If only there had been a good guy with a gun!

*ahem*

225 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 6:26:45am

re: #222 Targetpractice

Posted without comment:

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snicker

226 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 6:26:53am

My surprise, etc. —

227 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 6:31:15am

re: #216 lawhawk

Donald Trump rails against President Obama for pretty much every global issue from ISIL to the US response to Ebola while the casinos with his name on the masthead are all going under.

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Someone apparently can’t be bothered to focus on his own business. He’d rather let others suffer the consequences for his business “prowess”.

To be fair he doesn’t have any financial interest in those casinos, he sold his stakes in them years ago. They were just still using his name under the terms of his sale of shares.

228 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 6:31:59am

re: #222 Targetpractice

Posted without comment:

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The only solution to a good guy with a gun is a bad guy with two guns.

229 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 8, 2014 6:33:37am

Guess which tune is going around and around in my head!

Srsly, it’s Stowkowski’s orchestral arrangement of “Christ Lag In Todesbanden”

Hey, it’s better than Ob-La-Di!

230 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 8, 2014 6:35:05am

ASSHOLE==>

231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 6:36:35am

re: #230 Pie-onist Overlord

ASSHOLE==>

Marriage laws should reflect the values and mores of the citizens of each state. Not unelected judges:

They should reflect the CONSTITUTION!!!

232 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 6:40:07am

re: #230 Pie-onist Overlord

ASSHOLE==>

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So interracial marriage still being against the law a lot of southern states would be just fine with Ted?

233 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2014 6:45:58am

re: #222 Targetpractice

Well to hear some that was a really unexpected outcome. A guy with a gun sensibly complied and de escalated an armed robbery. Kinda ironic, a guy buys a sporting gun, all according to the law, gives it up rather than cowboy the situation and some are enjoying his misfortune.

Huh.

234 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 6:48:21am

re: #233 Rightwingconspirator

Well to hear some that was a really unexpected outcome. A guy with a gun sensibly complied and de escalated an armed robbery. Kinda ironic, a guy buys a sporting gun, all according to the law, gives it up rather than cowboy the situation and some are enjoying his misfortune.

Huh.

Some are enjoying reality intruding on fantasy, where a gun is not a magic talisman that keeps bad guys away and even an armed man can be robbed.

235 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 6:48:37am

re: #233 Rightwingconspirator

Well to hear some that was a really unexpected outcome. A guy with a gun sensibly complied and de escalated an armed robbery. Kinda ironic, a guy buys a sporting gun, all according to the law, gives it up rather than cowboy the situation and some are enjoying his misfortune.

Huh.

Open carry=surrendering the tactical advantage. It will go this way far more often than not.

236 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 6:53:17am

re: #229 Pie-onist Overlord

Guess which tune is going around and around in my head!

Srsly, it’s Stowkowski’s orchestral arrangement of “Christ Lag In Todesbanden”

Hey, it’s better than Ob-La-Di!

If there was only one composer I was allowed to listen to then I would have to pick Bach. Stowkowski’s orchestral arrangement of “Christ Lag In Todesbanden”:

Youtube Video

237 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 6:53:50am
238 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 6:54:26am

re: #227 ausador

That’s not entirely accurate. He still has a 10% stake in the companies operating the casinos, which was his payment for the licensing to use his name.

239 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 6:54:47am
Groups like the Islamic State collaborate with drug cartels in Mexico who have clearly shown they’re willing to expand outside the drug trade into human trafficking and potentially even terrorism.

Confirmed. FACT!!

240 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 6:55:08am

Boom:

241 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 6:56:04am

re: #240 lawhawk

Boom:

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It’s going to happen, one way or another. SCOTUS kicked the can down the road, but it can’t avoid the matter forever.

242 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 6:56:20am
243 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 6:58:31am

re: #240 lawhawk

Awesome.

I’m sure the bigots will be crying about it in short order.

244 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 6:59:13am

re:
#240

BREAKING: Gay marriages start in South Carolina; court in Charleston issues license despite state ban.

Wingnuts’ heads exploding….

245 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 7:00:04am

re: #241 Targetpractice

It’s going to happen, one way or another. SCOTUS kicked the can down the road, but it can’t avoid the matter forever.

Actually it can. As long as the Circuit Courts keep striking down ssm bans themselves, there is no reason for the Court to hear a case. And even if a Circuit doesn’t take the hint the Court dropped Monday and affirms a ssm ban, the Court, in its infinite wisdom, could choose not to hear that appeal and allow a region of the country to continue to ban ssm, though I don’t think they would.

246 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 7:02:10am

re: #238 lawhawk

That’s not entirely accurate. He still has a 10% stake in the companies operating the casinos, which was his payment for the licensing to use his name.

But no control over the business, as shown by his resorting to a suit to remove his name from a failing business.

247 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:04:03am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Some of the fence-sitters in my circle of acquaintances are trying to float the “civil unions” idea again in wake of SCOTUS’ decision not to decide, with the usual blather about “getting the government out of the marriage business.”

Pebbles trying to vote after the avalanche has started.

If that was going to be pushed as a viable option that had to be started up seriously years ago. And even then it would have opposed as setting up a group as second-class citizens since “regular marriage” and “civil unions” would have different definitions. Unless the states at that time also changed their statutes so that all they did was “civil unions” and stopped using marriage as a legal term.

248 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:05:42am

re: #185 Belafon

I read something the other day where someone complained about Obama not attempting to rally Americans to fight ISIS. Am I the only one that remembers that he went on TV specifically for that reason?

They’re upset he didn’t equate all of Islam to ISIS like they want him to.
//

249 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 7:06:08am

re: #241 Targetpractice

They have to get a split of authority among the circuits, and so far all the circuits are finding the SSM bans (whether by statute or constitutional amendment to the state constitution) unconstitutional on equal protection grounds.

The 5th, 6th, 8th, and 11th still have to weigh in, but the majority of circuits (7 in total - 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, and 10) either have ruled against SSM or the states have already legalized there.

The longer this goes, the less likely it becomes that the SSM opponents will prevail at the circuit level because the weight of authority from other circuits becomes overwhelming and persuasive. Windsor has a huge reason to do with that - particularly the Scalia dissent which noted this very outcome (mostly spoiled grapes, but notes too that the majority laid the groundwork for this outcome because the Equal Protection grounds are afforded to gays seeking the benefits of marriage).

250 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 7:06:40am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

That was my thinking as well. Proposing “civil unions” as a substitute for “marriage” opens up another can of worms, and it will still run afoul of equal protection. The RW is just going to have to take on the chin and accept marriage cannot exclude same-sex unions.

251 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 7:08:09am

Was he ahead of his time?

252 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 7:08:34am

I wonder if nutters like Cotton-Eyed Joe here would be spouting this crap if Mexico was a Protestant country.

253 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 7:12:22am

re: #241 Targetpractice

It’s going to happen, one way or another. SCOTUS kicked the can down the road, but it can’t avoid the matter forever.

The Supreme Court simply handed it back to the state courts parsing the individual state constitutions and the Federal appeals courts parsing contested state laws in light of the fourteenth amendment.

I’m glad they did, it may be slower this way but it doesn’t give the other side as much room to incite hatred of the government because of “judicial activism” and the courts “ruling by fiat.”

254 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 7:15:19am

re:
#185

I read something the other day where someone complained about Obama not attempting to rally Americans to fight ISIS. Am I the only one that remembers that he went on TV specifically for that reason?

Why is Obummer always on TV?? TELEPRomptER!!!1

255 Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2014 7:16:12am

re: #240 lawhawk

Boom:

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Waiting for Idaho to issue it’s first license. The AG is dragging his feet over ordering County Clerks to issue them.

“Tuesday evening, Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden said he still was reviewing the decisions and orders.

“It’s still too early to know fully what the decision and orders mean for Idaho and how the state will proceed,” he said.”

Even though the 9th has issued an order that their decision is effective immediately this idiot still thinks he has wiggle room to delay/prevent the issuing of licenses.

