Update on Possible New Ebola Patient: “Low Risk,” Did Not Have Contact With Duncan, Does Not Have Fever

Fever is one of the main indicators of Ebola
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The test results are not in yet for the sheriff’s deputy under observation at Texas Health Resources in Dallas, but Matt Goodman at Healthcare Daily has one more piece of information we hadn’t seen before: the deputy does not have one of the main symptoms of Ebola, a fever.

On Wednesday afternoon, a Dallas County sheriff’s deputy who went into the Vickery Meadow apartment where Duncan was staying drove to an urgent care clinic in Frisco after his stomach began hurting. He was then taken by ambulance to Texas Health Presbyterian out of an abundance of caution, said Frisco Fire Chief Mark Piland.

“He neither had definite contact with Ebola nor definite symptoms of Ebola,” said CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden during an afternoon news conference.

[…]

Monitoring involves twice-daily temperature checks, as a fever is often the first sign of Ebola. The Texas Department of Health and Human Services said he was never among those being monitored for contact with Duncan:

“This individual was not one of the contacts of the patient and has no fever. We understand that anyone near the Dallas response will be very concerned about any health issues they experience, and we want them to report those issues so we can check them out quickly. We’re closely tracking those whose contact put them at risk of potential infection, and none of those people have reported any symptoms of Ebola. The disease is spread only through direct contact with blood, secretions or other bodily fluids or exposure to contaminated objects, such as needles.”

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1 wrenchwench  Oct 9, 2014 10:42:28am
out of an abundance of caution

That might qualify as an overabundance of caution.

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 10:43:16am

re: #1 wrenchwench

That might qualify as an overabundance of caution.

Yes, it was the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen yet.

3 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 10:43:40am
4 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 10:46:07am
5 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 10:46:36am

I felt surprisingly sad hearing of Duncan’s death on the news yesterday. It’s a sad thing when anyone dies but this one was especially so, I think, because he probably died as a result of helping a young woman even hospitals turned away. He was a good guy.

6 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 10:48:26am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, it was the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen yet.

Got gas? Ebola!!!

7 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 10:48:52am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

8 Stanley Sea  Oct 9, 2014 10:52:38am

Hey Charles, wanted to thank you for the Jackson Browne post. I had signed off last night when posted, but enjoyed it much this morning. Memories.

9 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 10:53:22am

Wow. Totally insane comment at the link above:

thank you for your services for this man with ebola. But do you not think there are many thousands that have already died. This man broke the law sneaking into our country. trying to get our medical help. Nothing more and nothing less.

Lets worry more about what you are doing to decontaminate this area and keep everyone else disease free. he died so get on with your business as usual.
I am sure he is not the first person who has died at your hospital.

now speak out and tell our freakin government to lets start doing more on folks going there and for Gods sake coming from there.

speak out speak out about investing our country with more folks arriving daily from there. and we are going to look at them as they get off the damn plane to see if they look sicky. . lets get real, if someone has a fever that is detected, than we must quarinteine everyone who was there.

Duncan didn’t “sneak into our country.” He had a visa and was here legally.

This is the effect of the right wing noise machine.

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 10:54:24am
11 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 10:55:30am
“…speak out speak out about investing our country with more folks arriving daily from there. and we are going to look at them as they get off the damn plane to see if they look sicky…”

Probably someone who complains about people speaking English funny.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 10:57:27am

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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CDC did not say dogs can carry ebola without showing symptoms.

From yesterday’s presser:

OPERATOR: Our next question comes from Marillyn Marchione, with the Associated Press.

MARILLYN MARCHIONE: Thank you very much for taking this. The Madrid officials said they are seeking a court order to euthanize the dog of the nursing assistant who tested positive. So I have two questions: Can dogs transmit Ebola to people, and, second, are there any dogs or any other animals involved in the Dallas patient’s case or immediate contacts you’re monitoring?

TOM FRIEDEN: There is one article in the medical literature that discusses the presence of antibodies to Ebola in dogs. Whether that was an accurate test and whether that was a relevant test, we don’t know, but we want to look at all possibilities. We have not identified this as a means of transmission. We do know in rural areas of Africa, that Ebola can infect mammals. In fact, that’s how it spreads, from probably bats to animals living in the forest, people hunting the animals. When they hunt the animals and prepare them for serving, they may become infected from the flood that is involved. We don’t think this would be a means of transmission, and I can’t comment on the specifics of Spain and I’ll ask Dr. Lakey to comment on Texas.

