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Certain to be the cause of a major eruption of right wing craziness, the President announced his speech on immigration reform tonight on Facebook, and with a post at the White House blog by Josh Earnest: Tune In: The President Addresses the Nation on Immigration Reform | the White House.

Our immigration system has been broken for decades — and every minute we fail to act, millions of people who live in the shadows but want to play by the rules and pay taxes have no way to live right by the law and contribute to our country.

So tomorrow night, President Obama will address the nation to lay out the executive actions he’s taking to fix our broken immigration system. You can watch the President live tomorrow night at 8 p.m. ET at whitehouse.gov.

This is a step forward in the President’s plan to work with Congress on passing common-sense, comprehensive immigration reform. He laid out his principles for that reform two years ago in Del Sol High School in Las Vegas — and that’s where he’ll return on Friday to discuss why he is using his executive authority now, and why Republicans in Congress must act to pass a long-term solution to immigration reform.

We’ll be there with a live video thread, of course.

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1 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 5:53:03pm

I’ve been waiting for something like this for years.

2 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 19, 2014 5:54:42pm
3 Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2014 5:54:44pm
4 darthstar  Nov 19, 2014 5:57:49pm

I hope Obama goes big tomorrow. As big as his constitutional law knowledge will allow. Fuck the GOP.

Oh, and fuck Bill Cosby too.

5 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 5:58:36pm

Wait for that cool, collected reaction.

6 darthstar  Nov 19, 2014 6:03:07pm

Heat map of how likely you are to step in poop. Notice there’s no brownage near the zoo.

Linkage: thebolditalic.com

7 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:03:27pm

re: #1 Kragar

I’ve been waiting for something like this for years.

There’s really no stopping it now.

There are a couple of Latino children in my g-grandson’s preschool class.

And a teaching assistant who is also Latino. She and the mothers speak Spanish with each other which doesn’t bother me at all. I had them laughing when I told my grandson, “Besame mucho” when I was leaving one day.

I’m going to encourage my g-grandson to learn a few words/phrases and perhaps do some Spanish immersion at a later date (assuming I’m still around), and maybe other languages, too. Why do Americans resist other languages so much?

I have hope, though, and it’s with the kids. : )

8 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:07:56pm

re: #7 Justanotherhuman

There’s really no stopping it now.

There are a couple of Latino children in my g-grandson’s preschool class.

And a teaching assistant who is also Latino. She and the mothers speak Spanish with each other which doesn’t bother me at all. I had them laughing when I told my grandson, “Besame mucho” when I was leaving one day.

I’m going to encourage my g-grandson to learn a few words/phrases and perhaps do some Spanish immersion at a later date (assuming I’m still around), and maybe other languages, too. Why do Americans resist other languages so much?

I have hope, though, and it’s with the kids. : )

I’ve been forced to try to deal with foreign in-laws for years, begging them to send us documentation we need, with sporadic responses and vague promises, but them never getting around to it. Anything to get around that will be appreciated.

9 Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2014 6:08:16pm

This should be concerning…….

I’m now convinced we are just a different kind of savage.

Youtube Video

G2 calls it “the last round you will ever need” and describes its effects as “radically invasive.” As you’ll see in the video, the bullet doesn’t just stay in one piece upon entering it’s target. The round uses its forward momentum to send the edges of the bullet ripping apart into your attacker. This not only puts a round into the target, it also sends shrapnel into various parts of the body as well, effectively destroying vital organs.

Bad Bullet

10 Kid A  Nov 19, 2014 6:08:21pm

re: #6 darthstar

Nor in the area as known as “Dogpatch,” lol.

11 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2014 6:09:37pm

re: #4 darthstar

I hope Obama goes big tomorrow. As big as his constitutional law knowledge will allow. Fuck the GOP.

Oh, and fuck Bill Cosby too.

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He was VERY funny during his early career. Noah, the Chicken Heart, the Russell sketch - brilliant stuff. After the 60s? Not so much. But to learn what we’ve learned really taints those memories.

12 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2014 6:10:28pm

re: #6 darthstar

Heat map of how likely you are to step in poop. Notice there’s no brownage near the zoo.

Linkage: thebolditalic.com

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My yard isn’t on that map. It would be the dark, dark patch in San Mateo!

13 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:10:36pm

Time to fuck with TCOT

The mistake is this statement was made by Reagan in 1984

14 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2014 6:12:58pm

re: #13 Kragar

Time to fuck with TCOT

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The mistake is this statement was made by Reagan in 1984

Where’s that picture of the laughing dog?

15 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:12:59pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

This should be concerning…….

I’m now convinced we are just a different kind of savage.

Bad Bullet

Just reading the comments convinces me.

16 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2014 6:16:06pm

re: #15 Justanotherhuman

Just reading the comments convinces me.

Call in the asteroids….

17 lawhawk  Nov 19, 2014 6:16:19pm

The GOP will go batcrap insane, no matter how sensible the actions taken are. Even if the President simply provides the same exact actions as President Reagan did years back, they’ll claim it was unconstitutional or somehow in violation of … well… something.

That’s despite pretty much every recent President invoking an EO on immigration that was eventually codified into law.

That’d include amending the number of refugees that were admitted (and the President ought to reiterate that very language in his EO - just to rub it in).

Entry of persons into the US under EO 12172, etc.

18 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 6:18:02pm
19 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 6:18:26pm

Way I figure it, the man has put this off for months, has time and again brought up EOs as a method of addressing the problems with the system, and each time Republicans have threatened to junk immigration reform altogether if he went through with it. Now they’re saying that the bill that has sat on Boehner’s desk for months will instead be junked and we’ll start from scratch next year.

Fuck that, this was a bipartisan bill, it had bipartisan support, and it deserved a vote in both houses of Congress. It’s way past time to call the GOP’s bluff.

20 dog philosopher  Nov 19, 2014 6:18:38pm

original intent, i suppose, means nothing in regard to immigration, since it was virtually unrestricted from 1789 until sometime around 1920 iirc

21 Lidane  Nov 19, 2014 6:22:28pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

original intent, i suppose, means nothing in regard to immigration, since it was virtually unrestricted from 1789 until sometime around 1920 iirc

Original intent only matters when a Republican is in office. Also, it only applies to the Second Amendment.

Why do you hate America?

22 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:23:56pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

original intent, i suppose, means nothing in regard to immigration, since it was virtually unrestricted from 1789 until sometime around 1920 iirc

The majority of immigrants by 1910 were the “swarthy” eastern and southern Europeans, not as preferred as those from the British Empire and northern Europe, who had preceded them, of course.

Something had to be done about it!

23 goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2014 6:28:18pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

This should be concerning…….

I’m now convinced we are just a different kind of savage.

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It’s just another frangible design, they’ve been on the market for years. The effects look scary as hell on ballistic gelatin. I’m all for outlawing them simply because they make a surgeon’s job a total fucking nightmare, but this isn’t a new development. On the plus side they don’t penetrate through walls, on the down side unlike hollow-points they don’t retain enough mass to be useful hunting medium or large game. The sole use is for killing civilians.

24 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:29:13pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle” stays with me. Jack London called it “The Uncle Tom’s Cabin” of wage slavery.

25 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:29:35pm

Every time I see wingnut say “Immigration reform is just a ploy to get votes for the Democrats” I see a tacit admission by the wingnut that the GOP has done nothing for immigrants and cannot attract minority support

26 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 6:30:29pm

re: #22 Justanotherhuman

We did ban Chinese from becoming citizens after they helped build the railroads. So we were being hypocrites a litter earlier than 1910.

27 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:34:25pm

Any one committing violence over immigration should be considered a terrorist and dealt with accordingly

28 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 19, 2014 6:35:52pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

This should be concerning…….

I’m now convinced we are just a different kind of savage.

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Every few years some manufacturer or other comes up with what’s touted as the ultimate self-defense round. The announcements are always complete with photos of the thing devastating ballistic gel, watermelons, plywood or something else. And they always turn out to be crap under actual field conditions - except when fired at ballistic gel, watermelons, etc. But they do sell a lot of them to gun fuckers who can no longer masturbate to hollow points.

The most effective anti-personnel round that I know of has been around for years and it’s advertised for its safety characteristics, not for it’s ability to kill.

29 Lidane  Nov 19, 2014 6:35:57pm

re: #27 Kragar

Any one committing violence over immigration should be considered a terrorist and dealt with accordingly

The only terrorist is the Nazi commie Muslin usurper in the White House using immigration reform to bring ISIS Ebola babies across the southern border.

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30 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 6:37:44pm

re: #29 Lidane

It’s truly frightening to realize that millions and millions of ISIS Ebola babies have stealthily been living among us for years.

31 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:38:04pm

re: #26 Belafon

We did ban Chinese from becoming citizens after they helped build the railroads. So we were being hypocrites a litter earlier than 1910.

We’ve always been hypocrites. From the beginning. I mean, imagine designating a person as only being 3/5 of a human being.

32 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 19, 2014 6:39:26pm

re: #27 Kragar

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Any one committing violence over immigration should be considered a terrorist and dealt with accordingly

A white person is never a terrorist. He is a “lone wolf known to have mental problems.”

33 Justanotherhuman  Nov 19, 2014 6:41:44pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards!

Later. : )

34 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 6:42:15pm

re: #25 Kragar

Every time I see wingnut say “Immigration reform is just a ploy to get votes for the Democrats” I see a tacit admission by the wingnut that the GOP has done nothing for immigrants and cannot attract minority support

I see it as an admission that they’ve nothing to offer immigrants. They don’t know how to win over people who think that the community should look after its members, instead of “every man for himself.” Don’t know what to offer people who think good public schools, efficient public services, and assistance to the least fortunate are the things by which America should be defined. It totally boggles their minds how they’re not winning over people who they know have strong religious sentiments with their 1950s-era social policies.

35 TedStriker  Nov 19, 2014 6:44:08pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

We’ve always been hypocrites. From the beginning. I mean, imagine designating a person as only being 3/5 of a human being.

36 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 6:44:35pm

re: #27 Kragar

I think more accurately it should be: Cobourn ‘I want to see violence following immigration order”

37 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:45:15pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

I think more accurately it should be: Cobourn ‘I want to see violence following immigration order”

38 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 6:47:50pm
39 Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2014 6:48:25pm

Stupidest tweet of the day:

40 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 6:49:24pm

re: #26 Belafon

We did ban Chinese from becoming citizens after they helped build the railroads. So we were being hypocrites a litter earlier than 1910.

It was the “yellow peril” back then, first applied to the Chinese laborers, then to the Japanese. The reasons, aside from racism, were:

the fear that the mass immigration of Asians threatened white wages and standards of living, and the fear that they would eventually take over and destroy western civilization, replacing it with their ways of life and values.

en.wikipedia.org

In other words, the same fears and bigotry as we see now regarding Central American immigrants. Asians are now (barely) OK.

41 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 6:49:56pm

Okay, I’m helping my son do a poster board on George Washington. Underneath his name will be “Our Nations First President”. Is it “Nation’s” or “Nations”??

I’m embarrassed I even have to ask, but oh well. :)

42 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 6:50:56pm

Decatur, are you and Wife listening? Dog, I hope so.

43 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 6:51:16pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Stupidest tweet of the day:

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Justice Anthony Kennedy:

“…Congress has specified which aliens may be removed from the United States and the procedures for doing so. Aliens may be removed if they were inadmissible at the time of entry, have been convicted of certain crimes, or meet other criteria set by federal law. Removal is a civil, not criminal, matter. A principal feature of the removal system is the broad discretion exercised by immigration officials. Federal officials, as an initial matter, must decide whether it makes sense to pursue removal at all. If removal proceedings commence, aliens may seek asylum and other discretionary relief allowing them to remain in the country or at least to leave without formal removal.”
www2.bloomberglaw.com

44 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 6:51:47pm

Conservatives see no nuance in anything. It has to be black and white.

DEM FURRNERS RR TAKIN ARE JRRBS

They were little kids when their parents brought them here…

DEPORT EM! ALLS THEY DO IS SEND ALL THERE MONY BAK TO MEHEEKO

45 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 6:52:07pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Possessive is correct: Nation’s First President.

Very similar to: On this week’s agenda.

46 TedStriker  Nov 19, 2014 6:52:37pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Okay, I’m helping my son do a poster board on George Washington. Underneath his name will be “Our Nations First President”. Is it “Nation’s” or “Nations”??

Embarrassed I have to ask, but oh well. :)

“Nation” is singular, therefore the possessive would be “Nation’s”.

47 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 6:52:56pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Okay, I’m helping my son do a poster board on George Washington. Underneath his name will be “Our Nations First President”. Is it “Nation’s” or “Nations”??

I’m embarrassed I even have to ask, but oh well. :)

Nation’s — possessive of nation

48 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 6:53:08pm

re: #40 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It was the “yellow peril” back then, first applied to the Chinese laborers, then to the Japanese. The reasons, aside from racism, were:

en.wikipedia.org

In other words, the same fears and bigotry as we see now regarding Central American immigrants. Asians are now (barely) OK.

Not sure one can think of a ethnic or racial minority whose ancestors weren’t heralded as the end of America when they began showing up on these shores. Hell, I imagine the natives saw the white Protestant colonists showing up and thought “Shit, there goes the neighborhood.”

49 Kragar  Nov 19, 2014 6:55:04pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Okay, I’m helping my son do a poster board on George Washington. Underneath his name will be “Our Nations First President”. Is it “Nation’s” or “Nations”??

I’m embarrassed I even have to ask, but oh well. :)

Nation’s, because its possessive

50 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 19, 2014 6:55:29pm

It seems like only yesterday that the unanimous voices of the Right were quick to use the words “treason” and “traitor” whenever someone spoke against anything that G.W. Bush did while presidentin’.

