How to Survive in an Age of Ebola and Right Wing Panic

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Every time you think the right wing screamers have reached a fever pitch, they find a new way to become more shrill and less connected to the facts and reality. The ongoing Ebola outbreak in West Africa and the possibility that someone might be able to bring the disease into the United States (knowingly or unknowingly) has pushed the right wing into new and ever more dangerous territory. It’s fertile ground with the right wing already predisposed to being anti-science, and hits all the right’s notes with xenophobia and racism.

I’ve posted about right wing hysterics from the likes of Matt Drudge, touting baseless claims that illegal aliens are bringing in diseases (like Enterovirus D68, which was first identified in the US in 1962). Jim Hoft has repeatedly posted along the same lines.

He’s again posting nonsense such as…

and

and

Never mind that the second tweet is so easily debunked; there hasn’t been any second case of confirmed Ebola in the US. Duncan was the only case so far — and anyone else who has been tracked or isolated was out of an abundance of caution. But that didn’t stop Hoft from hysterically alleging a second case with a deputy officer, that was not a case at all.

So, here’s a few more tidbits of information, applying to both the ongoing Enterovirus D68 outbreak and the Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

Enterovirus D68 has sent more people to the hospital and killed more people in the US than the single case of Ebola.

Influenza has killed more people in the US (and more pediatric deaths for the 2013-2014 season) and poses a much greater risk to everyone in the country than Ebola. Of course, there’s a way to reduce the risk of getting influenza (vaccination), but that’s a topic for another post.

So far, the CDC has fielded thousands of calls about potential cases. There have been hundreds of potential cases identified, and all but one has turned out to be a false alarm. Ebola isn’t easy to get, and it is impossible to get if you haven’t come in contact with someone showing the active symptoms.

But according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Ebola poses “no significant threat” to the United States. That’s primarily because it isn’t easy to catch Ebola. Unlike, say, the plague, which spreads easily via tick bites—or swine flu, bird flu and SARS, which are airborne—transmission of Ebola requires direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person: blood, vomit, feces, semen, saliva or sweat. And only someone displaying symptoms can transmit the virus; those infected but not showing symptoms are not contagious.

Note too that there are some skeptics and researchers who think that the Black Death that swept across much of Europe in the Middle Ages was the result of an Ebola-like virus, and not the disease long associated with tick bites fleas and rats (see the Update below).

Meanwhile, as to the right wing talking points about the ease with which illegal aliens or ISIS could cross the border and infect people, the CDC has 20 sites around the country in high volume ports of call to operate quarantines. These quarantine centers are public knowledge and are fully staffed at all times.

U.S. Quarantine Stations are part of a comprehensive system that serves to limit the introduction and spread of contagious diseases in the United States. U.S. Quarantine Stations are located at 20 ports of entry and land-border crossings where international travelers arrive (see map below).

They are staffed with medical and public health officers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and managed by CDC’s Division of Global Migration and Quarantine. These health officers decide whether ill persons can enter the United States and what measures should be taken to prevent the spread of contagious diseases.

There are locations in Anchorage, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Honolulu, El Paso, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Newark, New York City, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, and Minneapolis. They also operate a facility in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

The CDC can quarantine persons showing symptoms for any of the following diseases: Cholera, Diphtheria, Infectious tuberculosis, Plague, Smallpox, Yellow fever, Viral hemorrhagic fevers, severe acute respiratory syndromes, and new types of flu (influenza) that could cause a pandemic.

That list therefore includes Ebola (as a viral hemorrhagic fever).

It’s also interesting to note that the number of quarantine centers dropped from 55 to 8 during the 1970s because it was believed that infectious diseases were a thing of the past. That turned out to be way off the mark. The number of centers was increased to 20 by 2007 as a result of the 9/11 terror attacks, the anthrax attacks, and the SARS outbreak in 2003.

Mind you, there is a possibility that additional Ebola cases could occur — whether as part of the contact tracing with Mr. Duncan or with a new source arriving from West Africa.

Health professionals know what they’re up against here in the US. The concern shouldn’t be about an outbreak of cases here in the US, but rather in other parts of the Third World where the health infrastructure simply can’t handle the strain of this kind of outbreak. You want a worst case scenario? If cases begin showing up in Haiti in the Western Hemisphere or elsewhere in Africa or Asia, you’ll have it.

But the best way to prevent the spread of Ebola beyond West Africa’s borders is to stop the outbreak at the source. That means convincing Republicans like Sen. David Vitter of the absolute necessity to release the funds necessary to get the US aid mission all the support needed.

Writing to the members of the Senate Appropriations and Armed Services Committees, Vitter urged, “I ask you to oppose fully allowing the additional $1 billion in reprogramming requests until previously requested additional information is available for members of Congress to be fully briefed.” Vitter went on to assail the White House plan because, he wrote, it “focuses on Africa, and largely ignores our own borders.”

Right. It focuses on Africa because that’s where the outbreak is occurring right now and the best way to stop it from entering the US is to stop it there. It’s called “containment.”

UPDATE at 10/9/14 6:29:05 pm by lawhawk


As lexalexander notes in the comments, ticks weren’t the vector for the plague. It was fleas (with an assist from rats). Newsweek got that wrong, and I’ve fixed my recitation of that - but have otherwise left the Newsweek quote as written.

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413 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 5:53:37pm

Great post!

Our pal Chuck C. has been trying to fear-monger about those quarantine centers by the way; check out this ridiculous post:

donotlink.com

He’s ranting that there’s only quarantine station along the southern border — well, yes, because most of them are located at international travel hubs, where an outbreak would be most likely to spread. There hasn’t been a single verified case of an epidemic coming through the border with Mexico. This is pure baseless fear-mongering.

2 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 5:55:17pm

By the way, I swapped your title and subtitle, because the subtitle was a lot more catchy as a title!

3 Vogon Poetry  Oct 9, 2014 5:59:09pm

That’s not a problem.

4 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 6:00:55pm

Also just added an image from Shutterstock. Everything’s better with images.

5 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 6:04:13pm

I’ll be promoting this one soon…

6 lexalexander  Oct 9, 2014 6:18:32pm

One tiny nit to pick: Ticks didn’t spread plague. Fleas did.

7 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 6:22:31pm

re: #6 lexalexander

One tiny nit to pick: Ticks didn’t spread plague. Fleas did.

Fleas and rats.

8 Vogon Poetry  Oct 9, 2014 6:23:52pm

re: #6 lexalexander

I thought that looked funny in the Newsweek article (where the quote comes from). But you’re right. It’s fleas that are considered the vector for the plague.

9 Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2014 6:29:00pm

I think the Newsweek article is referring to bubonic plague, which is spread by ticks.

10 EPR-radar  Oct 9, 2014 6:48:18pm

The RWNJ search for scapegoats proceeds apace.

US conservatism literally has no policy to offer except: Fear, hate and kill the ____, while the oligarchs tighten their grip.

11 lostlakehiker  Oct 9, 2014 9:16:11pm

Absolutely agree with everything here. The risk from Ebola is almost entirely that it will explode in places with very thin medical systems and very poor populations. Any outbreaks here will be stomped after very short transmission chains. Ideally, no further transmissions, but our own system isn’t entirely fumble proof so an occasional chain of 1 or even 2 might occur.

And if Ebola is somehow now, or somehow becomes, more dangerous, that’s all the more reason to pursue a LendLease strategy. Our neighbors’ houses are burning, and we have hoses. Watering our own roof is not the best use for the hose, not even the best way to protect our own house.

12 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 5:07:06am

[Ebola aid and prevention] focuses on Africa because that’s where the outbreak is occurring right now and the best way to stop it from entering the US is to stop it there. It’s called “containment.”

Problem is, it involves giving FREE STUFF to brown people, and there is a large faction in US politics that is totally opposed to any such idea.

13 BlueGrl21  Oct 10, 2014 5:11:17am

I consider these times of high right wing activity a boon because it flushes out the nasty ones. I get to clean up my Facebook friends list and figure out who I don’t have to go to dinner with anymore. This is an OPPORTUNITY if you’re an introvert!

14 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 5:12:06am

Iraq war was (and its consequences still are) far more deadly than Ebola.
Yet how many of today’s right-wing screamers voted for Bush exactly because they liked Ebola the war?

15 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 5:16:21am
By 2012, Yousafzai was planning to organize the Malala Education Foundation, which would help poor girls go to school.[39] In July of that year she participated in the national Marxist Summer School, and delivered a message to the 32nd congress of the Pakistani IMT which thanked them “for giving me a chance to speak last year at their Summer Marxist School in Swat and also for introducing me to Marxism and Socialism.”[31]

Any wingnuts screaming ‘bout this yet?

16 Dark_Falcon  Oct 10, 2014 5:17:42am

re: #14 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Iraq war was (and its consequences still are) far more deadly than Ebola.
Yet how many of today’s right-wing screamers voted for Bush exactly because they liked Ebola the war?

That’s really an oranges to kiwi fruit comparison, though.

17 Dark_Falcon  Oct 10, 2014 5:19:50am

re: #15 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Any wingnuts screaming ‘bout this yet?

Not screaming, but I really hope Malala doesn’t fall into the tar pit that is Marxism. If she becomes ideological, she’ll find her support much more limited thererafter.

18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 5:20:21am

Ebola has everything needed to tap into the wellsprings of xenophobia, racism and incoherent rage that the TPGOP has been nurturing for years.

19 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 5:21:55am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Not screaming, but I really hope Malala doesn’t fall into the tar pit that is Marxism. If she becomes ideological, she’ll find her support much more limited thererafter.

Yeah, Marxist little girls are just ever s0 slightly more deserving to get shot in the face.

20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 5:22:02am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Here’s the thing - the situation is so bad that spread of Marxism there might even be an improvement.

21 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 5:22:43am

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

That’s really an oranges to kiwi fruit comparison, though.

Sure. Both are edible fruits.

22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 5:24:34am

re: #20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s the thing - the situation is so bad that spread of Marxism there might even be an improvement.

Even Marxism is a step up from feudal warlords.

23 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 5:25:32am

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even Marxism is a step up from feudal warlords.

Not that it’s ever happened before …

24 Dark_Falcon  Oct 10, 2014 5:26:31am

re: #19 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, Marxist little girls are just ever s0 slightly more deserving to get shot in the face.

I didn’t say that. One can say “I no longer support this person because her ideology is one I think very wrong.” without thinking they deserved to be shot.

It’s called “good judgement” and just because wingnuts lack it doesn’t mean I have to lack it, too.

25 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 5:26:45am

re: #20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s the thing - the situation is so bad that spread of Marxism there might even be an improvement.

America’s foreign policy still bears the imprint of the Dulles Brothers nutsacks.

Anybody who mentions Marxism is magically hypnotized by Lenin’s beard, and inexorably drawn into the Communosphere. Because silly brown people couldn’t possibly only partially apply a socio-political system; they’re like that Star Trek planet that becomes a gangster world because of one pulp novel.

26 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 5:26:56am

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s not a guarantee against the feudal warlords (after all, what are DNR and LNR, that are so supported my many Marxists in Russia and worldwide?), but as long as it has a secularizing and egalitarian influence, it could be a net positive.

27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 5:27:42am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi

Not that it’s ever happened before …

in Afghanistan, we supported the feudal warlords over the Marxists in the 80’s…

28 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 5:42:34am

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

in Afghanistan, we supported the feudal warlords over the Marxists in the 80’s…

It’s been the traditional American foreign policy for decades — always oppose the commies, cuddle up next to the autocrats. Then, be totally surprised when the autocrats fuck us over.

29 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 5:43:48am

And that scary foreigner illegal alien spread disease that everyone is catching and dying of right now? How come every time they show someone with that scary illegal alien virus it is a white kid? Wouldn’t one assume that it would be some of those brown kids that have it too or are they just carriers?

//

30 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 5:46:18am

re: #29 b.d.

And that scary foreigner illegal alien spread disease that everyone is catching and dying of right now? How come every time they show someone with that scary illegal alien virus it is a white kid? Wouldn’t one assume that it would be some of those brown kids that have it too or are they just carriers?

//

It’s been genetically modified to target only white people, part of the great Obama plot to destroy American as We Know It.
//

31 A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2014 5:49:17am

People can, and do, take the best parts of different philosophies and apply them to their lives and government. Malala is also working to do some amazing things for girls worldwide, if that means talking to groups she may not always agree with, she’ll probably do that. Doesn’t mean she’s a Marxist.

Mike Rowe (of “Dirty Jobs” fame) has been doing a lot of work towards changing the attitudes of people about vocational schooling, as well as emphasizing that traditional college is really NOT for everyone, in fact it’s really only geared towards a small percentage of people. He’s talked to Glen Beck, Mitt Romney and other conservatives. Not because he is a conservative ( I don’t know or care his politics for this purpose) but because they were willing to listen and let him talk on their platforms.

In other words, when it’s important, you do whatever it takes to get your message for your cause out there. You don’t have to agree with every little thing to do that. That’s letting the perfect be the enemy of the good and it’s a ridiculous approach unless you want to accomplish zilch. We’re too fucking polarized on this planet, it has to stop somewhere.

32 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 6:04:50am

re: #30 wheat-dogghazi

It’s been genetically modified to target only white people, part of the great Obama plot to destroy American as We Know It.
//

That makes sense and sounds like something 0bummer would do.

//

33 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 6:06:01am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

[Ebola aid and prevention] focuses on Africa because that’s where the outbreak is occurring right now and the best way to stop it from entering the US is to stop it there. It’s called “containment.”

Problem is, it involves giving FREE STUFF to brown people, and there is a large faction in US politics that is totally opposed to any such idea.

Opposed to medical and humanitarian aid. Good odds that if we were giving* them military aid or nice shiny aircraft they’d be all for it.

* - Realization must be made that a lot of that military aid converts into corporation welfare for the US defense industry. The equipment is bought from the US companies and thus a lot of the funds essentially remain in the US. Plus you create customers for maintenance contracts, training, spare parts, and other things that need periodic replenishment.

