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1 makeitstop  Nov 21, 2014 4:10:54pm

All the shameful things that have come out of this tragedy, and they top it off with a news dump. Typical, and shameful.

2 Jenner7  Nov 21, 2014 4:12:37pm
3 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:12:44pm

Somehow, it doesn’t surprise me that this comes on the Friday before the week of Thanksgiving, when most people will be making travel plans, preparing for the arrival of relatives, or setting up plans for Thanksgiving dinner rather than paying attention to the news.

4 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 4:19:39pm

No charges, to be released around midnight. Darren Wilson to be whisked away to the capitol for the unveiling of his bust in the Limbaugh wing of the hall of great Missourians.

5 compound_Idaho  Nov 21, 2014 4:27:52pm

I’m not convinced these “sources” know anything. I think the grand jury will bring an indictment against Wilson.

6 thecommodore  Nov 21, 2014 4:29:44pm

Off topic, but a House panel report on Benghazi debunks the idiotic conspiracy theories.

bigstory.ap.org

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 21, 2014 4:30:06pm

re: #2 Jenner7

yep, guys like this:

8 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:30:15pm

re: #5 compound_Idaho

I’m not convinced these “sources” know anything. I think the grand jury will bring an indictment against Wilson.

If it does, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. Based on the events since August, I don’t expect to be making such an admission.

9 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:31:20pm

re: #6 thecommodore

Off topic, but a House panel report on Benghazi debunks the idiotic conspiracy theories.

bigstory.ap.org

Yeah, the report gets dumped weeks after the Election, on a Friday afternoon when the Ferguson GJ is expected to make its announcement.

In other words, they might as well have just tossed it in the garbage for all the relevance it will ultimately have.

10 thecommodore  Nov 21, 2014 4:32:18pm

re: #2 Jenner7

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That’s obviously a lie. Al Sharpton says he said to “stay the course. ” Jim Hoft reported that.

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11 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 4:32:25pm

re: #6 thecommodore

Seven fails? No big deal. They’re going to start all over again next year, this time with help from the GOP Senate.

12 BeachDem  Nov 21, 2014 4:33:02pm

With all the supposed extra training and such that they’ve had for dealing with the Ferguson protests, don’t you all think they should, by now, be able to identify and isolate those anarchist and communist crazies who have been showing up?

Charles was able to identify them just from still photos early on. You’d think the cops and/or the FBI and Homeland Security gang who are hanging around would be able to draw a bead on them and get them the fuck away from the legitimate protesters.

13 Shiplord Kirel  Nov 21, 2014 4:34:03pm

A minor benefit if the GJ does somehow indict Wilson: The anarchists will be sent slinking back to mom’s basement with their tails between their legs. I wonder if they will scream “betrayal!”?

14 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:36:36pm

If there is an indictment, one of the first things we can expect will be wingnuts screaming that the jurors were pressured into it by the “angry mob” and/or the Feds pressured McCollough to bring charges. There will be, in some way, an effort to portray an indictment as a miscarriage of justice.

15 thecommodore  Nov 21, 2014 4:39:00pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

If there is an indictment, one of the first things we can expect will be wingnuts screaming that the jurors were pressured into it by the “angry mob” and/or the Feds pressured McCollough to bring charges. There will be, in some way, an effort to portray an indictment as a miscarriage of justice.

Or that Obama and Eric Holder bribed them into indicting Wilson to distract from the immigration EO…as well as Benghazi.

16 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 4:39:43pm

re: #12 BeachDem

With all the supposed extra training and such that they’ve had for dealing with the Ferguson protests, don’t you all think they should, by now, be able to identify and isolate those anarchist and communist crazies who have been showing up?

Charles was able to identify them just from still photos early on. You’d think the cops and/or the FBI and Homeland Security gang who are hanging around would be able to draw a bead on them and get them the fuck away from the legitimate protesters.

But it doesn’t work that way. The only people on the scene who gain from controlling the crazies/provocateurs are the legitimate protesters. If they have spent their last 104 days growing a strong leadership and disciplined structure, they can ‘dissuade’ the parasites.

17 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 21, 2014 4:42:28pm

re: #12 BeachDem

With all the supposed extra training and such that they’ve had for dealing with the Ferguson protests, don’t you all think they should, by now, be able to identify and isolate those anarchist and communist crazies who have been showing up?

Charles was able to identify them just from still photos early on. You’d think the cops and/or the FBI and Homeland Security gang who are hanging around would be able to draw a bead on them and get them the fuck away from the legitimate protesters.

I hope you’re not suggesting that the only thing accomplished by the whole Homeland Security/domestic surveillance apparatus is a massive transfer of money to government contractors.

18 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 4:43:24pm

re: #17 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I hope you’re not suggesting that the only thing accomplished by the whole Homeland Security/domestic surveillance apparatus is a massive transfer of money to government contractors.

