The Title of Jim Hoft’s Latest Fear-Mongering Post Is Debunked by His Own Post

The idiocy. It burns.
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The mindless, dishonest fear-mongering never stops. The Dumbest Man on the Internet is relentless. And now, his latest tactic is to use a title that’s completely belied by the actual article he’s quoting; he obviously knows his knuckle-dragging audience of right wing goons aren’t going to read or care about that: Nurse Roommate of Kaci Hickox Developed Ebola | the Gateway Pundit.

Oh NOEZ! Her roommate in Africa got Ebola?! [run around screaming] [light hair on fire] [flip desk]

THIS IS HORRIBLE WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE NOW!!!

Oh wait. The article actually says Hickox is long out of the danger zone for catching the virus.

The roommate of CDC nurse Kaci Hickox developed Ebola displayed signs [sic] of Ebola.

WAGM TV reported, via PJ Media:

Sheila Pinette of the Maine CDC has released information that the roommate of Kaci Hickox, while in West Africa has displayed signs of ebola. Pinette says “The respondents roommate in Africa became infected without knowing how she became infected with Ebola. (Any potential risk to respondent from that incident has passed).” This is one of 35 points Pinette made while filing a verified petition for public health order yesterday with the state. Kaci Hickox was issued temporary court order.

Oh well, never mind. Just another day in the stupid, hateful life of Jim Hoft.

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351 comments
1 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 4:18:45pm

Dim Jim is such a terrible writer.

2 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 4:21:22pm

Jim just moves right on to another fear story. They’re pumping this poison out 24/7 in the right wing blogosphere.

Woman Visiting From Liberia Hospitalized in Portland Area Being Tested for Ebola | OregonLive.com

Since arriving in Portland, the woman had been taking her temperature twice and day and reporting to the county. Until Friday, it had been normal, said Dr. Katrina Hedberg, state health officer. But in the morning it spiked.

“It got our attention because it was was over 102 degrees,” said Dr. Paul Lewis, health officer for Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington counties.

The county sent medical professionals to her home, including Dr. Jonathan Jui, Multnomah County’s emergency services medical director. Dressed in full protective gear, from his head to fingertips to toes, he examined her and decided she should be hospitalized.

She was taken to Milwaukie, which is fully staffed for treating an Ebola patient. Underriner said she was ushered into the hospital through a “secured” pathway far from other patients.

She is now in isolation there.

Physicians will draw a blood sample, then triple package it according to biohazard regulations for shipment to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. That process could take a day, Lewis said. The test results themselves take a few hours.

The people who were staying in the same household have agreed to stay at home under self-quarantine while the woman’s status is up-in-the-air, Lewis said. The woman had been free to travel around the city before Friday.

“This person was at low risk,” Hedberg said. “She did not have any known contact with Ebola patients in those countries.”

3 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 4:24:19pm

Note that TDMOTI is linking to PJM for his source, in particular the mendacious PJ Tatler column.

The reality of TDMOTI is that he isn’t creative - he can only copy.

4 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 4:46:01pm

Reading comments on ebola stories on various American media outlets, it seems the fear mongers are winning.

Or…. the usual hate-mongers have just rebooted their hate to target anyone who could be labeled EBOLA!!!!!

5 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 4:46:20pm
6 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 4:47:41pm

re: #4 freetoken

The media are doing their best to pump out the fear stories too. And a lot of the talking heads are complete idiots who are making things worse.

This might be the most overblown, overhyped story of the year.

7 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 4:50:54pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Get this:

Agreement reached to keep Ebola waste ashes out of Louisiana

Attorney General Buddy Caldwell announced Friday the state had reached a deal to keep Ebola waste ashes out of a Lake Charles landfill.

Caldwell got a temporary restraining order to keep Texas incinerator Veolia Environmental Services from disposing of the ashes at Louisiana hazardous waste landfill run by Chemical Waste Management.

The ashes were all that remained of the incinerated belongings of Thomas Eric Duncan, who died of the Ebola virus in Dallas. Though the ashes posed no risk to humans, according to the Centers for Disease Control, Caldwell argued too many things were unknown about the virus to risk bringing it to Louisiana.

[…]

Caldwell - I wonder what the odds are of him being a creationist?

8 Teukka  Oct 31, 2014 4:54:24pm

re: #7 freetoken

Get this:

Agreement reached to keep Ebola waste ashes out of Louisiana

Caldwell - I wonder what the odds are of him being a creationist?

*facepalms*

Yanno, fire is one of the known ways to kill EBOV.

*rolls eyes*

*makes calls to arrange a truck with tables and a couple of barrels of napalm*

9 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 4:55:27pm

re: #8 Teukka

And now you know why Bobby Jindal is a creationist.

10 Shiplord Kirel  Oct 31, 2014 4:55:42pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson

Am I a bad citizen if I don’t go and get candy for my neighborhood’s Trick or Treaters?

No, Chuck, this does not rise to the level of bad citizen. You’re just a plain, low-grade asshole.

11 Timothy Watson  Oct 31, 2014 4:57:49pm

OT:

Jade Raymond. Anita Sarkeesian. Jennifer Hepler. 𠂽ina Abou Karam. Jenn Frank. Zoe Quinn.

What do these women have in common?

Sadly, that fact that I’d never heard of any of them until they were on the receiving end of scores of disgusting harassment. Well, add one more name to the list: game developer Brianna Wu (pictured). A few weeks ago she retweeted a couple “Oppressed GamerGater” memes, images of a child throwing a tantrum accompanied by phrases such as “This is about corruption. *Tweets 500 things attacking women” and “Fighting an apocalyptic future… where women are 8% of programmers and not 3%.”

Some of the responses she received were scary enough to drive her from her home, something that Sarkeesian and Quinn have also experienced.

A week later, Wu came back and came back pissed. “I have to be honest. A mob telling you they will castrate your husband, make you choke to death on the parts, murder any children you might have and then rape your ass until it bleeds has a way of scaring the hell out of you,” Wu wrote at xojane.com. “But, you know, because I am the Godzilla of bitches, by Saturday morning I was pissed off. I’m talking Jack Bauer pissed off. So, I decided I was going to do everything in my power to stop these fuckers.”

gamepolitics.com

12 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 4:59:10pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The media are doing their best to pump out the fear stories too. And a lot of the talking heads are complete idiots who are making things worse.

This might be the most overblown, overhyped story of the year.

One freakn’ car full of drunk kids on prom night is more deadly, so far.

13 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:00:12pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel

No, Chuck, this does not rise to the level of bad citizen. You’re just a plain, low-grade asshole.

Not a problem. Expect a bunch of cryptic chalk-marks on CCJ’s front walk.

14 lawhawk  Oct 31, 2014 5:01:40pm

So, Louisiana will accept nuclear/radioactive wastes. They’ll accept waste from oil and gas drilling.

All of which is known to be dangerous.

But EBOV that has been incinerated and is no longer a threat? That’s not allowed.

Well, it’s Louisiana, so that’s about par for the course. Bass ackward as usual.

15 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 31, 2014 5:02:16pm

re: #7 freetoken

Get this:

Agreement reached to keep Ebola waste ashes out of Louisiana

Caldwell - I wonder what the odds are of him being a creationist?

Of course Louisiana has some of the most polluted c waterways due to toxic dumping, but hey, that producers nola.com asshats

16 EPR-radar  Oct 31, 2014 5:02:27pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Not a problem. Expect a bunch of cryptic chalk-marks on CCJ’s front walk.

If a flaming bag of dog poop is left on CCJ’s porch, will he run out and embrace it as his long lost twin brother?

17 Teukka  Oct 31, 2014 5:04:55pm

On topic video - 3 Things We Can Do To Stop Ebola:

Youtube Video

Courtesy: SciShow

18 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:07:28pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

If a flaming bag of dog poop is left on CCJ’s porch, will he run out and embrace it as his long lost twin brother?

I’LL SUE !!11

19 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 31, 2014 5:07:57pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

If a flaming bag of dog poop is left on CCJ’s porch, will he run out and embrace it as his long lost twin brother?

He will stomp it out while wearing crocs (you know he’s got a pair of them), walk back into the house tracking poop all over the carpets. He will then declare himself a fearless fire fighter, and that poop on the carpet is all from LGF.

You know that’s how it would play out

20 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:08:56pm

re: #19 RealityBasedEbola

In ancient Pittsburgh, a bag of flaming poop was a mark of grudging respect.

21 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 5:12:54pm

Federal charges appear unlikely in Ferguson police shooting - Washington Post

I wonder about stories like this - when are leaks intentional or not.

22 Floral Giraffe  Oct 31, 2014 5:15:26pm

re: #19 RealityBasedEbola

He will stomp it out while wearing crocs (you know he’s got a pair of them), walk back into the house tracking poop all over the carpets. He will then declare himself a fearless fire fighter, and that poop on the carpet is all from LGF.

You know that’s how it would play out

And, you know he wears his crocs with socks!
Shudders….

23 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:17:21pm

re: #22 Floral Giraffe

And, you know he wears his crocs with socks!
Shudders….

CCJ’s hobo chalk sign: ###.

Chalk code:

worldpath.net

24 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:18:24pm

I just saw the neighbor kid trick or treater get in a car and leave with her Mom. I might have wasted money on this candy..

25 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:18:43pm

It is not dark here yet.

26 RealityBasedEbola  Oct 31, 2014 5:19:38pm

Sitting in the theater, me and some friends are getting ready to watch Saw (10th anniversary release). Be interesting to see how it holds up. Really thought it was the best of the franchise.

27 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 5:21:10pm

re: #24 Stanley Seabola

I just saw the neighbor kid trick or treater get in a car and leave with her Mom. I might have wasted money on this candy..

Mrs. Fish raided the dollar store for toys - glow bracelets, rubber spiders, etc. They’re proving to be a surprisingly big hit among the younger crowd.

28 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:22:06pm

re: #27 theEbolafishlives

Mrs. Fish raided the dollar store for toys - glow bracelets, rubber spiders, etc. They’re proving to be a surprisingly big hit among the younger crowd.

Very cool idea.

29 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:25:02pm

Anyone who is a baby whisperer is by default a really good person.

30 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 5:25:31pm

re: #28 Stanley Seabola

Very cool idea.

Apparently we weren’t the only ones; the fishspawn came home with a couple of glow bracelets.

31 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:28:16pm

re: #30 theEbolafishlives

Apparently we weren’t the only ones; the fishspawn came home with a couple of glow bracelets.

I’ve just got snickers and reeses. Old school. Next year I will do better.

32 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:29:22pm

I feel a dud a-coming. Never seen the parking lot of my complex so empty on a Friday nite.

33 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 5:30:29pm

re: #31 Stanley Seabola

I’ve just got snickers and reeses. Old school. Next year I will do better.

Last year we overloaded and wound up with bags full of candy left over. We’re counting the participants this year - even though it’s going to be a bit of a downer, with the temperature at time of departure a brisk 32 degrees F (0 degrees C).

34 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 31, 2014 5:34:41pm

Our town’s Community Services Dept. puts on a big event in the park. Most all of the trick or treaters go there.

35 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:35:30pm

re: #34 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Our town’s Community Services Dept. puts on a big event in the park. Most all of the trick or treaters go there.

FEMA Treat.

36 Floral Giraffe  Oct 31, 2014 5:37:48pm

re: #27 theEbolafishlives

Mrs. Fish raided the dollar store for toys - glow bracelets, rubber spiders, etc. They’re proving to be a surprisingly big hit among the younger crowd.

And, um, yes I was a retailer…
They’re HALF PRICE tomorrow.
As is the candy….