34 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:07:25am

Mornin’ everyone…shall we talk about global warming?

35 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 6:09:30am

re: #31 A Mom Anon

Mike Rowe (of “Dirty Jobs” fame) has been doing a lot of work towards changing the attitudes of people about vocational schooling, as well as emphasizing that traditional college is really NOT for everyone, in fact it’s really only geared towards a small percentage of people.

I’m going to share a story with you. I have spent all my teaching career either with college-preparatory students or college students. One of my friends here teaches at a nearby vocational school. Her students are the kids who could not pass the high school entrance exam (Yes, they have those in China) and ended up in vo-tech school. Anyway, she invited me to visit her school and meet her students. They’re learning hairdressing and cosmetology. On the day I was there, their hairdressing teacher was giving his first lecture and demo. The intensity I saw among these students was jawdropping. Kids who hated school, who flunked their academic subjects, were pulling out pens and notebooks and hanging on his every word. They watched attentively as he showed how to massage heads and apply the shampoo, ease the person’s head up and down, the whole schmeer. They also enjoyed the lesson.

I gained a whole new respect for trade schools and their students.

36 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:09:39am

re: #31 A Mom Anon

Doesn’t mean she’s a Marxist.

I think the whole point is that it doesn’t matter if she is one.

37 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:10:13am
38 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:14:13am

Man makes Ebola joke on plane, woman overhears him, tells flight attendant, men in hazmat suits escort man off at airport as he protests, “I ain’t from Africa!”

39 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:16:06am

re: #37 darthstar

Youtube Video

40 BlueGrl21  Oct 10, 2014 6:19:44am

re: #32 b.d.

That makes sense and sounds like something 0bummer would do.

//

He’s tricksy.

41 WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2014 6:21:13am

re: #30 wheat-dogghazi

re: #32 b.d.

It’s terrifying how easy it is to do wingnut.

42 freetoken  Oct 10, 2014 6:22:19am

re: #31 A Mom Anon

re: #35 wheat-dogghazi

I think the big problem is how in our society we demean skilled, and what is sometimes called “semi-skilled”, work.

That’s yet one more reason why I dislike the you-have-to-go-to-college mantra - because it is a way of saying that if you don’t go to college then what you do doesn’t matter.

Furthermore, in our society we value so little the time of someone that we refuse to pay them a reasonable amount.

For any young person today I encourage the following - follow your heart. Do what interests or drives you.

43 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:23:40am

re: #39 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s animated? Cool.

44 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 6:24:09am

Dark_Falcon knows all about ideology. People around here remind him of it all the time!

/// That is meant as a joke Dark…please take it as such.

Oh yeah…morning all. Watched the first practice of the Russian Grand Prix race today in Sochi. Track runs around much of the Olympics ground.

Everyone seemed to be going through the motions though. All are concerned about the young driver hurt badly and in hospital in Japan with a serious head injury. Racing a week later isn’t enough time to get over the shock of it all.

45 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:25:27am

re: #43 darthstar

It’s animated? Cool.

I thought it was supposed to be a children’s cartoon!/

46 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 6:25:59am

re: #41 WhatEVs

It’s terrifying how easy it is to do wingnut.

That’s what happens when there is no thinking involved.

No, not you, the wingnuts! No real thinking…just kneejerks. Easy to mock.

47 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 6:26:03am

re: #34 darthstar

WOW! That’s absolutely wild. And yet that wont convince the right wingers who deny global warming is happening, or blame it on everything but human actions accelerating the change. Instead, they’ll point to discrete points on a map and say - it’s not warm here so global warming must be a lie.

They all seemingly ignore that global warming necessarily means global temperatures - air temperatures and ocean temperatures. Just because NYC has a cold snap in the summer (which for the past year actually meant being closer to historical moving average than the significantly above normal temperatures we’ve experienced over the past few years) doesn’t mean that global warming has stopped.

Just because the Southern Hemisphere has snowfall in July or August doesn’t mean global warming doesn’t exist. It’s winter in the Southern Hemisphere.

But the drought ravaging California and much of the Southwest through Texas should be a warning. The fact is that parts of the Northeast would be in a drought condition but for severe storms like Sandy, Irene, and others that have pumped massive flooding into the region to bring annual average rainfall to at or above normal while the rainfall the rest of the year has been below normal.

More severe weather. More extremes.

That’s global warming. And the right wing imperils everyone with their neo-Luddite / head in the sand approach to climatology (along with pretty much every other scientific discipline).

48 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 6:26:55am

re: #42 freetoken

From what I’ve observed, it’s possible to very successful in IT without a formal college degree. My stepson did one year of college, bailed out, ended up at a computer repair/sales place in our town, got A+ cert, then other certs over the years. Now he’s one of the lead guys in IT security at Humana, has a nice car, a condo, a rental property, and two dogs. He’ll be 35 next month.

49 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:27:12am
50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:27:46am

re: #34 darthstar

YEAH LETS TALK BOUT THAT GLOBULL WORMING OF YOUS
YOU SHOULD OF PAID MORE $$$ TO CAMERON BECUASE THESE FAKE 3D EFFECTS ARE SOOO FAKE YOU LIBTARD HAHAHA

How did I do, how did I do?

51 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 6:28:41am
52 WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2014 6:29:15am

re: #34 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone…shall we talk about global warming?

[Embedded content]

Cool! Now Greenland will have more land to develop. Free markets!! /

53 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:29:47am

re: #45 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I thought it was supposed to be a children’s cartoon!/

It is a children’s cartoon…but cartoons are written by adults, for adults…

54 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:30:31am

re: #50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

YEAH LETS TALK BOUT THAT GLOBULL WORMING OF YOUS
YOU SHOULD OF PAID MORE $$$ TO CAMERON BECAUSE THESE FAKE 3D EFFECTS ARE SOOO FAKE YOU LIBTARD HAHAHA

How did I do, how did I do?

Keep your day job.

55 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 6:33:58am

Please weigh-in.

I’ve decided that most of the Whacko Right is truly clue-less about sex.

How is your morning going?

56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 6:33:59am

re: #53 darthstar

It is a children’s cartoon…but cartoons are written by adults, for adults…

all the best cartoons are written that way, like Looney Tunes or Rocky and Bullwinkle

57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 6:37:02am

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Please weigh-in.

I’ve decided that most of the Whacko Right is truly clue-less about sex.

How is your morning going?

I will not go near the discussion of rape online. it is too full of nuances and too easy to have something taken out of context and blown up.

I remember an article by a fellow who started out by clearly stating that rape was bad and should not happen to anyone.

But then he tried to point out that it is full of nuances and degrees of complicity, and used the analogy that - although nobody deserves to get his car stolen - you share some complicity if you leave it unlocked with a laptop visible in a bad neighborhood.

What was the response? This fellow claims that GETTING RAPED IS NO WORSE THAN GETTING YOUR CAR STOLEN!!!

Forget it…

58 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 6:37:06am

Airlines battle Ebola, but that’s only because there’s a pretty good chance if you get the disease, you’ll die - even with the highest levels of care. Lost profits will force them to act more aggressively than they have even with MERS or SARS.

Yet, airlines do very little to sanitize planes from flight to flight. How can they when they have as little as 30-40 minutes in turnaround time between disembarking people and embarking new passengers.

The airlines will do just enough to give people the illusion of safety. And the government can and should do more to require the airlines to clean the planes not only to prevent the spread of Ebola, but other communicable diseases that are actually far easier to spread than Ebola. Norovirus, Enterovirus. Influenza. Etc.

That’s why there’s a focus on trying to keep people who might be showing symptoms from flying in the first place.

The IATA, FAA, and other national air safety agencies have a dual purpose - to promote the industry and to keep it safe - and that can put them at cross-purposes.

And that’s why the people who service the planes at each stop have reason to worry - they’re exposed to biohazards on a daily basis - a situation only made more dangerous by the current outbreak in West Africa.

59 darthstar  Oct 10, 2014 6:37:20am

Hey…a picture of Satty…I don’t think putting RIDDELL under the hair line was a smart move though.

60 Frenchy  Oct 10, 2014 6:38:10am

re: #47 lawhawk

Just because the Southern Hemisphere has snowfall in July or August doesn’t mean global warming doesn’t exist. It’s winter in the Southern Hemisphere.

Please tell me that someone has actually tried to point to July and August snowfall in the southern hemisphere as evidence against climate change.

61 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 6:38:52am

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi

From what I’ve observed, it’s possible to very successful in IT without a formal college degree. My stepson did one year of college, bailed out, ended up at a computer repair/sales place in our town, got A+ cert, then other certs over the years. Now he’s one of the lead guys in IT security at Humana, has a nice car, a condo, a rental property, and two dogs. He’ll be 35 next month.

My wife took a major completely unrelated to IT, but she was unusually adept at it. She dropped out of college, took a couple of admin jobs (one of which was where we met), landed at a software company that was bought by Microsoft, spent 7 years there and now is a project manager at a company that installs tracking systems on mass transit. She’ll be 40 next year (don’t tell her I told you that!)

62 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 6:40:27am
63 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 6:40:49am

re: #60 Frenchy

Yeah, they do.

donotlink.com

64 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:41:38am

Took this shot last night, worked it up for a certain look to tell a perticular story. Title-Re Write

Rewrite

65 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 6:42:41am

That drinking glass casts no shadow.

What devilry is this?

66 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 6:43:12am

re: #64 Rightwingconspirator

Took this shot last night, worked it up for a certain look to tell a perticular story. Title-Re Write

Rewrite

Label the glass “Derp” and you could caption it, “Rick Perry was here.”

;p

67 Frenchy  Oct 10, 2014 6:43:16am

re: #38 darthstar

People are overly panicked no doubt, but really how stupid do you have to be to get on a plane and make a “joke” about Ebola? It was probably about as funny as most AIDS “jokes” I’ve heard.

68 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:44:38am

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

Heh. Twilight.

69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 6:44:40am

re: #67 Frenchy

People are overly panicked no doubt, but really how stupid do you have to be to get on a plane and make a “joke” about Ebola? It was probably about as funny as most AIDS “jokes” I’ve heard.

I suspect that they wanted to make a high profile example of this guy should anyone else get the idea…

70 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 6:47:58am

Good morning Lizards!

Overcast and cool in lovely Philadelphia this morning. Rain should be coming in later today and will last over into the weekend.

Home laptop is current out of service. Battery under 10% and it won’t charge. So I have a defunct power cord/converter, bad power connector, or a dying battery. Given the age of the machine (~6 years) I figure any of them is possible. Will have to do some tests to see if I can narrow it down. And then look into what the repair/parts costs might be as compared to buying a new machine and then transferring everything to a new box.

71 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 6:48:16am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I suspect that they wanted to make a high profile example of this guy should anyone else get the idea…

Likewise, jokes about having a bomb in your baggage or a knife in your shoe don’t go over too well, either.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 6:49:01am

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi

Likewise, jokes about having a bomb in your baggage or a knife in your shoe don’t go over too well, either.

Gets into the general zone of yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater.

73 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 10, 2014 6:49:43am

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

Batteries go bad after a number of charging cycles. My Lenovo laptop’s battery poops out after 30 minutes now. Since it serves as my desktop, I don’t worry about it much.

74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 6:53:06am

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi

Batteries go bad after a number of charging cycles. My Lenovo laptop’s battery poops out after 30 minutes now. Since it serves as my desktop, I don’t worry about it much.

Ditto for my digital cam. Hope it’s not too old for me to find a replacement battery.

75 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 6:53:26am

Robert Reich’s fb post:

Pro-life Republicans have odd ways of expressing their values. Take, for example, Todd Kincannon, the former executive director of the South Carolina Republican party, who tweets that people infected with the Ebola virus “need to be humanely put down immediately.” (I’m not making this up. Check his twitter handle @Todd_Kincannon.) “The protocol for a positive Ebola test should be immediate execution and sanitation of the whole area. That will save lives.”

Ordinarily I wouldn’t repeat mindless drivel like this — except that in this case it’s coming from a former high-level official of the Republican Party in a Republican state. Which raises the question: What is happening to the Republican Party?

76 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 6:53:32am
77 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 6:53:50am

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi

Batteries go bad after a number of charging cycles. My Lenovo laptop’s battery poops out after 30 minutes now. Since it serves as my desktop, I don’t worry about it much.

I am hoping it’s just the battery. That is about the simplest solution for getting the machine back on its feet.

78 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 6:54:20am

80 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 6:58:28am

re:
#75

Ordinarily I wouldn’t repeat mindless drivel like this — except that in this case it’s coming from a former high-level official of the Republican Party in a Republican state. Which raises the question: What is happening to the Republican Party?

Turned psycho years ago.

81 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 6:59:12am

Todd Kincannon is officially a Nazi.

82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:01:49am

re: #80 Bulworth

re:
#75

Turned psycho years ago.

Repeat of numerous previous posts: they were too afraid of alienating their “base constituency” to challenge or at least distance themselves from the frothing loonies who showed up at Town Hall Meetings and starting going on about birtherism or death panels or secret Muslim affiliations.

That simply encouraged these loonies to get louder and more obnoxious and pretty soon their talking points became accepted parts of GOP policy.

83 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:02:47am
84 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:03:20am
85 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:04:54am
She cited a recent story that said local police report to the FBI the killing of at least 400 people per year. “From 2006 to 2012, a white police officer killed a black person at least twice a week in this country,” Harris-Perry said.

video at link

86 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:04:54am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

Where is Kim Jong Un? The intrigue around him deepened today after he missed a key ceremony

cheese poisoning?

87 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:05:08am
88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:05:32am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

They’re frantically searching for an overfed double. Which is a hard task in the North Korean Land of Plenty./

89 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 7:05:37am

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Please weigh-in.

I’ve decided that most of the Whacko Right is truly clue-less about sex.

How is your morning going?

