A Timelapse of the Surface of the Sun in Stunning 4K Video

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One of the most amazing videos I’ve seen this year is this absolutely stunning timelapse of the wildest frontier, the surface of our Sun, composed of images taken by the Solar Dynamics Observatory. What you’re looking at is actually a gigantic self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction. The center of our solar system is not a very peaceful place.

If you’re lucky enough to have a large Retina or other high resolution display, check out the 4K version in full screen mode — the detail is mind-blowing.

(h/t: Randall Gross.)

The surface of the sun from October 14th to 30th, 2014, showing sunspot AR 2192, the largest sunspot of the last two solar cycles (22 years). During this time sunspot AR 2191 produced six X-class and four M-class solar flares. The animation shows the sun in the ultraviolet 304 ångström wavelength, and plays at a rate of 52.5 minutes per second. It is composed of more than 17,000 images, 72 GB of data produced by the solar dynamics observatory (http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/) + (http://www.helioviewer.org/). This animation has been rendered in 4K, and resized to the Youtube maximum resolution of 3840×2160. The animation has been rotated 180 degrees so that south is “up”. The audio is the ‘heartbeat’ of the sun, processed from SOHO HMI data by Alexander G. Kosovichev. Image data courtesy of NASA/SDO and the AIA, EVE, and HMI science teams.”Image processing and animation by James Tyrwhitt-Drake. To use this video in a commercial player or in broadcasts, please email licensing@storyful.com

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391 comments
1 Randall Gross  Nov 16, 2014 5:49:01pm

You really do need to watch this large screen with 4k enabled, it’s amazing.

2 Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2014 5:51:42pm
3 Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2014 5:53:16pm

re: #1 Randall Gross

Unless you have a high res display though, you won’t see much difference between the 4K version and the 1080p version.

4 Justanotherhuman  Nov 16, 2014 5:53:26pm

Absolutely fascinating!

5 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 16, 2014 5:55:30pm

Ahhh. Reminds me of the San Fernando Valley in July and August.

6 Kragar  Nov 16, 2014 5:56:07pm

And to think, the Sun is only around 5000 years old.
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7 Justanotherhuman  Nov 16, 2014 5:58:21pm

re: #6 Kragar

And to think, the Sun is only around 5000 years old.
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The same ones who would probably try to pull an Icarus.

8 Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2014 6:00:12pm

Didn’t get a chance to say this earlier when I got back home, but I implore my fellow lizards to go see Big Hero 6.

9 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:00:30pm

Something is missing from this illustration==>

10 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 6:01:31pm

Youtube Video

Why Does The Sun Shine? (The Sun Is A Mass Of Incandescent Gas) by They Might Be Giants

The sun is mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees
Yo ho it’s hot, the sun is not a place where we could live
But here on earth there’d be no life without the light it gives
We need its light, we need its heat, we need its energy
Without the sun, without a doubt, there’d be no you and me
The sun is mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees
The sun is hot
It is so hot that everything on it is a gas
Iron, copper, aluminum and many others
The sun is large
If the sun were hollow, a million earths could fit inside
And yet the sun is still only a middle-sized star
The sun is far away
About 93,000,000 miles away, and that’s why it looks so small
And even when it’s out of sight, the sun shines night and day
The sun gives heat, the sun gives light, the sunlight that we see
The sunlight comes from our own sun’s atomic energy
Scientists have found that the sun is a huge atom-smashing machine
The heat and light of the sun come from the nuclear reactions
Of hydrogen,carbon, nitrogen and helium
The sun is mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees
Songwriters: HY ZARET, LOU SINGER
Why Does The Sun Shine lyrics © HELENE BLUE MUSIQUE LTD OBO ARGOSY MUSIC CORP

11 Kragar  Nov 16, 2014 6:02:09pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Didn’t get a chance to say this earlier when I got back home, but I implore my fellow lizards to go see Big Hero 6.

Saw it with the kids this morning.

“WHY DID YOU STOP?”
“THE LIGHT IS RED!”

12 Justanotherhuman  Nov 16, 2014 6:02:33pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards!

Time for Worricker, so later. : )

13 Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2014 6:03:40pm

re: #11 Kragar

Saw it with the kids this morning.

“WHY DID YOU STOP?”
“THE LIGHT IS RED!”

Did you stay for the post-credits scene?

14 Belafon  Nov 16, 2014 6:04:47pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Ready for a sequel.

15 #FergusonFireside  Nov 16, 2014 6:06:07pm

Related

16 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 6:06:31pm

re: #15 Resident of The United States of Jesus

Florida, man.

17 Kragar  Nov 16, 2014 6:07:16pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Did you stay for the post-credits scene?

We stayed thru the first part, but left when they started to roll thru them again. We’ll catch it when the DVD comes out.

18 Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2014 6:07:30pm

re: #15 Resident of The United States of Jesus

Related

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“Hold my beer and watch this…”

19 Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2014 6:08:02pm
20 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:12:08pm

re: #9 Vicious Piebola

Yeah, the other people on the oil side. Because it isn’t just rich fat cats who support oil exploration and production.

21 Varek Raith  Nov 16, 2014 6:13:25pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Youtube Video

22 allegro  Nov 16, 2014 6:13:59pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, the other people on the oil side. Because it isn’t just rich fat cats who support oil exploration and production.

True. There are reality and science denying numbnuts who believe the fat cats and vote against their own, and their children’s, best interests.

23 Varek Raith  Nov 16, 2014 6:15:40pm

Anonymous responds to KKK’s twitter taunts by hacking, taking over their account

…the Klan taunted the hacker group on Sunday only to see Anonymous take over their Twitter account two hours later.

24 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:17:21pm

re: #22 allegro

True. There are reality and science denying numbnuts who believe the fat cats and vote against their own, and their children’s, best interests.

What I noticed is there are no people of color on the “Green” side, even though Asia and Africa are more severely impacted by climate change than North America and Europe.

25 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:18:48pm

re: #22 allegro

True. There are reality and science denying numbnuts who believe the fat cats and vote against their own, and their children’s, best interests.

There are also people who are employed in oil exploration and production or in closely related jobs, as well as those who see increased oil production lowering the price of oil, bring cheaper gasoline and diesel fuel to the US and cutting into the oil profits of those who oppose us.

26 allegro  Nov 16, 2014 6:22:21pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

There are also people who are employed in oil exploration and production or in closely related jobs, as well as those who see increased oil production lowering the price of oil, bring cheaper gasoline and diesel fuel to the US and cutting into the oil profits of those who oppose us.

And those people are selling their futures for a buck now. Blind and stupid, as it were. The tribal thing is even more pointless.

27 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 6:27:19pm

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28 Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2014 6:28:12pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

There are also people who are employed in oil exploration and production or in closely related jobs, as well as those who see increased oil production lowering the price of oil, bring cheaper gasoline and diesel fuel to the US and cutting into the oil profits of those who oppose us.

And I’m sure there were plenty of people who lost their jobs when the automobile replaced the horse and buggy.

29 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 6:30:57pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

And I’m sure there were plenty of people who lost their jobs when the automobile replaced the horse and buggy.

Wheelwrights were never the same.

30 allegro  Nov 16, 2014 6:33:09pm

re: #29 freetoken

Wheelwrights were never the same.

There are still a few farriers around though.

31 Kragar  Nov 16, 2014 6:34:38pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

And I’m sure there were plenty of people who lost their jobs when the automobile replaced the horse and buggy.

“Regulations kill business!”

Except that makes no sense once you realize people can get jobs providing the goods and services necessary to enact, maintain and supervise the regulations.

32 ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2014 6:35:10pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

There are also people who are employed in oil exploration and production or in closely related jobs, as well as those who see increased oil production lowering the price of oil, bring cheaper gasoline and diesel fuel to the US and cutting into the oil profits of those who oppose us.

Dark, I get the impression you think like a cold warrior.

I think the game board has grown more detailed with many more players and pieces to move around. And with energy, it is damn hard to tell who has more control over oil. Is it the countries on the maps or BP, Shell, Exon, Chevron?

You put a stop on a country and their supply and you get a call from someone corporate in your own country or one of your allies.

33 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:35:11pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

And I’m sure there were plenty of people who lost their jobs when the automobile replaced the horse and buggy.

100 years ago, industry was not as specialized as it is today. There were no “buggy whip” specialists, just manufacturers of a variety of leather products.

34 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 6:35:59pm

I can’t seem to find anyone willing to take the job of running in front of my automobile with a red warning lantern.

35 PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2014 6:36:46pm

My MacBook Pro has been updated to Yosemite. There are some differences. One is I have to sign in when I turn my computer. I have not done that in a couple of years. All my information is now encrypted. The look of the icons has changed a little. There are tiny dots under each program that is running. If you using Safari and Finder at the same time each one has a dot underneath the icon. And of course I backed up the new changes.

36 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:37:50pm

re: #31 Kragar

“Regulations kill business!”

Except that makes no sense once you realize people can get jobs providing the goods and services necessary to enact, maintain and supervise the regulations.

Regulations kill businesses when they are unneeded, excessive, or are poorly written and/or enforced. Some regulations are needed and sometimes some more are desirable, but the trick is making sure they don’t go overboard.

As with most things, its about striking the balance.

37 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 6:38:09pm

I wonder, at times, how much our intra-cultural warfare is due to learned responses (culture) and what portion might represent innate (genetic) differences among humans.

There is a bit of research on decision making under stress, the ability to cope with change, and various alleles having to do with brain chemistry.

Some people are just more willing to deal with change than others.

My inner-armchair anthropologist would like to go in a time machine and speed ahead 5000 years and see how our society works out, what survives and what doesn’t.

38 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 6:39:10pm

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

I’m still on 10.6.8 and I have the “dots”, though I think I prefer the older triangles to denote the running apps.

39 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:40:05pm

re: #33 Vicious Piebola

100 years ago, industry was not as specialized as it is today. There were no “buggy whip” specialists, just manufacturers of a variety of leather products.

And the automobile helped lead to that specialization, interestingly enough. Though at the same time it gave a great boost to commerce and personal mobility.

40 Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2014 6:40:33pm
41 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:40:44pm

re: #37 freetoken

I wonder, at times, how much our intra-cultural warfare is due to learned responses (culture) and what portion might represent innate (genetic) differences among humans.

There is a bit of research on decision making under stress, the ability to cope with change, and various alleles having to do with brain chemistry.

Some people are just more willing to deal with change than others.

My inner-armchair anthropologist would like to go in a time machine and speed ahead 5000 years and see how our society works out, what survives and what doesn’t.

Watch out for the Morlocks.

42 PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2014 6:40:46pm

re: #38 freetoken

That is okay. I am getting used to this new version. :)

43 Belafon  Nov 16, 2014 6:41:14pm

re: #31 Kragar

“Regulations kill business!”

Except that makes no sense once you realize people can get jobs providing the goods and services necessary to enact, maintain and supervise the regulations.

I say we eliminate contract enforcement between companies first.

45 darthstar  Nov 16, 2014 6:42:10pm

Okay, that hot-spot on the right shoots out some pretty impressive flames - especially when you consider they’re probably four or five times larger than the earth.

46 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 6:42:19pm

One of the interesting things in recent human evolution is the wild success the farmers have had in running over the hunter-gatherers. In Eurasia, and Africa, and then finally in the Americas, the farmers have been amazingly successful in multiplying.

A few genetic changes, an invention here and there, and the whole world is different.

47 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:42:42pm

This is the Stupidest Thing Ever Said On Twitter All Day==>

48 Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2014 6:42:47pm

re: #44 Varek Raith

Quote of the Day: TransCanada CEO Says Keystone Will Create 50 ‘Actual Operational Jobs’

And provide job security for at least as many Southern Democrats in Congress.

49 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 6:44:23pm

re: #47 Vicious Piebola

Add a Double-Down:

50 Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2014 6:44:29pm
51 PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2014 6:44:57pm

re: #47 Vicious Piebola

Yes it is the stupidest remark I have seen all day.

52 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 6:45:19pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Vlaams Belang, still pissed.

53 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:46:26pm

re: #49 jaunte

Add a Double-Down:

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That lady’s so smug she probably loves the smell of her own farts.

