New Video Shows Darren Wilson With No Visible Injuries After Shooting Michael Brown

But Jim Hoft still pushes his “fractured eye socket” hoax
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Two videos released today by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch show Officer Darren Wilson (in a white T-shirt) at the police station immediately after he shot Michael Brown to death in Ferguson; the first shows him leaving the station to go to the hospital, the second shows him returning from the hospital.

These videos are the final word on St. Louis hate-blogger Jim Hoft’s “fractured eye socket” hoax — because there are absolutely no visible injuries to Wilson’s face, and when he returns from the hospital there are no bandages, either. If he was indeed struck by Michael Brown, it could not have been severe enough to fracture his eye socket; by this time there would have been severe pain and swelling, but here we see Wilson walking casually with no assistance and in no apparent discomfort. Hardly the behavior of a man who had just suffered a “savage beating,” as Jim Hoft (and other right wing media) claimed.

So how does Hoft react to this definitive proof that his story was false? By linking to his “fractured eye socket” post and repeating his claim that Wilson was “severely injured,” of course — right under the video that shows it to be a lie.

BREAKING—- VIDEO Shows Officer Darren Wilson Leaving for Hospital After Mike Brown Shooting | the Gateway Pundit

Officer Darren Wilson was severely injured during his confrontation with 18 year-old rapper Mike Brown. Darren Wilson was treated at a local hospital after the shooting.

“18 year-old rapper.” Nice.

The Stupidest Man on the Internet is also the most relentlessly dishonest.

UPDATE at 11/15/14 9:39:51 am by Charles Johnson

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch article also includes a newly released timeline from police, showing that Wilson was not taken to the hospital until two hours after the shooting. It goes without saying that if Wilson had received head injuries severe enough to cause facial fractures, he would have gone to the hospital much sooner.

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1 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 9:17:29am

Charles, no offense but the Post-Dispatch article also contained transcripts of the police radio calls made around the time Michael Brown was shot. Those are also an important part of the story and I’d recommend mentioning them in an addendum to your post.

There’s nothing wrong with the post, I just feel it would benefit from the addition.

2 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 15, 2014 9:17:40am

There are Higher Truths, such as the one that Michael Brown was a thug and a gangsta and deserved what happened to him regardless of the circumstances.

Facts must give way to these Higher Truths.

3 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 9:20:39am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There are Higher Truths, such as the one that Michael Brown was a thug and a gangsta and deserved what happened to him regardless of the circumstances.

Facts must give way to these Higher Truths.

Except of course for the fact that he was quite plainly not the latter, being a member of no gang and having no criminal record.

4 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 9:23:25am
5 Weet  Nov 15, 2014 9:27:16am
6 lawhawk  Nov 15, 2014 9:27:19am

The timeline is also against there being any kind of significant injury. The timeline indicates that Wilson was taken to the hospital 2 hours after the shooting, returning 2.5 hours later.

If there was serious injuries, including any kind of serious trauma to the head, up to and including a blowout fracture to the orbital socket, you can bet:

1) he would have been taken to the hospital far sooner than 2 hours after the shooting; and
2) it would take more than 2.5 hours in the hospital to do the diagnosis, run further tests, etc. Just getting an MRI might take 45 minutes by itself to do the scan. X-rays might take a few minutes more. Add to that the whole time to review the scans, and run any additional tests. It simply doesn’t pass the smell test that there was anything wrong with Wilson. Throw in travel time too (and which hospital was he taken to? Barnes? Forest Park? Another hospital?).

He would likely have been hospitalized for at least observation for at least a few hours, if not overnight had there been any kind of serious injury? The PBA union rep would have pushed for that, knowing that it would inure benefit to Wilson’s claims of justification down the road.

Yet, there’s no indication of any serious injuries to the face, let alone minor injuries. The blowout fracture nonsense is just that - a baseless smear designed to give him an excuse for having shot and killed Brown in cold blood.

7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 15, 2014 9:31:07am

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Except of course for the fact that he was quite plainly not the latter, being a member of no gang and having no criminal record.

Do not contradict the Higher Truths!

/

8 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 9:32:34am

GRUBER!

9 Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2014 9:33:02am

re: #6 lawhawk

When I broke my eye socket after taking a baseball to the face, I was taken to the hospital via ambulance (despite being awake, alert, and ambulatory).

10 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 9:33:06am

There really should be an investigation into who leaked this “fractured eye socket” story to people like Hoft. He claimed that he had sources inside the police and prosecutor’s office; if that’s true, there were laws broken by leaking this false information.

11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 15, 2014 9:34:02am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

There really should be an investigation into who leaked this “fractured eye socket” story to people like Hoft. He claimed that he had sources inside the police and prosecutor’s office; if that’s true, there were laws broken by leaking this false information.

I suspect that his claims of insider information are as spurious as the information itself.

12 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 9:35:25am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I suspect that his claims of insider information are as spurious as the information itself.

So you think he made it up out whole cloth, Stephen Glass-style?

13 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 9:36:04am
14 Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2014 9:36:44am

Also, I was considering Charles’ comment last night re: the Gruber video being coordinated with SCOTUS accepting cert on federal exchange cases in order to “poison the well.” I agree with that analysis, but I think it might be even more targeted than initially thought—I think the video may have been in direct response to the editorial written by the Congresspersons that wrote the bill. The editorial talked about their specific intent to allow for federal exchanges/subsidies despite the small flaw in the language of the bill. The Gruber video seems tailor made for Alito or Scalia to use as ammunition to argue that there was an purposefully drafted to deceive the public, so why should any weight be placed on the drafters’ alleged intent re: the exchanges?

15 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 9:37:39am

So Dim is calling Brown an 18-year-old rapper now? LOL

16 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 9:38:01am

re: #14 Mike Lamb

Also, I was considering Charles’ comment last night re: the Gruber video being coordinated with SCOTUS accepting cert on federal exchange cases in order to “poison the well.” I agree with that analysis, but I think it might be even more targeted than initially thought—I think the video may have been in direct response to the editorial written by the Congresspersons that wrote the bill. The editorial talked about their specific intent to allow for federal exchanges/subsidies despite the small flaw in the language of the bill. The Gruber video seems tailor made for Alito or Scalia to use as ammunition to argue that there was an intent to deceive the public, so why should any weight be placed on the drafters’ intent?

But aren’t “originalist” justices all about the drafters’ intent?
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17 lawhawk  Nov 15, 2014 9:38:35am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

There really should be an investigation into who leaked this “fractured eye socket” story to people like Hoft. He claimed that he had sources inside the police and prosecutor’s office; if that’s true, there were laws broken by leaking this false information.

He’s made lots of assertions about having sources, and not a single one of those claims turned out to be true. Now, he might know someone on the PD, and they’re feeding him their opinions, but not a single fact has been provided to Hoft. Not about his condition. Not about the events on the day in question. Not a single one.

But someone is feeding him these claims, and he’s repeating them uncritically as though they’re true. He’s purposefully spreading lies and malicious smears - subverting justice all the way around.

And it should not stand.

18 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 9:41:00am

It’s not really news that Wilson received a report on the convenience store robbery before encountering Brown — that was in the leaked grand jury testimony released more than a week ago.

19 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 9:41:08am

re: #9 Mike Lamb

When I broke my eye socket after taking a baseball to the face, I was taken to the hospital via ambulance (despite being awake, alert, and ambulatory).

Miggy agrees with you.

20 Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2014 9:41:51am

re: #16 Feline Fearless Leader

Only when it suits their purposes.

Seriously, I could see the conservative wing saying that the bill is “vague”, that we can’t trust the intent, since they were purposefully trying to deceive, and then insert their own interpretation to get the result they want to see.

21 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 9:42:17am

re: #15 Kid A

So Dim is calling Brown an 18-year-old rapper now? LOL

To Dim Jim’s audience, ‘rapper’ is just s similar-sounding synonym for the n-word.

22 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 9:42:22am

re: #17 lawhawk

I doubt Hoft is smart enough to make these things up by himself; I’d bet he was fed this information by someone who knew he’d run with it and spread it to the right wing community.

23 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 9:43:33am

UNIV. of TORONTO.

24 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 9:57:51am

Here’s a related tech idea: Require police departments who receive M-16 or M-4 rifles from the DoD to outfit said rifles with a Garmin VIRB Action Camera. According to soldiersystems.net, there are mounts that can place the camera where it can see what the rifle is pointing at.

25 #FergusonFireside  Nov 15, 2014 10:00:44am
26 ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2014 10:05:17am

I’m going to start considering Hoft, Breitbart and a hell of a lot of other conservative sites as nothing but political pornography. And you can’t tell me there are not people that get their arousal from this crap reporting.

And some individuals are smut peddlers, like Chuck C. “Small” Johnson, Alex “They’ll swallow anything” Jones, “Big” Jim Hoft, Benny “Butthead” Shapiro and so many others. They sure deal in luridness and sensationalism, some of the very definitions of porn.

/…a little bit, but think about it.