No. It also looks great on an SF171.

19 BeachDem  Nov 21, 2014 4:46:49pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

But it doesn’t work that way. The only people on the scene who gain from controlling the crazies/provocateurs are the legitimate protesters. If they have spent their last 104 days growing a strong leadership and disciplined structure, they can ‘dissuade’ the parasites.

Sigh. I suppose you’re right. Sorry, I was off riding my unicorn and got distracted for a minute—thinking of how things should work.

20 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 21, 2014 4:46:50pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

No. It also looks great on an SF171.

Oh, well that’s okay then.

21 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 4:48:00pm

Hola Lizards! It’s been a long, frustrating day. Thank goodness for the weekend.

Have they announced the inevitable refusal to indict Darren Wilson yet?

22 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 4:50:29pm

re: #21 Lidane

Hola Lizards! It’s been a long, frustrating day. Thank goodness for the weekend.

Have they announced the inevitable refusal to indict Darren Wilson yet?

It’s too early. They’re going to wait until most people have gone to bed or are too drunk to care.

Anyone know when bed time is in Missouri? Around 8:00p.m. or so?

23 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 4:51:02pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Sigh. I suppose you’re right. Sorry, I was off riding my unicorn and got distracted for a minute—thinking of how things should work.

Not suggesting our masked anarchist friends are actually on the bosses’ payroll, just insisting that it makes no difference.

24 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 4:51:10pm

Talk faster friends, I’m being drawn toward the siren song of the Twitters. and I need to be distracted.

25 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 4:51:28pm

Driving home from work a text came across from a mystery number. My heart jumped hard. (I signed up for the text notification of the GJ decision)

Thank Dog it was CVS.

26 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 4:51:37pm

Several people said they used “incorrect” for theirs so that when they forgot it, the software automatically prompted them with the right one (“your password is incorrect”)

27 lawhawk  Nov 21, 2014 4:51:38pm

The breaking news chyron must be broken at CNN, because it’s always breaking news, even when it isn’t.

28 darthstar  Nov 21, 2014 4:52:13pm

Really? They haven’t decided yet? Of course they have…they’re just waiting until people are busy with their weekend plans before announcing so there’s less uproar.

If they’d indicted Wilson they would have announced days ago and spared us the national guard bullshit.

29 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 4:53:36pm

re: #27 lawhawk

The breaking news chyron must be broken at CNN, because it’s always breaking news, even when it isn’t.

It should be like an old pair of shoes by now, well broken in with a huge hole in the sole.

30 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 4:54:24pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

But it doesn’t work that way. The only people on the scene who gain from controlling the crazies/provocateurs are the legitimate protesters. If they have spent their last 104 days growing a strong leadership and disciplined structure, they can ‘dissuade’ the parasites.

And they have been trying. Did you call into the last Ferguson Fireside by chance? (I asked before, but missed any answer)

31 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:55:33pm

re: #28 darthstar

Really? They haven’t decided yet? Of course they have…they’re just waiting until people are busy with their weekend plans before announcing so there’s less uproar.

If they’d indicted Wilson they would have announced days ago and spared us the national guard bullshit.

I believe it was yesterday that they suddenly announced that McCullough was presenting some last-minute evidence today before sending the jury away to deliberate.

32 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 4:55:35pm

re: #27 lawhawk

The breaking news chyron must be broken at CNN, because it’s always breaking news, even when it isn’t.

And you broke the story….

RBS

33 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 4:56:05pm

re: #30 #FergusonFireside

And they have been trying. Did you call into the last Ferguson Fireside by chance? (I asked before, but missed any answer)

Sorry—Been out of the loop completely, traveling to Birmingham. This is my first day in a week with good connectivity.

34 darthstar  Nov 21, 2014 4:56:34pm
35 darthstar  Nov 21, 2014 4:57:05pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

I believe it was yesterday that they suddenly announced that McCullough was presenting some last-minute evidence today before sending the jury away to deliberate.

BREAKING: DARREN WILSON IS WHITE —CNN

36 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 21, 2014 4:57:22pm

re: #21 Lidane

Hola Lizards! It’s been a long, frustrating day. Thank goodness for the weekend.

Have they announced the inevitable refusal to indict Darren Wilson yet?

Not yet. Local sources are saying that the jury has sent out for a fresh deck of playing cards though.

37 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 4:57:59pm

re: #27 lawhawk

The breaking news chyron must be broken at CNN, because it’s always breaking news, even when it isn’t.

That in itself constitutes breaking news on CNN.

38 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 4:58:31pm

re: #35 darthstar

BREAKING: DARREN WILSON IS WHITE —CNN

What?! That’s extraordinary! How long have you been sitting on this information?!

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39 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 4:58:52pm

Hi all. So the latest wingnut outrage was that Wilson was being forced to resign? Like he would ever be an accepted, effective cop ever again in Ferguson?