54 Belafon  Nov 16, 2014 6:47:18pm

re: #47 Vicious Piebola

Someone needs to revoke her body privileges. She’s obviously a danger to herself.

55 allegro  Nov 16, 2014 6:50:09pm

re: #47 Vicious Piebola

So does she think she’s eating baby chicks for breakfast? How cruel!

56 darthstar  Nov 16, 2014 6:50:48pm

re: #49 jaunte

Add a Double-Down:

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She’s being ironic, I believe.

57 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:51:18pm

re: #54 Belafon

Someone needs to revoke her body privileges. She’s obviously a danger to herself.

58 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:54:05pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

That lady’s so smug she probably loves the smell of her own farts.

re: #54 Belafon

Someone needs to revoke her body privileges. She’s obviously a danger to herself.

Who says that’s an actual woman? Could be a dudebro.

59 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 16, 2014 6:54:39pm

Remember nobody on the Internet is who you think they are.

60 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 6:55:43pm

Sigh…

Muslims ‘discovered Americas 300 years before Columbus’

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is claiming that Muslim sailors reached the Americas more than 300 years before explorer Christopher Columbus.

Speaking at a gathering of Muslim leaders from Latin America, Erdogan said that contact between Islam and Latin America dates to the 12th century.

“It is alleged that the American continent was discovered by Columbus in 1492,” Erdogan said. “In fact, Muslim sailors reached the American continent 314 years before Columbus, in 1178.”

“In his memoirs, Christopher Columbus mentions the existence of a mosque atop a hill on the coast of Cuba,” Erdogan said, adding that he’d like to see a mosque built on the hilltop today.

Scholars have disputed the claim in Columbus’ writings, saying there is no archaeological evidence of Muslims having lived in the Americas before Columbus, an Italian, made his expedition in 1492 on behalf of the Spanish crown.

Who discovered the Americas has long been a controversial issue with various scholars and historians claiming that others arrived before Columbus.

[…]

People claim all sorts of things, often to make up for their own shortcomings and insecurities.

The only non-Northeast Asians (ancestors of Native Americans) who made it the (sub-arctic) Americas, for which evidence exists, are:

1) Norse, who briefly had an outpost on the extreme east side of Canada and then pulled back to Iceland;
2) possibly Pacific Islanders who rafted to Peru shortly before European contact, but the evidence is ambiguous.

61 Single-handed sailor  Nov 16, 2014 6:56:36pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Only a bloody Dutchman! There are only two things I can’t stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures… and the Dutch.

62 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 6:59:25pm

re: #60 freetoken

Sigh…

Muslims ‘discovered Americas 300 years before Columbus’

People claim all sorts of things, often to make up for their own shortcomings and insecurities.

The only non-Northeast Asians (ancestors of Native Americans) who made it the (sub-arctic) Americas, for which evidence exists, are:

1) Norse, who briefly had an outpost on the extreme east side of Canada and then pulled back to Iceland;
2) possibly Pacific Islanders who rafted to Peru shortly before European contact, but the evidence is ambiguous.

He’s not really interested in science. Erdogan is sending a message that he regards the Muslim world as superior to the West.

63 Belafon  Nov 16, 2014 7:00:04pm

re: #58 Vicious Piebola

I thought about that. But it’s way more boring if it’s some right wing guy saying that.

64 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 7:01:02pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Turkey has been on the long, slow path to de-secularize for some time now. It’s quite a backwards move, and in the end the lust of Turkish leaders to stay in power will lead them to be enticed to use religion to manipulate people.

And we all know how that ends up.

65 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 7:01:48pm

re: #60 freetoken

“…Remarking on the position of the river and port, to which he gave the name of San Salvador, he describes its mountains as lofty and beautiful, like the Pena de las Enamoradas, and one of them has another little hill on its summit, like a graceful mosque.”
mith.umd.edu

66 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 7:02:36pm
67 Belafon  Nov 16, 2014 7:04:51pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

I work at a defense contractor, and we’re getting a new coke machine that allows you to swipe your phone to buy drinks. And the software is written by ISIS.

68 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 7:05:52pm

Religion and power and war - always seem to go together:

Air Force Mutes Prohibitions Against Proselytism

69 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 16, 2014 7:17:11pm

So, this will work fine with my copy of Netscape Navigator? Did you take cake of the issues with Mosiac?

RBS

70 Kragar  Nov 16, 2014 7:17:16pm

re: #68 freetoken

Religion and power and war - always seem to go together:

Air Force Mutes Prohibitions Against Proselytism

Glad to hear the Air Force has no problems with service members converting their fellow troops to Satanism, Wiccanism or worship of the Great Old Ones.

71 Tsuga  Nov 16, 2014 7:18:03pm
What you’re looking at is actually a gigantic self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction.

Actually, that fusion reaction is hidden deep inside, plus the light given off by that reaction is in the gamma ray band of the electromagnetic spectrum. What we’re seeing in the video, or whenever we view the sun, is the result of that gamma radiation spending thousands of years getting from that reaction out to the surface of the sun. Along the way it’s been absorbed and re-emitted by countless atomic nuclei while slowly losing energy, thus dropping its frequency into the visible range (and adjacent bands we can’t effectively see like UV and infrared).

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2014 7:18:45pm
73 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 16, 2014 7:22:47pm

re: #69 RealityBasedEbola

So, this will work fine with my copy of Netscape Navigator? Did you take cake of the issues with Mosiac?

RBS

74 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 7:37:58pm

CHICKENS

75 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 7:39:14pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

CHICKENS

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That tweet is quite fowl.

76 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 16, 2014 7:42:00pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

My favorite chicken….

77 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 7:42:25pm

This bathing suit looks awfully constrictive and uncomfortable.

78 Varek Raith  Nov 16, 2014 7:42:40pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

That tweet is quite fowl.

Go sit in the corner.

79 Kid A  Nov 16, 2014 7:48:00pm

That might be the funniest damned touchdown celebration I have ever seen.

80 Snarknado!  Nov 16, 2014 7:50:16pm

re: #60 freetoken

Sigh…

Muslims ‘discovered Americas 300 years before Columbus’

People claim all sorts of things, often to make up for their own shortcomings and insecurities.

The only non-Northeast Asians (ancestors of Native Americans) who made it the (sub-arctic) Americas, for which evidence exists, are:

1) Norse, who briefly had an outpost on the extreme east side of Canada and then pulled back to Iceland;
2) possibly Pacific Islanders who rafted to Peru shortly before European contact, but the evidence is ambiguous.

The Pacific Islanders brought yams with them (or sweet potatoes?) when they left, I believe, so that’s pretty well established. But the various Muslim peoples didn’t visit (unless the Pacific Islanders had a Muslim with them, which isn’t impossible).

81 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 16, 2014 7:56:41pm
82 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 7:57:49pm

re: #76 Indy GOP Refugee

Glad you’re here. I was waiting to give you this before I signed off for the night:

Larry Sand
Deasy’s Defeat
Another superintendent is beaten by the too-big-to-reform L.A. school district.

John Deasy is a blunt man with little use for nuance. At times, the superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District seems to enjoy getting in people’s faces. As Doug McIntyre observed in the Los Angeles Daily News, “Even Deasy’s supporters acknowledge he can be prickly, humorless, stubborn and thin-skinned.” Others describe him as bull-headed and impatient. School board member Steve Zimmer observes that Deasy often used a sledgehammer—sometimes joyfully so—when a scalpel would have sufficed. Deasy’s deficit of politesse drew the ire of the teachers’ union from the beginning of his three-and-a-half year tenure and eventually cost him friends and allies on the board. Sensing his days in Los Angeles were numbered, he tendered his resignation on October 16.

Deasy’s record is mixed. He had some success in bringing teacher evaluations into the twenty-first century. He championed charter schools. He supported California’s parent-trigger law, which empowers parents at an underperforming school to force a change of governance. After the Miramonte Elementary School sexual-abuse case in 2012, Deasy enacted a zero-tolerance policy that led to the dismissal of more than 100 teachers for misconduct and the resignation of about 200 others in lieu of termination. He also testified on behalf of the plaintiffs in Vergara v. California, the class-action lawsuit in which Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Rolf Treu ruled that the state’s archaic seniority, tenure, and dismissal statutes were unconstitutional.

Reformers give Deasy credit for the district’s improved test results. Even though test scores did go up somewhat under his tenure, it’s difficult to attribute that improvement to Deasy. A recent Brookings Institution study found that superintendents on average account for just “0.3 percent of differences in student achievement.” Deasy’s supporters also say he reduced the district’s dropout rate, but their argument relies on some fuzzy math. In April 2013, LAUSD reported a 66 percent graduation rate. Last month, the district proudly announced its graduation rate had improved to 77 percent. That higher rate was made possible by excluding students in “alternative schools”—where the graduation rates can be as low as 5 percent—and so-called “invisible dropouts,” who leave during or after middle school. They don’t count as high school dropouts because they never dropped in.

83 Dark_Falcon  Nov 16, 2014 7:58:21pm

Good Night, All.

84 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 16, 2014 8:02:18pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Thanks. I should mention in a rare instance of clarity, LAUSD did fire the civil attorney that argued a 14 year old girl was partly responsible for a serial sexual affair with a male teacher who was convicted of the crime.

85 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 16, 2014 8:12:41pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

NFL spokesman
“We have never ignored evidence of head injury.”

In other news the check is in the mail,

86 nines09  Nov 16, 2014 8:13:28pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

“So. Did the helmet pass the test?” Yes, but.. “Yes but what? It passed, right?!? We’re good, right?” Well, the helmet passed with flying colors. “And?” Well, the human neck did not. Our tester is now in the hospital.

87 nines09  Nov 16, 2014 8:16:45pm

re: #85 Indy GOP Refugee

NFL spokesman
“We have never ignored evidence of head injury.”

In other news the check is in the mail,

And who the hell was talking about that we was talking football..

88 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 16, 2014 8:22:10pm

re: #85 Indy GOP Refugee

NFL spokesman
“We have never ignored evidence of head injury.”

In other news the check is in the mail,

He’s right, it wasn’t ignored, they just told the players to “suck it up and get back in the game!”

89 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 8:25:08pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s right, it wasn’t ignored, they just told the players to “suck it up and get back in the game!”

For the concussion exam it’s gone from ‘How many fingers am I holding up?’ to, well, I guess a lot more cautious protocol.

Still, Cracked summed it up today. The NFL is bad, not good.

90 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 16, 2014 8:32:52pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

For the concussion exam it’s gone from ‘How many fingers am I holding up?’ to, well, I guess a lot more cautious protocol.

Still, Cracked summed it up today. The NFL is bad, not good.

Heh. Well done. As in cooked.

91 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 8:33:12pm
92 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 8:36:39pm

jaunte, you retweeted this earlier. And it’s past bedtime for kids and such in most of the United States right now. So, I borrowed a @robdelaney hashtag and tweeted

93 Thor Heyerdahl  Nov 16, 2014 8:41:11pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners.

Video

94 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 8:45:14pm

Conservatives may bemoan the size of our government; in reality, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, total tax revenues in the United States this year will be smaller on a relative basis than those of any other member country.

95 goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2014 9:03:23pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Mental Hellth?

96 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 16, 2014 9:04:24pm
97 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 9:06:48pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Mental Hellth?

Don’t ask me, man. I have no clue.

LGF peeps are pretty well versed in shopped photos. What y’all think?

98 Lidane  Nov 16, 2014 9:06:52pm

“I’ve worn the same suit on air for a year - except for a couple of times because of circumstance - to make a point,” he told The Age.

“I’m judged on my interviews, my appalling sense of humour - on how I do my job, basically. Whereas women are quite often judged on what they’re wearing or how their hair is … that’s [what I wanted to test].”

99 jaunte  Nov 16, 2014 9:10:54pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

It’s “The American Challenge.”
addictinginfo.org

muckrack.com

100 Lidane  Nov 16, 2014 9:11:31pm
101 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 9:14:17pm

re: #99 jaunte

Ah, yes. Thanks for the info.

102 Amory Blaine  Nov 16, 2014 9:33:08pm

Looks great in 2.5k too.

