Update on America’s Only Current Confirmed Ebola Patient: Condition Upgraded to “Stable”

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Dr. Craig Spencer in Guinea

With all of the hysteria and fear-mongering about Ebola, we should remember that there is currently exactly one person in the whole country (out of more than 316 million) who is actually being treated for the disease: New York’s Dr. Craig Spencer, who worked in close contact with Ebola victims in Guinea. And tonight, Dr. Spencer’s condition has been upgraded from “serious but stable” to “stable.”

A New York doctor who became infected with Ebola while treating patients in Guinea has been upgraded from serious but stable condition to stable condition, hospital officials said Saturday, marking progress in a case that intensified the debate over how to treat health workers returning from West Africa.

UPDATE at 11/1/14 6:47:59 pm by Charles Johnson

And about the suspected Ebola patient in Oregon: Liberian Woman Monitored in Portland-Area Ebola Unit No Longer Has Fever, Host Family Says.

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230 comments

1 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 6:29:07pm
2 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2014 6:31:00pm

Carrying on the discussion from downstairs I really am not looking forward to the inevitable right wing gloat fest that would follow an Obama impeachment.

Could such a move be considered a racist action?

3 aagcobb  Nov 1, 2014 6:31:36pm

Once again, America is saved by Obama’s incompetence in executing one of his evil schemes to destroy America.///

4 jamesfirecat  Nov 1, 2014 6:35:12pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Carrying on the discussion from downstairs I really am not looking forward to the inevitable right wing gloat fest that would follow an Obama impeachment.

Could such a move be considered a racist action?

///Of course not, we plan to impeach Biden next, we can’t stand democrats because whatever color their skin is deep down they’re all red!

5 EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2014 6:38:06pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Carrying on the discussion from downstairs I really am not looking forward to the inevitable right wing gloat fest that would follow an Obama impeachment.

Could such a move be considered a racist action?

There will most certainly be no conviction if Obama is impeached. Failure to convict doesn’t give the GOP anything real to brag about, especially if the Democrats fight back hard for once, and the media starts doing its job.

6 PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2014 6:39:45pm

I am glad to hear he is doing better.

7 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 6:41:44pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

There will most certainly be no conviction if Obama is impeached. Failure to convict doesn’t give the GOP anything real to brag about, especially if the Democrats fight back hard for once, and the media starts doing its job.

That part I emphasized in bold…that scares me. I fear how they will turn something like an impeachment into a 24 hour drama fest of over-the-top clap trap like never seen before. Look how they wallow in it now. Can you imagine? {{{SHUDDER}}}

8 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 6:41:53pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

I have to differ — Republicans still gloat about their impeachment of Bill Clinton even though he wasn’t removed from office. If they get an impeachment conviction they’ll run with it until the end of time whether the Senate removes him from office or not.

It’s all about the symbolism of impeaching the first black President. That’s what the Tea Party base wants.

9 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 6:45:13pm

And another day goes by without anybody who came in contact with Spencer becoming sick themselves.

But still, the drumbeat of hysteria goes on.

10 jaunte  Nov 1, 2014 6:45:15pm
11 lawhawk  Nov 1, 2014 6:47:25pm

With a single solitary case of Ebola currently being treated in Bellevue, the right wing doesn’t have much to go on, so they’re turning to Enterovirus D68 - and blaming illegal aliens. Again.

Between Mickey Kaus and Ann Coulter, the two are pushing this nonsense that illegals brought this into the US and that the media doesn’t want to investigate this further.

Earth to right wing extremists: Enterovirus D68 was found here first. That’s right. It was identified in the US first decades ago, and the current outbreak started in Colorado. It didn’t get imported into the US by illegal aliens.

This is a disease native to the US. It has outbreaks from time to time - in the US.

But these right wingers are anti-science xenophobes, so science and the facts don’t matter.

12 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 6:48:42pm

And about the suspected Ebola patient in Oregon: Liberian Woman Monitored in Portland-Area Ebola Unit No Longer Has Fever, Host Family Says.

A Liberian woman who was rushed to Providence Milwaukie Hospital on Friday over fears she might be infected with Ebola is no longer suffering from a fever, according to members of the Portland family she was visiting.

“She’s feeling good,” the husband in the host family said during a brief interview on Saturday. “There’s no more temperature.”

The man, who’s a pastor, spoke to a reporter on condition of anonymity for fear that his family, who are under voluntary quarantine in their home, would be stigmatized.

13 lawhawk  Nov 1, 2014 6:49:19pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

And another day goes by without anybody who came in contact with Spencer becoming sick themselves.

But still, the drumbeat of hysteria goes on.

And each day that goes by, the less likely anyone that worked in contact with Duncan, Pham, or Vinson will come down with the disease either.

14 lawhawk  Nov 1, 2014 6:51:11pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

How surprising.

Another false alarm.

And that was yet another BREAKING item from Hoft. That there was another EBOLA PATIENT!!! Maybe. Possibly. Wishfully thinking. But not.

15 darthstar  Nov 1, 2014 6:55:10pm

If there are any people on the planet who would knowingly play with an Ebola patient’s feces, they’re names are probably Chuck C Johnson and Jim Hoft.

16 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 6:55:51pm

re: #15 darthstar

If there are any people on the planet who would knowingly play with an Ebola patient’s feces, they’re names are probably Chuck C Johnson and Jim Hoft.

Taking one for the team!

17 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 6:59:54pm

Goddamn ducks.

18 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 7:12:59pm
19 Belafon  Nov 1, 2014 7:25:49pm

re: #14 lawhawk

Those with the flu should get great medical care this year.

20 ipsos  Nov 1, 2014 7:29:47pm

To those who would say DST “serves no real purpose,” I’d offer this: in southern California, the shortest day of the year has just under 10 hours of daylight and the sun is up before 7 even on standard time. The longest day of the year is just over 14 hours of daylight, and the sun would be up just before 5 on standard time.

In northern Maine, that swing is much, much greater. On the shortest day of the year, there’s less than 8.5 hours of daylight. On the longest day of the year, there’s more than 16 hours of daylight, and the sun would rise at 3:38 AM and still set at 7:30 PM if standard time were observed year-round.

Most of us in today’s society don’t have the luxury of adjusting our work and play schedules to account for such wide disparities between solar time and the inflexibility of clock time. In northern latitudes, and especially in time zones drawn for more political than practical purposes*, DST is actually a very useful kludge for making widely-variable sun time fit better into inflexible clock time.

I’m sure I’d disagree with me, too, if I lived in sunny southern California instead of trying to eke out every ounce of daylight I can get from a bleak Great Lakes winter…

(*New England should really be on Atlantic time, and Detroit and Indianapolis on Central, but there are strong economic and political reasons for maintaining the same time as New York year-round and for not adding a fifth mainland time zone in the US, so that’s not a winning fight.)

21 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 7:35:01pm

Navy is up 31-28 over The Drunken Irish.

22 Belafon  Nov 1, 2014 7:41:16pm

re: #20 ipsos

OK. So we decide whether we’d want that extra hour of light at the beginning or end of the day at the shortest day of the year.

A 3pm, the light in my kitchen is turned on if I need something there. If it’s 10pm, I still have to turn my light on to find something there. Where I work doesn’t have windows, and at my previous job that did, I didn’t use the sun for any part of my job.

