The Police Audio of the Palin Family’s Post-Drunken Brawl Interviews Is Not Pretty

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Radar Online has posted the unedited audio of police interviewing people after the Sarah Palin family’s drunken brawl last September at a party in Anchorage, and it’s a trash-fest if there ever was one. Warning: Bristol and Willow Palin drop plenty of F-bombs and other initial-bombs too. Tell the kids to leave the room before you listen.

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1 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:51:51pm
2 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 21, 2014 5:52:42pm

I can’t listen to that much concentrated, pickled Palin, sorry.

Also, what do you call a group of Palins? A derp of Palins?

3 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:53:45pm

Once again, thank you Senator McCain for inflicting this plague upon this nation. If ever we needed proof that you long ago went senile, this is it.

4 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:54:33pm

This was posted downstairs at about the same time this front page article was published, so I’ll go ahead and bring it up here.

I find the profanity appropriate, it is how they talk!

5 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 21, 2014 5:54:46pm

Imagine if anyone remotely connected to the Obamas did this.

6 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 5:54:55pm

It’s very enlightening to hear what the Palin family is really like when they’re not made up for the cameras.

7 Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2014 5:55:49pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

Imagine if anyone remotely connected to the Obamas did this.

Or the Clintons. Or the Carters. Or any Democrat you care to name.

8 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:56:46pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

Imagine if anyone remotely connected to the Obamas did this.

Congressional Hearings, Angry George Will Editorials, Mark Levin Finally Has Aneurysm On Air…

9 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 5:57:15pm

We have another Ebola scare tonight, and Chuck is all over it, of course.

Passenger Lands at Newark With Fever, Evaluated at Hospital for Possible Ebola: Sources

10 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 5:57:35pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Congressional Hearings, Angry George Will Editorials, Mark Levin Finally Has Aneurysm On Air…

So, not an unalloyed disaster.
//

11 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 5:57:54pm

HAHAHA!

12 klys  Oct 21, 2014 5:58:19pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

So, not an unalloyed disaster.
//

There is a pun to be made here, about balls of steel or some-such.

13 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 5:58:37pm

Evening kids.

14 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 5:59:14pm

How much profanity could a pickled palin pronounce, if a picked palin could pronounce profanity?

RBS

15 Jenner7  Oct 21, 2014 5:59:52pm

Oh, that was so delicious…..

16 dog philosopher  Oct 21, 2014 6:00:36pm

re: #2 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I can’t listen to that much concentrated, pickled Palin, sorry.

Also, what do you call a group of Palins? A derp of Palins?

so you’re saying you dont relish it?

17 PhillyPretzel  Oct 21, 2014 6:00:41pm

re: #14 RealityBasedEbola

I prefer a peck of pickled peppers. It is easier on the tongue. /half

18 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 6:01:05pm

re: #16 dog philosopher

so you’re saying you dont relish it?

Doesn’t cut the mustard with me…. I’ll be frank about it.

RBS

19 wrenchwitch  Oct 21, 2014 6:04:02pm

Don’t ask, I don’t know.

Later, lizards.

20 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:03pm

Sarah oh Sarah.

I figured she would be one of the silent ones. Nope.

21 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:08pm
22 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:50pm

re: #19 wrenchwitch

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Don’t ask, I don’t know.

Later, lizards.

They are looking to bring in the Gohmert trade.

RBS

23 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:05:54pm

re: #19 wrenchwitch

Asparagus and cold beer is one of life’s unsung pleasures.

24 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:06:41pm

To the GROUND

Tonya Harding redux.

25 BlueGrl21  Oct 21, 2014 6:08:59pm

This could have been our First Family. Can you imagine them meeting Queen Elizabeth, Pope Francis, or God help us, any Nobel Prize laureate? Representing the citizens of the United States to ANYONE?

Jesus.

26 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 6:10:34pm

re: #25 BlueGrl21

This could have been our First Family. Can you imagine them meeting Queen Elizabeth, Pope Francis, or God help us, any Nobel Prize laureate? Representing the citizens of the United States to ANYONE?

Jesus.

We’d be better off sending the Robertson family, hillbilly beards and all.

27 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:10:58pm
28 piratedan  Oct 21, 2014 6:12:05pm

so…. 10 minutes in, the Palin’s are going manic because they haven’t interviewed the “aggressor” and complain that he’s going to leave and then proceed to have yet another interview thus preventing the very same thing that they profess to want. Those girls are a piece of work, gotta believe that… everyone else just trying to tell their side of the story and these girls are straight out of a Jerry Springer episode, all we need now is to determine who is the father of the child… sheesh.

29 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 6:13:12pm

JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!

30 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:13:46pm

re: #28 piratedan

These are not smart people.

31 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:14:57pm

The police officer doing the interview sounds Canadian

32 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:14:58pm

So much CYA. These Alaskan’s are freaking scared of the Palins.

33 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:19pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Yeah, someone landed at one of the 5 airports that 96% of passengers who might come from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea might arrive at.

And that person may have symptoms that might be Ebola.

Or not.

Like hundreds of other cases that turned out not to be Ebola.

Or the hundred+ people who have been cleared after the quarantine/isolation periods. Or Duncan’s fiance who didn’t get it despite being in close contact with him when he was sick.

It’s good that we’re checking these instances out to be safe, but the single best way to stop the spread of Ebola is to stop it in Africa - and that means a lot more resources devoted there. And Chuckles and the rest of the right wing seem to be opposed to doing that.

34 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:29pm

re: #31 Vicious Piebola

The police officer doing the interview sounds Canadian

How do Canadians sound?

35 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:40pm

re: #32 Stanley Seabola

So much CYA. These Alaskan’s are freaking scared of the Palins.

Absolutely. You can really tell that these cops know they’re in the presence of politically connected people. They’re walking on eggshells.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:41pm

re: #28 piratedan

so…. 10 minutes in, the Palin’s are going manic because they haven’t interviewed the “aggressor” and complain that he’s going to leave and then proceed to have yet another interview thus preventing the very same thing that they profess to want. Those girls are a piece of work, gotta believe that… everyone else just trying to tell their side of the story and these girls are straight out of a Jerry Springer episode, all we need now is to determine who is the father of the child… sheesh.

One of the funniest parts is that “the aggressor” in the red shirt that “is going to leave” is Korey Klingenmeyer, and all of this happened AT HIS HOUSE.
And at the beginning of the audio, none of the Palins know who he is.

37 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:51pm

re: #34 Dead Tired

How do Canadians sound?

Like you

38 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 6:16:58pm

re: #34 Dead Tired

How do Canadians sound?

Funny.
/

39 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 21, 2014 6:17:23pm

You know, the meteoric rise, rapid decline, and long, asymptotic approach to obscurity of Sarah Palin is proof of Lincoln’s saying:

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

40 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:17:45pm

re: #37 Vicious Piebola

Like you

In my head, or your head?

41 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:18:04pm

Oh goodie, the best part is coming. Track Palin, who misspells his last name.

42 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:18:17pm

“I doon’t knoo whoo thi fock they are”

43 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:15pm

re: #28 piratedan

so…. 10 minutes in, the Palin’s are going manic because they haven’t interviewed the “aggressor” and complain that he’s going to leave and then proceed to have yet another interview thus preventing the very same thing that they profess to want. Those girls are a piece of work, gotta believe that… everyone else just trying to tell their side of the story and these girls are straight out of a Jerry Springer episode, all we need now is to determine who is the father of the child… sheesh.

Many many years ago, when I was assigned to Ft. Ord in Monterey, CA, the conference room next to our shop had a TV. At lunchtime we would all pile in there for Jerry.

Thing was, no matter how bad your day was going, no matter how messed up things were in your life, you could figure after watching Springer, you’d walk out with the attitude “Hey, my life doesn’t really suck, not like those people on TV”

Funny thing, he was, at one time, the fast rising star of the Democratic party. He was the youngest mayor of any major American city. (I believe it was Columbus, or possibly Cincincinnati, but I’m too lazy to look it up)

44 bratwurst  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:17pm

re: #34 Dead Tired

How do Canadians sound?

Youtube Video

45 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:36pm

re: #33 Vogon Poetry

Yeah, someone landed at one of the 5 airports that 96% of passengers who might come from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea might arrive at.

And that person may have symptoms that might be Ebola.

Or not.

Like hundreds of other cases that turned out not to be Ebola.

Or the hundred+ people who have been cleared after the quarantine/isolation periods. Or Duncan’s fiance who didn’t get it despite being in close contact with him when he was sick.

It’s good that we’re checking these instances out to be safe, but the single best way to stop the spread of Ebola is to stop it in Africa - and that means a lot more resources devoted there. And Chuckles and the rest of the right wing seem to be opposed to doing that.

Well, yeah. Because that would mean spending money on something that isn’t tied to religious legalism.

46 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:51pm

re: #32 Stanley Seabola

So much CYA. These Alaskan’s are freaking scared of the Palins.

And, rightfully so!

47 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:19:57pm

” What happened to you?”
“I think I… tripped and fell…”

48 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:00pm

re: #40 Dead Tired

In my head, or your head?

What are you talking aboot?

49 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:19pm

re: #44 bratwurst

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Video

What’s wrong with that?

50 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:21:22pm

“Korey wasn’t even here.”

51 bratwurst  Oct 21, 2014 6:22:07pm

re: #49 Dead Tired

What’s wrong with that?

Nothing at all. You asked a question and I merely tried to provide the answer. :)

52 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:22:07pm

Sarah herself insinuated the guy Bristol punched beat up his wife or girlfriend. amaze

53 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:22:10pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

What are you talking aboot?

What are you talking abowt?

54 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:22:26pm

re: #51 bratwurst

Nothing at all. You asked a question and I merely tried to provide the answer. :)

Beer is always good.

55 dog philosopher  Oct 21, 2014 6:23:21pm

(sings)

i remember the time you told me
i am as const as a const char star

56 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 6:24:44pm

re: #55 dog philosopher

(sings)

i remember the time you told me
i am as const as a const char star

I drew a map of Canada, (Oh Can-na-da)
with your face sketched on it twice.

57 Varek Raith  Oct 21, 2014 6:25:18pm

Youtube Video

58 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 6:27:01pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

What are you talking aboot?

Excuse me, that should be stated as:

What are you talking aboot, eh?

59 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 6:29:57pm

Again, there is a five-year-old child in the Palin Derpmobile while all this drunken craziness is going in.

60 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:30:20pm

*FACE PALM*

61 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:30:40pm
Other people interviewed by police described the Palins as instigators in a brawl that also reportedly included Track Palin and his father, Todd, fighting several men.
…………..
Sarah Palin can apparently be heard in the background during some of the interviews. At one point, she complained that her children were being “made to feel like the bad guys.”
cnn.com
62 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:31:27pm

re: #59 Kid A

Again, there is a five-year-old child in the Palin Derpmobile while all this drunken craziness is going in.

Tripp or Trigg?

63 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 6:32:06pm

re: #62 Vicious Piebola

Tripp or Trigg?

Bristol’s.

64 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:32:14pm

re: #59 Kid A

Again, there is a five-year-old child in the Palin Derpmobile while all this drunken craziness is going in.

Wasn’t that the kid crying in the beginning?

65 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:32:41pm

re: #62 Vicious Piebola

Tripp or Trigg?

Bristol’s kid, Tripp.

66 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:34:02pm

At the end…

“I don’t have to owe you fucking video because you’re a cop. That’s my private video. I know my rights”

Proves that there definitely WAS a video, it was seen by a number of people it sounds like, and then it was suppressed to protect the Palins.

Only timeeeeeeeeee will tell.

67 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 6:34:08pm

re: #60 Vicious Piebola

*FACE PALM*

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WTFITS?

68 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:35:30pm
69 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:36:39pm

re: #66 Stanley Seabola

At the end…

“I don’t have to owe you fucking video because you’re a cop. That’s my private video. I know my rights”

Proves that there definitely WAS a video, it was seen by a number of people it sounds like, and then it was suppressed to protect the Palins.

Only timeeeeeeeeee will tell.

According to CNN:

Matthew McKenna, whose birthday was the reason for the party, told police that people had gotten “drunk and stupid” — and that he had video of the altercation, but wouldn’t share it.

cnn.com

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:38:01pm

And all of this drunken palin drama is happening around midnight.
With a five-year-old in attendance.
AT MIDNIGHT.

71 klys  Oct 21, 2014 6:38:23pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to CNN:

cnn.com

In the end, honestly, I have a lot of respect for that. He could make a lot of money off of it, if he was willing to live with himself afterwards, and to resist that temptation says a lot about him.

72 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:38:30pm

“I’m fuckin’ forty, but I’m fat… nobody’s throwin’ me around that bad…”

73 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:38:30pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to CNN:

cnn.com

Bet he has a new car, or a new government contract.

