Your Horrible Right Wing Article of the Day: “Thank You, ISIS, for Beheading Americans”

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The National Review brings us our absolutely vile right wing article of the day, as David Horowitz says, “Thank You, ISIS,” for beheading people and posting the video —because according to Horowitz this will wake up Americans, make them truly hate all Muslims, and get us ready to kill, kill, kill.

He doesn’t even try to disguise this one with a boilerplate statement about “not all Muslims,” because why should he? The all-out hatred Horowitz espouses is now mainstream in the US conservative movement.

As is standard with twisted hate pieces like this, Horowitz concludes his disgusting rant by accusing President Obama of hating America and “identifying with the Islamic world.”

Language is a weapon in the battle against the threat we face. We cannot fight a war effectively when we cannot name the enemy or describe his methods or examine his influence on our own policy. The Islamic State has created an opportunity for common sense and realism to prevail. The tragedy is that it has taken the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Christians in the Middle East and the ongoing extermination of the Catholic presence in Iraq to begin to wake people up. And, unfortunately, the president is still asleep or, less charitably, is hostile to American purposes, is hostile to the military that defends us, and identifies more with the Islamic world that has produced these forces who would destroy us than with the country he is sworn to defend.

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99 comments
1 Mike Lamb  Oct 9, 2014 11:45:07am

Back in my day, that type of article would get someone fired…

The day, of course, being the 90’s…

2 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 11:46:15am

Has he been invited to speak at the AFA conference yet?

3 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 11:47:30am

Charles Johnson,

I hope David Horowitz goes broke and has to shut down all the propaganda websites he hosts and is no longer able to send out those pamphlets. The people at National Review ought to be ashamed of themselves.

4 Ace-o-aces  Oct 9, 2014 11:48:35am
5 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 11:52:47am
6 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 11:52:53am

re: #2 Kragar

7 The War TARDIS  Oct 9, 2014 11:55:32am

OT, but I found this.

Ted Nugent’s latest rant: There are no poor in America, and vampire wolves are coming

Considering his odd habits in the past, could he have neurosyphilis?

8 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 11:58:48am

So, National Review Online is now dealt with via donotlink.com. Makes sense to not give clicks to a hate site.

The degeneration of the US conservative movement and the GOP into a seething mass of bigotry, fear, and hate proceeds apace.

9 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 12:02:25pm

“Bristol was out of control”

Youtube Video

10 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 12:06:17pm

re: #9 Kragar

11 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 12:08:49pm

And thank you Mr. Horowitz for again showing why National Review is a terrible publication deserving of the scorn it gets.

12 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 12:09:08pm

re: #9 Kragar

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“Bristol was out of control”

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What a trashy family.

13 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 12:09:18pm
The tragedy is that it has taken the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Christians in the Middle East and to begin to wake people up.

Wait, whut?

ISIS has supposedly slaughtered “hundred of thousands of Muslims and Christians” in the ME? He must be thinking of the Iraq invasion and its aftermath.

And

the ongoing extermination of the Catholic presence in Iraq

Not sure of the facts here, and I doubt he is either, but are Christians and Catholic Christians in particular just now being oppressed in Iraq? You mean they weren’t before, like when the “brutal dictator Saddam Hussein” ruled Iraq?

14 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 12:09:42pm

re: #6 CriticalDragon1177

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15 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 12:10:50pm
16 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 12:11:13pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

And thank you Mr. Horowitz for again showing why National Review is a terrible publication deserving of the scorn it gets.

The National Review is Stormfront + plausible deniability.

17 HappyWarrior  Oct 9, 2014 12:13:33pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

The National Review is Stormfront + plausible deniability.

NR is Stormfront if Stormfront thought it was intellectual.

18 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 12:15:48pm

NR is Stormfront if Stormfront finished highschool.

19 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 12:16:53pm

I can’t imagine losing an innocent loved one in such a horribly violent way and then having this execrable, despicable excuse for a human being crowing “thank you” to the murderers. He should see a mental health professional a.s.a.p. His hatred of Muslims seems to have eclipsed any sense of decency or humanity he might still have had prior to this.

