Jump to bottom

242 comments
1 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:21:19pm

We need someone like this to enforce this law:

2 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:22:26pm

Also, for some reason, the log-in area in the top header with my nym and spy and stuff is not showing up in Safari on the Yosemite OS. Any ideas on why that is?

3 Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2014 1:25:13pm

re: #2 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

That’s odd, no problem here. Do you see the search text input?

4 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 1:33:01pm

re: #1 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Lincoln replied to Joseph Hooker after Hooker made some remark about the U.S. needing a dictator to win the win that if Hooker gave him battlefield victories he would risk the dictatorship.

5 EPR-radar  Dec 4, 2014 1:33:18pm

For what it’s worth, all is normal here (Safari on OS X 10.9.4)

6 EPR-radar  Dec 4, 2014 1:34:51pm

re: #4 Feline Fearless Leader

Lincoln replied to Joseph Hooker after Hooker made some remark about the U.S. needing a dictator to win the win that if Hooker gave him battlefield victories he would risk the dictatorship.

It still boggles the mind that McClellan ran against Lincoln in the 1864 presidential race, apparently believing that he had any accomplishments to run on.

7 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 1:38:00pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

It still boggles the mind that McClellan ran against Lincoln in the 1864 presidential race, apparently believing that he had any accomplishments to run on.

Mac believed in himself. And that everyone in the Lincoln Administration was out to tear him down by any means.

8 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:38:08pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is all I’ve got. This started about a week ago.

9 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:39:03pm

re: #8 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing
And the weird thing is, I’m logged in fine and posting. :/

10 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:40:05pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

It still boggles the mind that McClellan ran against Lincoln in the 1864 presidential race, apparently believing that he had any accomplishments to run on.

Hey, look at the past two fields of GOP presidential hopefuls. It’s not that surprising.

11 goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2014 1:42:34pm

Off topic observation. I was at a Hallmark store yesterday and … am I the only one who finds Susan Lordi’s Willow Tree figurines to be incredibly creepy?

I like to think she’s figured out a way of selling white Christian Americans on a way to represent themselves and their families as bland, faceless, conformist cult members. I’m not sure there’s actually this much forethought involved, but the whole thing definitely smacks of a cynical attempt to profit off of a certain mindset that is attracted to terrible, production line art - the sculptural equivalent of Thomas Kincade prints.

12 Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 4, 2014 1:42:35pm

I’m always late to the party, but I nominate this as the best worst Christmas song ever:

Youtube Video

Or maybe worst best.

13 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 1:44:13pm

Had an ad for driving safer with some handy-dandy dash-cam.

Putting a dash cam in my car will result in two things: A catalog of the music I listen to and a count of how many times I say, “Fuckin’ Camry” when I’m driving down the road and one of them cuts me off or changes lanes without signaling or does something else fucked up.

14 Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2014 1:45:09pm

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Are you using Adblock? That’s probably the cause.

15 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 1:46:18pm

re: #13 darthstar

Had an ad for driving safer with some handy-dandy dash-cam.

Putting a dash cam in my car will result in two things: A catalog of the music I listen to and a count of how many times I say, “Fuckin’ Camry” when I’m driving down the road and one of them cuts me off or changes lanes without signaling or does something else fucked up.

Having recording devices about everywhere would be a nightmare for me. I essentially talk to myself all the time. And the driving commentary in particular would be bleeped a lot since I see a lot on the highways around Philadelphia that annoys me.

16 Bubblehead II  Dec 4, 2014 1:47:05pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Off topic observation. I was at a Hallmark store yesterday and … am I the only one who finds Susan Lordi’s Willow Tree figurines to be incredibly creepy?

I like to think she’s figured out a way of selling white Christian Americans on a way to represent themselves and their families as bland, faceless, conformist cult members. I’m not sure there’s actually this much forethought involved, but the whole thing definitely smacks of a cynical attempt to profit off of a certain mindset that is attracted to terrible, production line art - the sculptural equivalent of Thomas Kincade prints.

Looks like something from the twilight zone.

17 iossarian  Dec 4, 2014 1:47:28pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I don’t think they’re that bad in and of themselves. I do have something of an issue with mass-produced art though - I’ve never really got the point of that. I once had a big argument with a painter who sold limited edition prints of his work (not exactly a rare thing for painters to do) on this point.

18 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:49:02pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Off topic observation. I was at a Hallmark store yesterday and … am I the only one who finds Susan Lordi’s Willow Tree figurines to be incredibly creepy?

I like to think she’s figured out a way of selling white Christian Americans on a way to represent themselves and their families as bland, faceless, conformist cult members. I’m not sure there’s actually this much forethought involved, but the whole thing definitely smacks of a cynical attempt to profit off of a certain mindset that is attracted to terrible, production line art - the sculptural equivalent of Thomas Kincade prints.

Da Fuq am I looking at there? Creepy yes.

19 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 1:50:43pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Ah, that’s it. I thought I’d disabled it here. Weird thing is it just started recently. Oh, well. It’s off now.

(sorry, I can’t afford the $80 atm for a subscription).

20 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 1:53:33pm

re: #18 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

Da Fuq am I looking at there? Creepy yes.

Creepier once you’ve performed the ritual binding them to your victim and they take on their features over several day.

The eyes follow you every where.

21 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 1:54:16pm
22 iossarian  Dec 4, 2014 1:55:37pm

re: #21 jaunte

Or, if you get into an altercation with a dog-walker, the cops kill you.

23 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 1:55:49pm

re: #21 jaunte

Or send you to the organ banks for jaywalking.
//

24 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 1:57:06pm

Lots of people claim to be “law-abiding” but they’ve never really been tested.

25 goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2014 2:01:24pm

re: #17 iossarian

I don’t think they’re that bad in and of themselves. I do have something of an issue with mass-produced art though - I’ve never really got the point of that.

She has an MFA and a talent for sculpture, not denying that. My criticism is about the Willow Tree as a gestalt whole, any individual sculpture obviously captures the human form and a certain level of emotion. In the whole however the collection becomes immensely creepy. The mass of faceless, bland, overwhelmingly white and identically dressed figures just becomes cult like. In that world women wear white gowns, men simple pants and white shirts. The large number of angel figurines, and the nativity scenes further emphasize the Christian-ness of the collection, it’s no wonder American white Bible folk eat that shit up, it’s clearly aimed squarely at them as a demographic.

