Chuck C. Johnson Said “PD Sources” Told Him Ebola Confirmed in Newark - but He Was Lying Again

The Ginger Avenger strikes again
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Chuck C. Johnson posing with his best friend

When the news came out last night that a Liberian passenger who landed at Newark Liberty International Airport on Tuesday afternoon had been held for evaluation of possible Ebola symptoms, self-proclaimed “award-winning journalist” Chuck C. Johnson wasted no time springing into action. The Ginger Avenger stated outright that we had a new case of Ebola in New Jersey, claimed he had police sources who told him it was confirmed, and boasted that he was showing up a journalist who accused him of fear-mongering.

So, after all that bragging and paranoia, can you guess what we’re finding out today?

The Wall Street Journal reports: Airline Passenger Taken to Newark Hospital Has Not Tested Positive for Ebola.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie also announced that the passenger was asymptomatic and would soon be released.

That’s right, folks — this charlatan was lying again, just as he’s been spreading lies and fear ever since the first case of Ebola was confirmed. He doesn’t have any “PD sources.” No New Jersey cop would lie about something like this, for no reason, to a blogger in California.

Inciting fear of infectious disease to get attention for himself and his crummy blog, and just outright lying about it is pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Chuck C. Johnson is breaking new ground in right wing dishonesty and vileness.

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242 comments
1 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 11:03:39am
2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 11:07:13am

Being Chuck C. Journalist means never having to retract a story or issue an apology.

3 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 11:07:17am

Lying Liar Lies. More Lies to Follow.

4 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 11:07:28am

F*ck that guy. I am afraid that we are making him bigger than he otherwise would be. He already has been canned from all of the wingnut welfare websites, he was too much even for them.

5 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 11:07:36am

Suspected case of Ebola = anyone who’s throwing up on a flight that may involve someone who recently came from West Africa (or puked in a car near the Pentagon or had morning sickness , etc).

Proof that the person had Ebola = unnamed sources that repeatedly feed Chuckles misleading or bogus information.

Memo to Chuckles, get new unnamed sources because your current ones are TEH SUCK.

Put more simply, Chuckles wets his pants every time someone possibly gets sick on a flight, immediately assumes that they’re infected with Ebola, and then invents sources who confirm his bias.

6 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:07:38am

Chucklehead C Johnson caught lying again and failing to correct his lies? It must be a day of the week ending in ‘-day’!!!

7 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:08:21am

He’s just emulating the example set by THE GREATEST JOURNALISTING JOURNALIST OF ALL TIMES!!!!! Glenn Greenwald.

8 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:08:51am

re: #2 The Four Footballs of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

Being Chuck C. Journalist means never having to retract a story or issue an apology.

Love Being an award-winning journalist means never having to say you’re sorry wrong.

9 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 11:08:53am

re: #4 bill d

F*ck that guy. I am afraid that we are making him bigger than he otherwise would be. He already has been canned from all of the wingnut welfare websites, he was too much even for them.

I’ve thought about that, but he’s getting picked up by other media outlets, which means his nonsense spreads far and wide - all baseless accusations and smears.

It has to be debunked and people need to be made aware that he’s nothing more than a smear merchant in a cheap suit with delusions of grandeur.

10 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 11:09:37am

11 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 11:10:51am

I just realized. Based on the symptoms, I may have had ebola almost every saturday morning my entire college experience. I’m patient Zero!

RBS

12 sagehen  Oct 22, 2014 11:11:00am

re: #9 Vogon Poetry

I’ve thought about that, but he’s getting picked up by other media outlets, which means his nonsense spreads far and wide - all baseless accusations and smears.

It has to be debunked and people need to be made aware that he’s nothing more than a smear merchant in a cheap suit with delusions of grandeur.

There’s people in the comments at a Michael Brown story in the Atlantic, today, still pushing the orbital blowout fracture; linking to Gateway Pundit and other RWblogs who got it from Gateway Pundit.

13 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 11:11:27am

re: #4 bill d

F*ck that guy. I am afraid that we are making him bigger than he otherwise would be. He already has been canned from all of the wingnut welfare websites, he was too much even for them.

Nope - he’s getting links at Drudge Report and mentions on the Rush Limbaugh show. Ignoring him is not going to work.

14 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 11:12:50am

Compulsiveliarsayswhat?

15 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 11:13:53am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

That’t right. Just the other day, Rush promoted him by mentioning Klain’s vacation pictures and claiming he’s already missed important Ebola meetings. His lies need to be exposed.

16 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 11:16:03am

Ottawa presser now live streaming.

live.reuters.com

17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 11:16:05am

re:
#15

That’t right. Just the other day, Rush promoted him by mentioning Klain’s vacation pictures and claiming he’s already missed important Ebola meetings.

OFFS

18 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:17:05am

re: #9 Vogon Poetry

Don’t knock cheap suits. I’m rocking a $75 brown pinstriped wool 70s throwback today. Made in Belgium. Frickin’ awesome man.

19 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 11:17:32am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Nope - he’s getting links at Drudge Report and mentions on the Rush Limbaugh show. Ignoring him is not going to work.

But he is about as self aware as a an anvil, no amount of hitting him over the head with the truth is going to make a difference.

It seems that in the parallel wingnut universe truth doesn’t matter as long as you piss off teh evil libs, they thrive on that and swarm to his defense. I guess I am failing to see the end game? He would be replaced by someone and no one would even notice, why not keep the most obvious dumbass on the pedestal than the replacement one which would couldn’t help but be less lame?

It’s like yelling at a chicken.

20 Mike Lamb  Oct 22, 2014 11:18:19am

What can you expect from the real life Second Hand New Correspondent:

21 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:19:16am

re: #15 Jenner7

That’t right. Just the other day, Rush promoted him by mentioning Klain’s vacation pictures and claiming he’s already missed important Ebola meetings. His lies need to be exposed.

Chucky exists to provide Rush and Drudge and such with cover, so they’re not creating the lies themselves, but rather just relaying what an ‘award-winning journalist’ says. And once the lie is out there, it has already become accepted as truth by a large section of the Right.

It takes no time at all to make up a lie that flatters the preconceptions of the Right. It takes work to debunk it, and even then they won’t believe you. It’s hard not to simply throw up one’s hands and give up. Kudos to those who keep fighting.

22 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:19:23am

re: #19 bill d

It seems that in the parallel wingnut universe truth doesn’t matter as long as you piss off teh evil libs, they thrive on that and swarm to his defense.

Understanding this is the key to coping with today’s America.

23 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 11:20:22am

re: #18 iossarian

Youtube Video

24 klys  Oct 22, 2014 11:20:29am

re: #19 bill d

But he is about as self aware as a an anvil, no amount of hitting him over the head with the truth is going to make a difference.

It seems that in the parallel wingnut universe truth doesn’t matter as long as you piss off teh evil libs, they thrive on that and swarm to his defense. I guess I am failing to see the end game? He would be replaced by someone and no one would even notice, why not keep the most obvious dumbass on the pedestal than the replacement one which would couldn’t help but be less lame?

It’s like yelling at a chicken.

I think the point is that nobody expects to change him. We just hope to have enough information out there that other people who might run into him and think he is reasonable can see the other side.

May be a lost cause on some of them. Maybe a lot of them.

Don’t mind me, I’m just having a day of “the world can all fucking burn.”

25 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 11:21:28am

re: #24 klys

I think the point is that nobody expects to change him. We just hope to have enough information out there that other people who might run into him and think he is reasonable can see the other side.

May be a lost cause on some of them. Maybe a lot of them.

Don’t mind me, I’m just having a day of “the world can all fucking burn.”

I get it, I appreciate y’all letting me rant about that stupid dumbass kid.

