Good News From the Ebola Front: Nurse Amber Vinson Has Recovered Already

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Tonight we have some good news about Amber Vinson, the second nurse diagnosed with Ebola after being in close contact with Liberian victim Thomas Eric Duncan: doctors at Emory University Hospital’s bio-containment facility are reportedly no longer able to detect the virus in her body.

And that means American medical care is now ahead of the curve on treating Ebola, since the other nurse who contracted the virus, Nina Pham, has also been cleared of the disease.

Here’s the statement from Amber Vinson’s family, via NBC Nightly News:

UPDATE at 10/22/14 5:52:38 pm by Charles Johnson

And more good news: the free lance NBC cameraman who came down with Ebola, Ashoka Mukpo, is also now a survivor.

Being young and healthy helped the NBC News freelancer diagnosed with Ebola defeat the virus, the doctors who treated him said at a press conference, NBC News reported. Ashoka Mukpo, who was on contract with NBC News when he got sick in Liberia, left the biocontainment unit at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha Wednesday after being declared Ebola-free. During his stay, Mukpo received an experimental pill as well as serum from Ebola survivor Dr. Kent Brantly, doctors said Wednesday. He also received regular testing and electrolyte replacement, necessary during the mid-stages of Ebola disease as they tend to get flushed out with severe vomiting and diarrhea.

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157 comments
1 Franklin  Oct 22, 2014 5:28:58pm

Wow, good news indeed!

2 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 5:29:57pm

Congratulations to her and the staff. Fan freaking tastic.

3 Varek Raith  Oct 22, 2014 5:30:57pm

Excellent.

4 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 5:32:44pm

That’s most impressive.

And it also suggests that if West Africa had our tech, number of doctors, and access to care, they too might be able to get ahead of the disease.

5 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 22, 2014 5:32:51pm

Excellent news!

Also, posting from downstairs, 2 things:

1. In re: the Gamergate douchebags, everyone should read this article from Max Read at Gawker Media:
How We Got Rolled by the Dishonest Fascists of Gamergate

Like them or not, Gawker Media (primarily through Jezebel, Kotaku, and, I believe Gizmodo) have done a pretty good job of covering this.

Last week, a Gawker writer tweeted “bring back bullying.” He, and later I, made the tactical mistake of publicly treating Gamergate with the contempt and flippancy that it deserves. As a consequence, our advertisers were quickly inundated with the same kinds of emails that spooked Intel. Gamergaters were passing around a sample letter (“DO NOT COPY AND PASTE”) and list of advertiser contacts to coordinate the campaign;

2. Anyone who watched the Age of Ultron trailer, can you tell me if that’s Brian Cranston (Breaking Bad) doing the voiceover?

6 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 5:33:21pm

She’s beautiful

7 klys  Oct 22, 2014 5:33:50pm

re: #4 Vogon Poetry

That’s most impressive.

And it also suggests that if West Africa had our tech, number of doctors, and access to care, they too might be able to get ahead of the disease.

And in some very serious ways, it suggests that the fatality rate is strongly related to the level of care received.

Sadly.

8 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 5:34:15pm

Wonderful news! Live long and prosper, Amber. : )

9 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:35:58pm

UNPOSSIBLE!!! THE CDC LIES!!!

10 wrenchwitch  Oct 22, 2014 5:36:00pm

She’s now America’s most valuable blood donor.

11 Belafon  Oct 22, 2014 5:37:22pm

Great. Now how are the Republicans going to fear monger govern?

/

12 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:37:30pm

re: #10 wrenchwitch

She’s now America’s most valuable blood donor.

Forget the blood. Just give me her B-cells.

13 Varek Raith  Oct 22, 2014 5:38:01pm

re: #12 Blind Frog Ebola White

Forget the blood. Just give me her B-cells.

Whoa there, vampire.

14 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 5:39:29pm

Can’t be true…. Chuckie said that she was released too soon, and he speaks french and everything.///unneeded

I wish her all the health and happiness, but I’m afraid that for the next year or so her life will be a living hell because, well, science is hard to understand, and it’s easier to just not think about things, you know, believe Fox.

RBS

15 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 5:39:47pm
16 freetoken  Oct 22, 2014 5:40:06pm

Off topic, but it does relate to how our media handles highly technical subjects that many people frankly don’t understand…

I don’t know what’s happening, if there is a coordinated effort or not, but there has been a spate of science writers attacking Native American and indigenous beliefs recent.

There was an article in Reason, which is a nutty glibertarian magazine so we expect foolishness form them.

Discover Magazine blogger Keith Kloor’s new posting:

When Political Sensitivities and Science Collide with Religion

[…] In any case, amidst all the uproar there wasn’t much discussion of the Native American creationist myths that were also on sale at the Grand Canyon National Park bookstores.

For some reason, science advocates who chafe at a biblical story of the Grand Canyon aren’t much bothered by American Indian creation tales that are remarkably similar, if you look closely.

