Ron Paul Says Rand Paul’s “Travel Ban” Idea Is “Politically Motivated”

One of those rare moments when the elder Paul seems saner than his son
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Here’s one of those moments for which we live, as crazy uncle Ron Paul says his crazy son Rand’s idea of a ban on travel to and from West Africa is “politically motivated.” Instant classic.

Ron Paul on Monday said that calls for a ban on travel from West African countries affected by Ebola are primarily “politically motivated” — just days after his son Sen. Rand Paul announced his support for one.

Appearing on Newsmax TV’s “America’s Forum” with former Arizona Republican Rep. J.D. Hayworth, Ron Paul said he wouldn’t support a travel ban. “Right now, I would say a travel ban is politically motivated more than something done for medical purposes,” the former Texas congressman and three-time presidential candidate told Hayworth.

Rand Paul, the Kentucky senator openly considering a 2016 presidential bid, said on a radio show last week that a temporary travel ban is “only reasonable,” BuzzFeed noted Monday.

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233 comments
1 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 1:35:31pm

Youtube Video

2 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:39:40pm

Infighting increases ratings???

3 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:40:38pm

Controversy between political family members is politically driven.

4 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 1:41:04pm
5 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 1:43:30pm

Reminds me of the genius NPR campaign jingle segment from a few years back. A cowboy banjo strums, and a plaintive baritone intones:

Ron Paul
Ron Paul
Ron Paul…

He’s the truest of them all

6 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 1:44:50pm

No reason a father and son have to agree on everything.

My dad’s a creationist.

7 Ed E. Lishus  Oct 21, 2014 1:45:21pm

Charles,

I love that you used a photo of Paul the Elder in front of a Confederate Flag, lest any of us here have any inclinations that, despite his rightfully calling out Paul the Younger, he is still anything but batshit crazy.

8 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 1:46:08pm

Is this going to cause a bit of a vacuum in the Paul-O-Sphere?

Of course, one must consider there are already some pretty big vacuums in both Pauls…

9 Mattand  Oct 21, 2014 1:46:13pm

When Daddy Paul’s inadvertent criticism of son Aqua Bhudda is pointed out to him, the walkback will be fucking epic.

10 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:50:16pm
11 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:51:19pm

hmmmmm …

12 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:52:33pm
13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 21, 2014 1:52:38pm

re: #10 FemNaziBitch

Biff!

14 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:55:04pm

The new definition of safe sex?

15 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 1:55:57pm

re: #11 FemNaziBitch

hmmmmm …

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Well, to be fair, most of the folks who gave me shit as a kid for ‘using big words’ were fairly stupid.

16 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 1:56:41pm

You know the most frustrating thing about having the Fugitive in the house? It’s been a while since I’ve had a puppy. My vision has gotten much worse.

I used to be able to look over to the side of the room in which the puppy was misbehaving and identify what exactly was going on.

NOW, I have to get out of my chair and actually go over there and see.

17 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 1:57:59pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, to be fair, most of the folks who gave me shit as a kid for ‘using big words’ were farily stupid.

Six letters is as big as I go.

18 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 1:58:28pm

re: #16 FemNaziBitch

You know the most frustrating thing about having the Fugitive in the house? It’s been a while since I’ve had a puppy. My vision has gotten much worse.

I used to be able to look over to the side of the room in which the puppy was misbehaving and identify what exactly was going on.

NOW, I have to get out of my chair and actually go over there and see.

Aging sucks

19 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 1:58:51pm

re: #17 Dead Tired

Six letters is as big as I go.

Oh, really?
//

20 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 1:59:56pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, really?
//

Absolutely.

21 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:00:24pm

re: #20 Dead Tired

Absolutely.

I seen what ya done there.
//

22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 2:00:53pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, to be fair, most of the folks who gave me shit as a kid for ‘using big words’ were farily stupid.

I got all kinds of problems for that as a kid, although I was not trying to show off, I just read a lot, which seemed to annoy or intimidate a lot of my classmates.

23 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 2:02:45pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I got all kinds of problems for that as a kid, although I was not trying to show off, I just read a lot, which seemed to annoy or intimidate a lot of my classmates.

I had a lot of kids thinking I was trying to be better than them. I wasn’t.

24 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:04:07pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I got all kinds of problems for that as a kid, although I was not trying to show off, I just read a lot, which seemed to annoy or intimidate a lot of my classmates.

I grew up in a farm town that had a somewhat anti-intellectual culture, and I grew up in a family of smart people who read a lot and like to speak precisely, so I caught a lot of shit.

My favorite was the guy who told me I was ‘Igganurnt’. So I asked him to spell it. I think he got as far as the two G’s before telling me to shut up.

25 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:05:03pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I got all kinds of problems for that as a kid, although I was not trying to show off, I just read a lot, which seemed to annoy or intimidate a lot of my classmates.

Same here. I was reading stuff like Stephen King in the 6th grade and knew a ton of big words. Got to 7th grade and my English teacher didn’t want me reading stuff like steven king because “ZOMG SWEAR WORDS AND SEX!” I went from reading long novels and books (read to kill a mockingbird in 5th grade) to reading shit like “Island of The Blue Dolphin” which was probably (to me) 4th grade level.

26 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:05:05pm

Who is Lucy Parsons?
The Principles Of Anarchism —of which I cannot make heads or tails.

27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 2:05:37pm

re: #23 Dead Tired

I had a lot of kids thinking I was trying to be better than them. I wasn’t.

In the mostly black neighborhood where I grew up , there were kids who picked on me, but others who stood up for me, as they thought it was cool to associate with someone “smart”, I guess.

But when we moved to a mostly white working-class neighborhood, the kids were merciless and nobody stood up for me. They really felt intimidated, I guess.

28 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:06:31pm

One of my supervisors said she just told people I couldn’t help my vocabulary because I was raised by educators.

I guess people were complaining about me.

29 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 2:06:44pm

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

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Who is Lucy Parsons?
The Principles Of Anarchism —of which I cannot make heads or tails.

I thought that was the Democratic Platform: VOTE RICH PEOPLE’S WEALTH AWAY AND GET ENDLESS FREE STUFF!!!

30 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 21, 2014 2:07:24pm

re: #28 FemNaziBitch

One of my supervisors said she just told people I couldn’t help my vocabulary because I was raised by educators.

I guess people were complaining about me.

It is scary dealing with people who do not have the concept of reading for fun and pleasure.

31 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:07:58pm

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought that was the Democratic Platform: VOTE RICH PEOPLE’S WEALTH AWAY AND GET ENDLESS FREE STUFF!!!

No property rights, no government,

Anarchism- The philosophy of a new social order based on liberty unrestricted by man made law, the theory that all forms of government are based on violence-hence wrong and harmful, as well as unnecessary.

Anarchy- Absence of government; disbelief in and disregard of invasion and authority based on coercion and force; a condition of society regulated by voluntary agreement instead of government.

sounds more like a commune. I can’t see it working on a global scale.

32 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 2:08:58pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I got all kinds of problems for that as a kid, although I was not trying to show off, I just read a lot, which seemed to annoy or intimidate a lot of my classmates.