Looking at how they view consent inside a relationship (marriage), I’d say it’s not about cluelessness, it’s about a conscious decision that what women want doesn’t matter. Have just been reading the blog No Longer Quivering, it’s creepy how their understanding of rape dovetails with their understanding of marriage. If you’re a good wife, you’re supposed to internalize that you’re always the problem. If you’re a good daughter, your purpose is to not make waves and obey dad (not mom).

Todd Akin et al: when you cut through the hemming and hawing, their perspective is that any rape where the women can be portrayed as a sexual agent isn’t really a rape, because maybe she wanted it, or provoked it. “Real, real” rape isn’t defined by the actions of the rapist, but the character of the rape victim: she didn’t ask for it, she didn’t provoke it, it wasn’t mixed signals, etc.

90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:12:50am

re: #89 The Ghost of a Flea

“Biblical values” is a code word for “patriarchy” and that is the common theme to all their attitudes about sex and reproductive rights.

91 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:12:54am
A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

orgulous

PRONUNCIATION:
(OR-gyuh-luhs)

MEANING:
adjective: Haughty.

ETYMOLOGY:
From Old French orguill (pride). Earliest documented use: 1275.

USAGE:
“Behring was not too orgulous to ask for practical advice when in the spring of 1894 he had run into difficulties.”
Ulrike Klöppel; Enacting Cultural Boundaries; Science in Context (Cambridge, UK); Jun 2008.

92 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 7:13:18am

re: #88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

They’re frantically searching for an overfed double. Which is a hard task in the North Korean Land of Plenty./

Fortunately, the NK military splurged and bought a convenient 12-pack of Kim Jong Uns.

When one gets gouty, they just remove another from the plastic.

93 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:14:35am

re: #89 The Ghost of a Flea

Looking at how they view consent inside a relationship (marriage), I’d say it’s not about cluelessness, it’s about a conscious decision that what women want doesn’t matter. Have just been reading the blog No Longer Quivering, it’s creepy how their understanding of rape dovetails with their understanding of marriage. If you’re a good wife, you’re supposed to internalize that you’re always the problem. If you’re a good daughter, your purpose is to not make waves and obey dad (not mom).

Todd Akin et al: when you cut through the hemming and hawing, their perspective is that any rape where the women can be portrayed as a sexual agent isn’t really a rape, because maybe she wanted it, or provoked it. “Real, real” rape isn’t defined by the actions of the rapist, but the character of the rape victim: she didn’t ask for it, she didn’t provoke it, it wasn’t mixed signals, etc.

because the woman isn’t a person, she exists to serve man. She is a tool, an object, an afterthought.

It’s as if god said “oh wait, i created Adam with a dick, but nothing to put it in”

94 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:14:36am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ancient religions should adopt to the 21st century. Not the other way around.

95 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:14:47am

er:
#83

Where is Kim Jong Un?

In one of his country’s death camps.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:15:04am

South Korea floats propaganda balloons into NK…NK shoots back…

97 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:16:01am

I hate it when the kleenex box is just out of reach.

98 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 7:17:37am
99 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 7:18:36am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

I hate it when the kleenex box is just out of reach.

Mine never are since the one cat knocks both of them off the table/night stand at every opportunity. They interfere with her sitting in that spot to get my attention regarding the quality/quantity of the chow in the food dish.

100 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:19:23am

re: #98 Lidane

I remember the last time Markos beheaded someone. That was quite a scandal back then!

101 ericblair  Oct 10, 2014 7:20:07am

re: #89 The Ghost of a Flea

Looking at how they view consent inside a relationship (marriage), I’d say it’s not about cluelessness, it’s about a conscious decision that what women want doesn’t matter.

It’s not only sex; it’s the whole concept of agency, or “freedom”. Fundies and other authoritarians don’t understand it, don’t think others should have it, and don’t even really want it for themselves. They’re in controlling, intrusive subsocieties because not having someone tell you what to think and do all the time is scary. The only real “freedom” they want is the freedom to force others to obey.

The only reason they use the word “freedom” all the time, and why it sounds so bizarre when they do, is because that was a magic word of the Holy Founding Fathers. Otherwise, they’re the same order-and-stability-and-conformity authoritarian followers as any other group on the planet.

102 WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2014 7:20:45am

re: #98 Lidane

Media Matters ✔ @mmfa
Follow

Allen West says ISIS is using “the exact same tactics” as Media Matters and @dailykos: mm4a.org

This seems rather coordinated. Rush Limbaugh is saying the same thing, as is several others. DKos had an article about how badly the Flush/StopRush campaigns have been hurting conservative loudmouths and it is all MM and DKos’s fault. So all the conservative loudmouths now have to blather and repeat.

I think it’s hysterical, myself.

103 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:21:05am

re:
#100

I remember the last time Markos beheaded someone. That was quite a scandal back then!

It’s why I stopped going there. It got a little too much after that.

/

104 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:22:13am

105 Jay C  Oct 10, 2014 7:22:34am

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards!

Overcast and cool in lovely Philadelphia this morning. Rain should be coming in later today and will last over into the weekend.

Home laptop is current out of service. Battery under 10% and it won’t charge. So I have a defunct power cord/converter, bad power connector, or a dying battery. Given the age of the machine (~6 years) I figure any of them is possible. Will have to do some tests to see if I can narrow it down. And then look into what the repair/parts costs might be as compared to buying a new machine and then transferring everything to a new box.

The same thing happened to me recently with an old (since-expired, dammit) Dell laptop: Does yours work at all on line power? If you’re not showing a “charging” icon, or it’s not running at all, then the problem is most likely with the converter. Though 6-year-old laptop batteries are also likely to be near the end of their useful lifespan anyway….

106 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:22:51am

Uh oh

107 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:23:47am
108 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:24:06am

re:
#102

DKos had an article about how badly the Flush/StopRush campaigns have been hurting conservative loudmouths and it is all MM and DKos’s fault.

Oh, so that’s why West is all butthurt at MMFA and DKos. Although West doesn’t need much of a reason to be butthurt.

109 LadyBehir  Oct 10, 2014 7:24:19am

The God retreat showed up in my Facebook feed.

110 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:24:24am

So, I ordered a new pair of winter boots.

I can’t believe how much I like them. They are so warm and comfy, I’ve been wearing them around the house as slippers.

111 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 7:24:48am
112 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 7:25:16am

re: #93 FemNaziBitch

because the woman isn’t a person, she exists to serve man. She is a tool, an object, an afterthought.

It’s as if god said “oh wait, i created Adam with a dick, but nothing to put it in”

It’s upsetting, but you might want to check out No Longer Quivering. One of the regular posts is dissection of one the popular “how to be a wife manuals” favored by the biblical patriarchy people…written by no less than my favorite people on Earth [spit] The Pearls.

Because the idea that Adam was made first, and Eve made from Adam, is actually used as justification for the whole “you don’t matter, you don’t need dreams or hopes of your own.”

Makes my head hurt.

113 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:27:37am

I’m glad we created a failed state in Iraq.
//

114 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:28:09am

re: #112 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s upsetting, but you might want to check out No Longer Quivering. One of the regular posts is dissection of one the popular “how to be a wife manuals” favored by the biblical patriarchy people…written by no less than my favorite people on Earth [spit] The Pearls.

Because the idea that Adam was made first, and Eve made from Adam, is actually used as justification for the whole “you don’t matter, you don’t need dreams or hopes of your own.”

Makes my head hurt.

These things upset me enough. I don’t think I want to read it. Thanks for the post, tho. I will put it in my Amazon Wish List, just in case.

115 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 7:28:14am

re: #64 Rightwingconspirator

Took this shot last night, worked it up for a certain look to tell a perticular story. Title-Re Write

Rewrite

I’d use a coffee cup rather than the pint glass.

E: Y helo ther, 60 posts after this that I didn’t notice…

116 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 7:29:04am

re: #110 FemNaziBitch

So, I ordered a new pair of winter boots.

I can’t believe how much I like them. They are so warm and comfy, I’ve been wearing them around the house as slippers.

When I was in Alaska, these were our issued footgear. They were super warm and comfy… It was like wearing slippers all day long. Hated going back to regular boots.

117 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:29:39am

re: #112 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s upsetting, but you might want to check out No Longer Quivering. One of the regular posts is dissection of one the popular “how to be a wife manuals” favored by the biblical patriarchy people…written by no less than my favorite people on Earth [spit] The Pearls.

Because the idea that Adam was made first, and Eve made from Adam, is actually used as justification for the whole “you don’t matter, you don’t need dreams or hopes of your own.”

Makes my head hurt.

It isn’t coming up at Amazon.

118 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 7:30:01am

re: #116 RealityBasedSteve

When I was in Alaska, these were our issued footgear. They were super warm and comfy… It was like wearing slippers all day long. Hated going back to regular boots.

[Embedded image]

I see they’re sent with an initial supply of snow!
;)

119 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:30:10am

re: #116 RealityBasedSteve

When I was in Alaska, these were our issued footgear. They were super warm and comfy… It was like wearing slippers all day long. Hated going back to regular boots.

[Embedded image]

Those look like work to put on.

I like the Bogs, because they are easy.

120 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 7:31:43am

re: #105 Jay C

The same thing happened to me recently with an old (since-expired, dammit) Dell laptop: Does yours work at all on line power? If you’re not showing a “charging” icon, or it’s not running at all, then the problem is most likely with the converter. Though 6-year-old laptop batteries are also likely to be near the end of their useful lifespan anyway….

HP just issued a recall on converters as well. Mine was not in the lot that apparently have some sort of fault that can cause them to overheat and potentially start fires.

121 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 7:33:13am

re: #119 FemNaziBitch

Those look like work to put on.

I like the Bogs, because they are easy.

nah… easy peasy. If I recall, we left the laces loose enough to be able to slide our feet in / out. All you had to do was zip them up and throw a quick bow on the top.

RBS

122 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 7:37:58am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

I hate it when the kleenex box is just out of reach.

Duct tape a string to it. Give yourself enough length to make it across the room the box is in. Make sure never place anything around the box. Take string end with you wherever you go in room.

123 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:39:12am

re: #115 Schadenboner

I’d use a coffee cup rather than the pint glass.

E: Y helo ther, 60 posts after this that I didn’t notice…

Well, I did not use anything LWC had literally just stepped away for a moment and I was outside trying to get a shot of the hummingbird challenging my avatar cat. I so want to catch that stare between them. Anyway I saw that still life shot and grabbed it. I do so little of that genre.

Anyway it kinda works writers are a hard drinking bunch anyway, I had thought if I was going to change anything it would have been an added shot glass-empty.

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:39:20am

re: #122 ObserverArt

Duct tape a string to it. Give yourself enough length to make it across the room the box is in. Make sure never place anything around the box. Take string end with you wherever you go in room.

they also come in handy sized packets to carry around in your shirt pocket

125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:40:20am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they also come in handy sized packets to carry around in your shirt pocket

But it’s the law of nature that when you need one, you’re out of’em.

126 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 7:40:21am
127 Timothy Watson  Oct 10, 2014 7:41:01am

re: #120 Feline Fearless Leader

HP just issued a recall on converters as well. Mine was not in the lot that apparently have some sort of fault that can cause them to overheat and potentially start fires.

They also had a recent recall for one of the cords that goes from the wall outlet to the inverter brick.

128 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 10, 2014 7:41:09am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

It isn’t coming up at Amazon.

It’s a blog on Patheos.

129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 7:41:44am

re: #126 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Good.
Bad that it’s come to that.

130 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 7:41:51am
131 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 7:43:53am

Kim Jong Un comes out of hiding

132 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:44:12am

re:
#128

She has a Twitter account, too, if it’s the same person I’m thinking of.

133 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 7:45:31am

re: #104 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded image]

11. Name one popular queen. Freddie Mercury.

That is a particular selection carries a double meaning. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I am a Freddy fan, and the rhythm guitarist in our bands is listed as Freddy in the phone book. /

134 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 7:47:17am

re:
#128

Also try the Twitter handle @NoQuivering

135 WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2014 7:51:20am

re: #108 Bulworth

It’s not just Rush and West…it’s throughout the wingnut blogosphere. MM and DKos are the new George Soros.

136 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 7:51:44am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they also come in handy sized packets to carry around in your shirt pocket

But FemNazi was talking about a box!

Also, if you are really suffering and have it bad, those little packets don’t last long.

(Fun with Kleenex…)

137 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:51:45am

re: #116 RealityBasedSteve

When I was in Alaska, these were our issued footgear. They were super warm and comfy… It was like wearing slippers all day long. Hated going back to regular boots.

[Embedded image]

Mukluks! I was issued a pair of those at KI Sawyer. They kept my feet warm even in -40 degree weather. They wanted us to wear steel towed boots but not in that kinda temps.

138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:51:58am

re: #130 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Pure Patriarchy. Wives and daughters are chattel.

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 7:52:45am

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Mukluks! I was issued a pair of those at KI Sawyer. They kept my feet warm even in -40 degree weather. They wanted us to wear steel towed boots but not in that kinda temps.

The latter were what the Wehrmacht was wearing when the -40 temps set in outside Moscow…

140 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 7:58:10am

re: #119 FemNaziBitch

Those look like work to put on.

I like the Bogs, because they are easy.

Very easy. Just slide your foot into the thick wool liner and zip up. One of the most comfortable boots I ever had. I need a new pair.

141 Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2014 8:00:56am

Amazing how much mileage these idiots get out of one offhanded comment I made 7 years ago, and almost immediately retracted.

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 8:01:29am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The latter were what the Wehrmacht was wearing when the -40 temps set in outside Moscow…

Hob-nailed boots. Nice supply of metal conductors to bring that nice numbing cold directly to the bottom of your feet.

143 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 8:01:54am

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Well, I did not use anything LWC had literally just stepped away for a moment and I was outside trying to get a shot of the hummingbird challenging my avatar cat. I so want to catch that stare between them. Anyway I saw that still life shot and grabbed it. I do so little of that genre.

Oh, this was a candid? Never mind then: It’s really really good.