I once had a big argument with a painter who sold limited edition prints of his work (not exactly a rare thing for painters to do) on this point.

Fine art photographers do this too, which used to make a certain kind of sense when printing required dodging and burning by hand and no two prints could be termed exactly alike. When the edition is part of an automatic and mechanical reproduction process however it’s basically just a pretense. I don’t object too much because artists got to make money and artificial scarcity is one of the best ways to jack up the price for a particular work, but it’s still kind of weird.

26 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 2:02:32pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Off topic observation. I was at a Hallmark store yesterday and … am I the only one who finds Susan Lordi’s Willow Tree figurines to be incredibly creepy?

I like to think she’s figured out a way of selling white Christian Americans on a way to represent themselves and their families as bland, faceless, conformist cult members. I’m not sure there’s actually this much forethought involved, but the whole thing definitely smacks of a cynical attempt to profit off of a certain mindset that is attracted to terrible, production line art - the sculptural equivalent of Thomas Kincade prints.

27 Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2014 2:04:45pm

re: #21 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Or if you were just walking down the street with your hands in your pockets.

28 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 2:05:06pm

re: #20 Kragar

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

This is what I thought of immediately upon looking at those things:

from the film “Bruiser” by George Romero. Creepy little movie on Netflix:
imdb.com

29 Amory Blaine  Dec 4, 2014 2:06:33pm

It’s a way to pump out figurines by the millions without regard to detail.

30 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 2:07:14pm

It must be something disturbing to the human psyche. Just off the top of my head I see the faceless (or partially faceless look) used multiple times in visible media. Twilight Zone, Star Trek (“Charlie X” ep - “no laughing!”), Matrix (first film), etc.

31 goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2014 2:10:31pm
Q: Are you planning to make more ethnic pieces? How about pieces for multi-racial families?

A: Summer 2014 marks the introduction of eight family figures that are available with original skin and hair color, or now with darker skin tone and hair color. These figures work well in Family Groupings, and include You and Me, Brother and Sister and all six of the seated boys and girls in The Roses in my Garden collection. New figures can be combined together with others to reflect multi-racial and blended families. In addition, We are Three, a figure of parents with new baby, has darker skin tones and hair color.

Currently, there are several pieces that could be interpreted as ethnically diverse, including Angel of the Spirit, Angel of Grace, With Love, Blessings, and Sunshine. These pieces are a celebration of the diversity in our culture.

Child of my Heart can be interpreted as bi-racial. This piece was inspired by a friend of Susan’s who is very involved in international adoption, so the hair and skin color of the mother and baby are different shades (the child has browner skin), which could imply adoption or racially diverse birth mother and child.

In carving and painting all Willow Tree(r) sculpture, Susan strives for soft contrast and blended lines. She actually uses four skin tones that range from light to dark. Several other angels and figurines have variations of complexions intended to reflect different ethnicities, but she tries to keep the coloration of all pieces very subtle so that they can have universal appeal.

If the people who buy this shit wanted real diversity then there would be real diversity. The figurines are massively, overwhelmingly white for a reason, that’s the target demographic.

You’ll notice that there are absolutely no same sex couples either. Firstly because the Christian Bible Stores that stock this crap would rebel if there were, and second because very few gay people would be caught dead allowing these atrocities in their homes.

32 iossarian  Dec 4, 2014 2:10:32pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Yes, I get your points, and mostly agree, about the homogeneity of the work when taken as a whole. Maybe that’s the effect she’s going for!

33 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:11:22pm

re: #1 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

We need someone like this to enforce this law:

Embedded Image

That iconic photo of Sherman was taken shortly after the assassination of Lincoln—see the mourning band tied on his sleeve.

34 iossarian  Dec 4, 2014 2:11:31pm

Whoa - replied to two posts at once.

re: #24 jaunte

Lots of people claim to be “law-abiding” but they’ve never really been tested.

“Law abiding white people” smoke a lot of pot.

35 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 2:13:00pm
36 Jenner7  Dec 4, 2014 2:14:35pm

re: #35 Kragar

WTF???

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 2:15:40pm

re: #35 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I posted this from PIX11 downstairs, in case anyone missed it:

Judge releases limited details on Eric Garner grand jury deliberations

“limited” is a very generous description.

38 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:16:12pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

If the people who buy this shit wanted real diversity then there would be real diversity. The figurines are massively, overwhelmingly white for a reason, that’s the target demographic.

You’ll notice that there are absolutely no same sex couples either. Firstly because the Christian Bible Stores that stock this crap would rebel if there were, and second because very few gay people would be caught dead allowing these atrocities in their homes.

No eyes—> can’t read (heresy), can’t look at (porn)
No mouth—> can’t speak (blasphemy) or eat (what can’t Christians eat?)
No nose—> #Cantbreathe

39 iossarian  Dec 4, 2014 2:16:15pm

re: #30 Feline Fearless Leader

It must be something disturbing to the human psyche. Just off the top of my head I see the faceless (or partually faceless look) used multiple times in visible media. Twilight Zone, Star Trek (“Charlie X” ep - “no laughing!”), Matrix (first film), etc.

It’s also a biblical illustration trope:

google.com

40 Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2014 2:18:49pm

Nice followers ya got there Chuck. Also, Filner plead guilty to all charges against him.

41 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 2:20:01pm

re: #40 Ace-o-aces

Nice followers ya got there Chuck. Also, Filner plead guilty to all charges against him.

Would that follower blow a gasket if presented with a photo of Sammy Davis, Jr.?
///

42 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:21:52pm

re: #41 Feline Fearless Leader

Would that follower blow a gasket if presented with a photo of Sammy Davis, Jr.?
///

He’d blow a gasket if he saw a photo of my granddaughter, the whitest, blondest, most blue-eyed Aryan-looking baby you ever saw.

43 Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2014 2:22:41pm
44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 2:22:41pm

re: #42 The Vicious Fergushka

He’d blow a gasket if he saw a photo of my granddaughter, the whitest, blondest, most blue-eyed Aryan-looking baby you ever saw.

I don’t think UpChuck has any more gaskets to blow. fwiw

45 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 2:23:32pm

BTW, posting this from downstairs: what do you think the over/under line should be on Obama vetoes over the next two years?

46 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:24:38pm

re: #44 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I don’t think UpChuck has any more gaskets to blow. fwiw

I’m talking about that fuckwad who replied to him that Jews aren’t white.

