The Incredibly Creepy James O’Keefe Clown Show Goes to Colorado

The curious hijinks of a wingnut fraudster
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Nothing creepy about this at all.

This is what passes for “investigative journalism” on the right these days.

Democratic staffers in Colorado recently came to believe they were the subject of an O’Keefe operation after campaign workers became suspicious about would-be volunteers who had asked about filling out and submitting mail-in ballots for others. Recently, the 30-year-old O’Keefe has targeted the Senate campaigns of Arkansas Democrat Mark Pryor and Kentucky Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes by filming undercover videos of staffers or the candidate.

Last Tuesday, a man who appeared to be in his 20s showed up at a Democratic field office in Boulder wanting to volunteer to help elect Udall and Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), according to a Democratic staffer who met with him and asked not to be identified. The man introduced himself as “Nick Davis,” and he said he was a University of Colorado-Boulder student and LGBT activist involved with a student group called Rocky Mountain Vote Pride. Davis mentioned polls showing the race between Udall and Gardner was tight, and he asked the staffer if he should fill out and mail in ballots for other college students who had moved away but still received mail on campus. The Democratic staffer says he told Davis that doing this would be voter fraud and that he should not do it.

On Friday, Udall campaigned with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on the University of Colorado-Boulder campus. After the event, a woman calling herself “Bonnie” approached a different staffer and, according to this staffer’s boss, asked whether she could fill out and submit blank ballots found in a garbage can. The staffer, according to her boss, said that she told her no.

That same day, the guy identifying himself as “Nick Davis” returned to the Democratic office in Boulder. He was accompanied by a man wearing heavy makeup and a mustache, according to the Democratic staffer who had met Davis three days earlier. Davis introduced his friend as a “civics professor” at the University of Colorado-Boulder and the faculty adviser to Rocky Mountain Vote Pride. Davis and the professor, who said his name was “John Miller,” picked up Udall campaign literature and canvassing information.

On Monday, O’Keefe tweeted a photo of himself with a mustache and said he’d recently posed as a “45yo” for one of his “election investigations.”

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486 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 4:54:34pm
2 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 4:56:00pm

Get this charlatan the hell out of my home state!

3 makeitstop  Oct 20, 2014 4:57:17pm

Isn’t everybody in the world onto this creepy punk by now?

4 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 4:57:26pm
5 Justanotherhuman  Oct 20, 2014 4:58:46pm

And he wasn’t even on stage…

“He was accompanied by a man wearing heavy makeup and a mustache…”

That was probably their first clue.

6 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 20, 2014 4:59:43pm

Some journalist: he can’t even correctly spell “erection.”

7 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 5:00:35pm

Committing crimes to show that crimes can be done? Isn’t that kind of like what an arsonist does?

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2014 5:03:44pm

Comedy and Tragedy all rolled into one.

Also, who funds this guy???

9 Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2014 5:04:24pm

Too bad volunteering to commit voter fraud isn’t actionable. Or is it?

10 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:04:32pm

re: #3 makeitstop

Isn’t everybody in the world onto this creepy punk by now?

Nope. In working with Dem activists, OFA, and ACA Navigator organizers since the 2011 election cycle I’ve never heard a warning or alert about this kind of crap. That’s even in Florida, which had ongoing TPGOP efforts to suppress Obamacare and Dem voter registration. Sort of a gap, there.

11 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:06:30pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Comedy and Tragedy all rolled into one.

Also, who funds this guy???

He’s an alumnus of The Leadership Institute, so start looking around there.

google.com

12 Jenner7  Oct 20, 2014 5:07:19pm

OT:

13 Justanotherhuman  Oct 20, 2014 5:07:21pm

Later, Lizards!

Have a great evening. : )

14 makeitstop  Oct 20, 2014 5:07:59pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

Nope. In working with Dem activists, OFA, and ACA Navigator organizers since the 2011 election cycle I’ve never heard a warning or alert about this kind of crap. That’s even in Florida, which had ongoing TPGOP efforts to suppress Obamacare and Dem voter registration. Sort of a gap, there.

It’s hard to believe his mug shot hasn’t been posted in every Dem HQ in the country.

15 Vicious Piebola  Oct 20, 2014 5:08:12pm
He was accompanied by a man wearing heavy makeup and a mustache

I guess the Osama Bin Laden mask was right out.

16 Vicious Piebola  Oct 20, 2014 5:09:43pm

Wingnuts have this fantasy that George Washington was some kind of psycho gun nut mass murderer

17 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:09:43pm

re: #14 makeitstop

It’s hard to believe his mug shot hasn’t been posted in every Dem HQ in the country.

We’re a little naive at times. He also uses stand-ins, so the focus would have to be on detecting the provocateur MO.

18 austin_blue  Oct 20, 2014 5:10:29pm

What, no pimp outfit?

Come on, you poor excuse for an Irishman, step your sleaze game!

19 wrenchwitch  Oct 20, 2014 5:13:29pm

re: #16 Vicious Piebola

George and his Men, F#(%’n Killed them on Christmas Day

I thought they opposed the war on Christmas…

20 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:14:12pm

Usual Gang of Idiotarians. Leadership Institute—Wiki

Philosophy and curriculum

While the Institute does not provide instruction in philosophical conservatism, it does encourage its graduates to read classic conservative authors like Edmund Burke and “classical liberal” authors like Frederic Bastiat, as well as more modern conservative thinkers including William F. Buckley Jr., Russell Kirk, Barry Goldwater, and libertarian thinkers such as economists Milton Friedman and F. A. Hayek.[6]

The Leadership Institute teaches 41 different types of classes and seminars using its own curriculum. Class content varies from teaching how to create a campus newsletter to political activism (i.e. grassroots activism) to professional training and development (i.e. broadcast journalism). The Institute’s website lists its schools and other services.

LI Studios is a new, full service studio located at the Leadership Institute headquarters building in Arlington, VA. They offer a range of services from in-studio recording to on-camera training to production of documentaries and covering events. The studio at Leadership Institute headquarters is available for rental as well.[7]

en.wikipedia.org

21 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 5:14:16pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

We’re a little naive at times. He also uses stand-ins, so the focus would have to be on detecting the provocateur MO.

Should be easy enough to include in training —- do the right thing for its own sake, and as a bonus it will be impossible to fall for this kind of GOP ratfucking.

22 Vicious Piebola  Oct 20, 2014 5:14:57pm

re: #19 wrenchwitch

I thought they opposed the war on Christmas…

PROOF THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS A MUSLIM!!!

23 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 5:15:56pm
24 wrenchwitch  Oct 20, 2014 5:15:57pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

Usual Gang of Idiotarians. Leadership Institute—Wiki

Philosophy and curriculum

While the Institute does not provide instruction in philosophical conservatism, it does encourage its graduates to read classic conservative authors like Edmund Burke and “classical liberal” authors like Frederic Bastiat, as well as more modern conservative thinkers including William F. Buckley Jr., Russell Kirk, Barry Goldwater, and libertarian thinkers such as economists Milton Friedman and F. A. Hayek.[6]

The Leadership Institute teaches 41 different types of classes and seminars using its own curriculum. Class content varies from teaching how to create a campus newsletter to political activism (i.e. grassroots activism) to professional training and development (i.e. broadcast journalism). The Institute’s website lists its schools and other services.

LI Studios is a new, full service studio located at the Leadership Institute headquarters building in Arlington, VA. They offer a range of services from in-studio recording to on-camera training to production of documentaries and covering events. The studio at Leadership Institute headquarters is available for rental as well.[7]

en.wikipedia.org

Community Disorganizers.

25 unproven innocence  Oct 20, 2014 5:16:22pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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The phrase incredibly creepy may be less accurate than just creepy.

26 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 5:17:15pm

TEH LAMESTREEM MEDIA GOT IT WRONG

Sorry sane Ohioans, Kasich is still a wingnut.

27 Romantic Heretic  Oct 20, 2014 5:17:30pm

I’m hoping the job he loses is his own..

28 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 5:18:25pm

The kid “journalists” of the right are such obnoxious douchebags

29 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:19:23pm

re: #24 wrenchwitch

Community Disorganizers.

Yup. Essentially post-grad opportunities for College Republican National Committee dorks. Ashley Todd is probably an adjunct professor, teaching not to make your “B”s backwards.

30 wrenchwitch  Oct 20, 2014 5:20:48pm

re: #28 b.d.

The kid “journalists” of the right are such obnoxious douchebags

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O’Keefe sounds just like Chuck C in that tweet.

31 Vogon Poetry  Oct 20, 2014 5:23:25pm

So, NY Gov candidate Rob Astorino is tilting at windmills, or more accurately, demanding gate closures at NY area airports for flights that don’t exist.

There are no direct flights from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea. None.

So you can’t actually halt/ban flights or prevent gates from being used for flights that don’t actually exist.

32 Romantic Heretic  Oct 20, 2014 5:24:05pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

Once again, where did the idea come from that Burke was a conservative? He was, for the times, a radical progressive. Most of his life was spent fighting slavery and he supported America in its conflict with Britain.

Yeah, he opposed the French Revolution but not because he cared a damned about the ancient régime. It was because he opposed the methods the Jacobins and other were using to obtain power. The guillotine for example.

In the words of Conor Cruise O’Brien, “The only way you can accuse Burke of authoritarianism is by ignoring everything he wrote or did.”

33 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 5:24:40pm
34 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 5:24:51pm

re: #30 wrenchwitch

O’Keefe sounds just like Chuck C in that tweet.

Of course. One would expect activist wing nuts to exhibit convergent evolution of their filthy ideas, since they are all appealing to the same rotten elements of US society.

35 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 5:25:26pm

re: #30 wrenchwitch

O’Keefe sounds just like Chuck C in that tweet.

They’re actually friends. I know, shock.

36 Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2014 5:26:33pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Is Chucky going to give away all of his big discoveries before that talk at the Thursday Republican Women’s lunch in Fresno? Can he afford to lose that $18 a head?

37 Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2014 5:27:59pm

re: #31 Vogon Poetry

So, NY Gov candidate Rob Astorino is tilting at windmills, or more accurately, demanding gate closures at NY area airports for flights that don’t exist.

There are no direct flights from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea. None.

So you can’t actually halt/ban flights or prevent gates from being used for flights that don’t actually exist.

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I’ve got a better idea. Why doesn’t Rick Perry do it first, since his state is the one that let the disease into the country?

38 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 5:28:05pm

My money is on Corn btw, any day of the week.

39 Kid A  Oct 20, 2014 5:28:17pm

Perfect for this thread. #StopTheGOP is the top trend on Twitter.

40 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:29:48pm

re: #31 Vogon Poetry

So, NY Gov candidate Rob Astorino is tilting at windmills, or more accurately, demanding gate closures at NY area airports for flights that don’t exist.

There are no direct flights from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea. None.

So you can’t actually halt/ban flights or prevent gates from being used for flights that don’t actually exist.

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Ebola Panic is so Friday.

41 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 5:31:01pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Ebola Panic is so Friday.

Seriously. What a waste of panic.

42 Schadenboner  Oct 20, 2014 5:35:51pm

There is no way Jimmy O’Queef isn’t talking about his next neato plan with his backers. As soon as he accepts money to put this plan into action he’s committed conspiracy, right (the concrete act being the money changing hands, which makes his backers accessories before-the-fact)?

Someone should RICO this shithead.

43 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 5:36:11pm

btw I’m watching the Walking Dead.

What all the ebola fear people watch and secretly hope for.

44 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 20, 2014 5:37:18pm

re: #43 Stanley Seabola

btw I’m watching the Walking Dead.

What all the ebola fear people watch and secretly hope for.

‘Cuz GUNZ will stop Ebolas….

RBS

45 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:38:13pm

re: #42 Schadenboner

There is no way Jimmy O’Queef isn’t talking about his next neato plan with his backers. As soon as he accepts money to put this plan into action he’s committed conspiracy, right (the concrete act being the money changing hands, with his backers as accessories before-the-fact)?

Someone should RICO this shithead.

He created a 501(c), The Veritas Project, so his donors can beat that rap while getting that warm charity glow and avoiding taxes.

46 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 5:38:19pm

re: #32 Romantic Heretic

Once again, where did the idea come from that Burke was a conservative. He was, for the times, a radical progressive. Most of his life was spent fighting slavery and he supported America in its conflict with Britain.

Yeah, he opposed the French Revolution but not because he cared a damned about the ancient régime. It was because he opposed the methods the Jacobins and other were using to obtain power. The guillotine for example.

In the words of Conor Cruise O’Brien, “The only way you can accuse Burke of authoritarianism is by ignoring everything he wrote or did.”

I think Burke counts as a conservative, although not nearly as cartoonish about it as US conservatives usually are.

Per Wikipedia:

Burke put forward that “We fear God, we look up with awe to kings; with affection to parliaments; with duty to magistrates; with reverence to priests; and with respect to nobility. Why? Because when such ideas are brought before our minds, it is natural to be so affected”. Burke defended this prejudice on the grounds that it is “the general bank and capital of nations, and of ages” and superior to individual reason, which is small in comparison. “Prejudice”, Burke claimed, “is of ready application in the emergency; it previously engages the mind in a steady course of wisdom and virtue, and does not leave the man hesitating in the moment of decision, skeptical, puzzled, and unresolved. Prejudice renders a man’s virtue his habit”.

47 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 5:40:25pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

He created a 501(c), The Veritas Project, so his doners can beat that rap while getting that warm charity glow and avoiding taxes.

What a pretentious name he chose —- Latin for ‘truth’. A better Latin name would be “The Cloaca Project”.

48 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 5:41:33pm

If I were a conspiracy theorist

49 Schadenboner  Oct 20, 2014 5:42:18pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

He created a 501(c), The Veritas Project, so his doners can beat that rap while getting that warm charity glow and avoiding taxes.

Then he can stand tall alone (although surely the 501(c) can get indicted too if it’s funding actual literal, no-grey-zone criminal conspiracy?).

None of this D’Souza minimum-security shit, either.

E: Because there are *very* few ways to spin a conspiracy to bug a goddamn United States Senator’s office as either “social welfare” or “political speech”. Seriously.

50 Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2014 5:48:12pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Wonder what Keefie is going to dress as for Halloween?

51 scottslemmons  Oct 20, 2014 5:48:38pm

Completely and horribly off-topic, but here’s this thing I just discovered.

Apparently, Wikileaks has gone full on nuts. Not the usual brand of nuts, really. They’re tweeting in support of #GamerGate and quoting the Moonie Times (with a four-year-old story) to do it.

Could someone ask Greenwald what he thinks of Assange now? Or should we keep it quiet for fear that he’ll decide girls playing video games is the Worst Thing Ever?

52 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:49:58pm

re: #50 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what Keefie is going to dress as for Halloween?

Mata Hari

53 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 5:51:35pm

OMG THE ENDING OF THE WALKING DEAD

54 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 5:52:38pm

fainted.

55 Schadenboner  Oct 20, 2014 5:54:06pm

re: #49 Schadenboner

None of this D’Souza minimum-security shit, either.

With his masterful acting skills and ability in the arts of makeup and disguise Mr. O’Keefe is clearly an escape risk. Supermax.

56 wrenchwitch  Oct 20, 2014 5:54:50pm

re: #51 scottslemmons

Completely and horribly off-topic, but here’s this thing I just discovered.

Apparently, Wikileaks has gone full on nuts. Not the usual brand of nuts, really. They’re tweeting in support of #GamerGate and quoting the Moonie Times (with a four-year-old story) to do it.

Could someone ask Greenwald what he thinks of Assange now? Or should we keep it quiet for fear that he’ll decide girls playing video games is the Worst Thing Ever?

In my opinion, they have always been that: you’re just getting a peek inside the shell.

57 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 5:56:10pm

re: #55 Schadenboner

With his masterful acting skills and ability in the arts of makeup and disguise Mr. O’Keefe is clearly an escape risk. Supermax.

He’s a misguided yoot.

58 Dead Tired  Oct 20, 2014 5:56:12pm

re: #53 Stanley Seabola

OMG THE ENDING OF THE WALKING DEAD

last season, or this last show?

59 Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2014 5:57:31pm

re: #28 b.d.