Not only do we not need the sun to see, we don’t use the sun to see.

On the other hand, the changeover in the spring actually causes an increase in accidents.

23 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 7:48:58pm

re: #22 Belafon

OK. So we decide whether we’d want that extra hour of light at the beginning or end of the day at the shortest day of the year.

A 3pm, the light in my kitchen is turned on if I need something there. If it’s 10pm, I still have to turn my light on to find something there. Where I work doesn’t have windows, and at my previous job that did, I didn’t use the sun for any part of my job.

Not only do we not need the sun to see, we don’t use the sun to see.

On the other hand, the changeover in the spring actually causes an increase in accidents.

It was instituted to save energy costs, I believe, during WWI. Is that right?

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 7:50:11pm

re: #23 austin_blue

It was instituted to save energy costs, I believe, during WWI. Is that right?

WWI but to increase farmer productivity. Fuel costs were minimal at the time. I think that they didn’t use the energy thing till the 1970’s.

25 Sophist -- Missouri Goddamn  Nov 1, 2014 7:50:46pm
Sick but getting better

Making his prognosis infinitely more promising than those of the assholes trying to capitalize on his illness for personal gain.

26 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 7:53:39pm

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

WWI but to increase farmer productivity. Fuel costs were minimal at the time. I think that they didn’t use the energy thing till the 1970’s.

Ah! That’s right. Makes sense. Thanks, WBL (do you go by Bill?)

27 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 7:58:08pm

re: #26 austin_blue

Ah! That’s right. Makes sense. Thanks, WBL (do you go by Bill?)

William. Too many other Bills in the family and in my class in high school. Just made it easier to change over.

28 withak  Nov 1, 2014 7:58:53pm

This bit of selectively-edited nonsense is making the rounds on Facebook:

Video

A friend is up in arms about Obama’s apparent disdain for the stay-at-home mom, since she is one herself. I pointed out the lack of context (the video begins mid-sentence!) but the Obama Derangement Syndrome bubble is impenetrable.

29 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 7:59:20pm

re: #15 darthstar

If there are any people on the planet who would knowingly play with an Ebola patient’s feces, they’re names are probably Chuck C Johnson and Jim Hoft.

Well they kinda needed to. They would never have finished that bedroom wall mural with just their own.

30 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 8:02:52pm

Just stepped out for a smoke on then back porch and the dulcet sound of Los Lobos’ How Will The Wolf Survive came wafting on the wind from downtown. FI Fan Fest, outdoor show. Love that band.

31 ipsos  Nov 1, 2014 8:04:14pm

re: #22 Belafon

OK. So we decide whether we’d want that extra hour of light at the beginning or end of the day at the shortest day of the year.

A 3pm, the light in my kitchen is turned on if I need something there. If it’s 10pm, I still have to turn my light on to find something there. Where I work doesn’t have windows, and at my previous job that did, I didn’t use the sun for any part of my job.

Not only do we not need the sun to see, we don’t use the sun to see.

Maybe where you live. When I added on to my house a few years back, I built with the intent of optimizing southern exposure. If the sun is out and it’s not completely clouded over (a crapshoot in an upstate NY winter, to be sure), my lights aren’t on and my heat’s not running as much as it is when it’s darker and cooler.

You’re mostly on target with your first statement: DST is absolutely a political decision about how to make clock time better correspond to solar time. But we all focus on the shortest day of the year, and on the shortest day of the year, we northerners are screwed no matter what. If the sun’s up when you’re driving to work, it’s dark when you drive home, and vice versa. What matters more, in a lot of ways, is the longest day of the year. Very few of us benefit from a sunrise at 3:45 AM clock-time. Many more of us benefit from a sunset in June or July at 8:30 PM instead of 7:30 PM. That’s the real win from daylight time up here in the north.

(And conversely, it’s why Arizona in particular sticks to not observing DST: when it’s 105 degrees in June, you want the sun going down at 7:30 instead of 8:30 on the clock so you can do more in the cooler evening hours before the clock says it’s bedtime. Again, it’s the long days of summer when DST vs. non-DST makes a difference, not winter.)

32 Jenner7  Nov 1, 2014 8:06:07pm
33 aagcobb  Nov 1, 2014 8:30:30pm

Mitch McConnell claims that a GOP Congress will work with the President to end gridlock. I guess we’ll see, but if they do a whole lot of Teabag heads will go splodey.

34 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 8:36:28pm

re: #33 aagcobb

Mitch McConnell claims that a GOP Congress will work with the President to end gridlock. I guess we’ll see, but if they do a whole lot of Teabag heads will go splodey.

“Will work with the President”? HA! No, what he’s expecting is the GOP majority will start cramming bills through and the President will either have to veto every single one or he’ll have to agree to some of the GOP’s demands to get anything done.

35 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 8:44:00pm

re: #33 aagcobb

Mitch McConnell claims that a GOP Congress will work with the President to end gridlock. I guess we’ll see, but if they do a whole lot of Teabag heads will go splodey.

Yeah, it will end gridlock. No one will be able to stop their impeachment and tea party bullshit in Congress.

36 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 1, 2014 8:49:02pm

re: #33 aagcobb

Mitch McConnell claims that a GOP Congress will work with the President to end gridlock. I guess we’ll see, but if they do a whole lot of Teabag heads will go splodey.

Sure, Obama will first have to show good faith by disestablishing the EPA, the department of Education, the Department of Housing and Urban affairs and to nominate John Bolton for Secretary of State. He will then be allowed to sign every piece of harebrained legislation on the GOP wishlist. Gridlock gone.

37 withak  Nov 1, 2014 8:55:03pm

SNL is actually moderately amusing tonight. It helps that Chris Rock is hosting.

38 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 8:57:28pm

re: #37 withak

SNL is actually moderately amusing tonight. It helps that Chris Rock is hosting.

The broadcast won’t begin here in the mountain time zone for another 35 minutes.

I just want to see Prince play.

39 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 8:58:39pm

In the fantasy world of fence-sitting “moderates,” the idea of a GOP Congress and Dem president sounds wonderful. They think it will mean that the parties will put aside their differences and compromise for the sake of the country. But when one of the most prominent members of one party declares that there’s “too much compromise in Washington,” then odds that anything constructive will get done are lower than a snake’s balls.

40 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 8:59:02pm

re: #32 Jenner7

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Right on Mr. President, right on. Too bad that people won’t listen to this.

41 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 9:00:23pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

In the fantasy world of fence-sitting “moderates,” the idea of a GOP Congress and Dem president sounds wonderful. They think it will mean that the parties will put aside their differences and compromise for the sake of the country. But when one of the most prominent members of one party declares that there’s “too much compromise in Washington,” then odds that anything constructive will get done are lower than a snake’s balls.

They live in a fantasy world where Mitch McConnell didn’t make his main goal of President Obama’s first four years to make Obama a one term president. Same world where that the Tea Party is actually concerned about fiscal issues.

42 Romantic Heretic  Nov 1, 2014 9:02:51pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sure, Obama will first have to show good faith by disestablishing the EPA, the department of Education, the Department of Housing and Urban affairs and to nominate John Bolton for Secretary of State. He will then be allowed to sign every piece of harebrained legislation on the GOP wishlist. Gridlock gone.