[…]

There is George Johnson writing in the NYT:

Seeking Stars, Finding Creationism

[…]

While biblical creationists opposing the teaching of evolution have been turned back in case after case, American Indian tribes have succeeded in using their own religious beliefs and a federal law called the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act to empty archaeological museums of ancestral bones — including ones so ancient that they have no demonstrable connection to the tribe demanding their reburial. The most radical among them refuse to bow to a science they don’t consider their own. A few even share a disbelief in evolution, professing to take literally old myths in which the first people crawled out of a hole in the ground.

[…]

I think it is disingenuous to mix up the legal battles over the teaching of religious dogmas in public schools, with cultural baggage from the conquest of indigenous peoples.

The intersection of knowledge (“science”) and politics is always a bit tricky, and if ebola has demonstrated anything it is once again that anything we don’t understand can be made into a boogey-man to scare the masses.

The chasm between specialists who are knowledgeable about a subject and the masses, the customers of “mass” media, is vast.

I think this is one of our biggest challenges - how to get more Americans to care enough to learn about highly specialized and technical subjects, with which we have to deal.

Whether it is viruses or climate change or economics, our society feels as if we are diverging into two communities. Perhaps I’m just getting old and (more) curmudgeonly, but I have little patience for people who want to remain stupid.

17 austin_blue  Oct 22, 2014 5:40:31pm

But..but…what about the 42-day incubation period?

18 prairiefire  Oct 22, 2014 5:40:44pm

re: #6 bill d

She’s beautiful

She is!

19 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:40:51pm

re: #13 Varek Raith

Whoa there, vampire.

Dude, not to EAT. To capture her antibody repertoire. There’s probably a therapeutic in there, and once cloned and expressed, we won’t have to keep showing up at her door with a needle and a bag….

20 Varek Raith  Oct 22, 2014 5:41:25pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Ebola White

Dude, not to EAT. To capture her antibody repertoire. There’s probably a therapeutic in there, and once cloned and expressed, we won’t have to keep showing up at her door with a needle and a bag….

…
I got my eye on you!
/

21 Whack-A-Mole  Oct 22, 2014 5:42:04pm

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

re: #2, It’s James Spader I believe. He does the voice of Ultron.

22 klys  Oct 22, 2014 5:42:48pm

Argh, I miscounted.

Have more tweets.

23 nines09  Oct 22, 2014 5:42:51pm

Let me pick low hanging fruit and imagine the pleasure that certain low feeding personalities would derive from a negative outcome. Her clearing viral load is bad news to a whole world of deceit, lies and hatred. Good on her and good on us as caring about one another. Fuck the ghouls and bloodthirsty creeps of this life who enjoy and profit from misery. Fuck ‘em all.

24 austin_blue  Oct 22, 2014 5:42:59pm

re: #16 freetoken

Off topic, but it does relate to how our media handles highly technical subjects that many people frankly don’t understand…

I don’t know what’s happening, if there is a coordinated effort or not, but there has been a spate of science writers attacking Native American and indigenous beliefs recent.

<…>

Whether it is viruses or climate change or economics, our society feels as if we are diverging into two communities. Perhaps I’m just getting old and (more) curmudgeonly, but I have little patience for people who want to remain stupid.

this This THIS!

25 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 5:44:08pm
26 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 5:44:20pm

Great news, so sick of the doomsday prophets online with their “90% fatal” gibberish, record to date, Ebola 1 / U.S. Healthcare 7.

Suck it panic mongers…

27 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 22, 2014 5:44:41pm

re: #21 Whack-A-Mole

re: #2, It’s James Spader I believe. He does the voice of Ultron.

THANKS! I knew I’d heard the voice recently. Been switching between Blacklist and Breaking Bad on Netflix too much.

28 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 5:47:17pm
29 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 5:47:36pm

Ferguson right now.

Shit

30 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:47:37pm

re: #16 freetoken

Off topic, but it does relate to how our media handles highly technical subjects that many people frankly don’t understand…

I don’t know what’s happening, if there is a coordinated effort or not, but there has been a spate of science writers attacking Native American and indigenous beliefs recent.

There was an article in Reason, which is a nutty glibertarian magazine so we expect foolishness form them.

Discover Magazine blogger Keith Kloor’s new posting:

When Political Sensitivities and Science Collide with Religion

There is George Johnson writing in the NYT:

Seeking Stars, Finding Creationism

I think it is disingenuous to mix up the legal battles over the teaching of religious dogmas in public schools, with cultural baggage from the conquest of indigenous peoples.

The intersection of knowledge (“science”) and politics is always a bit tricky, and if ebola has demonstrated anything it is once again that anything we don’t understand can be made into a boogey-man to scare the masses.

The chasm between specialists who are knowledgeable about a subject and the masses, the customers of “mass” media, is vast.

I think this is one of our biggest challenges - how to get more Americans to care enough to learn about highly specialized and technical subjects, with which we have to deal.

Whether it is viruses or climate change or economics, our society feels as if we are diverging into two communities. Perhaps I’m just getting old and (more) curmudgeonly, but I have little patience for people who want to remain stupid.

The chasm is exacerbated intentionally by those who don’t want to believe what Science tells us, whether it’s about Evolution, or Climate Change, or vaccines; who push BELIEF above KNOWLEDGE, “Common Sense” above empirical observation.