51 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 6:56:39pm

re: #7 Justanotherhuman

There’s really no stopping it now.

There are a couple of Latino children in my g-grandson’s preschool class.

And a teaching assistant who is also Latino. She and the mothers speak Spanish with each other which doesn’t bother me at all. I had them laughing when I told my grandson, “Besame mucho” when I was leaving one day.

I’m going to encourage my g-grandson to learn a few words/phrases and perhaps do some Spanish immersion at a later date (assuming I’m still around), and maybe other languages, too. Why do Americans resist other languages so much?

I have hope, though, and it’s with the kids. : )

Back when I was in the 6th grade, our fairly progressive school district decided to offer foreign language instruction beginning in grade 6. We had a choice of French or Spanish. I think my dad encouraged me to take Spanish because he had had a little of it when he was in high school, along with Latin. I stayed with Spanish through my third year of university. It was one of the best decisions of my young life.

52 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 6:57:00pm

re: #50 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It seems like only yesterday that the unanimous voices of the Right were quick to use the words “treason” and “traitor” whenever someone spoke against anything that G.W. Bush did while presidentin’.

Obama’s entire presidency has been a reaction to what Bush did as president.

53 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 6:57:11pm

Thank you guys! :D

54 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 6:59:02pm

re: #52 Belafon

Obama’s entire presidency has been a reaction to what Bush FDR did as president.

Fixed for accuracy. Most of the GOP is still hurting from the New Deal.

55 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 19, 2014 6:59:30pm

re: #52 Belafon

Obama’s entire presidency has been a reaction to what Bush did as president.

It almost seems as though the RW’s actions have been designed to make us nostalgic for the gentler times of the Bush years.

56 bratwurst  Nov 19, 2014 6:59:58pm
57 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 7:01:20pm

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Back when I was in the 6th grade, our fairly progressive school district decided to offer foreign language instruction beginning in grade 6. We had a choice of French or Spanish. I think my dad encouraged me to take Spanish because he had had a little of it when he was in high school, along with Latin. I stayed with Spanish through my third year of university. It was one of the best decisions of my young life.

One of my biggest regrets in life, not knowing how to speak another language.

One day I want to do it, and being an adult in his early thirties immersion is the only course. I see myself moving to Chile to be a ski guide. Moving around in those parts, I figure I’d probably learn a little Spanish to get around.

58 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 7:01:27pm

Virtually every wave of immigrants led to the usual screams about “They’ll work for less!,” “They’ll breed like rabbits!,” “They carry all sorts of diseases!,” and ultimately “They won’t assimilate!”

59 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 7:03:16pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

Virtually every wave of immigrants led to the usual screams about “They’ll work for less!,” “They’ll breed like rabbits!,” “They carry all sorts of diseases!,” and ultimately “They won’t assimilate!”

You forgot, “They’ll steal our wimmens!”

60 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 7:03:45pm

re: #55 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It almost seems as though the RW’s actions have been designed to make us nostalgic for the gentler times of the Bush years.

In the same way that someone yearns for the spouse that was just emotionally abusive, before he got physically abusive as well.

61 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 7:04:37pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

Y’know, with actual rabbits presumably breeding like rabbits, there’s still a remarkable shortage of rabbits around the neighborhood.

62 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 7:04:43pm

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

“And they’re lazy.”

63 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Nov 19, 2014 7:09:14pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

One of my biggest regrets in life, not knowing how to speak another language.

One day I want to do it, and being an adult in his early thirties immersion is the only course. I see myself moving to Chile to be a ski guide. Moving around in those parts, I figure I’d probably learn a little Spanish to get around.

WhenIf I graduate nursing school, I am interested in learning another language. I figure I’ll use Rosetta Stone or something like that. Anyway, I really haven’t decided which language to study. Lots of people already speak Spanish, so there’s no shortage of translators. I’m thinking Russian or Korean

64 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 7:10:28pm

I grew up with a fair amount of Latino people. My best friend since the 1st grade, his last name is Montano.

When I was a kid, all the Latino families that I knew had parents that worked in the service industry to cater to the ski areas and the airport. One guy I knew who lived right down the street, his dad worked for the railroad maintenance before our line was abandoned. They all worked really really hard and still do in a lot of cases.

On the question of assimilation, they all watch football and are generally good to their neighbors and own dogs and cats and are bilingual and pay taxes and maintain beautiful homes and…

The fallout from this immigration announcement tomorrow is going to give me a headache.

65 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 7:10:36pm

re: #62 Belafon

“And they’re lazy.”

Nah, that usually comes after the first wave, when the first generation of kids start entering society. Then it’s “They’re lazy,” “They’re violent/criminals,” and “They’re looking for a hand-out!”

66 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 7:12:01pm

Latinos are some of the hardest working people I know. There are probably far less of them on the welfare rolls than you might think.

67 CBGB  Nov 19, 2014 7:12:11pm

re: #27 Kragar

Rage over executive orders with precedent: watering the tree of liberty

Rage over the killing of unarmed black kids: THUGS

68 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 7:18:22pm

re: #63 SteveMcGazi

WhenIf I graduate nursing school, I am interested in learning another language. I figure I’ll use Rosetta Stone or something like that. Anyway, I really haven’t decided which language to study. Lots of people already speak Spanish, so there’s no shortage of translators. I’m thinking Russian or Korean

Some people say Rosetta Stone is overrated, but I’ve never used it. There’s a guy I follow, Benny the Irish Polyglot. who claims anyone can become fluent in three months. He calls it “language hacking.” fluentin3months.com This is not an endorsement, BTW. I think his attitude toward learning a language is too dependent on having an outgoing, gregarious personality like his.

Your choices are good ones. Add Chinese or Persian/Farsi to the list for good measure.

69 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 7:18:24pm

Dark_Falcon got bent out of shape last night when I characterized Republicans as “Rednecks.” (see here for full context) He told me to be civil, and that he’s never characterized Democrats in such an unbecoming manner. He may be right about himself, but what about this guy in Colorado, who has nearly 25,000 followers on Twitter? He thinks this sort of discourse is fair game.

70 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 7:20:29pm

The #FergusonFireside is now over, and damn it is so righteous. Blast of hope.

But during the call they are reporting something happening at the po-lice dept. Helicopter.

71 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 19, 2014 7:21:54pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Dark_Falcon got bent out of shape last night when I characterized Republicans as “Rednecks.” (see here for full context) He told me to be civil, and that he’s never characterized Democrats in such an unbecoming manner. He may be right about himself, but what about this guy in Colorado, who has nearly 25,000 followers on Twitter? He thinks this sort of discourse is fair game.

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Sounds like one of the usual suspects at NPR. I replied to one of his so-called jokes about Obama by asking him if he tests his standup routine at Stormfront. Pity the poor dear got all upset.

72 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 7:31:44pm

re: #71 William Barnett-Lewis

Sounds like one of the usual suspects at NPR. I replied to one of his so-called jokes about Obama by asking him if he tests his standup routine at Stormfront. Pity the poor dear got all upset.

Stephen Green, heh. I “hate” follow him, have for years. He’s incredibly predictable.

According to his Twitter feed he drinks all the time - even when taking his boys to school - and he eats steak all the time and he hates the weather in Colorado and whatever crazy anti-Obama thing that he sees on PJMedia of which he’s employed.

The fact that he’s employed by PJMedia should give any seasoned Lizard an idea of Stephen Green’s keen intellect and analysis of the issues.

73 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 7:31:47pm

Next up for Obama: Create droid army.

/

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 19, 2014 7:35:50pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Next up for Obama: Create droid army.

/

Nah, the clones are almost done on some south sea island. He had them started before he became Chancellor, er, President…

75 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 7:39:28pm

re: #74 William Barnett-Lewis

I expect to see Chuck C soon declaring that Obama be given emergency powers.

76 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 7:44:44pm

re: #70 #FergusonFireside

77 Romantic Heretic  Nov 19, 2014 7:45:09pm

re: #5 jaunte

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Wait for that cool, collected reaction.

Good luck with that!

78 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 7:45:57pm

I’m going to go ahead and say I think the Grand Jury decision drops tomorrow.

79 Floral Giraffe  Nov 19, 2014 7:46:14pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

Aw, shit.

80 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 7:46:15pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

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Against that weaponized blackness.

81 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 7:47:13pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably

82 Romantic Heretic  Nov 19, 2014 7:47:36pm

I liked what Andy Borowitz had to say about this.

83 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 7:47:38pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

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A preview of things to come.

84 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 7:50:11pm

Might already be here.

85 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 7:50:55pm

I wouldn’t doubt that the St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch is watching the weather closely, waiting for a snow storm or a wicked bitter cold snap, to release the grand jury’s findings.

I hate to be that cynical, but things are rotten in St. Louis County. And we can all see it now thanks to the internet.

86 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 7:53:14pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

I wouldn’t doubt that the St Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch is watching the weather closely, waiting for a snow storm of wicked bitter cold, to release the grand jury’s findings.

I hate to be that cynical, but things are rotten in St. Louis County. And we can all see it now thanks to the internet.

I’m sort of expecting to see it happen tomorrow, if for no other reason than the universe has a perverse sense of humor and this happening the same day as the President’s major announcement seems to fit. His speech sharing the same TV screen as images of protestors being tear-gassed and shot with rubber bullets in Missouri.

87 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 7:56:22pm
88 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 7:57:27pm

Add to this, I’ve seen reports/tweets about the school districts have sent home work packets in case school is cancelled…

89 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 7:58:16pm

Just for my own clarification: Bill Cosby has not actually been charged and/or convicted of anything at this time, right?

90 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 19, 2014 7:58:40pm
91 Romantic Heretic  Nov 19, 2014 7:59:35pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Just for my own clarification: Bill Cosby has not actually been charged and/or convicted of anything at this time, right?

Only in the media.

92 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 8:00:54pm
93 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 19, 2014 8:00:56pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Just for my own clarification: Bill Cosby has not actually been charged and/or convicted of anything at this time, right?

No he has not. But there are now six women claiming essentially the same scenario. In addition there are lot of people who are taking his, doubtless lawyer inspired, refusal to talk as a defacto admission of guilt.

Me? I don’t know. I do know that a court room is the best place for it and that I’d hate to have to be on that jury…

94 Belafon  Nov 19, 2014 8:01:33pm

re: #87 nearly-headless smith25

I’ve been thinking about the kind of help that people outside of Ferguson could give, and the one thing I came up with is giving cameras that stream to the web to as many residents as possible.

95 Kid A  Nov 19, 2014 8:05:36pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

Where’s that picture of the laughing dog?

96 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 19, 2014 8:06:24pm
97 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 8:07:00pm

re: #93 William Barnett-Lewis

No he has not. But there are now six women claiming essentially the same scenario. In addition there are lot of people who are taking his, doubtless lawyer inspired, refusal to talk as a defacto admission of guilt.

Me? I don’t know. I do know that a court room is the best place for it and that I’d hate to have to be on that jury…

I’m in a similar spot. The odds of 6 different women making stories up are low, but to have it all come out at once like this also seems a bit odd. Shame if its true, he’s had a great career and (up until now for the most part) a pretty good public image.

98 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 8:07:44pm

It could come as soon as Friday night, if this is correct. I assumed Baden was the last witness.

99 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 8:08:49pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Missouri. Surprise!

100 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 19, 2014 8:09:48pm
101 #FergusonFireside  Nov 19, 2014 8:10:09pm

Going to retreat into my book & remember the beautiful strength of Ferguson Fireside tonight.

Hope to those young warriors.

102 Kid A  Nov 19, 2014 8:14:07pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Dude, Dark lives in Chicago and I live in the reddest county in Texas if not the country. You’re right, Republicans are rednecks.

103 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 19, 2014 8:14:13pm
104 andres  Nov 19, 2014 8:18:55pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

re: #63 SteveMcGazi

Just a word of caution when learning Spanish: the slang is very regional. Here’s one illustration of the regionalism.

I’m not trying to put you off learning Spanish; just keep that in mind when learning.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 19, 2014 8:21:48pm

WTFITS

106 Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2014 8:22:02pm

re: #104 andres

Just a word of caution when learning Spanish: the slang is very regional. Here’s one illustration of the regionalism.

I’m not trying to put you off learning Spanish; just keep that in mind when learning.

Now I know why people from Spain claim that Mexicans don’t speak “real Spanish”

107 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 8:22:10pm

Low cost asteroids, anyone?

108 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 8:23:01pm

re: #104 andres

Just a word of caution when learning Spanish: the slang is very regional. Here’s one illustration of the regionalism.

I’m not trying to put you off learning Spanish; just keep that in mind when learning.

We learned Mexican Spanish at my jr-sr high school. I learned in college that Spanish has as much diversity as English, which should not be surprising but I was naive then.

109 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 8:26:09pm

re: #104 andres

I’m well aware of regional dialect. I always laugh when I hear how the Spanish speakers in the cities on the west coast of South America always think the Spanish speakers in places in Central America and (especially) north of Mexico D.F., how “redneck” and “simple” it comes across.

The same thing happens with English in the United States. People talk very differently between, say, Colorado and Mississippi.

110 palomino  Nov 19, 2014 8:27:37pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Not all Republicans are rednecks. But if you are a redneck, chances are you’re a Republican. All you have to do is look at polling data. People who fit into the general redneck category are overwhelmingly Republican, and disproportionately of the tea party persuasion.

Rednecks are ultra-traditionalist far right conservatives (on most issues) and they always have been. At this point in our history, the gop is where they feel comfortable.

