NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert: Jackson Browne

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Jackson Browne’s early albums were the soundtrack to my teenage years, and this NPR Tiny Desk Concert shows him still evoking the themes that touched my heart all those years ago, with an excellent band as always.

My admiration for Jackson Browne began with his first album in 1971. I was wowed by the fact that the singer-songwriter had worked with Nico of Velvet Underground fame — his girlfriend at the time — on her first album, Chelsea Girl. He wrote one of my favorite songs on that record, “These Days.”

More than 40 years on, my appreciation continues to grow. Browne still writes songs with conviction and craftsmanship and careful attention to detail. At the same time, there’s a perceptible loosening of attitude: His Tiny Desk Concert performance isn’t perfect, his heart showing through every crack in his voice.

Browne can be seen out and about in other informal settings besides this one. At the Newport Folk Festival a few years ago, you could hear him play formally and informally with Tom Morello, Conor Oberst, Dawes and more. Back home on the West Coast, he might just sit in when Sara and Sean Watkins put on theirWatkins Family Hour variety show at Largo.

This week, Jackson Browne turns 66 and releases his 14th album, Standing In The Breach. It’s a record that fully captures his rare ability to mix activism with poetry: His stature allows him freedom — he’s largely free of obligations — with the ability to play comfortably with musicians of his own choosing. Yet he continues to stretch, working alongside much younger players with different talents and interests, sharing his talents and finding inspiration. It’s that passion for playing and exploring that brings Browne to things like the Tiny Desk Concert, an awkwardly intimate setting for such a popular performer. — BOB BOILEN

Set List:
“Call It A Loan”
“The Barricades Of Heaven”
“Long Way Around”

Credits:
Producers: Bob Boilen, Denise DeBelius; Editor: Maggie Starbard; Audio Engineer: Suraya Mohamed; Videographers: Colin Marshall, Maggie Starbard, Susan Hale Thomas; Assistant Producer: Denise DeBelius; Photo by James Clark/NPR

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313 comments
1 retired cynic  Oct 8, 2014 8:40:24pm

I heard that, and enjoyed it very much!

2 De Kolta Chair  Oct 8, 2014 8:45:24pm


I like this one better. Thanks for the tune.

3 psddluva4evah  Oct 8, 2014 8:50:48pm

Another possible shady killing in Ferguson, the media has a new shiny penny to play with (back to the damn SS Cartegna again, who’ll be the first to say that Obama KNEW rather than some WH aide, might have known), Darren Wilson still at large and Leon Panetta and now Jimmy Carter out here saying Obama has no idea what he’s doing. Oh yeah…and EBOLA!

Ugh and we still just a little over 1 week into October…ugh.

I’m trying my best to ignore as much as possible, cause in 3 weeks, I’ll be on my first trip to Hawaii, and my goal is to ignore all this mess.

4 danarchy  Oct 8, 2014 8:50:48pm

I’ve never been a huge Jackson Browne fan, but I have a soft spot in my heart for “The load out” from my college roadie days.

5 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2014 8:54:45pm

Well this is a nice video. I had been taking in some Neil Young when I saw the fresh thread. Tiny Desk is just a brilliant idea anyway.

6 klys  Oct 8, 2014 8:55:32pm

There has been some good hockey tonight.

I’m happy to have my sport back.

7 teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2014 8:55:53pm
8 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 8:57:14pm

One of the more disturbing aspects of the universe is that the number of clueless fucks is not conserved.

9 Jenner7  Oct 8, 2014 8:58:02pm

This. is. bad.

Don’t condone the insults at police, but I see why they are upset.

10 psddluva4evah  Oct 8, 2014 8:58:16pm

Sooo, yeah…3 more weeks until my Hawaii vacation.

I’ve been looking into the different things I’d like to do.

So I’ll be in Honolulu the longest. I’ll be using public transportation for the first part of the Honolulu trip. So I’m looking at all the possible places I can get to on the Bus, which as I’ve been reading can get you almost everywhere on O’ahu. I’m already thinking the Iolani Palace and The Dole Plantation (I’d really love to see the Pineapple maze) and of course Pearl Harbor. All of which you can get to via the Bus.

I’ve already ruled out hiking Diamond Head though, I know my body’s limitations and after reading the description at the website, I just already kinda realized that the steepness of the trail would really NOT be fun for me. I’d like to NOT spend my time on vacation in a ER room for having an asthma attack. Still I’m gonna see how much an aerial tour would be, and if I come into some extra funds, I’ll try that.

The final bit of my vacation will be 3 days 2 night in Hilo. That trip is gonna be ALL about Volcano National Park. Then home to NOLA via overnight in Oakland.

So I’ll be spending about 1 whole day in Oakland. I’d like to see some of San Francisco, so I’m thinking the cheapest and easiest is probably gonna be one of those hop on/hop off tours, but I’ll have to see. The primary purpose of this trip is Hawaii, so i’m not really looking to spend much money in the Bay area.

On my last 2 nights in Honolulu before heading to Hilo, I’m going to rent a car and use it to go driving around the Oahu island and checking out as much as I can. I’m hoping for great weather.

I also love to go to a Luau, but there are soo many I’m still trying to decide.

Relaxation is also on the menu.

11 klys  Oct 8, 2014 8:58:31pm

The handy Vine UI reminder: if you click on the video, it stops looping.

12 allegro  Oct 8, 2014 8:59:54pm

re: #4 danarchy

I’ve never been a huge Jackson Browne fan, but I have a soft spot in my heart for “The load out” from my college roadie days.

I wasn’t a big fan back in the day, but now when I hear his voice I find it very comforting. It’s like it takes me back bit to a gentle, mellow place filled with sweet memories.

13 klys  Oct 8, 2014 9:01:47pm

re: #10 psddluva4evah

You can do a lot in the Bay Area in just one day! It’s easy to take the ferry over to SF from Jack London Square in Oakland, or there’s BART (but I’d recommend the ferry at least one way if you can swing it).

The public transportation in SF is pretty good, too. Happy to make recommendations on food/fun things to do/etc. based on what your interests are. :)

14 allegro  Oct 8, 2014 9:19:54pm

I had a funny experience this morning at the liquor store. I was there stocking up for tomorrow night’s football game (Colts @Texans) tomorrow night before the grocery run. (My place is football party central.) So I get to the check out counter and comment that I’m now ready for the game and the cashier and I get into a conversation about Sunday’s overtime loss to the Cowboys. The other cashier and another customer right behind me get into it as well. Very energetic conversation about QB Fitzpatrick’s interceptions, J.J.’s thigh pain, and will Clowney ever play an actual game?

So what was amusing about this? We were all women. The one guy there who was on the other side of the store stocking the shelves was hollering trying to get in on the conversation - he didn’t have a prayer. LOL

15 Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2014 9:23:39pm

Things are getting really bad in St. Louis tonight.

16 Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2014 9:26:31pm

I always love it when people whose entire timelines are filled with insults toward me and screenshots of LGF comments and posts accuse me of stalking them. When I never post a single tweet about them.

These people are sick in the head.

17 psddluva4evah  Oct 8, 2014 9:26:48pm

re: #13 klys

thx. I will have a full day in the Bay Area. I was gonna rent a vehicle but I figured I’d save money by just using BART and the easiest way to see SF in a day is to just do one of those hop on hop off tours.

as for food, I love Asian/PanAsian cuisine, I.e Chinese is my fav but since going to India in 2010, Indian food is a close second.

18 dog philosopher  Oct 8, 2014 9:31:27pm

i think the ebolas will go hide under the bed soon and we can get back to ww iii

19 goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2014 9:33:23pm

re: #11 klys

The handy Vine UI reminder: if you click on the video, it stops looping.

Vine is for lepers.

I’m phoning it in now.

20 sagehen  Oct 8, 2014 9:34:42pm

re: #10 psddluva4evah

So I’ll be spending about 1 whole day in Oakland. I’d like to see some of San Francisco, so I’m thinking the cheapest and easiest is probably gonna be one of those hop on/hop off tours, but I’ll have to see. The primary purpose of this trip is Hawaii, so i’m not really looking to spend much money in the Bay area.

If you only have a day for SF, don’t try to see everything. Pick one spot (maybe Ghiradelli Square, or Golden Gate Park), and just spend a few hours there.

Or go for a meal — SF is known for meals you can’t get anywhere else. If you like seafood, check Zagat’s for a ciappino place within easy walking distance of your chosen transport. The oldest Chinatown in the US, some of the restaurants have been in business more than a century, the Peking Duck is amazing (better than you’d get even in China). Sourdough bread should be just about everywhere.

21 allegro  Oct 8, 2014 9:37:40pm

re: #18 dog philosopher

i think the ebolas will go hide under the bed soon and we can get back to ww iii

Ebola is here to stay for a while. Like AIDS circa 1982, it’s a biggie. It’s another trifecta - deadly, contagious, and an excuse to be a hateful bigot.

22 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 10:00:05pm

I don’t know if ebola can be spread by canines:

Ebola virus: Spanish protests as nurse’s dog is put down

23 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 10:04:30pm

The other day I linked to a story about a lesbian couple suing over the race of their (donated semen) black baby.

Now we have this updated to an older story:

Report: surrogate baby rejected in India on gender

An Australian couple rejected their biological child born to an Indian surrogate mother because of the baby’s gender, but took home its twin sibling, a judge said.

News of the case that dates back to 2012 follows a recent furor over an Australian couple that left behind a disabled twin born to a Thai surrogate mother that prompted a ban on commercial surrogacy in Thailand.

[…]

Our reproductive technologies have outpaced our ability to accept the side effects.

24 Jordy LuhPhorj  Oct 8, 2014 10:13:51pm

re: #17 psddluva4evah

If you have a smartphone handy, I recommend downloading both the Uber and Lyft apps. You can just wander around SF on foot. When you get tired of the hills call an Uber and boom they are there. SF is chock full of Uber cars, last time I was in SF I got a ride from the Marina to the Mission for under 9 bucks. It beats the totally insane cabbies.

25 freetoken  Oct 8, 2014 10:25:12pm

The allowing of gay marriage and also non-discrimination ordinances is really, really causing havoc among the fundamentalists.

Apparently Missouri is about to be turned in to the Soviet Union:

The Criminalization of Heartland Christianity

I’ve concluded that fundamentalism is much more about sex than it is about God.

26 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 8, 2014 10:29:14pm

re: #24 Jordy LuhPhorj

We took my parents to San Fran and on a tour of northern/central cal. It was fun driving down Lombard st in a chevy suburban lol

27 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 10:32:59pm

re: #25 freetoken

I don’t understand how legalizing same sex marriage is somehow infringing in the religious liberties of anyone. No one is forcing them to marry same-sex couples, or marry someone of the same gender. Different-sex marriages will continue as before. AoG pastors are unlikely to be approached to officiate at same-sex weddings, so they will not need to experience uncomfortable moments of saying no!

Other issues that fundies oppose — gambling, booze, porn — continue apace, yet these are never characterized as infringing on fundies’ religious liberties. It’s all about TEH SEX, as you say, and mostly about MEN-MEN SEX, which says a lot about these people think about.

28 allegro  Oct 8, 2014 10:45:35pm

re: #25 freetoken

The allowing of gay marriage and also non-discrimination ordinances is really, really causing havoc among the fundamentalists.

Apparently Missouri is about to be turned in to the Soviet Union:

The Criminalization of Heartland Christianity

I’ve concluded that fundamentalism is much more about sex than it is about God.