256 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 7:16:31am

re: #249 lawhawk

They have to get a split of authority among the circuits, and so far all the circuits are finding the SSM bans (whether by statute or constitutional amendment to the state constitution) unconstitutional on equal protection grounds.

The 5th, 6th, 8th, and 11th still have to weigh in, but the majority of circuits (7 in total - 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, and 10) either have ruled against SSM or the states have already legalized there.

The longer this goes, the less likely it becomes that the SSM opponents will prevail at the circuit level because the weight of authority from other circuits becomes overwhelming and persuasive. Windsor has a huge reason to do with that - particularly the Scalia dissent which noted this very outcome (mostly spoiled grapes, but notes too that the majority laid the groundwork for this outcome because the Equal Protection grounds are afforded to gays seeking the benefits of marriage).

The next best chance for a circuit split is the 6th Circuit, since during oral arguments it appeared that two of the judges favored affirming the bans. Judge Sutton may rethink his position that it is in the best interest of homosexuals to win their neighbors’ hearts and minds through the democratic process rather than securing their rights through the courts in light of the Courts rejection of the other appeals this week. Even if he doesn’t, the full 6th Circuit may strike ssm bans en banc. I assume that establishment Republicans would prefer that ssm bans be eliminated in dribs and drabs by the Circuits, instead of by a sweeping Supreme Court opinion next year which would force GOP presidential nominees to take a position on the issue.

257 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 7:17:48am

re: #250 wheat-dogghazi

That was my thinking as well. Proposing “civil unions” as a substitute for “marriage” opens up another can of worms, and it will still run afoul of equal protection. The RW is just going to have to take on the chin and accept marriage cannot exclude same-sex unions.

I think they are already shifting to battle for “religious liberty.” The right to discriminate against homosexuals on religious grounds.

258 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:18:55am

Another quote from the Nicoll Events file I started reading yesterday.

OK, now they are just playing with my mind

So I am trying to get to sleep. Cleo jumps onto the bed to try
to sleep on the upper left of the bed (Tapistry always makes him move
to the upper right), catches sight of something out the window and
begins to stare intently at _something_.

I take a look but it’s dark and anyway, the only thing out the
window is a view of the roof of the strip mall on the other side of the
block. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing there.

He keeps on staring. As time goes by, all of the cats (except
Nameless) gather to look in horror at something that they can see out
there and I cannot.

A lot of it is cat stories. Mixed in with stories about James Nicoll’s long history of non-fatal injuries and mishaps. Nicoll Events

259 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 7:19:27am

re:
#255

Waiting for Idaho to issue it’s first license. The AG is dragging his feet over ordering County Clerks to issue them.

All is well. There are no gays in Idaho. Our gays are happy without all this marriage stuff. President Romney will overturn the Court’s (non)-ruling. We’re relocating to another judicial district.

260 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 7:19:36am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

Pebbles trying to vote after the avalanche has started.

If that was going to be pushed as a viable option that had to be started up seriously years ago. And even then it would have opposed as setting up a group as second-class citizens since “regular marriage” and “civil unions” would have different definitions. Unless the states at that time also changed their statutes so that all they did was “civil unions” and stopped using marriage as a legal term.

A couple years ago Iceweasel posted a summary of all the laws that hang on the word ‘married’. It was in the hundreds at the Fed and state level, and the RL consequences were not subtle. It needs to be reposted periodically.

261 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 7:20:18am

re: #251 NJDhockeyfan

Was he ahead of his time?

Inventor Hugo Gernsback is Demonstrating His Television Goggles in 1963

Reminds me of this guy…

262 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 7:22:55am

re: #260 Decatur Deb

A couple years ago Iceweasel posted a summary of all the laws that hang on the word ‘married’. It was in the hundreds at the Fed and state level, and the RL consequences were not subtle. It needs to be reposted periodically.

I agree its too late now, though I read one Utah legislator filed a bill to name same-sex marriages “pairages.” If they were going to constitutionally created civil unions, they would need a definitions statute specifying that a “civil union” is a “marriage” so that people entering into civil unions would get all of the benefits of marriage.

263 Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2014 7:26:43am

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

SCOTUS issues stay, blocks Idaho gay marriage

The court issued a stay, effectively blocking same-sex marriage, which was set to go forward Wednesday morning. The order was issued by Justice Anthony Kennedy Wednesday morning in response to an emergency motion Idaho filed at around 5 a.m.

264 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 7:28:59am
265 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 7:29:33am

re:
#263

“Absent the stay requested by Governor Otter’s emergency motion, Idaho will experience the same chaos, confusion, conflict, and uncertainty seen in Utah and Virginia, which resulted when those district court decisions were not stayed pending appeal,” Perry warned in the filing.

The only chaos being the state’s unwillingness to follow the law.

266 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:29:50am

re: #262 aagcobb

I agree its too late now, though I read one Utah legislator filed a bill to name same-sex marriages “pairages.” If they were going to constitutionally created civil unions, they would need a definitions statute specifying that a “civil union” is a “marriage” so that people entering into civil unions would get all of the benefits of marriage.

So either a lot of additional legal work to clean up the language, or an attempt to make a distinction without a legal difference.

267 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:30:37am

re: #263 Bubblehead II

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

SCOTUS issues stay, blocks Idaho gay marriage

The court issued a stay, effectively blocking same-sex marriage, which was set to go forward Wednesday morning. The order was issued by Justice Anthony Kennedy Wednesday morning in response to an emergency motion Idaho filed at around 5 a.m.

SO they will issue the stay while refusing to hear the appeal?

268 Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2014 7:33:24am

re: #266 Feline Fearless Leader

So either a lot of additional legal work to clean up the language, or an attempt to make a distinction without a legal difference.

Because marriage is scattered through so much criminal, civil, and administrative law at so many levels of jurisdiction the task would be a monster, if doable at all.

269 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 7:34:41am

re: #263 Bubblehead II

The Idaho AG is claiming that there’s some kind of procedural matter that prevents the state from complying with the 9th Circuit’s ruling. That could actually be true with the need to update state regulations to comply - and that all localities follow the same procedures. The 9th could turn around and give the state a deadline to get those changes in place to comply with the ruling. Like say 30-90 days. Enough time for the state to update marriage forms and to make it clear that the state cannot ban gays from marrying.

270 Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2014 7:35:32am

re: #265 Bulworth

re:
#263

The only chaos being the state’s unwillingness to follow the law.

Yep. And sadly this asshole will be reelected again this year. :-(

271 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 7:38:17am

re:
#269

That could actually be true with the need to update state regulations to comply - and that all localities follow the same procedures.

Ah, OK. Thanks

272 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 7:39:28am

re: #263 Bubblehead II

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

SCOTUS issues stay, blocks Idaho gay marriage

The court issued a stay, effectively blocking same-sex marriage, which was set to go forward Wednesday morning. The order was issued by Justice Anthony Kennedy Wednesday morning in response to an emergency motion Idaho filed at around 5 a.m.

273 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 7:39:28am

re: #267 Feline Fearless Leader

SO they will issue the stay while refusing to hear the appeal?

Issued by Justice Kennedy, stay in effect pending Idaho appeal ruling by 9th circuit appeals court.

274 Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2014 7:40:29am

re: #269 lawhawk

The Idaho AG is claiming that there’s some kind of procedural matter that prevents the state from complying with the 9th Circuit’s ruling. That could actually be true with the need to update state regulations to comply - and that all localities follow the same procedures. The 9th could turn around and give the state a deadline to get those changes in place to comply with the ruling. Like say 30-90 days. Enough time for the state to update marriage forms and to make it clear that the state cannot ban gays from marrying.

It may b e this.

“Glasscock said the marriage licenses now say “bride” and “groom,” and only the Idaho Board of Health and Welfare can change the wording.

County clerks are forbidden from altering the licenses themselves, though a license filled out by a couple who marks or changes it would still be accepted for filing, she said.”