26 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 11:22:15am

I think we have discovered a whole new disease, of the psychiatric kind. It’s called Mebola. An ego big enough to make you lie for attention. Yup. Me-bola.

27 Floral Giraffe  Oct 22, 2014 11:22:17am

The man is just an attention whore. Facts don’t seem to matter in much of what is called “the media” today. And most of the blogosphere, is just a wasteland.
LGF being the exception!

28 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:23:11am

re: #23 Vogon Poetry

FRICKIN’ AWESOME MAN!!!

29 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:25:12am

re: #24 klys

I think the point is that nobody expects to change him. We just hope to have enough information out there that other people who might run into him and think he is reasonable can see the other side.

May be a lost cause on some of them. Maybe a lot of them.

Don’t mind me, I’m just having a day of “the world can all fucking burn.”

After a decade of ‘fighting the good fight’ on the Bowsite, I finally got the shits of it and gave up. I got emails and PMs from lurkers saying they wanted me to stay, because while they hadn’t always agreed with me, I had helped sway them on some topics.

But it’s incredibly time-consuming and emotionally wearing to keep debunking the same fucking argument every other fucking month. The final straw was the Nth iteration of “We know that cutting taxes increases tax revenues”, less than 2 weeks after I’d posted all the data disproving it.

30 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 11:26:31am

re: #18 iossarian

Don’t knock cheap suits. I’m rocking a $75 brown pinstriped wool 70s throwback today. Made in Belgium. Frickin’ awesome man.

I’m wearing a pair of nearly-new black Carhartt jeans: $5.00! But I had to go to North Carolina for the deal.

31 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:27:46am

re: #30 wrenchwitch

I’m wearing a pair of nearly-new black Carhartt jeans: $5.00! But I had to go to North Carolina for the deal.

I tell you, many of my finest clothes come from thrift stores. They probably belonged to dead men.

But this $75 suit? That was the store price, baby.

32 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 11:27:58am

re: #29 Blind Frog Ebola White

After a decade of ‘fighting the good fight’ on the Bowsite, I finally got the shits of it and gave up. I got emails and PMs from lurkers saying they wanted me to stay, because while they hadn’t always agreed with me, I had helped sway them on some topics.

But it’s incredibly time-consuming and emotionally wearing to keep debunking the same fucking argument every other fucking month. The final straw was the Nth iteration of “We know that cutting taxes increases tax revenues”, less than 2 weeks after I’d posted all the data disproving it.

Nowadays kids have it so easy. They can just post a tweet.

/

33 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 11:28:23am

OT:

Man, are they laying this on thick. I’m 100% convinced this is in advance of a non-indictment.

34 Ace-o-aces  Oct 22, 2014 11:28:48am

WTF?

35 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2014 11:29:21am
36 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 11:29:37am

re: #33 Jenner7

“Sources say.”

37 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:29:54am

re: #29 Blind Frog Ebola White

After a decade of ‘fighting the good fight’ on the Bowsite, I finally got the shits of it and gave up. I got emails and PMs from lurkers saying they wanted me to stay, because while they hadn’t always agreed with me, I had helped sway them on some topics.

But it’s incredibly time-consuming and emotionally wearing to keep debunking the same fucking argument every other fucking month. The final straw was the Nth iteration of “We know that cutting taxes increases tax revenues”, less than 2 weeks after I’d posted all the data disproving it.

There is always some dipshit on Twitter spamming the meme that MLK was a Republican. When they get pwn3d, they just spam the same fucking meme OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2014 11:32:02am

re: #37 Vicious Piebola

There is always some dipshit on Twitter spamming the meme that MLK was a Republican. When they get pwn3d, they just spam the same fucking meme OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

the old cliche that if you repeat something over and over it must be true. Of course the only person you’re convincing is yourself.

39 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:33:22am

re: #37 Vicious Piebola

There is always some dipshit on Twitter spamming the meme that MLK was a Republican. When they get pwn3d, they just spam the same fucking meme OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

One wonders whether they’re so stupid that being proved wrong doesn’t register, or they simply don’t care whether it’s true, because it works for their audience.

40 klys  Oct 22, 2014 11:34:05am

re: #29 Blind Frog Ebola White

After a decade of ‘fighting the good fight’ on the Bowsite, I finally got the shits of it and gave up. I got emails and PMs from lurkers saying they wanted me to stay, because while they hadn’t always agreed with me, I had helped sway them on some topics.

But it’s incredibly time-consuming and emotionally wearing to keep debunking the same fucking argument every other fucking month. The final straw was the Nth iteration of “We know that cutting taxes increases tax revenues”, less than 2 weeks after I’d posted all the data disproving it.

I read an article this morning about how sometimes, “choose your battles” means that you can choose to walk away - and sometimes you have to, because your mental health requires it.

I definitely recognize where right now, I have very little in the way of reserves. There are days (like today) where I think I am just done trying to engage on certain issues. My sanity takes precedence over trying to have a conversation with someone who thinks I don’t deserve the right to make decisions about my own body, for example. It has to. I can’t go back out and fight for the latter very well without the former.

41 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 11:37:56am

Another classic Chuck moment.

42 dog philosopher  Oct 22, 2014 11:38:40am

i hear they’re looking for a salad shooter in the parly mint building

43 Internet Tough Guy  Oct 22, 2014 11:39:56am

re: #35 GlutenFreeJesus

SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE CHUCK

44 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 11:40:04am
45 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:40:14am

re: #40 klys

I read an article this morning about how sometimes, “choose your battles” means that you can choose to walk away - and sometimes you have to, because your mental health requires it.

I definitely recognize where right now, I have very little in the way of reserves. There are days (like today) where I think I am just done trying to engage on certain issues. My sanity takes precedence over trying to have a conversation with someone who thinks I don’t deserve the right to make decisions about my own body, for example. It has to. I can’t go back out and fight for the latter very well without the former.

I think to a great extent what I observed during that decade was the drift of the Right into an alternative reality. By the end, debate was impossible because there was no agreed upon source of data for any discussion.

46 dog philosopher  Oct 22, 2014 11:41:33am

i heard chucky c is calling for the renewal of the ray-ban law banning alien space rays

47 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 11:42:16am

Up on the ISS:

48 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 11:44:29am
49 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 11:44:30am
50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 11:44:34am

re:
#37

There is always some dipshit on Twitter spamming the meme that MLK was a Republican.

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1950’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

51 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 11:46:15am

re: #48 Dr. Matt

If that nutbar who wants the South to secede again gets his way, Texas won’t be on that map. Too many Mexicans here. God doesn’t like that, apparently.

52 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:46:29am

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

re:
#37

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1950’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

They co-opt MLK because he is an icon. They also even co-opt Nelson Mandela for wearing a “Voter ID” T-shirt.

53 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 11:46:56am

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

In search of a commander, they see the fallacy of authority as a virtue.

54 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 11:46:59am

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

re:
#37

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1850’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

FTFY

55 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:47:04am

re: #48 Dr. Matt

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Why is Colorado on that map? I thought they were a buncha pot-smokin’ libruls.

56 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 11:47:14am

re: #48 Dr. Matt

That map gives away too much. CO and NM can be won for the good guys.

57 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 11:47:31am

Possibly a Duck Commander.

58 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:48:37am

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

re:
#37

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1950’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

Fascism tolerates contradictions, per Umberto Eco. The individual items of belief are all important as means to an end, even if they don’t fit logically together.

59 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 11:49:25am

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

re:
#37

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1950’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

Watching the slow death of the “party of Lincoln” GOP talking point is very amusing. I think it is already pretty much gone outside of Illinois.

60 Sionainn  Oct 22, 2014 11:49:58am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Nope - he’s getting links at Drudge Report and mentions on the Rush Limbaugh show. Ignoring him is not going to work.

For some reason, Yahoo news is now my home page. I noticed that they had an article that was based on GotNews and I just rolled my eyes.