103 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 9:54:14pm

A few interesting items in tonight’s dump of PRs:

Racial disparities in ear infection treatment may contribute to antibiotic overuse

Black children are less likely to be diagnosed with and less likely to receive broad-spectrum antibiotics for ear infections than white children are, a new study has found. But the discrepancy in prescribing fewer broad-spectrum antibiotics means black children actually are more likely to receive care that aligns with the recommended guidelines for treating ear infections.

Two explanations for the observed disparities in care are overtreatment and overdiagnosis in white children, and undertreatment and underdiagnosis in black children. Addressing behaviors that contribute to these findings may cut down on differential care and antibiotic overuse, both significant public health concerns.

Led by researchers at the University of Utah, Emory University, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the study appears in Pediatrics online on Nov. 17, 2014.

“These findings raise the possibility that physicians bring with them to the exam room cultural and racial biases that influence how they make a diagnosis and prescribe antibiotics,” says senior author Adam Hersh, M.D., Ph.D., assistant professor of pediatrics at the University of Utah School of Medicine.

[…]

This goes along with the article I linked a couple of days ago about research indicating that white people look on blacks as “superhuman”.

104 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 9:56:17pm

Color me not surprised at this one:

Young children take but often barely touch healthy school cafeteria food options

You can offer young children healthier food choices in the elementary school cafeteria, but will they actually put it on their trays and eat it?

Probably not, suggests a new Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health study.

Researchers observed 274 children in kindergarten through second grade in 10 New York City public schools as they selected from the offerings during one lunch period when a chicken-and-vegetable entrée was on the menu. They watched to see whether each of the six-through-eight-year-olds chose a fruit, vegetable, whole grain, low-fat milk and/or a lean protein, taking before and after photos of the trays. They found that while 75 percent of the kids chose the lean protein (the entrée), only 58 percent chose a fruit and 59 percent chose a vegetable. And among those who put the various types of food on their trays, only 75 percent took even a single bite of the protein, while only 24 percent ate a bite of their vegetables.

“We have been thinking that if young children choose healthy food, they will eat it,” says Susan M. Gross, PhD, MPH, a research associate in the Department of Population, Family and Reproductive Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “But our research shows that is not necessarily so.”

[…]

Personally, I prefer the chocolate milk and peanut butter cookie diet.

105 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 9:58:20pm

Finally, remember this next time you get near your sweetie:

80 million bacteria sealed with a kiss

As many as 80 million bacteria are transferred during a 10 second kiss, according to research published in the open access journal Microbiome. The study also found that partners who kiss each other at least nine times a day share similar communities of oral bacteria.

[…]

106 freetoken  Nov 16, 2014 10:08:46pm

MP3 Audio

107 BeachDem  Nov 16, 2014 10:08:49pm

re: #104 freetoken

Color me not surprised at this one:

Young children take but often barely touch healthy school cafeteria food options

Personally, I prefer the chocolate milk and peanut butter cookie diet.

Interesting, but doesn’t seem like a very thorough study—274 kids on one day—seems like more anecdotal information than a real research study.

108 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 16, 2014 10:16:14pm

re: #105 freetoken

Finally, remember this next time you get near your sweetie:

80 million bacteria sealed with a kiss

Good a reason as any to be monogamous.

109 Snarknado!  Nov 16, 2014 10:19:29pm

re: #104 freetoken

Color me not surprised at this one:

Young children take but often barely touch healthy school cafeteria food options

When I was cafeteria age, we weren’t offered a choice of what to eat — or how much. You held out your tray, food was put on it, and then you ate it, or went hungry. And we had (shock!) a cafeteria dietician, who chose foods on the basis of their food value. What the hell happened?

110 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 16, 2014 10:27:53pm

re: #109 Snarknado!

When I was cafeteria age, we weren’t offered a choice of what to eat — or how much. You held out your tray, food was put on it, and then you ate it, or went hungry. And we had (shock!) a cafeteria dietician, who chose foods on the basis of their food value. What the hell happened?

Budget cuts.

111 Snarknado!  Nov 16, 2014 10:46:33pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Budget cuts.

Maybe… but I don’t think we ate all those beans solely because they were good for us.

112 teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2014 11:09:41pm

If you like rock ‘n’ roll music and you have 17 or so minutes to enjoy rock ‘n’ roll, please watch this YouTube.

Youtube Video

113 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 16, 2014 11:35:07pm

re: #109 Snarknado!

When I was cafeteria age, we weren’t offered a choice of what to eat — or how much. You held out your tray, food was put on it, and then you ate it, or went hungry. And we had (shock!) a cafeteria dietician, who chose foods on the basis of their food value. What the hell happened?

Many school districts — and colleges/universities — have outsourced their food services to companies like Aramark and Sodexo, so a corporate dietary department decides what all the clients get. Some school districts have even contracted with fast food joints like Mickey D’s to supply lunches. The days of food being planned and prepared by local people is long gone.

Jamie Oliver has done a great job in pointing out how horrible school lunches are, and how a little effort can produce good tasting, nutritious lunches that kids will actually eat. Guess what? It does not involve outsourcing to big corporations.
jamieoliver.com

114 freetoken  Nov 17, 2014 12:13:53am

Mass gives meaning to time.

115 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 12:30:11am

re: #114 freetoken

Mass gives meaning to time.

But KY gives purpose to jelly.

(Freakn’ weather radio woke me up. Weather Service has issued tornado watch, freeze warning, and a hard freeze watch.)

116 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 12:43:07am

re: #9 Vicious Piebola

Something is missing from this illustration==>

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Obama! /

117 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 12:54:09am

en.tis-home.com

118 freetoken  Nov 17, 2014 3:25:17am

MP3 Audio

119 Dark_Falcon  Nov 17, 2014 3:54:45am

re: #103 freetoken

A few interesting items in tonight’s dump of PRs:

Racial disparities in ear infection treatment may contribute to antibiotic overuse

This goes along with the article I linked a couple of days ago about research indicating that white people look on blacks as “superhuman”.

I think an element in play on this one is also that black children are a good bit less likely to have helicopter parents who insist on broad-spectrum antibiotics on the grounds that anything less fails to reflect how important their child is. The way black people are often treated normally prevents them from maintaining that sort of delusion.

120 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 4:38:23am

re: #113 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Many school districts — and colleges/universities — have outsourced their food services to companies like Aramark and Sodexo, so a corporate dietary department decides what all the clients get. Some school districts have even contracted with fast food joints like Mickey D’s to supply lunches. The days of food being planned and prepared by local people is long gone.

Jamie Oliver has done a great job in pointing out how horrible school lunches are, and how a little effort can produce good tasting, nutritious lunches that kids will actually eat. Guess what? It does not involve outsourcing to big corporations.
jamieoliver.com

School lunches sucked when I was a kid 50 years ago, when a 1/2 pt carton of milk cost 2¢ and a hot lunch cost 35¢

Blaming Michelle Obama for school lunch sucking is just stupid, but all wingnuts do is stupid.

121 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 4:44:23am

Bono is having a bad day, guess he took a spill on his bicycle in Central Park and needs surgery on his arm. Must be bad karma for forcing his music on so many people! I hope he heals up quick.

122 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 4:45:41am

re: #121 Flounder

I forgot to add that his private plane lost a door on take off too, aint karma a bitch!?

123 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 4:45:52am

re: #121 Flounder

Bono is having a bad day, guess he took a spill on his bicycle in Central Park and needs surgery on his arm. Must be bad karma for forcing his music on so many people! I hope he heals up quick.

He’s had to cancel some appearances as a result.

He and U2 apologized for that whole iTunes business, but really guys, what were you thinking?

124 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 4:46:55am

My karma ran over your dogma. Okay I am done, sorry.

125 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 4:50:41am

Apparently many champagne brands were approached to sponsor Kim Kardashian’s buttocks, but they all passed. Probably because they would have needed more than one bottle, and that is just alcohol abuse. NSFW

126 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 4:55:35am

I am going have to disagree with Ed Cox on this one:

Mayor de Blasio — not Hillary Rodham Clinton — will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2016.
That’s the jaw-dropping prediction being made by New York’s top Republican, state GOP Chairman Ed Cox, who, as son-in-law to former President Richard Nixon, knows a thing or two about national politics.

I don’t think the Mayor is known nationally. Governor Andrew Cuomo will be the next Democratic nominee for president 2016.

nypost.com

127 Dark_Falcon  Nov 17, 2014 4:55:39am

re: #125 Flounder

Apparently many champagne brands were approached to sponsor Kim Kardashian’s buttocks, but they all passed. Probably because they would have needed more than one bottle, and that is just alcohol abuse. NSFW

Well, said buttocks are too plump to be gamey. And with that DERP, I’m out. BBT

128 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 4:59:54am

re: #125 Flounder

Apparently many champagne brands were approached to sponsor Kim Kardashian’s buttocks, but they all passed. Probably because they would have needed more than one bottle, and that is just alcohol abuse. NSFW

Back when I was a reporter, one of my co-workers, proudly announced in the newsroom that her boobs were shaped like champagne glasses. No one made any comments, because what could you say?

As I recall, that co-worker was built along the same lines as Kim K. Ahem.

129 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 5:01:54am

LOL wingnuts have been pwn3d into Tweeting this meme:

130 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 5:03:48am

I see from “Bleu RN” timeline that wingnuts are screaming NO NO IT’S LIBRUL LIES!!!! CARSON’S MOTHER WORKED AS A MAID!!!!! SHE WORKED HARD!!!!!!

Yeah she worked her ass off but didn’t make enough money to feed her kids, or buy glasses for them, or put them through medical school.

131 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 5:08:23am

[never mind, blocked this idiot]

132 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:24:28am

Like 7 inches from the midday sun.

Youtube Video

133 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:25:13am

re: #129 Vicious Piebola

LOL wingnuts have been pwn3d into Tweeting this meme:

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Did it all on his own!

134 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:27:33am

re: #114 freetoken

Mass gives meaning to time.

Yes, time moves very s l o w l y during Catholic Mass.

135 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:27:48am

morning all

136 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:32:32am
137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 5:33:53am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Yes, time moves very s l o w l y during Catholic Mass.

Except when you have gotten into trouble for crawling around under the pews, rearranging shoes and taking stuff out of handbags, whereupon your mother has promised you a good thrashing after the service is over…then you WANT them to say another Hail Mary or two…

138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 5:34:30am

re: #136 FemNaziBitch

ICYMI: Rand Paul says Ebola is more contagious than AIDS.

Stupidity is more contagious than either…

139 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 17, 2014 5:42:09am
140 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:42:28am

Why do I think this is photoshopped?

141 Belafon  Nov 17, 2014 5:43:12am

re: #129 Vicious Piebola

Ben Carson, the Republican who is famous for being…famous. Yeah, that’s it.

142 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 5:43:49am

re: #140 FemNaziBitch

Why do I think this is photoshopped?

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It’s from the war, taken last summer.

143 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:45:31am

Here is another, this looks believable to me.

144 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:49:34am

VOCABULARY WORD FOR THE DAY

gemeinschaft

PRONUNCIATION:
(guh-MYN-shaft)

MEANING:
noun: Social relations based on personal ties, affection, kinship, etc.

ETYMOLOGY:
From German Gemeinschaft (community), from gemein (common) + -schaft (-ship). Earliest documented use: 1937.

NOTES:
The counterpart of Gemeinschaft (community) is Gesellschaft (society), that is, social relation marked by impersonal ties, such as duty to society or to an organization.

USAGE:
“As with those small-town figures, the doorman’s knowledge of a person can be worrying, but it is comforting, too. The doorman is a touch of Gemeinschaft in an ever more Gesellschaft world.”
James Collins; Why Doormen?; The New York Times; Apr 25, 2010.

145 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 5:50:49am

Heartfelt story of heroin addiction that began in the suburbs.

146 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 5:56:10am

re: #141 Belafon

Ben Carson, the Republican who is famous for being…famous. Yeah, that’s it.

Ben Carson, the Kim Kardashian of Republican politics.

147 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 5:56:59am

#SJRES15

Official Summary

Eliminates the time limit for ratification of the equal rights amendment (prohibits discrimination on account of sex) proposed to the states in House Joint Resolution 208 of the 92nd Congress, as agreed to in the Senate on March 22, 1972. Declares that such amendment shall be part of the Constitution whenever ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states.