The kid “journalists” of the right are such obnoxious douchebags

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60 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 5:58:11pm

re: #53 Stanley Seabola

OMG THE ENDING OF THE WALKING DEAD

Pretty awesome, like your name change too btw

61 Jay C  Oct 20, 2014 6:00:39pm

So James O’Keeffe’s latest “brilliant” “journalistic” “investigation” into voter fraud has had only the following effects:

1) made himself and his merry band of pranksters look like buffoons.
2) mainly provoked a strong reaction against the “abuse” he was attempting to “expose” (“voter fraud”)
3) proved, in fact, that the “fraud” issue is a self-correcting non-problem.
4) made himself and his merry band of pranksters look like even bigger buffoons.

And so, why, outside Wider Wingnuttia, would anyone give this clown (as also his “sainted” predecessor Breitbart) the least shred of credibility??

62 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 20, 2014 6:00:40pm

re: #55 Schadenboner

With his masterful acting skills and ability in the arts of makeup and disguise Mr. O’Keefe is clearly an escape risk. Supermax.

O’Keefe in his prior career….

63 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 20, 2014 6:05:46pm

re: #62 RealityBasedEbola

O’Keefe in his prior career….

Huh. A friend posted pics of Mt Rushmore on FB today, and I said, “Is that Martin Landau on George washington’s shoulder, crushing Cary Grant’s fingers underfoot?”

Must be Martin Landau day.

64 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 20, 2014 6:07:22pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

Huh. A friend posted pics of Mt Rushmore on FB today, and I said, “Is that Martin Landau on George washington’s shoulder, crushing Cary Grant’s fingers underfoot?”

Must be Martin Landau day.

ROFL

RBS

65 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 6:11:56pm
66 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 20, 2014 6:12:07pm

re: #64 RealityBasedEbola

ROFL

RBS

I’m outta here!

67 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 6:12:59pm
68 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 6:14:21pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

I changed to Democrat, based on what I have learned from this site. And, my revulsion for Rebublicans..

69 wrenchwitch  Oct 20, 2014 6:15:27pm

Later, lizards.

70 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 6:17:10pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I may have voted for all Democrats on my ballot, but I’m still a registered independent and I’m not changing that anytime soon.

71 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 6:17:50pm

re: #68 Floral Giraffe

I changed to Democrat, based on what I have learned from this site. And, my revulsion for Rebublicans..

If you’re a decent person (and I know you are), when you see what the GOP is doing and what they plan to do, it’s hard to avoid that conclusion. We’re in a battle against the forces of ignorance and darkness.

I really hope this country doesn’t take a giant step back toward the Stone Age this November.

72 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 6:19:30pm
73 rhuarc  Oct 20, 2014 6:19:44pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I will be doing the same thing year.

74 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 6:20:38pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

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Early voting started today in Texas and we’ll vote Saturday AM. I am not going to vote straight Dem ticket because there are a few offices which the Dems didn’t field a candidate and I will 3rd party vote against the GOP on those.

75 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 6:20:39pm
76 Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2014 6:21:34pm
77 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 6:22:38pm

re: #58 Dead Tired

last season, or this last show?

Last show. I always watch the day after, when my attention level is very high.

trauma.

78 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 6:22:56pm

re: #74 b.d.

Early voting started today in Texas and we’ll vote Saturday AM. I am not going to vote straight Dem ticket because there are a few offices which the Dems didn’t field a candidate and I will 3rd party vote against the GOP on those.

There were a couple of unopposed candidates who were Republican on my ballot and one office with a Republican and a Libertarian running. I left them blank.

79 Dead Tired  Oct 20, 2014 6:24:55pm

Local First Nations art.

80 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 6:27:54pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

If you’re a decent person (and I know you are), when you see what the GOP is doing and what they plan to do, it’s hard to avoid that conclusion. We’re in a battle against the forces of ignorance and darkness.

I really hope this country doesn’t take a giant step back toward the Stone Age this November.

Me too. I’m pretty much done with entertaining the notion that one can vote for the GOP (in a contested election) and be a decent person.

That’s categorically impossible for this GOP.

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 20, 2014 6:29:30pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

There were a couple of unopposed candidates who were Republican on my ballot and one office with a Republican and a Libertarian running. I left them blank.

Voted a straight Democratic ticket today. A couple are meh but all are still better than the slime currently infesting the offices here.

Wisconsin is going to hinge on turnout and on people not thinking about guns. Walker’s signing the CC bill gave him his margin of victory last time and he’s still pushing ads about it - “giving women the right to self-defense” -as if they didn’t have it before? Or, more accurately, as if judges and prosecutors will do anything different than they would have in jailing women for killing men before while utterly ignoring the law? But the propaganda value is high outside of Madison & Milwaukee…

82 Dead Tired  Oct 20, 2014 6:31:25pm

My most recent hot rod.
Hot rod

83 Kid A  Oct 20, 2014 6:34:10pm

I’m voting tomorrow, and a family friend is running for state rep (Texas) district 16. He’s a nice guy, but I saw his video interview with the Houston Chronicle editorial board and, well, I wasn’t impressed. Whenever you’re asked about why you decided to run, and you start your answer with “After a lot of praying…” you lost your vote with me.

84 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 6:35:11pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

If you’re a decent person (and I know you are), when you see what the GOP is doing and what they plan to do, it’s hard to avoid that conclusion. We’re in a battle against the forces of ignorance and darkness.

I really hope this country doesn’t take a giant step back toward the Stone Age this November.

Well, I live in California, behind the Orange Curtain, and my not so favorite politician is Orly Taitz.
C’mon, how could I stay a Republican? Please? They’re just nasty!

85 Kid A  Oct 20, 2014 6:37:04pm

If you believe creationism should be tought in public schools, you will never receive my vote. Ever. It shows a fundamental flaw in your thought process on something so elementary, how could I possibly expect you to decide on the tough shit?

86 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 20, 2014 6:41:28pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Bob Dole on the 30 or so furthest right congressmen-“It’s easy to be against something, but what are they for?” Now you don’t have to be a Bob Dole fan to understand the import there. Many of us indys are simply GOP refugees.

Sorry Floral I’m not registering with the other guys. We have too many serious disagreements mostly fiscal, some gun policies, and frankly a supermajority is not a good check and balance system.

87 EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2014 6:41:44pm

re: #85 Kid A

If you believe creationism should be tought in public schools, you will never receive my vote. Ever. It shows a fundamental flaw in your thought process on something so elementary, how could I possibly expect you to decide on the tough shit?

Exactly. For the record, it should be noted that if the GOP takes the Senate this year, non-creationists voting for GOP creationists and GOP creationist-enablers will be partly responsible.

88 Dead Tired  Oct 20, 2014 6:42:24pm

re: #77 Stanley Seabola

Last show. I always watch the day after, when my attention level is very high.

trauma.

I’ll be watching it tonight.

89 Stanley Seabola  Oct 20, 2014 6:45:58pm

re: #88 Dead Tired

Good luck to you. I’m affected.

90 Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2014 6:46:03pm

Almost voted for a Republican once. She was pretty cool.
Trudeau insists I am not Lacey Davenport

91 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 6:48:16pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

It’s pretty funny. The Davenports are neighbors.
And the Irvines ( much more politically powerful!)

92 Kragar  Oct 20, 2014 6:48:56pm
93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2014 6:50:02pm

niters…

94 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 20, 2014 6:50:28pm

Someone help me understand the dynamic-Given all the GOP misbehavior, the rancor, the noise and fury of the Tea Party, attacking Roe V Wade, anti Obama lunacy… Why is the expected turnout even a question? If I read correctly the 538 estimate on the Senate presumes a tepid attendance.

Honest question. What’s wrong?

95 klys  Oct 20, 2014 6:52:17pm

re: #94 Rightwingconspirator

Someone help me understand the dynamic-Given all the GOP misbehavior, the rancor, the noise and fury of the Tea Party, attacking Roe V Wade, anti Obama lunacy… Why is the expected turnout even a question? If I read correctly the 538 estimate on the Senate presumes a tepid attendance.

Honest question. What’s wrong?

It’s the midterms.

A lot of people are becoming convinced their vote makes no difference.

The ‘mainstream media’ makes it all a “both sides do it” MBF thing.

Take your pick.

96 Kragar  Oct 20, 2014 6:52:50pm

What a fucking bastard…

War Machine then tells the woman he’s charged with having beaten and raped, “I loved you more than freedom,” and that he forgives her for having “cheated” on him after they had broken up. “I forgive you,” he wrote, “please forgive me.”
…
“They wanna charge me with battery and [domestic violence]? Fine, do it, but don’t railroad me with B.S. fantasy charges like: Rape! Attempted murder! Kidnapping! And Burglary!” he wrote. “It’s making it impossible for for justice.”

“I’m a good person with a huge heart,” he continued, “and everyone who knows me know that, especially Christy,” whose face he broke, teeth he knocked out, and liver ruptured — and who he suggested will be pressured by “her scumbag agent” to testify against him for money.

97 Dead Tired  Oct 20, 2014 6:54:09pm

re: #89 Stanley Seabola

Good luck to you. I’m affected.

Do you mean infected?

98 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 6:54:21pm

re: #94 Rightwingconspirator

Someone help me understand the dynamic-Given all the GOP misbehavior, the rancor, the noise and fury of the Tea Party, attacking Roe V Wade, anti Obama lunacy… Why is the expected turnout even a question? If I read correctly the 538 estimate on the Senate presumes a tepid attendance.

Honest question. What’s wrong?

Gus has his ideas.

99 EbolaSpotinAL  Oct 20, 2014 6:58:12pm

re: #73 rhuarc

I will be doing the same thing year.

We know you will pull the lever for the Shaido when the curtain closes.

100 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 6:59:18pm

I heard that Ebola can live on republican ballots for 60 days.

101 Kid A  Oct 20, 2014 7:00:41pm

re: #100 bill d

I heard that Ebola can live on republican ballots for 60 days.

Republicans are Ebola.

102 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 7:01:30pm

re: #101 Kid A

Republicans are Ebola.

We should ban them from travel

103 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 7:02:05pm
104 Kid A  Oct 20, 2014 7:02:15pm

re: #102 bill d

We should ban them from travel

We should ban them period.

105 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:05:37pm

He looks like the love child of John Stossel and Ayn Rand.

106 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:06:58pm

Terrified of leaving Mississippi I guess.

107 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 7:08:54pm

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Terrified of leaving Mississippi I guess.

I wouldn’t say ‘terrified.’ Most likely ‘ignorant.’

108 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:09:09pm

Voting days should be mandatory paid day off from work/school. Freedom isn’t free.

109 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 7:09:55pm

re: #108 Amory Blaine

Voting days should be mandatory paid day off from work/school. Freedom isn’t free.

Election Day should be a national holiday, like Christmas.

110 bratwurst  Oct 20, 2014 7:14:04pm

re: #108 Amory Blaine

Voting days should be mandatory paid day off from work/school. Freedom isn’t free.

This is why elections are frequently held on weekends throughout the world.

111 bratwurst  Oct 20, 2014 7:14:17pm

Seem to have replied to myself instead of editing. Oh well. Read this while I am here:

Dear Kansas City

112 Swift2991  Oct 20, 2014 7:15:20pm

What masterful makeup! He’s like the Man with One-and-a-Half Faces!

113 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 20, 2014 7:16:19pm

Fer chrissakes i cannot frakking believe it.

Just saw on the 10 oclock news that the Stokes County school board here in NC is refusing to allow an assistant principal back to work at her school since she just got back from a mission trip to South Africa. They are requiring her to quarantine herself at home for 21 days before she can come back to work.

Because magic ebola…and I guess nobody in %#@^%!!!! North Carolina can read a %$#%$!!!!! map of Africa or knows anything about geography.

114 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 20, 2014 7:18:13pm

re: #113 Aunty Entity Dragon

Fer chrissakes i cannot frakking believe it.

Just saw on the 10 oclock news that the Stokes County school board here in NC is refusing to allow an assistant principal back to work at her school since she just got back from a mission trip to South Africa. They are requiring her to quarantine herself at home for 21 days before she can come back to work.

Because magic ebola…and I guess nobody in %#@^%!!!! North Carolina can read a %$#%$!!!!! map of Africa or knows anything about geography.

She was around scary Blah people. That blah stuff rubs off on you and it might have ebola in it///////////

115 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 20, 2014 7:19:03pm

re: #82 Dead Tired

My most recent hot rod.
Hot rod

Bet that one had flames on the hood.

116 Vicious Piebola  Oct 20, 2014 7:19:13pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

Election Day should be a national holiday, like Christmas.

I used to work at a UAW shop, we all got Election Day off.

117 Vicious Piebola  Oct 20, 2014 7:19:43pm

Even the contractors.

118 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 20, 2014 7:19:55pm

There are people who don’t know things, that can be fixed. Then there is a level of active ignorance that simply is beyond repair.

re: #113 Aunty Entity Dragon

119 unproven innocence  Oct 20, 2014 7:20:24pm

re: #110 bratwurst

This is why elections are generally held on weekends throughout the world.

Ross Perot opined to Barbara Walters that we should have voting over the whole 3-day weekend… Friday, Saturday and Sunday, in order to be fair to all the religious folk.

Because, obviously, voting on Tuesdays is so unfair. /

120 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 7:21:10pm
121 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 20, 2014 7:21:32pm

re: #114 nsmith25

She was around scary Blah people. That blah stuff rubs off on you and it might have ebola in it///////////

Yep. Although there was this also:

A Maine elementary school teacher has been barred from school after visiting Dallas, Texas, where Ebola patients have been treated - despite having no contact with any suspected sufferers.

It comes after hundreds of parents removed their children from a middle school in Mississippi because the principal visited Zambia - 3,000 miles from any countries struck by the deadly disease.

dailymail.co.uk

122 bill d  Oct 20, 2014 7:21:36pm

re: #113 Aunty Entity Dragon

lol, South Africa? North Carolina is less than 1,000 miles further away from Liberia than South Africa is.

123 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 20, 2014 7:23:38pm

re: #122 bill d

lol, South Africa? North Carolina is less than 1,000 miles further away from Liberia than South Africa is.

I know. Africa is a freaking huge continent. Hell, I think Spain is closer to Liberia than South Africa is…

124 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:26:43pm

RNC co-chair: Some Wisconsin voters ‘might not be as sharp as a knife’

Speaking at a Republican Party field office in Waukesha on Monday, the co-chair of the Republican National Committee talked up the closeness of the governor’s race in Wisconsin and the need to get Scott Walker supporters to the polls.

Sharon Day, the co-chair, told the audience, “It’s not going to be an easy election, it’s a close election. Like I said, much closer than I can even understand why.

“I don’t want to say anything about your Wisconsin voters but, some of them might not be as sharp as a knife.”

125 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 20, 2014 7:27:13pm

re: #123 Aunty Entity Dragon

I know. Africa is a freaking huge continent. Hell, I think Spain is closer to Liberia than South Africa is…

Just how big is Africa…. It’s freaking HUGE

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 20, 2014 7:32:25pm

re: #124 Amory Blaine

RNC co-chair: Some Wisconsin voters ‘might not be as sharp as a knife’

No sh*t Sherlock. They voted that fraudulent bastich in twice in two years.

127 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:34:00pm

128 Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 20, 2014 7:40:27pm

Ciao lizards. Back in the morning.

129 Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2014 7:40:30pm
130 piratedan  Oct 20, 2014 7:46:10pm

balloon-juice.com

wanted to give a shout out to Balloon Juice where a rational discussion about Ebola is taking place

131 sagehen  Oct 20, 2014 7:47:09pm

re: #94 Rightwingconspirator

Someone help me understand the dynamic-Given all the GOP misbehavior, the rancor, the noise and fury of the Tea Party, attacking Roe V Wade, anti Obama lunacy… Why is the expected turnout even a question? If I read correctly the 538 estimate on the Senate presumes a tepid attendance.

Honest question. What’s wrong?

Righties understand better than lefties the importance of local and state offices; they’re more reliable about voting in non-presidential contests.

132 Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2014 7:48:04pm

133 piratedan  Oct 20, 2014 7:51:07pm

re: #131 sagehen

right, because if THEY don’t vote, their guns will be confiscated, the nation will turn away from Baby Jeebus, sluts will get free birth control and the blacks will all get welfare cadillacs and Tbone steaks and those damn Messicans will have the same rights as you or me, regardless if they’ve lived in Texas for the last ten generations…..

134 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 20, 2014 8:11:54pm
135 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 8:15:46pm

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

I’m the cutest one! LOL!

136 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 20, 2014 8:20:17pm

re: #62 RealityBasedEbola

O’Keefe in his prior career….

The Master of Disguise

137 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 8:23:31pm

I’M RIDING SHOTGUN!