Am I the only person who nearly had a childish accident reading that paragraph? semi/

43 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 9:03:07pm

Wingnut disappointment over Dr. Craig Spencer’s improvement is almost palpable. They really need someone to die soon to feed their ghoulish appetites.

44 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 9:07:28pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Wingnut disappointment over Dr. Craig Spencer’s improvement is almost palpable. They really need someone to die soon to feed their ghoulish appetites.

You can tell they’ve been getting more and more frustrated as each infectee since Duncan has not only failed to infect others, but has survived the ordeal. It’s hard as hell to not only keep the hysteria going, but also damn the government as “ineffective,” when Ebola doesn’t seem to be spreading and the people infected are surviving with government help.

45 Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2014 9:08:01pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Wingnut disappointment over Dr. Craig Spencer’s improvement is almost palpable. They really need someone to die soon to feed their ghoulish appetites.

If slithering, festering, bogmonster (and one-time GOP party official) Todd Kincannon had his way, Dr. Craig Spencer would be executed, along with:

- Nina Pham
- Amber Vinson
- Kaci Hickox (even though she tested negative)

46 austin_blue  Nov 1, 2014 9:08:16pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Wingnut disappointment over Dr. Craig Spencer’s improvement is almost palpable. They really need someone to die soon to feed their ghoulish appetites.

The damage has been done, though. We’ve got the outbreak pretty much licked, but the fear is well entrenched in the great unwashed who are convinced that the CDC is incompetent and that Obama is responsible for the Negro Disease From Africa attacking our borders.

Or something.

Pitiful.

47 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 9:09:48pm

OBOLA WILL KILL US ALL AFTER OBUMMER HAS TAKEN ALL ARE GUNS AND HE IS ABLE TO INFECT THE TRUE CHRISTIANS IMPRIZINED IN FEMA CAMPS WITH OBOLA

48 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 9:10:47pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Wingnut disappointment over Dr. Craig Spencer’s improvement is almost palpable. They really need someone to die soon to feed their ghoulish appetites.

Not only for that, but to keep the base freaking out about how it’s Obama’s fault; if the federal government’s guidance on this leads to only a few scattered, treatable (and survivable) cases, then the RWNJs’ “solutions” of forcible quarantine and West African travel bans have no purchase with the greater public.

49 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 9:14:53pm

re: #48 TedStriker

Not only for that, but to keep the base freaking out about how it’s Obama’s fault; if the federal government’s guidance on this leads to only a few scattered, treatable (and survivable) cases, then the RWNJs’ “solutions” of forcible quarantine and West African travel bans have no purchase with the greater public.

I was about to say that, if it doesn’t happen during the lame duck session, you can be sure that the GOP will push in January for travel bans. But that’s a gamble on their part, that the outbreaks in West Africa will still be going strong in two months time. If two months go by and there’s no further cases here in the US, then stirring up that hysteria again will be difficult.

50 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 9:16:48pm

OT: the Guinness Luxury Fudge my brother and his boyfriend brought me from their trip to Ireland last week is pretty damned tasty.

carrollsirishgifts.com

That is all…

51 Romantic Heretic  Nov 1, 2014 9:35:51pm

My Windwalker monk hit level 90 today.

I must say. I am enjoying WoW.

Except for mages. Mages are lousy characters in WoW. At least for solo play.

52 BeachDem  Nov 1, 2014 9:39:56pm

re: #45 Interesting Times

If slithering, festering, bogmonster (and one-time GOP party official) Todd Kincannon had his way, Dr. Craig Spencer would be executed, along with:

- Nina Pham
- Amber Vinson
- Kaci Hickox (even though she tested negative)

Because it never gets old, Todd and his mom—what a lovely family.

53 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 9:40:06pm

Well, someone made a YouTube video of a bicycle with ice tires. Yes, you read that right. Ice tires.

Youtube Video

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2014 9:43:00pm

Man sues to get names and addresses of strippers so he can “pray for them”

Last week, you learned about David Van Vleet, a Washington man filing a public records request for the real names and addresses of exotic dancers at a local gentleman’s club.

Since then, a federal judge has blocked his public records request. Meanwhile, Van Vleet has finally revealed the motivations behind it: he wanted the dancers’ names so he could “pray” for them.

Van Vleet was attempting to procure the entertainment licenses of exotic dancers at Dreamgirls at Fox’s, a gentlemen’s club outside of Tacoma, Washington.

After Van Vleet initially filed the request for the public records, which are legally available under Washington state law, the dancers sued Washington’s Pierce County, arguing that if their real names were exposed to Van Vleet, it would pose a threat to their personal safety, as he likely had “nefarious intentions” for requesting such information.

If I wasn’t so tired, I would probably page this.

55 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 9:48:19pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s just wacked.

Maybe he wants to try “laying on of hands” to cure the dancers of their sinful ways.

56 Varek Raith  Nov 1, 2014 9:48:34pm

Hello.

57 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 1, 2014 9:50:55pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

I prayed for a stripper once. No luck so I went back to…

58 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 9:52:53pm

Well, I can say this. The Door is open to a female Doctor.

Blown open, in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Doctor after Capaldi’s is female.

However, you can tell now that Moffat is beginning to lose steam. He let Kill the Moon, and In the Forest of the Night through. That wouldn’t have happened in the Past.

I think he should bow out at the 12th’s Regeneration.

59 KingKenrod  Nov 1, 2014 9:55:36pm
60 Whack-A-Mole  Nov 1, 2014 9:57:42pm

re: #51 Romantic Heretic

Still haven’t gotten around to trying a monk yet (I just started playing again a few months ago). I love playing my warlock though, especially for solo stuff.

61 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 9:59:14pm

I am so sorry to bring spoilers in here, but I have to inform everyone about a outbreak of festering assholes, if that is okay.

Page time

62 Jenner7  Nov 1, 2014 11:31:39pm

So, SNL was cringe worthy. Prince was he best part.

I think Che should have stayed with The Daily Show.

63 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 11:36:52pm
64 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 1, 2014 11:37:31pm

Catitude and politics. Hilarity with 9 lives.

65 sagehen  Nov 1, 2014 11:05:05pm

Was there anything good about the episode, other than the musical guest? Was Chris Rock’s monologue worth the time, was the cold open decent, was there a Gumby sketch?

Or should I not even bother pulling it up on Hulu?

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 1, 2014 11:11:13pm

Well that was fun climbing a stepladder to change the clock over the fake fireplace. Sheesh. One more argument in favor of dst only /////

67 KingKenrod  Nov 1, 2014 11:20:55pm

re: #65 sagehen

Was there anything good about the episode, other than the musical guest? Was Chris Rock’s monologue worth the time, was the cold open decent, was there a Gumby sketch?

Or should I not even bother pulling it up on Hulu?

Prince was great, Rock’s monologue was good, but took a while to get going (difficult subject matter). The rest of the show wasn’t very funny and was poorly rehearsed (which seems to be the norm these days). Cold open was meh.

68 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:29:44pm

LOL

69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:31:52pm

And this one is actually a wingnut:

71 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 11:47:59pm

So, now that ebola panic has faded from the public consciousness, I guess the latest outrageous outrage is Lena Dunham’s playing doctor with her little sister. And it seems it’s a flexible, all-purpose outrage: you can get pissed about race, privilege, politics, or sex, or any combination thereof.