40 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 4:59:27pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

What?! That’s extraordinary! How long have you been sitting on this information?!

//

Old news. CCJ scooped him days ago.

41 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 5:00:03pm

re: #39 bill d

Hi all. So the latest wingnut outrage was that Wilson was being forced to resign? Like he would ever be an accepted, effective cop ever again in Ferguson?

I’m really curious what they think was going to happen. That if Wilson’s efforts to erase his identity had succeeded back in August, he would have just gone back to the job as soon as the GJ let him go?

42 BeachDem  Nov 21, 2014 5:00:10pm

OK—they’ve been hearing evidence for how long? And they just got sent out to deliberate this afternoon, right?

Will we be hearing all about the “rush to judgment” when they come back in a matter of a few hours with their no bill (that’s my guess)?

43 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 5:01:04pm

re: #39 bill d

Hi all. So the latest wingnut outrage was that Wilson was being forced to resign? Like he would ever be an accepted, effective cop ever again in Ferguson?

I don’t know why you say that. He looks to have the makings of being chief there.

Still, with his name recognition and half a million in donations, I see a new GOP star rising.

44 Bubblehead II  Nov 21, 2014 5:04:59pm

Great. Another victory for the anti-vaxers.

Mumps outbreak at University of Idaho

Mumps is a highly contagious virus, but not all that common. There have been only six cases of mumps in Idaho in the last five years. But right now there are 10 confirmed cases associated with the U of I and another 20 cases being investigated.

45 Jenner7  Nov 21, 2014 5:05:22pm

re: #25 #FergusonFireside

Me too. I kept checking during The Hunger Games. lol

46 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:05:25pm

A friend of mine posted this on her FB timeline. I told her that the first thing they teach you in Warrior Goddess School is “Don’t Shoot Arrows Straight Up”. She agreed that was probably a bad idea.

Be Yourself (but Safely)

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 21, 2014 5:06:37pm

re: #22 Skip Intro

It’s too early. They’re going to wait until most people have gone to bed or are too drunk to care.

Anyone know when bed time is in Missouri? Around 8:00p.m. or so?

Apparently they roll up the sidewalks at sundown, which might explain all of the after-dark arrests…

48 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 21, 2014 5:07:12pm

re: #46 RealityBasedEbola

Be yourself! And get that scoliosis looked at right away.

49 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:08:44pm

re: #46 RealityBasedEbola

A friend of mine posted this on her FB timeline. I told her that the first thing they teach you in Warrior Goddess School is “Don’t Shoot Arrows Straight Up”. She agreed that was probably a bad idea.

Be Yourself (but Safely)

It really is.

50 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 5:10:40pm

re: #46 RealityBasedEbola

A friend of mine posted this on her FB timeline. I told her that the first thing they teach you in Warrior Goddess School is “Don’t Shoot Arrows Straight Up”. She agreed that was probably a bad idea.

Be Yourself (but Safely)

God, I miss Lawn Darts.

51 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:10:46pm

re: #49 b_sharp

It really is.

She probably took a self-inflicted arrow to the knee

52 lostlakehiker  Nov 21, 2014 5:12:49pm

re: #5 compound_Idaho

I’m not convinced these “sources” know anything. I think the grand jury will bring an indictment against Wilson.

Me too.

53 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:12:55pm

re: #46 RealityBasedEbola

A friend of mine posted this on her FB timeline. I told her that the first thing they teach you in Warrior Goddess School is “Don’t Shoot Arrows Straight Up”. She agreed that was probably a bad idea.

Be Yourself (but Safely)

my ability to become a 20 y/o warrior goddess is somewhat limited

54 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:13:17pm

I think I’m going to watch Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman tonight. I feel like something with sub-titles tonight so I have to pay attention to it.

RBS

55 lawhawk  Nov 21, 2014 5:14:30pm

Besides the Ferguson grand jury delaying, it looks like the judge hearing a case on whether New Jersey will allow sports gambling is also dragging his feet. He was supposed to issue his ruling today, but that hasn’t happened either.

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 21, 2014 5:15:57pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

Me too.

The prosecutor has been working day and night to prevent that from happening with the aid and comfort of the Governor and the rest of those who are suborning the judicial system of Missouri.

They’ll come back with insufficient evidence to charge and then they’ll send the troops out to provoke a riot by any means necessary.

57 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:16:06pm

re: #53 dog philosopher

my ability to become a 20 y/o warrior goddess is somewhat limited

You just have to believe in yourself.

58 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 5:16:31pm

re: #5 compound_Idaho

I’m not convinced these “sources” know anything. I think the grand jury will bring an indictment against Wilson.

I don’t know if Chuck C Johnson is claiming any inside source info but I’d bet every dime I had on the opposite of what he says is going to happen happening.