If so, it’s a mighty then excuse.

275 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 7:41:49am

READY! FIRE! AIM!

276 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 7:42:28am

re:
#275

Please proceed….

277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 7:42:52am

re: #275 Lidane

READY! FIRE! AIM!

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It is about time that the GOP splits into True Conservatives and Establishment RINOs…

278 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 7:45:03am

re: #263 Bubblehead II

DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

SCOTUS issues stay, blocks Idaho gay marriage

The court issued a stay, effectively blocking same-sex marriage, which was set to go forward Wednesday morning. The order was issued by Justice Anthony Kennedy Wednesday morning in response to an emergency motion Idaho filed at around 5 a.m.

An “emergency motion”……to prevent people from getting married. Conservatives are fucked up.

279 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 7:48:37am

re: #275 Lidane

READY! FIRE! AIM!

Disagreement over “true” Republican, or attempt to get a pundit tossed in order to free up dollars and media air time to be given to other pundits?

280 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 7:48:47am
281 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 7:50:10am
282 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 7:52:19am

re: #274 Bubblehead II

It may b e this.

“Glasscock said the marriage licenses now say “bride” and “groom,” and only the Idaho Board of Health and Welfare can change the wording.

County clerks are forbidden from altering the licenses themselves, though a license filled out by a couple who marks or changes it would still be accepted for filing, she said.”

If so, it’s a mighty then excuse.

Its only a temporary roadblock; same-sex couples will be able to marry in Idaho very soon. Though I imagine it was a crushing disappointment to the couples ready to take the plunge today.

283 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 7:53:45am

re: #282 aagcobb

Its only a temporary roadblock; same-sex couples will be able to marry in Idaho very soon. Though I imagine it was a crushing disappointment to the couples ready to take the plunge today.

curious, if they married in another state, would Idaho have to recognize that marriage?

RBS

284 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 7:54:05am

Worst Socialist President EVER.

Obamacare KILLS and destroys the health industry!!!

Not a good day for GOPers (again).

285 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 7:55:11am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

Pew Poll: Americans Aren’t Buying Fox News’ Ebola Scare Tactics

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I hate that MMFA is painting Ron Fornier as a non-partisan. The guy who McCain tried to tap to head his campaign. He is not a fire-breather, but he is definitely partisan.

286 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2014 7:55:19am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Some are enjoying reality intruding on fantasy, where a gun is not a magic talisman that keeps bad guys away and even an armed man can be robbed.

*Sigh* We all have to answer for the loud few. The Twitter bullies, etc. It’s really easy to find instances that go against this fantasy. Like every robbery where an armed security guard puts his hands up at a bank robbery.

287 Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2014 7:58:58am

re: #282 aagcobb

Its only a temporary roadblock; same-sex couples will be able to marry in Idaho very soon. Though I imagine it was a crushing disappointment to the couples ready to take the plunge today.

I hope so. I have a couple of friends who have been partners for over 20 years. While they haven’t come right out and said it, they have hinted at getting married once this stupid ban has been lifted.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 8:01:12am
289 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 8:03:17am

This vague group is fixing to take over a town in another country that I’ve never heard of!!! We must do something!!!

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 8:04:28am

This should be fun. Matt Jones has been slamming McConnell for chickening out.

291 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 8:06:14am

Oh, what’s this? A promoted tweet from the NRA. Say hello to my little block button.

292 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 8:08:53am

re: #267 Feline Fearless Leader

SO they will issue the stay while refusing to hear the appeal?

I can think of at least four justices who wish the entire issue would just go away.

293 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 8:10:29am
294 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:13:02am

re: #266 Feline Fearless Leader

So either a lot of additional legal work to clean up the language, or an attempt to make a distinction without a legal difference.

It still creates a separate but equal (although I love the term Pairage…I am officially calling myself pairried from now on!) Marriage has meaning (which is not religious) and it would be unfair to say that these people cannot get married and have the same kind of love than anyone else has - completely setting aside the legal benefits.

And I always say that all gay people should have the same right to fuck up their lives by getting married as everyone else. ;-)

295 blueraven  Oct 8, 2014 8:15:59am

Thomas Eric Duncan has died.

296 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:18:17am

re: #295 blueraven

Thomas Eric Duncan has .

Has what?

297 blueraven  Oct 8, 2014 8:18:46am

re: #295 blueraven

Thomas Eric Duncan has died.

died…sorry, fat finger. Edited

298 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:20:23am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

Hospitals around the nation are doing that - not just NYC. Still NYC is the nation’s largest international airport passenger destination (combined JFK and EWR international travel passenger traffic tops 35+ million). Miami is second with ~18.5 million. LAX has ~16.8 million. It makes sense for checking whether NYC area hospitals are prepared to deal with potential cases that have slipped through the detection systems in place in West Africa and Europe.

299 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:21:13am

re: #297 blueraven

died…sorry, fat finger. Edited

Ugh. Get ready for the next wave of blind panic.

300 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 8:21:23am

re: #295 blueraven

Thomas Eric Duncan has died .

RIP.

Now for the wingnut ghoul show over his remains.

301 Schadenboner  Oct 8, 2014 8:21:47am

I guess he doesn’t have to worry about that Liberian indictment anymore.

302 blueraven  Oct 8, 2014 8:22:08am

Thomas Eric Duncan, Ebola victim in Texas, has died

cbsnews.com

303 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 8:26:10am

re: #284 lawhawk

304 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:27:23am

re: #302 blueraven

Thomas Eric Duncan, Ebola victim in Texas, has died

cbsnews.com

That’s sad. I was hoping he would be alright. I was really hoping that the experimental drug they gave him would work. Maybe he was too far gone for it to have any affect.

I guess he is now relieved from the various threats of prosecution and hospital bills and all that. Poor guy.

305 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:29:54am

Well, that sucks.

The Texas patient, Thomas Eric Duncan, died. I figure that the right wingers will go nuts with that, but there’s a few things to keep in mind.

There have been more than 5,000 suspected cases of Ebola in the US, but only one actual confirmed case. That’s 5,000 false alarms. Each time, the health authorities have to check and contact trace to see whether other people are possibly infected, as well as rule out that the ailment is Ebola.

The CDC is fielding 800+ calls a day about suspected cases, up from about 50 a day prior to Duncan’s confirmed case.

Note too that in the past decade, the United States had five imported cases of Viral Hemorrhagic Fever diseases similar to Ebola (1 Marburg, 4 Lassa), according to the CDC.

306 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 8:31:14am

heh…Mitch did NOT do well in his interview with Matt Jones.

See Joe Sonka’s TL for highlights: twitter.com

307 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:31:14am

World Nut Daily dude strikes again.

308 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 8:32:59am

re: #283 RealityBasedSteve

curious, if they married in another state, would Idaho have to recognize that marriage?

RBS

Whether they do or not as of this moment I don’t know.

309 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:33:14am

re: #305 lawhawk

They just had a confirmed case of Marburg in Uganda.

310 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 8:34:37am

re: #305 lawhawk

The CDC is fielding 800+ calls a day about suspected cases, up from about 50 a day prior to Duncan’s confirmed case.

“The CDC is fielding 800+ calls a day about suspected cases”…..just as the flu season arrives. My office floor alone has had about 6 suspected cases people with the flu over the last 10 days.

311 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:34:54am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…Mitch did NOT do well in his interview with Matt Jones.

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See Joe Sonka’s TL for highlights: twitter.com

Sounds like ol’ Mitch needs a nap.

312 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:35:35am

re: #311 makeitstop

Sounds like ol’ Mitch needs a nap.

Mitch needs a retirement party.

313 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:36:12am

re: #312 WhatEVs

Mitch needs a retirement party.

Yeah, that, too.

314 aagcobb  Oct 8, 2014 8:38:18am

re: #313 makeitstop

Yeah, that, too.