And he says the same B.S. I’ve been seeing in one of our pages and coming out of the mouths of people like Harris, Maher, Dawkins, Geller, SPencer, etc. about how, “No one is allowed to criticize Islam or Muslims in any way or liberals will accuse them of being bigots and Islamophobes.”

Yeah, uh-huh. Boo-fricking-hoo, poor you. //

20 Sionainn  Oct 9, 2014 12:18:37pm

National Review is Stormfront.

21 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 12:22:01pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

I can’t imagine losing an innocent loved one in such a horribly violent way and then having this execrable, despicable excuse for a human being crowing “thank you” to the murderers. He should see a mental health professional a.s.a.p. His hatred of Muslims seems to have eclipsed any sense of decency or humanity he might still have had prior to this.

And he says the same B.S. I’ve been seeing in one of our pages and coming out of the mouths of people like Harris, Maher, Dawkins, Geller, SPencer, etc. about how, “No one is allowed to criticize Islam or Muslims in any way or liberals will accuse them of being bigots and Islamophobes.”

Yeah, uh-huh. Boo-fricking-hoo, poor you. //

And then there’s UpChuck who smeared the murdered.

22 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 9, 2014 12:22:20pm

And here we go. Doom and gloom. Republicans are supposed to take over the Senate.

cnn.com

Not if I have anything to do with it.

If that happens, and they maintain control of the house too, then this kind of batshit crazy could very well become policy.

23 klys  Oct 9, 2014 12:23:03pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

I can’t imagine losing an innocent loved one in such a horribly violent way and then having this execrable, despicable excuse for a human being crowing “thank you” to the murderers. He should see a mental health professional a.s.a.p. His hatred of Muslims seems to have eclipsed any sense of decency or humanity he might still have had prior to this.

And he says the same B.S. I’ve been seeing in one of our pages and coming out of the mouths of people like Harris, Maher, Dawkins, Geller, SPencer, etc. about how, “No one is allowed to criticize Islam or Muslims in any way or liberals will accuse them of being bigots and Islamophobes.”

Yeah, uh-huh. Boo-fricking-hoo, poor you. //

If one doesn’t want to be called a bigot, maybe one shouldn’t stake out bigoted positions that ascribe the actions of fundamentalists to the religion as a whole.

/headdesk

24 makeitstop  Oct 9, 2014 12:25:04pm

re: #9 Kragar

The Palin brawl police report is all the drama you hoped it’d be: Willow said people were saying “F*ck the Palins”

So Godly.
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25 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 12:26:59pm
26 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 12:27:25pm

re: #7 The War TARDIS

OT, but I found this.

Ted Nugent’s latest rant: There are no poor in America, and vampire wolves are coming

Considering his odd habits in the past, could he have neurosyphilis?

Dunno. Ask him to say ‘Methodist Episcopal’.

27 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 12:28:54pm

re: #15 Kragar

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I was thinking more Yakety Sax

28 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 12:30:51pm

re: #13 Bulworth

Wait, whut?

ISIS has supposedly slaughtered “hundred of thousands of Muslims and Christians” in the ME? He must be thinking of the Iraq invasion and its aftermath.

And

the ongoing extermination of the Catholic presence in Iraq

Not sure of the facts here, and I doubt he is either, but are Christians and Catholic Christians in particular just now being oppressed in Iraq? You mean they weren’t before, like when the “brutal dictator Saddam Hussein” ruled Iraq?

He (and others, including Netanyahu) are attempting to conflate all Islamist/terrorist groups with each other, then in turn the professional Islamophobes like Geller conflate Islamists with observant Muslims (they usually use “pious” or “devout” instead of observant). For example this, from one of her rabid posts:

donotlink.com

29 Kid A  Oct 9, 2014 12:37:40pm

The comments. Be afraid.

30 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 12:37:52pm
31 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 12:38:09pm

re: #23 klys

If one doesn’t want to be called a bigot, maybe one shouldn’t stake out bigoted positions that ascribe the actions of fundamentalists to the religion as a whole.