37 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:37:56pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

FEMA Treat.

how many elsa’s?

38 HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2014 5:39:21pm

Haven’t gotten any trick or treaters here tonight. Surprised.

39 Cheechako  Oct 31, 2014 5:39:27pm

Just have no idea how many Trick or Treaters we’ll get tonight. It’s been raining hard all day….just like the rest of the summer. 24”+ from June to August, 9”+ for Sept and well over 7” in October. Of course this is the Rain Forest but these amounts are close to breaking all records.

40 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:39:31pm

re: #37 Stanley Seabola

how many elsa’s?

Four or so, including one mom and her sister as Anna.

41 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:40:24pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Haven’t gotten any trick or treaters here tonight. Surprised.

Bummer. Did you remember to put up the honey badger?

42 HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2014 5:41:16pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Bummer. Did you remember to put up the honey badger?

Ah nope. Hey more leftover candy though. That’s a plus.

43 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 5:41:59pm

re: #36 Floral Giraffe

And, um, yes I was a retailer…
They’re HALF PRICE tomorrow.
As is the candy….

Actually, that’s why we went with the toys. Cheaper to buy at the dollar store, then we can splurge the savings on candy tomorrow. ;)

44 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:43:27pm

re: #43 theEbolafishlives

Actually, that’s why we went with the toys. Cheaper to buy at the dollar store, then we can splurge the savings on candy tomorrow. ;)

We did a last-minute buy of foil-wrapped eyeballs for backup. They were popular. Still have half a bowl, then we break out the raisins.

45 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 5:44:21pm

What a racist scumbag.

46 HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2014 5:45:28pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

What a racist scumbag.

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Rhetorical question but must he always be a pathetic dick?

47 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:45:39pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

What a racist scumbag.

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Not even original derp. Charles C. has a Compton Cookout somewhere in his history.

48 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 5:48:34pm

re: #29 Stanley Seabola

I see that Moloch’s high priest has found his first offering.

49 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 5:53:49pm
50 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 5:54:33pm

For those who missed the connection:

President Moloch Obama’s first offering to the culture of death

Obama administration endorses worship of Moloch…

See also:

Obama and The Priest of Molech, One in the Same?

Youtube Video

51 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 5:57:20pm

re: #50 freetoken

For those who missed the connection:

President Moloch Obama’s first offering to the culture of death

Obama administration endorses worship of Moloch…

See also:

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Author #2 is against a lot of things, including grammar and punctuation.

52 lawhawk  Oct 31, 2014 5:58:45pm

re: #33 theEbolafishlives

We’ve had but one person come by trick or treating since we got home. Either everyone tried to get us before we got home from work, or everyone skipped our block.

Either way, we’ve got leftover candy. At least it’s the chocolate variety. Wont buy anything I wouldn’t eat otherwise.

53 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 5:59:48pm

re: #52 Vogon Poetry

We’ve had but one person come by trick or treating since we got home. Either everyone tried to get us before we got home from work, or everyone skipped our block.

Either way, we’ve got leftover candy. At least it’s the chocolate variety. Wont buy anything I wouldn’t eat otherwise.

I’m finally hearing the first ones out in the neighborhood. The bulk of the activity here is definitely between 6 and 8pm and we’re just getting into that stretch.

It’ll be interesting to see how much the rain affects things.

54 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:00:16pm

re: #52 Vogon Poetry

We’ve had but one person come by trick or treating since we got home. Either everyone tried to get us before we got home from work, or everyone skipped our block.

Either way, we’ve got leftover candy. At least it’s the chocolate variety. Wont buy anything I wouldn’t eat otherwise.

Bet it was the ‘hold harmless’ agreements you made them sign last year.

55 lawhawk  Oct 31, 2014 6:01:32pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Heh…

56 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 6:02:09pm

Oh brother. I swear, the right wing is really losing it these days. They’re turning into a separate species of extremely moronic creatures. I can’t even.

Youtube Video

Watch Electronic Voting Machine Switch to Democrat After Selecting GOP Candidate | Truth Revolt

It doesn’t “switch” at all. He taps too far above the box for the Republican candidate and selects the Democrat.

Utter bullshit. And they’re all going for it.

IT’S A LIBRUL CONSPIRACY TO STEAL ARE VOTES!

This is on Dim Jim’s site too, of course.

57 blueraven  Oct 31, 2014 6:03:43pm

The Marine jailed in Mexico will be released. Mexican judge has ordered immediate release.

58 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:06:35pm

We’re past the official city hours for trick or treat. Any kids who arrive now are rebels, scofflaws, and hopeless Snickers addicts.

59 lawhawk  Oct 31, 2014 6:08:23pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

This is what steal the vote looks like:

Youtube Video

What these nitwits are yammering about is fat fingered idiocy.

60 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 31, 2014 6:10:38pm

re: #53 klystron

Yep. 5:30 to 8 here. I’m pretty much out. Had a steady stream the whole way.

I just turned off the front porch light & I’m going to finish Shaun of the Dead and go from there. It’s been a good night.

61 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:14:21pm

re: #52 Vogon Poetry

We’ve had but one person come by trick or treating since we got home. Either everyone tried to get us before we got home from work, or everyone skipped our block.

Either way, we’ve got leftover candy. At least it’s the chocolate variety. Wont buy anything I wouldn’t eat otherwise.

It’s gone silent for the last 45 min or so.

And as soon as I type that, someone rings the doorbell.

62 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 6:18:03pm

When I was a kid, our parents weren’t scared to let us go out alone on Halloween, and they weren’t afraid of what someone might give us.

I always feel a little sad on Halloween because it’s more for the adults and their costume parties now than for the kids, because we can’t trust our neighbors any more.

63 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:20:16pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

When I was a kid, our parents weren’t scared to let us go out alone on Halloween, and they weren’t afraid of what someone might give us.

I always feel a little sad on Halloween because it’s more for the adults and their costume parties now than for the kids, because we can’t trust our neighbors any more.

We live in a good neighborhood. We have good people. Not everybody can have that, though, and it’s sad. I want my kids to grow up how I did - sure, my parents warned us every year about needles in the candy, but they hosted parties and we had fun. Fishspawn have been enjoying Halloween, and I want them to keep that.

64 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Oct 31, 2014 6:21:23pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Rhetorical question but must he always be a pathetic dick?

I think that if CCJ ever tweeted something not offensively dickish, my jaw would hit the floor so hard I’d lose several teeth.

65 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:21:45pm

re: #61 theEbolafishlives

It’s gone silent for the last 45 min or so.

And as soon as I type that, someone rings the doorbell.

We’ll turn off the porch light around 8:30 or so. I start writing at midnight, and there is a trip to an unknown (to me) destination tomorrow.

But I had the first group come through, and hearing a few more out and about.

66 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:22:05pm

re: #64 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I think that if CCJ ever tweeted something not offensively dickish, my jaw would hit the floor so hard I’d lose several teeth.

He’s trying hard to cement his ‘brand’.

67 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:24:18pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

The plague of “sexy <insert costume here>” really does kinda bug me, though. I get giving people sexy options for those who want to cut loose and be someone other than themselves, but women who don’t want to do that should also have the option.

68 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 31, 2014 6:24:28pm

Woo hoo! Finally got the nerve to put up my first LGF page.

69 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 31, 2014 6:24:51pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Not here. I grew up free as bird on Halloween. Friends of mine would get ‘mugged’ for their candy from the local dipshits.

Now-a-days the parents do accompany the kids, but as long as the lights are on it’s usually a mob of little ones approaching the door. The parents stay back and watch,

Unless you’re known for filling a beer mug or two, then they’re right there at the door.

70 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:25:15pm

re: #53 klystron

I’m finally hearing the first ones out in the neighborhood. The bulk of the activity here is definitely between 6 and 8pm and we’re just getting into that stretch.

It’ll be interesting to see how much the rain affects things.

nada so far

71 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:25:46pm

re: #65 klystron

We’ll turn off the porch light around 8:30 or so. I start writing at midnight, and there is a trip to an unknown (to me) destination tomorrow.

But I had the first group come through, and hearing a few more out and about.

I will have the lights off around 9:00. It’s doubtful any more will come through; the temperature is dropping steadily.

72 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:25:56pm

re: #65 klystron

We’ll turn off the porch light around 8:30 or so. I start writing at midnight, and there is a trip to an unknown (to me) destination tomorrow.

But I had the first group come through, and hearing a few more out and about.

We might get another batch or two—used up 2/3 of the candy, a cubic foot or so. We had 75-100 kids, very good considering the rabid preachers almost wiped out our Halloween a decade ago.

73 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 31, 2014 6:26:52pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

When I was a kid, our parents weren’t scared to let us go out alone on Halloween, and they weren’t afraid of what someone might give us.

I always feel a little sad on Halloween because it’s more for the adults and their costume parties now than for the kids, because we can’t trust our neighbors any more.

When I was a kid we had to make our own candy out of leftover onions.

/Old Guy

74 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:27:33pm

re: #73 Higgs Boson’s Mate

When I was a kid we had to make our own candy out of leftover onions.

/Old Guy

You had onions?

75 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:27:50pm

re: #57 blueraven

The Marine jailed in Mexico will be released. Mexican judge has ordered immediate release.

wheeeee he can now terrorize us with his guns.

Gah, get him help, pronto.

76 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:29:00pm

re: #67 theEbolafishlives

The plague of “sexy <insert costume here>” really does kinda bug me, though. I get giving people sexy options for those who want to cut loose and be someone other than themselves, but women who don’t want to do that should also have the option.

I am wearing the oversized pink floral flannel nightgown my husband bought several years ago for a Harry Potter costume.

I figure I can be comfortable and in the spirit of the holiday (and this is the only day of the year I would let anyone other than my husband see me in it).

77 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 6:29:05pm

re: #75 Stanley Seabola

wheeeee he can now terrorize us with his guns.

Gah, get him help, pronto.

Still has to deal with the Marine Corps. He’ll never be point man again.

78 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Oct 31, 2014 6:30:05pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

The kids those days. *shakes head and sighs*

79 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:30:49pm

re: #76 klystron

I am wearing the oversized pink floral flannel nightgown my husband bought several years ago for a Harry Potter costume.

I figure I can be comfortable and in the spirit of the holiday (and this is the only day of the year I would let anyone other than my husband see me in it).

Mrs. Fish put on a tasteful black outfit and fairy wings with sparkly makeup. She was radiant and beautiful.

80 EbolaSpotinAL  Oct 31, 2014 6:30:55pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

What a racist scumbag.

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And a dumbass. Giving them 3/5 more would be like counting them as 8/5 a person. Yeah, that is just exactly like things used to be.

81 Lidane  Oct 31, 2014 6:32:16pm

re: #57 blueraven

The Marine jailed in Mexico will be released. Mexican judge has ordered immediate release.

The usual suspects are braying like hyenas over it, too.

OBUMMER LET HIM ROT UNTIL THE MIDTERMS! is just the beginning of their stupidity.

82 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:35:27pm

re: #79 theEbolafishlives

Mrs. Fish put on a tasteful black outfit and fairy wings with sparkly makeup. She was radiant and beautiful.

My husband will probably say that about this outfit but I think he’s the only one.

That’s why I married him though. :D

83 prairiefire  Oct 31, 2014 6:37:51pm

re: #70 Stanley Seabola

nada so far

Nada here, too. And I’ve got jelly centered marshmallow eyeballs.

84 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:38:36pm

re: #83 prairiefire

Nada here, too. And I’ve got jelly centered marshmallow eyeballs.

Those both sound great and would have the added bonus of seriously freaking my husband out.

Best costume so far was the one year old being carried by mom in a parrot costume.

