1 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 10, 2014 8:15:29pm

Finished? Not even.

2 aagcobb  Oct 10, 2014 8:42:48pm

She’s not finished because of the ad. She has never been in the race to begin with. Texas is just too Republican for her to have any chance of winning.

3 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 10, 2014 11:31:29pm

re: #2 aagcobb

LOL Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on this. But I still wish she would!

4 Shvaughn  Oct 11, 2014 5:36:40am

I think it’s an offensive, inappropriate ad, but I don’t think it’s the reason she’s finished.

5 aagcobb  Oct 11, 2014 6:06:51am

re: #4 Shvaughn

I think it’s an offensive, inappropriate ad, but I don’t think it’s the reason she’s finished.

Since she is going to lose anyway, it would’ve been nice if she took the high road and focused on issues meaningful to people’s lives, instead of nasty attack ads.

6 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:39:42am

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

7 Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2014 8:53:10am

I like the ad too. It shows that even handicapped people can be hateful pieces of shit.

8 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 9:24:56am

Are people freaked out by the wheelchair? I don’t get it. It’s like making fun of the sneakers Wendy wore when she filibustered. I don’t know whether Abbott has done that, but I would see it as equivalent. Maybe I am un-freaked because I work on wheelchairs. It’s just another means of transportation. It happens that Abbott uses one because a tree fell on him.

I don’t think it’s any worse than calling Davis ‘Abortion Barbie’. And by the way, it’s the ‘Barbie’ part that’s offensive. It means ‘airheaded doll’ and they use it because Davis is blond.

9 sagehen  Oct 11, 2014 9:42:58am

I wasn’t clear on whether “he sided with” refers to in his capacity as the State’s AG, or if he used to be in private practice and those were his clients. If it’s the latter, the ad is unfair. Repulsive defendants have as much right to representation as anybody else, the whole system depends on it, and I can’t criticize someone for taking those cases. If it’s the former, he’s sleazy as fuck and deserves for it be an issue.

10 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 9:46:49am

re: #9 sagehen

It was in his capacity as AG:

In a series of legal cases in his three terms, Abbott’s office has fought a blind pharmacy professor in Amarillo who wanted reflective tape on the stairs to her office; two deaf defendants in Laredo who asked for a qualified sign language interpreter in their courtroom; and a woman with an amputated leg. In that case, the state argued she was not disabled because she had a prosthetic limb.
dallasnews.com

11 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 9:48:45am
In most disability cases, Abbott’s office has claimed sovereign immunity for Texas. Such immunity, granted in the 11th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, says a state can’t be sued without its consent.
………..
On ADA claims, federal appellate courts have established exceptions to a state’s claim of immunity. For instance, if a state agency accepts federal funding, it implicitly accepts federal rules and waives its immunity, the courts have said.
dallasnews.com
12 Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2014 10:06:29am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Conservative fake “outrage” is always amusing. This is the same class of filth that call her ‘Abortion Barbie’ on a daily basis. Don’t miss your fainting couch on the way down.

13 Tigger2  Oct 11, 2014 10:34:40am

Why would she be finished? for telling the truth.

14 CarleeCork  Oct 11, 2014 10:53:07am

You’d be surprised at the number of new voter registrations in the largest counties. Abbott has used his wheelchair in TWO ads down here, he opened up that can of worms with tort reform. And yes, as a Texan and a woman, I believe Wendy Davis will win this election.

15 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 11:10:21am

I finally watched the ad. The GOP is whining because it’s effective.

The guy’s in a wheelchair, he sued and won for his injury.

Other people people have sued for or relation to their injuries or disabilities, Abbot has fought against them in litigation.

The truth hurts.

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 11:34:45am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Shaking my head that you think that comment is something to be proud of.

17 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 12:01:04pm

I admit I didn’t see the cause for outrage in this ad. That the media is outraged (the same media that has no problem having Eric “Abortion Barbie” on as a guest) is laughable, considering what they let pass on the Republican side every single day.

18 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 12:02:24pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shaking my head that you think that comment is something to be proud of.

He’s a Republican. What do you expect?

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 12:04:19pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

He’s a Republican. What do you expect?

I’m a Republican, but the nonsense DF spews makes me cringe.

20 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 12:17:37pm
21 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 12:21:45pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only because he can go for days seeming to be reasonable, then *BOOM*, out pops the full metal RWNJ.

22 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 12:34:09pm

I don’t see anything wrong with this ad, myself. It’s making a point that needs to be made over and over about the Republican Party’s heartless, selfish agenda. I wish more Democrats would take the gloves off and fight like this.

The GOP has no compunction at all about diving into the worst sewers. Democrats don’t have to get that ugly, but playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules while your opponent kicks you in the nuts is a losing proposition.

23 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 12:34:29pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

In-freaking-credible, especially coming from someone who created a page the other day for the specific purpose of tut-tutting over an ad by a Democrat that supposedly contained “severe dishonesty”.

This hypocrisy, this IOKIYAR double standard is a prime example of what makes the GOP so loathsome. I stayed out of slamming you on your page, but now I’m going to go down-ding it for good measure.

24 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:34:41pm

Sorry, I don’t get it.

25 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 12:35:02pm

I think the ad is great and entirely fair. Abbott wasn’t criticized for being disabled, he was criticized for being a hypocritical asshole.

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 12:35:20pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

In-freaking-credible, especially for someone who created a page the other day for the specific purpose of tut-tutting over an ad by a Democrat that supposedly contained “severe dishonesty”.

This hypocrisy, this IOKIYAR double standard is a prime example of what makes the GOP so loathsome. I stayed out of slamming you on your page, but now I’m going to go down-ding it for good measure.

it’s just “Rah Rah Team!” for DF.

27 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 12:35:54pm

The outrage about the ad is much ado about nothing. I expect this crap fake outrage from the likes of the GOP, but it is disappointing that some centrists and Democrats are running scared on this topic.

28 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:37:17pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a Republican,

Wait, what? :D

29 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 12:38:08pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

You do realize that you are rooting for the success of a synthesis of just about all evil in US politics.

Apparently for no better reason that “Go, Team, Go!” taken to an almost terrifying level of pure mindlessness.

30 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 12:38:45pm

No, she’s not finished. But nice effort by the purity police to turn it into the Ebola of campaign ads.

Can Abbott milk this ad for three weeks? Maybe. But he runs the risk of losing any sympathy vote he already has.

31 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 12:38:47pm

FWIW, I don’t see anything wrong with the ad either. If she’d been mocking him for his disability or implying that all people who use wheelchairs are hypocrites, then it would be a different story.

32 Lidane  Oct 11, 2014 12:39:25pm

Every word in that ad is true.

It’s just a damned shame that so many people here in Texas actively vote against their own interests by voting Republican.

33 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 12:40:29pm

re: #28 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wait, what? :D

GET.HIM.

(loads up on straws and spitballs)

34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:40:29pm

re: #31 CuriousLurker

Finally, an authentic case of a fake outrage. As usual, from the right.

35 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:40:52pm

re: #33 Ryan King

Her :D

36 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 12:41:26pm

re: #35 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Her :D

I’LL GET HER TOO.

37 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 12:41:59pm

I think the ad would have been better if, instead of ending with “Greg Abbott…he’s not for you” they ended with, “Greg Abbot…the guy’s a fucking hypocrite.”

38 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:42:07pm

re: #36 Ryan King

I’LL GET HER TOO.

I’m sure it’s only a technicality.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 12:42:18pm

re: #28 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wait, what? :D

Yes, I am.
Haven’t voted Republican in a national or state-election in decades, if ever.
Still waiting for a Republican worth voting for.
In the meantime there are very nice Democratic candidates who get my vote.
:D

40 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 12:42:42pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a Republican, but the nonsense DF spews makes me cringe.

Let’s double check here. Do you consistently vote for those turd-stuffed sacks of shit at the federal level, or is this one of the cases where the GOP is the only game in town locally so one must needs register GOP to have a say in local politics?

41 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 12:42:52pm

If I weren’t feeling like a lazy slug today, I’d make a page of as many GOP Congresspersons and Senators as I could find whose advertising and comments are truly abhorrent , yet don’t get any scrutiny or criticism from the media at all.

It would be a very long page.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 12:42:55pm

re: #36 Ryan King

I’LL GET HER TOO.

but leave my little dog alone!!!!

43 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 12:43:05pm

re: #34 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Finally, an authentic case of a fake outrage. As usual, from the right.

They went nuts early on because of “I stand with Wendy” signs and stuff.

44 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 12:43:28pm

Greg Abbott’s own wheelchair commercial:

Script:
GREG ABBOTT: After my accident I had to rebuild my strength.
I would roll up an eight story parking garage.
Spending hours going up the ramps.
With each floor, it got harder and harder. But I wouldn’t quit.
‘Just one more,’ I’d tell myself. ‘Just one more.’
I see life that way. And it’s how I’ll govern Texas.
To get to the top, we must push ourselves to do just one more.
gregabbott.com

45 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 12:43:31pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

The outrage about the ad is much ado about nothing. I expect this crap fake outrage from the likes of the GOP, but it is disappointing that some centrists and Democrats are running scared on this topic.

Probably the same GOP enablers who told John Kerry to “take the high road” and ignore the swiftboat attacks.

Real Democrats need to realize the “tone police” are not their friends. They ignore/dismiss GOP viciousness with “tut tut, both sides do it”, while absolutely slamming any progressive who dares to fight back. Again, see them for what they are - enablers of the corporatist status quo.

46 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:43:53pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, I am.
Haven’t voted Republican in a national or state-election in decades, if ever.
Still waiting for a Republican worth voting for.
In the meantime there are very nice Democratic candidates who get my vote.
:D

I knew it was a technicality. You’re basically a commie by today’s GOP’s standards.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 12:44:21pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

Let’s double check here. Do you consistently vote for those turd-stuffed sacks of shit at the federal level, or is this one of the cases where the GOP is the only game in town locally so one must needs register GOP to have a say in local politics?

GOP is the only game in town for local (read=county-level). All local offices are determined in the Republican primary in May.

48 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 12:45:39pm

re: #44 jaunte

“Because you need arms strong enough to take away Texas womens’ rights, frack the hell out of the land, and keep the have-nots from disturbing the haves.”

49 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 12:45:44pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

The outrage about the ad is much ado about nothing. I expect this crap fake outrage from the likes of the GOP, but it is disappointing that some centrists and Democrats are running scared on this topic.

Democrats as a party still want to play by gentlemen’s rule against an opposition that sees fighting dirty as the new status quo. It’s part of the reason why Reid, despite getting snookered again and again by handshake deals, would not abandon the filibuster. They want so badly to believe that the old rules of decorum are still obeyed when it’s obvious to outside observers that the GOP as a party has gone bugfuck insane.

50 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 12:46:34pm

re: #37 darthstar

I think the ad would have been better if, instead of ending with “Greg Abbott…he’s not for you” they ended with, “Greg Abbot…the guy’s a fucking hypocrite.”

or ending with: ‘Greg Abbot believes in “I’ve got mine, fuck you” just like the rest of his demented party’.

Not really, of course, but it would be something to see if the GOP crybabies were given something worth complaining about.

51 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 12:46:50pm

after watching the republican party operate for the past 35 years my capacity to be outraged at any hardball political tactic has been utterly numbed

i dont know if it will help her or hurt her, but to republicans i say see how you like it, for a change

52 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:47:28pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Democrats as a party still want to play by gentlemen’s rule against an opposition that sees fighting dirty as the new status quo.

“Not enough!”, says David Horowitz.

53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 12:50:54pm

I don’t like the ad, btw. I don’t like this type of ads, even when they are 100% truthful. But it’s a normal ad that plays by the rules.

55 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 12:54:38pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

56 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 12:57:17pm

i wonder what would happen in american elections if democrats started using the immoral lying anger rousing sarcastic political tactics that republicans have been beating them up with?

57 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 12:57:30pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

I left you a present over on your page.

People need to understand how selective your ethics are.

58 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 12:59:00pm

P.S. The point of the ad is that Abbot lacks even basic sympathy. People are used to Republicans lack of normal human empathy, but to fuck over people who’ve gone through near the exact identical suffering kinds of experience is something else. He has no excuse, he literally knows better, or has every reason to, but instead chooses to ignore the plight of people that are just like him.

59 sagehen  Oct 11, 2014 12:59:15pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, I am.
Haven’t voted Republican in a national or state-election in decades, if ever.
Still waiting for a Republican worth voting for.
In the meantime there are very nice Democratic candidates who get my vote.
:D

You can still be proud of part of our history — we’re the party that gave the world Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower. The three best presidents this country ever had. Mike Bloomberg also ran on the R line.

Just remind yourself of that every time you can’t find a primary candidate worth supporting, and have to cross party lines for the general. (it works for me.)

60 nines09  Oct 11, 2014 12:59:38pm

All the outright lies and ignorant things spoken and done by the GOP and Tea Party and this ad is upsetting people? GTFOH.

61 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:00:18pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

P.S. The point of the ad is that Abbott lacks even basic sympathy. People are used to Republicans lack of normal human empathy, but to fuck over people who’ve gone through near the exact identical suffering kinds of experience is something else. He has no excuse, he literally knows better, or has every reason to, but instead chooses to ignore the plight of people that are just like him.

He sees himself as more deserving. For some reason.

62 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 1:00:19pm

re: #56 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen in american elections if democrats started using the immoral lying anger rousing sarcastic political tactics that republicans have been beating them up with?

A whole lot fainting spells from liberal pundits. “Such brutish behavior!”

63 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 1:00:54pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

The ad isn’t nasty, it’s accurate.

64 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:02:32pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

I grow very tired of this shit. Just what it is about generic Republicans that you find to be so wonderful?

1) Is it their hatred of gays?

2) Is it their endemic racism?

3) Is it their endless nonsense relating to abortion and birth control?

4) Is it their ‘kill them all’ approach to foreign policy?

5) Is it their embrace of creationism and other anti-science stupidity such as climate change denial?

6) Is it their increasing reliance on Confederate ideas such as nullification?

7) Is it their desire to take us back to a new gilded age, where the abuses will be perpetual because big media is already in the bag for its masters?

8) Is it their total contempt for just about everyone who isn’t filthy rich?

9) Is it their manifest desire to wreck the economy via government inaction, provided the Democrats can be blamed?

