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1 Kragar  Nov 3, 2014 3:30:52pm

OFFS

2 Jenner7  Nov 3, 2014 3:32:28pm

Re-posted from downstairs.

Officers justified in Darrien Hunt shooting

kutv.com

3 dog philosopher  Nov 3, 2014 3:33:42pm

the real reason the gop promotes “federalism” is that every politician knows it’s much easier to bury crap, corruption, hanky-panky, monkey business, pork and regulatory bypasses for your business friends, and out and out repression of non corporate type people in the state legislature than in the congress in DC

much easier

see caro’s book on robert moses

4 Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2014 3:35:01pm

re: #1 Kragar

OFFS

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Who really gives a fuck what Chomsky has to say?

5 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2014 3:38:13pm

re: #1 Kragar

OFFS

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GG & his huffing minions terrify easily.

6 b_sharp  Nov 3, 2014 3:38:21pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

Who really gives a fuck what Chomsky has to say?

He’s gone emeritus.

7 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 3:38:47pm

re: #6 b_sharp

He’s gone emeritus.

Is that like going plaid?

8 b_sharp  Nov 3, 2014 3:39:46pm

re: #7 klystron

Is that like going plaid?

Pretty much.

9 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 3:40:31pm
10 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 3:50:00pm

Because really, my trip to Yellowstone would have been so much better had there been more WiFi.

11 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 3:54:09pm

Speaking of state legislators, this guy will probably win a seat in the Colorado state house.

12 allegro  Nov 3, 2014 3:55:47pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Because really, my trip to Yellowstone would have been so much better had there been more WiFi.

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I actually think that would be money well spent and with potentially really good return. People could live tweet or blog or whatever their experiences in the parks to increase attention and visitors. It would be a lot easier to attract many of today’s travelers to provide that service as well. One could argue safety and security issues also.

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2014 3:58:31pm

jeebus…just when ya thought UpChuck couldn’t get any creepier…

He wants to hear Dunham’s little sister talk about her “rape”.

14 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 3:59:08pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

Speaking of state legislators, this guy will probably win a seat in the Colorado state house.

BTW, I’ll bet that Rockingham County, NC magistrate barely had a HS diploma. You don’t have to really have to have qualifications in NC to be one—just kiss somebody’s ass a lot at the local courthouse. As a former paralegal, I ran into a couple like him even in Mecklenburg County (Charlotte).

So it’s no surprise to me that some yokel resigned his “job” over gay people getting married.

15 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 3:59:57pm

re: #12 allegro

I actually think that would be money well spent and with potentially really good return. People could live tweet or blog or whatever their experiences in the parks to increase attention and visitors. It would be a lot easier to attract many of today’s travelers to provide that service as well. One could argue safety and security issues also.

No.

Wilderness is there for us so we can get away from civilization. You want to blog about your trip to the wilderness? Take a camera and a notebook then put it on the internet when you get home. WiFi in our wild lands will take more away from the wilderness experience. First world folks are too plugged in as it is, slaves to our smartphones.

16 allegro  Nov 3, 2014 4:05:23pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

No.

Wilderness is there for us so we can get away from civilization. You want to blog about your trip to the wilderness? Take a camera and a notebook then put it on the internet when you get home. WiFi in our wild lands will take more away from the wilderness experience. First world folks are too plugged in as it is, slaves to our smartphones.

I think wilderness is there for all of us to experience in our own individual ways. I adamantly disagree that there is only one “right and proper” way to do it. As no harm is done, so let it be.

17 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 4:05:57pm

Apparently Brittany Maynard’s death was a publicity stunt, who knew?

18 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 4:06:19pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

No.

Wilderness is there for us so we can get away from civilization. You want to blog about your trip to the wilderness? Take a camera and a notebook then put it on the internet when you get home. WiFi in our wild lands will take more away from the wilderness experience. First world folks are too plugged in as it is, slaves to our smartphones.

I agree. HOWEVER. Wireless access in Yellowstone is already restricted to five areas (the ones the bulk of the tourists see) and the coverage is extremely stressed during the summer. There are no plans to change what areas have coverage; what is being proposed is trying to keep coverage in the existing areas usable, from what it sounds like.

I would argue that Old Faithful in the summer is pretty far from a wilderness experience as it is.

19 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:07:23pm

And I just got a call from the Human Rights Campaign endorsing Hagan, to which I listened respectfully. I thought when she ran she sounded like a centrist (to the right of me), and she has often said she is. But I vote for her anyway.

President Obama cuts radio ad endorsing North Carolina Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan’s campaign - @politico
read more on politico.com

20 makeitstop  Nov 3, 2014 4:09:49pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…just when ya thought UpChuck couldn’t get any creepier…

He wants to hear Dunham’s little sister talk about her “rape”.

‘Talk slower…’

21 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:09:52pm

re: #18 klystron

I would argue that Old Faithful in the summer is pretty far from a wilderness experience as it is.

Yup. Like Ed Abbey said, if you want to experience the wilderness, you have to get out of your damn steel chariot and walk several miles into the interior, crawl on your hands and knees if you have to.

When I go to wilderness, the phone gets left in the center console in my car.

22 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:11:08pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

Apparently Brittany Maynard’s death was a publicity stunt, who knew?

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That same lady tweeted me earlier.

That was retweeted by UpChuck.

23 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:11:35pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

Apparently Brittany Maynard’s death was a publicity stunt, who knew?

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Hopefully, Lieb will never have brain cancer and suffer the awful seizures that Brittany did.

While we all want to keep those closest to us for as long as we can, it’s up to the dying person to make this choice.

I wish we hadn’t had to disconnect my son from life support after his cardiac arrest, but we knew he wanted that—we often have those conversations with one another in my family.

24 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 4:11:51pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Yup. Like Ed Abbey said, if you want to experience the wilderness, you have to get out of your damn steel chariot and walk several miles into the interior, crawl on your hands and knees if you have to.

When I go to wilderness, the phone gets left in the center console in my car.

Right. So. Should phones work at Old Faithful then? Because the load during the summer exceeds the capacity in the park, and part of what that article you linked is about is increasing the capability of the park to support that.

It’s not about having wifi in the backcountry.

25 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 3, 2014 4:12:30pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…just when ya thought UpChuck couldn’t get any creepier…

He wants to hear Dunham’s little sister talk about her “rape”.

The guy is a sociopath with a megaphone. I will be glad when someone sues his ass for defamation eventually.

26 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 4:13:39pm

I don’t get how people can be so intentionally gross and disrespectful of the recently departed.

27 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:17:39pm

re: #24 klystron

Right. So. Should phones work at Old Faithful then? Because the load during the summer exceeds the capacity in the park, and part of what that article you linked is about is increasing the capability of the park to support that.

It’s not about having wifi in the backcountry.

Ya sure, set up cell towers along the road.

I still think we should encourage unplugging instead of plugging in when visiting National Parks, Forests, and Wilderness areas.

“It had nothing to do with gear or footwear or the backpacking fads or philosophies of any particular era or even with getting from point A to point B.

It had to do with how it felt to be in the wild. With what it was like to walk for miles with no reason other than to witness the accumulation of trees and meadows, mountains and deserts, streams and rocks, rivers and grasses, sunrises and sunsets. The experience was powerful and fundamental. It seemed to me that it had always felt like this to be a human in the wild, and as long as the wild existed it would always feel this way.”
― Cheryl Strayed

Even if you only drive up to the edge of wilderness, or just see Old Faithful and the Lake, being plugged in takes away from the experience.

Just one man’s opinion. I’m sure there are many who’d be delighted to tweet out the instance they saw a herd of elk cross the road.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2014 4:18:12pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

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I don’t get how people can be so intentionally gross and disrespectful of the recently departed.

It’s probably because they are all publicity-stunted in their own pathetic lives.

29 retired cynic  Nov 3, 2014 4:20:48pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

A publicity stunt? What a jerk.

30 allegro  Nov 3, 2014 4:24:33pm

Oh FFS, there was just a Dan Patrick ad that started with ISIS coming across the Mexican border. That is one creepy, lying ass scum puddle. And he will probably become our Lt Gov tommorow.

I am depress.

31 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:24:45pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Ya sure, set up cell towers along the road.

I still think we should encourage unplugging instead of plugging in when visiting National Parks, Forests, and Wilderness areas.

Even if you only drive up to the edge of wilderness, or just see Old Faithful and the Lake, being plugged in takes away from the experience.

Just one man’s opinion. I’m sure there are many who’d be delighted to tweet out the instance they saw a herd of elk cross the road.

I really agree w/you, having been a camper in a past life (rough and not-so-rough camping).

And I felt sorry for the 3 very young deer (no larger than German Shepherds) that were crossing the road in front of me at the lake the other day. Surrounded as closely as their “territory” is by developments, they had little choice but to take a chance against civilization. No—I was, thankfully, going slowly, having just come out from a boat landing, and none were hurt.

32 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:25:18pm

Winter’s almost here, and that’s great (skiing!)!

It always takes a bit of time to get used to this being plunged into darkness so early.

33 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:27:41pm

re: #30 allegro

Oh FFS, there was just a Dan Patrick ad that started with ISIS coming across the Mexican border. That is one creepy, lying ass scum puddle. And he will probably become our Lt Gov tommorow.

I am depress.

Maybe in two years people will finally get sick and tired of talk radio politics.

34 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 4:27:59pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Ya sure, set up cell towers along the road.

I still think we should encourage unplugging instead of plugging in when visiting National Parks, Forests, and Wilderness areas.

Even if you only drive up to the edge of wilderness, or just see Old Faithful and the Lake, being plugged in takes away from the experience.

Just one man’s opinion. I’m sure there are many who’d be delighted to tweet out the instance they saw a herd of elk cross the road.

I don’t envy the park service having to deal with the balance of meeting the expectations of all the people who come to the park while also balancing protecting the natural resources of the park. I find that their compromise of allowing wireless access in select areas to be an appropriate one in this instance, and recognize the challenges involved in supporting that.

For what it is worth, I appreciated being able to call my parents the morning after I got engaged at Old Faithful and share the news with them.

You feel that the very act of being plugged in takes something away from the experience and want to make that decision for other people. I think the park service does a reasonable job of providing a whole lot of the park that caters to that mindset while still making the edge accessible to those who feel differently.

35 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 4:29:22pm
36 b_sharp  Nov 3, 2014 4:29:43pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…just when ya thought UpChuck couldn’t get any creepier…

He wants to hear Dunham’s little sister talk about her “rape”.

What rape?

Since rape is violence masquerading as sex where was the violence? Where was the sex?

We shouldn’t assume rape in the case of a curious 7 year old unless there were other indicators.

37 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:30:17pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2014 4:30:26pm

re: #36 b_sharp

What rape?

Since rape is violence masquerading as sex where was the violence? Where was the sex?

We shouldn’t assume rape in the case of a curious 7 year old unless there were other indicators.

that’s why I put “rape” in quotes. It was his word.

39 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 4:31:17pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

Chuck C is of course opposed to a woman making decisions about her life and death.
nbcnews.com

40 b_sharp  Nov 3, 2014 4:32:38pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

that’s why I put “rape” in quotes. It was his word.

I wasn’t responding directly to you but to your justifiable characterization of it as a phony outrage. It was a direct message to the numbskull who called it rape - Gabby Johnson.

41 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:33:20pm

re: #34 klystron

You feel that the very act of being plugged in takes something away from the experience and want to make that decision for other people.

Whoa whoa whoa. If you’re referencing #15 that’s not what I said. I don’t want to make decisions about how people enjoy the wilderness, that would make me an asshole. I merely suggested ways you can “take only pictures and leave only footprints” without a device connected to the internet.

42 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 4:34:24pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

Whoa whoa whoa. If you’re referencing #15 that’s not what I said. I don’t want to make decisions about how people enjoy the wilderness, that would make me an asshole. I merely suggested ways you can “take only pictures and leave only footprints” without a device connected to the internet.

re: #27 teleskiguy

Ya sure, set up cell towers along the road.

I still think we should encourage unplugging instead of plugging in when visiting National Parks, Forests, and Wilderness areas.

Even if you only drive up to the edge of wilderness, or just see Old Faithful and the Lake, being plugged in takes away from the experience.

Just one man’s opinion. I’m sure there are many who’d be delighted to tweet out the instance they saw a herd of elk cross the road.

Just pointing out what prompted my response.

43 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:36:35pm

re: #42 klystron

That doesn’t sound to me like “want[ing] to make that decision for other people.”

44 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:39:29pm

Whatever. After the Republicans take over congress, we’ll have new things to worry about with our wild lands. Strip mines, clear cut forests, polluted rivers, exacerbated climate change that’ll decimate entire ecosystems. There’s Republicans who want to retake all our federal land for development. There’s a developer who wants to build million dollar homes on the north rim of the Black Canyon in Colorado.

Wilderness is anathema to your average conservative in the US.

45 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 4:44:30pm
In late August, Truthy began to draw scathing criticism from political conservatives in the media and government, who claim it is really part of an attempt by the Obama administration to monitor and stifle free speech. Truthy’s leaders steadfastly reject that claim. But along the way, the Indiana scientists have learned a hard lesson: The media are equally good at promoting new knowledge and spreading falsehoods.

No kidding.

46 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:44:39pm

This is a very chilling video:

nbcphiladelphia.com

47 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 4:45:19pm

Why do sometimes my quoted sections look different than other times?

48 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:46:13pm

President Obama to meet with national security and public health teams Tuesday to receive update on Ebola response, White House announces - statement
end of alert

49 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:47:40pm

OK, it’s chock full of egregious stereotypes, still, I found it funny.

50 Kragar  Nov 3, 2014 4:47:44pm

re: #47 freetoken

Why do sometimes my quoted sections look different than other times?

Because you’re a sinner.
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51 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 4:48:35pm

N.C. man tests negative for Ebola

usatoday.com

He had no contact w/anyone w/Ebola while in Liberia.

52 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 4:49:29pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

That doesn’t sound to me like “want[ing] to make that decision for other people.”

I apologize, then. I interpreted your desk flipping gif and other comments in this thread as extremely anti-connectivity in the national parks, even on a mild basis like what the park service has instituted - which, to eliminate that would be to make the decision for other people that they can not use their devices in the park.

53 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 4:50:39pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

“N.C. man tested for Ebola after he mentioned Liberia.”

54 b_sharp  Nov 3, 2014 4:53:15pm

re: #47 freetoken

Why do sometimes my quoted sections look different than other times?

Different shift of unionised hamsters.

55 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 4:53:58pm

Remember that post by me, of the story from Australia about the airport which banned a (simple) climate change billboard because it was too “political”.

Well, guess what:

Airport chairman drawn into climate billboard furore

The Brisbane Airport says its chairman’s position on a coal mining company’s board had nothing to do with it rejecting climate change advertising from being displayed in the arrivals hall during G20.

[…]

“BAC’s policy in regard to advertising on site is that we do not accept advertising from political parties, interest groups or individuals that has a political intent,” a spokeswoman told AAP.

“The examples in this particular case were deemed to have political intent as they were designed to generate a political response on a specific policy issue.

“There was no value judgment made in relation to the message.”

BAC’s chairman Bill Grant also serves as a non-executive director on board of New Hope Group - a coal mining, oil and port operation company.

56 darthstar  Nov 3, 2014 4:55:11pm
57 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 4:58:41pm

re: #52 klystron

I apologize, then. I interpreted your desk flipping gif and other comments in this thread as extremely anti-connectivity in the national parks, even on a mild basis like what the park service has instituted - which, to eliminate that would be to make the decision for other people that they can not use their devices in the park.

re: #27 teleskiguy

I still think we should encourage unplugging instead of plugging in when visiting National Parks, Forests, and Wilderness areas.

OK, I think I’ve said all that I need to say. To go any further would be to

58 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 4:59:49pm
59 dog philosopher  Nov 3, 2014 5:00:23pm

a simulacrum, it seems, is not ordinarily made with simulac

that is all

60 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:00:44pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

She retweets Todd Kincannon.

Forget it Frank, it’s Twittertown.

61 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 5:00:54pm
62 austin_blue  Nov 3, 2014 5:01:10pm

re: #30 allegro

Oh FFS, there was just a Dan Patrick ad that started with ISIS coming across the Mexican border. That is one creepy, lying ass scum puddle. And he will probably become our Lt Gov tommorow.

I am depress.

Yes, and as a former RW Shock Jock, he will be the most influential politician in Texas (weak Governor state). The man will only fly on airplanes with two right wings and rodeo clowns for pilots.

What a fun four years we’ll have in The Lone Star State!

63 Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2014 5:01:18pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

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Does she feel that it’s better to spend ones last days writhing in pain in a hospital bed? Think that’s the way people want to remember their loved ones last days, praying constantly for the sweet release of death?

64 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 5:03:51pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Does she feel that it’s better to spend ones last days writhing in pain in a hospital bed?

Yes. They don’t like people making their own choices.

65 dog philosopher  Nov 3, 2014 5:04:21pm

re: #53 jaunte

“N.C. man tested for Ebola after he mentioned Liberia.”

what would they have done to him if he had mentioned ‘logic’ or ‘facts’?

66 gwangung  Nov 3, 2014 5:05:06pm

re: #65 dog philosopher

what would they have done to him if he had mentioned ‘logic’ or ‘facts’?

Lobotomy.

67 Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2014 5:05:55pm

re: #64 jaunte

Yes. They don’t like people making their own choices.

That’s what always gets to me, the people who preach that their deity blessed us with free will absolutely against the idea of us actually exercising it. “He has a plan!” Really, is that why he gave me inoperable brain cancer?

68 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 3, 2014 5:08:13pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

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Lem’me guess… she considers herself a great Christian? < spit >

That’s a horrific way to die with a median survival of 14.6 months and a cognitive decline that makes Alzheimer’s look benign.

I don’t know the answer to these kind of questions though I’d probably be eyeing my 1911 if I received that diagnosis.

69 Kragar  Nov 3, 2014 5:08:18pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

That’s what always gets to me, the people who preach that their deity blessed us with free will absolutely against the idea of us actually exercising it. “He has a plan!” Really, is that why he gave me inoperable brain cancer?

No, he did that because all available evidence points to him being a real dick.

70 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 5:10:02pm

re: #16 allegro

I think wilderness is there for all of us to experience in our own individual ways. I adamantly disagree that there is only one “right and proper” way to do it. As no harm is done, so let it be.

I will enjoy the wilderness by reading C.J. Box novels.

71 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:10:41pm

UpChuck and our new pal Laurel (and all the rest that think like them) are ghouls. They would rather their loved ones die in writhing pain whilst attached to machines and tubes in a hospital bed surrounded by strangers.

Brittany Maynard died at home surrounded by loved ones. She took some drugs, fell asleep and didn’t wake up. She’s no longer suffering. And I applaud her advocacy of Death with Dignity.

72 austin_blue  Nov 3, 2014 5:11:04pm

re: #69 Kragar

No, he did that because all available evidence points to him being a real dick.

“God answers dying boy’s prayers, says ‘No!’.”

Best Onion Headline Evah.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 3, 2014 5:11:15pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

That’s what always gets to me, the people who preach that their deity blessed us with free will absolutely against the idea of us actually exercising it. “He has a plan!” Really, is that why he gave me inoperable brain cancer?

That’s one of the places I get off the bus full of fundies real fast. I do believe that we have complete free will and that all this c**p about things like election, predestination & “he has a plan!11ty!” is utterly incompatible with how Jesus teaches people to live.

74 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 5:12:32pm
75 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:14:31pm

re: #72 austin_blue

“God answers dying boys prayers, says ‘No!’.”

Best Onion Headline Evah.

God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy

“No,” Says God

SAN FRANCISCO-For as long as he can remember, 7-year-old Timmy Yu has had one precious dream: From the bottom of his heart, he has hoped against hope that God would someday hear his prayer to walk again. Though many thought Timmy’s heavenly plea would never be answered, his dream finally came true Monday, when the Lord personally responded to the wheelchair-bound boy’s prayer with a resounding no.

“I knew that if I just prayed hard enough, God would hear me,” said the joyful Timmy, surrounded by stuffed animals sent by well-wishing Christians from around the globe, as he sat in the wheelchair to which he will be confined for the rest of his life. “And now my prayer has been answered. I haven’t been this happy since before the accident, when I could walk and play with the other children like a normal boy.”

God’s response came at approximately 10 a.m. Monday, following a particularly fervent Sunday prayer session by little Timmy. Witnesses said God issued His miraculous answer in the form of a towering column of clouds, from which poured forth great beams of Divine light and the music of the Heavenly Hosts. The miraculous event took place in the Children’s Special Care Ward of St. Luke’s Hospital, where Timmy goes three times a week for an excruciating two-hour procedure to drain excess fluid from his damaged spinal column.

Said Angela Schlosser, a day nurse who witnessed the Divine Manifestation: “An incredible, booming voice said to Timmy, ‘I am the Lord thy God, who created the rivers and the mountains, the heavens and the earth, the sun and the moon and the stars. Before Me sits My beloved child, whose faith is that of the mustard seed from which grows mighty and powerful things. My child, Timmy Yu, I say unto you thus: I have heard your prayers, and now I shall answer them. No, you cannot get out of your wheelchair. Not ever.”

76 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 5:15:25pm

re: #52 klystron

I apologize, then. I interpreted your desk flipping gif and other comments in this thread as extremely anti-connectivity in the national parks, even on a mild basis like what the park service has instituted - which, to eliminate that would be to make the decision for other people that they can not use their devices in the park.

That would suck when you’re on a trail ride, 3 days out from “civilization” & your horse throws you, breaking a leg, and you don’t have GPS to let the rescue choppers know where to get you. (C.J. Box)

Or you’re snake bit. (True Grit)

77 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 5:17:57pm

re: #74 freetoken

Because:

Why the French state has a team of UFO hunters

Which reminds me: My grandson’s recently purchased used Toyota Camry was driven from New Mexico and has a Roswell Toyota sticker on the back, which he loves. : )

78 Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2014 5:21:39pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

UpChuck and our new pal Laurel (and all the rest that think like them) are ghouls. They would rather their loved ones die in writhing pain whilst attached to machines and tubes in a hospital bed surrounded by strangers.

Brittany Maynard died at home surrounded by loved ones. She took some drugs, fell asleep and didn’t wake up. She’s no longer suffering. And I applaud her advocacy of Death with Dignity.

Hasn’t that been something we’ve all said or heard another say in our lives? “I’d rather go peacefully in my sleep”? So why on Earth would one feel that choosing to do that is wrong, compared to lying in agony in a hospital bed?

79 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 5:26:26pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

“Crabs-in-a-bucket” syndrome.

80 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 5:27:00pm

re: #47 freetoken

Why do sometimes my quoted sections look different than other times?

Beats me

81 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 5:27:11pm

“How dare that woman escape the suffering I will probably have to go through.”

82 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:27:42pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Hasn’t that been something we’ve all said or heard another say in our lives? “I’d rather go peacefully in my sleep”? So why on Earth would one feel that choosing to do that is wrong, compared to lying in agony in a hospital bed?

There’s money to be made to prolong the lives of the elderly and infirmed.

83 Belafon  Nov 3, 2014 5:28:08pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

N.C. man tests negative for Ebola

usatoday.com

He had no contact w/anyone w/Ebola while in Liberia.

If you combine the two i’s and the r in Liberia to form an o and rearrange the letters you get Ebola. Oh god, now I’ve got it!!

84 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 5:29:15pm

This is modern capitalism. These guys make Romney’s old company, Bain, look like amateurs.

Blackstone Group close to deal to sell IndCor Properties, an owner of US industrial real estate, to Singapore’s GIC Pte for more than $8 billion, sources tell @BloombergNews
read more on bloomberg.com

85 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:35:25pm

In case you missed the troll earlier today (I missed it in real time but I read through). Our troll friend walkingdeadhead said this today in our threads that earned him/her -300 karma in one day:

86 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 5:37:06pm

re: #64 jaunte

Yes. They don’t like people making their own choices.