61 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:50:38am

Uh yeah, because that’s THEIR JOB

62 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 11:51:05am

re: #58 iossarian

Fascism tolerates contradictions, per Umberto Eco. The individual items of belief are all important as means to an end, even if they don’t fit logically together.

Indeed. There is little doubt that the US conservative movement and the GOP are in the early stages of a transition to fascism.

63 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 11:53:25am

Now to be “fair” to ChuckC, he never outright claimed to have a “Police Department” source, just a “PD” source, so it could just be a “Pissant Douchewad”

64 Shazam  Oct 22, 2014 11:54:52am

re: #63 Vicious Piebola

Now to be “fair” to ChuckC, he never outright claimed to have a “Police Department” source, just a “PD” source, so it could just be a “Pissant Douchewad”

A “pretty dumb” source.

65 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 11:54:54am

re: #63 Vicious Piebola

Now to be “fair” to ChuckC, he never outright claimed to have a “Police Department” source, just a “PD” source, so it could just be a “Pissant Douchewad”

or maybe PD = Purely Delusional?

66 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 11:55:39am
67 iossarian  Oct 22, 2014 11:55:47am

re: #62 EPR-radar

It’s pretty amazing the extent to which this reflects the practices of today’s GOP and its voter base:

See esp. items 10 (contempt for the weak) and 12 (gun fetishism).

68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 11:55:48am

re:
#54

Thank you for catching that.

69 Sionainn  Oct 22, 2014 11:55:50am

re: #65 Blind Frog Ebola White

or maybe PD = Purely Delusional?

Bingo!

70 klys  Oct 22, 2014 11:56:33am

re: #65 Blind Frog Ebola White

or maybe PD = Purely Delusional?

Pure Derp.

71 Dead Tired  Oct 22, 2014 11:58:44am

re: #37 Vicious Piebola

There is always some dipshit on Twitter spamming the meme that MLK was a Republican. When they get pwn3d, they just spam the same fucking meme OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

That MLK was a Republican or not really doesn’t matter. What the Republicans are doing now is what is important, and much of it is racist.

72 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 11:58:49am

re: #67 iossarian

10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak. Ur-Fascism can only advocate a popular elitism. Every citizen belongs to the best people of the world, the members of the party are the best among the citizens, every citizen can (or ought to) become a member of the party. But there cannot be patricians without plebeians. In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler. Since the group is hierarchically organized (according to a military model), every subordinate leader despises his own underlings, and each of them despises his inferiors. This reinforces the sense of mass elitism.

Perfect.

73 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 12:01:31pm

Black people(or White or Hispanic, or…) are not Monolithic. Too many people in America have not yet figured that out.

74 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 12:01:45pm
75 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 12:04:33pm
76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 12:04:39pm

re:
#71

That MLK was a Republican or nor really doesn’t matter. What the Republicans are doing now is what is important, and much of it is racist.

If they really want to play this game, the question to ask is Was MLK a Conservative? Not by any stretch of the imagination, not in his day, not by any contemporary definition of “conservatism”. He was a flaming Liberal, the likes of which today’s RWNJ despises today and always have despised, and in some cases, like MLK’s, killed.

77 Timothy Watson  Oct 22, 2014 12:05:26pm

re: #35 GlutenFreeJesus

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I’m the same age as that dipshit (~11 months older), and while I can be arrogant and patronizing, I’ve never been as obnoxious as him.

78 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 12:07:20pm

re: #76 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

By current standards, the GOP would think of Reagan, Eisenhower, and Nixon as flaming liberals. That’s how far to the right the GOP has shifted - and keeps moving even further to the right.

Throw in groups like the NRA that make it all but impossible to act on public safety and health issues, and you begin to see how out of touch the GOP truly is with most Americans.

79 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:08:11pm

Stay classy, douchebros

80 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 12:10:52pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

Indeed. There is little doubt that the US conservative movement and the GOP are in the early stages of a transition to fascism.

FASCISM IS A LIBRUL IDEA! JONAH GOLDBERG SAYS SO!

81 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 12:11:25pm

re: #9 Vogon Poetry

I’ve thought about that, but he’s getting picked up by other media outlets, which means his nonsense spreads far and wide - all baseless accusations and smears.

It has to be debunked and people need to be made aware that he’s nothing more than a smear merchant in a cheap suit with delusions of grandeur.

I mentioned the same concern as you and b.d. a couple weeks ago. Charles thinks it is good to keep on him since he gets picked up by other sites, news sources and even FOX itself.

I await the day that is no longer the case and we can all ignore him.

I think that day is rapidly approaching. He is going to piss off the wrong person or group and then he will get a firm and real lesson on law suits and cease and desist notifications.

82 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 12:12:35pm

re: #79 Vicious Piebola

Stay classy, douchebros

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Wow, there sure is no shortage of obnoxious, pompous assh*les over there at The Intercept.

83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 12:13:17pm

re:
#77

A Story About Ben Bradlee That’s Not Fucking Charming

Hurr hurr we knows way more about True Journalism than Ben Bradley!!!

84 Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2014 12:13:33pm

re: #36 jaunte

That’s what wingnuts call their ass.

85 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 12:13:38pm

re: #75 Kragar

Now that’s what I’m talking about. Canadians are a proud and honorable people. We stand up for our own.

86 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:13:39pm

re: #82 bill d

Wow, there sure is no shortage of obnoxious, pompous assh*les over there at The Intercept.

It’s a requirement.

87 Skip Intro  Oct 22, 2014 12:15:07pm

re: #78 Vogon Poetry

By current standards, the GOP would think of Reagan, Eisenhower, and Nixon as flaming liberals. That’s how far to the right the GOP has shifted - and keeps moving even further to the right.

Throw in groups like the NRA that make it all but impossible to act on public safety and health issues, and you begin to see how out of touch the GOP truly is with most Americans.

Not to go Godwin here, but the Nazis and Russian Communist leaders were also out of touch with most of their vassals, and it didn’t matter at all. People are voting for these lunatics, and I see no way they don’t win big next month.

It really helps to have nationwide, 24/7 propaganda outlets “catapulting the propaganda”, as GWB liked to say, and it appears to work quite well. Add in a completely neutered media, and they can’t lose.

88 Dead Tired  Oct 22, 2014 12:15:51pm

While a group may define a voluntary member in a very narrow way a member very rarely defines a group. By saying that you are special in some way because you belong to group where a special member once belonged is childish and naive.

89 Dead Tired  Oct 22, 2014 12:17:00pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

Now that’s what I’m talking about. Canadians are a proud and honorable people. We stand up for our own.

Nah, Canadians are just Canucks.

We eat beaver and chop down trees.

90 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 12:17:15pm

Shit Louis getting bad…

91 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 12:18:15pm

re: #26 Rightwingconspirator

I think we have discovered a whole new disease, of the psychiatric kind. It’s called Mebola. An ego big enough to make you lie for attention. Yup. Me-bola.

That goes along with the diagnosis I had on Sunday for a tweet that was attached to a comment

ASSHOLA.

92 Ace-o-aces  Oct 22, 2014 12:18:50pm
93 Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2014 12:18:55pm

re: #89 Dead Tired

Nah, Canadians are just Canucks.

We eat beaver and chop down trees.

Can’t resist.

I prefer pussy, myself.

(Runs)

94 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:20:01pm

re: #51 Lidane

If that nutbar who wants the South to secede again gets his way, Texas won’t be on that map. Too many Mexicans here. God doesn’t like that, apparently.

I used to think that politics was about winning people over to your point of view and that democracy was about finding compromises and working out solutions-

But now it seems that politics is now about belittling and demonizing anyone who disagrees with you (or looks like they would if you asked them) and democracy is about seceding and founding your own independent entity where you can do everything the was you want to see it done.