Why did I think you were in the stock photography biz? Must be some false memory from the whole “The only blacks the GOP knows are literally stock photos” thing last week.

144 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:02:14am

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Very easy. Just slide your foot into the thick wool liner and zip up. One of the most comfortable boots I ever had. I need a new pair.

That is work to me. My back likes easy shoes.

145 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 8:02:36am

re:
#135

It’s not just Rush and West…it’s throughout the wingnut blogosphere. MM and DKos are the new George Soros.

Well, probably Soros funding MM and DKos with all his foreign billions of $$, while the RWNJ sit by with no money whatsoever, no cable television news station and no single radio station anywhere to spread the Truth of their message.

///

147 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 8:03:29am

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Anyway it kinda works writers are a hard drinking bunch anyway, I had thought if I was going to change anything it would have been an added shot glass-empty.

Whiskey bottle down to dregs, sideways shotglass on table, droplets on the glass side and spilled onto the table?

E: HDR it (ducks) and the droplets can glow.

148 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:03:58am

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Mukluks! I was issued a pair of those at KI Sawyer. They kept my feet warm even in -40 degree weather. They wanted us to wear steel towed boots but not in that kinda temps.

I’ve been wearing the Minnetonka Mukluks for over a decade, but now need a boot that fits better. The perils of getting old.

I’ve been search for a couple of weeks. I think I’ll like the Bogs.

149 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:05:01am

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

Oh yeah…

Wellco N-1B Air Force Snow/Extreme Cold Weather Mukluks Boots, Made in USA
Price: $29.98 - $39.98

ooooh, wool sox —can’t do that at all.

150 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:06:49am

re: #122 ObserverArt

Duct tape a string to it. Give yourself enough length to make it across the room the box is in. Make sure never place anything around the box. Take string end with you wherever you go in room.

Duct tape is the answer to everything.

151 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 8:07:40am
152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 8:08:00am

re: #150 FemNaziBitch

Duct tape is the answer to everything.

except in those cases where WD-40 is the answer

153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 8:09:58am

re: #151 Lidane

Coffman says public land “has been taken from us” and that “it is time that the Western attorneys general join together and fought back against the federal government, and we took back that land.”

And just who was it originally taken from?

154 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:10:23am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

except in those cases where WD-40 is the answer

ooooh, did you know that WD-40 comes in a pen?

How kewl is that?

156 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 8:13:26am

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

ooooh, did you know that WD-40 comes in a pen?

How kewl is that?

And duct tape is now a fashion statement!

157 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 8:14:01am


As a cost cutting measure, Sony will now be designing all of their cd covers in MS Office 95

158 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:14:07am
159 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 8:14:12am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

except in those cases where WD-40 is the answer

Duct tape, WD-40 and a genuine Swiss Army Knife and you can fix all the world’s problems.

/

160 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:14:35am

re: #156 NJDhockeyfan

And duct tape is now a fashion statement!

Oh, I know. There is a huge display at my Michael’s.

161 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:15:28am

re: #159 ObserverArt

Duct tape, WD-40 and a genuine Swiss Army Knife and a little bit o’ string you can fix all the world’s problems.

/

ftfy

162 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 8:17:45am

re: #160 FemNaziBitch

Oh, I know. There is a huge display at my Michael’s.

My kids have put duct tape on everything from school folders to making bracelets with it.

163 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 8:19:04am

re: #159 ObserverArt

Duct tape, WD-40 and a genuine Swiss Army Knife and you can fix all the world’s problems.

/

Fundamentally correct. All repairs are either “something moves when it shouldn’t” or “something isn’t moving when it should”.

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 8:19:23am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Coffman says public land “has been taken from us” and that “it is time that the Western attorneys general join together and fought back against the federal government, and we took back that land.”

And just who was it originally taken from?

And besides that it was Federal land going back to when Colorado was a territory. They sort of keep missing that point out there in Utah, Colorado, Nevada, etc. when this issue pops up.

165 danarchy  Oct 10, 2014 8:21:22am

re: #148 FemNaziBitch

I’ve been wearing the Minnetonka Mukluks for over a decade, but now need a boot that fits better. The perils of getting old.

I’ve been search for a couple of weeks. I think I’ll like the Bogs.

I am a big fan of the Merrell Mocs. By far the most comfy shoe I’ve ever worn, they have boot versions too which I actually haven’t tried.

166 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 8:22:19am

I think I’m unconsciously telling myself something. I got to work at 8am and I’m already halfway through my commitments for the day in just over two hours.

167 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 8:22:29am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

ftfy

With a little bit of work, you can use the duct tape as string. It is that good!

168 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:23:29am

169 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:23:55am

re: #165 danarchy

I am a big fan of the Merrell Mocs. By far the most comfy shoe I’ve ever worn, they have boot versions too which I actually haven’t tried.

Keens fit me better

170 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 8:25:41am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Coffman says public land “has been taken from us” and that “it is time that the Western attorneys general join together and fought back against the federal government, and we took back that land.”

And just who was it originally taken from?

Us /Geronimo, Joseph, Roman Nose, and all the other Native American tribes displaced by White Man.

171 danarchy  Oct 10, 2014 8:26:19am

re: #169 FemNaziBitch

Keens fit me better

Yeah, I am not a fan of the look of the toe cap…although as I age comfort trumps vanity more and more often.

172 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 8:27:25am

Nope.

173 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:27:41am

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Apologizes: ‘If You Think You Deserve A Raise, You Should Just Ask’

174 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 10, 2014 8:28:25am
175 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:29:36am
176 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 8:29:47am

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Mukluks! I was issued a pair of those at KI Sawyer. They kept my feet warm even in -40 degree weather. They wanted us to wear steel towed boots but not in that kinda temps.

Yep… The standard issue troop boots were worthless in Alaska. Even if you got an oversized pair so you could get some heavy socks inside, the rubber soles got so hard and slick that you had no traction at all. It was so funny watching people who had standard boots try to walk across the parking lot. It felt like you were walking on ice with strips of raw bacon strapped to your feet.

RBS

177 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 8:29:55am
178 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 8:30:10am

Kim might have contracted something from Rodman.
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179 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:30:36am

re: #174 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Stay classy, Cardinals fans!
Some Fools Are Selling Darren Wilson Cardinals Shirts

180 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 8:30:38am

re: #166 Lidane

I think I’m unconsciously telling myself something. I got to work at 8am and I’m already halfway through my commitments for the day in just over two hours.

maybe you could contact out to Krager, he’s been overloaded lately. :)

RBS

181 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:31:46am

re: #176 RealityBasedSteve

Yep… The standard issue troop boots were worthless in Alaska. Even if you got an oversized pair so you could get some heavy socks inside, the rubber soles got so hard and slick that you had no traction at all. It was so funny watching people who had standard boots try to walk across the parking lot. It felt like you were walking on ice with strips of raw bacon strapped to your feet.

RBS

My EDS friends recommend these

182 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:33:09am

re: #171 danarchy

Yeah, I am not a fan of the look of the toe cap…although as I age comfort trumps vanity more and more often.

oy vey

183 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 8:35:13am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Coffman says public land “has been taken from us” and that “it is time that the Western attorneys general join together and fought back against the federal government, and we took back that land.”

And just who was it originally taken from?

…France?

(Or possibly Mexico depending on where in the state he’s standing).

184 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:35:43am

This is how I feel.

185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 10, 2014 8:36:01am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

Scott Walker knows that restricting abortion is a losing position, so he lies about it.

If only they could make the Echo Chamber soundproof to those who live outside it…

186 Black d20  Oct 10, 2014 8:36:49am

re: #172 NJDhockeyfan

I would personally be behind a legitimate push to reclaim the swastika as a religious symbol/symbol of luck from the clutches of it being one of hate, as hard as that would be.

187 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:37:12am
188 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 8:37:40am

I am a Redwing guy except the newest ones I have are not made in America as none of the boots available at my traditional bootery had ANY USA made boots.
Sigh.

189 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:38:18am

WTF?

190 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2014 8:38:19am

Ever notice I almost never quote comments from another site? Especially the flaming hot RWNJ sites? Gonna make an exception. The FCC will tell anyone that asks that disrupting radio traffic be it digital, cell, or FM is a Federal offense. These people are terrified of the protesters or journalists that dare to image & record reality.

From Conservative Treehouse
donotlink.com

Does any one know if the State, County or City can jam wifi? We already most streamers are cutting back,because they don`t want the troublemakers arrested. You can bet those that stream this week-end will cut, edit, or put their fingers over the broadcast in order to protect the guilty, before they send it to MSM.

mazziflol says:
October 8, 2014 at 1:00 am
Disrupting WiFi is trivial, Streamers are streaming over cellular networks though.

Like
Reply
firefly says:
October 8, 2014 at 1:07 am
Can streamers be disrupted?

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LetJusticePrevail” says:
October 8, 2014 at 5:14 am
Cell phone signals an be blocked with commercially available devices,but the FCC takes a dim view on this.

191 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:40:05am

re: #188 Amory Blaine

I am a Redwing guy except the newest ones I have are not made in America as none of the boots available at my traditional bootery had ANY USA made boots.
Sigh.

They have a coupon available now.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 8:41:22am
193 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 8:44:07am

I don’t know how the debate will go tonight but I don’t think Burke has the sauce to deal with fuckfaces gish gallops. We shall see.

194 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:44:33am

CNN’s Sony Hostin and Paul Callan debate police racism and abuse of power
Youtube Video

Hammond is a city in NorthWestern Indiana near Gary, IN.

It’s a basic, fear the Black Person, they might be a Gary Criminal.

195 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 8:44:50am

Crazy Uncle Pat is bleating again:

196 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 8:46:53am

re:
#195

The Confederacy, oh yes, those guys who wanted to split the U.S. into two countries. Patriotism.

197 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 10, 2014 8:49:45am

re: #190 Rightwingconspirator

Ever notice I almost never quote comments from another site? Especially the flaming hot RWNJ sites? Gonna make an exception. The FCC will tell anyone that asks that disrupting radio traffic be it digital, cell, or FM is a Federal offense. These people are terrified of the protesters or journalists that dare to image & record reality.

From Conservative Treehouse
donotlink.com

After some BART strike activity in San Francisco a while back, they developed some sort of system for cell jamming there. It wouldn’t surprise me if other cities had similar. Of course, someone could just record video to their phone and then upload it later. Not the same immediate impact, obviously.

198 ausador  Oct 10, 2014 8:51:10am

Sounds about right…

199 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 8:51:13am

re: #195 Lidane

Crazy Uncle Pat is bleating again:

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I was reading that piece when you posted. I don’t think he’s helping his cause any with this gem…

In 1954, the Supreme Court ordered the desegregation of all public schools. But when the court began to dictate the racial balance of public schools, and order the forced busing of children based on race across cities and county lines to bring it about, a rebellion arose. Only when resistance became national and a violent reaction began did our black-robed radicals back down.
- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Again, a lot of his stuff probably sounds better in the original German.

RBS

200 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 8:52:27am

re: #199 RealityBasedSteve

I was reading that piece when you posted. I don’t think he’s helping his cause any with this gem…

Again, a lot of his stuff probably sounds better in the original German.

RBS

In reflection, among his base, it does strengthen his argument. more the pity.

RBS

201 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 8:54:54am
202 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 8:55:23am
203 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 8:56:43am

The GOP trusts him enough to have him write their platform, though:

204 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 8:57:21am

re: #191 FemNaziBitch

Sweet. Thanks for sharing. I’m going to try a new boot place (Rogans Shoes) as I heard they have a bigger selection than the place ive been going to for the last 20+ years.

205 Romantic Heretic  Oct 10, 2014 8:58:55am

re: #98 Lidane

As Valcav Havel put it, “They cannot tell the difference between dissent and naked terrorism.”

206 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 8:59:12am

re: #203 Lidane

The GOP trusts him enough to have him write their platform, though:

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The GOP has exactly as much interest in an accurate history as a vain and shallow man has in an accurate portrait.

207 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 9:01:01am

From a profile of GOP gubernatorial candidate Rob Astorino in today’s NY Times:

Now 47, Mr. Astorino is basically the same steadfast conservative and devout Catholic that he was at 18, when he struck people as an unusually mature activist — and invited comparisons to Alex P. Keaton, the teenage Republican played by Michael J. Fox on “Family Ties.”

His life has, in fact, been more complicated than that: There was a failed marriage; his father, a police officer whom he looked up to, was imprisoned for corruption; and he had to distance himself from other relatives, including one suspected of being a mafia leader. And that was just in his 20s.

208 stpaulbear  Oct 10, 2014 9:01:15am

re: #201 FemNaziBitch

It’s Hug a Drummer Day?

Nobody’s come knocking at my door yet today…

209 Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2014 9:01:19am

re: #145 Bulworth

re:
#135

Well, probably Soros funding MM and DKos with all his foreign billions of $$, while the RWNJ sit by with no money whatsoever, no cable television news station and no single radio station anywhere to spread the Truth of their message.

///

I’ve never seen any evidence that Soros funds anybody, but there is evidence that Freedomworks funds Limbaugh to about a half million a year.

210 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 9:01:23am

re: #202 lawhawk

To prove my point:

As the Slate article points out, Ebola is a particularly nasty disease if you get it, but that also works against its ability to be used as a bioweapon - the person who gets the disease is also likely to die within days and isn’t likely to spread it very far before succumbing to the disease.

I get wanting to demonize ISIL and going after the group, but they’re already engaging in genocide, so that’s more than reason to go after the terror group. Throwing gas on the fire is counterproductive.

And Drudge is being Drudge by whipping up the fear factor even more.

211 Romantic Heretic  Oct 10, 2014 9:04:43am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And the soles were attached to the rest of the boot with iron nails. Guaranteed frostbite.

212 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:05:30am

We dont give a flying fuck about communicable diseases. Ask any of the millions of workers without sick days. Even some with sick days.

213 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:06:01am

214 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 9:06:11am

re: #208 stpaulbear

Nobody’s come knocking at my door yet today…

Me either.