111 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 8:28:48pm
112 jaunte  Nov 19, 2014 8:29:23pm
113 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 19, 2014 8:31:14pm

re: #112 jaunte

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Truth is a very dangerous threat to them, though.

114 Pip's Squeak  Nov 19, 2014 8:34:06pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Some people say Rosetta Stone is overrated, but I’ve never used it. There’s a guy I follow, Benny the Irish Polyglot. who claims anyone can become fluent in three months. He calls it “language hacking.” fluentin3months.com This is not an endorsement, BTW. I think his attitude toward learning a language is too dependent on having an outgoing, gregarious personality like his.

Your choices are good ones. Add Chinese or Persian/Farsi to the list for good measure.

If you’re interested in a relatively ‘exotic’ foreign language, try Indonesian. The grammar you can pick up in an hour. Of course, as with all languages, real fluency will take years.

115 sagehen  Nov 19, 2014 8:37:57pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

original intent, i suppose, means nothing in regard to immigration, since it was virtually unrestricted from 1789 until sometime around 1920 iirc

The first legislation restricting immigration was the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act — exactly what it says on the tin. A few decades later they decided Chinese weren’t the only people who needed to be shut out, so the 1924 bill set quotas to limit Jews and Italians.

116 palomino  Nov 19, 2014 8:39:42pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

Not that surprising. Sullivan is a small community in Missouri. Missouri may not be Mississippi, but it’s not Vermont or Oregon either. And it was once a slave state.

Sullivan itself: 7,000 people. 96% are white, and 0.2% are black.

117 Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 19, 2014 8:40:53pm

I recently met a woman from Mexico - I won’t say where, but I see her almost every day - who was in an honest-to-god sham marriage to keep her visa until last year. I’d heard of such things but never talked to anybody who had actually done it.

She paid a guy (a friend of her brother’s) $4,000 to be her husband (because “Latinos never do anything for free” - her words, not mine! LOL), went to a lawyer together - and NOT a scam lawyer - prepped the paperwork and got married, changed her name, the whole nine yards… Stayed married for a few years and then got divorced after whatever status she wanted was squared away. I’m not even sure what she did because I tried reading the government info on marriage visas and it made my head spin. Her and her “husband” were friends but didn’t even live together.

She did what she had to do. She’s educated, speaks English just fine, nice girl, her parents actually used to live here in Texas until a few years ago, and they want to come back to move permanently, they’re just saving up (her father runs his own business in Mexico). Her next goal is citizenship.

I told her if she came over the border in a van to pick fruit or scrub toilets nobody would worry about where she came from, because the real value of an immigrant is in service to capital. She didn’t understand why it was such a tremendous pain in the ass just to get here. She’s indistinguishable from every other darker-than-white resident of Texas you’ll ever meet, except for her accent, and she works in financial customer service…

My own mother has been a resident alien for decades and whenever she needs to do anything with the INS, it is, indeed, a tremendous pain in the ass.

It’s the system that’s fucked, not the people. If Obama has to Executive Order our way to something better, more sensible, and more humane, so be it.

118 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 19, 2014 8:46:04pm

re: #49 Kragar

Nation’s, because its possessive

It’s, because it’s not possessive.

Sorry.

119 palomino  Nov 19, 2014 8:47:19pm

re: #102 Kid A

Dude, Dark lives in Chicago and I live in the reddest county in Texas if not the country. You’re right, Republicans are rednecks.

I was born and raised in Houston. DF doesn’t know shit about TX or the south in general. Conservative white rednecks are everywhere down there.

The kind of idiots who if they can’t afford healthcare, only want it if the program has a white guy’s name on it. Romneycare? Fine. Obamacare? I’d rather die.

120 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 8:48:12pm

re: #118 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

It’s, because it’s not possessive.

Sorry.

There’s at least one in every class. Here’s a note. Go to the vice principal’s office now.

121 sagehen  Nov 19, 2014 8:48:36pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Your choices are good ones. Add Chinese or Persian/Farsi to the list for good measure.

I’m going to suggest, for an adult learning a second language… pick one that uses the same alphabet as your first language.

122 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 19, 2014 8:53:31pm

re: #120 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

There’s at least one in every class. Here’s a note. Go to the vice principal’s office now.

Aw, man … .

123 sagehen  Nov 19, 2014 8:55:16pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Just for my own clarification: Bill Cosby has not actually been charged and/or convicted of anything at this time, right?

Way past the statute of limitations.

124 Pip's Squeak  Nov 19, 2014 8:55:21pm

re: #121 sagehen

I’m going to suggest, for an adult learning a second language… pick one that uses the same alphabet as your first language.

Only if the second script consist of Chinese characters, thousands of them. Arabic, Cyrillic, and Devanagari (North Indian), for example, just take practise and getting used to.

125 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 19, 2014 8:56:40pm

re: #124 Pip’s Squeak

Only if the second script consist of Chinese characters, thousands of them. Arabic, Cyrillic, and Devanagari (North Indian), for example, just take practise and getting used to.

I’ve gotten pretty good at reading the Greek alphabet.

126 Lidane  Nov 19, 2014 9:01:16pm
127 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Nov 19, 2014 9:02:45pm

re: #120 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

There’s at least one in every class. Here’s a note. Go to the vice principal’s office now.

Two weeks ago one of my instructors in the nursing sym lab leaned over the mannequin, and said that she was trying to turn him on. It came out before I could stop it :”That should do it”

50 going on 13

128 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 9:03:17pm
129 BeachDem  Nov 19, 2014 9:06:02pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

They look nice.

130 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 9:07:25pm
131 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Nov 19, 2014 9:07:46pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

“That’s not fair! How come they get face shields and I have to stand here with my dick in my hand?”

132 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 9:08:58pm

re: #126 Lidane

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133 BeachDem  Nov 19, 2014 9:09:37pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

I’m sort of expecting to see it happen tomorrow, if for no other reason than the universe has a perverse sense of humor and this happening the same day as the President’s major announcement seems to fit. His speech sharing the same TV screen as images of protestors being tear-gassed and shot with rubber bullets in Missouri.

Well, the majority of the American viewing public won’t see either—as none of the networks are carrying his speech and would never interrupt important things like The Biggest Loser or Grey’s Anatomy or The Big Bang Theory to show something like US citizens being attacked by stormtrooper police forces.

134 De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2014 9:09:40pm


Obama did what? ‘Splain Lucy!

135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Nov 19, 2014 9:10:07pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

Maybe that’s why Sarah Palin flew back to Alaska.

(ducks)

136 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 9:11:19pm

re: #130 Jenner7

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And I imagine the purpose of these arrests is not only to incite anger amongst protestors, but also to give the false impression to state and local politicians that the lawlessness has already begun.

137 jayjaybear  Nov 19, 2014 9:14:04pm

re: #24 Justanotherhuman

Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle” stays with me. Jack London called it “The Uncle Tom’s Cabin” of wage slavery.

Of course, 80% of Americans will tell you that The Jungle is about exposing the adulteration of food before the FDA and have no idea it’s about the exploitation of workers.

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138 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 9:20:36pm

Dave Weigel can be such a fuck sometimes.

139 Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2014 9:22:43pm

re: #137 jayjaybear

Of course, 80% of Americans will tell you that The Jungle is about exposing the adulteration of food before the FDA and have no idea it’s about the exploitation of workers.

Because that’s COMMUNIST! //

That’s because, as such things go, the public only cared about the danger to themselves portrayed in the allegations made by Sinclair about conditions in meat packing plants. Even Teddy Roosevelt, the man today seen as one of the first truly modern presidents in his relationship with big business, thought Sinclair was a crank and reading The Jungle only swayed him enough to order investigations for meat packing plants. Sinclair was (naturally) livid that the results of his book were a system where the government paid for inspections of meat plants, instead of requiring the owners to pick up the bill.

140 Mattand  Nov 19, 2014 9:25:09pm

Creative protip: when someone says “We can’t pay that much, but we’re just looking for something simple”, it is permissible by law to shove their heads into a bucket of leeches with rusty razor blades for teeth.

141 BeachDem  Nov 19, 2014 9:28:13pm

re: #123 sagehen

Way past the statute of limitations.

And gee, when all those women came forward about Herman Cain, he continued to run for president pretend to run for president to grift from the rubes. And the wingers cried out about those “whores” who were trying to ruin his life.

For Bill Cosby? NBC already cancelled his pilot and Netflix dumped him from a show they were going to do.

(Wonder how KT feels about this outrageous outrage?)/

142 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 19, 2014 9:38:14pm

re: #141 BeachDem

And gee, when all those women came forward about Herman Cain, he continued to run for president pretend to run for president to grift from the rubes. And the wingers cried out about those “whores” who were trying to ruin his life.

For Bill Cosby? NBC already cancelled his pilot and Netflix dumped him from a show they were going to do.

(Wonder how KT feels about this outrageous outrage?)/

Cosby’s the surrogate for Obama.

143 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 10:01:04pm
144 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 19, 2014 10:04:03pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

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I’ve looked at too much St Ansel I guess, but that chunk of rock only looks right in black and white…

145 Jenner7  Nov 19, 2014 10:05:41pm
146 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 19, 2014 10:31:03pm

re: #145 Jenner7

How awful Those poor kids.

147 teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2014 11:01:41pm
148 BeachDem  Nov 19, 2014 11:26:22pm
149 Ace-o-aces  Nov 19, 2014 11:39:54pm
150 freetoken  Nov 20, 2014 12:16:56am

MP3 Audio

151 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 1:45:27am
152 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 1:46:38am

re: #148 BeachDem

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So different from Trayvon’s town.

153 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 1:47:49am

re: #141 BeachDem

And gee, when all those women came forward about Herman Cain, he continued to run for president pretend to run for president to grift from the rubes. And the wingers cried out about those “whores” who were trying to ruin his life.

For Bill Cosby? NBC already cancelled his pilot and Netflix dumped him from a show they were going to do.

(Wonder how KT feels about this outrageous outrage?)/

Many have mistrusted him since he ranted against Hip Hop.

154 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 1:49:12am
155 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 1:53:03am
156 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 2:00:11am

Stockholm syndrome?

For the demonstrators, those options are distractions. They say reproductive choice is bad for women, leading to a social devaluation of motherhood — being a mother is now just one choice among many, not a sacred and definitional calling.

also Paged

157 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 2:14:57am
158 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 2:27:40am

India’s ‘yoga ministry’ stirs doubts among scientists

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has thrown his weight behind the country’s traditional systems of medicine earlier this month by creating the Ministry for Ayurveda, Yoga and Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha and Homeopathy (AYUSH). Among its stated goals is to promote “educational standards, quality control and standardization of drugs”.

ya think?

159 FemNaziBitch  Nov 20, 2014 2:30:44am

back to bed!

160 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 2:36:01am

re: #158 FemNaziBitch

India’s ‘yoga ministry’ stirs doubts among scientists

ya think?

Interesting that Modi has gone the “traditional medicine” route. Mao Zedong did the same thing in the early days of revolutionary China, partly to encourage nationalism and partly (or maybe mostly) to conceal the inadequacies of the Chinese medical system. Now there are two medical systems in China: traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) and Western medicine. TCM includes the concept of qi, herbs, moxibustion, massage, acupuncture, taiji, and such like, all of which have limited success in dealing with major systemic illnesses, like heart disease or cancer. But many people in China and abroad swear by TCM.

So, the cynic in me says Modi is trying the same hoodwink game, to cover up the fact that most Indians lack access to decent medical care.

161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 2:43:54am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It’s great to have these things to aid in preventing illness, but when you are trying to control an epidemic, need a bypass or a kidney transplant, no amount of qi is going to help you.

162 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 3:02:46am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s great to have these things to aid in preventing illness, but when you are trying to control an epidemic, need a bypass or a kidney transplant, no amount of qi is going to help you.

A lot like faith healing.

163 Timothy Watson  Nov 20, 2014 4:04:38am

re: #147 teleskiguy

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Was that photograph colorized?

164 Randall Gross  Nov 20, 2014 4:06:19am
165 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 4:08:43am

Morning Lizards.

166 Lidane  Nov 20, 2014 4:28:51am

re: #140 Mattand

Creative protip: when someone says “We can’t pay that much, but we’re just looking for something simple”, it is permissible by law to shove their heads into a bucket of leeches with rusty razor blades for teeth.

Also, plz to remind those same people that opening a business is like planning a wedding. Some things take time to do.

If I had $100 for every frantic wannabe Mark Cuban calling me trying to get their telecom services the same week they’re planning on opening their office doors, I’d be retired and living on a tropical island. Pfft.

167 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 4:28:53am

re: #158 FemNaziBitch

India’s ‘yoga ministry’ stirs doubts among scientists

ya think?

As always, nationalists fall for quackery.

168 Eventual Carrion  Nov 20, 2014 4:36:24am

re: #140 Mattand

Creative protip: when someone says “We can’t pay that much, but we’re just looking for something simple”, it is permissible by law to shove their heads into a bucket of leeches with rusty razor blades for teeth.

Hand them a pencil and paper notebook, charge them $10 and leave.

169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 4:41:19am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

As always, nationalists fall for quackery.

Let’s abolish ACA and replace it with the National Ministry of Faith Healing!!!

Let’s abolish the National Weather Service and pray for rain!!!

Let’s abolish the military and pray for peace!!!

Now, wait a second…

170 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 4:42:11am

I’m seeing a bunch of Derp on Jewish sites about the CNN headline fail from Tuesday’s synagogue attack.

No, I keep saying, CNN is not DELIBERATELY manipulating the headlines to create sympathy for the terrorists. Somebody just fucked up, like they did with the Boston Marathon bombers news feed.

171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 4:46:41am

re: #170 Vicious Piebola

I’m seeing a bunch of Derp on Jewish sites about the CNN headline fail from Tuesday’s synagogue attack.