10) Is it their track record of spending like drunk sailors when in charge, combined with irresponsible tax cuts, then turning around and pretending to care about fiscal prudence when Democrats are in charge?

(edited to add #10, I knew I was missing something big in the list)

65 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 1:02:36pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

Are people freaked out by the wheelchair? I don’t get it. It’s like making fun of the sneakers Wendy wore when she filibustered. I don’t know whether Abbott has done that, but I would see it as equivalent. Maybe I am un-freaked because I work on wheelchairs. It’s just another means of transportation. It happens that Abbott uses one because a tree fell on him.

I don’t think it’s any worse than calling Davis ‘Abortion Barbie’. And by the way, it’s the ‘Barbie’ part that’s offensive. It means ‘airheaded doll’ and they use it because Davis is blond.

I kind of wish that a tornado had picked up a house and dropped it on him…

///

66 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 1:02:51pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

He sees himself as more deserving. For some reason.

He got his.

67 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 1:03:09pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

He sees himself as more deserving. For some reason.

68 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 1:03:15pm

re: #41 Skip Intro

If I weren’t feeling like a lazy slug today, I’d make a page of as many GOP Congresspersons and Senators as I could find whose advertising and comments are truly abhorrent , yet don’t get any scrutiny or criticism from the media at all.

It would be a very long page.

Exactly - there’s an outrageous double standard in what gets called “extreme” or “outrageous” these days. The Republicans have made their own sheer insanity so commonplace that it seems like people don’t even see it as objectionable any more. But this ad and the Gabby Giffords ads — OH NOEZ! THAT’S HORRIBLE!

69 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 1:03:17pm
70 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 1:03:58pm

re: #66 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He got his.

Abbott became a paraplegic when an oak tree fell on him while he was running following a storm in 1984.[3][4] He had two steel rods implanted in his spine, underwent extensive rehabilitation at TIRR Memorial Hermann in Houston, and has used a wheelchair ever since.[5][6] He sued the homeowner and won an insurance settlement worth more than $10 million.[7] Abbott later championed laws capping punitive damages like those for which he was eligible in his own suit to two times the amount of economic damages awarded plus $750,000.
en.wikipedia.org

71 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:07:24pm

re: #70 jaunte

Holy shit. Unholy shit. All kinds of shit.

72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 1:07:53pm

Swiftboat slime questioning patriotism of a veteran was OK. Now suddenly…

73 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:08:02pm

re: #70 jaunte

I would up ding this 100x if I could. Greg Abbott is the purest example of the GOP ‘I got mine, so fuck you (and your little dog Toto too)’ attitude one could hope for.

Wendy Davis needs to be running hard on this, (if she isn’t already).

74 BlueGrl21  Oct 11, 2014 1:08:40pm

No issue with it. I’m Texan. Greg Abbott has been making his wheelchair a theme of his ads. They’ve been everywhere. Good for the Davis campaign for calling out his bullshit. This could have come straight from the dear, departed pen of Molly Ivins.

Texas politics have always been nasty. Republicans fling bullshit and they get called on it by Democrats, hard, because there’s not much more we can do right now. So we fight then go to dinner and it’s all good. Palins get drunk and go fight their neighbors. We prefer to call them out and then go get drunk together.

Texas politics on a national stage. It doesn’t translate well.

75 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 1:08:48pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Greg Abbott is the purest example of the GOP ‘I got mine, so fuck you

Absolutely.

76 nines09  Oct 11, 2014 1:08:59pm

So Wendy Davis pointed out that Greg Abbot screws people who should not be screwed and she’s the one who is wrong? And Republicans are aghast? Clutching pearls? Feeling ill? Rooms are spinning? He’s entitled yet others are leaches? Fuck him and his entire party.

77 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:09:13pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

I would up ding this 100x if I could. Greg Abbott is the purest example of the GOP ‘I got mine, so fuck you (and your little dog Toto too)’ attitude one could hope for.

Wendy Davis needs to be running hard on this, (if she isn’t already).

It’s the ad at the top ^^^.

:-)

78 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:11:04pm

re: #65 TedStriker

I kind of wish that a tornado had picked up a house and dropped it on him…

///

I wonder whether Wendy has a little terrier…

//:-)

79 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 1:11:20pm

re: #56 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen in american elections if democrats started using the immoral lying anger rousing sarcastic political tactics that republicans have been beating them up with?

The “liberal” media would be outraged.

80 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 1:11:50pm

Lack of empathy is nothing we haven’t seen before in politics, but it takes an extra special kind of nasty to grab your $10 million insurance settlement after an accident (caused by a storm, no less) and then work hard to cut that opportunity off for everyone else.

81 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:12:58pm

re: #80 jaunte

Lack of empathy is nothing we haven’t seen before in politics, but it takes an extra special kind of nasty to grab your $10 million insurance settlement after an accident (caused by a storm, no less) and then work hard to cut that opportunity off for everyone else.

And then squeal about a photo of the ten million dollar wheelchair.

82 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:13:34pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

It’s the ad at the top ^^^.

:-)

But this ad doesn’t get into Abbott’s support for capping damages. Perhaps other ads have (or will do that). Give the GOP and its enablers more to whine about.

83 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 1:13:38pm

re: #9 sagehen

I wasn’t clear on whether “he sided with” refers to in his capacity as the State’s AG, or if he used to be in private practice and those were his clients.

Neither, the ad is referring to cases he ruled on when he was a Texas Supreme Court Justice.

84 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 1:14:39pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

Getting stuff without working for it is bad for your character!

85 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:15:06pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

But this ad doesn’t get into Abbott’s support for capping damages. Perhaps other ads have (or will do that). Give the GOP and its enablers more to whine about.

That’s right. She’s holding back. This IS the nice ad…

86 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 1:15:14pm

re: #72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Swiftboat slime questioning patriotism of a veteran was OK. Now suddenly…

No shit, let’s call up Max Cleland and ask him how caring the GOP is about paraplegics when they don’t have an (R) next to their names.

87 bratwurst  Oct 11, 2014 1:15:57pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her.

There is no out of state campaign ad that is even going to come close to saving Scott Brown. Maybe he can move to another state and try again.

88 Romantic Heretic  Oct 11, 2014 1:16:13pm

re: #13 Tigger2

Why would she be finished? for telling the truth.

Yes.

Voters don’t like the truth as the truth is often unpleasant. So they punish candidates for telling the truth.

Lies are always pleasant and wonderful. They are much preferred.

89 Mattand  Oct 11, 2014 1:16:50pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Right. Because we need more Republicans running the country, so they can finish the job of irrevocably fucking up the country that they started from 2001 to 2007.

Worst terrorist attack ever on American soil? GOP in charge.
Starting two wars with no exit strategy or way to finance them? GOP in charge.
Irresponsibly cutting taxes while fighting same wars? GOP in charge.
Worst financial American crisis since the Great Depression? GOP in charge.

Yup. Just what we need. More responsible Republican leadership.

90 missliberties  Oct 11, 2014 1:18:20pm

re: #69 darthstar

[Embedded content]

As far as I can tell Republicans express OUTRAGE every time a democrat breathes.

Not sure if Wendy Davis expects to win. It would be great if she did, though.

The goal however is to continue to build a strong democratic team in Texas. This idea that just because you can’t win you shouldn’t even try? That’s self defeating, Yes? The GOP keeps telling us they are ahead to take the wind out of our sails. They are wrong.

91 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:18:22pm

re: #87 bratwurst

There is no out of state campaign ad that is even going to come close to saving Scott Brown. Maybe he can move to another state and try again.

That’s a bit of good news. The last thing we need is to have a creature like Scott Brown in the Senate from a state which can do much better.

92 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 1:18:42pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shaking my head that you think that comment is something to be proud of.

Again, Dark shows that, under his veneer of naiveté and being (somewhat) sane, he’s just as fucking batshit crazy and singularly driven to win at any cost (truth, morals, and integrity be damned) as the rest of his compatriots that are currently in the driver’s seat of today’s GOP.

The last straw for me with him was the bilge he spewed a couple of weeks ago in regards to Gabby Giffords; combined with his comments in this thread, I feel absolutely no guilt with telling him to get fucked and that he was scrollover material from now on.

As a matter of fact, I’ll say it again for him: Dark, you and your PARTY UBER ALLES ideology can go get fucked together.

93 BeachDem  Oct 11, 2014 1:21:30pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

No shit, let’s call up Max Cleland and ask him how caring the GOP is about paraplegics when they don’t have an (R) next to their names.

We could also place a call to Tammy Duckworth and have her extol on Joe Walsh’s caring response to her status as a wounded vet.

94 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 1:22:24pm

re: #92 TedStriker

Dark is very open about his Machiavellian worldview. It’s refreshing and infuriating at the same time.

95 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:23:29pm

re: #92 TedStriker

Again, Dark shows that, under his veneer of naiveté and being (somewhat) sane, he’s just as fucking batshit crazy and singularly driven to win at any cost (truth, morals, and integrity be damned) as the rest of his compatriots that are currently in the driver’s seat of today’s GOP.

The last straw for me with him was the bilge he spewed a couple of weeks ago in regards to Gabby Giffords; combined with his comments in this thread, I feel absolutely no guilt with telling him to get fucked and that he was scrollover material from now on.

As a matter of fact, I’ll say it again for him: Dark, you and your PARTY UBER ALLES ideology can go get fucked together.

Honestly, there is simply no excuse for voting GOP at the Federal level. One who votes that way is affirmatively voting for evil, and there is no way to soften or sugar-coat this conclusion.

96 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 1:23:31pm

re: #93 BeachDem

We could also place a call to Tammy Duckworth and have her extol on Joe Walsh’s caring response to her status as a wounded vet.

I don’t remember the media being outraged by that either. “Just politics”, said the Republican owners of all the major media in America.

97 mishuga  Oct 11, 2014 1:25:22pm

I think the ad is incompetent. “Ruled against?” After seeing that wording, I thought that Abbott was a former judge who was being criticized for his rulings, which are often just clear consequences of laws. Thank you Jaunte for clarifying.

98 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 1:26:03pm

re: #92 TedStriker

I used to get angry at Dark, more so years ago when he’d say stupid shit like the famous incident where he said he also would have lied to Pat TIllman’s parents about the circumstances of their son’s death.

Now, I’m just like …

99 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 1:26:12pm

re: #93 BeachDem

We could also place a call to Tammy Duckworth and have her extol on Joe Walsh’s caring response to her status as a wounded vet.

Like with veterans, the GOP only cares about the disabled or puts those with disabilities up front and center when there’s something in it for them and/or when they can beat Democrats over the head with them; otherwise, they’ll just be completely ignored.

They excel in bullshit and lip service.

100 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 1:27:46pm

re: #99 TedStriker

Like veterans, the GOP only cares about the disabled or puts those with disabilities up front and center when there’s something in it for them; otherwise, they’ll just be completely ignored.

Yep. Hence the party that voted for cuts to the VA happily getting out there to glad-hand vets at the WWII memorial during the shutdown or gettin’ the vapors when the waiting lists became public knowledge.

101 sagehen  Oct 11, 2014 1:28:13pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

But this ad doesn’t get into Abbott’s support for capping damages. Perhaps other ads have (or will do that). Give the GOP and its enablers more to whine about.

What’s especially nasty about that is that THE. WHOLE. POINT. of punitive damages is that it’s got nothing to do with whether the plaintiff “deserves” that much, it’s about how much do we have to take away from the defendant for him/her/it to really notice. It has to be PUNITIVE.

My favorite punitive damage was a bad faith insurance case back in the 1970’s — Colonial Penn was dicking around their policyholders, they refused to pay for a $48 hearing aid just because they thought the guy wouldn’t spend the resources to force them. The damage award was 2% of the company’s value. You can be sure that insurance company, and other insurance companies, made a real effort not to do that anymore (at least until they could get the law changed and damage caps).

102 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 1:28:26pm

re: #97 mishuga

Abbott was actually a Texas Supreme Court justice when he made the ruling.

AUSTIN — Republican Greg Abbott, already denounced by his Democratic rival for ruling against a rape victim while on the Texas Supreme Court, sided against three other women who sued in sexual assault cases.

In five cases in which the victims had sued the assailant or a company for negligence in the attacks, Abbott decided against four during his tenure as a high court justice from 1995 to 2001, a review by The Dallas Morning News shows.
dallasnews.com

103 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:30:09pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

I used to get angry at Dark, more so years ago when he’d say stupid shit like the famous incident where he said he also would have lied to Pat TIllman’s parents about the circumstances of their son’s death.

Now, I’m just like …

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I try to avoid getting angry as well. That said, the fact that someone is polite when they go about supporting a party of evil crapstains that want me to die does not cut any ice at all with me.

104 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 1:30:52pm

More reason to say, “Fuck you, Greg Abbott”

105 austin_blue  Oct 11, 2014 1:38:06pm

Abbot’s people had to know this was coming. Abbott has shown up and featured his chair in at least two spots. One was analogizing his hard work to get back to health after the injury (“I’ll work just as hard for you as Governor of Texas”), and in another where he is wheeling down the breakdown lane of I-35 emphasizing how slow traffic is on some roads in Texas (“I can move faster in my chair than people can in their cars. Here’s how I am going to fix it.”)

So their outage, calling Davis’s campaign “desperate” is a completely expected response. What else are the going to say?

“Yes, we agree that the AG has been stunningly hypocritical in his positions on lawsuit reform,” isn’t going to pass their collective lips, is it? Whether their actual reaction will be an effective response cannot be predicted, especially when the facts are not in doubt. Abbott did exactly what Davis says he did.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 1:40:19pm

OK, the domestic violence troll just got on my last nerve.
Charles, I apologize for my language on that thread.

107 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 1:40:46pm
108 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 1:49:23pm

re: #101 sagehen

What’s especially nasty about that is that THE. WHOLE. POINT. of punitive damages is that it’s got nothing to do with whether the plaintiff “deserves” that much, it’s about how much do we have to take away from the defendant for him/her/it to really notice. It has to be PUNITIVE.

My favorite punitive damage was a bad faith insurance case back in the 1970’s — Colonial Penn was dicking around their policyholders, they refused to pay for a $48 hearing aid just because they thought the guy wouldn’t spend the resources to force them. The damage award was 2% of the company’s value. You can be sure that insurance company, and other insurance companies, made a real effort not to do that anymore (at least until they could get the law changed and damage caps).