It’s a personal pride thing. But instead of trying to improve their own knowledge they mock those that have. It does not make sense…but humans.

33 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:11:00pm

re: #31 FemNaziBitch

No property rights, no government,

sounds more like a commune. I can’t see it working on a global scale.

GLOBAL? I can’t see it working among more than two people.

34 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:12:27pm

re: #33 Blind Frog Belly White

GLOBAL? I can’t see it working among more than two people.

and even then if those two people are in a relationship there can still be violent reaction when one invades the others side of the bed.

35 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:13:23pm
36 klys  Oct 21, 2014 2:13:25pm

re: #34 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and even then if those two people are in a relationship there can still be violent reaction when one invades the others side of the bed.

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

37 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:14:19pm

re: #34 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and even then if those two people are in a relationship there can still be violent reaction when one invades the others side of the bed.

Or takes all the covers.

38 ObserverArt  Oct 21, 2014 2:15:06pm

re: #28 FemNaziBitch

One of my supervisors said she just told people I couldn’t help my vocabulary because I was raised by educators.

I guess people were complaining about me.

Having a vocabulary and a desire to want to learn are two of the biggest areas where the Catholic grade and high school education really helped me. It was easy to go to college and continue to want to learn.

I think the greatest thing a teacher can give a student is the realization you never stop learning and while it may not come to you now, don’t give up as you will catch up. And even if you don’t you might find yourself rewarded by discovering another area you do shine in.

39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:15:10pm

re: #36 klys

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

but you have no property rights! Both dogs and the cats must be allowed as well.

40 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:15:52pm

re: #36 klys

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

My wife briefly tried to get our then-newly adopted Greyhound to climb up on the couch. I said, “Are you NUTS? Look at the size of her!”

41 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:16:41pm

42 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:18:23pm

re: #36 klys

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

We purposely got a King Sized bed so there would be room for humans and dogs and the occasions in which our son (little at the time) wanted to sleep with us.

It didn’t work.

43 Ace-o-aces  Oct 21, 2014 2:18:53pm

And the dumb right-wing meme of the year award goes to.,.
Or, you know, any sane person.

That’s some fine parenting skills there I tells ya.

44 klys  Oct 21, 2014 2:19:03pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

We purposely got a King Sized bed so there would be room for humans and dogs and the occasions in which our son (little at the time) wanted to sleep with us.

It didn’t work.

The only reason I get as much of it as I do is because the cats are not allowed to be in the bedroom at night, since Problem Child likes to eat hair.

45 klys  Oct 21, 2014 2:19:28pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

And the dumb right-wing meme of the year award goes to.,.
Or, you know, any sane person.

That’s some fine parenting skills there I tells ya.

At least none of the kids have their fingers on the triggers?

/sigh

46 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:19:30pm

re: #41 FemNaziBitch

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Conversely, there’s the woman posting that stupid twitter thing that VB posted on an earlier thread that women shout put on the ‘big girl panties’ and not complain about things like unequal pay.

47 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:19:54pm
48 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 2:20:08pm

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In the mostly black neighborhood where I grew up , there were kids who picked on me, but others who stood up for me, as they thought it was cool to associate with someone “smart”, I guess.

But when we moved to a mostly white working-class neighborhood, the kids were merciless and nobody stood up for me. They really felt intimidated, I guess.

I had the same happen but in the opposite direction. I went from a rich, predominantly white HS where I was picked on to a poor diverse HS where I was accepted.

49 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:20:26pm
50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 21, 2014 2:20:30pm

re:
#46

Maybe RWNJ could put on some pants and stop whining about OBAMA GONNA TAKE ALL GUNZ!!!!1

51 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 2:21:43pm

re: #31 FemNaziBitch

No property rights, no government,

sounds more like a commune. I can’t see it working on a global scale.

I can’t see it working outside of small (less than 100 people) communes.

52 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 2:22:36pm

re: #36 klys

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

But, do you?

53 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:22:41pm
54 Ace-o-aces  Oct 21, 2014 2:22:56pm

re: #45 klys

At least none of the kids have their fingers on the triggers?

/sigh

Believe it or not, I saw someone comment on Facebook that there was nothing wrong going on here because the kids fingers were off the trigger….Nope, nothing else wrong here.

55 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:23:12pm

re: #51 Dead Tired

I can’t see it working outside of small (less than 100 people) communes.

Yeah, that’s been my experience as well. About 100 people …

56 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 2:23:34pm

re: #31 FemNaziBitch

No property rights, no government,

sounds more like a commune. I can’t see it working on a global scale.

See, they say all that, but when you and your buddies ride in on horseback, demand tribute and use of their women, they get all whiny and pissy.

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 2:23:41pm
58 Jenner7  Oct 21, 2014 2:24:02pm

My Dish seems to have gotten rid of CNN. Should I jump for joy??

59 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:24:05pm
60 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:24:19pm

re: #50 Bulworth

re:
#46

Maybe RWNJ could put on some pants and stop whining about OBAMA GONNA TAKE ALL GUNZ!!!!1

No, you see, they’re brave patriots for risking being thrown in FEMA camps and possibly guillotined with one of the 10,000 U-Build-It guillotines and dumped in one of the 30,000 FEMA caskets.

Must be pretty poor construction if you only get three decapitations out of a guillotine. Maybe they’re like disposable razors - you only really get three uses out of them.

61 Jenner7  Oct 21, 2014 2:24:45pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Excellent…..mwahahahahahaha…

62 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 2:25:13pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, that’s been my experience as well. About 100 people …

There is a scientific reason for that.

Dunbar’s number

Dunbar’s number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships. These are relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.[1][2][3][4][5][6] This number was first proposed by British anthropologist Robin Dunbar, who found a correlation between primate brain size and average social group size. By using the average human brain size and extrapolating from the results of primates, he proposed that humans can only comfortably maintain 150 stable relationships.[7] Proponents assert that numbers larger than this generally require more restrictive rules, laws, and enforced norms to maintain a stable, cohesive group. It has been proposed to lie between 100 and 250, with a commonly used value of 150.[8][9] Dunbar’s number states the number of people one knows and keeps social contact with, and it does not include the number of people known personally with a ceased social relationship, nor people just generally known with a lack of persistent social relationship, a number which might be much higher and likely depends on long-term memory size.

Dunbar theorized that “this limit is a direct function of relative neocortex size, and that this in turn limits group size … the limit imposed by neocortical processing capacity is simply on the number of individuals with whom a stable inter-personal relationship can be maintained.” On the periphery, the number also includes past colleagues, such as high school friends, with whom a person would want to reacquaint themself if they met again.[10]

63 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 2:25:44pm

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

Hmm. Not sure that’s going to be very effective at calming down 8 year olds when they work out at 9:30pm they’re going to die one day.

“It’s OK, honey, your atoms will live on as energy. Or mass. Possibly both!”

64 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2014 2:26:13pm

re: #36 klys

Dude, it’s a king size bed, I deserve more than 18 inches of it.

//

I thought the Feline Overlord(s) were in charge of bed surface distribution.

And you will take what you are given - and like it!

65 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:26:33pm
66 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:27:15pm

re: #63 iossarian

Hmm. Not sure that’s going to be very effective at calming down 8 year olds when they work out at 9:30pm they’re going to die one day.