The only free will you have is gods will.

87 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 3, 2014 5:39:01pm

re: #86 Eventual Carrion

Free will? I get a good discount but never free.

88 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 5:41:04pm

Evening Lizardim.

89 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 5:41:32pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

In case you missed the troll earlier today (I missed it in real time but I read through). Our troll friend walkingdeadhead said this today in our threads that earned him/her -300 karma in one day:

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Wow. I miss all the fun. I guess this is why I got my grilling privileges revoked.

90 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 5:41:35pm

re: #76 Vicious Piebola

That would suck when you’re on a trail ride, 3 days out from “civilization” & your horse throws you, breaking a leg, and you don’t have GPS to let the rescue choppers know where to get you. (C.J. Box)

Or you’re snake bit. (True Grit)

To be fair that’s really what PLB’s are for. I always carry a ACR ResQLink when out on the trails. Cell phones and traditional wifi are just too unreliable. You need something that can access an orbiting satellite, with a battery that can’t be drained by alternate uses.

91 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:43:57pm

re: #89 theEbolafishlives

Wow. I miss all the fun. I guess this is why I got my grilling privileges revoked.

It was a rather boring troll. I think CuriousLurker said it, we need a better class of troll.

Dude brought up ACORN fercrissake!

92 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 5:44:28pm

re: #87 Rightwingconspirator

Free will? I get a good discount but never free.

Check your Sunday paper for more coupons.

93 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 5:46:32pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

It was a rather boring troll. I think CuriousLurker said it, we need a better class of troll.

Dude brought up ACORN fercrissake!

Boring or not, it’s certainly a whole lot more entertaining than work.

94 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 5:49:26pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

Dude brought up ACORN fercrissake!

It did seem like he’d been asleep for a few years.

95 Belafon  Nov 3, 2014 5:53:41pm

re: #74 freetoken

Because:

Why the French state has a team of UFO hunters

One of my favorite pieces of history is of Robert Friend, one of the Tuskegee Airmen. From here:

After his service during the war, Lt. Colonel Friend continued a technical career with the Air Force including work on the Space program and at one point was Director of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Program, investigating cased of UFOs brought to the Air Force’s attention.

96 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 5:55:25pm

People like this don’t seem to understand that you don’t get to make such a specific ugly claims about someone who choose to escape hopeless suffering and still pretend you have empathy for them.

97 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 5:57:33pm

Uh, huh?

98 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 5:58:19pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Uh, huh?

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Erick, son of Erick, should take his own goddamn advice. Douchecanoe.

99 Belafon  Nov 3, 2014 6:00:16pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

I’m assuming it should say “Just because you’re a partisan you have no right to be an ass to your neighbor of a different party.”

And therefore he’s being a hypocrite. Not that I would expect any better from him.

100 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 6:02:05pm

Been working on a few ideas for the new feature I mentioned a few days ago, where uploaded images are automatically scaled down and saved as two additional thumbnail-size pics, one 240 pixels wide and one 125 pixels wide.

If you upload a large image, but choose to embed one of its smaller thumbnails in an LGF Page, the thumbnail image will automatically be enabled as a clickable link that pops up the full-sized image.

Also, the larger image will automatically be used as the “meta image” that shows up with the post on Twitter, Facebook, and other social media.

More stuff under way.

101 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:03:22pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Look who’s talking! According to him my atheist ass is wicked and evil.

102 Justanotherhuman  Nov 3, 2014 6:04:20pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards!

Later. : )

103 Belafon  Nov 3, 2014 6:06:04pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

104 Kragar  Nov 3, 2014 6:06:19pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

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Look who’s talking! According to him my atheist ass is wicked and evil.

105 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:06:45pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Been working on a few ideas for the new feature I mentioned a few days ago, where uploaded images are automatically scaled down and saved as two additional thumbnail-size pics, one 240 pixels wide and one 125 pixels wide.

If you upload a large image, but choose to embed one of its smaller thumbnails in an LGF Page, the thumbnail image will automatically be enabled as a clickable link that pops up the full-sized image.

Also, the larger image will automatically be used as the “meta image” that shows up with the post on Twitter, Facebook, and other social media.

More stuff under way.

The thumbnail-size pics, are those the ones you would use for, say, a faceshot of Dim Jim inside a blockquote in the middle of a post?

106 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 6:08:24pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

The thumbnail-size pics, are those the ones you would use for, say, a faceshot of Dim Jim inside a blockquote in the middle of a post?

Exactly.

107 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:09:05pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Exactly.

I’ve always wondered how to do that. Thanks.

108 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 3, 2014 6:09:48pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

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Look who’s talking! According to him my atheist ass is wicked and evil.

Since our friend is trying to riff on the golden rule, I’ll posit this bit of religous thought instead. Eric Son of Eric reminds me of the rich young man Jesus talks to in Matthew 19; he can say all the right things but actually doing them?

109 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 6:10:04pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

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Look who’s talking! According to him my atheist ass is wicked and evil.

This is the guy who started calling Wendy Davis “Abortion Barbie”

110 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 6:10:26pm

NOT THIS STUPID LAME FUCKING URBAN LEGEND AGAIN:

111 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:12:47pm

re: #110 Vicious Piebola

NOT THIS STUPID LAME FUCKING URBAN LEGEND AGAIN:

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No reports of kids getting Halloween candy laced with marijuana

112 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 6:14:19pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

No reports of kids getting Halloween candy laced with marijuana

How stoned to you have to be to give away expensive edibles?

Although I can totally see a South Park episode about this.

113 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 6:14:25pm

Chuck C. is going into full-on hate mode for Lena Dunham tonight, I see.

114 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:17:23pm

re: #112 Vicious Piebola

How stoned to you have to be to give away expensive edibles?

Expensive is right. I bought some fruity chews from an Aspen weed store last winter. What would cost maybe a dollar or two in the gas station cost me $35!

115 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 6:18:04pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. is going into full-on hate mode for Lena Dunham tonight, I see.

As you are no doubt fully aware, our beloved UpChuck has nothing except full-on hate mode.

116 Decatur Deb  Nov 3, 2014 6:18:25pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Uh, huh?

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Word “be” is missing before “an ass”. I speak RWNJ jive.

117 The Mountain That Blogs  Nov 3, 2014 6:20:26pm

Hey wait a minute, did GotNews just swipe their logo from Portal?

118 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 6:20:48pm

re: #117 The Mountain That Blogs

Hey wait a minute, did GotNews just swipe their logo from Portal?

Yes.

119 Decatur Deb  Nov 3, 2014 6:21:31pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Yes.

Privateers can do that.

120 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 6:21:42pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Yes.

The balls on that one.

121 withak  Nov 3, 2014 6:22:33pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

Umm… is that a picture of Swedish fish?

122 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:22:37pm

re: #117 The Mountain That Blogs

Hey wait a minute, did GotNews just swipe their logo from Portal?

Just like UpChuck to steal his logo from a video game.

123 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 6:26:53pm

re: #121 withak

Umm… is that a picture of Swedish fish?

I think you meant to reply to Alouette in #110.

Answering your query, they look like Swedish Fish, but they’re not red enough, too orange.

124 bill d  Nov 3, 2014 6:29:55pm

re: #117 The Mountain That Blogs

Hey wait a minute, did GotNews just swipe their logo from Portal?

It’s ok, Chuck put his watermark on it.

//

125 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 3, 2014 6:31:18pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

How apropos, it looks like a stylized rendition of a sphincter.

126 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 6:32:06pm

re: #125 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How apropos, it looks like a stylized rendition of a sphincter.

Okay, you win an Internet for that one. Absolutely outstanding.

127 EbolaSpotinAL  Nov 3, 2014 6:33:20pm

re: #117 The Mountain That Blogs

The tweet is a lie.

128 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 6:38:06pm

re: #112 Vicious Piebola

How stoned to you have to be to give away expensive edibles?

Although I can totally see a South Park episode about this.

Yeah, they make it sound like you can just go out and buy a 25 oz bag of pot for $8.99 like they do candy. I’m sure someone is just itching to give away a few thousand dollars worth of weed to the kids. 25 oz times $150 per oz is $3750, yeah a stoner is gonna do that.

129 ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2014 6:40:02pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

Just like UpChuck to steal his logo from a video game.

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I think we need to be sort of fair to little Chuck C. “Small” Johnson and his logo at GoatNews…as much as I hate to do it.

That logo element is not new and probably been used in several (hundred?) logos over time. As a graphic artist, a logo design is the whole, not just an element. So, all of GoatNews’ logo must be considered and not just the aperture part.

Here is a logo from a camera store that was pretty large at one time in central Ohio and I think had franchises in other parts of Ohio and maybe regionally. They closed up shop this past March after 60 years in business. Sniff. I can remember the aperture part in their logos back to the 80s at least.

Cord Camera Company Logo

130 nines09  Nov 3, 2014 6:41:21pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

What will she do next?!???

131 The War TARDIS  Nov 3, 2014 6:44:05pm

I can’t add a picture to a page I am making. It says undefined. What is going on?

132 BeachDem  Nov 3, 2014 6:45:39pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Like I wasn’t depressed enough about the election—now you tell me Cord Camera closed? Arrggghhh. (I was so very sad when Big Bear closed—now this.)

133 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 6:46:09pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

I can’t add a picture to a page I am making. It says undefined. What is going on?

Maybe picture is too large.

134 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 6:48:30pm

re: #132 BeachDem

Like I wasn’t depressed enough about the election—now you tell me Cord Camera closed? Arrggghhh. (I was so very sad when Big Bear closed—now this.)

Our Big Bear in town became a BP.

135 BeachDem  Nov 3, 2014 6:50:08pm

re: #134 Eventual Carrion

Our Big Bear in town became a BP.

BP as in gas station? Must have been a small Big Bear (or a large gas station.)

136 ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2014 6:50:39pm

re: #132 BeachDem

Like I wasn’t depressed enough about the election—now you tell me Cord Camera closed? Arrggghhh. (I was so very sad when Big Bear closed—now this.)

Yeah. It sucked bad. I used them a ton over my career in graphic arts. They used to develop a lot of my product photo 120 roll film and I used to buy a lot of equipment from them, like my Mamiya RB67 and Novitron flashes and stands.

137 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 6:54:24pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

Is this in the Pages Dashboard?

138 BeachDem  Nov 3, 2014 6:55:23pm

re: #136 ObserverArt

It was a great chain—quality work, nice people. But then, Big Bear was a great company until Penn Traffic bought it out, ran it into the ground and bankrupted it within a few years. PROGRESS /

139 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 3, 2014 6:57:45pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I had the same issue, if you look in my dashboard you see a couple draft camera review Pages as I re tried.

140 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 6:59:27pm

re: #125 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How apropos, it looks like a stylized rendition of a sphincter.

Twisted to the right.

141 prairiefire  Nov 3, 2014 7:00:10pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

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People like this don’t seem to understand that you don’t get to make such a specific ugly claims about someone who choose to escape hopeless suffering and still pretend you have empathy for them.

She was suffering greatly the last several days.

142 ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2014 7:00:35pm

re: #138 BeachDem

It was a great chain—quality work, nice people. But then, Big Bear was a great company until Penn Traffic bought it out, ran it into the ground and bankrupted it within a few years. PROGRESS /

I don’t remember how long you’ve been away from the Columbus area, but many of the old Big Bear locations are now Giant Eagle stores.

143 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 7:00:49pm

ok, it’s a Pages Dashboard issue — looking at it now.

144 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 7:02:02pm

145 theEbolafishlives  Nov 3, 2014 7:04:18pm

Alright, gentle lizardfolk. I am going to (very gingerly) lay myself down to sleep. May your basking rocks be ever warm, and your asbestos scale suits never lose their integrity. And for the rest, I hold that Chuck C. Johnson is a douchecanoe.

146 Decatur Deb  Nov 3, 2014 7:05:03pm

re: #141 prairiefire

She was suffering greatly the last several days.

We do seem to have a contretemps. It’s liberal in CA to propose legal removal of firearms from someone who demonstrates suicidal intent. Across the border, it’s liberal to insist someone has every right to a self-rescue suicide. Needs work.

(The kid had every right, under any concept of autonomy.)

147 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 7:10:24pm

Calls to election judges a ‘serious attempt to disrupt’ voting

A barrage of automated phone calls offering false instructions to scores of election judges was “a serious attempt to disrupt” Chicago voting operations in the run-up to Tuesday’s vote, elections officials said.
…snip….
Some of the judges received calls informing them that they needed an additional training session before they could work a polling station, board chairman Langdon Neal said. Only one three-hour session is required.

Others were told that they needed to vote a certain way in order to work, though elections officials would not say which way the judges were instructed to vote.

148 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 7:11:19pm
149 Vicious Piebola  Nov 3, 2014 7:12:27pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

AndreaLynn88 because she was born in 1988 or because she’s a Hitler fan?

150 BeachDem  Nov 3, 2014 7:13:14pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

I’ve been back several times (moved away in 2003.) I was actually in town the week they closed the last few stores. The one I mainly shopped at became a Whole Foods.

When I started freelancing, I worked contract for the agency that had Big Bear at the time and that was my account, so it was really “personal” to me.

151 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 7:16:30pm

re: #149 Vicious Piebola

AndreaLynn88 because she was born in 1988 or because she’s a Hitler fan?

Looking at her profile, I’m going to say the former.

152 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 7:19:06pm

re: #149 Vicious Piebola

AndreaLynn88 because she was born in 1988 or because she’s a Hitler fan?

Andrea is good peeps. She was making fun of Laurel. I included her tweet because it contains the sentiment Laurel was responding to. That she apparently can’t just ignore this because it was sent to her phone. The media is shoving this stuff down her throat.

Which brings up the point, what is it with right wingers and having stuff shoved down their throats? It’s an oddly suggestive fixation.

153 The War TARDIS  Nov 3, 2014 7:19:55pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Yes.

154 Eventual Carrion  Nov 3, 2014 7:20:22pm

re: #135 BeachDem

BP as in gas station? Must have been a small Big Bear (or a large gas station.)

Yeah. The Big Bear in town was a gas station. There is also a Big Bear oil company, but I don’t think they had anything to do with the station. Big Bear oil company is kinda new.

155 Charles Johnson  Nov 3, 2014 7:20:24pm

OK, the Pages Dashboard editing window image uploading feature should be fixed now.

156 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 3, 2014 7:21:54pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Andrea is good peeps. She was making fun of Laurel. I included her tweet because it contains the sentiment Laurel was responding to. That she apparently can’t just ignore this because it was sent to her phone. The media is shoving this stuff down her throat.

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Which brings up the point, what is it with right wingers and having stuff shoved down their throats? It’s an oddly suggestive fixation.

They also say that they aren’t going be be bending over any more.

RBS

157 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 3, 2014 7:25:22pm

Usually I think of Google + as where bloggers go to be alone. But I had posted this series of shots on my blog and G+ just up and made this gif. too big to upload so here is the link.

158 Decatur Deb  Nov 3, 2014 7:28:44pm

Early to bed, a long day tomorrow watching my neighbors vote for assholes.

RIP, Tom.

159 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 7:35:19pm

O_o

160 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 7:40:49pm

I’ve definitely felt like this a number of times.

161 ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2014 7:41:07pm

Later Lizards. Let’s hope for the best for the elections tomorrow, but I am not confident the Dems can hold the fort. I am hoping it is women and people of color that come out in large numbers and send the proper message to the GOP and TeaNuts and cancel my fears.

162 TedStriker  Nov 3, 2014 7:41:09pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

Whatever. After the Republicans take over congress, we’ll have new things to worry about with our wild lands. Strip mines, clear cut forests, polluted rivers, exacerbated climate change that’ll decimate entire ecosystems. There’s Republicans who want to retake all our federal land for development. There’s a developer who wants to build million dollar homes on the north rim of the Black Canyon in Colorado.

Wilderness is anathema to your average conservative in the US.

Some of us see wilderness as a place to recharge, revive, and appreciate nature.

They see fucking dollar signs in being able to pillage and despoil it.

163 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 7:49:06pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

I think we need to be sort of fair to little Chuck C. “Small” Johnson and his logo at GoatNews…as much as I hate to do it.

That logo element is not new and probably been used in several (hundred?) logos over time. As a graphic artist, a logo design is the whole, not just an element. So, all of GoatNews’ logo must be considered and not just the aperture part.

The real problem with the aperture part is that how badly it was done.

Off center and fucked up.

I have a hard time thinking that was intentional. It’s sloppy, whoever did it had no idea how to use Illustrator. I’m not even convinced that was originally made in a vector program like Illustrator, it smacks of MS Paint.

164 goddamnedfrank  Nov 3, 2014 8:00:34pm

I broke the thread with Chuck’s lopsided orange gaping butthole of a logo.

165 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 8:02:10pm

My new Kindle arrived today.

I adore the texture on the back. I just want to fondle it all the time.

166 calochortus  Nov 3, 2014 8:03:35pm

re: #165 klystron

The cats will be jealous.

167 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 8:04:09pm

re: #166 calochortus

The cats will be jealous.

The cats are extracting their revenge over the fact that we went down to Paso Robles for the weekend and are ignoring my existence.

168 calochortus  Nov 3, 2014 8:06:38pm

re: #167 klystron

You brute! Have you no care for their delicate little needs?

169 BeenHereAwhile  Nov 3, 2014 8:10:20pm

re: #76 Vicious Piebola

That would suck when you’re on a trail ride, 3 days out from “civilization” & your horse throws you, breaking a leg, and you don’t have GPS to let the rescue choppers know where to get you. (C.J. Box)

Or you’re snake bit. (True Grit)

Like to solo backpack, rock climb, or fish at sea?

findmespot.com

About the size of a pack of cigarettes, less than $100, no monthly fees, uses GPS satellites to geo-locate, and communication satellites to send an alert or distress signal to a designated recipient.

<usual disclaimer>

170 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 3, 2014 8:10:37pm

re: #167 klystron

The cats are extracting their revenge over the fact that we went down to Paso Robles for the weekend and are ignoring my existence.

ROFL… Mine do exactly the same thing. I figure that I get about an hour of pointed ignoring (usually accentuated by staring at me with great disappointment from across the room) for each day I’m gone.

RBS

171 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 8:13:01pm

Well, just lost a friend on Facebook. This gal I’ve known since we were teenagers said that the ACA is a disaster and her patients (she’s a nurse in the L.A. area) are feeling the pinch of increased premiums and lost insurance. We had a very friendly rapport on Facebook, so I responded with some facts, notably comparing Kentucky and Mississippi and how the ACA has affected those states. Simple.

Well, after calmly going through some facts and explaining what the ACA is all about (which got a few likes from HER friends in the discussion) I get this:

Sorry, you’re being deleted. I can’t stand ignorant democrats. See ya Coloradan, pot-smoking ski bum. Have a nice life.

Yikes! Oh well, we’ll be Facebook friends again by Christmas (her sister and I are dear friends, so…)

172 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 8:30:17pm
173 jaunte  Nov 3, 2014 8:56:01pm
174 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 3, 2014 9:08:02pm

Hmm. It’s actually a night off. Will wonders never cease? Good night lizards!!!

175 Mattand  Nov 3, 2014 9:10:28pm

re: #171 teleskiguy

Eh, let her go. You essentially won the debate and she responded by going Chuck C. Johnson.

Makes you wonder if she treats patients poorly if she thinks they’re ebil libruls.

176 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 3, 2014 9:24:09pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Uh, huh?

I think he means, “do not covet your neighbor’s ass.” It’s one of those Biblical injunctions.

177 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2014 9:25:22pm

re: #175 Mattand

Eh, let her go. You essentially won the debate and she responded by going Chuck C. Johnson.

Makes you wonder if she treats patients poorly if she thinks they’re ebil libruls.

Scary thought: There are probably some healthcare workers who actually DO that…

178 klystron  Nov 3, 2014 9:45:23pm

Welp, my ballot is all filled out and ready to get dropped off at City Hall tomorrow.

Vote-by-mail really means I can do the filling out at home with all my reference material and then just drop it in the box the day of.

179 austin_blue  Nov 3, 2014 9:47:36pm

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

Scary thought: There are probably some healthcare workers who actually DO that…

Well, that’s a post that, like a prostitute (male or female), has no visible means of support. We shouldn’t do that here. That’s what *they* do.

Just sayin’.

180 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 9:53:49pm

re: #178 klystron

Welp, my ballot is all filled out and ready to get dropped off at City Hall tomorrow.

Vote-by-mail really means I can do the filling out at home with all my reference material and then just drop it in the box the day of.

Colorado is successfully switching over to Mail-In ballots. In my county it’s estimated that over 70% of all ballots counted will be mailed in, perhaps WAY more.

I live in a county of about 35,000 folks. As of yesterday probably a good half of that has sent in their ballots (by MAIL!).

It’s easy to vote in Colorado, we see that as a fundamental right, or some such shit.

181 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 9:56:11pm
182 teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2014 10:06:08pm
183 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2014 10:23:16pm

I apologize in advance for the assault on your eyeballs but I stumbled across something that is either the worst Christian site I’ve ever seen or a pretty good example of Poe’s Law.

184 freetoken  Nov 3, 2014 10:24:59pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

WE’RE NOT A DEMOCRACY, WE’RE A REPUBLIC!!!!

185 Jenner7  Nov 3, 2014 11:34:34pm

The quiet before the storm….?? :)

186 freetoken  Nov 4, 2014 12:20:33am

You never know what you’re going to find when you go looking for holiday music….

MP3 Audio

187 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 1:01:17am

Just wanna leave my best wishes here to all those, Lizards and uninitiated, who work so hard to enlighten and fight so hard to prevent ignorance and apathy from defeating the march of progress. May all the naysayers be proven wrong, may all the exit polls require a Republican post-election ‘unskewing’ and may the mad tide recede.

Failing that, may this coming Congress remind the citizens of your fair nation how destructive the GOP has become.

Fingers crossed!

188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 1:47:00am

Just think of some of the great things a GOP-controlled Congress can achieve:

repealing ACA (to be vetoed)
impeaching Obama (without conviction)
blocking every nomination for vacant posts

Leadership in action!!!

189 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 2:04:49am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just think of some of the great things a GOP-controlled Congress can achieve:

repealing ACA (to be vetoed)
impeaching Obama (without conviction)
blocking every nomination for vacant posts

Leadership in action!!!

Plus now Boehner can complain about all the Bills the president has vetoed.

190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 2:10:38am

re: #189 Alyosha

Plus now Boehner can complain about all the Bills the president has vetoed.

I am sure that there will be people claiming Obama is a dictator because he vetoes bills passed by a GOP majority…

191 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 2:12:20am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am sure that there will be people claiming Obama is a dictator because he vetoes bills passed by a GOP majority…

Yep, plays right into the narrative…

192 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 2:53:44am

re: #191 Alyosha

Yep, plays right into the narrative…

Which means passing no end of ridiculous bills with patriotic sounding names “religious freedom”, “domestic security”, etc. just to show that Obama opposes these concepts when he invariably vetoes them.

193 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 3:09:11am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Which means passing no end of ridiculous bills with patriotic sounding names “religious freedom”, “domestic security”, etc. just to show that Obama opposes these concepts when he invariably vetoes them.

If only the ACA had been called the ‘America Stands Against Socialised Medicine Act’. Who’d have dared repeal that baby?

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 3:11:04am

re: #193 Alyosha

If only the ACA had been called the ‘America Stands Against Socialised Medicine Act’. Who’d have dared repeal that baby?

Of if it had retained the nickname “Romneycare”…

195 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 3:13:02am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ha!! Not only would it not have faced dozens of repeals, Obama would have faced Santorum in the general lol

196 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 3:18:18am

Scratch that. The repeals would still have happened. Presiding While Black, an’ all that…

197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 3:27:17am

re: #196 Alyosha

Scratch that. The repeals would still have happened. Presiding While Black, an’ all that…

That was the defining moment of the Obama/Romney debates: when Obama asked Romney why his party opposed a health care reform that was identical to the one he passed in Massachusetts.