No, I keep saying, CNN is not DELIBERATELY manipulating the headlines to create sympathy for the terrorists. Somebody just fucked up, like they did with the Boston Marathon bombers news feed.

Probably delegated the task to an unpaid intern or some third-tier, minimum wage staff member…

172 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 4:50:53am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Probably delegated the task to an unpaid intern or some third-tier, minimum wage staff member…

Or automated headline generator

173 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 4:54:06am

Wingnut asks “Does it make me unpatriotic to admire the words of this man?”
Answer: Yes. Also racist and a bigot.

174 JustMark  Nov 20, 2014 4:55:59am

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

175 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 4:56:34am

re: #174 JustMark

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

BBC.

176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 4:57:04am

re: #173 Vicious Piebola

Our First Amendment defines the Separation of Church and State. Talk of creeping Sharia is just dogwhistle xenophobia and racism.

177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 4:57:35am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

BBC.

stodgy but reliable and of consistent high quality

178 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 4:59:16am

re: #174 JustMark

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

NYTimes, Reuters, ABC, MSNBC,

I created a Twitter list for “Breaking News” and added the Twitter feeds of the major news sources, of course we know that CNN has fucked up in that area.

179 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 5:04:07am

re: #174 JustMark

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

I don’t really have a go to source for my news. I mainly use the the network news sites as a starting point for the big stories and then try to find a local news station for further detail. I probably have at least one link to a news site in each State.

180 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 5:16:35am

Speaking of the Beeb, they just reported that Julian Assange is still facing arrest on those sex charges in Sweden, so I suppose he’s stuck in the Ecuadorian embassy in London for a while longer. I suspect the Ecuadoreños are pretty tired of their house guest by now.

181 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 5:20:07am

Senate is investigating the Goldman Sachs aluminum commodity rent-seeking scan

182 Randall Gross  Nov 20, 2014 5:22:33am

Why musicians might think twice about flying US AIR:

theindychannel.com

183 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 5:27:47am

re: #174 JustMark

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

NPR, BBC, Deutsche Welt are my primary media these days.

184 Romantic Heretic  Nov 20, 2014 5:33:26am

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

WTFITS

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A sick puppy looking for an excuse to kill someone.

He could just as easily been a KKK member urging people to ‘Keep Calm and Kill the Niclangs!’

185 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 5:34:34am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

stodgy but reliable and of consistent high quality

Stodgy, yes, but I prefer that the pseudo-glitz of CNN. The theme playing in the background of the Amanpour promos drives me batty.

186 CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2014 5:34:47am

Just stopping by to drop off this Colbert segment—too funny:

Video

187 Timothy Watson  Nov 20, 2014 5:52:37am

re: #182 Randall Gross

Why musicians might think twice about flying US AIR:

theindychannel.com

Oh, he’s a bass player, who cares?

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188 Flounder  Nov 20, 2014 5:55:17am

Man busted for ordering Taco Bell on his bicycle, he wasn’t a satisfied customer.

189 Eventual Carrion  Nov 20, 2014 5:59:15am

re: #188 Flounder

Man busted for ordering Taco Bell on his bicycle, he wasn’t a satisfied customer.

Shoot unarmed black kid coming home from store = just fine, you can go home tonight.

Attempting to order fast food with swiss army knife on belt loop = you are going to spend at least tonight in jail.

He should have had an assault rifle strapped to his back, they would have left him alone.

190 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 6:02:53am

re: #188 Flounder

Man busted for ordering Taco Bell on his bicycle, he wasn’t a satisfied customer.

Makes no damn sense, really.

But then again, it’s Florida.

191 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 6:15:22am

re: #174 JustMark

OK Lizards, random question - what’s your online news source of choice. Besides LGF. The WAPO has gone paywall, HuffPO is just click-bait these days, CNN is a mess…

Any recommendations?

These days I find it comforting to know less about what’s going on.

192 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 6:17:57am

re: #188 Flounder

re: #189 Eventual Carrion

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

He was intoxicated and made the dumb ass mistake of grabbing a cops hand when he went to remove the knife

As police were asking Harris to leave, they spotted a red Swiss Army knife on Harris’ belt loop and tried to reach for it. Harris grabbed the officer’s wrist and Harris was wrestled to the ground and handcuffed. Harris suffered a scraped forehead, police said.

193 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 6:20:50am

re: #192 Bubblehead II

He was intoxicated and made the dumb ass mistake of grabbing a cops hand when he went to remove the knife

As police were asking Harris to leave, they spotted a red Swiss Army knife on Harris’ belt loop and tried to reach for it. Harris grabbed the officer’s wrist and Harris was wrestled to the ground and handcuffed. Harris suffered a scraped forehead, police said.

Ah, that puts a different spin on things. Yet another Florida Man doing dumbshit stuff.

194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 6:24:21am

Japanese woman claims she is innocent of killing her most recent husband with cyanide.
bbc.com

Sounds like a Law & Order episode.

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 6:25:50am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Japanese woman claims she is innocent of killing her most recent husband with cyanide.
bbc.com

Sounds like a Law & Order episode.

How did your first husband die?

-He ate poison mushrooms.

And your second husband?

-He also ate poison mushrooms

And your third husband?

-He died of a brain concussion.

How did that happen?

-He didn’t want to eat his mushrooms!

196 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 6:27:41am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Ah, that puts a different spin on things. Yet another Florida Man doing dumbshit stuff.

Yep. The NYP seems to have left that little tidbit out of their story. This is why I try to find a local source for a story. You often find that there is more to it than what a out of area news site dispenses.

197 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Nov 20, 2014 6:28:39am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How did your first husband die?

-He ate poison mushrooms.

And your second husband?

-He also ate poison mushrooms

And your third husband?

-He died of a brain concussion.

How did that happen?

-He didn’t want to eat his mushrooms!

I gotta say, circumstantial evidence points to this lady as the killer. Cyanide in the deceased’s bloodstream is a smoking gun.

198 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 6:31:49am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Buffalo wasn’t quite able to catch its breath overnight as heavy lake effect snows once again blasted the region (and the Tug Hill Plateau area of NY as well).

Another 2-3 feet expected in areas already hard hit.

And there was again thundersnow last night. A friend who lives outside Buffalo reported being awakened by multiple instances. She had just managed to dig a path to the street, and more snow is on the way before the weekend - when temperatures are expected to jump to the upper 50s and low 60s. There’s also a chance of rain, which is a disastrous combination.

We’re going to start hearing about building collapses and widespread flooding as the snow melts and compacts on roofs.

199 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 6:34:38am

re: #197 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I gotta say, circumstantial evidence points to this lady as the killer. Cyanide in the deceased’s bloodstream is a smoking gun.

And not just his.

Besides Isao’s death, police are also investigating the 2012 death of Ms Kakehi’s 71-year-old then partner, who collapsed while riding a motorbike.

Investigators found cyanide in his blood sample, said Kyodo. His death was initially attributed to heart disease.

And I wonder if they are going to find it in this guy as well.

Following Isao’s death, Ms Kakehi began a relationship with another 75-year-old man. He died in September after falling ill, following a meal with Ms Kakehi at a restaurant, according to Jiji Press.

200 Timothy Watson  Nov 20, 2014 6:35:33am

Finally updated to iTunes 12.

I hate the logo change (from blue to red).

That is all.

201 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 6:40:55am
202 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 6:42:49am
203 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 20, 2014 6:43:57am

I may take a total news break for a few days. I was around and aware when Reagan tackled this. That was bad enough. Now in this atmosphere? Fox etc? Ugh. All I wanna see is the speech itself and a solid dry explanation of how the proposal is supposed to work in detail. That’s it. No pundits. Not interested in anyones histrionics.

204 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 6:45:17am

re: #197 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I gotta say, circumstantial evidence points to this lady as the killer. Cyanide in the deceased’s bloodstream is a smoking gun.

Maybe he didn’t shuck his almond snack?

205 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 6:49:59am
206 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 6:55:38am

re: #198 lawhawk

I’ll send you some warm and sunny vibes from Southern California when I take my afternoon walk.

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 6:57:11am

re: #205 NJDhockeyfan

Court rejects Julian Assange’s bid to revoke arrest warrant over sexual assault allegations

What say we fix him up with that Japanese lady?

208 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 7:00:21am

re: #202 Vicious Piebola

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The container contained some 18,000 firecrackers, 5,200 knives, 4,300 Taser-flashlight devices, 5,000 electric shock devices and 1,000 swords, according to a police statement.

Police said it was the largest seizure of weapons of the type in recent history.

What a huge catch. I hope they didn’t miss any similar shipments.

209 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:06:38am

Zedushka taught Kupinsky 30 years ago in his 5th grade class.

210 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 7:06:57am

Hey all.

Did anyone notice how matter of fact and just another shooting the reporting of the FSU incident has been? I guess random mass shooting has now passed into the daily lifestyle of America. So sad.

And regarding Ferguson and that image of the cops out last night, how tone deaf can so many law enforcement and politicians be? They do not seem to understand their whole response to what caused the issues and why people are protesting are being reflected in their actions. Heavy handed police and political response to being black in Ferguson (and really, in America) got Michael Brown killed, and now they are doubling down and probably going to end up killing more African Americans for being black and protesting in Ferguson.

And if anyone feels like it, a kind thought for an older brother (69) of mine. He has been struggling with some real bad health issues and was diagnosed with Parkinson’s a little over a year ago and he seems to have gotten to a stage that he has no muscular control in his body. He literally can not stand or use his arms to help out. My sister-in-law found him on the floor a day or so ago and couldn’t help him. She called 911 and they took him to the hospital where he is currently. They don’t know if it is a drug reaction or what at this stage. I just found out last night. He is in Arizona, and me being stuck in bad economic times in Ohio just fucking sucks right now. Thanks.

Later.

211 Bubblehead II  Nov 20, 2014 7:09:33am

bbiaw. Meat world stuff to take care of. OA sending good thoughts your way.

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 7:10:20am

re: #210 ObserverArt

{{{{OA}}}}

213 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 7:12:07am

re: #210 ObserverArt

{{{{ObserverArt}}}}

214 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Nov 20, 2014 7:13:45am

re: #200 Timothy Watson

Finally updated to iTunes 12.

I hate the logo change (from blue to red).

That is all.

I won’t upgrade anything until I absolutely have to. Major applications seem to make unexpected changes to the way my system works. Besides, an older version of iTunes used to convert my songs to mp3s that I could listen to in the car. I upgraded last year and lost that ability. I guess I could find some software someware (couldn’t resist) to do it, but I don’t like that.

215 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:15:54am

Phyllis Shlafley: “Obama could launch another Civil War”
(Warning: DoNotLink goes to batshit WND page)

She totally remembers the first one.

216 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 7:28:30am

re: #173 Vicious Piebola

Wingnut asks “Does it make me unpatriotic to admire the words of this man?”
Answer: Yes. Also racist and a bigot.

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Amen.

217 Jenner7  Nov 20, 2014 7:31:56am
218 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:33:05am
219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 7:36:36am

re: #215 Vicious Piebola

Phyllis Shlafley: “Obama could launch another Civil War”
(Warning: DoNotLink goes to batshit WND page)

She totally remembers the first one.

Remember, it was the Union that ‘launched” the last one.

220 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 20, 2014 7:38:30am

re: #218 Vicious Piebola

St. Louis-based tacticalgear.com is crediting the “Ferguson phenomenon” for a double-digit bump in sales.
Sales from last week are 21 percent higher than sales for the same week last year, a jump CEO Chad Weinman calls “significant growth.” Weinman says the uptick is especially noticeable at tacticalgear.com’s Chesterfield store, where many of his customers are Department of Homeland Security and Missouri State Highway Patrol officers arriving in St. Louis to handle security at expected future protests.

Did the taxpayers and DOD not already equip them well enough?
WTF.

221 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 7:38:38am

re: #217 Jenner7

re: #218 Vicious Piebola

It’s inspiring to me to see so many well-trained, responsible individuals being equipped with deadly weapons. It’s certain that none of these weapons will kill their owners, their owner’s families, or perfect strangers in the years to come.

222 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:39:13am

re: #221 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It’s inspiring to me to see so many well-trained, responsible individuals being equipped with deadly weapons. It’s certain that none of these weapons will kill their owners, their owner’s families, or perfect strangers in the years to come.

THEY WILL STOP TEH HOLOCAUST OF OBAMA!!!!!!1!!!

223 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:40:37am

LOLWUT

224 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 7:41:10am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Remember, it was the Union that ‘launched” the last one.

Them boys was just drunk and fooling around when they bombarded Fort Sumter or, “look what you made us do!”

225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 7:41:32am

re: #221 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It’s inspiring to me to see so many well-trained, responsible individuals being equipped with deadly weapons. It’s certain that none of these weapons will kill their owners, their owner’s families, or perfect strangers in the years to come.

It shows that the NRA has been successful in getting its message across. And that message is not primarily about gun safety, but rather “safety through firepower”.

226 gwangung  Nov 20, 2014 7:41:35am

re: #223 Vicious Piebola

LOLWUT

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Well, she could try relaxing…..

227 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 7:41:46am

Amazing - run stories and sow seeds of discord about what the President might say, but then not air his actual statement live to the nation.

That’s the US media in-action.

228 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:41:53am

re: #224 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Them boys was just drunk and fooling around when they bombarded Fort Sumter.

Lincoln’s tyranny! because you know Jefferson Davis was always super tolerant of dissident.

229 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 7:42:31am
230 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:43:07am

re: #227 lawhawk

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Amazing - run stories and sow seeds of discord about what the President might say, but then not air his actual statement live to the nation.