“It’s OK, honey, your atoms will live on as energy. Or mass. Possibly both!”

I KNOW! I thought there might be a better way to say it.

67 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 2:27:27pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, that’s been my experience as well. About 100 people …

Tribe sized.

68 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:27:55pm

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

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Don’t feed them after midnight, and for the love of god, DON’T let them hold a Gay Pride parade on a rainy day!

69 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 2:27:56pm

re: #63 iossarian

Hmm. Not sure that’s going to be very effective at calming down 8 year olds when they work out at 9:30pm they’re going to die one day.

“It’s OK, honey, your atoms will live on as energy. Or mass. Possibly both!”

Easy Peasey

70 FemNaziBitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:28:21pm

bbl

71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:30:45pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

We purposely got a King Sized bed so there would be room for humans and dogs and the occasions in which our son (little at the time) wanted to sleep with us.

It didn’t work.

There is an equation for that that basically says the larger the bed the more room the dog will take up regardless of the size of the dog.

72 Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 21, 2014 2:32:48pm

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

I grew up in Texas with my single mom, who was Baptist. We weren’t hard-core church goers, but my mom believed in the bible. As a somewhat obedient child who wanted to please my mom, I had doubts about the whole “afterlife” concept but was too afraid to question my beliefs. I lived in fear: what if they were right, even if it didn’t make any rational sense? What if it really was a “sin” for me to even have those questions on my mind?

When I went to college and loosened the fuck up, I took acid on several occasions. On one of those occasions I felt the need to be alone, so I spent several hours in my room. During that time, I tripped the whole concept of death, the same way it is explained in your meme. My mind was completely blown.

Since then, I have told very few about the experience. But believing that there is no afterlife, as I have definitively since that experience, has always brought me great peace.

Oh, and I stopped doing acid. :)

73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:34:31pm

Steve King holds a press conference with Donald Trump (hilarity and racism ensues)

“I want to pull us all together under those principles to build America. That’s freedom of speech, religion, the press, the right to keep and bear arms — whether that’s to pick up a shotgun and shoot a pheasant or pick up a seven iron and discipline your husband.”

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 2:35:16pm

re: #71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There is an equation for that that basically says the larger the bed the more room the dog will take up regardless of the size of the dog.

Same thing works when it comes to oversized sofas:

75 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 2:36:11pm

re: #71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There is an equation for that that basically says the larger the bed the more room the dog will take up regardless of the size of the dog.

There are exceptions. Get a little bed for the little dog, and the big girl takes it over.

Get an even littler bed for the little dog….

76 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:37:10pm

re: #72 Flying Squirrel Girl

Yeah, I grew up with the whole fear of going to hell ingrained in me, not so much by my parents (who used to tell me to question everything until we got cable and fox news) but by other family members and neighbors (baptists and evangelicals). Even used to say that “Now I lay me down to sleep” prayer which was “for kids” looking back on it that was a creepy fucking prayer.

I mentally grew out of religion by the time I graduated high school but looking back the whole experience was pretty twisted.

77 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:37:36pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Same thing works when it comes to oversized sofas:

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Oh, man. How could that not be the next Tripe Dog?

Life is not fair.

78 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 2:39:09pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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YEEHAW! Cannot wait.

79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:39:43pm

re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White

my two dogs like to curl up near the warmest spots which tends to be near my or my wife’s backside. One night our chug pushed and squeezed between us to press up tight to my butt, she had annoyed me that day so I felt absolutely no guilt for ripping a particularly nasty fart just as she got “comfortable”. I did feel a bit bad when she whimpered and wiggled her way as fast as she could out from under the covers. But I did LOL.

80 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 2:41:53pm

What would I do without the FDA making sure that I do not become a drug addict like Dr. House?

I will just have to make friends with my pain, maybe get a wheelchair to ride around in.

81 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 2:42:43pm
82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 2:42:56pm

Palin brawl audio from Anchorage PD (some is NSFW)

83 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 2:44:23pm

re: #72 Flying Squirrel Girl

I actually think the afterlife concept is not particularly helpful to children, or at least any more so than the following (presented in bullet point format, of course):

A) I love you
B) we don’t really know what happens next, but see point A

84 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 2:44:44pm

re: #79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

my two dogs like to curl up near the warmest spots which tends to be near my or my wife’s backside. One night our chug pushed and squeezed between us to press up tight to my butt, she had annoyed me that day so I felt absolutely no guilt for ripping a particularly nasty fart just as she got “comfortable”. I did feel a bit bad when she whimpered and wiggled her way as fast as she could out from under the covers. But I did LOL.

Giving your dog a “Dutch Oven” is pretty harsh…

;-P

85 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 2:45:16pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Oh, sheez. Captain Douchecanoe of the S. S. FAILBOAT has graduated from threats of lawsuits to threats of police action? He needs to learn to shut up and keep it in his pants, he’s embarrassing himself.

Evening Lizardim from the cool, clear, and beautiful wild north country.

86 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:45:44pm

re: #84 TedStriker

Giving your dog a “Dutch Oven” is pretty harsh…

;-P

she rips them all the time and stinks up the place when we’re trying to watch TV, to me it was sweet, sweet revenge.

87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 21, 2014 2:46:27pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

The boy needs serious professional help asap.

88 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 2:46:44pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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He’s not suspended again yet? I reported him hours ago!

/

89 iossarian  Oct 21, 2014 2:48:09pm

JOURNAMALISM has been committed!

90 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 2:48:10pm

Got a wingnut riled up

91 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 2:48:23pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

Palin brawl audio from Anchorage PD (some is NSFW)

OMG This is gold. I wish this was an episode of cops.

92 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 2:49:02pm
93 Iwouldprefernotto  Oct 21, 2014 2:50:56pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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Is CCJ in the third grade?

94 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 2:51:23pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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I’m starting to get the impression that our dear UpChuck is something like Howard Wolowitz, only not nearly as funny or cool.

95 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 2:53:22pm

re: #94 theEbolafishlives

I can almost hear his mother-in-law yelling down the stairs, “CHUCK! GET UP HERE AND RUB MY FEET, THEY’RE ACHING!”

“NOT NOW, MOM, THERE’S SOMEONE YELLING AT ME ON THE INTERNET!”

96 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 2:56:02pm
97 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 2:58:08pm

re: #85 theEbolafishlives

Oh, sheez. Captain Douchecanoe of the S. S. FAILBOAT has graduated from threats of lawsuits to threats of police action? He needs to learn to shut up and keep it in his pants, he’s embarrassing himself.

Evening Lizardim from the cool, clear, and beautiful wild north country.

Man, I really hope he is calling into the cops wherever he thinks Charles lives, because I imagine that they’re either telling him to quit calling in frivolous reports and/or are laughing at him.

98 gwangung  Oct 21, 2014 2:59:06pm

re: #97 TedStriker

Man, I really hope he is calling into the cops wherever he thinks Charles lives, because I imagine that they’re either telling him to quit calling in frivolous reports and/or are laughing at him.

