How to Buy an Election

“Shocked by how much the establishment was willing to spend”
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A big factor in the Republican mid-term victories: Big Money.

And they vowed to pick up the beat again in 2016, even as the party’s conservative wing pledged costly and damaging primary battles in response — starting with the presidential race. “We’ve entered a season of bloody Republican primaries where conservatives try to pick off Republicans and where Republicans try to pour as much money into the primaries as possible,” said Erick Erickson, the conservative blogger who allied with tea party groups that challenged establishment Republicans.

Erickson has become a leading voice of the tea party resistance to an attempted quashing by the business wing of the GOP, which grew weary of the brinkmanship championed by conservative Republicans in Congress. He has consulted with like-minded donors and he said “most of the conservatives I talked to were rather shocked by how much the establishment was willing to spend.”

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107 comments
1 Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 5, 2014 11:02:34am

This is our democracy. Untold billions of dollars buying influence and favors after each election.

The days of Washington paying for a pint of stout for every voter seen utterly quaint.

2 Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2014 11:03:00am

US Democracy: For Sale To Highest Bidder.

3 jamesfirecat  Nov 5, 2014 11:03:26am

[Sophie is at a Congressman’s party, pretending to be a lobbyist for a defense contractor.]
Sophie: My company’s focused on meeting Senators, but I’m thinking Congressmen.
Charles Dufort: You know the great thing about Congressmen? Fifty, a hundred grand well spent will get one elected. But then once they’re in, the incumbency rate is over ninety-five percent! So you can get on average eighteen, twenty years use out of one of them. In these uncertain times, buying a United States Congressman is one of the best investments a corporation can make.
Hardison: [listening in on comms] Oh, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. I’m a professional criminal and I find that disturbing.

Leverage —- The Homecoming Job, Season 1 Episode 2.

4 jaunte  Nov 5, 2014 11:12:40am

“Unfortunately, our youth are paying the price. Why should a young person care about character if he is just a random conglomeration of particles which is the essence of Darwin’s gradualism.”

5 Lidane  Nov 5, 2014 11:14:10am
6 jaunte  Nov 5, 2014 11:14:34am

“How will our youts stay on the straight path unless they’re scared of burning forever in Hell?”

7 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 5, 2014 11:14:41am

For real numbers see this link.
opensecrets.org

Democratic Party $731,318,780
Republican Party $574,483,784

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte $146,685,667
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $108,247,132

Republican National Cmte $177,048,769
Democratic National Cmte $153,611,047

Did the biggest spenders lose?

8 De Kolta Chair  Nov 5, 2014 11:14:54am

First order of business for the GOP Congress: how to repeal Obamacare while retaining the death camps.

9 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:15:45am

re: #5 Lidane

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batshit Boykin I presume.

10 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:16:11am

Apparently money cannot buy happiness but it can buy a boatload of politicians. The stupid is now a wildfire and no rain in sight.

11 Kragar  Nov 5, 2014 11:17:03am

re: #7 Indy GOP Refugee

For real numbers see this link.
opensecrets.org

Democratic Party $731,318,780
Republican Party $574,483,784

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte $146,685,667
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $108,247,132

Republican National Cmte $177,048,769
Democratic National Cmte $153,611,047

You seem to be ignoring all the PAC activity.

12 Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2014 11:17:19am

re: #7 Indy GOP Refugee

Those are the parties. Dark money is an altogether different matter.

13 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:17:53am

I’d be happy if the Roberts court realized its fuck up on Citizens United. To say money = speech is to say more money = more speech.

14 StephenMeansMe  Nov 5, 2014 11:18:05am

Big money doesn’t work if people are paying attention. But it does work on apathetic/ignorant people.

On a different topic, as a member of the supposed 13% of Millennials who voted, do exit polls count mail-in ballots? Because WA State is mail-in-only, for example.

15 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 5, 2014 11:19:44am

Meg Whitman

Can you buy an election?

16 Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2014 11:20:12am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I’d be happy if the Roberts court realized its fuck up on Citizens United. To say money = speech is to say more money = more speech.

I imagine that, in the eyes of the majority opinion on Citizens United, the present situation is the intended result.

17 Ian G.  Nov 5, 2014 11:20:25am

re: #5 Lidane

At least he’s an ex-general….as we creep closer and closer to 1973 Chile.