72 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 11:48:39pm

re: #70 Varek Raith

Kirk Cameron denounced as ‘pagan’ and ‘papist’ for encouraging celebration of Halloween
Amused, I am.

I hope he dressed up like a crocoduck.

73 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:50:54pm

Another one. Seems like “white privilege” has become a universal beating stick.

74 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:53:41pm

re: #73 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Ha.

75 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 11:55:06pm

re: #73 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Another one. Seems like “white privilege” has become a universal beating stick.

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I can’t relate to the outrage, maybe because I’m white? I don’t know.

Are they angry because Dunham did it and non-whites never would, or because Dunham mentioned it in it a book and nothing will come of it, other than outrageous outrage?

76 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 1, 2014 11:56:06pm

re: #74 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Well, question answered.

Still makes no sense to me.

77 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:00:13am

re: #75 wheat-dogghazi-bola

“White privilege” is a meme that makes very good sense in a very specific context (certain structural advantages for whites in majority-white countries; the same goes for Russian privilege in Russia, Jewish privilege in Israel, Muslim privilege in certain theocracies, etc.; it’s really more of a “majority privilege”, though not always (apartheid)), but that can also be thrown around quite mindlessly at any opportunity, as the above tweets demonstrate.

78 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:02:19am
79 Varek Raith  Nov 2, 2014 1:03:40am

God damned aliens giving me time I don’t want!1!1ty

80 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:08:39am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Well, question answered.

Still makes no sense to me.

Your white privilege is showing!!1
/

81 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:17:52am

re: #80 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Your white privilege is showing!!1
/

Unfortunately, it has not translated into fame and fortune.

82 Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2014 1:19:15am

Look at Chuck trying to bash TPM to one of their investors, Marc Andreessen, because of the piece they did on his stalking of yours truly:

83 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:21:01am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Look at Chuck trying to bash TPM to one of their investors, Marc Andreesen, because of the piece they did on his stalking of yours truly:

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The political motive no doubt involves Thad Cochran. CCJ seems to have an obsession with that particular race.

84 Varek Raith  Nov 2, 2014 1:28:30am

Wayne Static died.
:(
cnn.com

85 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:29:42am

86 Kragar  Nov 2, 2014 1:37:08am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Look at Chuck trying to bash TPM to one of their investors, Marc Andreessen, because of the piece they did on his stalking of yours truly:

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87 Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2014 1:37:32am
88 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:42:42am

re: #87 Charles Johnson

That piece must’ve touched a nerve, heh.

89 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:45:43am

re: #78 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

So, I found this about that.
gossipcop.com

Judging from the excerpt, Grace Dunham, 1, and Lena D., 7, were playing in the driveway, and Lena, for some inexplicable reason, decided to look at Grace’s vagina and discovered her sister had put several pebbles in it. She told her mom, who then extricated the pebbles without apparently asking Lena why she was looking there in the first place.

Noteworthy points:
* This happened about 20 years ago, and memories can be hazy. Maybe Lena thought at the time little Grace had done something odd and wanted to see for herself.
* It happened in their driveway, so Lena was not fingering Grace in a dark room away from their parents. On the contrary, she called her mother out to help with the pebble extraction.
* Storing pebbles in one’s vagina is not a healthy choice, so Lena probably did Grace a big favor by exploring.
* They were little kids. Kids do weird stuff.
* If Grace had stuck the pebbles up her nose, or in her ears, it would be a funny, kids do the darndest things anecdote. But the pebbles were up “inside her down there” — omigod!! Sex abuse!! Perversion!! Sin!! 11ty!!
* The National Review is just full of shit.

90 Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2014 1:51:13am
91 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:53:51am

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-bola

It’s also about other alleged incidents, which can be more disturbing to some, but it’s still about very small children. I wouldn’t venture to say that there was “nothing” wrong going on, and I’m not saying that even a small child cannot be an abuser in some way in theory. I find this to be a borderline case, but screaming about “sexual abuse” in this context seems to stem more from a puritanical view of the world than anything else.

92 Floral Giraffe  Nov 2, 2014 1:57:59am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

He appears to have the whole Breitbart “if I can print it/ sing it long enough & loud enough” thing for attention going on.

93 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:58:09am

re: #91 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s also about other alleged incidents, which can be more disturbing to some, but it’s still about very small children. I wouldn’t venture to say that there was “nothing” wrong going on, and I’m not saying that even a small child cannot be an abuser in some way in theory. I find this to be a borderline case, but screaming about “sexual abuse” in this context seems to stem more from puritanical view of the world than anything else.

I read a couple of other excerpts. Lena D. likened her behavior to “sexual predator” behavior, but that’s her adult recounting of a childhood event. I’m not going to judge Lena D.’s psychological profile or behavior based on an autobiography. The only reason anyone is squawking about this book now is the National Review shaming article. It’s a mountain made from a molehill.

94 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:00:25am

re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I read a couple of other excerpts. Lena D. likened her behavior to “sexual predator” behavior, but that’s her adult recounting of a childhood event. I’m not going to judge Lena D.’s psychological profile or behavior based on an autobiography. The only reason anyone is squawking about this book now is the National Review shaming article. It’s a mountain made from a molehill.

Written by psychopathic Kevin Williamson, who wants women who’ve had abortions murdered.

95 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:04:05am

re: #94 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Written by psychopathic Kevin Williamson, who wants women who’ve had abortions murdered.

Williamson is wacked in the head.

96 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:05:18am

Dale Earnhardt Jr. @arkyhawg is in a war of words with some Dinesh D’Souza supporter. Fun to watch.

97 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 1:20:47am

98 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 1:35:49am

re: #97 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Heh. Good one.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 2, 2014 1:57:38am

Politico headline writer has a sense of humor and couldn’t resist…

100 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 2, 2014 5:34:10am

Heh:

12. Conservative blogger Charles C. Johnson

Why he’s scary: This wee, red-haired right-wing Hobbit is no longer content to try and insert himself into every breaking news story in the most obnoxious way possible. The man who outed nurse Nina Pham as testing positive for Ebola and published her address online has now decided to make some news of his own by stalking his biggest online critic, Charles Johnson of the blog Little Green Footballs, albeit at an address the latter Johnson occupied more than a decade ago.
Our tribute: Getting banned from Twitter, then reinstated, then banned again. Filing random class action suits.

The 25 scariest people who are making this Halloween the most frightful ever

rawstory.com

Rawstory, so I used Donotlink.

101 WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2014 5:51:23am

re: #45 Interesting Times

If slithering, festering, bogmonster (and one-time GOP party official) Todd Kincannon had his way, Dr. Craig Spencer would be executed, along with:

- Nina Pham
- Amber Vinson
- Kaci Hickox (even though she tested negative)

And Pham’s DOG.

102 Vicious Piebola  Nov 2, 2014 5:52:19am

re: #31 ipsos

Maybe where you live. When I added on to my house a few years back, I built with the intent of optimizing southern exposure. If the sun is out and it’s not completely clouded over (a crapshoot in an upstate NY winter, to be sure), my lights aren’t on and my heat’s not running as much as it is when it’s darker and cooler.