Vimeo

138 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 8:33:59pm
139 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 8:45:54pm

re: #136 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Just frightening.

140 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 8:50:19pm
While black people are protesting the senseless deaths of unarmed black men, white thugs are ravaging the streets because of pumpkins and football.

theroot.com

141 BongCrodny  Oct 20, 2014 8:57:55pm

I’d like to offer some advice to James O’Keefe:

If you really want to investigate voter fraud, check out your own fucking party.

142 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 20, 2014 9:00:32pm

re: #139 Floral Giraffe

Just frightening.

So was the movie, I understand. Or was that “frightful”?

143 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 9:09:45pm

Damn Conan. Ouch.

144 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 20, 2014 9:17:18pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

Damn Conan. Ouch.

[Embedded content]

says a bit about when people try to have too many families live where there isn’t enough water. LA needs to lose all the water they’re stealing.

145 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 9:21:40pm

re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis

LA needs to lose all the water they’re stealing.

Our humble host lives and works in the Los Angeles area, I have a good number of friends and acquaintances all along the southern California coast. Let’s not get too extreme on whether or not those places get water for humans.

146 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 9:24:17pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

We get water from our friends up north!
(Whether they like it or not!)

147 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 9:27:45pm

re: #146 Floral Giraffe

We get water from our friends up north!
(Whether they like it or not!)

And from the Colorado River! Of which I live near the headwaters. Water from the Colorado hasn’t reached the Gulf of California in decades.

Believe me, I know how fucked up the water situation is in the western United States. Even with two record snowfall winters up in the Colorado Rocky Mountains in the last 5 years, all reservoirs in the Colorado River basin are at record lows. And it gets worse every year.

148 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 20, 2014 9:30:07pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

Our humble host lives and works in the Los Angeles area, I have a good number of friends and acquaintances all along the southern California coast. Let’s not get too extreme on whether or not those places get water for humans.

I’m sorry for them, but they should be living in places that can support them without stealing water from people who can not survive without it.

Yes, we have good lizards there. They really need to find a way to move.

149 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 9:30:23pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

And, when we switch to the Colorado River Water……you can see & smell the difference.
Now, I am glad to have the water.
BUT
If it cost more, maybe people would pay attention to using it!

150 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 9:33:34pm

And then we can have a break for oldies surf tunes!
Youtube Video

151 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 9:39:16pm

re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, we have good lizards there. They really need to find a way to move.

You get a half a down ding in the form of this comment. Find a way to move? That’s absurd. 10, 15 million people just gotta go RIGHT FUCKING NOW because water and earthquakes. Tell that to any coastal town in Asia. Untold millions need to vacate coastal Bangladesh! Miami needs to be deserted by mid-century! Rubbish.

152 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 9:42:01pm

re: #151 teleskiguy

And this is why global warming is such a dire threat to humans. A few feet level sea rise and perhaps half the human population is imperiled in ways we cannot even imagine.

153 TedStriker  Oct 20, 2014 9:47:03pm

re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m sorry for them, but they should be living in places that can support them without stealing water from people who can not survive without it.

Yes, we have good lizards there. They really need to find a way to move.

The air must be really thin way up there on that high horse you’re on…

Sorry, but comments like yours isn’t helping matters; neither you or I are anywhere near CA or the other Southwest states affected by the ongoing drought, so it’s really up to the residents of those states and the appropriate authorities (including the Feds) to work this out.

FWIW, large-scale desalination tech really needs to get cheaper and less energy-intensive, not just for us here in the US, but all over the world.

154 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 20, 2014 9:49:12pm

re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis

says a bit about when people try to have too many families live where there isn’t enough water. LA needs to lose all the water they’re stealing.

Actually, the rest of the U.S. needs to start growing more of its own fruits, nuts and vegetables. California produces nearly half of the nation’s supply of those things along with a significant percentage of its dairy products. CA does so by virtue of highly subsidized water: 40% of CA’s water goes to agriculture, 10% goes to municipal and other non-agricultural users, 48% is used for environmental purposes (31% to wild and scenic rivers, 8.5% to instream flows, 6.5% to required Sacramento Delta outflow, and 2% to managed wetlands).

Average US per capita water usage is 152 gallons. Average per capita water usage in Los Angeles is 129 gallons.

The fire danger stems not from inadequate water supplies, it stems from the built up, and now quite dry fuel in our foothills, canyons and mountainsides combined with seasonal high winds.

Get your Los Angeles hate on all you want to, we’re not the ones using up all of the water.

155 3eff Jeff  Oct 20, 2014 9:58:18pm

re: #154 Higgs Boson’s Mate

As a wayward son of Washington State living in NorCal (Bay Area), it pains me to say this, but… You’re right. In this case, Los Angeles is not the problem.

156 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 20, 2014 9:58:49pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

And this is why global warming is such a dire threat to humans. A few feet level sea rise and perhaps half the human population is imperiled in ways we cannot even imagine.

It’s not just the water level rise. I was reading in Science magazine last week that tropical and subtropical parasitic worms are now starting to show up in parts of Europe. On the other hand, if such things start happening in rich countries, that may be just the impetus we need to finally start coming up with the treatments we haven’t considered worth finding as long as the sufferers were just poor brown people.

157 Jenner7  Oct 20, 2014 10:15:37pm

People on the scene are claiming it is all a stunt and are NOT happy with Sen. Nasheed.

158 BeachDem  Oct 20, 2014 10:31:38pm

Living in one of the reddest states around, it is particularly depressing when Democrats don’t vote, and many of those who vote Republican are voting directly against their own self-interests.

And it’s even more depressing when the Democrats here bitch about a Dem candidate not being perfect. It’s the fucking deep South—an outspoken liberal, anti-gun, pro gay-marriage, pro-choice Democrat has as much chance of becoming governor as I have of becoming the next Miss America—as in NONE.

Then there are the whiners. I was at a Democratic meeting tonight, and somebody was complaining that nobody knew who our candidate for Governor even was—because he hadn’t visited one particular town. The candidate is a state senator and he ran for Governor in 2010; he has been all over the state for the past year at meetings, rallies, town halls; he’s written a book about his plans for the state; he’s debated the current idiot governor and will do so again tomorrow. Holy mother of pearl—watch TV, read a newspaper, turn on your computer—the guy is everywhere. There is no excuse for Dems not even knowing who he is.

We have some really good candidates this year, running against some real assholes who have driven the state down further than ever and made it more of a laughing stock (if that’s even possible), but who have close to zero chance of winning.

The classic example was the special election last year when Mark Sanford, probably one of the most clearly damaged candidates ever, beat Elizabeth Colbert-Busch by more than 9 points. Talk about depressing. But I keep working for our candidates, giving them money when I can, and hoping that by some miraculous turn of events people will wake the fuck up and Democrats will get off their asses and actually vote.

159 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 20, 2014 10:40:24pm

Part of James O’Keefe’s Exclusive Undercover Reporter Kit, now available while supplies last for only $49.95 plus S&H.

[For $99.95 get the Deluxe Kit, which also includes the Patented James O’ Keefe Undercover Pimp Outfit, which comes complete with a faux fur coat and blow-up companion.]

160 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 10:49:54pm

re: #158 BeachDem

I gotta hand it to you, working the politics in SC. People of the LGF persuasion (left-of-center) are considered communists in much of rural SC.

Weird, actually.

161 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 10:51:34pm

#SoberJimMorrison

162 freetoken  Oct 20, 2014 10:52:27pm

re: #158 BeachDem

At some point, in our society, we have to clearly communicate to those who are holding on to very outdated and harmful beliefs that they are, indeed, acting more out of habit than thinking through their decision making.

Unfortunately, the clinging-to-their-Bibles segment of the electorate are now acting out their fantasies in a religious-fig-leaf form of polity. Faced with a modern world which does not comport to what they have always been taught, so many Americans are falling for the fear mongering and the revanchism put forward by the opportunistic politicians.

I’m not particularly optimistic about near-term change. I think the clinging-to-old-ways electorate will simply have to die off, and their grandchildren or great grandchildren will morph into something else. If you look at even the so-called red states today, they are indeed different than 150 years ago, even if it seems like they aren’t changing fast enough.

One thing I am convinced of is that global competition will drive the US to make some big changes about how we do our business worldwide, and this will filter down to even the most remote of US locales.

We’ve already seen that in my lifetime - the growth of Asian industries has changed the geography of the US, where many small cities (including my home town) now are significantly different (in my case, the town is gutted, having lost its industrial base.)

The US is still too large and too rich to be forced to change quickly. We can and will bumble on for decades, with politicians more into pumping voters on all sorts of manufactured controversies, personal foibles, and the like. When one is rich (as the US in total still is) one has the luxury of not being forced to change.

Substantially, I believe the US in a 100 years will still be recognizable compared to what we are today. i can’t say that about some parts of the world, who will be forced to change radically.

Eventually the day will come when the current largess will be gone, but you and I and everyone reading this will already be gone by then.

Upstream someone mentioned rising sea levels. Yes, they will rise, but it takes a long time, compared to human lives. Regarding South Carolina, no doubt by the end of this century the coastal towns will be impacted, but Charleston can probably survive as a port town for many, many years, even if waterfronts need to be rebuilt every 50 years.

I personally want to vote to try and impact my local city issues, and for our state propositions. I am now convinced that national level politics is a well designed and managed system intended to maximize cash flow into the political machinery, to provide entertainment for the masses. Those who are truly the 1% of the 1% have too many vested interests to allow decision making to be done by the hoi polloi.

163 Floral Giraffe  Oct 20, 2014 10:59:02pm

I have been, for many years of the “if you don’t vote, you don’t get to criticize” mentality.
It’s not a perfect system, but, ask the rest of the world if they live in a Democracy!

164 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 11:03:06pm

re: #162 freetoken

You stated it eloquently. George Carlin stated it crudely.

Youtube Video

165 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 11:08:06pm
166 freetoken  Oct 20, 2014 11:13:46pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Carlin was very Tea-Party-ish in this regards.

167 BeachDem  Oct 20, 2014 11:14:02pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

I gotta hand it to you, working the politics in SC. People of the LGF persuasion (left-of-center) are considered communists in much of rural SC.

Weird, actually.

It isn’t even that much different on the coast, although we do see more transplanted retirees here. Honestly, the only thing that has kept me (somewhat) sane was getting involved in Democratic politics. I’ve met some wonderful people and made some great friends—in fact, I try to avoid interacting with the right-wing loons as much as possible because I know there’s no way to get through to them and it’s just frustrating. This photo, which I’ve saved from the 2008 campaign, pretty much shows what we’re dealing with down here:

Kind of says it all, doesn’t it?

168 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 11:16:42pm

re: #167 BeachDem

Yikes!

I’m in a mountain resort bedroom community west of Denver. We’ve got our fair share of extreme small government conservatives. Nothing like what I see in this picture.

OY!

169 BeachDem  Oct 20, 2014 11:24:14pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Yikes!

I’m in a mountain resort bedroom community west of Denver. We’ve got our fair share of extreme small government conservatives. Nothing like what I see in this picture.

OY!

I’ll bet they’re better spellers! Every time I look at that picture, I just shake my head.

Confederate flag—check
Multiple misspelled words—check
Ignorant and proud of it—double check

170 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 11:26:19pm

re: #169 BeachDem

I’ll bet they’re better spellers! Every time I look at that picture, I just shake my head.

Confederate flag—check
Multiple misspelled words—check
Ignorant and proud of it—double check

I tweeted this.

171 BeachDem  Oct 20, 2014 11:29:13pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

Heh.

172 sagehen  Oct 20, 2014 11:44:18pm

re: #157 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

People on the scene are claiming it is all a stunt and are NOT happy with Sen. Nasheed.

Not a stunt… just a chance for a nice long chat with the rest of who got arrested that night, and an eyewitness view of how they get treated in the station overnight. Plus maybe a chance to eavesdrop on the officers.

173 teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2014 11:49:37pm

Youtube Video

174 freetoken  Oct 21, 2014 2:16:36am

MP3 Audio

175 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 2:26:43am

the midnight freetoker…

176 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 3:46:19am

re: #95 klys

A lot of people are becoming convinced their vote makes no difference.

This, I think, is the major one.

It is the most successful meme the authoritarians in our society have floated in order to undermine our political system. When people stop voting democracy stops working and then fails. It’s replaced with something else.

Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union is a good example. The people working hardest to undermine the system (I’m looking at you Koch brothers et al) might learn something. It’s not the ultra-rich that have the power anymore in Russia. It’s the military and intelligence leaders. The rich and ultra-rich are at their mercy, and those people have no mercy.

177 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 3:47:25am

178 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 4:17:21am

re: #107 teleskiguy

I hate that assumption. It is expensive to travel. Most people are just treading water to survive. It’s not ignorance, it’s financial insecurity for most people. I’d love to see the world, it’s not possible, it just isn’t. After taxes and employer health insurance, my husband brought home less than 35K last year. Tell me how we’re supposed to fit travel into the budget when there’s a mortgage, car payments, food, utilities, etc. I have no money to bet, but I’ll bake you a dozen cupcakes if it’s not true that the vast majority of people would love to even see their own country but are stuck at home just getting by. Please don’t assume we’re just ignorant and fearful.

179 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 4:26:04am

In today’s sports/gun usage news, Oscar Pistorius was sentenced to 5 years in prison for culpable homicide in the shooting death of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.
washingtonpost.com

Steenkamp was in the bathroom at Pistorius’ home, and he thought she was an intruder, took out his gun, and fired through the bathroom door.

The sentence, Judge Thokozile Masipa said, struck a “delicate balance” between mercy and the demands of justice, while delivering an “appropriate” message to the community.

“I am of the view that a non-custodial sentence would send the wrong message to the community, but a long sentence would not be appropriate because it would lack the elements of mercy,” said the judge, who stewarded the case under the twin burden of international scrutiny and criticism of South Africa’s justice system.

180 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 4:30:40am

re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m sorry for them, but they should be living in places that can support them without stealing water from people who can not survive without it.

Yes, we have good lizards there. They really need to find a way to move.

That’s really not nice.

Here in Detroit we have THE MOST FRESH WATER ON EARTH and people are getting their water shut off.

181 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 4:33:03am

re: #98 teleskiguy

Again, assumptions based on stereotypes. There are a lot of people out there that 1)Can’t take the time off work, even with early voting. 2) There is more than a little feeling out there that an individual’s vote doesn’t mean a thing.

This is one area the liberals have slipped up on, and not because we’re texting and shopping at fucking Whole Foods. The GOP started taking over on the local level back in the 1970s. This is why in a lot of places there is no dem to vote for in many offices, from local all the way up to federal level. Throw in gerrymandering and in some places your Democratic vote isn’t even possible, let alone count for anything.

182 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 4:37:15am

Why does Richard Dawkins have to be such a racist, sexist asshole?

183 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 4:37:40am

I’m a mavrik how about you?
SOCIALEST!

184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 4:40:51am

re: #183 Varek Raith

I’m a mavrik how about you?
SOCIALEST!

I am the socialest drinker around here. How about a tall boy?

185 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 4:40:58am

re: #181 A Mom Anon

Again, assumptions based on stereotypes. There are a lot of people out there that 1)Can’t take the time off work, even with early voting. 2) There is more than a little feeling out there that an individual’s vote doesn’t mean a thing.

This is one area the liberals have slipped up on, and not because we’re texting and shopping at fucking Whole Foods. The GOP started taking over on the local level back in the 1970s. This is why in a lot of places there is no dem to vote for in many offices, from local all the way up to federal level. Throw in gerrymandering and in some places your Democratic vote isn’t even possible, let alone count for anything.

Democrats have done a poor job explaining to voters how Democratic legislation has benefited the average American. Meanwhile, the GOP has poisoned the well by encouraging voters to believe all Dems are super-liberal (neo-Marxist) ivory-tower types who don’t care for the “Common Man or Woman.”

The Democrats have helped working-class people, while the GOP has hurt them, economically. Yet, the typical low-info voter has exactly the opposite conception.

186 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 4:42:10am

re: #183 Varek Raith

I’m a mavrik how about you?
SOCIALEST!

If you’re Socialest, then you’re buying drinks for everyone tonight! Share the wealth, comrade!

187 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 4:53:09am

re: #185 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Exactly, it’s not the people don’t care, it’s just that they don’t know. I’m not sure how to fix it, there needs to be education, but the party apparatus seems to overlook that. If I was running for office I would make sure people knew this stuff, I’d bring it up whenever the opportunity presented itself. My TV ads would be centered on it. My hope is that as more young people enter politics they’ll understand this is important. I don’t understand the dynamics involved but something big is missing.