74 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 6:38:59pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to CNN:

cnn.com

I wonder how much Sarah had to fork over (or what kind of veiled threats were made) to make that video disappear…

75 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:39:58pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

And all of this drunken palin drama is happening around midnight.
With a five-year-old in attendance.
AT MIDNIGHT.

HE WAS SLEEPING IN THE CAR!!!!!!!

76 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:40:34pm

re: #74 TedStriker

I wonder how much Sarah had to fork over to make that video disappear…

I would suspect it was more threats than bribery

77 theEbolafishlives  Oct 21, 2014 6:40:35pm

re: #74 TedStriker

I wonder how much Sarah had to fork over to make that video disappear…

I’m wondering if it was more of a blackmail thing. “Make that video disappear or I’ll leak to my media contacts X, Y, and Z…”

78 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:41:13pm

Bristol: “I swear to God on my Down’s syndrome brother’s life.”

79 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 6:41:25pm
80 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:41:26pm
81 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 6:42:02pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

82 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 6:43:35pm

re: #81 ausador

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He has no clue what constitutes racism. It’s as simple as that.

83 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:43:54pm

re: #78 jaunte

Bristol: “I swear to God on my Down’s syndrome brother’s life.”

At about 25:00.

84 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 6:44:26pm

re: #76 Vicious Piebola

I would suspect it was more threats than bribery

I had updated my post right when you made yours.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Sarah and Todd leaned hard on the birthday boy to make that video disappear or else the cops would be recovering what would be left of his bear-gnawed carcass out of the woods.

85 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:44:34pm

re: #78 jaunte

Bristol: “I swear to God on my Down’s syndrome brother’s life.”

Did she say that?

Holy fuck.

86 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:45:00pm

re: #85 Stanley Seabola

Yup.

87 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:45:48pm

re: #83 jaunte

At about 25:00.

Amaze.

Just your every day average Americans.

88 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 6:46:53pm

re: #78 jaunte

Bristol: “I swear to God on my Down’s syndrome brother’s life.”

Using her little brother as a prop in an argument…her mother taught her well.

/semi

Talk about low-brow and low-class.

89 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:47:01pm

Grotesque.

90 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 6:50:14pm

John McCain’s unforgivable act. He was obliged to choose a RWNJ running mate to appease the crazy GOP base, and went with a nut job woman (i.e., Sarah Palin). This is as pure an example of mindless tokenism as there has ever been in US presidential politics.

91 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 6:51:03pm

I didn’t sleep particulary well last night, so I’m outta here early.

Here’s a pic I took on a sunset sail when I was down on the Florida Keys back in April.Keys at Sunset

92 bratwurst  Oct 21, 2014 6:51:10pm

BTW: This whole “Mandela as terrorist” thing is nothing new for the right. Here is the The Heritage Foundation in 1990 declaring that Mandela was “no friend of peace or liberty”.

93 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:51:23pm

It’s a weird statement & I’ve heard it before. Every time I recoil, wondering where the hell does this sentiment come from?

On my dead Mother’s blah blah, on my father’s life blah blah.

Some sort of huge cultural importance put on words, hard for me to explain, because I’ve never understood.

94 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:51:51pm
95 klys  Oct 21, 2014 6:52:24pm

re: #93 Stanley Seabola

It’s a weird statement & I’ve heard it before. Every time I recoil, wondering where the hell does this sentiment come from?

On my dead Mother’s blah blah, on my father’s life blah blah.

Some sort of huge cultural importance put on words, hard for me to explain, because I’ve never understood.

I think it’s because it is something you hold in such high regard, to besmirch it by using it as weight for telling a lie would be bad. Or something.

Really, if someone is inclined to lie it doesn’t make them more truthful.

96 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:53:24pm

re: #92 bratwurst

BTW: This whole “Mandela as terrorist” thing is nothing new for the right. Here is the The Heritage Foundation in 1990 declaring that Mandela was “no friend of peace or liberty”.

No different than those today who think Mike Brown deserved to die.

It’s always slightly masked.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 6:53:44pm
98 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:55:00pm

re: #95 klys

I think it’s because it is something you hold in such high regard, to besmirch it by using it as weight for telling a lie would be bad. Or something.

Really, if someone is inclined to lie it doesn’t make them more truthful.

Ah, but it’s only words. Yo brotha isn’t being hurt in the least by their/your words.

Weird tribalism.

99 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:55:29pm
100 nines09  Oct 21, 2014 6:55:50pm

re: #34 Dead Tired

aboot like dis eh.

101 klys  Oct 21, 2014 6:56:01pm

re: #98 Stanley Seabola

Ah, but it’s only words. Yo brotha isn’t being hurt in the least by their/your words.

Weird tribalism.

I think the concept is more that it will hurt them if they use this “object of value” (whatever that may be to them) to support their untruth.

It is, to some extent, the same reason folks get sworn in on a religious text of some sort.

102 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 6:56:38pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

As per the DHS - 5 airports - those five - JFK, Newark, Dulles, Atlanta and Chicago were the airports that 94% of people flying to the US from Sierra Leone, Liberia, or Guinea arrive at.

That’s why they were chosen for heightened screenings.

And the restriction is to make getting the remaining 6% who might arrive elsewhere. Concentrate the efforts at those locations. It’s efficient, without unduly restricting travel and commerce.

So of course Glenn Reynolds, Chuckles, and Hoft would think that this is racist. Or something.

103 Vicious Piebola  Oct 21, 2014 6:56:55pm

re: #96 Stanley Seabola

No different than those today who think Mike Brown deserved to die.

It’s always slightly masked.

But they sure do loves them this Mandela meme:
Let me guess. Soweto blacks didn’t have to bring a certified birth certificate & 1 other “approved” document to an “approved” ID center 10 miles away

104 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:57:22pm

re: #101 klys

I think the concept is more that it will hurt them if they use this “object of value” (whatever that may be to them) to support their untruth.

It is, to some extent, the same reason folks get sworn in on a religious text of some sort.

All weird and sky-goddy.

105 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 6:58:10pm

re: #98 Stanley Seabola

The gross part is her using her little (hey look, he’s even got Down syndrome) brother as a magic totem to defend her own character.

106 klys  Oct 21, 2014 6:58:40pm

re: #105 jaunte

The gross part is her using her little (hey look, he’s even got Down syndrome) brother as a magic totem to defend her own character.

Exactly.

107 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 6:58:47pm

re: #105 jaunte

The gross part is her using her little (hey look, he’s even got Down syndrome) brother as a magic totem to defend her own character.

Her lying ass character. Under the bus, my totem!

108 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 6:59:06pm
109 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 7:01:15pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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He is a twitter terrorist. He randomly and indiscriminately tosses of his word-bombs, aiming always for the maximum effect, usually against an innocent target. Classic definition of Terrorist.

110 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 7:01:52pm

You know the scariest part of all of this, to me?
She could have been the Vice President of the United States.

111 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 7:02:18pm

re: #94 Vicious Piebola

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Well blacks (members of any group really) can be racist, but it’s an individual racism, not systemic and they don’t come from a position of power and privilege.

My experience is with first nations. Most of what I’ve seen stems from a frustration, feeling of impotence and frankly being shit on by the majority of society.

112 klys  Oct 21, 2014 7:02:29pm

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

You know the scariest part of all of this, to me?
She could have been the Vice President of the United States.

She did prompt my only donation to a candidate ever.

To her opposition.

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 7:02:58pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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He’ll just say that he stung ya again with his fabulous twitter trolling skillz.

114 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 7:04:23pm
115 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 21, 2014 7:04:35pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’ll just say that he stung ya again with his fabulous twitter trolling skillz.

Shoot at the Barn. Then draw your bull-eyes. Instant Marksman.

RBS

116 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 7:04:38pm

re: #109 RealityBasedEbola

He is a twitter terrorist. He randomly and indiscriminately tosses of his word-bombs, aiming always for the maximum effect, usually against an innocent target. Classic definition of Terrorist.

If he’s a terrorist he’s an impotent one.

117 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 7:05:12pm

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

You know the scariest part of all of this, to me?
She could have been the Vice President of the United States.

Even worse is the thought of Palin as POTUS. The fact that McCain seems like he’ll live forever as a Senator is no guarantee he would have done so well as president. Being POTUS is clearly a hard job, even for Republicans.

118 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 7:05:33pm

re: #115 RealityBasedEbola

Shoot at the Barn. Then draw your bull-eyes. Instant Marksman.

RBS

DI’s Specified Complexity.

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 7:06:44pm

While lots of people are talking about the Palin Brawl, this Palin story is also making the news rounds today:

120 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 7:07:00pm

re: #109 RealityBasedEbola

He is a twitter terrorist. He randomly and indiscriminately tosses of his word-bombs, aiming always for the maximum effect, usually against an innocent target. Classic definition of Terrorist.

CCJ is a demagogue and a rabble-rouser. He’s not a terrorist, for any definition of terrorism that has violence as an essential element.

121 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 7:07:41pm
122 Single-handed sailor  Oct 21, 2014 7:09:04pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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Boom! Headshot.

123 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 7:09:46pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

As with everything Chuckles does, it’s all about exploring different views. It’s his excuse for everything.

124 jaunte  Oct 21, 2014 7:09:52pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

It’s like he’s trying to sprint while wearing a wet sleeping bag.

125 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 7:10:17pm

Bro.

126 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 7:10:56pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Dude!

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 21, 2014 7:11:12pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Bro.

He’s being edgy.

128 Whack-A-Mole  Oct 21, 2014 7:14:55pm

Good episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D tonight. I really like that they seem to be moving the storyline along at a good clip as opposed to the snail’s pace of early last season.

129 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 7:15:09pm
130 Vogon Poetry  Oct 21, 2014 7:17:09pm

re: #128 Whack-A-Mole

Yup. They’re definitely hitting their stride.

Oh, and Adrianne Palicki showed that she probably would have been kickass as Wonder Woman (and don’t think for a moment that that rescue scene wasn’t a wink/nod to that either).

131 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 7:19:17pm
132 Belafon  Oct 21, 2014 7:27:19pm

re: #103 Vicious Piebola

How many South African states had passed laws at that time making it harder to get those IDs?

133 EPR-radar  Oct 21, 2014 7:28:56pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Perhaps the irritation will decrease by noting that Nelson Mandela will be in history books for a very long time for opposing apartheid, while CCJ will end up as forgotten as last week’s dog crap.

134 Whack-A-Mole  Oct 21, 2014 7:29:19pm

re: #130 Vogon Poetry

I think she would have pulled the role off fine but I think the concept for a Wonder Woman series would have failed.

IMO, WW suffers from the same problem as Superman: she’s too powerful. Unless you depart from the source material or limit their powers for some reason (ala Smallville, where Superman is just learning to use his powers), TV is just too small a medium for them. They need big-time, heavy hitter villains to create any real sense of tension and drama; your typical bad-guy-of-the-week isn’t going to cut it.

135 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 7:30:06pm

re: #103 Vicious Piebola

But they sure do loves them this Mandela meme:
Let me guess. Soweto blacks didn’t have to bring a certified birth certificate & 1 other “approved” document to an “approved” ID center 10 miles away

Some round trips distances probably longer but I stuck to one I could show…

136 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 7:31:56pm

re: #135 ausador

Obsession. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and by default Eric Holder.

137 TedStriker  Oct 21, 2014 7:42:03pm

re: #134 Whack-A-Mole

I think she would have pulled the role off fine but I think the concept for a Wonder Woman series would have failed.

IMO, WW suffers from the same problem as Superman: she’s too powerful. Unless you depart from the source material or limit their powers for some reason (ala Smallville, where Superman is just learning to use his powers), TV is just too small a medium for them. They need big-time, heavy hitter villains to create any real sense of tension and drama; your typical bad-guy-of-the-week isn’t going to cut it.

You know, Wonder Woman has been on TV before…

/dreams of Lynda Carter in her prime

138 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 7:43:30pm

re: #128 Whack-A-Mole

Good episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D tonight. I really like that they seem to be moving the storyline along at a good clip as opposed to the snail’s pace of early last season.

Glad to hear, I’ve been saving up eps to maybe watch eventually only if.

139 Whack-A-Mole  Oct 21, 2014 7:50:11pm

re: #137 TedStriker

Yes, but the show from the the 70’s (Lynda Carter) featured a vastly underpowered WW compared to the comic books. As I said, without limiting her powers, it would be hard to find villains to match up to her.

140 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 7:52:09pm

re: #136 Stanley Seabola

Obsession. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and by default Eric Holder.

Seriously. Black people care less about Sharpton and Jackson than these idiots and Fox News seems to.

141 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 21, 2014 7:54:48pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s “hoards”, fercrissake.

Damn illiterate kids all over my lawn.

142 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 7:55:10pm

re: #140 nearly-headless smith25

Seriously. Black people care less about Sharpton and Jackson than these idiots and Fox News seems to.

oooga booga, Lee Atwater’s legacy lives on.