47 Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2014 2:30:08pm

Oh, no. Where will all the “reasonable” liberals go to undermine the progressive agenda in order to appease conservative Republicans who will hate them anyway?

48 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 2:30:11pm

Jesus on skates!

49 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 2:32:22pm

re: #35 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Once again, with feeling:

50 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 2:34:29pm

Apparently someone is shocked by the fact that people think Rand Paul is full of shit

51 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 2:35:22pm

re: #1 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

We need someone like this to enforce this law:

[Embedded content]

best historical portrait taken 30 seconds after the person got out of bed

52 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 2:37:35pm

re: #51 dog philosopher

best historical portrait taken 30 seconds after the person got out of bed

To be fair, Sherman always looked like that.

53 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:38:16pm

re: #52 Kragar

To be fair, Sherman always looked like that.

Sherman invented Bad Hair Days

54 Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2014 2:38:36pm

Oh, to dream of the day no one says “Even the liberal New Republic” anymore.

55 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 2:38:57pm

A study, reported in the journal Science, has now shown that eels can use their electric organs to remotely control the fish they hunt.

i tried this with my mighty wurlitzer but she just slapped me

56 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 2:39:39pm

re: #53 The Vicious Fergushka

Sherman invented Bad Hair Days

To be fair, Sherman didn’t need good hair ;)

57 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 2:39:45pm

re: #53 The Vicious Fergushka

Sherman invented Bad Hair Days

58 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 2:44:31pm

Hi.

59 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 2:46:24pm
Speaking of bad hair days
60 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:46:46pm
61 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 2:47:16pm

re: #59 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I had that part once.

62 Amory Blaine  Dec 4, 2014 2:48:06pm

re: #58 Varek Raith

Yo. S’up?

63 Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2014 2:49:56pm

re: #62 Amory Blaine

Yo. S’up?

That’s what I love about this blog. The deep insightful commentary.

64 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 2:50:13pm

I’m going to make apple pie now.

With vodka crust.

65 Amory Blaine  Dec 4, 2014 2:50:48pm

Ha! My hair looks like Dr. Gonzo on a good day.

66 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 2:53:33pm
67 Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2014 2:57:53pm

I think this about sums up TNR.

68 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 2:58:27pm

“…The jury awarded Jacques Hughes $125,000 in actual damages and Hill $25,000 and $350,000 to each man in punitive damages. Money from the city’s budget will be used to pay the awards, attorneys said.

[St. Louis Sheriff James] Murphy never apologized for the incident, instead saying he was sorry the two were offended.

69 Whack-A-Mole  Dec 4, 2014 2:59:17pm

re: #66 Kragar

While I think he’ll be a great add to the MCU, I’m saddened by anything that takes him away from Baker Street.

70 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 3:03:44pm
71 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 3:04:32pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

where someone on the right could go and get coherent, adult

the point of view of people who condemn newt gingrich and bob dole for being too left wing

72 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 3:08:18pm

Worst Use Of Dynamite In An Arson Prosecution

Mariah Carey blasted for tree lighting performance

73 Bubblehead II  Dec 4, 2014 3:13:09pm

Flu virus mutations mean your shot may not be worth much this year: CDC

The CDC said in a statement that about 48 percent of virus samples taken between Oct. 1 and Nov. 22 matched a particular strain, known as Influenza A or H3N2, that is not covered in this year’s vaccine.

Well so much for this years shot. At least it was covered by insurance.

74 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 3:15:55pm

re: #73 Bubblehead II

Flu virus mutations mean your shot may not be worth much this year: CDC

The CDC said in a statement that about 48 percent of virus samples taken between Oct. 1 and Nov. 22 matched a particular strain, known as Influenza A or H3N2, that is not covered in this year’s vaccine.

Well so much for this years shot. At least it was covered by insurance.

Makes me glad I’ve put my shot off this year…I wonder if they’ll get out a vaccine that does cover that strain before this season is over.

75 allegro  Dec 4, 2014 3:18:42pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Makes me glad I’ve put my shot off this year…I wonder if they’ll get out a vaccine that does cover that strain before this season is over.

They will not. Just watched a news segment on it. Apparently the available shot will help lessen the symptoms some if infected with the not-covered virus though.

76 Bubblehead II  Dec 4, 2014 3:20:26pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Makes me glad I’ve put my shot off this year…I wonder if they’ll get out a vaccine that does cover that strain before this season is over.

Next year. Flu shots have always been a sort of a gamble. CDC can’t know what strain will be more active from season to season so goes with best science. Some times they get it, some time they don’t.

77 Jack Burton  Dec 4, 2014 3:27:08pm

re: #76 Bubblehead II

Next year. Flu shots have always been a sort of a gamble. CDC can’t know what strain will be more active from season to season so goes with best science. Some times they get it, some time the don’t.

Which is used as ammo by Anti-vaxxers and kookspiracy theorists which, unfortunately, the critical thinking impared and/or apathetic will listen to.

If I had a dime I’ve heard someone claim they got the flu from the shot I could retire.

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 3:30:22pm

re: #75 allegro

They will not. Just watched a news segment on it. Apparently the available shot will help lessen the symptoms some if infected with the not-covered virus though.

thanks obamacare!
////

79 Bubblehead II  Dec 4, 2014 3:33:09pm

re: #77 Jack Burton

Which is used as ammo by Anti-vaxxers and kookspiracy theorists which, unfortunately, the critical thinking impared and/or apathetic will listen to.

If I had a dime I’ve heard someone claim they got the flu from the shot I could retire.

I didn’t have a reaction to this years flu shot. But man did my arm hurt after I got the pneumonia shot. Good thing I don’t have to get another one for 5 yrs.

80 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 3:38:40pm

Flu virus mutations

i we didn’t have all the socialism, the flu virus mutations would be conditioned by market forces and we wouldn’t have this problem

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 3:39:14pm

OT, but happy.

82 ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2014 3:42:14pm

Since there is some mention of Gen. W.T. Sherman…

Seen in Lancaster, Ohio. 30 minutes south of Columbus on Ohio Rt 33 South.

I go by this a few times a year when I am out on a drive to the Hocking Hills area. There are tons of buildings, schools, streets and roads around Ohio named after Sherman.