I suspect it’s the flip side of their favorite coin that says “I got mine, fuck you.” The other side says “You will NOT enjoy that which I cannot cuz reasons.”

29 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 10:48:57pm

re: #28 allegro

I suspect it’s the flip side of their favorite coin that says “I got mine, fuck you.” The other side says “You will NOT enjoy that which I cannot cuz reasons.”

Yes, “compassionate conservatism” at its best.

30 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 8, 2014 10:50:00pm

Time to teach some things to some people. Hasta luego.

31 Jenner7  Oct 8, 2014 10:59:35pm
32 allegro  Oct 8, 2014 11:02:53pm

re: #23 freetoken

The other day I linked to a story about a lesbian couple suing over the race of their (donated semen) black baby.

Now we have this updated to an older story:

Report: surrogate baby rejected in India on gender

Our reproductive technologies have outpaced our ability to accept the side effects.

I have to feel a certain benevolence towards that lesbian couple. As a woman, if I was “making a baby” with a man, I would have a legitimate expectation of that offspring’s characteristics. There’s a reason why sperm banks include donor’s genotypes since most parents want children who resemble themselves. Ego, yes. But also social acceptance without question, I think, and for the sakes of both child and parents. An error such as this sperm bank made is a serious one with life long consequences and I think it should be made accountable.

33 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 8, 2014 11:06:38pm

I am in no way using this pic to demonize all police, as I know there are so many good ones out there. But I thought this was quite funny when I saw it.

34 goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2014 11:27:59pm

re: #32 allegro

An error such as this sperm bank made is a serious one with life long consequences and I think it should be made accountable.

I have two major reservations about this story.

1.) Are we 100% sure that the bank gave them a different donor’s semen? My immediate suspicion was that the mother may have not wanted to admit she cheated on her partner, and that the bank made for a rather convenient scapegoat.

2.) This wouldn’t be the first time that an ostensibly “white” mother and father produced a phenotypically dark skinned child, e.g. Sandra Laing. The mother may well be leaping to an erroneous conclusion.

35 sagehen  Oct 8, 2014 11:31:34pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

I have two major reservations about this story.

1.) Are we 100% sure that the bank gave them a different donor’s semen? My immediate suspicion was that the mother may have not wanted to admit she cheated on her partner, and that the bank made for a rather convenient scapegoat.

2.) This wouldn’t be the first time that an ostensibly “white” mother and father produced a phenotypically dark skinned child, e.g. Sandra Laing. The mother may well be leaping to an erroneous conclusion.

They’re a lesbian couple.

36 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 8, 2014 11:37:49pm

Yes. And?

both of GDF’s points are still possible. I know a lesbian blues musician who would pick up boys when drunk even though her sober preference was very much against them.

37 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 8, 2014 11:40:59pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

I remember reading about this many years ago. Apartheid was interesting, because unlike America, they did not have a one drop rule. If you looked white, you were white. So there were many instances of a family all having everyone classified differently by law. A family with parents that looked white even though they had mixed ancestry would be legally white. They could have children and one might have a more African or Asian phenotype and be classified as colored, and another one who looked white would be classified as legally white.

A lot of white south Africans have distant African or Malay (the natives of the Island that would later become the Philippines) ancestry from during a period of time when modern racism had not yet set in. But again, since there was not a one drop rule, the fact they had this ancestry didn’t matter.

38 goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2014 11:42:57pm

re: #35 sagehen

They’re a lesbian couple.

Yeah, I know, so? Some lesbians are bi, and some of them cheat, because they’re people. I see no reason at all to simply assume her being in a lesbian relationship makes it any more likely that the bank made a mistake. We should be asking the same questions we’d ask if she were straight.

39 Kragar  Oct 8, 2014 11:46:18pm
40 klys  Oct 9, 2014 12:00:47am

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

I have two major reservations about this story.

1.) Are we 100% sure that the bank gave them a different donor’s semen? My immediate suspicion was that the mother may have not wanted to admit she cheated on her partner, and that the bank made for a rather convenient scapegoat.

2.) This wouldn’t be the first time that an ostensibly “white” mother and father produced a phenotypically dark skinned child, e.g. Sandra Laing. The mother may well be leaping to an erroneous conclusion.

Do your reservations take into account the fact that the clinic refunded some of their money and sent a letter apologizing for the mix-up, per the filed complaint - a claim that is incredibly easy to prove at trial and would be foolish to make if untrue?

41 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 9, 2014 12:08:10am

Am I the only one, who when they can’t sleep, often find themselves in the stranger parts of the internet, like, looking at medical photos of people who were born with tails?

42 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 12:20:24am

re: #40 klys

Do your reservations take into account the fact that the clinic refunded some of their money and sent a letter apologizing for the mix-up, per the filed complaint - a claim that is incredibly easy to prove at trial and would be foolish to make if untrue?

Ah, I see. Why isn’t Dr. Spirtos named in the suit? The Dr. performed the insemination without double checking the donor number. Looks like there were no checks at the fertility clinic end to make sure they product they were putting into their clients was the correct one ordered. Seems like there’s a stronger case for actual medical malpractice that’s not being pursued.

43 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 1:17:50am

Feral Girl ate the tag off the mattress.

I think we may be harboring a fugitive from the law.

bbl

44 Decatur Deb  Oct 9, 2014 1:27:00am

re: #40 klys

Do your reservations take into account the fact that the clinic refunded some of their money and sent a letter apologizing for the mix-up, per the filed complaint - a claim that is incredibly easy to prove at trial and would be foolish to make if untrue?

The couple deserves a refund. The clinic only delivered 3/5ths of the advertised product.

45 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 1:56:38am

re: #25 freetoken

The allowing of gay marriage and also non-discrimination ordinances is really, really causing havoc among the fundamentalists.

Apparently Missouri is about to be turned in to the Soviet Union:

The Criminalization of Heartland Christianity

I’ve concluded that fundamentalism is much more about sex than it is about God.

It’s about control, but sex is a major tool in controlling people’s actions.

46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 1:58:01am

re: #33 I Stand With Big Sodomy!

I am in no way using this pic to demonize all police, as I know there are so many good ones out there. But I thought this was quite funny when I saw it.

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I wish it were just a matter of a few “bad eggs” out there, but as we have seen with the LA and Ferguson PD, the rot goes all the way to the top (and sometimes beyond).

47 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 3:12:40am

In Seattle, somebody spray painted a penis on a Bugatti Veyron.

Me, right now.

I’m not very mature.

48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 3:47:42am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

In Seattle, somebody spray painted a penis on a Bugatti Veyron.

We can only feel sorry for the guy, and not because he got his car vandalized…

49 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 3:52:33am

Fucking BEES, man!

A swarm of bees from a hive estimated to hold 800,000 attacked four landscapers Wednesday morning in southern Arizona, leaving one dead and another critically injured.

…

In the past, such attacks have been described as a scene straight from a horror film, with swarms so large the sky turns dark. The roar fills victims’ ears. Bees clog their mouths and nostrils when they try to breathe. And hundreds — or thousands — of stingers akin to hypodermic needles pump poison into their skin. The smell of honeybee venom has been compared to bananas.

50 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 3:57:25am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Fucking BEES, man!

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Egad, I used to earn money as a student by working as a beekeeper outside Tucson, AZ. Hard work, but well paid for back then (five bucks an hour plus overtime)

51 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 3:57:26am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Fucking BEES, man!

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OBAMA AND ISIL’S LATEST ATTACKS ON TEH RED STATES!!1!

52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:04:29am

re: #36 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes. And?

both of GDF’s points are still possible.

Possible doesn’t mean probable. One shouldn’t prefer the more far-fetched scenarios to the more probable ones.

53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 4:12:55am

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Possible doesn’t mean probable. One shouldn’t prefer the more far-fetched scenarios to the more probable ones.

The most probable is that Obama is the secret sperm donor as part of his plan to undermine the White Race in America.

/

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 4:19:08am

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Possible doesn’t mean probable. One shouldn’t prefer the more far-fetched scenarios to the more probable ones.

Knowing humans, I find promiscuity very plausible…

55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:25:25am

re: #54 William Barnett-Lewis

Knowing humans, I find promiscuity very plausible…

Even in the case of a heterosexual couple one would have no ground to say the wife cheated, unless there is concrete evidence (so it’s 50/50 = we don’t know). With a lesbian couple the probability goes down significantly.

56 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:26:20am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The most probable is that Obama is the secret sperm donor as part of his plan to undermine the White Race in America.

/

Actually it was Frank Marshall Davis.

57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:28:18am

58 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 4:29:11am

re: #55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Let’s just say that is not my experience watching couples of all sorts of sexuality & / or gender. I known some very faithful & just as many unfaithful couples.

59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:33:54am

re: #58 William Barnett-Lewis

I find the claim that lesbians cheating on their partners with males is more of a rule rather than an exception rather implausible.

60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 4:39:59am

61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 4:42:57am

re: #59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I find the claim that lesbians cheating on their partners with males is more of a rule rather than an exception rather implausible.

Human sexuality is not an “if x then y” sort of proposition

62 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 4:54:31am

re: #57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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THANKS OBAMA!!1! oh, wait…

63 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 4:56:11am

re: #60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Extrapolating from the data, by 2050, chickens will be 8 kg and too fat to walk.

64 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 4:56:51am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi

Extrapolating from the data, by 2050, chickens will be 8 kg and too fat to walk.

they won’t need to walk, just roll into the mechanical separator.

65 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 4:59:02am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is this part of that “White Genocide” I keep hearing about?
//

66 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 4:59:46am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi

Extrapolating from the data, by 2050, chickens will be 8 kg and too fat to walk.

Reason #394,203 to take extrapolating based on regression analysis with a grain of salt?

67 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:00:24am

re: #52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Possible doesn’t mean probable. One shouldn’t prefer the more far-fetched scenarios to the more probable ones.

I hadn’t read the complaint before commenting, which I’ll admit was dumb. The actual complaint does raise some questions, like why the doctor who performed the actual insemination procedures wasn’t named. There seems to have been a breakdown in communication, which is obvious, but it was structural in nature. The fertility clinic put the onus on the client to contact the sperm bank, order and pay directly, but the sperm was delivered to and stored at the clinic. The clinic didn’t ask what the correct donor number was supposed to be, or didn’t check. Either way it’s them actually putting the stuff into the patient, so there’s some vicariously liability on their part that is inexplicably not being pursued.

Also, the way the mother paints the community she lives in as backwards and racist is likely to cause as much or more unpleasantness for her family than her child’s racial differentness. Of course she had to file suit within a certain timeframe and couldn’t just wait for the community to surprise her with an enlightened attitude, so there may have been no plausible way to avoid this.

Anyway, she’s undoubtedly going out of her way to paint having a black child as being more of a burden for her than a white child would be, and she’s casting this burden in terms of actual harm, because that’s all the courts are set up to deal with. Maybe this is objectively true, she’s definitely having to and will continue having to confront issues she otherwise wouldn’t. It’s still kind of an uncomfortable message to send to minority children of white parents.

68 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 5:01:07am

re: #65 Frenchy

Is this part of that “White Genocide” I keep hearing about?
//

As soon as white folks are the minority, our goose is cooked. We know what happens to minorities on this continent…

69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 5:02:23am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

She paid for a service and did not get what she ordered, but unlike KFC, where you can take back the dark meat and get white in its place, she is kinda stuck with the outcome…

70 Decatur Deb  Oct 9, 2014 5:04:08am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

She paid for a service and did not get it, and unlike KFC, where you can take back the dark meat and get white in its place, she is kinda stuck with the product…

OTOH, “Tort” is a cute name for a kid.