143 BigPapa  Oct 21, 2014 7:56:11pm

re: #140 nearly-headless smith25

Seriously. Black people care less about Sharpton and Jackson than these idiots and Fox News seems to.

No, they love them Sharpton and Jackson. Perfect foils to vex on incessantly.

I’m not racist, but Sharpton is a race pimp and hustler.

144 OhNo!EbolaZombies!  Oct 21, 2014 7:56:38pm

re: #111 Dead Tired

Well blacks (members of any group really) can be racist, but it’s an individual racism, not systemic and they don’t come from a position of power and privilege.

My experience is with first nations. Most of what I’ve seen stems from a frustration, feeling of impotence and frankly being shit on by the majority of society.

Yep. I think my mother falls into that category. I used to say she was being prejudiced, but I’m not so sure anymore.
What I do know, is that she’s very bitter.

145 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 7:56:52pm

Damn. I ranted about the singing of God Bless America during the last baseball series. Tonight, they handed out little American Flags to everyone in the crowd. Sorry if it offends, but looked more pathetic than patriotic.

146 Dead Tired  Oct 21, 2014 8:02:13pm

re: #144 OhNo!EbolaZombies!

Yep. I think my mother falls into that category. I used to say she was being prejudiced, but I’m not so sure anymore.
What I do know, is that she’s very bitter.

Yes, that is what I see as well.

My wife has bitterness issues that I have to overlook on occasion.

147 Stanley Seabola  Oct 21, 2014 8:03:16pm

Night y’all.

148 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 8:07:24pm

Ah, I see someone cleaned the headline up at my latest page and featured it. Thanks.

Harry Shearer does a great service to historians, I can’t wait to see the rest of the episodes!

149 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 8:09:21pm

re: #144 OhNo!EbolaZombies!

Yep. I think my mother falls into that category. I used to say she was being prejudiced, but I’m not so sure anymore.
What I do know, is that she’s very bitter.

When I was trying to scrounge up a prom date (I wasn’t the kind of girl who got asked), one of the guys I asked was the only black guy in my class (out of 400 students)… he said sorry, I’d like to, but my mother won’t let me date white girls.

First I thought he was letting me down gently, trying to avoid saying he didn’t want to go out with me. Then I thought maybe his mom was a bigot. It took me ten years to realize that his mom was probably just afraid for him. (maybe for good reason; he joined the marines straight out of high school, died during basic training under very suspicious circumstances.)

150 BigPapa  Oct 21, 2014 8:12:16pm
151 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 21, 2014 8:14:55pm

re: #150 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

Whole thing feels like a cover up

152 OhNo!EbolaZombies!  Oct 21, 2014 8:16:16pm

re: #149 sagehen

It’s hard being a parent anyway, but just imagine how nerve wraking it is being a parent when your son is black…

153 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 8:18:30pm

re: #150 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

Don’t see why they keep prolonging this anymore, just have the Grand Jury come back “No Bill” and face the music already. Not sure what they hope to gain by prolonging this farce for even longer.

154 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 8:18:31pm

re: #152 OhNo!EbolaZombies!

It’s hard being a parent anyway, but just imagine how nerve wraking it is being a parent when your son is black…

In a town of 30,000 people with only 4 black families — the first of which had just moved there when I was in junior high.

155 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 8:31:32pm
156 ausador  Oct 21, 2014 8:32:22pm

re: #154 sagehen

In a town of 30,000 people with only 4 black families — the first of which had just moved there when I was in junior high.

On the other hand St. Petersburg, Fl. always had a large black population. Carefully sequestered on the South side of Central avenue, and below 49th Street.

When a black dentist finally broke the race blockade in 1968 and succeeded in buying a house north of Central avenue you’d have thought the world was going to end to listen to folks here.

In a way I guess their world did end because now there are black people scattered everywhere! Owning houses, mowing their yards, raising their kids, even walking their dogs! Oh dear Jesus please come and save us!

///////////////

157 Floral Giraffe  Oct 21, 2014 8:42:23pm

Charles, if I buy an Ipad, is there a way for you to get a cut? I know you do from Amazon….

158 Kid A  Oct 21, 2014 8:42:52pm

So Levi went off and had another child and got married. The daughter’s middle name is “Beretta.” Like the gun. Yes, really.

THANKS, JOHN!!!!

159 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 8:49:35pm

re: #157 Floral Giraffe

Only if you buy it from Amazon by clicking through from one of our affiliate links. Apple doesn’t have an affiliate program any more.

160 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 8:58:15pm

Politically, Alaska is pretty fucking crazy. Think about it. There’s a healthy contingent of hyper-religious Christian zealots and a sizable number of the most libertarian motherfuckers you’ve ever met. Not a whole lot of room for middle ground, though there are some people who have been actively trying to moderate Alaska politics, especially in the population centers.

That’s a toxic mix, and one of the reasons Sarah Palin was able to get elected governor in the first place.

161 OhNo!EbolaZombies!  Oct 21, 2014 8:59:30pm

Finally. Finally I get a little free time, and the thread is barely breathing.
Anyhow, it looks like my little guy is dysgraphic.
The problem is, I don’t think our school system makes any accommodation for that sort of learning disability, or if they even know what Dysgraphia is. As a matter of fact, last year my son’s second grade teacher informed me that handwriting isn’t really part of the curriculum anymore.

The only thing that seems to matter are the statewide tests the kids have to take twice a year, and children can be held back if they don’t pass them.

On the bright side, at least they don’t try to tell them that Mary and Joseph rode to Bethlehem on a triceratops.

162 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 9:00:39pm

The late Joe McGinniss’ last book was “The Rogue.” It’s a fascinating read into how not only how Sarah works but how Alaska politics works.

163 freetoken  Oct 21, 2014 9:05:50pm

re: #161 OhNo!EbolaZombies!

Finally. Finally I get a little free time, and the thread is barely breathing.
Anyhow, it looks like my little guy is dysgraphic.

The only thing that seems to matter are the statewide tests the kids have to take twice a year, and children can be held back if they don’t pass them.

Assembly line “education” - Henry Ford couldn’t have done better.

164 retired cynic  Oct 21, 2014 9:06:11pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

That’s the word I was waiting for!

165 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 9:08:21pm

Code question: In a page, how does one make and include a “RELATED” box with a related link at the bottom of a post?

166 freetoken  Oct 21, 2014 9:11:12pm

re: #145 nearly-headless smith25

Damn. I ranted about the singing of God Bless America during the last baseball series. Tonight, they handed out little American Flags to everyone in the crowd. Sorry if it offends, but looked more pathetic than patriotic.

“Patriotism” associated paraphernalia are a marketing gimmick, used by very many sellers of goods, including sporting events.

I’d call it sad but I don’t think this is a new phenomenon. Indeed, I think this gimmick has been around for a long time.

Perhaps baseball is a bit more democratic, or at least less militaristic, than say American football but I now, in my middle age, am becoming more offended by these sort of cheap appeals to the “us vs. them” mindset.

167 Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2014 9:21:08pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

Code question: In a page, how does one make and include a “RELATED” box with a related link at the bottom of a post?

Just put the word ‘Related’ followed by a colon, then one linefeed, then your link(s)., one per line.

168 OhNo!EbolaZombies!  Oct 21, 2014 9:23:13pm

re: #163 freetoken

Assembly line “education” - Henry Ford couldn’t have done better.

Absolutely, and if a student isn’t disruptive, and their grades are OK, then they get, well, nothing really.

169 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 9:25:53pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Just put the word ‘Related’ followed by a colon, then one linefeed, then your link(s)., one per line.

Thanks! That’s the way to do that ‘Update’ line too, I presume.

How do you make teeny tiny letters? I swear this is the last time tonight I’ll ask how to do shit. :P

170 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 21, 2014 9:26:14pm

re: #163 freetoken

Assembly line “education” - Henry Ford couldn’t have done better.

Nothing like Every Child Left Behind to make the serfs more easily led by the nose.. .

171 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Oct 21, 2014 9:29:23pm

re: #143 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

No, they love them Sharpton and Jackson. Perfect foils to vex on incessantly.

I’m not racist, but Sharpton is a race pimp and hustler.

Of course. Whenever I confront friends or family that first show blacks-are-the-real-racists narratives, I put three (or now four) fingers behind my back to click off. And the same three always come up.

1Jesse Jackson: He basically retired a decade ago
2) Al Sharpton: A charlaton for sure, but a low-level, tamed-down one in the big picture.
3) Maxine Waters: whatever, one of 435 House members. Angry black lady is enough.
That’s all they got.

172 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 9:38:19pm


“The game is afoot, Watson! The moment those three brats from Hogwarts arrive, we jump ‘em and take all their magic candy.”

173 The War TARDIS  Oct 21, 2014 9:38:43pm

re: #166 freetoken

Keith Olbermann pointed this out on his show, using an article from the American Conservative.

Youtube Video

174 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 9:54:53pm

And here’s another in a series of late night looks at why South Carolina continues its hurtling rush to the bottom of everything.

In tonight’s gubernatorial debate, the question was about whether people convicted of domestic violence should be able to have guns. Fucking Nikki Haley (who is up by double digits now in the polls—arrrggghh) insisted that people must have the right to protect their homes and families, and that victims of domestic violence should be able to turn more to churches for safe help. Oh, and just for reference, guns were used in 64 percent of all domestic violence killings of women in South Carolina over the last 10 years. What a slimy dirtball she is.

The debate had more talk about God and guns than most anything else, (with a little bit of grass thrown in for good measure by one the fringe candidates) and the loony Libertarian got New Hampshire mixed up with Patrick Henry.

But as Icky Nikki likes to spew, “It’s a great day in South Carolina.”

Spit.

175 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 10:08:02pm

re: #52 Stanley Seabola

Sarah herself insinuated the guy Bristol punched beat up his wife or girlfriend. amaze

That jumped out at me on the first listen. I mentioned earlier that you can hear the glee in her voice when she said it. What a shrew she is.

176 sagehen  Oct 21, 2014 10:10:07pm

Sons of Anarchy

Click to Reveal

Now we know how Gemma’s secret will make its way back to Jax. Doing all sorts of more damage on its way.

And more bodies. I stand by my prediction, that Wayne Unser (and maybe Wendy) will be the only original characters who make it to the end of the show.

Hmmm… and starting to watch the replay… did they handf Juice a specific gun to use in that opening scene, was it a gun that’ll be a ballistic match to something else?

177 De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2014 10:16:33pm

re: #174 BeachDem

Haley’s shining city on a hill. Dung hill that is.

178 makeitstop  Oct 21, 2014 10:17:04pm

re: #84 TedStriker

I had updated my post right when you made yours.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Sarah and Todd leaned hard on the birthday boy to make that video disappear or else the cops would be recovering what would be left of his bear-gnawed carcass out of the woods.

Remember there was a guy who did an interview with Good Morning America about the brawl. He lost his job later that same day.

The reason that the video won’t see the light of day is the same reason that nobody pressed charges. The Palins have the means and disposition to make that person’s life miserable.

179 Jenner7  Oct 21, 2014 10:27:39pm

This is exactly why they have called for a special prosecutor. PD and DA are engaging in a cover up right in front out Ferguson’s eyes and there is not a damn thing the people can do to stop it. And people wonder why they went after Gov. Nixon’s speech today about his special commission. Stop covering up people’s actions. Take responsibility, hold people accountable, and LISTEN to your people Governor. You don’t need a fucking commission, just DO YOUR JOB!

180 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 10:44:08pm

re: #178 makeitstop

One other reason to despise Sarah Palin (and John McCain for foisting that hairball on us all) is that back when people actually listened to her—OK, back when idiot Republicans listened to her—she came to SC to endorse Nikki Haley. Until then, Haley didn’t have a ghost of a chance of getting the nomination, but the media made a huge deal of Princess Dumbass endorsing her that she started rising in the polls that very day.

181 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 10:57:28pm

re: #174 BeachDem

And here’s another in a series of late night looks at why South Carolina continues its hurtling rush to the bottom of everything.

In tonight’s gubernatorial debate, the question was about whether people convicted of domestic violence should be able to have guns. Fucking Nikki Haley (who is up by double digits now in the polls—arrrggghh) insisted that people must have the right to protect their homes and families, and that victims of domestic violence should be able to turn more to churches for safe help. Oh, and just for reference, guns were used in 64 percent of all domestic violence killings of women in South Carolina over the last 10 years. What a slimy dirtball she is.

…as Icky Nikki likes to spew, “It’s a great day in South Carolina.”

Spit.

Reminds me of this old tweet of hers. She didn’t know that outside social networks abridge tweets to fit the 140 character parameter. In Nikki’s case, Instagram cut her tweet just so, and hilarity ensued.

182 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 11:01:39pm

Since Chuck C. has contradicted himself, I’ve had to update the tweet-sourced dossier on CCJ.