Sherman Birthplace Marker - Lancaster Ohio
Sherman Statue - Lancaster Ohio
83 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 3:44:24pm
84 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 3:46:00pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

Since there is some mention of Gen. W.T. Sherman…

Seen in Lancaster, Ohio. 30 minutes south of Columbus on Ohio Rt 33 South.

I go by this a few times a year when I am out on a drive to the Hocking Hills area. There are tons of buildings, schools, streets and roads around Ohio named after Sherman.

Image: Sherman Birthplace Marker - Lancaster Ohio[Embedded content]

[may be a fake quote now that I think about it]

85 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 3:47:15pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

Since there is some mention of Gen. W.T. Sherman…

Seen in Lancaster, Ohio. 30 minutes south of Columbus on Ohio Rt 33 South.

I go by this a few times a year when I am out on a drive to the Hocking Hills area. There are tons of buildings, schools, streets and roads around Ohio named after Sherman.

[Embedded content]

Everything you need to know about Sherman’s character in one quote.

“Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk, and now we stand by each other.”

86 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 3:48:40pm
87 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 3:49:01pm

re: #85 Kragar

Everything you need to know about Sherman’s character in one quote.

“Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk, and now we stand by each other.”

It may not be a real quote, it’s in somebody else’s memoirs not Sherman’s

88 Click My Icon To Watch This Short French Film.  Dec 4, 2014 3:52:16pm

re: #86 darthstar

Santa is such a Commie.

89 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 3:52:29pm

Sherman’s letter to Atlanta:

“You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war. The United States does and must assert its authority, wherever it once had power; for, if it relaxes one bit to pressure, it is gone, and I believe that such is the national feeling. This feeling assumes various shapes, but always comes back to that of Union. Once admit the Union, once more acknowledge the authority of the national Government, and, instead of devoting your houses and streets and roads to the dread uses of war, I and this army become at once your protectors and supporters, shielding you from danger, let it come from what quarter it may. I know that a few individuals cannot resist a torrent of error and passion, such as swept the South into rebellion, but you can point out, so that we may know those who desire a government, and those who insist on war and its desolation.

You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war. They are inevitable, and the only way the people of Atlanta can hope once more to live in peace and quiet at home, is to stop the war, which can only be done by admitting that it began in error and is perpetuated in pride.

We don’t want your negroes, or your horses, or your houses, or your hands, or any thing that you have, but we do want and will have a just obedience to the laws of the United States. That we will have, and, if it involves the destruction of your improvements, we cannot help it.”

90 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 3:52:43pm

re: #87 The Vicious Fergushka

It may not be a real quote, it’s in somebody else’s memoirs not Sherman’s

From “Our Great Captains: Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan, and Farragut” by biographer L.P. Brockett, 1866, attributed to Sherman

91 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 3:54:41pm

re: #90 Kragar

From “Our Great Captains: Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan, and Farragut” by biographer L.P. Brockett, 1866, attributed to Sherman

They had fake quotes then too.

92 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 3:59:20pm

re: #91 The Vicious Fergushka

They had fake quote then too.

True, but the guy did have first hand access to the primary sources back at the time. Its not exactly a disreputable source.

93 Click My Icon To Watch This Short French Film.  Dec 4, 2014 4:01:04pm

Some more great Sherman trivia The ‘T’ in his name stands for ‘Tecumseh’ he was named after one of the greatest Americans who ever lived. His father was a BIG fan of Tecumseh as were many people.

94 Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2014 4:01:33pm

re: #52 Kragar

To be fair, Sherman always looked like that.

If you want to start a tonsorial fashion, Ambrose Burnside is your man. If you want to strafe the seedbed of secession, stick with the rumpled guy.

Victory Whiskers
95 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2014 4:05:08pm

re: #92 Kragar

True, but the guy did have first hand access to the primary sources back at the time. Its not exactly a disreputable source.

I have read enough primary Civil War source documents to know that they made shit up then too, there just wasn’t an Internet for it all to spread too fast.

96 allegro  Dec 4, 2014 4:06:15pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

If you want to start a tonsorial fashion, Ambrose Burnside is your man. If you want to strafe the seedbed of secession, stick with the rumpled guy.

[Embedded content]

LOL My husband actually sported that look for a short time. He was pissed because his company wouldn’t allow men to wear earrings (I’d pierced one of his ears while on vacay - he looked very hot with a small hoop, though from then on I found it hard to find a whole pair of earrings cuz he kept stealing one). Rebel that he was, he went for an outrageous look they couldn’t say anything about.

97 Click My Icon To Watch This Short French Film.  Dec 4, 2014 4:07:06pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

LMAO. I can’t even begin to tell you how much pleasure I got from seeing the words ‘tonsorial’ ‘strafe’ and ‘seedbed’ all together.

98 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 4:07:54pm

re: #88 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

Santa is such a Commie.

Santa must be stopped.

99 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 4:13:22pm
100 b.d.  Dec 4, 2014 4:13:32pm

Damn Libtards always asking for a handout. Now, where’s my tax cut?

101 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 4:17:36pm

re: #100 b.d.

Damn Libtards always asking for a handout. Now, where’s my tax cut?

Yeah, pretty much.

102 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 4:18:00pm

Two things to be thankful for this Christmas: neither Sarah Palin nor Rush Limbaugh have a book coming out.

103 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 4:18:54pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

Two things to be thankful for this Christmas: neither Sarah Palin nor Rush Limbaugh have a book coming out.

Yet.

There’s still three weeks until Christmas Day.

104 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:21:23pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

Two things to be thankful for this Christmas: neither Sarah Palin nor Rush Limbaugh have a book coming out.

What, no “Twas The Night Before The War On Christmas”?

105 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 4:21:24pm

re: #103 TedStriker

I don’t think John Fund has enough time to crank out any more this year.

106 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 4:23:29pm

TLC may still broadcast the Palin Family’s New Years Eve Drunken Brawl though. Might try to make it an annual event.

107 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:24:02pm

re: #89 The Vicious Fergushka

Sherman’s letter to Atlanta:

I especially like this part: “…those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.”

I know we had to make nice after 600,000 people died because of those assholes, but it’s a damned shame the Confederacy got to keep their delusions of humanity.

108 Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2014 4:24:45pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

What, no “Twas The Night Before The War On Christmas”?

“Dreaming of an Exclusively White Christmas”.