Just to make this a bit more explicit, the whole point of GOP ‘tort reform’ is to completely end the concept of punitive damages.

Just what we need —- no restraint at all on the abuses perpetrated by BigCorps because any possible judgement will be completely negligible with respect to their bottom line.

In my opinion, if big business wants to cap damages, then they should lose the corporate shield and live with personal liability for judgements against the business.

109 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 1:53:51pm
110 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 1:53:52pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

Just to make this a bit more explicit, the whole point of GOP ‘tort reform’ is to completely end the concept of punitive damages.

Just what we need —- no restraint at all on the abuses perpetrated by BigCorps because any possible judgement will be completely negligible with respect to their bottom line.

In my opinion, if big business wants to cap damages, then they should lose the corporate shield and live with personal liability for judgements against the business.

THIS THIS THIS

The whole point of incorporating (OK, one point) is to AVOID PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Then they want to take that irresponsible thing and make it a person.

111 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 2:00:02pm

Geraldo’s posing with his shirt off…again…while talking Benghazi.

112 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 2:01:08pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

Just to make this a bit more explicit, the whole point of GOP ‘tort reform’ is to completely end the concept of punitive damages.

Just what we need —- no restraint at all on the abuses perpetrated by BigCorps because any possible judgement will be completely negligible with respect to their bottom line.

In my opinion, if big business wants to cap damages, then they should lose the corporate shield and live with personal liability for judgements against the business.

i include tort “reform” in the list of my favorite GOP small government(tm) initiatives that somehow involves MOAR GUMMINT

113 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:02:17pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Democrats as a party still want to play by gentlemen’s rule against an opposition that sees fighting dirty as the new status quo. It’s part of the reason why Reid, despite getting snookered again and again by handshake deals, would not abandon the filibuster. They want so badly to believe that the old rules of decorum are still obeyed when it’s obvious to outside observers that the GOP as a party has gone bugfuck insane.

In military terms, as parties in general, today’s TPGOP has become the Viet Cong and the Democrats are the Vietnam-era US military.

We all know how that turned out, so that’s why those of us who aren’t batshit crazy needs to hold the Dems’ feet to the fire so they act like they have a pair when dealing with the TPGOP.

114 darthstar  Oct 11, 2014 2:03:45pm
115 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 2:05:37pm

re: #111 darthstar

AAACK

116 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 2:06:18pm

re: #113 TedStriker

In military terms, as parties in general, today’s TPGOP has become the Viet Cong and the Democrats are the US military.

We all know how that turned out, so that’s why those of us who aren’t batshit crazy needs to hold the Dems’ feet to the fire so they act like they have a pair when dealing with the TPGOP.

I think what it comes down to is too many Democrats in the highest levels of the party are old-line politicians, from the days of Scoop Jackson and the idea that the difference between the parties is simply one of opinion. That, at the end of the day, both parties agree that their duty is to the American people and finding a middle ground is the best way forward.

117 A Mom Anon  Oct 11, 2014 2:10:14pm

I’ve watched this ad several times today and I don’t get how it’s offensive to anyone. The man was in a terrible accident, sued and won a case. Happens all the time. As Attorney General however he’s gone beyond the call of duty to deny that very same thing to many other people. How is it awful to point that out?

But calling Wendy Davis “Abortion Barbie”, going off about her shoes(!) during her filibuster, calling her stability and abilities as a mom into question, bitching and whining because she got an education so she could do better for her family , that’s all just fine? Every fucking thing the GOP has criticized her for would not even so much as be a fart in the breeze to a male candidate. So why in the hell is anyone even paying attention to this and making a big deal out of it? Oh, yeah, bullying assholes hate it when there’s the slightest hint of fighting back and the cry like freaking babies when it happens.

118 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 2:10:51pm

Seriously racist POS troll:

119 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:12:46pm

re: #80 jaunte

Lack of empathy is nothing we haven’t seen before in politics, but it takes an extra special kind of nasty to grab your $10 million insurance settlement after an accident (caused by a storm, no less) and then work hard to cut that opportunity off for everyone else.

The ultimate expression of “fuck you, I got mine”.

120 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 2:13:47pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

I think what it comes down to is too many Democrats in the highest levels of the party are old-line politicians, from the days of Scoop Jackson and the idea that the difference between the parties is simply one of opinion. That, at the end of the day, both parties agree that their duty is to the American people and finding a middle ground is the best way forward.

That may have once been true for the GOP, but not any more. The GOP base is Frankenstein’s monster and has become a nihilistic death cult that would rather burn the country to the ground than see it turn into something they don’t accept. The Chamber of Commerce types in the GOP raised up this monster for decades out of evil expediency, since it was easier to foster resentment for votes than to get workers to vote to impoverish themselves to benefit the ultra-wealthy on the merits of that policy.

To hell with the GOP. In all ways except the strict legal definition, the GOP has become a party of traitors.

121 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:13:58pm

re: #118 Aunty Entity Dragon

Seriously racist POS troll:

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Also, too: sexist.

122 BeachDem  Oct 11, 2014 2:16:19pm

re: #113 TedStriker

In military terms, as parties in general, today’s TPGOP has become the Viet Cong and the Democrats are the Vietnam-era US military.

Or, as Tom Paxton put it, they’re VC, but pretend otherwise:

Every night the local gentry,
Sneak out past the sleeping sentry.
They go to join the old VC.
In their nightly little dramas,
They put on their black pajamas,
And come lobbing mortar shells at me.

123 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 2:17:20pm

re: #114 darthstar

Damn, I can be slow when it comes to images —- it just occurred to me that the Gadsen flag likens the purported patriots to poisonous snakes.

How fitting for its present day use by tea baggers.

124 AntonSirius  Oct 11, 2014 2:20:45pm

re: #59 sagehen

You can still be proud of part of our history — we’re the party that gave the world Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.

Buncha RINOs

125 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:20:49pm

re: #123 EPR-radar

Damn, I can be slow when it comes to images —- it just occurred to me that the Gadsen flag likens the purported patriots to poisonous snakes.

How fitting for its present day use by tea baggers.

Well, they certainly are a den of vipers…

126 AntonSirius  Oct 11, 2014 2:22:14pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

I can’t imagine why you’d find an ad highlighting someone’s hypocrisy “nasty”…

127 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:24:23pm

It’s Balloon Fiesta and he’s a climatologist. Don’t be laughing about his ‘package’.

128 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 2:25:51pm
129 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 2:27:38pm

Holy shit…the guy is a fer real neo Nazi…

twitter.com

130 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 2:31:29pm

re: #128 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy remains very much alive, despite the shitload of firearms that were on his ranch months ago. Remember folks, pointing a gun at a federal agent is a-okay, so long as you’re white.

131 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 2:34:53pm

re: #128 Aunty Entity Dragon

132 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 2:35:26pm
133 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 11, 2014 2:37:30pm

re: #132 Aunty Entity Dragon

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People like that are why I CCW. There are more than a few of them hiding in the deep woods up here.

134 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:38:13pm

ABL is being dumped on, and JC_Christian just joined in. It’s a nasty day on Twitter in places.

135 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:39:05pm

re: #88 Romantic Heretic

Yes.

Voters don’t like the truth as the truth is often unpleasant. So they punish candidates for telling the truth.

Lies are always pleasant and wonderful. They are much preferred.

Youtube Video

136 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 2:40:13pm

re: #124 AntonSirius

Buncha RINOs

Sadly, I plot that as a descending curve to Nixon, Reagan, and Bush 43.

137 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 2:43:54pm

o.t.

somebody “corrected” me yesterday while we were at a restaurant, insisting that i say “i dont feel well” instead of “i dont feel good”

i told them that my hamburger tasted well

138 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:43:57pm

If that’s in the water hazard, I predict golf ball sized golf balls falling soon.

139 NotAgain  Oct 11, 2014 2:45:37pm

Rude? Offensive? Hey this is Texas. Go Wendy! Knock him down and kick him, cut off his legs, then call him Shorty and tell him to get up. . That’s what they do to Obama, so taste it yourself Giant Oligarch Party. That’s how it’s done in Texas.
But do remember to smile sweetly.

140 BeachDem  Oct 11, 2014 2:45:44pm

Ooh—looks like the Gov. of CT hurt little National Racists Online’s fee-fees.

“Tom, the publication you’re talking about is a right-wing tea bag organization,” Malloy said.

talkingpointsmemo.com

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 2:45:50pm

re: #137 dog philosopher

o.t.

somebody “corrected” me yesterday while we were at a restaurant, insisting that i say “i dont feel well” instead of “i dont feel good”

i told them that my hamburger tasted well

did it taste well done?

142 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 2:46:04pm
143 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 2:47:10pm

re: #142 Aunty Entity Dragon

Is that Erick Erickson top right?

144 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:47:18pm

re: #139 NotAgain

Welcome, hatchling.

145 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 2:47:21pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

did it taste well done?

i dont think it could taste much after all of the kechup i drownded it with

146 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 2:48:38pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Didn’t add to your epic downdings, because the style was civil and the passionate dedication to a useless cause is permissible here. OTOH, I live between an Auburn fan and a ‘Bama fan.

147 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 2:49:07pm

re: #143 jaunte

Is that Erick Erickson top right?

And why is a gold grill so thuggish and that silver grill just says ‘well-to-do suburbanite’?

148 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:55:15pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

And why is a gold grill so thuggish and that silver grill just says ‘well-to-do suburbanite’?

Because, as you know already, reasons.

149 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 2:55:41pm
150 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 2:57:50pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

@gatewaypundit @ZaidJilani please stop tweeting your racist nonsense at me
— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) October 11, 2014

Good luck with that, Wesley…

151 NotAgain  Oct 11, 2014 2:58:27pm

re: #89 Mattand
Re
…Worst financial American crisis since the Great Depression? GOP in charge…

Add: The Great Depression: GOP in charge

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 11, 2014 2:59:09pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Didn’t add to your epic downdings, because the style was civil and the passionate dedication to a useless cause is permissible here. OTOH, I live between an Auburn fan and a ‘Bama fan.

Similar sentiments. Especially here where Bears/Viking/Packers fans are about equal (tourist town, ya know).

153 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 2:59:22pm

Man, if I keep this up I’ll find myself in emergency room. Last night when I went out to walk the poopers, I mis-stepped and fell on the edge of the patio, falling with my knee meeting concrete at great velocity. OW! This morning as I was getting down on the floor to give my spaniel (who was in his hidey hole to avoid getting more drops squirted in his eyes) his morning cheese-enveloped pills, I cracked my head on the table, right between the eyes. I saw stars. Just now I was washing dishes, dropped a wet glass and cut my damn hand on a shard.

I think I’ll start drinking. Can’t do any worse. Sheesh.

154 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 3:00:26pm

re: #153 allegro

Man, if I keep this up I’ll find myself in emergency room. Last night when I went out to walk the poopers, I mis-stepped and fell on the edge of the patio, falling with my knee meeting concrete at great velocity. OW! This morning as I was getting down on the floor to give my spaniel (who was in his hidey hole to avoid getting more drops squirted in his eyes) his morning cheese-enveloped pills, I cracked my head on the table, right between the eyes. I saw stars. Just now I was washing dishes, dropped a wet glass and cut my damn hand on a shard.

I think I’ll start drinking. Can’t do any worse. Sheesh.

The dogs are in this together.

155 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 3:01:56pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker

I left you a present over on your page.

People need to understand how selective your ethics are.

I left him a little present too, though it’s not like he gives a damn.

BTW, how did you embed your post with a button like that?

156 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 3:02:36pm

re: #153 allegro

I think I’ll start drinking. Can’t do any worse. Sheesh.

Plastic cup.

/

157 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 3:03:25pm
158 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 3:05:21pm
159 BlueGrl21  Oct 11, 2014 3:06:19pm

re: #139 NotAgain

Rude? Offensive? Hey this is Texas. Go Wendy! Knock him down and kick him, cut off his legs, then call him Shorty and tell him to get up. . That’s what they do to Obama, so taste it yourself Giant Oligarch Party. That’s how it’s done in Texas.
But do remember to smile sweetly.

Exactly. We don’t play.

160 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 3:07:47pm

Retweet the original:

161 Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2014 3:07:51pm

re: #139 NotAgain

Rude? Offensive? Hey this is Texas. Go Wendy! Knock him down and kick him, cut off his legs, then call him Shorty and tell him to get up. . That’s what they do to Obama, so taste it yourself Giant Oligarch Party. That’s how it’s done in Texas.
But do remember to smile sweetly.

Don’t forget to work “Bless his heart” somewhere in there.

162 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 11, 2014 3:17:01pm
163 Kid A  Oct 11, 2014 3:26:13pm

Last night.

164 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 3:29:08pm

Yesterday:

Today:

This explains what they are protesting.

165 Kid A  Oct 11, 2014 3:36:13pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Thirty-seven down dings, take a bow.

166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 3:37:57pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

wow.
no other words.

167 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 3:38:42pm

re: #165 Kid A

Thirty-seven down dings, take a bow.

Badge of honor for him, no doubt.

168 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2014 3:42:00pm

re: #111 darthstar

Geraldo’s posing with his shirt off…again…while talking Benghazi.

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Dude, use a click to reveal tag from now on with his selfies. I’m beggin ya.

169 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 3:45:59pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

Badge of honor for him, no doubt.

I just read something by an editor at NRO that I agree with. [Picks up jaw.] Just to enhance my downding, I’m not going to tell Dark what it is.

170 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 3:47:18pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

I just read something by an editor at NRO that I agree with.

Even a broken squirrel finds a nut twice a day.

171 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 3:49:03pm

re: #170 Interesting Times

Even a broken squirrel finds a nut twice a day.

I’m not even going to look at what else the guy (of course it’s a guy) has written and spoil it. He has worked at two other publications that I avoid because they are vile.

172 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 3:49:28pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

I just read something by an editor at NRO that I agree with. [Picks up jaw.] Just to enhance my downding, I’m not going to tell Dark what it is.

Most excellent idea for torture! :D

173 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 3:51:32pm
174 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2014 3:52:45pm
175 Jenner7  Oct 11, 2014 3:54:08pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Yes, we need more obstructionist Republicans in office….

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 3:57:06pm

re: #173 Ryan King

OK, that made me laugh.

177 Kid A  Oct 11, 2014 3:57:36pm

re: #174 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry, everyone.