18 ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2014 11:20:42am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I’d be happy if the Roberts court realized its fuck up on Citizens United. To say money = speech is to say more money = more speech.

Hahahahaha.

That is pretty funny and it really made me laugh.

Not making fun of you HappyWarrior…just about Roberts. He was put in that place for a reason. That reason has been made extremely clear.

Now, I will go cry for our country a bit more.

19 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:21:26am

re: #16 Targetpractice

I imagine that, in the eyes of the majority opinion on Citizens United, the present situation is the intended result.

We could easily have Roberts as CJ for another two decades. Groans. Haven’t had a quality CJ since Earl Warren:”.

20 Lidane  Nov 5, 2014 11:21:56am
21 Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2014 11:22:07am

“…and he said “most of the conservatives I talked to were rather shocked by how much the establishment was willing to spend.”

I find that conservatives and children are rather easily shocked.

22 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:22:42am

re: #18 ObserverArt

No worried. I love dark comedy too.

23 klystron  Nov 5, 2014 11:23:12am

I’m just. Really. The sky is not fucking falling. Yesterday sucked, the next two years are going to be a shit show …but they were going to be a shit show anyway with the election coming up. Common sense said this was coming.

Does it suck? Sure. I agree. Are there things that could have been done differently? Probably, we’re certainly going to see no shortage of Wednesday morning campaign strategizing. But a) Republicans typically do better in low turnout elections - which the midterms frequently are, b) there is generally backlash against the party that holds the presidency in the elections during year 6, c) a lot of voters are really fucking dumb/uninformed/don’t care/ooga-booga, and d) we are in a two party system and so when people want to make a change because they are tired of one party, they vote for the other because that is their only other option (see Fatah/Hamas for another very clear cut example of how this works).

24 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 11:23:17am

re: #1 Aunty Entity Dragon

This is our democracy. Untold billions of dollars buying influence and favors after each election.

The days of Washington paying for a pint of stout for every voter seen utterly quaint.

The Koch Suckers have $80 billion. They could spend $1 billion per year on politics and never even notice it.

25 Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2014 11:23:33am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

batshit Boykin I presume.

Vallely—even crazier.

26 ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2014 11:23:46am

Oh yeah…I wanted to make a comment in regards to some of Charles’ last page topic about the lack of young voters.

I worked with an extremely intelligent young man a few years ago. He was studying American History and was just about ready to complete his Masters degree so that he could eventually be a teacher.

He absolutely refused to vote. Said it didn’t matter and actually laughed at me for falling for it.

An American History teacher. Think about that.

The future is fucked.

27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2014 11:23:53am

re: #5 Lidane

Right-wing ex-general calls on Congress to impeach President Obama, put him on trial for treason

It will be impossible for the GOP not to impeach Obama,

28 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 5, 2014 11:24:32am

re: #11 Kragar

You seem to be ignoring all the PAC activity.

Not ignoring… I don’t think they out influence the major party machines, that would include primary monies in a GOP uncivil war TP vs establishment.

And this
Top Spending PAC Aims To Keep The Senate In Democratic Hands

Senate Majority PAC, run by allies of Senate Majority Leader Reid, is the top-spending superPAC in the midterm election season. Its donors are essentially a compilation of the party’s big-donor base.

29 Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2014 11:25:13am
Erickson has become a leading voice of the tea party resistance to an attempted quashing by the business wing of the GOP

How can Eric son of Eric be against the business wing? DEY ES TEH JOB CREATORS!!!!!!!!

30 Lidane  Nov 5, 2014 11:25:33am

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It will be impossible for the GOP not to impeach Obama,

Seriously.

They’re going to impeach him for no reason just to placate the nuts. There are no high crimes. There are no misdemeanors. There is nothing to impeach him on, but they’re going to do it anyway because Scary Black Man in the White House.

31 Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2014 11:26:14am

re: #24 Skip Intro

The Koch Suckers have $80 billion. They could spend $1 billion per year on politics and never even notice it.

Sheldon Adelson is reported to have pissed away 93-153 million in 2012. He ended the year richer. Money works like that, beyond a certain point.

32 klystron  Nov 5, 2014 11:26:49am

Anyway, as the world has not ended, there is still grocery shopping to do.