109 allegro  Dec 4, 2014 4:27:34pm

So who’s watching Brian William’s daughter Allison doing Peter Pan in a half hour?

110 allegro  Dec 4, 2014 4:28:09pm

Wait… that should be PLAYING Peter Pan. LOL

111 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:28:10pm

I can see it now. They’d never get off the first page….

Twas the night before Christmas - Yah, that’s right CHRISTMAS! Not “Holidays”, not “Kwanzaa”, not “Winter Solstice” - CHRISTMAS!!!

112 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 4:28:31pm

most beautiful town in the world

or, a real nice place to raise your lutefisk in

113 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:28:49pm

re: #110 allegro

Wait… that should be PLAYING Peter Pan. LOL

I liked it better the other way. Might change his mind about not wanting to grow up….

114 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 4:32:22pm

Video

115 b.d.  Dec 4, 2014 4:34:30pm

re: #110 allegro

Wait… that should be PLAYING Peter Pan. LOL

I would watch it to watch Walken but the obvious nepotism that got Williams her role in insulting to me and makes me not want her to do well.

So I will watch others not do well instead, Cowboys vs. Bears.

116 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 4:34:33pm

re: #109 allegro

So who’s watching Brian William’s daughter Allison doing Peter Pan in a half hour?

I’ll watch the highlights of Christopher Walken as the pirate. That’s as much as I can handle.

117 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 4:35:27pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

I liked it better the other way. Might change his mind about not wanting to grow up….

I’m sure there’s a rule 34 for that. ;)

118 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2014 4:36:08pm

Why am I just now finding out about the new Terminator film?!?!

Youtube Video

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 4:36:51pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

What, no “Twas The Night Before The War On Christmas”?

That would be Megyn Kelly’s children’s book:
No Nativity Scenes Anywhere!!! And Santa Claus is White, Just Like Babby Jesus!!!11!!

120 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 4:37:28pm

re: #117 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I’m sure there’s a rule 34 for that. ;)

Almost.

121 Lidane  Dec 4, 2014 4:38:50pm
122 darthstar  Dec 4, 2014 4:42:20pm
123 OhNoZombies!  Dec 4, 2014 4:42:26pm

re: #112 dog philosopher

most beautiful town in the world

or, a real nice place to raise your lutefisk in

re: #112 dog philosopher

most beautiful town in the world

or, a real nice place to raise your lutefisk in

Lillihammer on Netflix has been our binge show this week.
It causes ice crystals to form on the edges of our tv though.

124 Shiplord Kirel  Dec 4, 2014 4:42:36pm

Shouldn’t the planned ebola apocalypse have killed about 20 million Americans by now?
Face it, folks, Obama is just not up to this diabolical tyrant job we gave him.

125 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:43:16pm

re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus

Why am I just now finding out about the new Terminator film?!?!

[Embedded content]

Video

So, Terminators age?

126 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 4:43:25pm

re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus

Why am I just now finding out about the new Terminator film?!?!

[Embedded content]

Video

What does it tell us about the film, that the trailer itself barely reaches the “meh” mark?

127 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 4:45:06pm

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What does it tell us about the film, that the trailer itself barely reaches the “meh” mark?

That it will suck ass.

128 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:45:12pm

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What does it tell us about the film, that the trailer itself barely reaches the “meh” mark?

That you can only go back to the well a limited number of times.

BTW, doesn’t this make like the FOURTH John Connor?

129 Lidane  Dec 4, 2014 4:46:30pm

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What does it tell us about the film, that the trailer itself barely reaches the “meh” mark?

That it’s going to suck.

130 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 4:46:59pm

re: #122 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Kill it with fire then nuke it from orbit.

131 ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2014 4:47:28pm

re: #93 blah blah ad hominem mumbo jumbo.

Some more great Sherman trivia The ‘T’ in his name stands for ‘Tecumseh’ he was named after one of the greatest Americans who ever lived. His father was a BIG fan of Tecumseh as were many people.

And that is why there has been this outdoor drama at natural theater on the side of a hill outside Chillicothe, Ohio.

Logo for Tecumseh Drama - Chillicothe, Ohio

On stage - Tecumseh Outdoor Drama - Chillicothe, Ohio
132 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:47:45pm

BTW, I watched “Judgement Day” last weekend, and when that John Connor was speaking, I kept hearing in my mind, “Oh, yeah, Hardison! She’ll scream!”

133 OhNoZombies!  Dec 4, 2014 4:49:30pm

I liked C. Bale.
So he cussed that poor guy out…
Heh heh.

134 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 4:50:33pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

That you can only go back to the well a limited number of times.

BTW, doesn’t this make like the FOURTH John Connor?

The fact that they have thrown the canon out for this makes me not want to see it.

135 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:51:12pm

re: #134 TedStriker

The fact that they have thrown the canon out for this makes me not want to see it.

Threw the Canon out, eh? So you think this will be a … big bore?

136 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 4:51:28pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

And that is why there has been this outdoor drama at natural theater on the side of a hill outside Chillicothe, Ohio.

Logo for Tecumseh Drama - Chillicothe, Ohio

[Embedded content]

Have you ever gone to see it? It is really good (or at least it was back when we went—of course, in retrospect, alcohol may have enhanced the experience.)

137 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 4:52:44pm

re: #134 TedStriker

The fact that they have thrown the canon out for this makes me not want to see it.

Oh?
How bad?

138 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 4:52:45pm

Two new terms enter the language, thanks to Charles PIerce.

The first is Baja Oklahoma, to describe the former state of Texas under the rule of Gregg Abbot.

The second is Cliven Bundynomics,.

Here’s the reason.

Dropping our mufflers and survival suits somewhere in the middle of Alberta, we finally thaw ourselves enough to get to Utah, which wants to grab a whole lot of land that’s owned by you and me and the rest of our fellow citizens. Of course, this is only profitable if Utah gets to keep all the money — every oily nickel — it collects for gouging the heart out of national parks and lands. Otherwise, the whole project goes broke in two years and you wind up with a hole in your state, your state budget, and your tourist economy.

The nearly 800-page report explored a number of scenarios for the state to assume management of public lands, concluding that the only way that the plan would be “profitable” is if the state collects 100 percent of royalties from oil and gas development in the state, which are currently shared equally by the federal and state government. The study states that without the change in royalty allocation, which would add to the national debt and place a burden on U.S. taxpayers, “oil and gas revenues are not sufficient to cover the state’s total land management costs for at least two years after the transfer.” If the state is unable to take U.S. taxpayers’ share of royalties, the state would be forced to look elsewhere for revenue to cover land management costs, including raising taxes and selling off prized lands to private companies.