That’s the US media in-action.

Incompetent fuckers. Yeah, let’s have people tell us that Obama is fermenting violence (Hi, Senator Coburn) but not bother actually showing his speech and what he’s talking about. Fuck the media and fuck the right wing fear mongrels even more.

231 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 7:43:55am

MOAR WTF

232 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:44:53am

re: #231 Vicious Piebola

MOAR WTF

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Because he’s not a Muslim. Maybe. if being a patriot is a good thing, why are you covering it up and pretending to be one? See I can use stupid right wing fucktard logic too.

233 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 7:44:58am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

Incompetent fuckers. Yeah, let’s have people tell us that Obama is fermenting violence (Hi, Senator Coburn) but not bother actually showing his speech and what he’s talking about. Fuck the media and fuck the right wing fear mongrels even more.

Ah, but they’ll they’ll show us at length what every wingnut Republican pol thinks that Obama meant in that speech.

234 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:45:22am

re: #233 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ah, but they’ll they’ll show us at length what every wingnut Republican pol thinks that Obama meant in that speech.

Yep. That’s the media for you.

235 Franklin  Nov 20, 2014 7:46:31am

“Obama is expected to give amnesty to billions of illegal aliens in a speech from the Whitehouse starting in just under a minute. Stay tuned for Big Bang Theory after these commercials.”

236 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 7:48:26am

Developing in NJ:

2 dead, 2 injured, but no further details available.

And that’s after a shooting at FSU overnight, leaving several people injured and the gunman dead after being shot by campus police. The shooting took place at the university library.

One wounded student was seen crying out — “I’ve been shot” — and clutching his leg as blood spread over his pants.

The gunman was killed by Tallahassee police after he opened fire on officers fr0m an access ramp outside the Strozier Library, filled with at least 300 students studying for end-of-semester exams.

“He was challenged by the officers and given commands to drop his weapon, but the male fired at the officers,” said a police statement. “The officers returned fire, killing the gunman.”

One of those wounded was grazed by a bullet and treated at the scene. The others were taken to Tallahassee Memorial HeathCare hospital. One was listed in critical condition and the other was stable, the Associated Press reported.

By 4:15 a.m., the all clear message was issued for the school, where classes were canceled Thursday and police continued with interviews and investigations. The gunman was slumped face down, the AP reported. A gray baseball cap lay near his head.

Tallahassee’s police chief, Michael DeLeo, described it as an “isolated incident and one person acting alone.” But he offered no additional details of the gunman or possible motives during a predawn news conference.

“This person for whatever reason produced a handgun and then began shooting students in the library,” Florida State University Police Chief David Perry told reporters at a morning news conference.

237 Jenner7  Nov 20, 2014 7:49:30am

re: #236 lawhawk

::sigh::

238 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:51:52am

The only thing that bothers me is that Obama didn’t take action on this sooner. But OTOH, this is going to make life easier for so many people. It shouldn’t be the finish point but it’s a nice start. There is no reason why someone who has been working hard to be punished because their parents emigrated illegally and furthermore we should be making immigration easier to do so. Hell I welcome the diversity the immigrants bring and I’ve benefited from it first hand by having a beautiful part Hispanic niece.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 7:52:00am

Heh. New pals?

240 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 7:54:00am

re: #231 Vicious Piebola

MOAR WTF

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That twit’s the one who’s pretending…

241 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 7:55:13am

Meanwhile, despite the right wing anti-science loons pointing at the current temps across parts of the US, the actual global temperatures continue rising.

Jan-Oct 2014 global avg temp highest on record for period.

Again. Global warming is happening. It’s not going away. It’s not getting weaker. The temperatures continue rising. It’s wishful thinking (actively burying head in sand) to think that it’s not occurring, or that heavy snow in Buffalo is proof that global warming is nonsense.

Global warming will actually create conditions ripe for further massive snowfalls like that seen downwind from all the Great Lakes. Warmer temperatures will keep the lakes warmer and reduce their freeze-overs, which means that when Arctic cold air rushes in as the jet stream oscillates, you’ll see more events like those pummeling Buffalo this week. These events rely on tremendous temperature differentials between air and water temperatures. Global warming will only accelerate those differences.

242 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 7:57:26am

re: #241 lawhawk

Meanwhile, despite the right wing anti-science loons pointing at the current temps across parts of the US, the actual global temperatures continue rising.

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Jan-Oct 2014 global avg temp highest on record for period.

Again. Global warming is happening. It’s not going away. It’s not getting weaker. The temperatures continue rising. It’s wishful thinking (actively burying head in sand) to think that it’s not occurring, or that heavy snow in Buffalo is proof that global warming is nonsense.

Global warming will actually create conditions ripe for further massive snowfalls like that seen downwind from all the Great Lakes. Warmer temperatures will keep the lakes warmer and reduce their freeze-overs, which means that when Arctic cold air rushes in as the jet stream oscillates, you’ll see more events like those pummeling Buffalo this week. These events rely on tremendous temperature differentials between air and water temperatures. Global warming will only accelerate those differences.

But it’s cold in my town. Why should i care if it’s hot the rest of the world? But yeah they’re fond of saying they’re not scientists. Well they show a basic lack of understanding of even elementary scientific principles when they use weather and climate interchangeably.

243 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 7:57:46am

Anyone got a conservative source refuting the jonah goldberg lie that the Nazi’s were leftists? Got a live one at NPR.

244 andres  Nov 20, 2014 7:59:02am

re: #214 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I won’t upgrade anything until I absolutely have to. Major applications seem to make unexpected changes to the way my system works. Besides, an older version of iTunes used to convert my songs to mp3s that I could listen to in the car. I upgraded last year and lost that ability. I guess I could find some software someware (couldn’t resist) to do it, but I don’t like that.

Try changing the import settings (General -> When a CD is inserted -> Import Settings…). I vaguely remember having to change that.

245 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:00:39am

Well I had a phone interview with a resort. Fingers crossed. Never done work like this before but there’s a first for everything.

246 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:00:56am

re: #243 William Barnett-Lewis

Anyone got a conservative source refuting the jonah goldberg lie that the Nazi’s were leftists? Got a live one at NPR.

You mean a source that the wingnut troll “accepts” because HURR HURR ALL TEH LIBRUL NEWS & HISTORY BOOKS IS LIES!!!1!!!!!!!

LOL

247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 8:01:03am

re: #243 William Barnett-Lewis

Anyone got a conservative source refuting the jonah goldberg lie that the Nazi’s were leftists? Got a live one at NPR.

We are dealing with people for whom “left” and “right” are some sort of absolute values, and not an arbitrary designation based on the seating arrangements of the French parliament in the 19th century.

248 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:01:50am
249 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:02:12am

re: #246 Vicious Piebola

You mean a source that the wingnut troll “accepts” because HURR HURR ALL TEH LIBRUL NEWS & HISTORY BOOKS IS LIES!!!1!!!!!!!

LOL

Yeah, I’d prefer one to rub his nose in but I doubt it’ll work. More for my sense of honor than anything.

250 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:02:57am

re: #249 William Barnett-Lewis

Yeah, I’d prefer one to rub his nose in but I doubt it’ll work. More for my sense of honor than anything.

If he’s on the NPR forums it’s only for trolling.

251 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:03:59am

re: #248 lawhawk

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252 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:04:30am

re: #250 Vicious Piebola

If he’s on the NPR forums it’s only for trolling.

True. Still I’ve been stringing him along for several days on the same thread now… It’s fun to troll the trolls ;)

253 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:06:43am

It amuses me re: #252 William Barnett-Lewis

True. Still I’ve been stringing him along for several days on the same thread now… It’s fun to troll the trolls ;)

Lemme guess. He’s used. They called themselves “national socialists” as an argument for them being leftists even though their first political persecutions were social democrats and communists and that they equated Jews with said two movements.

254 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 8:07:56am
255 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:08:04am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

It amuses me

Lemme guess. He’s used. They called themselves “national socialists” as an argument for them being leftists even though their first political persecutions were social democrats and communists and that they equated Jews with said two movements.

B-I-N-G-O-go!

256 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:08:24am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

It amuses me

Lemme guess. He’s used. They called themselves “national socialists” as an argument for them being leftists even though their first political persecutions were social democrats and communists and that they equated Jews with said two movements.

Nomenclature means more than actual ideology for these idiots. See also: KKK, “Democrats”

257 Varek Raith  Nov 20, 2014 8:10:13am

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea!

258 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 8:10:31am

re: #256 Vicious Piebola

Nomenclature means more than actual ideology for these idiots. See also: KKK, “Democrats”

People who do not understand the nature of things tend to cling to arbitrary symbols and designations.

259 gwangung  Nov 20, 2014 8:11:07am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

It amuses me

Lemme guess. He’s used. They called themselves “national socialists” as an argument for them being leftists even though their first political persecutions were social democrats and communists and that they equated Jews with said two movements.

So, basically, he’s pulling the Communist trick of trying to use the label to fool people. What does North Korea call itself? What does China call itself?

260 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:11:33am

re: #256 Vicious Piebola

Nomenclature means more than actual ideology for these idiots. See also: KKK, “Democrats”

That’s a good one but I would use something like the GDR- German Democratic Republic or the DPRNK- Democratic Peope’s Republic of Korea. Names are just names.

261 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:12:27am

re: #259 gwangung

So, basically, he’s pulling the Communist trick of trying to use the label to fool people. What does North Korea call itself? What does China call itself?

I don’t know if he’s doing that. That was just my speculation since that’s literally every starting point I see to the Nazis being leftists. But yeah it’s stupid.

262 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:13:53am

re: #259 gwangung

So, basically, he’s pulling the Communist trick of trying to use the label to fool people. What does North Korea call itself? What does China call itself?

Heh. Next round I’ll tell him that the Chinese are ruled by the Republican party since they’re the People’s Republic and by his logic that should suffice…

263 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:14:34am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

That’s a good one but I would use something like the GDR- German Democratic Republic or the DPRNK- Democratic Peope’s Republic of Korea. Names are just names.

HURR HURR THEY WERE TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!!! PROOF!!!! CONFIRMED!!11!! FACT!!!!!11!!!

264 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:15:15am

re: #243 William Barnett-Lewis

Anyone got a conservative source refuting the jonah goldberg lie that the Nazi’s were leftists? Got a live one at NPR.

Well, there’s history. Of course that means one would have to read history books, something that no Fox News follower would ever consider doing because they were all written by Communists.

265 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:15:15am
266 gwangung  Nov 20, 2014 8:20:08am

re: #262 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. Next round I’ll tell him that the Chinese are ruled by the Republican party since they’re the People’s Republic and by his logic that should suffice…

These people ACT like communists, so they accuse others of it to cover their own repressive tactics (trying to push ideology as science, banning research, etc.).

267 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:20:45am

I mean I’ll concede the Nazis used leftist/populist rhetoric but then I would add that the Nazis purged much of the party’s “left wing” in the Night of Long Knives and you can’t really call Nazi “leftists” like Rohm, the Stresser brothers, and others lefties anyhow since they didn’t want social equality for all people of Germany, they wanted it for all “Aryans.” The other funny thing is Anti-Semitism being made out to be something uniquely left wing when in reality, Anti-Semitism was the bread and butter of the right for years from France in the Dreyfus Affair to Russia with the pogroms.

268 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:21:12am
Obama Immigration Speech: CBS, Fox, NBC & ABC Not Airing

…… President Barack Obama will finally make public tomorrow night his plan to overhaul immigration. However, while his primetime speech will postpone part of Univision’s 15th annual Latin Grammys, it will not be covered by the Big 4.

Too bad it’s not being given by someone really important like Ted Cruz of Rand Paul. But a major policy speech by the POTUS? They’re supposed to interrupt their crapfest of programming for that?

269 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:24:13am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Oh, and I am sure this one is one of those who would squeal loudly how much he supports Israel - just so long as they keep heading towards his magical view of Revelations… < spit >

270 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:26:18am

re: #269 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh, and I am sure this one is one of those who would squeal loudly how much he supports Israel - just so long as they keep heading towards his magical view of Revelations… < spit >

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

271 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:27:27am

All those who were clamoring for a Jim Webb presidential campaign, your prayers have been answered.

Said no one.

272 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 8:29:27am

re: #271 lawhawk

Jim Who?

273 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:29:32am

re: #271 lawhawk

All those who were clamoring for a Jim Webb presidential campaign, your prayers have been answered.

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Said no one.

I actually forgot all about him. I don’t know what he’s thinking or realistically expects since he’s kept a very low profile since leaving office prematurely. I do prefer Kaine to him that said.

274 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:30:21am

Look who’s busting out the impeachment threats - the GOP once again.

GOP Rep Mo Brooks from AL is claiming that Obama’s expected statement on immigration will constitute a felony. Ummmm… NO. But that wont stop the GOP from foisting this nonsense ad infinitum until Obama leaves office.

275 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:30:37am

re: #272 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Jim Who?

Yeah, that’s the Dem’s problem. If it isn’t Hillary or Biden, the response is going to be “who?”.

276 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:31:13am

re: #271 lawhawk

All those who were clamoring for a Jim Webb presidential campaign, your prayers have been answered.

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Said no one.

Shrug. Better than some, less than others. Good grifting move I suppose.

277 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:31:29am

re: #272 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Jim Who?

Scots-Irish fella. He’s really not a bad dude and he’ll forever have my respect for ending the career of George “Macaca” Allen but at the same time, if he wanted to do this, he should have either stayed in the Senate and or not disappeared entirely from politics after retiring. Hell, I saw John Warner doing more for Mark Warner this past election than I saw Webb doing and John Warner isn’t even in the same party as him. Webb’s not a bad guy but not really presidential material. He could make a good cabinet secretary though like defense or vets affairs.