Romney tried to explain that his state bill passed with a bipartisan majority, but ACA was “forced on us” by a Democratic majority, all but admitting that the GOP opposed it unilaterally because it was associated with Obama.

198 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 3:31:56am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

I apologize in advance for the assault on your eyeballs but I stumbled across something that is either the worst Christian site I’ve ever seen or a pretty good example of Poe’s Law.

Yikes! That’s awful. And worse yet, it links to prison planet and Alex Jones, among other things.

The abbreviation for jesus-is-savior is JIS. You can download JIS banners for your fun and enjoyment.

Sample graphic: I’m not sure if the site says the message is good or bad.
Image: pledge.jpg

199 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 3:42:00am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That was the defining moment of the Obama/Romney debates: when Obama asked Romney why his party opposed a health care reform that was identical to the one he passed in Massachusetts.

Romney tried to explain that his state bill passed with a bipartisan majority, but ACA was “forced on us” by a Democratic majority, all but admitting that the GOP opposed it unilaterally because it was associated with Obama.

In other words, ‘we oppose Obamacare because you proposed it and couldn’t get us to vote for it.’

200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 3:43:16am

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Yikes! That’s awful. And worse yet, it links to prison planet and Alex Jones, among other things.

The abbreviation for jesus-is-savior is JIS. You can download JIS banners for your fun and enjoyment.

Sample graphic: I’m not sure if the site says the message is good or bad.
Image: pledge.jpg

There are a lot of sites like that where the people are so drunk with the Message of the Lord that they do a technicolor vomit with fonts and colors.

201 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 3:50:23am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There are a lot of sites like that where the people are so drunk with the Message of the Lord that they do a technicolor vomit with fonts and colors.

Well, they can’t be drunk with alcohol, because the site says “Beer is evil.”

202 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 3:51:47am

Morning!

Listening to the mixed-message morning news first thing and I am already confused. Their first election day report was about how a low turnout is expected. About 15 minutes later they are reporting that so far the turnout for early voting here in Franklin County (Columbus Oha Metro area) has been up over the last midterm.

I think if early voting is up, then that just might be an indication that the turnout might not be bad at all.

And if Franklin county is up, that means people of color are coming out to vote, which was evident by the images they were showing of the early voting center over the weekend. It looked very busy, and surprise surprise they had registration computers glitching and holding up the proceedings.

Hoping for a surprise.

203 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 3:54:03am

re: #202 ObserverArt

The GOP is going to gain seats and that will be trumpeted as an excuse to run Obama out of town on a rail.

I expect nothing else.

204 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 4:00:20am

Did the President make any noteworthy election-eve comments? I’d like to think he gave his impressions of what America can expect if voter turnout this year is anything like it has been in past midterms.

Or is he about to unleash his hordes of ISIS, Ebola-carrying, union bus-deployed illegal immigrant shadow voters?

205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 4:01:53am

re: #204 Alyosha

Did the President make any noteworthy election-eve comments? I’d like to think he gave his impressions of what America can expect if voter turnout this year is anything like it has been in past midterms.

Or is he about to unleash his hordes of ISIS, Ebola-carrying, union bus-deployed illegal immigrant shadow voters?

Get out and enjoy this election, because Obama is going to declare a State of Emergency and cancel the 2016 elections, dissolve Congress and suspend the Bill of Rights.

/

206 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:02:38am

7:00 AM. The polls are open in Pennsylvania.

207 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:04:22am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Get out and enjoy this election, because Obama is going to declare a State of Emergency and cancel the 2016 elections, dissolve Congress and suspend the Bill of Rights.

There’ll still be cookies won’t there?

208 Flounder  Nov 4, 2014 4:06:52am

Just voted, fairly busy in my upstate NY town. Just chastised my co-worker for not registering to vote. Get out and vote dammit!

209 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 4:09:36am

re: #207 Eventual Carrion

There’ll still be cookies won’t there?

Only FEMA biscuits.

210 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:10:48am

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Only FEMA biscuits.

I’ll bring gravy

211 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 4:11:43am

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Only FEMA biscuits.

Librul kale crackers.

212 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 4:13:55am

re: #210 Eventual Carrion

I’ll bring gravy

You’re from the South, I reckon.

213 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 4:16:15am

re: #210 Eventual Carrion

I’ll bring gravy

Gravy is supplied. But it’s people.

214 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:19:02am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-bola

You’re from the South, I reckon.

Spent a lot of time there, graduated high school in Mississippi (I’m from PA originally, my father was from MS). Had relatives there that could cook up a storm. I know the food content and prep can be highly fattening, but man is some it out of this world good.

215 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:21:26am

re: #213 Alyosha

Gravy is supplied. But it’s people.

Mmmm. Soylent chicken fried steak.

216 Flounder  Nov 4, 2014 4:21:54am

re: #214 Eventual Carrion

All that “fatty” home cooking just lubricates your arteries, keeps the blood flowing.
:)

217 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 4:23:09am

Well, off to work. Won’t be voting until after work, pick up the wife and head to the polls.

GET OUT AND VOTE PEOPLE!

218 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 4:26:48am

re: #214 Eventual Carrion

Spent a lot of time there, graduated high school in Mississippi (I’m from PA originally, my father was from MS). Had relatives there that could cook up a storm. I know the food content and prep can be highly fattening, but man is some it out of this world good.

I lived in KY for almost 30 years. I know what you mean.

219 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 4:31:54am

I’ve stayed off the Twitters for most of the past couple of days to prepare for a derptastic night. Well on the the good part of the day:
About to vote: Get to vote for Alison L. Grimes, another great woman for KY-06 in Elisabeth Jensen.

And wingnuts would hate living in Lexington this year:

Choice for Mayor:
Incumbent and Openly Gay Mayor Jim Gray

African American former chief of Police Anthany Berry

I haven’t decided whom to vote for.

220 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 4:36:45am

re: #219 nearly-headless smith25

I’ve stayed off the Twitters for most of the past couple of days to prepare for a derptastic night. Well on the the good part of the day:
About to vote: Get to vote for Alison L. Grimes, another great woman for KY-06 in Elisabeth Jensen.

And wingnuts would hate living in Lexington this year:

Choice for Mayor:
Incumbent and Openly Gay Mayor Jim Gray

African American former chief of Police Anthany Berry

I haven’t decided whom to vote for.

I have no favorites for Lex-nun’s mayor, but I really really want Alison to win the Senate race. I imagine Yarmuth will win re-election.

221 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 4:38:09am

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi-bola

I have no favorites for Lex-nun’s mayor, but I really really want Alison to win the Senate race. I imagine Yarmuth will win re-election.

Hoping on Hope that we can get good turnout here and in Louisville. The more that vote, the better the chances.

222 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 4:40:29am

re: #221 nearly-headless smith25

Hoping on Hope that we can get good turnout here and in Louisville. The more that vote, the better the chances.

Yeah. She needs Louisville, Lexington and the Covington area to vote Democratic to counter the rural Republican/Dixiecrat base.

223 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 4:51:08am
224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 4:55:28am

re: #223 nearly-headless smith25

wow…the voter sign-in roll book hasn’t changed at all.

226 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 4:59:47am

I asked myself this very question and the answer, based on actual statistical modeling (because I am a person who Does The Maths for a living) is NO

227 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 5:14:19am

re: #225 Vicious Piebola

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That’s the problem with mail-in ballots, I didn’t get the little sticker.

I’m bummed…but I voted!

228 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 5:15:46am

re: #226 Vicious Piebola

I asked myself this very question and the answer, based on actual statistical modeling (because I am a person who Does The Maths for a living) is NO

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Yes, but it is the subjective, perceived reality that motivates people to the polls…

229 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 5:18:17am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Of if it had retained the nickname “Romneycare”…

Though it’s been shown that “Romney Cares” only applies to corporate citizens and certain bank accounts.
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230 EmmaAnne  Nov 4, 2014 5:27:31am

re: #171 teleskiguy

She has bad taste. Some of my favorite people have been Coloradan, pot-smoking ski bum Democrats.

231 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 5:30:27am

I’m getting six kinds of shit from gun-fuckers for debunking their favorite Hitler fake quote.

232 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 5:33:35am

re: #231 Vicious Piebola

I’m getting six kinds of shit from gun-fuckers for debunking their favorite Hitler fake quote.

You are spoiling the narrative. How dare you obfuscate matters with mere facts.

233 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 5:34:35am

Good morning all, happy voting Day.

I live in Ft. Worth, TX so I don’t vote for anyone who will win but I voted a week ago Saturday to be heard.

Interesting question: Snowie is still eligible to vote and since he luv ‘Merica more than anyone I am sure that he would crawl throw broken glass to vote?

234 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 5:35:38am

re: #233 bill d

Good morning all, happy voting Day.

I live in Ft. Worth, TX so I don’t vote for anyone who will win but I voted a week ago Saturday to be heard.

Interesting question: Snowie is still eligible to vote and since he luv ‘Merica more than anyone I am sure that he would crawl throw broken glass to vote?

Come to think of it, I wonder if GG did.

235 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 5:35:42am

re: #233 bill d

Good morning all, happy voting Day.

I live in Ft. Worth, TX so I don’t vote for anyone who will win but I voted a week ago Saturday to be heard.

Interesting question: Snowie is still eligible to vote and since he luv ‘Merica more than anyone I am sure that he would crawl throw broken glass to vote?

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Every pirate votes for hisself.—Captain Barbossa

236 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 5:36:06am

re: #231 Vicious Piebola

I’m getting six kinds of shit from gun-fuckers for debunking their favorite Hitler fake quote.

They don’t care about they facts, they care about winning the twitter argument.

237 Franklin  Nov 4, 2014 5:36:52am

Vote cast in MA (Boston) so no real national implications aside from Governor. I was in and out by 7:10 and was the 18th voter in my ward (according to the ticker on the machine).

238 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 5:37:57am

re: #236 bill d

They don’t care about they facts, they care about winning the twitter argument.

I’m getting Tweets from freaking, screaming, shit-smearing idjits calling me a “Hitler lover” and “Anti-Semite.”

239 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 5:38:03am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Come to think of it, I wonder if GG did.

He never talks about it, I’d love to see his ballot where he lines through all the candidates and writes in Ron Paul in every race.

240 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 5:38:24am

Block, mute, block, mute, rinse, repeat

241 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 5:38:42am

re: #238 Vicious Piebola

I’m getting Tweets from freaking, screaming, shit-smearing idjits calling me a “Hitler lover” and “Anti-Semite.”

Ha! They sure are onto you.

//

242 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 5:38:50am

re: #239 bill d

He never talks about it, I’d love to see his ballot where he lines through all the candidates and writes in Ron Paul Glenn Greenwald in every race.

Edited for likely accuracy

243 darthstar  Nov 4, 2014 5:39:51am

re: #236 bill d

They don’t care about they facts, they care about winning the twitter argument.

I was cleaning my Twitter and it went off.

244 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 4, 2014 5:40:33am

Voted absentee a couple of weeks ago. Will light a candle and pray that the Governor get a pink slip like he’s caused for a hundred thousand Wisconsin workers.

245 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 5:41:07am

re: #243 darthstar

I was cleaning my Twitter and it went off.

Always assume your Twitter is loaded, and never point your Twitter at something unless you really intend to tweet at it.

246 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 5:41:29am

Great Greenwald is way too important to lower hisself to vote. Elections are for the sheeple.

And how could he ever vote for a government that spies on it’s people and terrorizes the rest of the world.

All Hail Greenwald!!!

/

247 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 5:41:42am

re: #241 bill d

Ha! They sure are onto you.

//

I can see some of these are newly-created “egg” accounts probably created because I already blocked/muted them. Also I see stalkers joining in the mentions.

248 Alyosha  Nov 4, 2014 5:43:49am

re: #240 Vicious Piebola

Block, mute, block, mute, rinse, repeat

[Homer]
Hate, derp, block,
Hate, derp, block,
Derp, derp, flip,
Block, block, block.
[/Homer]

… is how I imagine Twitter.

249 Franklin  Nov 4, 2014 5:44:00am

re: #245 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Always assume your Twitter is loaded, and never point your Twitter at something unless you really intend to tweet at it.

And for goodness sake, lock it up when you aren’t using it!

250 Mattand  Nov 4, 2014 5:45:56am

re: #226 Vicious Piebola

I asked myself this very question and the answer, based on actual statistical modeling (because I am a person who Does The Maths for a living) is NO

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Man, that was a stupid graphic even by Tea Bagger/Republican standards.

The fact that people who answer “Yes” to all of the those questions are going to give politicians who answer “Yes” to all of those questions more power is utterly depressing.

251 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 5:50:45am

re: #250 Mattand

Man, that was a stupid graphic even by Tea Bagger/Republican standards.

The fact that people who answer “Yes” to all of the those questions are going to give politicians who answer “Yes” to all of those questions more power is utterly depressing.

It’s like the current Tea Party rallying cry that only smart women vote for GOTP candidates, and women Democrats are all stupid because reasons.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 5:53:04am

A friend is coming over in a couple of hours to drive me to the polling place, where I’ll be happy to vote for Alison.
There’s an overlooked race for Kentucky Supreme Court that is just as important, IMHO, because the non-incumbent is a raving libertarian teabagger.

253 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 5:53:26am

re: #247 Vicious Piebola

I can see some of these are newly-created “egg” accounts probably created because I already blocked/muted them. Also I see stalkers joining in the mentions.

Ha. I stuck with the egg thing since I decided to re-up with twitter again. Hell I kept the little green football for a long time here. But then again, I don’t even have pictures around my workstation here at work.

254 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 5:54:05am
255 Lidane  Nov 4, 2014 5:54:39am
256 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Nov 4, 2014 5:55:19am

Welp, voted. Number 76 at my friendly, local poll. Sick as ‘ell w/ some sorta flu-bug-stew & home for the day.

257 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 5:56:24am

re: #256 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)

Welp, voted. Number 76 at my friendly, local poll. Sick as ‘ell w/ some sorta flu-bug-stew & home for the day.

EBOLAHGAZII!!!!!!!!

258 Lidane  Nov 4, 2014 5:57:25am
259 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Nov 4, 2014 5:59:11am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Heh. More along the lines of attending my niece’s b-day party and being bum-rushed by a bunch of little ones.

260 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 5:59:18am

re: #258 Lidane

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Rampaging Canadians - when will Obama put a stop to it?
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261 wheat-dogghazi-bola  Nov 4, 2014 6:01:43am

Well, happy voting, all. While America votes, China sleeps. I hope to awake in the morning to some happy news.

262 Franklin  Nov 4, 2014 6:02:23am

re: #258 Lidane

Yeah, we get some bleed over advertising in the Boston market from the NH races. “Jeanne Shaheen has voted with Obama 99% of the time!”. OK, where do I vote?

263 Ebolangelus  Nov 4, 2014 6:02:59am

re: #255 Lidane

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People directly responsible for this kind of stuff should be prosecuted for treason as far as I’m concerned. And yes, I’m well aware that’s extreme, but so is stripping away one of the most basic of rights people in the country have as citizens and taking away their right to influence how others govern their lives.

264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 6:11:45am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-bola

Well, happy voting, all. While America votes, China sleeps. I hope to awake in the morning to some happy news.

Central Europe will be in bed by the time the final polling results are in. I don’t expect to wake up to anything pleasant, but still hope for the best.

265 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:12:32am

Voted bright and early. Pretty sure it was yet another polling place as well. It didn’t look familiar. That’s why there can’t be any real voting fraud. They keep moving the voting precincts.

Assuming the Senate will fall. Hoping Dems at least keep MD governorship, and barring that, that at least the local state legislative candidates win their races. I’ll find any reason to stay positive.

266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 6:12:42am

re: #263 Ebolangelus

People directly responsible for this kind of stuff should be prosecuted for treason as far as I’m concerned. And yes, I’m well aware that’s extreme, but so is stripping away one of the most basic of rights people in the country have as citizens and taking away their right to influence how others govern their lives.

If they are so damn insistent on voter ID, then we should simply provide every single citizen with a voter ID card free of charge.

267 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:13:41am

Well at least today voters can take out their anger over high gas prices and a collapsed stock market on Soshulist Obama.

//

268 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:17:58am

[media]The GOP swept the Senate by one vote which means they have a mandate to repeal Obamacare, why won’t Obama compromise? [/media]

//

269 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 6:22:49am

re: #97 teleskiguy

Uh, huh?

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I’d like my neighbor’s ass (donkey, people), but I think I break the 10th commandment by stating that.

270 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:23:57am

re:
#269

Go home Erick son of Erick. You’re drunk.

271 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 6:24:45am

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. is going into full-on hate mode for Lena Dunham tonight, I see.

The whole Lena Dunham obsession that younger wingnuts have is bizarre. Ever get the feeling that they all became Republicans because they were repeatedly rejected by the artsy liberal intellectual girl in college?

272 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 6:25:15am

Slow internet… bane of my existence.

273 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:28:35am

re:
#271

Lena Dunham talks openly about teh sex stuff. She’s “uppity”. That doesn’t go over well with some on that side of the fence.

274 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 6:29:13am

Whoa. The Daily Banter is now paid subscriber based. I got this pop-up when I clicked on a GG story:

Subscribe to The Daily Banter!

Hey there, we really appreciate you reading us!

You’ve reached your allotted 3 articles this week, so please consider subscribing to get unlimited access to all our unfiltered commentary, reporting and video content.

275 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 6:29:17am

re: #271 Ian G.

The whole Lena Dunham obsession that younger wingnuts have is bizarre. Ever get the feeling that they all became Republicans because they were repeatedly rejected by the artsy liberal intellectual girl in college?

She did a racy pro-Obama campaign ad in 2012 (Your First Time) so they feel compelled to smear her and get her back any way they can

276 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 6:34:46am

re: #226 Vicious Piebola

I asked myself this very question and the answer, based on actual statistical modeling (because I am a person who Does The Maths for a living) is NO

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As you say, WTFITS? Infected? Well, I have a scratchy throat and a bit of a stuffed nose, so I guess I am infected on election day 2014 and not 2008. Point there. Beheaded? Well, the homicide rate in this country has been declining steadily for a quarter century now. It’s probably slightly lower in 2014 than in 2008, so no, I’m probably not more likely to be beheaded. Audited? I dunno. I didn’t lie on my taxes in 2008 and I didn’t this year either.

277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:34:51am

re:
#275

She did a racy pro-Obama campaign ad in 2012 (
Your First Time
) so they feel compelled to smear her and get her back any way they can

That really got their goat.

278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 6:35:31am

re: #277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#275

That really got their goat.

sex and liberal politics with just a hint of miscegnation

279 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:37:54am

re:
#278

sex and liberal politics with just a hint of miscegnation

The unholy trinity for RWNJ.

280 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 6:39:26am

Russian blogger Kireev found an elegant metamathematical proof that the DNR election “results” were simply made up:

kireev.livejournal.com

281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:39:53am

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

And what did you guys get me for my four year anniversary?

282 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 6:42:12am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

And what did you guys get me for my four year anniversary?

grab a toaster oven from the prize closet.

283 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 4, 2014 6:42:41am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

And what did you guys get me for my four year anniversary?

Isn’t that the wood anniversary?

284 Amory Blaine  Nov 4, 2014 6:43:18am

Will Wolfie make assurances from the holodeck today?

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 6:45:01am
286 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 6:46:19am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Which reminds me, I registered on the 14th.

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 6:46:24am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

And what did you guys get me for my four year anniversary?

Re-elected to four more years?
;)

288 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 6:46:42am

re: #284 Amory Blaine

Will Wolfie make assurances from the holodeck today?

I wonder if they’ll have Eric Cantor on as a panelist?

289 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 6:47:41am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. Higher turnout is bad news for Mitch.

290 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 6:48:06am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

And what did you guys get me for my four year anniversary?

Here’s our announcer, Don Pardo, to tell you what you’ve won…

291 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 6:49:24am

re:
#282

grab a toaster oven from the prize closet.

Thanks I’ve been trying to hold myself back from the prize closet. Lots of good stuff in there I hear.

292 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 6:50:42am

re: #281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just noticed I recently had my four year LGF anniversary. I registered on Nov 2, 2010.

Yeah, I registered on election night 2012. I remember years ago being as horrified by this blog as I am by Breitbart today. Never thought I would see myself posting here. But then Charles had his Road to Damascus moment….

293 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 6:51:10am

re: #271 Ian G.

The whole Lena Dunham obsession that younger wingnuts have is bizarre. Ever get the feeling that they all became Republicans because they were repeatedly rejected by the artsy liberal intellectual girl in college?

It’s creepy is what it is. But truthfully, I think there’s a lot of rage in the whole conservative ideology. People don’t become angry conservative types because they’re happy and well adjusted people.

294 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2014 6:53:49am

My prediction for today. Common sense and progress will have a slight setback today after all the votes are counted. Midterms never bode well for incumbents. But the way I see it, the winners (probably the GOP this time around) will have 2 years to prove themselves before the 2016 election. Good thing this is President Obama’s last term. His veto pen will be needed. A lot.

295 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 6:54:07am

re: #263 Ebolangelus

People directly responsible for this kind of stuff should be prosecuted for treason as far as I’m concerned. And yes, I’m well aware that’s extreme, but so is stripping away one of the most basic of rights people in the country have as citizens and taking away their right to influence how others govern their lives.

Yeah. We fought a whole big war for that right we didn’t have under British rule. I think it was even a center piece when we DECLARED we wouldn’t put up with it anymore. Why do they disgrace our ancestor patriots (true patriots) by doing something like that. Patriots just aren’t what they used to be.

296 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 6:58:51am

I am not optimistic politically speaking today because midterms are bad news and the same Democratic turnout that has given President Obama two terms also hasn’t helped him much at the midterms. I just hope that if there’s a Republican majority in the Senate that the American people see that the Senate GOP is filled with the same pathetic mindset that the House GOP has where hating on Obama is more important than actually getting shit done for the betterment of the country but at the same time, I am tired of the American voter’s short term memory. How quickly they forget that the same party that they’re going to give a majority in the Senate was the same one shutting down the government last year because of a tantrum over a law they didn’t like being implemented but then again the sad part is a lot of Americans agreed with that.

297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:00:09am

re:
#294

Good thing this is President Obama’s last term. His veto pen will be needed. A lot.

Like the block button on Twitter. Gonna wear it out.

298 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 7:01:17am

re: #294 GlutenFreeJesus

My prediction for today. Common sense and progress will have a slight setback today after all the votes are counted. Midterms never bode well for incumbents. But the way I see it, the winners (probably the GOP this time around) will have 2 years to prove themselves before the 2016 election. Good thing this is President Obama’s last term. His veto pen will be needed. A lot.

Yes. I’m less concerned now than I was in 2010, since we won’t have Obama running again in 2 years. And as sad as it makes me to say it, the next Dem candidate for President will be a caucasian, and that will give her an edge in 2016 that Obama never had.

299 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:01:41am

I came back from a team meeting and my timeline is full of shit from gunfuckers. They really, really LUVS their Fake Hitler Quote and they has a sad that I debunked it.

300 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:06:05am

re:
#296

The GOP probably could have had the Senate in 2010 if they hadn’t nominated more extreme candidates. So I think the country kind of dodged the bullet back then.

And in another sense Democrats have been rather fortunate in that for the past couple of decades they’ve had Senate seats from states like North and South Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Arkansas and North Carolina. The likelihood of holding onto those seats wasn’t high over the long term.

At the same time, a lot political and cultural trends—support for gay marriage being one—are flowing against conservatives. So there’s a weird juxtaposition there between the way House and Senate seats are proportioned and what some of the national trends are.

301 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2014 7:06:11am

re: #298 Ian G.

Yes. I’m less concerned now than I was in 2010, since we won’t have Obama running again in 2 years. And as sad as it makes me to say it, the next Dem candidate for President will be a caucasian, and that will give her an edge in 2016 that Obama never had.