Yeah, like that last part isn’t the basis for this whole damn scam. I thought I’d never see a more ludicrous public-policy idea than supply-side Reaganomics, but here it is. Cliven Bundynomics.

Soon to be the Next Big Thing in GOPLand all across the country.

esquire.com

139 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 4, 2014 4:56:07pm

re: #134 TedStriker

The fact that they have thrown the canon out for this makes me not want to see it.

We can at least be confident that the movie will have a clever plot, well-written dialogue, compelling characters, and little reliance on heavy handed CG.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

140 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 4:57:19pm

At first I was like, WTF?
But it sounded too oniony, and indeed:

141 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 4:58:26pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

Shouldn’t the planned ebola apocalypse have killed about 20 million Americans by now?
Face it, folks, Obama is just not up to this diabolical tyrant job we gave him.

The real apocalypse is the RWNJ Amnesia plague. That must be what’s in the chemtrails.

142 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 4:59:44pm

re: #139 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We can at least be confident that the movie will have a clever plot, well-written dialogue, compelling characters, and little reliance on heavy handed CG.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Well, it HAS got Emilia Clarke.

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 5:00:15pm

eeek! I have UpChuck twitter cooties…

EEEK!!!!!!

ETA: Whew…it was a close call…

:D

144 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:03:55pm

I am officially over “canon” as a term for comic book superheroes and Star Wars movies.

145 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 5:04:28pm

And Wonkette (Gary Legum) comes up with the perfect comeback to the Dana Loesch/Aqua Buddha bullshit about the cigarette tax being responsible for killing Eric Garner:

Yr Wonkette suspects that if Eric Garner, a poor man trying to hustle a few bucks to feed his kids, had been on that corner selling falafels out of an unlicensed cart or illegal DVDs or knockoff Kate Spade handbags or any one of the thousands of other items people sell on the streets of New York, and the cops had hassled him and he had still gotten as upset as he did over the rousting he was getting for selling loose cigarettes, the same chain of events would have played out, and he would still be dead. But that’s just us.

Read more at wonkette.com

Bonus—also addresses bulbous compost heap Rep. Peter King.

146 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 5:05:48pm

re: #144 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I am officially over “canon” as a term for comic book superheroes and Star Wars movies.

I can overlook minor things.
Major, ‘Screw the established history’ I can not.
/nerdrage

147 #FergusonFireside  Dec 4, 2014 5:06:45pm

People are live tweeting Peter Pan.

Oh America.

148 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:08:09pm

re: #144 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

It would make sense, if not for the fact that with a little tweaking here and there, with retroactive rewriting and with the “let’s put all the rest of the crap into the expanded universe” attitude it no longer does.

149 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:08:57pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

I can overlook minor things.
Major, ‘Screw the established history’ I can not.
/nerdrage

I am reminded of the ad campaign for a highly forgettable horror movie of the early 1970s, which suggested the audience could retain its sanity in the face of all the horror by repeating to itself, “It’s only a movie. It’s only a movie.”

150 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:11:03pm

re: #148 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It would make sense, if not for the fact that with a little tweaking here and there, with retroactive rewriting and with the “let’s put all the rest of crap into the expanded universe” attitude it no longer does.

Hey, it’s time travel. You can fuck up timelines at will!
//

151 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:11:18pm

re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White

was that “Last House on the Left”?

152 ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2014 5:12:21pm

re: #136 BeachDem

Have you ever gone to see it? It is really good (or at least it was back when we went—of course, in retrospect, alcohol may have enhanced the experience.)

No I have not. I have driven by the theater several times taking Rt 159 north out of Chillicothe. I love that whole Chillicothe to Hocking Hills area of Ohio. Especially in the spring and fall. I used to relax by driving that areas very curvy roads. I have checked out many of the Ohio Indian mounds, and of course The Great Serpent Mound and all the attifacts at various Ohio Museums.

I often like to think about what Ohio must have been like when it was all the native Americans…especially back in the Adena era when they lived in that area back in 1000 BC to 250BC or so.

That part of Ohio must have been one huge forest, from the Ohio River all the way up to central Ohio and on to the eastern part of the state. The only open grass lands I could see in this state would have been the central western side along the Indiana border and to about the middle of the state, running up to Toledo.

153 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 5:12:52pm

re: #140 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

You know, just once, I would like to see the person who made the rape threat prosecuted.

Send a message, that if you threaten to rape, you will be punished.

I tend to take crimes against people really damn seriously.

154 De Kolta Chair  Dec 4, 2014 5:13:21pm

Bit o’ show biz trivia — Before performing on stage, Charles Chaplin, Sr., would down six raw eggs in a glass of port, usually chased by more port.

155 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:13:33pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, it’s time travel. You can fuck up timelines at will!
//

Those would technically be new timelines (like in Back to the Future), since one can’t logically change a timeline. Doesn’t count!
//

156 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 4, 2014 5:13:49pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, it’s time travel. You can fuck up timelines at will!
//

I’d love to fuck up George Will’s timeline, “Will, you’re promoted to fry dropper.”

157 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:14:24pm

re: #151 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

was that “Last House on the Left”?

Apparently.

158 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 5:14:32pm

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The Doctor is leaving a hilariously large number of alternate timelines then. Hundreds, if not thousands, if fact.

159 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:14:49pm

Yes, it was!
en.wikipedia.org

Someone then came up with the title The Last House on the Left, along with the infamous “To avoid fainting, keep repeating ‘It’s only a movie’…” advertising campaign. (In actuality, it had been used twice before: first for gore-meister H.G. Lewis’s 1964 splatter film Color Me Blood Red, and then for William Castle’s Strait-Jacket the following year.

160 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:16:23pm

Taking the kids to see “Santa Claus” tonight

Youtube Video

161 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:17:14pm

re: #158 The War TARDIS

The Doctor is leaving a hilariously large number of alternate timelines then. Hundreds, if not thousands, if fact.

It’s like, “we’ve avoided that future with billions of deaths!”. Nuh-uh. They’re still there, “parallel” to you. Thinking otherwise would put the time-traveler’s perspective above all others, would make it more ontologically real than that of all those other billions of people (and zillions of other creatures) and why would that be?