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 6:08:23am

re: #141 Belafon

Ben Carson, the Republican who is famous for being…famous. Yeah, that’s it.

He is the Anti-Obama, which means he simply personifies the GOP approach to policy and governing.

149 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:09:55am

re: #145 Flounder

Heartfelt story of heroin addiction that began in the suburbs.

Yep, it’s serious stuff.

150 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:10:38am
151 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 6:18:23am

Weird cognitive dissonance. Wingnuts claim that Gruber is a pathological liar, and yet they believe he is TELL TRUTH!!!!!!!!! now.

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 6:22:21am

re: #126 Flounder

I am going have to disagree with Ed Cox on this one:

I don’t think the Mayor is known nationally. Governor Andrew Cuomo will be the next Democratic nominee for president 2016.

nypost.com

Shudder. That little authoritarian would be worse than Hillary nationally. About the only worse pick would be Bloomberg. Cuomo would lose similar to Kerry, if not Mondale, for many of the same reasons plus his kneejerk gun control laws.

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 6:26:30am

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Budget cuts.

And vending machines.

154 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:27:29am
155 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 6:28:56am

re: #151 Vicious Piebola

Weird cognitive dissonance. Wingnuts claim that Gruber is a pathological liar, and yet they believe he is TELL TRUTH!!!!!!!!! now.

We will believe anyone who is critical of Obama.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 6:34:54am
157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 6:35:40am

Apparent tornado this morning:

158 meteor  Nov 17, 2014 6:36:29am

The Sun looks like it is made out of fried cheese. Mmmmm.

159 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:44:46am

F. Glenn Miller Jr. talks for the first time about the killings at Jewish centers

“I was convinced I was dying then,” said Miller, of Aurora, Mo., in his first published interview since the April 13 shooting rampage. “… I wanted to make damned sure I killed some Jews or attacked the Jews before I died.”

*shudder*

160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 6:48:56am

First they came for the violent racist white supremacists. But I said nothing because I was not a violent racist white supremacist…

/

161 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:48:57am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We will believe anyone who is critical of Obama.

Fox News is the Blame Obama Channel.

162 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 6:49:20am

re: #158 meteor

The Sun looks like it is made out of fried cheese. Mmmmm.

Io has been called a big pizza in space, after all.

163 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:50:48am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Io has been called a big pizza in space, after all.

“That’s Amore”

…?

164 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 6:52:36am

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

“That’s Amore”

…?

Probably one of Jupiter’s other moons, or lovers, as the case may be. He was a player.

“When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that’s amore!” — D. Martin

165 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 6:53:20am

oooooohhh, new Shelby

166 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 17, 2014 6:54:33am

Buona notte, lizards!

167 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 7:01:15am

re: #165 FemNaziBitch

I love muscle car porn in the morning!

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 7:01:52am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Probably one of Jupiter’s other moons, or lovers, as the case may be. He was a player.

“When the moon hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, that’s amore!” — D. Martin

“When you’re at the sea, and a long fish bites your knee, that’s a moray!”
— countless wags

169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 7:05:17am

re: #167 Flounder

I love muscle car porn in the morning!

Even as a teenager, I never looked on cars as anything other than a means to get from a to b. Getting there quickly and in comfort were priorities, but impressing people on the way was never at all important.

170 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:05:50am
171 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:07:48am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even as a teenager, I never looked on cars as anything other than a means to get from a to b. Getting there quickly and in comfort were priorities, but impressing people on the way was never at all important.

For the most part, I agree. The artist in me stops cold at the sight of the Jaguar SJS Convertible

That Shelby is one beautiful Car.

172 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:09:29am
173 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 17, 2014 7:11:30am
174 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:11:36am

re: #165 FemNaziBitch

oooooohhh, new Shelby

Nice to see the Ford Mustang and Chevy Camaro fight back on.

175 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 7:13:13am

re: #174 b_sharp

What’s a Camaro? /

176 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:13:42am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even as a teenager, I never looked on cars as anything other than a means to get from a to b. Getting there quickly and in comfort were priorities, but impressing people on the way was never at all important.

It’s always been about the capabilities with me, whether that means speed or the ability to power through crap.

I used to street race in the ’70s and later lifted a couple of mud running (well, more like getting stuck) 4x4s.

177 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:14:47am

What Cities Would Look Like if Lit Only by the Stars

178 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:15:00am

re: #170 FemNaziBitch

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I seriously hate the word ‘proactive’.

179 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:16:48am

re: #175 lawhawk

What’s a Camaro? /

Hey now, don’t be slagging my Chevy.

I owned a 1970 SS with the split bumper. Beat many a lazy mustang.

180 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:17:12am

re: #178 b_sharp

I seriously hate the word ‘proactive’.

I’m sorry, I’ll never use it again.

181 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:17:24am

re: #171 FemNaziBitch

For the most part, I agree. The artist in me stops cold at the sight of the Jaguar SJS Convertible

That Shelby is one beautiful Car.

Aren’t you glad I’m a gentleman?

182 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 7:17:49am

re: #177 FemNaziBitch

What Cities Would Look Like if Lit Only by the Stars

There’s a beauty to that. I enjoy the city lights as much as anyone but the stars in the night sky- still a beautiful sight.

183 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 7:19:17am

re: #171 FemNaziBitch

If you are going to buy a Jaguar, but two so you have something to drive while your other Jag is in the shop.

184 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:19:19am

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

I’m sorry, I’ll never use it again.

Thank you.

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:20:00am

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

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Glad they’re catching up to us colonialists … < whistles >

186 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:20:22am

re: #175 lawhawk

What’s a Camaro? /

Bumblebee!

///

187 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:21:02am

re: #185 William Barnett-Lewis

Glad they’re catching up to us colonialists … < whistles >

RC Church can’t be far behind —right?

188 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:21:28am

re: #186 William Barnett-Lewis

Bumblebee!

///

What’s a Pinto?

189 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:21:31am

re: #179 b_sharp

Hey now, don’t be slagging my Chevy.

I owned a 1970 SS with the split bumper. Beat many a lazy mustang.

I preferred the 1970 Nova SS (350ci) I had for awhile. Very plain Grandma car interior & exterior but it could _move_.

190 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 7:21:35am

Lake Effect season is underway. That complements the usual four seasons, and sees some of the biggest snowfall accumulations of the year.

191 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:22:29am

re: #189 William Barnett-Lewis

I preferred the 1970 Nova SS (350ci) I had for awhile. Very plain Grandma car interior & exterior but it could _move_.

Is the Nova the car that slanted?

192 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:22:34am

re: #186 William Barnett-Lewis

Bumblebee!

///

193 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:23:29am

This is a Camaro

194 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:23:51am

re: #189 William Barnett-Lewis

I preferred the 1970 Nova SS (350ci) I had for awhile. Very plain Grandma car interior & exterior but it could _move_.

I liked the Nova too. Back in those days it didn’t take a CS degree to hotrod your ride.

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:24:16am

re: #187 FemNaziBitch

RC Church can’t be far behind —right?

I am expecting that if he is still with us, Francis will open the diaconate to women again within the decade. That will be the most critical first step as it will get the laity used to seeing women serving at the altar.

Priests, bishops and the rest will follow. With Rome, as with Canturbury, it’s a game of generations, not of days.

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 7:24:47am

re: #188 FemNaziBitch

What’s a Pinto?

a bean…

197 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:24:57am

re: #195 William Barnett-Lewis

I am expecting that if he is still with us, Francis will open the diaconate to women again within the decade. That will be the most critical first step as it will get the laity used to seeing women serving at the altar.

Priests, bishops and the rest will follow. With Rome, as with Canturbury, it’s a game of generations, not of days.

I’m not holding my breath.

198 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 7:24:59am

Damn.

199 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 7:25:28am

Flat plane crank shaft. I need a cold shower!

200 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:27:33am

re: #193 FemNaziBitch

This is a Camaro

This what mine looked like except it was brown and had the SS logo on the grill.

201 FemNaziBitch  Nov 17, 2014 7:27:39am

I gotta get moving

be safe out there today all!

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 7:30:17am

I think I understand the concept behind wanting to do this. But doesn’t Germany have better things to do with their money and legislative time?

Female icon traffic lights

203 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:30:42am

My Nova looked like this but in a green paint job.

204 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 7:31:30am

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

I think I understand the concept behind wanting to do this. But doesn’t Germany have better things to do with their money and legislative time?

Female icon traffic lights

Yeah seems like a waste of time and money that could be better spent elsewhere.

205 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:31:43am

re: #203 William Barnett-Lewis

My Nova looked like this but in a green paint job.

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Man, I can still smell the carborated unburnt fuel.

206 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 7:33:27am

re: #205 b_sharp

and taste the lead in the fuel/oil exhaust aromas…

207 b_sharp  Nov 17, 2014 7:34:37am

re: #206 Flounder

and taste the lead in the fuel/oil exhaust aromas…

Ah yes, the smells of the old world.

Nothing wrong with a little lead in your lungs.

208 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 7:38:50am

Times I think we’re a young and hip crowd here at LGF…then I walk in on the old folks trading stories.

209 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 7:40:00am

re: #208 Targetpractice

Times I think we’re a young and hip crowd here at LGF…then I walk in on the old folks trading stories.

GET OFF MY LAWN

210 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 7:42:34am
The Whine is on the way!
211 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 17, 2014 7:43:44am
212 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 7:46:07am

Well, there’s the end of sports in the USA. We’re outsourcing the NFL to China.
//// ;)

NFL sends Rice to China

(Edit: Yes. I did have to name the link that way. Could not help myself.)

213 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 17, 2014 7:51:21am

re: #208 Targetpractice

Yesterday went out for lunch with D_L to a franchise restaurant. Chilis. On the table is a little tablet. I ask what it’s for and I’m told it’s for entertainment etc. Pay $.99 and get this or that online. Not My Thing. Then I’m told we can order drinks on it. No thanks. Then as we finish lunch I’m told that unless we are paying cash we should pay or bill on the tablet. I look this waitress in the eye and tell her, “yes, cash bill and tip. I want nothing to do with this “entertainment” tablet that is clearly a threat to her job, If I wanted to order online I could do that with my own tablet or either cell phone we already had with us. Feel free to tell the management. ” Paraphrased for brevity.

I think this place is trying waaay too hard to appeal to those that grew up with the internet. That tablet is what retail pros call a sales stimulator. That’s them playing me. No thanks.

Old man moment?

214 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 7:53:32am

re: #213 Indy GOP Refugee

Yesterday went out for lunch with D_L to a franchise restaurant. Chilis. On the table is a little tablet. I ask what it’s for and I’m told it’s for entertainment etc. Pay $.99 and get this or that online. Not My Thing. Then I’m told we can order drinks on it. No thanks. Then as we finish lunch I’m told that unless we are paying cash we should pay or bill on the tablet. I look this waitress in the eye and tell her, “yes, cash bill and tip. I want nothing to do with this “entertainment” tablet that is clearly a threat to her job, If I wanted to order online I could do that with my own tablet or either cell phone we already had with us. Feel free to tell the management. ” Paraphrased for brevity.

I think this place is trying waaay too hard to appeal to those that grew up with the internet. That tablet is what retail pros call a simulator. That’s them playing me. No thanks.

Old man moment?

Was the franchise Uno Chicago Grill?

215 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 7:55:00am

re: #213 Indy GOP Refugee

Yesterday went out for lunch with D_L to a franchise restaurant. Chilis. On the table is a little tablet. I ask what it’s for and I’m told it’s for entertainment etc. Pay $.99 and get this or that online. Not My Thing. Then I’m told we can order drinks on it. No thanks. Then as we finish lunch I’m told that unless we are paying cash we should pay or bill on the tablet. I look this waitress in the eye and tell her, “yes, cash bill and tip. I want nothing to do with this “entertainment” tablet that is clearly a threat to her job, If I wanted to order online I could do that with my own tablet or either cell phone we already had with us. Feel free to tell the management. ” Paraphrased for brevity.

I think this place is trying waaay too hard to appeal to those that grew up with the internet. That tablet is what retail pros call a sales stimulator. That’s them playing me. No thanks.

Old man moment?