178 Kid A  Oct 11, 2014 4:00:39pm

179 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 4:01:29pm

re: #173 Ryan King

Comic Sans

does it improve any if the serifim are put back in?

180 freetoken  Oct 11, 2014 4:04:44pm

re: #80 jaunte

Lack of empathy is nothing we haven’t seen before in politics, but it takes an extra special kind of nasty to grab your $10 million insurance settlement after an accident (caused by a storm, no less) and then work hard to cut that opportunity off for everyone else.

A point which I wish was even more explicitly stated in the advert. While people in Texas might know this, I bet a lot of people don’t.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:08:29pm

re: #180 freetoken

A point which I wish was even more explicitly stated in the advert. While people in Texas might know this, I bet a lot of people don’t.

I’m not in Texas and I knew that a long time ago.

182 Kid A  Oct 11, 2014 4:10:40pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not in Texas and I knew that a long time ago.

I’m in Texas and I didn’t.

183 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 4:11:56pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a Republican, but the nonsense DF spews makes me cringe.

I’m just wondering how you can consider yourself a Republican in this day and age, because it’s obvious to me that you’re not a complete RAH RAH GO TEAM GOP homer like Dark is and that you have some empathy, logic, and common sense.

I’ll be honest here: my Republican odyssey began with W and ended with McCain/Palin in 2008. I voted for W both times, first in 2000 because of an extreme dislike and distaste for Al Gore and the second in 2004 because I had bought into the bullshit that the WH and their sycophants in the media (such as Rush, Hannity, and Liddy, to name a couple) was shoveling, over Iraq, Afghanistan, tax cuts, and most everything else. It wasn’t until after the 2008 elections, in which I bought McCain/Palin’s bullshit too and voted for them, in part because of all of the fearmongering about (now-President) Obama, that I turned it around and came to my senses about what the GOP was and had become; Charles’ repudiation of the right and the following upheaval here and elsewhere helped me a lot to come to that point.

I’m not proud of what I did or said during my time in the belly of the GOP beast (including a lot of comments here in that time frame), but I’m owning it, because it’s a part of who I am now, but I’m doing my damnedest to not be fooled again and let my basest nature override my senses.

It’s not shameful to say that you didn’t leave the GOP (if you eventually do that officially), the GOP left you.

184 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 4:16:43pm

Yep…

185 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 4:17:58pm

re: #180 freetoken

A point which I wish was even more explicitly stated in the advert. While people in Texas might know this, I bet a lot of people don’t.

It’s worth telling the story again and again. Most people aren’t paying attention, and the GOP relies on that.

186 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:23:19pm

re: #114 darthstar

It’s so wrong:)

187 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2014 4:24:41pm

re: #178 Kid A

I can see Ebola from my house!

188 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 4:24:59pm

re: #183 TedStriker

…snip
I’m not proud of what I did or said during my time in the belly of the GOP beast (including a lot of comments here in that time frame), but I’m owning it, because it’s a part of who I am now, but I’m doing my damnedest to not be fooled again and let my basest nature override my senses.

(together) “Hello, Ted”

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:26:01pm

re: #183 TedStriker

As I explained earlier in the thread, I’m a Republican because all the local county offices are decided during the Republican primary in May because the Democratic party here locally is very weak.
I’m also what is today considered an Eisenhower Republican (aka these days = RINO): fiscally sensible (yes, taxes are not evil), very supportive of social issues and also very wary of the military-industrial complex.
True story: The local Democratic organization couldn’t find anyone to be president a couple of years ago and they asked me. I told them they needed to find a reasonable Democrat.
The reason I refused is because Rand Paul Libertarians are taking over the Republican party here, both locally and state-wide (that’s how our local County Judge Executive ended up becoming our congresscritter in DC), and I didn’t want to give up my vote to oppose that, because we have closed primaries.
They ended up getting another Republican to change party affiliation to be president.
This is much more than the tea party lunatics redefining “conservative” as it relates to the GOP, it’s about the Paulians making serious inroads on the GOP by preying on fears.
Sadly, I don’t think many people are seeing what’s happening. And many of those who do see it are having a difficult time coming up with strategies to deal with it.

190 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:27:03pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry, but the correct term for an “Eisenhower Republican” these days is “commie”.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:27:38pm

re: #190 Skip Intro

I’m sorry, but the correct term for an “Eisenhower Republican” these days is “commie”.

yes…I know…

192 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:33:04pm

Just another day in America.

Man dressed as zombie killed by bus at Idaho corn maze

sfgate.com

193 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 4:34:04pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I explained earlier in the thread, I’m a Republican because all the local county offices are decided during the Republican primary in May because the Democratic party here locally is very weak.
I’m also what is today considered an Eisenhower Republican (aka these days = RINO): fiscally sensible (yes, taxes are not evil), very supportive of social issues and also very wary of the military-industrial complex….snip

(togrther) “Hello, Backwoods”

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:34:24pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

(togrther) “Hello, Backwoods”

indeed.

195 lostlakehiker  Oct 11, 2014 4:34:39pm

re: #10 jaunte

It was in his capacity as AG:

It all depends on what kind of work the woman did. Some work can’t be performed without top-notch working-order legs. But there’s other work for which an artificial leg is no significant hindrance. So before concluding that the woman was in the right, I’d like to know what sort of work she was doing before the injury.

196 Stanley Seabola  Oct 11, 2014 4:34:59pm

re: #192 Skip Intro

Just another day in America.

Man dressed as zombie killed by bus at Idaho corn maze

sfgate.com

:(

197 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 4:35:26pm

re: #190 Skip Intro

I’m sorry, but the correct term for an “Eisenhower Republican” these days is “commie”.

“Commie RINO”…get it right!

/semi

198 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:35:49pm

re: #192 Skip Intro

Zombies of the corn.

199 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:37:24pm

re: #198 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Zombies of the corn.

great band name!
oh, and a song as well!

200 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2014 4:38:46pm

Good evening Lizards.

Laptop is back on-line. Issues traced today to a back power converter - so a new one was purchased, battery has recharged, and things computer are back to normal.

I will probably order a new battery shortly in any case since I expect this one, being ~6 years old, is probably going to be an issue at some point.

201 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:41:14pm

re: #198 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Zombies of the corn.

That could be a Steven King “twofer” movie. Demon controlled buses killing zombies in corn fields.

Hey, make it a triple.

202 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 4:41:31pm
203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:41:49pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two essential elements of the American horror. Add something gothic and something chainsaw and you got a perfect mix./

204 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:42:35pm

re: #202 ausador
OK, Sparkles is my new name for Chuck Johnson.

205 jamesfirecat  Oct 11, 2014 4:43:46pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

Sorry to have to down ding you DF but what makes this ad “Nasty” exactly?

Is she mistaken or is it just the old saying “if you promise to stop liking about me I promise to stop telling the truth about you?”

206 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 4:44:11pm

re: #202 ausador

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Cops paying for a clown? I’d wager it was more likely only written up as a clown and ‘Sparkles’ is really a stripper.

Or am I jumping to an unfounded conclusion?

207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:44:20pm

re: #202 ausador

Of course they did. Wait. We’re not talking Russia?

208 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:44:28pm

re: #205 jamesfirecat

Sorry to have to down ding you DF but what makes this ad “Nasty” exactly?

It’s a Democratic woman who is being uppity.

209 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 4:44:54pm

re: #195 lostlakehiker

She was a food service manager, who applied more than 20 times for work with the Texas prison system but was denied.

210 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 4:45:33pm

re: #205 jamesfirecat

Sorry to have to down ding you DF but what makes this ad “Nasty” exactly?

Others in the quoted article were calling it nasty so I decided to snipe at it and piled on.

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:45:59pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Others in the quoted article were calling it nasty so I decided to snipe at it and piled on.

bullshit

212 Weet  Oct 11, 2014 4:46:43pm

re: #2 aagcobb

She’s not finished because of the ad. She has never been in the race to begin with. Texas is just too Republican for her to have any chance of winning.

First, you’re using that RW polling site to support your statement. Really, you shouldn’t use them — they cherry-pick polls. Next: Texas is not ‘too Republican’. People here don’t vote, and that’s our problem. We were 2nd worst in 2012, ~40% voted. (Hawaii was 1st.) Texas is a purple state. What Democrats are focusing on is getting registrations up, and they are succeeding. It’s a big state, and it’s going to take a while, but we’ll get there. Also, Wendy actually does have a chance. It’s slight, but she does. It’s important to run, get our voices out there, give people new ideas, and speak some truth statewide about the criminal Rethugs.

213 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 4:46:50pm

re: #195 lostlakehiker

It all depends on what kind of work the woman did. Some work can’t be performed without top-notch working-order legs. But there’s other work for which an artificial leg is no significant hindrance. So before concluding that the woman was in the right, I’d like to know what sort of work she was doing before the injury.

What about the blind person and the two deaf people?

214 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:47:45pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Others in the quoted article were calling it nasty so I decided to snipe at it and piled on.

Damn. This is so cute I dunno whether to up- or down ding ;)

215 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 4:47:58pm
more than 20 times for work

Check that. 14 times.

216 Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2014 4:48:58pm

Bravo on that -40….been awhile since we’ve such a steaming pile of drive-by drivel.

Bravo

217 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:49:05pm

Miss Sparkles.

218 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 4:49:37pm

re: #212 Weet

First, you’re using that RW polling site to support your statement. Really, you shouldn’t use them — they cherry-pick polls. Next: Texas is not ‘too Republican’. People here don’t vote, and that’s our problem. We were 2nd worst in 2012, ~40% voted. (Hawaii was 1st.) Texas is a purple state. What Democrats are focusing on is getting registrations up, and they are succeeding. It’s a big state, and it’s going to take a while, but we’ll get there. Also, Wendy actually does have a chance. It’s slight, but she does. It’s important to run, get our voices out there, give people new ideas, and speak some truth statewide about the criminal Rethugs.

That’s the spirit!

219 A Mom Anon  Oct 11, 2014 4:49:38pm

re: #195 lostlakehiker

Seriously? A prosthetic doesn’t fix everything and make life totally normal again. Yes the technology is amazing for prosthetics today, but it’s not the same and your life isn’t the same. Not to mention that getting the right prosthetic limb is insanely expensive and they have to be replaced from time to time. There’s physical therapies and psychological therapy too. It’s not like you go to the new leg store, go home and you’re back to work.

Losing a leg is a disability. If that doesn’t qualify, then what the hell does? Is it only people in wheelchairs? People who are bedridden? What?

220 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 4:50:05pm
“…The court concluded that although Little walked with a slight limp, could not “sit or walk like other people,” “walk quickly,” or “run at all,” she did not have an actual disability because her physical impairment did not substantially limit her in the major life activities of walking or running.
11 Turning to the other prongs in the definition of disability, the court concluded that, despite Little’s past experience and the employer’s awareness of her impairment, there was insufficient evidence that the employer regarded Little as having a disability.
12 Finally, despite the fact that Little had detailed her impairment on her application forms, had been without a leg for a year, and needed a cane to walk for several years thereafter, the court concluded that there was insufficient evidence of a record of a disability.
questia.com

It’s only a flesh wound!

221 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 4:51:23pm
The court concluded that although Little walked with a slight limp, could not “sit or walk like other people,” “walk quickly,” or “run at all,” she did not have an actual disability because her physical impairment did not substantially limit her in the major life activities of walking or running.

Read that one again.

222 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 4:52:09pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

bullshit

That word is in fact used in the article:

“Wendy Davis is running one of the nastiest campaign ads you’ll ever see,” The Washington Post blared.

A “historic low” is how the attack ad was described by the Abbott campaign, which saw fellow Republicans rally to his side and issue demands that she pull down the ad.

Even liberal Mother Jones magazine unloaded on Davis, a Democrat.

“It’s offensive and nasty and it shouldn’t exist,” wrote Ben Dreyfess. “She’s basically calling Abbott a cripple.”

I posted what I posted because I was gleeful over Wendy Davis’s misstep. Sometimes I enjoy watching others make mistakes and fail. I know I shouldn’t, but I do.

This is not a defense, just an explanation.

223 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 4:52:23pm

re: #221 jaunte

Read that one again.

Tell that to Greg Abbott.

224 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 4:52:24pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I explained earlier in the thread, I’m a Republican because all the local county offices are decided during the Republican primary in May because the Democratic party here locally is very weak.
I’m also what is today considered an Eisenhower Republican (aka these days = RINO): fiscally sensible (yes, taxes are not evil), very supportive of social issues and also very wary of the military-industrial complex.
True story: The local Democratic organization couldn’t find anyone to be president a couple of years ago and they asked me. I told them they needed to find a reasonable Democrat.
The reason I refused is because Rand Paul Libertarians are taking over the Republican party here, both locally and state-wide (that’s how our local County Judge Executive ended up becoming our congresscritter in DC), and I didn’t want to give up my vote to oppose that, because we have closed primaries.
They ended up getting another Republican to change party affiliation to be president.
This is much more than the tea party lunatics redefining “conservative” as it relates to the GOP, it’s about the Paulians making serious inroads on the GOP by preying on fears.
Sadly, I don’t think many people are seeing what’s happening. And many of those who do see it are having a difficult time coming up with strategies to deal with it.

That really blows and I kind of know the deal: I live in Nashville, one of the few Democratic oases in a blood-red Tennessee. We have a GOP governor, a GOP super-majority on our Capitol Hill in which the Democrats (mostly from Nashville, Memphis, and the other large cities) can really do no more than offer token resistance, and the overwhelming majority of our Congressional delegation are either TPGOPers or pandering to them (I’m looking at you, Lamar!).

I can understand wanting to work from the inside of your local GOP to fight off the encroachments of the TPers and the Paulians, but there’s a time when you have to fish or cut bait. IMO, at this point, the GOP as it is currently is absolutely rotten to the core, because the inmates now run the asylum and the establishment types are too scared of them to give them the boot, because they need those folks to compete with the Democrats in any meaningful way.

You really are between a rock and a hard place where you are, but helping to strengthen the Democratic opposition may do a lot to help curb your local GOP’s slide towards the crazy zone.

225 Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2014 4:52:54pm

SO NASTY!!!!!!!!!

226 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 4:53:45pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Others in the quoted article were calling it nasty so I decided to snipe at it and piled on.

227 Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2014 4:53:58pm
The court concluded that although Little walked with a slight limp, could not “sit or walk like other people,” “walk quickly,” or “run at all,” she did not have an actual disability because her physical impairment did not substantially limit her in the major life activities of walking or running.