27 missliberties  Nov 15, 2014 10:23:11am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Jim Hoft has a hard on for the blacks? True.

28 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 10:27:08am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Fr. Coughlin has nothing on them.

29 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 10:27:50am

re: #5 Weet

The Republican party are determined to run this country into the goddamn ground and call it a jobs program. Assholes.

30 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 10:31:28am

re: #26 ObserverArt

I’m going to start considering Hoft, Breitbart and a hell of a lot of other conservative sites as nothing but political pornography. And you can’t tell me there are not people that get their arousal from this crap reporting.

Oh, it’s absolute political porn. There is a segment in this country that isn’t happy unless they’re outraged and frothing about whatever imagined scandal they want to believe in.

Benghazi, a blown out eye socket, POTUS being an ISIS agent allowing Ebola infected terror babies across the border… it’s all the same. And it all comes from the same place. It’s pure porn for the bigots and idiots, and it sells.

31 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 10:34:58am

And they had time to stop by a fast food place on the way back to the station to grab a slurpee.

32 Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2014 10:35:07am

Hee hee hee…

The Vatican Is Building Showers for the Homeless in Rome

time.com

Scan the Freep thread if you need an example of missing the point.

33 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 10:36:53am

re: #29 Lidane

The Republican party are determined to run this country into the goddamn ground and call it a jobs program. Assholes.

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

34 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 10:37:58am

I’d also like to ask Dim and his merry band of morons how old a story has to be before it is no longer BREAKING!!!

35 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 10:38:15am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

Maybe not, but the people who passed Keystone, which is what I was responding to, ARE the Republican party. And yes, they ARE determined to destroy this country and call it progress.

36 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 10:41:06am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

No. He’s just a typical example of their base.

37 jamesfirecat  Nov 15, 2014 10:42:09am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a related tech idea: Require police departments who receive M-16 or M-4 rifles from the DoD to outfit said rifles with a Garmin VIRB Action Camera. According to soldiersystems.net, there are mounts that can place the camera where it can see what the rifle is pointing at.

Or you know just get body cams that can be mounted on glasses that would achieve the same effect (if it’s turn offed and not broken durring your shift you are so f$&king fired it is not funny and if you keep having them “break” on you at convient times paying for a new pair will be the least of your worries) without further militarizing the police an action which is benefitting no one in the long run…

38 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 10:49:18am

re: #35 Lidane

Maybe not, but the people who passed Keystone, which is what I was responding to, ARE the Republican party. And yes, they ARE determined to destroy this country and call it progress.

Keystone XL is not an example of destroying the US or Canada, either. But it will help stick it to Russia by driving down oil prices.

39 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 10:50:01am

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Keystone XL is not an example of destroying the US or Canada, either. But it will help stick it to Russia by driving down oil prices.

Not for us. We won’t get any of it.

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 10:53:23am

Hamilton Beach sammich maker and the hot dog toaster unit have arrived!
Yay, me!

41 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 10:58:47am

re: #37 jamesfirecat

With the exception that police can turn the cameras off if they are speaking to informants or witnesses who need their identities protected. There are ways to document such case, and said exception provides protection for those who can’t be found out as having spoken to police.

42 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 10:59:44am

re: #39 GlutenFreeJesus

Not for us. We won’t get any of it.

Oil prices are mostly determined by world-wide supply.

43 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 10:59:58am

RWNJs spend every waking moment screeching about “transparency”, yet are utter silent about the lack of transparency about the Michael Brown murder. It took over a week for Darren Wilson”s name to be released. He hasn’t been seen from or heard from since he murdered Brown. Now, this video just appears out of no where. This whole thing fucking stinks.

44 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 11:00:02am

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hamilton Beach sammich maker and the hot dog toaster unit have arrived!
Yay, me!

The breakfast sammich maker? That thing is AWESOME. Of course now, they have a double unit. But I’m good with the single. :D

45 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 11:01:20am

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Oil prices are mostly determined by world-wide supply.

WTF does that have to do with the fact that we won’t benefit from this at all? We are taking all of the risk, won’t get any of the jobs or oil, but when it breaks, guess who is going to be forced to clean it up?

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:01:27am

re: #44 GlutenFreeJesus

The breakfast sammich maker? That thing is AWESOME. Of course now, they have a double unit. But I’m good with the single. :D

Yep, that’s the one! I got the single unit for now, but will get the double unit next year.

47 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:03:24am

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF does that have to do with the fact that we won’t benefit from this at all? We are taking all of the risk, won’t get any of the jobs or oil, but when it breaks, guess who is going to be forced to clean it up?

Exactly. Keystone XL is a joke. We’re willingly going to fuck up our environment and our drinking water so that Canada can get oil to China? Really?

It’s stupid.

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:05:17am

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF does that have to do with the fact that we won’t benefit from this at all? We are taking all of the risk, won’t get any of the jobs or oil, but when it breaks, guess who is going to be forced to clean it up?

Also, all of that tar sand crap will be shipped out from Port Arthur, Texas, which is a Free Trade Zone. That means The USA doesn’t even get to tax any of it.
Really, there is no economic benefit for us in this deal at all. The only ones who benefit are the companies, the investors and the politicians.

49 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:05:52am

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF does that have to do with the fact that we won’t benefit from this at all? We are taking all of the risk, won’t get any of the jobs or oil, but when it breaks, guess who is going to be forced to clean it up?

We get the jobs building it and we’ll handle the movement of the oil to tankers in Houston. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault).

50 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:06:40am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, there is no economic benefit for us in this deal at all. The only ones who benefit are the companies, the investors and the politicians.

But Free Market Jesus says we need Keystone XL because energy independence! And freedom! Or something.

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:07:04am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

We get the jobs building it and we’ll handle the movement of the oil to tankers in Houston. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault.

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

52 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 11:07:59am

If President Obama supported Keystone XL, the RWNJs would be shitting themselves and screeching that the Moooslim Commie is selling our country to a foreign nation. True story.

53 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:08:00am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault.)

$100 says that TransCanada would find just enough Republicans to write language in that agreement ensuring they’d never be responsible for anything.

54 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:08:07am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, all of that tar sand crap will be shipped out from Port Arthur, Texas, which is a Free Trade Zone. That means The USA doesn’t even get to tax any of it.
Really, there is no economic benefit for us in this deal at all. The only ones who benefit are the companies, the investors and the politicians.

The US doesn’t tax exports anyhow, BaSl. It’s unconstitutional, a provision southern states demanded (at the time they were dependent on agricultural exports).

55 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 11:08:11am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

We get the jobs building it and we’ll handle the movement of the oil to tankers in Houston. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault.

The only permanent jobs will be in the toxic sludge clean up biz. Right over top of one of the most critical aquifers for the worlds food supply.

56 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:09:18am

re: #53 Lidane

$100 says that TransCanada would find just enough Republicans to write language in that agreement ensuring they’d never be responsible for anything.

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

57 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 11:09:36am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

We get the jobs building it and we’ll handle the movement of the oil to tankers in Houston. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault.

And everyone will get a unicorn and a pony for Christmas.

58 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:10:03am

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

Oh please. The Republicans were falling all over themselves apologizing to BP after Deepwater Horizon because people were being mean to them.

59 jamesfirecat  Nov 15, 2014 11:10:07am

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

With the exception that police can turn the cameras off if they are speaking to informants or witnesses who need their identities protected. There are ways to document such case, and said exception provides protection for those who can’t be found out as having spoken to police.

That is entirely reasonable and I support the idea 100% I just think it works better to make cops simply wear glasses with the camera built in /attached than to have it be attached to any weapon, especially one police should only need to use in a worst of the worst case scenario.

60 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 11:10:22am

re: #57 BeachDem

And everyone will get a unicorn and a pony for Christmas.

I’m going to name mine Fred and Bonnie.

61 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 11:10:37am

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

*gobsmacked* *facepalm* Seriously? You are seriously asking this?

Today’s GOP doesn’t hold business responsible for ANY damage. After all, we can’t damage business. We, the people, would either have to pay to clean it up or, more likely, live with it.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:12:09am

re: #55 William Barnett-Lewis

The only permanent jobs will be in the toxic sludge clean up biz. Right over top of one of the most critical aquifers for the worlds food supply.

And the pipeline’s proposed route goes through Oklahoma, land of constant cluster earthquakes.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 11:12:33am

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

The legal bribery of our post “Citizens United” campaign finance system?

64 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:13:07am

Reminder:

Texas GOP Rep. Barton Apologizes to BP for Obama’s ‘Shakedown’

If you think today’s GOP would hold TransCanada accountable for any spills or accidents with Keystone XL after they’ve whored themselves out so shamelessly to get Keystone passed, you’re naive. Ain’t gonna happen. Ever. The GOP will just roll over and blame Greenpeace or some shit.

65 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 11:13:16am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

I’m going to name mine Fred and Bonnie.

If they’re from the Republicans, perhaps Bonnie and Clyde would be more appropriate.

66 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 11:14:21am

re: #53 Lidane

$100 says that TransCanada would find just enough Republicans to write language in that agreement ensuring they’d never be responsible for anything.