Not really. Since in addition to tempting sales they’re data collecting on you if you use it, plus the nice little “service fee” to grift out a few more bucks that they hope you won’t notice.

216 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 7:57:45am

re: #213 Indy GOP Refugee

Old man moment?

Nope, wise man moment. Good for you laying the labor relations truth on her too. These are the kinds of reasons service industries should organize.

217 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 8:01:41am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparent tornado this morning:

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That’s the system that woke me up a couple hours earlier. We just got wind/rain. Calhoun County airport has a great parachute drop zone. Hope they’re OK.

littlegreenfootballs.com

218 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 8:02:03am

re: #171 FemNaziBitch

For the most part, I agree. The artist in me stops cold at the sight of the Jaguar SJS Convertible

That Shelby is one beautiful Car.

Never like Jags, but I did like Saabs

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 8:04:27am

re: #195 William Barnett-Lewis

I am expecting that if he is still with us, Francis will open the diaconate to women again within the decade. That will be the most critical first step as it will get the laity used to seeing women serving at the altar.

Priests, bishops and the rest will follow. With Rome, as with Canturbury, it’s a game of generations, not of days.

I will take the RCC seriously when the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles convenes to elect a Popess. But I do not expect that to happen within my lifetime.

220 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 8:04:42am

re: #216 William Barnett-Lewis

Nope, wise man moment. Good for you laying the labor relations truth on her too. These are the kinds of reasons service industries should organize.

Hear-hear. When I go to a restaurant, I expect to interact with a human being, if for no other reason than I actually feel like I’m wanted there rather than just a source of money for the business.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 8:05:55am
222 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:09:39am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is that Austin Powers’ car?

223 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:12:44am

Tiergasschutzverein.

224 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 17, 2014 8:13:05am

re: #214 Targetpractice

Chilis.

225 Ed E. Lishus  Nov 17, 2014 8:15:21am

re: #212 Feline Fearless Leader

NFL sends Rice to China

NBC News, I see what you did there.

226 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 8:15:54am

re: #224 Indy GOP Refugee

Chilis.

I give a very short version to people who try to steer me to self-checkout counters. Totally at peace with my Inner Luddite.

227 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 8:16:41am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haven’t heard of a 20-car wreck here in Columbus, but plenty of one and two car accidents. At one point this morning, I think there were accidents on every single main road and highway around here.

And, it looks like we won’t be getting the full 4 to 6 inches of snow. Maybe 3” at best…and since it is right around freezing, it is sloppy and wet. I’m gonna go clean as much off my walks and around my house as I can before the temps drop down to 20° this afternoon and 10° tonight with wind. Brrrr.

By the way…I’ve noticed a lot of ACA related spam coming in. Looks like the spammers and bad people are hoping people log into junk sites and give up their critical personal info. Fuckers.

228 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 8:17:20am

re: #224 Indy GOP Refugee

Chilis.

Ah, haven’t been there in a good while. But I know Unos pulls the same shit. And the first time I looked at it and saw the “pay to play” bit, my thought was “Just how stupid do they think I am?”

229 Dr. Matt  Nov 17, 2014 8:17:36am

re: #208 Targetpractice

Times I think we’re a young and hip crowd here at LGF…then I walk in on the old folks trading stories.

I remember in the earlier days of LGF and using a 800 baud modem to sign in.

230 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 8:17:50am

re: #225 Ed E. Lishus

NBC News, I see what you did there.

No, I did that. NBC title was “Why the NFL is eyeing Tuesday Morning Football”.

231 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 8:18:53am

re: #223 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There were animal gas masks in that war, but that’s probably a couple grunts goofing around for the camera.

Image: article-2045816-0E3D50E300000578-190_634x431.jpg

232 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 8:20:00am
Old Guy mobile
233 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:21:10am

re: #231 Decatur Deb

There were animal gas masks in that war, but that’s probably a couple grunts goofing around for the camera.

Image: article-2045816-0E3D50E300000578-190_634x431.jpg

To which of the four horsemen does it belong?

234 bratwurst  Nov 17, 2014 8:21:15am

Fuckwit who apparently intends to run for president again leads tour group to Auschwitz with message that US turning into Nazi Germany

These guys who LOVE Israel sure never pass up an opportunity to spit in the face of actual Holocaust victims.

235 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:22:41am

re: #234 bratwurst

Would have been splendid if Poland arrested him for Holocaust denial.

236 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:23:09am

re: #234 bratwurst

Fuckwit who apparently intends to run for president again leads tour group to Auschwitz with message that US turning into Nazi Germany

These guys who LOVE Israel sure never pass up an opportunity to spit in the face of actual Holocaust victims.

I see that every day but I am not going to stop Tweeting this Holocaust meme:

237 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 8:23:52am

Well, folks, good wishes please. I’m off to interview for a position as a cashier at a local gas station. This is a part time, 3 - 8 pm position that will hopefully mesh well with my hotel job so that I can make enough money to survive and pay my child support at the same time. Don’t ya just love minimum wages? Worst part is that I’m making more than minimum but it’s still not enough.

238 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:24:03am

They don’t give a fuck about actual Holocaust victims, they co-opt the Holocaust to make THEMSELVES (gun-fuckers) the victims.

239 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:24:11am

re: #234 bratwurst

Fuckwit who apparently intends to run for president again leads tour group to Auschwitz with message that US turning into Nazi Germany

These guys who LOVE Israel sure never pass up an opportunity to spit in the face of actual Holocaust victims.

Hopefully one of the locals or survivors or survivors’ family when he’s visiting decks him for his fucked up sense of history. And how sad is it I clicked your link wondering “Which GOP prospective candidate that compared the US to Nazi Germany is this referring to?”

240 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:25:17am

re: #238 Vicious Piebola

They don’t give a fuck about actual Holocaust victims, they co-opt the Holocaust to make THEMSELVES (gun-fuckers) the victims.

Gun fuckers, Conservative fundamentalist Christians who somehow think gays having the same rights as they do is discrimination, or just conservatives in general who can’t handle the fact that Obama is POTUS and McCain and Mitt are not.

241 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:26:10am

re: #235 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Would have been splendid if Poland arrested him for Holocaust denial.

It would be tough to prove that given he’s not specifically denying the Holocaust here but more so criminalizing its horrors for cheap political theater and outrage but I would love it if a Holocaust survivor confronted Fuckabee and the other Holocaust denying RWNJs that go around likening their “plight” to Holocaust victims.

242 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 17, 2014 8:26:22am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Hopefully one of the locals or survivors or survivors’ family when he’s visiting decks him for his fucked up sense of history. And how sad is it I clicked your link wondering “Which GOP prospective candidate that compared the US to Nazi Germany is this referring to?”

And the scary part is contemplating whether Obama-Clinton or the Koch-GOP alliance would lead to that quicker.
/

243 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:26:45am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Gun fuckers, Conservative fundamentalist Christians who somehow think gays having the same rights as they do is discrimination, or just conservatives in general who can’t handle the fact that Obama is POTUS and McCain and Mitt are not.

AND ALL TEH FETUS BABBIES!!!1!!!11!

244 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 8:26:56am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Hopefully one of the locals or survivors or survivors’ family when he’s visiting decks him for his fucked up sense of history. And how sad is it I clicked your link wondering “Which GOP prospective candidate that compared the US to Nazi Germany is this referring to?”

Yeah. I was thinking Romney had gone there to arrange some baptisms.

245 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:27:54am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

It would be tough to prove that

Impossible in a court, but an arrest would have been cool. They do have the laws.

246 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:28:15am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Yeah. I was thinking Romney had gone there to arrange some baptisms.

That’s really creepy that the LDS do that now that you mention it but actually I was thinking of Ben Carson and then I saw Bratwurst said running again so I thought Santorum since he’s fond of this failed analogy too.

247 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:28:25am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

It would be tough to prove but I would love it if a Holocaust survivor confronted Fuckabee and the other Holocaust denying RWNJs that go around likening their “plight” to Holocaust victims.

Sadly there are professional “Holocaust survivors” who go around using their “Holocaust survivorness” for causes. Hedy Epstein, for example.

248 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:28:32am

re: #245 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Impossible in a court, but an arrest would have been cool. They do have the laws.

Ah true.

249 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:28:37am

re: #237 William Barnett-Lewis

Good luck!

250 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:28:59am

re: #247 Vicious Piebola

Sadly there are professional “Holocaust survivors” who go around using their “Holocaust survivorness” for causes. Hedy Epstein, for example.

Not familiar with Hedy Epstein.

251 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:29:43am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Not familiar with Hedy Epstein.

She is the lady who has appeared with Code Pink, comparing the Israelis to the nazis.

252 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:29:47am

re: #237 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, folks, good wishes please. I’m off to interview for a position as a cashier at a local gas station. This is a part time, 3 - 8 pm position that will hopefully mesh well with my hotel job so that I can make enough money to survive and pay my child support at the same time. Don’t ya just love minimum wages? Worst part is that I’m making more than minimum but it’s still not enough.

Good luck. Man we really need to do something about employment in this country.

253 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:29:50am

re: #247 Vicious Piebola

Sadly there are professional “Holocaust survivors” who go around using their “Holocaust survivorness” for causes. Hedy Epstein, for example.

Basically, every “star” survivor. Elie Wiesel comes to mind.

254 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:30:29am

re: #251 Vicious Piebola

She is the lady who has appeared with Code Pink, comparing the Israelis to the nazis.

Agh. As you know, not familiar with people who do that regardless of their political persuasion. It’s even worse that she’s a Holocaust survivor doing it.

255 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:31:53am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Agh. As you know, not familiar with people who do that regardless of their political persuasion. It’s even worse that she’s a Holocaust survivor doing it.

She actually was in the UK from 1938.

256 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:32:52am

you know though as a former history major, the more and more I learn about the Nazis. And even more importantly having visited a concentration camp-Dachau the more it angers me to see people like Huckabee go around and cheapen the horrors of millions of people by comparing the fact that they don’t like democratically enacted policies that they don’t like to organized mass murder. I myself am not Jewish but like many Jews, I too had family kliled by the Nazis during the war.

257 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:33:35am

re: #255 Vicious Piebola

She actually was in the UK from 1938.

Ahh I see. One of the lucky ones that got out before the war. Really, it just bothers me that people do that. It’s as you put it a form of denial.

258 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 8:34:24am

re:
#213

Then as we finish lunch I’m told that unless we are paying cash we should pay or bill on the tablet.

WTFITS?

259 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 8:36:40am

On a related note, my reading of The Great Escape after having viewed the classic film several times has rebooted my interest in POW escape stories. So I found on Youtube last night a show from the early 70’s called Colditz. Just watched the pilot last night. It’s a different feel from the Great Escape which almost feels light-hearted and cheerful at times in spite of what happens to the escaping POWs in the film. Von Ryan’s Express is another old POW war movie I liked. Great Escape will always be my favorite though on the subject because I love how the film flows and there’s so many interesting characters played by many great actors of that day.

260 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 8:37:03am

Hmm, I didn’t know Wiesel is on the board of advisors for the Gatestone Institute.

261 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 8:43:26am

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY
(Extra Stupid Points because Stupid Juice shame us all)

262 calochortus  Nov 17, 2014 8:47:14am

re: #258 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#213

WTFITS?

I don’t even know how one would do that. (Old. I am old.) Would you type your credit card number in or is there a place to swipe it? In any event, why would I want to do that?

263 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 8:49:09am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY
(Extra Stupid Points because Stupid Juice shame us all)

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We do, we purchase guns and weapons systems worth billions.

264 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 8:49:26am

BEARS!!!

265 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 8:49:51am

re: #213 Indy GOP Refugee

Chili’s has these as well. I’ve got mixed feelings about using them. It’s far easier to scan a paper menu than to slide through multiple screens on a tablet (and I dont have to worry about dropping them or getting food on them that might damage them - an added cost that the business may not take into account).

Sometimes, the best methods are the easiest - analog sometimes gets things done faster at the table, and the server then inputs it into the computerized systems at a separate station.

They do make some aspects of the server’s job easier - you can make sure your order is exactly to your liking, and the bill can be split according to your party’s needs. Paying by credit card at the table becomes safer, since the card is never out of your possession, which is the way it’s often done overseas and you don’t have to worry about unscrupulous people swiping the card to take the key data from the cards for later criminal activities.