/headdesk

I really gets on my last nerve sometimes. It’s every freaking day, several times a day. And there are idiots who laud them as heroic truth tellers & fearless defenders of freedom. Puhleez.

32 klys  Oct 9, 2014 12:40:45pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

He (and others, including Netanyahu) are attempting to conflate all Islamist/terrorist groups with each other, then in turn the professional Islamophobes like Geller conflate Islamists with observant Muslims (they usually use “pious” or “devout” instead of observant). For example this, from one of her rabid posts:

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donotlink.com

I feel like I just read that same statement from our friend in the pages, except they can’t even keep what they’re arguing straight (Islam has a particular problem but we just need to find a liberal interpretation of it but it’s still the worstest! Also look at all these countries in the Middle East becoming more fundamentalist it’s all Islam’s fault!).

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 12:41:19pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

He (and others, including Netanyahu) are attempting to conflate all Islamist/terrorist groups with each other, then in turn the professional Islamophobes like Geller conflate Islamists with observant Muslims (they usually use “pious” or “devout” instead of observant). For example this, from one of her rabid posts:

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donotlink.com

Sounds like our tag team trolls.

34 klys  Oct 9, 2014 12:41:44pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like our tag team trolls.

One of them is still fucking the chicken.

35 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 12:42:05pm

re: #34 klys

One of them is still fucking the chicken.

I see that.

36 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 12:42:40pm

re: #30 Kragar

The whole situation in the Greater STL area is poisoned by the fact that Wilson shot and killed an unarmed black man. There’s no trust of the police force, so that even situations where deadly force might be justified is questioned and the facts are still being sorted out.

The police say that they’ve recovered a firearm and that they didn’t recover a sandwich at the scene. The family says he was unarmed and eating a sandwich. An autopsy would go to the latter. That takes time to do - and results will be forthcoming soon enough. The autopsy would also indicate whether GSR was found on him indicating that he fired a gun.

All of that takes time, but the community isn’t in a mood to wait - not when they’ve seen at least 3 officer-involved shootings of black men result in their deaths, and the police actions are suspect in two of them.

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 12:46:03pm

Yet another reason I believe today’s youth give me hope for the future:

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 12:47:48pm

heh…

39 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 12:49:38pm

re: #32 klys

I feel like I just read that same statement from our friend in the pages, except they can’t even keep what they’re arguing straight (Islam has a particular problem but we just need to find a liberal interpretation of it but it’s still the worstest! Also look at all these countries in the Middle East becoming more fundamentalist it’s all Islam’s fault!).

Yeah, they can’t seem to decide between “Islam is inherently violent and The Worst Religion Ever™” and “It didn’t used to be that bad, but something went wrong and now they need a Reformation.”

Which one is it? If it’s inherently violent and The Worst Religion Ever™, then its adherents should have done a LOT more damage by now considering the religion has been around for 1400+ years and its followers now comprise 1/5 of the global population.

40 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 12:51:16pm

re: #34 klys

One of them is still fucking the chicken.

I’m not even gonna peek. I’ve had enough of that thread.

41 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 12:56:43pm

My thoughts on the Horowitz column from earlier today…

Horowitz article is proof that ISIS terrorism as propaganda works.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 1:01:11pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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heh… didn’t even take 10 minutes:

43 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 1:01:53pm

re: #41 ausador

I know people like him aren’t really doing anything to stop ISIS, in fact they’re helping them promote the myth that the entire western world along with Israel is out to destroy Muslims.

44 klys  Oct 9, 2014 1:02:27pm

re: #40 CuriousLurker

I’m not even gonna peek. I’ve had enough of that thread.

You are a wise, wise woman.

Someday I will have wisdom like that.

/checks

Nope, still not today.

45 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 1:02:32pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh… didn’t even take 10 minutes:

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I love Wonkette!

46 nines09  Oct 9, 2014 1:03:17pm

Never stopped a RWNJ. Not once. In fact they and the Tea Party demand ignorance and downright doltishness.