95 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 12:20:20pm

re: #67 iossarian

One of the most ominous points here is #6:

6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.

That is why one of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups. In our time, when the old “proletarians” are becoming petty bourgeois (and the lumpen are largely excluded from the political scene), the fascism of tomorrow will find its audience in this new majority.

It is especially telling that the GOP is doing everything in its power to create the economic crisis that may allow fascism to rise in the US, while simultaneously stoking racial resentment.

96 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 12:21:48pm
97 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 12:24:44pm

re:
#90

St Louis County Police cancelled their public meeting. We’re currently inside stlcpd.

Somebody told them they couldn’t use Dim Jim’s file photo.

98 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 12:26:27pm

re:
#96

FLORIDA: State Has Until Friday To Oppose Motion To Lift Marriage Ban: Via Orlando’s Watermark: “The day after…

Damn activist judges are killing America, forcing laws down are throatses, here let me show you this picture of how MLK was a Republican like me!!!

99 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 12:26:37pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Another classic Chuck moment.

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Classic problem of a compulsive liar. After some time they can’t keep track of all their bullshit so they will come up with new bull that doesn’t fit previous bull.

Hopefully this is happening to Chucky C. and it will be his eventual downfall.

Hmmm. Maybe engaging him the way you are will ramp up his whopper telling and people WILL get sick of him.

Go LGF…GO!!!

100 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 12:27:50pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Classic problem of a compulsive liar. After some time they can’t keep track of all their bullshit so they will come up with new bull that doesn’t fit previous bull.

Hopefully this is happening to Chucky C. and it will be his eventual downfall.

Hmmm. Maybe engaging him the way you are will ramp up his whopper telling and people WILL get sick of him.

Go LGF…GO!!!

We’ll see. The RWNJ appetite for lies appears to be insatiable.

101 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:28:16pm

ChuckC’s role model, Glenn The Goblin King, doubles down on Teh Derps

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:28:25pm

OT, but there is still some justice somewhere:

Iraq Blackwater: US jury convicts four of 2007 killings

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:28:59pm

re: #101 Vicious Piebola

ChuckC’s role model, Glenn The Goblin King, doubles down on Teh Derps

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Willful Distortion. Great band name.

104 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:29:24pm

It was about a year ago this time that Glenn The Goblin King blocked me on Twitter for saying that he was going to dress up as a Journalist on Halloween.

105 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 12:30:27pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Republic of Jesusland: God, Guns, & Grits

Should be: Republic of Jesusland: God, Guns, & Gits

And for those unfamiliar with the word git.

git (ɡɪt)
n
1. a contemptible person, often a fool
2. a bastard

106 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:30:54pm
107 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 12:37:33pm

re: #106 Vicious Piebola

I count eight entrance wounds. Wow.

I can’t think of a reason why a cop should empty his gun into another human being and walk. It just makes no sense.

108 Khal Wimpo  Oct 22, 2014 12:40:05pm

Friend of mine used to work at Fox News. Every morning, they got the infamous memo telling them what that day’s talking points were to be, what stories to emphasize, how to spin them, and the language to use when describing counter-narratives.

Makes me wonder who Chucky C is taking his marching orders from? Or is it like Col. Kurtz in Apocalypse … that the jungle is the only one that he takes orders from anyway?

Right-wing Media Selling Nothing But Baseless Fear

109 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 12:42:38pm

re: #107 Lidane

I can think of any number of scenarios where a law enforcement officer is justified to use deadly force to kill someone who is actively engaging in a crime or is furthering a criminal act.

Even with the claim that the autopsy somehow suggests that Brown went for the gun, it doesn’t actually support that outcome - because the Baden autopsy indicated a lack of wounds consistent with a struggle. Yes, Brown was shot at close range. He could even have GSR as a result of a close range firing of the gun by Wilson, but that still doesn’t address the justification issue (though that’s what Wilson will claim - he was justified because of some threat Brown posed by walking in the street and being confronted for that act).

The problem here is that Brown showed signs of surrendering after several shots were already fired - that he was no longer a threat to Wilson and the evidence tends to support that outcome. The time line and evidence doesn’t support a justified shooting.

IMO of course.

110 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 12:43:08pm

re: #108 Khal Wimpo

Makes me wonder who Chucky C is taking his marching orders from?

Aliens from Outer Space who communicate through the fillings in his teeth.

111 Mike Lamb  Oct 22, 2014 12:43:37pm

re: #107 Lidane

I count eight entrance wounds. Wow.

I can’t think of a reason why a cop should empty his gun into another human being and walk. It just makes no sense.

Would the autopsy designate something as a “re-entry” if it was the same bullet? Just curious…

What’s happening with the grand jury is making me sick. It’s also make me more than a little bit sick that the reporters appear to be stenographers.

112 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 12:44:51pm

re: #107 Lidane

6 entrance wounds, two grazes, and at least two gunshot related defects.

113 piratedan  Oct 22, 2014 12:46:06pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

Arizona is trending blue too, it’s why there’s so much fucking money being dumped in the state for attack ads. I still have a land line. I’m getting pinged about twice a day by faux surveys and push polls regarding the upcoming election. Ten or so questions about how you feel about things and sometimes with an attack statement at the end to propagandize for the GOP, something like “what if we told you that Ron Barber has unprotected sex with endangered squirrels would that change your vote in the upcoming election?”

The GOP is scared or so damn flush with money that these fuckers will say anything that they can to get elected, excepting an actual plan on how to govern or what their agenda is…. we still have people out here putting up signs that if you vote for them, they’ll fight Obama and his federalist dictatorship as county commissioner ……

114 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 22, 2014 12:47:55pm

Buzz Aldrin, Mike Collins, and Buzz’s great-grandson Logan at MIT today:

115 Khal Wimpo  Oct 22, 2014 12:48:08pm

re: #110 Vicious Piebola

Aliens from Outer Space who communicate through the fillings in his teeth.

If only he was totally tinfoil hat. It’d be easy to dismiss such lunacy, and even Fox wouldn’t put it on the air (they got rid of Glenn Beck, after all - bad for ratings when your on-air talent is yammering like a bus-stop vagrant).

Unfortunately, he is not crazy. Just mean. In both the “cruel” and “small-minded” senses of that word.

116 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 12:49:26pm

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I used to think that politics was about winning people over to your point of view and that democracy was about finding compromises and working out solutions-

But now it seems that politics is now about belittling and demonizing anyone who disagrees with you (or looks like they would if you asked them) and democracy is about seceding and founding your own independent entity.

I blame reality TV and its beginnings with shows like Jerry Springer. Much of the media has become a mud wrastlin’ pit and the rubes just love to watch others get their faces planted in goo and screamed at by idiots.

117 BeachDem  Oct 22, 2014 12:50:51pm

Not to be pedantic (but, of course to be extremely pedantic,) Upchuck—an AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST would know that a singular “patient” cannot vomit all over “themselves.”

My guess is that Chuckles didn’t know the gender of the supposed patient, so chose to commit grammar crimes rather than admit that his story was full of gigantic holes.

118 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 12:54:26pm

re: #109 Vogon Poetry

I don’t see how these autopsy results “support” Wilson’s claim that Mike Brown attacked him. Brown could have easily gotten the same wounds if Dorian Johnson’s account of the struggle is correct.

This whole thing stinks, and now we’re getting “leaks” from a grand jury that’s supposed to be sealed. The fix is in. They’re setting things up to exonerate Darren Wilson, very obviously.

119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 12:57:10pm

re: #117 BeachDem

Not to be pedantic (but, of course to be extremely pedantic,) Upchuck—an AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST would know that a singular “patient” cannot vomit all over “themselves.”

My guess is that Chuckles didn’t know the gender of the supposed patient, so chose to commit grammar crimes rather than admit that his story was full of gigantic holes.