Nah, he’s too much of a crybaby to follow through. He’s just doing this to make himself look bigger to his fans (who ARE dumb enough to take it seriously)

99 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 3:00:35pm
100 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 3:04:50pm

CCJ: “Google me.”

“You’re the head of Obama’s Health and Human Services agency!”

“NO!”

“You’re a football player?”

“NO!”

“You’re a musician?”

“NO!”

“You’re the blogger?”

“I’M A JOURNALIST!”

“I thought Little Green Footballs was a blog?”

“I’M CALLING THE COPS!”

101 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 3:08:47pm

“…The DOJ estimated, based on the state’s supplied data when the federal agency blocked the law in 2012, “the total number of registered voters [in Texas] who lack a driver’s license or personal identification card issued by DPS could range from 603,892 to 795,955.”

102 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 3:14:07pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

And the dumb right-wing meme of the year award goes to.,.
Or, you know, any sane person.

That’s some fine parenting skills there I tells ya.

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 3:14:16pm

Scott Walker not having a good day:

Milwaukee County releases 16,000 emails collected in John Doe probe

104 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 3:16:36pm

The FDA fucked up like about 90% of chronic pain sufferers.

Because you know, they don’t want us to get addicted like Dr. House.

105 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 3:20:18pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Youtube Video

106 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 3:23:18pm
107 klys  Oct 21, 2014 3:23:38pm

I’ll just leave this here without comment for folks to reflect on.

* Edited to add: And no, that’s not Greenwald they’re talking about.

108 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 3:28:18pm

re: #63 iossarian

Hmm. Not sure that’s going to be very effective at calming down 8 year olds when they work out at 9:30pm they’re going to die one day.

“It’s OK, honey, your atoms will live on as energy. Or mass. Possibly both!”

Just to help them understand how truly insignificant and unimportant they and all humans are you need to explain that Earth came along late. No the Universe was not created for us, our planet didn’t even exist until billions of years later.

Earth and our entire solar system was formed from the debris from one of the early generation super giant stars death. I’m sure that will make them feel much better about things…

/// (hey, it’s true, deal with it brats) :p

109 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 3:28:27pm

re: #12 FemNaziBitch

Did the same thing up here in Canada, only with unemployment insurance. Government got in trouble. The number of people who counted as unemployed was reduced to about 1/3 of the people actually unemployed. The surplus went to general funds.

What is it about ‘conservatives’ that allows them to do such things without pricking their conscience, at least a little?

110 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 3:29:28pm

re: #93 Iwouldprefernotto

Is CCJ in the third grade?

Mentally, yeah.

111 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 3:29:50pm

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

Read any libertarian tract. They’re the same people a century later.

112 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:32:13pm

Poor Rand. Here ya’ go.

Video

113 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 3:33:33pm

re: #93 Iwouldprefernotto

Is CCJ in the third grade?

Nope, he never made it out of pre-school.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 3:33:39pm

heh…

115 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 3:34:23pm

I’d pay to see that.

116 Romantic Heretic  Oct 21, 2014 3:34:43pm

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

Well, at least she’s honest.

117 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 3:37:50pm

re: #83 iossarian

I actually think the afterlife concept is not particularly helpful to children, or at least any more so than the following (presented in bullet point format, of course):

A) I love you
B) we don’t really know what happens next, but see point A

I can definitely say that having one parent completely disinterested in religion while the other spent every waking minute planning for the rapture/tribulation and telling us we could die any second was not confidence building.

118 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 3:38:08pm

re: #115 De Kolta Chair

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I’d pay to see that.

oooooo so would I!

119 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 3:38:40pm

re: #115 De Kolta Chair

Wouldn’t it be funny for this to have a companion image where the white panel is removed to reveal Ted Cruz or some similarly malignant RWNJ.

120 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:39:50pm

re: #115 De Kolta Chair

My husband and I had a recent disagreement about the newer Godzilla movies. He preferred the 1998 Mathew Broderick movie. And I preferred the most recent, because it was more like the original.

121 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 3:41:05pm

re: #117 ausador

I can definitely say that having one parent completely disinterested in religion while the other spent every waking minute planning for the rapture/tribulation and telling us we could die any second was not confidence building.

That would be bizarre indeed. It’s also probably pretty rare to have that much difference in religious views in a marriage.

122 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:42:27pm

re: #121 EPR-radar

That was exactly my in laws marriage. He was not and she was crazy for Jesus. It was hell for him.

123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 3:43:03pm

re: #120 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

My husband and I had a recent disagreement about the newer Godzilla movies. He preferred the 1998 Mathew Broderick movie. And I preferred the most recent, because it was more like the original.

The “new” Godzilla with Mathew Broderick was ok but I definitely preferred the more recent one. Though it did seem that Godzilla put on a few tons over the years.

124 allegro  Oct 21, 2014 3:48:28pm

Just made another donation to Wendy Davis for the last push. Tomorrow I’ll do one better and cast my VOTE. :D

125 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 3:48:36pm

re: #122 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

That was exactly my in laws marriage. He was not and she was crazy for Jesus. It was hell for him.

Bingo, dad stayed out of it, would not discuss religion period, that was all left to mom and she was an undiagnosed manic depressive who used Jesus to fill in the low spots. From the time I was old enough to understand the concept at all I knew Jesus was going to come and kill us all any day now.
(obviously I didn’t quite grasp some of the nuances of the rapture/tribulation/judgement times yet)

126 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:51:40pm

re: #125 ausador

Yes, exactly! My MIL was a severe alcoholic and suffered from depression. She substituted Religion for alcohol and crisis.

127 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:54:49pm

re: #125 ausador

Well, you seemed to have weathered it quite well ausador.

128 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 3:55:53pm

re: #120 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

My husband and I had a recent disagreement about the newer Godzilla movies. He preferred the 1998 Mathew Broderick movie. And I preferred the most recent, because it was more like the original.

No, the BEST Godzilla movies are the ones where the actors mouths are speaking Japanese, but the words come out in English!

129 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 21, 2014 3:56:46pm

re: #128 Floral Giraffe

You got me there!

130 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 4:00:13pm

re: #120 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

My husband and I had a recent disagreement about the newer Godzilla movies. He preferred the 1998 Mathew Broderick movie. And I preferred the most recent, because it was more like the original.

Feel free to quote me as often as you like and in any context:

You are right blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo

131 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 4:00:22pm

Yup, they’re drawn to it like moths to a flame. And just as intelligent.

132 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:01:14pm

There was no Godzilla movie with Matthew Broderick, just like there were no sequels to the Highlander or the Matrix

133 klys  Oct 21, 2014 4:01:31pm
134 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 4:03:07pm

re: #100 Kragar

He’s a toaster?

He’s a espresso machine?

No wait, he’s a snow cone maker.

Oh wait, he’s a MIRV V weapons grade derpist.

That explains much.

135 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 4:03:11pm

re: #123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The “new” Godzilla with Mathew Broderick was ok but I definitely preferred the more recent one. Though it did seem that Godzilla put on a few tons over the years.

Well so has William Shatner…. so what’s your point?

RBS

136 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 4:04:45pm

One thing that jumped right out at me while listening to the Palin Brawl tape…

When the officer is trying to get the story on the guy ‘Korey’ who allegedly attacked Bristol, Todd is heard saying that he’d had altercations with Korey in the past. At which point, Sister Sarah jumps in and says ‘Didn’t he beat up his girlfriend once?’