DAVID LAKEY: Thank you, Tom. We are not monitoring any animals at this time. I have no knowledge of any animals in the house or exposed. Thank you.

cdc.gov

13 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 10:58:17am

I need to find whoever made this corporate security training and beat them. You have to let the whole slide play to get credit, so even if you read the whole thing and are ready to move ahead, you’re stuck waiting for another 2-3 minutes for it to play thru.

14 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 10:58:52am
On Wednesday afternoon, a Dallas County sheriff’s deputy who went into the Vickery Meadow apartment where Duncan was staying drove to an urgent care clinic in Frisco after his stomach began hurting.

Another victim of the Olive Garden Endless Pasta Bowl.

15 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 10:59:12am

re: #13 Kragar

I need to find whoever made this corporate security training and beat them. You have to let the whole slide play to get credit, so even if you read the whole thing and are ready to move ahead, you’re stuck waiting for another 2-3 minutes for it to play thru.

Autoplay -> background process -> guess answers at end -> training done

16 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:01:11am

re: #15 iossarian

Autoplay -> background process -> guess answers at end -> training done

Thats just it. It won’t proceed to the next slide till you hit continue and you can’t continue till the slide plays thru.

17 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:06:04am

re: #13 Kragar

I need to find whoever made this corporate security training and beat them. You have to let the whole slide play to get credit, so even if you read the whole thing and are ready to move ahead, you’re stuck waiting for another 2-3 minutes for it to play thru.

Do you have to take the same training and undergo the entire program again next year as well?

18 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 11:06:42am

re: #13 Kragar

I need to find whoever made this corporate security training and beat them. You have to let the whole slide play to get credit, so even if you read the whole thing and are ready to move ahead, you’re stuck waiting for another 2-3 minutes for it to play thru.

Have to do these every year for my coaching re-certification. Absolutely suck. 3 Hours wasted for only 10 min of actual work.

19 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:09:33am

re: #17 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you have to take the same training and undergo the entire program again next year as well?

Yup, its a yearly security refresher.

re: #18 nsmith25

Have to do these every year for my coaching re-certification. Absolutely suck. 3 Hours wasted for only 10 min of actual work.

Its a hour long slide show with questions I can answer in less than 2 minutes, and I’ve got about 6 hours more worth of other “refreshers” coming up in the next few days.

20 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 11:10:09am

re: #16 Kragar

Thats just it. It won’t proceed to the next slide till you hit continue and you can’t continue till the slide plays thru.

Our people got into trouble for getting their interns to click through for them a couple of years ago.

21 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 11:11:04am

New solution: outsource click through to Chinese MMORPG gold farmers.

22 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 11:12:54am

Classy, Jacksonville Jaguars mascot, classy.

23 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:13:31am

re: #19 Kragar

Yup, its a yearly security refresher.

Its a hour long slide show with questions I can answer in less than 2 minutes, and I’ve got about 6 hours more worth of other “refreshers” coming up in the next few days.

I’m going through 2-3 a month right now as all the annual ones come up. Mainly safety and employee rights programs.

24 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 11:17:56am

re:
#9

This man broke the law sneaking into our country. trying to get our medical help. Nothing more and nothing less.

Ah, the “pro-life” viewpoint.

/

25 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 11:18:20am

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My Wingnut cousin in West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on FB today, where Kristen Powers called the euthanizing of the dog in Madrid ‘Pure Evil”.

Pure Evil? If euthanizing a dog to prevent the further transmission of a zoonotic communicable disease with 50% mortality is ‘Pure Evil’, what descriptors do you have left for serial killers, mass murderers and genocides?

26 iossarian  Oct 9, 2014 11:19:33am

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

My Wingnut cousin in West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on FB today, where Kristen Powers called the euthanizing of the dog in Madrid ‘Pure Evil”.

Pure Evil? If euthanizing a dog to prevent the further transmission of a zoonotic communicable disease with 50% mortality is ‘Pure Evil’, what descriptors do you have left for serial killers, mass murderers and genocides?

