Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Wisconsin’s Right Wing Voter ID Law - Update: Voter ID Also Blocked in Texas

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Great news from the Supreme Court for a change: a late-night order blocking the implementation of Wisconsin’s Republican-sponsored voter ID law.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday night blocked Wisconsin from implementing its new voter identification law on the eve of next month’s elections.

In a related action, a district court judge in Texas ruled that state’s voter ID law is racially discriminatory and violates the Voting Rights Act. Both states had claimed the new rules were intended to crack down on in-person voter fraud — voters impersonating others at the polls.

The Supreme Court’s order reverses a trend established by the justices in two other cases from Ohio and North Carolina, in which they allowed voting restrictions imposed by Republican legislatures to take effect.

UPDATE at 10/9/14 6:49:24 pm by Charles Johnson

The right wing in Texas also suffered a major setback in their voter suppression efforts today: Federal Court Blocks Texas Voter ID Law, Calling It a ‘Poll Tax’.

WASHINGTON — A federal judge in Texas struck down the state’s voter ID law on Thursday, calling the measure an “unconstitutional poll tax” that creates “an unconstitutional burden on the right to vote” intended to discriminate against Hispanic and African-American citizens.

In a 147-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos, an appointee of President Barack Obama confirmed to the bench in 2011, ruled that the law passed by Texas legislators and signed by Gov. Rick Perry (R) took an “unorthodox” approach they knew would have a disparate impact on minority voters. The law would require voters to produce government-issued identification before casting a ballot.

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94 comments
1 teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2014 6:51:09pm

Voter fraud is non-existent in the United States today, something like 15 votes out of a billion cast, or some such statistic.

I’m not sure where I read it, but more than a few of those instances involved Republicans perpetrating voter fraud.

It’s simply a way to prevent blahs, the poors and pinko commie college students from voting, that’s all.

2 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 6:51:47pm

3 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 6:52:44pm

COOL!

4 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 6:53:32pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Voter fraud is non-existent in the United States today, something like 15 votes out of a billion cast, or some such statistic.

I’m not sure where I read it, but more than a few of those instances involved Republicans perpetrating voter fraud.

It’s simply a way to prevent blahs, the poors and pinko commie college students from voting, that’s all.

what’s all this i hear about Voter Frogs?

5 stpaulbear  Oct 9, 2014 6:54:24pm

Yay. Now all we need is some indictments against Scotty and Wisconsin will be on the road to recovery.

6 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 6:54:48pm

If I’m reading the USA Today article right, the SCOTUS ruled 6-3. Roberts broke with conservative values and actually did something that didn’t fuck over minorities?

7 teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2014 6:55:47pm

re: #4 dog philosopher

what’s all this i hear about Voter Frogs?

I typed “voter frogs” into teh Googlez and I found this.

8 klys  Oct 9, 2014 6:56:01pm
Maher wants Americans to denounce Islam because while “all religions are stupid, Islam just happens to be the one right now, in this century, that’s most dangerous and violent.” That’s a wild overgeneralization. “Islam” is not violent or peaceful, dangerous or benign. Like every great religion, it includes a vast array of diverse and often contradictory teachings, which different people interpret in different ways in different places and times. Yes, in some Muslim-majority countries, women and religious minorities are treated brutally. But that has far more to do with their particular national circumstances than with the fact that Muslims populate them. After all, other Muslim-majority countries have elected female heads of state. To lump together Indonesia and Yemen because both countries are mostly Muslim makes about as much sense as lumping together Ireland and the Dominican Republic because both countries are mostly Catholic.

Of course, this is just too much nuance and I’m bowing out of that conversation with bigots.

9 stpaulbear  Oct 9, 2014 6:56:22pm

re: #6 Mattand

I hope it left Scalia in a sputtering, foaming rage.

10 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 6:56:45pm

I wonder what difference SCOTUS saw in the GOP voter suppression schemes it has struck down vs. the ones upheld.

It would be justified to strike down any GOP “voter fraud” legislation on its face.

11 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:00:11pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Voter fraud is non-existent in the United States today, something like 15 votes out of a billion cast, or some such statistic.

I’m not sure where I read it, but more than a few of those instances involved Republicans perpetrating voter fraud.

It’s simply a way to prevent blahs, the poors and pinko commie college students from voting, that’s all.