You can hear the glee in her voice as she says it. Fucking shrew.

137 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 4:05:22pm

re: #132 Kragar

There was no Godzilla movie with Matthew Broderick, just like there were no sequels to the Highlander or the Matrix

Jurassic Park was a great film. Too bad they never made any sequels.

138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:05:23pm

re: #135 RealityBasedEbola

Well so has William Shatner…. so what’s your point?

RBS

maybe he’s been hanging out with Shatner for too long.

139 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 4:06:09pm

re: #135 RealityBasedEbola

Well so has William Shatner…. so what’s your point?

RBS

Yeah, but still not as big as Shatner’s ego.

140 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:07:19pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Jurassic Park was a great film. Too bad they never made any sequels.

I would love to see that one re-done in true 3d (not converted). But it would still never replace the original. I still remember the awe I felt seeing the original, especially when they first saw the brachiosaurus eating from that tree, my jaw dropped. Of course I was a kid with dreams of being a paleontologist who taught a class on dinosaurs in second grade so I was already a dino buff.

141 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 4:09:28pm

Oh Palins! You never fail to let me down!

Palin Family Brawl
Bristol: He Called Me A C**t and A Slut!
[INSANE AUDIO!]
10/21/2014 2:38 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE
102114_bristol_palin_launch_v2

Bristol Palin hysterically told cops during the epic drunken Palin family brawl in Alaska last month … that some guy knocked her down and called her a f**king c**t.

Read more: tmz.com

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 4:10:06pm

re: #136 makeitstop

One thing that jumped right out at me while listening to the Palin Brawl tape…

When the officer is trying to get the story on the guy ‘Korey’ who allegedly attacked Bristol, Todd is heard saying that he’d had altercations with Korey in the past. At which point, Sister Sarah jumps in and says ‘Didn’t he beat up his girlfriend once?’

You can hear the glee in her voice as she says it. Fucking shrew.

What also struck me was that none of them at the beginning of the audiotape knew Korey’s last name even though the party was at Korey’s house.
Drunken party crashers, the lot of them.

Oh, and for good “Christians”, they sure do like to say the F-word.
A lot.

143 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 4:12:28pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

What also struck me was that none of them at the beginning of the audiotape knew Korey’s last name even though the party was at Korey’s house.
Drunken party crashers, the lot of them.

Oh, and for good “Christians”, they sure do like to say the F-word.
A lot.

Fuckin’ A…

///

144 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:12:39pm

Ahem…

145 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 4:13:11pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

What also struck me was that none of them at the beginning of the audiotape knew Korey’s last name even though the party was at Korey’s house.
Drunken party crashers, the lot of them.

Oh, and for good “Christians”, they sure do like to say the F-word.
A lot.

That, too.

Drinkin’, swearin’ and fightin’ - 21st Century Christians, GOP style.

146 klys  Oct 21, 2014 4:13:31pm

re: #144 Kragar

Given the name on the mouse that has to be intentional.

I refuse to believe anything else.

147 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 4:13:38pm

re: #132 Kragar

There was no Godzilla movie with Matthew Broderick, just like there were no sequels to the Highlander or the Matrix

Or Aliens.

148 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 4:14:04pm

re: #144 Kragar

Ahem…

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I’m sure that was intentional. But ewwwwwww.

149 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:15:08pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

Or Aliens.

ok Aliens wasn’t bad and Alien 3 was a good way to end it all then they had to do that god awful Resurrection one.

150 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:15:18pm

Featured story at Gateway Douche: IL POLL WORKERS BREAK LAW- TELL OBAMA TO “VOTE DEMOCRAT” AT CHICAGO POLLING BOOTH (VIDEO)

669 comments and counting, be afraid. Be very afraid.

151 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:17:36pm
152 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 4:17:58pm

re: #144 Kragar

And only one thought on your mind!

153 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:18:11pm

re: #149 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

ok Aliens wasn’t bad and Alien 3 was a good way to end it all then they had to do that god awful Resurrection one.

AVP can get right the FUCK out.

154 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 4:18:20pm

re: #127 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

Well, you seemed to have weathered it quite well ausador.

I didn’t too well as a kid, but I got as far away from my folks as I could as soon as I could and things got better. Them in Florida and me in Alaska did wonders for my state of mind, lol. ;)

I’m glad I got to reconnect with them as an adult when they needed help due to major health problems. My brother and sister both had lives and kids that didn’t allow them to help as much as they wanted. I had just sold a business and some real estate halfway through 2006 because I saw the crash coming.

Me and mom still couldn’t connect because if anything she had gotten worse and resented my intrusion into her life. Their place was a hoarder pigsty of piled up junk and wasn’t safe for dad. I cleaned it up and thereby earned her enmity, she just couldn’t be happy without her “stuff” piled up everywhere.

Dad and I got along great however, by that time we could understand each other pretty much and I didn’t have to resent the things he couldn’t say.

I’m happy to have gotten the chance because before coming back to Florida I have to admit that I pretty much hated the both of them. By the time they passed I didn’t anymore and actually felt a fair amount of affection once again even towards mom who actively despised me.

Ehh, life is what it is, you just keep on moving forward and wait for the pleasant surprises that lurk around the corner every so often. If your constantly looking out for the nasty ones then you need to rethink your outlook on life. :p

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 4:18:25pm

For even more entertainment, Radar Online has the uncut, unbleeped version of the PalinBrawl.

156 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 4:18:49pm

re: #149 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

ok Aliens wasn’t bad and Alien 3 was a good way to end it all then they had to do that god awful Resurrection one.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!! The whole saga ends with Hicks, Newt, Ripley, and half of Bishop all safely in hypersleep, bound back to Earth, where you know that Hicks and Ripley will get married and adopt Newt.

All other opinions are invalid.

157 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 4:20:01pm

re: #144 Kragar

Ahem…

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Remember to be gentle with the scroll wheel, or it won’t work at all.

158 bill d  Oct 21, 2014 4:20:14pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

For even more entertainment, Radar Online has the uncut, unbleeped version of the PalinBrawl.

Remember the online crusade to keep that little shy wallflower on Dancing with the Stars?

What classy folks them and their supporters are.

159 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:21:57pm

re: #153 Kragar

AVP can get right the FUCK out.

The first one wasn’t so bad and I kinda dug the backstory, the second one can DIAF

160 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:22:08pm

And just in time for Halloween:

Youtube Video

161 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:23:12pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

For even more entertainment, Radar Online has the uncut, unbleeped version of the PalinBrawl.

Bristol: “I don’t want my face in a picture right now,” she said. “There’s nothing on my face except for beer and makeup.”

ITS JUST LIKE PROM!

162 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 4:23:35pm

re: #159 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The first one wasn’t so bad and I kinda dug the backstory, the second one can DIAF

De gustibus non est disputandum and all that, but seriously?

163 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:24:31pm

re: #159 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The first one wasn’t so bad and I kinda dug the backstory, the second one can DIAF

The original comic version was so much better though. It was set on a colony world, same time frame as the Alien movies. None of this Aliens on earth BS.