All they have to do is spin off the pipeline ownership to an independent subsidiary once it is built.

67 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:14:29am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

I’m going to name mine Fred and Bonnie.

Really, I thought that a pro-social programs fellow like you would call them ‘Her’ and ‘Him’.

/three updings to whoever correctly IDs the reference.

68 jamesfirecat  Nov 15, 2014 11:15:56am

re: #65 BeachDem

If they’re from the Republicans, perhaps Bonnie and Clyde would be more appropriate.

////Well the unicorns and ponies would be democrats, I mean Twlight Sparkle is a ivory tower intellectual and Rareity is a fashion designer, not to mention both of them believe in the magic friendship of course they’d vote democratic…

Celestia /Discord 2016!

69 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:16:50am

re: #65 BeachDem

If they’re from the Republicans, perhaps Bonnie and Clyde would be more appropriate.

Nope. Sorry, but in the 1930’s Texas and Louisiana were run by the Democrats. So you guys own those two thugs.

/Honest about the history, kidding about the rest.

70 sagehen  Nov 15, 2014 11:17:13am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

Last week, on another website, I got involved in a comments thread argument about the Republican position on birth control. Several of your ideological clones insisted that the positions taken publicly by Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin were in no way representative of “Republicans believe…” or “Republicans want…” and how dare I use such a broad brush to paint the party.

It was apparently an insult for me to suggest that the Republicans as a whole subscribe to a position that was endorsed by every single 2012 primary contender, and every so-far-talking-about-2016 contender. Unless it’s unanimous, until every self-declared Republican in every comments section agrees, I’m totally out of line to smear this particular commenter who felt otherwise on that one issue.

(this was, of course, a commenter who routinely declares that libtards and dimocrats universally agree with the fringiest leftie in any comments thread anywhere, even on matters where that leftie’s views contradict every public statement of every office-holding Dem in the nation).

So yeah, Jim Hoft is not The Republican Party. He’s just an entirely typical example of Republican media, posting “Breaking Stories” that are amplified through Drudge and Limbaugh and the rest of right-wing radio and your voters hear it as truth.

71 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 11:18:12am

Hoft is just a lone wolf commentator. Of course.
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72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:18:20am
73 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 11:18:46am

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Nope. Sorry, but in the 1930’s Texas and Louisiana were run by the Democrats. So you guys own those two thugs.

/Honest about the history, kidding about the rest.

Yes, it’s a well established fact the Texas and the South were hotbeds of liberalism until the 1960s then all the libs moved to NY and CA.

74 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:19:02am

re: #66 Feline Fearless Leader

All they have to do is spin off the pipeline ownership to an independent subsidiary once it is built.

And then find a way to indemnify that subsidiary, of course.

75 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 11:19:13am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the pipeline’s proposed route goes through Oklahoma, land of constant cluster earthquakes.

Caused by fracking. After that 5.6 mag earthquake struck Prague, OK, in 2011, I asked my dad (RIP), who grew up in the 1930s and ’40s a few miles near there, if they ever had earthquakes. “Nope.” He was astonished there had been an earthquake of that magnitude near Prague.

76 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 11:19:30am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BTW, how do eggs free-range?
O_o

(Have vision of eggs rolling themselves across the yard.)

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 11:19:55am

re: #74 Lidane

And then find a way to indemnify that subsidiary, of course.

The subsidiary will go bankrupt and the principles will disappear.

78 jamesfirecat  Nov 15, 2014 11:20:37am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

The subsidiary will go bankrupt and the principles will disappear.

The principles disappeared from the oil industry a long time ago.

79 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 11:21:42am

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Nope. Sorry, but in the 1930’s Texas and Louisiana were run by the Democrats. So you guys own those two thugs.

/Honest about the history, kidding about the rest.

Right, and you remember what happened in the 1960s to cause all those Democrats to switch to the GOP? Why, it might have something to do with Those Black People getting the right to vote thanks to Lyndon Baines Johnson (owner of Him and Her).

80 Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2014 11:22:24am

re: #15 Kid A

So Dim is calling Brown an 18-year-old rapper now? LOL

Everyone has their dreams, at least he was attempting to be a college educated rapper.

81 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 11:23:40am
82 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 11:26:11am

What’s depressing about all this Michael Brown news is that it keeps reminding me of what is going to happen when that grand jury report gets out. IMHO, Wilson will not be indicted. There will be protests. Because the police can’t seem to figure out how to manage themselves around peaceful protesters, there will be violence. And it will escalate into riots.

No matter if you think Mike Brown was a thug or a rapper or a criminal (which, by the way, not a member of a gang, no criminal history so far as I know), for the good of the country, it would be best if all the evidence was brought out before the trier of fact. Put everyone on the stand, under oath, and get it all out there. The problem is, the prosecutors are so cozy with the cops it’s not going to happen. And we’ll never know the full truth of what happened in those 90 seconds.

83 Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2014 11:26:36am

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

$

84 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:28:07am

re: #79 dholmes32

Right, and you remember what happened in the 1960s to cause all those Democrats to switch to the GOP? Why, it might have something to do with Those Black People getting the right to vote thanks to Lyndon Baines Johnson (owner of Him and Her).

I was kidding, and I only used that line because ‘Republican’ was said instead of ‘Conservative’.

And you of course win the three updings, with your #79 getting the first one.

85 Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2014 11:28:26am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

I’m going to name mine Fred and Bonnie.

Lance and Guinevere

86 jamesfirecat  Nov 15, 2014 11:31:47am

re: #85 Eventual Carrion

Lance and Guinevere

Vlad and Elizabeth

87 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:32:44am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

I’m going to name mine Fred and Bonnie.

Rocky and Mugsy.

88 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:34:26am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

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A modern-day slaver, heir to a dishonorable Southern tradition. Whereas here in Illinois we sing:

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89 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:35:10am

This should outrage the RWNJs:

90 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:38:47am

re: #89 Lidane

This should outrage the RWNJs:

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The Fundies will just use it as an opportunity to condemn Pope Francis as a “Peronist Progressive”.

91 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 11:40:06am

re: #89 Lidane

This should outrage the RWNJs:

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One of the best shows I ever saw was her playing in Madison. Good stuff.

“Jesus died for somebody’s sins. But not mine…”

There’s some interesting theology there if you tease it out, more orthodox than many would care to admit…

92 Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2014 11:40:08am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

The Fundies will just use it as an opportunity to condemn Pope Francis as a “Peronist Progressive”.

Trollifex Maximus.

93 Single-handed sailor  Nov 15, 2014 11:42:35am

re: #89 Lidane

Patti Smith was the only person I could think of that could hold that title. I hope she plays ‘Gloria’ and ‘Horses’.

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 11:42:42am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

The Fundies will just use it as an opportunity to condemn Pope Francis as a “Peronist Progressive”.

He saw what the very far right was like(ie evil) up close and personal in Argentina. As a result he’s a good corrective to a pope who went too far in opposing the very real problems of the very far left.

I pray his reforms will continue for decades to come. I know I am heartened by the new Archbishop of Chicago.

95 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 11:47:11am

Some traditions just belong in the trash bin.

90 arrested in Gouda, Netherlands, as ‘Black Pete’ protests mar annual Dutch holiday festival - @AFP
read more on yahoo.com

96 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:49:00am

re: #95 Justanotherhuman

Some traditions just belong in the trash bin.

90 arrested in Gouda, Netherlands, as ‘Black Pete’ protests mar annual Dutch holiday festival - @AFP
read more on yahoo.com

I hope no harm came to the cheese.

97 Lidane  Nov 15, 2014 11:49:29am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

The Fundies will just use it as an opportunity to condemn Pope Francis as a “Peronist Progressive”.

They already hate him because he actually espoused the Catholic teachings on social justice and evolution. And he doesn’t want to kill gay people or force them into conversion therapy. AND he demoted a conservative critic.

Having Patti Smith perform is minor in comparison.

98 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 11:49:35am

re: #91 William Barnett-Lewis

One of the best shows I ever saw was her playing in Madison. Good stuff.

“Jesus died for somebody’s sins. But not mine…”

There’s some interesting theology there if you tease it out, more orthodox than many would care to admit…

God May Forgive You (But I Won’t).

Youtube Video

99 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 11:50:06am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

Yes he is.

100 Teukka  Nov 15, 2014 11:52:17am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

re: #99 Kid A

Yes he is.

IIRC, he’s the epitomy of the far left of the Republican party, no?

///

101 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 11:54:29am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Jim Hoft is NOT the Republican party.

Missed this earlier.

I will agree with you the day I see the Republican party willing to support someone like Lee Sherman Dreyfus again or apologizes for running Steve Gunderson out of congress for the crime of loving the same person for decades.

Those were the last two Republicans I willingly voted for. I have voted for others because the alternative was worse but they were votes _for_ them. I can not name a single Republican running for office now in this nation that I can say that about.

102 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 11:55:33am

re: #93 Single-handed sailor

Patti Smith was the only person I could think of that could hold that title. I hope she plays ‘Gloria’ and ‘Horses’.