I’m hoping the poll that shows Grimes ahead is the start of a trend and not a mere outlier. I cast my vote to retire Mitch yesterday!

315 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:38:33am

The GOP doesn’t understand the point of raising the minimum wage. They think it’s a cynical Democrat plan to get the GOP on the record for opposing the minimum wage, rather than seeking to raise the minimum wage to help low wage earners get a living wage.

316 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 8:40:09am

heh…

317 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:40:39am

re: #308 aagcobb

Full faith and credit clause should require them to honor the SSM from the other states, but several states have sued to block that from happening. Can’t recall which case involved this issue at the moment though.

318 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 8:42:41am

re: #315 lawhawk

The GOP doesn’t understand the point of raising the minimum wage. They think it’s a cynical Democrat plan to get the GOP on the record for opposing the minimum wage, rather than seeking to raise the minimum wage to help low wage earners get a living wage.

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We’ve had Republicans argue that the minimum wage hurts job growth, hurts the poor, hurts teenagers, hurts communities, and yet they want to suggest that the only reason that Democrats are putting out a vote to raise the minimum wage is to get Republicans on record as being against the minimum wage?

319 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:45:09am

And yet, the strongest cyclone on record - a typhoon in the Pacific is roaring along. Typhoon Vongfong is roaring along. It’s the strongest one since Hayun. Top speeds of 180 mph.

It’s heading for Southern Islands of Japan.

As of 6 p.m. Japanese time Wednesday (5 a.m. EDT Wednesday in the U.S.), the eye of Vongfong was just over 600 miles south-southeast of , moving west-northwest at about 8 mph.

Maximum sustained winds had tailed off a bit, but were still an estimated 165 mph, solidly the equivalent of a , according to the U.S. military’s Joint Typhoon Warning Center.

With low vertical wind shear (change in wind speed and/or direction with height), impressive outflow (winds in the upper levels spreading apart from the center, favoring upward motion and thunderstorms) and warm western Pacific water, Vongfong intensified explosively.

According to the Japan Meteorological Agency, Vongfong surpassed Genevieve for the most intense western Pacific typhoon of 2014 by estimated central pressure (900 millibars). On the JMA typhoon intensity scale, Vongfong is the third “violent typhoon” of 2014, following Genevieve and Halong.

Just because the Atlantic basin has been quiet this year doesn’t mean that cyclones (which include hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones depending on where in the world they occur) have not occurred.

It’s global warming for a reason. It’s not merely NYC weather or US weather. It’s the global climate, and it’s reason to worry.

Oh, and that ignores Sandy, which came ashore as an extratropical storm and not as a hurricane, even though the storm was a strong hurricane prior to landfall - and the landfall presented one of the worst storm surges the East Coast has seen.

320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 8:45:53am

re: #318 Targetpractice

We’ve had Republicans argue that the minimum wage hurts job growth, hurts the poor, hurts teenagers, hurts communities, and yet they want to suggest that the only reason that Democrats are putting out a vote to raise the minimum wage is to get Republicans on record as being against the minimum wage?

When people cannot live from their wages and rely on government aid, it is a de facto government wage subsidy. But the GOP is fine on welfare as long as it is the corporate kind.

321 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 8:49:08am

re: #319 lawhawk

Hey Goddard, what were Hurricane Irene (2011) and Hurricane Sandy (2012) , chopped liver? What a doofus.

322 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:51:07am

re: #315 lawhawk

The GOP doesn’t understand the point of raising the minimum wage. They think it’s a cynical Democrat plan to get the GOP on the record for opposing the minimum wage, rather than seeking to raise the minimum wage to help low wage earners get a living wage.

323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 8:51:08am

re: #318 Targetpractice

We’ve had Republicans argue that the minimum wage hurts job growth, hurts the poor, hurts teenagers, hurts communities, and yet they want to suggest that the only reason that Democrats are putting out a vote to raise the minimum wage is to get Republicans on record as being against the minimum wage?

Scott Walker administration says $7.25 an hour is a “living wage”

324 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:51:40am

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Hey Goddard, what were Hurricane Irene (2011) and Hurricane Sandy (2012) , chopped liver? What a doofus.

I was gonna say, where’s this idiot been?

325 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 8:53:06am

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Hey Goddard, what were Hurricane Irene (2011) and Hurricane Sandy (2012) , chopped liver?

I imagine they’re going by strength at time of US landfall, since of course the US is the only country on the planet that matters to them. And since Irene was only Cat 1 and Sandy not even that when they made landfall on the US, they’re not “major.”

326 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 8:54:15am

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Not major hurricanes (Cat 3 or higher) at landfall. It was a Cat 3 over the open water, but came ashore in the US at Cat 1 or tropical/extratropical storm (especially over NJ/NY/CT).

We’d just have to ignore the size of the storm, the number of people affected, and the massive and widespread flooding that resulted from those storms, even though they didn’t have the wind speeds associated with particularly devastating storms at landfall.

327 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 8:55:01am

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Hey Goddard, what were Hurricane Irene (2011) and Hurricane Sandy (2012) , chopped liver? What a doofus.

THOSE WERE OBAMA’S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!

328 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:55:08am

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Hey Goddard, what were Hurricane Irene (2011) and Hurricane Sandy (2012) , chopped liver? What a doofus.

Thank you.

329 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:56:09am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Scott Walker administration says $7.25 an hour is a “living wage”

In rural and small town Wisconsin (or America), it might be enough to keep a roof over your head. Almost everywhere else, it is not.

330 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 8:56:22am

re: #326 lawhawk

Not major hurricanes (Cat 3 or higher) at landfall. It was a Cat 3 over the open water, but came ashore in the US at Cat 1 or tropical/extratropical storm (especially over NJ/NY/CT).

We’d just have to ignore the size of the storm, the number of people affected, and the massive and widespread flooding that resulted from those storms, even though they didn’t have the wind speeds associated with particularly devastating storms at landfall.

And if they hit places like blue states.
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331 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 8:57:01am

re: #325 Targetpractice

Really? Sandy did all that damage and wasn’t even a Cat 1?

332 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 8:58:52am

re: #325 Targetpractice

I imagine they’re going by strength at time of US landfall, since of course the US is the only country on the planet that matters to them. And since Irene was only Cat 1 and Sandy not even that when they made landfall on the US, they’re not “major.”

I know a lot of people around NYC who would vociferously disagree with that assessment.

333 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 8:59:05am

re: #325 Targetpractice

I imagine they’re going by strength at time of US landfall, since of course the US is the only country on the planet that matters to them. And since Irene was only Cat 1 and Sandy not even that when they made landfall on the US, they’re not “major.”

Fair point, but they started and hit land as hurricanes and were as harmful and dangerous as ‘canes. There are areas in upstate NY and in Vermont that still haven’t fully recovered from Irene. If that’s what Goddard meant, he should’ve said it.

334 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 9:00:51am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Scott Walker administration says $7.25 an hour is a “living wage”

So out of touch, so out of time.

335 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 9:01:00am

re: #333 De Kolta Chair

Fair point, but they started and hit land and were as harmful and dangerous hurricanes. There are areas in upstate NY and in Vermont that still haven’t fully recovered. If that’s what Goddard meant, he should’ve said it.

Per en.wikipedia.org ….Sandy was a Category 3 storm at its peak intensity when it made landfall in Cuba.[1] While it was a Category 2 storm off the coast of the Northeastern United States, the storm became the largest Atlantic hurricane on record (as measured by diameter, with winds spanning 1,100 miles (1,800 km)).[2][3] Estimates as of March 2014 assess damage to have been over $68 billion (2013 USD), a total surpassed only by Hurricane Katrina.[4] …..

336 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 9:01:05am

re: #331 WhatEVs

Really? Sandy did all that damage and wasn’t even a Cat 1?

Most of the damage Sandy did was due to the fact that the NE had already experienced a pretty wet summer and so the ground was already saturated when all that wind and rain arrived.