47 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 1:03:30pm

That moment when you realize you’re 90% of the way through all of your work commitments for the day and you still have two hours to go.

It’s gonna be a LONG afternoon.

48 Ace-o-aces  Oct 9, 2014 1:03:33pm
49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 1:05:01pm

re: #45 CriticalDragon1177

I love Wonkette!

omg…it’s brutal and I am so going to hell for laughing so hard…

50 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 1:07:08pm

re: #32 klys

BTW, you might find this article interesting. It was written by a British Muslim woman and very accurately describes how aggravating things get (there’s also a bit of sarcastic humor, heh):

The Sun’s ‘Unite against Isis’ campaign is a proxy for anti-Muslim bigotry

Imagine your average British Muslim family sitting around the breakfast table with the papers this morning. On the front page of the Sun, an image of a woman in a hijab fashioned out of the Union Jack and the headline “United Against IS” hollers out at them. In the right-hand corner, a subheadline urges them to “stand up to extremists”.

Yes, you there, Muslim - bleary eyed, sipping your coffee, who thought the activities of a militant group thousands of miles away had nothing to do with you - are you standing up to extremism right now? Is your Islam “British”? If not, then you are Part of the Problem.

It doesn’t end there. Inside, there is a flag cutout with “United Against IS” on it. Please stick it on your window or somewhere else highly visible to make it clear where you stand. Now, time for cornflakes. […]

51 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 1:07:53pm

i like a little humor break ever oncet and a while

[George] Will slapped together a column this morning hyping a potential Christie run in 2016, writing that Christie “radiates serenity,” pairs “occasional pugnacity” with a “sedate, diplomatic manner,” and is a “zestful political combatant.”

52 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 1:08:05pm

re: #44 klys

You are a wise, wise woman.

Someday I will have wisdom like that.

/checks

Nope, still not today.

Thanks again to you & ww for holding down the fort. I get exhausted sometimes.

53 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 1:08:44pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

54 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 1:09:50pm

re: #47 Lidane

That moment when you realize you’re 90% of the way through all of your work commitments for the day and you still have two hours to go.

It’s gonna be a LONG afternoon.

That moment when you realize you haven’t done more than 10% of your work commitments because you’ve been on LGF and Twitter all day arguing with a creationist and you have to have them done for tomorrow’s trip.

55 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 1:11:57pm

re: #54 Editor in Chief

That moment when you realize you haven’t done more than 10% of your work commitments because you’ve been on LGF and Twitter all day arguing with a creationist and you have to have them done for tomorrow’s trip.

Speaking of…. later, lizards.

56 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 1:14:24pm

re: #54 Editor in Chief

That moment when you realize you haven’t done more than 10% of your work commitments because you’ve been on LGF and Twitter all day arguing with a creationist and you have to have them done for tomorrow’s trip.

57 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:15:10pm

Speaking of work, why is it that I come up with great ideas for things while I’m walking the dogs, or riding my bike, or going out to get lunch, but never when I sit down and try ti think of what the next steps should be for particular projects?

And why can’t I remember the great things I thought up when I go to write them up?

58 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:16:31pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…it’s brutal and I am so going to hell for laughing so hard…

Boy, that Bristol sounds like a piece of work, doesn’t she? Whats-his-name, father of her kid, really dodged a bullet there!

59 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 1:17:29pm

In a brief interview with Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg, Gohmert made the most of his limited time by suggesting the Obama administration was prioritizing climate change over responding to the Ebola outbreak or combating ISIL militants.

“This President, and this secretary of state, think that more deadly to this country than Ebola is climate change, more deadly than the Islamic State to Thomas Foley is climate change,” Gohmert said.

Gohmert presumably meant to refer to James Foley, the American journalist who was beheaded by the extremist group in a video released in August.

60 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 1:18:35pm

re:
#51

“But why is Hillary so bitchy and quarrelsome with the media? Hillary lacks the proper graces to be president…She’s so pushy..she needs to be much nicer.”

61 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:19:30pm

re: #59 Kragar

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What, no Benghazi?