278 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:32:10am

re: #274 lawhawk

Look who’s busting out the impeachment threats - the GOP once again.

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GOP Rep Mo Brooks from AL is claiming that Obama’s expected statement on immigration will constitute a felony. Ummmm… NO. But that wont stop the GOP from foisting this nonsense ad infinitum until Obama leaves office.

But no one’s talking about impeachment. *whisper* impeachment!

279 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 8:32:37am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

I do prefer Kaine to him that said.

Only if he’s Abel.

280 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:32:44am

re: #274 lawhawk

Look who’s busting out the impeachment threats - the GOP once again.

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GOP Rep Mo Brooks from AL is claiming that Obama’s expected statement on immigration will constitute a felony. Ummmm… NO. But that wont stop the GOP from foisting this nonsense ad infinitum until Obama leaves office.

There are going to be so many charges in the bills of impeachment I doubt they’ll be able to get through them all in the next two years.

281 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:33:36am

re: #275 Skip Intro

Yeah, that’s the Dem’s problem. If it isn’t Hillary or Biden, the response is going to be “who?”.

Which honestly isn’t a terrible thing on the surface but at the same time, I really think if Webb was serious about this, he shouldn’t have quit his Senate seat so prematurely and done more to campaign for other Democrats. I mean I guess I am not too surprised. His whole sale is that he’s an independent guy.

282 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:34:06am

re: #280 Skip Intro

There are going to be so many charges in the bills of impeachment I doubt they’ll be able to get through them all in the next two years.

The Most Important: Presidentin’ While Black

283 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:34:19am

This is your GOP - at all levels of government. Moderates and non-racists need not apply:

284 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:35:43am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Our First Amendment defines the Separation of Church and State. Talk of creeping Sharia is just dogwhistle xenophobia and racism.

And it’s also widely ignored, soon to be even more ignored with the ascension of the GOP and the blessings of the Supreme Court.

285 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:37:08am

re: #283 lawhawk

This is your GOP - at all levels of government. Moderates and non-racists need not apply:

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Now someone answer me this, what racial minority or woman would want to share a party with such a pathetic bigot who would well be to the right of Charles Sumner?

286 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:38:07am

re: #279 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Only if he’s Abel.

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Booooooooooooooo!

287 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 8:38:26am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Ben Carson and Herman Cain.

Nein Nein Nein.

288 Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2014 8:39:42am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Which honestly isn’t a terrible thing on the surface but at the same time, I really think if Webb was serious about this, he shouldn’t have quit his Senate seat so prematurely and done more to campaign for other Democrats. I mean I guess I am not too surprised. His whole sale is that he’s an independent guy.

Well, that independent guy is going to need to raise around a billion dollars to be competitive. His chance of doing that? 0 to the tenth power.

289 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:39:56am

re: #287 lawhawk

Ben Carson and Herman Cain.

Nein Nein Nein.

I wonder what Joni Ernst thinks of him and the fact that people like him think that way about women in the service throughout her party but what does she care, she’s John C. Calhoun reincarnated as a woman in Iowa in the 21st century.

290 iossarian  Nov 20, 2014 8:41:15am

re: #287 lawhawk

Ben Carson and Herman Cain.

Nein Nein Nein.

o_O

291 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:41:58am

re: #288 Skip Intro

Well, that independent guy is going to need to raise around a billion dollars to be competitive. His chance of doing that? 0 to the tenth power.

Oh no doubt. I am just saying a relative unknown isn’t necessary a bad quantity. I do think Webb isn’t a good candidate though.

292 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 20, 2014 8:42:28am

re: #274 lawhawk

Look who’s busting out the impeachment threats - the GOP once again.

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GOP Rep Mo Brooks from AL is claiming that Obama’s expected statement on immigration will constitute a felony. Ummmm… NO. But that wont stop the GOP from foisting this nonsense ad infinitum until Obama leaves office.

Oh FFS. All of these Constitution loving, Conservatives. Even if they did Impeach the President, they don’t have the votes to convict.

And even if President Obama was convicted, the Senate cannot sentence him to any jail time. But they would know that if they actually read the Constitution that they claim to love so much (Article I Section 3)

293 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:43:52am

re: #292 nearly-headless smith25

Oh FFS. All of these Constitution loving, Conservatives. Even if they did Impeach the President, they don’t have the votes to convict.

And even if President Obama was convicted, the Senate cannot sentence him to any jail time. But they would know that if they actually read the Constitution that they claim to love so much (Article I Section 3)

theonion.com
5 years old but as true now as it was then. I honestly hope they do try to impeach him because they’re going to fail miserably doing so because it will awaken the American people to the bunch of demagogues they really are.

294 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 8:44:27am

Hmm. Is it just me, or is the “new comments” indicator and automatic new comments feature temporarily out of order? It still works when I click the new comments button tho.

295 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 8:45:13am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

I mean I’ll concede the Nazis used leftist/populist rhetoric but then I would add that the Nazis purged much of the party’s “left wing” in the Night of Long Knives and you can’t really call Nazi “leftists” like Rohm, the Stresser brothers, and others lefties anyhow since they didn’t want social equality for all people of Germany, they wanted it for all “Aryans.” The other funny thing is Anti-Semitism being made out to be something uniquely left wing when in reality, Anti-Semitism was the bread and butter of the right for years from France in the Dreyfus Affair to Russia with the pogroms.

In fact it was the Russian right - they called themselves “right” - who planted the ideological seeds of what was to become Nazism after the Russian revolutions. Some of them were enthusiastic early Hitler-supporters.

296 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 8:45:25am

re: #294 Teukka

Hmm. Is it just me, or is the “new comments” indicator and automatic new comments feature temporarily out of order? It still works when I click the new comments button tho.

Sometimes it gets stuck. Reload the page.

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 8:46:33am

re: #295 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

In fact it was the Russian right - they called themselves “right” - who planted the ideological seeds of what was to become Nazism after the Russian revolutions. Some of them were enthusiastic early Hitler-supporters.

I presume you’re referring to what are usually called the White Russians in most American texts?

298 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:47:30am

re: #295 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

In fact it was the Russian right - they called themselves “right” - who planted the ideological seeds of what was to become Nazism after the Russian revolutions. Some of them were enthusiastic early Hitler-supporters.

Yeah, in fact. One of them, I forget his name off the top of my head from my research was in Berlin almost to the end doing propaganda for the Nazis. I would say the Nazis were heavily influenced by the Russian right.

299 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 8:48:28am

re: #284 Skip Intro

And it’s also widely ignored, soon to be even more ignored with the ascension of the GOP and the blessings of the Supreme Court.

A Supreme Court that can create persons from corporations and confer upon them the rights held by living breathing human beings, a Supreme Court that uses the legal equivalent of alchemy to turn money into protected speech is a Supreme Court that will interpret the Establishment Clause in ways that will make your hair stand on end.

300 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:48:35am

re: #297 William Barnett-Lewis

I presume you’re referring to what are usually called the White Russians in most American texts?

Not just the Whites but the elements of the pre-revolution right that saw Jews behind every opposition to the czar. Looking at my research paper now.

301 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 8:48:49am

re: #296 Vicious Piebola

Sometimes it gets stuck. Reload the page.

Nope. Still issues after 2 reloads :/

302 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 8:51:58am

re: #231 Vicious Piebola

MOAR WTF

[Proud Patriot @ProudPatriot

If being a Muslim is a good thing, then y is obama covering it up and pretending to be Christian? #tcot #teaparty #conservatives #PhonyPOTUS]

Isn’t this like asking someone when are they going to stop beating their wife?

Any answer is falling into a trap.

You know, I am actually at the point where I can’t wait for Obama to be out of office. For his sake, and to stop some of the outright hate so many idiots have.

Between all the Obama hate, the boarder crap, immigration issues and racial issues like Ferguson, I really wonder if this country ever really advanced, or was it all swept under rugs and hidden in backroom closets and drawers.

Internet anonymity allows the realness to come out. It’s like the internet is really a KKK hood for some. Makes me wonder if it is all just a real part of humans. They must need to hate others to make themselves feel better.

And thanks for the acknowledgements of my older brother’s Parkinson’s issues. I feel sort of helpless and I do not do helpless well.

303 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:52:23am

I actually am looking at my old paper here Sergey and would you agree with my assessment that Russian authorities like American authorities in the South during the age of Jim Crow tended to blame Jews for the violence committed against them much like Southern authorities would blame African Americans for the violence committed against them? It’s been a while since I looked at this but I definitely see the parallels between Russian Antisemitism and contemporary racism against blacks but also scapegoating Muslims in the US.

304 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 8:52:33am

re: #243 William Barnett-Lewis

Anyone got a conservative source refuting the jonah goldberg lie that the Nazi’s were leftists? Got a live one at NPR.

They were neither left, nor right, if these terms are seen in their American context. In a more general context, the political ideology was far right populist, the economic policy had a healthy mix of what one could call a “left-wing” component to it (if we call welfare state “left-wing”, for example).

The point being, they’re infamous for their ideological, i.e. right-wing atrocities, not for building the Autobahn, making the trains go on time or breathing.

305 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 8:53:33am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

Yeah, in fact. One of them, I forget his name off the top of my head from my research was in Berlin almost to the end doing propaganda for the Nazis. I would say the Nazis were heavily influenced by the Russian right.

Markov II, a proud right-winger.

306 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:55:02am

re: #305 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Markov II, a proud right-winger.

Thank you. Remembered the name immediately.

307 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 8:55:57am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

The mainstream “intellectual” antisemitism in Tsarist Russia is pretty indistinguishable from the anti-Muslim writings of Spencer, Geller et al., search/replace “Jew” with “Muslim”, “Talmud” with “Koran”, etc.

308 CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2014 8:56:08am

re: #295 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

In fact it was the Russian right - they called themselves “right” - who planted the ideological seeds of what was to become Nazism after the Russian revolutions. Some of them were enthusiastic early Hitler-supporters.

re: #297 William Barnett-Lewis

I presume you’re referring to what are usually called the White Russians in most American texts?

THIS. I just read about it in my book the other night, how it was the White Russians that took the The Protocols with them to the West when they fled Russia after losing to the Bolshevik “Reds” in the Russian Revolution.

309 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 8:58:07am

re: #297 William Barnett-Lewis

I presume you’re referring to what are usually called the White Russians in most American texts?

Not all belyje, but a lot of the White emigres, esp. those to Germany. See this book: amazon.com

310 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 8:59:19am

re: #307 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The mainstream “intellectual” antisemitism in Tsarist Russia is pretty indistinguishable from the anti-Muslim writings of Spencer, Geller et al., search/replace “Jew” with “Muslim”, “Talmud” with “Koran”, etc.

Yeah, I think looking back on it, I wrote this around the “Ground Zero mosque” controversy and felt I had seen parallels between the two. And what I found ended up finding supported that. Longest paper I ever wrote as an undergrad but honestly not the most stressful because I really enjoyed digging into the research. I just wish I had been able to find more first hand sources but it was a very intellectually stimulating research paper.

311 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2014 8:59:37am

My friend is still trapped in her house and got another couple of feet of snow overnight. The lake effect snow warning is still in effect until 1 a.m. Friday.

312 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:00:24am

I think the chief ideologist of Nazism. Alfred Rosenberg was born in the Russian empire. I don’t know too much about him though but i’m almost positive of that.

313 CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2014 9:00:38am

re: #307 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The mainstream “intellectual” antisemitism in Tsarist Russia is pretty indistinguishable from the anti-Muslim writings of Spencer, Geller et al., search/replace “Jew” with “Muslim”, “Talmud” with “Koran”, etc.

It’s taking me forever to finish reading my book for exactly that reason—the similarities creep me out so I have to read it in small doses. Early antisemitism and the later pogroms were awful enough, but now I’m approaching WWII and really dreading it. Ugh.

314 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 9:03:08am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

I think the chief ideologist of Nazism. Alfred Rosenberg was born in the Russian empire. I don’t know too much about him though but i’m almost positive of that.

Wikipedia seems to confirm you:
Альфред Вольдемарович Розенберг, Alfred Woldemarowitsch Rosenberg

315 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:04:48am

re: #309 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Not all belyje, but a lot of the White emigres, esp. those to Germany. See this book: amazon.com

Ah, thank you. It’s always good to get a more nuanced understanding.

ETA: HOLY OUCH BATMAN! That’s a heck of a price tag. Interlibrary loan, here I come!

316 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:04:56am

Wingnuts are spamming this meme:

Somebody already PWN3D it:

317 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:04:56am

re: #313 CuriousLurker

It’s taking me forever to finish reading my book for exactly that reason—the similarities creep me out so I have to read it in small doses. Early antisemitism and the later pogroms were awful enough, but now I’m approaching WWII and really dreading it. Ugh.

It really is creepy. The whispers of “disloyalty”. The talks of Muslims/Jews wanting to kill non-Muslims/Jews. I think that’s the thing looking at it that angers me most about people like Pam Geller. She has to know as a Jewish woman that throughout history Jews have been accused of some very vile things by Antisemites but yet she goes on and does the same exact same thing to Muslims. I mean it would be bad enough if she weren’t Jewish mind you so I am not saying “”Shame on you Pam for doing this, you’re a Jew.” More so that being a Jew should make her more sensitive to the scapegoating of others. Hell being part Irish definitely plays a role in my sympathy to people who want self rule and to be able to practice their religion freely. As well as immigrants as a whole.

318 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 9:06:40am

re: #313 CuriousLurker

It’s taking me forever to finish reading my book for exactly that reason—the similarities creep me out so I have to read it in small doses. Early antisemitism and the later pogroms were awful enough, but now I’m approaching WWII and really dreading it. Ugh.