What I have learned about Charles C. Johnson from his tweets:

He’s an award-winning journalist.
He’s been to Indonesia.
In fact, he’s traveled to more countries than other people (although he has no idea what countries they have traveled to.)
He has bribed customs (?) officials in many countries.
He’s been building rockets since he was 6.
He likes to threaten to sue people.
He also calls the cops when people don’t like his tweets.
He graduated well from top schools.
He had an Asian girlfriend in college.
Their relationship was not well.
His Asian wife is “hot.”
She is an Indonesian Christian.
He is fat and dumpy.
He’s a ginger.
He knows virology.
He knows theology.
He knows the Bible.
He knows epidemiology.
He understands Asians (Asianology?).
He has driven a BMW.
His grandma listened to Rush Limbaugh.
He thrills to hear his name on Rush’s show.
He smokes “fine cigars.”
The Bell Curve changed his life.
He has an IQ of 150.
He speaks multiple languages.
He frequently makes typos but never deletes and corrects them.
He talks to billionaires — later on … maybe.
He publishes private information online — defending Americans!
He’s just like Nelson Mandela, but not like Malcolm X.
He’s also called Mandela a terrorist. Make of that what you will.
He’s not too good with Twitter’s Terms of Service.
He has saved thousands of lives with his tweets.
He ignores grand jury subpoenas, just because.
He believes in “natural slavery” (See Aristotle, Politics, Book 1).
He loves him some Cal Coolidge.
He believes white straight bosses only hire hot chicks, while gay bosses only hire gay workers, black bosses, black workers, etc.
He believes compassion is a vice, and says Plato said it. (Plato didn’t.)
He is going to turn all other journalists into travel agents (or some such nonsense) and change the very essence of journalism.
He has the goods to destroy the careers of Hillary Clinton, Tom Pryor, several other unnamed Senators, Congressman, etc. as soon as the timing and financial reward are right.
He used to live in West Hollywood, and from that learned that all gay men hate women (except Judy Garland and Liza Minelli, of course).
Despite living in West Hollywood, for some reason he seems to prefer Fresno.
He has vetted all potential 2016 candidates and determined that Ted Cruz is the only acceptable one.

183 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 11:08:33pm

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-bola

It’s on Twitter.

184 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 11:14:12pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

Ha. Thanks. I prob should just make it a blog or a page at my site.

185 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 11:23:59pm

re: #184 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Ha. Thanks. I prob should just make it a blog or a page at my site.

You should wait until he really runs afoul with the law. Then publish your meticulous and ugly list on your blog. Maybe wait until his third suspension from Twitter.

Aw fuck! It’s good to expose his charlatan ways, but it won’t stop him. He’s a truly awful human being.

*shudder*

186 teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2014 11:29:30pm

I am so thankful that LGF allows edits in comments for about 20 or so minutes after they’ve been posted. Mostly I correct grammar and occasionally come up with better words and phrases. Nonetheless, it is a good thing.

187 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 11:35:55pm

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Such a comprehensive account of the little turd—but wait, there’s sure to be more tomorrow. (Glad I could add a few along the way.)

188 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 11:36:11pm

OK. I paged the CCJ tweet-dossier at my website. Now I will just post the link whenever I update it.

My tweet-sourced dossier on Charles C. Johnson

189 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 11:36:57pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

Reminds me of this old tweet of hers. She didn’t know that outside social networks abridge tweets to fit the 140 character parameter. In Nikki’s case, Instagram cut her tweet just so, and hilarity ensued.

[Embedded image]

Yeah, she’s dumb and mean and dishonest as hell. Not a great way to go through life, but, because it’s South Carolina, it seems to be working out pretty well for her. Damnitall.

190 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 21, 2014 11:40:27pm

re: #187 BeachDem

Such a comprehensive account of the little turd—but wait, there’s sure to be more tomorrow. (Glad I could add a few along the way.)

He makes it so easy, by tweeting about himself incessantly. Keeping up is the hard part, especially as Twitter is blocked here in China. I have to make a concerted effort to view his tweets, and when I do, I feel as if I’ve lost a few IQ points.

191 Kragar  Oct 21, 2014 11:58:24pm

FYI: Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel is insanely fun.

192 BeachDem  Oct 21, 2014 11:58:35pm

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-bola

He makes it so easy, by tweeting about himself incessantly. Keeping up is the hard part, especially as Twitter is blocked here in China. I have to make a concerted effort to view his tweets, and when I do, I feel as if I’ve lost a few IQ points.

Not to mention the nausea his bloviating can induce. My hat’s off to you, wheat-dogghazi-bola (if there are many more “scandals” your name is going to take up two lines!

193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:15:30am

re: #145 nearly-headless smith25

Damn. I ranted about the singing of God Bless America during the last baseball series. Tonight, they handed out little American Flags to everyone in the crowd. Sorry if it offends, but looked more pathetic than patriotic.

This illustrates how people who do not understand the true meaning of concepts like patriotism, manhood or Christianity cling to petty symbols to mask their ignorance.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:19:56am

re: #186 teleskiguy

I am so thankful that LGF allows edits in comments for about 20 or so minutes after they’ve been posted. Mostly I correct grammar and occasionally come up with better words and phrases. Nonetheless, it is a good thing.

I have yet to use it to entrap people into updinging me and then going back and changing it to make them look foolish, although it is tempting.

195 teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2014 12:27:41am

Can you guess who I am?!?

196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 1:29:37am

re: #103 Vicious Piebola

But they sure do loves them this Mandela meme:
Let me guess. Soweto blacks didn’t have to bring a certified birth certificate & 1 other “approved” document to an “approved” ID center 10 miles away

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I am all in favor of issuing a free and mandatory ID card for all US citizens. And a separate one for all legal alien residents.

it would end all discussion of voter ID and ease issues of illegal immigration or employment.

Any takers out there?

197 Single-handed sailor  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:02am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It took 7 months to get my 10-year Green Card renewed. If that was expanded to include IDs for all Americans as well it would probably take them 10 years to issue that many cards. Your ID would probably expire by the time you got it.

198 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 1:43:33am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am all in favor of issuing a free and mandatory ID card for all US citizens. And a separate one for all legal alien residents.

it would end all discussion of voter ID and ease issues of illegal immigration or employment.

Any takers out there?

It would get the same response as always - total paranoid freak-out dressed in religious babble about 666 and the rest.

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 1:44:09am

re: #197 Single-handed sailor

It took 7 months to get my 10-year Green Card renewed. If that was expanded to include IDs for all Americans as well it would probably take them 10 years to issue that many cards. Your ID would probably expire by the time you got it.

There is no worry that there would ever be the political will or a majority on either Right or Left to issue all Americans with a mandatory ID card. I am just pointing out that such a practice (common in most other civilized countries) would moot the entire debate on voter ID.

200 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 2:21:56am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is no worry that there would ever be the political will or a majority on either Right or Left to issue all Americans with a mandatory ID card. I am just pointing out that such a practice (common in most other civilized countries) would moot the entire debate on voter ID.

My friends in China are surprised when I say Americans use drivers licenses as our ID cards. The national ID card here is required to buy train tickets and many online services. Fortunately for me, a foreign passport is also acceptable for tickets and most of those services, too.

201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 2:27:18am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-bola

My friends in China are surprised when I say Americans use drivers licenses as our ID cards. The national ID card here is required to buy train tickets and many online services. Fortunately for me, a foreign passport is also acceptable for tickets and most of those services, too.

In Germany, you go down to the polling place where you are registered (often a bar or restaurant in small towns without a school or town hall), present your ID card, and vote.

And the ID card is needed to register a car, open a bank account, sign a lease or an employment contract, register children for school, etc.

Americans are willing to pay a big price for their “freedom” of not having to carry or produce an ID card.

202 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 2:36:56am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t get it, either. It seems perfectly rational to have a national ID card. Instead, we have a patchwork system involving birth certificates (Certified copies only, please. Photocopies are not accepted), drivers licenses, Social Security numbers and other whatnot. Having a valid passport makes some of these identification hurdles easier, since it can replace the nonsense about getting a certified copy of one’s birth cert, but that doesn’t help the millions of Americans who don’t plan to travel abroad and have no passport.

Everybody gets a SSN now as a child for tax purposes, and the Apocalypse didn’t happen. So, why is requiring a national ID card such an effing big deal?

203 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 2:45:45am

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Everybody gets a SSN now as a child for tax purposes, and the Apocalypse didn’t happen. So, why is requiring a national ID card such an effing big deal?

There is a major psychological hurdle against instituting a Central Government Registry of Names and Addresses, although we have a de facto private Central Registry in the form of Google, Twitter and Facebook.

204 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 2:51:13am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a major psychological hurdle against instituting a Central Government Registry of Names and Addresses, although we have a de facto private Central Registry in the form of Google, Twitter and Facebook.

You forgot the IRS. And every university alumni association.

205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 2:57:56am

re: #204 wheat-dogghazi-bola

You forgot the IRS. And every university alumni association.

among others, yes.

206 fern01  Oct 22, 2014 3:42:57am

re: #150 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

First time I have EVER heard of a grand jury where anyone other than the prosecutor provides evidence. A grand jury is NOT in existence to hear from a defendant. It is supposed to look at the evidence against the defendant.

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 4:00:13am

re: #206 fern01

First time I have EVER heard of a grand jury where anyone other than the prosecutor provides evidence. A grand jury is NOT in existence to hear from a defendant. It is supposed to look at the evidence against the defendant.

The rot goes way beyond the FPD here…

208 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 4:30:36am

New hatchling troll alert: LGFBlows

209 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 4:41:25am

re: #208 Vicious Piebola

Where did it surface?

210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 4:42:40am

The Great White Privilege Whale!!!

211 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 4:57:43am

THAR SHE BLOWS!

From Hell’s heart I stab at thee!

212 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 5:04:05am

Sadly, even with the release of this embarrassing audio, the DC media will continue to fawn over Sarah Palin and pretend that she’s an actual political player.

213 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 5:05:40am

Another hatchling spotted: nothbag

214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 5:06:46am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

Sadly, even with the release of this embarrassing audio, the DC media will continue to fawn over Sarah Palin and pretend that she’s an actual political player.

She was sold to the public as “one of us”, the anti-elitist. And what is more elitist than going to a party and not engaging in a friendly punch-up?

215 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:06:59am

Team ball cap, $25.00

Tickets to Game 1 of the World Series, $1,000.

Getting caught sleeping during the game, priceless.

216 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:09:18am
217 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 5:10:41am

re: #216 darthstar

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…and these people have no problem with sullying the SYMBOL OF FREEDOM with beer?

218 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 22, 2014 5:14:07am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Was just coming here to say that. The things people do to the American flag (not sure if that’s a real one, or some kind of plastic float bed?).

219 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:14:24am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

…and these people have no problem with sullying the SYMBOL OF FREEDOM with beer?

Well, there is that. But it’s just an air mattress.

220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 5:33:03am

re: #219 darthstar

Well, there is that. But it’s just an air mattress.

So when does SYMBOL OF FREEDOM become MEANS OF FLOTATION? What if you swim on it inverted?

221 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:35:32am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So when does SYMBOL OF FREEDOM become MEANS OF FLOTATION? What if you swim on it inverted?

A rising flag lifts all butts.

222 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 5:37:18am

Morning ‘yall…

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 5:37:59am

re: #222 nearly-headless smith25

Morning ‘yall…

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when it went down it was OBAMA’S FAULT, now that it is rising, it is just FREE MARKET in action.

224 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 5:42:42am

Not sure why this shit ended up in my feed:

225 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:43:22am
226 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 5:45:10am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

Not sure why this shit ended up in my feed:

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Ha! I just posted that. Nancy Grace and Sheriff Joe…match made in heaven.

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:46:32am

re: #174 BeachDem

And here’s another in a series of late night looks at why South Carolina continues its hurtling rush to the bottom of everything.

In tonight’s gubernatorial debate, the question was about whether people convicted of domestic violence should be able to have guns. Fucking Nikki Haley (who is up by double digits now in the polls—arrrggghh) insisted that people must have the right to protect their homes and families, and that victims of domestic violence should be able to turn more to churches for safe help. Oh, and just for reference, guns were used in 64 percent of all domestic violence killings of women in South Carolina over the last 10 years. What a slimy dirtball she is.

The debate had more talk about God and guns than most anything else, (with a little bit of grass thrown in for good measure by one the fringe candidates) and the loony Libertarian got New Hampshire mixed up with Patrick Henry.

But as Icky Nikki likes to spew, “It’s a great day in South Carolina.”

Spit.

I see “too small for a republic and too big for an insane asylum” still applies.
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228 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:48:51am

re: #188 wheat-dogghazi-bola

OK. I paged the CCJ tweet-dossier at my website. Now I will just post the link whenever I update it.

My tweet-sourced dossier on Charles C. Johnson

You stalker you.
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229 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:50:19am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am all in favor of issuing a free and mandatory ID card for all US citizens. And a separate one for all legal alien residents.

it would end all discussion of voter ID and ease issues of illegal immigration or employment.

Any takers out there?