You’re mostly on target with your first statement: DST is absolutely a political decision about how to make clock time better correspond to solar time. But we all focus on the shortest day of the year, and on the shortest day of the year, we northerners are screwed no matter what. If the sun’s up when you’re driving to work, it’s dark when you drive home, and vice versa. What matters more, in a lot of ways, is the longest day of the year. Very few of us benefit from a sunrise at 3:45 AM clock-time. Many more of us benefit from a sunset in June or July at 8:30 PM instead of 7:30 PM. That’s the real win from daylight time up here in the north.

(And conversely, it’s why Arizona in particular sticks to not observing DST: when it’s 105 degrees in June, you want the sun going down at 7:30 instead of 8:30 on the clock so you can do more in the cooler evening hours before the clock says it’s bedtime. Again, it’s the long days of summer when DST vs. non-DST makes a difference, not winter.)

A road trip during the Thanksgiving-Christmas season has to be carefully planned. Some people (ahem) don’t like to drive at night and pull off at a motel stop on the road as the sun goes down. If there is bad weather, roads can freeze over after sundown and cause horrific accidents.

This actually happened to us on a road trip from Detroit to NYC in January 2012. It started to get dark at about 4:30 so we checked into a motel in Clarion, PA. About 20 minutes later, there was a 20-car pileup on the I-80 just a few miles back. Then there was another one in the Eastbound lanes.

103 BigPapa  Nov 2, 2014 5:58:57am

#tcot getting their morning Piebola I see… LULZ.

104 ipsos  Nov 2, 2014 6:16:50am

re: #102 Vicious Piebola

A road trip during the Thanksgiving-Christmas season has to be carefully planned. Some people (ahem) don’t like to drive at night and pull off at a motel stop on the road as the sun goes down. If there is bad weather, roads can freeze over after sundown and cause horrific accidents.

This actually happened to us on a road trip from Detroit to NYC in January 2012. It started to get dark at about 4:30 so we checked into a motel in Clarion, PA. About 20 minutes later, there was a 20-car pileup on the I-80 just a few miles back. Then there was another one in the Eastbound lanes.

Believe me, this I know. I have in-laws in the midwest, and so we’re plying the I-80/90 corridor pretty regularly in wintertime.

But again, the problem isn’t DST here; it’s the physical reality that there’s just not enough daylight to go around, period. Keep DST in place year-round and you get daylight hanging on until 5:30 in the depths of winter - but at the expense of a sunrise that now doesn’t happen until as late as 8:30-8:45 some mornings. That effects more than just kids walking to school. It has a huge effect on morning commutes all over.

The difference between 8.5 hours of midwinter daylight up north and 10.5-11 hours of daylight at southern latitudes is a huge one. No amount of tinkering with the clock in December can fix that. (None of which affects my overall support iof DST as a mechanism for making the long days of northern summer better correspond to inflexible clock time.)

105 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:31:43am
106 darthstar  Nov 2, 2014 6:34:23am

re: #105 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This just illustrates the unity within the future Soviet Socialist state.

107 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2014 6:34:53am

Is CCJ really so stupid as to think he can smear anyone he wants but it should be absolutely forbidden for someone to do the same to him?

Wait, nevermind, don’t answer that…

108 Jay C  Nov 2, 2014 6:40:37am

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

At least they’re both smiling……

109 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 6:42:15am

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Is CCJ really so stupid as to think he can smear anyone he wants but it should be absolutely forbidden for someone to do the same to him?

Wait, nevermind, don’t answer that…

He’s pretty thin-skinned to be an Award-Winning Journalist™. He ran away when we pressed him on his denial of publishing people’s private information online.

110 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:42:52am

Morning.

you?

111 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 6:43:47am

re: #110 FemNaziBitch

Morning.

you?

Late evening .. night, here. Also, no DST.

112 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:44:06am

Just as was the case with the Crimean “referendum”, the illegitimate election observers in DNR are either extreme right/neofascists or extreme left/neo-stalinists.

113 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:45:00am

re: #112 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Which underscores my point that the line between fascists and communists is pretty blurry.

114 BigPapa  Nov 2, 2014 6:45:28am

re: #111 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Late evening .. night, here. Also, no DST.

I’m in the No DST Club too. I feel… special.

115 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:45:31am

116 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 6:45:51am

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

rofl

117 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:46:32am

re: #113 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Which underscores my point that the line between fascists and communists is pretty blurry.

I’m beginning to think the line between fascists and capitalists is also blurry.

Then again, if we had a definition of fascism, it would be easier to determine.

118 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 6:47:32am

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

Probably a bit chilly where Marvin is.

119 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:48:22am

120 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 6:48:28am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

Here is one from the Free Dictionary: thefreedictionary.com

121 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:49:13am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

I’m beginning to think the line between fascists and capitalists is also blurry.

Then again, if we had a definition of fascism, it would be easier to determine.

We have it. It’s palingenetic ultranationalism. Which, historically, doesn’t contradict communism, despite the latter’s purported allegiance to internationalism.

122 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 2, 2014 6:49:22am

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m unable to understand his question “Sure there was no political motive?” He’s not, as far as I know, at all politically influential.

123 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:49:34am

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

Here is one from the Free Dictionary: thefreedictionary.com

But is fascism a form of government or an economic system?

124 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:50:47am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

Ideology.

125 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:51:13am

re: #121 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

We have it. It’s palingenetic ultranationalism. Which, historically, doesn’t contradict communism, despite the latter’s alleged allegiance to internationalism.

Palin genetic?

Just caught that at first glance —LOL

126 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 6:51:26am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

It seems to be a form of government. Please note the word “seems.”

127 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 6:51:50am

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, I was right. High of 4°C, low of -69°C.

cab.inta-csic.es

128 darthstar  Nov 2, 2014 6:52:08am

re: #110 FemNaziBitch

Morning.

you?

Mornin’ everyone.

It’s a beautiful sunrise here in the Sierras - up at Alpine Meadows for my patrol refresher. Got about a foot of snow yesterday, should make for a slippery walk down the mountain after we do our practice lift evacuations.

129 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:54:14am

I’m always reminded of the “Third Way” as the description of fascism. A middle ground between communism and capitalism. Which, IMHO, is another way of saying “mixed economy”.

Which is what we have now. —no?

130 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 6:54:30am

I am getting ready for election day. I am downloading the first season of Downton Abbey (from iTunes store) to my iPhone videos section. That should help reduce the boredom.

131 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:55:10am

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

Fascism isn’t about economy.

132 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:55:13am

re: #130 PhillyPretzel

I am getting ready for election day. I am downloading the first season of Downton Abbey (from iTunes store) to my iPhone videos section. That should help reduce the boredom.

I plan to be totally absorbed in an audio book.

133 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 6:55:18am

Morning Lizardim.

134 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 6:56:28am

re: #132 FemNaziBitch

That reminds me I have to charge up my kindle. And change the time on it. :/

135 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 6:57:12am

re: #131 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Fascism isn’t about economy.

We had a long discussion about this years ago. I think the consensus was to go with Orwell.

136 BigPapa  Nov 2, 2014 6:57:27am

Dim Hoft: BREAKING: THE CDC CHANGED SOMETHING! DROPLETSGHAZI!