It was 31 instances of fraud out of one billion votes, some of the people voted multiple times and a couple involved more than one person. Your right about some being from republicans, one of them voted 15 times over three elections. He had multiple homes/voter registrations plus voted in his two of his relatives names.

12 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:01:00pm

re: #8 klys

Of course, this is just too much nuance and I’m bowing out of that conversation with bigots.

LOL, you may want to avoid PZ Myers’ Pharyngula blog today. He had a guest post from a guy putting as much blame on Affleck as Maher and Harris.

13 teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2014 7:01:33pm

re: #11 ausador

It was 31 instances of fraud out of one billion votes, some of the people voted multiple times and a couple involved more than one person. Your right about some being from republicans, one of them voted 15 times over three elections. He had multiple homes/voter registrations plus voted in his two of his relatives names.

Thank you for the clarification. I knew I wasn’t talking out of my ass.

;-D

14 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:01:57pm

re: #8 klys

It’s a complicated mess. One troublesome point is the widespread approval for punishment of blasphemy and apostasy in some Islamic countries.

This hardly proves that Islam is somehow uniquely a problem among world religions, but it is also not conducive to peaceful reform. Theocrats (of any religion) always regard dissent as blasphemy.

15 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:02:44pm

re: #12 Mattand

LOL, you may want to avoid PZ Myers’ Pharyngula blog today. He had a guest post from a guy putting as much blame on Affleck as Maher and Harris.

The back and forth in the comments there is worth reading, IMO.

16 klys  Oct 9, 2014 7:02:48pm

re: #12 Mattand

LOL, you may want to avoid PZ Myers’ Pharyngula blog today. He had a guest post from a guy putting as much blame on Affleck as Maher and Harris.

I avoid it pretty much all the time, so that won’t be hard.

I can’t imagine what it must be like for CL and our other Muslim posters to get to deal with shit like this all the time.

17 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 7:04:05pm


UK 1990

18 SteveMcGazi  Oct 9, 2014 7:04:32pm

I guess getting state issued ID to vote was sort of like having to get a government issued stamp to sell your tea.

19 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:05:50pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

The back and forth in the comments there is worth reading, IMO.

Sometimes. That group can get really nasty real fast, and I say that as someone who nominally is on their side. I once got attacked by some regulars for agreeing with something Myers said.

20 klys  Oct 9, 2014 7:07:56pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

It’s a complicated mess. One troublesome point is the widespread approval for punishment of blasphemy and apostasy in some Islamic countries.

This hardly proves that Islam is somehow uniquely a problem among world religions, but it is also not conducive to peaceful reform. Theocrats (of any religion) always regard dissent as blasphemy.

I see that as predominantly a problem with fundamentalism, not the religion in question. I mean, it’s not like Christianity has a great record in that arena either.

21 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:10:21pm

re: #19 Mattand

Sometimes. That group can get really nasty real fast, and I say that as someone who nominally is on their side. I once got attacked by some regulars for agreeing with something Myers said.

To clarify, I meant that the back and forth on this particular article was worth reading (as opposed to the pointless viciousness that’s a bit too common there).

22 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:11:57pm

I look at all this voter repression stuff in other states and wonder if Christie would pull that here in NJ if he could get away with it.

I saw someone on TV recently point out that in order to succeed, Republicans count on people not showing at the polls. That’s really messed up when you think about it; they have so little confidence in their platform that they work to prevent people from showing up.

23 jamesfirecat  Oct 9, 2014 7:12:28pm

re: #20 klys

I see that as predominantly a problem with fundamentalism, not the religion in question. I mean, it’s not like Christianity has a great record in that arena either.

It’s a problem with extremism and dogmatism in general, mindless Ayn Rand following libertarians often seem detrimental to the creation of a healthy society though that is typically through economic rather than physical means.

24 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 7:12:55pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

I wonder what difference SCOTUS saw in the GOP voter suppression schemes it has struck down vs. the ones upheld.

Irreparable harm. The problem with letting the Wisconsin rule change go into effect during the actual administration of an election was that some ballots have already been mailed out and back. This would have created a situation where people who thought they’d already cast their ballots legally would have had to go down to their precinct / county clerks office and show a photo ID there in order to validate those vote by mail ballots.