337 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 9:01:16am

I find it amusing that Michael Weiner Savage’s new “book” is called Stop The Coming Civil War, as if he and his fellow radio barkers haven’t been doing everything in their power the past few decades to cause just such a ‘Civil War’.

338 A Mom Anon  Oct 8, 2014 9:03:18am

Oh joy and goody. Now that the Mr Duncan has died AND Foxnotreallyfuckingnews is touting that 10 members of ISIS have been stopped by the border patrol, my pet wingnuts are losing their fucking minds, just in time for lunch.

Sigh. I’m taking The Son over to a vocational rehabilitation center today to see if they can help him find a job or get some training. We shall see.

Also, PLEASE keep good vibes in your hearts today. The Husband has a shot at what looks to be a fairly decent job in Denver. We want out of here so bad, if the right opportunity presents itself. He made them an offer last night, let’s hope they’ll take it. It would be a huge change for us, and not just adjusting to altitude. It means leaving a lot behind, but if we can’t get out of here, I’m afraid we’re going to lose our home and damned near everything else.

And now it’s off to the GVRA center. Later lizards. Have a good afternoon.

339 Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2014 9:04:24am

Hey, I know I’m late to this thread, but was anyone else reminded of this?

Bart: So finally, we’re all in agreement about what’s going on with
the adults. Milhouse?
Milhouse: Ahem. OK, here’s what we’ve got: the
Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people —
Bart: Thank you.
Milhouse: under the supervision of the reverse vampires —
Lisa: [sighs]
Milhouse: are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish
plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We’re
through the looking glass, here, people…

340 wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2014 9:04:30am

This cracked me up.

341 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:05:19am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

I am sending all the positive energy I have to you. Good luck to you all!

342 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 9:05:23am

re: #337 Bulworth

I find it amusing that Michael Weiner Savage’s new “book” is called Stop The Coming Civil War, as if he and his fellow radio barkers haven’t been doing everything in their power the past few decades to cause just such a ‘Civil War’.

Seriously that’s pretty rich of him. Really these guys have made a fortune scapegoating the left and liberals for all of our society’s problems and they want to act now like they’re concerned for a civil war? That’s funny. Weiner is the same dickhead who insulted Autistic kids too. Classy guy.

343 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 9:05:26am

re: #335 Dr. Matt

My critique was more about Goddard’s smarmy tone than storm categories.

344 wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2014 9:05:29am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

Also, PLEASE keep good vibes in your hearts today. The Husband has a shot at what looks to be a fairly decent job in Denver. We want out of here so bad, if the right opportunity presents itself. He made them an offer last night, let’s hope they’ll take it. It would be a huge change for us, and not just adjusting to altitude. It means leaving a lot behind, but if we can’t get out of here, I’m afraid we’re going to lose our home and damned near everything else.

And now it’s off to the GVRA center. Later lizards. Have a good afternoon.

Fingers and toes crossed!

345 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2014 9:06:02am

re: #304 WhatEVs

That’s sad. I was hoping he would be alright. I was really hoping that the experimental drug they gave him would work. Maybe he was too far gone for it to have any affect.

I guess he is now relieved from the various threats of prosecution and hospital bills and all that. Poor guy.

Don’t worry. Texas will pursue his family regarding any bills.

346 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 9:06:10am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

Oh joy and goody. Now that the Mr Duncan has died AND Foxnotreallyfuckingnews is touting that 10 members of ISIS have been stopped by the border patrol, my pet wingnuts are losing their fucking minds, just in time for lunch.

Sigh. I’m taking The Son over to a vocational rehabilitation center today to see if they can help him find a job or get some training. We shall see.

Also, PLEASE keep good vibes in your hearts today. The Husband has a shot at what looks to be a fairly decent job in Denver. We want out of here so bad, if the right opportunity presents itself. He made them an offer last night, let’s hope they’ll take it. It would be a huge change for us, and not just adjusting to altitude. It means leaving a lot behind, but if we can’t get out of here, I’m afraid we’re going to lose our home and damned near everything else.

And now it’s off to the GVRA center. Later lizards. Have a good afternoon.

Wishing you and yours the best.

347 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 9:06:23am

re: #331 WhatEVs

Really? Sandy did all that damage and wasn’t even a Cat 1?

(busting out the old meterology class knowledge)
The Saffir Simpson scale used to describe hurricanes is based on top sustained wind speeds. It doesn’t factor size, storm surge, or populations affected.

Cat 1 is for storms with top sustained speed of 74+.

Irene and Sandy both had sustained speeds less than that at landfall. Sandy’s big damage wasn’t wind, but storm surge. Irene’s main damage was due to massive and widespread flooding.

The NWS treats Sandy as extratropical at landfall due to how the storm interacted with various fronts and airmasses.

348 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 9:06:51am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

Oh joy and goody. Now that the Mr Duncan has died AND Foxnotreallyfuckingnews is touting that 10 members of ISIS have been stopped by the border patrol, my pet wingnuts are losing their fucking minds, just in time for lunch.

Sigh. I’m taking The Son over to a vocational rehabilitation center today to see if they can help him find a job or get some training. We shall see.

Also, PLEASE keep good vibes in your hearts today. The Husband has a shot at what looks to be a fairly decent job in Denver. We want out of here so bad, if the right opportunity presents itself. He made them an offer last night, let’s hope they’ll take it. It would be a huge change for us, and not just adjusting to altitude. It means leaving a lot behind, but if we can’t get out of here, I’m afraid we’re going to lose our home and damned near everything else.

And now it’s off to the GVRA center. Later lizards. Have a good afternoon.

Hoping for the best for you, Mom.

349 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 9:06:59am

re: #337 Bulworth

I find it amusing that Michael Weiner Savage’s new “book” is called Stop The Coming Civil War, as if he and his fellow radio barkers haven’t been doing everything in their power the past few decades to cause just such a ‘Civil War’.

look who his newest bff is?

this country has gotten stupid crazy

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 9:07:55am
351 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 9:08:14am

re: #349 b.d.

look who his newest bff is?

this country has gotten stupid crazy

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That’s too much crazy for one room to contain.

352 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 9:11:53am

re:
#349

look who his newest bff is?

Sigh. Another brave soul trying to stem the tide of Civil War that he’s been busy whipping up. /

353 ausador  Oct 8, 2014 9:12:29am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

Best of luck to hubby and you.

354 Skip Intro  Oct 8, 2014 9:14:36am

re: #349 b.d.

look who his newest bff is?

this country has gotten stupid crazy

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I wonder what Weiner is going to claim he has a doctorate in this time?

355 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:14:49am

re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t worry. Texas will pursue his family regarding any bills.

Since he wasn’t married, I think TX will have a hard time with that.

356 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 9:16:02am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitch has dug his own grave: the whole argument for electing a Washington “insider” is to be represented by someone who “knows how to get things done” in Washington.

But the entire GOP strategy has been about not letting anything get done.

357 Schadenboner  Oct 8, 2014 9:16:34am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When people cannot live from their wages and rely on government aid, it is in fact a de facto government wage subsidy. But the GOP is fine on welfare as long as it is the corporate kind.

Nonsense, they want to cut medicaid and food-stamps, too!

358 Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2014 9:16:55am

re: #349 b.d.

look who his newest bff is?

this country has gotten stupid crazy

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Patient zero? This person started this whole Ebola outbreak?

359 Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2014 9:18:27am

I’d almost like to see Mr. Duncan’s relatives sue the hospital for malpractice just to see right wingers go insane. Maybe it wouldn’t have mattered, but I’d think that a two day jump on treatment would have made a fair bit of difference.

360 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:18:42am

re: #347 lawhawk

(busting out the old meterology class knowledge)
The Saffir Simpson scale used to describe hurricanes is based on top sustained wind speeds. It doesn’t factor size, storm surge, or populations affected.

Cat 1 is for storms with top sustained speed of 74+.