164 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:25:57pm

Dear right-wing nut job dickbags, No one running for election in 2006 admitted they voted for Bush or would be seen with him.

165 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:25:59pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

De gustibus non est disputandum and all that, but seriously?

I liked it for the whole mythos behind it, the idea of the temples being used for Predator rites of passage and the whole ancient aliens perspective. And it followed some of the AVP novel stuff but the second one was just ridiculous with the predalien spit injecting alien embryos into people.

That being said I liked Prometheus a lot and hope there are sequels to that one.

166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:28:36pm

re: #163 Kragar

The original comic version was so much better though. It was set on a colony world, same time frame as the Alien movies. None of this Aliens on earth BS.

Oh I agree it should have been set more in the timeline of the original movies but you had two universes colliding given that most of the predator movies took place in the current era. Add to that the scene in the predator ship at the end of Predator 2 where there was a queen alien skull mounted on the trophy wall along with several alien heads it worked to do it on the current timeline.

Personally I would have liked to see it follow the AVP novels vs doing what they did but the first one was not terrible.

167 prairiefire  Oct 21, 2014 4:32:51pm

Got my Royals shirt and i’m eating some BBQ! Let’s play some baseball!

168 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:34:22pm

re: #158 bill d

A five-year-old in the Palin douchecanoe while they are out getting drunk? Thanks, Senator McCain, you dick.

169 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:35:05pm

re: #167 prairiefire

Got my Royals shirt and i’m eating some BBQ! Let’s play some baseball!

Did you hear about the two radio stations in San Francisco that banned the playing of Lorde’s “Royals” until the World Series is over?

170 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 4:36:07pm

re: #168 Kid A

A five-year-old in the Palin douchecanoe while they are out getting drunk? Thanks, Senator McCain, you dick.

At midnight…

171 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 4:36:46pm

re: #166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh I agree it should have been set more in the timeline of the original movies but you had two universes colliding given that most of the predator movies took place in the current era. Add to that the scene in the predator ship at the end of Predator 2 where there was a queen alien skull mounted on the trophy wall along with several alien heads it worked to do it on the current timeline.

Personally I would have liked to see it follow the AVP novels vs doing what they did but the first one was not terrible.

I remember back in the early 90s, Dark Horse did a Predators story where a renegade Predator was loose on Earth, basically killing off a small town for fun, and another Predator was sent down to stop him for violating their hunting code.

172 prairiefire  Oct 21, 2014 4:37:08pm

Upper level singles at the K for $400, folks!

173 klys  Oct 21, 2014 4:37:45pm

Pretty sure I can find a hockey game to put on.

/thank god baseball is almost over

174 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:38:10pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

At midnight…

With grandma and grandpa…

175 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:38:39pm

re: #173 klys

Pretty sure I can find a hockey game to put on.

/thank god baseball is almost over

COMMUNIST!!!!

176 prairiefire  Oct 21, 2014 4:39:11pm

re: #169 Kid A

Did you hear about the two radio stations in San Francisco that banned the playing of Lorde’s “Royals” until the World Series is over?

Hahaha, yes! One of the stations here is playing it at least once on the hour.

177 klys  Oct 21, 2014 4:39:12pm

re: #175 Kid A

COMMUNIST!!!!

There are days I’m convinced I am meant to be a Canadian.

Which would totally be awesome, because health care!

178 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 21, 2014 4:39:36pm

re: #171 Kragar

I remember back in the early 90s, Dark Horse did a Predators story where a renegade Predator was loose on Earth, basically killing off a small town for fun, and another Predator was sent down to stop him for violating their hunting code.

I haven’t read that one, used to read the novels and had some of the comics. I was really hoping the AVP series would go the route of the novels with the girl being adopted into the pack/clan and hunting with them. Then it could have been cool. But nooooo they had to fuck it all up.

179 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 4:40:34pm

I really didn’t want to learn about GamerGate, just like I didn’t want to learn about the other GG. For one thing, it involves reading articles by people who look like this:

…and realizing they are NOT the crazy ones.

180 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 4:44:41pm
181 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 4:45:40pm

re: #179 wrenchwitch

Chris Kluwe’s take on the GamerGate fools has already been linked here, and says everything that needs to be said on that sorry subject.

182 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:46:23pm

SHOCKING. There is no proof a poll worker told Obama to “Vote Democrat” in the video that Dim Jim posted.

183 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 4:46:55pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Um, I’d go with “kiss my ass”, but then that’s me!

184 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 4:51:15pm

re: #182 Kid A

SHOCKING. There is no proof a poll worker told Obama to “Vote Democrat” in the video that Dim Jim posted.

But that would almost imply that Mr. Hoft posts unsupported supposition, sketchy conjecture and invalid assumptions. Of course, he does quickly retract and correct when his further research shows he posted in error. // I_Crack_Myself_Up

RBS

185 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 4:51:22pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Chris Kluwe’s take on the GamerGate fools has already been linked here, and says everything that needs to be said on that sorry subject.

But even he included a link on background.

I’ll get around to it….

186 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 4:52:45pm

Debating whether or not to go park my truck at the intersection in town tomorrow and wait until Mitch McConnell’s campaign bus passes by so I can wave an Alison sign at him.
And another sign that says “I’m not being paid to do this.”

187 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 4:55:28pm

re: #184 RealityBasedEbola

I’m having fun over there with them. They all say only SS agents or workers were there. Uh, wrong. He voted next to a younger black lady to his right, and an older lady to his left. Then the lady on his right’s boyfriend (Mike) tells Obama to not kiss her (I think) and Obama jokes with them all while they all vote.

188 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 4:55:46pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

Debating whether or not to go park my truck at the intersection in town tomorrow and wait until Mitch McConnell’s campaign bus passes by so I can wave an Alison sign at him.
And another sign that says “I’m not being paid to do this.”

Or a sign that says “My enthusiasm is NOT FOR SALE”.

189 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 4:55:56pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Wait, you went to the Dark Side? I didn’t know I was posting on a Sith Lord’s blog.

190 dog philosopher  Oct 21, 2014 4:56:22pm

re: #179 wrenchwitch

I really didn’t want to learn about GamerGate, just like I didn’t want to learn about the other GG. For one thing, it involves reading articles by people who look like this:

[Embedded image]

…and realizing they are NOT the crazy ones.

gerber baby haircut

191 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 4:56:29pm

re: #179 wrenchwitch

I really didn’t want to learn about GamerGate, just like I didn’t want to learn about the other GG. For one thing, it involves reading articles by people who look like this:

[Embedded image]

…and realizing they are NOT the crazy ones.

Don’t feel bad, you are just as much on the outside as 99% of those now following or embroiled in #gamergate the more you read the more confusing it can be. IF you ignore the fact that almost every accusation brought to justify the outrage on the part of the “activists” has been shown to be false.

If a Republican campaign machines disinformation represents macro-evolution then #gamergate is the perfect fit for micro-evolution. Hundreds of tiny lies and exaggerations told and retold and reworded more quickly than any rebuttal can be disseminated.