62 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 9, 2014 1:19:55pm

re: #60 Bulworth

re:
#51

“But why is Hillary so bitchy and quarrelsome with the media? Hillary lacks the proper graces to be president…She’s so pushy..she needs to be much nicer.”

Why can’t she act like a proper deferential woman? /translate

63 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 1:20:30pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Speaking of work, why is it that I come up with great ideas for things while I’m walking the dogs, or riding my bike, or going out to get lunch, but never when I sit down and try ti think of what the next steps should be for particular projects?

And why can’t I remember the great things I thought up when I go to write them up?

Entropy.

64 Bubblehead II  Oct 9, 2014 1:20:42pm

Well we know know why Nevada got included in Kennedy’s SSM stay. One of the document Idaho submitted in its request had the case numbers from both Idaho and Nevada listed on it.

Court says it erred in halting Nevada gay marriage

The trouble arose because Idaho’s request to the court included a document from the appeals court that listed case numbers for both states.

Lawyers for the Idaho plaintiffs have about 40 minutes left to make their case for why Kennedy should lift his stay. Here’s hoping they made a convincing argument.

65 lawhawk  Oct 9, 2014 1:20:42pm

Professional agitators… as opposed to professional derpologists like Hoft and CCJ.

Because it’s far easier for Hoft and the smear mongers to go after people peacefully protesting against injustices and for Hoft and the other smear mongers to attack the victims of police brutality/excessive force without an actual shred of evidence (see Brown, Michael).

66 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:21:04pm

re: #63 Editor in Chief

Entropy.

And as a Scientist, I have to respect entropy.

67 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 1:21:06pm

re:
#59

Thomas Foley, James Foley, yeah that guy, whoever.

68 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 1:21:28pm

re: #59 Kragar

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Asparagus.

69 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 9, 2014 1:21:30pm

So it appears that the Deputy does NOT have Ebola. But I am sure the freakout will continue unabated.

70 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:22:45pm

re: #65 lawhawk

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Professional agitators… as opposed to professional derpologists like Hoft and CCJ.

Because it’s far easier for Hoft and the smear mongers to go after people peacefully protest against injustices and for Hoft and the other smear mongers to attack the victims of police brutality/excessive force without an actual shred of evidence (see Brown, Michael).

Well, you know what they used to say - inside every white washer there’s a black agitator.
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71 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 1:22:49pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

And as a Scientist, I have to respect entropy.

If you don’t you could experience enthalpy.

72 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 9, 2014 1:23:09pm

Back in the 60s Horowitz was a well-known commie asshole. Now he’s a well-known right wing asshole.

Whether the water is salt or fresh, shit floats.
(Alleged to be an old Russian proverb)

73 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 9, 2014 1:24:10pm

re: #65 lawhawk

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Professional agitators… as opposed to professional derpologists like Hoft and CCJ.

Because it’s far easier for Hoft and the smear mongers to go after people peacefully protest against injustices and for Hoft and the other smear mongers to attack the victims of police brutality/excessive force without an actual shred of evidence (see Brown, Michael).

But since Jim lives right there in the St. Louis area, I’m confident that he has gone down, talked to people at the scene, tried to find the background on why the situation devolved the way it did. A man so enamored by the facts would, no doubt, have a burning desire to forge connections into the community and break the real story.

I crack myself up sometimes.

rBS

74 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 9, 2014 1:24:30pm

re: #72 Shiplord Kirel

Back in the 60s Horowitz was a well-known commie asshole. Now he’s a well-known right wing asshole.

Whether the water is salt or fresh, shit floats.
(Alleged to be an old Russian proverb)

I thought that was diagnostic of certain lipid processing disorders.
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75 Bulworth  Oct 9, 2014 1:24:38pm

re:
#65

Professional Agitators Gather in St. Louis City to Plan Tonight’s Riots

Unlike proper agitators, I mean Defenders of American Freedom and Liberty, who instead of planning riots, plan Operation American Springs where they’ll march into Washington, D.C. and overthrow an elected government.