59 lostlakehiker  Nov 21, 2014 5:16:41pm

re: #56 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, time will tell.

60 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:17:44pm

Don’t take life too seriously, because it sure doesn’t take you seriously.

61 BeachDem  Nov 21, 2014 5:18:56pm

Flipping around the tv—O’Reilly has the sweet Babeu on to stir up some serious anti-immigration shit. Ugh.

62 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:19:44pm

re: #54 RealityBasedEbola

I think I’m going to watch Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman tonight. I feel like something with sub-titles tonight so I have to pay attention to it.

RBS

Funny how you feel like different things at different times.

Right now I feel like an old man in an old man suit.

63 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 5:20:04pm

re: #59 lostlakehiker

Well, time will tell.

Just for shits and giggles, if the decision is no-bill, how will you react?

64 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:21:01pm

I left my phone charger plug at work. I swear the world is conspiring to make me as poor as possible.

damn it.

65 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 5:21:39pm

re: #64 #FergusonFireside

I left my phone charger plug at work. I swear the world is conspiring to make me as poor as possible.

damn it.

I lost my Fitbit charger, I think I am going to have some pie.

66 compound_Idaho  Nov 21, 2014 5:21:59pm

re: #46 RealityBasedEbola

When I was a kid, we fired slingshots straight up into the sky. You could see the rock for quite a while, then not.

67 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:22:34pm

re: #65 bill d

I lost my Fitbit charger, I think I am going to have some pie.

Pi is the universal cure.

68 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 5:22:47pm

re: #66 compound_Idaho

When I was a kid, we fired slingshots straight up into the sky. You could see the rock for quite a while, then not.

That’s why you evolved with a redundant eye.

69 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:23:54pm

re: #66 compound_Idaho

When I was a kid, we fired slingshots straight up into the sky. You could see the rock for quite a while, then not.

I tried the shoot the arrow straight up trick.

The result was interesting.

70 compound_Idaho  Nov 21, 2014 5:25:10pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

I bought a set December 31 19??, the night before they became illegal to sell. They are still in the box. Think they are worth anything?

71 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 5:26:08pm

re: #70 compound_Idaho

I bought a set December 31 19??, the night before they became illegal to sell. They are still in the box. Think they are worth anything?

A nasty note from the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

72 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:26:15pm

re: #65 bill d

I lost my Fitbit charger, I think I am going to have some pie.

i charged a man in fitbit, just to have some pie

73 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:28:00pm

Defending His Decision, Obama Presses Republicans to Move on Immigration

i tried pressing republicans, but they’re still wrinkled

74 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:28:04pm

re: #72 dog philosopher

i charged a man in fitbit, just to have some pie

When they take away our Fitbit chargers, only chargers will have pie.

RBS

75 lostlakehiker  Nov 21, 2014 5:28:39pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Just for shits and giggles, if the decision is no-bill, how will you react?

How do I know? I’d want to know why. I’d want to know what the evidence was, one way and the other.

76 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:29:12pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

Defending His Decision, Obama Presses Republicans to Move on Immigration

i tried pressing republicans, but they’re still wrinkled

Not enough irony.

Or too much.

77 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:29:13pm
78 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:30:04pm

re: #76 b_sharp

I’m blank on fitbit and I’m not asking.

updog react.

79 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:30:18pm

re: #76 b_sharp

Not enough irony.

Or too much.

the irony, it burns

80 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:31:15pm

re: #79 dog philosopher

the irony, it burns

Ironically, It is a non-ironic hot topic.

81 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:31:44pm

re: #69 b_sharp

I tried the shoot the arrow straight up trick.

The result was interesting.

I did that too…. there’s that horrible moment of not knowing to go left / right or stay in place…..

RBS

82 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:33:12pm

re: #81 RealityBasedEbola

I did that too…. there’s that horrible moment of not knowing to go left / right or stay in place…..

RBS

I ran under a garage overhang.

I had been standing on damp ground so the possible result was obvious.

83 Decatur Deb  Nov 21, 2014 5:34:02pm

The neat thing about Lawn Darts is that you could use a non-defective product as directed, with adult supervision, and it would still kill you.

84 teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2014 5:34:34pm

Conservatives in the United States, man.

They’re so good at this

85 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 5:35:57pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

Conservatives in the United States, man.

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They’re so good at this

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I think the main question it raises is ‘how stupid are these people?’

86 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:35:59pm

hmmm

87 teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2014 5:36:40pm

re: #86 #FergusonFireside

hmmm

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88 makeitstop  Nov 21, 2014 5:37:26pm

re: #78 #FergusonFireside

I’m blank on fitbit and I’m not asking.

updog react.

A fitness monitor made by Microsoft. My wife’s had one for few years.

I saw an ad the other night, and now they’re making them so they can be worn on the wrist. My wife’s clips on to her clothes.