UPDATED: Photo ID required

Even worse, clerks had already mailed out over 11,000 ballots to absentee voters before Wisconsin re-implemented the law. These ballots do not include instructions on including a photo ID.

25 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:13:44pm

re: #22 Mattand

I look at all this voter repression stuff in other states and wonder if Christie would pull that here in NJ if he could get away with it.

I someone on TV recently point out that in order to succeed, Republicans count on people not showing at the polls. That’s really messed up when you think about it; they have so little confidence in their platform that they work to prevent people from showing up.

Of course. Their actual policies are only of benefit to the top fraction of a %, so the only people they want to see at the polls are Fox News zombies that will crawl over broken glass to vote against their own interests (especially in midterm elections).

26 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:14:49pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

Irreparable harm. The problem with letting the Wisconsin rule change go into effect during the actual administration of an election was that some ballots have already been mailed back. This would have created a situation where people who thought they’d already cast their ballots legally would have had to go down to their precinct / county clerks office and show a photo ID there in order to validate those vote by mail ballots.

Maddow covered that on last night’s show and that was my reaction: what’s the point of an absentee ballot if you still have to drag your butt home to prove you’re you?

27 Jenner7  Oct 9, 2014 7:17:21pm
28 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 7:17:22pm

re: #8 klys

I just looked at that & smh.

Charles, is there anyway we could script something so that every time a given poster’s name came up it got an automatic downding from the scrip owner?

//// Sort of. I only have so many heartbeats left and there are some people just not worth wasting them on.

29 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 7:18:57pm

The Fox News stylebook

30 teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2014 7:20:16pm

re: #27 Jenner7

Jim Hoft is having a rage seizure trying to type out his semi-literate post about this.

31 klys  Oct 9, 2014 7:21:25pm

re: #28 William Barnett-Lewis

I just looked at that & smh.

Charles, is there anyway we could script something so that every time a given poster’s name came up it got an automatic downding from the scrip owner?

//// Sort of. I only have so many heartbeats left and there are some people just not worth wasting them on.

I have other stuff to deal with tonight and this weekend it is off to the UP of Michigan to visit the baby sister before she graduates (because I promised) so I am going to focus on positive stuff at this point.

But I’m privileged to be able to do that and not have to deal with the consequences of that kind of bullshit, and I should know that too.

32 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:21:43pm

Well this has got to be good news for Chuck Johnson and Jim Hoft, now they can keep making up stories based on innuendo and third hand anecdotes about the “massive democrat voting fraud.”

33 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 9, 2014 7:21:45pm

Night Lizards.

All I need is a blue speedo and a red cap.

34 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 7:22:25pm

re: #27 Jenner7

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Though I am a vet and I fly the flag every day, I can understand this. I wonder if the flag I served under covers my Vietnamese boy as well as it does me…

35 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 7:22:33pm

re: #26 Mattand

Maddow covered that on last night’s show and that was my reaction: what’s the point of an absentee ballot if you still have to drag your butt home to prove you’re you?

Right. In any event the law was completely redundant.

The federal Help America Vote Act (section 15483(b)(2)(A)) mandates that all states require identification from first-time voters who register to vote by mail and have not provided verification of their identification at the time of registration. The act lists a “current and valid photo identification” or “a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter” as acceptable forms of ID.

Republicans either don’t know or don’t want to know that nobody ever gets to vote without showing documented proof of who they are. That proof may have been established in years past, but it absolutely does get established.

36 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:25:27pm
37 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 7:27:43pm

I almost expect the GOP’s next move to be requiring registrations be submitted 30 years before election day.

38 PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2014 7:28:47pm

Earlier this year PA voter ID law was struck down and I posted this page. littlegreenfootballs.com

There is still talk of reviving this nasty piece of legislation. I do not want that to happen.

39 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:31:14pm
40 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:31:45pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

Earlier this year PA voter ID law was struck down and I posted this page. littlegreenfootballs.com

There is still talk of reviving this nasty piece of legislation. I do not want that to happen.

I’m guessing in about four weeks you PA folk won’t have to worry about a GOP governor signing something like that.

41 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:32:25pm

This is the entire article:

ISIS terrorists continue their siege of Kobane, Syria.
On Friday they released photos of dead female Peshmerga soldiers.
**PHOTOS OF DEAD**

Barack Obama is at a DNC fundraiser tonight.