The misogyny ingrained in the GOP will come out full blast. Even more so than the racism with Obama. We ain’t seen nothing yet.

302 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:08:57am

re: #301 GlutenFreeJesus

The misogyny ingrained in the GOP will come out full blast. Even more so than the racism with Obama. We ain’t seen nothing yet.

Yeah that will be the next thing exposed in our society. If Obama’s election exposed that there’s a lot of people that haven’t gotten over the Civil Rights Movement’s success. A woman Democratic president will expose the sexism that is still prevalent in our society. Now at the same time though, Ian makes a great point, funny how wingnut commentators always harp about how minorities love Obama because he’s one of them but totally ignore that many had it out for him from the start because he is black. And that’s something I know is true because sad to say, it wasn’t only Republicans and wingnuts.

303 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:09:47am

Anyhow I’m about to go to vote.

304 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 7:11:07am

It’s truly amazing that all of the pundits and media have pretty much decided that McConnell is going to cruise to victory, and have written off Kentucky as a Senate race to watch.

305 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:11:18am

Dana has a sad she can’t bring ALL TEH GUNZ to her “book” signing event. Was she planning on signing her booklike thing by shooting a bullet through the pages?

306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:11:59am

re:
#303

Anyhow I’m about to go to vote.

Just talked to my co-worker who lives in VA and apparently this was the first election where they had to have the photo ID to vote.

307 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2014 7:13:07am

re: #300 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Voters only remember TV ads the week before an election. All the bad shit the GOP has tried to pull since 2008 has been long forgotten by the majority.

Undecided Voters

308 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:13:30am

re:
#305

Dana Loesch cancels book signing at
#gun
-free campus: ‘Not cool with being a sitting duck’

A gunfree zone meens only the criminals and Obamathugs have all teh gunz!!!!1111

309 Franklin  Nov 4, 2014 7:14:33am

re: #305 Vicious Piebola

Why did her agent setup the book signing event at a gun-free campus?

Related: Is there an agreed upon tag to use for rhetorical statements like we use for sarcasm :)

310 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:14:36am

re:
#307

All the bad shit the GOP has tried to pull since 2008 has been long forgotten by the majority.

Yep, unfortunately true.

311 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 7:17:41am

re: #301 GlutenFreeJesus

The misogyny ingrained in the GOP will come out full blast. Even more so than the racism with Obama. We ain’t seen nothing yet.

For that reason, I do not look forward to Hillary as a Presidential candidate. I will probably have to give up on my favorite pastime, namely politics, because it will get terribly ugly.

312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:19:38am

re:
#305

‘Not cool with being a sitting duck’

Because a college campus is basically the wild, wild west with daily shoot ‘em ups going on all the time.

/

313 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:19:52am

Uccch. Gun-fuckers are trying to “prove me wrong” by Tweeting National Review articles.

Block, mute, block, mute.

314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 7:19:56am

re: #309 Franklin

Why did her agent setup the book signing event at a gun-free campus?

Related: Is there an agreed upon tag to use for rhetorical statements like we use for sarcasm :)

sarc tag /

and [ wingnut ] script [ wingnut / ] . remove spaces and you get
sarcasm

315 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 7:21:49am
316 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 7:22:43am

re: #312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#305

Because a college campus is basically the wild, wild west with daily shoot ‘em ups going on all the time.

/

No, because half of her target audience would refuse to show up on principle if they could not bring their wee-wee substitutes to wave at Dana. This is about moving product,

317 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 7:24:37am

re: #309 Franklin

Why did her agent setup the book signing event at a gun-free campus?

Gotta gin up some outrage.

318 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 7:26:27am

It must suck to live in such a paranoid and fearful existence that you feel unsafe everywhere unless you have a firearm.

319 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:27:56am

HURR HURR SALON & FORDHAM ARE TEH COMMUNISTS!!!!! REED THIS ARTICLE BY GUN FUCKING GUN NUT AT NATIONAL REVIEW!!!!!!!

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 7:28:55am
321 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 7:29:14am

The franchise has been exercised. 80th voter in my ward.

322 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:31:17am

I got to the polls this morning just as the doors opened. There were about 20 people standing in line.

Most of them went to the other precinct.

I was the 8th voter to cast a ballot in my precinct.

323 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:31:46am

UAW gets the day off today. Contractors have to work.

324 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:32:16am

Done.

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 7:32:25am

Every time elections come around I end up talking to the Brazilian co-workers about the differences between their system and ours.

In theirs, you get fined if you don’t vote.

326 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:33:25am

People who vote for 3rd parties are just the same as not voting.

327 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:33:32am

re: #325 Feline Fearless Leader

Every time elections come around I end up talking to the Brazilian co-workers about the differences between their system and ours.

In theirs, you get fined if you don’t vote.

Didn’t know Brazil had compulsory voting. I don’t like compulsory voting laws personally but at the same time, I do wish there was a way to encourage more voting.

328 Jenner7  Nov 4, 2014 7:33:52am

Good morning! Went early, scraped the ice off my car, and voted. Yay! Cast my vote for Doug Owens over Mia Love. This was too important of a vote to just stay home, even if it’s in a red state.

329 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:34:45am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

It must suck to live in such a paranoid and fearful existence that you feel unsafe everywhere unless you have a firearm.

Right. I’d hate to live such a life but then again I am not a gunfucker who thinks the Holocaust happened because of gun control.

330 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:36:39am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Right. I’d hate to live such a life but then again I am not a gunfucker who thinks the Holocaust happened because of gun control.

I can’t even comprehend the twisted logic that causes them to claim that if you debunk their favorite Hitler Fake Quote that makes you a “Hitler lover” WTF.

I think they got this talking point from the stalkers BTW since I am seeing stalkers show up in the mentions.

331 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:37:46am

So what happened to the EBOLAs!!! crisis?

/

332 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:38:34am

re: #330 Vicious Piebola

I can’t even comprehend the twisted logic that causes them to claim that if you debunk their favorite Hitler Fake Quote that makes you a “Hitler lover” WTF.

I think they got this talking point from the stalkers BTW since I am seeing stalkers show up in the mentions.

Didn’t know they were resorting to calling you and others Hitler lovers for calling them out on their lies. Anywho, if they want to live in a fantasy world where gun control and not scapegoating and bigotry is the prime culprit of mass genocide,that’s on them.

333 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 7:39:11am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

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And vote for Pedro!

334 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:39:18am

I wonder if James O’Keefe is standing in a voting line somewhere trying to commit voter fraud in order to prove voter fraud. Maybe he won’t remember to vote himself or better, that his precinct has been relocated and he has to run around trying to vote or fill out a provisional ballot.

335 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 7:39:43am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

It must suck to live in such a paranoid and fearful existence that you feel unsafe everywhere unless you have a firearm.

Scared of minorities. Scared of Muslims. Scared of Ebola. Scared of damn well near everything. I sometimes have to remind myself how many wingnuts would be utterly terrified of the existence I live every day: being a white dude living in a majority-minority neighborhood.

336 Ace-o-aces  Nov 4, 2014 7:40:24am

re: #305 Vicious Piebola

337 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:40:30am

re: #334 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder if James O’Keefe is standing in a voting line somewhere trying to commit voter fraud in order to prove voter fraud. Maybe he won’t remember to vote himself or better, that his precinct has been relocated and he has to run around trying to vote or fill out a provisional ballot.

I think he probably early voted so he would have time today to do his childish stunts. I am just waiting for him to really step in shit and do something that will actually get him in legitimate trouble.

338 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:40:32am

re:
#328

Yay! Cast my vote for Doug Owens over Mia Love.

Did she run last year? Is this the seat being vacated by a blue-dog Dem?

339 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 7:40:36am

Here’s Dana Loesch on why she cancelled the book signing:

She said she regularly receives threats from anti-Second Amendment advocates and is “just not cool with being sitting duck somewhere or asking any of you to be also.”

That phrase, “or asking any of you to be also,” suggests that Palin devotees may have a newer and younger ass to venerate.

340 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:41:39am

re: #339 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Here’s Dana Loesch on why she cancelled the book signing:

That phrase, “or asking any of you to be also,” suggests that Palin devotees may have a newer and younger ass to venerate.

She’s encouraging them to be paranoid. Really Dana, you’re not worth a threat. Don’t flatter yourself.

341 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 7:42:15am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If they are so damn insistent on voter ID, then we should simply provide every single citizen with a voter ID card free of charge.

Such simple and pure thinking will not be allowed by the Republicans. They’d have to put some kind of a block in all that one way or another.

342 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 7:43:04am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know Brazil had compulsory voting. I don’t like compulsory voting laws personally but at the same time, I do wish there was a way to encourage more voting.

Wikipedia: Compulsary Voting

Has been on the books or enforced historically in a wider swath of places than I thought. Enforced in Australia and a number of countries in South America still.

343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:43:21am

re:
#339

She said she regularly receives threats from anti-Second Amendment advocates

Those anti-Second Amendment thugs with their word weapons. Very scary. /

344 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 7:43:33am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Mark of the Beast! Mark of the Beast! Run awaaaaaaaaay!

345 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:43:47am

re: #343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#339

Those anti-Second Amendment thugs with their word weapons. Very scary. /

Isn’t that like being afraid of a peacenik?

346 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:44:12am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know they were resorting to calling you and others Hitler lovers for calling them out on their lies. Anywho, if they want to live in a fantasy world where gun control and not scapegoating and bigotry is the prime culprit of mass genocide,that’s on them.

They would totally all volunteer to round up “illegals” with their guns, if some Tea Party leader told them to go for it.

347 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:44:21am

I think Dana’s afraid of anyone who doesn’t share her absolutist view on the second amendment or her paranoia about the government and guns.

348 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:44:42am

re: #346 Vicious Piebola

They would totally all volunteer to round up “illegals” with their guns, if some Tea Party leader told them to go for it.

Some of them already did- the Minutemen.

349 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 7:44:55am

re: #339 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Here’s Dana Loesch on why she cancelled the book signing:

That phrase, “or asking any of you to be also,” suggests that Palin devotees may have a newer and younger ass to venerate.

Aren’t these “anti-second amendment” people the ones that are going to be slaughtered when the shit hits the fan according to her ilk? Why is she afraid of them? They aren’t carrying guns. All they could attack her with is logic, facts and reason … ooohhh I see what she is really afraid of.

350 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:45:20am

re: #342 Feline Fearless Leader

Wikipedia: Compulsary Voting

Has been on the books or enforced historically in a wider swath of places than I thought. Enforced in Australia and a number of countries in South America still.

Interesting. But yeah even with historical precedent, I still don’t like that. I see democracy as including the freedom not to vote too if so be it.

351 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:45:31am

re: #334 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder if James O’Keefe is standing in a voting line somewhere trying to commit voter fraud in order to prove voter fraud. Maybe he won’t remember to vote himself or better, that his precinct has been relocated and he has to run around trying to vote or fill out a provisional ballot.

He sent around a bus filled with doppelgangers to various polling stations to see how many absentee ballots he could score.

352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:45:39am

re:
#345

Isn’t that like being afraid of a peacenik?

Pacifists and Quakers. Very violent people. /

353 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 7:45:59am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Isn’t that like being afraid of a peacenik?

I was there in the Sixties. Yes, some people were afraid of peaceniks. At the time I figured it was because they thought that it might be contagious.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 7:47:20am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Interesting. But yeah even with historical precedent, I still don’t like that. I see democracy as including the freedom not to vote too if so be it.

That’s covered in the article. Though note that places like Brazil provide for a sort of non-voting vote through the use of a blank or spoiled ballot.

355 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 7:47:31am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Anyhow I’m about to go to vote.

Go! Go! GO!

356 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 7:47:45am

re: #352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#345

Pacifists and Quakers. Very violent people. /

We actually had a crazy Amish guy here a few years back behead his wife. He was found to be very mentally disabled, but still.

357 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:49:55am

re: #353 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I was there in the Sixties. Yes, some people were afraid of peaceniks. At the time I figured it was because they thought that it might be contagious.

Yeah I know. My father was a peacenik. Long hair and beards man!!!!!!!!!! I only got half that covered now though. Really though, Dana and her people had to know this campus prohibited guns before they booked. So, I think this is just her way of saying zomg I’m a victim of repressive gun laws and using it to give credence to her book’s stupid thesis which is that the second amendment is under attack. Gunfuckers like her like to describe themselves as “pro second amendment” and anyone who doesn’t see guns like they do as “anti second amendment.” Fact is I’ve never seen anyone actually call for an outright repeal of the second amendment. I’ve seen people who rightfully point out that arms in turn of 18th century America are different from arms today in 21st century America and people who have a problem with people who resort to gunhoarding anytime someone tehy don’t like is elected but nope never anyone who is actually against the idea of a private citizen owning arms. And then there’s this. Their hero Ronnie had more of a record being a “gungrabber” than Obama ever has.

358 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:50:30am

re: #355 ObserverArt

Go! Go! GO!

Alright back. It was quick. Only two people on the ballot and the referendums were pretty simple.

359 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 7:50:30am

re:
#339

She said she regularly receives threats from anti-Second Amendment advocates and is “just not cool with being sitting duck somewhere or asking any of you to be also.”

Law abiding gun owners in America are like Holocaust victims!

360 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 7:51:03am

361 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 4, 2014 7:51:25am

re: #352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#345

Pacifists and Quakers. Very violent people. /

I once saw a Unitarian speak in a stern tone of voice. It was scary.

RBS

362 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:51:27am

If you don’t like guns, you’re a Nazi or something like that because you know the Nazis hated guns and weren’t one of the most militaristic regimes ever.

363 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 7:51:52am

re: #359 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#339

Law abiding gun owners in America are like Holocaust victims!

TEH GUN OWNERS ARE TEH REAL HOLOCAUST VICTIMZ!!!! MOAR VICTIM WORTHY THEN THOSE JUICE WHO DON’T EVEN LOVE JESUS!!!!!!!

364 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 7:53:46am

re: #305 Vicious Piebola

Dana has a sad she can’t bring ALL TEH GUNZ to her “book” signing event. Was she planning on signing her booklike thing by shooting a bullet through the pages?

[Dana Loesch cancels book signing at #gun-free campus: ‘Not cool with being a sitting duck’ washingtontimes.com … #2A ]

What? She will be in Texas…the gun loving state and she is worried about her protection in Rick Perry land.

Hmmm.

I think the protection she is really worried about is to her credibility and reputation. I have a feeling the turnout wasn’t going to be all that and she decided to bow out and turn it into a wingnutty excuse.

She’s milking it. I’m not buying.

(The comments to that article linked in the tweet are as to be expected)

365 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:54:05am

I said it in the Santorum page but it infuriates me to see people who compare policy disliking to genocide. I swear. More I learn about the Nazis the more that tactic infuriates me. Started watching Nazi hunters on Netflix and the one guy who led the assassination of this Latvian Nazi talked about how both his parents were murdered in the camps. Wingnuts? Oh you have who think you shouldn’t be owning military hardware or if you’re Rick Santorum have gay people marrying, you’re nothing like a Holocaust victim. Nothing.

366 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2014 7:55:56am

re: #356 Eventual Carrion

We actually had a crazy Amish guy here a few years back behead his wife. He was found to be very mentally disabled, but still.

Must have secretly been a MOOZlim, because, you know, nobody else beheads people at all.
/////

368 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 4, 2014 7:56:23am

Drive by, busy morning. Changed the Nic for election day. A good turnout means good things happen.

369 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:56:39am

re: #364 ObserverArt

What? She will be in Texas…the gun loving state and she is worried about her protection in Rick Perry land.

Hmmm.

I think the protection she is really worried about is to her credibility and reputation. I have a feeling the turnout wasn’t going to be all that and she decided to bow out and turn it into a wingnutty excuse.

She’s milking it. I’m not buying.

(The comments to that article linked in the tweet are as to be expected

That’s probably the real reason. They claim the reason is the campus’s gun rules but I think they would have looked them up if they really were that concerned beforehand. So yeah I agree with ya. I reckon the campus group that invited her got little turnout out planned for the event because she’s a broken record. We’ve been hearing about how our second amendment rights are under attack since the Clinton years and hell you older lizards will probably correct me and say it goes back further than that even.

370 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 7:57:22am

re: #317 bill d

Gotta gin up some outrage.

Bingo!

It’s tough being a wingnut loon and the competition is stiff. After all, you have hard-charging Chuck C. “Small” Johnson in the ring just tossing other lesser loons out left and right.

371 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 7:59:30am

re: #367 Varek Raith

Virginians clash over removal of Confederate flag: ‘Then you need to go back to Africa!’
Sigh…

There’s many a time I’m proud to be a Virginian but this is one of those times where I point out that all four my grandparents were from a Yankee state and that my only Civil War veteran ancestor fought in a unit from said state. I mean really. Go back to Africa? Yeah how terrible of them to get upset about a flag being proudly displayed that was the flag of not just the fight to preserve human chattel but in the 60’s denying African Americans civil rights.

372 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 8:00:06am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately, the RWNJs have run out of superlatives for disaster so they have to recycle the ones they have. They’re down to the Holocaust, Hitler, and Pearl Harbor so everything and everyone that meets with their disapproval has to be compared to one of those three.

373 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 8:01:54am

re: #366 Blind Frog Ebola White

Must have secretly been a MOOZlim, because, you know, nobody else beheads people at all.
/////

and he probably had a beard…

374 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 8:02:11am

I posted a page about a Holocaust heroine who rescued a bunch of people and never touched a gun in her life.

375 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 8:02:13am

re: #335 Ian G.

Scared of minorities. Scared of Muslims. Scared of Ebola. Scared of damn well near everything. I sometimes have to remind myself how many wingnuts would be utterly terrified of the existence I live every day: being a white dude living in a majority-minority neighborhood.

I’m in the same boat. And, the second largest group/first minority are gays. I’ve hinted at it before…but my neighborhood is famous due to a certain Intercepter.

376 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:03:29am

re: #372 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Unfortunately, the RWNJs have run out of superlatives for disaster so they have to recycle the ones they have. They’re down to the Holocaust, Hitler, and Pearl Harbor so everything and everyone that meets with their disapproval has to be compared to one of those three.

Right. I mean, I think that’s part of my problem with them. I can do policy disagreement. I cannot do disagreement with people who think because I believe gays should be able to marry or that owning a machine gun shouldn’t be allowed it makes me a Nazi. Funny how conservatives cry about the mean liberals calling them racist which despite what they believe is something they earn when they inevitably go for the racial stereotypes.

377 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 8:03:52am

Alright so janie johnson keeps tweeting over & over that “Conservatives vote & go to work” but “DemocRATS vote & vote all day long”

Even though I blocked & muted her twitter feed I am still seeing all this shit.

378 andres  Nov 4, 2014 8:03:55am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Interesting. But yeah even with historical precedent, I still don’t like that. I see democracy as including the freedom not to vote too if so be it.

OTOH, you won’t get a rhino elected any other way.

379 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 8:03:57am
380 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:05:09am

re: #374 Vicious Piebola

I posted a page about a Holocaust heroine who rescued a bunch of people and never touched a gun in her life.

The pen was more dangerous than the sword in many a case. It was Schindler’s List not Schindler’s Luger.

381 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:05:54am

re: #378 andres

OTOH, you won’t get a rhino elected any other way.

I would rather have an Orangutan represent me than a rhino but that’s a cool story.

382 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:07:03am

re: #377 Vicious Piebola

Alright so janie johnson keeps tweeting over & over that “Conservatives vote & go to work” but “DemocRATS vote & vote all day long”

Even though I blocked & muted her twitter feed I am still seeing all this shit.

How ironic. But enough about conservatives and their obsession with this delusional idea that only they work and have work ethics.

383 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:07:24am

Aieee!

384 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 8:07:53am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

How ironic. But enough about conservatives and their obsession with this delusional idea that only they work and have work ethics.

Janie Johnson has never worked a day in her life. She hung out at the country club & then married a rich guy. How’s that for irony?

385 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:08:12am

re: #383 teleskiguy

Aieee!

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Damn my fear of heights got up just looking at that.

386 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 8:08:18am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

I would rather have an Orangutan represent me than a rhino but that’s a cool story.

ook

387 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:08:45am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

The pen was more dangerous than the sword in many a case. It was Schindler’s List not Schindler’s Luger Ruger.

FTFY

388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:10:00am

re:
#377

janie johnson keeps tweeting over & over that “Conservatives vote & go to work” but “DemocRATS vote & vote all day long”

Clearly this is someone with deep thoughts on the issues. //

389 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:10:27am

re: #384 Vicious Piebola

Janie Johnson has never worked a day in her life. She hung out at the country club & then married a rich guy. How’s that for irony?

Yeah that’s what I meant. You’ve talked about how she’s never worked before and married some rich dude. I just love the conservative inflated sense of self worth- only we work and have work ethics. Shit I despise conservatism and what it stands for but if I told you that I thought liberal people only could be compassionate and caring, I’d be rightfully laughed at just like Janie should be for suggesting what she did but then again she’s a conservative on twitter, delusion is who she is.

390 ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2014 8:10:28am

Later Lizards…gotta get busy. Let’s all hope for the best today.

391 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 8:10:50am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

There’s many a time I’m proud to be a Virginian but this is one of those times where I point out that all four my grandparents were from a Yankee state and that my only Civil War veteran ancestor fought in a unit from said state. I mean really. Go back to Africa? Yeah how terrible of them to get upset about a flag being proudly displayed that was the flag of not just the fight to preserve human chattel but in the 60’s denying African Americans civil rights.

The stars and bars is a flag of failure; political failure, economic failure, diplomatic failure, and military failure. But it’s all they have so a cynical ploy by the most advantaged in Southern society to guarantee that they could go on using human beings as farm machinery has become magically transmuted into a noble struggle for states’ rights.

392 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:10:52am

re: #387 teleskiguy

FTFY

I wanted the L’s to match!

393 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 8:12:04am

re: #383 teleskiguy

Aieee!

Acrobats over Chicago, 1955.

NOPE.

394 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 8:12:16am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

YAY. Go Allison.

I’m trying to avoid local election coverage for now—I know it will be depressing.

Woke this morning to a phone call telling me that not only will I not have to go to debtors’ prison, but that I actually overpaid my taxes, so I’m taking it as a good omen going forward for the rest of the day and hoping at least a few (or even one) of our statewide candidates can pull it out. I have red and white wine, beer, vodka and scotch on hand for when reality kicks in later in the day.

395 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 8:14:29am

re: #366 Blind Frog Ebola White

Must have secretly been a MOOZlim, because, you know, nobody else beheads people at all.
/////

He did have a raggedy beard.

396 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:15:18am

Not feeling very good this morning about the election. We’re sending a dyed-in-the-wool Tea Partyer to the Senate. I just hope John Hickenlooper gets re-elected, his opponent is a backward atavistic loon (like much of the Republican Party today, sadly).

What’s troubling is this guy from Colorado Springs will probably be elected to our state house. Even Republicans here don’t like the guy. But hey, as Dark_Falcon always says in so many words, GO TEAM GO!

I would say to LGF Lizards to “Go Vote” but I’m sure y’all already have or at least are on the case.

397 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:15:25am

I am just hoping VA-10 does the right thing here and does not elect Barbara Comstock to Congress. Real pathetic of her to claim that John Foust is a sexist when she’s the one that supported the now infamous transvaginal ultrasound bill. I really hope not just the women but the men of this district think about that when they vote here today. She can call him a tax and spender all he wants but a tax and spender is better than a pathetic moralist who thinks it’s okay to force probe in a woman’s vagina because she wants a legal procedure and one that made her bones in an organized smear of a president in the 90’s.

398 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:16:50am

re: #396 teleskiguy

Not feeling very good this morning about the election. We’re sending a dyed-in-the-wool Tea Partyer to the Senate. I just hope John Hickenlooper gets re-elected, his opponent is a backward atavistic loon (like much of the Republican Party today, sadly).