89 Bubblehead II  Nov 21, 2014 5:37:40pm

re: #86 #FergusonFireside

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90 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 5:37:50pm

re: #86 #FergusonFireside

hmmm

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Might be somebody who hit the wrong button.

91 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:40:39pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

Might be somebody who hit the wrong button.

Prob the 2 stories they need to prepare in advance.

92 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:41:21pm

re: #86 #FergusonFireside

hmmm

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Probably have the boilerplate for all possibilities all pre-set, so that they can just push it when ready.

RBS

93 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 5:41:57pm

re: #92 RealityBasedEbola

Probably have the boilerplate for all possibilities all pre-set, so that they can just push it when ready.

RBS

I imagine all the major papers right now have two stories ready to go the moment they hit “Post.”

94 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:42:23pm

re: #91 #FergusonFireside

Prob the 2 stories they need to prepare in advance.

“Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

95 Bubblehead II  Nov 21, 2014 5:45:18pm

re: #94 dog philosopher

“Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

Eisenhower response on if the D-Day landings failed is that not?

96 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:45:42pm

re: #95 Bubblehead II

Eisenhower response on if the D-Day landings failed is that not?

that’s it

97 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:46:20pm

re: #96 dog philosopher

that’s it

Is it found in Letters of Note?

98 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 5:46:22pm

re: #92 RealityBasedEbola

Probably have the boilerplate for all possibilities all pre-set, so that they can just push it when ready.

RBS

Surprised at Fox, typically their “mistakes” reflect the take they want, although an indictment would be an assured ratings bonanza and a built in story for them for a long time.

99 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 5:47:10pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

Conservatives in the United States, man.

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They’re so good at this

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Yea… I paged that story a bit earlier. littlegreenfootballs.com Damn GOP has got OCD on this… if we look one more time, this time we’ll find something…

RBS

100 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 21, 2014 5:47:23pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

I imagine all the major papers right now have two stories ready to go the moment they hit “Post.”

Bet that they both start with:

“Deaths and injuries follow Wilson verdict…”

“

101 Skip Intro  Nov 21, 2014 5:49:07pm

re: #98 bill d

Fox wins either way. They can go with outrage over the obvious interference/intimidation by the Obama administration or they can go with outrage over how poor officer Wilson was demeaned and put under house arrest for months for just doing his job.

102 Romantic Heretic  Nov 21, 2014 5:49:09pm

re: #60 b_sharp

Don’t take life too seriously, because it sure doesn’t take you seriously.

Don’t take life seriously, son. It ain’t nohow permanent. - Porky Pine.

103 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 5:49:28pm

Plus…the rookie cop has been on the job a year.

Training
Not war gaming

104 dog philosopher  Nov 21, 2014 5:51:58pm

re: #97 #FergusonFireside

Is it found in Letters of Note?

not sure, just googled it up…

105 ObserverArt  Nov 21, 2014 5:52:10pm

Those thinking there will be an indictment handed down made me wonder about something.

Would a cop have a contract with the city/police department with language that if he is found guilty of a major crime while as a cop and on duty, he’d still be eligible for back pay while off under investigation, future retirement, any insurances and any kind of resignation settlement?

If that bit about him being in negotiation to resign is true, would they even be negotiating a settlement if they thought he was going to be indicted and he would be getting no further monies?

106 ipsos  Nov 21, 2014 5:53:38pm

re: #98 bill d

This is not Fox News. This is “Fox 28,” a dinky little local newsroom in Elkhart, Indiana that happens to be affiliated with Fox TV. The distinction is a pretty big one. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here seeing what we want to see, either.

107 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 5:56:20pm

re: #106 ipsos

thanks, I wasn’t paying too much attention and just saw the Fox part.

108 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:00:05pm

OFFS

Heavy-tweetin’ ESPN baseball writer Keith Law has been noticeably silent for the last couple of days. That’s no coincidence—he’s been given a Twitter timeout by ESPN, and we’re told that it’s for loudly and repeatedly defending Charles Darwin from transitional fossil Curt Schilling, his Bristol colleague.

deadspin.com

Don’t dare call a freaking idiot a freaking idiot, no matter how much science is behind you.

109 lostlakehiker  Nov 21, 2014 6:01:54pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

re: #105 ObserverArt

Those thinking there will be an indictment handed down made me wonder about something.

Would a cop have a contract with the city/police department with language that if he is found guilty of a major crime while as a cop and on duty, he’d still be eligible for back pay while off under investigation, future retirement, any insurances and any kind of resignation settlement?

If that bit about him being in negotiation to resign is true, would they even be negotiating a settlement if they thought he was going to be indicted and he would be getting no further monies?

It’s probably a complicated story. What if, for instance, he’s negotiating a resignation in the event he’s not indicted, on the theory that his continued presence on the force would make for bad community relations?