Of course not. That’s not the goal of the issue from the GOP side.

230 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 5:51:07am
231 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:52:13am

re: #206 fern01

First time I have EVER heard of a grand jury where anyone other than the prosecutor provides evidence. A grand jury is NOT in existence to hear from a defendant. It is supposed to look at the evidence against the defendant.

But there weren’t any other witnesses to the event according to the police. Or at least none they thought worth interviewing.
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232 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:57:09am

Good morning Lizards. Windy and a little damp in Philadelphia this morning with temps in the mid-50s (F).

Jackhammering at construction site has the kitties a little out of sorts. So I closed windows to abate the noise and put out a few extra treats for them before leaving for work.

Back to working on project documents for an hour or so and then attending this or that meeting for most of the day.

233 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 6:04:09am

So, of course, the day I have relatives fly in to spend a couple days visiting, I wake up to pouring rain.

234 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 6:05:16am

re: #230 nearly-headless smith25

It’s official, Ebola is no longer a newsworthy event….It’s not a screaming headline on Drudge.

235 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 6:06:50am

Blind squirrel moment:

236 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 6:06:52am

How dare President Obama create an Ebola crisis with a 21 day incubation period 34 days before an election!

Now what will we be outraged about? The DOW?

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 6:08:21am

re: #236 darthstar

How dare President Obama create an Ebola crisis with a 21 day incubation period 34 days before an election!

Now what will we be outraged about? The DOW?

The DOW will not be reported on since it is going in the wrong direction.

238 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:10:00am

re: #236 darthstar

How dare President Obama create an Ebola crisis with a 21 day incubation period 34 days before an election!

Now what will we be outraged about? The DOW?

Prediction, the new story will now be:

HOW TO TALK TO YOUR TEENS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF JOINING ISIS

239 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 6:10:30am
240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:13:03am

re: #235 Targetpractice

Blind squirrel moment:

Conservative radio host: What if the GOP sucks are no longer obstructive, ideologically blindered retrograde assholes after they win the Senate?

241 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:13:55am

re: #236 darthstar

How dare President Obama create an Ebola crisis with a 21 day incubation period 34 days before an election!

Now what will we be outraged about? The DOW?

I thought it was 42 days!

242 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 6:13:56am

re: #228 Feline Fearless Leader

You stalker you.
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Yeah, I’m dreading that knock on the door from the Chinese police. coming to take me away to the re-education camp.

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243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:14:53am

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Yeah, I’m dreading that knock on the door from the Chinese police. coming to take me away to the re-education camp electronics factory.

244 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 6:15:30am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

same difference

245 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:18:34am

re: #188 wheat-dogghazi-bola

OK. I paged the CCJ tweet-dossier at my website. Now I will just post the link whenever I update it.

My tweet-sourced dossier on Charles C. Johnson

Very nice, expect to be sued.

246 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 6:19:17am

I’ve decided that explaining statistics to a lay audience is freaking difficult. I gave it a whack on the ebola thread, but I’m not sure I did a good job.

247 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:19:29am

Just in case anyone has forgotten about ChuckC’s role model:

248 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:20:58am

THIS WILL GIVE US THE ATTENTION THAT WE NEED! THANKS CONGRESSMAN!

Edward Snowden Should Be Charged With Murder, Says Congressman Mike Rogers

huffingtonpost.co.uk

249 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 6:21:03am

re: #245 bill d

Very nice, expect to be sued.

I’d better crowdsource my defense fund then.

250 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:22:14am

re: #249 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I’d better crowdsource my defense fund then.

Hope you have better luck crowd sourcing your defense than Chuck did crowd sourcing his private ISIS fighting army.

251 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:23:12am

re: #250 bill d

Hope you have better luck crowd sourcing your defense than Chuck did crowd sourcing his private ISIS fighting army.

He offered to pay for 3/5 of a soldier.

252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:24:39am

re: #251 Vicious Piebola

He offered to pay for 3/5 of a soldier.

and retain the resale rights

253 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:28:30am

re: #251 Vicious Piebola

He offered to pay for 3/5 of a soldier.

But he was one mean SOB

254 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:33:24am

This must be part of the O’Keefe escapade

255 urbanmeemaw  Oct 22, 2014 6:33:51am

re: #208 Vicious Piebola

New hatchling troll alert: LGFBlows

Has the Etrolla Virus infected LGF? WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!

256 meteor  Oct 22, 2014 6:41:25am

re: #2 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Ta-da!

257 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 6:44:36am

Calif. prop 46-Random drug tests for doctors. Has the requisite over the top commercial-Guy in Docs attire in bar, and his beeper is going off. (beeper?!) Chugs down a double scotch and checks his device, obviously a call in to the hospital.

That level of propaganda is now totally standard operating procedure.

258 meteor  Oct 22, 2014 6:47:59am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

What the heck?

259 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:49:07am

re: #257 Rightwingconspirator

Calif. prop 46-Random drug tests for doctors. Has the requisite over the top commercial-Guy in Docs attire in bar, and his beeper is going off. (beeper?!) Chugs down a double scotch and checks his device, obviously a call in to the hospital.

That level of propaganda is now totally standard operating procedure.

Doctors receive ACA money, are therefore government contractors and subject to drug testing.

Ironclad argument if that is what you support

260 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 6:50:14am

Morning Lizards. Waiting for Bryan to start derping about this.

261 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:51:27am

re: #260 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Waiting for Bryan to start derping about this.

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262 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 6:53:07am

re: #254 Vicious Piebola

This must be part of the O’Keefe escapade

“Election Day once was sacrosanct. People got out of their chairs, donned their clothes, went to the polls, and cast their ballots in a solemn, national civic ritual.”

What, they didn’t sacrifice a goat back then? Boring!

263 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 6:53:25am

re: #260 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Waiting for Bryan to start derping about this.

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Why do I suspect that there is more to this than the headline?
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(My initial guess is that the marriage license laws in Idaho somehow involve a minister being required in some way.)

264 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 6:53:52am
265 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 6:54:07am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That, of course, is the big fear amongst the wingnuts, that next January dawns with a Republican Senate Majority, only they have to start moderating their tone simply to have any hope in 2016. Personally, I think it’s foolish, because I don’t think there’s any way that Cruz, Paul, Rubio, and the rest of the asylum are going to let Mitch actually do much besides feed their party’s id.

266 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 6:57:52am

re: #257 Rightwingconspirator

Calif. prop 46-Random drug tests for doctors. Has the requisite over the top commercial-Guy in Docs attire in bar, and his beeper is going off. (beeper?!) Chugs down a double scotch and checks his device, obviously a call in to the hospital.

That level of propaganda is now totally standard operating procedure.

I have my suspicions about the proposition, but this:

“We’re ringing the alarm bell for the public that there are quacks that like their Jack and smack, and they hurt people,” said Jamie Court, president of the advocacy group Consumer Watchdog.

puts me clear over the limit. Fuck you, Jamie Court, and the horse you rode in on.

267 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 6:58:48am

re: #263 Feline Fearless Leader

Why do I suspect that there is more to this than the headline?
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(My initial guess is that the marriage license laws in Idaho somehow involve a minister being required in some way.)

This is a major ball of wax: we need to separate the religious institution of matrimony from the civil institution of marriage. Until we do so, the religious argument does carry some weight.
A JP does not have to bless a gay union, just perform it.

268 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 6:59:44am

Gotta love that GOP outreach:

At a Wasilla High School assembly Tuesday morning, U.S. Rep. Don Young didn’t temper his notoriously abrasive personality for his young audience.

Numerous witnesses say Young, 81, acted in a disrespectful and sometimes offensive manner to some students, used profanity and started talking about bull sex when confronted with a question about same-sex marriage.

Rep. Young ‘freaked out’ before Kodiak debate, says challenger Dunbar
“We really spend a lot of time at our school talking about how we treat each other,” Wasilla Principal Amy Spargo said Tuesday afternoon. “We just don’t talk to people that way.”

More concerning, school officials say, Young made what they called hurtful and insensitive statements about suicide just days after a Wasilla student took his own life.

269 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 7:00:27am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

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Damn. He tweeted that at the same time I posted about it.

[paranoia] HE’S STALKING ME!!!11ty[/paranoia]

270 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 7:00:50am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

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Note inability to spell French words, though in Bryan’s circle of friends that’s probably a plus.

271 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 7:01:27am

re: #263 Feline Fearless Leader

Why do I suspect that there is more to this than the headline?
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(My initial guess is that the marriage license laws in Idaho somehow involve a minister being required in some way.)

Nope. A JP works just as well.

272 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 7:02:21am

re: #265 Targetpractice

That, of course, is the big fear amongst the wingnuts, that next January dawns with a Republican Senate Majority, only they have to start moderating their tone simply to have any hope in 2016. Personally, I think it’s foolish, because I don’t think there’s any way that Cruz, Paul, Rubio, and the rest of the asylum are going to let Mitch actually do much besides feed their party’s id.

It will just be bill after bill that have no chance of overriding an Obama veto from both chambers instead of just the House. Which will simply be meat from the base and hysterical claims that Obama is the Great Obstructer intent on the destruction of America.
//

And, of course, they will also strip out the Senate hold and pseudo-filibuster rules that they have been abusing for the past eight years.

273 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 7:03:33am

re: #266 iossarian

I have my suspicions about the proposition, but this:

puts me clear over the limit. Fuck you, Jamie Court, and the horse you rode in on.

The same mentality that just took pain meds away from millions of suffering people because “Dr. House” was portrayed as a Vicodin addict.

274 meteor  Oct 22, 2014 7:06:14am

Anyone else think this would make a good video game? Has someone not come out with a Palin Brawl app yet?

275 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 7:06:26am

Still no word this morning on whether a passenger from a flight via Brussels may have Ebola or not, but that’s not stopping speculation, or questioning how the situation was handled.

The hospital where the person was taken is in Newark (University Hospital). The person is still being evaluated, and test results may come back later today.

Note, the person is coming via Brussels. Not a direct flight.

The hospital is taking precautions, though some of them do seem odd - like cordoning off the parking lot and restricting access to certain streets.

So far, all of the suspected cases around NJ turned out to be false alarms - other diseases or ailments, and not Ebola.

Throughout the afternoon, the passenger’s presence at the hospital triggered unusual - but undisclosed - activity: The emergency room entrance was set off with yellow tape, a parking garage attendant wasn’t allowing cars to enter, and cars leaving the garage were barred from certain streets around the hospital, one health worker said.

“No one knows what’s really happened. No one knows if this is protocol,” said the worker, who expressed frustration about having to rely on rumors for information.

“I just want to know what’s going on. I just want to be safe,” said the worker, who asked not to be identified.

One airport worker, who also asked not to be identified, said the passenger sent to University had had Ebola-like symptoms upon arrival from Europe.

Newark is one of five airports nationwide that instituted screening of all passengers from the West African nations of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea. Earlier Tuesday, federal officials announced that all travelers from those countries would have to enter the United States through one of those five airports. The policy shift will have only minimal impact, as the five airports already handle 94 percent of West African passengers.

There have been no cases of Ebola in New Jersey, but officials continue to respond to false alarms.

A sick passenger flying to the United States from Liberia was sent to a Newark hospital earlier this month because of concern he had the Ebola virus - but within hours officials deemed the case to be a false alarm.

Just days ago, a man who recently traveled to West Africa and who was having flu-like symptoms went to the East Orange General Hospital emergency room. The patient was eventually “deemed not at risk for any major communicable diseases including Ebola,” the hospital said.

Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in Rahway and Freehold’s CentraState Medical Center have also had Ebola scares.

The lack of information means that rumor will circulate and fill the void. That’s not good at all.

If the hospital follows proper isolation/containment protocols, then even if this is a confirmed case, the odds that someone will get the disease otherwise will be slim.

As it is, one of the nurses who contracted the disease in Texas has been upgraded to good condition, and another doctor was released in Nebraska after being ruled Ebola free after coming down with the disease.

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 7:07:29am

re: #271 Bubblehead II

Nope. A JP works just as well.

Helps if I read the article. “Ministers” in question run wedding chapels that claim to be non-profit and that the city attorney claims is for-profit and thus subject to non-discrimination laws.

So essentially it’s the same issue as the bakers. Your for-profit company has to serve all clients.

277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 7:10:17am

Well, as the experts have all predicted, runaway hyperinflation in America (END the FED!!!!!) is leading to an increase in Social Security benefits next year of…..1.7%.

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278 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 7:10:20am

Reached for the gun, or tried to keep Wilson from shooting him in the first place, because why would Wilson have the gun out in the car?

The timeline still reeks, and of course with the FPD and STL county police avoiding committing any actual facts of the scene to paper, means that we’re flying blind. Yet, the witnesses all indicate that Wilson had his hands up or outstretched when the fatal shots were fired - which is a clear indication that he was no longer a threat to Wilson when Wilson fired the fatal shots.

With all the leaks, it’s looking like a waterfall, and it’s all falling in one direction - against any kind of indictment.