I hope you’ll forgive me for saying that ‘Gloria’ as a song name is one I’ll always identify with Laura Branigan:

Youtube Video

Post edited.

103 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 11:57:56am

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

I hope you’ll forgive me for saying that ‘Gloria’ as a song name is one I’ll identify with Laura Branigan:

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Before any of them…1966.

Youtube Video

104 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:00:00pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Before any of them…1966.

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Video

Yeah, but that was before I was born. I’m not saying that song was bad, but as a rule we identify most with things of our own lives and times.

105 makeitstop  Nov 15, 2014 12:00:48pm

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

I hope you’ll forgive me for saying that ‘Gloria’ as a song name is one I’ll identify with Laura Branigan:

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Absolutely horrible. :)

Even though Van Morisson’s Them recorded this one first, this is the band I associate with the tune Smith eventually covered.

Youtube Video

106 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:01:54pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but that was before I was born. I’m not saying that song was bad, but as a rule we identify most with things of our own lives and times.

Actually it was 1964. A very young Van Morrison.

en.wikipedia.org

107 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 12:02:05pm

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

Why am I not surprised?

Ah, well, my youth was framed by “Horses” and “Under The Big Black Sun”. Pop music was Boston and Fleetwood Mac. When I was getting ready to join the Army, U2 was still an underground band that had their own version of “Gloria” out on 45.

Music will mark your age and class faster than Anything else in America.

108 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:03:55pm

re: #105 makeitstop

Absolutely horrible. :)

Even though Van Morisson’s Them recorded this one first, this is the band I associate with the tune Smith eventually covered.

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That’s the one recorded in 1966 and was more popular in the US.

109 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:04:04pm

Nancy Pelosi has a compassion FAIL:

A pregnant Congresswoman who has been told by doctors not to travel has been refused permission to vote by proxy by Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi - who herself accused reporters of sexism for asking about her future.

Illinois Democrat Rep. Tammy Duckworth is in the final weeks of her pregnancy.

A double amputee Iraq war veteran who lost both legs when her helicopter came under fire, the 46-year-old had asked for the ability to stay in Illinois to vote.

But despite her doctor’s orders, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and other bigwigs killed a proposal Thursday that would have let her participate remotely.

Hours earlier, Pelosi loudly questioned the motives of a female reporter who asked her whether the Dems’ Nov. 4 drubbing might lead her to step down from her leadership post.

110 ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2014 12:04:11pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Before any of them…1966.

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Video

Thank You!

The Real Gloria. To me anyway. It was on every garage bands favorite list.

111 makeitstop  Nov 15, 2014 12:05:00pm

re: #107 William Barnett-Lewis

When I was getting ready to join the Army, U2 was still an underground band that had their own version of “Gloria” out on 45.

Same name, totally different song.

Youtube Video

112 Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2014 12:05:02pm

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

I hope you’ll forgive me for saying that ‘Gloria’ as a song name is one I’ll always identify with Laura Branigan:

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Post edited.

Always brings me back to Monteverdi.

Youtube Video

113 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:08:13pm

re: #107 William Barnett-Lewis

Why am I not surprised?

Ah, well, my youth was framed by “Horses” and “Under The Big Black Sun”. Pop music was Boston and Fleetwood Mac. When I was getting ready to join the Army, U2 was still an underground band that had their own version of “Gloria” out on 45.

Music will mark your age and class faster than Anything else in America.

No kidding. I was listening to Hank Ballard & the Midnighters, Jimmy Reed, Laverne Baker, Ruth Brown, and a raft of Black musicians that were only played on the rhythm & blues stations back in the 1950s.

White pop? Fool, please. : )

114 urbanmeemaw  Nov 15, 2014 12:09:09pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Please provide feedback on the hot dog toaster. I love hot dogs but don’t have a grill so I’m always looking for an good alternative. Plus I’m very lazy and like the idea of popping bun and dog into toaster at one time.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 12:09:27pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Same name, totally different song.

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Trust me, I know :) Few recall that they did a song named that anymore.

Boy & October were interesting but in no way made you expect the explosion that was War. The only other album that blew my mind as hard while I was in Germany was Sprinsteen’s Born In The USA. Unlike Ronnie, I GOT those lyrics the first time through and sat crying in my arms room that morning.

116 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:09:29pm

re: #107 William Barnett-Lewis

Why am I not surprised?

Ah, well, my youth was framed by “Horses” and “Under The Big Black Sun”. Pop music was Boston and Fleetwood Mac. When I was getting ready to join the Army, U2 was still an underground band that had their own version of “Gloria” out on 45.

Music will mark your age and class faster than Anything else in America.

Well, U2 was also dealing with the faith of its members at the time, so they were working through the some of the same issues as Patti Smith.

Youtube Video

117 urbanmeemaw  Nov 15, 2014 12:11:49pm

re: #52 Dr. Matt

I keep wishing Obama would issue a statement on dangers of drinking bleach mixed with ammonia and Sean Hannity, Jim Hoft or Fill In The Blank would be forced to prove him wrong.

118 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 12:12:29pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

CBS:

The motion to allow Duckworth a proxy vote was made by Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Illinois. Then, according to a Democratic aide, Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wisconsin, also requested a proxy vote because she will be attending a funeral on Tuesday. Most of the members in the room then seemed inclined to deny the original motion on the grounds that it seemed to be creating something of a slippery slope. Schakowsky seemed to recognize this and withdrew her motion. The other issue for the lawmakers was that they had no practical way of casting a secret ballot remotely.

119 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:15:23pm

re: #118 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Isn’t it the job of the leadership to sand slippery slopes and make decisions?

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 12:18:37pm
121 Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2014 12:19:27pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Always brings me back to Monteverdi.

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Video

Brings me to Umberto Tozzi.

Youtube Video

122 blueraven  Nov 15, 2014 12:19:31pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Nancy Pelosi has a compassion FAIL:

Bullshit. It is a rule for voting on house leadership. Another wanted to vote by proxy for attending a funeral. The one member who originally wanted to allow the proxy vote withdrew her request due to slippery slope.

Daily Fail

123 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 12:19:57pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Isn’t it the job of the leadership to sand slippery slopes and make decisions?

They did make a decision. They decided to not allow proxy voting.

124 makeitstop  Nov 15, 2014 12:20:10pm

re: #115 William Barnett-Lewis

Trust me, I know :) Few recall that they did a song named that anymore.

Boy & October were interesting but in no way made you expect the explosion that was War. The only other album that blew my mind as hard while I was in Germany was Sprinsteen’s Born In The USA. Unlike Ronnie, I GOT those lyrics the first time through and sat crying in my arms room that morning.

We were fortunate enough to have a radio station here on Long Island called WLIR, which was an early adapter of the ‘New Wave’ format established by KROQ in Los Angeles. They were on U2 (and all the other New Wave bands of that era) very early, and the song you mention got regular airplay for a while.

They also introduced NY songs like to R.E.M’s ‘Radio Free Europe’ single, which I still consider their best work. It’s kind of amusing to see the punkish moppets in this video, as opposed to the band they turned into.

Youtube Video

125 Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2014 12:21:05pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Brings me to Umberto Tozzi.

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Doesn’t want to play on websites other than YT.

126 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:21:44pm

“We’re all gonna die!” (cont) ////

Live video: Plane carrying a 3rd Ebola-infected healthcare worker, arrives at Eppley Airfield in Nebraska - @NBCNews
read more on nbcnews.com

127 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 12:22:45pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Isn’t it the job of the leadership to sand slippery slopes and make decisions?

They did.

128 Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2014 12:23:11pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Doesn’t want to play on websites other than YT.

Weird. OK.

Youtube Video

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 12:23:40pm

re: #124 makeitstop

We were fortunate enough to have a radio station here on Long Island that was an early adapter of the ‘New Wave’ format established by KROQ in Los Angeles. They were on U2 (and all the other New Wave bands of that era) very early, and the song you mention got regular airplay for a while.

They also introduced NY songs like to R.E.M’s ‘Radio Free Europe’ single, which I still consider their best work. It’s kind of amusing to see the punkish moppets in this video, as opposed to the band they turned into.

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I always loved Don’t Go Back To Rockville because the song scans perfectly with “Don’t go back to Eau Claire” and my hometown was Eau Claire, WI.

(pronouced “oh clair”)

130 blueraven  Nov 15, 2014 12:25:25pm

Oh MFG

I tend to ignore most of his BS, but this is…I dont even

131 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:25:30pm

re: #127 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

They did.

And it was the wrong decision, IMO.

132 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 12:26:32pm

re: #130 blueraven

Oh MFG

I tend to ignore most of his BS, but this is…I dont even

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Shitheads gotta stick together.

133 blueraven  Nov 15, 2014 12:27:42pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

And it was the wrong decision, IMO.

Do you really give a fuck? Or is this just another chance to bash Nancy Pelosi?

Never mind…rhetorical.