110 Charles Johnson  Nov 21, 2014 6:05:17pm

Chuck C. Johnson went way out there last night after Obama’s speech - pure unhinged ranting. I’ve had him muted for a few days because it gets to be too much, but I was just checking out his timeline from last night, and hoo boy, Stormfront time.

Chuck is bilking the right wing base with this crazy talk, but he has to actually believe it himself too, at least on some level. This is one screwed up person.

I’ll have an article tomorrow. This was an exceptionally crazed outburst.

111 Jenner7  Nov 21, 2014 6:06:24pm
112 jaunte  Nov 21, 2014 6:10:41pm
113 Zamb  Nov 21, 2014 6:15:46pm

re: #112 jaunte

Prediction on their findings. “This raises many more questions, that remain unanswered” and we will never find out what these questions are.

114 Kragar  Nov 21, 2014 6:22:10pm
115 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 21, 2014 6:22:35pm

re: #112 jaunte

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116 b_sharp  Nov 21, 2014 6:22:46pm

re: #114 Kragar

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Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

117 Zamb  Nov 21, 2014 6:23:45pm

re: #114 Kragar

I’m seriously concerned with the number of Ben Carson bumper stickers I’ve seen lately. I mean who the hell is giving these people drivers licences?

118 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:25:37pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m convinced that DC Comics will end up retconning Penguin to look, sound, and move just like the guy in Gotham. And they’ll use his backstory, too. He’s easily the best part of the show.

119 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:26:52pm

re: #117 Zamb

I’m seriously concerned with the number of Ben Carson bumper stickers I’ve seen lately. I mean who the hell is giving these people drivers licences?

120 Randall Gross  Nov 21, 2014 6:27:07pm

I just watched Arrow on DVR, it looks like The Atom is coming up on the CW list.

121 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 6:27:07pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

Those thinking there will be an indictment handed down made me wonder about something.

Would a cop have a contract with the city/police department with language that if he is found guilty of a major crime while as a cop and on duty, he’d still be eligible for back pay while off under investigation, future retirement, any insurances and any kind of resignation settlement?

If that bit about him being in negotiation to resign is true, would they even be negotiating a settlement if they thought he was going to be indicted and he would be getting no further monies?

Yes. The police, once you start researching, are one of our most protected occupations.

122 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 21, 2014 6:27:54pm

re: #118 Lidane

I’m convinced that DC Comics will end up retconning Penguin to look, sound, and move just like the guy in Gotham. And they’ll use his backstory, too. He’s easily the best part of the show.

Oh, my, yes. Much as I love Danny DeVito, this Penguin is just SO GOOD at being SO BAD!!!

123 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 21, 2014 6:28:16pm

Dinner…. Friday night kinda feel like taking it up a level.
Got fresh shrimp, penne pasta, bacon, fresh spinach and butter, olive oil & garlic. I think I can connect these dots in the iron pan. Crisp white wine.

124 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:28:38pm

re: #118 Lidane

I’m convinced that DC Comics will end up retconning Penguin to look, sound, and move just like the guy in Gotham. And they’ll use his backstory, too. He’s easily the best part of the show.

Agreed. Danny DeVito never was it and Burgess Meredith will always be a Penguin but they really needed a 21st century Penguin like they needed a 21st century Joker. (btw, imho, Nicholson’s Joker hasn’t aged well at all and it was the deal at the time.)

125 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:28:53pm

re: #120 Randall Gross

I just watched Arrow on DVR, it looks like The Atom is coming up on the CW list.

The Flash is supposed to introduce Firestorm at some point, too.

126 teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2014 6:29:57pm

re: #124 bill d

(btw, imho, Nicholson’s Joker hasn’t aged well at all and it was the deal at the time.)

Youtube Video

127 ObserverArt  Nov 21, 2014 6:30:01pm

re: #113 Zamb

Prediction on their findings. “This raises many more questions, that remain unanswered” and we will never find out what these questions are.

It’s probably something like this.

Rep. Trey Gowdy: “There are underlying questions about all these questions and we need to get to the bottom of them. I for one would like to know why after all these investigations these questions haven’t been answered the way we think they should. That troubles me and it is my task to find out. So yes, there are still plenty of questions.”

128 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:30:13pm

re: #118 Lidane

I’m convinced that DC Comics will end up retconning Penguin to look, sound, and move just like the guy in Gotham. And they’ll use his backstory, too. He’s easily the best part of the show.

The Riddler character is flailing hard in contrast. Time for him to die and someone assume his identity. :P

129 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 6:30:16pm

re: #106 ipsos

This is not Fox News. This is “Fox 28,” a dinky little local newsroom in Elkhart, Indiana that happens to be affiliated with Fox TV. The distinction is a pretty big one. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here seeing what we want to see, either.