266 makeitstop  Nov 17, 2014 8:57:25am

re: #236 Vicious Piebola

Fuckwit who apparently intends to run for president again leads tour group to Auschwitz with message that US turning into Nazi Germany

Here’s an idea, Huck - leave the country before they put you into a goddamn FEMA camp, you alarmist punk.

I’m SO fed up with Christianists trying to convince people they’re being persecuted.

267 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 8:58:40am
268 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 8:58:48am

I have just learned that if the name of a restaurant is named after a food or the main plant ingredient in that food it does not come across as the actual name of the restaurant when typed into a comment.

In other words…do not name your restaurant chain Chili’s. It goes right past readers.

: )

(I think Indy GOP Refugee got the name in right away too…second sentence, one word! Just teasing everyone. It could be due to quick reading at work…)

269 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 9:13:33am

Two books by the same author:

Jesus, King of Edessa

[…]

Following 25 years of research, Ralph Ellis has discovered that Jesus was a prince of Edessa in northern Syria. The Edessan monarchs were Nazarene Jews who helped build the Temple of Jerusalem and saved Judaea from starvation during a great famine. But, just like Jesus, they were also religious and political revolutionaries who tried to take control of Judaea, but were thwarted by the Roman Army. Thus there are many links and similarities between the biblical accounts and the princes and kings of Edessa.

However, in addition to this, Ralph Ellis has discovered that one of the princes of Edessa had the same names as Jesus. Jesus was called (King) Jesus Emmanuel, while one of the Edessan monarchs was called King Izas Manu(el). Equally interesting, is the fact that all of the Edessan monarchs wore a plaited Crown of Thorns. The biblical Jesus was crucified wearing this same plaited Crown of Thorns because he was this very same prince and king of Edessa.

[…]

This is a scholarly study of all the available historical evidence, including the Tanakh, Talmud, Josephus Flavius, the Roman historians, and venerable Syriac historians like Moses of Chorene and Yohannes Drasxanakertci.

And:

King Jesus, from Kam (Egypt) to Camelot

[…]
Contrary to orthodox perceptions, King Jesus and Queen Mary Magdalene were the richest couple in Syrio-Judaea. The Romans wanted to impose taxes on Jesus and Mary, an imposition that provoked the Jewish Rebellion. King Jesus fought and lost that war, and so he was crucified, reprieved and sent into exile in Roman England. In those remote lands, King Jesus became known as Atur-tii (the Egyptian) or ‘King Arthur and the twelve disciples of the Last Supper Table’.

This identification of Jesus as a wealthy, royal, warrior-hero of first century Judaea may sound bizarre, but that is what the texts say. All research and quotations are from original sources, including the New Testament, Tanakh, Talmud, Josephus, Origen, Eusebius, Irenaeus, Herodian, Suetonius, Tacitus, Clement and many others besides. This is a secret history that has been deliberately concealed from us for two millennia - for those feet, in ancient times, did indeed walk upon England’s mountains green!

270 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 9:22:00am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY
(Extra Stupid Points because Stupid Juice shame us all)

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Give a starving population enough guns and they’ll find their own food.

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 17, 2014 9:22:02am

re: #269 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I started getting into Jesus around the 7th grade, about the time that everybody was into Jersus Christ Superstar.

At the same time, I had a history teacher who really taught us what History was, namely something that was based on a critical analysis of original sources.

I then realized that the Holy Scriptures were anything but a complete or reliable source of information on Jesus.

272 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 9:25:53am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And that’s the problem - there aren’t any quality sources about J.

273 Mike Lamb  Nov 17, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY
(Extra Stupid Points because Stupid Juice shame us all)

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Recognizing that it’s from the Declaration of Independence, but that part about “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” being inalienable rights—wouldn’t eating/food be part of that whole “life” thing?

274 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 9:42:15am

re: #273 Mike Lamb

Recognizing that it’s from the Declaration of Independence, but that part about “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” being inalienable rights—wouldn’t eating/food be part of that whole “life” thing?

HURR HURR THERE LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!1!!!!!

276 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 17, 2014 9:43:07am

re: #261 Vicious Piebola

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY
(Extra Stupid Points because Stupid Juice shame us all)

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At first I wondered how they were going to identify the liberals whose taxes would buy them guns. Then I remembered that Blue State taxes already subsidize the busted-ass Red States so it became clear that they just want to add firearms to the list of things they get from their oppressors.

277 Ed E. Lishus  Nov 17, 2014 9:43:11am

re: #269 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This is a secret history that has been deliberately concealed from us for two millennia

These kinds of statements are the kinds conspiracy loons seem to eat up but are always red flags for me.

278 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 9:43:46am

Yeah, imagine that. Not even two weeks since the midterms and Republicans are already wielding the shutdown stick again.

279 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 9:45:00am

re: #275 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

From dkos:
NYT Op-Ed: Demographic Delusions For Democrats

Ouch!!! Gonna need some bandaids for that cut…

280 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 9:45:53am

re: #276 Higgs Boson’s Mate

At first I wondered how they were going to identify the liberals whose taxes would buy them guns. Then I remembered that Blue State taxes already subsidize the busted-ass Red States so it became clear that they just want to add firearms to the list of things they get from their oppressors.

Of course this contradicts their other favorite meme that HURR HURR ONLY TEH CONSERVATIVES HAS ALL TEH JRRBS & PAYS ALL TEH TAXES & TEH LIBTARDS ARE ALL UNEMPLOYED & LAZY & TAKIN TEH WELFARES FROM ARE HARD EARNED TAXES!!!!!1!!!!!

281 HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2014 9:48:26am

re: #273 Mike Lamb

Recognizing that it’s from the Declaration of Independence, but that part about “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” being inalienable rights—wouldn’t eating/food be part of that whole “life” thing?

Preeamble talks about general welfare.

282 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 17, 2014 9:49:39am

re: #275 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

From dkos:
NYT Op-Ed: Demographic Delusions For Democrats

This one is a must-read for Democrats, if only to keep them from destroying their livers on Wednesday, November 9th, 2016.

283 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 9:53:10am

re: #275 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

From dkos:
NYT Op-Ed: Demographic Delusions For Democrats

If everyone can find the time…read the Dialy KOS article Sergey has linked. It is pretty sobering. It may be a little over the top, but then it may be spot on. It is worrisome at the very least.

284 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 17, 2014 9:55:01am

re: #275 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

From dkos:
NYT Op-Ed: Demographic Delusions For Democrats

re: #279 ObserverArt

Given the panicky tone it’s harder to take seriously. Rand? Really? Color me less than convinced. Plus, well it’s a long road through the primary let alone the win.

285 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 9:56:35am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Ouch!!! Gonna need some bandaids for that cut…

re: #282 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This one is a must-read for Democrats, if only to keep them from destroying their livers on Wednesday, November 9th, 2016.

Whimper of Despair. It’s useful if it keeps us from becoming complacent, harmful if it justifies another grail quest for a King Nader.

286 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 9:57:43am

re: #285 Decatur Deb

Whimper of Despair. It’s useful if it keeps us from becoming complacent, harmful if it justifies another grail quest for a King Nader.

Yes.

287 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 9:58:13am

re: #284 Indy GOP Refugee

Given the panicky tone it’s harder to take seriously. Rand? Really? Color me less than convinced. Plus, well it’s a long road through the primary let alone the win.

I think the tone is right on. As long as Democrats run as Republican-lite, running away from their own accomplishments - if not apologizing for them - there is no real argument to be made when we hear so often “both parties are the same, what’s the point?”

288 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 17, 2014 9:59:24am

Stay classy white people:
Ferguson Cop Supporters Crowdfunded a “Pants Up, Don’t Loot” Billboard

Spurred on by a Tennessee resident who is concerned about the Ferguson protesters and their catchy chants, supporters of police officer Darren Wilson have donated more than enough money to post a billboard in the heart of the St. Louis suburb reading “#PantsUPDontLoot.”

The phrase and hashtag, popularized by pearl-clutching National Review conservatives as a retort to the protesters’ “Hands up, don’t shoot” rallying cry, apparently seeks to redirect attention from alleged excessive police force to alleged “violence and mayhem” by demonstrators.

289 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 9:59:54am

re: #282 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This one is a must-read for Democrats, if only to keep them from destroying their livers on Wednesday, November 9th, 2016.

Too much butthurt.

But Dems have to offer an alternative to Hillary.

290 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:00:24am

Just to add a spoonful of sugar to the wormwood cocktail, Clinton is leading in the polls right now. Means nothing, of course.

291 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:02:00am

re: #290 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Just to add a spoonful of sugar to the wormwood cocktail, Clinton is leading in the polls right now. Means nothing, of course.

Looks like he found some unskewed polls that put her behind selected Repubs.

292 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:02:22am

re: #285 Decatur Deb

Whimper of Despair. It’s useful if it keeps us from becoming complacent, harmful if it justifies another grail quest for a King Nader.

That is why I said it may be over the top. I think it is something that needs to be seriously considered because to me it speaks more to those that are not so involved or up on politics. That would be the 66% that are not involved…and not members of LGF.

There is no given in modern politics due to the way the messages are delivered. We have no news media. That means the big lies are easier to get out.

293 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 10:02:26am

CONVICTED? In what alternative history timeline?

294 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:04:33am

re: #293 Vicious Piebola

CONVICTED? In what alternative history timeline?

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In the same court JFK was sentenced.

295 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:04:47am

re: #293 Vicious Piebola

CONVICTED? In what alternative history timeline?

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Young Conservatives are the worst. (He’s prolly 50.)

296 Kragar  Nov 17, 2014 10:05:37am
297 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:06:20am

re: #296 Kragar

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Which one was paying her per diem?

298 Iwouldprefernotto  Nov 17, 2014 10:07:27am

re: #296 Kragar

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We’re on a mission from Drudge…

299 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 10:07:55am

Well, back. That went well, I think. The reference letters from my priest and my current manager probably will help too ;) He’s got interviews to run yet today and tomorrow so I’ll probably not find out till Wednesday.

300 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:08:15am

re: #296 Kragar

[Disrupter of Muslim prayer at National Cathedral: God and Drudge sent me rawstory.com …]

Drudge and his tribe of followers will probably take that to mean Drudge is God.

So many gods these days and so little time.

/

301 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 10:08:26am

re: #296 Kragar

If a Muslim did that to a Christian prayer service, this person would probably be screaming terrorism!!11ty

302 Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2014 10:09:11am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Preeamble talks about general welfare.

That is what I tweeted them back.

303 Lancelot Link  Nov 17, 2014 10:09:50am

re: #293 Vicious Piebola

Not a very original idea….

304 #FergusonFireside  Nov 17, 2014 10:10:15am

re: #285 Decatur Deb

Whimper of Despair. It’s useful if it keeps us from becoming complacent, harmful if it justifies another grail quest for a King Nader.

Bernie Sanders.

305 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:11:00am

re: #301 lawhawk

If a Muslim did that to a Christian prayer service, this person would probably be screaming terrorism!!11ty

Onward Christian Soldiers and all.

Thankfully there were not guns involved.

This time.

306 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:11:14am

re: #304 Resident of The United States of Jesus

Bernie Sanders.

Too smart and too responsible to take it.

307 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 10:12:04am

re: #303 Lancelot Link

Not a very original idea….

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Ayep. And if you read through the “charges,” you might experience a sensation of deja vu.

308 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 10:13:01am

re: #304 Resident of The United States of Jesus

Bernie Sanders.

If he runs, he’ll do it with in the Democratic party primary system. But, alas, I don’t think the party could get behind him or Warren.

Sen Gillespie might bridge the gap, especially if she got Sen Baldwin as her running mate.

309 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 10:14:34am

re: #308 William Barnett-Lewis

If he runs, he’ll do it with in the Democratic party primary system. But, alas, I don’t think the party could get behind him or Warren.

Sen Gillespie might bridge the gap, especially if she got Sen Baldwin as her running mate.

Joe Biden is the only Democrat who has a chance of taking it away from Hillary.

But we don’t know. Obama just came out of freaking NOWHERE.