Irene and Sandy both had sustained speeds less than that at landfall. Sandy’s big damage wasn’t wind, but storm surge. Irene’s main damage was due to massive and widespread flooding.

The NWS treats Sandy as extratropical at landfall due to how the storm interacted with various fronts and airmasses.

I find meterology mildly fascinating (nothing like hubby tho, who is often glued to Accuweather) but if this is what mild is considered, the NWS really needs to recalculate how they measure these things. How do you tell someone to evacuate a no big deal hurricane (on paper) when all the other things make it as deadly as a Cat 5 rolling through Jamaica?

362 sagehen  Oct 8, 2014 9:23:12am

re: #347 lawhawk

(busting out the old meterology class knowledge)
The Saffir Simpson scale used to describe hurricanes is based on top sustained wind speeds. It doesn’t factor size, storm surge, or populations affected.

Cat 1 is for storms with top sustained speed of 74+.

Irene and Sandy both had sustained speeds less than that at landfall. Sandy’s big damage wasn’t wind, but storm surge. Irene’s main damage was due to massive and widespread flooding.

The NWS treats Sandy as extratropical at landfall due to how the storm interacted with various fronts and airmasses.

It certainly didn’t help that Sandy met up with a thunderstorm system in from the west, a nor’easter down from Maine, and all of them hit at the same time at high tide on full moon.

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 9:23:12am

This podcast link is working better for me (the other link is YouTube, which is still buffering):

364 sagehen  Oct 8, 2014 9:24:36am

re: #357 Schadenboner

Nonsense, they want to cut medicaid and food-stamps, too!

If all the poors would just roll over and die, we wouldn’t have poverty anymore.

365 Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2014 9:24:59am

IF Mr. Duncan died in a California or New York Hospital, the wing-nuts would be blaming Obamacare, Obama, Liberals, the governors of those states, etc

366 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 9:25:33am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

This podcast link is working better for me (the other link is YouTube, which is still buffering):

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I didn’t have a problem with the YouTube link.

Mitch sounds, umm….what’s the word?….beleaguered.

367 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 9:26:09am

re: #366 makeitstop

I didn’t have a problem with the YouTube link.

Mitch sounds, umm….what’s the word?….beleaguered.

Maybe a bottle of sherry was present and he feared being made into soup.
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368 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:27:11am

re: #366 makeitstop

I didn’t have a problem with the YouTube link.

Mitch sounds, umm….what’s the word?….beleaguered.

Not to mention lying through his teeth. As par for the course.

369 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 9:28:51am

re: #368 WhatEVs

Not to mention lying through his teeth. As par for the course.

Well his lips were moving. The only time Mitch doesn’t lie as far as I know is when he’s asleep.

370 wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2014 9:29:02am
371 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:29:47am

re: #370 wrenchwench

Coatamundi?

372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 8, 2014 9:30:16am
373 wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2014 9:30:45am

re: #371 WhatEVs

Coatamundi?

Yep, I’m pretty sure.

374 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:32:25am

re: #373 wrenchwench

I went to Tikal in Guatemala a number of years ago and on the main field, someone had left a backpack unattended and a coatamundi ran off with it…with the owner fruitlessly chasing after it. Very funny.

375 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 8, 2014 9:32:46am

re: #372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

;)

376 wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2014 9:33:09am

re: #372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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io9.com

Is Jonah in there driving the fish?

377 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 9:35:08am

re: #370 wrenchwench

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Tiny little bronts. would be WAY cooler than miniature giraffes.

RBS

378 sagehen  Oct 8, 2014 9:36:10am

re: #372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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io9.com

And this is why his followers put fish on their bumper stickers….

379 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 8, 2014 9:37:44am

re: #376 wrenchwench

Is Jonah in there driving the fish?

And segue

More than 50 sperm whales spotted off California

380 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 9:41:19am

re: #360 WhatEVs

There are some meterologists who are trying to develop different ways to measure these kinds of storms (as well as winter storms).

Winter storms are particularly interesting in this respect. Beyond calling a storm a blizzard, which relates to winds blowing 35 mph or more, or a Nor’easter (which is an extratropical storm that often contains blizzard conditions and heavy snow, there’s no way to really quantify storms. One measure is to relate snowfall to the number of people affected (regional snowfall impact - NESIS).

Some scales look at intensity.

It may be possible to do something similar with hurricanes in this fashion - one that takes storm surge, wind damage, and population into effect.

381 sattv4u2  Oct 8, 2014 9:41:28am

re: #372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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io9.com

Old joke was
“How did he walk on the water?”
Answer
“He knew where the rocks were”

382 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 9:42:43am

re: #381 sattv4u2

Old joke was
“How did he walk on the water?”
Answer
“He knew where the rocks were”

Longer version… “That new minister seems like a nice guy, should we show him where the rocks are”?

RBS

383 dog philosopher  Oct 8, 2014 9:44:53am

By the end of the process, I had come to a slightly disquieting conclusion: we are still being governed by Normans

Take house prices. According to the author Kevin Cahill,
the main driver behind the absurd expense of owning land and property
in Britain is that so much of the nation’s land is locked up by a tiny
elite. Just 0.3% of the population - 160,000 families - own two thirds
of the country. Less than 1% of the population owns 70% of the land,
running Britain a close second to Brazil for the title of the country
with the most unequal land distribution on Earth.

The land grab was not the only injustice perpetrated by the Normans
that has echoed down the centuries. William built a network of castles
with English slave labour from which he controlled the rebellious
populace by force. This method of colonisation and control was later
exported to Ireland, Scotland and Wales, as the descendants of the
Norman kings extended their empire from England to the Celtic nations.
They taxed the poor harshly (the Domesday book
is a tax collector’s manual), deepening rural poverty to enrich royal
coffers which were used to fight the continental wars that ravaged
medieval Europe. Not without justification has one historian referred to
Norman rule as a system of “medieval apartheid”.

These
days, I can’t stop myself wondering what kind of country this might be
now if William had lost at Hastings. Would we have been spared the
aristocratic estates and the hereditary monarchs? Could the industrial
revolution, even the empire, have happened in the same way without that
intense concentration of land and power? Would the English be a less
deferential people than they often still, frustratingly, are?

The Norman conquest spurred a decade-long campaign of underground
resistance by guerrilla bands across England - a story that is largely
forgotten now. The Normans called these rebels the “silvatici” - the men
of the woods, or the wild men
- and they proved as hard to defeat as guerrilla fighters always are.
Though the Normans were never expelled, the spirit of the silvatici can
be traced throughout later English history, from the Peasants’ Revolt to the tales of Robin Hood. ,Not everyone takes conquest lying down. Today’s elites might like to take note.

384 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 9:46:19am

re: #370 wrenchwench

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What, exactly, are those?

385 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 9:48:01am

re: #384 makeitstop

What, exactly, are those?

Ne’mind. I read further.

386 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:48:24am

re: #384 makeitstop

Coatamundi wiki.

Pics.

387 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 8, 2014 9:48:49am

re: #381 sattv4u2

Old joke was
“How did he walk on the water?”
Answer
“He knew where the rocks were”

Youtube Video

388 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 9:52:39am

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

389 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 9:53:21am

re: #372 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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io9.com

Jesus was visiting Pymatuning?

en.wikipedia.org

390 WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2014 9:54:02am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

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You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

Another ignorant “Dr.” Phil.

391 dog philosopher  Oct 8, 2014 9:54:25am

back neighbor is cutting down laurel tree limbs so i can have a better view of the crap he leaves in his back yard

392 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 8, 2014 9:54:40am

re: #388 lawhawk

Esp. since the RCC says that condoms are biblically verboten.

393 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 9:56:17am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

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You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

I’m sure what he REALLY meant is that as long as the bride is a virgin (with an unbroken tamper resistant seal), the man can’t catch STDs from her. Of course, if the factory seal is broken, you send her back to her father, since it’s obviously defective goods.

I wish I was only kidding, but somewhere some RWNJ would read that and go, “yes, your point is?”