Funny how that works.

279 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 7:11:20am
280 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 7:11:38am
281 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 7:12:55am

“The Glenn Greenwald Story”

282 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 7:13:20am

re: #278 Vogon Poetry

Wilson was never going to be indicted. It’s been obvious since the Ferguson PD left Michael Brown’s corpse on the street.

283 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 7:13:21am

re:
#278

The next thing to leak from the prosecutor’s office will be a stunning “file photo” showing Officer Wilson’s blown eye socket.

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284 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:14:37am

re: #278 Vogon Poetry

Reached for the gun, or tried to keep Wilson from shooting him in the first place, because why would Wilson have the gun out in the car?

The timeline still reeks, and of course with the FPD and STL county police avoiding committing any actual facts of the scene to paper, means that we’re flying blind. Yet, the witnesses all indicate that Wilson had his hands up or outstretched when the fatal shots were fired - which is a clear indication that he was no longer a threat to Wilson when Wilson fired the fatal shots.

With all the leaks, it’s looking like a waterfall, and it’s all falling in one direction - against any kind of indictment.

Funny how that works.

It’s the drip-drip before the deluge. First it was Wilson’s version of events alongside the fact that there was two shots in the car. Then it was a source saying Brown “kept charging.” And now it’s saying that it looks like Brown went for the gun because the shot was close-range.

At this point, I’m expecting sometime in the next day or so, McCullough will announce that he’s failed to secure an indictment and will be closing the case with the understanding in the press that Wilson’s version of events are being accepted as the truth. The pressure will then be on the Feds to cease their investigation, not simply on Wilson but the FPD and STLCPD as a whole.

285 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 7:16:30am

re: #276 Feline Fearless Leader

Helps if I read the article. “Ministers” in question run wedding chapels that claim to be non-profit and that the city attorney claims is for-profit and thus subject to non-discrimination laws.

So essentially it’s the same issue as the bakers. Your for-profit company has to serve all clients.

If it is a non-profit organization (that receives no government funding) then it can be selective.

286 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 7:16:54am

re: #281 Vicious Piebola

“The Glenn Greenwald Story”

They don’t have to change a single line of dialogue.

287 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 7:19:35am

You know, I’ve met some very fine people from Alaska, and I wonder what they must be thinking about how this pathetic clan sullies the reputation of their state. Freakin “Jersey Shore” couldn’t have done as much damage to the image of NJ as the Palin bunch has done to The Last Frontier.

288 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 7:20:54am

re: #276 Feline Fearless Leader

Helps if I read the article. “Ministers” in question run wedding chapels that claim to be non-profit and that the city attorney claims is for-profit and thus subject to non-discrimination laws.

So essentially it’s the same issue as the bakers. Your for-profit company has to serve all clients.

Yep. They’re trying to use the old “right to refuse service” dodge cloaked in religion. The City isn’t buying it. They have also filed papers with the State to become a non-profit religious corporation after they got informed they could be fined or jailed for violating the City non-discrimination law.

289 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 7:21:15am

re: #287 Ian G.

The Real Housewives of NJ, on the other hand….

290 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 7:24:13am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If it is a non-profit organization (that receives no government funding) then it can be selective.

Yes. But the headline carries a different implication than an issue between the city and wedding chapel about whether they are for-profit or non-profit.

The headline, and forthcoming Fisher derp, are going to be about the government forcing regular churches to minister to same-sex marriages. Which has been one of their standard crap fake arguments all along.

291 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 7:24:19am

re: #43 RealityBasedEbola

Many many years ago, when I was assigned to Ft. Ord in Monterey, CA, the conference room next to our shop had a TV. At lunchtime we would all pile in there for Jerry.

Thing was, no matter how bad your day was going, no matter how messed up things were in your life, you could figure after watching Springer, you’d walk out with the attitude “Hey, my life doesn’t really suck, not like those people on TV”

Funny thing, he was, at one time, the fast rising star of the Democratic party. He was the youngest mayor of any major American city. (I believe it was Columbus, or possibly Cincincinnati, but I’m too lazy to look it up)

Arrrgh!

Oh sorry. Seeing Jerry Springer associated with Columbus caused a brief outburst.

It’s probably been cleared up, but Springer was mayor of Cincinnati.

But, his show was big in certain areas of Columbus. And that was bad enough.

Morning LGFers.

292 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 7:26:13am

re: #290 Feline Fearless Leader

Yes. But the headline carries a different implication than an issue between the city and wedding chapel about whether they are for-profit or non-profit.

The headline, and forthcoming Fisher derp, are going to be about the government forcing regular churches to minister to same-sex marriages. Which has been one of their standard crap fake arguments all along.

An Elvis-Themed, for-profit wedding chapel is a Sacred Place in the Eyes of the Lord.

/

293 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 7:27:23am
294 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 7:27:51am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

An Elvis-Themed, for-profit wedding chapel is a Sacred Place in the Eyes of the Lord.

/

In that case, The Lord needs to visit an optometrist.

RBS

295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 7:30:06am

re: #293 Lidane

BREAKING: Multiple gunshots and ‘soldier hit’ at Canada’s parliament…

Getting time to guard our Canadian Border

296 gocart mozart  Oct 22, 2014 7:33:10am
Also, what do you call a group of Palins? A derp of Palins?

A failin’ of Palins

297 BigPapa  Oct 22, 2014 7:35:48am

I got a bad feeling the Grand Jury will not come up with a case against Wilson.

How come no leaks of the other witnesses to the shooting?

This whole thing is bad craziness, it has since the moment Wilson confronted Brown.

298 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:37:59am

I can see why the “leaks” about the evidence in the Brown shooting are being staggered, namely an effort to build them up into a picture in the public’s mind that fits precisely with Wilson’s story. Blood in the vehicle? Gunpowder resident on Brown’s wound? “He went for the gun and that led to a struggle for it.” Brown “kept charging”? “He was still a threat after the struggle ended.”

Next will probably be “witness testimony” from an unnamed source that says Brown did indeed “charge.”

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 7:39:02am

re: #297 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

I got a bad feeling the Grand Jury will not come up with a case against Wilson.

How come no leaks of the other witnesses to the shooting?

This whole thing bad craziness, it has since the moment Wilson confronted Brown.

What other witnesses?
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300 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 7:39:20am

re: #297 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

McCullough did say he’d release transcripts if no indictment. Not what’s being leaked here, but still….you have to wonder why they are leaking all of this.

301 BigPapa  Oct 22, 2014 7:41:40am

I can’t imagine the Grand Jury would just take Wilson’s word for everything yet still excuse the consistent witness stories that Brown was shot running away then shot again, several times, while yielding.

302 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 7:42:05am

Gene Simmons: No High School Course Teaches You ‘How to Be Steve Doocy’

The subpar bass player who spits fake blood for a living is an “expert” on education. Amusing.

303 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:42:18am

re: #300 Jenner7

McCullough did say he’d release transcripts if no indictment. Not what’s being leaked here, but still….you have to wonder why they are leaking all of this.

Setting the public up for the announcement of a failure to indict. Get all leaks out there, circulating amongst the public, so that when the announcement comes its not a surprise to most folks. Hoping to cushion the blow and inevitable outcry by sowing seeds of doubt.

304 TedStriker  Oct 22, 2014 7:43:52am

re: #284 Targetpractice

It’s the drip-drip before the deluge. First it was Wilson’s version of events alongside the fact that there was two shots in the car. Then it was a source saying Brown “kept charging.” And now it’s saying that it looks like Brown went for the gun because the shot was close-range.

At this point, I’m expecting sometime in the next day or so, McCullough will announce that he’s failed to secure an indictment and will be closing the case with the understanding in the press that Wilson’s version of events are being accepted as the truth. The pressure will then be on the Feds to cease their investigation, not simply on Wilson but the FPD and STLCPD as a whole.

Right…and if the Feds continue with their investigation, it’s an “unwarranted vendetta”.

It’s enough to make me wanna puke.

305 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:44:29am

re: #301 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

I can’t imagine the Grand Jury would just take Wilson’s word for everything yet still excuse the consistent witness stories that Brown was shot running away then shot again, several times, while yielding.

Thing is, how many of the witnesses have actually testified before the grand jury? I rather get the impression that the totality of the witness testimony has been Johnson, and McCullough has likely presented it as “liar’s word against cop’s word.”

306 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 7:47:23am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

Gene Simmons: No High School Course Teaches You ‘How to Be Steve Doocy’

The subpar bass player who spits fake blood for a living is an “expert” on education. Amusing.

Our education system does not teach people how to process information delivered to us by Steves Doocy.

307 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 7:47:52am

re: #304 TedStriker

Right…and if the Feds continue with their investigation, it’s an “unwarranted vendetta”.

It’s enough to make me wanna puke.

you nailed it

308 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 7:47:52am

re: #301 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

I can’t imagine the Grand Jury would just take Wilson’s word for everything yet still excuse the consistent witness stories that Brown was shot running away then shot again, several times, while yielding.

Assuming those witness accounts are shown to the Grand Jury.

Wasn’t one of the initial (on on-going?) issues that the police managed to not interview a number of witnesses. Therefore, are there any official reports regarding their stories for the DA to use?

309 BigPapa  Oct 22, 2014 7:48:47am

re: #305 Targetpractice

Thing is, how many of the witnesses have actually testified before the grand jury? I rather get the impression that the totality of the witness testimony has been Johnson, and McCullough has likely presented it as “liar’s word against cop’s word.”

I’m afraid you’re right. Police did not interview witnesses for days afterward, I’m not sure that the GJ interviewed them either.

310 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 7:49:50am

re: #301 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

Got someone arguing that MO law allows the officer to use deadly force even if he feels his life was in danger, even if the person is surrendering.

I think that’s misrepresenting what the law says:

Law enforcement officer’s use of force in making an arrest.
563.046. 1. A law enforcement officer need not retreat or desist from efforts to effect the arrest, or from efforts to prevent the escape from custody, of a person he reasonably believes to have committed an offense because of resistance or threatened resistance of the arrestee. In addition to the use of physical force authorized under other sections of this chapter, he is, subject to the provisions of subsections 2 and 3, justified in the use of such physical force as he reasonably believes is immediately necessary to effect the arrest or to prevent the escape from custody.

2. The use of any physical force in making an arrest is not justified under this section unless the arrest is lawful or the law enforcement officer reasonably believes the arrest is lawful.

3. A law enforcement officer in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody is justified in using deadly force only

(1) When such is authorized under other sections of this chapter; or

(2) When he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested

(a) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony; or

(b) Is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon; or

(c) May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.

4. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of justification under this section.

Wilson’s got the burden, and he’s the only direct party to the events (everyone else is a witness). He can self-servingly state that he felt he was in danger. Therefore all actions after are justified.

The problem is that his life was no longer in danger when surrendering. He was no longer in immediate danger. Therefore, his actions were improper by operation of the statute.

Brown ran, then turned to surrender with hands up (or going up). That’s not danger. Wilson could simply have waited for backup to arrive before effectuating the arrest, but instead shot him dead with his hands up.

The autopsy results don’t actually confirm that Brown struggled for the gun - only that he was shot at close range in the hand and that GSR was evident. That’s consistent with other witnesses. Baden’s autopsy showed no signs of wounds on Brown consistent with a struggle.

We’re still left with trying to figure out why Wilson would unholster his gun in the police car in the first place, and that two of the shots were fired in the car (which explains blood splatter, the hand wound to Brown, and GSR).

Wilson would appear to have instigated the stop, escalated the events, and then fired and killed Brown even when he surrendered.

By operation of the statute, that’s not a justifiable action.

311 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 7:52:15am

A group from Ohio is coming down to do this. Apparently this is some sort of traveling road show? I wonder how somebody doing the same thing except with War Porn would go over?

312 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 7:55:51am

re: #310 Vogon Poetry

In general-There seems to be a built in escalation in practice. Deadly force can be used to stop a fleeing dangerous felon. Then one defines a scuffle with a cop as a felony and the cop with a literal black eye (or bloody nose lip or ?) surely perceives that fleeing felon as dangerous.
Unless I got this wrong?

About the GSR-You have probably fired a semi auto pistol at least somewhat like a police service gun. That’s a big volume of residue with a lot of velocity even at the chamber. Two men close, perhaps struggling but certainly a confined space… Good luck finding where the residue did not get. I have a friend in the gun forensics biz that might shed some light later when I ask him.

313 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:57:24am

re: #310 Vogon Poetry

Hence the bit in Wilson’s testimony that Brown “kept charging” at him. That he, in fear for his life after the struggle in the SUV, feared for his life and thus fired until Brown ceased moving. With no camera footage, it’s left to witnesses, and I’m sure McCullough is doing everything to either obviate their testimony or downplay it in favor of the physical evidence.