Thing nutjob has positive gut reaction to = “Patriotism”
Thing nutjob has negative gut reaction to = “Pure Evil”

27 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:20:24am

Thank God. I figured out how you could skip to the “learning checks”. Did the remaining 45 minutes of the course in 3 minutes.

28 sattv4u2  Oct 9, 2014 11:20:50am

re: #13 Kragar

I need to find whoever made this corporate security training and beat them. You have to let the whole slide play to get credit, so even if you read the whole thing and are ready to move ahead, you’re stuck waiting for another 2-3 minutes for it to play thru.

Yup

Same where I work. we have a course every month! Only 2 courses a year are “new” so I’ve seen some of them 6 years running now. And the way it’s set up you can’t even hit “PLAY” and come back an hour and a half later when the last module is done. You have to physically click “NEXT” to advance from one screen to the next

29 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 11:21:25am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Wow. Totally insane comment at the link above:

This man broke the law sneaking into our country. trying to get our medical help.

Duncan didn’t “sneak into our country.” He had a visa and was here legally.

This is the effect of the right wing noise machine.

He sneaked into our country through the Immigration entry port, with a visa, trying to get medical help for a disease he didn’t know he had and which he was not yet experiencing.

30 sattv4u2  Oct 9, 2014 11:21:30am

re: #22 De Kolta Chair

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Classy, Jacksonville Jaguars mascot, classy.

Is that the mascots name,,, “Towels” !?!?!?!

/

31 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 11:22:32am

re: #30 sattv4u2

Is that the mascots name,,, “Towels” !?!?!?!

/

The team plays like a bunch of wet towels.

32 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 11:22:43am

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

My Wingnut cousin in West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on FB today, where Kristen Powers called the euthanizing of the dog in Madrid ‘Pure Evil”.

Pure Evil? If euthanizing a dog to prevent the further transmission of a zoonotic communicable disease with 50% mortality is ‘Pure Evil’, what descriptors do you have left for serial killers, mass murderers and genocides?

I see it as a missed opportunity. That dog could have been a valuable research subject to quarantine, observe, and test. Knowing if pet dogs can carry and transmit the disease would be real helpful knowledge.

33 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 11:24:31am

re: #32 allegro

I see it as a missed opportunity. That dog could have been a valuable research subject to quarantine, observe, and test. Knowing if pet dogs can carry and transmit the disease would be real helpful knowledge.

I suspect there would also be outcry to making the dog into an experimental subject.

34 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:25:11am

And now they want to fix the light above my desk.

DOES THIS HELL NEVER STOP?!

35 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 11:25:12am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson

@Green_Footballs I’ve been to more interesting places with more interesting people

im sure chuckie c believes he had a career playing with some of the most famous jazz musicians in the world too

but more interesting

36 Franklin  Oct 9, 2014 11:26:05am

re: #35 dog philosopher

im sure chuckie c believes he had a career playing with some of the most famous jazz musicians in the world too

but more interesting with red hair

37 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 11:26:09am

re: #34 Kragar

And now they want to fix the light above my desk.

DOES THIS HELL NEVER STOP?!

Is it flickering like the lights in Bioshock?

38 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:26:37am

re: #35 dog philosopher

im sure chuckie c believes he had a career playing with some of the most famous jazz musicians in the world too

but more interesting

I’m thinking James O’keefe stuffed CCJ into his trunk and drove around for a few days and then told him he smuggled him across the border

39 Mike Lamb  Oct 9, 2014 11:27:54am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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No, Chuck, a transaction at the currency exchange window is not bribing…

40 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:28:21am

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

Is it flickering like the lights in Bioshock?

Nope, its out. I told them don’t worry about it. I don’t feel like climbing up on my desk to disable another one.

41 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:35:49am

First it was flying wolves, now its vampire wolves

42 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 9, 2014 11:37:07am

re: #41 Kragar

Vampirism is the obvious way for wolves to develop wings.

Duh.

43 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 11:38:53am

Because tennis…

World No. 17 Fabio Fognini flips off the Shanghai Open crowd after losing in straight sets to 553 ranked Wang Chuhan.

44 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 11:39:34am

latest ad line in the freep republic begging for donations campaign:

cute

45 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 11:40:31am

OK, what the heck happened there? Marriages don’t usually end in murder suicide in less than 24 hours… :(

46 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 11:40:57am

re: #41 Kragar

He’s all set for someone not him to start killing some socialist/commie zombie immigrant/muslims.