If the gender is not known or clear, I use “them” or “themselves” in place of the clumsy “he or she” or even clumsier “himself/herself”

But if a journalist continues to spread dangerous false rumors only to keep a profile, they can go fuck themself.

120 BeachDem  Oct 22, 2014 12:57:47pm

re: #113 piratedan

Arizona is trending blue too, it’s why there’s so much fucking money being dumped in the state for attack ads. I still have a land line. I’m getting pinged about twice a day by faux surveys and push polls regarding the upcoming election.

Tells you how cocky the Republicans are in South Carolina. I haven’t received a single call this cycle. Now I’m even sadder than before.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 12:57:49pm

In recent days, they have been a lot of comparisons made between how police reacted to protests in Ferguson and the Pumpkin Fest riots in New Hampshire.

This particular regional story got little (if any) national attention:

8 Arrested Following Post-Game Riots in Morgantown

MORGANTOWN, w.va. (AP) — Police say eight people have been arrested and more than two dozen cited following riots that erupted in Morgantown after West Virginia University’s win over Baylor.

Morgantown Police Chief Ed Preston says the charges and criminal citations included underage consumption, malicious burning, destruction of property and disorderly conduct.

Preston said Tuesday in a news release that eight police cars belonging to several law enforcement agencies were damaged by rocks, beer bottles and construction debris thrown by rioters. A fire engine and two Morgantown fire marshal vehicles also were damaged.

The university has said any student found to be involved in the incidents will face sanctions, up to and including expulsion.

Earlier story at WSAZ has more information and video.

What a huge difference compared to the other events.

122 sagehen  Oct 22, 2014 1:00:09pm

re: #50 The Fourth Football of the Apocalypse (Bulworth)

re:
#37

Why do they even want MLK to have been GOP? Their movement hates any version of social change since the 1950’s, glorifies the secessionist side of the Civil War, etc.

MLK (black people generally) had reasons to be quite fond of President Eisenhower; some of that affection spilled over onto Nixon in 1960. Plus, when all those kids got arrested in Alabama on some march and the bail was set ridiculously high… Nelson Rockefeller gave the NAACP a duffel bag full of cash to get them out. (literally. He walked over to the bank with a NYC NAACP guy, started pulling money out of his safe deposit box, asked “will this be enough?” and handed it over.)

It was the Goldwater nomination that soured them on Republicans; Nixon’s southern strategy made it permanent.

123 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 1:02:38pm

Comedy break #snort

124 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 1:03:46pm

re: #110 Vicious Piebola

Aliens from Outer Space who communicate through the fillings in his teeth.

Plan Derp From Outer Space!

125 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 1:06:17pm

EYE-BALLA CONFIRMED IN ALABAMA

Hit bad numbers on the ol’ toniometer, so I’m going in for another surgery tomorrow. Doc says it’s not catchy.

126 Bear  Oct 22, 2014 1:07:33pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Best wishes

127 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:09:36pm

re: #122 sagehen

MLK (black people generally) had reasons to be quite fond of President Eisenhower; some of that affection spilled over onto Nixon in 1960. Plus, when all those kids got arrested in Alabama on some march and the bail was set ridiculously high… Nelson Rockefeller gave the NAACP a duffel bag full of cash to get them out. (literally. He walked over to the bank with a NYC NAACP guy, started pulling money out of his safe deposit box, asked “will this be enough?” and handed it over.)

It was the Goldwater nomination that soured them on Republicans; Nixon’s southern strategy made it permanent.

I’m reading Rick Perlstein’s Nixonland right now. Fascinating. And quite frankly the more I read the more I loathe the Republican Party for running on white resentment against civil rights to get votes.

128 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:10:45pm

re: #120 BeachDem

Tells you how cocky the Republicans are in South Carolina. I haven’t received a single call this cycle. Now I’m even sadder than before.

OTOH, if I gave $5 every time I got a panicked email from the Democratic party here in Texas, I’d be down a couple of grand just this week.

129 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 1:11:07pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

EYE-BALLA CONFIRMED IN ALABAMA

Hit bad numbers on the ol’ toniometer, so I’m going in for another surgery tomorrow. Doc says it’s not catchy.

Good wishes to you DD.

130 dog philosopher  Oct 22, 2014 1:11:12pm

iirc

rev martin luther king senior was a republican, of the old school from before fdr that remembered that it was lincoln’s republican party that was founded on banning slavery

the story is that when the candidate jfk got his son the rev doctor martin luther king junior out of jail, the father called up jfk and told him that he was a republican, but “he had a big old bag of votes” which would now go to jfk - and that he would overlook the fact that jfk was a catholic

jfk got off the phone and remarked - “who knew that mlk’s father would be an anti catholic bigot?”

but then he reflected, thinking of his own father, and added “well, i guess everybody has a father…”

131 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 1:11:18pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Good luck.

132 Timothy Watson  Oct 22, 2014 1:11:51pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

In recent days, they have been a lot of comparisons made between how police reacted to protests in Ferguson and the Pumpkin Fest riots in New Hampshire.

This particular regional story got little (if any) national attention:

8 Arrested Following Post-Game Riots in Morgantown

Earlier story at WSAZ has more information and video.

What a huge difference compared to the other events.

Mountaineers rioting over a football game? Doesn’t that happen every week?

133 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:12:45pm

I am honestly annoyed just how short memories voters have. Psst guys that party you’re about to hand over the majority in the Senate to are the same sobs that were going to shutdown the government over ACA. They’re part of the same party that nominated Mr. 47%. Etc, etc. Honestly, I welcome demographic change not just for cultural reasons but for the political rude awakening the GOP’s going to get when they find out that they can’t be the party of angry white people only anymore.

134 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 1:15:51pm
135 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 1:15:55pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

EYE-BALLA CONFIRMED IN ALABAMA

Hit bad numbers on the ol’ toniometer, so I’m going in for another surgery tomorrow. Doc says it’s not catchy.

{{DD}}

Eye hate that thing. But I need to go back and have it inflicted upon me again some time.

136 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 1:16:02pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Well, who’s the prosecutor going to believe? Some cop or some guy off the street who’s been involved in other crimes? McCullough has already shown a predisposition to not prosecute on excessive force/officer-involved shootings, and Rep. Roorda has done his best to thwart law enforcement officers from being prosecuted too.

Mind you, McCullough could hand down an indictment, and then seat a jury that finds Wilson was justified (not guilty). But we aren’t likely to get to even that stage at this rate.

So, yes, this smacks of having the fix in against handing down an indictment.

137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 1:16:36pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

They will come out ahead in the midterms and decide that they have to go even more full-on conservative to win in 2016. No arguing with them, no reasoning with them, all we can do is to try to limit the amount of damage they can cause.

138 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:16:43pm

re: #130 dog philosopher

iirc

rev martin luther king senior was a republican, of the old school from before fdr that remembered that it was lincoln’s republican party that was founded on banning slavery

the story is that when the candidate jfk got his son the rev doctor martin luther king junior out of jail, the father called up jfk and told him that he was a republican, but “he had a big old bag of votes” which would now go to jfk - and that he would overlook the fact that jfk was a catholic

jfk got off the phone and remarked - “who knew that mlk’s father would be an anti catholic bigot?”

but then he reflected, thinking of his own father, and added “well, i guess everybody has a father…”

That’s what I always heard too. Anyhow, I’ve been reading Nixonland and as I said, the Republicans by and large did everything they could to court the old Dixiecrat vote. Nixon got the support of the Southern Republican delegates by kissing Thurmond’s ass and promising not to enforce civil rights laws. I’ll be further frank here and say that Reagan was closer to George Wallace on civil rights issues than he was MLK as a candidate for California’s governorship and then as governor. The right claims to venerate and honor the memory of MLK now but at the time he was their enemy and they used him as such. The whole right wing backlash of the mid 60’s has a lot of background in GOP politcos taking advantage of middle class whites being angry at the national Democratic party becoming pro civil rights.