134 Belafon  Nov 15, 2014 12:27:48pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes, God says no.

135 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:28:03pm

Emirates Brands Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists

abcnews.go.com

“The United Arab Emirates designated the Muslim Brotherhood and dozens of other Islamist groups as terrorist organizations on Saturday, ratcheting up the pressure on the group by lumping it together with extremists such as the Islamic State group and the Nusra Front, al-Qaida’s affiliate in Syria.

“The federation’s Cabinet adopted the designations against the 83 groups, the official state news agency WAM said. They include Al-Islah, an Emirati group suspected of ties to the Brotherhood whose members have faced prosecution in the seven-state federation, which includes the cosmopolitan business hub of Dubai and the capital of Abu Dhabi.” More

136 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:28:57pm

re: #130 blueraven

Oh MFG

I tend to ignore most of his BS, but this is…I dont even

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I wish we had a leader like Geert Wilders.

And that right there says everything you need to know about Charles C. Johnson.

137 makeitstop  Nov 15, 2014 12:29:24pm

When I woke up this afternoon I looked out my bathroom window and finally saw the fox my wife has been seeing in the morning around our neighborhood, in an empty building on the lot next door. I grabbed my camera and sneaked out to the property line, where I was able to snap a pic.

No, I do not know what it says.
138 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:32:24pm

It’s still in the low ’40s here (I know, a lot “warmer” than some places), but it was in the 20s last night, and expected to be in the 20s several mornings next week.

This is 20 deg below our Nov averages. So, go away. : )

139 Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2014 12:34:16pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So say we all.

(yes, I know that was the new series, but it still works)

140 bill d  Nov 15, 2014 12:35:06pm

re: #137 makeitstop

Now there is some FoxNews that we can all enjoy and believe in.

141 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 12:35:19pm

re: #130 blueraven

That’s moving beyond stupid into evil.

142 Kragar  Nov 15, 2014 12:35:39pm

Well, the wife’s new PC has been ordered. Now I just have to put up with her sighing and moping for 7-10 days

143 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:35:56pm

re: #130 blueraven

Oh MFG

I tend to ignore most of his BS, but this is…I dont even

[Embedded content]

And here I thought we’d escape his idiotic “observations” today.

Silly me.

144 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2014 12:36:23pm

re: #142 Kragar

Well, the wife’s new PC has been ordered. Now I just have to put up with her sighing and moping for 7-10 days

Tell me you didn’t get Windows 8.

145 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 12:36:48pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

We get the jobs building it and we’ll handle the movement of the oil to tankers in Houston. Approval can be conditioned upon an appropriate monitoring center being set up in the US along the route and a binding commitment from TransCanada to clean up spills (though the company would retain the right to sue responsible parties if the spill was not its fault).

Bullshit.

146 Kragar  Nov 15, 2014 12:37:57pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Tell me you didn’t get Windows 8.

That will be her problem, not mine.

147 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:38:44pm

re: #133 blueraven

Do you really give a fuck? Or is this just another chance to bash Nancy Pelosi?

Never mind…rhetorical.

Given how badly Tammy Duckworth got hurt by Saddam Hussein’s thugs when they shot down her helo, the fact that she could get pregnant at all, much less at 41, is little short of a miracle in my eyes. So there’s that argument in her favor.

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

Then lastly, there’s the fact that Tammy Duckworth got her seat in Congress by defeating deadbeat dad, pathological liar, and all-around poisonous toad Joe Walsh. She’s from my state and she did every sane person in Illinois a favor in removing Walsh from our congressional delegation.

So yeah, BR, I care.

148 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 12:40:39pm

re: #76 Feline Fearless Leader

BTW, how do eggs free-range?
O_o

(Have vision of eggs rolling themselves across the yard.)

Free-range tomatoes… (Attack of The Killer Tomatoes)

149 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 12:41:18pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Given how badly Tammy Duckworth got hurt by Saddam Hussein’s thugs when they shot down her helo, the fact that she could get pregnant at all, much less at 41, is little short of a miracle in my eyes. So there’s that argument in her favor.

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

Then lastly, there’s the fact that Tammy Duckworth got her seat in Congress by defeating deadbeat dad, pathological liar, and all-around poisonous toad Joe Walsh. She’s from my state and she did every sane person in Illinois a favor in removing Walsh from our congressional delegation.

So yeah, BR, I care.

Yet you voted for Rauner. lol

150 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 12:41:19pm

re: #146 Kragar

That will be her problem, not mine.

I’m waiting for Windows 9/10 (or whatever they’re going to call it) before buying a new desktop. And then I’ll hold off to see how it’s adopted. My employer (a TBTF bank) didn’t even attempt to adopt Vista and it looks like they’re skipping right over Win 8 as well.

151 Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2014 12:42:35pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Given how badly Tammy Duckworth got hurt by Saddam Hussein’s thugs when they shot down her helo, the fact that she could get pregnant at all, much less at 41, is little short of a miracle in my eyes. So there’s that argument in her favor.

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

Then lastly, there’s the fact that Tammy Duckworth got her seat in Congress by defeating deadbeat dad, pathological liar, and all-around poisonous toad Joe Walsh. She’s from my state and she did every sane person in Illinois a favor in removing Walsh from our congressional delegation.

So yeah, BR, I care.

So what do you feel Pelosi should have done? Carved a special exemption into rules regarding votes so she could submit a proxy vote while all other Democrats had to be in person to cast their vote? You do understand that would not have stopped others from submitting their own excuses, such as the already mentioned Congresswoman who is attending a funeral, in order to submit votes, right? And what of the criticism that she would receive for allowing proxy votes when Congress has forbidden such since its creation, a situation that both parties have exploited in the past to pass bills in absence of the other party’s members?

152 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 12:42:59pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

All admirable sentiments about Duckworth, and they have fuck all to do with how the Democratic House leadership decides to conduct voting within their ranks.

153 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:43:54pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Bullshit.

Dumbass Princess of the North signed a $500M deal with Transcanada (her infamous “AGIA” projecct) to build a pipeline which has never been done. How much of a boondoggle does anyone who looks hard enough think Keystone would turn out in the hands of Transcanada? From 2011:

politicususa.com

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 12:44:35pm

Doorframe (previously known as “not my cat”) just had a grand mal seizure.
Right now he’s post-ictal and totally zonked.
I know it’s scary for him and the rest of the indoor pack (feline, canine and human), but we’ve been through this before with furry companions (special needs and elderly) over the decades.

Anyway…positive vibes requested…

155 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 12:47:26pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of FAIL, dude, you linked to the Daily Fail. If you’re going to subject us to that Fox News with a British accent, can you do it via donotlink? Kthxbai.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 12:47:39pm

re: #148 GlutenFreeJesus

Free-range tomatoes… (Attack of The Killer Tomatoes)

god…I love that movie…

157 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:47:42pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Given how badly Tammy Duckworth got hurt by Saddam Hussein’s thugs when they shot down her helo, the fact that she could get pregnant at all, much less at 41, is little short of a miracle in my eyes. So there’s that argument in her favor.

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

Then lastly, there’s the fact that Tammy Duckworth got her seat in Congress by defeating deadbeat dad, pathological liar, and all-around poisonous toad Joe Walsh. She’s from my state and she did every sane person in Illinois a favor in removing Walsh from our congressional delegation.

So yeah, BR, I care.

Admirable of you,, but let’s not confuse apples and oranges.

158 blueraven  Nov 15, 2014 12:48:09pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Given how badly Tammy Duckworth got hurt by Saddam Hussein’s thugs when they shot down her helo, the fact that she could get pregnant at all, much less at 41, is little short of a miracle in my eyes. So there’s that argument in her favor.

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

Then lastly, there’s the fact that Tammy Duckworth got her seat in Congress by defeating deadbeat dad, pathological liar, and all-around poisonous toad Joe Walsh. She’s from my state and she did every sane person in Illinois a favor in removing Walsh from our congressional delegation.

So yeah, BR, I care.

Good to see you have some empathy for pregnant women. However the premise of the article you linked to is still bogus.
The “evil” Pelosi slant is old and stale.

159 Kragar  Nov 15, 2014 12:48:50pm

re: #150 dholmes32

I’m waiting for Windows 9/10 (or whatever they’re going to call it) before buying a new desktop. And then I’ll hold off to see how it’s adopted. My employer (a TBTF bank) didn’t even attempt to adopt Vista and it looks like they’re skipping right over Win 8 as well.

We pretty much got her a bare bones system. When it gets here, I’ll swap her video card and RAM into the new box and toss her old hard drive in as a back up and she’ll be ready to go.

It was either the power supply or motherboard which died on her old box and I don’t have the time, money, or inclination to play the part swap game or hire someone else when I could just pay $250 and get a new system.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 12:49:06pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

I’ll give you this one.

Nancy fubar’d this one.

161 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:49:12pm

re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet you voted for Rauner. lol

lots of people in Illinois voted for him and also voted for Dick Durbin for the US Senate and a number of them also voted for Duckworth (I’m not in her district, but I did vote for Jan Schakowsky, who supported Duckworth’s motion.) The reason for the crossovers was because Pat Quinn is a failure as governor of Illinois, efuseakay. That’s why he lost, not because bigotry, or ‘go, team go’, but because he couldn’t do the job.