Is Clarence Thomas moonlighting these days?

228 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 4:54:28pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

That word is in fact used in the article:

I posted what I posted because I was gleeful over Wendy Davis’s misstep. Sometimes I enjoy watching others make mistakes and fail. I know I shouldn’t, but I do.

This is not a defense, just an explanation.

Do you have an explanation for your continuing support for the sexist, racist, homophobic, pro-forced-birth, fiscally irresponsible party you keep rooting for?

229 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 4:54:57pm

re: #216 Dr. Matt

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Bravo on that -40….been awhile since we’ve such a steaming pile of drive-by drivel.

Bravo

It’s not annefrance territory, but it’s still pretty damn repugnant.

230 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 4:55:51pm

re: #221 jaunte

Read that one again.

My Dad fits that description exactly, is legally considered disabled.

231 Boyo  Oct 11, 2014 4:56:29pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Wendy Davis’s misstep.

what misstep?

232 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:56:31pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

That word is in fact used in the article:

I posted what I posted because I was gleeful over Wendy Davis’s misstep. Sometimes I enjoy watching others make mistakes and fail. I know I shouldn’t, but I do.

This is not a defense, just an explanation.

again, bullshit.
You said what you said. You did NOT add snark tag. Nor did you gopsplain that you were sniping on the original article.
Good grief, DF. Just own up to the fact that you are all RAH RAH RAH GO TEAM.

And add your disgusting glee over Gabby Giffords, you’ve already made me sick to death to be a Republican.

233 A Mom Anon  Oct 11, 2014 4:57:01pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Dude can you not think for yourself objectively ever? Watch that ad again and pretend, just for 40 seconds, that Wendy Davis is a Republican. There is nothing there that is nasty, NOTHING at all.

You really should begin looking carefully at the people you support and what they actually stand for. Blind partisan support is just, well, immature at best.

I like you DF, I always have, but I wish you’d seriously consider the individuals you support and dig just a bit deeper before standing behind people just because the have that (R) after their name. You’re an adult, if you happen to vote for the occasional Democrat, no one has to know but you. Policy and people over Party is a good rule of thumb much of the time. Just sayin’.

234 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 4:57:23pm

235 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2014 4:57:26pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

Do you have an explanation for your continuing support for the sexist, racist, homophobic, pro-forced-birth, fiscally irresponsible party you keep rooting for?

Youtube Video

236 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 4:58:17pm

Dark, I don’t want to imagine what kind of cognitive dissonance you must go through to vote for the party of evil while remaining a decent person (I’ll ignore the question of whether one can be a decent person and vote for the GOP for now).

237 Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2014 4:58:34pm

Just a drive by post to say hi. Sleep well Lizards

238 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 4:59:21pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

I posted what I posted because I was gleeful over Wendy Davis’s misstep.

Cool. Of the GOP positions listed here, which ones do you support?

239 jamesfirecat  Oct 11, 2014 5:02:16pm

re: #238 Interesting Times

Cool. Of the GOP positions listed here, how many do you support?

Guys stop piling on DF for stuff unrelated to issue at hand we already know his support for the GOP is strongly tied to his family lets not retread that particular ground all over again.

(And DF I am sorry if I am saying things that are incorrect about you just going from memory)

240 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 5:02:33pm

**Story is old, didn’t realize, oops**

Some good news hopefully, at least she gets a new trial…

241 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 5:03:47pm

re: #226 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded image]

*snicker*

242 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:04:32pm

re: #238 Interesting Times

Cool. Of the GOP positions listed here, how many do you support?

I am not going to answer that post. i don’t agree much of with its phrasing or assumptions and I’m not going to get anywhere trying to explain my objections.

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:06:04pm

re: #224 TedStriker

We have county elections coming up this year, all of which were decided in May during the Republican primary. The incumbent I don’t like very much personally, but hes done a good job cleaning up the mess left by the previous office holder (who is now wreaking havoc in DC as a congresscritter).
The incumbent Judge Executive’s biggest challenge in the primary was another Paulian Libertarian masquerading as a Republican.
If I had switched parties to head up the local Democratic party, I would have thrown away my vote against the Libertarian in the primary.

As you said: rock vs hard place.

OTOH, I get to vote for Alison Lundergan Grimes in the general election next month. YAY!

244 Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2014 5:06:32pm

re: #239 jamesfirecat

Guys stop piling on DF for stuff unrelated to issue at hand we already know his support for the GOP is strongly tied to his family lets not retread that particular ground all over again.

(And DF I am sorry if I am saying things that are incorrect about you just going from memory)

Unrelated to the issue at hand? BS This is about politics. This is about the Democrats versus the Republicans….. Republicans that proudly represent:

I grow very tired of this shit. Just what it is about generic Republicans that you find to be so wonderful?

1) Is it their hatred of gays?

2) Is it their endemic racism?

3) Is it their endless nonsense relating to abortion and birth control?

4) Is it their ‘kill them all’ approach to foreign policy?

5) Is it their embrace of creationism and other anti-science stupidity such as climate change denial?

6) Is it their increasing reliance on Confederate ideas such as nullification?

7) Is it their desire to take us back to a new gilded age, where the abuses will be perpetual because big media is already in the bag for its masters?

8) Is it their total contempt for just about everyone who isn’t filthy rich?

9) Is it their manifest desire to wreck the economy via government inaction, provided the Democrats can be blamed?

10) Is it their track record of spending like drunk sailors when in charge, combined with irresponsible tax cuts, then turning around and pretending to care about fiscal prudence when Democrats are in charge?

If you want to play nice. Have at it. Playing nice gave us Ronny Raygun, dubyah, and the Dems losing the majority over and over. Bring your spoon to the flight, I’m bringing a flamethrower.

245 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 11, 2014 5:06:58pm

re: #239 jamesfirecat

I like DF. Despite the fact that I consider his position absolutely incoherent, if not sometimes outright evil. That doesn’t mean I won’t be pestering him about his GOP support. Familial ties are not an excuse.

246 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:06:58pm

re: #240 ausador

That story is from September of last year.

247 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 5:07:48pm
248 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 5:10:01pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That story is from September of last year.

Was just looking at that and trying to figure out what was new, not much it seems, holding hearings on the evidence that will or wont be allowed at her new trial still.

249 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:10:09pm

re: #235 Feline Fearless Leader

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Video

Great movie. I did not remember it was in German.

250 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 5:10:13pm

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

I am not going to answer that post. i don’t agree much of with its phrasing or assumptions and I’m not going to get anywhere trying to explain my objections.

Translation: you haven’t a leg to stand on when it comes to objective, factual evidence to support your position.

If you said “I vote GOP because my family insists on it”, I wouldn’t like it, but it wouldn’t nearly as galling and obnoxious as your “glee” at the prospect of reckless, plutocratic, anti-science bigots being victorious.

251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 5:10:16pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Well, i for one am glad to see Wendy Davis running a nasty ad like that, because as the article points out, it has given Scott Brown and other Republicans a club with which to throttle those Democrats who have most strongly supported her. Hopefully, her ad helps give Republicans momentum with which to defeat other Democratic hopefuls.

WELL SAID, Old Chum!

I had to put down my glass of laudanum and applaud! Well, actually I had my footman applaud.

What these damned rabble don’t get is that politics is for gentleman! That nasty prole blonde will just dirty up the works with her foul manners. Thieves and whores trying to rise above their station, rot our moral fiber. I’ll not stand for any woman I mount killing that sacred child that I shall neither acknowledge nor allowance. Clearly this Davis not wanting a husband, but a vigrous go with a knout. A woman’s place is whichever narrow closet her husband allocates her. Changing the rules to impede her filibuster? Nonsense, she should have been made to plead her case dragged around the building as Hector by Achilles.

And, by God, gentleman must stand for gentleman, lest godless socialism take us all. The spark of nobility and moral certitude rests in our bosoms, unspotted by the whoremongering, graft, or the creeping syphilitic delusions that lead to knifing chambermaids. The greater good requires that we out-thieve the thieves…and if we did not whore, how would whores understand their lot? Every graft I take is coins that won’t fall into the hands of an orphan with uppity notions.

Ah! But now my girdle is tightened and the pineapples are greased. It is away to the Hellfire Club for me.

You are the shield of the nobility, good sir. You stand athwart the foul and the morally diseased, checking their advance upon the great and good too bloated and deranged by venereal complaints to abscond in a timely manner.

252 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 5:11:48pm

re: #245 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Familial ties are not an excuse.

Exactly, family ties are the opposite of an excuse. They’re a pathetic crutch, a tacit admission of brainwashing indoctrination. A person pointing to their family to explain why they think the way they do is basically saying that they never actually grew up and became a fully functioning adult, capable of navigating issues and reasoning for themselves.

There is literally nothing to respect about such a statement.

253 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 5:11:56pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

Do you have an explanation for your continuing support for the sexist, racist, homophobic, pro-forced-birth, fiscally irresponsible party you keep rooting for?

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

again, bullshit.
You said what you said. You did NOT add snark tag. Nor did you gopsplain that you were sniping on the original article.
Good grief, DF. Just own up to the fact that you are all RAH RAH RAH GO TEAM.

And add your disgusting glee over Gabby Giffords, you’ve already made me sick to death to be a Republican.

re: #233 A Mom Anon

Dude can you not think for yourself objectively ever? Watch that ad again and pretend, just for 40 seconds, that Wendy Davis is a Republican. There is nothing there that is nasty, NOTHING at all.

You really should begin looking carefully at the people you support and what they actually stand for. Blind partisan support is just, well, immature at best.

I like you DF, I always have, but I wish you’d seriously consider the individuals you support and dig just a bit deeper before standing behind people just because the have that (R) after their name. You’re an adult, if you happen to vote for the occasional Democrat, no one has to know but you. Policy and people over Party is a good rule of thumb much of the time. Just sayin’.

re: #236 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Dark, I don’t want to imagine what kind of cognitive dissonance you must go through to vote for the party of evil while remaining a decent person (I’ll ignore the question of whether one can be a decent person and vote for the GOP for now).

Now, y’all now that Dark will never put up a substantive, sensical answer to you, even after all these years, which is one reason he’s now on my GAZE list.

254 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:12:58pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

That makes great bookends with this.

I hope you are paid handsomely for your writing, somewhere. The rate’s not great here.

255 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 5:13:28pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have county elections coming up this year, all of which were decided in May during the Republican primary. The incumbent I don’t like very much personally, but hes done a good job cleaning up the mess left by the previous office holder (who is now wreaking havoc in DC as a congresscritter).
The incumbent Judge Executive’s biggest challenge in the primary was another Paulian Libertarian masquerading as a Republican.
If I had switched parties to head up the local Democratic party, I would have thrown away my vote against the Libertarian in the primary.

As you said: rock vs hard place.

OTOH, I get to vote for Alison Lundergan Grimes in the general election next month. YAY!

At least that’s a bright spot…

256 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 5:13:58pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Two essential elements of the American horror. Add something gothic and something chainsaw and you got a perfect mix./

Heh. Camped out with a bunch of Catholic kids from wife’s church in an abandoned convent. (Doing Katrina relief). Kept them up with tales of Sister Mary Kruger.

257 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 5:14:11pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, family ties are the opposite of an excuse. They’re a pathetic crutch, a tacit admission of brainwashing indoctrination A person pointing to their family to explain why they think the way they do is basically saying that they never actually grew up and became a fully functioning adult, capable of navigating issues and reasoning for themselves.

There is literally nothing to respect about such a statement.

Pretty much.

258 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 5:16:06pm

re: #247 jaunte

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Yes, think of all the desperate women he’s protecting from legal, affordable abortions. But hey the ten commandments monument still stands at the Dallas courthouse (his biggest and proudest accomplishment as he said in both debates). Women bleeding to death from the rising number of illegal abortions can lean on that, right? So can the women with advanced breast and uterine cancer that went undetected because the health centers were shut down and there is no Medicaide in Texas so hospitals are right out as well.

Jesus, I better stop now.

259 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:16:16pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That story is from September of last year.

To be helpful and to ‘stop digging’, I did a Google search and found that Marissa Alexander did in fact have a hear this past week. Here is a newspaper article on the hearing:


Defense argues Marissa Alexander’s estranged husband has history of abusing partners, who say he did just that

The father of Marissa Alexander’s child has had children with at least three other women, and Thursday each of those women testified that Rico Gray has abused them.

In taking the stand as part of a pretrial hearing all three women, an ex-wife and two former girlfriends, changed their stories, having previously said under oath Rico Gray never abused them.

Alexander, 34, faces a potential 60-year prison term for firing a shot in the direction of Gray and two of his children from previous relationships. She is charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a weapon, and is asserting she fired the shot in self defense because Gray had just beaten her and was about to beat her again.

Alexander had given birth to Gray’s child nine days before the incident happened in August 2010.

Circuit Judge James Daniel will have to decide whether the other mothers of Gray’s children will be allowed to testify on her behalf when Alexander’s trial begins on Dec. 1. Attorneys for Alexander argue that it shows a pattern of abuse that strengthens their clients self-defense claim.

260 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:16:40pm

re: #253 TedStriker

Now, y’all now that Dark will never put up a substantive, sensical answer to you, even after all these years, which is one reason he’s now on my GAZE list.

heh

261 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 5:17:14pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

Approves!

262 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 11, 2014 5:18:36pm

re: #245 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I like DF. Despite the fact that I consider his position absolutely incoherent, if not sometimes outright evil. That doesn’t mean I won’t be pestering him about his GOP support. Familial ties are not an excuse.

I like him as well. I’ve seen him do the right thing just often enough to know he’s a good person inside. He’s grown since I’ve been here & i hope that’ll continue.

Lord knows there are enough of us here that have our own knee jerk issues as well.

263 stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2014 5:18:46pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, family ties are the opposite of an excuse. They’re a pathetic crutch, a tacit admission of brainwashing indoctrination A person pointing to their family to explain why they think the way they do is basically saying that they never actually grew up and became a fully functioning adult, capable of navigating issues and reasoning for themselves.

There is literally nothing to respect about such a statement.

Maybe they’ve managed to convince DF that it’s dangerous to be in a voting booth without parental supervision.

264 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 5:20:13pm

re: #262 William Barnett-Lewis

…snip

Lord knows there are enough of us here that have our own knee jerk issues as well.