Yeah. People call me oversensitive when I point out that the shit the Kremlin and Tea Party crews is trying is old—not to mention very bad—news. And the similarities seem to increase as time goes by, I just keep wondering how long before just about the only thing which distinguishes the two from NSDAP will be the name of the scapegoats and in what “reich(s)” name the atrocities are committed.

*smh*

319 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:06:56am

re: #314 Teukka

Wikipedia seems to confirm you:
Альфред Вольдемарович Розенберг, Alfred Woldemarowitsch Rosenberg

Thought so. Knew he was born in the Baltic states but I wasn’t totally sure if the place where he was born was in the Russian empire. I have no doubt at all that he was inspired by what he probably witnessed as a young man. The worst pogroms in the Russian empire in my observations happened in times of turmoil- following first Czar Alexander’s assassination in 1881 and the unrest during the Russo-Japanese War in the mid 1900’s when Alfred Rosenberg would have been a young man coming of age.

320 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 9:07:11am

re: #314 Teukka

There was a controversy recently when the Estonian Jewish community complained about a Rosenberg exhibition in the State Museum.
rus.err.ee

Anyhow, here’s one of the documents from his school days:

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321 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 9:07:53am

re: #315 William Barnett-Lewis

Ah, thank you. It’s always good to get a more nuanced understanding.

ETA: HOLY OUCH BATMAN! That’s a heck of a price tag. Interlibrary loan, here I come!

Pssst. It’s also available for free, if one knows where to search. Pretend I didn’t say that ;)

/

322 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 9:09:29am

re: #320 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There was a controversy recently when the Estonian Jewish community complained about a Rosenberg exhibition in the State Museum.
rus.err.ee

Anyhow, here’s one of the documents from his school days:

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They what!?

*shakes head even more vigorously*

323 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:10:15am

re: #322 Teukka

They what!?

*shakes head even more vigorously*

Can’t read Russian. Mind a quick translate.

324 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:11:11am

re: #321 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Pssst. It’s also available for free, if one knows where to search. Pretend I didn’t say that ;)

/

Ah. I wonder what you could possibly mean by that … < whistles> < walks away >

325 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 9:11:37am

re: #322 Teukka

I don’t know if it was a more objective exposition, or something more enthusiastic. But if the Jewish community didn’t like it, maybe it was at least tone-deaf.

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326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 9:11:42am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Can’t read Russian. Mind a quick translate.

Looks like his school records.

327 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:12:11am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Looks like his school records.

I figured that but I meant the article too.

328 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 9:13:48am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Looks like his school records.

He had 5 in God’s law, German and French, and only 4 in Russian, algebra and arithmetics. Meh.

329 Teukka  Nov 20, 2014 9:14:18am

re: #325 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t know if it was a more objective exposition, or something more enthusiastic. But if the Jewish community didn’t like it, maybe it was at least tone-deaf.

Image: def6b5a5-2288-4399-9695-a7d1831b7c65.jpg

Tone-deaf-ish, yeah. Not anti-semitic as such in my opinion tho.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2014 9:17:58am
331 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:20:16am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Humility really isn’t Rand’s strong suit is it. And I’ll give Rand some credit. He’s not a total dick like some Republicans are about restoring rights but as this tweet gets at, no one has done more for civil rights in Congress than John Lewis and he in fact nearly died doing so. Paul’s statements show how little respect he has for history and for his fellow Congressman. Plus Paul is also a two-faced asshole.

332 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:22:26am

You can’t call yourself a strong champion of civil rights when you’re on record of saying you would have voted against the most important civil rights legislation of last century and when you employed a “Confederate avenger.” Plus Rand needs to show respect to the AA community. His actions at Howard showed that he’s a total jerk who thinks AA voters are too stupid to know that the Republican Party once supported civil rights.

333 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:23:16am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Humility really isn’t Rand’s strong suit is it. And I’ll give Rand some credit. He’s not a total dick like some Republicans are about restoring rights but as this tweet gets at, no one has done more for civil rights in Congress than John Lewis and he in fact nearly died doing so. Paul’s statements show how little respect he has for history and for his fellow Congressman. Plus Paul is also a two-faced asshole.

Yes, he is a total dick

334 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 9:24:09am

From newsmax:

Major Spanish-Language Networks Alone in Airing Immigration Speech

Because the “liberal” msm networks refuse to carry it.

But, according to article, there is a more prosaic reason: it falls during Sweeps Week and nobody wants to risk losing ratings points.

335 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:25:50am

re: #333 Vicious Piebola

Yes, he is a total dick

To his credit and I hate hate giving Rand Paul credit for anything, he has at least talked about it. Now he’s still a slime ball who should only be allowed to visit the WH on tours and I’d be saying the same about him in Congress if he hadn’t already been elected.

336 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:25:58am

HURR HURR TEH IMPOSTER KENYEN USURPER MARXIST MUSLIN DICKTATER IS HIDING HIS TRUTHS FROM U!!!!1!!!!!

337 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:26:10am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

You can’t call yourself a strong champion of civil rights when you’re on record of saying you would have voted against the most important civil rights legislation of last century and when you employed a “Confederate avenger.” Plus Rand needs to show respect to the AA community. His actions at Howard showed that he’s a total jerk who thinks AA voters are too stupid to know that the Republican Party once supported civil rights.

Yes, but…

All lies and jests, still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest, hmmmm

— Paul Simon

338 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:27:33am

re: #337 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, but…

Yep. He’s still a bigoted kook and I didn’t even touch on how hostile he is to gay rights.

339 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:28:18am

re: #336 Vicious Piebola

HURR HURR TEH IMPOSTER KENYEN USURPER MARXIST MUSLIN DICKTATER IS HIDING HIS TRUTHS FROM U!!!!1!!!!!

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Yeah because Obama chooses what networks choose to air his speech. It’s you dear wingnut that are chickenshit. That you can’t handle people who aren’t white bread cowards like you sharing a country with you.

340 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:30:01am

French TV chyron FAIL:

341 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:30:21am

By the way good for Telemundo and Univision for actually doing what television networks should be doing. How fucking typical of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the others for probably already having their narrative dug out about the speech but not bothering to actually show the people it. I swear. I don’t know who I despise more. The right wing assholes who reflexively oppose anything Obama does or the media who give them every reason to by being shitastic journalists.

342 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 9:33:13am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

By the way good for Telemundo and Univision for actually doing what television networks should be doing. How fucking typical of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the others for probably already having their narrative dug out about the speech but not bothering to actually show the people it. I swear. I don’t know who I despise more. The right wing assholes who reflexively oppose anything Obama does or the media who give them every reason to by being shitastic journalists.

There is a more prosaic reason for it: sweeps week. Nobody is going to risk losing ratings points over immigration reform.

343 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 20, 2014 9:34:14am
344 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 9:34:37am

re: #333 Vicious Piebola

Yes, he is a total dick

He’s a dick’s dick but as the recent midterms suggest, that’s enough to get them to the polls.

345 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 9:35:14am

re: #340 Vicious Piebola

I’m sure the chyron rotated. I’m curious how the victims were described.

346 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:35:55am

re: #344 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He’s a dick’s dick but as the recent midterms suggest, that’s enough to get them to the polls.

Being a dick is a virtue to the GOP base. See, Romney, Mitt.

347 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 9:36:32am

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like there’s a Muslim version of David Barton out there.

348 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 20, 2014 9:37:16am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a more prosaic reason for it: sweeps week. Nobody is going to risk losing ratings points over immigration reform.

That’s it; Obama just needs to go on Dancing with the Stars. OTOH, it could be that the public prefers bullshit sound bites to knowing anything about the issues.

349 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:37:29am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

I’m sure the chyron rotated. I’m curious how the victims were described.

I’m pretty sure that “pères de plusieurs enfants” was a description of the victims and just shoved into the chyron haphazardly.

350 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 9:38:54am

re: #349 Vicious Piebola

I’m pretty sure that “pères de plusieurs enfants” was a description of the victims and just shoved into the chyron haphazardly.

I guess French TV stations use underpaid interns as well.

351 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 9:40:34am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

This is one of the tweets by that news outlet:

translated - four deaths among the faithful, the two Palestinian aggressors killed.

352 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:42:10am

Man Buzzfeed has a lot of nonsenical articles but just read a story about a guy who spent 39 years in jail based on false testimony that was gotten by feeding misinformation and then threatening a 12 year old child. Man. Yeah it’s no wonder that many people are going to be pissed if Darren Wilson isn’t indicated.

353 Pip's Squeak  Nov 20, 2014 9:43:05am

re: #183 William Barnett-Lewis

NPR, BBC, Deutsche Welt are my primary media these days.

The BBC site really isn’t what it used to be. Unfortunately. Deutsche Welle is a good idea. Thanks.

354 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 9:43:33am

re: #351 lawhawk

This is one of the tweets by that news outlet:

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translated - four deaths among the faithful, the two Palestinian aggressors killed.

Love that passive voice. You’d think they all passed away from cancer or old age or something.

355 Kragar  Nov 20, 2014 9:44:33am

Conservative Christian pastor Bryan Fischer declared in a column for renewamerica.com that the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion must only apply to Christianity.

Otherwise, he warned, Satanism will have to be recognized as an official religion.

Some body tell Bryan that Satanism IS recognized as an official religion.

356 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 9:47:27am

re: #355 Kragar

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Some body tell Bryan that Satanism IS recognized as an official religion.

Bryan again shows why he fails as a Constitutional scholar. Go home, Bryan, you’re drunk yet again.

357 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:49:00am

re: #353 Pip’s Squeak

The BBC site really isn’t what it used to be. Unfortunately. Deutsche Welle is a good idea. Thanks.

It’s my favorite place for Europe centered news. I got into it on shortwave while stationed in Germany a lifetime (1982 - 1983 & for a short time in 1993) ago.

I’d dearly love to visit Munich, Nuremberg, Ansbach, Illeshiem, Bad Winsburg, Rothenburg ab den Tauber & other stomping grounds again though I doubt I will ever have the money in this life.

358 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:50:45am

re: #355 Kragar

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Some body tell Bryan that Satanism IS recognized as an official religion.

Phifft. Bryan IS a satanist. Far more seriously than Anton Le Vey ever was… Unlike Le Vey, he really does worship evil.

359 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 9:50:47am

Damn, just saw that my favorite local independent bookstore is going to have the Gingriches in to do a book signing. Can’t wait to see ‘em line up to hear him yap about family values alongside wife number… I’ve lost count.

It’s wife number 3, and his relationship with Callista (a House staffer no less) began while he was still married to wife 2.

Yeah, but let him rail on about how gay marriage will destroy the nation.

360 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 9:51:46am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

By the way good for Telemundo and Univision for actually doing what television networks should be doing. How fucking typical of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the others for probably already having their narrative dug out about the speech but not bothering to actually show the people it. I swear. I don’t know who I despise more. The right wing assholes who reflexively oppose anything Obama does or the media who give them every reason to by being shitastic journalists.

Whoa. Isn’t MSNBC carrying it live?

I think it is sad that the major networks (Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS aren’t covering it) by the way, but I am pretty sure MSNBC will. Maybe I am missing something.

361 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:52:21am

re: #359 lawhawk

Damn, just saw that my favorite local independent bookstore is going to have the Gingriches in to do a book signing. Can’t wait to see ‘em line up to hear him yap about family values alongside wife number… I’ve lost count.

It’s wife number 3, and his relationship with Callista (a House staffer no less) began while he was still married to wife 2.

Yeah, but let him rail on about how gay marriage will destroy the nation.

Go to the signing and ask her how her health is… since you’re curious about how long till Mrs G Mk IV comes along… ;)

362 sagehen  Nov 20, 2014 9:52:25am

re: #316 Vicious Piebola

Wingnuts are spamming this meme:

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Anybody who wants to do serious pwning, not just the generic… I’m sure there’s something to be found. How much help did he get from the SBA? Does he get tax credits for employees in certain categories (vets, etc)? How much of his business is government construction projects? If it’s all single-family homes, are they FHA housing? Did the city offer any incentives to locate his business in a particular place?

363 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 9:53:04am

re: #355 Kragar

I prefer to read the original sense of the 1st Amd. as “Deport Fischer’s ass to Iran”.

364 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 9:55:21am

re: #363 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I prefer to read the original sense of the 1st Amd. as “Deport Fischer’s ass to Iran”.

Ah, I sympathize but alas, they’d be getting drunk and laughing at him while sighing that, yes, that is the price we pay for our idea of the 1st Amendment.

365 Timothy Watson  Nov 20, 2014 9:57:14am

re: #271 lawhawk

All those who were clamoring for a Jim Webb presidential campaign, your prayers have been answered.

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Said no one.

As I said on another blog in the comments, Webb will get bored/tired in a week and quit.

366 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:00:03am

Of course it’s a Republican.

367 Varek Raith  Nov 20, 2014 10:00:18am

They’re going to get 3 more snow.

368 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 10:01:59am
Hansen keeps a Confederate battle flag on his wall, which he says that he flies “proudly in honor and in memory of a great cause and my brave ancestors who fought for that cause.”

Wait, I thought Confederates were Democrats, why would he honor those slave-holding libs? /

369 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:02:29am

Cognitive Dissonance R Repubs
They were just saying “TEH DICKTATER” was keeping his speech off the networks

370 Varek Raith  Nov 20, 2014 10:02:41am

re: #368 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Wait, I thought Confederates were Democrats, why would he honor those slave-holding libs? /

Because shut up.