162 De Kolta Chair  Dec 4, 2014 5:17:27pm

re: #160 Kragar

Taking the kids to see “Santa Claus” tonight

[Embedded content]

Video

The Rifftrax version? Color me green!

163 EPR-radar  Dec 4, 2014 5:18:36pm

re: #144 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

I am officially over “canon” as a term for comic book superheroes and Star Wars movies.

For comic books it is totally pointless to worry about ‘canon’. It used to be that DC and Marvel would reboot their universe/major characters every decade or so, but that’s down to every 1-2 years these days.

164 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:18:43pm

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Those would technically be new timelines (like in Back to the Future), since one can’t logically change a timeline. Doesn’t count!
//

Someone once posited that time travel will never be invented because someone from the now-fucked-up future will always come back and stop it happening.

165 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:19:09pm

re: #158 The War TARDIS

The Doctor is leaving a hilariously large number of alternate timelines then. Hundreds, if not thousands, if fact.

Time Lines work differently in Dr Who. Certain factors can be changed with no repercussions and then there are the “fixed points”. Other time lines were supposedly shut off at some point, but were accessible by certain means, like when the went to the universe where Rose’s father was still alive.

166 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:19:26pm

re: #163 EPR-radar

For comic books it is totally pointless to worry about ‘canon’. It used to be that DC and Marvel would reboot their universe/major characters every decade or so, but that’s down to every 1-2 years these days.

“Now he’s GAY! And a black woman!!!”

167 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 5:19:51pm
Time travel - from my first day on the job as captain, I swore that I would never let myself get caught up in one of these God-forsaken paradoxes. The future is the past, the past is the future … it all gives me an headache.

-Captain Janeway

168 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2014 5:22:36pm

re: #167 Varek Raith

-Captain Janeway


A paradox, a paradox, a most amusing parodox!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, a paradox!

169 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:23:23pm

Video

170 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2014 5:23:32pm

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

So, Terminators age?

The organic tissue! ;)

171 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 5:25:46pm

re: #147 #FergusonFireside

People are live tweeting Peter Pan.

Oh America.

I watched the first 20 minutes, but it was too painful. Allison Williams doesn’t have a bad voice, but the fake British accent is rather grating and she doesn’t have much stage presence.

172 Jenner7  Dec 4, 2014 5:26:04pm

re: #160 Kragar

Have you watched Rifftrax with the Twilight series??? It’s hilarious.

173 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:26:09pm

re: #167 Varek Raith

“How do we get out of this? There’s no time.”
“We do. After we get away from this guy we time-travel back and set up the things we need to get him now.”
“Yeah, like what?”
“Like a sandbag.”
“Excellent!”
“Then we’ll get a cage.”
“My friends. I too can play the time game. If you do that, once I have vanquished you, I’ll go back and set up this key. And another gun.”
“Right. Only there’s one thing you didn’t think of. Only the winners can go back and set things up. And that’s gonna be us. We set up the key, and we set up the gun.”
“Excuse me.”
“Your shoelaces are untied.”

174 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 5:27:07pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone once posited that time travel will never be invented because someone from the now-fucked-up future will always come back and stop it happening.

how come we all got stuck in one of the fucked up futures?

175 Varek Raith  Dec 4, 2014 5:27:52pm

BBL.

176 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 5:28:03pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

My very favorite picture of me is from Old Man’s Cave. Used to love to go there in the fall.

177 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 5:28:37pm

re: #169 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

[Embedded content]

Video

Jonathan Pryce as The Master worth the price of admission.

178 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:29:25pm

re: #174 dog philosopher

how come we all got stuck in one of the fucked up futures?

Theodicy would have you believe this is the least fucked up future of all.

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2014 5:29:33pm

re: #153 The War TARDIS

You know, just once, I would like to see the person who made the rape threat prosecuted.

Send a message, that if you threaten to rape, you will be punished.

I tend to take crimes against people really damn seriously.

You know, just once, I’d like to see a rape victim be taken seriously instead of slut shamed.
And see an actual rapist prosecuted.

But maybe that’s just me.

180 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:29:58pm

Any attempt to change the future by traveling to the past is ultimately doomed by the fact that once you changed an event, any reason you would have had to travel back and change things was undone, so you never time traveled to change anything in the first place.

181 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 4, 2014 5:30:21pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Fine art photographers do this too, which used to make a certain kind of sense when printing required dodging and burning by hand and no two prints could be termed exactly alike. When the edition is part of an automatic and mechanical reproduction process however it’s basically just a pretense. I don’t object too much because artists got to make money and artificial scarcity is one of the best ways to jack up the price for a particular work, but it’s still kind of weird.

Uh. No. Not quite.

These provide some background:

theonlinephotographer.typepad.com

theonlinephotographer.typepad.com

This gives a specific example of what goes into a fine art print by a grand master of the art from a digitial capture.

theonlinephotographer.typepad.com

182 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 5:31:21pm

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Theodicy would have you believe this is the least fucked up future of all.

ask mr theodicy for me why there are so many nixons in this one

183 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:31:39pm

re: #169 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

With the inimitable Peter Cook:
Youtube Video

184 OhNoZombies!  Dec 4, 2014 5:32:00pm

re: #171 BeachDem

I watched the first 20 minutes, but it was too painful. Allison Williams doesn’t have a bad voice, but the fake British accent is rather grating and she doesn’t have much stage presence.

I can over look the accent, but on the whole, it’s boring.
Waiting for Christopher Walken.

185 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 5:33:35pm

Theodicy (/θiːˈ┭ɪsi/), in its most common form, is the attempt to answer the question of why a good God permits the manifestation of evil

if i posit an impossibility, why am i surprised if i am left with a paradox?

186 Lidane  Dec 4, 2014 5:35:36pm

re: #171 BeachDem

I watched the first 20 minutes, but it was too painful. Allison Williams doesn’t have a bad voice, but the fake British accent is rather grating and she doesn’t have much stage presence.

You got further than me. I’ve got my iPod in and am just surfing online.

The boyfriend got so bored by Peter Pan he’s watching some weird Pauly Shore documentary.