310 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:14:42am

re: #308 William Barnett-Lewis

If he runs, he’ll do it with in the Democratic party primary system. But, alas, I don’t think the party could get behind him or Warren.

Sen Gillespie might bridge the gap, especially if she got Sen Baldwin as her running mate.

The GOP nominee and the Dem nominee will both be people who have long-established, well-funded, political infrastucture.

311 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:15:49am

re: #309 Vicious Piebola

Joe Biden is the only Democrat who has a chance of taking it away from Hillary.

But we don’t know. Obama just came out of freaking NOWHERE.

That happens once a generation, and it wasn’t as spontaneous as it seems.

312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 10:18:37am

re:
#308

Sen Gillespie might bridge the gap, especially if she got Sen Baldwin as her running mate.

Sen Gillespie?

313 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:18:43am

From that article about the Muslim prayer service at the National Cathedral…

During her long drive to the nation’s capital she saw what she believed was a sign from God.

“There’s this woman stepping out of her vehicle on the side of the road, clapping and giving me two thumbs up, and I’m like, ‘That was the strangest thing,’ ” she said. “The first thing that went through my mind was, ‘That’s my confirmation right there.’ That’s all I needed, and from that point on I knew this was something I’m going to do; and that was the catapult that moved me to keep going towards Washington.”

Uh, that may have been the woman on the side of the road hoping someone would pull over and lend a hand, maybe call for service or something. You know like Jesus was said to care about your fellow man in a time of need.

So the thumbs up and clapping could well have been just a bit sarcastic as a “hey, way to go, way to help…(thumbs up)…asshole kind of demonstration.

314 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 10:19:28am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

That happens once a generation, and it wasn’t as spontaneous as it seems.

Agreed that he had the pump primed a bit, but the 2 women I mentioned have managed similar levels of notice. Tammy could really rake in the money since she has been out her whole political life.

315 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:19:31am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

That happens once a generation, and it wasn’t as spontaneous as it seems.

He was a rising star since 2004.
No new such stars on the horizon.

316 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 10:19:48am

re:
#313

That’s all I needed, and from that point on I knew this was something I’m going to do;

These are very serious people. /

317 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 10:20:33am

I’m shocked, shocked that there’s corruption and depravity at the Ferguson Police Department.

And I’m not shocked either that video emerged showing Wilson arresting a man for videotaping him. All for an act that is protected under the US and state constitution.

Wilson got his start at a police department in Jennings that was disbanded over racism and discrimination. He went to work at a police department that has likewise institutionalized racism and whose local government is supported in large part on the arrest fees and charges of local residents - further locking in the deprived status as upward mobility is limited. Ferguson PD disproportionately stops blacks in car stops, even though whites generally are found to have more contraband.

318 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 17, 2014 10:21:41am

re: #312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#308

Sen Gillespie?

Argh. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. Brain fart, magnitude 6.

319 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 10:22:20am

Cletus is passing by Billy Bob’s hay barn one day when, through a gap in the door, he sees Billy Bob doing a slow and sensual striptease in front
of an old green John Deere.

Buttocks clenched, he performs a slow pirouette, and gently slides off first the right strap of his overalls, followed by the left.

He then hunches his shoulders forward and in a classic striptease move, lets his overalls fall down to his hips, revealing a torn and frayed plaid shirt.

Then, grabbing both sides of his shirt, he rips it apart to reveal his stained T-shirt underneath. With a final flourish, he tears the T-shirt from his body, and hurls his baseball cap onto a pile of hay.

Having seen enough, Cletus rushes in and
says, “What the world’re ya doing, Billy Bob?”

“Good grief, Cletus, ya scared the bejeebers out of me,” says an obviously embarrassed Billy Bob,
“But me ‘n the wife been havin trouble lately in the bedroom department, and the therapist suggested I do something sexy to a tractor.”

320 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:22:23am

re: #313 ObserverArt

That’s all I needed, and from that point on I knew this was something I’m going to do

“Also, I’m not in a mental ward and I vote.”

321 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:23:42am

re: #309 Vicious Piebola

Joe Biden is the only Democrat who has a chance of taking it away from Hillary.

But we don’t know. Obama just came out of freaking NOWHERE.

I know what you are saying…but Obama made a pretty big impression in 2004 with his keynote address at the Dem Convention. It was pretty easy to see where he was headed.

Julian Castro did a nice job in 2012, but I don’t think he hit the nation with the impact Obama did. Oratory skills count. Obama has ‘em big time.

322 sagehen  Nov 17, 2014 10:25:19am

re: #309 Vicious Piebola

Joe Biden is the only Democrat who has a chance of taking it away from Hillary.

But we don’t know. Obama just came out of freaking NOWHERE.

Not really; Obama’s 2004 keynote gave the anyone-but-hillary crowd someone to coalesce around. The Kossacks were hugely in his favor, turned up to his book signings in droves, begged him to run, it was practically a draft. Add in that Axelrod and his staff were very, very good at their jobs, and Mark Penn really wasn’t…

In a year that was pre-determined (for Bush reasons) to be a Dem landslide…

323 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:26:50am

re: #321 ObserverArt

I know what you are saying…but Obama made a pretty big impression in 2004 with his keynote address at the Dem Convention. It was pretty easy to see where he was headed.

Julian Castro did a nice job in 2012, but I don’t think he hit the nation with the impact Obama did. Oratory skills count. Obama has ‘em big time.

Like FDR, Obama was a leap the Dems could afford to risk because they were electing in the aftermath of a GOP fuckup.

324 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:29:04am

re: #322 sagehen

Not really; Obama’s 2004 keynote gave the anyone-but-hillary crowd someone to coalesce around. The Kossacks were hugely in his favor, turned up to his book signings in droves, begged him to run, it was practically a draft. Add in that Axelrod and his staff were very, very good at their jobs, and Mark Penn really wasn’t…

In a year that was pre-determined (for Bush reasons) to be a Dem landslide…

re: #323 Decatur Deb

Like FDR, Obama was a leap the Dems could afford to risk because they were electing in the aftermath of a GOP fuckup.

Yes to both. And with the GOP showing issues within the party and looking like a government shutdown is again in the cards…the Republicans could be blowing a foot off their party before this year is out.

325 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 10:32:16am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Yes to both. And with the GOP showing issues within the party and looking like a government shutdown is again in the cards…the Republican could be blowing a foot off their party before this year is out.

Yet they’ve a convenient excuse, as always: “He’s forcing us to do this by using EOs!” So I’m not as hopeful that this will sour voters further on the idea of leaving the GOP in charge.

326 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:34:30am

re: #313 ObserverArt

From that article about the Muslim prayer service at the National Cathedral…

Uh, that may have been the woman on the side of the road hoping someone would pull over and lend a hand, maybe call for service or something. You know like Jesus was said to care about your fellow man in a time of need.

So the thumbs up and clapping could well have been just a bit sarcastic as a “hey, way to go, way to help…(thumbs up)…asshole kind of demonstration.

Joan of Derp.

327 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 10:34:39am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Yes to both. And with the GOP showing issues within the party and looking like a government shutdown is again in the cards…the Republican could be blowing a foot off their party before this year is out.

Just like they shot that foot off last year when they shut the government down for real… not.

At this point I don’t think there is anything horrific enough for the party to do that will get the American voters to turn them out on their asses, especially when most voters don’t see an alternative.

328 BeachDem  Nov 17, 2014 10:38:41am

re: #291 Decatur Deb

Looks like he found some unskewed polls that put her behind selected Repubs.

I wondered where those polls came from—in the comments, the diary author said they were hypotheticals he made up to prove a point. Seemed like pretty weak sauce to me.

329 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 10:40:06am

re: #328 BeachDem

I wondered where those polls came from—in the comments, the diary author said they were hypotheticals he made up to prove a point. Seemed like pretty weak sauce to me.

Didn’t see that in the comments. In that case, he’s a simple bullshitter.

330 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:42:11am

re: #327 allegro

Just like they shot that foot off last year when they shut the government down for real… not.

At this point I don’t think there is anything horrific enough for the party to do that will get the American voters to turn them out on their asses, especially when most voters don’t see an alternative.

True. I guess I mean that a try by the TeaParty members to go around Mitch and Boehnhead and shut the government down could cause a meltdown within the party that says to America “we are not very responsible at all and as you can see, we can’t be trusted with the current clown show” you all helped (or not) vote in 2014.

And like I keep emphasizing, it would also take the news media to grow a sense of responsibility and report some facts. And even if they will still be in full entertainment mode, maybe they see some entertainment in taking big digs at the Republicans.

Who knows, maybe Chuck Todd makes it into a few Democratic commercials next time. ///

331 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:42:57am

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Didn’t see that in the comments. In that case, he’s a simple bullshitter.

He didn’t pretend they are real… but let others think they’re real. Well, probably a miscommunication.

332 Kragar  Nov 17, 2014 10:44:51am
333 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 10:46:00am

re: #328 BeachDem

I wondered where those polls came from—in the comments, the diary author said they were hypotheticals he made up to prove a point. Seemed like pretty weak sauce to me.

It was an attention-getter, something to shake Dems out of complacency and an assumption that our candidates will win during the next national election cuz demographics. It’s an effective tactic and nothing wrong with it as long as the author makes it clear that he’s using hypotheticals.

The overall message is real and essential.

334 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:47:35am

Chuck can’t help it.

335 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 10:49:03am

Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.

337 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:50:55am

re: #336 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Liberian national Thomas Eric Duncan died in Dallas last month after contracting the virus in Monrovia.

338 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:51:17am

re: #334 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Chuck can’t help it.

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I guess he forgot about Amber Vinson already.

I think a brain scan of Chucky C. Johnson would be a great thing for science. That boy’s thinker works in very unusual ways. It might look like a dorm room of college freshman guys at the end of a school year.

339 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:51:48am

re: #338 ObserverArt

I guess he forgot about Amber Vinson already.

I think a brain scan of Chucky C. Johnson would be a great thing for science. That boy’s thinker works in very unusual ways. It might look like a dorm room of college freshman guys at the end of a school year.

A what scan?

340 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 10:51:59am

re: #336 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

A surgeon from Sierra Leone who was being treated for Ebola in the US has died, a Nebraska hospital announced.

I know about that. He got the disease in Sierra Leone, not the US, and was here for treatment. The two people who got the disease here in the US both survived.

341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 10:52:13am

re:
#334

Ebola has killed two black people in America but no white people. Is ebola racist?

—Archmoron blogger Chuck c. Johnson.

342 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 10:52:25am

re: #328 BeachDem

I wondered where those polls came from—in the comments, the diary author said they were hypotheticals he made up to prove a point. Seemed like pretty weak sauce to me.

I saw that too, which is why I said the diary is mostly butthurt.

343 Flounder  Nov 17, 2014 10:52:42am

re: #335 allegro

344 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:52:52am

re: #335 allegro

Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.

You are not a new journalist are you???

You still like that old stuff that wasn’t as punchy and had those burdensome and tricky to read and understand facts.

///

345 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:53:00am

re: #340 allegro

Your claim was “Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.”. Yet it did, twice.

346 BeachDem  Nov 17, 2014 10:54:31am

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Didn’t see that in the comments. In that case, he’s a simple bullshitter.

That’s the main reason I read the comments—to see where the polls came from. The author’s comment (which let me to agree with your analysis)

There are no links. (4+ / 0-)
The polls are hypothetical.

Just like predictions of a 51-49 or 52-48 Republican Senate.

by Dartagnan on Mon Nov 17, 2014 at 08:09:12 AM PST

347 Kragar  Nov 17, 2014 10:55:17am

re: #343 Flounder

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Newt Gingrich has had more wives than American’s killed by Ebola.

348 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 10:55:38am

re: #345 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Your claim was “Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.”. Yet it did, twice.

Let’s put it this way: someone gets shot in Mexico. The person dies in the U.S. In which country was the person killed?

349 BeachDem  Nov 17, 2014 10:56:45am

re: #331 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He didn’t pretend they are real… but let others think they’re real. Well, probably a miscommunication.

It was the way they were printed, in the little orange boxes, which on KOS usually indicates direct quoting from something.

350 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 10:56:45am

re: #348 allegro

Let’s put it this way: someone gets shot in Mexico. The person dies in the U.S. In which country was the person killed?