85 prairiefire  Oct 31, 2014 6:40:52pm

re: #84 klystron

Hee, I mean packaged individual eyeball candy!

86 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:40:57pm

re: #83 prairiefire

Nada here, too. And I’ve got jelly centered marshmallow eyeballs.

damn

87 prairiefire  Oct 31, 2014 6:42:18pm

re: #86 Stanley Seabola

damn

I know.

88 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:43:35pm

Just had an adorable little ballerina bunny.

Elsa count is 0 though.

89 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:43:56pm

re: #88 klystron

Just had an adorable little ballerina bunny.

Elsa count is 0 though.

Same here. I am disappoint.

90 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:44:18pm

re: #89 theEbolafishlives

Same here. I am disappoint.

It is still early here! I am holding out hope!

91 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:44:19pm

re: #88 klystron

Just had an adorable little ballerina bunny.

Elsa count is 0 though.

I take that back. Mrs. Fish (who took over when she returned with the fishspawn) says she has seen 2 Elsas.

92 jaunte  Oct 31, 2014 6:45:07pm
93 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:48:13pm

I just ate a reese’s. FUCK

94 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:48:40pm

re: #93 Stanley Seabola

I just ate a reese’s. FUCK

Please don’t tell me that “FUCK” means you have a peanut allergy…

95 ausador  Oct 31, 2014 6:48:42pm

So twitter sent my email a flood of duplicate notifications, over 4400 of them and filled my inbox. They then suspended my account because mail started bouncing back and they decided that meant my email address wasn’t valid. Sigh…

Five hours later everything is finally fixed, had to create another email account just to link it to twitter and verify it so I could then change it back to the old account and verify that one. (after cleaning it out)

All email from twitter is now turned off completely…

96 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:49:25pm

re: #94 theEbolafishlives

Please don’t tell me that “FUCK” means you have a peanut allergy…

I’m gonna guess here it’s the beginning of the end of being good and not eating the candy.

97 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:50:07pm

re: #96 klystron

I’m gonna guess here it’s the beginning of the end of being good and not eating the candy.

Phew. Okay. I just don’t want to have to be calling hospitals for random strangers on the Internet.

98 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:52:23pm

re: #94 theEbolafishlives

Please don’t tell me that “FUCK” means you have a peanut allergy…

I have a weight gain allergy. Totally got off of sweets, been happy. THANKS HALLOWEEN!!!!!

99 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:54:25pm

re: #97 theEbolafishlives

Phew. Okay. I just don’t want to have to be calling hospitals for random strangers on the Internet.

HALP Mr. Fish, Im dying somewhere in San Diego.

HALP NOW

100 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 6:55:26pm

re: #99 Stanley Seabola

HALP Mr. Fish, Im dying somewhere in San Diego.

HALP NOW

‘cuse me, I think you dropped your sarc tags.

I found them here.

/////

101 theEbolafishlives  Oct 31, 2014 6:55:28pm

re: #99 Stanley Seabola

HALP Mr. Fish, Im dying somewhere in San Diego.

HALP NOW

You’re not dying, it’s just the sugar rush. You’ll sleep it off.

102 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 6:56:23pm

Gonna bag it up for my ex sister in law’s kids.

In like 10 minutes. Its dark, no visitors.

103 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:00:24pm

Just had a decent crowd which included some older boys actually making an effort to dress up.

Elsa count still 0.

104 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:01:02pm

Despite Chuckles’ discovery of my tweet-sourced dossier on him, my website has not been deluged with craploads of comments from his faithful fans. I suppose if he had complained about it, his minions would have swamped my host’s servers.

Maybe I’m too gentle with him.

Haven’t checked Teh Twiturz yet.

105 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 7:05:46pm

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Despite Chuckles’ discovery of my tweet-sourced dossier on him, my website has not been deluged with craploads of comments from his faithful fans. I suppose if he had complained about it, his minions would have swamped my host’s servers.

Maybe I’m too gentle with him.

Haven’t checked Teh Twiturz yet.

maybe his faithful fan count is zero

106 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:07:20pm

re: #105 Stanley Seabola

maybe his faithful fan count is zero

I should tell him. /

107 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 7:09:53pm

FYI The World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party

en.wikipedia.org

Sat, Nov 1 UF v. Georgia *
Jacksonville, FL
3:30 pm CBS
Gator Sports Network
Sirius:119
XM:190
cbssports.com
GatorVision

108 ausador  Oct 31, 2014 7:12:50pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I should tell him. /

Look at how few comments his gotnews stories get, the only time he gets more than 2-3 comments are when people are pissed off at him and leave complaints there.

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:18:11pm

re: #11 Timothy Watson

OT:

gamepolitics.com

Watch out…deadmaus will stealth downding you like he did everyone downstairs earlier today.

110 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:19:41pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watch out…deadmaus will stealth downding you like he did everyone downstairs earlier today.

But, but, but, he likes Chris Christie!

111 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 7:20:39pm

No Halloween here at my condo complex. What a waste.

112 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:21:46pm

re: #111 Stanley Seabola

No Halloween here at my condo complex. What a waste.

Bummer. I was really hoping you might get some once things pick up in the 6-8 range. :(

I would say I’ve seen fewer this year than previous? But the rain is probably attributable, and the houses here are a little more spread out than some other places.

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:23:57pm

re: #25 Stanley Seabola

It is not dark here yet.

Going on 10:30 p.m. here.
No one has shown up.

ALL THE TREATS ARE MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

114 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:25:03pm

Here’s a costume for Stanley Sea:

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:25:30pm

re: #31 Stanley Seabola

I’ve just got snickers and reeses. Old school. Next year I will do better.

I’ve got kitkats and reeses.

I know what I like…

116 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 7:25:40pm

So next year I won’t buy candy and get bombarded by 50 little people.

Thanks Obama.

117 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:26:20pm

Cat-in-the-Hat and …probably Maleficent? just came by.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:27:03pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

We did a last-minute buy of foil-wrapped eyeballs for backup. They were popular. Still have half a bowl, then we break out the raisins.

Raisins…that’s the “trick” part…

119 Lidane  Oct 31, 2014 7:27:32pm
120 Mattand  Oct 31, 2014 7:27:47pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got kitkats and reeses.

I know what I like…

LOL, that’s exactly what we have here.

121 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:27:50pm

I hear more groups looming outside.

122 Sionainn  Oct 31, 2014 7:28:06pm

We have had sporadic trick-or-treaters. After only an hour, my girls came back with their pumpkins completely full! We just put the bowl out on a chair with a sign telling the kids to pick two pieces. Too lazy now to hand it out myself. LOL.

123 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:30:37pm

Elsa count still zero.

One nice Harry Potter robes, a pretty fantastic mad scientist type I feel like I was supposed to recognize, Steve Urkel (!), the ubiquitous scream mask…

124 Lidane  Oct 31, 2014 7:32:11pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Raisins…that’s the “trick” part…

They’re better for kids than sugary sweets.

/busybody neighbor

125 b_sharp  Oct 31, 2014 7:34:13pm

The RWNJs are trying to win the next election by scaring people into voting conservative.

I’ll bet it works.

126 HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2014 7:35:27pm

re: #125 Dead Tired

The RWNJs are trying to win the next election by scaring people into voting conservative.

I’ll bet it works.

If you can’t get them with the issues, scare the crap outta them. See Republican victories in 2002 and 2004.

127 bratwurst  Oct 31, 2014 7:36:01pm
128 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:37:49pm

Ok, the 3 year old mutant ninja turtle in a tutu kind of won all sorts of adorable points.

129 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:38:52pm

re: #108 ausador

Look at how few comments his gotnews stories get, the only time he gets more than 2-3 comments are when people are pissed off at him and leave complaints there.

I have engaged the enemy.

130 HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2014 7:39:36pm

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I have engaged the enemy.

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He knows a thing or two about being obsessed.

131 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:41:04pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

He knows a thing or two about being obsessed.

I think I pulled a Colbert on him. He read the page as extolling him, I think.

132 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 7:42:39pm


“This dog is for top salesmen! Only closers get to pet this dog!”

133 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 7:43:49pm

re: #124 Lidane

They’re better for kids than sugary sweets.

/busybody neighbor

They’re better for me if I get stuck with them.*

*No kids were raisined in the making of this Halloween.

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:44:14pm

re: #103 klystron

Just had a decent crowd which included some older boys actually making an effort to dress up.

Elsa count still 0.

I’d give major points to an older boy making an effort to dress up as Elsa.

MAJOR points.

135 Sionainn  Oct 31, 2014 7:44:18pm

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I have engaged the enemy.

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I just read your page. Frickin’ full of awesome!

136 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:45:23pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d give major points to an older boy making an effort to dress up as Elsa.

MAJOR points.

Oh, absolutely.

Sadly, they were all on a (thankfully non-sparkly) vampire theme.

Elsa count is still 0. Iron Man is at 1 though, and a non-trivial number of ninjas have passed through. Still on the first bag of candy but barely. The second may get cracked open soon.

137 ausador  Oct 31, 2014 7:45:51pm

Been watching the “Hornblower” series again, on Youtube of all places.

I really liked the mini-series when it first came out, mainly because they stuck to the books and didn’t ruin it by trying to add too much drama. I only wish they had made more of them, the eight episodes only really cover what was in the first three books.

Playlist if anyone else is interested…
youtube.com

138 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:47:01pm

re: #135 Sionainn

I just read your page. Frickin’ full of awesome!

Thanks. But really I should give credit to the source, who provides us with so much fodder to ridicule.

139 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 7:48:26pm

I just had Ana and …Rapunzel.

Elsa count still 0.

140 BeachDem  Oct 31, 2014 7:53:13pm

Had no trick or treaters. Where I used to live, the people next door had a very elaborate haunted house, so we had tons of kids. Here—nada. Oh well, the candy won’t go to waste.

On another note—last night I mentioned a spot our SoS candidate had put up with Jenny Sanford (MarkyMark’s ex) called “Jenny Sanford Opens Up About Mark.”

When I first saw it, less than 24 hours ago, it had 200 views—it now has 9,275! Don’t know how much it will help Ginny’s campaign, but it is fun.

Youtube Video

141 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 7:53:18pm

Best costumes sighted tonight, in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn: A mother and her daughter dressed as Day of The Dead skeletons. Their make-up and costumes were immaculately detailed.

Honorable mention, sighted in Tribeca: a guy six and a half feet tall dressed as a penguin. Nice waddle, dude!

142 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Oct 31, 2014 7:54:51pm

I just ate a snickers. doom.

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 31, 2014 7:55:18pm

re: #142 Stanley Seabola

I just ate a snickers. doom.

I just opened up the bag of mini reese’s…

144 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 7:55:19pm

Dig wheatdogg, bringin’ it to Chuck C. Johnson. Go ahead on, wheatdogg.

145 BeachDem  Oct 31, 2014 7:55:35pm

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-bola

In case you missed it, another bit of trivia for the list—he used to be Deval Patrick’s neighbor, and says Patrick only gave out good candy during election years.

146 Decatur Deb  Oct 31, 2014 7:57:33pm

re: #141 De Kolta Chair

Best costumes sighted tonight, in Brooklyn: A mother and her daughter dressed as Day of The Dead skeletons. Their make-up and costumes were immaculately detailed.

Honorable mention, sighted in Tribeca: a guy six and a half feet tall dressed as a penguin. Nice waddle, dude!

Best costume of the week was yesterday. My candidate dropped by on the way to her daughter’s school function dressed (expensively) as a Starfleet commander.