The trolls are having a field day by keeping it going and laughing at the huge number of people they have sucked in. Meanwhile people who have nothing to do with gaming but everything to do with MRA jump on the band wagon and are hailed as heroes for mouthing the right words between their attacks on any woman with an opinion.

It is truly a disgusting spectacle…

192 klys  Oct 21, 2014 4:58:23pm

re: #185 wrenchwitch

But even he included a link on background.

I’ll get around to it….

This all started by a blog post from a game developer’s ex-boyfriend alleging she cheated on him with a reviewer in order to get a good review.

That’s where the “ethics in gaming journalism” bit comes in.

That it’s happened to chase at least three women from their homes so far is irrelevant to the folks who think that this is SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE and WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THE COLLUSION and OMG ETHICS MATTER which yes, yes, they do, so why are you not running the fuck away from the folks who think that threats of rape and death are perfectly acceptable ways to do business?

(One of the other victims has the crime to make videos discussing how women are presented in video games. No, really. Apparently this is something worth being sneered over.)

193 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 5:00:14pm

BTW, there’s a hatchling on the recently troll-infested thread. Speaking of things I’d rather leave to others….

194 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 5:01:13pm

re: #192 klys

Is it a dudebro outbreak? Gaming subset of dudebros? The misogyny sounds very familiar.

195 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 5:01:34pm

Ben Bradlee, RIP.

196 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 5:03:08pm

re: #195 Kid A

Ben Bradley, RIP.

Look at that middle name:

197 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 5:04:54pm

re: #194 wrenchwitch

Is it a dudebro outbreak? Gaming subset of dudebros? The misogyny sounds very familiar.

GamerGate is really a steaming pile of offensive nonsense.

Amanda Marcotte has some useful thoughts on misogyny as the prime mover for this.

rawstory.com

198 klys  Oct 21, 2014 5:05:18pm

re: #194 wrenchwitch

Is it a dudebro outbreak? Gaming subset of dudebros? The misogyny sounds very familiar.

I can’t say for sure as I have done my absolute best to stay out of this cesspool, but. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a nontrivial overlap.

199 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 5:06:21pm

re: #193 wrenchwitch

BTW, there’s a hatchling on the recently troll-infested thread. Speaking of things I’d rather leave to others….

How odd that another one shows up to try to promote the same fear meme. Very, very odd.

200 klys  Oct 21, 2014 5:07:22pm

There are times I am an evil, evil person.

Therefore there is no quarantine time that will provide absolute assurance of no residual risk from contagion.

Ok, Republicans, how long should quarantine be after exposure? You go first. :D

201 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 21, 2014 5:07:44pm

re: #173 klys

Pretty sure I can find a hockey game to put on.

/thank god baseball is almost over

Amen.

Wonder if I can find a game of footie? Is the Mexican League on tonight?

202 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 5:11:01pm

re: #197 EPR-radar

GamerGate is really a steaming pile of offensive nonsense.

Amanda Marcotte has some useful thoughts on misogyny as the prime mover for this.

rawstory.com

Just like a liberal woman to play the race sex card! Blacks Women are the REAL racists misogynists!

203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 21, 2014 5:11:11pm

re: #185 wrenchwitch

The problem with the reporting on this 0th world “issue” is that it often seems to be fact-free opinionating. For example, the harassment is ascribed to the “movement” as a whole, not to a few miscreants (sort of like antisemitism and terrorism was ascribed to “occupy”). For all I know, maybe most of the GGers share the sentiment, but let’s have some studies or hard facts showing that before leaping to conclusions about a whole bunch of people being basically criminals. (The fact that some female GGers were harassed by some anti-GGers, including threats of vaginal mutilation may also merit mention).

204 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 5:12:28pm

The Palin audio tapes are amazing.

Someone is wailing.

205 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 5:14:40pm

re: #196 wrenchwitch

Look at that middle name:

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Not as odd as it seems; they’re an original pre-Revolution Boston family, Frank Crowninshield was the original editor of Vanity Fair in the early 1900’s, others were famous for other stuff.

Including, that Jacob Crowninshield brought the very first elephant to this country in the late 1700’s (he bought it in India, it was a big deal touring exhibit. No circus, just an elephant.)

206 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 5:15:02pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The problem with the reporting on this 0th world “issue” is that it often seems to be fact-free opinionating. For example, the harassment is ascribed to the “movement” as a whole, not to a few miscreants (sort of like antisemitism and terrorism was ascribed to “occupy”). For all I know, maybe most of the GGers share the sentiment, but let’s have some studies or hard facts showing that before leaping to conclusions about a whole bunch of people being basically criminals. (The fact that some female GGers were harassed by some anti-GGers, including threats of vaginal mutilation may also merit mention).

Leaping to conclusions is so much easier. I know if I start learning about it, I have to learn enough so I can complain about it fairly, because you’re watching!

/semi

207 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 5:22:34pm

re: #205 sagehen

Not as odd as it seems; they’re an original pre-Revolution Boston family, Frank Crowninshield was the original editor of Vanity Fair in the early 1900’s, others were famous for other stuff.

Including, that Jacob Crowninshield brought the very first elephant to this county in the late 1700’s (he bought it in India, it was a big deal touring exhibit. No circus, just an elephant.)

I reserve the right to find original pre-Revolution Boston family names ‘odd’. I remember when I found out a guy’s middle name was ‘Choate’. The scales fell from my eyes, and I knew he was east-coast elite, not the west coast hippie I had thought….

208 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 5:23:52pm

re: #204 Stanley Seabola

The Palin audio tapes are amazing.

Someone is wailing.

Should I feel bad for enjoying them? Nah!!!!

209 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:25:06pm
210 klys  Oct 21, 2014 5:25:08pm

Fuck it, I’m going back to not talking about the whole thing.

211 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 5:25:15pm

And for all the talk of Ebola, GamerGate and other exitential threats real and imagined, sometimes it’s nice to just go back to one of the classics.

Ladies and Gentlemen, for your derping pleasure, let me present an old favorite of yours…. The Gohmets

Louie Gohmert’s Ebola silver lining: Latinos too scared to cross border with infected Africans

212 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 5:26:04pm

3-0, Giants. Pence went deep.

213 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 5:27:29pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The problem with the reporting on this 0th world “issue” is that it often seems to be fact-free opinionating. For example, the harassment is ascribed to the “movement” as a whole, not to a few miscreants (sort of like antisemitism and terrorism was ascribed to “occupy”). For all I know, maybe most of the GGers share the sentiment, but let’s have some studies or hard facts showing that before leaping to conclusions about a whole bunch of people being basically criminals. (The fact that some female GGers were harassed by some anti-GGers, including threats of vaginal mutilation may also merit mention).

The essence of the GamerGate situation is simple enough —- an infestation of misogynists in the gamer community has decided to act out in very offensive ways.

Talk of ‘all’ is a straw man, as is talk of people being branded as criminals. It being a big internet, some anti-GG types have undoubtedly crossed the line. However, it is exceedingly hard to believe there is enough of that going on to change the basic picture.

214 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 5:27:31pm
215 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 5:28:44pm

re: #210 klys

Fuck it, I’m going back to not talking about the whole thing.