47 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 11:41:36am

re: #45 ausador

OK, what the heck happened there? Marriages don’t usually end in murder suicide in less than 24 hours… :(

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See, told ya SSM would ruin traditional Marriage

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48 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 11:42:25am

I am currently dealing with some poor, deluded saps who think that Rand Paul is either: a) a principled libertarian who says what he has to say to win in the GOP, or b) a social moderate/liberal with crossover appeal.

I am amused.

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 11:42:35am

re: #45 ausador

OK, what the heck happened there? Marriages don’t usually end in murder suicide in less than 24 hours… :(

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I read about that the other day. The fight (over his money) started during the reception.
Very weird.

50 Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 9, 2014 11:43:32am

re: #39 Mike Lamb

No, Chuck, a transaction at the currency exchange window is not bribing…

I spent 5 years in Costa Rica on a renewable tourist visa. There were many trips to Nicaragua to renew my visa where customs “officials” made up rules and tried to prevent me from returning to CR. Either I hadn’t stayed away long enough, or there was a new fee implemented. There was never anyone in any official-looking capacity to make a report to, and I would be forced to comply — even though I knew it wasn’t a new fee and I was essentially paying a bribe.

Not taking upchuck’s side, by any means. But sometimes there is no other way.

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 11:43:33am

Jellybean toes!

52 Ace-o-aces  Oct 9, 2014 11:46:14am

re: #41 Kragar

53 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 11:46:18am

re: #45 ausador

From AZ Central yesterday: Police ID newly divorced couple in Phoenix murder-suicide.

Police on Wednesday identified Blaine Palmer and Jennifer Palmer, both 52, as the newly divorced couple whose bodies were found in a north Phoenix home on Tuesday.

The Palmers’ divorce had gone through on Monday, according to court records.

Police believe Blaine Palmer shot Jennifer and turned the gun on himself…

54 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 11:49:54am

re: #48 Lidane

I am currently dealing with some poor, deluded saps who think that Rand Paul is either: a) a principled libertarian who says what he has to say to win in the GOP, or b) a social moderate/liberal with crossover appeal.

I am amused.

‘principled libertarian’ has significant entertainment value. You might want to see if they will bite on nonsense like no regulations at all for food and medicine.

55 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 11:53:56am

re: #48 Lidane

I am currently dealing with some poor, deluded saps who think that Rand Paul is either: a) a principled libertarian who says what he has to say to win in the GOP, or b) a social moderate/liberal with crossover appeal.

I am amused.

Isn’t ‘a’ equivalent to lying meaning he isn’t principled?

56 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:55:33am

re: #54 EPR-radar

‘principled libertarian’ has significant entertainment value. You might want to see if they will bite on nonsense like no regulations at all for food and medicine.

Isn’t “principled” and “say what he has to say to win” sort of contradictory outside of the main principle being “win at any cost”?

O_o

57 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 11:56:05am

re: #54 EPR-radar

But on the bright side, if the Libertarians ever do take over we’ll have opiates in our soda pop again. //

58 Sionainn  Oct 9, 2014 11:56:22am

re: #50 Flying Squirrel Girl

I spent 5 years in Costa Rica on a renewable tourist visa. There were many trips to Nicaragua to renew my visa where customs “officials” made up rules and tried to prevent me from returning to CR. Either I hadn’t stayed away long enough, or there was a new fee implemented. There was never anyone in any official-looking capacity to make a report to, and I would be forced to comply — even though I knew it wasn’t a new fee and I was essentially paying a bribe.

Not taking upchuck’s side, by any means. But sometimes there is no other way.

I don’t believe Chuck has ever left his basement.

59 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 9, 2014 11:58:24am

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

But on the bright side, if the Libertarians ever do take over we’ll have opiates in our soda pop. //

That should cover up the taste of the mine effluent and fracking fluids quite well.

60 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 12:24:37pm

re: #48 Lidane

I am currently dealing with some poor, deluded saps who think that Rand Paul is either: a) a principled libertarian who says what he has to say to win in the GOP, or b) a social moderate/liberal with crossover appeal.

I am amused.

He’s a floor polish AND a dessert topping!


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