71 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 5:08:04am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they won’t need to walk, just roll into the mechanical separator.

Sadly, it’s probably what will happen. Industrial-sized chickens bred only for breast meat.

Chinese chickens are mostly in the 1950-1978 size still.

72 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:09:27am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

She paid for a service and did not get it, and unlike KFC, where you can take back the dark meat and get white in its place, she is kinda stuck with the product…

I get that, but a child as a product is a very dicey analogy. It was always going to be half hers and half some donor she never met, and in the end that’s what she got. Even with the correct donor it could have been born with any number of debilitating physical defects that she couldn’t sue over and that would have caused much greater burdens. Instead by all accounts she has a healthy daughter. Yes the sperm bank fucked up, and so did the fertility clinic that isn’t being sued, but the court is going to have some very interesting questions to answer about the nature of the actual harm here.

73 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:14:55am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

She paid for a service and did not get it, and unlike KFC, where you can take back the dark meat and get white in its place, she is kinda stuck with the product…

Also, she wasn’t “stuck with the product.” People can and do abandon their children all the time. It’s a totally fucking shitty thing to do, but they do it for all kinds of reasons. She wants to keep the kid, because her and her partner have bonded with it, which is awesome. But at the same time she wants to maintain that what she got was somehow legally inferior to what she had planned on. Keep in mind that the sperm bank never promised her a child, only viable sperm from a specific donor, the second part of which they admittedly fucked up.

I think she’s definitely owed something for the incompetence at play, something beyond a mere refund, but I’m glad I’m not the one to figure out what that is.

74 freetoken  Oct 9, 2014 5:16:08am

Re-messaging at its most sublime - the difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution.

Really, he’s at it again, Mike Fair, Republican in SC:

Fair: SC should teach the controversy of evolution

[…]

I was involved in the conversation at the EOC on the evolution standard and initially proposed the change encouraging scientific debate. I am a Christian by the grace of God; therefore I have a Christian world view.

There are those who believe that my world view disqualifies me and other anti-Darwinists from participating in the evolution conversation. These same people do not condemn that influence on my work to defend women, children, prison inmates, etc.

The evolution controversy often comes down to understanding the difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution. That is, did biological change occur gradually and cross lines differentiating phylum, or did different species emerge fully formed within categories of phylum, as the Cambrian fossil record indicates?

Gradual change, non-directed and randomly occurring, is Darwin’s theory. Taken as a whole, the fossil record does not show the intermediaries necessary for the philosophical leaps that are inherent in Darwin’s theory. Darwin and others said the missing links would be discovered over time. However, the missing links are still missing.

[…]

MISSING LINKS!!!!!

And then he wonders why people accuse him of wanting to push religion in public schools…

75 freetoken  Oct 9, 2014 5:20:31am

When I originally linked the story about the lesbian couple suing the fertility doctor my point was about their claim that they are afraid the child will grow up somehow stigmatized because of the locale in which they lived.

However, I questioned about how will the child feel when he is older knowing his parents didn’t want him so much that they filed a lawsuit over his existence.

There’s being stigmatized, and then there’s feeling really not wanted.

76 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:24:18am

re: #75 freetoken

When I originally linked the story about the lesbian couple suing the fertility doctor …

They’re suing the sperm bank, but not the fertility clinic doctor who actually performed the procedure. That’s the thing that most strikes me as odd, the Dr. had an actual medical fiduciary duty to the woman. At some point due diligence was not performed to make sure what they were putting in their patient was what she’d actually ordered. They just assumed that the sperm bank had sent over the correct vial, but nobody on their end checked the donor number on the vials vs. the patient’s expectations.

77 freetoken  Oct 9, 2014 5:26:03am

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

Yes, I stand corrected.

78 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 5:27:39am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi

Extrapolating from the data, by 2050, chickens will be 8 kg and too fat to walk.

Some of the meat breeds are already at the point that they can put on so much weight that they start dislocating their own legs. My brother discovered this about a decade ago when he first started keeping chickens.

He only did meat breeds for a year or two before going to a egg-laying breeds only flock.

79 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 5:27:43am

re: #75 freetoken

Part of me would like to hope that they could somehow keep the child from finding about it, but information will only become more ubiquitous in the coming years, not less, so that would probably be very difficult to do.

I’m not sure what I’d do. Clearly she does have a valid claim in some sense…on the other hand, if I didn’t feel I’d be able to give a good explanation to the child 10-15 years down the road for why I filed this lawsuit, I might decide to accept it and move on.

80 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 5:28:26am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

DOH!

81 A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2014 5:28:31am

re: #17 psddluva4evah

Oakland has a Rosie the Riveter museum. I’m sure there are others in the area if that’s your thing… (and if you even see this because I’m chiming in way late)

82 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 5:31:04am

re: #74 freetoken

Straight from the Discovery Institoot play book, and the same pseudo-scientific malarkey that the “anti-evolutionists” have been pushing since Darwin was alive. To the masses, it sounds like science, with all kinds of big, fancy words, so it must be science.

Pity it makes no logical sense.

83 freetoken  Oct 9, 2014 5:31:35am

Some neat photos here:

Indonesia’s Mount Sinabung Volcano Shows Nature’s Wrath

But once again I notice how the headline writer had to anthropomorphize the volcano.

Creationism runs deep, and making the universe fit a teleologic frame is part of that.

84 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 5:32:55am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As soon as white folks are the minority, our goose is cooked. We know what happens to minorities on this continent…

I heard that line from a “might makes right” fraternity brother back in 1985 or so. We get to lord over things, and once we’re not in charge then we get to play bottom rail and deserve it. Enlightened in an unenlightened way I guess.

He was a fairly amoral jerk who drank quite a bit. A few years after college he got Jesus in a serious way and turned into an overly moral, very sober, evangelical jerk. He’s pretty much a solid example of a person who seems to switch from one extreme behavior pattern to another without ever finding any sort of middle ground.

85 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 5:34:27am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The most probable is that Obama is the secret sperm donor as part of his plan to undermine the White Race in America.

/

instead of the Boys from Brazil, it will be the Boys from Kenya.

:0

86 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 5:35:07am

re: #84 Feline Fearless Leader

I heard that line from a “might makes right” fraternity brother back in 1985 or so. We get to lord over things, and once we’re not in charge then we get to play bottom rail and deserve it. Enlightened in an unenlightened way I guess.

Remember Enoch Powell’s famous “River’s of Blood” speech,? He predicted that one day the black man might come to hold the “whip hand” in Europe.

Because God gave us hands to hold whips to keep our slaves in line, I guess…

87 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 5:37:07am

The Fugitive from Justice stole a sponge from the kitchen sink and shredded it under the Dining Room Table.

88 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 5:37:32am

Morning Kitteh!

and How are you this am?

89 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 5:38:08am

re: #74 freetoken

Re-messaging at its most sublime - the difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution.

Really, he’s at it again, Mike Fair, Republican in SC:

Fair: SC should teach the controversy of evolution

MISSING LINKS!!!!!

And then he wonders why people accuse him of wanting to push religion in public schools…

Tosses the evolution buzz words without apparently showing any real understanding of what the theory actually is or how it works.

“…biological change occur gradually and cross lines differentiating phylum” my ass.

90 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 5:38:40am

After the interview of McConnell on Kentucky Sports Radio yesterday, Matt Jones became a little more well known…

91 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 5:40:44am

re: #88 FemNaziBitch

Morning Kitteh!

and How are you this am?

Not to bad given the autumn allergies today.

Been watching the cats this morning - I should start noting down what appear to be the Feline Behavior Protocols for this location. (Understanding that the protocols will vary from location to location and obviously get more complex as the number of Overlords at a location increase.)

93 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 5:44:32am

re: #92 FemNaziBitch

Fracking company teams up with Susan G. Komen, introduces pink drill bits “for the cure”

When I saw that the first thing I did was to check whether or not it was an Onion article.

94 Schadenboner  Oct 9, 2014 5:46:59am

re: #92 FemNaziBitch

Fracking company teams up with Susan G. Komen, introduces pink drill bits “for the cure”

Polluting groundwater to fight cancer!

95 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:48:30am

LOL, Peter LaBarbara is all alone.

96 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 5:53:22am

re: #92 FemNaziBitch

Fracking company teams up with Susan G. Komen, introduces pink drill bits “for the cure”

Holy shit. That’s real?! I thought it was The Onion.

97 Romantic Heretic  Oct 9, 2014 5:53:24am

re: #25 freetoken

The allowing of gay marriage and also non-discrimination ordinances is really, really causing havoc among the fundamentalists.

Apparently Missouri is about to be turned in to the Soviet Union:

The Criminalization of Heartland Christianity

I’ve concluded that fundamentalism is much more about sex than it is about God.

It’s more about power than God.

Perhaps foolish of me, but I posted on that piece of authoritarian drivel.

I do wish that people uncomfortable with sexuality, the very existence of sex, would stop lying about their motives.

It is not ‘rights’ you are talking about, but power. Until recently people such as the writer of this article had the power. They had the power to decide who were and were not people. They had the power to decide how those who were not people could be treated. They had the power to decide whether those who were not people could eat, where they could live, if they could live.

That is no longer the case, and like most people losing their power they are very unhappy with it.

It is a free country and they are allowed to feel that way. Please be honest about your motives though.

98 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 5:54:01am

Peter LaBarbara is now reduced to trolling fellow anti-gay activist Jonathan Saenz, who got active in the cause after his wife left him for another woman.

99 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 5:54:04am

re: #6 klys

There has been some good hockey tonight.

I’m happy to have my sport back.

Morning all.

Yeah, Hockey!

The Columbus Blue Jackets open the new season tonight. Local fans are hoping they can build on their turnaround season last year.

Sad thing though…already have two main players out for a few weeks with injuries and worries that Nathan Horton, who has been injury riddled may not play again due to degenerative back issues.

But unlike the past, the club is deep in new kids that are showing some talents. So, hopefully they have a good season and make the playoffs a bit more comfortably.

100 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:02:36am

re: #83 freetoken

Still think this is the wildest video of a volcano eruption - you see the sonic boom as the volcano erupts, and you’re just waiting until it reaches you. At the same time, you see massive chunks of rock thrown thousands of feet into the air.

Youtube Video

But if you want real anthropomorphism, check out the Penguins: Spy in the Huddle, narrated by David Tennant. It’s amazing visuals of several penguin colonies that were filmed over the span of a couple of months and the narration lays it on thick. It’s being shown on PBS.

101 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:03:56am
One in three women (30%) and one in seven men (14%) report being a victim of domestic violence; one in five women (20%) and one in sixteen men (6%) report being a victim of sexual assault.

60% of Americans, 15 years of age or older, know a victim of domestic violence or sexual assault. Among the 70% of women who have experienced domestic violence and told someone about it, more than half (58%) said that no one helped them.

Three out of four (73%) parents with children under the age of 18 said that they have not had a conversation about violence in the home.

Three quarters of Americans (75%) say they would step in and help if they saw even a stranger being abused, but almost two thirds (64%) of Americans age 15 or older say if we talk more about domestic violence and sexual assault, it would make it easier to help someone.

NOMORE.ORG

102 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:05:50am

103 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 6:06:36am
104 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:07:18am

And again.