CDC Does It Again… On Friday 6 Ft. Sneeze Droplets Could Infect - Now They Say Sneezing Can’t Infect

Do Not Link

137 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 6:57:54am

re: #134 PhillyPretzel

That reminds me I have to charge up my kindle. And change the time on it. :/

I ran around and changed all of the house clocks and both of the fishmobiles when I got up this morning. I was thinking about it when I got out of bed, I figured it’d probably be good to just get it over with before I got wrapped up in my day and forgot.

138 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 6:58:47am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

We had a long discussion about this years ago. I think the consensus was to go with H.G. Wells.

Not sure what Wells has to do with Orwell, but in any case, Orwell was not a scholar, political scientist, etc., so whatever he wrote is not quite relevant to the scholarly definition of fascism.

139 Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2014 6:58:48am
140 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:00:00am

re: #138 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Not sure what Wells has to do with Orwell, but in any case, Orwell was not a scholar, political scientist, etc., so whatever he wrote is not quite relevant to the scholarly definition of fascism.

Did you read his essay?

141 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:01:33am

re: #140 FemNaziBitch

Did you read his essay?

Yes, a long time ago.

142 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:01:56am

Since I’m on a Mars theme, here’s a selfie of the Curiosity rover.

Link

From April-May 2014, Sol 613 on Mars.

143 Vicious Piebola  Nov 2, 2014 7:02:05am

re: #103 BigPapa

#tcot getting their morning Piebola I see… LULZ.

I always catch some gun-fuckers in the Trollnet. LOL.

144 PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2014 7:02:40am

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola

It takes selfies too? Oh my.

145 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:04:19am

re: #144 PhillyPretzel

It takes selfies too? Oh my.

Well, there are no cats on Mars. So far, anyway.

146 Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2014 7:04:29am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

But is fascism a form of government or an economic system?

I think it is a mish mash of the two. Business has too much control of the government levers and the government (politicians) are there to keep the people in line (by dupe or force) and protect the business.

147 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:06:05am

Here’s the full-resolution image of Curiosity.
Image: curiosity-rover-selfie-Windjana-holes-PIA18390-full.jpg

The clarity is just amazing.

148 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:06:39am

re: #146 Eventual Carrion

Of course, fascism would also be fascism wherever business has no control of the govt whatsoever.

149 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:07:13am

re: #141 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Yes, a long time ago.

Palingenesis sounds more like a philosophic system than a form of government.

As a form of government, fascism is Totalitarian/One Party

150 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:08:07am

re: #149 FemNaziBitch

Palingenesis sounds more like a philosophic system than a form of government.

As a form of government, fascism is Totalitarian/One Party

Exactly. Political philosophy/ideology.

151 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2014 7:09:49am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

We had a long discussion about this years ago. I think the consensus was to go with Orwell.

Written 70 years ago and still prescient. Wow.

152 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2014 7:11:30am

re: #149 FemNaziBitch

Palingenesis sounds more like a philosophic system than a form of government.

As a form of government, fascism is Totalitarian/One Party

or One Religion.

153 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:11:52am

Earth and Moon as evening stars on Mars.

Image: PIA17936-MAIN-evening_star_annotated-full.jpg

We’re kinda small, dontcha know.

154 sattv4u2  Nov 2, 2014 7:12:23am

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Since I’m on a Mars theme, here’s a selfie of the Curiosity rover.
[Embedded image]

Link

From April-May 2014, Sol 613 on Mars.

Just over that hill is ocean view property going for $100,000 an acre!!!

155 Belafon  Nov 2, 2014 7:12:30am

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

I’m always reminded of the “Third Way” as the description of fascism. A middle ground between communism and capitalism. Which, IMHO, is another way of saying “mixed economy”.

Which is what we have now. —no?

Fascism has some connection to economics in that the government pushes private corporations so long as they support the state. But you can’t even draw a line between communism and capitalism. That would be like drawing a line between motorcycles and potatoes. I could see fascism as a capitalist style system (approaching an oligarchy) with a totalitarian government, but that defines the government as the combination of a political and economic component.

This does bring up an interesting question. We’ve seen democratic governments with nearly the full range of economies from capitalism to socialism. So what would be the words for democracy+capitalism and democracy+socialism?

156 Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2014 7:14:58am

re: #148 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Of course, fascism would also be fascism wherever business has no control of the govt whatsoever.

I see that as leaning closer towards totalitarian type government. Which as you say, business doesn’t have a lot of say in things.

157 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:16:28am

There is crony capitalism, in which business bosses and government work together to benefit each other.

158 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:16:37am

re: #155 Belafon

Fascism has some connection to economics in that the government pushes private corporations so long as they support the state. But you can’t even draw a line between communism and capitalism. That would be like drawing a line between motorcycles and potatoes. I could see fascism as a capitalist style system (approaching an oligarchy) with a totalitarian government, but that defines the government as the combination of a political and economic component.

This does bring up an interesting question. We’ve seen democratic governments with nearly the full range of economies from capitalism to socialism. So what would be the words for democracy+capitalism and democracy+socialism?<

I don’t know, make something up. It could sell a book if it’s catchy enough.

159 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 7:16:45am

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Since I’m on a Mars theme, here’s a selfie of the Curiosity rover.
[Embedded image]

Link

From April-May 2014, Sol 613 on Mars.

It looks like it could be any bright sunny morning in the American desert. Not millions of miles away.

160 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2014 7:17:21am

LGF: Possibly the one place on the Internet we can have a sensible conversation about Fascism and Socialism without a single mention of the word “Obama”.

God bless this place.

161 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 7:17:39am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

LGF: Possibly the one place on the Internet we can have a sensible conversation about Fascism and Socialism without a single mention of the word “Obama”.

God bless this place.

Well, now you’ve done it.///

162 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2014 7:17:42am

re: #157 wheat-dogghazi-bola

There is crony capitalism, in which business bosses and government work together to benefit each other.

Typically at the expense of everyone else. :(

163 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:18:20am

fascism = the trains run on-time!

164 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:19:17am

re: #159 theEbolafishlives

It looks like it could be any bright sunny morning in the American desert. Not millions of miles away.

That aspect captivates me. Mars is Earth-like enough to imagine standing on the surface — with the right suit. The banner image I use on my blog is a sunset on Mars, but you could mistake it for an Earth setting.

165 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:20:45am
166 BigPapa  Nov 2, 2014 7:21:07am

Historic Old Kona - The Big Island 1940 - Kona Side

Published on Oct 17, 2012
Recently discovered vintage, never before seen, 16mm films from a garage sale taken during a world tour in 1940. This digital conversion of a short portion of those films depict of The Big Island’s Kona side. From vintage coffee and cotton plantations, to The Kona Inn and a paniolo cattle drive from the past.

167 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:21:55am

re: #166 BigPapa

Historic Old Kona - The Big Island 1940 - Kona Side

Am not watching.

It will only depress me as I am not there now.

168 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 7:26:19am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi-bola

That aspect captivates me. Mars is Earth-like enough to imagine standing on the surface — with the right suit. The banner image I use on my blog is a sunset on Mars, but you could mistake it for an Earth setting.

It’s incredible, truly. Growing up, when all we had were a few scattered shots from the Viking landers and, later, some orbital mapping photos, it looked so alien and terrifying. Spirit, Opportunity, and Curiosity have really brought the red planet closer to our level.