33 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 5, 2014 11:26:52am

If we want far less spending all we have to do is declare a campaign season. Say three months for the primary, two for the general. No spending om anything the p[ublic can see until them.

Hell make it four and two weeks. Television and the internet go everywhere. These guys don’t need bus tours for months.

34 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:27:26am

Adelson soent a good penny in Florida defeating medical marijuana because i guess he thought he needed to be more of a right wing prick.

35 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 11:27:36am

re: #33 Indy GOP Refugee

If we want far less spending all we have to do is declare a campaign season. Say three months for the primary, two for the general. No spending om anything the p[ublic can see until them.

Hell make it four and two weeks. Television and the internet go everywhere. These guys don’t need bus tours for months.

Yeah, that’s fine, that’s sane, and it would never get past the Supreme Court.

36 Lidane  Nov 5, 2014 11:28:22am

re: #33 Indy GOP Refugee

If we want far less spending all we have to do is declare a campaign season. Say three months for the primary, two for the general. No spending om anything the p[ublic can see until them.

Hell make it four and two weeks. Television and the internet go everywhere. These guys don’t need bus tours for months.

In the aftermath of Citizens United? Seriously?

That ship has sailed. We’re stuck with the campaign seasons we deserve.

37 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:28:47am

re: #35 Skip Intro

Yeah, that’s fine, that’s sane, and it would never get past the Supreme Court.

Mmmm hmmm.

38 philosophus invidius  Nov 5, 2014 11:30:01am

re: #33 Indy GOP Refugee

If we want far less spending all we have to do is declare a campaign season. Say three months for the primary, two for the general. No spending om anything the p[ublic can see until them.

Hell make it four and two weeks. Television and the internet go everywhere. These guys don’t need bus tours for months.

Free speech.

39 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:30:39am

So where the fuck was that Big Bad Boogie Man for the Left, George Soros?////

40 Ojoe  Nov 5, 2014 11:30:58am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

The key is in the intelligence of the hearer, not in the volume of the speech.

It is more useful to raise the general level of intelligence and awareness.

41 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 5, 2014 11:33:29am

re: #35 Skip Intro

Yeah, that’s fine, that’s sane, and it would never get past the Supreme Court.

That’s a cop out, given nobody has tried.

re: #36 Lidane

In the aftermath of Citizens United? Seriously?

That ship has sailed. We’re stuck with the campaign seasons we deserve.

First see above.

Why does Citizens united necessarily favor the GOP over the Democrats? I don’t like it either. Look at how close the spending is anyway. Look how many losers spent more money. Sorry but… Blaming the money is a way to avoid blaming ourselves. Low turnout, crappy candidates, apathy, disengagement is way bigger than disenfranchisement. Those things are US.

It’s a worse mess than partisans can wrap their heads around by literally half. Blame the other guy has some serious logical limits. Mostly in short term thinking rather than the long game.

42 Vicious Piebola  Nov 5, 2014 11:33:54am

There was a crazy-ass meme that was being spammed on Twitter all last week. I can’t find it now, but it was a big pyramid with two legs, stomping on random people. One leg was labeled “Democrats” and the other leg “Republicans” The pyramid was labeled, some stupid shit, “Federal Reserve” or maybe “Teh Juice”

43 danarchy  Nov 5, 2014 11:35:23am

re: #39 nines09

So where the fuck was that Big Bad Boogie Man for the Left, George Soros?////

Didn’t you get the memo, Tom Steyer is the new Boogie Man

44 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:36:57am

re: #40 Ojoe

The key is in the intelligence of the hearer, not in the volume of the speech.

It is more useful to raise the general level of intelligence and awareness.

And how do you raise intelligence? Like it or not, money plays a role. Politics ends up becoming a rich man’s real life version of SimCity.

45 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:37:30am

And while I’m at it did anyone see any “Liberal Media” at work? I missed that entirely. I saw a lot of “People are not happy with Washington.” Who? Bill Washington? Bob? They don’t even know who controlled the House and yet they’re not happy with “Washington”?
I heard quite a bit of “They’re all the same.” No. They are not. 2016 should be quite interesting.

46 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2014 11:37:31am

I would make one observation I find somewhat comforting - After Mitt Romney lost in 2012, a lot of the Right went into denial. “Voter Fraud!” they cried. Then they tried to find ways to prevent voters they don’t like from voting. And they started hinting at secession and violent rebellion.