We’d have a hell of a lot easier time communicating with everyday joes if there weren’t people actively trying to convince them we’re all liars who want to deny God, or destroy Capitalism, or make a buck turning their kids autistic.

31 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 5:48:54pm
32 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 5:49:34pm

re: #21 Whack-A-Mole

re: #2, It’s James Spader I believe. He does the voice of Ultron.

Yes, it’s 100% James Spader.

RBS

33 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 22, 2014 5:50:07pm

Yeah but how come Obummer won’t close the BORDERS and CANCEL ALL FLIGHTS?!?!?!!?!??!

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2014 5:50:29pm

Loaf of Banana Bread and a Beer

A distraction from today’s derpfest.

35 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 5:53:07pm

And more good news: the free lance NBC cameraman who came down with Ebola, Ashoka Mukpo, is also now a survivor.

Being young and healthy helped the NBC News freelancer diagnosed with Ebola defeat the virus, the doctors who treated him said at a press conference, NBC News reported. Ashoka Mukpo, who was on contract with NBC News when he got sick in Liberia, left the biocontainment unit at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha Wednesday after being declared Ebola-free. During his stay, Mukpo received an experimental pill as well as serum from Ebola survivor Dr. Kent Brantly, doctors said Wednesday. He also received regular testing and electrolyte replacement, necessary during the mid-stages of Ebola disease as they tend to get flushed out with severe vomiting and diarrhea.

36 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 5:53:17pm

re: #15 nearly-headless smith25

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37 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:53:24pm

re: #20 Varek Raith

…
I got my eye on you!
/

Me, yes. But what about my Minions?

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA - - -*cough, cough, sputter* - ha.

38 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 5:53:52pm

How do we know that it hasn’t simply mutated into a form that we aren’t detecting. It could very well be lying dormant right now, but re-emerge later on in its airborne form. How come they aren’t talking about that? Why wasn’t she held for the 42 days anyhow?

While I do have to admit that I just made up that particular bit of unlearned raving, I suspect that if that got started tweeting around the RWNJs, pretty soon it would be accepted fact.

39 Justanotherhuman  Oct 22, 2014 5:55:02pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards!

Later. : )

40 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 5:55:08pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Ebola White

Me, yes. But what about my Minions?

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA - - -*cough, cough, sputter* - ha.

Are you in favor of raising the Minion Wage?

RBS

41 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:55:26pm

re: #38 RealityBasedEbola

How do we know that it hasn’t simply mutated into a form that we aren’t detecting. It could very well be lying dormant right now, but re-emerge later on in its airborne form. How come they aren’t talking about that? Why wasn’t she held for the 42 days anyhow?

While I do have to admit that I just made up that particular bit of unlearned raving, I suspect that if that got started tweeting around the RWNJs, pretty soon it would be accepted fact.

DON’T TELL ME THE 95% CONFIDENCE INTERVAL!! I WANT 100% CONFIDENCE!! NO, 200%!!!

42 Blind Frog Ebola White  Oct 22, 2014 5:56:13pm

re: #40 RealityBasedEbola

Are you in favor of raising the Minion Wage?

RBS

Oog. That’s AWFUL!! All the updings!

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 5:59:37pm

More good news:

44 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 6:02:49pm

Where have they all gone…?

Don’t worry I saved some of their twitter handles, will be getting back to them shortly…bwahahahahaha! ;)

45 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 6:03:21pm

But will they?

46 Varek Raith  Oct 22, 2014 6:04:10pm

re: #40 RealityBasedEbola

Are you in favor of raising the Minion Wage?

RBS

*PEWPEWPEW*
Next question!

47 stpaulbear  Oct 22, 2014 6:04:11pm

re: #36 Stanley Seabola

One of the things I keep wondering is where Wilson is going to go where someone won’t eventually realize who he is. How are they going to hide him away forever?

Somehow, someday, he’s going to have the living shit beat out of him.

(maybe this is just wishful thinking…)

48 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:05:06pm
49 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:05:09pm

re: #45 Jenner7

50 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 6:05:59pm

re: #48 Vicious Piebola

[Embedded content]

Is that a “Prince Charles Spaniel”? It’s beautiful.

RBS

51 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 6:07:12pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

*PEWPEWPEW*
Next question!

ROFLMAO… I regret I have only One Upding to give for my LFG

52 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 6:07:28pm
53 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:07:54pm

Na na na na, hey hey hey, good bye—-

As Ferguson PD pulls back from other side of street.

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 6:08:05pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

More good news:

[Embedded content]

Not really a surprise that it’s NHL fans - they’re much more intimately wrapped up in Canada than most of us are. Still a good thing to see and hopefully it’ll get a bit of coverage.

55 psddluva4evah  Oct 22, 2014 6:09:26pm

Justice Dept. condemns Ferguson leaks as effort to influence opinion

…The U.S. Department of Justice condemned the leaks Wednesday as “irresponsibly and highly troubling” and said, “There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”…

56 dog philosopher  Oct 22, 2014 6:10:17pm

re: #34 Feline Fearless Leader

Banana_bread_and_a_beer

so that’s what “B&B” stands for?