An off duty St. Louis cop shot and killed a black man after an altercation.

A police officer fatally shot a teen who opened fire in St. Louis on Wednesday night, officials said. St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said that the officer fired his weapon 17 times after “at least three” shots were fired at him. It was not immediately clear how many times the 18-year-old suspect was hit. The death sparked protests in the Shaw neighborhood in the south of the city. The incident occurred on the eve of demonstrations scheduled to take place in nearby Ferguson, Missouri, over the fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown by police two months ago.

The six-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department was off-duty but in uniform and working a side security job at the time of the shooting. Dotson told reporters at a briefing early Thursday that a group of three men fled after spotting him. The officer gave chase and “physical altercation” occurred between the officer and a suspect, who was described as aged 18 and black. Dotson said the suspect then “fired at least three rounds at the police officer” before he returned fire. The officer was unharmed. Dotson said a 9mm Ruger was recovered at the scene. “An investigation will decide if the officer’s behavior was appropriate,” the police chief added. Angry crowds gathered in the aftermath of the incident and Dotson said several police cars were damaged during the demonstrations. Some people shouted “Hands up, don’t shoot” in reference to the fatal shooting of Brown by a white police officer, which led to weeks of sometimes violent unrest. Officer Darren Wilson has not been charged in Brown’s death. Ferguson is about 16 miles from the scene of the Wednesday’s shooting.

This may be a justified shooting, but one has to wonder just how much sleep this particular officer has if he’s working off duty as a security guard and is working as a cop on duty the rest of the time. How many hours is he putting in working, and how much sleep does he have.

How many other cops are doing similar double duty? Intuitively, it matters, since a lack of sleep can affect judgment and puts both the officers and the public in danger.

Based on what we know of the STL area prosecutor Bob McCullough and the local political leaders, the most likely outcome is that they’ll find this a justified shooting, even if inconsistencies in the police account show that it was anything but justified.

105 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:07:28am

re: #93 Feline Fearless Leader

When I saw that the first thing I did was to check whether or not it was an Onion article.

Truth is Stranger than Fiction.

After the Planned Parenthood debacle of last (?) year, I’ve lost all respect for Komen.

106 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 6:07:41am

re: #102 FemNaziBitch

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Looks to be a total heel as well.

107 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:10:20am

No Poo!
Purely Perfect is just the latest product to take on Big Shampoo.

I had no idea Shampoo was so powerful. I wonder how much they spent on lobbying congress.

:0

108 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:11:01am

re: #106 Feline Fearless Leader

Looks to be a total heel as well.

Way too early in the morning for me.

109 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 6:11:51am
110 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 6:11:51am

Cool, the shadow on the Earth and galaxy “horizon” makes a nice effect…

111 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 6:14:29am
112 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:15:31am
113 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:17:35am

re: #110 ausador

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that’s a fake.

114 darthstar  Oct 9, 2014 6:18:03am
115 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:18:12am

An image that looks too good to be real is probably not real.

116 darthstar  Oct 9, 2014 6:19:19am

re: #113 lawhawk

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that’s a fake.

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Hey…that’s @picpedant’s job.

117 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 6:20:03am

re: #105 FemNaziBitch

After the Planned Parenthood debacle of last (?) year, I’ve lost all respect for Komen.

All the pink shit was cheesy and overdone years before that, though. WTF does buying a pack of AAA batteries or sandwich bags with a pink ribbon on the box have to do with anything?

The Planned Parenthood thing was the last straw.

118 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 6:22:18am

re: #117 Lidane

All the pink shit was cheesy and overdone years before that, though. WTF does buying a pack of AAA batteries or sandwich bags with a pink ribbon on the box have to do with anything?

The Planned Parenthood thing was the last straw.

YOU MUST WEAR THE RIBBON!
Youtube Video

119 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:23:29am
120 makeitstop  Oct 9, 2014 6:23:56am

So, it looks like today’s nail that all the FB Wingnuts are hammering is…the Secret Service prostitute party.

Every one of them. The level of lockstep is amazing - where yesterday there was no controversy, today it is the latest Thing That Could End Obama’s Presidency.

Other than that, it’s a pretty nice day here in NY. Everybody got coffee?

121 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:24:32am

re: #120 makeitstop

So, it looks like today’s nail that all the FB Wingnuts are hammering is…the Secret Service prostitute party.

Every one of them. The level of lockstep is amazing - where yesterday there was no controversy, today it is the latest Thing That Could End Obama’s Presidency.

Other than that, it’s a pretty nice day here in NY. Everybody got coffee?

yup

122 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 6:24:58am

re: #114 darthstar

Pure schadenfreude on my part, but the fact that that happened will never stop being funny to me.

123 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:27:42am

Looks as thought it is going to be a gloomy one today.

124 darthstar  Oct 9, 2014 6:27:58am

re: #122 Frenchy

Pure schadenfreude on my part, but the fact that that happened will never stop being funny to me.

Well, if you think about it, they’re a lot easier to rob than a gun store. Maybe open carry guys should be required to wear a GoPro helmet cam when they are open carrying, so they can video the guys who rob them…would probably cut down the times this happens.

125 KiTA  Oct 9, 2014 6:29:33am

… Did the St. Louis PD really shoot and kill ANOTHER unarmed teenager yesterday?

addictinginfo.org

16 shots, fired into a crowded residential area. By an off duty cop moonlighting as a security officer. Oh, and the Senator was in the area.

And the top comment is a liar claiming that there’s a ballistics report. 6 hours after the incident. When they take at least 72 hours to do. Lovely.

126 Targetpractice  Oct 9, 2014 6:29:44am

re: #119 FemNaziBitch

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“Guys, seriously, I’m still a safe bet! The whole scandal will blow over! I can be your ‘moderate’ unicorn!”

128 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:31:24am

re: #126 Targetpractice

“Guys, seriously, I’m still a safe bet! The whole scandal will blow over! I can be your ‘moderate’ unicorn!”

he’ll have to fight Cory Gardner for that position.

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 6:32:38am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch


Black Teen Pepper-Sprayed By Cops After Entering His White Foster Parents’ Home

Simple proof that segregation was the “good old days”…

130 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:32:39am

25 Times The Employees At Walmart Just Stopped Caring

131 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 6:32:53am

re: #117 Lidane

All the pink shit was cheesy and overdone years before that, though. WTF does buying a pack of AAA batteries or sandwich bags with a pink ribbon on the box have to do with anything?

The Planned Parenthood thing was the last straw.

Another thing that pisses me off is the guilt-tripping people do to you on Facebook and in general society if you don’t support whatever the cause of the day is (I think it was A Mom Anon who also mentioned this previously during the ice-bucket challenge fad).

I constantly want to ask, “Asshole, when are you going to care about a cause that’s important to me? When have you given money to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund or the American Diabetes Association?” (Both me and my older brother have type 1 diabetes.)

132 darthstar  Oct 9, 2014 6:33:04am

re: #120 makeitstop

So, it looks like today’s nail that all the FB Wingnuts are hammering is…the Secret Service prostitute party.

Every one of them. The level of lockstep is amazing - where yesterday there was no controversy, today it is the latest Thing That Could End Obama’s Presidency.

Other than that, it’s a pretty nice day here in NY. Everybody got coffee?

Is this a new party with hookers or the same old one that already went through the news cycles a couple of times?

133 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2014 6:34:03am

So all the hubub about airport screening… Why are they not talking about quick temperature checks getting on the plane instead of off? Weird.

134 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 6:34:26am

re: #132 darthstar

Is this a new party with hookers or the same old one that already went through the news cycles a couple of times?

The same one from ages ago. Because that’s going to end Obama’s presidency in 2014, don’tcha know.

135 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:34:59am
136 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:35:39am

Think the GOP will ever figure out that Obama isn’t running for office in the next election?

137 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 6:37:00am

Some creep threatened a Clarksville high school yesterday on twitter and was quickly discovered and arrested thank goodness.

138 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:37:13am

re: #111 NJDhockeyfan

You do realize that they’ve been cleaning up biohazards for years - with potential exposures to everything from hepatitis to AIDS to communicable diseases like measles and other infections and parasites because people can be disgusting pigs when they board planes (like using the trays for baby changing, using the seat pocket for used diapers, filled vomit bags, etc.)

Every time a new outbreak occurs (remembers MERS and SARS?) the flight staff and cleaning crews have something new to worry about. Ebola is just the latest one - and they’re right. They aren’t getting paid enough to deal with them.

Same with the people in West Africa who are tasked with gathering up the bodies of people who have died of Ebola. Those people are at the highest risk of being infected themselves if they aren’t 100% careful in how they deal with the situation.

139 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 6:37:26am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

I thought they were going to shutdown the government over the Ex-Im Bank, which most people don’t even know or care about. Or immigration reform. Wasn’t that another of their rallying cries for a shutdown?

140 Targetpractice  Oct 9, 2014 6:38:31am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

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Not that they’re saying it won’t happen until after the Election. Nice to see they’re standing up for their ideals, eh?

141 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 6:40:59am

re: #138 lawhawk

Same with the people in West Africa who are tasked with gathering up the bodies of people who have died of Ebola. Those people are at the highest risk of being infected themselves if they aren’t 100% careful in how they deal with the situation.

That is undoubtedly the most dangerous job in the world right now. My hats off to those who are doing that.

142 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 6:42:10am

re: #140 Targetpractice

This is my surprise face.

143 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 6:43:09am

re: #139 Lidane

No, no, no, I believe they are going to IMPEACH over immigration, SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT over Obamacare (yet aGAIN).

144 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 6:43:18am

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

They’re already doing that at the airports in West Africa.

But the problem is that while temp checks is an easy thing to implement, it’s hardly foolproof - whether the person wants to purposefully avoid detection by taking fever meds, or is sick with some other ailment that is completely unrelated to Ebola.

But since it’s easy to implement, that’s what is being done. You’ll end up with a bunch of false positives, and handful of false negatives.

145 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 6:47:24am

re: #143 Frenchy

No, no, no, I believe they are going to IMPEACH over immigration, SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT over Obamacare (yet aGAIN).

Let them impeach Obama. I’d love to see the 2016 GOP primaries turn into a referendum on impeachment.

146 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:47:54am

Bernie Sanders Nails Republican Lies About Voter ID Laws After Release Of GAO Report

Something most liberals have known all along has basically been confirmed in a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The report shows new voter ID laws that have been passed in a number of Republican-controlled states are making it more difficult for Americans to vote. Specifically those Americans who tend to vote for Democrats

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 6:49:17am

re: #139 Lidane

I thought they were going to shutdown the government over the Ex-Im Bank, which most people don’t even know or care about. Or immigration reform. Wasn’t that another of their rallying cries for a shutdown?

It’s too late since Obama has already destroyed America 50-some times.
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Implies that he must be a really poor tyrant.
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148 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:53:52am
149 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 6:56:05am

Nope.

150 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 6:57:03am

re: #131 Timothy Watson

Frankly, I am glad the ice bucket challenge has burned out as a “thing.”

151 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:58:03am

152 Targetpractice  Oct 9, 2014 6:58:29am

re: #149 NJDhockeyfan

Nope.

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Thanks, but I think I’ll stick with cooking my own burgers at home. For that price, I could build a decent gaming computer.

153 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 6:59:40am

154 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 6:59:59am

re: #151 FemNaziBitch

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Good one. Though here at work we also keep an emergency supply of chocolate-covered expresso beans on hand in case there is need for an immediate caffeine and sugar hit.