139 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 1:17:24pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

No, there’s no political pornography there.

140 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 1:18:16pm

re: #139 Vogon Poetry

No, there’s no political pornography there.

Ann Coulter has been outgunned…

141 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:19:17pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Give her credit, she knows her audience- Men who get aroused at a woman with a gun.

142 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 1:19:49pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

The shoes look almost as lethal as the thing she’s holding. I wonder how it looked before they ‘shopped it. No doubt they took a few pounds off her backside.

143 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:20:22pm

Gotta love Levin’s strawman review too - “obliterates every argument against the second amendment.” Except Mark, no one’s argued against the second amendment but what does one realistically expect from a right wing crybaby lke himself?

144 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 22, 2014 1:20:44pm

re: #142 wrenchwitch

The shoes look almost as lethal as the thing she’s holding. I wonder how it looked before they ‘shopped it. No doubt they took a few pounds off her backside.

How could she fire the thing without falling over backwards on those heels?

145 Floral Giraffe  Oct 22, 2014 1:20:57pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

((((DD))))

146 Mike Lamb  Oct 22, 2014 1:21:44pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Worst plot ever…

147 makeitstop  Oct 22, 2014 1:21:45pm

re: #142 wrenchwitch

The shoes look almost as lethal as the thing she’s holding. I wonder how it looked before they ‘shopped it. No doubt they took a few pounds off her backside.

I was just gonna say that - the proportions from the ass down don’t look right in contrast to her upper body.

148 Floral Giraffe  Oct 22, 2014 1:21:50pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Um, it could be sleazier, but I’ll just reign in my dirty mind……

149 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 1:21:57pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Except there is no plot to disarm America. That’s why she has to misquote the founding fathers.

150 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 1:22:16pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Gotta love Levin’s strawman review too - “obliterates every argument against the second amendment.” Except Mark, no one’s argued against the second amendment but what does one realistically expect from a right wing crybaby lke himself?

151 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 1:22:51pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

152 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 1:23:16pm

re: #147 makeitstop

I was just gonna say that - the proportions from the ass down don’t look right in contrast to her upper body.

You don’t get calves like that without a bit more thigh muscle, too. It’s all out of proportion.

153 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:24:20pm

We’ve of course heard this sad song before. Clinton was going to take your guns and now Obama is. It would be funny if it weren’t just so damn sad and the fact that many gun owners buy Loesch and her allies bullshit about sensible gun policies.

154 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:24:28pm
155 Timothy Watson  Oct 22, 2014 1:25:56pm

re: #154 Lidane

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No chance there’s a London, Barcelona?

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156 Kid A  Oct 22, 2014 1:26:40pm

And the right-wing never ceases to reveal their stupidity. Mark Pryor wrote a college thesis attacking desegregation. Sounds terrible, right???!!! Of course, that’s not what it said. Link

And then the right wing runs with it, It’s all over Faux News, etc. it’s nauseating.

157 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 1:27:50pm
158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 1:27:52pm

re: #132 Timothy Watson

Mountaineers rioting over a football game? Doesn’t that happen every week?

Pretty much…but this time they beat Baylor, so they put in that special effort in their rioting.

159 Kid A  Oct 22, 2014 1:28:59pm

re: #154 Lidane

Spain? Portugal?

160 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 1:29:35pm

When I told my grandson about the Ottowa terrorism, he said, Oh no, not Canada. The world is so fucked.

Meanwhile, Canada’s not about to arm itself.

Did anyone notice that it was the sergeant-at-arms who actually was carrying and killed one of the shooters, savings lives in the process? Looks like Kevin Vickers, a former RCMP officer, knew exactly what to do.

161 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 1:29:55pm

Douchehat needs clues delivered directly to his eyeballs.

[…]

“I was not aware in advance that this event was a fundraiser and had I known, I would not have agreed to participate,” Douthat said in the email. “I was invited by an events organizing group, not by ADF directly, and I understood this to be a public conversation about religious liberty. This was my fault for not doing due diligence, and I’ll be declining the honorarium.”

New York Times editorial page editor Andrew Rosenthal did not respond to TPM’s request for comment.

ADF has a long track record of opposing LGBT equality. As documented by the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Arizona-based group even supported a law in Belize that criminalized gay sex.

Douthat appeared at the event alongside conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt and twin brothers David and Jason Benham, whose planned reality show on HGTV was pulled earlier this year over anti-gay remarks.

162 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:30:09pm
163 makeitstop  Oct 22, 2014 1:30:48pm

re: #152 wrenchwitch

You don’t get calves like that without a bit more thigh muscle, too. It’s all out of proportion.

Yes, that was my thought after I looked at the pic again. Her mid-section is entirely too scrawny for the rest of her, if that pic is to be believed.

164 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 1:31:32pm

re: #163 makeitstop

Yes, that was my thought after I looked at the pic again. Her mid-section is entirely too scrawny for the rest of her, if that pic is to be believed.

Can you say photo-shopped?

I knew you could. : )

165 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:31:57pm

re: #162 Lidane

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Can’t spell Barrasso without ass.

166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 1:32:49pm

re: #152 wrenchwitch

You don’t get calves like that without a bit more thigh muscle, too. It’s all out of proportion.

We now have photographic proof of calves like cantaloupes…

167 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 1:33:22pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Can’t spell Barrasso without ass.

Hey…another ASSHOLA!

168 HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2014 1:33:47pm

re: #156 Kid A

And the right-wing never ceases to reveal their stupidity. Mark Pryor wrote a college thesis attacking desegregation. Sounds terrible, right???!!! Of course, that’s not what it said. Link

And then the right wing runs with it, It’s all over Faux News, etc. it’s nauseating.

Pretty rich considering that the GOP frontrunner for president is a guy who is on recird of saying he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the guy every GOP presidential candidate considers an ideal USSC judge says he would have voted against Brown but yes let’s play mental gymanstics and claim it’s the left that are the real racists again huh Fox. I wish they would just be honest about what they really are.

169 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 1:34:13pm

Continuous coverage of Ottawa manhunt on CTV via MSNBC here:

nbcnews.com

170 Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2014 1:35:17pm

Loesch is just yet another pathetic and pandering conservative pretending to be a victim. No one is trying to take away anyone’s firearms. Common-sense firearm laws is not confiscation or banishment. Firearm ownership and places one can carry is even less restrictive today than any other time over the last 20 years. Quit whining, you idiots.

171 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 1:36:20pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Before the civil rights alignment, the GOP was a party that one could have ordinary political disagreements with.

Since then, it’s pretty much been good vs. evil. This business of affirmatively going after the votes of white racists who resented the civil rights legislation is flat-out evil, and has led to innumerable other bits of rot in the Republican party.

172 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 1:37:47pm

Gunman kills at least the same number of people in Houston hospital as Ebola has in US.

173 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:02pm

The terrorism in Ottawa has shoved Ebola out of the headlines.

Even the Republicans can’t manipulate world events, try as they might.

Two people were killed in Canada in this event; only 1 person from Liberia died in the US from Ebola.

Guns: far more deadly on the North American continent than Ebola. How many other people will die from gun related incidents today?

174 darthstar  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:03pm

re: #123 Dr. Matt

Comedy break #snort

Don’t do this. You’ll never see that spoon again.

175 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:31pm

Carpool lane?

176 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:39pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

You mean they haven’t blamed Obama for this yet?

177 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 1:38:50pm

re: #154 Lidane

If one travels that route from west to east will they end up at a Barcelona Halcones game?

178 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 1:39:02pm

re: #175 bill d

Carpool lane?