215 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:06:40am

re: #208 stpaulbear

Nobody’s come knocking at my door yet today…

I blame horrible marketing.

((((stpaulbear)))

216 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:06:53am

re: #214 ObserverArt

Me either.

((((ObserverArt)))))

217 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:07:56am

You’re not doing your drum circle right if there are no hugs.

218 ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2014 9:08:04am

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

((((ObserverArt)))))

Thanks! Makes my day. A day that I need to get busy on. Later all.

219 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 9:08:11am

Oooops

There are many world class hospitals in the DFW area, I never hear of Methodist being on that list.

220 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:09:09am
221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 9:09:38am

re: #210 lawhawk

Well it is conceivable that someone with ebola could detonate a device attached to themselves that would result in spraying their blood and other bodily fluids all over bystanders.

But that leads to the question of whether or not they would they be in any condition to actually move to a location and detonate themselves? I’m betting probably not. And even if they did the device would probably kill most who were sprayed anyway.

There is also the possibility of it being manufactured in aerosol form but that would require a lot of tech.

222 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:09:53am

Of course he was released. He had no health insurance.

223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 9:10:52am

re: #213 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never dated a virgin and never had the urge to.

224 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:11:36am
225 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 9:11:54am

re: #219 b.d.

Oooops

There are many world class hospitals in the DFW area, I never hear of Methodist being on that list.

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So guy shows up in the ER complaining of flu-like symptoms, says he’s from Liberia, registers a 103 degree temp, and the most the doctor does is scrawl out a prescription for antibiotics before kicking him out on the street?

226 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 9:12:50am

re: #222 Amory Blaine

Of course he was released. He had no health insurance.

Poor.
Uninsured.
A foreign national.
He wasn’t bleeding to death in the ER.

Honestly? It’s a miracle he was even given antibiotics. I would’ve expected them to tell him to buy some NyQuil and sleep it off.

227 ausador  Oct 10, 2014 9:13:07am

re: #203 Lidane

The GOP trusts him enough to have him write their platform, though:

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Wow, he reinterpreted that ruling pretty flagrantly in order to try to make it support his agenda. His version and the actual ruling bare no resemblance to each other at all.

228 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:13:14am

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

If youre going to detonate yourself ball bearing s would be way more effective. Also doesnt ebola die quickly if the blood dries up?

229 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 9:13:26am

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Amazing how much mileage these idiots get out of one offhanded comment I made 7 years ago, and almost immediately retracted.

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I think it was around 2010, not that long before I joined. I remember the comment and the photo. IIRC (and I may get some details wrong here), you made no definite statement, only asked or speculated whether you are seeing the triskelion symbol there - and given that it was either a low-res photo or the flag was partially folded, or both, it was not an outlandish question, one could have interpreted it as such - and in any case it wasn’t a definite claim. They are really grasping at straws here.

230 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:14:07am

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Well it is conceivable that someone with ebola could detonate a device attached to themselves that would result in spraying their blood and other bodily fluids all over bystanders.

But that leads to the question of whether or not they would they be in any condition to actually move to a location and detonate themselves? I’m betting probably not. And even if they did the device would probably kill most who were sprayed anyway.

There is also the possibility of it being manufactured in aerosol form but that would require a lot of tech.

If said suicide bomber explodes and survivors are hit by bodily fluids and body parts I can see how there is a possibility of the disease being spread without anyone’s knowledge if they don’t know the terrorist had the disease. Am I wrong?

231 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 9:14:30am


Happy 68th birthday, John Prine

232 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 9:17:03am

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

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“Evil” gay rights as opposed to your “Christian” bigotry eh Linda?

233 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:17:24am

I’ve had it with the Firearm Industry and the NRA.

IMHO, Self-Defense is a Human Right, and these factions use it as a smoke-screen to increase power and profits.

234 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:17:43am

Iran involved? Shocka!

235 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 9:18:03am

re: #160 FemNaziBitch

Oh, I know. There is a huge display at my Michael’s.

There has been an annual contest for duct tape prom/wedding dresses for many years.

google.com

236 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 9:18:06am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

If said suicide bomber explodes and survivors are hit by bodily fluids and body parts I can see how there is a possibility of the disease being spread without anyone’s knowledge if they don’t know the terrorist had the disease. Am I wrong?

As Brother HCM stated, you’d have to make the assumption that a symptomatic person would have the body strength, presence of mind and easy access to a large crowd in order to strap on an explosive device, make it out of wherever he’s hiding and detonate the device to ‘explode’ all over said crowd.

That’s a massive stretch.

237 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 9:18:50am

Really let’s realize what we’re really dealing with on LGBT rights here. We got one side who supports marriage equality and another vocal side that has a lot of pull in a major political party that can’t even acknowledge gays as fellow human beings. People like Linda Harvey are common in the GOP. They are why Cruz is pushing what will be a futile amendment and they are why we had to wait until the 60’s to get real action on racial civil rights too.

238 BeachDem  Oct 10, 2014 9:19:39am

re: #207 De Kolta Chair

Yeah, he’s a real charmer, that Astorino.

From the article (once they get past his “hair impeccably coifed” and the point that he “radiates next-door-neighbor charm with his dimpled smile and ready quips” ) they say:

…he now presides over a work force that is 15 percent leaner.

Here’s how he did it:

Astorino said better mental health systems — not tougher gun control laws — were needed to combat mass shootings, but he’s slashed funding and staffing for such services since taking office as Westchester county executive in 2010, budget figures show.

Under Astorino’s helm, the county closed four mental health clinics and passed the care of their clients on to nonprofit organizations.

Overall county funding for mental health services fell from just under $18 million in 2010 to about $8.4 million in the current spending plan.

Staffing at the county’s Community Mental Health Department fell from 152 positions under Astorino’s predecessor — Democrat Andrew Spano — to 74 this year.

He’s done the same with other Westchester services—combining departments and cutting staff. Cuomo has his problems, but Astorino is a bad actor.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:20:55am

re: #236 makeitstop

As Brother HCM stated, you’d have to make the assumption that a symptomatic person would have the body strength, presence of mind and easy access to a large crowd in order to strap on an explosive device, make it out of wherever he’s hiding and detonate the device to ‘explode’ all over said crowd.

That’s a massive stretch.

Not really. Terrorists would make it happen if they wanted to. Put him on a wagon, park it in a busy market then let him explode.

240 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 9:21:13am

re: #238 BeachDem

Yeah, he’s a real charmer, that Astorino.

From the article (once they get past his “hair impeccably coifed” and the point that he “radiates next-door-neighbor charm with his dimpled smile and ready quips” ) they say:

…he now presides over a work force that is 15 percent leaner.

Here’s how he did it:

Astorino said better mental health systems — not tougher gun control laws — were needed to combat mass shootings, but he’s slashed funding and staffing for such services since taking office as Westchester county executive in 2010, budget figures show.

Under Astorino’s helm, the county closed four mental health clinics and passed the care of their clients on to nonprofit organizations.

Overall county funding for mental health services fell from just under $18 million in 2010 to about $8.4 million in the current spending plan.

Staffing at the county’s Community Mental Health Department fell from 152 positions under Astorino’s predecessor — Democrat Andrew Spano — to 74 this year.

He’s done the same with other Westchester services—combining departments and cutting staff. Cuomo has his problems, but Astorino is a bad actor.

Such a good Christian. Cutting mental health. Fucker. What a fraud that guy and so many “good conservative Christians” are.

241 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 9:22:15am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Not really. Terrorists would make it happen if they wanted to. Put him on a wagon, park it in a busy market then let him explode.

There’s a dark Wile E. Coyote cartoon in there somewhere.

242 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:22:31am

Cartoonish. Not likely and fearmongering.

243 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 9:22:34am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

If said suicide bomber explodes and survivors are hit by bodily fluids and body parts I can see how there is a possibility of the disease being spread without anyone’s knowledge if they don’t know the terrorist had the disease. Am I wrong?

Yeah it’s possible (nearly anything is possible) but the reality is that the person would most likely not be in a position to make it to the front door let alone to a crowded area. That is highly unlikely unless they had help.

244 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:23:54am
245 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 9:24:24am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Not really. Terrorists would make it happen if they wanted to. Put him on a wagon, park it in a busy market then let him explode.

We are talking about this happening in the US, right? That’s what the current fear-mongering suggests.

You tell me a public place in this country where ‘terrorists’ could wheel a body strapped with a bomb into a public place and leave him there, and not have anyone notice.

Also - ISIS could infect themselves en masse and run through Times Square kissing tourists. That has about as much chance of happening in this country as your scenario does.

246 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:24:34am

re: #238 BeachDem

Yeah, he’s a real charmer, that Astorino.

From the article (once they get past his “hair impeccably coifed” and the point that he “radiates next-door-neighbor charm with his dimpled smile and ready quips” ) they say:

…he now presides over a work force that is 15 percent leaner.

Here’s how he did it:

Astorino said better mental health systems — not tougher gun control laws — were needed to combat mass shootings, but he’s slashed funding and staffing for such services since taking office as Westchester county executive in 2010, budget figures show.

Under Astorino’s helm, the county closed four mental health clinics and passed the care of their clients on to nonprofit organizations.

Overall county funding for mental health services fell from just under $18 million in 2010 to about $8.4 million in the current spending plan.

Staffing at the county’s Community Mental Health Department fell from 152 positions under Astorino’s predecessor — Democrat Andrew Spano — to 74 this year.

He’s done the same with other Westchester services—combining departments and cutting staff. Cuomo has his problems, but Astorino is a bad actor.

linky no worky

247 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 9:24:56am

re: #244 FemNaziBitch

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We needed the ERA before I was even born but that bigoted witch Schalfry spread pathetic lies about what it would do.

248 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:26:37am
249 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 9:26:41am

re: #245 makeitstop

We are talking about this happening in the US, right? That’s what the current fear-mongering suggests.

You tell me a public place in this country where ‘terrorists’ could wheel a body strapped with a bomb into a public place and leave him there, and not have anyone notice….snip.

GOP “Young Guns” presser.

250 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:26:53am

I’ll keep my eye out at the local farmers market for a gravely ill terrorist lying in an ox cart.

251 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:27:25am

re: #241 Decatur Deb

There’s a dark Wile E. Coyote cartoon in there somewhere.

252 BeachDem  Oct 10, 2014 9:27:47am

re: #246 FemNaziBitch

Hmm—try this:

nydailynews.com

253 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 9:27:58am

re: #250 Amory Blaine

I’ll keep my eye out at the local farmers market for a gravely ill terrorist lying in an ox cart.

Seriously. This is an absurd discussion.

254 Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2014 9:28:15am

re: #163 Schadenboner

Fundamentally correct. All repairs are either “something moves when it shouldn’t” or “something isn’t moving when it should”.

Well, there is always the possibility of the “hey that shouldn’t be wet”.

255 Schadenboner  Oct 10, 2014 9:29:00am

re: #234 NJDhockeyfan

Iran involved? Shocka!

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YOU LEAVE THOSE BEARS ALONE, IRAN.

256 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:29:14am

257 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 9:29:22am

re: #253 makeitstop

Seriously. This is an absurd discussion.

No, this is the “Ludicrous” discussion. “Absurd” is down the hall in 2B.

258 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 10, 2014 9:30:00am

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Well it is conceivable that someone with ebola could detonate a device attached to themselves that would result in spraying their blood and other bodily fluids all over bystanders.

But that leads to the question of whether or not they would they be in any condition to actually move to a location and detonate themselves? I’m betting probably not. And even if they did the device would probably kill most who were sprayed anyway.

There is also the possibility of it being manufactured in aerosol form but that would require a lot of tech.

Why go to all of that extra trouble? Just begin and end with a messy suicide bombing. The RWNJs will convince each other that it was a an Ebola-laden bio-weapon.

259 Timothy Watson  Oct 10, 2014 9:31:40am

re: #227 ausador

Wow, he reinterpreted that ruling pretty flagrantly in order to try to make it support his agenda. His version and the actual ruling bare no resemblance to each other at all.

There’s also the fact that it was the decision of single state’s Supreme Court on an issue of state law, not the Constitution nor any other state’s.

260 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:33:30am

bbl

261 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 9:33:54am

Off to an afternoon of non-stop action and adventure at the NYS DMV. I hope all of your afternoons will be more enjoyable than mine is about to be.

262 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:34:35am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

Eternal September.
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263 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:35:22am

264 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 9:35:48am

re: #256 FemNaziBitch

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Won’t matter, such leading lights as Hannity have already declared that they don’t trust the CDC in this matter. When you eliminate the “Real Facts”, all that’s left is “Faux Fox Facts”.

265 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 9:37:11am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

No, this is the “Ludicrous” discussion. “Absurd” is down the hall in 2B.

This discussion has gone PLAID!111!!

RBS

266 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 9:37:45am

re: #238 BeachDem

Separated at birth?


267 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 9:37:59am

re: #262 Amory Blaine

Eternal September.
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Had to look it up.

268 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 9:40:12am

re: #266 De Kolta Chair

Separated at birth?

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Yeah a little bit.

269 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:42:16am
270 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:43:29am

re: #263 FemNaziBitch

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Actually, according to the Whackos, we were all born there.

271 FemNaziBitch  Oct 10, 2014 9:44:03am

bbl again

272 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 9:45:51am
273 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:48:58am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

It’s a new school year and the comic sans on my schedule is confusing.

274 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:49:18am
275 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 9:49:23am

don’t know if anyone posted it yet but Stephen Colbert has discovered Republicans Are People Too

Comedy Central Video

276 Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2014 9:49:40am

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

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Wut? Sit in at a bath house? Block the road at a pride parade? Or do you think (as I do) that civil disobedience translates to armed assault in their brains? Brains that would rattle in a dry gnat carcass.

277 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 9:50:33am

My poor kitty has an eye infection and he’s saddled with the cone of shame to go with the antibiotics.

278 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 9:51:14am

re: #266 De Kolta Chair

Fish-faced.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2014 9:52:00am

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

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furry gargoyle.
RAAWWWRRR!!!