155 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:00:03am

lol, good job Walmart bakery…

Congration you done it? Wut?

156 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:01:11am

157 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 7:01:33am

re: #155 ausador

Should be priced half-off. And bought for an English teacher as a joke surprise.

158 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 7:02:09am

re: #157 wheat-dogghazi

Should be priced half-off. And bought for an English teacher as a joke surprise.

Or served at “Everyone gets a trophy” day events.

159 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:04:37am

Posting Every Day Until the Election -Please share

160 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:07:53am

SEE IT: NYPD cop allegedly took more than $1K in cash from Brooklyn construction worker’s pocket during stop-and-frisk

“One of the most disturbing things about the video is the other cops standing around watching and doing nothing to stop the wrongdoing,” lawyer Robert Marinelli said Wednesday.

Marinelli represents the siblings who were pepper-sprayed — Lamard Joye, who claims the cop took $1,300 from his pocket, money that has still not been accounted for, and his sister Lateefah Joye, a professional basketball player in Europe, who tried to get the cop’s badge number.

161 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:10:13am

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 7:15:38am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

Immoral and illegal are not synonyms

In Santorum/Fischer’s thinking, we are required to pass and enforce laws that reflect (their interpretation of) God’s Divine Will.

If we fail, then He will Smite us with His Divine Wrath, and they will remind us that we had it coming.

165 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 7:16:15am
166 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:17:01am
Did you know that October 9th is “National Hug A Good Dad Day”? No? Well, I don’t blame you since I just made it up. However, it’s going to be a yearly thing starting now.

Do you know a kick-ass dad who deserves a hug? It could be your husband, dad, son, uncle, grandfather, best friend, co-worker, neighbor, etc. If you follow me on Twitter (and you should. My handle is @daddydoinwork), tweet his name to me with the hashtag ‪#‎HugAGoodDadDay‬. It would be awesome to have it trend across the country. Or, if you’re not on Twitter you can just tag him here in this thread and share this post with your people on Facebook.

And yes, I know *everyday* is hug a good dad day - but I’m all about starting new traditions around here. GO!

from my facebook from this guy

167 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:17:59am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In Santorum/Fischer’s thinking, we are required to pass and enforce laws that reflect (their interpretation of) God’s Divine Will.

If we fail, then He will Smite us with His Divine Wrath, and they will remind us that we had it coming.

Thus, I made the graphic a while back.

I swear, people really do not understand the different forms of government. Some do think Theocracy is what they want.

168 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:19:56am

I’m Hazel.

169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 7:19:59am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

Thus, I made the graphic a while back.

I swear, people really do not understand the different forms of government. Some do think Theocracy is what they want.

Nor do they understand the difference between private morals and legislation, or the concept that “the Pursuit of Happiness” means you are free to do whatever does not infringe on the rights of others.

171 FemNaziBitch  Oct 9, 2014 7:20:36am

bbl

172 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 7:22:46am

Derp from Hoft:

He’s making the latest claims that the Enterovirus D68 outbreak on illegal aliens, based on Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting:

Enteroviruses commonly circulate in the U.S. during summer and fall. EV-D68 was first identified in California in 1962. Over the past thirty years, only small numbers were reported in the U.S.

The CDC hasn’t suggested reasons for the current uptick or its origin. Without that answer, some question whether the disease is being spread by the presence of tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children from Central America admitted to the U.S. in the past year.

The origin could be entirely unrelated.

However, a study published in Virology Journal, found EV-D68 among some of the 3,375 young, ill people tested in eight Latin American countries, including the Central American nations of El Salvador and Nicaragua, in 2013. (See Fig. 3)

Though the U.S. government is keeping secret the locations of the illegal immigrant children, there are significant numbers of them in both cities in which the current outbreak was first identified, Kansas City, Missouri and Chicago, Illinois, according to local advocates and press reports.

Let me again state “THE ORIGIN COULD BE ENTIRELY UNRELATED.

Let’s also note the history of the current outbreak. It began in Colorado before spreading across the country.

The disease itself was first identified in the US. In 1962. Drudge has been screaming about this for weeks now (as we posted on LGF a few weeks back).

173 Dr. Matt  Oct 9, 2014 7:27:09am

re: #172 lawhawk

Dim Jim includes the quote, “The origin could be entirely unrelated”, yet he publishes a completely sensational headline. Another complete and utter derpness from “Mr. Accuracy in Media”.

edit: It appears I am banned from commenting on his website. Coward. Where are the LGF stalkers to complain about Freedumb!?!?!

174 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 7:27:22am

re: #172 lawhawk

A disease has suddenly appeared amongst us! We don’t understand where it came from! Round up all the {insert class of people we don’t like}.

Party like it’s 1346!

175 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 7:30:09am
176 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 7:31:31am

177 Dr. Matt  Oct 9, 2014 7:34:09am

re: #176 Lidane

Ah, so those NFLers that murder humans and dogs, and beat their children and their wives are conservatives?! Gotcha. Run with it.

178 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 7:37:18am

Quoting Dim Jim here:

Though the U.S. government is keeping secret the locations of the illegal immigrant children, there are significant numbers of them in both cities in which the current outbreak was first identified, Kansas City, Missouri and Chicago, Illinois, according to local advocates and press reports.

He’s once again pulling the “secret locations” shit to suggest this is all part of some government cover-up. The much simpler reason is they are children, and standard policy is to keep their records confidential.

“Significant numbers” is also bullshit, because 60,000 kids spread over the 48 contiguous states are not going to total “significant numbers” in each city. There might be a few hundred in a city like Chicago.

All these kids have had physical and medical checkups before being sent to their relatives or foster homes.

And, if Dim Jim bothered to do a little work, he could find news articles about school districts coping with these new immigrants, from which he could extrapolate their approximate locations. I did a page on school districts coping with undocumented minor immigrants just several days ago. They were all over the place — Delaware, Connecticut, California — and busting their asses to learn English and become useful citizens.

179 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 7:38:30am
180 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 7:39:44am

re:
#176

Former NFL tight end Clint Didier, who is now a Republican candidate for Congress in Washington state, spoke last month with Mama Grizzly Radio’s Kevin Scholla, who asked him why, in his experience, “athletes and those in sports” tend to be conservative.

Wait, Mama Grizzly Radio is a thing?

181 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 7:39:57am

re: #179 NJDhockeyfan

Atomic Watchdog should be added to the potential band name list.

182 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 7:42:06am

re: #176 Lidane

NFL player turned GOP politician says athletes are conservative because liberals hate competition

Translated: Idiot ex-Jock Relies on Sterotypes to Belittle People He Does Not Agree With

183 Frenchy  Oct 9, 2014 7:43:30am

re: #180 Bulworth

If asked the same question I might’ve answered “Uhh, because on average they tend to be less intelligent?”

184 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 7:43:40am
185 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 7:45:58am

Furthermore, Dim Jim fails to note the Results section of the abstract for that journal article, which says:

Our subjects had a median age of 3 years and a 1.2:1.0 male:female ratio. HRV was identified in 16% and HEV was identified in 3%. HRVs accounted for a higher frequency of isolates in those of younger age, in particular children <𠂑 years old. HRV-C accounted for 38% of all HRVs detected. Phylogenetic analysis revealed a high proportion of recombinant strains between HRV-A/HRV-C and between HEV-A/HEV-B. In addition, both EV-D68 and EV-A71 were identified. Emphasis added

virologyj.com
In other words, the kids in this study are mostly pre-school age, and are not likely to be jumping up on freight cars to sneak into the USA. They are still resident in their home countries, and they were already presenting symptoms of being ill at the time of the study.

The sample included subjects aged 1-25 years from several Central and South American countries, all to way down to Argentina.

Text of paper:

186 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 7:47:14am

And not surprisingly, Wonkette’s contributor also goes off on SMOTI.

187 Stanley Sea  Oct 9, 2014 7:55:23am
188 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 7:57:02am
189 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 8:01:24am


REUTERS — Kim Jong-un emerges from seclusion in new music/dance video, a blatant ripoff of Gangnam Style. Due to embargoes, sunglasses were not available for the shoot.

190 Dr. Matt  Oct 9, 2014 8:01:31am

re: #187 Stanley Sea

@jblack501c3 @stltoday In each of the recent cases, the cops started something, then “felt threatened,” and shoot, claiming reasonableness.
— BetsyD (@betsdavenport) October 9, 2014

Pretty much the reason why Stand Your Ground laws are so flawed.

191 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 8:02:21am

Might as well try to spread some rational thought…

192 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 8:02:41am

re: #187 Stanley Sea

Things that might tend to support the cop’s actions - (1) finding a weapon; (2) Finding that the weapon was fired; (3) Finding bullet fragments or shell casings at the scene; or (4) finding GSR on the victim indicating he had fired a weapon.

So far, it’s too early to know whether 2, 3, or 4 happened. We only know that the police claim to have recovered a weapon at the scene.

It could be a justified shooting, even though the cop was off duty and working as a security guard. But there has to be serious examination into the officer’s actions here and not just a superficial justification for a justified shooting. How much sleep had the officer had? Was he under the influence of medications? How often was he moonlighting as a security guard?

Then there are the physical questions relating to what was the group of men doing that caused suspicion.

There are a lot of unknowns about the case but I have little faith that the STL County Prosecutor will bother looking beyond - “it’s justified, so I’ll allow it”.

193 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 8:03:36am

CDC map showing which states have confirmed cases of enterovirus D68:

It’s everywhere!! (Almost)

cdc.gov

As a longtime teacher (and parent), I will note that it’s October and kids have been in school since August in most states. This is about the time flu bugs, colds and whatnot go around schools. It’s irresponsible, almost criminal, to suggest that immigrant kids are the vectors for the disease.

194 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 8:04:04am

If anybody is interested the study by Wayne Hall on marijuana use touted by several news outlets claiming it’s a 20 year study showing weed is bad for you, isn’t a study. It’s a meta-study. A review of studies. He didn’t actually do any work himself, and it didn’t take him 20 years as implied in the articles, he just reviewed 20 years worth of previous studies and other meta-studies.

It may be that the conclusions he drew are accurate but since many of the studies he used are short term studies themselves, I’d take what this review says with a grain of salt.

What it does show is that a long term longitudinal study needs to be done.

195 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 8:04:36am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

edit: It appears I am banned from commenting on his website. Coward. Where are the LGF stalkers to complain about Freedumb!?!?!

Welcome to our rather exclusive club, you, me, and Eric that I know of.

196 Romantic Heretic  Oct 9, 2014 8:06:50am

re: #138 lawhawk

Now remembering the short time I worked as a janitor.

The place I worked in was a sprawling former distillery, now a high end retail/cultural centre. The security was a bit lax and there were a number of isolated areas including a couple of washrooms. Because homeless people are quite diligent about finding places to do things we take for granted one of those washrooms was used frequently by them. They were not nearly as diligent as about cleaning up after themselves.

By the time I was given orders to clean it that washroom hadn’t been cleaned in at least two years. We’re talking cesspool levels of human waste. So a small washroom took two hours to clean.

I am amazed to this day I didn’t catch something horrible. Showered and laundered clothes the instant I got home.

The next day I was told I couldn’t eat lunch in any of the places the public could see me. The unspoken reason was the help can’t mingle with their betters.