57 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:10:25pm

re: #55 psddluva4evah

Justice Dept. condemns Ferguson leaks as effort to influence opinion

Yeah yeah. I just don’t see the Justice Dept. doing much about it. A bunch of platitudes.

Seriously, they need to shut it down and start over.

58 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 6:11:22pm
59 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:11:36pm

re: #57 Stanley Seabola

Yeah yeah. I just don’t see the Justice Dept. doing much about it. A bunch of platitudes.

Seriously, they need to shut it down and start over.

AND the leak may well come from the Justice Dept.

Holder needs to go out with some major desks splintered and smoldering.

60 JustMark  Oct 22, 2014 6:12:09pm

re: #57 Stanley Seabola

Yeah yeah. I just don’t see the Justice Dept. doing much about it. A bunch of platitudes.

Seriously, they need to shut it down and start over.

Missouri is a failed state.

61 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:12:13pm

Wow, police just pulled a bait tactic.

Pulled back momentarily. As protesters got into street (did not block cars from advancing). They did a very quick bum rush to try and get them while they were in the street.

62 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:12:19pm

re: #50 RealityBasedEbola

Is that a “Prince Charles Spaniel”? It’s beautiful.

RBS

Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

63 psddluva4evah  Oct 22, 2014 6:12:36pm

re: #57 Stanley Seabola

Can the DOJ take over a Grand Jury? I thought I understood that the DOJ can’t do anything to Wilson other than civil rights prosecution.

So what’s in their actual purview?

64 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 6:13:19pm

Sorry for the OT, but HOLY SCHNIKES… new Avengers trailer. Get it while it’s hot and before Disney kills it:

Click to Reveal

dailymotion.com

65 psddluva4evah  Oct 22, 2014 6:14:01pm

re: #59 Stanley Seabola

now see that I don’t believe. I’ll admit, it was another DOJ, I wouldn’t put it past them. Holder’s DOJ and it’s record on this type of civil rights, I don’t believe they’d do that.

66 dog philosopher  Oct 22, 2014 6:14:27pm

CDC no longer able to detect Ebola virus in her body

Government Agency Losing Track Of Ebola Virus Demonstrates Incompetence Of Big Government Solutions

private medicine would have been able to find ebola everywhere

67 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:17:10pm

re: #63 psddluva4evah

Can the DOJ take over a Grand Jury? I thought I understood that the DOJ can’t do anything to Wilson other than civil rights prosecution.

So what’s in their actual purview?

Nah, I don’t think they can. Wishful thinking here.

I’m so re-living to Kill a Mockingbird. Only there is no Atticus.

68 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:17:14pm
69 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 6:18:07pm

re: #49 nearly-headless smith25

I oppose/discourage any further violence or destruction of property in Ferguson. That having been said the PD must get enough heat to make reform happen. it simply must change.

70 Jenner7  Oct 22, 2014 6:18:57pm

WTF????

71 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:19:27pm

Here’s another Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. My boy with whom I cherish every last day… I fear there are few left. He’s deteriorating so quickly…

The bestest boy ever

72 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 6:20:01pm
73 goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2014 6:20:10pm

Apparently this is the guy who stopped the Ottawa gunman, the Sgt. at Arms of the Parliament.

Kevin Vickers: Gigantic golden mace wielding badass.

74 klys  Oct 22, 2014 6:20:18pm

re: #71 allegro

Here’s another Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. My boy with whom I cherish every last day… I fear there are few left. He’s deteriorating so quickly…

The bestest boy ever

He’s beautiful and been so lucky to be loved as much as you do.

75 psddluva4evah  Oct 22, 2014 6:20:28pm

re: #64 Lidane

Wow! I think I love you! That was awesome. My stupid computer was showing it real slow, but I got the gist.

Can’t wait til April!

76 bill d  Oct 22, 2014 6:22:17pm
77 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 6:25:42pm

re: #71 allegro

Here’s another Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. My boy with whom I cherish every last day… I fear there are few left. He’s deteriorating so quickly…

The bestest boy ever

Oh man so sorry. Dragon_Lady, LWC & I here at the 3 Lizard Lair get ya.

78 Bear  Oct 22, 2014 6:25:44pm

re: #71 allegro

I hope you are wrong. Best wishes.

79 sagehen  Oct 22, 2014 6:25:55pm

re: #26 ausador

Great news, so sick of the doomsday prophets online with their “90% fatal” gibberish, record to date, Ebola 1 / U.S. Healthcare 7.

Suck it panic mongers…

And that 1 probably would have lived if the hospital had admitted him right away.

80 Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2014 6:26:55pm
81 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 6:28:01pm

re: #63 psddluva4evah

Can the DOJ take over a Grand Jury? I thought I understood that the DOJ can’t do anything to Wilson other than civil rights prosecution.

So what’s in their actual purview?

Only a state can prosecute a person for crimes committed within that state, the federal government has no jurisdiction. Even in civil rights prosecution by the Feds they have to first show that the state failed to hold the person accountable for his illegal actions to gain jurisdiction.

Now if you kill someone while outside of the country or while employed by and acting on behalf of the federal government then yes you are under federal jurisdiction for prosecution.