We weren’t. Fox affiliates are the town’s station. We did figure that they posted #2 of their Grand Jury results accidentally.

It was not a blast against Fox news. This time.

130 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 6:31:12pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

It’s probably something like this.

Rep. Trey Gowdy: “There are underlying questions about all these questions and we need to get to the bottom of them. I for one would like to know why after all these investigations these questions haven’t been answered the way we think they should. That troubles me and it is my task to find out. So yes, there are still plenty of questions.”

There will always be “questions.” It’s how they justify continuing to promote the conspiracy theories, by saying that the “questions” weren’t answered to their satisfaction.

131 compound_Idaho  Nov 21, 2014 6:32:23pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

Hanlon’s razor

132 jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2014 6:32:38pm

re: #124 bill d

Agreed. Danny DeVito never was it and Burgess Meredith will always be a Penguin but they really needed a 21st century Penguin like they needed a 21st century Joker. (btw, imho, Nicholson’s Joker hasn’t aged well at all and it was the deal at the time.)

Needing a 21rst century Joker? When exactly did Mark Hamil’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime become anything other than timeless?

133 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 6:33:09pm
134 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:33:15pm

re: #128 bill d

The Riddler character is flailing hard in contrast. Time for him to die and someone assume his identity. :P

That’s because they haven’t done anything with him except make him the annoying CSI geek. He’s been completely wasted.

And I want to punch whoever decided to shoot Harvey Dent where half his face was in the shadows when he talked. There’s laying the groundwork for a character and shoving their future at you the entire time.

135 #FergusonFireside  Nov 21, 2014 6:33:29pm

re: #109 lostlakehiker

It’s probably a complicated story. What if, for instance, he’s negotiating a resignation in the event he’s not indicted, on the theory that his continued presence on the force would make for bad community relations?

Dude, if he’s like any regular person, he is planning his house in Somewhere, bought by the RW racists who gave him a 1/4 million dollars.

136 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:34:22pm

re: #132 jamesfirecat

Needing a 21rst century Joker? When exactly did Mark Hamil’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime become anything other than timeless?

Mark Hamill’s Joker is the gold standard. However, on film, Joker needed an upgrade.

137 Zamb  Nov 21, 2014 6:34:29pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

There will always be “questions.” It’s how they justify continuing to promote the conspiracy theories, by saying that the “questions” weren’t answered to their satisfaction.

It’s not even to their satisfaction that they claim. They just say questions over and over, then wingnuts go around claiming that this president is surrounded by controversy as evidenced by all the questions. I’ve yet to have a conservative bring up any kind of legitimate question. Seriously one on facebook was claiming he’s a dishonest liar because some of his policies are similar to another liberal that no one has ever heard of. Big story there, liberals have similar positions.

138 Kragar  Nov 21, 2014 6:35:05pm

EXCLUSIVE TO KRAGAR WORLD NEWS: The Benghazi report being released!

139 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:35:25pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

It’s probably something like this.

Rep. Trey Gowdy: “There are underlying questions about all these questions and we need to get to the bottom of them. I for one would like to know why after all these investigations these questions haven’t been answered the way we think they should. That troubles me and it is my task to find out. So yes, there are still plenty of questions.”

Gowdy would be better off and have a far bigger audience if he reopened the Kennedy assassination or Roswell investigations instead of the sailed ship BENGHAZI!!.

140 Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2014 6:35:47pm

re: #136 Lidane

Mark Hamill’s Joker is the gold standard. However, on film, Joker needed an upgrade.

Which is what makes it so sad that Ledger died so young. Apparently Nolan’s plan for the third film was the Joker’s trial. Can you imagine how that would have gone down?

141 jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2014 6:35:52pm

re: #136 Lidane

Mark Hamill’s Joker is the gold standard. However, on film, Joker needed an upgrade.

By which you mean live action film of course because let us never forget Mask of Phantasm or even better Return of the Joker… Seriously as good as he was, I would be interested in seeing a version of Dark Knight where Mark Hamil dubbed over Heath Ledger…

142 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:38:33pm

re: #132 jamesfirecat

Needing a 21rst century Joker? When exactly did Mark Hamil’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime become anything other than timeless?

I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear, they needed a 21st century Joker and they sure as hell got one. The other villains of the previous films are in need of a desperate update is what I was trying to convey.

143 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 21, 2014 6:39:20pm

re: #123 Indy GOP Refugee

Dinner…. Friday night kinda feel like taking it up a level.
Got fresh shrimp, penne pasta, bacon, fresh spinach and butter, olive oil & garlic. I think I can connect these dots in the iron pan. Crisp white wine.

Baked breaded shrimp on ramen noodles with canned carrots. Meh, better some meals I make on work nights ;)

144 ObserverArt  Nov 21, 2014 6:39:48pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

There will always be “questions.” It’s how they justify continuing to promote the conspiracy theories, by saying that the “questions” weren’t answered to their satisfaction.