Left shortly thereafter before I became a headline.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 8:07:00am

re: #187 Stanley Sea

When the police start citing the SYG particulars as the reason for shooting people I really start to get worried. I expect soon they will feel threatened when asked to help get a cat out of a tree.
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198 A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2014 8:08:25am

re: #117 Lidane

There’s a book called Pink, Inc about the scammy part of these “charities”. I catch such hell from people over this, it’s like I go around kicking puppies or something. And it’s not just Komen that works my last nerve either. Autism Speaks is another one that needs to knock off their shit.

I told my husband, if in the horrifying event I get breast cancer, if anyone comes at me with something pink I am hurting them. I don’t want to see it in the hospital, at home, NOWHERE. Don’t walk for me or donate in my name. HELP ME AND MY FAMILY. That’s how you can help.

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 8:09:23am

re: #197 Feline Fearless Leader

When the police start citing the SYG particulars as the reason for shooting people I really start to get worried. I expect soon they will feel threatened when asked to help get a cat out of a tree.
//

Those claws seemed threatening so I emptied my clip into it!

200 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 8:09:30am

re: #189 De Kolta Chair

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REUTERS — Kim Jong-un emerges from seclusion in new music/dance video, a blatant ripoff of Gangnam Style.

With his weight problem and fragile ankles, Baby Kim is not going to do much dancing anytime soon.

Maybe Dance with the Stars should invite petty dictators to appear on the show. At least SNL could do a skit.

201 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 8:09:43am

re: #196 Romantic Heretic

Now remembering the short time I worked as a janitor.

The place I worked in was a sprawling former distillery, now a high end retail/cultural centre. The security was a bit lax and there were a number of isolated areas including a couple of washrooms. Because homeless people are quite diligent about finding places to do things we take for granted one of those washrooms was used frequently by them. They were not nearly as diligent as about cleaning up after themselves.

By the time I was given orders to clean it that washroom hadn’t been cleaned in at least two years. We’re talking cesspool levels of human waste. So a small washroom took two hours to clean.

I am amazed to this day I didn’t catch something horrible. Showered and laundered clothes the instant I got home.

The next day I was told I couldn’t eat lunch in any of the places the public could see me. The unspoken reason was the help can’t mingle with their betters.

Left shortly thereafter before I became a headline.

Ah, you became an Untouchable.

202 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2014 8:10:41am

Well now this is pretty ugly if true-Imagine SWAT hauling you off to a mental ward for a 72 hour hold over threats you never made? It’s dangerous to work against Ferguson officials.

PINAC Crew Member Charlie Grapski Hospitalized Against Will on False Accusations he Made Threats on Twitter

soundcloud.com

But as soon as he arrived, he was informed that his permission to travel out of the state was being revoked because he had been tweeting that he was flying to Ferguson to commit acts of violence, which is a complete lie. I see all his tweets on Facebook and that surely would have drawn my attention as well as the attention of his followers.

“When I asked her to show me the threats, she wouldn’t,” he said.

He said he left the office angry and sat in a car with his father outside the building to call his lawyer when a SWAT team arrived and arrested him, transporting him to the mental health facility under the Baker Act, which is a state law that allows up to 72 hours detainment of citizens if they show signs of mental illness along with signs they are a threat to themselves or others.

You can read through his Twitter feed here. There are no threats. Just assurances that he will do all he can to hold Ferguson officials accountable for their actions, which, of course, is the reason why he has been on probation since 2009 as he explains in detail in a prior article.

203 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 9, 2014 8:13:42am
204 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 8:15:11am

re: #198 A Mom Anon

When one of my aunts was diagnosed with breast cancer the only thing I gave her that was even remotely pink was one of those cheesy Chicken Soup for the Soul books that had stories from breast cancer survivors. I felt stupid giving it to her at the time since it felt inadequate, but one of my cousins told me later it helped when she was in the hospital.

If I ever end up being diagnosed with something like that I’d rather have people help out in other ways, like taking the cats to the vet or taking me to and from a doctor’s appointment if I need it or whatever. A bunch of pink shit (or whatever other ribbon color might apply) is useless.

205 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 8:15:53am

I threatened to do this yesterday…and after letting it cook overnight I came up with this internet political service announcement.

SHUT UPChuck…you are a danger to everyone and yourself!

Click for larger image

206 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 8:16:59am

re: #205 ObserverArt

Internet, not Interent.

—Your local copy editor

207 Romantic Heretic  Oct 9, 2014 8:17:14am

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

Ah, you became an Untouchable.

That’s a good way of putting it.

208 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 8:18:18am
209 A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2014 8:20:08am

re: #204 Lidane

Bingo. What also works my very short list of nerves is crap like “Free the Tatas Day” or go without a bra. Um, no, I’m an old lady, just no. An acquaintance of ours is a survivor, and I am SO thrilled she made it because of early diagnosis, but the ride they do every year to raise money for her family’s ongoing medical bills bugs the fuck out of me. It’s full of silicone implanted models from Hooters and some local strip club and their page is full of those women draped all over everyone’s husbands. Just stop it already. I’m not a prude, but FFS most of the women on this earth who end up with breast cancer don’t look like that, and can we not go anywhere without sexualizing every damned thing?

210 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 8:20:11am

re: #198 A Mom Anon

There’s a book called Pink, Inc about the scammy part of these “charities”. I catch such hell from people over this, it’s like I go around kicking puppies or something. And it’s not just Komen that works my last nerve either. Autism Speaks is another one that needs to knock off their shit.

I told my husband, if in the horrifying event I get breast cancer, if anyone comes at me with something pink I am hurting them. I don’t want to see it in the hospital, at home, NOWHERE. Don’t walk for me or donate in my name. HELP ME AND MY FAMILY. That’s how you can help.

Fund-raising, especially large amounts, is essentially a specialization for a number of companies. And a profitable one at that.

The fraternity I belong to looked at using a professional firm to help with a capital campaign in order to raise money for some projects and also help build up a better endowment fund. The consulting fee with this company was going to be roughly 30% of the planned goal whether or not we actually succeeded in raising the money - and that was with our local volunteers pretty much doing all the leg work and activities beyond initial planning work.

They were cut loose very early on when they did some phone solicitation work and essentially pissed off a chunk of the initial potential donor list, who loudly complained back to the chairman of the campaign. (Their script for the solicitation came across as very boilerplate, pressed the wrong buttons, and many viewed it as essentially insulting in some way.)

This delayed things for a few years due to the false start (and having to shell out a decent amount of money to get rid of the consultants.) Funds were eventually raised, but via a much longer campaign* that was mainly handled internally and applied lessons learned from the initial attempt.

* - An economic recession in the first year put a bit of a damper on contributions.

211 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 8:25:57am
212 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 8:26:52am

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi

Internet, not Interent.

—Your local copy editor

Fixed!

213 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 8:31:16am

Manly manliness on display, yo—

214 Dr. Matt  Oct 9, 2014 8:31:58am

re: #213 Lidane

Manly manliness on display, yo—

I can’t stand Bob Beckel. He’s such an assclown.

215 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 8:33:46am

re: #208 Lidane

[Thank You, ISIS , by David Horowitz, National Review
Beheadings of innocent human beings are unspeakable acts reflecting the barbaric savagery of the Islamic “holy war” against the West — against us. Yet despite the intentions of their perpetrators,…]

Is this the site that Dark_Falcon quotes from time to time?

These people are despicable. I fail to see how anyone in their right mind could take such a position with good conscience.

This country has grown sick. If this is a modern conservative, then the whole lot of them need to be beaten down by the sane and decent folks.

Grrrrr!

216 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 9, 2014 8:33:59am

I posted this comment at Sharyl Atkisson’s website. I wonder if it will survive moderation.

If you read the Virology Journal paper all the way through, the subjects had a median age of 3, and ranged in age from 1 to 25. They were all symptomatic at the time of the study, and RESIDENT in their respective countries. I somehow doubt sick 3 year olds are hopping freight cars to enter the USA. Further, some of those subjects came from as far south as Argentina. The purpose of the study was not to locate the origin of enterovirus D68, and using the paper to suggest the virus came from Central or South America is irresponsible and illogical, since the paper says nothing of the sort.

Enterovirus D68 was first detected in 1962 in the United States, according to the CDC.

All of the undocumented minors coming from Central America undergo physical and medical checks before they are sent to their relatives or foster homes. If they present any symptoms of illness, they are kept in ICE facilities until they are well. So, again, you’re making allegations with no evidence — finding a convenient scapegoat.

I took a screenshot, just to show that I made the effort.

217 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 8:35:03am

re: #211 Lidane

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Well I am glad he’s honest at least.

218 BlueSpotinAL  Oct 9, 2014 8:37:06am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Pretty much the reason why Stand Your Ground laws are so flawed.

I think Elvis felt threatened by his TV.

219 danarchy  Oct 9, 2014 8:38:31am

re: #197 Feline Fearless Leader

When the police start citing the SYG particulars as the reason for shooting people I really start to get worried. I expect soon they will feel threatened when asked to help get a cat out of a tree.
//

OT - but I never really understood the whole getting a cat out of a tree thing. Aren’t they perfectly capable of coming down on their own?

220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 8:42:25am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Pretty much the reason why Stand Your Ground laws are so flawed.

They are also designed so that if you leave no living witness, there is nobody to dispute your testimony.

The other aspect of them is that if you plead SYG, you cannot be arrested or charged for a crime, which means that there is often a lack of forensic evidence.

221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 8:43:05am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi

With his weight problem and fragile ankles, Baby Kim is not going to do much dancing anytime soon.

Maybe Dance with the Stars should invite petty dictators to appear on the show. At least SNL could do a skit.

With all those generals in the photo “Dancing With the Stars” would be fitting…

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 8:43:51am

re: #219 danarchy

OT - but I never really understood the whole getting a cat out of a tree thing. Aren’t they perfectly capable of coming down on their own?

I sure hope so.
This is the center support post in the house we are building.
The post is a 24-foot white pine. We planted the seedling pine 20 years ago.
It’s all part of designing the house with cats in mind.

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 8:45:44am

re: #219 danarchy

OT - but I never really understood the whole getting a cat out of a tree thing. Aren’t they perfectly capable of coming down on their own?

It is generally done to assuage the distressed owner.

224 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 9, 2014 8:46:17am

re: #219 danarchy

OT - but I never really understood the whole getting a cat out of a tree thing. Aren’t they perfectly capable of coming down on their own?

Not always. We had a declawed cat who somehow ran up a tree to get away from a dog, and then couldn’t for the life of her figure out how to get down again.

225 Dr. Matt  Oct 9, 2014 8:50:19am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope so.
This is the center support post in the house we are building.
The post is a 24-foot white pine. We planted the seedling pine 20 years ago.
It’s all part of designing the house with cats in mind.

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Whoa. That’s cool. Will that be load bearing?

226 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 8:51:44am

re: #208 Lidane

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Looks like that tweet hit a nerve. I retweeted my own version of it and encountered this freak who—judging by the huge number of people he’s tweeted the same thing at—appears to be desperately trying to defend Horowitz/NRO:

227 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 8:51:59am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope so.
This is the center support post in the house we are building.
The post is a 24-foot white pine. We planted the seedling pine 20 years ago.
It’s all part of designing the house with cats in mind.

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If you kill the tree, won’t the roots start rotting?

228 danarchy  Oct 9, 2014 8:54:37am

re: #227 Editor in Chief

If you kill the tree, won’t the roots start rotting?

I am assuming it was cut down before being used as a post?