82 Lidane  Oct 22, 2014 6:30:16pm

Marvel has a sense of humor:

And they’ve made it official:

Youtube Video

83 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 6:30:58pm

re: #60 JustMark

Missouri is a failed state.

Dear Missouri,

How about a new compromise. You stop killing unarmed black kids then obfuscating and covering it up, and maybe we’ll let you stay in the Union.

RBS
<feel free to tweet if desired>

84 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:31:31pm

re: #79 sagehen

And that 1 probably would have lived if the hospital had admitted him right away.

That’s what I keep thinking when I hear of all the others who have been treated in time and survived. Those two days lost were so likely the difference between his recovery and his death.

When can we come to our senses and accomplish single payer here like every other sane country on the planet?

85 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 6:32:50pm

re: #84 allegro

That’s what I keep thinking when I hear of all the others who have been treated in time and survived. Those two days lost were so likely the difference between his recovery and his death.

When can we come to our senses and accomplish single payer here like every other sane country on the planet?

We don’t need no Single Payer…. We have Single Prayer. That’s all the founding Fathers needed.

RBS

86 Belafon  Oct 22, 2014 6:33:58pm

re: #75 psddluva4evah

It was the source. There’s a link in the previous thread that was better.

87 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:36:21pm
88 Kragar  Oct 22, 2014 6:38:31pm
89 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:39:24pm

Sooooooo, we have a company bonding event this Friday. Lunch then racing at k1speed.com

I would have much more appreciated a gift cert to the La Costa Spa.

90 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 6:39:38pm

re: #87 nearly-headless smith25

Saw that elsewhere. Intimidating journalists will not be helpful in any way whatsoever.

91 Belafon  Oct 22, 2014 6:41:07pm

re: #90 Rightwingconspirator

That’s OK, it’s CNN, not to be confused with “journalists.”

92 nearly-headless smith25  Oct 22, 2014 6:41:16pm

re: #90 Rightwingconspirator

Saw that elsewhere. Intimidating journalists will not be helpful in any way whatsoever.

Don’t disagree, but it keeps control of the primary source video in the unedited live streamers.

93 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:41:19pm

re: #89 Stanley Seabola

Sooooooo, we have a company bonding event this Friday. Lunch then racing at k1speed.com

I would have much more appreciated a gift cert to the La Costa Spa.

Ooo that looks like fun! Then after, the spa and a mohito. :D

94 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2014 6:43:30pm

re: #91 Belafon

That’s OK, it’s CNN, not to be confused with “journalists.”

Good point there.

95 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:43:52pm

re: #93 allegro

Ooo that looks like fun! Then after, the spa and a mohito. :D

I am not into it. I drive so much every day avoiding speeding and fuck ups. I will try to have fun. (going to wait till the yahoo’s have had their turn)

I wish they would pay for the spa.

96 klys  Oct 22, 2014 6:45:39pm

re: #89 Stanley Seabola

Sooooooo, we have a company bonding event this Friday. Lunch then racing at k1speed.com

I would have much more appreciated a gift cert to the La Costa Spa.

Tomorrow I get the proper stick-puck sport game. I AM SO EXCITED.

Apologies in advance to any Lizards who follow me on teh Twitters. It will be something other than cross stitch for a bit.

97 Vicious Piebola  Oct 22, 2014 6:48:23pm

ChuckC has gigantic larger-than-life posters of Glenn The Goblin King EVERYWHERE.

98 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:48:39pm

re: #96 klys

Tomorrow I get the proper stick-puck sport game. I AM SO EXCITED.

Apologies in advance to any Lizards who follow me on teh Twitters. It will be something other than cross stitch for a bit.

Cross stitch needs a little blood and tooth loss at times.

99 klys  Oct 22, 2014 6:50:18pm

re: #98 allegro

Cross stitch needs a little blood and tooth loss at times.

That’s what happens when I stab myself with the needle while gnashing my teeth about the section I have to pull out because I can’t count.

///

100 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 6:50:44pm

re: #95 Stanley Seabola

I’m actually afraid to get hurt. lol.

Usually I’m really gung ho. I LOVE water slides, I put kids to shame on them. But driving on a track, with other idiots? gah.

101 BeachDem  Oct 22, 2014 6:50:45pm

From Charles P. Pierce:

I am now in my fourth hour of watching the CBC’s coverage of the shooting at the Canadian parliament today. There has been virtually no mention of Islamic fundamentalism, or ISIL, or ISIS, or any other of the popular bogeymen. Moreover, the only casual reference to any of that came from a CBC reporter who was reporting from outside the White House, and the only hint of a political reaction to come is some confusion as to whether Canada had been placed on heightened alert some time last week. (They don’t use the phrase “terror threat,” and the reporters are quick to point out that official talk about “chatter” can mean anything at all.) Nobody in parliament has blamed Stephen Harper or leaped to a microphone to yell about closing Canada’s borders. The coverage has been calm, judicious, and remarkably intelligent. And nobody’s talking about black holes, so there’s that, too.

102 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 6:51:42pm

Wouldn’t it be interesting if the death rate from Ebola in places with resources for medical care is about 10-20% as opposed to the 70-90% that is usually reported?