What’s troubling is this guy from Colorado Springs will probably be elected to our state house. Even Republicans here don’t like the guy. But hey, as Dark_Falcon always says in so many words, GO TEAM GO!

I would say to LGF Lizards to “Go Vote” but I’m sure y’all already have or at least are on the case.

Shame. I really thought Colorado was trending blue for good. Really sucks that Udall is going to lose to that con artist Gardner.

399 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 4, 2014 8:19:19am

re: #383 teleskiguy

Thanks for the BD wish! Didn’t get till this morning, I was analog last nite!

400 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:23:47am

I’m hoping for the possible Republican majority in the Senate for the people to stop believing “Well both parties are just as bad.” But the cynic in me says that many of them will see POTUS vetoing nonsense pushed by McConnell(or Cornyn whoever should McC lose) as POTUS being “inflexible.” Now this much I do know. There will be the same hatred for whoever replaces Obama at the top of the ballot in two years by the GOP and GOP base. I imagine eventually Republicans will pretend to venerate Obama just like they do Clinton’s presidency and really pretty much every Democratic president since FDR not named Jimmy Carter.

401 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:24:49am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Shame. I really thought Colorado was trending blue for good. Really sucks that Udall is going to lose to that con artist Gardner.

People have to keep in mind that Colorado, culturally, is three different states. You have the Front Range (all the “big” cities on the very edge of the Great Plains, right where the mountains start), you have the ski areas, and you have everything else (the eastern plains, the ranch land, the mountainous areas that are far away from a ski area).

The differences are stark. Colorado, like the rest of the nation, is deeply divided on a lot of things. Sure, the Democrats have had good years in Colorado, enough to dominate government for a few years. But just a few years.

Remember, in 2012 many counties in the eastern plains of Colorado voted on whether or not to secede from the state of Colorado. They voted no, but two counties voted yes.

402 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:26:43am

re: #401 teleskiguy

People have to keep in mind that Colorado, culturally, is three different states. You have the Front Range (all the “big” cities on the very edge of the Great Plains, right where the mountains start), you have the ski areas, and you have everything else (the eastern plains, the ranch land, the mountainous areas that are far away from a ski area).

The differences are stark. Colorado, like the rest of the nation, is deeply divided on a lot of things. Sure, the Democrats have had good years in Colorado, enough to dominate government for a few years. But just a few years.

Remember, in 2012 many counties in the eastern plains of Colorado voted on whether or not to succeed from the state of Colorado. They voted no, but two counties voted yes.

Gotcha, I think many states are like that. Great point about the secession. I had forgotten about that actually and the fact that even two counties voted yes.

403 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:29:18am

re:
#402

Sounds a lot like Maryland, which although it’s very blue overall, has some predominately Republican counties on the Eastern Shore and on the western border with West Virginia.

404 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:30:09am
405 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:31:23am

Virginians, I wasn’t aware until my grandmother told me today that John Warner had endorsed Mark Warner. And for those of you not familiar with our state. The two aren’t related and in fact ran against each other in ‘96 but my hazy recollection was that it was a friendly campaign with few personal attacks and John Warner was always a decent Republican. Hell he voted against confirming Robert Bork I believe. Also surprisingly good on choice and reasonable on guns for a Southern Republican.

406 Mike Lamb  Nov 4, 2014 8:33:41am

Do you think a Republican would ever ask the question: “If our policies are so popular, why do we only win when hardly anyone votes?”

Oh…doorbell rang. UPS must have delivered my unicorn…

407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:33:50am

re:
#405

Good for John Warner. Now we can expect Archmoron blogger Chuck C. Johnson and his fanboys to try to get his address….

408 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:35:06am
409 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:35:39am

re: #407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#405

Good for John Warner. Now we can expect Archmoron blogger Chuck C. Johnson and his fanboys to try to get his address….

I have to tell you it’s been amusing watching Ed Gillespie act like he’s somehow above the partisan fray when he was one of Dubya’s biggest hatchetmen. You live in Maryland though right? Hoping Brown can pull it out. Don’t know a lot about Hogan but his ads rub me the wrong way.

410 Mike Lamb  Nov 4, 2014 8:35:42am

re: #400 HappyWarrior

I’m hoping for the possible Republican majority in the Senate for the people to stop believing “Well both parties are just as bad.” But the cynic in me says that many of them will see POTUS vetoing nonsense pushed by McConnell(or Cornyn whoever should McC lose) as POTUS being “inflexible.” Now this much I do know. There will be the same hatred for whoever replaces Obama at the top of the ballot in two years by the GOP and GOP base. I imagine eventually Republicans will pretend to venerate Obama just like they do Clinton’s presidency and really pretty much every Democratic president since FDR not named Jimmy Carter.

There will be a major assist in that narrative from the media, and it is definitely my fear as well.

411 JustMark  Nov 4, 2014 8:36:30am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

Yeah, saw that ad. John Warner is a good dude. Hell, he married Liz Taylor, so there’s that too.

412 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:36:55am

re: #406 Mike Lamb

Do you think a Republican would ever ask the question: “If our policies are so popular, why do we only win when hardly anyone votes?”

Oh…doorbell rang. UPS must have delivered my unicorn…

No but I would love if someone asked a Republican that. Fact of the matter is they benefit with low turnouts and they know it.

413 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:39:10am
414 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:39:14am

re: #411 JustMark

Yeah, saw that ad. John Warner is a good dude. Hell, he married Liz Taylor, so there’s that too.

My Dad was saying that haha. But yeah Senator Warner (R) was always a decent dude. He’s refused to support Republican candidates in the past but this is the first time he’s ever came out for a Republican’s Democratic opponent. Granted he’s got an unique relationship with Mark Warner but I was still glad to see that. Warner was going beat Gillespie anyhow but it’s nice to see a true senior statesman of Virginia politics come out for him over that hack Gillespie.

415 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:40:56am

re: #410 Mike Lamb

There will be a major assist in that narrative from the media, and it is definitely my fear as well.

Yeah the media loves to prop up “Well both parties are both doing bad things.” Page here the other day had a story about how the media was making a big deal of Mrs. Obama mispronouncing the Democratic candidate in Iowa’s name but ignoring the fact that the woman he is running against is a genuine nutter butter.

416 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 8:41:01am

re: #326 Vicious Piebola

People who vote for 3rd parties are just the same as not voting.

Yes, I remember facing that realization in 2000, when neither major candidate had my confidence.

417 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 8:42:32am

I haz sticker now.

418 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 8:43:09am

re: #383 teleskiguy

Aieee!

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Nope.

419 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 8:45:37am

I like your new name Rightwingconspirator!

420 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:45:57am

I think we may be gaining even more Congressional loons though. Bachmann is the only one departing and there’s plenty of loony candidates in seats that will go Republican pretty much no matter what.

421 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 8:48:14am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

I think we may be gaining even more Congressional loons though. Bachmann is the only one departing and there’s plenty of loony candidates in seats that will go Republican pretty much no matter what.

Is Bachmann’s district sending out a new loon? Or has Minnesota gone solid sane in order to collect their forces for the necessary invasion of Wisconsin that will have to occur soon in order to properly implement socialist tyranny?
(and economic recovery)
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422 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:48:35am

re:
#409

Yeah I’m in Maryland and worried about Brown.

I actually think Hogan’s ads have mostly been pretty good, I give him credit, at least for their style. He’s got one where he fills in a box of squares with different taxes he claims O’Malley and Brown have foisted on defenseless Marylanders.

Substantively I don’t give a sh8t about some nickle and dime tax on this or that service or situation, and hopefully most voters won’t either. But he’s kept to his theme of Maryland being overtaxed, unfriendly to business, with too high a cost of living, etc.

Brown probably wasn’t the best candidate the Dems could have nominated as he was responsible directly or indirectly for the state’s botched healthcare site rollout, which had a worse time of it than the federal website.

Nonetheless, O’Malley and the state Dems helped get gay marriage approved among other positive changes. The roads are generally in pretty good shape, too, better than, say, Pennsylvania’s. But I would worry about how Hogan would implement, or not implement, the state’s continued efforts with Obamacare. Fortunately I don’t think a GOP governor could do much about SSM.

423 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:50:15am

re: #421 Feline Fearless Leader

Is Bachmann’s district sending out a new loon? Or has Minnesota gone solid sane in order to collect their forces for the necessary invasion of Wisconsin that will have to occur soon in order to properly implement socialist tyranny?
(and economic recovery)
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Oh I have no idea. You’d think that the candidate they chose to replace her is more sane.

424 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 8:50:17am

HALLOWEEN IS FREAKING OVER YOU DUMBFUCKS.

425 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:52:31am

re:
#424

HALLOWEEN IS FREAKING OVER YOU DUMBFUCKS.

Uh….Yeah, but…..See…Still….Um….BENGHAZI!!!!!!

426 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:53:31am

re: #422 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#409

Yeah I’m in Maryland and worried about Brown.

I actually think Hogan’s ads have mostly been pretty good, I give him credit, at least for their style. He’s got one where he fills in a box of squares with different taxes he claims O’Malley and Brown have foisted on defenseless Marylanders.

Substantively I don’t give a sh8t about some nickle and dime tax on this or that service or situation, and hopefully most voters won’t either. But he’s kept to his theme of Maryland being overtaxed, unfriendly to business, with too high a cost of living, etc.

Brown probably wasn’t the best candidate the Dems could have nominated as he was responsible directly or indirectly for the state’s botched healthcare site rollout, which had a worse time of it than the federal website.

Nonetheless, O’Malley and the state Dems helped get gay marriage approved among other positive changes. The roads are generally in pretty good shape, too, better than, say, Pennsylvania’s. But I would worry about how Hogan would implement, or not implement, the state’s continued efforts with Obamacare. Fortunately I don’t think a GOP governor could do much about SSM.

Okay, thanks. But yeah that’s a good point about Hogan. Seems to me that with the positive changes that Brown should be running on that. Granted I haven’t seen a ton of his ads. Hogan’s smart to run away from the cultural issues but then again he wouldn’t have a shot if he did.

427 ipsos  Nov 4, 2014 8:54:49am

The hell? I have a FB “friend” from Florida who I follow mostly to see just how far right he can go. Today he’s openly debating whether to vote for Rick Scott or the Libertarian. So far, so good. Until one of his friends weighed in with this:

“Crist is a damn Communist, and Scott caved to the negroes and tried to railroad Zimmerman on a phony murder charge. I am voting Wylie because I have run out of other candidates. “

Caved to the negroes. The negroes.

Is it still 1954 in Florida or something? Sheesh.

428 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 8:56:55am

re: #427 ipsos

Is it still 1954 in Florida or something? Sheesh.

For many people, it never stopped being 1954, it’s just that they now have a mouthpiece to tell the whole world what a bunch of backward crackers they are.

429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 8:58:34am

re:
#426

Brown’s ads—and it’s a shame that’s what we ultimately end up talking about, the ads—have mostly been pretty mediocre, the kind of “negative” ads the GOP tends to run, linking the candidate with some negative thing. I don’t disagree with that, just the quality was pretty blah. Brown also has championed universal pre-K or something like it. Don’t know how doable that is, but we’ll see. Also, Brown’s running mate for Lieutenant Governor is the County Executive of Howard County—my county. His name’s Ken Ulman, and he’s a good guy. I’ve met him. He’s young. Younger than me. Would probably run next time if Brown loses. Would be set up to run in eight years if Brown got two terms.

430 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 8:58:50am

re: #427 ipsos

The hell? I have a FB “friend” from Florida who I follow mostly to see just how far right he can go. Today he’s openly debating whether to vote for Rick Scott or the Libertarian. So far, so good. Until one of his friends weighed in with this:

“Crist is a damn Communist, and Scott caved to the negroes and tried to railroad Zimmerman on a phony murder charge. I am voting Wylie because I have run out of other candidates. “

Caved to the negroes. The negroes.

Is it still 1954 in Florida or something? Sheesh.

I’ve said it here many times before but I really think many Americans never got over the Civil Rights Movement being successful. We may celebrate MLK Day officially as a nation but I suspect there’s a lot of Americans who still hate what he stand for despite their claims otherwise. Really hoping Crist can win there.

431 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 8:59:55am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Yeah the media loves to prop up “Well both parties are both doing bad things.” Page here the other day had a story about how the media was making a big deal of Mrs. Obama mispronouncing the Democratic candidate in Iowa’s name but ignoring the fact that the woman he is running against is a genuine nutter butter.

Yeah—the media are doing most of the heavy lifting for the Republicans:

OMG, Tom Harkin said Joni was good-looking!!! (that Ermst is a total conspiracy theory wingnut—crickets.)

OMG, Baker shed a tear at the debate, there goes Massachusetts.

OMG, a dispute over a fan during a debate in Florida—let’s cover that for days on end and avoid talking about hideous Rick Scott policy.

OMG—FitzGerald was driving on an expired license. Kasich refuses to answer questions for the Plain Dealer? What the hell, let’s endorse him anway.

OMG—Grimes wanted to keep her secret ballot secret!!! That disqualifies her from every holding elected office, probably forever. Let’s talk about that for days and weeks and never mention any of McConnell’s heinous words and deeds.

OMG—Ebola’s gonna kill us all, and that is what people are concerned about and why they are going to vote against Democrats. Of course, polling shows the exact opposite, but why let that get in the way of a good story.

Lather, rinse, repeat and provide the Republicans that 2-3% margin they need to win.

432 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:00:40am

re:
#424

WALMART PULLS OFFENSIVE Halloween GARB

The Catholic F0cking League. smh. Donohue probably threatened to shop in one of their crappy stores.

433 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 9:01:13am

re: #399 Stanley Seabola

Thanks for the BD wish! Didn’t get till this morning, I was analog last nite!

YOUR NOT SPECIAL

434 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:01:40am

re: #431 BeachDem

Yeah—the media are doing most of the heavy lifting for the Republicans:

OMG, Tom Harkin said Joni was good-looking!!! (that Ermst is a total conspiracy theory wingnut—crickets.)

OMG, Baker shed a tear at the debate, there goes Massachusetts.

OMG, a dispute over a fan during a debate in Florida—let’s cover that for days on end and avoid talking about hideous Rick Scott policy.

OMG—FitzGerald was driving on an expired license. Kasich refuses to answer questions for the Plain Dealer? What the hell, let’s endorse him anway.

OMG—Grimes wanted to keep her secret ballot secret!!! That disqualifies her from every holding elected office, probably forever. Let’s talk about that for days and weeks and never mention any of McConnell’s heinous words and deeds.

OMG—Ebola’s gonna kill us all, and that is what people are concerned about and why they are going to vote against Democrats. Of course, polling shows the exact opposite, but why let that get in the way of a good story.

Lather, rinse, repeat and provide the Republicans that 2-3% margin they need to win.

Really, the media is such a joke. Focus on petty bs and ignore the real problems.

435 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 4, 2014 9:02:13am

Just off the top of my California born and raised head, this election may be hard on progressives. But so many big factors are swinging the other way, density, age, technologies….

Guys even if this goes bad it’s a last gasp desperation thing for the right.

436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:02:32am

re:
#426

Reminds me of one of Gillespie’s ads, horribly bad, trying to link Warner to some kind of scandal with the interspliced news commentary, etc. I can’t for the life of me recall any scandal associated with Warner.

437 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 9:03:38am

re: #435 Indy GOP Refugee

Just off the top of my California born and raised head, this election may be hard on progressives. But so many big factors are swinging the other way, density, age, technologies….

Guys even if this goes bad it’s a last gasp desperation thing for the right.

Money can prevent a lot of things from changing if it is piled high and deep enough.

438 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:03:52am

re:
#435

I dig the new name, too. Cool.

439 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:04:35am

re: #429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#426

Brown’s ads—and it’s a shame that’s what we ultimately end up talking about, the ads—have mostly been pretty mediocre, the kind of “negative” ads the GOP tends to run, linking the candidate with some negative thing. I don’t disagree with that, just the quality was pretty blah. Brown also has championed universal pre-K or something like it. Don’t know how doable that is, but we’ll see. Also, Brown’s running mate for Lieutenant Governor is the County Executive of Howard County—my county. His name’s Ken Ulman, and he’s a good guy. I’ve met him. He’s young. Younger than me. Would probably run next time if Brown loses. Would be set up to run in eight years if Brown got two terms.

Yeah I haven’t been impressed with his ads. Good that the Lt Governor candidate has a future. What’s interesting though is IIRC you guys vote for a ticket like we would in a presidential election but here across the Potomac, we vote for governor and lt governor and AG as individuals and I guess the reason why I bring this up is because like the Dem running for Lt Governor that you like, I really liked the Dem who ran for AG here. It ended up being the closest race and he actually had the least wingbatty opponent though the difference between Obenshain and Herring on key issues was enough to make Herring a very important vote for me. I hope Brown can pull it out though. Hogan doesn’t seem the worst but like you I wouldn’t trust him with things like the ACA rollout.

440 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:06:37am

re: #436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#426

Reminds me of one of Gillespie’s ads, horribly bad, trying to link Warner to some kind of scandal with the interspliced news commentary, etc. I can’t for the life of me recall any scandal associated with Warner.

I think I know what they’re talking about but Warner had little to do with it. I like how Warner responded to the ad though. He had a registered Republican call the ad a petty partisan attack. I wasn’t worried about Mark though even if we were looking at a 2010 type year for the Dems.

441 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 9:08:27am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

Really, the media is such a joke. Focus on petty bs and ignore the real problems.

While Chuck Todd wrings his hands.
(spit)

442 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:09:30am

re:
#439

Yeah Herring done good. I remember that race.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Brown. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he lost.

And like with any campaign or candidate anywhere, a particular party is just not going to win every race. Sometimes the year is bad, sometimes the candidate. And in a state as dominated by Democrats as Maryland is there tends to be room, ironically, for people to vote for a Republican, particularly if he or she casts themselves as some kind of moderate reformer. But a conservative Republican isn’t going to win repeatedly in Maryland.

443 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 9:10:13am

re: #435 Indy GOP Refugee

Just off the top of my California born and raised head, this election may be hard on progressives. But so many big factors are swinging the other way, density, age, technologies….

Guys even if this goes bad it’s a last gasp desperation thing for the right.

I think this is spot-on analysis.

Cory Gardner, the maybe-next Junior Senator from Colorado is 40 years old. Which goes to show how much of a right wing nut job toady he is, a not-very-good human being.

444 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:10:24am

re: #441 Feline Fearless Leader

While Chuck Todd wrings his hands.
(spit)

Yeah Chuck Todd is one of the worst. Really I’ll admit it here. I think bias is inevitable but when one lets that bias get in the way and it surely does with Todd and FNC, then you don’t have news. You have sensationalist nonsense disguised as news. The media constantly MBFing too is terrible. It’s the media attempting to avoid being called liberal or conservative but it actually makes them look worse.

445 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:11:31am

re:
#440

I happen to like both of Virginia’s Senators, Kaine, too. Both serious minded, principled but practical. Neither are especially “sexy”, but good public servants and Democrats.

446 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:12:44am

re: #442 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#439

Yeah Herring done good. I remember that race.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Brown. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he lost.

And like with any campaign or candidate anywhere, a particular party is just not going to win every race. Sometimes the year is bad, sometimes the candidate. And in a state as dominated by Democrats as Maryland is there tends to be room, ironically, for people to vote for a Republican, particularly if he or she casts themselves as some kind of moderate reformer. But a conservative Republican isn’t going to win repeatedly in Maryland.

Shades of Ehrlich in 2002. But yeah Herring has been great. When he fought hard for the overturning of our gay marriage and civil union ban here, I said that it was among my most proud votes. I still don’t like Terry McAulliffe at all. I do like the Lt Governor Northam though I don’t know a ton about him other than that he’s been despite being from a fairly conservative area a strong voice on choice.

447 JustMark  Nov 4, 2014 9:14:23am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Shades of Ehrlich in 2002. But yeah Herring has been great. When he fought hard for the overturning of our gay marriage and civil union ban here, I said that it was among my most proud votes. I still don’t like Terry McAulliffe at all. I do like the Lt Governor Northam though I don’t know a ton about him other than that he’s been despite being from a fairly conservative area a strong voice on choice.

Yeah, not a huge McAullife fan either, but thank god we didnt end up with Cuccinelli.

448 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:14:51am

I freaking hate captcha.

449 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:15:58am

re: #447 JustMark

Yeah, not a huge McAullife fan either, but thank god we didnt end up with Cuccinelli.

Yeah that was a huge huge bullet dodged. I am glad that Webb’s seat was up last year and not this year because I think Kaine-Allen would be a lot closer this year. I actually like Kaine more than Warner. I do like Warner of course but I think Kaine’s more my type ideologically.

450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:16:30am

re:
#447

…thank god we didnt end up with Cuccinelli.

Would have been like Christie only worse.

451 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:18:25am

But yeah these things happen. Parties have good years. They have bad years. Sometimes the narrative gets put out there. What I do hope for though is that the GOP majority in the House will not last as long as the previous one did and that the Senate takeover if it happens will be brief. I just wish voters had longer memories. I also wish they would educate themselves. You’re freaking out about Ebola yet you trust a party that wants to cut aid to Ebola where it’s the most heavy? SMFH.

452 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 9:19:57am

I think there’s less to worry about with ALEC than there is with the Lefts ongoing attempt to criminalize dissent. The IRS scandal, the out of control prosecutor in Travis County, Texas. John Oliver should be more concerned about what they are doing in Ohio and Minnesota, where they empowered a government panel to determine if the claims in a political advertisement is true “enough” to be allowed in public discourse.

453 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:20:27am

re: #450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#447

Would have been like Christie only worse.

Cucinnelli would be if Rick Santorum ever got elected to an executive spot. So combine Santorum’s religious reactionarism with Christie’s attitude to anyone who doesn’t think he’s the greatest thing since pizza at 1 in the morning after a night of barhopping and that’s Ken Cuccinneli.

454 SteelPH  Nov 4, 2014 9:22:52am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

Projecting like an iMax.

455 allegro  Nov 4, 2014 9:23:44am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

WTF are you on about this morning? Do you even try to make sense?

456 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:23:47am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

Lol.

457 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 9:23:58am

re: #454 SteelPH

Really looking forward to this evening! How about you guys?

458 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:24:21am

This is TEH MOAST STUPIDS you will read all day.

459 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 9:24:22am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

It is a standard talking RW point that when right-wingers are called out on lies, bullying, cheating, racism, sexism and/or outright fraud that it is a case of Leftists stifling dissent and infringing on their First Amendment rights.

I am not going to argue the point with you here, as you are obviously fully committed to that point of view.

460 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 9:24:34am

re: #455 allegro

Good morning to you…looking forward to the results later this evening!

461 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 9:24:45am

IRS scandal. LOL.

462 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:24:50am

re: #457 walkingdeadhead

Really looking forward to this evening! How about you guys?

Indeed.
When the GOP realizes they have to actually govern and not blame Reid for it,
it’ll be gold.

463 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:25:15am

I swear though the crap the Virginia Republican Party puts on our plates keeps on getting worse and worse. In not even a decade we’ve gone from having people like John Warner, Tom Davis, and even Frank Wolf on our ballots to people Cuccinnelli, Ed Gillespie, and Barbara Comstock. The GOP is frankly regressing. They will probably have a good night tonight but it will be due to the fact that the base that elected Obama twice mostly doesn’t bother to show up in midterms. I see a possible GOP victory tonight as a short term victory. They could just as easily lose the Senate in two years and I could see the House majority being trimmed in 2016 as well.

464 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 9:25:54am

re: #462 Varek Raith

Indeed.
When the GOP realizes they have to actually govern and not blame Reid for it,
it’ll be gold.

The GOP will wind up with a net gain of seats and immediately trumpet this as a mandate to run Obama out of town on a rail.

465 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:26:14am

re: #462 Varek Raith

Indeed.
When the GOP realizes they have to actually govern and not blame Reid for it,
it’ll be gold.

Bingo.