76 No Country For Old Haters  Oct 9, 2014 1:25:06pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Speaking of work, why is it that I come up with great ideas for things while I’m walking the dogs, or riding my bike, or going out to get lunch, but never when I sit down and try ti think of what the next steps should be for particular projects?

And why can’t I remember the great things I thought up when I go to write them up?

If my experience is anything to go by, it’s because you were baked when you came up with these “great” ideas.

More seriously, use the voice recorder on your phone when you have ideas, or buy a cheap voice recorder if you don’t have a smart phone. leaving yourself voice-mails works too.

77 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 1:25:22pm
78 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 9, 2014 1:25:58pm

re: #75 Bulworth

re:
#65

Unlike proper agitators, I mean Defenders of American Freedom and Liberty, who instead of planning riots, plan Operation American Springs where they’ll march into Washington, D.C. and overthrow an elected government.

What’s the difference between Democratic leaning protests, and Republican leaning ones? The Democratic ones actually have people show up.

RBS

79 aagcobb  Oct 9, 2014 1:27:37pm

re: #7 The War TARDIS

OT, but I found this.

Ted Nugent’s latest rant: There are no poor in America, and vampire wolves are coming

Considering his odd habits in the past, could he have neurosyphilis?

I bet vampire wolves have wings. What stops bad vampire wolves with wings? Good guys with stakes!

80 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 1:27:39pm

re: #77 Kragar

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But I bet their party invites dry up. The horror!!!

81 sagehen  Oct 9, 2014 1:28:44pm

re: #80 allegro

But I bet their party invites dry up. The horror!!!

They don’t need invites; they weren’t invited to this party either.

82 Stanley Sea  Oct 9, 2014 1:28:49pm

re: #65 lawhawk

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Professional agitators… as opposed to professional derpologists like Hoft and CCJ.

Because it’s far easier for Hoft and the smear mongers to go after people peacefully protesting against injustices and for Hoft and the other smear mongers to attack the victims of police brutality/excessive force without an actual shred of evidence (see Brown, Michael).

The guy with the umbrella shirt says “unarmed civilian”

83 allegro  Oct 9, 2014 1:29:55pm

re: #81 sagehen

They don’t need invites; they weren’t invited to this party either.

Good point.

84 b.d.  Oct 9, 2014 1:30:04pm
85 b.d.  Oct 9, 2014 1:30:49pm

re: #84 b.d.

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Rightwing nut job writers retractions in never minus 0

86 Stanley Sea  Oct 9, 2014 1:30:51pm

Gah some days I got no grammar.

87 The War TARDIS  Oct 9, 2014 1:31:59pm

I am honestly scared of the Republicans gaining the Senate.

At this point, I think the Democrats should, if they can get power back, jack up the number of immigrants coming into the US, up the number of T51 Visas, and flood Republican areas with Immigrants to deny them a voice.

88 Romantic Heretic  Oct 9, 2014 1:32:59pm
Language is a weapon in the battle against the threat we face.

It is. Allow me to fire the opening volley.

Ahem.

Shut yer festering gob, ya pointy headed twit.

89 klys  Oct 9, 2014 1:33:42pm

Some nerd humor.

90 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 9, 2014 1:35:36pm

At some point can we don some epistemological grown-up pants and admit that religion as an abstraction is close to meaningless? It is always bounded by culture, economics, and the other variables of zeitgeist and ortgeist. The Middle East is predominantly Islamic. It is also post-colonial, divided between dictators and monarchs, its socioeconomics disproportionately infused with oil money. Its politics are colored by the aftermath of the Ottomans; Sykes-Picot; the US-USSR Cold War and the interlaced Saudi-USSR-Iran Cold War; the Iraqi Wars; the Arab Spring. If you are trying to characterize the region, or its people, or its troubles exclusively in terms of the former (Islam), without addressing all of the latter, you’re less interested in truth than selling something.

Religion cannot be extracted from its performance, and its performance by any given individual is a messy arithmetic of acculturation, personality, and relative availability of contrasting ideas . A wicked person will find a home within faith for their brand of wickedness. And more tragically, an otherwise good person will accommodate wickedness because they are desperate, afraid, or simply unaware that they have other options.