More photos of dead female soldiers below the fold.
**MORE PHOTOS OF DEAD IN A TWEET**

Fucking ghoul…

42 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 7:32:55pm

1964 NAACP comic book, drawn by Larry Lieber of Marvel Comics fame.

43 PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2014 7:35:22pm

re: #40 Mattand

If PA voters are using their collective gray matter there is a good possibility of that happening.

44 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:35:28pm

September 22, 2014: Feds, state clash over Texas voter ID law

The Voter ID law is a “serious problem in search of a solution,” said Richard Dellheim, an attorney with the Justice Department. “That problem is that it violates the Voting Rights Act.”

State’s attorney Adam Aston responded to those claims by saying: “The potential for in-person voter fraud cannot be disputed” and that the state has a vested interest in making sure it doesn’t happen.

By that reasoning, Texas should invest in bear-proof polling places, because there is potential for bear invasion. Also bees.

45 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:37:01pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

I almost expect the GOP’s next move to be requiring registrations be submitted 30 years before election day.

Or require registration within 30 days of birth, “What? Your parents didn’t register you? Well that’s too bad son, guess you’ll never be able to vote now.”

46 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:38:47pm
47 dog philosopher  Oct 9, 2014 7:39:45pm

freepers reaction:

The state of Texas should just go ahead and ignore the ruling. If Obama can do, so can everybody else. I can of wish I was the governor of some state right now.

…

Fine - I don’t have to show any ID to buy a gun. Voting is not a right explicitly protected by the Constitution, keeping and bearing arms is. Screw you judge.

…

now they’ll have to manufacture a poll where Davis is within a couple of points of Abbott…probably from PPP.. and then the fraud can really commence

…

Same for Wisconsin tonight too. Real close governor race here. No ID means the unions bus voters up from Chicago to Racine and Kenosha. Massive fraud, but we can’t prove it. No IDs needed.

…

Just ignore this silly POS…he has no standing.

48 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 7:39:56pm

Good.

Voter ID laws are a crock. They’re designed by the GOP to disenfranchise people. It’s good to see the courts pushing back.

49 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:40:06pm

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

If PA voters are using their collective gray matter there is a good possibility of that happening.

Heh, the Inquirer reported today that Christie is still stumping for Corbett. Given a lot of PA residents’ view towards NJ, I can only imagine that’s doing more harm than good.

50 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:40:26pm

re: #44 jaunte

By that reasoning, Texas should invest in bear-proof polling places, because there is potential for bear invasion. Also bees.

That reasoning has all sorts of uses: “The potential for massive acts of stupidity from GOP elected officials in TX cannot be disputed. The state therefore has a vested interest in providing improved public notice of this fact. Requiring the GOP delegation of the state legislature to show up for sessions in clown suits with rubber noses is a reasonable measure to provide said notice.”

51 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:41:30pm

Texas voter ID law blocked by federal judge

“…College students IDs aren’t accepted by poll workers, but concealed handgun licenses are. Free voting IDs offered by the state require a birth certificate that costs little as $3, but the Justice Department argued that traveling to get those documents imposes an outsize burden on poor minorities.

As a result, opponents say, Texas has issued fewer than 300 free voter IDs since the law took effect. Georgia, meanwhile, has issued 2,200 voter IDs under a similar program with more robust outreach.”

52 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:42:47pm
53 WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2014 7:43:37pm

re: #45 ausador

Or require registration within 30 days of birth, “What? Your parents didn’t register you? Well that’s too bad son, guess you’ll never be able to vote now.”

And only by republican parents.

54 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 7:45:43pm
55 The War TARDIS  Oct 9, 2014 7:46:52pm

Stupid Editorial in 3, 2, 1….

Why the rise of cosplay is a bad sign for the U.S. economy

I don’t think the MTV Generation understands the Millennials.

56 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:50:25pm

re: #55 The War TARDIS

The American Enterprise Institute could probably save a lot of money if they crowdsourced his next column-writing assignment.

57 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 9, 2014 7:51:48pm

I’m pretty sure that the wingnut “you have disappointed me for the last time, now I have given up on you, you’re awful and get what you deserve” post is a transliteration of the mild sub-dom routine they pay their hooker an extra $50 to play out.

$70 if they wear the tie-die shirt.