280 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 9:53:30am
281 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 9:56:27am

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

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Apparently the “Civil Disobedience” is going to be the talking point now. I’m sure that it will be as effective as some of the latest mass demonstrations that they have attempted to organize. They have lost this war and they know it…. now they are simply fighting delaying actions and planning how to salt the earth.

RBS

282 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 9:56:35am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Changed the photos to bring out the similarities more.

For some reason, similarities is a fun word to type.

283 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 9:58:19am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2014 9:59:08am

YIKES!!!

285 Randall Gross  Oct 10, 2014 10:00:17am

Tweetdeck in Chrome has been giving me fits lately, not filling user columns, or finding my tweets when I wanted to add a “User” column. I trashed the extension, and re-added from the Chrome web store, voila, it now works fine.

286 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 10:02:09am

re: #285 Randall Gross

Tweetdeck in Chrome has been giving me fits lately, not filling user columns, or finding my tweets when I wanted to add a “User” column. I trashed the extension, and re-added from the Chrome web store, voila, it now works fine.

They refribbed the gonkulators.

RBS

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 10:04:10am

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’ve never dated a virgin and never had the urge to.

But if you had just negotiated the purchase of an important piece of property wouldn’t you want the tamper-proof seals to still be in place?
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288 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 10:04:50am

re: #225 Targetpractice

So guy shows up in the ER complaining of flu-like symptoms, says he’s from Liberia, registers a 103 degree temp, and the most the doctor does is scrawl out a prescription for antibiotics before kicking him out on the street?

It’s Texas Jake.
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289 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 10:08:04am

re: #285 Randall Gross

Tweetdeck in Chrome has been giving me fits lately, not filling user columns, or finding my tweets when I wanted to add a “User” column. I trashed the extension, and re-added from the Chrome web store, voila, it now works fine.

Tweetdeck?

I searched for a smaller image, but all Google found was a photo of Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden who was assassinated in 1986.

290 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:13:41am

re: #219 b.d.

Oooops

There are many world class hospitals in the DFW area, I never hear of Methodist being on that list.

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Released with a 103 fever and knowing that he was from Liberia? That’s all kind of red flags given the heightened alerts that medical facilities around the country have been given.

It definitely sounds like a violation of EMTLA, which I wrote about previously.

There’s good reason for his family to complain about the level of care provided initially. That he was shuffled off with a high fever knowing that he was in the risk group doesn’t bode well for the hospital’s actions. I’d expect lawsuits and criminal investigations too.

His chances of survival went down significantly once he was booted by the hospital the first time. Add in pain and suffering (to him and his family) and you’re looking at a serious chunk of change.

291 blueraven  Oct 10, 2014 10:17:40am

re: #290 lawhawk

Released with a 103 fever and knowing that he was from Liberia? That’s all kind of red flags given the heightened alerts that medical facilities around the country have been given.

It definitely sounds like a violation of EMTLA, which I wrote about previously.

There’s good reason for his family to complain about the level of care provided initially. That he was shuffled off with a high fever knowing that he was in the risk group doesn’t bode well for the hospital’s actions. I’d expect lawsuits and criminal investigations too.

His chances of survival went down significantly once he was booted by the hospital the first time. Add in pain and suffering (to him and his family) and you’re looking at a serious chunk of change.

Not so much in TX. Tort reform limits liability. 250K I think.

292 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 10:18:24am

re: #290 lawhawk

Released with a 103 fever and knowing that he was from Liberia? That’s all kind of red flags given the heightened alerts that medical facilities around the country have been given.

It definitely sounds like a violation of EMTLA, which I wrote about previously.

There’s good reason for his family to complain about the level of care provided initially. That he was shuffled off with a high fever knowing that he was in the risk group doesn’t bode well for the hospital’s actions. I’d expect lawsuits and criminal investigations too.

His chances of survival went down significantly once he was booted by the hospital the first time. Add in pain and suffering (to him and his family) and you’re looking at a serious chunk of change.

One if the problems at the hospital that I read about was that while he had reported being in Liberia to the entrance nurse, and that was recorded, the report the doctor received didn’t include that info, that was only on the reports printed for nurses. They have since fixed that in the system.

As seems to often be the case, it’s not that there isn’t info, it’s that the people who need it don’t get it.

RBS

293 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 10, 2014 10:18:43am

re: #290 lawhawk

Someone should suffer the legal consequences.

294 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:19:53am

Peggy Noonan has Ebola fever-nightmares. She blames the President for not immediately carrying out orders to prevent non-citizens from West Africa from entering the US (ignoring that US citizens can be carriers of Ebola).

Decisions are made—by someone, or some agency—on matters of great consequence, Ebola, for instance. The virus has swept three nations of West Africa; a Liberian visitor has just died in Dallas. The Centers for Disease Control says it is tracking more than 50 people with whom he had contact.

The commonsense thing—not brain science, just common sense—would be for the government to say: “As of today we will stop citizens of the affected nations from entering the U.S. We will ban appropriate flights, and as time passes we’ll see where we are. We can readjust as circumstances change. But for now, easy does it—slow things down.

295 Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2014 10:21:23am

re: #294 lawhawk

She drunk again? It is afternoon in DC.

296 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 10, 2014 10:23:18am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

She drunk again? It is afternoon in DC.

It’s always gin o’clock somewhere in the Noonaverse.

297 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:23:34am

re: #292 RealityBasedSteve

One if the problems at the hospital that I read about was that while he had reported being in Liberia to the entrance nurse, and that was recorded, the report the doctor received didn’t include that info, that was only on the reports printed for nurses. They have since fixed that in the system.

As seems to often be the case, it’s not that there isn’t info, it’s that the people who need it don’t get it.

RBS

In effect, his case was the last free drill for our protective systems. We have no confirmed cases, our procedures are being fixed, and awareness is heightened. All to the good, except for the victim and his family. Kind of owe him a debt of thanks.

298 Jordy LuhPhorj  Oct 10, 2014 10:25:24am

Supreme Court blocks Wisconsin voter ID law.

postcrescent.com

I would just like to add, fuck you Scott Walker for wrecking my birth state and turning many of my old friends and family into teabagging mouth breathing lunatics.

299 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:26:30am

re: #291 blueraven

Sec. 41.008.

(b) Exemplary damages awarded against a defendant may not exceed an amount equal to the greater of:
(1)(A) two times the amount of economic damages; plus
(B) an amount equal to any noneconomic damages found by the jury, not to exceed $750,000; or
(2) $200,000.

EMTLA is federal law with procedures of its own, so there’s a separate set of rules regarding how that is treated.

300 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 10, 2014 10:26:57am

How are those cuts to the budgets of the NIH and the CDC working out for fiscal conservatives? If they’d believe it, I’d point out that diseases are largely colorblind and they don’t care about your income either.

301 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 10:26:58am

re: #294 lawhawk

Peggy Noonan has Ebola fever-nightmares. She blames the President for not immediately carrying out orders to prevent non-citizens from West Africa from entering the US (ignoring that US citizens can be carriers of Ebola).

Not simply is it a matter of US citizens being among the infected, but also there are not many direct flights from West Africa to the US, which means we’d have to be reliant on other nations for tracking of these travelers as well as keeping them from entering the US.

We could instead do as we’re doing, which is treating cases that show up in our airports and being vigilant for those that slip through the net, but that makes too much sense. Gotta instead invest in this simplistic fantasy where we can control with 100% certainty who enters the US and who doesn’t.

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2014 10:28:07am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

She drunk again? It is afternoon in DC.

alcohol is a known ebola preventive in Noonanland.

303 dog philosopher  Oct 10, 2014 10:28:42am

re: #294 lawhawk

Peggy Noonan has Ebola fever-nightmares. She blames the President for not immediately carrying out orders to prevent non-citizens from West Africa from entering the US (ignoring that US citizens can be carriers of Ebola).

if you kiss a picture of ronald reagan every day it will make the world more white again

304 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 10:32:09am
305 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 10, 2014 10:33:42am

re: #301 Targetpractice

We could instead do as we’re doing, which is treating cases that show up in our airports and being vigilant for those that slip through the net, but that makes too much sense. Gotta instead invest in this simplistic fantasy where we can control with 100% certainty who enters the US and who doesn’t.

Or we could have even recognized that air travel and international commerce in goods has made the notion of a disease being a strictly regional problem obsolete. Oh, wait, curing deadly diseases at their sources would cost lots of money. As an alternative, how about some therapeutic nuking? I’m confident that Congressional Republicans would be on board with that.

306 Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2014 10:34:12am

re: #304 Kragar

“We’ll teach you to be a good Christian, you sorry ass little motherfucker!!”

307 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 10:34:39am

Ok I beat Shadow Of Mordor (it was awesome) and this is hysterical:

Youtube Video

308 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 10:35:01am

re: #304 Kragar

“Jesus was a good guy, he didn’t need this shit.” — John Prine

309 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 10:35:05am

The Republican challenger to Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday blamed his double-digit lag in the polls on single women and mothers who vote Democratic because they are “wed” to the social safety net and “need benefits to survive.”

Bell told the Asbury Park Press that it’s that government-dependent female demographic, not his socially conservative views on issues like abortion and access to contraception, that is weighing him down.

310 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 10:36:46am

re: #305 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Or we could have even recognized that air travel and international commerce in goods has made the notion of a disease being a strictly regional problem obsolete. Oh, wait, curing deadly diseases at their sources would cost lots of money. As an alternative, how about some therapeutic nuking? I’m confident that Congressional Republicans would be on board with that.

I was just about to address that reality, that the days of just closing the door and hoping the world’s problems stay out ended a long time back, what with the prevalence of global trade and international travel. We could have taken more proactive steps months ago to address the problem in Africa, in order to keep it there, but we were too busy kissing Israel’s ass, freaking out over ISIS, and generally involving ourselves in the issues where “blow up brown people” was at the top of the list of choices.

311 EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2014 10:37:21am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will not go near the discussion of rape online. it is too full of nuances and too easy to have something taken out of context and blown up.

I remember an article by a fellow who started out by clearly stating that rape was bad and should not happen to anyone.

But then he tried to point out that it is full of nuances and degrees of complicity, and used the analogy that - although nobody deserves to get his car stolen - you share some complicity if you leave it unlocked with a laptop visible in a bad neighborhood.

What was the response? This fellow claims that GETTING RAPED IS NO WORSE THAN GETTING YOUR CAR STOLEN!!!

Forget it…

This comparison is wrong-headed for the following very simple reason:

Defendants for auto theft don’t get to try “the door was unlocked” as a legal defense against the charge of auto theft in court.

312 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:38:23am

re: #300 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How are those cuts to the budgets of the NIH and the CDC working out for fiscal conservatives? If they’d believe it, I’d point out that diseases are largely colorblind and they don’t care about your income either.

A bug might be colorblind (usually) but an epidemic is extremely interested in how you eat, where you live and what kind of care you can afford. Of course the 99% are wildly disparate in those factors.

313 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:38:40am

re: #309 Kragar

314 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 10:38:51am

re:
#294

The commonsense thing—not brain science, just common sense—would be for the government to say: “As of today we will stop citizens of the affected nations from entering the U.S. We will ban appropriate flights, and as time passes we’ll see where we are.

Oh, now she wants Obama to issue executive orders?

315 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:39:23am

re: #309 Kragar

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Yeah it’s not being a condescending dickhead at all. God conservatives are idiots.

316 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 10:40:09am

re: #314 Bulworth

Oh, now she wants Obama to issue executive orders?

Yes, in between her own drink orders.

317 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 10:40:34am

re: #314 Bulworth

re:
#294

Oh, now she wants Obama to issue executive orders?

Right?

The same GOP who rant and rail against Executive Orders because Obama also want POTUS to start issuing Executive Orders because they’re soiling themselves in panic over Ebola. It’s bizarre.

318 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:40:54am

re: #313 lawhawk

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Really Republicans act shocked when their condescending treatment of a group results in that group avoiding their party. Got news for you Republicans, you do this to yourself. It’s not “dependence on big government”, it’s that you’re a party for greedy sexist bigoted racists by greedy sexist bigoted racists who want to tell America that two gay people getting married is a bigger threat to our country than not having good health insurance.

319 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:42:29am

re: #317 Lidane

Pretzel cognitive dissonance logic.

320 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 10:45:01am

Your librul media at work:

321 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:46:35am

[facepalm]

322 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:47:28am

re: #321 lawhawk

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Does it have that new smug asshole smell?

323 Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2014 10:48:20am

Best description of US politics I’ve read yet:

Politics truly is sports: the league is owned by billionaires, the players are millionaires, and to make the stadiums more attractive it is vital we keep the great unwashed from attending the game. It is scurrilous to point out that even though all the tickets have been purchased there are mostly empty seats at the contest. - Frank Armstrong

324 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 10:48:42am

Someone’s going to run in 2016:

325 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 10:49:12am

re: #321 lawhawk

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326 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:49:33am

re: #321 lawhawk

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[facepalm]

Nah. That’s the monument to The Unknown Jagoff.

327 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:49:52am

re: #324 Lidane

Someone’s going to run in 2016:

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He’ll do stuff like this and then he’ll talk about how secessionism wasn’t so bad. Rand’s a two faced asshole.

328 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:50:27am

Jury deadlocked in Detroit in case where cop shot and killed 7-year old.

Jurors were deadlocked and a judge declared a mistrial Friday for a Detroit police officer charged with recklessly handling his gun and killing a 7-year-old girl — the second time a verdict couldn’t be reached in the case.

The developments came after the jury indicated it was struggling to reach a unanimous decision in the case against Joseph Weekley, and Wayne County Circuit Judge Cynthia Gray Hathaway urged them to work out their differences. Weekley’s first trial ended without a verdict in June 2013.

The jury was hung on a charge of recklessly using a firearm, a misdemeanor carrying a maximum punishment of two years in prison. It was the only count remaining after Hathaway last week dismissed a felony charge of involuntary manslaughter.