147 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 7:57:59pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

This is fun. It’s so easy to get a rise out of him.

re: #145 BeachDem

In case you missed it, another bit of trivia for the list—he used to be Deval Patrick’s neighbor, and says Patrick only gave out good candy during election years.

I saw that. It’ll be added.

148 BeachDem  Oct 31, 2014 8:00:01pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Dig wheatdogg, bringin’ it to Chuck C. Johnson. Go ahead on, wheatdogg.

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My favorite part of that thread:

149 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:00:22pm
150 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 8:00:38pm

151 BeachDem  Oct 31, 2014 8:04:30pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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Funny, I don’t recall W&B crowd-sourcing their research on Twitter…or begging for legal representation…or asking people to let them sleep on their couches while they chased big stories.

Upchuck’s just like a real journalist, except for the real part…and the journalist part.

152 blueraven  Oct 31, 2014 8:04:34pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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He is so the opposite of W&B.
They worked hard to check every single source.
Chucky conjures up sources in his fevered brain.

153 freetoken  Oct 31, 2014 8:04:55pm

Internet has been slow all day …. must be the Moloch worshippers streaming their ceremonies.

154 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:07:36pm

How do I capture an entire conversation in Twitter? I want to preserve my exchange with CCJ for posterity.

155 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 8:10:29pm


One of my very favorite Charles Addams cartoons (it’s so hard to choose)

156 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:11:07pm

Srsly, for a guy with an IQ of 150, CCJ sure is dense. Maybe there’s some truth to his self-admitted autism.

157 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 8:13:12pm

re: #154 wheat-dogghazi-bola

How do I capture an entire conversation in Twitter? I want to preserve my exchange with CCJ for posterity.

Best way is to create your own collection at Tweetdeck. I would do it for you but UpChuck blocked me so I can’t add his tweets to a collection and I’m too lazy to create a throwaway Twitter account to make it happen.

158 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:13:35pm

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Not dense, dishonest. Seriously. This is a guy who has lied his way through life.

159 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 8:13:54pm

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Srsly, for a guy with an IQ of 150, CCJ sure is dense. Maybe there’s some truth to his self-admitted autism sociopathy.

FTFY

160 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:14:15pm

I have a feeling Chuck just blocked wheatdogg too.

161 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:14:52pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

Best way is to create your own collection at Tweetdeck. I would do it for you but UpChuck blocked me so I can’t add his tweets to a collection and I’m too lazy to create a throwaway Twitter account to make it happen.

Thx. Trying it now.

162 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 8:15:40pm


Halloween without Hitch? Unthinkable!

163 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:16:12pm

It’s tempting to think it, but Chuck’s not stupid. He’s a calculating sociopath, using lies to advance his career because he knows the right wing wing base eats it up.

164 jaunte  Oct 31, 2014 8:16:45pm

re: #162 De Kolta Chair

Marche funèbre d’une marionnette
Youtube Video

165 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 8:17:00pm

re: #155 De Kolta Chair

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One of my very favorite Charles Addams cartoons

I’ve always adored this one.

166 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:17:18pm

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi-bola

If Chuck blocked you, you won’t be able to add his tweets to a collection.

167 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 8:17:48pm
168 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 8:18:40pm

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Thx. Trying it now.

You could always open up a word processor and copy pasta all the URLs.

;-P

169 De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2014 8:19:21pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

I’ve always adored this one.

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A masterpiece!

170 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:20:51pm
171 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:23:15pm
172 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 8:26:23pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

Jumping fucking shitballs UpChuck is such a fucking piece of work.

173 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:29:05pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

If Chuck blocked you, you won’t be able to add his tweets to a collection.

I haz a sad.

But I screencapped most of the exchange.

174 bratwurst  Oct 31, 2014 8:29:11pm

I still can’t get over the collective right wing response to the catcall video. The same people who are desperate to convince everyone there is no GOP war on women also want everyone to know they believe women should be ok with being harassed in public. WTF?

175 klystron  Oct 31, 2014 8:34:49pm

Elsa count still zero. We’re getting close to shutting down the porch lights here at Chez Klys and giving the kitties a break from the doorbell. (Kids, ringing it five times only decreases how much candy I will give you.)

176 EbolaSpotinAL  Oct 31, 2014 8:39:20pm

Wife answers door, trick or treater kids and a Husky is with them. She opens door, dog runs into house. Wife grabs collar, it slips outs. She uses dog treats to lure it out and put collar back on. Kids wondering why they did not get candy during all this. Turns out it was not their dog, the Husky was just walkin around with random families.

177 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:39:32pm
178 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:42:23pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

If Chuck blocked you, you won’t be able to add his tweets to a collection.

Do I have to add replies, etc. one by one? There’s no quick&dirty way to capture an entire conversation at once?

179 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:45:04pm

Ooh, Dale gets in the act.

180 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 8:46:36pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Do I have to add replies, etc. one by one? There’s no quick&dirty way to capture an entire conversation at once?

Nm. I forgot about Storify.

181 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:47:09pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-bola

You can try a search like this:

from:chuckcjohnson AND from:liguy743

182 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 8:53:34pm

I always have to laugh when people say assholish things on Twitter, then complain because they get blocked. Here’s a clue: don’t act like an asshole and you won’t get blocked.

183 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 9:07:49pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

You can try a search like this:

from:chuckcjohnson AND from:liguy743

With Tweetdeck or Storify?

184 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 9:35:23pm

I used ChirpStory. The process was more intuitive for me - click and drag.

185 Jenner7  Oct 31, 2014 9:41:37pm

My kids counted 40 Elsa’s at school today.

We got about 10 kids tonight. We have tons of candy. Tons.

Happy Halloween!!

186 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 9:45:09pm

Evening lizards!

My kids got to trick-or-treat in a neighborhood full of nice houses on postage stamp yards close together for the first time. When we lived in Virginia my wife always drove them to a few houses of people we know. We lived in the mountains so there were no subdivions close by. They had a blast even though it was cold and windy.

187 SteveMcGazi  Oct 31, 2014 9:54:27pm

We’re all gonna die!

news.yahoo.com

It was the subject of a thank you note on Jimmy Fallon tonight.

188 Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2014 9:58:46pm

McInnes is an outright racist who writes for the white nationalist site Takimag.

189 Cheechako  Oct 31, 2014 10:02:12pm

Well the rain didn’t slow down the trick or treaters. So far a total of 54 and still counting for another half hour. Fortunately, the heavy rain came in half hour segments. When the rain stopped the kids were out in force. Do Elsa’s have to be dressed in blue? None in blue but 3-4 in similar outfits but different colors. Also noticed several older kids had well thought out costumes. Noticed one oddity. We left the main door open and the storm door closed. One kid, by himself, just came to the door, opened the storm door, came in and helped himself to the candy in the bowl without knocking or ringing the bell. My wife was astonished!

190 SteveMcGazi  Oct 31, 2014 10:02:19pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

What would prompt him to say that out of the blue? Was there something else going on at the time that Chuck felt he had to bear witness?

191 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 10:05:53pm
192 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 10:15:15pm

The skiing in Pakistan and Afghanistan is unprecedented by any skier’s measure. But we can’t go because of religious fundamentalism.

One of the main reasons I’m a “none” to a pollster asking about religion.

193 Belafon  Oct 31, 2014 10:27:15pm

By Chucky’s standards, I’m an award winning mathematician. It’s odd, that doesn’t cause me to want to become racist or misogynist.

194 Ace-o-aces  Oct 31, 2014 10:44:00pm

re: #148 BeachDem

195 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 10:46:24pm
196 Ace-o-aces  Oct 31, 2014 10:47:24pm

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Srsly, for a guy with an IQ of 150, CCJ sure is dense. Maybe there’s some truth to his self-admitted autism.

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Sorry, but all the autistic people I know have a sense of ethics and morality. CCJ is just an asshole.

197 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 10:47:51pm

re: #194 Ace-o-aces

And he drove a BMW once! The Stig better watch out.

198 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 10:48:32pm

re: #196 Ace-o-aces

Sorry, but all the autistic people I know have a sense of ethics and morality. CCJ is just an asshole.

QFT.

199 Varek Raith  Oct 31, 2014 10:51:14pm

Candy!

200 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 10:59:01pm
201 Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2014 11:00:23pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Candy!
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Give her everything you have. And if you don’t have anything, then run…for all the good that it will do you.

202 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 11:12:42pm
203 NJDhockeyfan  Oct 31, 2014 11:19:09pm
204 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Oct 31, 2014 11:23:00pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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McInnes is an outright racist who writes for the white nationalist site Takimag.

And Anthony Cumia’s best pal too.

205 Varek Raith  Oct 31, 2014 11:31:21pm

206 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Oct 31, 2014 11:33:12pm

re: #203 NJDhockeyfan

I always wonder why people feel the need to gild the lily. What he said was bad enough to report the truth.

Compare what he said:

“We already have six blacks, what, do you want the seventh for me?”

with what is reported in the “translation”:

“enough dark-skinned players, we’ve got six of the things” .

207 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Oct 31, 2014 11:38:46pm

re: #206 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

And here’s Guardian: “FC Rostov coach: I don’t want any black players in case Ebola spreads”. Except the Ebola joke preceded the discussion of the black players and wasn’t related to it.

208 teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2014 11:46:40pm

re: #205 Varek Raith

TOO SOON!!!

/

209 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 11:48:11pm

re: #207 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

And here’s Guardian: “FC Rostov coach: I don’t want any black players in case Ebola spreads”. Except the Ebola joke preceded the discussion of the black players and wasn’t related to it.

I tell my students that translation and interpretation are both art and science, and must be done carefully to avoid misinterpretation by the other party. There are times when a literal translation suits the occasion, and others when paraphrasing is better. I’d have used a more literal translation of the coach’s remarks here, because it captures his meaning better.

210 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Oct 31, 2014 11:54:13pm

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Casual racism is bad on its own, and although it is very widespread in Russia, quite a lot of Russian sport news sources are reporting on Gamula’s remark, which is a good thing.

Turning a casually racist coach into a full-blown Klansman through false reporting of his already racist words (claiming that he referred to black players as “things” or in any way connected them to Ebola) is bad journalism.

211 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Oct 31, 2014 11:55:18pm

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Casual racism is bad on its own, and although it is very widespread in Russia, quite a lot of Russian sport news sources are reporting on Gamula’s remark, which is a good thing.

Turning a casually racist coach into a full-blown Klansman through false reporting of his already racist words is bad journalism.

Probably there are fewer blacks in Russia than in China.

212 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Oct 31, 2014 11:57:08pm

re: #211 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Probably there are fewer blacks in Russia than in China.

I would guess it’s the other way around, but I don’t have stats.

213 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 12:00:53am

re: #212 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I would guess it’s the other way around, but I don’t have stats.

Nor do I, but several thousand Africans live in Guangdong province, mostly in Guangzhou, where there’s a “Little Africa” part of town. They live by buying cheap products in China, and selling them at mark-up back home. Others work as English teachers. But Chinese don’t know what to make of them. They figure all of Africa still lives in the hunter-gatherer stage.

214 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 12:03:37am

Sheesh. In case I miss any, any down dings tonight are phone ui related.

215 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 12:07:23am

re: #213 wheat-dogghazi-bola

In Russia there are no such concentrated “settlements”, it’s mostly African students or children of interracial marriages, who in the whole Russia would amount to several tens of thousands (officially around 10,000 in Moscow alone, not counting the “illegals”), so I guess you may be right.

217 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 12:19:44am

re: #214 William Barnett-Lewis

Sheesh. In case I miss any, any down dings tonight are phone ui related.

Does that include this one?!?

littlegreenfootballs.com

218 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 12:24:52am

re: #217 teleskiguy

Probably. I have a hard time with this site and my phone sometimes.