I just think it’s a mistake to blame stereotypical hipsters and foodies and the like for the lack of midterm turnout. It’s been like that since long before the advent of either.

188 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:07:21am

This is the stupidest wingnut meme of the day (of course it’s early in the morning, there are bound to be stupider ones)
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU TEACH A PERSON TO SWIM WHILE HE’S FUCKING DROWNING

189 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 5:13:01am

re: #188 Vicious Piebola

And who is going to be the swimming teacher? The GOP I see all around me isn’t about teaching anyone anything. Can’t be the evildemondebbil government, so who? Private businesses? HAHAHAHAHAHA, wait…HAHAHAHA! Oh that’s heeee-larius. Who’s doing the teaching?

Yeah, like they’ve even seriously thought about that. Riiiight….

190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 5:14:32am

“Teach a person to fish and he can then try to gain access to a body of water that has been polluted and whose shores are blocked by unregulated development…”

191 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:14:36am

re: #189 A Mom Anon

And who is going to be the swimming teacher? The GOP I see all around me isn’t about teaching anyone anything. Can’t be the evildemondebbil government, so who? Private businesses? HAHAHAHAHAHA, wait…HAHAHAHA! Oh that’s heeee-larius. Who’s doing the teaching?

Yeah, like they’ve even seriously thought about that. Riiiight….

Take out “Swimming Lesson Loans” that you will be paying back for your entire life

192 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 5:14:37am

re: #188 Vicious Piebola

Wait a moment… isn’t Ron Swanson supposed to be the very obvious parody of the destructively, non-engaged public servant? If this is a serious commentary then not only are conservatives incapable of evincing humour, they seem unable to even comprehend basic satire.

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193 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:15:26am

re: #192 Alyosha

Wait a moment… isn’t Ron Swanson supposed to be the very obvious parody of the destructively, non-engaged public servant? If this is a serious commentary then not only are conservatives capable of evincing humour, they seem unable to even comprehend basic satire.

I never heard of Ron Swanson, I figured he is some kind of comedian, but wingnuts are treating this like it’s some serious wisdom.

194 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:17:05am

The Ron Swanson meme has just been replaced as Most Stupid Meme Of The Day

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 5:18:41am

re: #194 Vicious Piebola

The Ron Swanson meme has just been replaced as Most Stupid Meme Of The Day

How many more German Jews might have survived had they not willingly given up their guns?

Would Jesus have been crucified if he and his disciples had been properly armed?

196 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:19:27am

re: #191 Vicious Piebola

Take out “Swimming Lesson Loans” that you will be paying back for your entire life

Was about to say that the “free market” is always happy to offer swimming lessons. That last about 30 minutes each. And are individually billed. And if you miss a single payment, not only will they sic debt collectors on your ass, but you’ll be forced to start the whole course over again because they won’t count the lessons you’ve already taken.

And let’s not even get started on the number of people who have taken those lessons and are slowly drowning in debt because all the best jobs are either being automated into obsolescence, shipped overseas where people will swim for cheaper, or still being worked by people in their 60s because the Recession eviscerated their retirement savings/plans.

197 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 5:20:10am

re: #193 Vicious Piebola

I never heard of Ron Swanson, I figured he is some kind of comedian, but wingnuts are treating this like it’s some serious wisdom.

He’s a lovable small govt character on ‘Parks And Rec’. His tidbits of ‘wisdom’ are funny because they’re cleverly packaged criticisms of how conservatives tend to think. Lovable mostly because he’s a liberal caricature and not a true reflection of the truly absurd rightist movement.

198 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:21:07am

re: #194 Vicious Piebola

The Ron Swanson meme has just been replaced as Most Stupid Meme Of The Day

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Let’s ask the people of the Warsaw Ghetto how well an uprising of untrained and poorly equipped civilians worked out against the Wehrmacht…

199 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:25:26am
200 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:25:58am

re: #189 A Mom Anon

And who is going to be the swimming teacher? The GOP I see all around me isn’t about teaching anyone anything. Can’t be the evildemondebbil government, so who? Private businesses? HAHAHAHAHAHA, wait…HAHAHAHA! Oh that’s heeee-larius. Who’s doing the teaching?

Yeah, like they’ve even seriously thought about that. Riiiight….

Easy. Just borrow $20,000 from your folks and start a business, or invest it!

201 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:26:30am

These people play too much “Assassin’s Creed” and think it’s actual history. I just can’t even.

202 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:30:00am

re: #194 Vicious Piebola

Grandpa Levi is sitting at home minding his own business. He has an old rifle from maybe 1870 sitting above the mantle. Three SS soldiers knock at the door, each armed with a rifle and a sidearm. Guess what happens when Levi turns to get his old rifle.

And even if he was packing heat when he opened the door, Levi is still going to lose this particular gun battle.

203 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:31:17am

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Grandpa Levi is sitting at home minding his own business. He has an old rifle from maybe 1870 sitting above the mantle. Three SS soldiers knock at the door, each armed with a rifle and a sidearm. Guess what happens when Levi turns to get his old rifle.

And even if he was packing heat when he opened the door, Levi is still going to lose this particular gun battle.

Not to put too fine of a point on it, but 90% of Holocaust victims were not Germans, but citizens of other countries that were occupied by the nazis.

204 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:31:37am
205 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:32:46am

re: #201 Vicious Piebola

These people play too much “Assassin’s Creed” and think it’s actual history. I just can’t even.

Nah, too many of these morons think that Red Dawn was proof that an untrained, poorly armed guerrilla army can go toe to toe with trained soldiers and win. None of them realize that, in a realistic scenario, the Soviets wouldn’t have bothered trying to hunt the kids down. They’d have drawn their men back, then turned the forest into a moonscape with bombs or artillery strikes.

206 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:32:46am

re: #204 Vicious Piebola

Then teatarian should go to Syria and fight ISIL.

207 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:35:36am

re: #204 Vicious Piebola

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Yeah, the Japanese thought that too…right up until we nuked two of their cities.

208 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:36:35am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Nah, too many of these morons think that Red Dawn was proof that an untrained, poorly armed guerrilla army can go toe to toe with trained soldiers and win. None of them realize that, in a realistic scenario, the Soviets wouldn’t have bothered trying to hunt the kids down. They’d have drawn their men back, then turned the forest into a moonscape with bombs or artillery strikes.

Or the North Koreans in the remake.

A bunch of high school kids are trained by recently returned vet not much older than they and become a corps of wickedly effective guerrillas in about, oh, a few weeks — tops. And with the help of two Marines who have flown a flipping helicopter close to the occupied territory, manage to steal a top secret communications device and flee in a station wagon.

Totally believable.

209 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 5:37:04am

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-bola

These are the same nitwits who think having an AK, an AR and other assorted weaponry is going to protect them from the US military with their planes, bombs, tanks, and godknowswhatelse. These geniuses also think the military is on their side, so when the revolution comes they’re going to rule over all of us because they know what’s best.

They remind me of all the midlife crisis guys I know with Harleys who think they’re bikers. I call them Sons of Angioplasty. (and yep, I include The Husband and his idiot friends- all of whom are on my shit list, and will be for awhile, in that description. Grow the fuck up already, you’re 50 ish, get over it) Just replace the bikes with gun hoarding (though neither is mutually exclusive to be sure) and pretending to be Jax Teller with one of the kids in Red Dawn and the picture is complete. Fucking buffoons.

210 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 5:39:07am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-bola

re: #205 Targetpractice

re: #209 A Mom Anon

So cynical! Gahd!!!!!

211 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:39:15am

re: #209 A Mom Anon

These are the same nitwits who think having an AK, an AR and other assorted weaponry is going to protect them from the US military with their planes, bombs, tanks, and godknowswhatelse. These geniuses also think the military is on their side, so when the revolution comes they’re going to rule over all of us because they know what’s best.

They remind me of all the midlife crisis guys I know with Harleys who think they’re bikers. I call them Sons of Angioplasty. (and yep, I include The Husband and his idiot friends- all of whom are on my shit list, and will be for awhile, in that description. Grow the fuck up already, you’re 50 ish, get over it) Just replace the bikes with gun hoarding (though neither is mutually exclusive to be sure) and pretending to be Jax Teller with one of the kids in Red Dawn and the picture is complete. Fucking buffoons.

I’m in that age bracket, but I’d rather drive a Mazda Miata, or better yet, a Tesla S roadster.

212 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:39:34am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Or the North Koreans in the remake.

A bunch of high school kids are trained by recently returned vet not much older than they and become a corps of wickedly effective guerrillas in about, oh, a few weeks — tops. And with the help of two Marines who have flown a flipping helicopter close to the occupied territory, manage to steal a top secret communications device and flee in a station wagon.

Totally believable.

The original Red Dawn was supposed effectively a love song to the Afghans fighting the Soviets during the 80s. The new film could have been the script of any Call of Duty game.

213 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:40:22am

Oh, he’s just a chickenshit keyboard warrior.

214 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:42:51am

re: #212 Targetpractice

The original Red Dawn was supposed effectively a love song to the Afghans fighting the Soviets during the 80s. The new film could have been the script of any Call of Duty game.

The NoKo leader in the remake was especially inept. His CO should have sacked him right after his first fuck-up, instead of giving him a pass.

Also, as far as realism goes, all the NoKo soldiers in the movie were too tall and well-fed.

215 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:43:43am

re: #213 Vicious Piebola

Oh, he’s just a chickenshit keyboard warrior.

Is he talking about the Syrians? I believe they are fighting for their freedom.

216 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 5:44:05am

re: #214 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The NoKo leader in the remake was especially inept. His CO should have sacked him right after his first fuck-up, instead of giving him a pass.

Also, as far as realism goes, all the NoKo soldiers in the movie were too tall and well-fed.

Is it worth seeing just for the lulz or no?

217 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:44:51am

re: #214 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The NoKo leader in the remake was especially inept. His CO should have sacked him right after his first fuck-up, instead of giving him a pass.

Also, as far as realism goes, all the NoKo soldiers in the movie were too tall and well-fed.

Well, part of the second bit is because the enemy was originally supposed to be China, but the studio execs realized if they did that they could kiss any chance of selling the movie in the growing Chinese market goodbye, so they took a crowbar to that bit of the script and fit the NorKs in their place.

218 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:50:00am

re: #216 Alyosha

Is it worth seeing just for the lulz or no?

Yeah, it’s a good piece of fluff for a lazy afternoon. Maybe it’s on Netflix.

219 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 5:50:10am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Well, part of the second bit is because the enemy was originally supposed to be China, but the studio execs realized if they did that they could kiss any chance of selling the movie in the growing Chinese market goodbye, so they took a crowbar to that bit of the script and fit the NorKs in their place.

Should’ve been Bermudans.

220 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 5:52:47am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Should’ve been Bermudans.

Or the Grenadines. Oh, that’s right, St. Ronnie took those bastids out. Hosannah.

221 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 5:52:58am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Well, part of the second bit is because the enemy was originally supposed to be China, but the studio execs realized if they did that they could kiss any chance of selling the movie in the growing Chinese market goodbye, so they took a crowbar to that bit of the script and fit the NorKs in their place.

We can pretty much count out having any Chinese bad guys in the movies for the foreseeable future. Practically every major movie seems to have some Chinese tie-in, either in its cast, location or product tie-ins. I caught the hero in the last Transformers movie using an ATM card with a Chinese Construction Bank logo on it — in the American Southwest.

222 Timothy Watson  Oct 21, 2014 5:55:37am

What a loss to the culture:

223 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 5:56:02am

re: #222 Timothy Watson

What a loss to the culture:

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Oh thank Zod.

224 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 6:04:49am

re: #209 A Mom Anon

I call them Sons of Angioplasty.

Brilliant.

225 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 6:04:53am

re: #182 Vicious Piebola

Who the fucked sneered or sneers at Shakespeare for being white and male? What an asshole.

226 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:11am

re: #214 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The NoKo leader in the remake was especially inept. His CO should have sacked him right after his first fuck-up, instead of giving him a pass.

Also, as far as realism goes, all the NoKo soldiers in the movie were too tall and well-fed.

That’s the “Joint Security Area Effect”. Both ROK and DPRK troops in the
Pamunjom contact area of the DMZ are required to be over 6’. It goes with the ever-taller flagpoles.

I’m more phenotypic than you are.

227 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:45am

This is a good read that is certain to enrage what is left of the paranoid dudebro sect

It is emblematic of the cognitive dissonance that lies at the heart of not just Poitras’s movie, but also much of the reporting on Snowden’s leaks—where truth and fact has been consistently overwhelmed by propaganda and hyperbole.

There is no discussion in Citizenfour of the 11 days between Snowden’s arrival in Hong Kong and his checking into the Mira Hotel; of the three days he allegedly spent in the city’s Russian consulate; of his transit to Russia, his granting of asylum by Moscow and the full role of WikiLeaks in spiriting him out of the country; or the fact that Snowden handed over the operational details of ongoing NSA surveillance in China to the South China Morning Post

228 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 6:06:53am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Who the fucked sneered or sneers at Shakespeare for being white and male? What an asshole.

Yeah, I spend my days not forgiving Willie the Shake for being a white male. Sheesh.

229 Alyosha  Oct 21, 2014 6:08:47am

re: #228 makeitstop

Yeah, I spend my days not forgiving Willie the Shake for being a white male. Sheesh.

‘Othello’ wasn’t an autobio?!?!?

230 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 6:11:00am

re: #227 bill d

Recounting the missing information would spoil the narrative, to be sure. I imagine Poitras left out Snowbird covering his laptop with a pillowcase to avoid others spying on his online activities, too.

231 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 6:11:46am

re: #228 makeitstop

Yeah, I spend my days not forgiving Willie the Shake for being a white male. Sheesh.

I took a Shakespeare class in undergrad (many moons ago); an entire semester dissecting his written works and it was taught by a Muslim. Not once was his maleness or whiteness ever mention. Fucking dick.

232 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 6:12:08am

Click through….some awesome shots:

233 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 6:13:26am

re: #198 Targetpractice

Let’s ask the people of the Warsaw Ghetto how well an uprising of untrained and poorly equipped civilians worked out against the Wehrmacht…

That’s pretty much what I tweeted him.

234 freetoken  Oct 21, 2014 6:14:23am

I’m not going to speak for RD, but this thing about Shakespeare and reading dead white males is an old thing, going round and round in academic and non-academic circles for quite some time. I’m kind of surprised that RD is raising it now, as in this country the debate has gotten kind of stale. Perhaps something has happened in the UK education establishment to raise it once again.

There was even a play that was a riff on the whole subject:

To Read, Or Not To Read Dead White Males

235 Ian G.  Oct 21, 2014 6:15:03am

re: #16 Vicious Piebola

Wingnuts have this fantasy that George Washington was some kind of psycho gun nut mass murderer

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I have to assume that wingnut tweet is a reference to the Battle of Trenton. I learned in school that Washington crossing the Delaware so surprised the Hessians that they all surrendered. Wikipedia lists exactly 22 Hessians dead out of a force of 1500.

en.wikipedia.org

So no, he didn’t “f#^%ing kill them” on Christmas day.

236 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 6:15:14am

And more

237 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:19am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Who the fucked sneered or sneers at Shakespeare for being white and male? What an asshole.

This was rather easy:

Why I Hate Shakespeare

buzzfeed.com

238 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:42am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

That’s the “Joint Security Area Effect”. Both ROK and DPRK troops in the
Pamunjom contact area of the DMZ are required to be over 6’. It goes with the ever-taller flagpoles.

I’m more phenotypic than you are.

What I heard was the South Koreans choose tall guys to show the North how strong and well fed the South is, while the North has to scrape together enough tall fellows to even things out.

239 Ian G.  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:52am

re: #199 Vicious Piebola

We could go for the trifecta and remind him how the armed uprising of Hungary in 1956 ended….

240 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 6:18:57am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

This was rather easy:

Why I Hate Shakespeare

buzzfeed.com

Ah, yeah, the famous Krystie Lee Yandoli who speaks for the human race. Thanks ;) //

241 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:02am

re: #238 wheat-dogghazi-bola

What I heard was the South Koreans choose tall guys to show the North how strong and well fed the South is, while the North has to scrape together enough tall fellows to even things out.

Yup, that’s the game, silly when you have a few million people to draft. The 1950s peace talks spent a lot of time arguing about the size of the tiny national flags on the table. All the while a lot of people on both sides were dying.