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That made me lol.

179 BeachDem  Oct 22, 2014 1:40:44pm

re: #128 Lidane

OTOH, if I gave $5 every time I got a panicked email from the Democratic party here in Texas, I’d be down a couple of grand just this week.

I not only get hourly panicked emails from local Democrats, I also get them from candidates in other states—some of whom I’ve never even heard of. Let’s see—they want my money in Wisconsin (who is Sue Happ and what is she running for?), Texas, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Georgia; not to mention DCCC, DNC, GreenmountainPAC (?), and many others. Some days I get upwards of 20 per hour.

180 blueraven  Oct 22, 2014 1:41:35pm

Canada officials identify shooter as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.

181 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 1:41:59pm

re: #175 bill d

I thought for a second that was George Zimmerman.

182 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 1:43:30pm

re: #181 jaunte

I thought for a second that was George Zimmerman.

So did I.

183 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 1:43:59pm
184 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 1:44:02pm

re: #162 Lidane

Jeez, Senator, what is the administration supposed to do? Oh I forgot: IMPEACH!!!

185 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 1:44:56pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

Or a Black Harvard professor. Or any profession, really.

186 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 1:45:23pm
187 leftynyc  Oct 22, 2014 1:46:08pm

re: #172 Vogon Poetry

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Gunman kills at least the same number of people in Houston hospital as Ebola has in US.

Trying to call me cousin who is a nurse in Houston. Have no idea what hospital she works in.

188 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:46:30pm

re: #179 BeachDem

I not only get hourly panicked emails from local Democrats, I also get them from candidates in other states—some of whom I’ve never even heard of. Let’s see—they want my money in Wisconsin (who is Sue Happ and what is she running for?), Texas, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Georgia; not to mention DCCC, DNC, GreenmountainPAC (?), and many others. Some days I get upwards of 20 per hour.

I have never been more grateful for Gmail splitting my email inbox up into Primary, Social, and Promotions. All the panicked emails begging for cash go into my Promotions folder. Makes it easy to lump them all together and flag them as spam. Heh.

189 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 1:46:52pm

re: #180 blueraven

Canada officials identify shooter as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.

Five Facts about Michael Zehaf-Bibeau (yeah, It’s Heavy, but what the hell…)

heavy.com

190 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 1:47:26pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

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Remember, Michael Brown was armed and dangerous just for being 6’4”, 300 lbs and black, whereas by being white, Dana Loesch isn’t armed and dangerous even with a black rifle with a sniper scope and an extended clip.

191 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:48:37pm

re: #190 Blind Frog Ebola White

Remember, Michael Brown was armed and dangerous just for being 6’4”, 300 lbs and black, whereas by being white, Dana Loesch isn’t armed and dangerous even with a black rifle with a sniper scope and an extended clip.

It’s OK if you’re a Republican. And white.

192 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 1:49:28pm
193 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:50:30pm

re: #192 Jenner7

Wouldn’t that invalidate the Grand Jury?

194 Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2014 1:51:22pm

re: #193 Lidane

Wouldn’t that invalidate the Grand Jury?

I would think so, but I’m not a specialist in such matters.

195 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 1:51:43pm

re: #193 Lidane

You’d think. Read Shaun’s timeline, it’s fascinating.

196 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 1:51:44pm

Too bad Rick Perry didn’t think to get Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick the Texas drought.

197 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 1:54:11pm

re: #196 jaunte

And this asshole is likely going to be our next Governor. WTF.

198 De Kolta Chair  Oct 22, 2014 1:55:13pm

Grand Jury Leak Redux or WTF Is Going On Over There?

WSJ — Prosecutors Look Into Possible Leak From Ferguson Grand Juror

Tweet Purports to Reveal Detail of Grand Jury’s Review of Michael Brown Shooting

Dateline: OCTOBER 2, 2014

199 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 1:56:45pm

re: #142 wrenchwitch

The shoes look almost as lethal as the thing she’s holding. I wonder how it looked before they ‘shopped it. No doubt they took a few pounds off her backside.

I’ve seen people with scoliosis have straighter backs. Poor posture from hauling around that heavy gun while wearing inappropriate footgear?

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 2:00:02pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

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Hell, they freak out over a black person merely holding a sign that says “Black Lives Matter”.

201 Wile E. Wonka  Oct 22, 2014 2:00:04pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

I can’t help but think that when he says “PD sources” the “PD” stands for Pure Dipshit.

(I can’t believe I delurked for a one-liner, but there ya go. Still reading, still basically a newbie, just can’t contribute much with a baby and a toddler to wrangle, heh. I hope the occasional potshot isn’t too annoying.)

202 Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 22, 2014 2:00:15pm

re: #196 jaunte

Chuck Norris is still a thing? Why not campaign with Fred “Reverse Mortgage” Thompson? About as exciting.

203 BeachDem  Oct 22, 2014 2:00:49pm

re: #192 Jenner7

Uh oh—Upchuck will be distraught to see that Shaun King has 83k followers. I believe he was comparing twitterdick sizes with King recently. I guess Chuckles will have to start calling Shaun honey and dear and bro to maintain his superiority. /

204 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:01:25pm

re: #201 Wile E. Wonka

I can’t help but think that when he says “PD sources” the “PD” stands for Pure Dipshit.

(I can’t believe I delurked for a one-liner, but there ya go. Still reading, still basically a newbie, just can’t contribute much with a baby and a toddler to wrangle, heh. I hope the occasional potshot isn’t too annoying.)

Delurk as often as the munchkins will allow. : )

205 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 2:01:42pm

I know how this kitty feels. Today has been ENDLESS.

206 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 2:04:08pm

If the DOJ is leaking, I just can’t even…..

Holder has some explaining to do…

207 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 2:04:40pm

re: #195 Jenner7

You’d think. Read Shaun’s timeline, it’s fascinating.

Wow. It is such a horrible shitshow.

Hope he busts the leaker very very publicly.

208 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 2:06:14pm

re: #206 Jenner7

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If the DOJ is leaking, I just can’t even…..

Holder has some explaining to do…

Maybe someone local who got access to the DOJ info?

209 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 2:10:36pm

re: #207 Stanley Seabola

Wow. It is such a horrible shitshow.

Hope he busts the leaker very very publicly.

It’s been a shitshow ever since Michael Brown’s corpse was left in the streets.

For all of our technological progress in the last 20 years, there are still pockets of America that think it’s 1860.

210 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 2:10:39pm

Was there only one shooter in Ottawa?

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 2:15:10pm

So…what sleeziness is UpChuck up to now?
The mugshot he’s looking for is related to something that happened 8 years ago.

212 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 2:17:57pm

re: #196 jaunte

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Too bad Rick Perry didn’t think to get Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick the Texas drought.

Today I beefed up my border security plan with Chuck Norris in San Antonio.

The border is 150 miles from San Antonio. That’s a lot of beef.

213 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 2:20:25pm

re: #212 wrenchwitch

The border is 150 miles from San Antonio. That’s a lot of beef.

Having a border security event in San Antonio is like having a sheriff from Midland babble about the day to day conditions on the border.

214 TedStriker  Oct 22, 2014 2:24:50pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

Should be: Republic of Jesusland: God, Guns, & Gits

And for those unfamiliar with the word git.

git (ɡɪt)
n
1. a contemptible person, often a fool
2. a bastard

As in “Randy Scouse Git”…

Youtube Video

215 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 2:25:23pm

So Chuck Norris is now a border control expert? He’s not even a good actor.

216 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 2:26:53pm

GOHMERT!

217 jaunte  Oct 22, 2014 2:28:13pm

re: #216 Lidane

MASSAGE IS THE DEVIL’S PLAYGROUND!!!

218 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:28:55pm

Wow, a piss poor week in the medical dept for me.