Speaking of which, I note the press is still insisting on presenting the blood evidence as “in the car,” in such a vague fashion that one might assume it was everywhere, rather than the reality that it was on the driver side door panel. And now calling upon a forensic pathologist from San Francisco for quotes saying that the autopsy evidence suggests Brown was going for the gun.

314 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 22, 2014 7:58:09am

More details from CTV, with video: Shots fired on Parliament Hill, soldier shot at National War Memorial

Looks like every cop in Canada is on the scene. War Memorial shooter is described as long-haired man with a rifle. He fired several shots there then headed for Parliament HIll so it’s likely the same guy.

315 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 8:01:08am

A poem:

Stretched out on the blacktop
Poor, dead, Michael Brown
A summer’s day, a traffic stop
Gunshots, and now the night coming down

316 BigPapa  Oct 22, 2014 8:03:53am

So Officer Wilson drives up and says ‘Get the fuck off the street’

Brown says ‘We’re just going over here, we’ll be off in a second’ or some iteration of that.

And very shortly thereafter, Brown is going for Wilson’s gun while Wilson is still in his SUV.

Quite a chain of events even before the first shot was fired.

317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 8:05:06am

re: #315 iossarian

A poem:

Stretched out on the blacktop
Poor, dead, Michael Brown
A summer’s day, a traffic stop
Gunshots, and now the night coming down

A Grand Jury Poem:

Michael Brown, he charged a cop
who felt threatened and had to stop
him cold and stand his ground
and that is the Story of Michael Brown

/

318 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 8:06:30am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A Grand Jury Poem:

Michael Brown, he charged a cop
who felt threatened and had to stop
him cold and stand his ground
and that is the Story of Michael Brown

/

Why the slash? I think that’s very apt.

319 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 8:11:20am

re: #318 iossarian

Why the slash? I think that’s very apt.

It is what the GJ is gonna sing to us, not what I would sing.

320 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 22, 2014 8:11:20am

321 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 8:12:08am

re: #316 The Big Ebola of Rocka Rolla

So Officer Wilson drives up and says ‘Get the fuck off the street’

Brown says ‘We’re just going over here, we’ll be off in a second’ or some iteration of that.

And very shortly thereafter, Brown is going for Wilson’s gun while Wilson is still in his SUV.

Quite a chain of events even before the first shot was fired.

I’m going to guess that Wilson, having had weeks to craft his story, told the GJ that he’d heard the radio report, concluded Brown was responsible for the robbery, and confronted him with the intent to arrest. Brown freaked out, pushed him back in his SUV as he tried to exit, and proceeded to attack him with the intent to prevent his arrest.

In other words, Brown went from “strong-arm robbery” to “attempted murder” without any stages in-between.

322 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:13:38am

Wingnuts are chiming in on the Ottawa shooting:
HURR HURR WHAT DID U EXPECT ITS A GUN FREE ZONE!!!!!!!

IF ONLY THEIR WAS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!1!!!!!

323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 8:13:58am

re: #321 Targetpractice

I’m going to guess that Wilson, having had weeks to craft his story,

and that is the the rot that lies at the base of this: the “procedures” they followed were all but guaranteed to hide and distort the facts associated with the incident.

324 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 8:14:21am

I’d like to also note that, although we now have the supposed M.E.’s report, we still don’t have a toxicology report. My guess is, despite their hopes, the investigators failed to find anything worse than THC in his system.

325 BigPapa  Oct 22, 2014 8:15:38am

re: #321 Targetpractice

I’m going to guess that Wilson, having had weeks to craft his story, told the GJ that he’d heard the radio report, concluded Brown was responsible for the robbery, and confronted him with the intent to arrest. Brown freaked out, pushed him back in his SUV as he tried to exit, and proceeded to attack him with the intent to prevent his arrest.

In other words, Brown went from “strong-arm robbery” to “attempted murder” without any stages in-between.

Yes, seems correct. Over a theft of Rillos, because he was a thug hopped up on the Devil Weed.

How much Racist Oxycontin do you have to take for all that to make a lick of sense?

326 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 8:15:46am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is what the GJ is gonna sing to us, not what I would sing.

I see what you mean. I think that putting it in poem form is a very effective way of exposing the horrible process that’s at work here.

327 jamesfirecat  Oct 22, 2014 8:17:28am

re: #161 OhNo!EbolaZombies!

Finally. Finally I get a little free time, and the thread is barely breathing.
Anyhow, it looks like my little guy is dysgraphic.
The problem is, I don’t think our school system makes any accommodation for that sort of learning disability, or if they even know what Dysgraphia is. As a matter of fact, last year my son’s second grade teacher informed me that handwriting isn’t really part of the curriculum anymore.

The only thing that seems to matter are the statewide tests the kids have to take twice a year, and children can be held back if they don’t pass them.

On the bright side, at least they don’t try to tell them that Mary and Joseph rode to Bethlehem on a triceratops.

Does he have trouble typing also or just handwriting?

328 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:19:25am
329 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 22, 2014 8:20:12am

Funny On Fox Nation: Vermont Governor Debate The Kookiest Loons Ever On Stage

From introductions to closing statements, the debate was filled with flamboyant, uninhabited and sometimes downright confusing statements that even brought laughter to the audience. (emphasis added)

Maybe that’s where they get that vacant stare……

330 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 8:26:06am

re: #328 Vicious Piebola

And that follows an incident on the border with Sinai - terrorists apparently fired an anti-tank weapon at an Israeli patrol inside Israel. Two soldiers were injured, and the Egyptians sent in forces to go after the terrorists.

331 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 8:27:17am

CNN reporting that Ottawa police say they are dealing with 2 or 3 shooters at Parliament Hill.

332 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:28:41am
333 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:29:14am
334 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:29:46am

re: #322 Vicious Piebola

Wingnuts are chiming in on the Ottawa shooting:
HURR HURR WHAT DID U EXPECT ITS A GUN FREE ZONE!!!!!!!

IF ONLY THEIR WAS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!1!!!!!

Of course. Thanks to everyone and their grandmother being armed to the teeth in the US, we never have mass shootings.

Wait….

335 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:31:13am

Also, very shortly, the right wing nut-o-sphere will be calling the Canadian shooters “leftists”, even if (especially if?) they take their inspiration from the same place Anders Breivik did.

336 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 8:32:09am
337 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:34:36am

Thank you guys for keeping my city and country in your thoughts and prayers.

How messed in the head do you have to be to shoot someone at a fucking WAR MEMORIAL??? I mean, come on.

As a born and bred Ottawan, my heart aches for my city.

This shooting happened in the heart of the city and the nation. The War Memorial in question is about 20 yards to the left of where I shot this photo two weeks ago:

It’s a beautiful memorial and to see this happen really makes me furious. I see they have gotten one of the shooters. I hope they get the rest of them too.

The United States isn’t the only country with deranged shooters.

338 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 8:34:53am

No indication that patient taken to Newark University Hospital has Ebola, states Gov. Christie in morning presser.

Gov. Chris Christie said today a West African airline passenger who landed at Newark Airport last night treated for possible Ebola virus symptoms is currently “asymptomatic.”

The governor, speaking at Hackensack University Medical Center, said the passenger and his wife will likely be released from University Hospital after meeting with CDC officials.

“There’s no indication at this point that he’s been infected with the virus,” Christie said.

“He’s asymptomatic,” he said. “We anticipate that the patient and his wife will be released (after meeting with health officials).”

339 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:35:30am

re: #335 Ian G.

Also, very shortly, the right wing nut-o-sphere will be calling the Canadian shooters “leftists”, even if (especially if?) they take their inspiration from the same place Anders Breivik did.

Here’s a twofer:

340 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 8:39:01am

re: #339 Vicious Piebola

Matthew Vadum. Haven’t seen that name around the ‘net in a while. A real of work, that’un.

341 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:39:21am

I knew that some fucking idiot would start ranting about Muslims. Canada has a large and generally accepted Muslim population, I don’t remember the last act of violence against a Canadian by a Muslim on Canadian soil.

Honestly right now I don’t care who did it I just want them stopped. Having said that, I doubt it’s a Muslim.

342 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 8:44:29am

O’Queef “Strikes Again”

Remember the 24 hour rule, i.e., how long it will take before he’s debunked and proven to selectively edit his video.

343 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:45:22am

re: #342 Dr. Matt

O’Queef “Strikes Again”

Remember the 24 hour rule, i.e., how long it will take before he’s debunked and proven to selectively edit his video.

Didn’t we already debunk him like, two days ago?

344 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:46:07am

Now CNN is suggesting the shooting was politically motivated. Idiots.

I wish I could get Canadian news coverage in this country.

345 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:47:50am

How soon until someone suggests this could have been avoided if Canadians were allowed to own handguns?

346 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 8:48:10am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

Now CNN is suggesting the shooting was politically motivated. Idiots.

I wish I could get Canadian news coverage in this country.

I’m watching CNN International, which is now interviewing witnesses over the phone and showing a CBC live video feed.

347 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 8:48:51am

So, the shootings in Canada are in Ottawa, but someone thinks it might have something to do with Malala Yousafzai being in Canada to receive an honorary citizenship.

That event’s in Toronto - the other side of the country.

348 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 8:48:56am

re: #343 Vicious Piebola

Didn’t we already debunk him like, two days ago?

According to the national review, O’Queef is releasing his videos today.

349 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 8:48:59am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

How soon until someone suggests this could have been avoided if Canadians were allowed to own handguns?

At least two years ago?
//

350 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 8:49:38am
351 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 8:50:06am

re: #347 Vogon Poetry

So, the shootings in Canada are in Ottawa, but someone thinks it might have something to do with Malala Yousafzai being in Canada to receive an honorary citizenship.

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That event’s in Toronto - the other side of the country.

Same province actually. But still not *that* close to each other.

(Edit: 450km by highway. So under a 5 hour drive.)

352 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:52:01am

re: #351 Feline Fearless Leader

Same province actually. But still not *that* close to each other.

Correct. Ottawa and Toronto are about a Five hour drive apart or a 45 minute plane flight.

353 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2014 8:52:49am

good morning Lizards.

354 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:53:07am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

How soon until someone suggests this could have been avoided if Canadians were allowed to own handguns?

I’m sure Michael Savage will stoop to the occasion and call Canadians a bunch of girly-men or something like that (never mind all the Canuck blood spilled at Juno Beach, among many, many other places).

355 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:53:45am

re: #351 Feline Fearless Leader

Same province actually. But still not *that* close to each other.

Yeah. Ontario is really, really big.

Also, Ottawa is a lot closer to Montreal than Toronto.

356 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 8:54:37am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

How soon until someone suggests this could have been avoided if Canadians were allowed to own handguns?

Ask and you shall receive:

A lot of morans seem to think Canada has a total ban on guns. WTF.

357 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 8:55:07am

re: #351 Feline Fearless Leader

Got Ottawa mixed up with Calgary in my head.

The distance is like claiming a shooting in NYC is result of ongoing event in either Boston or DC.

358 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:55:50am

The stupid thing is Parliament Hill usually has police officers and armed RCMP around ALL the time. You’d typically find more guns there than most other places in the country on any given day.

359 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 8:56:47am

Ebola Dog is not the Ebola Dog. Long Live the Ebola Dog!

360 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 8:57:19am

Why the fuck is CNN interviewing Peter Brooks of the Heritage Foundation, who is in Washington, about the situation in Ottawa?

361 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 8:57:20am

re: #359 bill d

Ebola Dog is not the Ebola Dog. Long Live the Ebola Dog!

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There is a large chunk of fear mongering idiots in this country who wanted that dog dead.

362 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:57:51am

Not to mention what are the odds really, of someone on the ground with a handgun being able to take out a guy on a rooftop with a high powered rifle?

363 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:58:06am

re: #360 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Why the fuck is CNN interviewing Peter Brooks of the Heritage Foundation, who is in Washington, about the situation in Ottawa?

Because it’s CNN. SATSQ

364 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 8:58:44am

re: #362 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention what are the odds really, of someone on the ground with a handgun being able to take out a guy on a rooftop with a high powered rifle?

Why are you injecting reality into wingnut fantasies about “good guys with guns”?

365 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:58:51am

re: #360 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Why the fuck is CNN interviewing Peter Brooks of the Heritage Foundation, who is in Washington, about the situation in Ottawa?

They are treating this like it’s the same as any shooting in America…except it’s not.

366 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 8:59:03am

re: #360 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Why the fuck is CNN interviewing Peter Brooks of the Heritage Foundation, who is in Washington, about the situation in Ottawa?

Because the Canadians told CNN to wait for some actual facts to emerge?

367 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 8:59:13am

re: #364 Ian G.

Why are you injecting reality into wingnut fantasies about “good guys with guns”?

I’m a buzzkill, it’s what I’m good at. :P

368 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 8:59:34am

Now they’re talking to Tom Fuentes, a “law enforcement analyst” in Washington. Like there’s no one suitable who is ACTUALLY IN OTTAWA?

369 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 8:59:52am

re: #361 bill d

There is a large chunk of fear mongering idiots in this country who wanted that dog dead.