242 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:15am

re: #239 Ian G.

We could go for the trifecta and remind him how the armed uprising of Hungary in 1956 ended….

I’ve been reading the history of WWI. The Belgians were armed, and even had forts with artillery as defense. Didn’t help them very much, though.

243 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:18am

re: #236 Eventual Carrion

And more

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The Russians were also fighting against a US-supplied insurgency, which was not only armed but also trained by our finest in guerilla warfare. Just who was supposed to be supporting the Jews?

244 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 6:20:48am

So, if white southern conservatives didn’t enslave Blacks AND if the Blacks had firearms, everything would have worked out differently. Gotcha. Right-wing “logic” on display.

245 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:02am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Ah, yeah, the famous Krystie Lee Yandoli who speaks for the human race. Thanks ;) //

More than 7 million Google returns, though most were RW and other defenders of WS.

246 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:27am

re: #230 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Recounting the missing information would spoil the narrative, to be sure. I imagine Poitras left out Snowbird covering his laptop with a pillowcase to avoid others spying on his online activities, too.

It’s in there. What a paranoid, creepy robber.

When a fire alarm goes off in the hotel, Snowden seems incapable of shrugging it off—clearly concerned that the NSA may soon be knocking down his door. Snowden openly worries that the agency can see in his hotel room (he puts a red towel over his head at one point to enter a password on his laptop); he says the “NSA police,” who he alleges don’t have to abide by the Constitution, will search his home

247 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:37am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Got to visit a local street fair this past weekend, and they had a classic car show to boot. The Mrs. got real excited by a 1932 Nash hardtop, and a couple of older hot rods. They also had a selection of Mustangs, including vintage models and a couple of newer Shelby or BOSS versions. They also had a couple of Corvettes and other assorted classic cars.

But this caught my attention:

It was the oldest vehicle at the show - a WWI era motorcycle that was used by the medical corps by the US Army. It was nearly 100 years old and the owner actually ran it for a bit - billowing smoke and dripping oil all the place. The owner also was dressed in period uniform too. Very cool to see.

Gotta hand it to the Mrs. though; if I ever wanted to get myself a Mustang, she’d be okay with it - especially after renting one in AZ this past May. She loved the way it drove, and it was surprisingly good on fuel too. But odds are that renting ‘em is the only way I’ll buy one since I’m more practical than that - the next car will probably be a wagon.

248 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 6:24:35am

re: #246 bill d

He’s confused. The CIA watches you through the window. The NSA monitors your keystrokes. A red towel cannot defeat the NSA spycraft.

It is useful in case the Vogons happen to demolish the Earth and you need to clear out quick, though.

249 Ian G.  Oct 21, 2014 6:24:39am

re: #199 Vicious Piebola

Let’s also get a few other things straight. 1770s =/= 1940s or 2010s. The British were, technologically-speaking, on about the same level as the colonists. They didn’t have Abrams tanks or F-15s armed with satellite-guided bombs.

Also, the whole idea that we were resisting some sort of tyrannical government in Britain is bizarre. Great Britain was among the more progressive countries in the world at that time. They were never going to commit the wholesale massacres and atrocities necessary to put down an insurrection, as British public opinion would never have allowed for it. Hell, it was British public opinion tiring of the war that finally got us to the negotiating table where we were granted independence.

You think Hitler or the Soviets were going to think twice about human rights or public opinion before incinerating entire towns to punish them for insurgency? OK……

250 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:27:58am

A Missouri state senator was arrested overnight during ongoing protests in Ferguson for not getting out of the street.

Police said they had warned protesters, and Nasheed specifically, to move out of the street. Another person was arrested with the state senator. A lawyer for Nasheed, Eric Vickers, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the senator had refused bond. He said she “wants to present this as an alternative to any sort of violent action” if a grand jury does not indict the officer who shot the teenager, Michael Brown, in August.

The odds that an indictment wont be handed down appears to be pretty good. What’s sad is that if the prosecutor wanted the indictment, he could have done so - and then tried him in open court. But doing so would reveal just how badly Wilson screwed up, how the police screwed up, how the local authorities screwed up, and that Brown was gunned down simply because he was black.

Instead, Wilson wont likely even be indicted.

251 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 21, 2014 6:33:21am

re: #243 Targetpractice

The Russians were also fighting against a US-supplied insurgency, which was not only armed but also trained by our finest in guerilla warfare. Just who was supposed to be supporting the Jews?

Supplies matters more than anything else. Successful insurgencies (VC, Afghan, etc) all have an outside major supporter providing supplies. Same with our Revolution that would have been crushed without French support and supplies.

252 freetoken  Oct 21, 2014 6:35:53am

re: #249 Ian G.

Also, there were a substantial number of Loyalists. If the British government were really monsters it would not make sense that so many people would have supported the Crown.

Reality is more complex than simple ideas of good vs. bad. In this case no doubt there was much to be gained by separating from the Crown, and I would not be surprised if some of the patriots had ulterior motives.

Yet if history is written by the victors… in this case the elite who led the Revolution are remembered for their virtues. Some of them really were quite progressive thinkers and I have no doubt that many of them believed what they were doing was indeed for the good of the many.

But what of the average colonialists who turned fighters? I have several ancestors who did such, and sure enough received land as a reward. Were they noble? Or perhaps they were just opportunists?

As a true (ahem…) republican (note the small “r”) I think throwing out the royalty was a good idea, and I still think it is a good idea. I remain a bit bemused by those who want to cling to such outdated notions of royalty in this day and age.

253 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 6:36:12am

re: #251 William Barnett-Lewis

Supplies matters more than anything else. Successful insurgencies (VC, Afghan, etc) all have an outside major supporter providing supplies. Same with our Revolution that would have been crushed without French support and supplies.

Yep, without outside supplies, an insurgency is reliant on the locals for support. And in 1930s Germany, any Jewish insurgency would have quickly been sold out to the Gestapo. Why take the risk of being marched off to the firing squad alongside the Jews if you could instead be rewarded for turning them in?

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:37:16am

Speaker of Alabama House Is Arrested on Corruption Charges

The speaker of the Alabama House of Representatives, Michael G. Hubbard, was arrested Monday on 23 felony charges amid an extended inquiry into Montgomery’s political machinations.

The arrest and indictment of Mr. Hubbard, who engineered the Republican takeover of the Capitol less than four years ago, came with just weeks to go in his re-election bid.

Mr. Hubbard condemned the prosecution as “politics at its worst.” He was charged with crimes that included voting for legislation in which he had a conflict of interest and using his public office for personal gain. A special grand jury returned the indictment on Friday, but it was not announced until Monday, after Mr. Hubbard, 52, surrendered to the authorities in Lee County.

The indictment, filed in Lee County Circuit Court, accuses Mr. Hubbard of soliciting or engaging in corrupt dealings with some of Alabama’s most influential figures, including a former governor, Bob Riley, as well as several leading businessmen. Mr. Hubbard, who was first elected to the Legislature in 1998, was the only person arrested Monday.

255 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:40:04am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaker of Alabama House Is Arrested on Corruption Charges

He’s arrested at the ‘retail’ level. Our legislators are cheaper by the dozen:

cnn.com

256 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:41:44am
257 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:42:11am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GOP is already claiming that it’s a politically motivated arrest - just weeks before election day.

258 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 6:44:32am

re: #257 Vogon Poetry

The GOP is already claiming that it’s a politically motivated arrest - just weeks before election day.

My candidate’s opponent avoided the string of indictments. He’s dumb, but he understood the value of “I forget.” instead of “I didn’t do it.” under oath.

259 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 6:51:32am

re: #188 Vicious Piebola

This is the stupidest wingnut meme of the day (of course it’s early in the morning, there are bound to be stupider ones)
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU TEACH A PERSON TO SWIM WHILE HE’S FUCKING DROWNING

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When you’re barely keeping your head above water it’s really difficult to learn how to swim.

260 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 6:55:48am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Well, part of the second bit is because the enemy was originally supposed to be China, but the studio execs realized if they did that they could kiss any chance of selling the movie in the growing Chinese market goodbye, so they took a crowbar to that bit of the script and fit the NorKs in their place.

There was a sub-plot that apparently led to all the tinkering that all but killed the original script of World War Z: an early source of zombies was traced back to illegal organs bought and sold in China.

261 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 6:56:11am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Nah, too many of these morons think that Red Dawn was proof that an untrained, poorly armed guerrilla army can go toe to toe with trained soldiers and win. None of them realize that, in a realistic scenario, the Soviets wouldn’t have bothered trying to hunt the kids down. They’d have drawn their men back, then turned the forest into a moonscape with bombs or artillery strikes.

As I recall the Wolverines did not win. Most died, a couple managed to escape from occupied territory and the war was won elsewhere. We’re not even sure if the Soviets/Cubans were kicked out.

262 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 7:01:25am

lol, Mitch in his sweater vest is at the far right in the photo.
He’ll be in my county tomorrow.

263 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 7:04:22am
264 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 7:09:08am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Who the fucked sneered or sneers at Shakespeare for being white and male? What an asshole.

Because there were SO MANY PEOPLE OF COLOR in Elizabethan England.

And Queen Elizabeth I just kicked that patriarchy right in the balls.

265 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 7:09:11am

re: #249 Ian G.

You think Hitler or the Soviets were going to think twice about human rights or public opinion before incinerating entire towns to punish them for insurgency? OK……

Ask the people of Lidice how much the Nazis cared about human rights. They weren’t even involved in the assassination that triggered the massacre.

I’m currently reading Tuchman’s March of Folly. A lot of people in Britain sympathized with the colonists. They worried if American rights were trampled on, and they were, they would be next. People like Wilkes and Burke were quite forceful about this when speaking about the matter.

266 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:10:37am

Everyone is talking about the Dem enthusiasm gap but I sure haven’t seen a lot of excitement over voting from the republican end this cycle. They have no cause to rally against, I am not seeing any charging of the RINOs or by the Come & Take It crowd.

Anybody else seeing something that I am missing?

267 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 7:10:50am

re: #263 Lidane

GOPer doubles down on gays: “These creatures…are so destructive”

Let these people write the 2016 GOP platform, please…

268 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:11:02am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a sub-plot that apparently led to all the tinkering that all but killed the original script of World War Z: an early source of zombies was traced back to illegal organs bought and sold in China.

Which is actually in the book. IIRC, when JMS was announced as the script-writer, it was said he’d try to faithfully adapt the source material. I guess the studio heads didn’t actually read the book they’d bought the movie rights to until after the script was handed to them. Also explains why the concept art for the Battle of Yonkers ended up on the scrap heap.

269 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:12:53am

re: #266 bill d

Everyone is talking about the Dem enthusiasm gap but I sure haven’t seen a lot of excitement over voting from the republican end this cycle. They have no cause to rally against, I am not seeing any charging of the RINOs or by the Come & Take It crowd.

Anybody else seeing something that I am missing?

Like most midterms, there’s really no enthusiasm on either side of the aisle. It’s just that the GOP’s base would crawl over broken glass and red hot coals to get to the polls, even if they have no idea why they’re voting.

270 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:14:16am

re: #261 Romantic Heretic

As I recall the Wolverines did not win. Most died, a couple managed to escape from occupied territory and the war was won elsewhere. We’re not even sure if the Soviets/Cubans were kicked out.

In the remake. only two or three survive to the end (one stays behind to be captured, because he’s been tagged with an RFID tracking device, and we don’t know what happens to him). The North Koreans are still in Spokane, though slightly diminished in number. The two Marines from the Midwest “free USA” leave with the hardened comm device. The remaining Wolverines recruit a new guerrilla army of mostly teens and 20s, as the movie ends.

271 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 7:14:44am

re: #266 bill d

Everyone is talking about the Dem enthusiasm gap but I sure haven’t seen a lot of excitement over voting from the republican end this cycle. They have no cause to rally against, I am not seeing any charging of the RINOs or by the Come & Take It crowd.

Anybody else seeing something that I am missing?

This will be a battle of the die-hards, unless there’s a pleasant surprise. Normally, the RW is more die-hard, the Left more event-driven. The Freepers have been in loud revolt against the “GOP Establishment”, but it’s easy to forget they are a closed minority.

272 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 7:14:49am

re: #256 Vogon Poetry

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I noticed how every Gawker affiliate site has caught “Kinja” is that something like Ebola Of The Web?

273 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 7:15:08am

re: #251 William Barnett-Lewis

Supplies matters more than anything else. Successful insurgencies (VC, Afghan, etc) all have an outside major supporter providing supplies. Same with our Revolution that would have been crushed without French support and supplies.

“Amateurs study tactics. Experts study logistics.” - Heluth von Moltke the Elder

274 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:19:11am

re: #273 Romantic Heretic

“Amateurs study tactics. Experts study logistics.” - Heluth von Moltke the Elder

Logistics is one reason why the Russians couldn’t maintain pressure on the Eastern Front in WWI. They had more men than Germany and Austria, but considerably inferior support lines.

An inept and corrupt military didn’t help much, either.

Reading up on WWI shows how bad off the empires of Europe were. Each one was collapsing under its own ineptitude. The war finished them off.

275 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:20:27am

The whole “enthusiasm” gap business really matters during a presidential election year, when that enthusiasm can bleed down from the top of the ticket, benefiting those running for Congress, state, and local elections. There’s generally not a lot of enthusiasm in a midterm because the highest office you vote for is Senator and most people have to think up some reason why it matters. To the diehards there’s plenty of reasons, but for someone who just sees it as the difference between a day’s wages and a vote, “enthusiasm” just doesn’t matter.

276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 7:21:25am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Logistics is one reason why the Russians couldn’t maintain pressure on the Eastern Front in WWI. They had more men than Germany and Austria, but considerably inferior support lines.

An inept and corrupt military didn’t help much, either.

Reading up on WWI shows how bad off the empires of Europe were. Each one was collapsing under its own ineptitude. The war finished them off.

Until the late 19th century, military strategy was based on armies carrying their own supplies on horse carts and/or living off the land. Moving tons of supplies and ammunition was a new concept.

277 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 7:22:22am

re: #266 bill d

Everyone is talking about the Dem enthusiasm gap but I sure haven’t seen a lot of excitement over voting from the republican end this cycle. They have no cause to rally against, I am not seeing any charging of the RINOs or by the Come & Take It crowd.

Anybody else seeing something that I am missing?

After what Obama and the liberal socialist Democrats have done to this country in the past six years, many Americans are OUTRAGED at the far left who have hijacked this country. Only when every far left Democrat is voted out of office will the nightmare be over.

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278 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:23:01am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Until the late 19th century, military strategy was based on armies carrying their own supplies on horse carts and/or living off the land. Moving tons of supplies and ammunition was a new concept.

Mechanized warfare took a long while to get up to speed. You could really say that it wasn’t until the midpoint of WWII that any one army got its shit together. Even the Wehrmacht in the early part of WWII, held up as the prime example of the benefits of mechanized warfare, was still mostly transporting supplies and even men to the front with animal-drawn carts.

279 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 7:23:19am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Until the late 19th century, military strategy was based on armies carrying their own supplies on horse carts and/or living off the land. Moving tons of supplies and ammunition was a new concept.

Our word ‘impediment’ is the Roman army’s term for their baggage train.

281 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:24:48am

re: #275 Targetpractice

The whole “enthusiasm” gap business really matters during a presidential election year, when that enthusiasm can bleed down from the top of the ticket, benefiting those running for Congress, state, and local elections. There’s generally not a lot of enthusiasm in a midterm because the highest office you vote for is Senator and most people have to think up some reason why it matters. To the diehards there’s plenty of reasons, but for someone who just sees it as the difference between a day’s wages and a vote, “enthusiasm” just doesn’t matter.

I’d be happy if Mitch McConnell lost his seat. Unfortunately, because Indiana was my last state of residence before moving abroad, I cannot vote for Grimes. I can only vote for federal offices in Indiana until I repatriate.

282 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 7:27:10am

re: #275 Targetpractice

To the diehards there’s plenty of reasons, but for someone who just sees it as the difference between a day’s wages and a vote, “enthusiasm” just doesn’t matter.

This. It’s not really enthusiasm (though people like to talk of it that way). It’s simply (IMO) that more Republican voters tend to be either retired or in positions that allow them more flexibility to vote on the day. Which is, of course, why they want to prevent absentee/mail voting.