So yeah, you’re damn right I voted for Bruce Rauner and I’m proud of that vote!

162 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 12:49:46pm

re: #130 blueraven

Oh MFG

I tend to ignore most of his BS, but this is…I dont even

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I think Chuck may be attending this freak show: restorationweekend.org

Long ago, back in the time before time began, I was invited once to attend this as a guest of, believe it or not, Andrew Breitbart. Didn’t go. The few right wing events I attended really creeped me out, even back in those days of yesteryear.

163 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:50:36pm

re: #155 Kid A

Speaking of FAIL, dude, you linked to the Daily Fail. If you’re going to subject us to that Fox News with a British accent, can you do it via donotlink? Kthxbai.

Nope, the DM’s problems do not rise to the level of being an objectionable site.

164 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:53:03pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

With the usual suspects:

Governor Rick Perry, David Horowitz, Senator Jeff Sessions, Senator Ron Johnson, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Geert Wilders, Kimberly Strassel, Jim Bridenstine, Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, Stephen Moore, Andrew McCarthy, Michael Reagan, Bruce Thornton, Andrew Klavan, General David Fridovich, Larry Kawa, General William Boykin, James Carafano, Bill Whittle, Joel Gilbert, Cleta Mitchell, Daniel Greenfield, Thomas Lifson, Tom Fitton, Richard Baehr, Matt Kibbe, Edwin Black, Robert Spencer and Caroline Glick.

Hard to believe that the price of admission (from $1,750 for singles to a $20K “platinum” level are partially tax deductible. Or so they claim.

“Contributions are partially tax deductible as The David Horowitz Freedom Center is a 501 (c)3 non-profit foundation using an IRS event formula.”

165 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 12:53:09pm

Holy moley, look at this roster!

Governor Rick Perry, David Horowitz, Senator Jeff Sessions, Senator Ron Johnson, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Geert Wilders, Kimberly Strassel, Jim Bridenstine, Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, Stephen Moore, Andrew McCarthy, Michael Reagan, Bruce Thornton, Andrew Klavan, General David Fridovich, Larry Kawa, General William Boykin, James Carafano, Bill Whittle, Joel Gilbert, Cleta Mitchell, Daniel Greenfield, Thomas Lifson, Tom Fitton, Richard Baehr, Matt Kibbe, Edwin Black, Robert Spencer and Caroline Glick.

166 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 12:54:25pm

re: #165 Kid A

Holy moley, look at this roster!

I guess I should be glad I don’t know many of those people. Sounds like a derpy crowd.

167 goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2014 12:55:17pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

There’s also that I currently sell advertising for a magazine dealing with pregnancy and baby care. Just studying up on some of the issues I have to be able to speak to has made me care.

You know if you’re going to pretend to suddenly give a shit about the struggles of pregnancy and baby care you shouldn’t belong to a Party that blocks and opposes paid family leave.

168 dholmes32  Nov 15, 2014 12:55:47pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

I think Chuck may be attending this freak show: restorationweekend.org

Long ago, back in the time before time began, I was invited once to attend this as a guest of, believe it or not, Andrew Breitbart. Didn’t go. The few right wing events I attended really creeped me out, even back in those days of yesteryear.

I opened the page and the first thing I saw was “David Horowitz.” At that point, I was all RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY.

Video

169 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 12:56:16pm

re: #165 Kid A

It’s bad, all right. The ultimate far right get-together.

170 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 12:56:51pm

Restoration Weekend has been happening annually for a long time.

171 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 12:57:04pm

re: #168 dholmes32

I opened the page and the first thing I saw was “David Horowitz.” At that point, I was all RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY.

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Horowitz: A dickhead as a communist and still a dickhead as a conservative. He’s just a dick.

172 goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2014 12:57:11pm

re: #158 blueraven

Good to see you have some empathy for pregnant women. However the premise of the article you linked to is still bogus.
The “evil” Pelosi slant is old and stale.

That’s not empathy, that’s self interest. He sells advertising to a demographic so he thinks it’s important to cultivate a thin patina of ersatz concern about their issues.

173 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 12:57:27pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

It’s bad, all right. The ultimate far right get-together.

The only thing missing is Drunken Pam.

174 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:57:40pm

Hmm, well, harrumph.

Official: Suburban St. Louis school district will get early notice once the Ferguson grand jury reaches a decision - @csmonitor
read more on csmonitor.com

So they’re expecting no indictment?

175 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 12:57:51pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Go soak your head.

176 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 12:59:34pm

Uh oh.

177 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 12:59:36pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Restoration Weekend has been happening annually for a long time.

Why do they call it “restoration weekend”?

As far as I know, there have always been the fascist-minded in this country, but they’ve never really held power.

So, what’s to restore?

178 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 1:00:25pm

re: #165 Kid A

A bit disappointing to see Black in that company… but whatever.

179 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:00:38pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Why do they call it “restoration weekend”?

As far as I know, there have always been the fascist-minded in this country, but they’ve never really held power.

So, what’s to restore?

I was just thinking the same thing. Also, there is no “About” on the page.

180 Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2014 1:00:52pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

And why would those Republicans agree to such a provision in light of BP’s Deepwater Horizon disater?

Because they’re for sale, plus they really believe that if it’s good for (a) business it’s good for everybody.

181 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 1:01:02pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Why do they call it “restoration weekend”?

As far as I know, there have always been the fascist-minded in this country, but they’ve never really held power.

So, what’s to restore?

Their idea of America. And yes it is fascist sounding and I an glad that I am not the only one that thinks that,

182 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:01:29pm

re: #174 Justanotherhuman

Hmm, well, harrumph.

Official: Suburban St. Louis school district will get early notice once the Ferguson grand jury reaches a decision - @csmonitor
read more on csmonitor.com

So they’re expecting no indictment?

Not necessarily. There will be rallies no matter what the grand jury votes to do, the issue is how big and how hostile they’ll be. If, say, Darin Wilson is indicted for manslaughter, the protests will have an anger that would not exist if the charge was murder, but they would still be of a lesser intensity than if no indictment was made.

183 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 1:01:40pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

All right. Just took back my upding at #147.

184 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 1:03:36pm

re: #165 Kid A

It’s like a Who’s Who of Depraved Fucksticks—all in the same place at the same time.

185 ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2014 1:03:40pm

re: #138 Justanotherhuman

It’s still in the low ’40s here (I know, a lot “warmer” than some places), but it was in the 20s last night, and expected to be in the 20s several mornings next week.

This is 20 deg below our Nov averages. So, go away. : )

We have 2” of snow accumulation predicted for Early morning Monday. That is very unusual for central Ohio this time of the year.

What a way to get people acclimated to the driving conditions for another winter than a Monday morning wake up call. This part of Ohio has people that take a while to remember the white stuff can be slippery. They figure it out after a couple snows though.

It takes the SUV folks even longer to remember they are not a 4-wheel god.

186 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:03:44pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Not cool. Delete.

187 #FergusonFireside  Nov 15, 2014 1:05:15pm
188 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 1:05:35pm

re: #184 BeachDem

It’s like a Who’s Who of Depraved Fucksticks—all in the same place at the same time.

That’s what I describe CPAC and the Value Voters Summit as.

189 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:05:38pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

SNOW IN NOVEMBER??!! WHAT GLOBAL WARMING, LIBTARDS??!!11

190 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 1:05:41pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

I think you have a good point here but I also think we have a hella lot to consider. I’m too drunk to do that now. But we will talk about this later.

191 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:06:11pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Why do they call it “restoration weekend”?

As far as I know, there have always been the fascist-minded in this country, but they’ve never really held power.

So, what’s to restore?

Restoration of the spirits of the faithful by time away from normal concerns “In Good Company”, while hearing from some of the movement’s leaders and most visible media figures.

Note: That’s how Horowitz might define it, I’m not saying I would use that definition.

192 blueraven  Nov 15, 2014 1:06:24pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

That’s not empathy, that’s self interest. He sells advertising to a demographic so he thinks it’s important to cultivate a thin patina of ersatz concern about their issues.

I wont question his authenticity on this. The fact is, conservatives often care deeply about pregnant women and the fetus. It is after the baby is born they stop caring about the well being of mother and child.

My only real point is about the attempt to make Pelosi the scapegoat for a decision made by all, and one that is quite understandable.

193 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 1:06:35pm

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

Not necessarily. There will be rallies no matter what the grand jury votes to do, the issue is how big and how hostile they’ll be. If, say, Darin Wilson is indicted for manslaughter, the protests will have an anger that would not exist if the charge was murder, but they would still be of a lesser intensity than if no indictment was made.

So, you’re expecting “hostility”?

Even if he’s indicted for something?

How many years do you suppose the police have been hostile to every Black person they see?

You certainly don’t understand the undercurrent of racism existent in MO law enforcement.