229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 8:57:56am

The War on Christianity continues apace, this time in pagan Canada

Canada: Christian claims to be victim of ‘viking discrimination’

230 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:01:11am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Whoa. That’s cool. Will that be load bearing?

I think so. There’s a metal tophat that we fabricated for it where ends of the roof beams (red oak) will rest. There are several metal load-bearing posts as well.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:01:49am

re: #227 Editor in Chief

If you kill the tree, won’t the roots start rotting?

It was cut down.

232 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 9:03:03am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Whoa. That’s cool. Will that be load bearing?

Seconded—very cool.

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:03:08am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was cut down.

ETA: the first floor and most of the second floor of the house are underground. The house will have turf roofs, except for the skylight turret in the center, where that white pine post is installed.

234 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 9:04:43am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was cut down.

Poor tree.

I hope it was a quick and painless death.

236 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 9:05:27am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

ETA: the first floor and most of the second floor of the house are underground. The house will have turf roofs, except for the skylight turret in the center, where that white pine post is installed.

Hobbit house.

I so wanted to build one in the ’70s & ’80s.

237 calochortus  Oct 9, 2014 9:06:27am

re: #196 Romantic Heretic

Now remembering the short time I worked as a janitor.

The place I worked in was a sprawling former distillery, now a high end retail/cultural centre. The security was a bit lax and there were a number of isolated areas including a couple of washrooms. Because homeless people are quite diligent about finding places to do things we take for granted one of those washrooms was used frequently by them. They were not nearly as diligent as about cleaning up after themselves.

By the time I was given orders to clean it that washroom hadn’t been cleaned in at least two years. We’re talking cesspool levels of human waste. So a small washroom took two hours to clean.

I am amazed to this day I didn’t catch something horrible. Showered and laundered clothes the instant I got home.

The next day I was told I couldn’t eat lunch in any of the places the public could see me. The unspoken reason was the help can’t mingle with their betters.

Left shortly thereafter before I became a headline.

I’d like to give you a pat on the back for having been a janitor. It is my personal philosophy that we should be grateful for people who do stuff we don’t want to do. That means a living wage and being treated like the human beings that they are.
Given a choice between a world without ,say, garbage collectors and one without brain surgeons, guess which will provide the better life for the greater number of people.

238 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:09:40am

re: #234 Editor in Chief

Poor tree.

I hope it was a quick and painless death.

It was very quick.
There are another few dozen still standing.

Here’s a view of the house from above.

239 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 9:10:31am

These sliders and popups web sites are all starting to use really are annoying. It’s becoming impossible to actually view the information on the site.

240 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:11:33am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

ETA: the first floor and most of the second floor of the house are underground. The house will have turf roofs, except for the skylight turret in the center, where that white pine post is installed.

So you’re building a large cat bunker. Neat!

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:14:16am

re: #90 nsmith25

After the interview of McConnell on Kentucky Sports Radio yesterday, Matt Jones became a little more well known…

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242 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:14:44am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The War on Christianity continues apace, this time in pagan Canada

Canada: Christian claims to be victim of ‘viking discrimination’

Article sounds to me like both sides being discriminatory jerks over minor things. And I thought “viking” was a job, not a cultural or ethical point.

Maybe the poor woman needs to go raid a few villages and burn down a monastery or two - and then reapply.
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243 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 9:18:01am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was very quick.
There are another few dozen still standing.

Here’s a view of the house from above.

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I am so jealous.

244 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 9:18:47am

re: #242 Feline Fearless Leader

Article sounds to me like both sides being discriminatory jerks over minor things. And I thought “viking” was a job, not a cultural or ethical point.

Maybe the poor woman needs to go raid a few villages and burn down a monastery or two - and then reapply.
//

“Persecuted Christians” makes good copy, so expect this story to have legs…

245 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 9:25:07am

I’m starting to think most web designers should not have been given HTML5 & CSS3. They’ve become like little kids with a new set of crayons drawing pictures on everything including places that shouldn’t be drawn on.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:29:11am
247 calochortus  Oct 9, 2014 9:31:18am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And high time.

248 LadyBehir  Oct 9, 2014 9:31:43am

Regarding the pink stink, why should I buy something pink so a charity can get some small fraction of my money and the manufacturer gets the tax write off? I also do not give to the kids with cans outside the big box stores. Only ones like that I do donate to is the Penn State Thon kids - the money goes to the 4 Diamond Fund at Milton Hershey for pediatric cancer patients. I know that charity works because it helped save my son. But buy pink? Oh heck no. And my mom survived breast cancer.

249 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 9:31:52am

While the shooting in St. Louis of a black man by an off duty cop raises many questions, across the state in Kansas City, police are dealing with yet another officer-involved shooting.

Kansas City police say a man is dead after threatening a police officer with what looked like a sword and being shot by a different officer.

Police spokeswoman Sgt. Kari Thompson says officers responded to a home in northern Kansas City on Wednesday night shortly before midnight and found a man outside the rear of the residence.

Thompson says the man immediately became confrontational with officers and ignored their demands. She says the officers saw him in possession of a sword-like object, and one of the officers shot him after he threatened another with it.

The man died at the scene.

This one doesn’t have much coverage, but it appears that no attempts were made to arrest him with less than lethal means.

250 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 9:32:05am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I would be honored to be on the turtle’s hate list.

251 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 9:33:31am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

I would be honored to be on the turtle’s hate list.

if you’re a democrat or don’t vote for conservatives/republicans then I believe you are on the turtle’s hate list by default.

252 b.d.  Oct 9, 2014 9:33:50am

And so far today the Dow is down 300 points, I should have invested in Dramamine.

253 klys  Oct 9, 2014 9:33:56am

re: #248 LadyBehir

If I want to donate, I’ll do it when my grandmother participates in one of the Walk For Life events as a 20+ year survivor.

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:35:42am

re: #249 lawhawk

While the shooting in St. Louis of a black man by an off duty cop raises many questions, across the state in Kansas City, police are dealing with yet another officer-involved shooting.

This one doesn’t have much coverage, but it appears that no attempts were made to arrest him with less than lethal means.

“Sword-like object”? O_o

Like, say, a stick?

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 9:35:48am

re: #251 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

if you’re a democrat or don’t vote for conservatives/republicans then I believe you are on the turtle’s hate list by default.

Sadly, I think most Kentuckians are on that hate list by default.

256 Stanley Sea  Oct 9, 2014 9:36:38am

re: #254 Feline Fearless Leader

“Sword-like object”? O_o

Like, say, a stick?

Maybe a yardstick?

257 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 9:39:41am

I swear cops these days took this course

Youtube Video

258 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:41:12am

re: #256 Stanley Sea

Maybe a yardstick?

Could be. Me getting out the yardstick draws an immediate reaction from the cats.

They like fighting/biting at it. And it’s also used to fish cat toys out from under the china cabinet and side board.

259 calochortus  Oct 9, 2014 9:44:05am

re: #252 b.d.

And so far today the Dow is down 300 points, I should have invested in Dramamine.

I shouldn’t watch the markets right now-I’m very susceptible to motion sickness. Even Dramamine won’t help with that sort of roller coaster.

260 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:46:16am

re: #253 klys

If I want to donate, I’ll do it when my grandmother participates in one of the Walk For Life events as a 20+ year survivor.

All my donations are personal to local charities with the exception of donating to Penn State students collecting for Thon and a monthly United Way donation straight from my paycheck (which is partially matched by my employer.)

261 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 9:46:32am

morning fellow clickbaits

262 danarchy  Oct 9, 2014 9:46:42am

re: #256 Stanley Sea

Maybe a yardstick?

They were responding to a call and the guy was in the rear of the residence, maybe a pry bar?

263 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 9:47:49am
264 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 9:48:59am

re: #262 danarchy

They were responding to a call and the guy was in the rear of the residence, maybe a pry bar?

some people arent comfortable drinking with prys

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 9:52:27am

re: #264 dog philosopher

some people arent comfortable drinking with prys

I guess a rave in a crow bar might cause a bit of a stir.
//

266 Dr Lizardo  Oct 9, 2014 9:53:54am

re: #263 Lidane

Mat Staver likens efforts to stop gay marriage to the fight against slavery bit.ly

Historical analogies.

You’re doing it wrong.

*headdesk*

267 Ace-o-aces  Oct 9, 2014 9:54:53am

re: #208 Lidane

268 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 9:55:40am

re: #109 NJDhockeyfan

I have to wonder if ABC would even have reported on this strike if there wasn’t an ebola angle.

269 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 9:56:08am

It’s the GOParty like it’s 1959:

270 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 9:57:38am

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

The workers at LGA have been fighting for higher wages for a while, and the Port Authority was supposed to work to implement higher wages across the airports they operate. Now, with the health hazards, it’s making news again.

271 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 9:58:08am

re: #269 lawhawk

It’s the GOParty like it’s 1959:

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Rebranding!

272 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 9:59:30am

re: #265 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess a rave in a crow bar might cause a bit of a stir.
//

Oh, my aching side bars.

273 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 10:01:39am

re: #245 Editor in Chief

I’m starting to think most web designers should not have been given HTML5 & CSS3. They’ve become like little kids with a new set of crayons drawing pictures on everything including places that shouldn’t be drawn on.

I don’t think it is that. I think it is all the linking to all the damn ad services that bog sites down.

I know people have to make money, it is how all this works. But before all the ad service linking, sites were more or less responsible for placing their own ads. Those ads reside on the same server as the site so they load quickly.

With the ad services, all the ads are coming in from outside servers and that takes more time. If the ‘net is slow…you are screwed.

Just watch the little boxes at the bottom of a page when you open a site. You can see what you are waiting to happen before the page actually loads.

It would be great if a site would load all the page content first so you could at least read the text maybe see some of the images and the ads load as they come in.

Also, if a page has a bunch of small videos in the ads, then you also have to wait for them to stream in and work with Flash Player. We all know the issues with Flash Player. It really seems like if you even tough a page before it is all loaded, Flash crashes and brings the entire browser to a halt.

I’ve been using two browsers at once…Chrome and Firefox usually. I open the one site I am really interested in (like LGF!!!) and any links that I want to check out I copy the site link and then open up Firefox, paste in the link and then go back to Chrome while the next site opens. If a link is bad and crashes, I at least don’t have to close the browser that I am mainly using.

It can stop the aggravation.

274 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 10:02:44am

re: #248 LadyBehir

Regarding the pink stink, why should I buy something pink so a charity can get some small fraction of my money and the manufacturer gets the tax write off? I also do not give to the kids with cans outside the big box stores. Only ones like that I do donate to is the Penn State Thon kids - the money goes to the 4 Diamond Fund at Milton Hershey for pediatric cancer patients. I know that charity works because it helped save my son. But buy pink? Oh heck no. And my mom survived breast cancer.

I’m seriously picky about that stuff, too. I find it so annoying to go into a grocery store where there’s a display trying to guilt people into buying a bag of groceries to donate to the food bank. Why would I pay the grocers profit when I can donate the same amount of money directly to the food bank so they can buy about 5 times as much food with it?

About the only charity product I buy is Girl Scout cookies cuz Thin Mints rock.

275 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 10:03:01am

re: #270 lawhawk

Now, with the health hazards, it’s making news again.

That’s good to know. The NYC press usually ignores or sorely under-reports union activities, unless it’s an indictment or conviction of a corrupt union official.