283 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:27:21am

re: #277 Lidane

After what Obama and the liberal socialist Democrats have done to this country in the past six years, many Americans are OUTRAGED at the far left who have hijacked this country. Only when every far left Democrat is voted out of office will the nightmare be over.

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But since the republic is lost because IF OBAMA WINS REELECTION THEN THIS COUNTRY IS DONE FOR AND THERE’S NO TURNING BACK then why bother if all it means is that Mitch (OBAMA LOVING LIBERAL RINO) McConnell becomes majority leader?

284 Ian G.  Oct 21, 2014 7:28:32am

re: #270 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The North Koreans are still in Spokane, though slightly diminished in number.

How high would I have to be for a plot based around “North Koreans in Spokane” to make sense? Shit, I wouldn’t expect that the North Koreans could ever reach Seoul without their country being reduced to a smoldering wasteland.

285 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 7:28:55am

talkingpointsmemo.com

The east African nation of Rwanda is now screening all visitors who have traveled to the United States within 22 days of entry for Ebola, whether or not they show symptoms of the deadly virus.

tee-hee

286 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:29:42am

re: #278 Targetpractice

Mechanized warfare took a long while to get up to speed. You could really say that it wasn’t until the midpoint of WWII that any one army got its shit together. Even the Wehrmacht in the early part of WWII, held up as the prime example of the benefits of mechanized warfare, was still mostly transporting supplies and even men to the front with animal-drawn carts.

I was flabbergasted at the French and British generals’ stubborn belief in the cavalry’s effectiveness in warfare, even as wave after wave of men and horses were cut down by machine gun fire. Even more perplexing was the refusal of all the generals on both sides to accept reports from the front as evidence their strategies were completely ineffective.

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 7:32:01am

re: #178 A Mom Anon

I hate that assumption. It is expensive to travel. Most people are just treading water to survive. It’s not ignorance, it’s financial insecurity for most people. I’d love to see the world, it’s not possible, it just isn’t. After taxes and employer health insurance, my husband brought home less than 35K last year. Tell me how we’re supposed to fit travel into the budget when there’s a mortgage, car payments, food, utilities, etc. I have no money to bet, but I’ll bake you a dozen cupcakes if it’s not true that the vast majority of people would love to even see their own country but are stuck at home just getting by. Please don’t assume we’re just ignorant and fearful.

Another factor that would affect those numbers is the change in the past few years where you now require a passport in order to cross the border into Mexico or Canada. That would boost the number of passport holders along the northern and southern borders. The group of states with low numbers are not that close to either of those borders.

288 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 7:32:40am

re: #286 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I was flabbergasted at the French and British generals’ stubborn belief in the cavalry’s effectiveness in warfare, even as wave after wave of men and horses were cut down by machine gun fire. Even more perplexing was the refusal of all the generals on both sides to accept reports from the front as evidence their strategies were completely ineffective.

It wasn’t until the Germans started running out of manpower that they began developing and implementing modern assault tactics.

289 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:32:49am

Here in Texas I am not feeling the same level of republican enthusiasm to vote for Abbott and Patrick that I have seen in the last Gubernatorial races. Perry for all of his faults fired up his base, Abbott just seems to be a place holder and has no loyal following.

290 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:33:15am

re: #284 Ian G.

How high would I have to be for a plot based around “North Koreans in Spokane” to make sense? Shit, I wouldn’t expect that the North Koreans could ever reach Seoul without their country being reduced to a smoldering wasteland.

As re: #217 Targetpractice points out, the original script had the Chinese as the bad guys, but marketing realities scotched that idea. The North Koreans were used as replacement bad guys as a quick fix.

Besides, it’s Hollywood.

291 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 7:33:25am

re:
#267

GOPer doubles down on gays: “These creatures…are so destructive”

REBRANDING!!!

292 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:34:42am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It wasn’t until the Germans started running out of manpower that they began developing and implementing modern assault tactics.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

293 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:35:35am

re: #286 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I was flabbergasted at the French and British generals’ stubborn belief in the cavalry’s effectiveness in warfare, even as wave after wave of men and horses were cut down by machine gun fire. Even more perplexing was the refusal of all the generals on both sides to accept reports from the front as evidence their strategies were completely ineffective.

Part of the problem was that Europe refused to let go of that part of feudalism that said officers were to be nobles and peasants were to do the dirty work. Too many incompetent morons were made officers and put in charge of whole regiments of men for no other reason than they were related to their monarch in some fashion. Ideas that had gone out of style as recently as the Napoleonic era were held onto for no other reason than tradition, even if that tradition was getting scores of men killed for no appreciable gain.

294 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 7:36:06am

Gotta go catch some shuteye. Hasta mañana, amigos!

295 Jenner7  Oct 21, 2014 7:38:50am

Oscar Pistorius sentenced to five years in killing of girlfriend

washingtonpost.com

296 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 7:39:28am

re: #295 Jenner7

Oscar Pistorius sentenced to five years in killing of girlfriend

washingtonpost.com

Can I stop ignoring this story now?

297 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:41:36am

Who doesn’t enjoy a good butt rub?

298 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 7:41:58am

re: #289 bill d

I’m hoping that translates into people dragging their feet on voting for Abbott. If they’re not motivated they won’t go to the polls.

299 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:44:25am

re: #298 Lidane

I’m hoping that translates into people dragging their feet on voting for Abbott. If they’re not motivated they won’t go to the polls.

And not one major paper in Texas has endorsed Patrick. His ads are scaremongering filth about ISIS being at the border. They aren’t scaring the voters, they’re making them shake their heads in befuddlement.

300 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 7:44:51am
Davis mentioned polls showing the race between Udall and Gardner was tight, and he asked the staffer if he should fill out and mail in ballots for other college students who had moved away but still received mail on campus. The Democratic staffer says he told Davis that doing this would be voter fraud and that he should not do it.

Obviously because this attempt to create voter fraud failed it means voter fraud is widespread and the only solution is to require voter ID’s for college students and urban residents but not for military members, gun owners, or aged residents in Florida retirement villages who are likely to vote GOP despite their reliance on Social Security and Medicare courtesy of Democrats.

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301 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 7:47:46am

Journalism!!!

302 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 7:47:52am

Conservatives seem disappointed that the “Ebola crisis” in the US is nearly resolved.

303 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 7:49:40am

re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I’d be happy if Mitch McConnell lost his seat. Unfortunately, because Indiana was my last state of residence before moving abroad, I cannot vote for Grimes. I can only vote for federal offices in Indiana until I repatriate.

Don’t worry, we will still claim you.

304 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 7:50:05am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

Conservatives seem disappointed that the “Ebola crisis” in the US is nearly resolved.

Well of course, because a crisis ended by government intervention doesn’t help them convince the plebes that the government is incompetent and can’t be trusted to do things that should be left up to the private sector.

305 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 7:51:10am

With the birth of any crisis, there’s always the afterbirth; the fraudsters, scammers, and hucksters (to say nothing of smear merchants, but that’s for another post):

306 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 7:51:22am

re:
#302

Conservatives seem disappointed that the “Ebola crisis” in the US is nearly resolved.

That’s because we stomped and screamed and caused a panic so that John Galt ended the Ebola crisis!!!!!11

307 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 7:51:34am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!!!

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That’ll happen if you drink a quart of vodka before you try to explain yourself.

308 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 7:51:35am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

Conservatives seem disappointed that the “Ebola crisis” in the US is nearly resolved.

Freep is down to two Ebola stories on the front page. One is about the lifting of quarantines/surveillance.

309 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 7:51:38am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Until the late 19th century, military strategy was based on armies carrying their own supplies on horse carts and/or living off the land. Moving tons of supplies and ammunition was a new concept.

And before railroads your campaign distances were fairly limited in scope unless you had a port nearby or had planted large supply caches in advance. Unless you wanted to risk running out of forage or getting isolated far away from any supply base and then getting forced into a hasty retreat that often could or would effectively destroy your army.

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 7:53:33am

re: #278 Targetpractice

Mechanized warfare took a long while to get up to speed. You could really say that it wasn’t until the midpoint of WWII that any one army got its shit together. Even the Wehrmacht in the early part of WWII, held up as the prime example of the benefits of mechanized warfare, was still mostly transporting supplies and even men to the front with animal-drawn carts.

And the Germans realized that the were never going to fully mechanize. They worked to at get some formations (panzer and panzergrenadier) mechanized, including their artillery in order to get the necessary mobility.

311 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 7:55:10am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

Eh, they’ll still be calling for flights to be canceled from West Africa, even though there are no direct flights to the US from Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia, which is where the outbreak is now contained (Senegal and Nigeria have managed to stop the outbreaks there due to people traveling into the country as Duncan did in a flight via Brussels).

But the greater threat is that too many people are using Ebola as an excuse to kick people off flights because they’re black, or not allowing them to attend school even if they’re from a country 2,600 miles away from where the outbreak is occurring, etc.

The fear, hysteria, and panic from a breathless media hyping the threat to the US has let fly all manner of derp. And the GOP gleefully plays into this by claiming the President and Democrats have failed at something, even though all the failures are the result of a Dallas hospital being incapable of following infection control protocols.

312 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 7:56:08am

How has the Ebola crisis been solved without banning all flights from the country of West Africa??????

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313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 7:56:10am

re: #310 Feline Fearless Leader

And the Germans realized that the were never going to fully mechanize. They worked to at get some formations (panzer and panzergrenadier) mechanized, including their artillery in order to get the necessary mobility.

Len Deighton’s Blitzkrieg explains how the Waffen SS units came about: they were originally police battalions, but fully mechanized. The Germans badly needed mechanized units, so they welcomed the addition of SS units to the fighting force.

314 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 7:58:24am

re: #312 Bulworth

How has the Ebola crisis been solved without banning all flights from the country of West Africa??????

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Ask her

315 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:59:05am

heh, just cause…

“You mention the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets,” Obama said during the final presidential debate. “We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines.”

316 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 7:59:56am

re: #312 Bulworth

How has the Ebola crisis been solved without banning all flights from the country of West Africa??????

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Ebola Tsar has done an incredible job.

317 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 8:03:29am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

Conservatives seem disappointed that the “Ebola crisis” in the US is nearly resolved.

My Facebook wingnuts have sure shut the hell up about it. Everybody’s riding the ‘voter fraud’ hobby horse today…

318 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 8:03:36am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Logistics is one reason why the Russians couldn’t maintain pressure on the Eastern Front in WWI. They had more men than Germany and Austria, but considerably inferior support lines.

An inept and corrupt military didn’t help much, either.

Reading up on WWI shows how bad off the empires of Europe were. Each one was collapsing under its own ineptitude. The war finished them off.

I brought that up to the twit I was tweeting with:

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319 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:04:15am

re: #318 Eventual Carrion

I brought that up to the twit I was tweeting with:

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I already blocked that stupid fucker

320 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 8:05:19am

re: #317 makeitstop

My Facebook wingnuts have sure shut the hell up about it. Everybody’s riding the ‘voter fraud’ hobby horse today…

Others have had to fall back on BENGHAZI !!1!

321 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 8:05:26am

re: #314 NJDhockeyfan

Pandering for votes. In an election year, even as health experts and anyone who bothers to look at a map would recognize that there isn’t a threat of someone flying into the US (let alone NH) from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea. There are no direct flights.

None.

You’d have to transfer somewhere else first, and if you’ve got screening at the airports for temperature, you might catch people who are sick from ailments unrelated to Ebola, and possibly miss someone who isn’t yet symptomatic, which makes temp checks unreliable.

The low transmissibility also makes it exceptionally tough to get - Duncan’s fiance didn’t get Ebola, even after he was actively showing symptoms for two days (fever, vomiting, etc.).

But since politicians have elections to win, they’ll stake out nonsensical positions to appear that they’re doing something about a “hot button” issue that has in fact little relevance to actual events or the jurisdiction in question.

If Shaheen wants to be at forefront of health policy, she would be demanding that everyone get vaccinated for the flu and other diseases for which vaccines are available, which kills more people than Ebola infections worldwide so far (or which infects several magnitudes more than total Ebola infections ever). Or she could push for more people to be heart healthy, or question firearms accessibility.

But she’s going the “easy” route by seeking out flight bans. From countries that don’t have direct flights to the US.

322 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:06:42am

HURR HURR WOMENS DONTS NEEDS EQUAL PAYS OR ABORSHUNS THEY CAN HAS GUNZ!!!!!11!!!

323 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:07:03am

re: #318 Eventual Carrion

I brought that up to the twit I was tweeting with:

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Another thing to consider is that the insurgents were blowing up materiel that was costly to replace and move. A modern battle tank is not a Sherman, something that can be turned off an assembly line by the thousands in a week. Same holds true for the Hinds that were getting blown out of the air by Stinger missiles. Insurgencies are about bleeding the enemy dry, whether that’s by killing more men than he can train, destroying all of his toys faster than he can build them, or sapping support at home to the point that politicians can no longer justify the expense.

324 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:07:44am

I believe the real
#WarOnWomen
is perpetuating a myth that they’re incapable of personal responsibility & independence from
#BigGov

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Which is why we have to outlaw abortion because women can’t be responsible.

325 BigPapa  Oct 21, 2014 8:07:47am

re: #311 Vogon Poetry

Eh, they’ll still be calling for flights to be canceled from West Africa, even though there are no direct flights to the US from Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia, which is where the outbreak is now contained (Senegal and Nigeria have managed to stop the outbreaks there due to people traveling into the country as Duncan did in a flight via Brussels).

But the greater threat is that too many people are using Ebola as an excuse to kick people off flights because they’re black, or not allowing them to attend school even if they’re from a country 2,600 miles away from where the outbreak is occurring, etc.

The fear, hysteria, and panic from a breathless media hyping the threat to the US has let fly all manner of derp. And the GOP gleefully plays into this by claiming the President and Democrats have failed at something, even though all the failures are the result of a Dallas hospital being incapable of following infection control protocols.

IT’S THE MEDAI! THE MEDAI!

326 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:09:06am

re:
#320

ISIS!!!!!!111 ISIL coming over Mexican border!!!!!!11

327 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 8:09:23am

Voter fraud? That’s the meme today? Okay. After a study of more than one billion votes cast, researchers found all of 31 suspected instances.

It’s far easier for an elections official to throw out ballots and depress turnout or deny legitimate voters from voting by lacking ID. Disenfranchising voters is far more insidious and is the unspoken goal of Voter ID proponents.

Cutting back hours for voting is likewise disenfranchising far more voters than any voter fraud of the kind that Voter ID may claim to prevent.

328 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 8:11:34am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!!!

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Hey Chuck…like, you know…um…uh, I think you are, like you know a fucking bozo.

(Now that Chuck has his gig on MTP, he seems to be even more full of crap. But hey, it finally chased me as a viewer after 30 or so years of paying attention. Good job Chuck, you freed up some of my time!)

Morning Lizards!

329 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:12:25am

Meanwhile, the heating/air-conditioning unit in my office is malfunctioning. Only blasting hot air. Can’t turn the fan off and turning it to cool only gets more hot air. Ugh.

330 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 8:12:56am
331 ChuckJager95  Oct 21, 2014 8:13:57am

re: #197 Alyosha

He’s a lovable small govt character on ‘Parks And Rec’. His tidbits of ‘wisdom’ are funny because they’re cleverly packaged criticisms of how conservatives tend to think. Lovable mostly because he’s a liberal caricature and not a true reflection of the truly absurd rightist movement.

The right does the same thing with Archie Bunker an awful lot… takes a quote lifted from All in the Family written by a flaming liberal delivered by a character played by a flaming liberal meant to be a scathing parody of conservative ideals, but then portrays it as completely straight.

Are they that shameless or that stupid?

332 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 8:14:15am

re: #329 Bulworth

Meanwhile, the heating/air-conditioning unit in my office is malfunctioning. Only blasting hot air. Can’t turn the fan off and turning it to cool only gets more hot air. Ugh.

The GOP occupation has begun.
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333 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:15:50am

re: #331 ChuckJager95

The right does the same thing with Archie Bunker an awful lot… takes a quote lifted from All in the Family written by a flaming liberal delivered by a character played by a flaming liberal meant to be a scathing parody of conservative ideals, but then portrays it as completely straight.

Are they that shameless or that stupid?

Satire is lost on wingnuts, except when they want to use it in defense of Rush the Hutt or St. Coulter (Our Lady of Bitterness).