219 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 12:26:39am

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Probably. I have a hard time with this site and my phone sometimes.

FAT FINGERS!

220 Varek Raith  Nov 1, 2014 12:36:43am

FFS, I can’t even escape RW trolls in Star Trek Online.
:/

221 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 12:41:38am

Internationalism was a matter of official Soviet ideology. Such powerful anti-racist statements like the final scene of Circus (1936) were what the Soviets were growing up with. Yet the Soviet way of “teaching” internationalism was a giant failure, with people paying lip service to it like they did with Lenin’s teachings, but not taking it all too seriously. This in turn led to the problems with nationalism that Russia has today.

PS: in that scene you can see Solomon Mikhoels singing to little Patterson in Yiddish. In 1948 the antisemitic paranoiac Stalin had him murdered. So much for Soviet internationalism.

222 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 1:36:50am

re: #181 Charles Johnson

You can try a search like this:

from:chuckcjohnson AND from:liguy743

OK. I got Storify sussed out. Here are the results.
Obsessed and wrong? You be the judge

Also, my post on the matter.

223 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 2:20:12am

It is 4:17 AM local time, and I’m still up. Funny part, I’m not really the least bit tired. I think I’m going to go in and try and crash out, or just do slow breathing exercises and hope I doze off.

This is just too weird. I’m usually good till about 10pm or so at the latest most nights. (and no, nothing different in my food or drink that would account for this)

See you all later.

RBS

224 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 2:22:13am

Youtube Video

225 Viscous Obama  Nov 1, 2014 2:57:45am

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS, PROUD RIGHT WINGER GLENN WALKER MCNAUGHTON HERE. I SAVOR YOUR IMPOTENT, MEWLING CRIES AND WILL PROUDLY BE CASTING A VOTE AGAINST THE ARCH DICTATOR OBUMMER THIS TUESDAY. YOUR TEARS ARE DELICIOUS AND MAKE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THIS THREE OLIVE MARTINI I AM DRINKING.

226 Varek Raith  Nov 1, 2014 3:04:17am

re: #225 Viscous Obama

*Poke*
I think we’ll just leave him on the floor.
/

227 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 4:05:23am

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I’ll say this again. Autism doesn’t create assholes. Yes there are people with autism who are assholes. But they would have been assholes anyway without the autism. If anything, every autistic person I’ve ever met is more empathetic to other people, not less. It’s just the communication and social skills aren’t there to express it they way others do. More than a few people use the excuse of “being on the spectrum” to pardon their bullshit. We have to stop letting them get away with it.

People on the spectrum have a tough enough time dealing with stereotypes like this one, can we stop perpetuating those? My son is suffering as a direct result of these sort of misconceptions, it’s difficult and heartbreaking. He’s not retarded, not without empathy, not blind to the needs of others. If anything he’s so starved for approval he’ll put up with more shit from people than is healthy. Predatory assholes like CCJ are the kind of people that have made my kid’s life hell, he doesn’t get to use autism as an excuse for that too. Fuck him.

228 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 4:18:52am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

I retracted my comment above, but I’ll do it again here. And I won’t refer to CCJ’s supposed autism again.

229 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 4:30:38am

Woke up because I was chilled, and discovered I left the window open… and cold air was blowing in.

Not only that, but there is water falling from the sky.

How novel. I wonder what I’ll call it.

230 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 4:37:26am

MP3 Audio

231 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 4:43:12am

re: #229 freetoken

Woke up because I was chilled, and discovered I left the window open… and cold air was blowing in.

Not only that, but there is water falling from the sky.

How novel. I wonder what I’ll call it.

Call it Ishmael.

232 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 5:39:12am

re: #228 wheat-dogghazi-bola

(((hugs))) and thank you. It’s been a rough couple of years for my kid, not that it’s ever been easy. I know I’m probably over sensitive, but I’ve also spent a lot of years being a fierce advocate. So thank you, A LOT for being sensitive and respectful. It matters.

233 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 5:50:25am

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel

No, Chuck, this does not rise to the level of bad citizen. You’re just a plain, low-grade asshole.

Now, don’t sell him short. I think he is one of the highest grade assholes I have come across in a while. Possibly PhD material.

234 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 6:01:08am

Well, just got home from work a bit late because the lady who relieved me this morning was at the hospital. Not for herself but because the roommate of another co-worker of ours apparently doesn’t understand that only yes means yes or that passed out drunk is not a yes. Thoughts, wishes & prayers for her today, if you would, lizards.

This nation’s pretense of a culture really pisses me off at times like this.

235 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 6:47:25am

This one cracked me because I can see it happening to me.

236 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 1, 2014 6:51:15am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-bola

OK. I got Storify sussed out. Here are the results.
Obsessed and wrong? You be the judge

Also, my post on the matter.

Nina Pham is not a DWB nurse. She’s a nurse at Dallas Health Presbyterian.

Also your Storify lnk is broken: extra characters “br” at the end.

237 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 7:01:13am

re: #236 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Nina Pham is not a DWB nurse. She’s a nurse at Dallas Health Presbyterian.

Also your Storify lnk is broken: extra characters “br” at the end.

Ah, thanks. I’ll fix the Nina Pham reference. And here’s the Storify link again:
storify.com

238 Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2014 7:07:44am

Teacher suspended for alleged racist remarks

“It is very disturbing,” said parent Kimberley Ashcraft.

Ashcraft told 10 On Your Side the disturbing incident happened a couple weeks ago. Her daughter told her about the conversation with math teacher Cynthia Ramsey.

“That’s when she conveyed to me that Mrs. Ramsey had indicated that if she only had 10 days to live that she would kill all black people,” Ashcraft told wavy.com.

Ashcraft’s daughter was in Ramsey’s classroom eating lunch. Ashcraft said there were several others students around when Ramsey allegedly made the racist remarks.

239 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 7:10:30am

re: #238 Amory Blaine

North Carolina.

240 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 7:14:38am

OK, I didn’t see this one before.

dailymotion.com

241 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 7:17:51am

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. So last night was a success - 54 visitors on a bitterly cold Halloween night. How go things among the lizardfolk after the Elsa drinking games?

242 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 7:22:04am

re: #241 theEbolafishlives

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. So last night was a success - 54 visitors on a bitterly cold Halloween night. How go things among the lizardfolk after the Elsa drinking games?

Cold/allergy attack triggered yesterday so I stayed home in bed and skipped Halloween-ing festivities.* Today has dawned cool, rainy, and the sound of large pounding jackhammers.**

* - Which is usually just a small party in the lobby of the apartment building. No trick-or-treaters. Am also skipping the costume party I was invited to that is being held tonight.

** - In this case the jackhammers are not in my head. They work Saturdays on the construction sight nearby - and they’re about 40-45’ down now and have a nice echo chamber.

243 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 1, 2014 7:23:35am
244 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 7:25:05am

re: #242 Feline Fearless Leader

Cold/allergy attack triggered yesterday so I stayed home in bed and skipped Halloween-ing festivities.* Today has dawned cool, rainy, and the sound of large pounding jackhammers.**

* - Which is usually just a small party in the lobby of the apartment building. No trick-or-treaters. Am also skipping the costume party I was invited to that is being held tonight.

** - In this case the jackhammers are not in my head. They work Saturdays on the construction sight nearby - and they’re about 40-45’ down now and have a nice echo chamber.

Mrs. Fish led the fishspawn on their quest for sugary treats, while I stayed behind and manned the gates against the hordes of tiny costumed invaders. It actually worked out pretty well for all parties involved.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 7:27:14am

re: #244 theEbolafishlives

Mrs. Fish led the fishspawn on their quest for sugary treats, while I stayed behind and manned the gates against the hordes of tiny costumed invaders. It actually worked out pretty well for all parties involved.

Only treats being consumed here are tuna-flavored ones. Preferred by the Feline Overlords.

246 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 7:43:33am

re: #243 NJDhockeyfan

He now claims those were blanks. Not man enough to own up to his own deeds. Always played “heroes” on TV, a total coward in real life.

247 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2014 7:47:45am

The Tripe contest we’ve really been waiting for:

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2014 7:49:09am
249 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 7:55:07am

re: #246 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He now claims those were blanks. Not man enough to own up to his own deeds. Always played “heroes” on TV, a total coward in real life.

BS. Zoom into the lower left corner, those are live rounds. Plus the idea that combat forces would have blanks, mount the blank adapter that is needed is so laughable that it fall into full upChuck territory.

250 Kilroy01  Nov 1, 2014 7:55:42am

re: #243 NJDhockeyfan
From the article

Porechenkov then told the state-backed news agency the video was “staged”, the bullets used were dummies and that he wore the controversial press helmet because there was no other protective helmet to hand.

Not a training round

251 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 7:57:02am

The playbook was the same 70 years ago:

70 Years Ago Today

GOP Presidential nominee Thomas Dewey declares that if Roosevelt is reelected, Communists will try to seize control of the Federal Government, and if they succeed, fundamental American freedoms, particularly freedom of religion, will be endangered.

252 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 7:57:16am

re: #250 Kilroy01

From the article

[Embedded image]Not a training round

Whoopsy. That’ll leave a mark.

253 Kilroy01  Nov 1, 2014 7:57:20am

re: #249 RealityBasedEbola

Beat me by 30 seconds.

Now why can’t the real journalists do the same basic observations?

254 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 7:57:51am

re: #249 RealityBasedEbola

Of course BS. There’s a footage of certain insiders confirming that he shot at the Ukrainian positions.

255 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 7:58:31am

re: #253 Kilroy01

Beat me by 30 seconds.

Now why can’t the real journalists do the same basic observations?

Because people like UpChuck and Dim Jim Hoft are the “next wave” of journalism. Long story short: We’re doomed.

256 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 7:59:04am

257 Kilroy01  Nov 1, 2014 7:59:50am

re: #255 theEbolafishlives

I was thinking of Newsweek. But I see your point.

258 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 8:00:37am

re: #257 Kilroy01

I was thinking of Newsweek. But I see your point.

Well, my point is that people LIKE UpChuck and Dim Jim are going to start moving into legitimate journalism outlets like Newsweek. They’re the new trend.

259 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:05:09am

re: #258 theEbolafishlives

Well, my point is that people LIKE UpChuck and Dim Jim are going to start moving into legitimate journalism outlets like Newsweek. They’re the new trend.

Yes, but once they start working for an organization that actually has funds the blatant lying can become a liability since at that point there are more potential reasons to sue their asses and actually get something back for your troubles.

260 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 8:06:19am

re: #259 Feline Fearless Leader

Yes, but once they start working for an organization that actually has funds the blatant lying can become a liability since at that point there are more potential reasons to sue their asses and actually get something back for your troubles.

Fox News was unavailable for comment.

261 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 8:06:34am

re: #249 RealityBasedEbola

BS. Zoom into the lower left corner, those are live rounds. Plus the idea that combat forces would have blanks, mount the blank adapter that is needed is so laughable that it fall into full upChuck territory.

My Ukrainian neighbors (exchange teachers) filled me in last weekend on how things are in their hometown of Lugansk. Tanya said bombs were going off around her while she was there this summer. Her parents have moved out of the city to a rural location, but they have no water or electricity. Natalya’s family is also without utilities. Lugansk is a combat zone, they say.

Meanwhile, their employer, University of Lugansk, is no longer in operation. So, they have no jobs waiting for them if they go back. Because their uni is out of commission, our Chinese university is not sure if the faculty exchange can be renewed, and thus, their work visas are in jeopardy. In other words, they can’t work here after June 1, and if they go home, they don’t have jobs.