RBS

394 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 9:56:23am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

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You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

“Biblically correct sex”? Is that “legitimate rape”?

395 Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2014 9:57:27am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

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You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

Screw these people wanting to take us back to “Leave it to Beaver”, they want to go back to the Goddamn Dark Ages.

396 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 9:57:48am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

[Embedded content]

You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

But Biblically correct sex means a man and wife which means no other partners which mean no spreading of disease, you heathen libtard!

397 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 9:58:30am
398 dog philosopher  Oct 8, 2014 9:59:04am

re: #388 lawhawk

“Biblically correct sex”

between one man and any of his wives

399 Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2014 10:00:27am

re: #398 dog philosopher

between one man and any of his wives

Or his livestock.

400 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 10:01:04am
401 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 10:02:15am

re: #396 b.d.

But Biblically correct sex means a man and wife which means no other partners which mean no spreading o disease, you heathen libtard!

Mother Jones is investigating!

402 Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2014 10:03:11am

re: #393 RealityBasedSteve

I’m sure what he REALLY meant is that as long as the bride is a virgin (with an unbroken tamper resistant seal), the man can’t catch STDs from her. Of course, if the factory seal is broken, you send her back to her father, since it’s obviously defective goods.

I wish I was only kidding, but somewhere some RWNJ would read that and go, “yes, your point is?”

RBS

Certain STDs like Hepatitis can be spread mother-to-child during pregnancy and birth too.

403 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 10:03:12am

re: #395 Timothy Watson

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Screw these people wanting to take us back to “Leave it to Beaver”, they want to go back to the Goddamn Dark Ages.

And note how it’s the female’s fault in that poster. She is the one spreading disease and acting indiscreet. Nothing about how generally you need two (and of different genders in that time) for sexual relations.

And unless she spawned already infected with the STD the female had to be having relations with another male to get the STD in the first place.

404 Schadenboner  Oct 8, 2014 10:03:22am

re: #399 Targetpractice

Or his livestock.

Q: How can you tell an Israelite from a Edomite?
A: The Edomite’s sheep look more nervous.

405 iossarian  Oct 8, 2014 10:03:32am

Slavoj Zizek webchat over at the Guardian!

theguardian.com

He’s got some interesting things to say on Islamic fundamentalism, academic boycotts of Israel, and many other topics!

406 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 10:03:52am

re: #386 WhatEVs

Coatamundi wiki.

Pics.

When I think of Coati Mundi, I usually think of these guys and gals…

Youtube Video

407 Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2014 10:04:18am

re: #403 Feline Fearless Leader

And note how it’s the female’s fault in that poster. She is the one spreading disease and acting indiscreet. Nothing about how generally you need two (and of different genders in that time) for sexual relations.

And unless she spawned already infected with the STD the female had to be having relations with another male to get the STD in the first place.

True, but it was the 1940s and the marketing was targeted towards men.

408 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 10:07:43am

re:
#400

Richard Land is sick and tired of gay advocates and judges trying to “ram” laws “down your throat”

Land much preferred the time when he and his ancestors could ram their laws down everyone’s throats.

409 b.d.  Oct 8, 2014 10:08:12am

re: #401 NJDhockeyfan

Mother Jones is investigating!

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That looks like a good story for Chuck C to study up on.

410 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 10:09:14am
411 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 10:09:47am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

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You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

But only through sex with whores and strumpets, which is also not “Biblically correct”.

412 Editor in Chief  Oct 8, 2014 10:09:51am

re: #319 lawhawk

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And yet, the strongest cyclone on record - a typhoon in the Pacific is roaring along. Typhoon Vongfong is roaring along. It’s the strongest one since Hayun. Top speeds of 180 mph.

It’s heading for Southern Islands of Japan.

Just because the Atlantic basin has been quiet this year doesn’t mean that cyclones (which include hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones depending on where in the world they occur) have not occurred.

It’s global warming for a reason. It’s not merely NYC weather or US weather. It’s the global climate, and it’s reason to worry.

Oh, and that ignores Sandy, which came ashore as an extratropical storm and not as a hurricane, even though the storm was a strong hurricane prior to landfall - and the landfall presented one of the worst storm surges the East Coast has seen.

Goddard (not his real name) is an idiot who spends his time finding correlations between unrelated events and calling them proof while cherry picking related correlations.

413 klys  Oct 8, 2014 10:11:02am

Woke up to find e-mail in my inbox asking if I could make it up to campus today for a short psuedo-code test for a software developer position at one of the companies I handed my resume to.

Unfortunately the answer is no, but now I’m in a weird flailing place.

414 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 10:13:17am

Co-workers are talking about someone in West Chester, NY identified as having Ebola according to reports. Sounds like this is not just another false alarm.

415 Schadenboner  Oct 8, 2014 10:13:57am

Deep thoughts on parking lot trees:

416 Editor in Chief  Oct 8, 2014 10:20:29am

re: #388 lawhawk

This is what happens when you get your sex ed from a Bible and not from health experts:

[Embedded content]

You can’t get STIs from “Biblically correct sex”? Oh really?

STDs can and are regularly transmitted via vaginal intercourse. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, etc. AIDS can and does get transmitted via vaginal intercourse.

I think the duckguy was pointing out that the combination of purely monogamous marriage and pre-marriage abstinence would prevent the spread of STDs.

It’s also a dream that would not and could not happen without chastity belts and penis locks…

417 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 10:22:15am
418 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 10:23:02am

re: #414 Feline Fearless Leader

Someone is being monitored in Tarrytown (in Westchester County) NY for possible symptoms, but it isn’t a confirmed case.

This morning, on New York Post Albany correspondent Fred Dicker’s Albany radio show on WGDJ TALK 1300, Astorino talked about a suspected Ebola case in Westchester.

“I found out late last night that there is a patient at one of our hospitals in Westchester that was from Western Africa. He has not been there recently but he has been in contact with people who were. He is being treated. They cannot tell if it’s Ebola. They do not believe that it is; they believe that it’s low-risk.

Astorino has been on Gov. Cuomo about Cuomo’s statements regarding Ebola, so Astorino’s comments (who’s running for governor, and Dicker, who hates Cuomo for his SAFE gun law with particular venom) have to be taken with some sodium chloride.

419 Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2014 10:23:36am

re: #389 Feline Fearless Leader

Jesus was visiting Pymatuning?

en.wikipedia.org

My fishing hole. Just 13 miles up the road. I didn’t see Jesus there but the walleye are biting.

420 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 10:24:43am

In other news… Huckabee Urges States To Ignore Rulings On Marriage Equality, Abortion Rights & Church-State Separation - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

This now seems to be the approach du jour, simply deny that the Courts have any jurisdiction. It’s amusing when it’s done by crazy people in the park with a comical hat, it’s more than a bit disgusting when done by people who should have a more sophisticated (ie reality based) view of the world.

You know Mr. Brown, even though the Supreme Court ruled in favor of you and your daughter, we here at the Topeka Board of Education simply don’t acknowledge their authority.

If memory serves, pretty much that exact argument worked so well for Orval Faubus down in Little Rock, Arkansas.

RBS

421 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 10:28:21am

re: #417 Lidane

A man died in Texas from Ebola.

Another man died in South Carolina from the flu.

One of these disease will kill thousands of Americans

I don’t know if you follow Jim on Facebook, but he put up a very clever expanded version of this tweet earlier.

And so, here in the United States a man has died from a highly contagious viral disease.

You might have heard of this, it made the papers this morning.

The dead man, he won’t be the last.

It begins with cold-like symptoms, sniffles, aches, sore throat. And while those symptoms persist the infected are highly contagious. A sneeze, a cough, bodily fluids, that’s all it takes. It moves through the population like wildfire along a windy California ridge.

Before he died, this man may have infected dozens of others - and they are out there, right now, in the crowd with the virus growing inside them. They could be standing next to you right now, at the bus stop, in the office, in the schools, sleeping in the bed beside you with death brewing in their bloodstream.