I don’t see that on the Left this morning. I see anger at the cowardice of Red State Dems who ran away from the President and lost anyway. I see disappointment in young voters who only turn up every 4 years. I see befuddlement at voters who agree with every position of the Democratic Party but vote for Republicans because they’re mad at Washington. I see anger at the Media for taking the easy path and pushing the ‘Both Sides Do It’ narrative.

I’m glad to belong to the side that doesn’t act like two-year-olds when they lose.

47 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:38:25am

I know this much. The right would hate Citizens United if the American labor movement still had teeth.

48 Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 5, 2014 11:38:32am

OT but what’s going on at the hashtag #dudesgreetingdudes just might make your shitty day better.

49 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:38:47am

re: #43 danarchy

Didn’t you get the memo, Tom Steyer is the new Boogie Man

Missed that. Who’s Tom Steyer? Never mind I’ll Gaggle it.

50 Ojoe  Nov 5, 2014 11:40:55am

re: #44 HappyWarrior

There’s nothing but a slow slog over time to raise it.

51 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:41:49am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I know this much. The right would hate Citizens United if the American labor movement still had teeth.

It works for them now. They love it. Shoe on the other foot and they would be screaming like stuck pigs.

52 team_fukit  Nov 5, 2014 11:43:10am

re: #20 Lidane

Congressionally funded study on the impact of Blood Moons on world events, lol!

53 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:43:28am

re: #50 Ojoe

It’s nothing but a slow slog over time to raise it.

Well I am all ears. Here’s the thing. People have been saying they want so and so policy but yet voting against for years now. As I said being saturated with ads does have a role. Maybe not as much on those of us set in our ways:

54 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:44:12am

re: #51 nines09

It works for them now. They love it. Shoe on the other foot and they would be screaming like stuck pigs.

Of course.

55 BeachDem  Nov 5, 2014 11:44:59am

As distraught as I am about the election of batshit loons to Congress, I am even more astonished at the re-election of some of whom I consider the most awful governors ever—Scott? Snyder? LePage? Kasich? Walker? Brownback? (and of course, my very own Haley—but that was pretty much a foregone conclusion.)

Kudos to Pennsylvania for booting Corbett to the curb, but to all the others, WTF is wrong with you people???

56 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 5, 2014 11:45:42am

re: #50 Ojoe

It’s nothing but a slow slog over time to raise it.

People will make intelligent decisions if they have accurate information. At present it’s Garbage In - Garbage Out. As long as that remains profitable the situation won’t change.

57 philosophus invidius  Nov 5, 2014 11:46:29am

re: #43 danarchy

Didn’t you get the memo, Tom Steyer is the new Boogie Man

I don’t understand how they can complain about the alleged influence of Steyer (or Soros) and still support Citizens United, which makes any such influence possible.

58 nines09  Nov 5, 2014 11:47:51am

re: #52 team_fukit

Congressionally funded study on the impact of Blood Moons on world events, lol!

2 million dollars later……”Our committee researching the Blood Moon Phenomena have concluded that no new laws should be enacted until after their passing. Next up for debate is how many fingers does it take to count to 10.”

59 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 5, 2014 11:48:02am

re: #55 BeachDem

Kudos to Pennsylvania for booting Corbett to the curb, but to all the others, WTF is wrong with you people???

Sometimes “they’re stupid” is the right answer.

60 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:48:27am

re: #56 Higgs Boson’s Mate

People will make intelligent decisions if they have accurate information. At present it’s Garbage In - Garbage Out. As long as that remains profitable the situation won’t change.

Right and alot of this I blame on the media who cares more about the latest celebrity fuckup or if they bring up current events at all sensationalize the hell of it. Look at Ebola.

61 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 11:48:34am

They’re never going to go away.

George P. Bush Elected Texas Land Commissioner

62 Khal Wimpo  Nov 5, 2014 11:49:17am

re: #55 BeachDem

As distraught as I am about the election of batshit loons to Congress, I am even more astonished at the re-election of some of whom I consider the most awful governors ever—Scott? Snyder? LePage? Kasich? Walker? Brownback? (and of course, my very own Haley—but that was pretty much a foregone conclusion.)

Kudos to Pennsylvania for booting Corbett to the curb, but to all the others, WTF is wrong with you people???