194 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:07:12pm

re: #187 Resident of The United States of Jesus

Holy shit, my year has been made.

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 1:07:25pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

This goes to the idea we have a few levels to talk about, so I won’t play the down ding game. We will talk this through.

196 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 1:07:57pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

That’s what I describe CPAC and the Value Voters Summit as.

The right-wingers certainly do have a lot of these loony get-togethers, don’t they? Add in all the Tea Party gatherings and they could convene on a weekly basis to spread their ill-will and raving lunacy far and wide.

Oh, never mind—they already do that.

197 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:10:29pm

Let’s lighten up the mood a bit.

198 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:10:59pm

re: #186 Kid A

Not cool. Delete.

I’ll alter it, but not to something nice:

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Go soak your head.

That’s about as good as I can do, because his insult was pretty ugly.

199 Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2014 1:12:36pm

Restoration of more fake outrage until the 2016 election.

200 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 1:14:03pm

re: #199 Dr. Matt

Restoration of more fake outrage until the 2016 election.

Blah man in White House. Outrage.
Blah man leaves White House in 2017. Mornin’ in ‘Merica.

201 HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2014 1:14:34pm

re: #196 BeachDem

The right-wingers certainly do have a lot of these loony get-togethers, don’t they? Add in all the Tea Party gatherings and they could convene on a weekly basis to spread their ill-will and raving lunacy far and wide.

Oh, never mind—they already do that.

Yeah they have a lot of them. must get boring hearing the same old crap about how Obama is out to get them:

202 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 1:15:00pm

Sources: Militant group in Libya forces Internet companies to cut services in Tripoli - @AlArabiya_Eng
see original on twitter.com

203 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:15:57pm

re: #193 Justanotherhuman

So, you’re expecting “hostility”?

Even if he’s indicted for something?

How many years do you suppose the police have been hostile to every Black person they see?

You certainly don’t understand the undercurrent of racism existent in MO law enforcement.

Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying that the protestors will be unjustified in being angry and hostile. But just because someone is justified in being seriously ticked off doesn’t mean you should stick around while he’s very angry, even if he’s not mad at you. It’s often better to avoid him til he calms down.

The school district also knows the police may overreact, and so they don’t want their students trying to get home in the middle of a major confrontation.

204 Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2014 1:16:28pm

re: #165 Kid A

I am a bad person. My first thought on reading that roster was, “Nice of them to gather in the same place.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

205 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2014 1:16:31pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

lots of people in Illinois voted for him and also voted for Dick Durbin for the US Senate and a number of them also voted for Duckworth (I’m not in her district, but I did vote for Jan Schakowsky, who supported Duckworth’s motion.) The reason for the crossovers was because Pat Quinn is a failure as governor of Illinois, efuseakay. That’s why he lost, not because bigotry, or ‘go, team go’, but because he couldn’t do the job.

So yeah, you’re damn right I voted for Bruce Rauner and I’m proud of that vote!

See you back here in 2 years when he turns this state into a free-for-all-the-billionaires shitstorm.

206 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:18:31pm

re: #202 Justanotherhuman

Sources: Militant group in Libya forces Internet companies to cut services in Tripoli - @AlArabiya_Eng
see original on twitter.com

BENGHAZI!!!11

207 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 1:19:46pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Lot of democrats don’t want to admit this but IN THIS CASE I will argue that DF is correct.

208 PhillyPretzel  Nov 15, 2014 1:21:37pm

OT I have just finished loading OS X Yosemite. I had to turn off FaceTime and iMessage. So far it seems to be okay.

209 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 1:21:50pm

re: #186 Kid A

Not cool. Delete.

Why? I’m not going to argue DF is right but what he was responding to was not right either.

210 ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2014 1:22:00pm

re: #199 Dr. Matt

Restoration of more fake outrage until the 2016 election.

You can never have enough fake outrage.

Because there is usually nothing to it, you can keep feeding it to your base and they never get full…even asking for more please.

/

211 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:22:27pm

re: #209 William Barnett-Lewis

Why? I’m not going to argue DF is right but what he was responding to was not right either.

Leave it, Will. I already changed it.

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 15, 2014 1:24:04pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Leave it, Will. I already changed it.

Probably time to sleep then. I do work tonight.

So good night DF. I’ll harrass you when I’m up to it.

213 TedStriker  Nov 15, 2014 1:26:00pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

That’s not empathy, that’s self interest. He sells advertising to a demographic so he thinks it’s important to cultivate a thin patina of ersatz concern about their issues.

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Awww, looks like someone got their fee-fees hurt.

Dark, supposedly being a grown man, should know by now that choices, including the politicians we vote for, have consequences.

214 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:27:50pm

re: #213 TedStriker

Awww, looks like someone got their fee-fees hurt.

Dark, supposedly being a grown man, should know by now that choices, including the politicians we vote for, have consequences.

He insulted, so I told him off. Kid A asked me to delete my telling him off and so I toned the tell-off down. End of story.

215 sagehen  Nov 15, 2014 1:28:35pm

re: #122 blueraven

Bullshit. It is a rule for voting on house leadership. Another wanted to vote by proxy for attending a funeral. The one member who originally wanted to allow the proxy vote withdrew her request due to slippery slope.

Daily Fail

It’s a rule for voting on *anything*.

When ACA was in its final stages, Sen Byrd had to be driven to the capitol by ambulance, wheeled to the chamber in a hospital bed, attached to IVs, and then home as soon as he’d cast his vote…

If you’re not well enough to get there, you don’t get to vote. That’s just how Congress does things.

216 stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2014 1:28:42pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Keystone XL is not an example of destroying the US or Canada, either. But it will help stick it to Russia by driving down oil prices.

Russia is already screwed. We don’t need to f- up our environment just to stick it to Putin.

Apple now bigger than Russia’s stock market

217 Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2014 1:31:38pm

Just made reservations for the wife and I to go see the Arthur Miller play ‘An Enemy of the People’ tomorrow. It is being performed by our local college theater group. Last performance of the weekend. Should be fun.

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 1:32:56pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

He insulted, so I told him off. Kid A asked me to delete my telling him off and so I toned the tell-off down. End of story.

You could have responded like an adult and supporting your position by describing the GOP policies that support women.
Instead you went with knee-jerk “F-you”.

219 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 1:35:17pm

BBL

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 1:36:04pm

as usual…

221 TedStriker  Nov 15, 2014 1:36:07pm

re: #216 stpaulbear

Russia is already screwed. We don’t need to f- up our environment just to stick it to Putin.

Apple now bigger than Russia’s stock market

Vlad’s not gonna like this guy one bit:

“Apple works with shareholders to maximize returns and is based where property is protected by law,” Vadim Bit-Avragim, a portfolio manager at Kapital Asset Management in Moscow, told Bloomberg.
“In Russia, the legislative protection for property is not as good, most state-run companies have poor corporate governance, resources are concentrated in state hands and borrowing costs are shooting up. After all this, when you get involved in conflicts with your neighbours, it becomes very hard to persuade investors from all over the world to invest here.

Dude better beware of FSB agents bearing polonium pancakes…

222 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 1:38:40pm

re: #216 stpaulbear

Russia is already screwed. We don’t need to f- up our environment just to stick it to Putin.

Apple now bigger than Russia’s stock market

So, there’s another reason they took down the statue of the Iphone—not just because Tim Cook is gay.

Do people really care about your politics, religion, criminal history, or sexual orientation as long as you’re making them money?

Or maybe that’s just my cynicism kicking in?

224 ramex  Nov 15, 2014 1:43:58pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s also my home town.

225 stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2014 1:45:02pm

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

Oops. Spent too long finding the article…

There are people that hate the geh more than they like the money. The bakers that refuse to make a same-sex wedding cake come to mind.

226 TedStriker  Nov 15, 2014 1:47:53pm

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

So, there’s another reason they took down the statue of the Iphone—not just because Tim Cook is gay.

Do people really care about your politics, religion, criminal history, or sexual orientation as long as you’re making them money?

Or maybe that’s just my cynicism kicking in?

When one American company’s market cap eclipses your whole country’s, there’s gotta be some feelings of inadequacy amongst the he-men in the Russian government, especially Putin.

That that one American company has a gay man at the helm has got them all apoplectic and foaming at the mouth, I’m sure.

227 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 1:48:44pm

re: #223 stpaulbear

Going whole hog on an anti-gay campaign doesn’t help them much either.

Residents of Saint Petersburg have reportedly torn down a giant interactive iPhone memorial that commemorated the death of Apple founder Steve Jobs after the company’s current CEO, Tim Cook, came out as gay on Thursday.

The Russian Orthodox Church plays a huge role in this, too.

The Orthodox Church’s role in Russia’s anti-gay laws

ncronline.org

“The patriarch believes that the recognition of same-sex unions by Western countries is a harbinger of impending of doom. In July, Russia Today reported that after a liturgy in Red Square’s Kazan Cathedral, Kirill said, “This is a very dangerous apocalyptic symptom, and we must do everything in our powers to ensure that sin is never sanctioned in Russia by state law, because that would mean that the nation has embarked on a path of self-destruction.”