276 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 10:05:41am

re: #245 Editor in Chief

I’m starting to think most web designers should not have been given HTML5 & CSS3. They’ve become like little kids with a new set of crayons drawing pictures on everything including places that shouldn’t be drawn on.

I have to agree with OA. It’s not usually the designers or front-end coders who insist on that crap, it’s the clients and/or their sales & marketing departments.

277 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 10:06:24am

re: #245 Editor in Chief

a lot of places with job openings are looking for people with HTML5 and CSS3. I haven’t touched either since HTML4 and CSS2. From what I am seeing it sounds like they’ve become more than just markup/styling languages.

278 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 10:07:59am

re: #273 ObserverArt

I don’t think it is that. I think it is all the linking to all the damn ad services that bog sites down.

I know people have to make money, it is how all this works. But before all the ad service linking, sites were more or less responsible for placing their own ads. Those ads reside on the same server as the site so they load quickly.

With the ad services, all the ads are coming in from outside servers and that takes more time. If the ‘net is slow…you are screwed.

Just watch the little boxes at the bottom of a page when you open a site. You can see what you are waiting to happen before the page actually loads.

It would be great if a site would load all the page content first so you could at least read the text maybe see some of the images and the ads load as they come in.

Also, if a page has a bunch of small videos in the ads, then you also have to wait for them to stream in and work with Flash Player. We all know the issues with Flash Player. It really seems like if you even tough a page before it is all loaded, Flash crashes and brings the entire browser to a halt.

I’ve been using two browsers at once…Chrome and Firefox usually. I open the one site I am really interested in (like LGF!!!) and any links that I want to check out I copy the site link and then open up Firefox, paste in the link and then go back to Chrome while the next site opens. If a link is bad and crashes, I at least don’t have to close the browser that I am mainly using.

It can stop the aggravation.

I’m talking about the sliders from the sides, top and bottom & the pseudo- popups.

279 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 10:08:28am

re: #276 CuriousLurker

One of the places I worked at the marketing guy insisted on popup windows. I was the webmaster/developer and told him in front of everyone at a web committee meeting that it was a bad idea and explained why. The rest of the committee members agreed with me.

It was bad enough that his idea to design the site based off what the Mercedes Benz site looked like at the time (lots of black and dark backgrounds) but pop-ups were the final straw.

280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 10:08:49am

re: #278 Editor in Chief

I’m talking about the sliders from the sides, top and bottom & the pseudo- popups.

I hate the sliders etc too.

281 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 10:09:27am

re: #175 NJDhockeyfan

In the seventies, our bar band played biker parties in the hills outside of Apache Junction. Hilarity and hi-jinks usually ensued, little of which I can recall.

282 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 10:10:03am

re: #280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I hate the sliders etc too.

Me three.

283 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 10:11:15am

re: #276 CuriousLurker

I have to agree with OA. It’s not usually the designers or front-end coders who insist on that crap, it’s the clients and/or their sales & marketing departments.

Yah, pass the buck….

Just teasing.

It’s true that the customer drives the image we as coders have to create. I’m just a bit annoyed as a site visitor, and more annoyed that I have to add the silly effects because my customers see them on other sites and think ‘cool’.

284 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 10:16:09am

re: #282 CuriousLurker

Me three.

Especially the ones that have a timer count before showing a close or minimize button to get rid of the thing.

285 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 10:16:29am

re: #280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I hate the sliders etc too.

What do you have against sliders? They are super tasty.

Oh wait. Those aren’t the sliders you’re talking about.

286 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 10:19:27am

It looks like someone fed the neighborhood squirrels uppers this morning. There are 5 of them tearing around at a shocking rate of speed out there. Zoom! There they go again. LOL

287 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 10:22:27am
288 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 10:24:47am

Not sure this is dispositive, but video seems to show the victim of last night’s officer-involved shooting buying a sandwich and no evidence he had a firearm at that point.

The timeline is still far from complete, and the investigation is only beginning. But wouldn’t you know that Hoft and the usual suspects are on the case.

They’re already poring over the victim’s background and criminal background - as though that gives any police officer the right to be their very own judge, jury and executioner.

289 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 10:25:17am

Ran across a new (to me) ad effect a couple of days ago.
I was reading a very long article when the page flipped as if it was on a 3D cube that you were reading the side of, the ad appeared on the “bottom” of the cube. Good visual effect but bad implementation, when you closed the ad you ended back at the top of the page and needed to scroll back down to where you were. :(

290 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 10:25:45am

re: #287 Lidane

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Vote secular: get sanity.

291 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 10:26:02am

re:
#287

ISIS Islamic radicals and the culture war against secularism are both part of the same worldwide threat to religious freedom, according to a Christian conference being held this weekend.

On Sunday, Oct. 12, conservative Christian groups — like the American Family Association (AFA), the Family Research Council (FRC) and other fringe groups — will meet in Washington, D.C. to outline a “national strategic plan that will bear fruit within 30 days and will greatly impact the critical midterm elections.”

Another wingnut conference? So soon? Don’t these people ever work?

292 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 10:26:12am

BEES!

293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 9, 2014 10:26:48am

re: #290 allegro

Vote secular: get sanity.

get science, and non-sectarian interpretation of history and the Constitution.

294 ObserverArt  Oct 9, 2014 10:27:59am

re: #286 allegro

It looks like someone fed the neighborhood squirrels uppers this morning. There are 5 of them tearing around at a shocking rate of speed out there. Zoom! There they go again. LOL

The little buggers have been busy in my neighborhood too. I have a huge blue spruce in my back yard. It seems the squirrels collect the nuts from around the rest of the neighborhood and then come to my yard to bury them in the ground under and just out from under the tree. There are a hundred little places in my yard where you can see they’ve been active.

A couple weeks ago, I built a mound that helps keep downspout runoff from working its way back to my foundation and also covers a couple of the corrugated runs from those spouts as there is no easy way to connect to the main runs I have that go to the street in the front and down two sides. The back yard is flat so I couldn’t figure a way to bury the corrugated pipes and have them work. So, I made the mound and have it covered in mulch until I can plant some stuff on it next spring.

Last Saturday I look out my big window in the main staircase and there are two squirrels digging that nice fresh dirt and burying walnuts.

Hey, I never have to aerate my back lawn. The squirrels take care of it for me.

295 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 10:30:00am

re: #289 ausador

Ran across a new (to me) ad effect a couple of days ago.
I was reading a very long article when the page flipped as if it was 3D cube that you were reading the side of, the ad appeared on the “bottom” of the cube. Good visual effect but bad implementation, when you closed the ad you ended back at the top of the page and needed to scroll back down to where you were. :(

I hate the sites (mostly magazines & newspapers) that scroll horizontally now so you can “swipe”. I tend to surfing with my iPad for exactly that reason; that and because I can’t find a decent ad blocker for Safari or Chrome in iOS.

296 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 10:30:35am

re: #286 allegro

It looks like someone fed the neighborhood squirrels uppers this morning. There are 5 of them tearing around at a shocking rate of speed out there. Zoom! There they go again. LOL

“None of that tomfoolery for me. I’ve read the story of the ant and the grasshopper.”

297 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 10:33:35am

re: #288 lawhawk

I’ve listened to the Chris Rock stand up album Born Suspect, and with how things have gone in America lately, you could say he performed it this morning.

298 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 9, 2014 10:34:03am

re: #292 Lidane

Clickbait. There’s a difference between the hive containing 800000 bees and all of these bees attacking the man.

299 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 10:34:49am

re: #291 Bulworth

re:
#287

Another wingnut conference? So soon? Don’t these people ever work?

They are working, doing the Lord’s work!

///

300 LadyBehir  Oct 9, 2014 10:35:35am

I should have mentioned that I always tell the Thon Kids that what they are doing really does help, since they are just college students with (hopefully) no personal knowledge of the 4 Diamond Fund. And, Klys, let me know when your grandmother does the 20 year survivor walk, I’ll sponsor her!

I F’ing HATE cancer.

301 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 10:37:45am

“riverrun, past Eve and Adam’s, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs… WTF?”

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 10:37:47am
303 danarchy  Oct 9, 2014 10:38:23am

re: #295 CuriousLurker

I hate the sites (mostly magazines & newspapers) that scroll horizontally now so you can “swipe”. I tend to surfing with my iPad for exactly that reason; that and because I can’t find a decent ad blocker for Safari or Chrome in iOS.

I hate when you go to a site to download a driver or software and the big green download button is actually an ad and the real download link is small and nondescript at the bottom of the page.

304 wrenchwench  Oct 9, 2014 10:39:13am

re: #301 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded image]

“riverrun, past Eve and Adam’s, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs… WTF?”

305 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 10:40:12am

re: #292 Lidane

If anyone is an X-Files person, that episode with the BEES that stung and carried Smallpox was on the El Ray network last night…uh oh

E
BEES
O
L
A

BEES CARRY EBOLA
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!11111

306 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 10:41:22am

re: #303 danarchy

I hate when you go to a site to download a driver or software and the big green download button is actually an ad and the real download link is small and nondescript at the bottom of the page.

Yeah, there are a lot of ads that seem to be purposed designed to look like GUI elements that are part of the page/site. Happens to me a lot when I use my iPad, not so much on the desktop as I always have my ad blocker & NoScript running. I’m annoyed that I need them.

307 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 10:43:51am
308 Timothy Watson  Oct 9, 2014 10:46:49am

re: #305 nsmith25

If anyone is an X-Files person, that episode with the BEES that stung and carried Smallpox was on the El Ray network last night…uh oh

E
BEES
O
L
A

BEES CARRY EBOLA
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!11111

I was watching this week’s episode of The Blacklist last night and was annoyed at the beginning of the episode because I thought it was going to be a complete rip-off of The X-Files’ “Hell Money”, thankfully The Blacklist’s episode went in a different direction.

309 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 10:57:51am

re: #286 allegro

It looks like someone fed the neighborhood squirrels uppers this morning. There are 5 of them tearing around at a shocking rate of speed out there. Zoom! There they go again. LOL

Maybe they raided a Starbucks?

This could be bad…

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:01:52am

re: #305 nsmith25

If anyone is an X-Files person, that episode with the BEES that stung and carried Smallpox was on the El Ray network last night…uh oh

E
BEES
O
L
A

BEES CARRY EBOLA
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!11111

How soon until the hounds are modified to shoot EBOLA BEES at you when they bark?
//

311 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:02:36am

re: #309 ausador

Maybe they raided a Starbucks?

This could be bad…

Or found a cache of expresso beans maybe.

312 Eventual Carrion  Oct 9, 2014 11:15:36am

re: #283 Editor in Chief

Yah, pass the buck….

Just teasing.

It’s true that the customer drives the image we as coders have to create. I’m just a bit annoyed as a site visitor, and more annoyed that I have to add the silly effects because my customers see them on other sites and think ‘cool’.

Yeah, a team here at work a few years back went through a whole thing with Silverlight because someone in marketing wanted rounded corners on the buttons. No matter that Silverlight didn’t play so well with C# it seemed (I wasn’t part of that team but heard enough about Silverlight not bubbling up exceptions and the pain of debugging that I didn’t want to be part of that team). It was finally abandoned and they lived with the sharp corners.

313 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 9, 2014 11:26:26am

re: #294 ObserverArt

-snip-
Last Saturday I look out my big window in the main staircase and there are two squirrels digging that nice fresh dirt and burying walnuts.

Hey, I never have to aerate my back lawn. The squirrels take care of it for me.

The yard squirrels and rabbits are my dog’s exercise modules


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