103 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 6:53:41pm

re: #99 klys

That’s what happens when I stab myself with the needle while gnashing my teeth about the section I have to pull out because I can’t count.

///

That’s why I gave up complicated cross stitch patterns. I even scared my 6’5”, 250 pound husband when I did that.

104 klys  Oct 22, 2014 6:55:32pm

re: #103 allegro

That’s why I gave up complicated cross stitch patterns. I even scared my 6’5”, 250 pound husband when I did that.

Today’s frogged section, thankfully, was 4 stitches.

I love how the complicated ones look but I know. I managed to find someone’s photos of the current project finished and it’s like OH GOD THIS WILL BE SO PRETTY MUST WORK HARDER.

It at least helps with the being fed up with job applications and the Internet and everything.

105 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 6:56:48pm

re: #104 klys

Today’s frogged section, thankfully, was 4 stitches.

I love how the complicated ones look but I know. I managed to find someone’s photos of the current project finished and it’s like OH GOD THIS WILL BE SO PRETTY MUST WORK HARDER.

It at least helps with the being fed up with job applications and the Internet and everything.

On the other hand, there’s an update at Things I won’t work with: pipeline.corante.com

106 klys  Oct 22, 2014 6:58:39pm

re: #105 EPR-radar

On the other hand, there’s an update at pipeline.corante.com

Oh, so much love.

Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three? Instead of having two liters of pyridine poured down your trousers, why not three? And so on - it’s a liberating thought. It’s true that adding more oxygen-oxygen bonds to a compound will eventually liberate the tiles from your floor and your windows from their frames, but that comes with the territory.

107 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 22, 2014 6:59:01pm

OT . But I think I found the best cheese commercials in the world. (yes, cheese) NEVER say no to Panda.

Video

108 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 6:59:06pm

re: #102 EPR-radar

Wouldn’t it be interesting if the death rate from Ebola in places with resources for medical care is about 10-20% as opposed to the 70-90% that is usually reported?

The overall death rate is running 70-90% because of the lack of medical resources; Nigeria had 7 fatalities out of 20 cases. That’s 65% survival rate.

In the US, out of the eight people treated for Ebola, 1 died (Duncan), and that case was likely marred by delays in proper care.

What we’re seeing is that with prompt care and adequate precautions, the disease is survivable (and wont be transmitted to other persons - especially health care workers).

109 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 6:59:08pm

re: #84 allegro

That’s what I keep thinking when I hear of all the others who have been treated in time and survived. Those two days lost were so likely the difference between his recovery and his death.

When can we come to our senses and accomplish single payer here like every other sane country on the planet?

Thank the “Blue Dogs” if we had gotten the public option as part of the ACA as intended with its 3% overhead then Medicare would now be kicking private insurers asses in sign-ups. It would have inevitably led to single payer in a decade and a half or so, not to mention keeping Medicare solvent.

Stupid bastards got wiped out in the 2010 and 2012 elections anyway. Shame their desire to try to keep their congressional seats meant more to them than doing what was best for the country. :(

110 goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2014 6:59:40pm

Finally pulled the trigger and am now downloading Bioshock Infinite.

Clearly not an early adopter.

111 Vogon Poetry  Oct 22, 2014 7:00:07pm
112 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 22, 2014 7:03:01pm

re: #111 Vogon Poetry

Why ask Cooper to take a photo of him anyway? Just selfie yourself.

113 psddluva4evah  Oct 22, 2014 7:04:16pm
114 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 22, 2014 7:05:31pm

re: #106 klys

Oh, so much love.

I know just enough chemistry to know how little I know but that page is a pure delight.

Five Oxygens anyone? < whistles… >

115 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:05:53pm

re: #108 Vogon Poetry

The overall death rate is running 70-90% because of the lack of medical resources; Nigeria had 7 fatalities out of 20 cases. That’s 65% survival rate.

In the US, out of the eight people treated for Ebola, 1 died (Duncan), and that case was likely marred by delays in proper care.

What we’re seeing is that with prompt care and adequate precautions, the disease is survivable (and wont be transmitted to other persons - especially health care workers).

This is pretty much what I was getting at. Ebola gets all the press in the US, but its death rate and the death rate of many other infectious diseases in many parts of the world is greatly increased by a lack of medical resources.

Strange that the GOP is stoking panic about Ebola while doing all that it can to make the US medical system less capable of dealing with such things. //

116 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:07:46pm

re: #107 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

just you know whyyyyyyyy

117 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:07:55pm

re: #113 psddluva4evah

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I don’t think one has to have a genius IQ to notice that every bit of info “leaked” fits the same pattern: Michael Brown was a violent “thug” who Wilson had to shoot to protect himself.

118 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:08:55pm

re: #113 psddluva4evah

I’m a broken record on this topic, but the Feds really need to come down like a ton of bricks on these state and local authorities.

It could even be viewed as a national security issue.

119 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:09:29pm

re: #111 Vogon Poetry

[Embedded content]

I like Anderson Cooper. Good on him.

120 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:11:11pm

re: #113 psddluva4evah

[Embedded content]

Because you are dealing with 2014 James Crow.