58 Romantic Heretic  Oct 9, 2014 7:51:52pm

re: #47 dog philosopher

freepers reaction:Fine - I don’t have to show any ID to buy a gun. Voting is not a right explicitly protected by the Constitution, keeping and bearing arms is. Screw you judge.

Christ, these freepers are ignorant. I’m afraid it is, jackass. Article 1, Section 4.

I found that with a simple search and two clicks. That this pinhead couldn’t (or couldn’t be bothered) shows what ignorant, stupid people they are.

59 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 7:52:50pm

re: #56 jaunte

The American Enterprise Institute could probably save a lot of money if they crowdsourced his next column-writing assignment.

My dog has a few free minutes tomorrow, between napping and licking himself. Which is probably more research than James Pethokoukis did for his editorial.

60 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:54:36pm

re: #56 jaunte

The American Enterprise Institute could probably save a lot of money if they crowdsourced his next column-writing assignment.

It was a feeble effort. I suppose this snippet:

Now, this is a future of what might be, not what must be. A U.S. economy with fewer barriers to startups, modernized infrastructure, and a better educated workforce could be more dynamic and prosperous for everybody. But that’s not where we’re heading.

is supposed to be RWNJ code-speak for tax cuts and deregulation that will supposedly lead to a utopia.

Conspicuously absent from this piece is the simple fact that the powers that be in the US have engineered a long-term labor over-supply in virtually all parts of the economy in order to maximize the rate of return on capital by screwing over labor.

61 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:57:20pm

re: #59 Mattand

My dog has a few free minutes tomorrow, between napping and licking himself. Which is probably more research James Pethokoukis did for his editorial.

How dare you diss the DeWitt Wallace Fellow at the AEI. He even runs the AEIdeas blog !!!!!!

Talk about an easy job —- the only ideas AEI cares about are tax cuts and deregulation.

62 Kragar  Oct 9, 2014 7:57:39pm

I can’t imagine why a party as broad minded and inclusive, with so many great ideas attracting youths and minorities, would seek to limit voting?

63 ausador  Oct 9, 2014 7:58:23pm

New wrinkle to the Texas ruling…

Supreme Court partially gutted Voting Rights Act last year by declaring one of the methods (section 4) for determining States/counties that section 5 should apply to invalid. It did not declare section 5 itself invalid, under section 3 a judge can order compliance with section 5 due to purposefully discriminatory practices.

Section 5 requires that the entity in question obtain permission from the Justice Department before changing voting practices.

64 jaunte  Oct 9, 2014 7:59:03pm

Of course he’s immediately appealing the voter ID ruling.

Abbott Cover-up Uncovered

“…News reports now detail that Greg Abbott was engaged in a cover-up to prevent the discovery that nearly a quarter of a billion dollars in taxpayer money kept within the Texas Enterprise Fund was funneled to businesses without proper review and, in most cases, without even a formal application being submitted. Abbott himself has taken more than $1.4 million in campaign contributions from those who have received improper payments from the Texas Enterprise Fund.

To put the Abbott/Perry Texas Enterprise cover-up into perspective, it is a massive defrauding of Texas taxpayers. This Abbott/Perry corporate welfare scam is no different than corrupt bureaucrats conspiring to give over $200 million in food stamps to people who never applied or proved they met the qualifications for taxpayer assistance.”
lonestarproject.net

65 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 7:59:28pm

re: #62 Kragar

I can’t imagine why a party as broad minded and inclusive, with so many great ideas attracting youths and minorities, would seek to limit voting?

It’s almost as if the “party of ideas” has run out of ideas.

66 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 8:00:50pm

Drawing by Yale Stewart

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 8:01:06pm

In West Virginia tonight:

First Same Sex Couple Weds in Cabell County

68 JamesWI  Oct 9, 2014 8:03:11pm

re: #47 dog philosopher

freepers reaction:

Fine - I don’t have to show any ID to buy a gun. Voting is not a right explicitly protected by the Constitution, keeping and bearing arms is. Screw you judge.

“Voting is not a right explicitly protected by the Constitution”…. lolwut? So I guess those six Amendments that explicitly protect the right to vote don’t count?

69 Jenner7  Oct 9, 2014 8:04:36pm

re: #34 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s the most American thing to do, IMO. We have to hold this country accountable for it’s sins. The flag represents exactly the actions they are taking tonight.