Walker and Brownback will fulfill the quote that “Americans know what they want in political leaders like this. And they will get it. Good and hard.”

It will be interesting to see what kind of effect re-election has on Brownback in Kansas (home to the Kochs, BTW). Will he double down on the tax cut magic genie that so far has failed to bring any sort of economic activity to Kansas?

And as for Walker. Ugh. Every time I return to my hometown, I see the Badger State has drifted further and further from its roots as the birthplace of the progressive movement, and more towards becoming the a pale shadow of Texas.

63 Ian G.  Nov 5, 2014 11:49:55am

re: #61 Skip Intro

They’re never going to go away.

George P. Bush Elected Texas Land Commissioner

They’re fortunate that their dynasty exists in the 20th and 21st centuries. It has little risk of going the way of Charles I/Louis XVI/Nicholas II.

64 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 11:51:05am

re: #63 Ian G.

I’m waiting to see what Bristol Palin decides to run for.

65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2014 11:52:16am

re: #64 Skip Intro

I’m waiting to see what Bristol Palin decides to run for.

the hills

66 philosophus invidius  Nov 5, 2014 11:52:17am

re: #59 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I would like to know the total votes throughout the country for Senate Dems vs. Repubs in this supposed rebuke to Democrats and Obama. There aren’t many voters in Idaho, Wyoming, etc. compared with Illinois, Michigan, NJ, and MA.

67 Vicious Piebola  Nov 5, 2014 11:52:33am

Wingnuts are waving Tim Scott & Mia Love around like shiny trophies but still spew horrific racism. Just did a Twitter search on “Moochelle” now I have to immerse the PC in bleach.

Not embedding or linking any of that shit.

68 thedopefishlives  Nov 5, 2014 11:54:34am

re: #66 philosophus invidius

I would like to know the total votes throughout the country for Senate Dems vs. Repubs in this supposed rebuke to Democrats and Obama. There aren’t many voters in Idaho, Wyoming, etc. compared with Illinois, Michigan, NJ, and MA.

It’s not the “stinging rebuke” everyone says it is. The Republicans did not get their magic mandate. Their Senate majority is toothless; all they’re going to be able to do is shove mounds of crap onto Obama’s desk, which will come right back to them via the veto.

69 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 11:55:00am

re: #67 Vicious Piebola

Wingnuts are waving Tim Scott & Mia Love around like shiny trophies but still spew horrific racism. Just did a Twitter search on “Moochelle” now I have to immerse the PC in bleach.

Not embedding or linking any of that shit.

That’s all they are to them. Trophies to hide behind “hey we’re not racist.”

70 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 11:57:31am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

the hills

I’m thinking Senator from Arizona once McCain finally leaves the scene.

71 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2014 11:57:48am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

That’s all they are to them. Trophies to hide behind “hey we’re not racist.”

Yah. These are the same people who don’t understand why saying most blacks are so stupid and venal that they can be bought with “free stuff” doesn’t win those black voters over.

72 Bubblehead II  Nov 5, 2014 11:57:58am

re: #66 philosophus invidius

I would like to know the total votes throughout the country for Senate Dems vs. Repubs in this supposed rebuke to Democrats and Obama. There aren’t many voters in Idaho, Wyoming, etc. compared with Illinois, Michigan, NJ, and MA.

Well here are the results from Idaho.

Election ResultsTuesday November 4, 2014

In my home County of Twin Falls, Dems overall took a 2-1 drubbing.

73 blueraven  Nov 5, 2014 11:58:15am

President Obama is speaking now.

74 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 5, 2014 12:00:03pm

re: #64 Skip Intro

I’m waiting to see what Bristol Palin decides to run for.

She resides in Arizona, therefore the Governorship is not out of the question. Some thinly veiled bigotry, a dash of homophobia, some help from Mom, and she’s a shoe-in for just about any office.

75 Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2014 12:01:49pm
76 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 12:02:01pm

Hey, if Bluto Blutarsky could be elected Senator, no reason Bristol couldn’t.

77 Ian G.  Nov 5, 2014 12:02:03pm

re: #68 theEbolafishlives

It’s not the “stinging rebuke” everyone says it is. The Republicans did not get their magic mandate. Their Senate majority is toothless; all they’re going to be able to do is shove mounds of crap onto Obama’s desk, which will come right back to them via the veto.