Before this disease has run its course many, many more will die.The average mortality rate for the untreated is 800 per 100,000, meaning maybe as many as 2 MILLION will die worldwide this year alone. Infants, the aged, those with compromised immune systems are most at risk, but it can and does kill healthy people as well.

There’s a vaccine.

Oh, yes, there is a vaccine. But many won’t take it. They won’t take it because they’re too busy, or because they believe in thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories, or because they’re afraid it’ll make them sick, or because they think vaccines are a plot by the government and big pharma to steal their money and freedom, or, well, some people just can’t afford it because they’re barely scraping by and they don’t have healthcare insurance. A lot of those people, they’re going to get sick, some will die.

So, anyway, as I…

What?

What’s that?

Vaccine? Well, sure, there’s a vaccine. Safe. Effective. Cheap. We’ve had a vaccine for years, decades. How could you not know this?

What?

Ohhhh, I see, you thought I was talking about…

No.

I was talking about the flu.

The first reported death in the US for this flu season happened yesterday in South Carolina.

But you probably didn’t see the headline, what with the Ebola and all.

422 HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2014 10:29:13am

re: #400 Lidane

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I guess he’s forgotten DOMA and FMA not to mention the numerous statewide bans on SSM but yes Dickland, the courts are “shoving” it down our throats. Why don’t you just accept the fact that your GLBT fellow citizens are entitled to the same rights as you and stop crying like a child over it.

423 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 8, 2014 10:30:07am

Check this article about the Spanish nurse with Ebola. The hospitals messed up really bad.

talkingpointsmemo.com

424 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 10:32:59am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Check this article about the Spanish nurse with Ebola. The hospitals messed up really bad.

talkingpointsmemo.com

I am still pissed off over the blatant ignorance that led to the authorities euthanizing her dog.

425 Skip Intro  Oct 8, 2014 10:34:49am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

To be fair, it’s not as though hospitals have any experience dealing with this horrible disease. They will get better as more cases develop in western nations (and they will).

426 Lidane  Oct 8, 2014 10:35:08am

re: #421 makeitstop

I wasn’t following Jim but I am now.

I’d share that post on my FB but I’m limited to my phone right now so typing out a few thoughts would be a PITA. I’ll share it tonight, I’m sure.

427 klys  Oct 8, 2014 10:35:19am

re: #425 Skip Intro

To be fair, it’s not as though hospitals have any experience dealing with this horrible disease. They will get better as more cases develop in western nations (and they will).

…no, you really need to read it. This wasn’t they have no experience, this was just a clusterfuck.

428 Eater of Dead Things  Oct 8, 2014 10:36:53am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am still pissed off over the blatant ignorance that led to the authorities euthanizing her dog.

They did go through with it?

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 10:37:14am

re: #419 Eventual Carrion

My fishing hole. Just 13 miles up the road. I didn’t see Jesus there but the walleye are biting.

Well, if Jesus cast his bread upon the waters over by the spillway he could be walking on carp shortly afterwards.

(Familiar a little bit with the area from my brother attending Allegheny and my mother living in Meadville for a few years in the late 1990’s.)

430 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 8, 2014 10:38:52am

re: #425 Skip Intro

To be fair, it’s not as though hospitals have any experience dealing with this horrible disease. They will get better as more cases develop in western nations (and they will).

no, but infectious disease protocols are well understood, and when you have a person who apparently broke protocol on herself, and then developed a fever, one would think that the prudent approach would be to immediately assume worst case. This is not an individual off the street who’s feeling generally unwell, it’s someone who was highly involved with a known Ebola patient.

I never got past EMT, and I could see the fail here.

RBS

431 makeitstop  Oct 8, 2014 10:39:21am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Check this article about the Spanish nurse with Ebola. The hospitals messed up really bad.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Wow, that’s some world-class ineptitude right there.

432 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 10:41:08am

re: #428 Stanley Sea

They did go through with it?

Read somewhere this morning that they did.

433 Bulworth  Oct 8, 2014 10:41:21am

re:
#420

Lalalalalala we don’t hear you lalalalalalalalalalal

434 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 8, 2014 10:41:54am

re: #420 RealityBasedSteve

In other news… Huckabee Urges States To Ignore Rulings On Marriage Equality, Abortion Rights & Church-State Separation - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

This now seems to be the approach du jour, simply deny that the Courts have any jurisdiction. It’s amusing when it’s done by crazy people in the park with a comical hat, it’s more than a bit disgusting when done by people who should have a more sophisticated (ie reality based) view of the world.

You know Mr. Brown, even though the Supreme Court ruled in favor of you and your daughter, we here at the Topeka Board of Education simply don’t acknowledge their authority.

If memory serves, pretty much that exact argument worked so well for Orval Faubus down in Little Rock, Arkansas.

RBS

No money out of Huck’s pocket while a locality fights a series of quixotic (and obviously losing) lawsuits.

Though in this case it will be a state or two over SSM rather than a local school board over teaching creationism.

435 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 8, 2014 10:44:04am
436 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 8, 2014 10:44:10am

re: #425 Skip Intro

To be fair, it’s not as though hospitals have any experience dealing with this horrible disease. They will get better as more cases develop in western nations (and they will).

and will cost at least ten times as much as it would have cost to help prevent the spread of the disease in Africa in the first place.

437 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 10:44:16am

OK, as of two hours ago, the dog is still alive, according to NPR.

438 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2014 10:45:54am

translation: “One dog in Madrid has generated more mobilization and news than thousands of deaths from Ebola in Africa. Something to reflect on.”

439 klys  Oct 8, 2014 10:46:31am
No amount of polls of Muslims denouncing ISIS will authenticate our humanity to the average Westerner who trusts propagated tropes from a culture industry more than anything else. It does not matter to the average bigot whether 126 senior Islamic scholars hailing from various parts of the Middle East, Europe, South Asia, North Africa and beyond theologically make clear in an open 24-bullet letter that the deeds of ISIS are entirely un-Islamic because to the average bigot, Islam is beyond redemption and its followers deserve to be punished by virtue of the faith they follow.

This seemed relevant per the continued “Islam is the worstest” bigotry in the pages.

440 lawhawk  Oct 8, 2014 10:47:07am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Check this article about the Spanish nurse with Ebola. The hospitals messed up really bad.

talkingpointsmemo.com

That is some seriously stunning breaches of protocol on dealing with Ebola - from the moment the person touched their face to the hospital not initiating isolation protocols the moment the nurse began experiencing fever, to then letting her potentially infect others while waiting at yet another hospital emergency room.

But most people will end up focusing on the dog, which is well besides the point. Doctors had a chance to arrest the development of symptoms or mitigate the potential infection of others by isolating the nurse right after the first symptom developed, but missed those opportunities.

This wasn’t just someone who had flown in and potentially not realized they had come into contact with an Ebola patient (which is one version of events in Dallas). The nurse knew she had been caring for an Ebola patient. The doctors and hospital knew. And screwed up.

441 Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2014 10:56:16am

re: #429 Feline Fearless Leader

Well, if Jesus cast his bread upon the waters over by the spillway he could be walking on carp shortly afterwards.

(Familiar a little bit with the area from my brother attending Allegheny and my mother living in Meadville for a few years in the late 1990’s.)

My youngest and I like to go and throw bread in between the carp and birds (gulls and ducks) to see which one gets to it first. We call it the dough battles.

442 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 8, 2014 2:17:47pm

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Scott Walker administration says $7.25 an hour is a “living wage”

Cool. Let’s pay the Governor & legislators that. We’ll have them punch in and out every day too. Since it’s a living wage they no longer need their per Diem either.

443 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 8, 2014 2:18:52pm

re: #329 WhatEVs

In rural and small town Wisconsin (or America), it might be enough to keep a roof over your head. Almost everywhere else, it is not.

Dead thread but…
At $7.75 I make $25 a month more than my bills.


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