Amaze. Deal with it.

121 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:13:42pm

I would not be surprised if the failure to indict Wilson is announced as part of the Friday news dump. That’s the way this whole boondoggle has been handled by the local authorities, as something they’d rather see buried and forgotten.

122 Kid A  Oct 22, 2014 7:15:52pm

Dana Loesch is not very smart.
Link

123 Varek Raith  Oct 22, 2014 7:16:22pm

Who the hell is Vandon Gene?
;)

124 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 7:17:01pm

re: #114 William Barnett-Lewis

I know just enough chemistry to know how little I know but that page is a pure delight.

Five Oxygens anyone? < whistles… >

Sounds like Monday morning at Picatinny Arsenal.

125 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:17:37pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

I would not be surprised if the failure to indict Wilson is announced as part of the Friday news dump. That’s the way this whole boondoggle has been handled by the local authorities, as something they’d rather see buried and forgotten.

But it won’t be. Amazed that there is not one young progressive on their staff to advise them.

That person is probably afraid to speak up.

gah

126 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 22, 2014 7:20:51pm

re: #116 Stanley Seabola

just you know whyyyyyyyy

127 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:21:24pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

I would not be surprised if the failure to indict Wilson is announced as part of the Friday news dump. That’s the way this whole boondoggle has been handled by the local authorities, as something they’d rather see buried and forgotten.

If that were to happen, I’d like to see a prompt and competent Federal response. A starting point could be the filing in Federal court and publication of the terms of a severe consent decree for systematic reform of St. Louis county municipal governments and law enforcement, terms to include disbanding of egregiously offending police departments and municipalities.

128 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:28:36pm

re: #127 EPR-radar

If that were to happen, I’d like to see a prompt and competent Federal response. A starting point could be the filing in Federal court and publication of the terms of a severe consent decree for systematic reform of St. Louis county municipal governments and law enforcement, terms to include disbanding of egregiously offending police departments and municipalities.

I honestly don’t see it happening. As much as we’d like to believe the Feds will step in and stop this shit, odds are that politics will play a huge part in stopping them from doing such. There will be talk of such, perhaps even strong hints that they’ll do it, but in the end it won’t happen because it will be seen as a “vendetta.”

129 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Oct 22, 2014 7:29:34pm

Everyone remember Holder’s on his way out.

130 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 7:30:14pm

re: #106 klys

I found something alarming!

But there are wilder poly-peroxides out there. If you want to really oxidize the crap out of things with this compound, you will turn to the “peroxone process”. This is a combination of ozone and hydrogen peroxide, for those times when a single explosive oxidizing agent just won’t do. I’m already on record as not wanting to isolate any ozone products, so as you can imagine, I really don’t want to mess around with that and hydrogen peroxide at the same time. This brew generates substantial amounts of HOOOH, ozonide radicals, hydroxy radicals and all kinds of other hideous thingies, and the current thinking is that one of the intermediates is the HOOOOO- anion. Yep, five oxygens in a row - I did not type that with my elbows. You’ll want the peroxone process if you’re treated highly contaminated waste water or the like: here’s a look at using it for industrial remediation. One of the problems they had was that as they pumped ozone and peroxide into the contaminated site, the ozone kept seeping back up into the equipment trailer and setting off alarms as if the system were suddenly leaking, which must have been a lot of fun.

131 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:31:13pm

re: #129 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Everyone remember Holder’s on his way out.

Fire. Fire on the splintered desks.

I wish.

132 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2014 7:31:42pm
133 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 22, 2014 7:31:51pm

Night All.

Just remember, you may be cool, but you’re not ‘surfing duck cool’

RBS

134 klys  Oct 22, 2014 7:32:01pm

re: #130 The War TARDIS

I found something alarming!

Most of the site on that website is alarming if you consider that people somewhere actually work with this shit.

Since I don’t, I can laugh hysterically.

135 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:32:30pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

I honestly don’t see it happening. As much as we’d like to believe the Feds will step in and stop this shit, odds are that politics will play a huge part in stopping them from doing such. There will be talk of such, perhaps even strong hints that they’ll do it, but in the end it won’t happen because it will be seen as a “vendetta.”

I also see this capitulation to the politics of the situation as being too likely.

However, letting a bunch of riots happen because the Feds can’t do the right thing if/when MO effs this up is also a shitty option.

136 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:34:19pm

re: #130 The War TARDIS

The entire ‘Things I won’t work with’ category at that blog is well worth reading. Five oxygens in a row is about a 7/10 on the scale of chemical craziness considered there.

137 Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2014 7:34:46pm

re: #135 EPR-radar

I also see this capitulation to the politics of the situation as being too likely.

However, letting a bunch of riots happen because the Feds can’t do the right thing if/when MO effs this up is also a shitty option.

Thing about that is that, if riots do happen, it only makes the politics of the whole situation even worse. Because then it becomes “mob justice,” it becomes the DOJ acting against a police department for no other reason than to satisfy an angry mob. It may not be true, but that’s how it will be spun.