Exactly. Nothing about the last 4 years of idiocy is going to change, unless the GOP (please proceed) decides to bite off more than they can chew and go with impeachment.

78 jaunte  Nov 5, 2014 12:04:15pm
79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2014 12:04:57pm

re: #74 Higgs Boson’s Mate

She resides in Arizona, therefore the Governorship is not out of the question. Some thinly veiled bigotry, a dash of homophobia, some help from Mom, and she’s a shoe-in for just about any office.

Start out with something like Sheriff of Maricopa County…

80 Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2014 12:06:58pm
81 EPR-radar  Nov 5, 2014 12:07:19pm

re: #78 jaunte

That is a fine line by POTUS. “GOP proposals”. Hah.

The only GOP proposal that will get out of the House is a modest proposal that Obama be required to buy some rope, affix it to the nearest tree, and then hang himself.

82 Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2014 12:07:25pm

re: #75 Ace-o-aces

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In all seriousness, it’s interesting that he’d point out the low voter-turnout rate. What do you think the intended subtext is?

83 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 12:07:44pm

re: #77 Ian G.

Exactly. Nothing about the last 4 years of idiocy is going to change, unless the GOP (please proceed) decides to bite off more than they can chew and go with impeachment.

Why would they change? The voters love them. Impeachment would only make them love them more.

84 jaunte  Nov 5, 2014 12:08:20pm
85 Kragar  Nov 5, 2014 12:08:20pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

In all seriousness, it’s interesting that he’d point out the low voter-turnout rate. What do you think the intended subtext is?

“Get off the couch, you lazy fucks.”

86 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 5, 2014 12:08:34pm

For real???

87 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2014 12:09:09pm

I will be stunned if the GOP does NOT impeach.

88 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 5, 2014 12:10:11pm

re: #77 Ian G.

I repeat: the GOP has held the House since 2010. After years of their shenanigans the electorate punished them by handing them the Senate. I would be unsurprised if they hand them the White House as well.

89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2014 12:10:34pm

re:
#78

Obama “eager to hear Republican proposals” is presidential-level trolling

We haz all the proposals to repeal Obamacare death panels and no immigration and put in the Fare Taxes!!!!!1

90 HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2014 12:10:47pm

re: #86 Resident of The United States of Jesus

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For real???

Looks legit. What in the name of fuck.

91 Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2014 12:11:13pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

In all seriousness, it’s interesting that he’d point out the low voter-turnout rate. What do you think the intended subtext is?

“Hey dumbasses, WTF? I’m busting my rump here and you can’t even bother get your shit together enough to vote once every two years? Jesus Christ you lazy fucks!” I believe is the point he was trying to convey.

92 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 12:12:19pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

I’d like to know the percent that chose “agree”. I’m going to guess around 70%.

93 EPR-radar  Nov 5, 2014 12:12:19pm

re: #88 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I repeat: the GOP has held the House since 2010. After years of their shenanigans the electorate punished them by handing them the Senate. I would be unsurprised if they hand them the White House as well.

I’m certainly much less optimistic about 2016 than I was before. The POTUS race is probably about 50-50, even if the GOP candidate is batshit insane.

94 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2014 12:12:55pm

re:
#88

I repeat: the GOP has held the House since 2010. After years of their shenanigans the electorate punished them by handing them the Senate. I would be unsurprised if they hand them the White House as well.

True dat.

Never has a party been so less deserving of being handed more power.

95 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 12:13:12pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

I’m certainly much less optimistic about 2016 than I was before. The POTUS race is probably about 50-50, even if the GOP candidate is batshit insane.

If the GOP candidate is batshit insane, I give the edge to the GOP by a wide margin.

96 Ian G.  Nov 5, 2014 12:13:17pm

re: #88 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I repeat: the GOP has held the House since 2010. After years of their shenanigans the electorate punished them by handing them the Senate. I would be unsurprised if they hand them the White House as well.

Except that the Presidential-year electorate looks nothing like the midterm electorate.

Look, I don’t know why people younger than me and minorities only vote in Presidential elections, but that’s the way it breaks down. Those people will be back in 2016, and they sure as hell don’t love the GOP and won’t like them any more if they go impeachment.

97 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 5, 2014 12:18:05pm

re: #96 Ian G.