169 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:26:46am

re: #156 Eventual Carrion

I see that as leaning closer towards totalitarian type government. Which as you say, business doesn’t have a lot of say in things.

Fascism is totalitarian. And a fascist state could have a fully socialist economy and still be fascist. Or it could be corporatist and be fascist. It’s not the economy that defines fascism.

170 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:27:55am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

LGF: Possibly the one place on the Internet we can have a sensible conversation about Fascism and Socialism without a single mention of the word “Obama”.

God bless this place.

You just did it. ;)

171 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:28:54am

re: #168 theEbolafishlives

It’s incredible, truly. Growing up, when all we had were a few scattered shots from the Viking landers and, later, some orbital mapping photos, it looked so alien and terrifying. Spirit, Opportunity, and Curiosity have really brought the red planet closer to our level.

Mars is one of the few places in the solar system that can give us that feeling. The Moon and Mercury are too barren, and places like the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are too exotic to be mistaken as Earth-like.

172 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:29:03am

White People kissing their dogs on the mouth

173 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:30:18am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

LGF: Possibly the one place on the Internet we can have a sensible conversation about Fascism and Socialism without a single mention of the word “Obama”.

God bless this place.

That’s because he sucks at both of them. Not even worth mentioning.

174 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:32:14am

There are plenty of fascist socialists in Russia.

175 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 2, 2014 7:32:32am

The common elements of fascism — extreme nationalism, social Darwinism, the leadership principle, elitism, anti-liberalism, anti-egalitarianism, anti-democracy, intolerance, glorification of war, the supremacy of the state and anti-intellectualism — together form a rather loose doctrine. Fascism emphasizes action rather than theory, and fascist theoretical writings are always weak. Hitler’s Nazism had rather more theory, though its intellectual quality is appalling. This greater theoretical content is mostly concerned with race, and it was Hitler’s racial theories that distinguished Nazism from Italian fascism.

Ian Adams, in Political Ideology Today (1993)

176 Vicious Piebola  Nov 2, 2014 7:33:00am

It was Zedushka’s birthday on Friday so we are going out for dinner this evening.

177 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 7:33:37am

re: #176 Vicious Piebola

It was Zedushka’s birthday on Friday so we are going out for dinner this evening.

Many happy returns.

178 Flounder  Nov 2, 2014 7:34:52am

I am not feeling a big Republican sweep this election cycle. I may be a little jaded since I live in upstate NY, and Rob Astorino reminds me of a Nazi war criminal, but that’s just me.

Rob Astorino

179 Vicious Piebola  Nov 2, 2014 7:35:29am

re: #178 Flounder

I am not feeling a big Republican sweep this election cycle. I may be a little jaded since I live in upstate NY, and Rob Astorino reminds me of a Nazi war criminal, but that’s just me.

Rob Astorino

He looks like Pee Wee Herman

180 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 2, 2014 7:38:54am

re: #179 Vicious Piebola

I agree with Flounder: Astorino has a Nuremberg Trials face.

181 Flounder  Nov 2, 2014 7:39:38am

re: #179 Vicious Piebola

Actually he reminds me of Ronald Lacey from Raiders of the Lost Ark

Ronald Lacey

182 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:42:16am

183 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:43:09am

re: #176 Vicious Piebola

It was Zedushka’s birthday on Friday so we are going out for dinner this evening.

What kind of pie did you put his birthday candles on?

184 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 2, 2014 7:45:48am

re: #182 FemNaziBitch

Nice. Even got some poor spelling to make them authentic.

On that note, I’m going to sleep here in the non-DST, one-party, capitalistic (with Chinese characteristics) Middle Kingdom. See y’all later on.

185 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:45:57am

I can’t believe this man would dare to make a prediction …

186 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:46:58am

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

This gives me hope. //

187 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:47:15am
188 FemNaziBitch  Nov 2, 2014 7:47:21am

bbl

189 Flounder  Nov 2, 2014 7:47:45am

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

Please refer to my #178

:)

190 Vicious Piebola  Nov 2, 2014 7:48:31am

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

What kind of pie did you put his birthday candles on?

I made an Amaretto cake, but it got stuck to the bundt pan & had to be extracted in chunks like a botched abortion.

We slathered it with whipped cream and MOAR AMARETTO

191 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 7:52:10am

re: #190 Vicious Piebola

Was it great or was it great?

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2014 7:54:35am
193 ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2014 7:57:01am

Morning. Brrrr. First morning with central Ohio temps below freezing. 27°

So, I saw the tweet with little imp Chucky C complaining about the TPM article being a hit piece.

Doesn’t Chucky claim he is non-political and doesn’t vote or something like that? So, is he bitching that TPM labels him a right winger blogger? Or, is he pissed that it is TPM that wrote the article???

It’s hard to keep up with his crap because he is all over the damn place.

194 Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2014 8:07:24am

re: #60 Whack-A-Mole

Still haven’t gotten around to trying a monk yet (I just started playing again a few months ago). I love playing my warlock though, especially for solo stuff.

Playing a warlock with my wife. It is fun.

195 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 8:10:24am

re: #194 Romantic Heretic

Playing a warlock with my wife. It is fun.

Ah, so we have more WoW-aholics here at LGF, I see.

196 Flounder  Nov 2, 2014 8:10:46am

The twins from The Shining are all grown up…The Shining

197 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:11:21am

...

198 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:13:07am

re: #194 Romantic Heretic

Playing a warlock with my wife. It is fun.

I put on my robe and my wizard hat…

199 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 2, 2014 8:20:20am

re: #20 ipsos

To those who would say DST “serves no real purpose,” I’d offer this: in southern California, the shortest day of the year has just under 10 hours of daylight and the sun is up before 7 even on standard time. The longest day of the year is just over 14 hours of daylight, and the sun would be up just before 5 on standard time….

I see you are still logged in. Great points, I have had the habit of disliking dst. Arizona does without it. But you made me realize this is more of a latitude problem than time zone (vertical segments by necessity) or state problem. The southern tier could do without, the north really can’t. California would split this one I think.

So as a society we fail to deal with this the best way. Given current technology centering clocks to have noon at solar noon all year long would be trivial in terms of technology. But stubborn humans can’t imagine a sliding work schedule I suppose. Or a day that is not quite 24 hours long and avoid leap year.

Anyway on this morning we are all adjusting I offer this link to a nice Wired pictorial. Some product to make getting up early suck less like clever clocks that wake you gently or in rhythm with your REM sleep.

Wake up easy.

200 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 2, 2014 8:24:39am

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

201 Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2014 8:28:15am

re: #200 RealityBasedEbola

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

202 Varek Raith  Nov 2, 2014 8:29:02am

re: #200 RealityBasedEbola

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

Classic site is classic.

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

en.wikipedia.org

203 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 8:29:04am

re: #200 RealityBasedEbola

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

No. Just, no.

204 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 2, 2014 8:29:31am

and for those who missed it last night (like me), Prince just killed it on SNL


Hulu Video

RBS

205 ipsos  Nov 2, 2014 8:29:48am

re: #199 Rightwingconspirator

So as a society we fail to deal with this the best way. Given current technology centering clocks to have noon at solar noon all year long would be trivial in terms of technology. But stubborn humans can’t imagine a sliding work schedule I suppose. Or a day that is not quite 24 hours long and avoid leap year.