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 8:07:41pm

Jan Hooks dies at 57; gifted comedy actress on ‘SNL’

71 Dark_Falcon  Oct 9, 2014 8:09:13pm

My newest page is about a very dishonest Pat Quinn campaign ad. The ad has run on TV in Illinois; That’s where I first saw it. My page only links to the ad via YouTube. There are no links to nor quotes from National Review or any other conservative site or publication. This Page only features the ad and my analysis of it.

Please judge this Page for my own efforts only, as I have taken care to avoid any hint of wingnuttery.

72 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 8:10:39pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

I do NOT agree with your post. Not in the slightest.

73 Lidane  Oct 9, 2014 8:10:41pm

re: #55 The War TARDIS

Why the rise of cosplay is a bad sign for the U.S. economy

That article in a nutshell:

That guy has no fucking clue what he’s talking about. Pfft.

74 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 8:11:09pm

And yes, I’m going to down-ding every time you try to promote it.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2014 8:12:23pm

niterz…

76 WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2014 8:12:53pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

How dare you diss the DeWitt Wallace Fellow at the AEI. He even runs the AEIdeas blog !!!!!!

Talk about an easy job —- the only ideas AEI cares about are tax cuts and deregulation.

AND, he’s written for the National Review and The Weekly Standard, which makes him very special.

77 withak  Oct 9, 2014 8:13:44pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

I thought I recognized the art there. Same guy who draws JL8. It’s fantastic.

78 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 8:15:34pm

re: #73 Lidane

COSTUMES!!! JAPAN!!! DRUIDS!!! FROGS & SNAKES CO-HABITATING!!!

79 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 8:16:20pm

In St. Louis:

80 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 8:17:48pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

I seriously wonder why you’re still trying to promote these insane right wing memes at LGF.

81 Dark_Falcon  Oct 9, 2014 8:19:13pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

My reply:

In blackest day, in brightest night,
Beware your fears made into light
Let those who try to stop what’s right,
Burn like his power… Sinestro’s might!

Source.

82 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 8:20:22pm

re: #79 nsmith25

83 Varek Raith  Oct 9, 2014 8:20:58pm

re: #82 nsmith25

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The hell is going on?

84 Dark_Falcon  Oct 9, 2014 8:21:38pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

I seriously wonder why you’re still trying to promote these insane right wing memes at LGF.

Sir, this no right-wing meme. I saw the ad on TV last night, and this is my response to it. I did not reply on any right-wing site in composing my page on the ad.

This one is not ‘the right’. This is me and me alone.

85 Mattand  Oct 9, 2014 8:22:24pm

It is really starting to sound like it is literally life-threatening to be black and live in the St. Louis area.

86 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 8:23:08pm

DF my nic is blue, drop me an email.

87 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 9, 2014 8:23:52pm

re: #86 William Barnett-Lewis

DF my nic is blue, drop me an email.

Argh. Trying again.

88 goddamnedfrank  Oct 9, 2014 8:24:05pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

89 nsmith25  Oct 9, 2014 8:24:25pm

re: #83 Varek Raith

The hell is going on?

Another St. Louis police shooting. Black male shot for apparently no reason again. Marching for Justice. Police go crazy, wash, rinse, repeat.

90 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2014 8:29:55pm

Sunset this evening was nice, the light caught this flower just right.

91 Dark_Falcon  Oct 9, 2014 8:33:52pm

re: #87 William Barnett-Lewis

Argh. Trying again.

Sorry, but I use Hotmail so I can’t open the link.

92 De Kolta Chair  Oct 9, 2014 8:39:07pm

re: #77 withak

I thought I recognized the art there. Same guy who draws JL8. It’s fantastic.

He’s terrific.

93 lostlakehiker  Oct 9, 2014 8:52:10pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Voter fraud is non-existent in the United States today, something like 15 votes out of a billion cast, or some such statistic.

I’m not sure where I read it, but more than a few of those instances involved Republicans perpetrating voter fraud.

It’s simply a way to prevent blahs, the rich, the poors, the tea partiers, and pinko commie college students, and anybody else from voting twice that’s all.

Twice.

94 KiTA  Oct 10, 2014 4:10:17am

Really bad news for the GOP in Texas. If they can’t sabotogue the vote, they’re going to see Texas become a swing state soon — or even, gasp, go blue! Egad.


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