The walking “wounded”.

262 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:08:32am

re: #260 theEbolafishlives

Fox News was unavailable for comment.

But if Fox wants liars, they can probably get them cheaper off the street than what Hoft and the other one think they are worth.

263 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 8:13:34am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Do they blame Moscow, Kiev, everyone, no one in particular?

264 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 8:14:33am

re: #263 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Do they blame Moscow, Kiev, everyone, no one in particular?

I didn’t ask, and they didn’t volunteer.

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:18:13am

re: #263 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Do they blame Moscow, Kiev, everyone, no one in particular?

It’s obviously Obama’s fault. Of course.
///

266 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:19:00am

re: #255 theEbolafishlives

Because people like UpChuck and Dim Jim Hoft are the “next wave” of journalism. Long story short: We’re doomed.

To reuse Cartoon Network’s tagline for their Duck Dodgers cartoon series:

Charles C. Johnson: If he’s reporting’s future, we’re history.

267 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 8:19:48am

re: #265 Feline Fearless Leader

Average folks are likely to have such an opinion, albeit I expect a tad bit more from teachers.

268 Stephen T.  Nov 1, 2014 8:21:08am

re: #251 Feline Fearless Leader

The playbook was the same 70 years ago:

There are those RWNJ who claim that because FDR won the communists actually did take over.

269 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 8:22:02am

re: #267 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Average folks are likely to have such an opinion, albeit I expect a tad bit more from teachers.

They were getting upset, and I wasn’t interviewing them for a news article. So I didn’t press them.

270 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:25:35am

re: #268 Stephen T.

There are those RWNJ who claim that because FDR won the communists actually did take over.

FDR was friendlier with the Soviet Union than he should have been, but the same thing can be said of Henry Ford. The idea that the New Deal was Communism is just as risible as the idea that it was Fascism.

271 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 8:26:48am
272 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:28:09am

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

FDR was friendlier with the Soviet Union than he should have been, but the same thing can be said of Henry Ford. The idea that the New Deal was Communism is just as risible as the idea that it was Fascism.

And I don’t have the impression from other reading that Dewey was *that* conservative. His base, on the other hand, was. Especially the Congressional set led by Taft. So this might have been one of the standard tossings of fresh meat to the base to keep them happy.

273 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:28:28am

re: #269 wheat-dogghazi-bola

They were getting upset, and I wasn’t interviewing them for a news article. So I didn’t press them.

Given the use of cluster munitions in the conflict, I’d expect them to be upset. Bomblets will be found for years in eastern Ukraine.

The only consolation on that point is that both Ukraine and Russia have fairly good Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) capabilities. Because of leftover munitions from WWII, they have needed such capabilities.

274 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:30:00am

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

FDR was friendlier with the Soviet Union than he should have been, but the same thing can be said of Henry Ford. The idea that the New Deal was Communism is just as risible as the idea that it was Fascism.

Fascism was always a greater threat to the United States than Communism was. And FDR knew that.

275 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:30:53am

re: #271 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Beer, Mountain Dew, Doritos, an obnoxious Hawaiian shirt, an even more obnoxious sign, and a Guy Fawkes mask: The perfect portrait of a Dudebro.

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:31:49am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

Beer, Mountain Dew, Doritos, an obnoxious Hawaiian shirt, an even more obnoxious sign, and a Guy Fawkes mask: The perfect portrait of a Dudebro.

It’s about ethics in gaming journalism though, isn’t it?
/

277 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:34:31am

re: #274 Feline Fearless Leader

Fascism was always a greater threat to the United States than Communism was. And FDR knew that.

In terms of direct threat only. The Comintern did not see any real potential for a takeover in the US, but they still acted aggressively to spy, gain influence in government, and manipulate public opinion.

The USSR was the bigger spy threat, though in part because the Nazis were too blatant in their overt efforts and were incompetent in their covert efforts.

278 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:41:41am

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

In terms of direct threat only. The Comintern did not see any real potential for a takeover in the US, but they still acted aggressively to spy, gain influence in government, and manipulate public opinion.

The USSR was the bigger spy threat, though in part because the Nazis were too blatant in their overt efforts and were incompetent in their covert efforts.

What I was also referring to was that *internally* Fascism was always a greater threat to the US than Communism.

279 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 8:43:00am

Brr, it’s cold. Just got back from topping off my fishmobile’s tires, a routine task as the temperature starts dropping.

280 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 8:43:35am

re: #276 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s about ethics in gaming journalism though, isn’t it?
/

HELLS YES. IT’S ALL ABOUT ETHICS IN GAMING JOURNALISM!

Well, here’s a big game company basically bribing people to give their game a good review.

DOES IT INVOLVE MY EX-GIRLFRIEND HAVING SEX WITH OTHER GUYS AFTER SHE DUMPED ME?

No, but it’s very…

NOT INTERESTED.

281 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:43:50am

re: #278 Feline Fearless Leader

What I was also referring to was that *internally* Fascism was always a greater threat to the US than Communism.

And I disagree. Neither was a major takeover threat. The real danger was from spying and subversion. An outright totalitarian takeover in the USA would have been (and would be now) a very hard thing to do.

282 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:46:04am

re: #276 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s about ethics in gaming journalism though, isn’t it?
/

Only for the dudebros. The wingnuts avoid such “ethical questions” like the questions were infected with Ebola.

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:47:23am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

And I disagree. Neither was a major takeover threat. The real danger was from spying and subversion. An outright totalitarian takeover in the USA would have been (and would be now) a very hard thing to do.

Then why does the rhetoric about the Communists taking over the country remain effective enough to constantly be used over and over and over again?

284 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:49:16am

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

Only for the dudebros. The wingnuts avoid such “ethical questions” like the questions were infected with Ebola.

Of course its not at all hard to understand why the Tea Party avoids any contact with any ‘Gamergate’ assholes: It would play right into the Democrats’ “War on Women” rhetoric, and the teabaggers know it.

285 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 8:52:24am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

And I disagree. Neither was a major takeover threat. The real danger was from spying and subversion. An outright totalitarian takeover in the USA would have been (and would be now) a very hard thing to do.

Also, stuff like this. Though I would agree that it probably wouldn’t have gotten far.

Wikipedia: Business Plot

286 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 8:53:06am

re: #283 Feline Fearless Leader

Then why does the rhetoric about the Communists taking over the country remain effective enough to constantly be used over and over and over again?

That’s a damn good question and my answer is this. I think the GOP of the early 50’s during the height of the second Red Scare (remember the first one was in the Wilson years following the Bolshevik revolution) was a party that had lost the past five presidential elections. This was a party on the verge of almost extinction on the national electoral level. They saw something that they knew they could get votes with and scare people with and it worked. And it’s how we got McCarthy, Nixon, and many others in high office. It took the fear of Communists underneath the covers and perhaps the most apolitical presidential candidate in Eisenhower to get back into the WH.

287 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:55:08am

re: #283 Feline Fearless Leader

Then why does the rhetoric about the Communists taking over the country remain effective enough to constantly be used over and over and over again?

Because Communism was a perceived threat at some level for a longer time, from 1917- to 1989. Compared with that 72 year timespan, Fascism was only a perceived threat from 1933-1945. Moreover, the leading Fascism nation, Nazi Germany was comprehensively defeated in war and its defeat caused Fascism to be seen as a failure. Despite the collapse of the Soviet Union, no powerful Communist state ever suffered the same level of defeat (nor could they, given the USSR and China’s possession of nuclear weapons).

288 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 8:56:22am

re: #250 Kilroy01

From the article

Not a training round

Dummies can look like that. It’s hard to say for 100% certainty without seeing the primer area of the cartridge. I make rounds like that for testing the actions of my personal firearms.

289 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 8:57:37am

Anyhow, I would agree that fascism was always more of a danger happening here than communism. Communism really never had a shot here. I think in part because we never had as strong the system that has your birth determining your lot. From the Age of Jackson onward, there was an idea that anyone could make it. Fascism on the otherhand, we had groups like the KKK and in the 19th century the Know Nothings. I see now that we’re talking about direct threats to the US itself but I really do think fear of communism taking over the US was way overblown in the 50’s and 20’s. And it sucks to see those kind of scare tactics making a comeback over two decades after the fall of the USSR.

290 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 8:58:16am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

That’s a damn good question and my answer is this. I think the GOP of the early 50’s during the height of the second Red Scare (remember the first one was in the Wilson years following the Bolshevik revolution) was a party that had lost the past five presidential elections. This was a party on the verge of almost extinction on the national electoral level. They saw something that they knew they could get votes with and scare people with and it worked. And it’s how we got McCarthy, Nixon, and many others in high office. It took the fear of Communists underneath the covers and perhaps the most apolitical presidential candidate in Eisenhower to get back into the WH.

It was also that the Democrats had been lax in keeping Communist spies out of the government. While McCarthy was mostly spouting hot air, Richard Nixon rose to national prominence by going after Alger Hiss, who was indeed proved to be a Soviet spy.

291 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 8:59:53am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

And I disagree. Neither was a major takeover threat. The real danger was from spying and subversion. An outright totalitarian takeover in the USA would have been (and would be now) a very hard thing to do.

I’ll disagree there. We have always been at risk of a Spanish style far right take over. If the Teahadi ever gained power that’s what it would look like right down to the death squads killing “leftists” (IOW anyone who didn’t toe the line).

292 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:00:44am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

It was also that the Democrats had been lax in keeping Communist spies out of the government. While McCarthy was mostly spouting hot air, Richard Nixon rose to national prominence by going after Alger Hiss, who was indeed proved to be a Soviet spy.

Yes, Hiss was a spy but for every Hiss, there were plenty more wrongfully accused which is exactly what McCarthy did and the Republican Party took advantage of until McCarthy went way too far and accused General Marshall of being a Communist spy.

293 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:00:55am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

It was also that the Democrats had been lax in keeping Communist spies out of the government. While McCarthy was mostly spouting hot air, Richard Nixon rose to national prominence by going after Alger Hiss, who was indeed proved to be a Soviet spy.

They’ve been too soft on aliens too.

Link

294 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:01:50am

re: #293 Feline Fearless Leader

They’ve been too soft on aliens too.

Link

Enough to give ya the shakes :).

295 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:03:31am

re: #288 William Barnett-Lewis

Dummies can look like that. It’s hard to say for 100% certainty without seeing the primer area of the cartridge. I make rounds like that for testing the actions of my personal firearms.

According to this forum, those silver tipped rounds are light ‘ball’ (Full Metal Jacket) rounds. It’s the standard round for the PKM GPMG.

296 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 9:04:04am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, I would agree that fascism was always more of a danger happening here than communism. Communism really never had a shot here. I think in part because we never had as strong the system that has your birth determining your lot. From the Age of Jackson onward, there was an idea that anyone could make it. Fascism on the otherhand, we had groups like the KKK and in the 19th century the Know Nothings. I see now that we’re talking about direct threats to the US itself but I really do think fear of communism taking over the US was way overblown in the 50’s and 20’s. And it sucks to see those kind of scare tactics making a comeback over two decades after the fall of the USSR.

More like the wealthy here have always pushed the fantasy that anyone can make it and get rich. While it is somewhat more possible here, there are still real class barriers in place to hinder it. But people subscribing to that fantasy are what keeps the right wing with far more power than they realistically should have given the stratification of money & class in America. Meanwhile CEO’s destroy companies and rake in multi-million dollar bonuses but any attempt to keep or create new jobs in America is derided as “socialism”.

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 9:06:09am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

According to this forum, those silver tipped rounds are light ‘ball’ (Full Metal Jacket) rounds. It’s the standard round for the PKM GPMG.