466 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:26:42am

re: #464 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP will wind up with a net gain of seats and immediately trumpet this as a mandate to run Obama out of town on a rail.

Yep, and it’ll backfire on them spectacularly.

467 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:27:06am

No party knows overreach like the GOP.

468 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 9:27:13am

re: #459 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

469 SteelPH  Nov 4, 2014 9:27:56am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

Yes. Now stop lying about everything.

470 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 9:27:57am

re: #467 Varek Raith

No party knows overreach like the GOP.

They will try to repeal ACA, probably vote to impeach Obama and block all his nominations to vacant posts.

And then accuse Obama of being a dictator.

471 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:28:39am

re: #467 Varek Raith

No party knows overreach like the GOP.

Yep. It’s why in large part I think we have a Dem governor, lt governor, and AG here in Virginia today. If the GOP should take the Senate and it’s a real possibility that they will, I think you’ll see a lot of overreaching on their part because they’ll wrongfully see this as a mandate for them to do all the crazy shit they want.

472 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:28:41am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

Your party investigated it to death.
They didn’t find anything worth going after people over.
Try again.

473 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:29:15am

Even with the predicted GOP gains it seems like a number of Republicans have struggled this year. Some races closer than I would have thought. Hagan in NC. Roberts in KS. The SD race was close for a while or so I heard. How’s Burke doing in Wisconsin?

474 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 9:29:43am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

The Fox News World Imagination has Obama rounding up our weapons, putting us into secularist-Islamist FEMA camps, infecting us with equal doses of Sharia and Ebola…yes it was a figment of your imagination.

475 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 9:30:05am

Up next - Fast & Furious! Lame movie or the scandal that could take Obama down??

It’s like watching TV while all the shows are on hiatus.

476 SteelPH  Nov 4, 2014 9:30:35am

re: #475 makeitstop

It’s like bad reruns of a bad show.

477 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 9:30:42am

re: #469 SteelPH

Keep up that delusional outlook, it explains a lot about why your side is going to get poleaxed tonight!

478 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:30:59am

re:
#468

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

Actually, yes.

479 Flounder  Nov 4, 2014 9:31:00am

re: #460 walkingdeadhead

I am wondering if the next two years we will be hearing “minority rights” when it comes to the house and senate and the minority party getting their way. I doubt the Republicans will sweep it today, I really do.

480 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:31:27am

re: #477 walkingdeadhead

Keep up that delusional outlook, it explains a lot about why your side is going to get poleaxed tonight!

You do know your party will now have to actually govern, right?

481 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 9:31:38am

Poleaxed. LOL.

482 SteelPH  Nov 4, 2014 9:31:50am

re: #477 walkingdeadhead

I love how you tell me what I think. You’ve never met me and you know nothing about me. Now quit your lying.

483 De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2014 9:31:58am

re: #458 Vicious Piebola

This is TEH MOAST STUPIDS you will read all day.


“Vote nein on Proposition 6!!!”

484 Varek Raith  Nov 4, 2014 9:32:05am

Cheese and crackers, my grammar sucks today.

485 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:32:13am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

IRS Scandal?

You mean when WE WANT TO ABOLISH TEH IRS!!!!! Tea Party orgs applied for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status and their applications got looked at as part of the application process, and they received their 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status but not as instantly as they were expecting it?

THAT “IRS Scandal”?

486 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:32:14am

re: #480 Varek Raith

You do now your party will now have to actually govern, right?

Govern? Is that where we push a repeal of a president’s signature legislation and then complain when he doesn’t sign it for the 100th time.

487 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:32:43am
TPM: Sharyl Attkisson: ‘I Kind Of Assume’ I’m On Obama’s Enemies List

Bwwwwaaaaaaahhah

488 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:32:54am

re: #477 walkingdeadhead

Keep up that delusional outlook, it explains a lot about why your side is going to get poleaxed tonight!

But but but I thought we had All The Voter Frauds!

489 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 9:33:40am

heh…

490 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 9:33:45am

re: #459 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a standard talking RW point that when right-wingers are called out on lies, bullying, cheating, racism, sexism and/or outright fraud that it is a case of Leftists stifling dissent and infringing on their First Amendment rights.

I am not going to argue the point with you here, as you are obviously fully committed to that point of view.

Just another rerun.

491 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2014 9:34:09am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

Who was convicted?

492 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:34:24am

HEAR IZ MOAR STUPIDS

493 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 4, 2014 9:34:55am

I voted, not that the democratic candidates have a chance, but it made me feel good. There are a couple of pretty important ballot measures however.

One would amend the state constitution to allow the state legislature to enact, amend or repeal state statutes regarding abortion, including for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest or when necessary to protect the mother’s life. That got a resounding NO from me. That one may be close when the votes are counted.

The second one would amend the state constitution to permanently prevent an income tax in TN. (right now it’s all Sales Tax). I voted NO on that on that one, but I strongly suspect that it will win, because a regressive tax is always the best way to fund the state.

RBS

494 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 9:35:08am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

I think there’s less to worry about with ALEC than there is with the Lefts ongoing attempt to criminalize dissent. The IRS scandal, the out of control prosecutor in Travis County, Texas. John Oliver should be more concerned about what they are doing in Ohio and Minnesota, where they empowered a government panel to determine if the claims in a political advertisement is true “enough” to be allowed in public discourse.

Where ya been sweetie? Been missing your blast from the past talking points. Got any news on what shenanigans ACORN has been up to this election cycle?

495 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:36:30am

re:
#493

I voted NO on that on that one, but I strongly suspect that it will win, because a regressive tax is always the best way to fund the state.

Hurr hurr be4 1913 we could all keep the moneys we earned!!!!!111

496 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 9:37:26am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

I guess the IRS scandal was just a figment of our imagination

Yours and your ilk, yes. Facts show different. But don’t worry your beautiful mind about such mundane things.

497 SteelPH  Nov 4, 2014 9:39:02am

Off to begin streaming, for I shall play video games and yell at them for the internet. Truly an idyllic life.

498 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:39:55am

TPM: Erick son of Erick:

“When the new Republican Congress convenes next year, tries to lead, and looks over its shoulder, there won’t be many conservatives following,” Erickson wrote.

Dismayed by Barbour’s victory lap, Erickson sounded the same note on his blog on Tuesday, lamenting the governor’s assertion that “the GOP’s destruction of conservatives in Mississippi will win this thing tonight.”

“It is worth noting that both Circle of Jerks in the press corps and the DC GOP Establishment have a vested interest in pushing out this narrative,” Erickson wrote.

talkingpointsmemo.com

499 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 9:40:00am

Robocall right now from Mitch!
He says the race is “extremely close” and he needs 17 more votes in my precinct (with my county name sloppily dubbed in).
LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Too late, Mitch…I just got back from voting for Alison.

500 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:41:44am

re: #498 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

TPM: Erick son of Erick:

talkingpointsmemo.com

This is part of their undoing. They’re never happy because in this case Mississippi didn’t nominate the neo-confederate batshit conservative rather than the regular batshit conservative Cochran.

501 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 4, 2014 9:42:08am

502 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 4, 2014 9:42:29am

re: #452 walkingdeadhead

The only ones to criminalize dissent were the Republicans under Dumb-dumb Dubya.

503 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 9:43:12am

re: #492 Vicious Piebola

HEAR IZ MOAR STUPIDS

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I read this. I HAZ A DUMB! WAT DO I DOO?!?

504 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 4, 2014 9:43:30am

re: #468 walkingdeadhead

Yes. Yes it was.

505 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 9:44:15am
506 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 9:45:15am
507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:45:35am

So the Democrats nominated Martha Coakley to a state-wide office again. Doing same thing over and over, expecting different results.

At least it looks like Pennsylvania will go back to the Dem this year.

Nunn in GA still close in her Senate race.

508 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 9:45:47am
509 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 9:45:50am

re: #500 HappyWarrior

This is part of their undoing. They’re never happy because Mississippi didn’t nominate the neo-confederate batshit conservative rather than the regular batshit conservative Cochran.

Like Jim Wright said the other day - Republicans can’t even agree on things they agree on.

It’s gonna be fun watching these mooks try to govern. It’s been so long since they even attempted legislating from a positive vision, I’d wager they’ve completely forgotten how.

510 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:46:29am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That can’t be good news for Mitch. I don’t know anything about his home polling place but that can’t be good for him.

511 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 9:48:01am

Who among us wouldn’t be a bit incoherent if we had an ISIL beheading squad under our bed, Black Panthers lurking in the corners of our room in Mom’s basement and Ebola-laden chemtrails raining down?

Show some compassion.

512 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 9:48:03am

re: #165 klystron

My new Kindle arrived today.

I adore the texture on the back. I just want to fondle it all the time.

What kind did you get? How are the page turns? I got a Paperwhite a few months ago and the page turns are soooo slow.

513 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:49:19am

re: #507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So the Democrats nominated Martha Coakley to a state-wide office again. Doing same thing over and over, expecting different results.

At least it looks like Pennsylvania will go back to the Dem this year.

Nunn in GA still close in her Senate race.

Would love to see Nunn pull that out. Broun if elected would immediately be one up there with Cruz as one of the senate’s biggest nuts. He was comparing Obama to Hitler before Obama even became president and he called evolution from the fiery pits of hell. Good for my grandparents home state of Pa though. Don’t know what the Mass Dems were thinking nominating Coakley for high office again.

514 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 9:50:24am

re: #227 ObserverArt

That’s the problem with mail-in ballots, I didn’t get the little sticker.

I’m bummed…but I voted!

I voted early in person and didn’t get one either. :-(

515 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:50:49am

re:
#512

What kind did you get? How are the page turns? I got a Paperwhite a few months ago and the page turns are soooo slow.

Yeah I just got a Paperwhite and have the same problem from time to time. And it’s taken some time to get accustomed to moving around in it. Overall pretty happy with it though. Has the much needed backlight now that I take a bus which is pretty dark at night.

516 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 9:51:09am
517 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:51:58am

re: #516 Kragar

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There’s a lot of people in this state who haven’t gotten over Appamatox still.

518 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:52:12am

Way to misdirect, Miss Inez. BTW you DO KNOW you’re not supposed to vote, because Fox News said young ladies like yourself should be on Tinder & Instagram.

519 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 9:52:23am

OK, the new Die Antwoord music video is shit, and all the celebrities don’t change this fact. Not even Manson.

Youtube Video

520 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 9:53:12am

re: #510 HappyWarrior

That can’t be good news for Mitch. I don’t know anything about his home polling place but that can’t be good for him.

It’s a liberal precinct, but that high of a turnout is not good news for him.

521 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:54:36am

re:
#518

Just a reminder, ladies:in NO STATE is a ban of contraception on the ballot. Because NO ONE actually wants to do that.

And yet it was only a few decades ago when contraception needed to be legalized. I guess the good old days really weren’t so good for Inez.

//

522 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 9:54:52am

re: #513 HappyWarrior

Would love to see Nunn pull that out. Broun if elected would immediately be one up there with Cruz as one of the senate’s biggest nuts. He was comparing Obama to Hitler before Obama even became president and he called evolution from the fiery pits of hell. Good for my grandparents home state of Pa though. Don’t know what the Mass Dems were thinking nominating Coakley for high office again.

Establishment candidate. Parties can be very stick-in-the-mud that way. And, in part, that’s one of my fears about Hillary.

523 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:55:44am

re: #518 Vicious Piebola

Way to misdirect, Miss Inez. BTW you DO KNOW you’re not supposed to vote, because Fox News said young ladies like yourself should be on Tinder & Instagram.

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No one wants to ban contraception? HAhahaha who the hell is she kidding.She must have missed the numerous RR activists that not only have a problem with Eisenstadt but also Griswold.

524 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:55:58am

re: #521 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#518

Just a reminder, ladies:in NO STATE is a ban of contraception on the ballot. Because NO ONE actually wants to do that.

And yet it was only a few decades ago when contraception needed to be legalized. I guess the good old days really weren’t so good for Inez.

//

INEZ IS A GOOD GIRL!!!! SHE’S NOT HAVING TEH SEXYTIMES UNTIL SHE GET MARRIED!!!1!!!!!!!

525 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 9:56:12am

re: #227 ObserverArt

That’s the problem with mail-in ballots, I didn’t get the little sticker.

I’m bummed…but I voted!

Here you go: print this out and tape it to your shirt. :)

526 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:56:50am

re: #522 Feline Fearless Leader

Establishment candidate. Parties can be very stick-in-the-mud that way. And, in part, that’s one of my fears about Hillary.

Mine too. I really don’t like the next in line stuff. If Hillary is the best candidate for the Dem nomination then I want her to earn it the same way Obama and Clinton before him did.

527 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:56:53am

re:
#518

Re: contraception,

IIRC, wasn’t it the ACTIVIST COURTS that determined the state couldn’t ban them??

LET the PEOPLe vote!!!!1

528 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:58:17am

TEH MOAST STUPIDS has just been overtaken by THIS STUPID:
I don’t even know what this means? DON’T VOTE? VOTE LIBERTARIAN OR OTHER WHACKED 3RD PARTY? (which IMO is the same as not voting at all)

529 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 9:58:20am

re: #520 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a liberal precinct, but that high of a turnout is not good news for him.

You mean to tell me that Mitch doesn’t live among those who comprise his base? The simple farmers, the people of the land? The common clay of the new South? You know… morons.

530 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 9:58:28am

re: #521 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#518

Just a reminder, ladies:in NO STATE is a ban of contraception on the ballot. Because NO ONE actually wants to do that.

It’s on the ballot today in Colorado for the third time in five or so years.

531 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 9:58:30am
532 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 9:58:37am

re: #527 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#518

Re: contraception,

IIRC, wasn’t it the ACTIVIST COURTS that determined the state couldn’t ban them??

LET the PEOPLe vote!!!!1

Yes, Griswold versus Connecticut and Eisenstadt versus Baird. And the Catholic church isn’t too fond of contraception either and has voiced as much. I don’t know if any candidate has come for banning all contraception but what I do know is this and this is why Inez is a deceitful right wing hack that there are many right wing candidates who want to make contraceptives harder to access.

533 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:59:19am

re: #526 HappyWarrior

Mine too. I really don’t like the next in line stuff. If Hillary is the best candidate for the Dem nomination then I want her to earn it the same way Obama and Clinton before him did.

I so want somebody to come out of nowhere and snatch the nomination away from Hillary, just like Obama did in 2008.

Elizabeth Warren? Joe Biden?

534 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 9:59:33am

re: #530 teleskiguy

It’s on the ballot today in Colorado for the third time in five or so years.

Tweet that!

535 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 9:59:38am

re:
#531

Do you know who I AM??????

536 Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2014 10:01:12am

re: #531 Kragar

Translation: I’m a wingnut playing to the Fox “News” crowd.

537 Iwouldprefernotto  Nov 4, 2014 10:01:58am

re: #518 Vicious Piebola

Way to misdirect, Miss Inez. BTW you DO KNOW you’re not supposed to vote, because Fox News said young ladies like yourself should be on Tinder & Instagram.

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This is a $@#%$#@%$# lie. There are personhood amendments on the ballot in several states, some of which would make the pill illegal.

538 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:02:27am

re: #533 Vicious Piebola

I so want somebody to come out of nowhere and snatch the nomination away from Hillary, just like Obama did in 2008.

Elizabeth Warren? Joe Biden?

No idea. Of those two, I think Biden would be the better president. I love Senator Warren but I think she’s perhaps a better legislator than president but then again, I probably would have felt that way about Senator Obama in 2007. Here’s the thing about Hillary that just rubs me the wrong way and it did in the 2008 campaign but I feel that she ran as if she was entitled to the nomination. I saw the same attitude in Romney in both 2008 and 2012, and it’s not an attitude I like. If Hillary truly is the best the Dems have, I really want her to earn it.

539 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 10:03:11am

re: #537 Iwouldprefernotto

This is a $@#%$#@%$# lie. There are personhood amendments on the ballot in several states, some of which would make the pill illegal.

“Teh pill kills the baby! What do you mean what baby? Yes, that bunch of cells is the baby!”

540 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:03:13am

re: #534 Vicious Piebola

Tweet that!

OK.

541 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 10:04:13am

re: #515 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#512

Yeah I just got a Paperwhite and have the same problem from time to time. And it’s taken some time to get accustomed to moving around in it. Overall pretty happy with it though. Has the much needed backlight now that I take a bus which is pretty dark at night.

I wanted one really badly but nothing seems to match reading experience on the Kindle iPhone app. You just don’t get all the related goodies from a real Kindle. (sigh)

542 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:04:28am

This picture (THEIR ARE NO PICTURES OF OBAMA LIKE THIS!!!!! NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!) has replaced the one of Reagan wiping his mouth on the flag.

543 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:05:16am

I’ll have to add that caption to my meme of Obama saluting the casket of a fallen hero.

544 klystron  Nov 4, 2014 10:05:42am

re: #512 WhatEVs

What kind did you get? How are the page turns? I got a Paperwhite a few months ago and the page turns are soooo slow.

I got the Voyage, upgrading from my Paperwhite (which upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard).

Page turn speed is about the same, so if you didn’t like it on the Paperwhite/were expecting something like the speed on the iPad, still nope. On the other hand, I find it comparable to how long it actually takes to turn the page when reading a physical book, so I’m fine with it.

545 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:06:00am

re: #539 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

“Teh pill kills the baby! What do you mean what baby? Yes, that bunch of cells is the baby!”

Personhood implies that if one were faced with the dilemma of being forced to choose between saving the lives of a classroom of school kids versus a saving a freezer full of 1000 fertilized eggs, that saving the freezer would be the only moral, logical course of action.

546 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 10:06:35am

re: #545 Kragar

Personhood implies that if one were faced with the dilemma of being forced to choose between saving the lives of a classroom of school kids versus a saving a freezer full of 1000 fertilized eggs, that saving the freezer would be the only moral, logical course of action.

Yep.

547 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 10:06:37am

re: #519 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

OK, the new Die Antwoord music video is shit, and all the celebrities don’t change this fact. Not even Manson.

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Video

Yolandi’s voice still works on my brain, though.

548 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:07:44am

re: #512 WhatEVs

What kind did you get? How are the page turns? I got a Paperwhite a few months ago and the page turns are soooo slow.

re: #544 klystron

I got the Voyage, upgrading from my Paperwhite (which upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard).

Page turn speed is about the same, so if you didn’t like it on the Paperwhite/were expecting something like the speed on the iPad, still nope. On the other hand, I find it comparable to how long it actually takes to turn the page when reading a physical book, so I’m fine with it.

#FirstWorldProblems

*snark* *giggle*

549 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 10:07:54am

re:
#540

Folks in Colorado are voting on “Personhood” today, which is a very anti-woman thing. Vote NO on Amendment 67!

Less government! Freedom! Get government out of the way and off are bakcs!!!!!1

550 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:07:57am

re: #526 HappyWarrior

Mine too. I really don’t like the next in line stuff. If Hillary is the best candidate for the Dem nomination then I want her to earn it the same way Obama and Clinton before him did.

551 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:09:19am

re: #542 Vicious Piebola

This picture (THEIR ARE NO PICTURES OF OBAMA LIKE THIS!!!!! NOT EVEN ONE!!!!!) has replaced the one of Reagan wiping his mouth on the flag.

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552 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:09:28am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really really want marijuana to become like gay marriage has. And here’s the thing. I think it can. I am not pie in the sky enough to think that all drugs will but I really think we can get marijuana as a legitimate issue. And I guess that’s the other thing about Hillary. I don’t know if she’s able to talk about that issue with strength.

553 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:10:57am

re: #551 Kragar

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They’re obsessed with visual optics. I mean those are both nice photos and I don’t doubt Bush cared for the troops but at the same time, I respect the president more that has gone to bat for veterans and making sure they readjust after coming home. And that president is the one that the moron that you RTed despises.

554 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:11:04am

There actually ARE NO PHOTOS of Reagan or Bush saluting a fallen warrior.

555 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 10:12:09am

re: #551 Kragar

He should consult his lawyers, because apparently google has banned him.

556 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 10:13:07am
no matter what he did was right or wrong at least we had a leader

LOL. One people. One country. One leader.

557 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 10:15:52am

re: #528 Vicious Piebola

TEH MOAST STUPIDS has just been overtaken by THIS STUPID:
I don’t even know what this means? DON’T VOTE? VOTE LIBERTARIAN OR OTHER WHACKED 3RD PARTY? (which IMO is the same as not voting at all)

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I used to believe that general sentiment to a larger degree before the GOP went rabid with the anti-science, anti-logic, etc.

558 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 10:16:47am

re: #544 klystron

I got the Voyage, upgrading from my Paperwhite (which upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard).

Page turn speed is about the same, so if you didn’t like it on the Paperwhite/were expecting something like the speed on the iPad, still nope. On the other hand, I find it comparable to how long it actually takes to turn the page when reading a physical book, so I’m fine with it.

Never heard of the Voyage. Nice. 6.3 ounces. I like that.

I used the Paperwhite like three times and went back to the iPhone. (sigh)

559 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:17:03am

MARIJUANA! Or as I prefer to call it, CANNABIS!!!

I live in Colorado. Cannabis is definitely an issue discussed on the regular. And I gotta tell ya people don’t mind and things are still going.

560 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:17:16am

Confederate flag in Paris police precinct draws scorn

The embarrassing photograph was posted on the official Twitter account of France’s Interior Ministry on October 23, after Cazeneuve dropped in on officers working in the 14th district of the French capital earlier in the day.

It shows the minister in the foreground, standing in a cramped office and examining the back of a credit card with senior law enforcement agents.

But on close inspection, a Confederate flag can be made out in the background, hanging on the far wall of an adjacent office. Cazeneuve appears to be unaware of its presence.

The sight of a Confederate flag in France is extremely rare as it is widely considered an emblem of slavery and racism. Seeing it hanging inside a public building is all the more shocking to French citizens.

561 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 10:17:50am

re: #548 teleskiguy

#FirstWorldProblems

*snark* *giggle*

I am a gadget freak. I totally resemble that remark! :D

562 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:17:51am

SO MUCH TEH STUPIDS

563 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:18:24am

re: #559 teleskiguy

MARIJUANA! Or as I prefer to call it, CANNABIS!!!

I live in Colorado. Cannabis is definitely an issue discussed on the regular. And I gotta tell ya people don’t mind and things are still going.

Or as some of us like to call it, The Mara-Ja-Juan-a

564 Jenner7  Nov 4, 2014 10:18:27am
565 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:18:32am

Twitter is utterly bugfuck crazy today. If there are major GOP wins it will get worse, much worse.

566 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:19:02am

re: #562 Vicious Piebola

SO MUCH TEH STUPIDS

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This is why I don’t even deal with them. They’re convinced that Obama is personally responsible for every bad thing that goes wrong but refuse to give him any credit for those that go right. They’ve hated him from the start.

567 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:19:52am

re: #562 Vicious Piebola

IT’S ALL HIS FAULT!

568 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:22:26am

re: #564 Jenner7

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It’s actually remarkable about how lily white the GOP Congressional caucus really is. With Cantor losing, they have no more Jews in the House and after Specter switched parties they had no more Jews in the Senate. I don’t think they have any Asians either. I think they have a few Hispanics in the House and of course Cruz/Rubio in the Senate. But other than that. But Mia Love suffers from the same madness that nearly every other GOP ethnic minority candidate I’ve seen over the years, she’s a bigot on other issues. Yes, Mia Love is African-American but she’s also a homophobe and really doesn’t offer any new policies.

569 Ebolangelus  Nov 4, 2014 10:23:29am

re: #383 teleskiguy

Aieee!

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GAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

* whimpers * Is it safe to look again?

/onlykinda

570 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:23:44am

Ain’t it about time for an Open Thread on the Election?

Just sayin’. Happy Election Day! And don’t worry, it’ll work out. As long as fools don’t do anything stupid.

*sigh*

571 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 10:23:49am

re: #565 Vicious Piebola

Do you happen to have a recipe for kishke?