Well, I found out very clearly how medicine (and Medicare) has become a money game for the medical establishment lately when I was referred to three specialists. The second one I saw Mon and she butchered me, taking tissue samples for biopsy from a very, very sensitive area and still causing pain (it never happened the two times I had it done before). The first referral, to a throat dr, turned out to be a nothing-burger, after a barium test. I cancelled the colonoscopy and endoscope which were also recommended and fired all of them. If my biopsy comes back positive, I’m going to find another gyn, a surgical specialist, not some glorified midwife (doctors around here, no matter what their gender, prefer to deliver babies, nothing else). And bill, bill, bill, for the corporation for which they work. And Medicare, of course, doesn’t cover everything and pays only 80% on those procedures it approves.

Why should I submit to procedures which will result in having to undergo anesthesia 2 times within a very short time frame?

What has happened to diagnostics? It’s all technology, multiple visits and $$$ I don’t have. The drs even want you not to bother them but to go online to check your “record”. So much so that their staff doesn’t return calls and puts you on “hold” without even telling you, in the middle of explaining why you called in the first place. So I fired them. I may be at the mercy of my own body, but I won’t be at theirs.

219 Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2014 2:32:09pm

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

OT, but there is still some justice somewhere:

Iraq Blackwater: US jury convicts four of 2007 killings

An excellent example of why mercenaries are a really bad idea.

Unless you’re a douchebag who doesn’t mind ripping off the American taxpayer while indulging in unrestrained violence.

220 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 2:32:59pm
221 Skip Intro  Oct 22, 2014 2:33:16pm

re: #216 Lidane

GOHMERT!

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Yeah, Louie has no idea what he’s doing, but he’ll be re-elected for life and will probably be offered a Federal Judicial position under future President Wingnut.

222 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:33:43pm

Ottawa Police tweet that ‘to date, there is no confirmation of a 2nd suspect’ in shooting; ‘we continue to search for any additional possible suspects’ - @OttawaPolice
see original on twitter.com

223 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 2:33:52pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

So…what sleeziness is UpChuck up to now?
The mugshot he’s looking for is related to something that happened 8 years ago.

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I’ve been doing some checking around and have to say that I am completely puzzled as to what CCJ is up to with this.
Basic things:
Brown is a “demoncrat” (as per his Republican opponent’s oh-so-civil-and-adult FB page).
Brown supports medical marijuana.
Brown had a DUI arrest in 2005, but had the charges dismissed in 2006.

I’m just happy that I don’t live in Boone County, WV, and have to deal with that particular mudslinging campaign for state delegate.

224 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 2:35:33pm

re: #218 Justanotherhuman

{{{JAH}}}

225 goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2014 2:36:06pm

re: #216 Lidane

226 Ian G.  Oct 22, 2014 2:36:22pm

re: #154 Lidane

LOL! I had no idea that Barcelona had re-named itself “London”.

227 Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2014 2:37:47pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

228 Danny Isn't Here Mrs Torrence  Oct 22, 2014 2:38:58pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

The way I read it, the Washington Post article basically reflects the bias of the unnamed sources, along with their own “not involved in the investigation” forensic analysts.

229 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 2:39:23pm

re: #226 Ian G.

LOL! I had no idea that Barcelona had re-named itself “London”.

Apparently this is the same world where Hong Kong is in South America.

230 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:42:14pm

re: #224 wrenchwitch

{{{JAH}}}

It’s infuriating. But I’ve never been a lemming, and intend to go on fighting until I find someone who is really patient-oriented and will really listen. It might be hard, but it’s not impossible. : )

231 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 2:42:39pm

re: #227 Romantic Heretic

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

Eh. It’s an NBD operation—two hours later you walk out with new bionics. It’ll cut into my porn LGf participation for a bit.

232 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2014 2:46:21pm

Updates from Ottawa:

- Canadian authorities still unsure if there was a second shooter or not
- Both deceased soldier and deceased shooter have been identified
- Traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian is starting to move again in downtown, though it’s mainly a one way exodus as not many people want to be in the city centre right now.
- Security operation is continuing as police look to determine with certainty whether or not another shooter is still at large
- Tonight’s NHL game between the Ottawa Senators and Toronto Maple Leafs in Ottawa, has been cancelled.
- Obviously this incident will result in a review of security on Parliament Hill. Senate security guards are typically unarmed. That may change after today.

Thank you on behalf of the people of Canada for your thoughts and prayers.

233 Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2014 2:47:06pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

My knowledge of firearms isn’t extensive, but that looks like a lot like the FN/FAL I fired years ago. Plastic instead of wood and an extensible stock but the resemblance is striking.

Couldn’t she have used an American firearm?

234 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:50:25pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Oh no…not glaucoma? Wishing you the best.

One of my earliest jobs was with an ophthalmologist/surgeon. Great guy.

235 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 2:51:06pm
236 Floral Giraffe  Oct 22, 2014 2:51:23pm

re: #218 Justanotherhuman

Ask everyone that you know, if they like their doctor. You’ll know when they do! Alternatively, you could go to the local hospitals website & look at the head of the department that you need. He/She has an office. Best wishes for you!

237 ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2014 2:53:47pm

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

It’s infuriating. But I’ve never been a lemming, and intend to go on fighting until I find someone who is really patient-oriented and will really listen. It might be hard, but it’s not impossible. : )

And good wishes to you too Justanotherhuman.

238 withak  Oct 22, 2014 2:54:06pm

re: #235 Lidane

I am consistently amazed at how low FNC will stoop, and how transparent they are willing to be about it.

239 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 2:55:47pm

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

Updates from Ottawa:

- Canadian authorities still unsure if there was a second shooter or not
- Both deceased soldier and deceased shooter have been identified
- Traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian is starting to move again in downtown, though it’s mainly a one way exodus as not many people want to be in the city centre right now.
- Security operation is continuing as police look to determine with certainty whether or not another shooter is still at large
- Tonight’s NHL game between the Ottawa Senators and Toronto Maple Leafs in Ottawa, has been cancelled.
- Obviously this incident will result in a review of security on Parliament Hill. Senate security guards are typically unarmed. That may change after today.

Thank you on behalf of the people of Canada for your thoughts and prayers.

I’ve loved Canada ever since I had the privilege of visiting Toronto over 40 yrs ago. Met some great people. And living in Buffalo as a kid, we crossed the border to visit Crystal Beach from time to time. : )

240 TedStriker  Oct 22, 2014 2:59:05pm

re: #221 Skip Intro

Yeah, Louie has no idea what he’s doing, but he’ll be re-elected for life and will probably be offered a Federal Judicial position under future President Wingnut.

I’d say that that’s ultimately what Louie’s angling for, but that presupposes that he’s has the intelligence and attention span to think and plan that far ahead.

So far, I’m not seeing it.

241 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 22, 2014 3:09:39pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

Yes. Good wishes.

I know people pick on the VA, but I just registered there 30 days ago* and I’m loving it so far. I’m very fortunate that when they sucked us all into Vietnam back in the ’60s, I ended up with a 10 percent service-connected disability! No co-pay on the stuff Medicare only pays 80 percent of.

I can still remember the dark end-of-extended-enlistment interview room, with the two—very, very M*A*S*H-like—young doctors trying to add on 10 percent more, and even 10 percent more. I kept saying, “No, there’s nothing wrong with me.” But what about that rash on your chest? “No, there’s nothing wrong with me.”

Ah, youth!

* At the VA I parked my car, walked in, got completely registered, and was back in my car in 27 minutes. They didn’t know I was coming and I took no papers with me other than a driver’s license :)

242 Bubblehead II  Oct 22, 2014 6:33:49pm

Night Lizards . IF rule in effect.

Sleep well Lizards and may the Deity of you’re choice smile down upon you and you’re s


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