334 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 8:15:52am
335 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 8:16:04am

Checking the sample ballot so I can see who is running for the various judge posts, so I can check out the ones I don’t know.
Two women are running for Kentucky’s Sixth District Supreme Court. While judge candidates are non-partisan on the ballot, one of the women is a raving lunatic, if her website is any indication:
Teresa Cunningham
the ONLY Republican In The 6th District Supreme Court Race

“Never before have the citizens of this state and nation witnessed such an assault on our liberty. Most alarming is seeing the foundation of our society being unraveled by the very branch of government meant to protect it. I revere the Constitution and disagree strongly with those that would corrupt its meaning. As your Supreme Court Justice, I will stand against those who would alter the principles of our Constitution and defend the values important to the people of our community.”

arrrggggggggg……..

336 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:16:23am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

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337 BigPapa  Oct 21, 2014 8:16:58am

We should ban all flights between Dallas and Fort Worth.

338 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:17:36am

Travel bans are idiotic. We haven’t done a full-scale travel ban since the Spanish flu. Ebola simply doesn’t rise to that level.

A disease that is harder to transmit than HIV has a bunch of people in this country wetting the bed. It’s crazy. WTF.

339 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 8:19:30am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

Stop the Ebola bungling! To show seriousness, ban travel.

Which isn’t based on science, health policy, or a rational examination of the facts, but on feelings and psychological factors - security theater.

If we were going to consider travel bans for infectious diseases, we’d shut down flights during influenza season, which is getting underway now (and kills/infects each year far more than Ebola has in 40 years). We’d shut down modes of travel and areas affected by measles outbreaks (far more transmissible), etc.

Instead, there’s nothing but silence.

Much of the talk about travel bans is latent or active racism combined with xenophobia.

340 Timothy Watson  Oct 21, 2014 8:21:40am

@#$%!:

Staples is investigating a possible data breach

Staples said on Tuesday that it is investigating “a potential issue” with its customers’ credit card data.

“We take the protection of customer information very seriously, and are working to resolve the situation,” said Mark Cautela, a Staples spokesman.

Cautela said that Staples has contacted law enforcement about a possible data breach and pledges that it will not hold customers liable for any fraudulent activity if a breach is confirmed.

washingtonpost.com

I managed to avoid the Home Depot and Target breaches, don’t think I’m escaping this one.

341 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:22:18am

We didn’t even put up travel bans for H1N1 or SARS, and those killed more Americans than Ebola has. The US hasn’t had a blanket travel ban since Reagan instituted one on HIV-infected persons in ‘87.

342 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:23:12am
343 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:24:16am
345 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 8:25:14am
346 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 8:26:20am

re: #338 Lidane

Travel bans are idiotic. We haven’t done a full-scale travel ban since the Spanish flu. Ebola simply doesn’t rise to that level.

A disease that is harder to transmit than HIV has a bunch of people in this country wetting the bed. It’s crazy. WTF.

Not sure about this. I’d say “Essentially as hard to transmit as HIV but with a astronomically tiny percentage of the seroprevalence” maybe?

E: Not sure about “astronomically” here but I don’t know a word that means “having lots of zeroes but right of the decimal and really small rather than left of the decimal and really big”. Infinitesimal maybe?

347 gwangung  Oct 21, 2014 8:26:20am

re: #345 NJDhockeyfan

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Then reject it 5 seconds later.

348 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 8:27:02am

re: #345 NJDhockeyfan

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DNC should consider a Cuomo ban.

349 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:27:41am

BABY DOUCHE THINKS HE IS OH SO CLEVER

350 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 8:29:23am
351 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:29:25am

re: #346 Schadenboner

Not sure about this. I’d say “Essentially as hard to transmit as HIV but with a astronomically tiny percentage of the seroprevalence” maybe?

Fair enough. I’m just saying it’s really hard to get. Plus, ebola DOES have a lower R0 rate than HIV, so in a way it’s harder to spread once someone has the disease.

352 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 8:29:53am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Such articulate
Much journalism
Very wordsmith

353 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 8:29:58am

Outbreak of Flamingos devastates dinosaur population!

Ban avian migration!
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354 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:30:27am

Very support, much patriotism:

355 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 8:30:41am

Well the Ebola scare does one thing. It demonstrates how fear can and does bring out the worst in people. You may think you know someone, but you never do. Add in fear of the unknown and the real character comes out as it seems to blow up the daily facade.

Ebola is a great political expose. I hope people are really watching the responses.

356 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 8:31:42am

re: #354 Lidane

This is the same loser asshole that said autistic children are fakers who just need a little discipline.

357 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 8:31:52am

re: #348 Schadenboner

DNC should consider a Cuomo ban.

They can add 2 more to that list…

358 blueraven  Oct 21, 2014 8:32:44am

re: #339 Vogon Poetry

Stop the Ebola bungling! To show seriousness, ban travel.

Which isn’t based on science, health policy, or a rational examination of the facts, but on feelings and psychological factors - security theater.

If we were going to consider travel bans for infectious diseases, we’d shut down flights during influenza season, which is getting underway now (and kills/infects each year far more than Ebola has in 40 years). We’d shut down modes of travel and areas affected by measles outbreaks (far more transmissible), etc.

Instead, there’s nothing but silence.

Much of the talk about travel bans is latent or active racism combined with xenophobia.

Marsha Blackburn will be disappointed, as she suggested Bill Frist should have been appointed Ebola Czar, while she pushes for travel ban.

359 Internet Tough Guy  Oct 21, 2014 8:32:45am

re: #355 ObserverArt

I am, and I’ve concluded that we’re totally fucked if a Spanish Flu-level event happens.

QUARANTINES FOR EVERYONE

360 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 8:33:38am

re: #345 NJDhockeyfan

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NJD…do you want a ban?

Going by the stuff your linking to, I’m getting the feeling you want to see a ban.

361 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 8:33:57am

re: #359 Internet Tough Guy

I am, and I’ve concluded that we’re totally fucked if a Spanish Flu-level event happens.

QUARANTINES FOR EVERYONE

BAN FLIGHTS FROM SPAIN!!

362 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:37:39am

re: #358 blueraven

Marsha Blackburn will be disappointed, as she suggested Bill Frist should have been appointed Ebola Czar, while she pushes for travel ban.

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She’s not that original, I had a wingnut propose it the day of Klain’s being named as Czar. When I pointed out Frist’s most famous bungle, he immediately shut up.

363 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 8:38:03am

re: #357 NJDhockeyfan

They can add 2 more to that list…

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Southerners I am willing to extend more leeway, especially given that Hagan is in a (very) tight race.

Cuomo is a consistent disappointment, as was his father.

E: I can’t find the “I have decided to run … [starter’s pistol] … I have decided not to run” clip from The Critic (New York Marathon episode, maybe?) so let’s just pretend I inserted it here:

(This is where the “Video” button would be).

(This is where the video would be, if I had found it, if you clicked the “Video” button above (which isn’t actually there)).

364 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 8:38:28am

re: #360 ObserverArt

NJD…do you want a ban?

Going by the stuff your linking to, I’m getting the feeling you want to see a ban.

Kinda hard to agree with Cuomo since there are no direct flights coming in from the infected countries so my answer is NO. How about you?

365 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:38:38am

re:
#354

Michael Savage blasts veterans with PTSD as losers and crybabies who are destroying America

Hey, Michael Savage is trying very hard and warning us all of the dangers to come from a future Civil War which he is really trying hard to stop if we’d just do whatever he says and also if we would buy his book about stopping the Civil War.

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366 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:40:49am

re:
#357

Kay Hagan and Mark Pryor call for a travel ban over Ebola

This was from Friday so hopefully they’ve calmed down since then. And just because they’re in tight races in the South doesn’t excuse them to act stupid. So no pass from me.

367 Timothy Watson  Oct 21, 2014 8:40:52am

re: #362 Targetpractice

She’s not that original, I had a wingnut propose it the day of Klain’s being named as Czar. When I pointed out Frist’s most famous bungle, he immediately shut up.

My memory is hazy today, what was Frist’s most famous bungle?

368 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 8:41:09am

This is easy. You simply create a separate area on the planes / buses / trains for people who may be suspected for being at risk of Ebola, or being someplace where ebola was reported, or being from the same continent as ebola, or possibly just looking like somebody who could be from someplace where there is Ebola. I’d recommend putting that section in the back, and while it’s seperate, let’s try to make is appear to be equal. //Surprised_it_hasn’t_been_suggested

RBS

re: #321 Vogon Poetry

Pandering for votes. In an election year, even as health experts and anyone who bothers to look at a map would recognize that there isn’t a threat of someone flying into the US (let alone NH) from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea. There are no direct flights.

None.

You’d have to transfer somewhere else first, and if you’ve got screening at the airports for temperature, you might catch people who are sick from ailments unrelated to Ebola, and possibly miss someone who isn’t yet symptomatic, which makes temp checks unreliable.

The low transmissibility also makes it exceptionally tough to get - Duncan’s fiance didn’t get Ebola, even after he was actively showing symptoms for two days (fever, vomiting, etc.).

But since politicians have elections to win, they’ll stake out nonsensical positions to appear that they’re doing something about a “hot button” issue that has in fact little relevance to actual events or the jurisdiction in question.

If Shaheen wants to be at forefront of health policy, she would be demanding that everyone get vaccinated for the flu and other diseases for which vaccines are available, which kills more people than Ebola infections worldwide so far (or which infects several magnitudes more than total Ebola infections ever). Or she could push for more people to be heart healthy, or question firearms accessibility.

But she’s going the “easy” route by seeking out flight bans. From countries that don’t have direct flights to the US.

369 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:42:01am

re: #367 Timothy Watson

My memory is hazy today, what was Frist’s most famous bungle?

Diagnosing Terri Schiavo from a video clip.

370 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 8:42:15am

re:
#358

The most effective
#Ebola
containment is to address the problem in Africa, not ban flights.
t.co
— Bill Frist, M.D

Hurr hurr RINO!!!!11

372 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:44:08am

re: #371 Dr. Matt

Here’s why you should never shine a laser at a police helicopter

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Your corporate firewall will tell you this category is “Adult” and not allowed.

373 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 8:46:26am

re: #371 Dr. Matt

Here’s why you should never shine a laser at a police helicopter

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Busted.

374 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 8:46:27am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a Judge running in Lexington, where the bottom of his campaign poster states:
“Serving Families and Veterans”

Of course we know why people running for any office do this, but it implicitly states that he does not serve non-families and non-veterans. I’ll get a picture of a HUGE yard sign of his and post it later on today.

375 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 8:46:34am

re: #372 Vicious Piebola

Your corporate firewall will tell you this category is “Adult” and not allowed.

Odd. Not here. I linked and embedded from Daily Dot.

376 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 8:46:41am

re: #370 Bulworth

re:
#358

Hurr hurr RINO!!!!11

The catch being they don’t want to pay for it.

377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 8:47:05am

re: #355 ObserverArt

Well the Ebola scare does one thing. It demonstrates how fear can and does bring out the worst in people. You may think you know someone, but you never do. Add in fear of the unknown and the real character comes out as it seems to blow up the daily facade.

Ebola is a great political expose. I hope people are really watching the responses.

Ebola appeals to those wellsprings of xenophobia, racism and ignorant rage that the TPGOP has been fostering along for so long now.

378 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 8:47:11am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

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With all due respect, who gives a fuck what the FDNY has to say about a travel ban?

What makes him any type of expert on the subject? Seriously.

379 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:47:18am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Odd. Not here. I linked from Daily Dot.

Liveleak is embedded at DailyDot so the firewall blocked it.

380 Decatur Deb  Oct 21, 2014 8:47:31am

Scanning for updates on the two nurses under treatment, you find that CCJ’s bullshit is working. News service blogs Christian Today and The Epoch Times are acting as conduits pumping the “boyfriend ID” stories back and forth and into a number of other tabloid blogs. It looks more coordinated than opportunistic.

381 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 8:47:52am

re: #378 makeitstop

With all due respect, who gives a fuck what the FDNY has to say about a travel ban?

What makes him any type of expert on the subject? Seriously.

Because (Noun) (Verb) 9-11.

382 Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 21, 2014 8:48:02am

re: #339 Vogon Poetry

Which isn’t based on science, health policy, or a rational examination of the facts, but on feelings and psychological factors - security theater.

Neither was a color coded chart showing the terrorism threat level, but it sure did feel good didn’t it? Bush was DOING SOMETHING.

Gah.

383 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 8:48:25am

re: #371 Dr. Matt

West Midlands Police! Badass.

384 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 8:48:49am

re: #379 Vicious Piebola

Liveleak is embedded at DailyDot so the firewall blocked it.

Ah. I see the code now. I’m surprised it didn’t get blocked on my end considering the filters here are pretty strict.

385 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 8:49:14am

re: #364 NJDhockeyfan

Kinda hard to agree with Cuomo since there are no direct flights coming in from the infected countries so my answer is NO. How about you?

No. I think there should be awareness of course. I think if there are restrictions it should be controlled by the countries that are hit the hardest by the outbreak. Even then I don’t think a pure ban, but maybe a way for their citizens to get a medical clearance to fly and then the airports checking those clearances. But then, I will be the first to admit I know very little how it should be handled and am willing to let the people trained in disease control do their thing.

Which means I will pay no attention to your common America politician, the news media, famous actors and sports figures, etc.

I heard a doctor the other day say something that most people are not catching. He said that in most cases, once an Ebola victim reaches the state of being able to contaminate they are so sick they will most likely not be in any shape to go out and do anything.

386 Ian G.  Oct 21, 2014 8:50:48am

re: #354 Lidane

Very support, much patriotism:

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I suppose it would be a stupid question to ask whether Michael Savage ever served in the armed forces and has any idea what it entails.

387 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 8:50:53am

OMG if Obama thinks that we should do XYZ I totally agree we should do XYZ because Obama is the bestest, you know?

389 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:55:36am

For once, he’s right:

391 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 8:57:28am

re: #368 RealityBasedEbola

This is easy. You simply create a separate area on the planes / buses / trains for people who may be suspected for being at risk of Ebola, or being someplace where ebola was reported, or being from the same continent as ebola, or possibly just looking like somebody who could be from someplace where there is Ebola. I’d recommend putting that section in the back, and while it’s seperate, let’s try to make is appear to be equal. //Surprised_it_hasn’t_been_suggested

RBS

How expensive will it be to install the separate ventilation system so that the separate seating actually has much effect?
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Oh wait, it’s all about putting the brown people in the back of the plane, isn’t it?
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392 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 8:57:41am

Only a PC libtard would see a problem with this.

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393 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 8:58:32am

re: #374 nearly-headless smith25

There is a Judge running in Lexington, where the bottom of his campaign poster states:
“Serving Families and Veterans”

Of course we know why people running for any office do this, but it implicitly states that he does not serve non-families and non-veterans. I’ll get a picture of a HUGE yard sign of his and post it later on today.

Does he apply a nice marinade before roasting and serving them up? Might have learned that from some time in the Royal Navy.
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394 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 8:59:02am

re: #392 Lidane

Only a PC libtard would see a problem with this.

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Funny, when I saw that story yesterday from a wingnut, it was attributed to the Daily Heil.

395 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 8:59:31am

re: #392 Lidane

Only a PC libtard would see a problem with this.

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I have not been able to find that reported outside of the RWNJ echo chamber. I suspect it’s a bunch of bullshit.

396 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 9:00:20am

re: #378 makeitstop

With all due respect, who gives a fuck what the FDNY has to say about a travel ban?

What makes him any type of expert on the subject? Seriously.

Do the EMTs in NYC fall under the FDNY? In that case I would understand them having some concern since union members would be potential first responders to people exposed and showing symptoms.

That aside, it doesn’t excuse panic-y fearmongering and wanting to do something meaningless.

397 A Mom Anon  Oct 21, 2014 9:00:25am

re: #354 Lidane

One thing America seems to be growing a bumper crop of is horrible human beings getting rich off of being horrible human beings.

I hope his ass breaks out in boils. AND I would so love to see this courageous patriot say that shit in a room full of veterans. I’d pay actual money for that.

398 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 9:01:21am
399 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:02:31am

re: #395 Vicious Piebola

I have not been able to find that reported outside of the RWNJ echo chamber. I suspect it’s a bunch of bullshit.

My understanding is that the source of screaming fits is an draft RFP for blank card stock in the event that Congress takes action on immigration reform, not action by the President.

400 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 9:02:45am

re: #366 Bulworth

re:
#357

This was from Friday so hopefully they’ve calmed down since then. And just because they’re in tight races in the South doesn’t excuse them to act stupid. So no pass from me.