138 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 7:34:48pm

re: #134 klys

HOOOOO even, to my math-challenged scientific knowledge, sounds like it would go boom with such hard actions as staring at it for a second.

139 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 7:35:17pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

I’ve read all of them. :)

140 Stanley Seabola  Oct 22, 2014 7:37:42pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Thing about that is that, if riots do happen, it only makes the politics of the whole situation even worse. Because then it becomes “mob justice,” it becomes the DOJ acting against a police department for no other reason than to satisfy an angry mob. It may not be true, but that’s how it will be spun.

Justice is hard.

141 EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2014 7:40:41pm

re: #140 Stanley Seabola

Justice is hard.

Rush Limbaugh et al. cannot be given a heckler’s veto.

If the grand jury comes back with no indictment in the Wilson case, that is sufficient grounds for any fair-minded person to conclude the fix is in, especially given the pattern of lies and leaks by the local authorities since day one.

To hell with the RWNJs.

142 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 22, 2014 7:43:10pm

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Like them or not, Gawker Media (primarily through Jezebel, Kotaku, and, I believe Gizmodo) have done a pretty good job of covering this.

I’m sure you have had this experience: You open the newspaper or click a link to an article on some subject you know well. Maybe you know about it because you deal with it in your job, or you’ve had significant first-hand experience with it in some other way. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward —reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors and unmitigated bullshit in a story, but then you click the next link or turn the page, and read as if the rest of the articles were somehow more accurate about [topic xyz] than the laughable nonsense you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

143 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 22, 2014 7:44:48pm

re: #88 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Step 1) hit rock bottom

Step 2) apply dynamite

Step 3) keep digging

Step 4) gosub Step1

Step 5) post that nonsense on Twitter

144 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 7:46:59pm

re: #134 klys

Most of the site on that website is alarming if you consider that people somewhere actually work with this shit.

Since I don’t, I can laugh hysterically.

Used to work here (after they rebuilt it).

thevane.gawker.com

145 ausador  Oct 22, 2014 7:50:39pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

I would not be surprised if the failure to indict Wilson is announced as part of the Friday news dump. That’s the way this whole boondoggle has been handled by the local authorities, as something they’d rather see buried and forgotten.

When your expecting rioting to possibly result from your announcement Friday evening probably isn’t the best time. Perhaps a Monday morning…?

146 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 7:51:01pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

Some of those pictures look like they belong in Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas.

147 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 7:54:17pm

re: #146 The War TARDIS

Some of those pictures look like theybelong in Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas.

We were still unearthing munitions from the explosion in the ’80s. We learned a lot from that:

1. Don’t run towards the burning magazine.
2. …

148 allegro  Oct 22, 2014 7:54:38pm

re: #145 ausador

When your expecting rioting to possibly result from your announcement Friday evening probably isn’t the best time. Perhaps a Monday morning…?

There’s no time for this kind of unjust bullshit. They keep dragging it out and dropping these leaks to try to prevent the inevitable, hoping that people are that fucking stupid or maybe just flat worn out from the fight. I think it isn’t working this time and it isn’t going to.

149 The War TARDIS  Oct 22, 2014 7:56:53pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

I didn’t know one had to learn the first lesson.

150 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 7:59:21pm

re: #149 The War TARDIS

I didn’t know one had to learn the first lesson.

Most of the dead were in a Marine security detachment who ran to fight the initial fire with hand equipment.

151 prairiefire  Oct 22, 2014 8:06:16pm

The Royals are ahead because I am NOT wearing my blue shirt from yesterday and it looked like rain today.

152 Swift2991  Oct 22, 2014 8:08:26pm

re: #101 BeachDem

I worked at the CBC for 15 years. It doesn’t surprise me. In normal times, the private networks get higher ratings, and their news is still Canadian, but, you know, with a little modest sensationalism on the side, compared to here. But whenever there’s something serious happening, the CBC’s ratings go sky-high.

153 Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2014 8:09:38pm

‘Nite, all.

154 Swift2991  Oct 22, 2014 8:11:37pm

But very good news about the nurse. When you wake up after an operation, this is the kind of face that’s looking down on you, saying, “Good evening, Mr. Swift2991, how are you feeling?”

I’m happy she’s out the other side.

155 andres  Oct 22, 2014 8:19:10pm

re: #64 Lidane

Sorry for the OT, but HOLY SCHNIKES… new Avengers trailer. Get it while it’s hot and before Disney kills it:

[Embedded content]

No need to go underground:

Click to Reveal

Youtube Video

156 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.  Oct 22, 2014 8:20:44pm

re: #154 Swift2991

Hahahaha. Yeah, she is a cutey. I would not look so fresh after Ebola.

157 bluebonnetbunny  Oct 23, 2014 12:19:52pm

re: #71 allegro

What a handsome boy! He is lucky to be so loved. Last month I adopted a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel from a local shelter.
Millie has some health problems which we are treating with a combination of prescription meds and supplements like Ubiquinol and Omega 3s to strengthen her heart. I learned a lot from holistic vet websites and she is improving steadily. Her human died and no one in the family wanted her, so Millie ended up in a shelter. I told my family that if anything happens to me and they don’t look after Millie, I will haunt them lol!


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