Except that the Presidential-year electorate looks nothing like the midterm electorate.

Look, I don’t know why people younger than me and minorities only vote in Presidential elections, but that’s the way it breaks down. Those people will be back in 2016, and they sure as hell don’t love the GOP and won’t like them any more if they go impeachment.

If we don’t nominate someone who can compellingly speak to their needs those voters will not turn out in large numbers no matter what the Republicans do.

98 Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2014 12:21:04pm

re: #97 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hillary will be nearly 70 and Biden will be 73. I really hope the Dems can find someone to run who isn’t on Medicare.

Damned if I can think of anybody, though.

99 Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2014 12:23:23pm

re: #98 Skip Intro

Hillary will be nearly 70 and Biden will be 73. I really hope the Dems can find someone to run who isn’t on Medicare.

Damned if I can think of anybody, though.

Well, if the only people you can get to vote are on Medicare, they kind of make sense. Get back to me when you get 80% of bobbysoxers to the polls.

100 BeachDem  Nov 5, 2014 12:24:06pm

re: #86 Resident of The United States of Jesus

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For real???

Checking with the state party right now—will report back.

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2014 12:33:33pm

re: #7 Indy GOP Refugee

For real numbers see this link.
opensecrets.org

Democratic Party $731,318,780
Republican Party $574,483,784

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte $146,685,667
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $108,247,132

Republican National Cmte $177,048,769
Democratic National Cmte $153,611,047

Did the biggest spenders lose?

None of those were the big spenders.
Not even close.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2014 12:44:29pm

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

the hills

the wine coolers…

103 elektramourns  Nov 5, 2014 12:49:39pm

Both parties spent a fortune but the GOP was stunningly organized and of one mind.

Dems could learn from yesterday’s performance. We always knew the GOP would learn from the get-out-the-vote performance by the Obama team. The GOP did a splendid job. An Oscar-winning performance.

What disappoints me was the black vote and how they take the Dems for granted. I am tired of it.

104 elektramourns  Nov 5, 2014 12:58:56pm

re: #55 BeachDem

‘Awful” is a relative term. People tell me that these governors were the lesser of 2 evils. The idea that the devil you know is better than the devil you do not know. People in SC made it clear they wanted no taxes, and smaller government, when they re-elected Haley. Remember, she may get hers with all the federal probes going on in Columbia SC. The morals and unethical behavior of a Republican is no different from a Democrat. Look at Cuomo. Look at Nathan Deal. Look at Chris Christie. Look at former governor, Bob McDonald, of Virginia. They all shit in the same pot, and like the definition of “insanity,” we keep voting over and over again, for this one or that one, expecting a different result.

105 Weet  Nov 5, 2014 1:23:17pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

I’m certainly much less optimistic about 2016 than I was before. The POTUS race is probably about 50-50, even if the GOP candidate is batshit insane.

I disagree. The people that voted in 2014 looks just like 2010. It’s a “many Democrats don’t vote in midterms” problem.

The Post did the comparison for you with the 2010 button on this page. All using exit polls, so some error in that by nature.

washingtonpost.com

106 EPR-radar  Nov 5, 2014 2:08:36pm

re: #105 Weet

I disagree. The people that voted in 2014 looks just like 2010. It’s a “many Democrats don’t vote in midterms” problem.

The Post did the comparison for you with the 2010 button on this page. All using exit polls, so some error in that by nature.

washingtonpost.com

I’m well aware of the differing electorates in presidential years vs. midterm years, and that is a significant advantage for the Democrats in 2016.

However, it is still possible for the Democrats to lose. Swing voters tend to decide most elections, and they are unpredictable. Furthermore, the (D) base itself isn’t as reliable as the (R) base. The GOP just won MA gov, of all the stupid things.

The bottom line is that the Democrats need to get their message out about what they stand for . ‘We’re not Republicans’ isn’t going to cut it in 2016.

107 Sionainn  Nov 5, 2014 3:06:38pm

re: #98 Skip Intro

Hillary will be nearly 70 and Biden will be 73. I really hope the Dems can find someone to run who isn’t on Medicare.

Damned if I can think of anybody, though.

My 70-year-old dad would love to vote for Elizabeth Warren. I would, too. I really don’t want to have to vote for Hillary Clinton.


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