572 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:23:52am

re: #567 teleskiguy

IT’S ALL HIS FAULT!

AND HE’S DOING IT ALL ON PURPOSE TO DESTROY AMURCIA BECAUSE HE HATES THIS COUNTRY!!!!11!!!!!

573 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:24:35am

re: #571 WhatEVs

Do you happen to have a recipe for kishke?

I go to the store and buy a roll of frozen kishke.

574 Timothy Watson  Nov 4, 2014 10:24:40am

re: #564 Jenner7

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Mia Love is the very definition of an “anchor baby”, but IOIYAR.

575 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:25:08am

I think it’s funny how the right pushes minority candidates as “proof” that they’re not racists but yet wants to say the party that nominated America’s first African American president is the same ideology that kept Jim Crow as law for many years. And as I said, the problem with Love is like many other GOP candidates, she’s a bigot in other ways. It’s the same deal as Bobby Jindal who is a total jackass to immigrants despite being the son of immigrants himself and it’s the same deal as Marco Rubio who is a huge anti-gay bigot.

576 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:25:39am
577 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 10:25:52am

Keyboardist from my favorite band cusses!

578 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:27:13am
579 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:29:43am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But racism doesn’t happen in the South. Why would Justice Roberts lie to me?

580 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 4, 2014 10:30:06am

re: #562 Vicious Piebola

“Almost 1/2 of Americans Jobless”

Well, yeah, if you count children and retired people.

581 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:30:15am

Voters In North Carolina Show Up To Find Their Polling Place Closed

CHARLOTTE, NC — Warren Coleman was trying to vote during a break from his job at a bakery in Charlotte, North Carolina. But his usual polling place, a neighborhood library, wasn’t open. Coleman was one of dozens of confused voters who showed up at Beatties Ford Road Regional Library.

The library was a popular site for early voting site last week, but the state board of elections decided to shut it down for Tuesday. Several elderly and disabled voters had shown up there, only to be told that it was not a polling place.

Coleman then tried a nearby elementary school, only to be told that he still wasn’t at the right place. “I was at work. I’m really lacking for time right now,” he said, “I wish it was a lot easier. I wish we… had some direction from the beginning about where to go.” Casting a provisional ballot at an incorrect precinct isn’t an option this year.

582 Jenner7  Nov 4, 2014 10:30:25am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

Disgusting. But good for her for not backing down!

583 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:30:26am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I just looked at my passport and it has two barcodes on it. One is on the actual passport itself and there is a yellow barcode sticker on the back cover.

584 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:31:25am

re: #583 Vicious Piebola

I just looked at my passport and it has two barcodes on it. One is on the actual passport itself and there is a yellow barcode sticker on the back cover.

I just looked at my passport. Barcode inside the backcover. Nowhere else.

585 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:33:03am

re: #584 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just looked at my passport. Barcode inside the backcover. Nowhere else.

Maybe the yellow sticker was placed there to identify me as (1) frequent traveller to the Middle East (2) once visited Russia

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586 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:34:17am

re: #585 Vicious Piebola

Maybe the yellow sticker was placed there to identify me as (1) frequent traveller to the Middle East (2) once visited Russia

OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo

I’ve got a little yellow square sticker on the back. It’s an ICTS security sticker. No barcode on it.

587 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 10:34:25am

re: #584 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just looked at my passport. Barcode inside the backcover. Nowhere else.

Same here. But it does have a barcode.

588 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 10:34:34am

re:
#580

“Almost 1/2 of Americans Jobless”

Goalposts. Moved.

589 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 10:34:49am

Yet another far-right hedge fund manager is losing his marbles:

finance.yahoo.com

He was wrong, and Paul Krugman was right, about how monetary stimulus would affect the US economy, but being a good little wingnut, Singer would rather scream about conspiracy theories than admit an error in his worldview, one that’s increasingly detached from reality as the dollar strengthens and the US appears to be the only developed economy that’s still growing.

590 Ebolangelus  Nov 4, 2014 10:34:50am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Un-freakin-believable! Seriously? A failure to recognize a freakin’ PASSPORT? You know, the highest level of government-issued Identification that the country can issue to a citizen? What the hell is wrong with these people?!

Screw “voter fraud” (yeah right), voter obstruction should put people behind it behind bars…

591 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:40:07am
592 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:41:13am

Janie is fucked up & she has swarms of fucked-up fuckers retweeting her fucked up shit all over Teh Twitters

593 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:43:51am

re: #592 Vicious Piebola

Janie is fucked up & she has swarms of fucked-up fuckers retweeting her fucked up shit all over Teh Twitters

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Man what a fucking moron. Typical conservative idiot.

594 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 10:45:38am

re:
#592

Declining gas prices? Rising stock market? Falling unemployment. What is it they don’t like?

595 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 10:46:00am

re: #591 Kragar

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GOP’s so confident that they’ve got this election in the bag that they’re thrown everything but the kitchen sink at voters to get them good and scared.

596 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 10:46:19am

re: #594 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#592

Declining gas prices? Rising stock market? Falling unemployment. What is it they don’t like?

Successful Democrat in the White House.

597 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:46:43am

re: #596 Targetpractice

Successful BLACK Democrat in the White House.

598 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:47:16am

Jamil tweeting about his dad this morning:

But there’s no voter suppression going on…
*spit*

599 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:47:39am

re: #594 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#592

Declining gas prices? Rising stock market? Falling unemployment. What is it they don’t like?

The guy who lives in the White House’s skin color. But yeah you know what gets me about that stupid tweet is that it says Obama’s objective is to destroy the country. Tell me conservatives if he were intentionally trying to destroy the country, why would unemployment be nearly half what it was when he took office, why would gas prices be fallen, why would he work to get more Americans insured on health care? You may not like his policies but you’re an object moron if you think his objective is the destruction of our country and I’d say that about anyone who believes that about any president.

600 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 10:48:08am

re: #564 Jenner7

We can’t forget Tim Scott in the Senate—of course, Jim DeMint ceding his seat to Timmy certainly didn’t hurt. Talk about a do-nothing legislator. He did nothing when he was my Rep and does even less as a Senator. But he gives the GOP their “narrative,” which is all that matters.

601 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:48:46am

re: #598 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jamil tweeting about his dad this morning:

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But there’s no voter suppression going on…
*spit*

I really would love DOJ to investigate this shit. It has me suspicious as hell that this almost always happens to minority voters.

602 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 4, 2014 10:49:29am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Horrible. Perhaps what she needed was a letter of transit, one that can not be revoked, or even questioned….

603 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 10:50:37am

er:
#598

My dad has lived at the same Cleveland address for 35+ years. Registered, Had his ID. At the correct polling place. Did nothing wrong.

I’m sure Archmoron blogger Chuck C. Johnson will publish this man’s address….

604 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:51:13am
605 Ebolangelus  Nov 4, 2014 10:51:24am

re: #596 Targetpractice

Successful BLACK Democrat in the White House.

Fixed

606 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:51:50am

re: #604 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another bloc the GOP doesn’t want voting. What a surprise.

607 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 10:52:17am

re:
#598

Jamil tweeting about his dad this morning:

Can we talk about the REAL victims here? Conservative Christian Americans with their votes taken away by all the voting fraud!!!!!111

608 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 10:53:35am

re: #584 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just looked at my passport. Barcode inside the backcover. Nowhere else.

Hmmm—I haven’t voted yet—think I’ll use my passport instead of my driver’s license just because. See if it throws them off here in “well-traveled” South Carolina. Will report back later. (I like to vote late afternoon to see how many have voted in my precinct.)

609 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 10:54:04am

re: #595 Targetpractice

GOP’s so confident that they’ve got this election in the bag that they’re thrown everything but the kitchen sink at voters to get them good and scared.

They really do believe that white Christians should run the country. Democratic politics doesn’t extend to others. It’s a soft version of what PW Botha believed.

610 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 10:55:46am

re: #609 Ian G.

They really do believe that white Christians should run the country. Democratic politics doesn’t extend to others. It’s a soft version of what PW Botha believed.

Yes, I’ve come to see this too. You see it especially when they say that they don’t think religious freedom should extend to Muslims and non-believers. They really do think that the Founders created this country only for White Christians to rule.

611 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:55:54am
612 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 10:56:27am

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

613 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:57:31am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

Same deal here in CA

614 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 10:58:18am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

I’ve never had to show any ID(always have been recognized by one of the poll workers as a positive ID) for any Election I’ve participated in. Going back to 98 Mid-terms.

615 simoom  Nov 4, 2014 10:58:19am

Just got back from voting. Short lines, but I did see a decent amount of young people which was surprising to me. There’s always a table with free baked goods on the way out, so I also had a very nice oatmeal raisin cookie.

616 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:58:41am
617 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 10:59:02am

re: #598 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jamil tweeting about his dad this morning:

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But there’s no voter suppression going on…
*spit*

Especially not in Ohio—John Husted is the Model of Modern Major General Republican Secretary of State—in the image of gone but not forgotten Ken Blackwell.

618 klystron  Nov 4, 2014 10:59:26am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

I’ve never actually voted in person at a normal polling station. I voted in person once at a temporary one set up for the primary on campus when I’d first moved out to CA.

I just went permanent vote-by-mail after that. We were essentially filling in the absentee ballot, just after waiting in line and having to scramble to find a surface to do so on.

619 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 10:59:37am
620 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 10:59:46am

re: #615 simoom

Just got back from voting. Short lines, but I did see a decent amount of young people which was surprising to me. There’s always a table with free baked goods on the way out, so I also got to have a very nice oatmeal raisin cookie.

RAISINS!?!?

Youtube Video

621 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 10:59:48am

First time in the past five elections I’ve voted in where the lady at the poll made a point to ask me my middle name. Every previous year, it was hand over my driver’s license, then recite my home address. This year, she asked my name and address, then made a point to say I needed to tell her my full name.

I don’t think she meant anything by it, but it just felt weird after years of voting.

622 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:00:33am

re: #621 Targetpractice

First time in the past five elections I’ve voted in where the lady at the poll made a point to ask me my middle name. Every previous year, it was hand over my driver’s license, then recite my home address. This year, she asked my name and address, then made a point to say I needed to tell her my full name.

I don’t think she meant anything by it, but it just felt weird after years of voting.

Same and first time not using the computer either.

623 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 11:00:46am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh. I don’t think I’ve used the same ID twice in the last decade. I’ve used my US Passport, Passport Card, Driver’s License, voter registration card, and no ID at all.

Then again, I’m also the endangered privileged white male.
/

624 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 11:00:53am

re: #610 HappyWarrior

Yes, I’ve come to see this too. You see it especially when they say that they don’t think religious freedom should extend to Muslims and non-believers. They really do think that the Founders created this country only for White Christians to rule.

And God bless Thomas Jefferson for his writing that explicitly repudiate this stuff. He said that (theoretically, at that time) religious freedom would extend to Muslims, Hindus, and “infidels”. And, of course, his magnificent “barbarous ancestors” writing, in which he anticipated the need to change the structures of government as times as societies evolved. He could see how people in the 21st century would recoil in horror at some of the norms of the 18th (like owning other human beings).

625 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 11:01:38am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

Probably because you don’t have ZOMBIE VOTERS like we do in South Carolina.
//

626 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:02:30am

re: #573 Vicious Piebola

I go to the store and buy a roll of frozen kishke.

I am not from the Detroit area (I am from Chicago) but live here now. Where might I go? Do they have good kreplach, too? I just brought back a ton of stuff from The Bagel when I went home last week. Hate to bother you but, for the most part, I am completely unfamiliar with this area.

627 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:02:53am

re: #622 HappyWarrior

Same and first time not using the computer either.

See, that was another thing, this was the first election where I saw all computers at the polls. My first election, which was ‘04, the rolls were still in these “War and Peace”-sized books. Next two elections, same deal. Then ‘10, they had laptops there alongside the book, same deal with ‘12. This year, it was just a line of laptops.

628 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:02:54am

re: #624 Ian G.

And God bless Thomas Jefferson for his writing that explicitly repudiate this stuff. He said that (theoretically, at that time) religious freedom would extend to Muslims, Hindus, and “infidels”. And, of course, his magnificent “barbarous ancestors” writing, in which he anticipated the need to change the structures of government as times as societies evolved. He could see how people in the 21st century would recoil in horror at some of the norms of the 18th (like owning other human beings).

Yep. Anyhow what you get is why I think Scalia’s whole judicial philosophy is a sham. It to me is a lame attempt to say “I’m doing what the Founders would have wanted” when it’s actually him being an inflexible bigot.

629 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:03:25am

re: #626 WhatEVs

I am not from the Detroit area (I am from Chicago) but live here now. Where might I go? Do they have good kreplach, too? I just brought back a ton of stuff from The Bagel when I went home last week. Hate to bother you but, for the most part, I am completely unfamiliar with this area.

Are you in Detroit or Chicago?

630 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:03:39am

re: #625 BeachDem

Probably because you don’t have ZOMBIE VOTERS like we do in South Carolina.
//

We’re all zombies here in the backwoods…

631 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 11:06:10am

re: #627 Targetpractice

See, that was another thing, this was the first election where I saw all computers at the polls. My first election, which was ‘04, the rolls were still in these “War and Peace”-sized books. Next two elections, same deal. Then ‘10, they had laptops there alongside the book, same deal with ‘12. This year, it was just a line of laptops.

A few years ago, when it was time to sign the voter log, I whipped out a pen and signed. The poll worker SCREAMED at me that I was supposed to sign in pencil. I asked why. She had no explanation, nor could I find anything about it in the state election laws. Since then, I always have a pen in hand, but nobody’s brought it up again. Weird.

632 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:06:59am
Early Tuesday, at the Hollow Creek/Green Acres precinct off Russell Cave Road, voter David Jackson said that none of the three machines were working properly around 7:45 a.m.

“People couldn’t vote at all,” Jackson said. “Voters were getting upset. A bunch of people walked out.”

Jackson plans to walk back over and vote this afternoon, he said.

The machines apparently hadn’t been connected property and the machines were working as of 9:15 a.m., according to Fayette County Clerk Don Blevins’ office.

Otherwise, Blevins said, “We had a normal start to the day. All the polls are open, on time. The usual handful of machines were problematic, a few election officers overslept.”

Read more here: kentucky.com

Yeah, this shit happens every time in Kentucky.

633 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:07:36am

re: #631 BeachDem

A few years ago, when it was time to sign the voter log, I whipped out a pen and signed. The poll worker SCREAMED at me that I was supposed to sign in pencil. I asked why. She had not explanation, nor could I find anything about it in the state election laws. Since then, I always have a pen in hand, but nobody’s brought it up again. Weird.

This is the first election that they did not have those green-and-white striped printouts with everybody’s name and address which they crossed out for each voter.

634 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:07:59am
635 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:08:04am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

Same in IL. No ID is needed, just my name and address.

636 Timothy Watson  Nov 4, 2014 11:08:12am

re: #631 BeachDem

A few years ago, when it was time to sign the voter log, I whipped out a pen and signed. The poll worker SCREAMED at me that I was supposed to sign in pencil. I asked why. She had not explanation, nor could I find anything about it in the state election laws. Since then, I always have a pen in hand, but nobody’s brought it up again. Weird.

I was under the impression, legally, that a signature in pencil wasn’t worth the graphite used to write it.

637 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:09:29am

re: #632 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, this shit happens every time in Kentucky.

This is where my Mom and Grandmother live.

100% African American precinct.

Not saying that is why the problems occurred, but when problems like this happen in poor and minority neighborhoods, it can have such an affect on voter participation, because people have to go to work and voting sometimes must fit in a tight window of time.

638 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:09:39am

re: #629 Vicious Piebola

Are you in Detroit or Chicago?

I am from Chicago. I married a Canadian and live in Canada now…just outside of Detroit (well, about 45 minutes away).

639 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:09:56am

re: #627 Targetpractice

See, that was another thing, this was the first election where I saw all computers at the polls. My first election, which was ‘04, the rolls were still in these “War and Peace”-sized books. Next two elections, same deal. Then ‘10, they had laptops there alongside the book, same deal with ‘12. This year, it was just a line of laptops.

Weird I don’t remember the rolls. My first election was 05. It wasn’t so bad but it did feel weird having to recite my whole name.

640 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:10:00am

re: #638 WhatEVs

I am from Chicago. I married a Canadian and live in Canada now…just outside of Detroit (well, about 45 minutes away).

Windsor?

641 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:10:33am

re: #636 Timothy Watson

I was under the impression, legally, that a signature in pencil wasn’t worth the graphite used to write it.

I was pretty sure that was something even kids were being taught, that if you sign in anything but pen, it won’t be accepted.

642 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:10:47am

re: #637 nearly-headless smith25

This is where my Mom and Grandmother live.

100% African American precinct.

Not saying that is why the problems occurred, but when problems like this happen in poor and minority neighborhoods, it can have such an affect on voter participation, because people have to go to work and voting sometimes must fit in a tight window of time.

It’s a shame really. Voting should be quick and easy and not to be made like you’re doing something wrong by wanting to vote.

643 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:10:47am

re: #640 Vicious Piebola

No, north…near the Bluewater Bridge.

644 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 11:11:21am

Off to vote! BBIAB

645 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 11:11:23am

re: #636 Timothy Watson

I was under the impression, legally, that a signature in pencil wasn’t worth the graphite used to write it.

That’s what I always thought. Plus, pencil signatures could be erased, easy peasy. All I know is the woman’s eyes nearly popped out of her head when I signed in ink, which made me determined to do the same every time since. (Like they really have to worry about a few stray Democratic votes here in blood-red South Carolina.)

646 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 4, 2014 11:11:47am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

Same here in MA except we don’t even have to sign. They just draw a line through our names in the voter book as we go through.

647 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2014 11:12:03am

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

648 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:12:08am

re: #643 WhatEVs

No, north…near the Bluewater Bridge.

Oh, Sarnia.

I always take the Bluewater when I’m on the way to Toronto, but take the Windsor Tunnel on the way back. Anything to avoid the Troll’s Bridge.

649 Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2014 11:12:53am

re: #647 Eclectic Cyborg

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

Permanent absentee ballot, like in Washington state. All mail-in elections.

650 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:13:14am

re: #647 Eclectic Cyborg

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

I’d go a step further. Make Election Day a national holiday.

651 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 4, 2014 11:13:18am

re: #647 Eclectic Cyborg

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

Election day should be a national holiday.

ETA: four measly seconds.

652 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:13:45am

re: #649 Dr Lizardo

Permanent absentee ballot, like in Washington state. All mail-in elections.

I’d support something like this too. Make it easier for more people to vote.

653 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:14:01am

re: #651 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Election day should be a national holiday.

I beat ya by four seconds! But what was it said about great minds?

654 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:14:02am

re: #651 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Election day should be a national holiday.

Employers would still make people show up for work. See also “Black Thursday.”

655 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:14:20am

re: #647 Eclectic Cyborg

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

There are many states that have that law, but employees are not always required to compensate employees for time missed. Missing that income could become more important than voting. Add in those that lack access to immediate transportation, and this is just one more obstacle to too many Americans.

656 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 4, 2014 11:14:41am

re: #653 HappyWarrior

I beat ya by four seconds!

Yeah, but I made my edit acknowledging that before you posted this gloat.

657 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:15:04am

re: #648 Vicious Piebola

I’ve found good Thai, and good Indian, but I can’t find any good kosher place. And I miss my kreplach big time. I got some kishke last week, too…forgot how much I loved it. And hubby went nuts over the chopped liver (and the raspberry rugelah). The only thing missing was good challah, which I didn’t think to get. I spent over $100 at The Bagel. :-)

This town is nice but the restaurants are like a vacuum…they suck and blow.

658 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:15:24am

re: #655 nearly-headless smith25

There are many states that have that law, but employees are not always required to compensate employees for time missed. Missing that income could become more important than voting. Add in those that lack access to immediate transportation, and this is just one more obstacle to too many Americans.

Yeah, we hear people bitch all the time about the low voter turnouts, but we also expect everything to be open on Election Day.

659 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:15:48am

re:
#627

Yeah I remember those War&Peace sized voter rolls.

660 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 11:15:56am

re: #651 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Election day should be a national holiday.

OK, and what would the RWNJ want to name this great new holiday?
/

661 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:16:16am

re: #650 HappyWarrior

I’d go a step further. Make Election Day a national holiday.

Never happen. Too many people are invested in making sure people don’t vote. And, never do anything to the jrrb creatins, because closing business for a day would kill them forevah!

662 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:16:37am

re:
#659

Don’t think I’ve seen them for many years. Probably not since I lived in NJ.

663 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:16:37am

re: #660 Feline Fearless Leader

OK, and what would the RWNJ want to name this great new holiday?
/

Ronnie Reagan Day in honor of the president with the biggest electoral win of course.//

664 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:16:43am

re: #657 WhatEVs

I’ve found good Thai, and good Indian, but I can’t find any good kosher place. And I miss my kreplach big time. I got some kishke last week, too…forgot how much I loved it. And hubby went nuts over the chopped liver (and the raspberry rugelah). The only thing missing was good challah, which I didn’t think to get. I spent over $100 at The Bagel. :-)

This town is nice but the restaurants are like a vacuum…they suck and blow.

One Stop Market is at 10 Mile & Greenfield off I-696, it’s about an hour’s drive from Sarnia (not counting the time spent waiting to get across the border)

665 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 11:17:07am

re: #647 Eclectic Cyborg

It should be law that employers MUST give employees time off to vote.

CA state laws state if you are scheduled to work while the polls are open, your employer is required by law to provide you with 2 hours off, with pay, so you can go and vote. This only applies if you are scheduled to work the entire time the polls are open.

666 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:17:42am

re: #661 WhatEVs

Never happen. Too many people are invested in making sure people don’t vote. And, never do anything to the jrrb creatins, because closing business for a day would kill them forevah!

I know. But this is my hypothetical I’m the dictator world. Same world has a ban on Christmas music until the day after Thanksgiving and a good Thai restaurant for every town.

667 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:17:55am

re: #664 Vicious Piebola

One Stop Market is at 10 Mile & Greenfield off I-696, it’s about an hour’s drive from Sarnia (not counting the time spent waiting to get across the border)

Ah, bless you!!

668 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 11:18:05am
669 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:18:54am

re: #667 WhatEVs

Ah, bless you!!

Or you could drive to Toronto, that’s 3 hours each way. :)

670 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 11:19:22am

re: #619 Vicious Piebola

I de-friended someone on Facebook for mocking people for not having photo IDs and wanting to vote. I’d been considering it for a while, given that, a) I’m not actually his friend (a former co-worker), and b) all he does is post sarcastic stuff that makes it apparent that he thinks he’s waaaaay more clever than he actually is.

671 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:19:44am

re: #666 HappyWarrior

I know. But this is my hypothetical I’m the dictator world. Same world has a ban on Christmas music until the day after Thanksgiving and a good Thai restaurant for every town.

I teach at a Catholic school, and we start every class with a prayer. My prayer at the start of every class today:

“Dear Lord,

Help us to live in a country where 100% of adults can vote. Amen.”

673 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:20:35am

re: #671 nearly-headless smith25

I teach at a Catholic school, and we start every class with a prayer. My prayer at the start of every class today:

“Dear Lord,

Help us to live in a country where 100% of adults can vote. Amen.”

Not all adults are citizens.

674 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 11:20:43am

re: #660 Feline Fearless Leader

OK, and what would the RWNJ want to name this great new holiday?
/

BARACK OBAMA ADORATION DAY SINCE HE IS GOING TO MAKE HIMSELF PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!

675 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:21:24am

WTFITS

676 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:22:08am

Don’t let people vote and then vote-shame them What. The. Everloving. Fuckery.

677 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:22:41am

re:
#672

But buy my book anyway please!!!!!!