And that is what I was joking about!

From my send up: “these questions haven’t been answered the way we think they should.”

I just wanted it in ‘correct’ political circular language…to hide what they are really doing.

/

145 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 21, 2014 6:40:29pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

It’s probably something like this.

Rep. Trey Gowdy: “There are underlying questions about all these questions and we need to get to the bottom of them. I for one would like to know why after all these investigations these questions haven’t been answered the way we think they should. That troubles me and it is my task to find out. So yes, there are still plenty of questions.”

Trey… there should be a select committee looking into that tie you chose to wear, and there are many unanswered questions about that apparent pelt on your head.

HT to Blind Frog Belly White for the image

RBS

146 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 21, 2014 6:41:34pm

re: #132 jamesfirecat

Needing a 21rst century Joker? When exactly did Mark Hamil’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime become anything other than timeless?

I want the people who did Batman Animated to do a movie of The Killing Joke with Hamil voicing Joker.

147 Lidane  Nov 21, 2014 6:41:46pm

re: #141 jamesfirecat

By which you mean live action film of course because let us never forget Mask of Phantasm or even better Return of the Joker… Seriously as good as he was, I would be interested in seeing a version of Dark Knight where Mark Hamil dubbed over Heath Ledger…

Well yeah. In the DC animated universe, no one will touch Mark Hamill’s Joker. He’s brilliant. It’s like having anyone else as Batman. They’ve had some good actors, but why bother when Kevin Conroy is still alive?

For live action film, however, the Joker needed an upgrade since the Nicholson version didn’t age well. And thank the FSM that Nolan decided to make Bane a real threat instead of wasting him the way Schumacher did.

148 jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2014 6:43:09pm

re: #147 Lidane

Well yeah. In the DC animated universe, no one will touch Mark Hamill’s Joker. He’s brilliant. It’s like having anyone else as Batman. They’ve had some good actors, but why bother when Kevin Conroy is still alive?

For live action film, however, the Joker needed an upgrade since the Nicholson version didn’t age well. And thank the FSM that Nolan decided to make Bane a real threat instead of wasting him the way Schumacher did.

Yes this I can agree with they even found a “realisticish” way to have venom be involved in Bane, though I am surprised they went English rather than Latino for his voice…

149 jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2014 6:46:51pm

re: #142 bill d

I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear, they needed a 21st century Joker and they sure as hell got one. The other villains of the previous films are in need of a desperate update is what I was trying to convey.

Honestly I think the Batman the Animated Series (and anything else springing from that) version of the Joker will end up aging better then the Dark Knight Joker, because Dark Knight is more about a terrorist playing headgames, BTAS has a supervillain who will half poison fish giving them crazy grins so he can try to patent them…

Dark Knight’s Joker will become as dated as the 60s is today in a few decades as we leave the war on terror behind us.

(Not say it wasn’t good it’s just in my opinion Markhamil’s was better, though on the other hand Mark Hamil has had two cartoon series, and four video games at least (Arhkahm + DCU Online) to perfect how to play the role.)

150 lostlakehiker  Nov 21, 2014 6:48:58pm

re: #135 #FergusonFireside

Dude, if he’s like any regular person, he is planning his house in Somewhere, bought by the RW racists who gave him a 1/4 million dollars.

You know that? Free and clear? Because my guess would be that he’s getting help with his legal bills, and it’s not just walking-around money. If he’s indicted, he’ll surely hope to have top-drawer legal representation. That doesn’t come cheap.

151 bill d  Nov 21, 2014 6:54:21pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

Honestly I think the Batman the Animated Series (and anything else springing from that) version of the Joker will end up aging better then the Dark Knight Joker, because Dark Knight is more about a terrorist playing headgames, BTAS has a supervillain who will half poison fish giving them crazy grins so he can try to patent them…

Dark Knight’s Joker will become as dated as the 60s is today in a few decades as we leave the war on terror behind us.

(Not say it wasn’t good it’s just in my opinion Markhamil’s was better, though on the other hand Mark Hamil has had two cartoon series, and four video games at least (Arhkahm + DCU Online) to perfect how to play the role.)

I am sadly claiming ignorance on Hamil’s Joker, I am not familiar with it, sounds like I need to fix that.

152 jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2014 7:03:30pm

re: #151 bill d

I am sadly claiming ignorance on Hamil’s Joker, I am not familiar with it, sounds like I need to fix that.

Here is an example of just what sort of range the man can have with something as simple as his laugh…

Youtube Video

It really is a “treat” for the ear to see how he can alter it to sit a particular type of occasion/situation…

153 BlueSpotinAL  Nov 22, 2014 11:26:25am

re: #94 dog philosopher

“Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

Ike was a great leader.


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