IS THAT ANOTHER ABBOT JOKE?

265 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 11, 2014 5:20:55pm

re: #264 Decatur Deb

IS THAT ANOTHER ABBOT JOKE?

Wish it were! But alas, I didn’t think of it :D

266 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:22:17pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to post one more bit from the article, because I think it illustrates a serious problem GGT has often called attention to:

Prosecutors are expected to argue that Gray’s previous history has no bearing on this trial. During Thursday’s hearing Assistant State Attorney Rich Mantei said Alexander couldn’t use the abuse of other women as a defense for her actions unless she knew about the abuse.

Mantei also said that since Alexander is claiming self defense, Gray’s previous actions are irrelevant because she has to prove she was acting to defend herself.

As for Mr. Mantei’s position, I must reply that Rico Gray’s prior bad acts damn well are relevant, because they help prove Alexander’s fears were valid. It sounds very much to me as if he does not understand much about domestic abuse.

267 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 5:22:36pm

No way the trolls let this pass, I’m sure all the usual suspects are whooping it up in fine racist fashion already. :(

Oops: Michelle Obama Mispronounces Senate Candidate’s Name… Seven Times

So she said Bailey instead of Braley, pretty easy one to flub if you ask me.

268 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 5:24:31pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

That word is in fact used in the article:

I posted what I posted because I was gleeful over Wendy Davis’s misstep. Sometimes I enjoy watching others make mistakes and fail. I know I shouldn’t, but I do.

This is not a defense, just an explanation.

You discredit yourself.

You do the work of the Good Lord Himself.

Failures are for the lower orders and wogs! A manly, gleaming Caucasian beacon of civilization can only mistep before ultimate triumph!

This very night I have befouled myself and yet remain a shining triumph of cultivated society. A trollop of Cathay shall swab me clean and tomorrow I shall receive special blessing from my confessor, for I am worthy.

And who are we, mere maggots crawling on the dull earth, to question what is set out in Scripture that I myself have paid to have interpreted; in a tabernacle that I have paid to have built; by a worthy man of God whose salary I pay, to who I loaned a pineapple this very evening.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:24:57pm

re: #267 ausador

Really, I am getting sooooo sick and tired of the “conservative Republican” label.
Assholes. All of them.

270 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 5:25:21pm
271 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 11, 2014 5:25:59pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

Is there a hand clapping gif out there? Damn fine work, Ole Chum.

272 Stanley Seabola  Oct 11, 2014 5:26:49pm

re: #267 ausador

No way the trolls let this pass, I’m sure all the usual suspects are whooping it up in fine racist fashion already. :(

Oops: Michelle Obama Mispronounces Senate Candidate’s Name… Seven Times

So she said Bailey instead of Braley, pretty easy one to flub if you ask me.

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He loves him some Sister Sarah.

273 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:29:32pm

re: #267 ausador

No way the trolls let this pass, I’m sure all the usual suspects are whooping it up in fine racist fashion already. :(

Oops: Michelle Obama Mispronounces Senate Candidate’s Name… Seven Times

So she said Bailey instead of Braley, pretty easy one to flub if you ask me.

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It’s not major, I agree. The mistakes she made were made honestly and were corrected as soon as she realized they’d been made. Good for a minor news post, but ultimately not substantial.

274 goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2014 5:29:52pm

re: #268 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

275 urbanmeemaw  Oct 11, 2014 5:30:58pm

re: #15 Ryan King

That was the point Booman made. Davis’ ad is not targeted at Abbot personally. The ad simply points out that Abbot wants to deny litigants what he himself was awarded.

276 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 5:31:08pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

An excellent example of authentic Republican patrician gibberish, my dear man. Bravo.

277 Boyo  Oct 11, 2014 5:31:50pm

The Ghost of a Flea (R), I am reading your posts out loud complete with hand twirling, mustache twirling and gesticulations and I’m loving it.

278 stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2014 5:31:51pm

re: #267 ausador

No way the trolls let this pass, I’m sure all the usual suspects are whooping it up in fine racist fashion already. :(

Oops: Michelle Obama Mispronounces Senate Candidate’s Name… Seven Times

So she said Bailey instead of Braley, pretty easy one to flub if you ask me.

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It might have gone unnoticed if she hadn’t also taken a few shots at House Speaker Broehner.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:33:09pm

re: #278 stpaulbear

It might have gone unnoticed if she hadn’t also taken a few shots at House Speaker Broehner.

low hanging fruit…

280 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 5:34:52pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

low hanging fruit…

If she didn’t call him Boner his fruit is still hanging.

281 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 5:34:55pm


The Spiders featuring Alice Cooper, 1966. I saw these cats in Phoenix that year. They were tight and the audience was insane (maybe because nobody played Phoenix in those days). Best show I saw in Phoenix until the creation of the Tubes.

282 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:36:25pm

re: #258 allegro

Yes, think of all the desperate women he’s protecting from legal, affordable abortions. But hey the ten commandments monument still stands at the Dallas courthouse (his biggest and proudest accomplishment as he said in both debates). Women bleeding to death from the rising number of illegal abortions can lean on that, right? So can the women with advanced breast and uterine cancer that went undetected because the health centers were shut down and there is no Medicaide in Texas so hospitals are right out as well.

Jesus, I better stop now.

I think Dark’s view on abortion has shifted a tiny bit over the years. Perhaps a rereading of this would shift it further.

283 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 5:37:40pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

An excellent example of authentic Republican patrician gibberish, my dear man. Bravo.

Some nights, you stand on a balcony, throwing peanuts at your catamite as he rides a penny farthing about the courtyard and weeping, and you understand, by Jove, that the great unwashed must occasionally be anointed with the words of the high.

As the angel before Jacob’s ladder, I shall break your legs to improve you.

Now thank me.

284 stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2014 5:38:57pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t jump like I used to…

285 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 5:40:21pm
286 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:40:45pm

re: #284 stpaulbear

I can’t jump like I used to…

Me either…but I still have the memories…

287 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 5:41:11pm

Followed a mainstream singer down the Youtube hole, and hit this group. They do second-string baroque and folk on early instruments, including a new one for me—the theorbo. (It’s basically a bull lute.) They take some liberties, but show great skill and joy.

L’Arpeggiata: Bertali: Chiacona

Youtube Video

288 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:44:13pm

Shaun King writes about this:

289 Romantic Heretic  Oct 11, 2014 5:45:29pm

re: #247 jaunte

He never said he did anything good, just ‘more for women.’

290 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 5:47:11pm

OT: You know how people are screeching about how horrible ISIS/IL is. how they’re the worst, most brutal group ever? Yeah, they’re really disgusting, but the Mexican cartels have them beat in terms of brutality.

Someone (ww, I think) posted a link (tweet?) that went to an article at the NY Times about some students in Mexico that have been killed (or are missing):

The next morning, the corpse of a student was dumped on a major street. He’d had his skin peeled off and his eyes gouged out. It was the mark of drug cartel assassins.

Soldiers and federal detectives detained two alleged cartel hit men, who confessed they had conspired with the police to murder students. They led troops to pits on the outskirts of Iguala containing 28 charred corpses. Forensic teams are working to identify the bodies. A total of 43 students went missing that night, many last seen being bundled into police cars. […]

Out of curiosity I (foolishly) goggled mexican cartel assassination. The extreme levels of violence I saw doesn’t make ISIS any less reprehensible, but their scariness as bogeymen takes a back seat to the cartel guys, especially since the latter are much closer to home and have been killing people for years & years.

291 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 5:47:30pm

‘Nite, all.

292 Jenner7  Oct 11, 2014 5:48:25pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Spot on. Wish more politicians would have the guts to say the same.

293 compound_Idaho  Oct 11, 2014 5:48:36pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

True enough. Mispronouncing a name is understandable. This however is just embarrassing on multiple levels. OBGYN? (Ohbee-Guynee)

Youtube Video

294 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:49:00pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

Followed a mainstream singer down the Youtube hole, and hit this group. They do second-string baroque and folk on early instruments, including a new one for me—the theobro. (It’s basically a bull lute.) They take some liberties, but show great skill and joy.

L’Arpeggiata: Bertali: Chiacona

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Video

That was lovely.

295 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 5:49:22pm

re: #290 CuriousLurker

OT: You know how people are screeching about how horrible ISIS/IL is. how they’re the worst, most brutal group ever? Yeah, they’re really disgusting, but the Mexican cartels have them beat in terms of brutality.

Someone (ww, I think) posted a link (tweet?) that went to an article at the NY Times about some students in Mexico that have been killed (or are missing):

Out of curiosity I (foolishly) goggled mexican cartel assassination. The extreme levels of violence I saw doesn’t make ISIS any less reprehensible, but their scariness as bogeymen takes a back seat to the cartel guys, especially since they’re much closer to home and have been killing people for years & years.

WW posted it at #164

296 EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2014 5:50:25pm

re: #239 jamesfirecat

Guys stop piling on DF for stuff unrelated to issue at hand we already know his support for the GOP is strongly tied to his family lets not retread that particular ground all over again.

(And DF I am sorry if I am saying things that are incorrect about you just going from memory)

Nope. I won’t be nasty about it, but I meant what I said when I said that there is no excuse for voting GOP at the Federal level. That is straight up support of evil. If there are personal issues behind it, then that shit can’t be allowed to have splash damage affecting the civil rights of well over half the country.

297 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:50:47pm

re: #293 compound_Idaho

True enough. Mispronouncing a name is understandable. This however is just embarrassing on multiple levels. OBGYN? (Ohbee-Guynee)

Which levels would those be?

298 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 5:51:20pm
299 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:51:21pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Thanks for reminding me to post this story:

Former Rep. Gabby Giffords’ pro-gun-control group has taken down a harsh ad against Arizona House candidate Martha McSally after the Republican explained her position on allowing stalkers to buy guns.

The ad features a woman named Vicki who recounts how her 19-year-old daughter was hunted down and murdered by an enraged ex-boyfriend, while a narrator says McSally, who is running for Giffords’ old seat in Congress, “opposes making it harder for stalkers to get a gun.”

SNIP

he decision to take down the ad 24 hours before it was scheduled to go off the air was made based what Pia Carusone, executive director for Americans for Responsible Solutions, described as a change in McSally’s position.

The group, which includes a super PAC and nonprofit arm, is supporting Democratic Rep. Ron Barber, a former aide to Giffords, against McSally.

Carusone said the group received a letter from McSally’s campaign laying out the Republican’s position on access to guns for stalkers convicted of felonies and misdemeanors.

McSally “supports the full enforcement of federal laws that are in place to keep guns out of the hands of prohibited persons, including convicted felons (including stalkers), domestic abusers, the mentally ill, and people in the country illegally,” the letter states. It goes on to stress that McSally also “supports adding misdemeanor stalking to the list of criminal offenses that would keep dangerous individuals from obtaining guns in other states where stalking can also be a misdemeanor.”

I know this piece is two weeks old, but I only saw it on Thursday. I’m posting it because I respect Gabby Giffords for being a good winner. She got the person she was targeting to change her position and then when that happened she stopped pursuing that line of argument. That kind of honesty and maturity are too rare in politics today, and I was actually glad to read she possessed those traits.

300 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 5:51:24pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

WW posted it at #164

Thanks. I was too lazy & too freaked out by what I saw & read in the google results to look for it.

301 Jenner7  Oct 11, 2014 5:51:39pm

Ugh, Michelle’s flub is already on my FB feed. Time for the hate fest to begin!

302 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 5:51:52pm
303 Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2014 5:52:45pm

re: #294 wrenchwench

That was lovely.

Try this:

Youtube Video

304 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 5:57:37pm

re: #303 Decatur Deb

Try this:

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Video

More lovely!

305 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 5:57:48pm

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

I am not going to answer that post. i don’t agree much of with its phrasing or assumptions and I’m not going to get anywhere trying to explain my objections.

im sympathetic to the idea that many people think of the republican party as republicans like themselves, old line republicans who voted for eisenhower, rockefeller, nixon, and ford, or bob dole or jack kemp

people have every right to define their own beliefs and not be tarred with the brush dipped in the craziness of other people

from the point of view of people like me, tho, the old republicans i grew up with (back in that other century) are somewhere in the back seat with their mouths closed, maybe taped shut, or maybe they are locked up in the trunk

it’s awfully hard to hear them these days. personally, i wonder when the hell they are gonna start speaking up

306 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 5:59:09pm

re: #301 Jenner7

Ugh, Michelle’s flub is already on my FB feed. Time for the hate fest to begin!

Let’s try to divert attention by tweeting about an actual malefactor:

Edward Snowden: It was worth it

N.S.A. leaker Edward Snowden on Saturday defended his disclosure of reams of classified information and said his actions were worth fleeing his seemingly idyllic life in Hawaii and ending up in hiding in Russia, where he was joined by his girlfriend in July.

“It was about getting the information back to people so they could decide if they cared about it, and on that account … I could not have been more wrong in thinking that people wouldn’t care,” he told a New Yorker Festival audience Saturday afternoon via webcast from an undisclosed location in Moscow.

SNIP

nowden implied he had been vindicated by President Barack Obama, who said in January that a debate on surveillance “will make us stronger” as a country.

Obama’s statement was “very important for everybody who believes that our rights matter, our constitution matters and intelligence agencies, even if they have good intentions, can go too far, when they violate the constitution on a massive scale, that matters, and they need to be held to account for it,” he said to questions by New Yorker staff writer Jane Mayer.

SNIP

Now he’s ensconced in Moscow, where he has reunited with his girlfriend Lindsay Mills, revealed in a new documentary “Citizenfour” and a New Yorker piece published on Friday.

“She was not entirely pleased [with what happened], but at the same time, it was an incredible reunion because she understood me, and that meant a lot to me,” he said.

What any woman would see romantically in Edward Snowden positively mystifies me, but the heart has reasons of which reason knows not.

307 urbanmeemaw  Oct 11, 2014 6:00:55pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have county elections coming up this year, all of which were decided in May during the Republican primary. The incumbent I don’t like very much personally, but hes done a good job cleaning up the mess left by the previous office holder (who is now wreaking havoc in DC as a congresscritter).
The incumbent Judge Executive’s biggest challenge in the primary was another Paulian Libertarian masquerading as a Republican.
If I had switched parties to head up the local Democratic party, I would have thrown away my vote against the Libertarian in the primary.