678 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:22:48am

re: #675 Vicious Piebola

WTFITS

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If my neighbors are going to be prick pretzels to me because of who I voted for then frankly I don’t want them as my neighbors so thanks Iowa GOP, you’re encouraging people to be dicks even more than you already do.

679 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:23:02am

re: #675 Vicious Piebola

WTFITS

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Guess it’s like that robocall I got from Mitch a couple of hours ago telling me he needed 17 more votes in my precinct.

Now, Mitch, how would you know that?

680 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:23:17am

re: #673 Vicious Piebola

Not all adults are citizens.

Whoops, that’s what I get for typing too fast while trying to get grades done.

(Report cards are due at 3:00)

681 SpaceJesus  Nov 4, 2014 11:23:20am

vote?

682 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:24:09am

re: #672 Varek Raith

Sharyl Attkisson’s Reversal: Technology Problems “May In The End Have Nothing To Do With” Hacking
FULL REVERSE!

Whiplash!

Or that evil Obama threatened her and she is fearful of going the way of Brietbart. Coz if nothing else, they have fear down to an art form.

683 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:24:10am

re: #680 nearly-headless smith25

Whoops, that’s what I get for typing too fast while trying to get grades done.

(Report cards are due at 3:00)

Right. I get your broad point here though. We need to make voting easier not more difficult. That’s something the right doesn’t want unfortunately.

684 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 11:24:20am

re: #678 HappyWarrior

If my neighbors are going to be prick pretzels to me because of who I voted for then frankly I don’t want them as my neighbors so thanks Iowa GOP, you’re encouraging people to be dicks even more than you already do.

Since when did Republicans need a reason to act like dicks?

685 bill d  Nov 4, 2014 11:24:51am

...

686 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 11:24:58am

re: #668 Kragar

Jim has a definite way with words!

687 WhatEVs  Nov 4, 2014 11:25:07am

Crap…meeting. Cheers all!

688 freetoken  Nov 4, 2014 11:25:35am

re: #658 Targetpractice

Yeah, we hear people bitch all the time about the low voter turnouts, but we also expect everything to be open on Election Day.

People who have long commutes to work will need more time to vote, something which even the California law may overlook.

689 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:25:39am

Election Day has always felt like a holiday around here though in a way since the first grading quarter usually ends. It’s a funny symmetry. I took civics the year of the 2000 election, my middle brother the year of Bush’s re-election, and now our youngest brother is taking it now.

690 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:25:56am

re: #684 Kragar

Since when did Republicans need a reason to act like dicks?

Touche my good man, touche.

691 Floral Giraffe  Nov 4, 2014 11:26:17am

re: #671 nearly-headless smith25

I teach at a Catholic school, and we start every class with a prayer. My prayer at the start of every class today:

“Dear Lord,

Help us to live in a country where 100% of adults cangive a shit enough to vote. Amen.”

FTFY…

692 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 11:26:46am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

So weird here in my part of Kentucky.
The only requirement is that we say our name out loud to the poll worker with the voter book. Sign the book, then go vote.
No ID needed. (Had my passport in my back pocket, just in case, though.)

I voted by mail two weeks ago.

693 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:28:11am
694 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:29:18am

re: #693 Vicious Piebola

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Again Justice Roberts, you were saying? But seriously I’m getting tired of this crap. It’s a form of voter intimidation is what this shit is.You don’t want to vote, fine. But don’t harass people who do.

695 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:30:53am

re: #692 teleskiguy

I voted by mail two weeks ago.

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

696 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:32:19am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

That’s pretty lame. But as I said, I want and think we need to make voting easier not more difficult. These steps to make voting more difficult I think are a return to the days where suffrage was limited to only landowning white males.

697 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 11:34:39am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

It’s mostly done by mail in Colorado now. In my county of 52,000 residents, the clerk and recorder sent out about 40,000 ballots by mail. About 1.3 million ballots have been cast in Colorado this way since yesterday.

698 sagehen  Nov 4, 2014 11:35:03am

re: #688 freetoken

People who have long commutes to work will need more time to vote, something which even the California law may overlook.

I voted about noon, they told me they’d had more than 120 people already.

Instead of voting a straight Dem ticket, I looked for the Dem candidates’ names on lines for other parties (“Working Families Party” and “Women’s Equality Party” had all the same nominees as the Dems); for judges, all the nominees were Dems and I knew nothing about any of them, so I voted for the names that sounded female.

Also 3 ballot measures, all of which I voted yes (bipartisan redistricting commission after the next census, a bond measure to upgrade all the schools’ internet connections and expand computer labs, and now I don’t even remember what the third one was but it sounded good when I read it.)

699 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:35:05am
700 allegro  Nov 4, 2014 11:35:58am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

In Texas, we have to be out of the county during the entire early voting period, 2 weeks, as well as election day. I love in-person early voting. Easy and quick with no lines and I feel more secure that my worthless vote will be counted than if it was mailed.

701 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:37:14am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

That’s a fucked up and irrational requirement. Permanent absentee should be available everywhere.

702 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:37:36am

re: #699 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This shit really needs to end. Frankly voter intimidation has always been a bigger problem in this country than voter fraud ever was.

703 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 11:37:53am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t have anything like that here in Kentucky. Just absentee voting and you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you will not be in the county on election day.

We don’t have actual early voting either—just absentee. But, in addition to saying you’ll be out of county on election day, they let “olds” vote absentee without any restrictions.

704 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:38:56am

It’s none of the State’s goddamned business why you want to be issued an absentee ballot. Simple convenience is reason enough.

705 freetoken  Nov 4, 2014 11:39:08am

re: #698 sagehen

At least for me, the political offices are pretty well set by expertly drawn district lines, which makes them quite stable, as far as remaining in one camp or another. Only the statewide races (governor, etc.) are contested.

706 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:39:11am

Really annoys me that they make you swear you will be out of the county on election day. The whole right wing crap of making it difficult as possible to vote in a way the voter would like to is really nerve grating but then again we’re dealing with an ideology that knows that higher turnouts are bad for them.

707 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:39:19am

re: #703 BeachDem

We don’t have actual early voting either—just absentee. But, in addition to saying you’ll be out of county on election day, they let “olds” vote absentee without any restrictions.

Yes, I think Kentucky may have the same provision for the olds and disabled for absentee voting.

708 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:39:39am

re: #704 goddamnedfrank

It’s none of the State’s goddamned business why you want to be issued an absentee ballot. Simple convenience is reason enough.

Yes, exactly this.

709 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:40:05am

re: #703 BeachDem

We don’t have actual early voting either—just absentee. But, in addition to saying you’ll be out of county on election day, they let “olds” vote absentee without any restrictions.

Which is a blatant 14th Amendment violation.

710 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:40:36am

Heavy minority districts in Lexington.

Hearing many reports nationwide of much higher than normal participation in minority (particularly African American) precincts. Saw one report that turnout appeared more like a Presidential Election year.

711 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:40:57am

I only know about the affidavit for being out of the county on election day because MrBWS is never here on election day and he has to sign it every time when he does in-person absentee voting at the courthouse.

712 walkingdeadhead  Nov 4, 2014 11:41:32am

mobile.nytimes.com

You know its going bad for Democrats when the New York Times is advocating ending midterm elections! Reason: There’s too many old white people voting in midterms, and young minority voters just aren’t interested in turning out for the midterms. So when things don’t go the Democrats way, lets just rewrite the Constitution to favor the Democrats…problem fixed!

713 ipsos  Nov 4, 2014 11:41:44am

re: #698 sagehen

Also 3 ballot measures, all of which I voted yes (bipartisan redistricting commission after the next census, a bond measure to upgrade all the schools’ internet connections and expand computer labs, and now I don’t even remember what the third one was but it sounded good when I read it.)

The third one (actually question #2) lets the state legislature review bills electronically instead of killing trees to print drafts of bills. It’s a good measure and I voted yes.

Question #3, the school technology one, is awful. It throws a bunch of money at school districts that never asked for it and don’t know what to do with it, and it saddles them with ongoing maintenance and support costs that aren’t funded. I voted very strongly no on that puppy.

Question #1 was the tough call. We desperately need redistricting reform in NY State, but this bill isn’t a very good stab at the problem. It leaves too much power in the hands of the legislature. I still voted yes, but reluctantly.

Oh, and the “Women’s Equality Party” is a line created by Andrew Cuomo as a veiled F-U to the real progressive party in the state, Working Families, after WFP extracted some weak concessions from him in exchange for their cross-endorsement. I hope “Women’s Equality” doesn’t drag too many votes off the WFP line this year. (In New York, the governor’s race determines ballot line placement for the next four years. 50,000 votes on a party line in the race guarantees that party a ballot spot. The more votes a party gets, the higher up it appears on the ballot. I voted very grudgingly for Cuomo, because Astorino is so awful, but I did it on the WFP line so they’ll get the vote.)

714 klystron  Nov 4, 2014 11:42:44am

Yawn.

715 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:43:03am
716 Ian G.  Nov 4, 2014 11:44:37am

re: #698 sagehen

I voted a straight Working Families Party line when given the chance (to express my displeasure with Cuomo, even if he’s orders of magnitude better than a loon like Astorino). I voted “no” on ballot #1, “yes” on the other two.

717 freetoken  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:06am

re: #715 goddamnedfrank

If one wants high-carb troll meals.

718 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:08am

re: #713 ipsos

The third one (actually question #2) lets the state legislature review bills electronically instead of killing trees to print drafts of bills. It’s a good measure and I voted yes.

Question #3, the school technology one, is awful. It throws a bunch of money at school districts that never asked for it and don’t know what to do with it, and it saddles them with ongoing maintenance and support costs that aren’t funded. I voted very strongly no on that puppy.

Question #1 was the tough call. We desperately need redistricting reform in NY State, but this bill isn’t a very good stab at the problem. It leaves too much power in the hands of the legislature. I still voted yes, but reluctantly.

Oh, and the “Women’s Equality Party” is a line created by Andrew Cuomo as a veiled F-U to the real progressive party in the state, Working Families, after WFP extracted some weak concessions from him in exchange for their cross-endorsement. I hope “Women’s Equality” doesn’t drag too many votes off the WFP line this year. (In New York, the governor’s race determines ballot line placement for the next four years. 50,000 votes on a party line in the race guarantees that party a ballot spot. The more votes a party gets, the higher up it appears on the ballot. I voted very grudgingly for Cuomo, because Astorino is so awful, but I did it on the WFP line so they’ll get the vote.)

Cuomo’s father was more progressive wasn’t he? Don’t know too much about him.

719 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:09am

heh…

720 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:13am

re: #712 walkingdeadhead

721 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:19am

re: #712 walkingdeadhead

Good idea.

722 dog philosopher  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:42am

Get Your Veto Pens Early While The Supply Lasts!

yes! vetoes will soon be in season and who knows when the veto storm will let up!

723 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:45:44am

Seriously, there is absolutely no argument for not expanding absentee voting everywhere to any eligible voter who wants it, that isn’t rooted in intentionally making access to the polls more difficult.

724 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:46:05am

re:
#715

Always been my favorite brand of trollburger helper. There are others, sometimes better priced. But not the same quality.

725 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:47:23am

re:
#719

The first rule of Obamaphones is to not talk about Obamaphones.

/

726 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:47:28am

re: #721 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Good idea.

It’s actually not that bad of an idea when I think about it. Now I do like the idea of Reps being accountable every election but at the same time, it seems to me that much of the time in a Congressman’s term is first spent getting elected or re-elected and than grandstanding to do so. If you make House elections every four years instead of two, you may actually force Congresscritters to do something and I think it would decrease the absurdly high amount of House members that get re-elected. So yeah it’s something that I could potentially get on board with.

727 klystron  Nov 4, 2014 11:47:35am

re: #722 dog philosopher

Get Your Veto Pens Early While The Supply Lasts!

yes! vetoes will soon be in season and who knows when the veto storm will let up!

I look forward to the impeachment for obstruction of government that the House will surely bring against Obama following his use of the veto.

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728 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:47:49am

No thanks on the troll. I’m a part time vegetarian.

729 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 11:47:52am
730 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:48:00am

Letting old people vote absentee without restriction but making everyone else jump through hoops pretty much gives the game away. It’s about gaming elections.

731 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:48:24am

re:
#727

First, executive orders. And now vetoes????!?!

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732 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:48:33am

re: #729 Kragar

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Drugs are bad mmmkay, Mr. Wiles.

733 klystron  Nov 4, 2014 11:48:51am

re: #730 goddamnedfrank

Letting old people vote absentee without restriction but making everyone else jump through hoops pretty much gives the game away. It’s about gaming elections.

What do you mean, old people are more consistent at voting? There couldn’t possibly be any structural reasons why that’s the case…

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734 Vicious Piebola  Nov 4, 2014 11:48:54am

We used to get a much better class of troll in here.

We should adopt a policy of Troll ID.

735 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2014 11:49:18am

I said it before, but really…we deserve a much higher class troll than this weak tea version.

736 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:49:30am

re:
#7329

Wiles: Government Might ‘Splice’ Viruses To Create Army Of Zombie Cannibals

I’ll admit I hadn’t considered this.

737 Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2014 11:49:46am

re: #729 Kragar

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Sounds like someone needs to stop smoking so much crack and lay off the George Romero flicks for awhile.

738 Kragar  Nov 4, 2014 11:50:37am

re: #736 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#7329

I’ll admit I hadn’t considered this.

It would be irresponsible not to consider it.

739 ipsos  Nov 4, 2014 11:50:42am

re: #718 HappyWarrior

Cuomo’s father was more progressive wasn’t he? Don’t know too much about him.

Mario was considerably more progressive than Andrew. Andrew has all of Mario’s political instincts and skills and none of Mario’s humility or humanity.

Andrew has done some good things, even some daring ones (stricter gun control than almost anywhere else in the country, same-sex marriage), but then he’ll turn around and hand control of the state Senate to the Republicans just so there’s no challenge to his own political power.

I do not like or trust the man, but I’d still take him over the Republican challenging him any day.

740 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:51:14am

re: #737 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like someone needs to stop smoking so much crack and lay off the George Romero flicks for awhile.

I was going to say put down the controller because I can’t remember the last truly great Resident Evil game but Romero works too. I swear Obama as they see him is some kind of bizarre super-villain that would make SPECTRE say take a step back dude or if it’s another day of the week an incompetent who couldn’t tie his shoes.

741 Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2014 11:51:22am

re: #712 walkingdeadhead

mobile.nytimes.com

You know its going bad for Democrats when the New York Times is advocating ending midterm elections! Reason: There’s too many old white people voting in midterms, and young minority voters just aren’t interested in turning out for the midterms. So when things don’t go the Democrats way, lets just rewrite the Constitution to favor the Democrats…problem fixed!

So tell us, when did you realize your life sucks so bad you had to ramp up your asshole-ness to make it worth living? Was it a sudden decision that you really didn’t think about much or one you mulled over a bit?

742 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:51:34am

re: #729 Kragar

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Why does the government need to do that? Just contract the work out to Umbrella.

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743 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:52:26am

re: #739 ipsos

Mario was considerably more progressive than Andrew. Andrew has all of Mario’s political instincts and skills and none of Mario’s humility or humanity.

Andrew has done some good things, even some daring ones (stricter gun control than almost anywhere else in the country, same-sex marriage), but then he’ll turn around and hand control of the state Senate to the Republicans just so there’s no challenge to his own political power.

I do not like or trust the man, but I’d still take him over the Republican challenging him any day.

Right, I hear you there. Just must be disappointing to see someone with a father like that to what he is. But yeah I’ve heard about his GOP opponent. Yikes.

744 goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2014 11:53:46am

re: #728 HappyWarrior

No thanks on the troll. I’m a part time vegetarian.

Hasn’t got as much troll in it as troll egg sausage and troll, has it?

745 Jordy LuhPhorj  Nov 4, 2014 11:53:59am

I think we are too quick to label people like walkingdeadhead as trolls. The scary truth is these people actually believe the things they are saying.

746 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 4, 2014 11:54:04am

Russian ISIS. Neofascist bandit Alexey Mozgovoy from LNR: if he sees any girl in a cafe or a club, she will be arrested; women’s place is at home, as mothers and housewives. After he points out that all the night clubs are full of women, and asks: “so, our female population are all prostitutes or what?”, his buddy adds: “they should all be raped”.

Youtube Video

747 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 11:54:23am

I realize I’ve had quite a bit of caffeine already today but for whatever reason I am still nearly falling asleep.

So, I’m afraid I will still require more caffeine before closing time. Whatever it takes to get through the day and home to mah kittehs.

748 sagehen  Nov 4, 2014 11:54:36am

re: #715 goddamnedfrank

Now with more fiber!

needs more garlic.

749 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:54:50am

re: #744 goddamnedfrank

Hasn’t got as much troll in it as troll egg sausage and troll, has it?

Nah but I prefer Trollfu sometimes. Troll egg sausage is terrible for one’s cholesterol.

750 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 4, 2014 11:55:35am
751 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 11:57:12am

Can’t get rid of the midterm elections - look at all the economic stimulation it does via ad buys, production of lawn signs, and increased media frenzy!
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752 Targetpractice  Nov 4, 2014 11:57:22am

re: #750 nearly-headless smith25

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Because Republicans want a republic, not a democracy. It’s hard as hell to rule the people when you actually allow the people a voice.

753 sagehen  Nov 4, 2014 11:57:33am

re: #718 HappyWarrior

Cuomo’s father was more progressive wasn’t he? Don’t know too much about him.

Cuomo thinks supporting gay marriage will blind people to the fact that he’s not liberal at all in any other way. He’s barely even a DINO (cut a deal for R’s to retain control of the legislature, odd thing for a supposed D to do.)

754 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:57:53am

The other good thing about getting rid of midterm elections is it would mean we would get saturated with less ads and unwanted phone calls.

755 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 11:59:01am

re: #753 sagehen

Cuomo thinks supporting gay marriage will blind people to the fact that he’s not liberal at all in any other way. He’s barely even a DINO (cut a deal for R’s to retain control of the legislature, odd thing for a supposed D to do.)

Shame really. I one time thought the guy seemed (from an outsider’s pov) like a possible future Dem standard bearer. Really hope the Dems got some good young ones in their stable.

756 teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2014 11:59:08am

“I think there should be a certain amount of discretions for both states and territories and the District,” Rand Paul said when asked about the legalization measure on D.C.’s ballot by BuzzFeed News after he voted in Bowling Green, Kentucky, on Tuesday.

“I think really when we set up our country, we intended that most crime or not crime, things we determine to be crime or not crimes is really to be determined by localities,” Paul said.

Huh?What. The. Fuck?!?

757 freetoken  Nov 4, 2014 12:00:38pm

The Lord High Denier’s friend:

Inhofe blasts ‘extreme’ climate report

758 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 12:00:57pm

re: #756 teleskiguy

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Huh?What. The. Fuck?!?

It’s the old 10th amendment bs and unfortunately it’s why some liberals buy that he’s on their side about drugs. Rand Paul has a problem with federal anti-drug laws but his hypothetical DoJ and Attorney General would not fight if a state or locality say wanted to make drug possession a crime punishable by life in prison or frankly even death.

759 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 12:01:30pm

re: #753 sagehen

Cuomo thinks supporting gay marriage will blind people to the fact that he’s not liberal at all in any other way. He’s barely even a DINO (cut a deal for R’s to retain control of the legislature, odd thing for a supposed D to do.)

Wasn’t that move something that helped maximize Cuomo’s power though?

760 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 12:01:32pm

re: #757 freetoken

The Lord High Denier’s friend:

Inhofe blasts ‘extreme’ climate report

There’s another old coot that I would just wish leave but then again knowing Oklahoma, I’m sure there’s someone younger and even nuttier eager to take his seat.

761 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 4, 2014 12:02:11pm

re:
#712

You know its going bad for Democrats when the New York Times is advocating ending midterm elections!

I’m sure you’ll all be shocked to learn that this isn’t actually the NYT advocating the end of mid-terms, but rather an op-ed piece by a Duke University professor and a student.

And unlike some papers, cough The Washington Moonie Times cough, the NYT runs op-eds from a variety of viewpoints. They even carry David effing Brooks.

But conservatives have not shown a reluctance to amend the Constitution to get the policy results they have failed to achieve by other means. So not sure why someone making this electoral argument is somehow beyond the pale.

762 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2014 12:02:53pm

re: #758 HappyWarrior

It’s the old 10th amendment bs and unfortunately it’s why some liberals buy that he’s on their side about drugs. Rand Paul has a problem with federal anti-drug laws but his hypothetical DoJ and Attorney General would not fight if a state or locality say wanted to make drug possession a crime punishable by life in prison or frankly even death.

And we need more areas where there can be fifty different sets of statutes for the fifty states.
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763 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 12:05:19pm

re: #762 Feline Fearless Leader

And we need more areas where there can be fifty different sets of statutes for the fifty states.
/

And somehow in the minds of deluded Paul fans that’s freedom.

764 sagehen  Nov 4, 2014 12:05:34pm

re: #759 Feline Fearless Leader

Wasn’t that move something that helped maximize Cuomo’s power though?

In the short term. It got him R votes for whatever it was he was trading for, and means he keeps his fingerprints off some R measures that he wanted to pass but didn’t want to be seen as supporting.

765 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 4, 2014 12:06:30pm

re: #761 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#712

You know its going bad for Democrats when the New York Times is advocating ending midterm elections!

But conservatives have not shown a reluctance to amend the Constitution to get the policy results they have failed to achieve by other means. So not sure why someone making this electoral argument is somehow beyond the pale.

They are going to come up with a net gain of House, Senate and gubernatorial seats and they wanna rub it in.

766 Ebolangelus  Nov 4, 2014 12:07:13pm

re: #756 teleskiguy

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Huh?What. The. Fuck?!?

767 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 4, 2014 12:10:39pm

re: #756 teleskiguy

“I think really when we set up our country, we intended that most crime or not crime, things we determine to be crime or not crimes is really to be determined by localities,” Paul said.

Now who can argue with that? I think we’re all indebted to Rand Paul for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particulary glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic Palin gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.

768 EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2014 12:10:55pm

re: #720 William Barnett-Lewis

HP Lovecraft is describing the GOP as it stood prior to the southern strategy.

Adding a large dose of racist crap to the party has not improved it.

769 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 12:12:07pm

re: #768 EPR-radar

HP Lovecraft is describing the GOP as it stood prior to the southern strategy.

Adding a large dose of racist crap to the party has not improved it.

What’s really sad about the GOP is its best moments as a party came before any of us were born.

770 BeachDem  Nov 4, 2014 12:36:33pm

re: #758 HappyWarrior

It’s the old 10th amendment bs and unfortunately it’s why some liberals buy that he’s on their side about drugs. Rand Paul has a problem with federal anti-drug laws but his hypothetical DoJ and Attorney General would not fight if a state or locality say wanted to make drug possession a crime punishable by life in prison or frankly even death.

It’s also the old 5-minute rule relating to all Pauls

esquire.com

To recap: the Five Minute Rule states that any member of the Paul family will make sense on any political issue for exactly five minutes. Precisely at the 5:00:01 mark, however, he will say something so far off the rails that you will find yourself looking at him as though he has sprouted a reptilian head out of his sternum.

771 makeitstop  Nov 4, 2014 12:37:22pm

re: #675 Vicious Piebola

WTFITS

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I’m surprised they didn’t show the non-GOP voter’s house on fire.
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772 HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2014 12:39:12pm

re: #770 BeachDem

It’s also the old 5-minute rule relating to all Pauls.

To recap: the Five Minute Rule states that any member of the Paul family will make sense on any political issue for exactly five minutes. Precisely at the 5:00:01 mark, however, he will say something so far off the rails that you will find yourself looking at him as though he has sprouted a reptilian head out of his sternum.

Right. Rand and Ron Paul sound great and then you really listen to what they believe and you realize “Uh hell no, this would actually be worse.” I’ll give Rand some grudging credit he does seem to have a legitimate problem with the federal drug war but he would totally ignore how the drug war has hurt people on a state level too.


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