I’m not doubting that but they can be made that way. OTOH, I have a can of 440 rounds of that same ammo on my dining room table for my M91/30.

THIS case? I’m quite certain that they are live rounds but I’m talking about why some reporters might not be able to tell the difference.

298 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:09:02am

re: #296 William Barnett-Lewis

More like the wealthy here have always pushed the fantasy that anyone can make it and get rich. While it is someone more possible here, there are still real class barriers in place to hinder it. But people subscribing to that fantasy are what keeps the right wing with far more power than they realistically should have given the stratification of money & class in America. Meanwhile CEO’s destroy companies and rake in multi-million dollar bonuses but any attempt to keep or create new jobs in America is derided as “socialism”.

Right. Definitely. Anyhow, I was reading about Robert Wagner the other day, writer of the bill that became Social Security and he basically said that for every poor boy like him that had succeeded and managed to become successful that there were many others that would not. And frankly he was right. What the New Deal and other programs like that enabled many Americans to do is have a greater chance for upward mobility. And frankly, I’m all for programs like that. Detractors can call it “redistributing” wealth, I’ll call it creating a modern society.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:09:19am

re: #297 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m not doubting that but they can be made that way. OTOH, I have a can of 440 rounds of that same ammo on my dining room table for my M91/30.

THIS case? I’m quite certain that they are live rounds but I’m talking about why some reporters might not be able to tell the difference.

Not to mention that dummy rounds or not, firing a MG at positions while wearing a PRESS helmet is the sort of thing that should make all the other media reps there nervous.

300 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:10:36am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Yes, Hiss was a spy but for every Hiss, there were plenty more wrongfully accused which is exactly what McCarthy did and the Republican Party took advantage of until McCarthy went way too far and accused General Marshall of being a Communist spy.

Actually, the Army-McCarthy Hearings were mostly about something much more pedestrian: Roy Cohn’s attempts to gain special privileges for a former committee staffer who had been drafted. Joe McCarthy’s dependance of Cohn was what moved him into Joseph Welch’s sights. Had McCarthy denounced and fired Cohn, it is unlikely the hears would have happened.

301 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:11:33am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

Right. Definitely. Anyhow, I was reading about Robert Wagner the other day, writer of the bill that became Social Security and he basically said that for every poor boy like him that had succeeded and managed to become successful that there were many others that would not. And frankly he was right. What the New Deal and other programs like that enabled many Americans to do is have a greater chance for upward mobility. And frankly, I’m all for programs like that. Detractors can call it “redistributing” wealth, I’ll call it creating a modern society.

Not to mention that it put in a safety net for the elderly that previously did not exist. Social Security and the FDIC did a lot to protect people from bank failures that could wipe out a lifetime of savings in an eye blink. Which to large business and the wealthy was simply a minor market correction.

302 Teukka  Nov 1, 2014 9:12:01am

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that dummy rounds or not, firing a MG at positions while wearing a PRESS helmet is the sort of thing that should make all the other media reps there nervous.

Also, isn’t wearing a press helmet while doing such a stunt a no-no according to the Geneva and Hague conventions (perfidy)?

303 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 9:12:13am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

You mean Roy Cohn.

304 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 9:12:18am

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that dummy rounds or not, firing a MG at positions while wearing a PRESS helmet is the sort of thing that should make all the other media reps there nervous.

Yeah, that kind of stupid could get you shot.

305 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:14:24am

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that dummy rounds or not, firing a MG at positions while wearing a PRESS helmet is the sort of thing that should make all the other media reps there nervous.

Indeed, its the sort of thing that can get a later press helmet perforated by rounds of the same 7.62x54R caliber.

Though those rounds would likely be the 200-grain match-grade rounds used by snipers instead of the 148-grain rounds machine guns use.

Note: The latter sentence was not ‘gun-stroking’, but rather the sort of technical details I often feel the need to spout. I know many facts and I sometimes feel compelled to share them.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:15:01am

re: #304 theEbolafishlives

Yeah, that kind of stupid could get you shot.

Or worse, get some innocent reporter shot since the other side starts refusing to recognize those helmets as indicating non-combatants.

307 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:15:03am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the Army-McCarthy Hearings were mostly about something much more pedestrian: Roy Cohen’s attempts to gain special privileges for a former committee staffer who had been drafted. Joe McCarthy’s dependance of Cohen was what moved him into Joseph Welch’s sights. Had McCarthy denounced and fired Cohen, it is unlikely the hears would have happened.

I am aware of that. I was talking about what the final straw was for many in the GOP. I know Eisenhower was none too happy when McCarthy and Cohn went after Marshall. The staffer by the way was Schine. It’s a good thing that McCarthy and Cohn fucked up. They really had the potential to ruin even more lives with what they were doing.

308 theEbolafishlives  Nov 1, 2014 9:15:57am

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

Indeed, its the sort of thing that can get a later press helmet perforated by rounds of the same 7.62x54R caliber.

Though those rounds would likely be the 200-grain match-grade rounds used by snipers instead of the 148-grain rounds machine guns use.

Note: The latter sentence was not ‘gun-stroking’, but rather the sort of technical details I often feel the need to spout. I know many facts and I sometimes feel compelled to share them.

You’re a geek. We say lots of geeky things.

309 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:16:25am

re: #303 wheat-dogghazi-bola

You mean Roy Cohn.

Yes, I do. ‘Cohen’ is the version of the name Firefox’s spell checker uses and its the version I am personally familiar with because of a childhood classmate of mine. I’ve corrected the post.

310 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:17:10am

re: #301 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that it put in a safety net for the elderly that previously did not exist. Social Security and the FDIC did a lot to protect people from bank failures that could wipe out a lifetime of savings in an eye blink. Which to large business and the wealthy was simply a minor market correction.

Wagner is one of the best senators ever. Also author of the Wagner Act which guaranteed a right to organize. But yeah thinking about the New Deal, I think a lot of conservatives and libertarians or hell even some liberals don’t appreciate where we were in 1933 and why FDR and his allies had to make the legislation and agencies that were created. That ironically did more to prevent Communism from happening here than any red-baiting did.

311 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 9:18:44am

The line between historical fascism and historical communism has always been very blurry.

312 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:21:11am

re: #301 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that it put in a safety net for the elderly that previously did not exist. Social Security and the FDIC did a lot to protect people from bank failures that could wipe out a lifetime of savings in an eye blink. Which to large business and the wealthy was simply a minor market correction.

Not back then it wasn’t. The market crash hit the high as well as the middle and the low. It didn’t hit them as much, but it did hurt. There was a reason many rich people supported FDR: Sometimes its the burned hand that teaches best.

There was of course also the fact that FDR did not face an opponent who was really suited to being president until he faced Thomas Dewey in 1944. And by then people did not want to change leaders in the middle of a war we were winning.

313 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:23:06am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Wagner is one of the best senators ever. Also author of the Wagner Act which guaranteed a right to organize. But yeah thinking about the New Deal, I think a lot of conservatives and libertarians or hell even some liberals don’t appreciate where we were in 1933 and why FDR and his allies had to make the legislation and agencies that were created. That ironically did more to prevent Communism from happening here than any red-baiting did.

Safety nets prevent a lot of base unrest from occurring, or getting very far, in the first place. Reduces the effects of some injustices, and there is not an accumulation of people in the gutter with nothing to lose and becoming the tinder just awaiting the right spark.

314 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:23:16am

re: #308 theEbolafishlives

You’re a geek. We say lots of geeky things.

Yes, but these days one has to make clear when one is geeking out on a gun related matter, lest it be seen as gun fetishism instead.

315 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 9:23:47am

Which is why the so-called “Novorossiya”, a right-wing bandit pseudo-state, proclaims that it now follows the Soviet ideals.

316 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:23:48am

I actually think Willkie was the most admirable of all FDR’s opponents. Totally unqualified for the job in my opinion but much more wise than Hoover, Landon, or Dewey. Dewey in ‘48 was a different Dewey than ‘44 Dewey.

317 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:25:29am

re: #313 Feline Fearless Leader

Safety nets prevent a lot of base unrest from occurring, or getting very far, in the first place. Reduces the effects of some injustices, and there is not an accumulation of people in the gutter with nothing to lose and becoming the tinder just awaiting the right spark.

Right. The safety net I think deserves more credit honestly for helping usher in stability.

318 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 9:26:49am

Oh great. More jackhammering from another site. Off to go run errands and give my ears a rest.

Be back later.

319 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:29:13am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I actually think Willkie was the most admirable of all FDR’s opponents. Totally unqualified for the job in my opinion but much more wise than Hoover, Landon, or Dewey. Dewey in ‘48 was a different Dewey than ‘44 Dewey.

No one who ran against FDR was a bad man, its just that none of them were as well suited to the requirements of the presidency as he was.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, after all, one of the 3 presidents whom all serious historians of both left and right agree merits the rating of “Great”. As a late 1990’s National Review article rating the presidents put it, “Whatever one thinks of him [FDR], how can he not be called ‘great’?”

320 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 9:33:24am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Right. The safety net I think deserves more credit honestly for helping usher in stability.

A lesson that China once learned, then forgot. There are no equivalents here for Social Security or Medicare, much less a national health system, which means those only children of aging parents are really feeling the squeeze. It’s called the 1-2-4 problem: one kid, two parents, four grandparents. So long as the Chinese economy keeps chugging along and people can find jobs, there will be little unrest. If the economy tanks, as some experts are predicting, there are going to be millions of young people out of work. They may take to the streets as the people did in Hong Kong.

321 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:34:55am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

No one who ran against FDR was a bad man, its just that none of them were as well suited to the requirements of the presidency as he was.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, after all, one of the 3 presidents whom all serious historians of both left and right agree merits the rating of “Great”. As a late 1990’s National Review article rating the presidents put it, “Whatever one thinks of him [FDR], how can he not be called ‘great’?”

It’s interesting to see the right embrace FDR now as a great because in his lifetime, he was a lightning rod and hated. Anyhow, I wasn’t suggesting that Landon, Hoover, or Dewey were bad guys here. I think Hoover and Landon lacked the understanding to the economic problems that the country.faced. Wilkie I think would have found himself in over his hand. Guy had never been elected to anything before or appointed to a high position like Eisenhower or Grant and as we’ve seen with generals, they can be greats like Washington or they can fail like Grant. Dewey in ‘44 I think still did not understand the world around us. In ‘48, I think he did but Truman was better suited for the job by then. Anyhow, FDR for all his faults I think is a top president. People who hate the New Deal as I got at above don’t appreciate the real troubles the country faced when FDR took power.

322 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:36:30am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi-bola

A lesson that China once learned, then forgot. There are no equivalents here for Social Security or Medicare, much less a national health system, which means those only children of aging parents are really feeling the squeeze. It’s called the 1-2-4 problem: one kid, two parents, four grandparents. So long as the Chinese economy keeps chugging along and people can find jobs, there will be little unrest. If the economy tanks, as some experts are predicting, there are going to be millions of young people out of work. They may take to the streets as the people did in Hong Kong.

Yeah I’m afraid that unrest lies in China’s future. I’ve been hearing by the way also that the strong proportion of men to women resulting from the one child policy also may lead to some unrest too. China definitely is a country to keep an eye out.

323 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 9:37:10am

Well that was fun.

The winds here in Metro Atlanta are kicking up to 50MPH sustained at some points. It’s also supposed to freeze tonight. So, because I am behind on EVERYTHING right now, I had forgot I left all the terra cotta pots outside. Some of them belonged to my grandmother and I wanted to make sure they didn’t freeze and crack. So The Kid and I went out to gather them up and put them in the garden shed. I missed getting hit in the head by a fairly large branch that snapped off one of the 60 yr old maples in the back yard by about 3 inches.