371 BeachDem  Nov 20, 2014 10:02:42am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Humility really isn’t Rand’s strong suit is it. And I’ll give Rand some credit. He’s not a total dick like some Republicans are about restoring rights but as this tweet gets at, no one has done more for civil rights in Congress than John Lewis and he in fact nearly died doing so. Paul’s statements show how little respect he has for history and for his fellow Congressman. Plus Paul is also a two-faced asshole.

Those things don’t matter to wingers (and to dudebros). In the comments on a story at Mediaite about Lewis, in which he called for non-violent protests, they were calling him a race baiter, a racist, a lefty race peddler, the equivalent of Al Sharpton’s unpaid intern, a joke, etc. etc. JOHN LEWIS.

These people have no shame (and no brains.)

372 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 10:06:44am

re: #354 Vicious Piebola

Love that passive voice. You’d think they all passed away from cancer or old age or something.

I think the context is clear enough, plus it’s a translation. Not sure how passive the original French is.

373 iossarian  Nov 20, 2014 10:09:08am

re: #369 Vicious Piebola

Cognitive Dissonance R Repubs
They were just saying “TEH DICKTATER” was keeping his speech off the networks

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Dicktater just makes me think of the Beastie Boys sample.

But yes, the hypocrisy is strong here. “He’s trying to keep it secret!” “He’s whining that people didn’t help him broadcast it to everyone!”

374 Pip's Squeak  Nov 20, 2014 10:10:04am

re: #372 Ace-o-aces

I think the context is clear enough, plus it’s a translation. Not sure how passive the original French is.

Perhaps I’m wrong, but I think the auxiliary verb to abattus is understood.

375 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 10:13:02am

re: #355 Kragar

376 Romantic Heretic  Nov 20, 2014 10:13:21am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

Incompetent fuckers. Yeah, let’s have people tell us that Obama is fermenting violence (Hi, Senator Coburn) but not bother actually showing his speech and what he’s talking about. Fuck the media and fuck the right wing fear mongrels even more.

At what they are meaning to do, that is make money, they are quite competent.

At what they are supposed to do, that is inform the public of current events and the background to those events, not so much.

377 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:14:15am

re: #371 BeachDem

Those things don’t matter to wingers (and to dudebros). In the comments on a story at Mediaite about Lewis, in which he called for non-violent protests, they were calling him a race baiter, a racist, a lefty race peddler, the equivalent of Al Sharpton’s unpaid intern, a joke, etc. etc. JOHN LEWIS.

These people have no shame (and no brains.)

I don’t admire many people in Congress but I make an exception for Lewis. Someone who literally risked his life for civil rights. Rand Paul? Who no one would give a shit about if not for his kook father. Notta.

378 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:15:00am
379 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:15:01am

re: #369 Vicious Piebola

Cognitive Dissonance R Repubs
They were just saying “TEH DICKTATER” was keeping his speech off the networks

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Mr. I like to outcrazy Alex Jones say what?

380 BeachDem  Nov 20, 2014 10:15:03am

And speaking of Republicans going back to the same well time and again…

Jeff Flake: If Obama Took Partial Credit For A Deal On Immigration Principles Reached By Eight Senators, It Would “Poison The Well” With Republicans. […]

Marco Rubio: Obama’s 2012 Executive Orders On Immigration “Poisoned The Well.” […]

Lindsey Graham: Obama’s Strategy On Gun Control “Poisoned The Well.” […]

U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Spokesman Bruce Josten: Obama National Labor Relations Board Appointments “Further Poison The Well.” […]

Rep. Paul Ryan: Obama’s Criticism Of Ryan Budget “Poisoned The Well” In The Budget Debate. […]

Senator Lindsey Graham: If Democrats Use Reconciliation To Pass Affordable Care Act, It’s “Going To Poison The Well For Anything Else They Would Like To Achieve For This Year Or Thereafter.” […]

Sen. Bob Corker: Democratic Efforts To Repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell “Poisons The Well” On The START Treaty With Russia.

Damn. If we are talking about a single well, that is an extreme amount of poison in it. Thing is, I believe we are talking about the metaphorical well of Republican willingness to cooperate with Democrats, in which case, that well is bone dry to begin with and has been for years.

dailykos.com

381 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:16:14am

re: #380 BeachDem

And speaking of Republicans going back to the same well time and again…

Jeff Flake: If Obama Took Partial Credit For A Deal On Immigration Principles Reached By Eight Senators, It Would “Poison The Well” With Republicans. […]

Marco Rubio: Obama’s 2012 Executive Orders On Immigration “Poisoned The Well.” […]

Lindsey Graham: Obama’s Strategy On Gun Control “Poisoned The Well.” […]

U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Spokesman Bruce Josten: Obama National Labor Relations Board Appointments “Further Poison The Well.” […]

Rep. Paul Ryan: Obama’s Criticism Of Ryan Budget “Poisoned The Well” In The Budget Debate. […]

Senator Lindsey Graham: If Democrats Use Reconciliation To Pass Affordable Care Act, It’s “Going To Poison The Well For Anything Else They Would Like To Achieve For This Year Or Thereafter.” […]

Sen. Bob Corker: Democratic Efforts To Repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell “Poisons The Well” On The START Treaty With Russia.

Damn. If we are talking about a single well, that is an extreme amount of poison in it. Thing is, I believe we are talking about the metaphorical well of Republican willingness to cooperate with Democrats, in which case, that well is bone dry to begin with and has been for years.

dailykos.com

Obama poisoned the well with these mental midgets the second he had the nerve to get elected president by a majority of his countrymen.

382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 20, 2014 10:17:19am

re: #348 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s it; Obama just needs to go on Dancing with the Stars. OTOH, it could be that the public prefers bullshit sound bites to knowing anything about the issues.

Yes, one would think that such a pressing issue would warrant a lot more interest and attention but

SQUIRREL

383 BeachDem  Nov 20, 2014 10:18:06am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

I don’t admire many people in Congress but I make an exception for Lewis. Someone who literally risked his life for civil rights. Rand Paul? Who no one would give a shit about if not for his kook father. Notta.

Yeah, John Lewis is definitely somebody to look up to (and listen to.) That the wingers not only don’t agree with him, but will denigrate and insult him says a whole lot more about them than about him.

Rand Paul as a civil rights hero? It is to laugh.

384 TedStriker  Nov 20, 2014 10:18:10am

re: #363 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I prefer to read the original sense of the 1st Amd. as “Deport Fischer’s ass to Iran”.

385 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 20, 2014 10:18:25am

Time to crash, hard. :D Gotta work tonight & it’s getting late. Later folks.

386 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:21:14am

re: #383 BeachDem

Yeah, John Lewis is definitely somebody to look up to (and listen to.) That the wingers not only don’t agree with him, but will denigrate and insult him says a whole lot more about them than about him.

Rand Paul as a civil rights hero? It is to laugh.

He’s someone who knows that the opponents of civil rights were right wing assholes like them and they hate him for being living proof that you can overcome state sanctioned right wing assholery.

387 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 10:21:29am

re: #378 Vicious Piebola

Now Savage is complaining that religion is making the Jews weak? I swear, the man is reverting to his old commie beliefs.

388 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:22:38am

re: #387 Ace-o-aces

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Now Savage is complaining that religion is making the Jews weak? I swear, the man is reverting to his old commie beliefs.

Scratch a right wing asshole, find a former left wing asshole. Savage like David Horowitz is someone who would be an asshole regardless of their ideology.

389 Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2014 10:24:25am

re: #384 TedStriker

I remember that movie. I think I was one of two people in the theater who got that joke.
(There was a real gangster in the 30’s who falsely claimed Swedish citizenship to avoid certain legal issues, so prosecutors had him deported there).

390 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 20, 2014 10:25:23am

Livestreamer arrested in #Ferguson last night:

391 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:26:43am
392 withak  Nov 20, 2014 10:27:10am

re: #390 nearly-headless smith25

Livestreamer arrested in #Ferguson last night:

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This is good advice for anyone, in any situation. Who doesn’t lock their phone?

393 Eventual Carrion  Nov 20, 2014 10:28:26am

re: #391 Vicious Piebola

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Then if you do that by my house, god says I can use spike strips.

394 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:29:09am

re: #391 Vicious Piebola

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Was this the same “God” that told him that he can leg press more than professional bodybuilders can? Me thinks Pat’s off his meds yet again.

395 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:30:12am

If God says Pat can go over 100 MPH on the roads, why should God care about what you do in your own home with a consenting adult? Funny how Pat seems to think that the Almighty condones what does but not what other people do.

396 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:31:58am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

If God says Pat can go over 100 MPH on the roads, why should God care about what you do in your own home with a consenting adult? Funny how Pat seems to think that the Almighty condones what does but not what other people do.

Pat has a classic muscle car but he told impoverished seniors to “sell their stuff on ebay” in order to “keep on tithing”

397 Varek Raith  Nov 20, 2014 10:32:00am

God says I can press this shiny, red button.

398 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:32:07am
399 Romantic Heretic  Nov 20, 2014 10:32:07am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Isn’t this like asking someone when are they going to stop beating their wife?Makes me wonder if it is all just a real part of humans. They must need to hate others to make themselves feel better.

They do.

400 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 10:32:15am

Are all the crazies coming unglued today???

It is as if Obama doing the address about his executive action is like a Catholic priest walking up to a house that is full of demons and all the demons are out to scare him away or something.

Is Savage’s or Fischer’s head spinning, or are they levitating?

401 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:33:13am

re: #396 Vicious Piebola

Pat has a classic muscle car but he told impoverished seniors to “sell their stuff on ebay” in order to “keep on tithing”

Yeah. Yet another multi-millionaire pastor who lives like the people that Christ hated.

402 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 20, 2014 10:33:29am

This is the guy who primaried Eric Cantor:

403 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:34:14am

re: #398 Vicious Piebola

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I believe that’s for your colleague, Mr. Cruz, Rand who thinks he’s the King of the Senate. But nice try making Obama doing executive action on something that everyone of his predecessors have done. Why don’t you cry to someone who gives a damn like your pathetic father.

404 withak  Nov 20, 2014 10:34:46am

re: #398 Vicious Piebola

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You’d think a sitting senator would have better things to do than to snark at the POTUS on Twitter. I expect better behavior out of my fifth-grader.

(And, yes, I realize it’s probably a staffer doing this, and in that case, that staffer needs to find more productive ways to use his/her time.)

405 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:37:03am

re: #404 withak

You’d think a sitting senator would have better things to do than to snark at the POTUS on Twitter. I expect better behavior out of my fifth-grader.

(And, yes, I realize it’s probably a staffer doing this, and in that case, that staffer needs to find more productive ways to use his/her time.)

Well it is a staffer no doubt but at the same time, you know that Rand had the final go. Not surprising behavior from the former boss of a Confederate avenger.

406 HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2014 10:38:08am

re: #400 ObserverArt

Are all the crazies coming unglued today???

It is as if Obama doing the address about his executive action is like a Catholic priest walking up to a house that is full of demons and all the demons are out to scare him away or something.

Is Savage’s or Fischer’s head spinning, or are they levitating?

All Obama has to do is say “I’m going to speak tonight on an important issue” and it just drives them crazy. They’re going to be so bored when Obama leaves office because they will have to find a new outlet for their hatred.

407 lawhawk  Nov 20, 2014 10:38:28am

re: #398 Vicious Piebola

The junior senator who has delusions of grandeur ought to get a thumb sucker and pacifier.

408 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 10:40:24am

re: #378 Vicious Piebola

Don Lemon is an amateur.

409 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 10:41:07am

re: #398 Vicious Piebola

[Senator Rand Paul ✔ @SenRandPaul

The “president who thinks he’s a king” starter pack. cc:@BarackObama ]

I bet ol’ Rand is hoping he gets that kit next. Fucker.

By the way, what a sophomoric display by him. A 12 year old boy wouldn’t even be impressed. This is a senator. This is a guy that wants to be president. Disqualified.

410 Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2014 10:46:55am

re: #397 Varek Raith

God says I can press this shiny, red button.

God says have a T.V. show
God says baby do some blow
God says taxes are a sin
God says pour the money in
Rape the poor, faith no more
Faith for cash, make me laugh
Faith no more, face the whore
Rape your past, make me laugh

God says have a swimming pool
God say keep the doghouse cool
God says planes and boats and cars
God says have an amusement park
God says go and masturbate
God says file taxes late
God says paint your face all sick
God says be a real prick
God says have a T.V. show
God says baby do some blow
God says taxes are a sin
God says pour the money in
- Anthrax, Make Me Laugh

411 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 20, 2014 10:52:42am

re: #391 Vicious Piebola

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To be fair, he never said anything like that. Raw Story lied.

412 Kryptik  Nov 20, 2014 10:56:08am

re: #404 withak

re: #405 HappyWarrior

re: #409 ObserverArt

Unfortunately, to far too many, this constitutes a ‘brave stand’ and not only will he not get any blowback from it that matters, but he’ll get praised to high hell, because, you know, GOP isn’t supposed to be accountable for fucking anything.

413 ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2014 11:19:12am

re: #412 Kryptik

Unfortunately, to far too many, this constitutes a ‘brave stand’ and not only will he not get any blowback from it that matters, but he’ll get praised to high hell, because, you know, GOP isn’t supposed to be accountable for fucking anything.

So what you are saying is…asking for just a little bit of maturity and class out of mop-head is just asking for too much?

You probably are right.

414 Kryptik  Nov 20, 2014 11:34:02am

re: #413 ObserverArt

Not when he gets rewarded for being a little shit and then projecting his shittiness on his political opponents. GOP projection is how they’ve gotten away with acting like Obama is simultaneous a despotic tyrant decreeing everything from on high without question and a weak-kneed ineffectual dope who can’t do anything, without getting called out for it.


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