“Kirill called on Russians to “fight for freedom from sins,” saying, “Where sin is elected through freedom, there comes death, terror and dictatorship.”

Putin reportedly has been strengthening his alliances with the Russian Orthodox Church in the past few years.” More

228 Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2014 1:52:41pm

Does the GOP allow proxy votes from bathroom stalls or from members skipping along the Appalation trail ?

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 1:58:10pm

It’s somewhat remarkable.
My oldest dog (the Jack Russell Terror) is the only member of the current inside furry family who was here when our last two epileptic dogs shared the house.
While the rest of the group is in hiding while this scariness is happening, the JRT wants to be the comforter as she goes to check on Doorframe every 15 minutes or so, sits there with him…

230 bill d  Nov 15, 2014 1:58:43pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

I think Chuck may be attending this freak show: restorationweekend.org

Long ago, back in the time before time began, I was invited once to attend this as a guest of, believe it or not, Andrew Breitbart. Didn’t go. The few right wing events I attended really creeped me out, even back in those days of yesteryear.

Governor Rick Perry, David Horowitz, Senator Jeff Sessions, Senator Ron Johnson, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Geert Wilders, Kimberly Strassel, Jim Bridenstine, Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, Stephen Moore, Andrew McCarthy, Michael Reagan, Bruce Thornton, Andrew Klavan, General David Fridovich, Larry Kawa, General William Boykin, James Carafano, Bill Whittle, Joel Gilbert, Cleta Mitchell, Daniel Greenfield, Thomas Lifson, Tom Fitton, Richard Baehr, Matt Kibbe, Edwin Black, Robert Spencer and Caroline Glick.

How come Chuck is sitting in the audience and not on that lineup of distinguished crazy people?

231 prairiefire  Nov 15, 2014 2:02:47pm

I’m swearing off of all other political discussions except for the ones here. It’s getting crazy out there, folks!

232 PhillyPretzel  Nov 15, 2014 2:03:36pm

re: #231 prairiefire

It has been crazy for many years but now it is going into overdrive.

233 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 2:03:58pm

re: #225 stpaulbear

Oops. Spent too long finding the article…

There are people that hate the geh more than they like the money. The bakers that refuse to make a same-sex wedding cake come to mind.

Well, true enough.

I’m old enough to remember Jim Crow, and the legislation passed after the sit-ins of the ’60s.

When merchants were finally convinced that the money of Black people was just as green as their own and brought in more profits, they changed their tune about their goods and services, albeit under civil rights legislation. Doesn’t mean they fully accepted it and gave them the same goods and services, but progress in racial relations has been extremely slow. Even today, you don’t find very many Black businesses that are widely accepted outside the Black community, at least in the South.

A lot of white Americans still prefer Blacks doing a modern version of the minstrel show to earn a living, in sports and entertainment. Too many whites refuse to believe that Blacks are as intelligent as whites are—and furthermore are not as educable.

They’d have you think only white people make up the human race.

234 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 2:11:50pm

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

So, there’s another reason they took down the statue of the Iphone—not just because Tim Cook is gay.

Not really, though I also joked about it this way.
Nevertheless, every deputy and official has an iPhone and an iPad, no matter what they are saying.

235 BeachDem  Nov 15, 2014 2:12:47pm

re: #215 sagehen

It’s a rule for voting on *anything*.

When ACA was in its final stages, Sen Byrd had to be driven to the capitol by ambulance, wheeled to the chamber in a hospital bed, attached to IVs, and then home as soon as he’d cast his vote…

If you’re not well enough to get there, you don’t get to vote. That’s just how Congress does things.

If they allowed proxy voting on real votes, the House fuckers would abandon DC completely. They barely work now as it is (113 days in 2014.)

This particularly nontroversy, however, was about a Democratic caucus rule.

236 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 2:13:09pm

re: #225 stpaulbear

Oops. Spent too long finding the article…

There are people that hate the geh more than they like the money. The bakers that refuse to make a same-sex wedding cake come to mind.

The bakers belong to the same mindset that were refusing to fill prescriptions for the “morning after” pills, too.

Theocratic assholes.

237 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 2:13:20pm

re: #230 bill d

How come Chuck is sitting in the audience and not on that lineup of distinguished crazy people?

He’s like that guy who took the last place in the loser contest.

238 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 15, 2014 2:15:36pm

re: #227 Justanotherhuman

The so-called “Russian Orthodox Church” has morphed from a KGB church into a full-blown theocratic criminal sect.

239 Justanotherhuman  Nov 15, 2014 2:19:33pm

re: #238 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The so-called “Russian Orthodox Church” has morphed from a KGB church into a full-blown theocratic criminal sect.

Yes, I’ve often wondered why Pooty was so cozy w/Kirill. The two Vlads.

240 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 2:24:45pm
241 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 2:26:39pm

re: #230 bill d

How come Chuck is sitting in the audience and not on that lineup of distinguished crazy people?

He’s too young and too new. Chuckles asked for a speaker spot, said he’d pay his own way, and in reply Horowitz told Chuckles to get off his lawn.

242 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Nov 15, 2014 2:27:06pm

re: #224 ramex

Mine too.

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 2:27:31pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

no.
Thank you, but, no.

244 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 2:28:01pm
245 PhillyPretzel  Nov 15, 2014 2:28:59pm

re: #244 Kid A

Oy Vey. This is giving gun owners a very bad name.

246 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 2:31:27pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

He’s very pleasant.
//
vid.me

247 Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2014 2:32:28pm

Anonymous is doxing KKK members:

alan.com

248 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 2:33:56pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

Oy Vey. This is giving gun owners a very bad name.

He has his hands on the triggers of two guns at the same time, and that sometimes doesn’t end well. It’s also grossly irresponsible. He also wears a bejeweled cross and there’s an American flag in the background, which means that upon seeing the photo Jesus and Uncle Sam did this:

249 Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2014 2:34:04pm

re: #227 Justanotherhuman

The Russian Orthodox Church plays a huge role in this, too.

The Orthodox Church’s role in Russia’s anti-gay laws

ncronline.org“Kirill called on Russians to “fight for freedom from sins,” saying, “Where sin is elected through freedom, there comes death, terror and dictatorship.”

Russia must be awfully sinful then. They’re practically restoring the Romanov system.

I’m still sure that Vlad has his crown picked out.

250 Kid A  Nov 15, 2014 2:35:08pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Guns, Jesus and America. What’s wrong with that?
/

251 Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2014 2:36:00pm

re: #230 bill d

How come Chuck is sitting in the audience and not on that lineup of distinguished crazy people?

Chuck isn’t distinguished yet. This time next year for sure. In that crowd distinguished follows crazy as sure as night follows day.

252 #FergusonFireside  Nov 15, 2014 2:36:13pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

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mmmmmm.

I think I’m going to make my roast cumin lime chicken tonight.

253 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2014 2:37:51pm

re: #250 Kid A

Guns, Jesus and America. What’s wrong with that?
/

missing certain “country” music.
and ducks…

254 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 2:40:24pm

Moved to next thread.

255 Dark_Falcon  Nov 15, 2014 2:41:32pm

re: #250 Kid A

Guns, Jesus and America. What’s wrong with that?
/

Nothing, but the post could use an upding.

256 palomino  Nov 15, 2014 2:59:03pm

re: #15 Kid A

So Dim is calling Brown an 18-year-old rapper now? LOL

Because even he knows you can’t use the word “ni**er” on a Jesus-loving family friendly blog like his. So he goes for the dog whistle synonym. Better than thug, because that’s often associated with whites, especially if they’re in a union. Better than urban, cuz that could mean some other type of minority. But rappers are all black to Hoft’s audience. So, mission accomplished.

257 palomino  Nov 15, 2014 3:06:36pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

You search long and hard for MBFs, and then post them regardless of how off point they are. You’re always looking for the square peg as a counterbalance to the round one. And, if it’s not there, you just imagine it into existence by finding something very remotely related. Really kind of pathetic. Such narrow dualistic thinking: that there must be some offense by the other party that you can use to erase the depravity of your own.

258 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 4:55:02pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

So what do you feel Pelosi should have done? Carved a special exemption into rules regarding votes so she could submit a proxy vote while all other Democrats had to be in person to cast their vote? You do understand that would not have stopped others from submitting their own excuses, such as the already mentioned Congresswoman who is attending a funeral, in order to submit votes, right? And what of the criticism that she would receive for allowing proxy votes when Congress has forbidden such since its creation, a situation that both parties have exploited in the past to pass bills in absence of the other party’s members?

Not to mention that if Pelosi was chairing that meeting she, by rule, theory, and tradition, should not have been or gotten involved. The Chair is running the system to allow for equal say - not tyrannically driving and favoring particular motions.

259 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 15, 2014 4:58:52pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Why do they call it “restoration weekend”?

As far as I know, there have always been the fascist-minded in this country, but they’ve never really held power.

So, what’s to restore?

Minorities, immigrants, and women back to their proper place?
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