The victim, Aiyana Stanley-Jones, was shot in the head while she slept on a couch in May 2010. Weekley, a member of an elite police unit, was the first officer through the door during a chaotic search for a murder suspect at her home.

Weekley’s submachine gun fired seconds after a stun grenade was thrown through a window to confuse anyone inside. He didn’t testify but has insisted that he mistakenly pulled the trigger during a struggle with Mertilla Jones, the girl’s grandmother.

Police at the scene were accompanied by a camera crew from a TV reality show, “The First 48.” The midnight raid was recorded from the outside, not the inside where Aiyana was shot.

A prosecutor had told the jury that the story was a lie intended to cover up Weekley’s carelessness.

329 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2014 10:50:48am

re: #324 Lidane

Someone’s going to run in 2016:

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oooh, hope he tells them his views on the Civil Rights Act!

330 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:50:58am

re: #323 Skip Intro

Best description of US politics I’ve read yet:

Politics truly is sports: the league is owned by billionaires, the players are millionaires, and to make the stadiums more attractive it is vital we keep the great unwashed from attending the game. It is scurrilous to point out that even though all the tickets have been purchased there are mostly empty seats at the contest. - Frank Armstrong

He would have nailed it even more if he got into how political party allegiance is like a team.

331 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:51:05am

re: #324 Lidane

Someone’s going to run in 2016:

Rand Paul is in Ferguson meeting with civil rights leaders ti.me

He’s going to teach them the history of passive resistance.

332 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:51:15am

re: #328 lawhawk

Jury deadlocked in Detroit in case where cop shot and killed 7-year old.

How the fuck do you deadlock on that?

333 Timothy Watson  Oct 10, 2014 10:51:32am

re: #304 Kragar

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Yeah, saw that this morning (I live in the county), and knew it would go national.

334 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:51:36am

re: #331 Decatur Deb

He’s going to teach them the history of passive resistance.

“I don’t know if you were aware but Martin Luther King, Jr believed in non-violence.”

335 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 10:52:10am

re: #321 lawhawk

The painting of him in the Met better captures his spiritual reticence in the face of martyrdom imho

336 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 10:52:32am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

He’ll do stuff like this and then he’ll talk about how secessionism wasn’t so bad. Rand’s a two faced asshole.

I’ve been trying to explain that to morans who think he’s a principled libertarian and moderate that will bring the country together. Yes, they’re serious. And did you know Rand Paul only says far right socon things because he needs to win elections and he’s really in favor of civil and voting rights, and he’s really pro-choice and pro-gay rights because getting gubmint out of our lives.

His fans don’t know anything about what he really stands for.

337 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:53:27am

re: #336 Lidane

I’ve been trying to explain that to morans who think he’s a principled libertarian and moderate that will bring the country together. Yes, they’re serious. And did you know Rand Paul only says far right socon things because he needs to win elections and he’s really in favor of civil and voting rights, and he’s really pro-choice and pro-gay rights because getting gubmint out of our lives.

His fans don’t know anything about what he really stands for.

He’s worse than his father in that way. Rand Paul is Ron Paul if Ron Paul was a political opportunist.

338 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 10:53:52am

re: #333 Timothy Watson

Yeah, saw that this morning (I live in the county), and knew it would go national.

Seeing 4 grown men chase down and beat the love of Jesus into a 14 year old boy does have that effect.

339 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:54:15am

Gun rights for some. So much for that Second Amendment smell.

Gun range in Arkansas says that it’s a Muslim-free zone. CAIR has sent letters to the DOJ to open an investigation.

A Muslim civil rights group is asking the Department of Justice to investigate an Arkansas shooting range whose owner recently declared it a “Muslim-free zone.”

In a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Jenifer Wicks, a lawyer for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), writes that the declaration is “a violation of federal laws prohibiting racial and religious discrimination” and “will inevitably result in a hostile environment for ordinary Muslims in Arkansas.”

“This is not a coffee and donut shop,” Jan Morgan, owner of the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Ark., wrote in an online post last month. “This is a live fire indoor shooting range … Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?”

Morgan, who says she has “read and studied” the Koran thoroughly, found “109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam.”

“People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds,” she wrote. “I do not care about their religious beliefs until or unless those beliefs command them to commit violent crimes against innocent people and I witness those crimes increasing, as we all have lately.”

340 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:54:18am

re: #335 De Kolta Chair

The painting of him in the Met better captures his spiritual reticence in the face of martyrdom:
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Sebastian, patron St. of Skyrim players.

341 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 10:54:20am

re: #321 lawhawk

OMG! WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?!?!

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“The first person to see it was Glenn Greenwald right when we took it out of the van,” Dessicino said, making clear that the picture wasn’t staged. “He was just having breakfast. One of his friends came over and was like ‘…Is that Edward Snowden?’ ‘Yes it is!’ ‘Well, that’s Glenn Greenwald!’”

I CAN’T BELIEVE THE HEROIC GREENWALD IS RISKING HIS LIFE BY RETURNING TO THE USA?!?!

342 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:54:34am

Really though, i hope the civil rights leaders aren’t fooled by that con artist who thinks he can say he would have voted against the CRA of 64, that talks down to Howard University students, and employed a “Confederate avenger”.

343 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 10:54:55am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

How the fuck do you deadlock on that?

Twice. They’ve now deadlocked twice.

344 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 10:55:14am

re: #341 b.d.

*puke*

345 Mike Lamb  Oct 10, 2014 10:55:41am

re: #243 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah it’s possible (nearly anything is possible) but the reality is that the person would most likely not be in a position to make it to the front door let alone to a crowded area. That is highly unlikely unless they had help.

If the person is that close to a suicide bomber, I’m guessing he/she isn’t surviving the explosion, and thus, ebola exposure becomes largely irrelevant.

346 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 10:56:00am

re: #336 Lidane

I’ve been trying to explain that to morans who think he’s a principled libertarian and moderate that will bring the country together. Yes, they’re serious. And did you know Rand Paul only says far right socon things because he needs to win elections and he’s really in favor of civil and voting rights, and he’s really pro-choice and pro-gay rights because getting gubmint out of our lives.

His fans don’t know anything about what he really stands for.

Rand’s a political opportunist, because daddy’s example taught him you don’t rise higher than Congress if you actually stick to your ideals.

347 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:56:00am

re: #341 b.d.

OMG! WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?!?!

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I CAN’T BELIEVE THE HEROIC GREENWALD IS RISKING HIS LIFE BY RETURNING TO THE USA?!?!

Is that thing made of small-curd cottage cheese?

348 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 10:56:38am

re: #341 b.d.

The joke’s on GG — that’s a statue of Keith Olbermann!

349 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 10:57:13am

re: #309 Kragar
The Republican challenger to Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday blamed his double-digit lag in the polls on single women and mothers who vote Democratic because they are “wed” to the social safety net and “need benefits to survive.”

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Perhaps he can find one here?

350 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:57:13am

That video was horrifying to watch.

351 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 10:57:36am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

Really though, i hope the civil rights leaders aren’t fooled by that con artist who thinks he can say he would have voted against the CRA of 64, that talks down to Howard University students, and employed a “Confederate avenger”.

Wouldn’t worry about it. They’ve seen klansmen sans percale before.

352 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:57:42am

re: #343 lawhawk

Twice. They’ve now deadlocked twice.

Goddamnit it’s too early for whiskey.

353 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 10:58:55am

re: #351 Decatur Deb

Wouldn’t worry about it. They’ve seen klansmen sans percale before.

True be that. I’m more worried about naive liberals who actually think this guy wants the government out of our lives. He’s a con artist. As I said, he’s his father if his father were more opportunistic.

354 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 10:59:35am

Then again, it helps to remember that the Paulians have grown proficient at covering for their idol’s racism. They truly believe that he was unaware of the shit that was being printed with his signature on it.

355 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 11:00:12am
356 Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2014 11:00:41am
357 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 10, 2014 11:00:43am

re: #339 lawhawk

Morgan, who says she has “read and studied” the Koran thoroughly, found “109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam.”

similar verses exist in the bible…go figure

358 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:01:07am

re: #354 Targetpractice

Then again, it helps to remember that the Paulians have grown proficient at covering for their idol’s racism. They truly believe that he was unaware of the shit that was being printed with his signature on it.

I’ve been of two minds about that. Either Paul really did write that shit and is really that racist or he’s okay with Lew Rockwell penning racist shit in his name. There was no defense one could make of the Paul newsletters unless you think the shit published in it was valid and if you do, you’re a racist ass anyhow. Ron Paul showed no problem with being the candidate du jour of white supremacists. Hell the fucker goes around celebrating the CSA.

359 Timothy Watson  Oct 10, 2014 11:02:13am

re: #338 Kragar

Seeing 4 grown men chase down and beat the love of Jesus into a 14 year old boy does have that effect.

Another great thing my county managed to get in the news for: Come for the Boston bomber’s grave (Tamerlan Tsarnaev), stay for the Christian drug-treatment center where they beat the shit out of kids.

360 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 10, 2014 11:03:13am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Does it have that new smug asshole smell?

Nope, it smells like a combination of Vodka, beets, and desperation. Talk about your verisimilitude…

361 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 11:03:18am

re: #355 Kragar

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Ehh. Spent ten years in religious boarding schools in and out of town. Nothing much went wrong except the obsessive interest in bird banding.

362 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 11:03:47am
363 Lidane  Oct 10, 2014 11:04:34am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Does it have that new smug asshole smell?

Smells like borscht and failure.

364 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 11:04:43am

re: #362 Lidane

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Every now and then, they let the mask slip a bit.

“Party of Lincoln,” my ass!

365 Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2014 11:04:46am

re: #357 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

similar verses exist in the bible…go figure

So we need to go over there, convert them to christianity and kill those that don’t.

- Ann (thrax) Coulter

366 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 11:05:03am

re: #339 lawhawk

Gun rights for some. So much for that Second Amendment smell.

Gun range in Arkansas says that it’s a Muslim-free zone. CAIR has sent letters to the DOJ to open an investigation.

This sounds like a situation ready-made for Borat to put on a Sikh turban and visit with a film crew.
/

367 De Kolta Chair  Oct 10, 2014 11:05:22am


Statue of Edward Snowden to be unveiled later today at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

368 Mike Lamb  Oct 10, 2014 11:05:27am

re: #341 b.d.

Of all the gin joints…

369 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 11:05:30am

re: #356 Eventual Carrion

370 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:06:06am

re: #362 Lidane

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Wait it’s a bad thing to praise Lincoln. What fucking galaxy is he from? Hell I can’t think of a president post Lincoln who hasn’t praised Lincoln. And lol at pathetic Weiner being paranoid about Obama locking critics off. You little shithead, if he wanted to do that, he would have done it years ago. You’re not even a thought on POTUS’s mind you pathetic right wing loser.

371 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:06:45am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Every now and then, they let the mask slip a bit.

“Party of Lincoln,” my ass!

They are frankly closer to being the party of Lincoln Rockwell than Abraham Lincoln at this point.

372 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 11:08:50am

re: #367 De Kolta Chair

373 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:11:09am

re: #367 De Kolta Chair

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Statue of Edward Snowden to be unveiled later today at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Oh oh I look just like Edward Snowden.

374 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 11:11:53am

re: #369 Kragar

“I am alone now, truly alone, and absolutely isolated from any known life. I am it. If a count were taken, the score would be three billion plus two over on the other side of the moon, and one plus God knows what on this side.”

- Michael Collins

375 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 11:12:32am

re:
#362

Michael Savage took to “The Steve Malzberg Show” today to promote his new book, “Stop the Coming Civil War,” and expound on his conspiracy theory that President Obama is deliberately infecting Americans with Ebola.

Well, look yu stupid libtards, Michael I Haz a PhD Savage is just trying to stop a civil war, THE civil war, and if he has to call Obama, Obolo, and if he has to point out the Truth Confirmed Fact that Obama is in FACT deliberately infecting every single true American with Ebola, then we should be OK with that.

//

376 CuriousLurker  Oct 10, 2014 11:13:13am

re: #339 lawhawk

Gun rights for some. So much for that Second Amendment smell.

Gun range in Arkansas says that it’s a Muslim-free zone. CAIR has sent letters to the DOJ to open an investigation.

Strange how they never manage to find the hundreds of verses that urge Muslims to do good things. In fact, all but 1 of the 114 surahs of the Qur’an start with “In the name of God, the Merciful, the Beneficent”.

Tangentially related: That book on antisemitism I’ve been reading? Now that I’m up to the late 19th century it’s giving me chills how similar the European fear mongering rhetoric was about Jews to the right-wing fear mongering today about Muslims. I mean seriously—you could literally just replace Jew with Muslim and have the perfect 2014 wingnut speech. It’s beyond creepy.

377 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:14:10am

re: #374 lawhawk

- Michael Collins

You know on the subject of Collins, I always wondered why more schools weren’t named after him. See I went to an elementary school named after Neil Armstrong and our rival was Aldrin. He even visited their school once. We of course got the more reclusive astronaut but I did like to point out that he was first but Buzz is pretty cool having appeared on the Simpsons, Ali G, etc. But seriously always wondered why Collins gets forgotten sometimes.

Youtube Video

378 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 11:15:29am

re:
#362

That’s one of Obama’s role models, that’s why I say you may think I’m inventing this to sell a book, then answer this, then how come there were 1.4 million hits on the article WND wrote the other day that was linked on Drudge, ‘Savage: Civil War, Savage says 30 days to save America’? 1.4 million people clicked on that, there are people who understand what’s going on,” he said.

Hurr hurr yeah librules how come all the hits, huh????!??!?!?!

379 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:16:02am

re: #376 CuriousLurker

Strange how they never manage to find the hundreds of verses that urge Muslims to do good things. In fact all but 1 of the 114 surahs of the Qur’an start with “In the name of God, the Merciful, the Beneficent”.