It can now be sent to Atlanta for genetic modification to allow it to shoot Africanized Ebola bees from its mouth whenever it barks.
//

370 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 9:01:08am

re: #368 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Now they’re talking to Tom Fuentes, a “law enforcement analyst” in Washington. Like there’s no one suitable who is ACTUALLY IN OTTAWA?

See comment #366.

371 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:01:45am

re: #370 Feline Fearless Leader

Yeah, I know. I think I’ll switch to the BBC.

372 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 9:02:48am

re: #371 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Yeah, I know. I think I’ll switch to the BBC.

I hear the BBC News For Bees is all abuzz!
/ ;)

373 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:04:04am

CNN banner now reads “Numerous gunmen” involved, as if a whole miniature army had descended on Ottawa. They just showed video from inside Parliament of the shooting and it does appear there were at least 15-20 shots fired but the video does not show any shooters. Obviously it would not be difficult for one shooter to fire off that many rounds that fast.

I should also add that WHILE the “numerous gunmen” crawl was there the CNN anchor was saying as many as “2 or 3” shooters may be involved.

Yeah, that’s sure numerous isn’t it? /

374 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 9:04:06am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

How soon until someone suggests this could have been avoided if Canadians were allowed to own handguns?

Canadians are. S&W makes most of their new models with 4.25” barrels to meet the legal requirements in Canada. They don’t make it easy to buy the tiny things that sell like hotcakes here but you can buy them up there.

What Canada doesn’t have is a bunch of John Wayne wannabes.

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 9:04:35am

re: #357 Vogon Poetry

Got Ottawa mixed up with Calgary in my head.

The distance is like claiming a shooting in NYC is result of ongoing event in either Boston or DC.

Obama swings a golf club and price of gasoline goes up 2000 miles away. Same thing.
///

376 withak  Oct 22, 2014 9:06:15am

“Shooting of Michael Brown: Analysis of autopsy report suggests teen may have tried to grab officer’s gun” is now trending on Facebook.

stltoday.com

377 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:06:24am

re: #372 Feline Fearless Leader

I hear the BBC News For Bees is all abuzz!
/ ;)

The BBC is so much calmer and more factual than CNN’s frenzied reporting. In short order, the BEEb has told us the US Embassy and the U of Ottawa are in lockdown, one gunman has reportedly been shot and and another suspect is still at large. This, while CNN babbles with people in DC.

378 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 9:06:49am

re: #374 William Barnett-Lewis

Canadians are. S&W makes most of their new models with 4.25” barrels to meet the legal requirements in Canada. They don’t make it easy to buy the tiny things that sell like hotcakes here but you can buy them up there.

What Canada doesn’t have is a bunch of John Wayne wannabes.

I hesitate to ask what they have in its place. O_o

379 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 9:06:53am

Wheee!

380 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 9:07:07am

THIS FUCKING IDIOT

381 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 9:07:39am

re: #377 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The BBC is so much calmer and more factual than CNN’s frenzied reporting. In short order, the BEEb has told us the US Embassy and the U of Ottawa are in lockdown, one gunman has reportedly been shot and and another suspect is still at large. This, while CNN babbles with people in DC.

Because the BBC actually exists to disseminate useful information, CNN exists to fill airtime between commercial breaks with sensationalism.

382 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:07:47am

re: #379 Lidane

I don’t see any problems with that. No, not at all.

//

383 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 9:08:52am

re: #382 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I don’t see any problems with that. No, not at all.

//

I love that he specifically EXCLUDES Texas from his new conservative bastion of freedom because Mexicans at the border.

384 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:09:06am

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because the BBC actually exists to disseminate useful information, CNN exists to fill airtime between commercial breaks with sensationalism.

Sadly true. CNN’s news quality has deteriorated over the years.

385 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:09:33am

re: #379 Lidane

If they tried that I’d be like: “Fuck it, I’m moving back up North.”

386 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 9:09:51am

re: #379 Lidane

While speaking yesterday with Janet Mefferd about his book, “The Secessionist States of America: The Blueprint for Creating a Traditional Values Country…Now,” MacKinnon called for a movement of states, starting with South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, to establish a new country that will adhere to the Religious Right’s political agenda.

Florida voted for Obama….twice. And they are about to lose their GOP governor.

387 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 9:10:43am

re: #385 Eclectic Cyborg

If they tried that I’d be like: “Fuck it, I’m moving back up North.”

They’re not going to try it. Morans will bleat about secession until someone explains to them that secession would make their house, their retirement and their bank accounts worthless overnight.

388 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:10:44am

re: #383 Lidane

I love that he specifically EXCLUDES Texas from his new conservative bastion of freedom because Mexicans at the border.

Mexicans would never willingly enter Louisiana or Mississippi, I am sure.

Plus, Texas = ebola. They each have five letters, so no wonder.

//

389 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 9:12:09am

I love me some Wonkette.

390 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 9:12:48am

re: #387 Lidane

They’re not going to try it. Morans will bleat about secession until someone explains to them that secession would make their house, their retirement and their bank accounts worthless overnight.

It didn’t end well for them the first time they tried it.

391 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:13:23am

re: #377 wheat-dogghazi-bola

The BBC is so much calmer and more factual than CNN’s frenzied reporting. In short order, the BEEb has told us the US Embassy and the U of Ottawa are in lockdown, one gunman has reportedly been shot and and another suspect is still at large. This, while CNN babbles with people in DC.

THANK YOU!

The very first thing I heard when I switched channels: “The Canadian Conservative party has said that one of the shooters was radicalized but police haven’t confirmed that yet.”

Night and day. Night AND day.

392 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 9:13:41am

re: #379 Lidane

Wheee!

Conservative author calls for the South to secede again and form a new country named “Reagan”

Florida Man for Attorney General, Ted Nugent for Poet Laureate !!!

393 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:15:07am

It looks like one of the major staging areas is right in front of the post office shown in the photo I took above.

394 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 9:15:43am

re: #392 Decatur Deb

Florida Man for Attorney General, Ted Nugent for Poet Laureate !!!

Gohmert for Secretary of Asparagus.

395 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 9:16:41am

THIS FUCKING IDIOT:

396 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 9:17:03am

re: #394 bill d

Gohmert for Secretary of Asparagus.

He’s not eligible. Texas is being left out of the new Conservative Freedom Playland.

397 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 9:18:10am

We don’t even know what political/religious affiliation of the shooter(s) but Glenn, like #tcot automatically assumes they must be Muslim

398 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 9:18:54am

NOT The Onion

Should Florida split into 2 states?

Florida could be split in two, effectively creating the 51st state of “South Florida,” if city officials near the southern end of the (currently singular) Sunshine State had their way.

Commissioners in the city of South Miami passed a resolution calling for the “legal separation” of Florida into two states, north and south.

The reason: South Miami Vice Mayor Walter Harris says state leaders in Tallahassee isn’t doing enough to address southern Florida’s concerns about rising sea levels and climate change.

The resolution that Florida’s 24 southernmost counties secede from the Sunshine State and create a new state called South Florida. The remaining 43 counties would retain the original name “Florida.”

399 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:19:07am

re: #395 Vicious Piebola

THIS FUCKING IDIOT:

[Embedded content]

(of course this is meant towards GG)

400 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:20:03am

re: #398 Dr. Matt

Because North and South breakups always work so well…

401 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 9:20:22am

re: #392 Decatur Deb

Florida Man for Attorney General, Ted Nugent for Poet Laureate !!!

Rush Limbaugh is the head of the RFDA (Reagan Food and Drug Administration).

402 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 9:20:39am

re: #396 Lidane

He’s not eligible. Texas is being left out of the new Conservative Freedom Playland.

He could immigrate. They’ll encourage immigration, right?

403 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 9:22:16am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh is the head of the RFDA (Reagan Food and Drug Administration).

That might have an unintended good consequence or three - with no regulation who knows what might actually be in his Viagra or oxycodone?

404 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 9:22:19am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

He could immigrate. They’ll encourage immigration, right?

He’ll need papers.

405 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 9:22:48am

re: #398 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion

Should Florida split into 2 states?

True fact: Florida and Alabama have been in on-and-off negotiation to attach N. Florida to Alabama. That’s taken about a hundred years, and once reached agreement, but they could not settle on a number Alabama would have to pay Florida to take it.

en.wikipedia.org

406 Single-handed sailor  Oct 22, 2014 9:22:52am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

Now CNN is suggesting the shooting was politically motivated. Idiots.

I wish I could get Canadian news coverage in this country.

CBC feed

407 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 9:23:12am

re: #347 Vogon Poetry

So, the shootings in Canada are in Ottawa, but someone thinks it might have something to do with Malala Yousafzai being in Canada to receive an honorary citizenship.

The competition today for Jim Hoft’s championship belt is especially fierce.

408 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:23:41am

re: #406 Single-handed sailor

CBC feed

Muchos Gracias mi amigo.

409 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:24:04am

re: #407 De Kolta Chair

The competition today for Jim Hoft’s championship belt is especially fierce.

And in the Derp corner…

410 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 9:24:43am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

He could immigrate. They’ll encourage immigration, right?

Not from Texas. There are too many Mexicans here, don’tcha know.

411 Single-handed sailor  Oct 22, 2014 9:26:16am

re: #368 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Now they’re talking to Tom Fuentes, a “law enforcement analyst” in Washington. Like there’s no one suitable who is ACTUALLY IN OTTAWA?

Well, both of them are on CBC now.

412 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:27:47am

re: #411 Single-handed sailor

Well, both of them are on CBC now.

Swell.

413 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 9:29:38am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

He could immigrate. They’ll encourage immigration, right?

Gohmert is from a quarantined Ebola state, sorry.

414 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 9:29:52am

re: #406 Single-handed sailor

CBC feed

Another good way to sidestep American media - dw.de Deutsche Welt

I first got into them listening to their English shortwave broadcast while station in Germany … ;)

415 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 22, 2014 9:30:06am

While I am worried about the people of Ottawa, in my part of the world, it is after midnight and I have to go to sleep. I hope everything turns out well.

416 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 9:30:20am

Ronald Reagan co-hosting, with Art Linkletter, the 1955 televised opening of Disneyland

417 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 9:30:21am

BBC coverage still pretty good from what I see.

418 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 9:32:22am

Merry X-mas! Smoke up! Get Cancer and Heart Disease!!!

419 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2014 9:35:11am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

BBC coverage still pretty good from what I see.

Their vid of the actual shooting is pretty f’d up. Someone definitely went all out. Sigh.

420 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2014 9:35:18am

Stay Classy Republicans:

GOP Congressman tells school kids they are to blame for classmates suicide

421 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 9:35:30am

re: #416 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded image]

Ronald Reagan co-hosting, with Art Linkletter, the 1955 televised opening of Disneyland

THAT is the place the wingnuts should take over and name ‘Reagan’— Disneyland. The whole thing can be Fantasyland.

422 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 9:35:34am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

Merry X-mas! Smoke up! Get Cancer and Heart Disease!!!

[Embedded image]

Now movies do all kinds of “Product Placement”, back then they did “Movie Placement” in the product ads.

423 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2014 9:36:00am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

I used to smoke filtered chesterfields, have to say they did taste pretty good. Of course what I vape now is even better.

424 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 9:37:30am

re: #423 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I used to smoke filtered chesterfields, have to say they did taste pretty good. Of course what I vape now is even better.

Back in _those_ days, i always liked Camel straights. Got that taste from the army…

425 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 9:38:12am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

426 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 9:39:18am
427 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 9:50:38am

One more Ronny Raygun

A toxin turns President Reagan into a snake/monster in Captain America #344

428 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 10:03:44am

re: #379 Lidane

I wouldn’t mind. I just want to build an electric fence to keep out all the illegals who will be trying to cross the Potomac.

//////////////////

429 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 10:27:19am

re: #379 Lidane

Wheee!

Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch

Conservative author calls for the South to secede again and form a new country named “Reagan” bit.ly

United Southern States of Reagan?
The USSR is back!!!

430 taserian  Oct 22, 2014 10:36:47am

Can someone make ringtones out of the screeching Bristol, and make sure to “get a call” sometime whenever the Grizzled Mama Bear is around? I’d love to see her reaction…

431 BeenHereAwhile  Oct 22, 2014 11:30:55am

re: #422 RealityBasedEbola

re: #418 Dr. Matt

“Merry X-mas! Smoke up! Get Cancer and Heart Disease!!!”

[Embedded image]

Now movies do all kinds of “Product Placement”, back then they did “Movie Placement” in the product ads.

While channel surfing a while back I came across the movie “Dive Bomber,” 1941, Fred MacMurray, Errol Flynn, and directed by “Bring On The Empty Horses,” Michael Curtiz. Good movie.

IIIRC, throughout the movie, every time two characters appeared in a scene, one would offer the other a cigarette; and then they would both light up and smoke their cigarettes.


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