I can easily imagine a sliding work schedule, and I’m lucky enough to be able to do a lot of my work as a freelancer from home on just such a schedule.

But I also know that most of us in our society don’t have that luxury. If I worked in finance, I’d be tied to markets that open in New York when the clock strikes 9:30 and close when the clock strikes 4, no matter where the sun happens to be above my city. If I worked at McDonald’s and my shift was 8 to 5, I don’t think the boss would be too impressed with me telling him solar noon should actually be when my clock says 1:35 PM.

Changing the clock twice a year is probably an easier task than changing society…

206 Varek Raith  Nov 2, 2014 8:30:01am

re: #203 theEbolafishlives

No. Just, no.

Probably the craziest site on the net.

207 theEbolafishlives  Nov 2, 2014 8:31:11am

re: #206 Varek Raith

Probably the craziest site on the net.

Yeah, I know all about Time Cube from my work at the forum formerly known as JREF smacking down crazies. It might as well come with a warning: “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”

208 Ebolangelus  Nov 2, 2014 8:33:58am

re: #200 RealityBasedEbola

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

* Checks link *

209 sagehen  Nov 2, 2014 8:35:12am
210 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:36:32am

re: #206 Varek Raith

Probably the craziest site on the net.

Outside Goat News and Jim Dim’s.

211 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:43:43am

The IPCC synthesis report:

ipcc.ch

212 ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2014 8:46:09am

re: #209 sagehen

when someone mentions mars, I always flash on this xkcd

I know it is just a machine, but that comic did make me a little sad. Poor little rover. Awwww.

213 Dark_Falcon  Nov 2, 2014 8:52:00am

re: #212 ObserverArt

I know it is just a machine, but that comic did make me a little sad. Poor little rover. Awwww.

Me too. Well, when we travel to Mars we should make bringing back the rover part of the mission.

214 Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2014 8:52:01am

re: #119 FemNaziBitch

And it is the thing that always destroys an economic system.

Does a good job on businesses as well.

215 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:53:56am
It is anticipated that the Fifth Assessment Report will pave the way for a global, legally binding treaty on reducing carbon emissions at the UN Climate Change Conference in Paris during late 2015.

Yeah, sure.

216 Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2014 8:57:03am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

I’m beginning to think the line between fascists and capitalists is also blurry.

Then again, if we had a definition of fascism, it would be easier to determine.

Jefferson’s definitions work better for me.

Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, liberals and serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, whigs and tories, republicans and federalists, aristocrats and democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last appellation of aristocrats and democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all.
• Letter to Henry Lee (10 August 1824).

I add a third definition; barbarian. Described by H. Beam Piper as “Someone who doesn’t understand civilization and wouldn’t like it if they did.”

The ‘old GOP’ and the ‘conservatives’ in other countries are the aristocrats of today’s politics. The Tea Party and similar groups are the barbarians.

217 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 8:57:17am
Working Group I Report (WGI): Focusing on the physical science basis and including 258 experts.
Working Group II Report (WGII): Assessing the impacts, adaptation strategies and vulnerability related to climate change and involving 302 experts.
Working Group III Report (WGIII): Covering mitigation response strategies in an integrated risk and uncertainty framework and its assessments carried out by 271 experts.
The Synthesis Report (SYR): Final summary and overview.

Pfff. What do the eggheads know. God promised in the Bible that there will be no globull worming.

218 Dark_Falcon  Nov 2, 2014 9:06:36am

re: #215 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Yeah, sure.

To that UN report I reply: “And you’re going to get China to sign onto carbon limits and not cheat how exactly? Because if you expect the US to agree to any treaty not doing just that, you’re dreamin’, pal. Offshoring is already enough of a problem and treaty that bound the US but not China would make it worse!”

219 De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2014 9:06:48am

NY Times reports that “At least 15 people were killed and nine others were injured in accidents and a fire connected to the [Halloween] festivities in the past few days, in states from California to New York, and Washington to Maine.”

All of the incidents involved automobiles.

220 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 2, 2014 9:07:08am

re: #212 ObserverArt

I know it is just a machine, but that comic did make me a little sad. Poor little rover. Awwww.

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

Me too. Well, when we travel to Mars we should make bringing back the rover part of the mission.

You guys follow Sarcastic rover?

221 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 9:10:34am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Youtube Video

222 BeachDem  Nov 2, 2014 9:12:05am

re: #178 Flounder

I am not feeling a big Republican sweep this election cycle. I may be a little jaded since I live in upstate NY, and Rob Astorino reminds me of a Nazi war criminal, but that’s just me.

Rob Astorino

But, but, the New York Times said Astorino had “hair impeccably coifed” and that he “radiates next-door-neighbor charm with his dimpled smile and ready quips.”

(He totally creeps me out, both in appearance and in the ugly things he’s done in Westchester County.)

223 Dark_Falcon  Nov 2, 2014 9:13:18am

re: #220 Rightwingconspirator

You guys follow Sarcastic rover?

[Embedded content]

Yeah, bring the Sarcastic Rover back to Earth, repair it and make it the Official White House Unmanned Vehicle. It can roll around snapping awkward photos of politicians, documenting the misdeeds of the White House pets, and snarking about it all.

/kidding, but wouldn’t that be fun.

224 Bear  Nov 2, 2014 9:13:33am

Hope that all of you survived the time change without too much of a problem. However I must confess that when I tried to reset my wrist watch it locked up. Looks like a trip to the store is scheduled.

225 Dark_Falcon  Nov 2, 2014 9:15:54am

re: #222 BeachDem

But, but, the New York Times said Astorino had “hair impeccably coifed” and that he “radiates next-door-neighbor charm with his dimpled smile and ready quips.”

(He totally creeps me out, both in appearance and in the ugly things he’s done in Westchester County.)

Of course that candidate isn’t doing well, since that description would also work for Mitt Romney, minus only the dimples.

226 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 2, 2014 9:17:22am

Sunday, cooking day.
Brunch at the 3 Lizard Lair-
Apple pancakes with cinnamon, bacon and mimosas or coffee.
Dinner-
Pasta with fresh herb sauce and sauteed chicken tenders.
Put a nap in the middle and that’s a Sunday.

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, bring the Sarcastic Rover back to Earth, repair it and make it the Official White House Unmanned Vehicle. It can roll around snapping awkward photos of politicians, documenting the misdeeds of the White House pets, and snarking about it all.

/kidding, but wouldn’t that be fun.

I fully expect it to be the centerpiece in the colony town square under the dome one day.

227 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 2, 2014 9:27:39am

That’s what I call a brilliant formulation!

Gene Ray, born Otis Eugene Ray, is a former electrician and inventor who actively promoted the game of marbles.[1] Sometime after losing his own, he created the idea and the website for Time Cube in August 1997.

rationalwiki.org

228 Bear  Nov 2, 2014 9:37:51am

Eureka! Got the time and date set!! Just kept poking buttons.

229 BigPapa  Nov 2, 2014 9:55:20am

re: #200 RealityBasedEbola

The answer to daylight savings time and all the other issues is revealed in the TimeCube

RBS

230 De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2014 10:30:05am

Correction to my previous comment: All but one of the incidents involved automobiles. Carry on and be careful out there.


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