Tangentially related: That book on antisemitism I’ve been reading? Now that I’m up to the late 19th century it’s giving me chills how similar the European fear mongering rhetoric was about Jews to the right-wing fear mongering today about Muslims. I mean seriously—you could literally just replace Jew with Muslim and have the perfect 2014 wingnut speech. It’s beyond creepy.

I noticed that when researching the pogroms CL back in 2011 for my term paper. It was fucking eerie. You’re not exagerrating at all and it’s a big part of why I am so vocal against anti-Muslim bigotry because we know what the Antisemitism of 19th and 20th century Europe led to.

380 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 11:18:12am

re:
#362

“The fact of the matter is, in two more years we’re not going to survive,” Savage said of the Obama presidency. “He has been conducting a civil war on America’s institutions from the day he seized power.

I’ve about given up the various predictions RWNJ have offered for the end of Amercia within the Obama presidency.

Anyway, I guess we’re not even going to make it to a Hillary presidency.

381 Vogon Poetry  Oct 10, 2014 11:20:10am

re: #376 CuriousLurker

Strange how they never manage to find the hundreds of verses that urge Muslims to do good things. In fact, all but 1 of the 114 surahs of the Qur’an start with “In the name of God, the Merciful, the Beneficent”.

Tangentially related: That book on antisemitism I’ve been reading? Now that I’m up to the late 19th century it’s giving me chills how similar the European fear mongering rhetoric was about Jews to the right-wing fear mongering today about Muslims. I mean seriously—you could literally just replace Jew with Muslim and have the perfect 2014 wingnut speech. It’s beyond creepy.

The parallels are definitely striking.

382 Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2014 11:24:30am
383 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:28:09am

re: #380 Bulworth

re:
#362

I’ve about given up the various predictions RWNJ have offered for the end of Amercia within the Obama presidency.

Anyway, I guess we’re not even going to make it to a Hillary presidency.

They’re so hysterical yet they claim to be the ones to believe in American exceptionalism and how we’re destined. Yet they say shit like this. Talk about a schizo relationship with your country. AMERICA FUCK YEAH can be heard by them as often as AMERICA NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED BY EBOLA TO BE HUMBLED.

384 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 11:30:46am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

You know on the subject of Collins, I always wondered why more schools weren’t named after him. See I went to an elementary school named after Neil Armstrong and our rival was Aldrin. He even visited their school once. We of course got the more reclusive astronaut but I did like to point out that he was first but Buzz is pretty cool having appeared on the Simpsons, Ali G, etc. But seriously always wondered why Collins gets forgotten sometimes.

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‘cuz nobody remembers the bass player’s name?

385 jaunte  Oct 10, 2014 11:31:45am
The U.S. military is building 17 treatment centers that can hold 100 people each, but the top military commander in Africa said Tuesday that they won’t be ready until mid-November. Liberia and Sierra Leone have a particularly keen need for more hospital beds. The two countries currently have 924 beds between them, but they need 4,078, according to the WHO.

“The virus is moving on virus time; we’re moving on bureaucracy or program time,” said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. “The virus is actually picking up the pace. Even as we add resources, we get farther behind.”washingtonpost.com

……………………………………….

A single Republican senator is set to block more than $1 billion from the victims of West Africa’s Ebola epidemic because the White House’s plan “focuses on Africa.”
……..snip……….
As reported by The Nation magazine, the requested $1 billion would come from monies already allocated to war operations and would cover the costs of medical facilities construction, distribution of supplies, and medical training for both military and civilian personnel.
allvoices.com

386 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:32:54am

re: #384 RealityBasedSteve

‘cuz nobody remembers the bass player’s name?

Ha fair point.

387 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 11:32:56am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

You know on the subject of Collins, I always wondered why more schools weren’t named after him. See I went to an elementary school named after Neil Armstrong and our rival was Aldrin. He even visited their school once. We of course got the more reclusive astronaut but I did like to point out that he was first but Buzz is pretty cool having appeared on the Simpsons, Ali G, etc. But seriously always wondered why Collins gets forgotten sometimes.

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I remember him. Poor bastard had to sit in the Command Module while Armstrong and Aldrin got to go down to the surface and play around. That’s why I like that picture.

388 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 11:33:07am
389 ausador  Oct 10, 2014 11:33:33am

One cynical but true way of looking at the shutdown…

390 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 11:33:45am

re: #384 RealityBasedSteve

‘cuz nobody remembers the bass player’s name?

Stumpy Joe Peeps? No, wait - he was a drummer.

391 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 11:33:55am

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember him. Poor bastard had to sit in the Command Module while Armstrong and Aldrin got to go down to the surface and play around. That’s why I like that picture.

He should have taken a selfie after that.

392 CuriousLurker  Oct 10, 2014 11:34:38am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

I noticed that when researching the pogroms CL back in 2011 for my term paper. It was fucking eerie. You’re not exagerrating at all and it’s a big part of why I am so vocal against anti-Muslim bigotry because we know what the Antisemitism of 19th and 20th century Europe led to.

Yep, it was all about how the Jews were different/other, didn’t share their values, could never be trusted to be fully loyal citizens, were trying to take over their countries by stealth… I’m sure my eyes were bugging out like crazy as I was reading. Talk about déjà vu.

393 Franklin  Oct 10, 2014 11:35:00am

re: #385 jaunte

1 Billion already allocated to War Operations. Basically the equivalent of 94 hours of “war time”.

nationalpriorities.org

394 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 11:35:01am

re: #388 Kragar

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But he has seekrit sorces!!!

395 Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2014 11:36:32am

re: #384 RealityBasedSteve

‘cuz nobody remembers the bass player’s name?

They do if you’re talking about Rush.

396 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 11:36:42am

re: #388 Kragar

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Wingnut Flying Monkey Twitter Brigade to descend on Politifact in 3,2,1…

397 Bulworth  Oct 10, 2014 11:38:35am

re:
#385

A single Republican senator is set to block more than $1 billion from the victims of West Africa’s Ebola epidemic because the White House’s plan “focuses on Africa.”

Not a problem. Peggy Noonan now says Obama can, has to, execute whatever executive orders he needs to, to beat this Ebola thing.

/

398 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 11:39:24am
399 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 10, 2014 11:39:51am

You really don’t have to read further than the first word or two to know that this is going to be brain breaking level of stupid. I’m especially taken by the line “the individual representing himself as Barack Hussein Obama is a malignant saboteur, harboring allegiances that are in conflict with his role as our president.”

There are times where I could almost imagine how our society would be different if the Code Duello was still in place.

WorldNetDaily commentator Erik Rush insists in his column today that he is just asking the question: Does President Obama intend “to facilitate an Ebola outbreak in the United States? Will his efforts to protect Americans from this dread disease be as ineffectual and insincere as his war against ISIS?”

Rush writes that the president is not an “unluckly, incompetent or intellectually compromised” leader, as in fact “the individual representing himself as Barack Hussein Obama is a malignant saboteur, harboring allegiances that are in conflict with his role as our president.”

According to Rush, Obama is an “incomprehensibly diabolical individual” who hopes to create an Islamic caliphate and allow members of terrorist groups to enter the United States. Following this train of thought, Rush insists that it is only reasonable to wonder if Obama is hoping to spread Ebola in the U.S.

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

400 EmmaAnne  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:02am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will not go near the discussion of rape online. it is too full of nuances and too easy to have something taken out of context and blown up.

I remember an article by a fellow who started out by clearly stating that rape was bad and should not happen to anyone.

But then he tried to point out that it is full of nuances and degrees of complicity, and used the analogy that - although nobody deserves to get his car stolen - you share some complicity if you leave it unlocked with a laptop visible in a bad neighborhood.

What was the response? This fellow claims that GETTING RAPED IS NO WORSE THAN GETTING YOUR CAR STOLEN!!!

Forget it…

OK, I am trying to figure out how to answer this. Because I don’t want you to give up! And I know what it is like to think you are being an ally and getting smacked down for getting it wrong - I’ve been there on race.

But I have to say that the remarks you are quoted are really seriously insensitive and clueless. Comparing precautions for not getting raped to precautions for not getting your laptop stolen from your car is missing the point on almost every level.

First: you prevent your laptop form getting stolen by locking it up. The analogy for not getting raped? Locking yourself up.

Second: women take numerous precautions every day. We think about this shit all the time. Acting like we never bothered to do as much as locking the car is really clueless.

My advice given my own misadventures:

- Listen when people tell you that you messed up. Most people do want allies, and if you are willing to apologize and listen and do better next time, most people will forgive you and welcome you.

- Don’t mansplain (or whitesplain). These people have been working on these issues forever, and it is very unlikely that some newbie is going to walk in with this great answer that no one who lives with it has never thought about before. Educate yourself before jumping in with your advice.

I know, it feels bad to be smacked down like that. But the alternative is letting injustice carry on without your efforts. I really feel it is worth checking your ego at the door and being a good ally instead of spouting off.

401 Kragar  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:09am
402 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:12am

re: #396 b.d.

Wingnut Flying Monkey Twitter Brigade to descend on Politifact in 3,2,1…

Are we talking 1939 “Wizard of Oz” flying monkeys? Or the flying baboons out of “Oz the Great and Powerful”? The former creeped me out as a kid, but the latter creeped me out as an adult. I fucking HATE baboons!

403 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:21am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

They’re so hysterical yet they claim to be the ones to believe in American exceptionalism and how we’re destined. Yet they say shit like this. Talk about a schizo relationship with your country. AMERICA FUCK YEAH can be heard by them as often as AMERICA NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED BY EBOLA TO BE HUMBLED.

I was born in the late Forties. My parents and their friends had gone through the Great Depression and WWII. We were living in the world with a robust, nuclear armed, saber rattling Soviet Union during the years I grew up. My memory might be failing me but, I don’t remember anyone ever doing the kind of sniveling that the our right wing does every fucking minute of every fucking day. Most people would be ashamed of themselves but this collection of cowardly, abnormal assholes seems incapable of that particular emotion.

404 HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:26am

re: #392 CuriousLurker

Yep, it was all about how the Jews were different/other, didn’t share their values, could never be trusted to be fully loyal citizens, were trying to take over their countries by stealth… I’m sure my eyes were bugging out like crazy as I was reading. Talk about déjà vu.

Right, nailed it. The whole “They can’t be trusted” thing. It’s also a little like the Anti-Catholicism that happened here but more like the Antisemitism given the whole conspiracy nonsense that often comes with it. I just pray we never see Anti-Muslim pogroms.

405 dog philosopher  Oct 10, 2014 11:40:41am

jeff bell, running against cory booker, turns out to be a 70 y/o who leveraged his positions as bullshit generator policy advisor for ronald reagan into positions, no doubt well remunerated, at the head of a number of “think” tanks

he “thinks” for a living

406 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 10, 2014 11:42:51am

re: #341 b.d.

OMG! WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?!?!

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I CAN’T BELIEVE THE HEROIC GREENWALD IS RISKING HIS LIFE BY RETURNING TO THE USA?!?!

407 b.d.  Oct 10, 2014 11:44:51am

re: #402 Blind Frog Belly White

Are we talking 1939 “Wizard of Oz” flying monkeys? Or the flying baboons out of “Oz the Great and Powerful”? The former creeped me out as a kid, but the latter creeped me out as an adult. I fucking HATE baboons!

The former as they flap around but don’t really do anything except throw straw into the wind.

Those ones in the Great & Powerful movie were scary.

408 Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2014 11:47:32am

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I was born in the late Forties. My parents and their friends had gone through the Great Depression and WWII. We were living in the world with a robust, nuclear armed, saber rattling Soviet Union during the years I grew up. My memory might be failing me but, I don’t remember anyone ever doing the kind of sniveling that the our right wing does every fucking minute of every fucking day. Most people would be ashamed of themselves but this collection of cowardly, abnormal assholes seems incapable of that particular emotion.

As kids in 40s-50s Pittsburgh we were proud of the imagined Soviet megatonnage dedicated to our city. That meant we were valuable. The RW has nothing left but hate and fear.

409 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 10, 2014 11:52:20am

re: #408 Decatur Deb

As kids in 40s-50s Pittsburgh we were proud of the imagined Soviet megatonnage dedicated to our city. That meant we were valuable. The RW has nothing left but hate and fear.

And along those lines Pittsburgh Magazine ran an article in the early 80s that described the effects of a low-altitude nuclear airburst over the city. (IIRC, directly above the main building of the University of Pittsburgh.)

So the potential devastation of a nuclear war was still on the mind just 30 years ago.

410 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 12:02:53pm

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I was born in the late Forties. My parents and their friends had gone through the Great Depression and WWII. We were living in the world with a robust, nuclear armed, saber rattling Soviet Union during the years I grew up. My memory might be failing me but, I don’t remember anyone ever doing the kind of sniveling that the our right wing does every fucking minute of every fucking day. Most people would be ashamed of themselves but this collection of cowardly, abnormal assholes seems incapable of that particular emotion.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, they also launched attacks on most of our possessions in the Pacific, which were largely successful. For the first 6 months, we did nothing but lose ground. Even Midway, the turning point in the Pacific, was largely a matter of luck. Our parents and grandparents faced TWO better armed, better prepared opponents, and the outcome was by no means certain.

After the War, as the Cold War got in gear, there was the CONSTANT threat of nuclear annihilation. A substantial portion of the country believed that nuclear war with the Soviets as inevitable, and we came damned close at least once.

I’m always amazed at the clowns who were CONVINCED that Al Qaeda was an EXISTENTIAL THREAT and they tried to convince all of us that we faced a threat worse than any the US had ever faced.

Pansies.

411 Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2014 12:04:43pm

Aw, nuts. I spend all that time composing a post, and you all piss off upstairs.

412 makeitstop  Oct 10, 2014 12:22:53pm

re: #321 lawhawk

There Is A Nine-Foot Tall Statue Of Edward Snowden In New York City

[facepalm]

Looks more like Joe Scarborough.

413 sagehen  Oct 10, 2014 12:35:19pm

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’ve never dated a virgin and never had the urge to.

Never in your whole life? Even when you were young enough to be a virgin yourself?


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