As you said: rock vs hard place.

OTOH, I get to vote for Alison Lundergan Grimes in the general election next month. YAY!

I think the ads she’s been running the past 2 weeks are very effective. She’s finally campaigning as a straight ahead Democrat and stating what she supports. I heard the other day Grimes and McConnell were neck and neck.

308 stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2014 6:01:47pm

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

What any woman would see romantically in Edward Snowden positively mystifies me,

Her family likes him.

309 Iwouldprefernotto  Oct 11, 2014 6:01:50pm

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Let’s try to divert attention by tweeting about an actual malefactor:

Edward Snowden: It was worth it

SNIP

SNIP

What any woman would see romantically in Edward Snowden positively mystifies me, but the heart has reasons of which reason knows not.

Says the man in love with the Republican party for reasons only he understands.

310 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:02:11pm

re: #300 CuriousLurker

Thanks. I was too lazy & too freaked out by what I saw & read in the google results to look for it.

This is why fear mongers want to pair up their favorite target with the cartels. It would make anyone scarier than they already are. Mexico needs help of a kind we don’t even know how to give.

For now I suggest listening to Deb’s posts.

311 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 6:03:40pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for reminding me to post this story:

SNIP

I know this piece is two weeks old, but I only saw it on Thursday. I’m posting it because I respect Gabby Giffords for being a good winner. She got the person she was targeting to change her position and then when that happened she stopped pursuing that line of argument. That kind of honesty and maturity are too rare in politics today, and I was actually glad to read she possessed those traits.

As opposed to the mudslinger you called her?
Or nasty attacks by someone who markets herself as nice?

312 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 6:05:19pm

re: #305 dog philosopher

The first reply I’d have to that is to be careful about putting Richard Nixon in with the rest of those fellows. Nixon did a number of good things, but he ultimately ended up a vicious man who cared more about punishing those he considered enemies than obeying the law. Like Woodrow Wilson, Nixon stands as a warning of the dangers of the presidency being occupied by someone who has lost their moral bearings.

313 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:06:11pm

Possible title for The Great American Novel: Möbius Strip Club?

314 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 6:06:48pm

re: #309 Iwouldprefernotto

Might want to double-check your ding on this comment.

315 CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2014 6:07:06pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

This is why fear mongers want to pair up their favorite target with the cartels. It would make anyone scarier than they already are. Mexico needs help of a kind we don’t even know how to give.

For now I suggest listening to Deb’s posts.

I was just thinking the exact same thing about the fear mongers. Ugh.

Yeah, Mexico is a mess. It’s sad because it’s a really beautiful country with many valuable resources and a long & fascinating history. *sigh*

316 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 6:07:12pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

As opposed to the mudslinger you called her?
Or nasty attacks by someone who markets herself as nice?

As opposed to her being a mudslinger. It turns out shes something more than that. I didn’t expect that to be true, but I’m actually glad to have been proven wrong.

317 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 6:08:02pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

The first reply I’d have to that is to be careful about putting Richard Nixon in with the rest of those fellows. Nixon did a number of good things, but he ultimately ended up a viscous man who cared more about punishing those he considered enemies than obeying the law. Like Woodrow Wilson, Nixon stands as a warning of the dangers of the presidency being occupied by someone who has lost their moral bearings.

You struck me as a touch young to fully appreciate the viscosity of Nixon. Never quite knew how to appreciate a donkey show, that one.

I could tell stories, but schoolboy’s code, hahhah.

318 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:09:04pm

re: #315 CuriousLurker

I was just thinking the exact same thing about the fear mongers. Ugh.

Yeah, Mexico is a mess. It’s sad because it’s a really beautiful country with many valuable resources and a long & fascinating history. *sigh*

And wonderful people.

319 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:09:30pm


A Möbius strip, discovered independently by the German mathematicians August Ferdinand Möbius and Johann Benedict Listing in 1858. Or so says Wikipedia.

320 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 11, 2014 6:11:14pm

re: #313 De Kolta Chair

Possible title for The Great American Novel: Möbius Strip Club?

Where the dancers keep undressing until they are fully dressed again.

RBS

321 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:11:16pm

I love being able to pull up a comment in the Spy and ding it without having to visit the thread.

322 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:11:55pm

This is my nomination for Best Jack-O-lantern of 2014.

323 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 6:12:05pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

The first reply I’d have to that is to be careful about putting Richard Nixon in with the rest of those fellows. Nixon did a number of good things, but he ultimately ended up a viscous man who cared more about punishing those he considered enemies than obeying the law. Like Woodrow Wilson, Nixon stands as a warning of the dangers of the presidency being occupied by someone who has lost their moral bearings.

hmm, ive heard about this blotting of the reputation of ww, and, actually, even participated in a spirited online debate about exactly that

nationalinterest.org

i dont believe a word of it. as far as im concerned, these accusations about ww are wholecloth

however, if you want to mention a democratic president of ambiguous and often unsavory moral principles, i would suggest lbj as a much better choice

caro apologized to lady bird about when he wrote about the bad parts of lbj’s character - he said lbj combined opposites and that you just had to deal with it

324 Iwouldprefernotto  Oct 11, 2014 6:12:07pm

re: #314 Interesting Times

Might want to double-check your ding on this comment.

Don’t care, had to be said.

325 Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2014 6:12:12pm

If Abbott thinks someone who lost an arm and uses a prosthetic isn’t disabled, why hasn’t someone asked him if he thinks a military veteran who lost an arm and uses a prosthetic is disabled (and subject to the laws which protect disabled military veterans)?

326 Viscous Obama  Oct 11, 2014 6:13:14pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

You are the shield of the nobility, good sir. You stand athwart the foul and the morally diseased, checking their advance upon the great and good too bloated and deranged by venereal complaints to abscond in a timely manner.

I haven’t been around these parts for a while but this entire thread is fucking gold

327 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 6:13:38pm

re: #317 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

You struck me as a touch young to fully appreciate the viscosity of Nixon. Never quite knew how to appreciate a donkey show, that one.

I could tell stories, but schoolboy’s code, hahhah.

Thanks for letting me know of my error. Post edited.

So, first I say that sort of verbal error Michelle Obama is minor, then I go o to prove how easily it can be made. It’s a funny world sometimes. [shakes head and smiles slightly]

328 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:14:18pm

re: #322 teleskiguy


Love it!

329 Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2014 6:15:25pm
330 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:15:54pm

re: #323 dog philosopher

hmm, ive heard about this blotting of the reputation of ww, and, actually, even participated in a spirited online debate about exactly that

Say what?!?!

Oh, never mind.

331 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 6:15:55pm

re: #328 De Kolta Chair

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Love it!

Groovy!

332 Jenner7  Oct 11, 2014 6:16:14pm

I’m curious if there was an aerial shot of the #FergusonOctober taken today??? They said thousands were there, but do they have a firm number? Anyone?

333 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:16:50pm

The Ghost of a Flea, that is some of the most colorful prose I’ve ever read in an internet comments section. Well done my friend!

334 Viscous Obama  Oct 11, 2014 6:17:22pm
Nixon did a number of good things, but he ultimately ended up a viscous man

Dark Falcon gave me an idea

335 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:17:26pm

re: #331 TedStriker

Groovy!

Gimme some sugar, baby ;-)

336 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:18:12pm

re: #334 Viscous Obama

Dark Falcon gave me an idea

That’s why psychotropics were invented. //

337 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 6:18:58pm

re: #326 Aqua Obama

I haven’t been around these parts for a while but this entire thread is fucking gold

Of course it’s gold.

I do not exchange words in fiat currencies.

338 Jenner7  Oct 11, 2014 6:19:12pm

As soon as I clicked “post it”, I found a couple. lol

339 Vogon Poetry  Oct 11, 2014 6:20:20pm
340 Vogon Poetry  Oct 11, 2014 6:21:55pm

re: #338 Jenner7

The juxtaposition of the protesters outside the Old Courthouse shouldn’t be lost on anyone. That’s where the lower court decisions in the Dred Scott case were decided.

The more things change…

341 Vogon Poetry  Oct 11, 2014 6:22:56pm

And maybe the more things need to change - the NYPD ought to commit to more than just a test program on body cameras. It might help reduce paying out $80 million a year in suits annually.

342 Stanley Seabola  Oct 11, 2014 6:24:34pm

re: #332 Jenner7

I’m curious if there was an aerial shot of the #FergusonOctober taken today??? They said thousands were there, but do they have a firm number? Anyone?

Haven’t seen one.

Sure its in possession of the po lice.

343 Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2014 6:26:57pm

re: #341 lawhawk

And maybe the more things need to change - the NYPD ought to commit to more than just a test program on body cameras. It might help reduce paying out $80 million a year in suits annually.

[Embedded content]

It takes time and money to equip a department that large with body cameras, push you need to implement procedures for chain of custody for evidence, etc.

344 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:27:11pm

re: #340 lawhawk

The juxtaposition of the protesters outside the Old Courthouse shouldn’t be lost on anyone. That’s where the lower court decisions in the Dred Scott case were decided.

The more things change…

345 Varek Raith  Oct 11, 2014 6:27:26pm
The court concluded that although Little walked with a slight limp, could not “sit or walk like other people,” “walk quickly,” or “run at all,” she did not have an actual disability because her physical impairment did not substantially limit her in the major life activities of walking or running.

What the what.

346 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:28:34pm


American history is truly baffling, which is probably why I love reading about it so much. Living through it, ofttimes not so much.

347 freetoken  Oct 11, 2014 6:29:46pm

Should we now ban people coming from Michigan?

Michigan toddler dies of enterovirus infection

348 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:30:05pm
349 Varek Raith  Oct 11, 2014 6:31:16pm

Dear Republicans,
Making your views public is not a ‘nasty’ attack on your person.
Deal with it.

350 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:33:28pm

re: #320 RealityBasedSteve

Where the dancers keep undressing until they are fully dressed again.

RBS

That’s exactly why I sold the movie rights to the ghost of Russ Meyer.

351 Viscous Obama  Oct 11, 2014 6:33:38pm

Got a laugh from the MSNBC article on this story

Even the liberal Mother Jones called it “offensive and nasty.”

Even the liberal Mother Jones, yo

352 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:35:40pm

@HavanaTed is just full of zingers tonight.

353 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:37:52pm

re: #351 Viscous Obama


Mary Harris “Mother” Jones (1837 – 1930)

354 freetoken  Oct 11, 2014 6:38:15pm

The problem I see with the Davis ad is that the Davis campaign didn’t fight the “optics” war on all the fronts needed.

The outlandish hypocrisy of Abbot was ripe for picking, but the Davis campaign really needed to prep the public with a series of adverts building to the punch line.

Right now Davis’ enemies are furiously spinning this as Davis’ attack on a wheelchair. This could have been muted, perhaps, by building up the “hypocrisy” meme first and then finally delivering the wheelchair as an example.

Still, it’s never going to be an easy thing to do, to convince peoples minds that someone who themselves is a victim of an accident can turn around and be nastier all the more. Wheelchairs immediately (visually) evoke sympathy, and playing with that will always be full of side effects.

355 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 6:38:49pm

re: #345 Varek Raith

What the what.

More limbs! More!

Lost appendages has never slowed down my factory orphans. At least not as long as the foreman has the Webley trained at them.

Anyway, it’s not as though there’s a prosthetic that can surmount the handicap of low birth.

356 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:44:45pm
357 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:46:11pm

re: #355 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

More limbs! More!

Lost appendages has never slowed down my factory orphans. At least not as long as the foreman has the Webley trained at them.

Anyway, it’s not as though there’s a prosthetic that can surmount the handicap of low birth.

Thanks for the tip, especially since the price of quicklime has skyrocketed.

358 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:46:47pm

Hahhahahaahaaaa!

359 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 6:48:30pm
360 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 6:49:45pm

re: #321 wrenchwench

Totally OT, but just wanted to say that “Wuthering Tripe” was totally brilliant!
(Let the lizards figger THAT out, lol!)

361 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 11, 2014 6:52:59pm
362 Waxing Rapsodik  Oct 11, 2014 6:54:12pm

re: #356 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

That’s not a misogynistic tweet, is it?

363 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:55:18pm

re: #362 Editor in Chief

That’s not a misogynistic tweet, is it?

It’s a parody account.

364 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:56:21pm

Is this a record for “hatchling to flounce” in the shortest time possible?

Now, if someone will tell me what the Fugtitive or the FO did with my headphones, I could watch the Wendy Davis video.

365 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 6:56:23pm

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, we’re screwed now…

///

366 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:56:46pm

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

good to know it works.

367 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 6:57:33pm

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord


That makes my blood boil!

368 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 6:57:35pm

re: #359 jaunte

[Embedded content]

369 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 11, 2014 6:58:18pm

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

It’s just an old wives tale guys. What could possibly happen?

//cue theremin and distant wolf howl

370 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 6:59:08pm

re: #354 freetoken

The problem I see with the Davis ad is that the Davis campaign didn’t fight the “optics” war on all the fronts needed.

The outlandish hypocrisy of Abbot was ripe for picking, but the Davis campaign really needed to prep the public with a series of adverts building to the punch line.

Right now Davis’ enemies are furiously spinning this as Davis’ attack on a wheelchair. This could have been muted, perhaps, by building up the “hypocrisy” meme first and then finally delivering the wheelchair as an example.

Still, it’s never going to be an easy thing to do, to convince peoples minds that someone who themselves is a victim of an accident can turn around and be nastier all the more. Wheelchairs immediately (visually) evoke sympathy, and playing with that will always be full of side effects.

She actually has with a series of ads demonstrating that Abbott is “not for you.” He’s a corporate bought stooge who will always side with the moneyed interests over the people of Texas. He has featured his wheelchair heavily in his ads to make himself a sympathetic figure - hell, it’s all he’s got towards that end - so it’s entirely fair to point out the disingenuous reality along with the continuation of the corporate bought theme.

371 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 6:59:13pm

Yikes!

The release of a trove of papers from Bill Clinton’s White House puts that on stark display, illustrating common it was for people in position of power to talk about gays in horrifically discriminatory ways without consequence. The notes come from a sit-down between Bill Clinton and top military officials shortly after he moved into the White House to discuss his campaign promise to end the ban on gays in the military. The most shocking part of the notes released from that meeting come from Marine Commandant Gen. Carl Mundy, who “may have been the most strident opponent of allowing gays to serve openly,” according to Politico. Mundy, who died earlier this year, said that “proclaiming I’m gay” was the “same as I’m KKK, Nazi, rapist” because it’s a declaration that “I commit act America doesn’t accept,” according to the notes.