He wasn’t killed in Mexico, that’s for sure.

351 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:56:50am

re: #345 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Your claim was “Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.”. Yet it did, twice.

Split hair word play. Chucky relies on it, as do many a New Journalist.

352 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 10:57:01am

re: #334 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Chuck can’t help it.

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The doctor who just passed had just been transferred to Nebraska; he had been getting treatment in West Africa, but his condition declined quickly.

Eric Duncan’s treatment at Dallas Presbyterian is well documented, and the hospital already settled with the family over his poor treatment and delays in getting proper treatment.

As before, Ebola is survivable, especially with early diagnosis and prompt treatment.

Pond scum, let alone village idiots, don’t want to be associated with Chuck Johnson because of just how insanely idiotic (and sociopathic) Johnson truly is.

353 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 10:58:55am

re: #350 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He wasn’t killed in Mexico, that’s for sure.

So, are you going to do a search for the killer in the US?

I don’t want you as a cop!

/

354 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 10:59:30am

re: #345 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Your claim was “Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the U.S.”. Yet it did, twice.

Semantics.

There have been no transmitted cases of Ebola in the US resulting in a fatality.

The two cases where patients died of Ebola in the US are the results of the following:

1) the transfer of a patient already in critical condition to the Nebraska facility;
2) Eric Duncan at Dallas Presbyterian. His poor treatment and intake was result of a series of unfortunate errors at the hospital that not only prevented early diagnosis and treatment, but further allowed two transmission cases to nurses. The nurses have since recovered.

355 Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:03:57am

re: #343 Flounder

And yet I see no panic of the pandemic that is a marriage to Kim K.

356 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:05:39am

re: #353 ObserverArt

So, are you going to do a search for the killer in the US?

I don’t want you as a cop!

/

Suppose he survives after being shot by Mr. X. Nothing else has changed between the time he was shot and then left Mexico. Yet in one case he supposedly was killed in Mexico, in the other he wasn’t. To repeat, all the conditions while in Mexico are the same. So the claim that he was killed in Mexico leads to an absurdity. It is only applicable if he was both wounded and died there.

Now, he can’t be said to have been killed by Mr. X. in the US as well. Let’s just say he was killed by Mr. X. in America. It can, however, be said that he was killed (in a slightly different sense) by the bullet in the US.

So, these two men were killed by Ebola in the US.

357 Franklin  Nov 17, 2014 11:07:27am

re: #356 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Suppose he survives after being shot by Mr. X. Nothing else has changed between the time he was shot and then left Mexico. Yet in one case he supposedly was killed in Mexico, in the other he wasn’t. To repeat, all the conditions while in Mexico are the same. So the claim that he was killed in Mexico leads to an absurdity. It is only applicable if he was both wounded and died there.

Now, he can’t be said to have been killed by Mr. X. in the US as well. Let’s just say he was killed by Mr. X. in America. It can, however, be said that he was killed (in slightly different sense) by the bullet in the US.

So, these two men were killed by Ebola in the US.

Schrodinger’s Ebola

358 Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:10:15am

re: #356 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

So, these two men were killed by Ebola in the US.

It would probably be more accurate to state it as, Two men died in the US from the effects of Ebola Infection.

359 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:10:33am

re: #358 Apocalypse

It would probably be more accurate to state it as, Two men died in the US from the effects of Ebola Infection.

Semantics.
/

360 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:11:35am

re:;
#358

It would probably be more accurate to state it as, Two men died in the US from the effects of Ebola Infection.

which was contracted outside of the U.S.

361 Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:12:09am

re: #359 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

You say Potato, I say I ordered the curly fries.

362 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 11:13:33am

I really hate that Batman slapping Robin meme.

363 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 11:14:21am

re: #359 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Semantics.
/

I think there is a distinct difference in the word kill and died. I think you may be getting them a bit crossed up.

You won’t find either “killer” in the US, but both men did “die” here.

The killer is still Ebola and the killer that both men died from is still in Africa.

Words…what do they mean?

364 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2014 11:16:43am
365 Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2014 11:18:55am

re: #283 ObserverArt

If everyone can find the time…read the Dialy KOS article Sergey has linked. It is pretty sobering. It may be a little over the top, but then it may be spot on. It is worrisome at the very least.

Anyone who is still pretending that the Dems don’t have a huge age problem is living on Fantasy Island. Rep. Mike Honda (73) who just beat a much younger challenger says he expects to live to 103, and I guess he plans to stay in Congress until he keels over. The same goes for Diane Feinstein (81), Nancy Pelosi (74), Barbara Boxer (74), Harry Reid (74), Steny Hoyer (75) and on and on and on.

If the Dems don’t make way for some new blood in the party the GOP is going to walk away with the millennials. So what do they do?

They give Harry Reid and Nancy Peolosi another term as party leaders. If the party doesn’t dump the disastrous Debby Wasserman-Schultz from being the DNC chair it tells me that the Dems are fossilized relics of the distant past with no idea how to connect to voters of today.

Say hello to 50 years of Republican rule.

366 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 11:19:08am

re: #359 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Semantics.
/

It does make a difference when we have the incessant “We’re all gonna die from ebola!” media and political drumbeat that very recently had too much of the American public scared shitless. There is no threat to the general public in the U.S. from ebola at this point in time and there probably won’t be in the future.

367 BeachDem  Nov 17, 2014 11:21:10am

And following his “ebola has killed two black people” tweet, upchuck sinks even lower with

368 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:23:50am

re: #363 ObserverArt

I think there is a distinct difference in the word kill and died. I think you may be getting them a bit crossed up.

If killing and dying from killing are separated, it leads to numerous absurdities. E.g. someone is wounded in Washington, lives on for 60 more years in London with the bullet, then dies from its effects. It is right to say that the killer was the one who mortally wounded him or her, but it’s absurd to say that he was killed in Washington (only to live 60 more years in London after (s)he was killed in Washington).

You won’t find either “killer” in the US, but both men did “die” here.

No, the killer was in their bodies.

The killer is still Ebola and the killer that both men died from is still in Africa.

Words…what do they mean?

Words mean a lot. Which is why it’s simply wrong to say that Ebola didn’t kill anyone in the US.

369 Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2014 11:24:10am

That video by Anonymous about the KKK has been removed by YouTube:

370 Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:26:12am

re: #369 Charles Johnson

Mirrors of the video will up in no time.

371 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 17, 2014 11:26:42am

re: #369 Charles Johnson

That video by Anonymous about the KKK has been removed by YouTube:

Tell me again what Anon’s position was on “Ethics in Gaming Journalism”

372 Mike Lamb  Nov 17, 2014 11:27:19am

re: #367 BeachDem

And following his “ebola has killed two black people” tweet, upchuck sinks even lower with

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Wow…that’s just dumb.

373 allegro  Nov 17, 2014 11:28:49am

re: #368 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

If killing and dying from killing are separated, it leads to numerous absurdities. E.g. someone is wounded in Washington, lives on for 60 more years in London with the bullet, then dies from its effects. It is right to say that the killer was the one who mortally wounded him or her, but it’s absurd to say that he was killed in Washington (only to live 60 more years in London after (s)he was killed in Washington).

And yet… Robbie Middleton.

374 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:28:50am

Here’s the thing - Anon can be “anyone”. What stops the racists from organizing their own Anon?

375 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:31:05am

re: #373 allegro

And yet… Robbie Middleton.

Not sure what your point is. Your link doesn’t contradict anything I wrote.

376 Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2014 11:38:10am

re: #374 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Here’s the thing - Anon can be “anyone”. What stops the racists from organizing their own Anon?

Long division.

377 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 11:43:03am

re: #368 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

If killing and dying from killing are separated, it leads to numerous absurdities. E.g. someone is wounded in Washington, lives on for 60 more years in London with the bullet, then dies from its effects. It is right to say that the killer was the one who mortally wounded him or her, but it’s absurd to say that he was killed in Washington (only to live 60 more years in London after (s)he was killed in Washington).

No, the killer was in their bodies.

Words mean a lot. Which is why it’s simply wrong to say that Ebola didn’t kill anyone in the US.

You are not going to give this up easily are you?

But you do present a good argument as to why words do count and how they do need to be used properly to transmit the actual facts.

Kill is the wrong word for this whole story. It would have been much more succinct to say there have been two deaths in the United States due to Ebola. Or if you want to use “kill” say two people were killed by Ebola contacted in Africa. A further description that was needed.

Using kill may tell a story but it is not clear in actual meaning. This debate over the word makes that very clear.

All the New Journalist Chuck C. needed to do was tweet: “Two black people in America died due to Ebola, but no white people. Is ebola racist?”

Would you agree it is the same message without the question as to where the cause for the death originated? Or, are you hung up on the word kill?

To me if Chucky would have tweeted it like I rewrote it above this whole debate would never have happened. That is why using the most appropriate word is key. No misunderstanding. But then, New Journalists might just want that misunderstanding.

Hopefully you understand my/our point too. It is a lazy use of the word.

378 Apocalypse  Nov 17, 2014 11:43:24am

re: #376 Decatur Deb

The correct spelling of English words.

379 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 17, 2014 11:47:12am

re: #365 Skip Intro

If the Dems don’t make way for some new blood in the party the GOP is going to walk away with the millennials.

I’m not familiar with how down ballot races go, but I really can’t see that happening.

380 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 11:48:58am
381 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 11:48:59am

Later on…I’ve already “killed” enough time. If I don’t get something done, I may just die!

: )

382 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:48:59am

re: #377 ObserverArt

I’m not inclined to seriously discuss Chuck’s tweets, even as I post them for entertainment and mockery. The discussion concerns allegro’s comment. “Kill” is not the right word for this whole situation, but if someone does make a claim about Ebola “not killing”, that’s the claim one has to deal with. That’s the way it was formulated.

383 #FergusonFireside  Nov 17, 2014 11:49:51am
384 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 11:50:21am

McInnes published this at Taki: “10 Black Things Liberals Just Don’t Understand”. As you can imagine, it’s not better than his piece about women.

385 Jenner7  Nov 17, 2014 11:58:55am
386 ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2014 12:01:26pm

re: #382 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I’m not inclined to seriously discuss Chuck’s tweets, even as I post them for entertainment and mockery. The discussion concerns allegro’s comment. “Kill” is not the right word for this whole situation, but if someone does make a claim about Ebola “not killing”, that’s the claim one has to deal with. That’s the way it was formulated.

And with that you just admitted it was semantics all along.

This isn’t about Chucky C Johnson to me. It is about how words get used.

I am trying to make a point that people have gotten ignorant about words…vocabulary is at an all-time low. And it has hurt reporting, writing, art like poetry, etc. And because of all that, people get mislead easily and they don’t even know it.

I am a very firm believer in education. I think that is the biggest problem we have in this country. And I think there is a reason for it all. Control. Keep ‘em ignorant and you can get away with anything, and they think it is for their own good.

It is why the first thing anyone that wants control goes after books and the like. Kill the truth that is in the words.

/// By the way, Lawhawk wins!

387 lawhawk  Nov 17, 2014 12:04:16pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

I win what precisely? //

388 Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2014 12:04:32pm

re: #385 Jenner7

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I’d say that’s a good sign they expect an announcement to be made in the near future.

389 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 12:05:50pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

And with that you just admitted it was semantics all along.

This isn’t about Chucky C Johnson to me. It is about how words get used.

How words get used = (per def) semantics :)

390 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 17, 2014 12:06:10pm

re: #387 lawhawk

I win what precisely? //

Ebola plushy.

391 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 17, 2014 12:07:01pm

re: #379 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I’m not familiar with how down ballot races go, but I really can’t see that happening.

The GOP might not walk away with the millenials. They won’t need to if our party fails engage them sufficiently enough to get them to show up at the polls. Both the 2010 and 2014 midterms expose the weakness of Democrats relying on demographic groups with a historically low turnout. For us here on LGF “Not the Republican” is usually enough. It’s obviously not enough to keep the Republicans from having majorities in both houses of Congress. Obama was able to identify and speak to the aspirations of those demographics. An old White nominee who isn’t a powerful speaker and/or who fails to offer a compelling vision of where they want to take the nation is in danger of handing the White House to the Republicans by default.


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