That why I don’t trust any politician. They will change their stance on anything if they think it will generate more votes. At the end of the day I realize they are all a bunch of fucking liars. Whoever is the better liar is wins!

401 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 9:06:11am

re: #388 Vogon Poetry

They’re first responders and the EMS / EMT is actually part of the Firefighters union. They’re first responders, and they are getting special training to address possible Ebola patients.

Point taken.

However, I’m noticing that NJD’s posts on this subject all seem to point to liberals (or presumed liberals) - Cuomo, Shaheen, a union guy - calling for a travel ban. ‘Gotcha’ games.

402 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 9:08:17am

This is interesting.

403 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 9:08:23am
404 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 9:08:40am

This is the original story: lightbox.time.com

Also, if I may say so, Schadenboner Jr. looked *way* better at 29w5d. What a difference a week makes.

E: To clarify, Schadenboner Jr. looked better at 29/5 than David did at 28 (click through to the story). I think he still looks better but that’s just genes talking.

405 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 9:09:54am

Gee, what a surprise… /

406 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 9:11:53am

re: #392 Lidane

I’ve been waiting to post these… Apparently HC didn’t do a great job at Godfathers, and there are the numbers to show it. Godfathers sales went down, while overall pizza sales were up nationally.

jayraskin.wordpress.com

jayraskin.wordpress.com

407 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 9:13:16am

re: #406 RealityBasedEbola

Herman Cain is also the reason why the minimum wage for service industry workers is $2.13/hr. Screw him and his 9-9-9 self.

408 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 9:13:59am

hahahahahahahahaa…

409 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 9:15:23am
410 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 9:15:39am

*headdesk*

411 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 9:17:24am

re: #409 NJDhockeyfan

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We’ve got a scarecrow down, I say again: scarecrow down.

412 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 9:19:23am

re: #402 NJDhockeyfan

413 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 9:19:49am

re: #409 NJDhockeyfan

Nice trail along the canal through that area (Fairport, NY). Good area in general for bicycling.

414 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 9:21:03am

re: #402 NJDhockeyfan

Yeah, interesting. 94% of all people from Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia enter through these five airports already (so this isn’t any change for them). This new policy will address the remaining 6% for screening purposes. These airports are the large international gateways: JFK/Newark (the busiest airport and 4d busiest for international travel in the nation), Dulles, Atlanta and Chicago.

In other words, this will add a leg of travel for the few people who might get connecting flights in Europe for US destinations other than the five airports named above.

415 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 9:22:22am

re: #398 Vicious Piebola

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Of all of the Founders to put god-words into the mouth of. Fucking Jefferson?

He of the Jefferson Bible (de-supernaturalized Christian Bible, R. Mordecai Kaplan would have been so proud…)?!?

416 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:22:55am

re: #410 Lidane

*headdesk*

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They’ve been trying for years to overcome the image of Christ as a defender of the weak and impoverished, so what better way than to say that he was wrong for doing so.

417 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 9:24:27am

re: #416 Targetpractice

They’ve been trying for years to overcome the image of Christ as a defender of the weak and impoverished, so what better way than to say that he was wrong for doing so.

Ramsey was going for an argument I’d never heard before, which was that the sacrifice of the crucifixion negated everything Jesus said beforehand. I am amused.

418 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 9:24:32am

re: #416 Targetpractice

They’ve been trying for years to overcome the image of Christ as a defender of the weak and impoverished, so what better way than to say that he was wrong for doing so.

I expect that First Church of Christ, Venture Capitalist should be officially declared soon.
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419 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 9:24:52am

Good Dog, I just got a notification that this dipshit, EbolaLieExposed, is following me on Disqus. Every post from this loser is about conspiracies, hoaxes, and false flags.

420 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 9:25:10am
421 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:27:06am

re: #417 Lidane

Ramsey was going for an argument I’d never heard before, which was that the sacrifice of the crucifixion negated everything Jesus said beforehand. I am amused.

They already pick and choose what they like from the OT, guess it was time they started telling people that Christ’s teachings were À la carte as well.

422 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 9:28:05am

re: #417 Lidane

Ramsey was going for an argument I’d never heard before, which was that the sacrifice of the crucifixion negated everything Jesus said beforehand. I am amused.

Jesus has the power to contradict Himself. If you say He doesn’t, you’re going to hell!!

423 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 9:28:15am

re: #421 Targetpractice

They already pick and choose what they like from the OT, guess it was time they started telling people that Christ’s teachings were À la carte as well.

Jesus never said rich people COULD NOT get into heaven, he just said it was harder.

424 Dr. Matt  Oct 21, 2014 9:28:33am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahahaa…

Has Chuck Todd declared that Sen. Pat Roberts has “disqualified himself”?

425 klys  Oct 21, 2014 9:29:31am

re: #421 Targetpractice

They already pick and choose what they like from the OT, guess it was time they started telling people that Christ’s teachings were À la carte as well.

He had too much in there about “helping the poor” and “loving your neighbor” and you can’t forget the absolutely horrible things he did to the Pharisees and the “render unto Caesar” bit.

426 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 9:29:48am

re: #410 Lidane

*headdesk*

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♫ Your derp decal won’t get you into heaven anymore ♪

427 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:30:53am

re: #423 Vicious Piebola

Jesus never said rich people COULD NOT get into heaven, he just said it was harder.

A distinction lost on people who worship at the altar of “Free Market Christ.”

428 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 9:32:04am

re: #425 klys

He had too much in there about “helping the poor” and “loving your neighbor” and you can’t forget the absolutely horrible things he did to the Pharisees and the “render unto Caesar” bit.

Jesus had his disagreements with some members of the Pharisee sect as well as the Temple bureaucrats (Sadducees) but his teaching actually are very close to what was common Jewish teaching of the time.

429 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 9:33:23am

re: #410 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Dave Ramsey made that statement on Pat Roberston’s 700 Club program. And, Robertson heaped praise on Ramsey and his book, which he described as “biblically sound all the way through.”

What the hell???

Damn, all that Catholic teaching I went through by all those nuns that took the simple life to teach us was wrong.

There must be a special Christianity for the 1% then. And the 47% Mitt spoke about should be cast to hell for being deadbeats!

Who knew.

430 klys  Oct 21, 2014 9:33:29am

re: #428 Vicious Piebola

Jesus had his disagreements with some members of the Pharisee sect as well as the Temple bureaucrats (Sadducees) but his teaching actually are very close to what was common Jewish teaching of the time.

I was mostly referencing the scene with the marketers in the temple, so if I made the wrong reference I apologize. It’s been a while since I read the Bible. Still on the first can of Diet Mountain Dew. :)

*Edited because morning.

431 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 21, 2014 9:33:38am

re: #297 bill d

Who doesn’t enjoy a good butt rub?

[Embedded content]

The vet assistant gowns, gloves and masks like that just to express the anal glands or take a stool sample?

But kudos to you for taking good care of your dog.

432 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 9:33:40am

BEES!!!!!

433 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 9:34:35am

re: #430 klys

I was mostly referencing the scene with the marketers in the temple, so I made the wrong reference I apologize. It’s been a while since I read the Bible. Still on the first can of Diet Mountain Dew. :)

434 klys  Oct 21, 2014 9:35:11am

re: #433 Lidane

Yeah, that one!

I like that depiction. :D

435 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 9:35:36am

re: #50 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what Keefie is going to dress as for Halloween?

Kirk Cameron?

436 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 9:35:51am

re: #432 bill d

BEES!!!!!

[Embedded content]

eBEEla!!!!

RBS

437 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:35:53am

438 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 9:37:47am

re:
#429

Get rich make money and then get raptured. It all makes sense.

//

439 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 9:37:51am

re: #431 BeenHereAwhile

The vet assistant gowns, gloves and masks like that just to express the anal glands or take a stool sample?

But kudos to you for taking good care of your dog.

That is the Ebola Dog ©

440 Ace-o-aces  Oct 21, 2014 9:38:23am

re: #354 Lidane

441 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 9:38:25am

re: #437 Targetpractice

Thank you….

I was looking for that one… I thought I had it on this laptop, but it’s not. Maybe I should move all my “political commentary images” into the cloud.

RBS

442 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 9:38:44am
443 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 9:40:29am

re: #442 Kragar

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They put the country first? Hey Bill, how about you go to Arlington, to the graves of the 5000 Americans they planted with their “War on Terrorism,” and say that shit.

444 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 9:40:58am

re: #423 Vicious Piebola

Jesus never said rich people COULD NOT get into heaven, he just said it was harder.

How it was explained to me from a priest in high school.

“Needles” was a trading town that for some reason had very small entrance portals (eyes) to get into the city. If a very rich man with his camels laden to the hilt with belongings and such wanted to get in he had to unload the camels to enter through the portal (eye). This parable was thus that the rich had to unload their belongs and holdings (unpack the camels) before they could enter.

So it would be difficult but not impossible.

445 Ace-o-aces  Oct 21, 2014 9:45:54am

re: #412 Lidane

446 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 9:50:05am

Wingnuts are so desperate, they are spamming that stupid picture of some guy in diapers with Al Franken’s head Photoshopped on it.

447 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 9:51:50am

re: #444 Eventual Carrion

How it was explained to me from a priest in high school.

“Needles” was a trading town that for some reason had very small entrance portals (eyes) to get into the city. If a very rich man with his camels laden to the hilt with belongings and such wanted to get in he had to unload the camels to enter through the portal (eye). This parable was thus that the rich had to unload their belongs and holdings (unpack the camels) before they could enter.

So it would be difficult but not impossible.

I don’t want to be mean, but this is an old (possibly medieval) invention to make wealthy people feel better about their chances with the god guy.

Jesus (at least according to the Luke author) was pretty down on rich people.

448 Schadenboner  Oct 21, 2014 9:51:54am

re: #446 Vicious Piebola

Wingnuts are so desperate, they are spamming that stupid picture of some guy in diapers with Al Franken’s head Photoshopped on it.

The original guy being, who, Senator Vitter?

449 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 9:52:54am

re: #448 Schadenboner

The original guy being, who, Senator Vitter?

LOL probs

450 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)  Oct 21, 2014 9:53:23am

re:442

Bill O’Reilly: Democrats Vote For Free Stuff, Republicans Put The Country First

By demanding tax cuts even while the country’s military fights overseas.

451 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 9:55:37am

re: #447 iossarian

I don’t want to be mean, but this is an old (possibly medieval) invention to make wealthy people feel better about their chances with the god guy.

Jesus (at least according to the Luke author) was pretty down on rich people.

“Behind every great fortune is a great crime.”

(was that Voltaire? Perhaps I should look it up)

452 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 9:55:37am

Good. Curious as to know which one, probably not that dumbass who wanted to be the Snowden of North Korea

453 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 9:56:37am

re: #410 Lidane

*headdesk*

“If that’s the case, then Jesus’ blood that was spilled at Calvary isn’t powerful enough to get a rich man into heaven,” Ramsey said. “I think that’s called heresy. I’m pretty sure it is, look it up.”

Because a rich man hath no choice but to be rich, for that is God’s Will!!!

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 9:56:52am

re: #452 bill d

Good. Curious as to know which one, probably not that dumbass who wanted to be the Snowden of North Korea

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455 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 9:58:13am

re: #454 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s the guy who left a bible in the restroom. Good. 1 down, 2 to go.

456 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 9:58:38am

Brain break:

She seems nice.

457 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 21, 2014 9:58:56am

re: #439 bill d

That is the Ebola Dog (c)

Then it makes sense.

I’d reached my threshold level of “we’re all gonna die from Ebola” background noise, and had moved on.

Kudos to the people taking care of the dog.

458 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 10:00:13am

re: #452 bill d

Jeffrey Fowle

459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 10:01:04am

re: #456 De Kolta Chair

I think I met her once.

460 klys  Oct 21, 2014 10:01:36am

Our teardrop just went off to get the sunroof leak repaired (I’ve been slow because it’s been SUCH AN ISSUE here in CA with all the rain on us all the time).

Very strange to watch the husband drive off with it without me.

461 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 10:02:30am

I assume she ordered wine and breaded fish:

Christ the redeemer: Oklahoma woman claims Jesus will pay for her dinner and drinks

462 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 21, 2014 10:02:39am

This is bad. Just yesterday there were 49 new cases…

463 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 10:02:48am

It’s lunch time.
This is the Stupidest Meme Of The Day

464 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 10:02:50am

re: #459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I think I met her once.

Nowadays, it costs about $400/hour to meet her.
///

465 JustMark  Oct 21, 2014 10:03:17am

re: #453 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because a rich man hath no choice but to be rich, for that is God’s Will!!!

Did he write a whole book based on a weak-assed straw-man argument?

466 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 10:03:26am

re: #447 iossarian

I don’t want to be mean, but this is an old (possibly medieval) invention to make wealthy people feel better about their chances with the god guy.

Jesus (at least according to the Luke author) was pretty down on rich people.

He was a priest and I am agnostic, so no biggie to me. Just the way it was explained to us during religion class.

467 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 21, 2014 10:04:05am

re: #460 klys

Our teardrop just went off to get the sunroof leak repaired (I’ve been slow because it’s been SUCH AN ISSUE here in CA with all the rain on us all the time).

Very strange to watch the husband drive off with it without me.

Why does the sunroof only leak on the driver’s side?

468 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 10:04:39am
469 Ace-o-aces  Oct 21, 2014 10:04:57am
470 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 10:05:23am
471 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 10:05:45am

re: #444 Eventual Carrion

How it was explained to me from a priest in high school.

“Needles” was a trading town that for some reason had very small entrance portals (eyes) to get into the city. If a very rich man with his camels laden to the hilt with belongings and such wanted to get in he had to unload the camels to enter through the portal (eye). This parable was thus that the rich had to unload their belongs and holdings (unpack the camels) before they could enter.

So it would be difficult but not impossible.

That sounds lame. I am pretty sure that a “needle” was always a pin with a hole at one end to put thread in

472 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 10:06:19am

re: #463 Vicious Piebola

Pay for your own police protection and courts, pay for your own roads, pay for your own food and health inspectors.

Just pay for everything and shut up. I got mine.

and don’t forget to vote GOP!!!

473 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 10:07:38am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Pay for your own police protection and courts, pay for your own roads, pay for your own food and health inspectors.

Just pay for everything and shut up. I got mine.

and don’t forget to vote GOP!!!

Janie’s resume could fit in a Tweet
1. Played tennis at the country club
2. Married a rich guy

Simples! Anyone can do it, Libtards!

474 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 10:08:12am

re: #463 Vicious Piebola

It’s lunch time.
This is the Stupidest Meme Of The Day

[Embedded content]

And let me guess, she’s self-educated, never took money from anybody, and has worked for everything she’s got, right?

475 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 10:08:21am

Oh wait it’s Amy not Janie. I get my wingnuts mixed up sometimes.
Amy’s bio has “psycho” in it.

476 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 10:08:23am
477 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 10:08:52am

re: #474 Targetpractice

And let me guess, she’s self-educated, never took money from anybody, and has worked for everything she’s got, right?

SHE BUILT ALL HER OWN ROADS!!!!!!!

478 klys  Oct 21, 2014 10:09:17am

re: #467 BeenHereAwhile

Why does the sunroof only leak on the driver’s side?

It actually does, strangely.

Which would be his side, hahaha.

479 Lidane  Oct 21, 2014 10:09:34am
480 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 10:11:55am

re: #471 Vicious Piebola

That sounds lame. I am pretty sure that a “needle” was always a pin with a hole at one end to put thread in

As were most all other explanations of bible readings from my catholic school incarceration.

481 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 10:14:15am

re: #459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I think I met her once.

I think Amy Mek is her.

482 Eventual Carrion  Oct 21, 2014 10:14:40am

re: #478 klys

It actually does, strangely.

Which would be his side, hahaha.

The side the drain hole is plugged on.

483 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 10:35:39am

re: #432 bill d

BEES!!!!!

[Embedded content]

STUPID BEES

484 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 10:40:33am

OT. But since were discussing pin head and his disguises, And Halloween is coming up. I thought I would share a pic of one of the best costumes I have seen this year.

485 EbolaSpotinAL  Oct 21, 2014 11:20:15am

re: #456 De Kolta Chair

Brain break:
[Embedded image]

She seems nice.

It’s Nurse Diesel!

486 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 21, 2014 5:29:57pm

re: #132 Amory Blaine

Has anyone told the story behind that graphic? Ya know, the ‘scar’?


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