We’ve come a long way.

372 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 6:59:37pm

re: #330 wrenchwench

Say what?!?!

Oh, never mind.

the argument is that he hated the constitution, deducing this from the fact that he once declared that the constitution is not a dead piece of paper but relevant to modern life. therefore he must have meant it’s a ‘living document’, which is socialist fascism of the communist democrat kind

also, he brought in primaries, direct elections of senators, and th income tax, because these were all done before he took office. oh, did i mention that primaries and direct election of senators are bad things?

373 Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2014 6:59:46pm

In which we learn the REAL reason for all the pearl-clutching poutrage:

UPDATE: TX-Gov: While everyone argues about Davis’ new ad, Abbott took $120K from Clayton Williams

Now, a rich Texas Republican giving gobs of money to another rich Texas Republican running for office isn’t exactly newsworthy (although the dollar amount is—holy crap, does Texas have any donation limit for state races???). However, Williams isn’t just any Texas Republican.

For one thing, he once ran for Governor of Texas himself back in 1990.

For another, he lost that race to the legendary Ann Richards, the last Democrat to hold that position.

Most significantly, however, is why he lost that race. There may have been more than one reason, but this is almost certainly the biggest one:

ALPINE — Sitting by an early morning campfire Saturday waiting for a heavy fog to clear, Republican gubernatorial nominee Clayton Williams jokingly likened foul weather to rape, saying “if it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.”

374 The War TARDIS  Oct 11, 2014 6:59:47pm

Love triangle between Clara, Doctor, and Danny confirmed.

375 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:02:19pm

376 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:03:09pm

re: #364 FemNaziBitch

Is this a record for “hatchling to flounce” in the shortest time possible?

Now, if someone will tell me what the Fugitive or the FO did with my headphones, I could watch the Wendy Davis video.

The troll hasn’t been banned, so its not a flounce yet.

As for your headphones, the one-armed man took them.

377 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:03:24pm

re: #374 The War TARDIS

Love triangle between Clara, Doctor, and Danny confirmed.

who?

378 The War TARDIS  Oct 11, 2014 7:04:30pm

re: #377 FemNaziBitch

Yep.

Myself, after watching the episode, can come to no other conclusion.

379 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:04:51pm

re: #376 Dark_Falcon

The troll hasn’t been banned, so its not a flounce yet.

As for your headphones, the one-armed man took them.

The Fugitive, I knew it.

(for those who might have missed my late night/early morning post a day or so ago:— Feral Girl is now The Fugitive —she ate the tag from the mattress)

380 TedStriker  Oct 11, 2014 7:04:57pm

re: #377 FemNaziBitch

who?

Doctor Who.

381 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:05:37pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally OT, but just wanted to say that “Wuthering Tripe” was totally brilliant!
(Let the lizards figger THAT out, lol!)

Thanks! It blew up my mentions (15 is ‘blowing up’ for my account.) You will notify us when your hound is up for another vote? Did you have more than one dog in that hunt?

382 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:06:05pm

re: #371 teleskiguy

Yikes!

[Embedded content]

We’ve come a long way.

Right you are, and as the son of a career AF NCO I have to say nothing an officer says, no matter how ridiculously stupid, inane or flat-out wrong, surprises me.

383 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:07:06pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally OT, but just wanted to say that “Wuthering Tripe” was totally brilliant!
(Let the lizards figger THAT out, lol!)

Also, with ‘Tripe Heights’ you handed it to me on a platter.

384 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:07:29pm

re: #380 TedStriker

Doctor Who.

A question that must never ever be answered.

385 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 7:09:06pm

i see on the tee vee that noted author and commentator sean hannity presents segments such as “the great american panel”, with three guests who balance and complement his conservative outlook

386 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 7:10:55pm

I hope Nick Searcy doesn’t find out Chuck C stole his “Peabody Attack.”

387 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:11:46pm

re: #355 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

More limbs! More!

Lost appendages has never slowed down my factory orphans. At least not as long as the foreman has the Webley trained at them.

Anyway, it’s not as though there’s a prosthetic that can surmount the handicap of low birth.

If its a factory, I do hope your foreman is carrying Col. Fosbury’s automatic model. Proper factories should showcase the latest technology, after all.

As for the prosthetic, the Germans don’t have one for low birth, but they have one for just about everything else. The ones for factory work helpfully attach the worker to the machine, thereby preventing any unwanted wandering.

388 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 7:13:23pm

It boggles my mind how someone can be as un-self-aware as UpChuck. I’m beginning to believe it’s sociopathy or psychopathy.

389 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:14:00pm

re: #385 dog philosopher

i see on the tee vee that noted author and commentator sean hannity presents segments such as “the great american panel”, with three guests who balance and complement his conservative outlook


Let me guess, these three?

390 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:14:03pm

re: #387 Dark_Falcon

Note: Post #387 is just me going along with TGoaF’s role-playing. The Webley-Fosbury link is not intended as ‘gun-fucking’.

391 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 7:14:44pm

re: #386 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I hope Nick Searcy doesn’t find out Chuck C stole his “Peabody Attack.”

Since Chuckie is in the generation and demographic that won “awards” for showing up and trying, bless their little hearts, he may actually believe they were for merit.

392 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:15:24pm
393 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 11, 2014 7:15:41pm

I read a very interesting “alternative history” novel, The Impeachment of Abraham Lincoln by Stephen L. Carter. It is based on the premise that Lincoln survived the assassination attempt at Ford’s Theater and was subsequently impeached for the same reasons Andrew Johnson was.

The novel is told mainly from the point of view of a young African-American woman who is a paralegal at the law firm that is preparing Lincoln’s defense.

I highly recommend it.

394 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:15:41pm

re: #383 wrenchwench

Also, with ‘Tripe Heights’ you handed it to me on a platter.

#foodaddictbooktitles?

395 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 7:15:48pm

re: #391 allegro

Argumentum ad astra aurum

396 wrenchwitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:19:47pm

Later, lizards.

397 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:19:59pm

re: #386 jaunte

I hope Nick Searcy doesn’t find out Chuck C stole his “Peabody Attack.”

Peabody?

398 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:24:10pm
399 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 11, 2014 7:24:14pm

Evening lizards!

I have one thing to say…SPIDERS

400 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:24:56pm
401 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:25:39pm

re: #396 wrenchwench

[Embedded image]

Later, lizards.

I saved that one!

402 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:26:59pm

There is now a duct tape challenge?
Youtube Video

403 teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2014 7:28:04pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

I have one thing to say…SPIDERS

[Embedded content]

SPIDERS

404 Stanley Seabola  Oct 11, 2014 7:28:13pm

re: #398 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

TRUTH.

405 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:28:59pm

Night all. For your listening pleasure, here’s Liverpool’s own, The Liverbirds

Youtube Video

406 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 7:29:05pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

1000s of venomous spiders “bleeding out of the walls” forced family from Missouri home:

…And the spiders were there to eat the roaches…

407 Waxing Rapsodik  Oct 11, 2014 7:29:28pm

re: #403 teleskiguy

SPIDERS

[Embedded image]

Prick.

408 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Oct 11, 2014 7:30:35pm

re: #387 Dark_Falcon

If its a factory, I do hope your foreman is carrying Col. Fosbury’s automatic model. Proper factories should showcase the latest technology, after all.

As for the prosthetic, the Germans don’t have one for low birth, but they have one for just about everything else. The ones for factory work helpfully attach the worker to the machine, thereby preventing any unwanted wandering.

Pfft.

The orphan wrangler is far too down to the ranks to merit a decent pistol. Could be some kind of bolshie. His bosses’ boss is a good public school boy…he gets a proper weapon. And ammo.

Anyway, you don’t actually want to shoot the orphans. The open pits of pig shit, arsenic, and coal dust are killing them for free. The secret is to maintain the level of terror and underfeeding to maximize their labor, but too weak to abscond. That way they succumb before reaching majority and getting a vote.

409 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:30:49pm
410 dog philosopher  Oct 11, 2014 7:32:02pm

re: #405 De Kolta Chair

Night all. For your listening pleasure, here’s Liverpool’s own Liverbirds

[Embedded content]

ah, see, in liverpool there’s the city bird emblem known as the royal liver bird, i am not making this up, except that liver in this context is pronounced lie-ver, you see

en.wikipedia.org

411 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:32:54pm
412 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:33:31pm
413 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 7:35:35pm
June 1911. Alexandria, Virginia. “Old Dominion Glass Co. . A few of the young boys working on the night shift at the Alexandria glass factory.

shorpy.com

414 De Kolta Chair  Oct 11, 2014 7:38:00pm

re: #410 dog philosopher

ah, see, in liverpool there’s the city bird emblem known as the royal liver bird, i am not making this up, except that liver in this context is pronounced lie-ver, you see

en.wikipedia.org

No, you’re not hallucinating, at least not about this. The photo above shows one of the birds atop the Royal Liver Building. And that’s where the Liverbirds got their name. Speaking of Royal Livers, I need a drink…

415 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 7:38:54pm

Poor gun safety and extremely bad timing…

416 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 7:47:48pm
417 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 7:53:20pm

re: #364 FemNaziBitch

Is this a record for “hatchling to flounce” in the shortest time possible?

Now, if someone will tell me what the Fugtitive or the FO did with my headphones, I could watch the Wendy Davis video.

Came back to down ding me after calling it out as a potential stealth dead thread troll.
LOL!

418 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 7:54:52pm

re: #376 Dark_Falcon

The troll hasn’t been banned, so its not a flounce yet.

As for your headphones, the one-armed man took them.

It was indeed a threatened flounce.
Flounce is not a ban.

419 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 11, 2014 7:56:37pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

Followed a mainstream singer down the Youtube hole, and hit this group. They do second-string baroque and folk on early instruments, including a new one for me—the theobro. (It’s basically a bull lute.) They take some liberties, but show great skill and joy.

L’Arpeggiata: Bertali: Chiacona

[Embedded content]

Theorbo, actually.

420 RadicalModerate  Oct 11, 2014 7:56:54pm

re: #245 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I like DF. Despite the fact that I consider his position absolutely incoherent, if not sometimes outright evil. That doesn’t mean I won’t be pestering him about his GOP support. Familial ties are not an excuse.

Yeah, I could have stood up for members of my family who were overtly racist - including their having close friends who were in the KKK up until the 1990s. And yes, they were “southern strategy” Republicans. Instead, after I became an adult, I refused to have anything to do with them. Before anyone says that I should have played nice and quietly humor them, someone telling me that they believe that the 13th Amendment should have never been passed goes well beyond any threshold of tolerance that I can bear.

421 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 11, 2014 7:58:35pm

re: #347 freetoken

Should we now ban people coming from Michigan?

Michigan toddler dies of enterovirus infection

Shortly, the RWNJ crowd will blame the undocumented kids from Central American for the toddler’s death. They already have linked Eli Waller’s death to the presence of Central American kids in his home county.

422 Varek Raith  Oct 11, 2014 8:02:32pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

I have one thing to say…SPIDERS

[Embedded content]

Nope.

423 FemNaziBitch  Oct 11, 2014 8:04:21pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

I have one thing to say…SPIDERS

[Embedded content]

PLATYPODE

424 Varek Raith  Oct 11, 2014 8:09:20pm

re: #423 FemNaziBitch

PLATYPODE

“Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

425 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 11, 2014 8:27:50pm

re: #224 TedStriker

That really blows and I kind of know the deal: I live in Nashville, one of the few Democratic oases in a blood-red Tennessee. We have a GOP governor, a GOP super-majority on our Capitol Hill in which the Democrats (mostly from Nashville, Memphis, and the other large cities) can really do no more than offer token resistance, and the overwhelming majority of our Congressional delegation are either TPGOPers or pandering to them (I’m looking at you, Lamar!).

-snip-

Don’t agree much with his politics, but have to give our TN GOP governor credit for “tabling or needs further study” some of the more batshit crazy legislation put forth by the state TN GOP super-majority.

426 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 11, 2014 8:38:00pm

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

WELL SAID, Old Chum!

-snip-

Ah! But now my girdle is tightened and the pineapples are greased. It is away to the Hellfire Club for me.

You are the shield of the nobility, good sir. You stand athwart the foul and the morally diseased, checking their advance upon the great and good too bloated and deranged by venereal complaints to abscond in a timely manner.

Beware the baboon in the chest.

427 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 11, 2014 8:46:39pm

re: #379 FemNaziBitch

The Fugitive, I knew it.

(for those who might have missed my late night/early morning post a day or so ago:— Feral Girl is now The Fugitive —she ate the tag from the mattress)

So “the dog ate my homework” has transitioned to “the dog ate the mattress tag that must not be removed under penalty of law.”

They will never believe you in a court of law.

428 NotAgain  Oct 11, 2014 10:45:00pm

re: #408 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

Almost like Bismark’s invention of Social Security at 65, back then, most people died by then, so it was a profit maker.

429 lostlakehiker  Oct 12, 2014 6:27:41pm

re: #32 Lidane

Every word in that ad is true.

It’s just a damned shame that so many people here in Texas actively vote against their own interests by voting Republican.

Well, Texas has a better economic climate than many states. Have the people of Illinois, for instance, really been voting in their own collective best interests? If so, how come the state has such miserable finances and so few jobs?

430 lostlakehiker  Oct 12, 2014 6:39:13pm

re: #212 Weet

First, you’re using that RW polling site to support your statement. Really, you shouldn’t use them — they cherry-pick polls. Next: Texas is not ‘too Republican’. People here don’t vote, and that’s our problem. We were 2nd worst in 2012, ~40% voted. (Hawaii was 1st.) Texas is a purple state. What Democrats are focusing on is getting registrations up, and they are succeeding. It’s a big state, and it’s going to take a while, but we’ll get there. Also, Wendy actually does have a chance. It’s slight, but she does. It’s important to run, get our voices out there, give people new ideas, and speak some truth statewide about the criminal Rethugs.

You’re right about one thing…Texas is not permanently Republican. Sheer demographics ensures that Texas, like the rest of the country, will end up Democrat.

Do not imagine that it will then all be like Oregon. Some of it, say Illinois, will be like Illinois.


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