Scared the hell outta me. I think I’m staying in and baking an apple pie and making some lavender/chamomile salve today, the hell with this nonsense. Yipes.

324 De Kolta Chair  Nov 1, 2014 9:40:14am

325 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 9:42:25am

re: #324 De Kolta Chair

326 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2014 9:43:21am

In California last night:

327 sagehen  Nov 1, 2014 9:44:29am

re: #285 Feline Fearless Leader

Also, stuff like this. Though I would agree that it probably wouldn’t have gotten far.

Wikipedia: Business Plot

“Wouldn’t have gotten very far”? It did get pretty far. If they’d picked a different retired general, somebody who’d like the idea, if they’d had access to the kind of info that NSA or Google or Blackwater can drum up on somebody today, they’d have picked the right retired generals to make it a go.

328 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 9:45:38am

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention that dummy rounds or not, firing a MG at positions while wearing a PRESS helmet is the sort of thing that should make all the other media reps there nervous.

This here is what I think is the biggest thing. Maybe he should have donned a red cross vest too. Get all non-combatants involved.

329 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:47:16am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

More on the Right hate FDR than admire him, though he has gained some defenders there, most notably Conrad Black.

Really, what that article I quoted from represented was the same attitude for FDR that Ronald Reagan had had for the remaining New Deal programs: Acceptance. I myself would define this acceptance as follows:

As a conservative, I wish the Franklin Roosevelt administration had pursued a less top-down and more market friendly approach to many of the nation’s problems. But also I understand and accept why FDR in fact acted as he did. Perhaps others in American history could have done better, but they weren’t there at the time. And FDR did well enough to get America through the Great Depression intact, and then led the nation to victory in the largest war it has ever fought.

Owning to these factors, and the fact that some New deal programs have proven very durable, the public now sees them as an integral part of the political and economic landscape. It was no less a person than Dwight D. Eisenhower whom Ronald Reagan quoted when explaining why he would not move against Social Security: “If a high-placed person were to propose doing away with Social Security, you would never again hear from that person.”

330 Floral Giraffe  Nov 1, 2014 9:49:06am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was the first significant rain in a long time. It was lovely here, and well, some folks got more than they bargained for. Despite what the song says, it DOES rain in Southern California.

331 bratwurst  Nov 1, 2014 9:50:29am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

It’s interesting to see the right embrace FDR now as a great because in his lifetime, he was a lightning rod and hated.

Don’t worry…plenty on the right still vilify him on a regular basis. Glenn Beck in particular has made assassinating the character of both presidents Roosevelt a major theme for a long time now. We also got a lot of idiotic remarks from right wing punditry during the Ken Burns PBS series.

332 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 9:51:49am

re: #327 sagehen

“Wouldn’t have gotten very far”? It did get pretty far. If they’d picked a different retired general, somebody who’d like the idea, if they’d had access to the kind of info that NSA or Google or Blackwater Booze Allen Hamilton can drum up on somebody today, they’d have picked the right retired generals to make it a go.

Correction for accuracy. Blackwater was always involved in the boots on the ground side of things, and never had direct access to intelligence data. Booze Allen Hamilton, while a much-better behaved and more honest firm, is the one that hired Edward Snowden as a contractor.

333 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 9:55:02am

I hate those times when I know there’s something I need to be doing, but I can’t remember what it is.

334 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 9:56:51am

re: #333 Targetpractice

I hate those times when I know there’s something I need to be doing, but I can’t remember what it is.

Getting married today?

335 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 9:58:03am

re: #334 Eventual Carrion

Getting married today?

No, if that were the case, I’d be a nervous wreck. Instead, I’m sure whatever it was is non-vital, but something I wanted to get done.

336 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:58:48am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

More on the Right hate FDR than admire him, though he has gained some defenders there, most notably Conrad Black.

Really, what that article I quoted from represented was the same attitude for FDR that Ronald Reagan had had for the remaining New Deal programs: Acceptance. I myself would define this acceptance as follows:

As a conservative, I wish the Franklin Roosevelt administration had pursued a less top-down and more market friendly approach to many of the nation’s problems. But also I understand and accept why FDR in fact acted as he did. Perhaps others in American history could have done better, but they weren’t there at the time. And FDR did well enough to get America through the Great Depression intact, and then led the nation to victory in the largest war it has ever fought.

Owning to these factors, and the fact that some New deal programs have proven very durable, the public now sees them as an integral part of the political and economic landscape. It was no less a person than Dwight D. Eisenhower whom Ronald Reagan quoted when explaining why he would not move against Social Security: “If a high-placed person were to propose doing away with Social Security, you would never again hear from that person.”

I look at it like this. I think FDR saw that those were desperate times and that desperate times called for desperate measures. Many of his conservative detractors at that time I think had a blind faith that the markets would just fix themselves. They also didn’t accept the fact that this was the worst economic castaprophe the country had faced. We had faced panics before but nothing like the Great Depression.

337 sagehen  Nov 1, 2014 9:59:12am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

…and as we’ve seen with generals, they can be greats like Washington or they can fail like Grant. Dewey…

Grant was not a failure. That’s revisionist history pushed by Confederates, pissed off because his 1875 Civil Rights Act had real teeth to it, he had the US Army doing battle with the Klan (and winning overwhelmingly) and was making Reconstruction a real thing. Southerners couldn’t stand that.

338 Kilroy01  Nov 1, 2014 9:59:27am

re: #288 William Barnett-Lewis

(I know a little late.. but)
Dummy rounds have no powder and won’t fire.
Blanks have no projectile - these rounds do.

Blanks look like this and require a blank adapter to cycle the action.

339 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:00:27am

re: #331 bratwurst

Don’t worry…plenty on the right still vilify him on a regular basis. Glenn Beck in particular has made assassinating the character of both presidents Roosevelt a major theme for a long time now. We also got a lot of idiotic remarks from right wing punditry during the Ken Burns PBS series.

Oh I know it. Just funny to see a certain conservative publication say that. Hell though Beck hates on Lincoln. But then again Lincoln hatred by the right has become a surprisingly popular pastime these past six years. I wasn’t even aware of it. I really thought the only people who hated Lincoln were neo-Confederate whiners who still aren’t over a war that ended 149 years ago but there’s a lot of people on the right that hate Lincoln.

340 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:01:22am

re: #337 sagehen

Grant was not a failure. That’s revisionist history pushed by Confederates, pissed off because his 1875 Civil Rights Act had real teeth to it, he had the US Army doing battle with the Klan (and winning overwhelmingly) and was making Reconstruction a real thing. Southerners couldn’t stand that.

Fair point. Grant is a lot better than given credit for.

341 sagehen  Nov 1, 2014 10:03:31am

re: #335 Targetpractice

No, if that were the case, I’d be a nervous wreck. Instead, I’m sure whatever it was is non-vital, but something I wanted to get done.

Not to worry, it’ll come back to you just as you’re about to fall asleep tonight.

342 sagehen  Nov 1, 2014 10:06:04am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

I look at it like this. I think FDR saw that those were desperate times and that desperate times called for desperate measures. Many of his conservative detractors at that time I think had a blind faith that the markets would just fix themselves. They also didn’t accept the fact that this was the worst economic castaprophe the country had faced. We had faced panics before but nothing like the Great Depression.

People in his own administration had that faith.

One cabinet secretary: “We don’t need to do much, the economy will recover on its own within a couple of years.”

Another cabinet secretary: “People don’t need to eat in a couple of years. They need to eat TODAY. They need to eat EVERY day.”

343 Floral Giraffe  Nov 1, 2014 10:06:37am

And, now it’s raining in the sunshine! WOOT! Rainbows!

344 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:09:16am

re: #338 Kilroy01

(I know a little late.. but)
Dummy rounds have no powder and won’t fire.
Blanks have no projectile - these rounds do.

Blanks look like this and require a blank adapter to cycle the action.
[Embedded image]

You’re fine, Kilroy, and your point is well made.

345 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:09:35am

re: #342 sagehen

People in his own administration had that faith.

One cabinet secretary: “We don’t need to do much, the economy will recoer on its own within a couple of years.”

Another cabinet secretary: “People don’t need to eat in a couple of years. They need to eat TODAY. They need to eat EVERY day.”

Makes it all the more amazing he was able to get done what he got done. I agree with the Burns documentary though that Polio gave FDR a real empathy with the nation’s downtrotten that he might otherwise have never had.

346 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:12:46am

re: #343 Floral Giraffe

And, now it’s raining in the sunshine! WOOT! Rainbows!

I’ve got the perfect image for the moment:

347 Floral Giraffe  Nov 1, 2014 10:14:14am

re: #346 Dark_Falcon

Beautiful, thank you!

348 EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2014 10:36:57am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Oh I know it. Just funny to see a certain conservative publication say that. Hell though Beck hates on Lincoln. But then again Lincoln hatred by the right has become a surprisingly popular pastime these past six years. I wasn’t even aware of it. I really thought the only people who hated Lincoln were neo-Confederate whiners who still aren’t over a war that ended 149 years ago but there’s a lot of people on the right that hate Lincoln.

It’s easy enough to understand this. When the GOP engaged in the southern strategy, they imported a large dose of lost-cause neo Confederacy along with the disgruntled racists they were courting.

That dose of poison has been spreading through the party since then, and it remains to be seen if it will be fatal for the party (or country).

349 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:41:04am

re: #348 EPR-radar

It’s easy enough to understand this. When the GOP engaged in the southern strategy, they imported a large dose of lost-cause neo Confederacy along with the disgruntled racists they were courting.

That dose of poison has been spreading through the party since then, and it remains to be seen if it will be fatal for the party (or country).

Right, the Southern Strategy I think is when the GOP really started to become the twisted right wing party we know today. All starts with Nixon being desperate to regain power.

350 Khal Wimpo  Nov 1, 2014 3:05:53pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

As a late 1990’s National Review article rating the presidents put it, “Whatever one thinks of him [FDR], how can he not be called ‘great’?”

Dunno about that DF. One of the big tropes that goes around GOP media is a constant denigration of FDR, usually based on assumptions that he instituted a form of communism here at home, extended the Great Depression and wasn’t sufficiently stalwart against the Nazis and made a pact with Stalin that sold out Eastern Europe. But mostly based on a deep hatred of the New Deal … mostly out of ignorance of what the alternative would have been. Which was pretty much Huey Long, national implosion and Weimar Republic-like poverty and unrest.

351 Khal Wimpo  Nov 1, 2014 3:13:55pm

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

As a conservative, I wish the Franklin Roosevelt administration had pursued a less top-down and more market friendly approach to many of the nation’s problems. (snip) FDR did well enough to get America through the Great Depression intact, and then led the nation to victory in the largest war it has ever fought.

One of the little-appreciated factors in the winning of WWII is the fact that we had so much modern infrastructure that helped us win that war. We did not win it because of the excellence of our soldiers (although they were brave in the main, still, the German soldier inflicted 13x casualties, while by the end of the war, the number of US soldiers that had gone AWOL and were busy profiteering in Europe was uncomfortably high). We won WWII because we were able to call upon US manufacturing might to bury the Axis powers.

And we were able to do so because we had a trained workforce. Trained in CCC and WPA job programs. Coal and steel rolling on modern railroads. Trucks on paved roads. All Improved by FDR. Plane, tank and A-bomb designers trained at gov’t funded schools. Food production (by farmers like my grampa) able to take up the slack because they had survived by working in the CCC during the winter.

If we had gone to war with Germany and Japan with the country that Hoover left us, we would be a slave state right now.


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