There is no such thing as a True Muslim, or a True Christian. Nor is there a inherent “spirit” to any religion that makes it inherently noble such that any given practitioner can’t be a monster, or just plain a bastard.

What ISIS and Islamophobes have in common is a hatred of complexity and context. The simple narrative—this is True Islam, fight or submit—is a con. They both need a frightened audience that isn’t thinking deeply.

91 Editor in Chief  Oct 9, 2014 1:36:20pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Gah some days I got no grammar.

My grammar and grampar died years ago.

92 klys  Oct 9, 2014 1:36:47pm

re: #87 The War TARDIS

I am honestly scared of the Republicans gaining the Senate.

At this point, I think the Democrats should, if they can get power back, jack up the number of immigrants coming into the US, up the number of T51 Visas, and flood Republican areas with Immigrants to deny them a voice.

You know, that’s part of what the Republicans are trying to do to Democrats. Which is wrong.

93 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 1:37:30pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Hmmmm religious right, you may have a new friend in your crusade against the Homosexual Agenda there.//

But they’re MUSLIMS!

94 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 1:41:20pm

re: #87 The War TARDIS

I am honestly scared of the Republicans gaining the Senate.

At this point, I think the Democrats should, if they can get power back, jack up the number of immigrants coming into the US, up the number of T51 Visas, and flood Republican areas with Immigrants to deny them a voice.

Not this shit again.

Deliberately screwing with the demographics for partisan purposes is not an acceptable option.

More generally, taking shortcuts in the struggle against atavism is usually: 1) unacceptable on its face, and 2) as a practical matter, often leads to blowback that can increase atavist political power.

95 Patricia Kayden  Oct 9, 2014 1:42:39pm

re: #51 dog philosopher

i like a little humor break ever oncet and a while

[George] Will slapped together a column this morning hyping a potential Christie run in 2016, writing that Christie “radiates serenity,” pairs “occasional pugnacity” with a “sedate, diplomatic manner,” and is a “zestful political combatant.”

I wouldn’t mind a Christie run either. It would be great for Hilary. If that is the best potential candidate for the GOP, they really are in trouble in 2016.

96 Patricia Kayden  Oct 9, 2014 1:45:28pm

re: #87 The War TARDIS

I am honestly scared of the Republicans gaining the Senate.

At this point, I think the Democrats should, if they can get power back, jack up the number of immigrants coming into the US, up the number of T51 Visas, and flood Republican areas with Immigrants to deny them a voice.

Or Democrats could just win big like they did in 2008. I’m not sure why Dems don’t come out in mid-term elections, but that has got to change. The 2010 elections put Republicans in power and they gerrymandered the hell out of so many states that they’ll have control of the House for years to come. It’s a shame.

97 CuriousLurker  Oct 9, 2014 1:51:33pm

OFFS. I just want to point out that I’m well aware that the hate flows in both directions. It’s gotten absurd—apparently, now anyone you disagree with is ISIS/IL.

In my #33 I mentioned that Netanyahu said Hamas = ISIS (on 9/29).

Warning: Don’t read the replies to any of the tweets below or look at the #JSIL hastag if you want to continue to believe there’s hope for humanity.

On 10/2 this gets tweeted.

By 10/8, it’s this (Khalek & Blumenthal are friends and appear to have been trying to get the #JSIL hashtag trending).

By 10/9, this

It’s all just so stupid.

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Note: Edited to remove the actual tweets—too offensive.

98 CriticalDragon1177  Oct 9, 2014 3:40:35pm

re: #97 CuriousLurker

WOW. That is out there.

99 Swift2991  Oct 9, 2014 5:36:50pm

Why is it red diaper babies like Horowitz seem to always go hard right? You scarcely ever see somebody brought up by communists — not a smear, just the facts — who turns into a moderate, either right or left. I think it’s because the right gives its believers much the same kind of idea that they’re creating a utopia— in the one case by killing the czar, and in the other by becoming a member of his secret police? Stalinist capitalism is pretty scary.


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