The GamerGate people are even worse than Breitbart fans. There’s a serious bad craziness loose in that crowd. I posted one mildly critical comment a few weeks ago at Twitter about it and within minutes I was getting deluged with nasty insults and hateful remarks.

216 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 5:32:58pm

Sounds like War of the Nerds to me.

217 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 5:34:37pm

re: #214 Vicious Piebola

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Yea, that just wrecks the “I don’t have my homework done” curve for everybody else.

RBS

218 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 21, 2014 5:35:37pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

The essence of the GamerGate situation is simple enough —- an infestation of misogynists in the gamer community has decided to act out in very offensive ways.

Thank you for your opinion.

Talk of ‘all’ is a straw man, as is talk of people being branded as criminals.

Sorry, but that’s exactly Kluwe’s point. I thought you recommended his take on the issue?

“Your reaction (and I am not making this up, because it’s been widely documented literally everywhere) to various articles proclaiming the death of the basement-dwelling, cheetos-huffing, poopsock-sniffing douchepistol, because games are so good now that they are common entertainment and thus everyone plays them, was to COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT by either:

a) Making misogynistic threats against a wide variety of female game developers and critics because somehow they’re going to keep games you enjoy from ever being made again

or

b) Being stupid enough to get sucked in by people busy making misogynistic threats against a wide variety of female game developers and critics, and supporting their idiotic crusade for the dumbing down of everyone everywhere ever.”

So a GG is either a harasser or supports harassment.

It being a big internet, some anti-GG types have undoubtedly crossed the line. However, it is exceedingly hard to believe there is enough of that going on to change the basic picture.

I’m sure some GGs and some anti-GGs have crossed the line. That’s the only thing that is clear from the “reporting” so far.”

219 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:39:19pm

re: #209 teleskiguy

This fuckin’ guy! He’s nothing if not persistent.

He’s currently vigorously copy pasta this exact tweet to anyone who dares post the sweet sweet police audio from that fateful Anchorage, AK night with Saint Sarah’s Twitter handle attached.

220 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 5:41:39pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

This fuckin’ guy! He’s nothing if not persistent.

[Embedded content]

He’s currently vigorously copy pasta this exact tweet to anyone who dares post the sweet sweet police audio from that fateful Anchorage, AK night with Saint Sarah’s Twitter handle attached.

Apparently she knows enough to ball her fist up.

221 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 5:42:44pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

Cammo dress, lol. New episode of the Wasilla Hillbillies!!!!

222 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 5:44:07pm

There is going to be some serious com-uppances dealt out when St. Sarah comes riding back into town….

re: #219 teleskiguy

This fuckin’ guy! He’s nothing if not persistent.

[Embedded content]

He’s currently vigorously copy pasta this exact tweet to anyone who dares post the sweet sweet police audio from that fateful Anchorage, AK night with Saint Sarah’s Twitter handle attached.

223 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:45:40pm

re: #222 RealityBasedEbola

There is going to be some serious com-uppances dealt out when St. Sarah comes riding back into town….

[Embedded image]

I am tweeting this image!

224 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 5:47:47pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

I am tweeting this image!

It’s fake - Jesus doesn’t have his Winchester.

225 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:48:34pm

I think the profanity is appropriate, it’s how they talk!

226 dog philosopher  Oct 21, 2014 5:50:16pm

re: #222 RealityBasedEbola

There is going to be some serious com-uppances dealt out when St. Sarah comes riding back into town….

[Embedded image]

“consider the stegosauruses of the field…”

227 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 5:50:34pm

re: #221 Kid A

Cammo dress, lol. New episode of the Wasilla Hillbillies!!!!

Camo Bra / Panties Set

She actually has the whole designer ensemble. That just screams “Alaskan Sex Kitten” doesn’t it.

RBS

228 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:00:53pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

This fuckin’ guy! He’s nothing if not persistent.

[Embedded content]

He’s currently vigorously copy pasta this exact tweet to anyone who dares post the sweet sweet police audio from that fateful Anchorage, AK night with Saint Sarah’s Twitter handle attached.

In the audio, Willow told the police that Bristol was throwing punches but kept missing.

229 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 6:01:50pm

re: #218 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

…
I’m sure some GGs and some anti-GGs have crossed the line. That’s the only thing that is clear from the “reporting” so far.”

One more thing that is clear is that Gamergate started in the misogynist sewers of 4chan, and hasn’t materially changed since then.

freethoughtblogs.com

storify.com

230 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 6:14:04pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The problem with the reporting on this 0th world “issue” is that it often seems to be fact-free opinionating. For example, the harassment is ascribed to the “movement” as a whole, not to a few miscreants (sort of like antisemitism and terrorism was ascribed to “occupy”). For all I know, maybe most of the GGers share the sentiment, but let’s have some studies or hard facts showing that before leaping to conclusions about a whole bunch of people being basically criminals. (The fact that some female GGers were harassed by some anti-GGers, including threats of vaginal mutilation may also merit mention).

Except that from what I have seen first hand the majority of the physical threats originate from the trolls, they are egging this one and attacking both sides to keep it going. Thus you have people from the anti-GG side saying look at these logs! And also people from the pro-GG side saying look at theses logs! While claiming that all such attacks are a false flag and conveniently ignoring that many of the pro and anti attacks came from the same friggin’ place!

Look into the claims themselves, the ones that supposedly show a lapse in ethics by gaming reporters and try to find any that can be substantiated. Disgruntled ex-boyfriend claims girlfriend slept with reviewer to get better review, only no proof and “reviewer” has never written a game review for his current employer.

More proof surfaces to disprove supposed “affair for review” scandal and ex-boyfriend releases naked pictures of girlfriend “destroying her credibility” because after all only sluts pose naked, right? Followed by new story that while “reviewer who isn’t a reviewer” didn’t actually write the review he still somehow influenced the one that was written by someone else.

Almost every single story coming out of #gamergate is like that, including the completely wrong and baseless attacks on the chief editor of Polygon. Maybe if the “activists” actually had something to hang their hat on besides half-truths and outright lies I would be more inclined to give them a hearing. But as things stand now? Fuck them, they are being led around by the nose by a bunch of juvenile trolls and MRA’s doing this for fun.

231 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 6:20:00pm

re: #197 EPR-radar

GamerGate is really a steaming pile of offensive nonsense.

Amanda Marcotte has some useful thoughts on misogyny as the prime mover for this.

rawstory.com

You know the MRA and dudebro gamers are going to go after Marcotte with a vengeance; she’ll mop the floor with them.

232 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 6:29:07pm

re: #231 TedStriker

You know the MRA and dudebro gamers are going to go after Marcotte with a vengeance; she’ll mop the floor with them.

Or end up staying with a friend after she gets doxed and the personalized rape and death threats come pouring in. Just like the last three females who had the audacity to make themselves targets of the GG campaign have had to do after saying something negative about it.

233 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 6:41:18pm

re: #232 ausador

Or end up staying with a friend after she gets doxed and the personalized rape and death threats come pouring in. Just like the last three females who had the audacity to make themselves targets of the GG campaign have had to do after saying something negative about it.

Amada Marcotte is a visible feminist in the US with an internet presence. Therefore, there is no doubt that she has already received numerous rape and death threats from misogynists.


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