187 De Kolta Chair  Dec 4, 2014 5:38:23pm

re: #160 Kragar

Taking the kids to see “Santa Claus” tonight

Speaking of Rifftrax, Bill Corbett was riffed by Phil Plait at his Bad Astronomy blog the other day concerning Corbett getting riffed by Stephen Colbert. A cosmic comedic convergence, if you will.

slate.com

188 Belafon  Dec 4, 2014 5:38:28pm

re: #161 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s like, “we’ve avoided that future with billions of deaths!”. Nuh-uh. They’re still there, “parallel” to you. Thinking otherwise would put the time-traveler’s perspective above all others, would make it more ontologically real than that of all those other billions of people (and zillions of other creatures) and why would that be?

“If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes / And other science facts / Then repeat to yourself ‘It’s just a show, / I should really just relax.’”

189 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:38:34pm

re: #186 Lidane

The boyfriend got so bored by Peter Pan he’s watching some weird Pauly Shore documentary.

OMG!

190 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 4, 2014 5:39:33pm

re: #186 Lidane

“Pauly Shore documentary”
There’s just no way that I can construe that as a good thing.

191 b.d.  Dec 4, 2014 5:40:01pm

re: #186 Lidane

You got further than me. I’ve got my iPod in and am just surfing online.

The boyfriend got so bored by Peter Pan he’s watching some weird Pauly Shore documentary.

That’s not a Pauly Shore documentary, that’s Citizen 4!

192 De Kolta Chair  Dec 4, 2014 5:40:40pm

re: #172 Jenner7

Have you watched Rifftrax with the Twilight series??? It’s hilarious.

Holy Jesus in tartar sauce, those are some of the funniest things ever created ever! “Line… line…” The first one was so highlarious that I felt guilty about torrenting RT and started paying them the big bucks for the big yucks.

Actually, for the effort they put into their work, its surprisingly cheap.

193 sagehen  Dec 4, 2014 5:40:55pm

re: #147 #FergusonFireside

People are live tweeting Peter Pan.

Oh America.

I’m watching other stuff on broadcast; but do let me know if Pan is good enough to be worth watching on Hulu tomorrow (or when it reruns on NBC next weekend)

194 Lidane  Dec 4, 2014 5:41:01pm

re: #190 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Pauly Shore documentary”
There’s just no way that I can construe that as a good thing.

It’s not. My earbuds block the audio but it’s basically Pauly Shore touring Wisconsin. Very weird and disturbing.

195 #FergusonFireside  Dec 4, 2014 5:41:15pm

re: #186 Lidane

You got further than me. I’ve got my iPod in and am just surfing online.

The boyfriend got so bored by Peter Pan he’s watching some weird Pauly Shore documentary.

There’s a Pauly Shore documentary? Of course there is. l o l

196 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 5:41:44pm

Putin’s Rambling State of the Nation Speech Unnerves Russia’s Elites

i think obama may be able to take credit for destabilizing the putin

197 Belafon  Dec 4, 2014 5:42:23pm

re: #180 Kragar

Any attempt to change the future by traveling to the past is ultimately doomed by the fact that once you changed an event, any reason you would have had to travel back and change things was undone, so you never time traveled to change anything in the first place.

That’s only true if there’s one timeline. If they branch off then you could affect a different timeline without a paradox.

198 bratwurst  Dec 4, 2014 5:42:25pm

Turns out I hate America.

199 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 4, 2014 5:43:07pm

re: #198 bratwurst

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson
Can we please arrest all the white poseurs bragging about their crimes on Twitter? #CrimingWhileWhite #WhitePrivilege #blacktwitter
Todd Kincannon @Todd__Kincannon
Follow
If you hate @ChuckCJohnson, you hate America.

Turns out I hate America.

Da Fuq?

200 #FergusonFireside  Dec 4, 2014 5:43:16pm

re: #196 dog philosopher

Putin’s Rambling State of the Nation Speech Unnerves Russia’s Elites

i think obama may be able to take credit for destabilizing the putin

Yep, he offered a one time amnesty to all the oligarchs who bailed with their billions to come baaaaaack pleeeeeease.

201 OhNoZombies!  Dec 4, 2014 5:43:36pm

I swear my kids are pretending to like Peter Pan so they can stay up past their bed time.
They don’t know what’s going on at all…

202 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:43:59pm

re: #180 Kragar

Any attempt to change the future by traveling to the past is ultimately doomed by the fact that once you changed an event, any reason you would have had to travel back and change things was undone, so you never time traveled to change anything in the first place.

The very idea of a changing timeline implies an additional timeline, because something can change only in time, so our timeline would have to “live” in some super-timeline. But in such a case the idea of a conscious individuum naturally going forward in time (as we all do) has to be abandoned - there is, then, no real “present” for anyone, all the moments in time are “present” and are subject to change at any (super-)time.

203 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:45:12pm

re: #196 dog philosopher

Putin’s Rambling State of the Nation Speech Unnerves Russia’s Elites

i think obama may be able to take credit for destabilizing the putin

Well, if we believe Putin, it’s the USA that is to blame for everything. So you might as well take credit :D

204 Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2014 5:45:27pm

re: #198 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Turns out I hate America.

Just want to see CCJ and America transformed. Voted for that a couple times.

205 #FergusonFireside  Dec 4, 2014 5:46:43pm

Babies, eh not my thing, but wtf

206 KiTA  Dec 4, 2014 5:48:51pm

What a freaking mess of a week. Everything I’ve touched has turned to snot.

At least I have plans to go get lunch with the nice woman from work tomorrow… but given how this week has gone, I half expect to accidentally insult her mother or set fire to her car or something.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 4, 2014 5:49:49pm

re: #183 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing

All-star bunch on that stage: Cook, Palin, Cleese, Jones, etc.

208 De Kolta Chair  Dec 4, 2014 5:49:50pm

re: #205 #FergusonFireside

Babies, eh not my thing, but wtf

“Needz moar lens flares.” — J. J. Abrams

209 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 5:51:48pm

And of course time travel totally disposes of the idea of “free will” (not that I buy the concept anyway).

210 TedStriker  Dec 4, 2014 5:52:44pm

re: #167 Varek Raith

Time travel - from my first day on the job as captain, I swore that I would never let myself get caught up in one of these God-forsaken paradoxes. The future is the past, the past is the future … it all gives me an headache.
-Captain Janeway

Then, she just says “fuck it” and travels back in time to bring Voyager home sixteen years earlier at the end of the series, in order to save Tuvok and get some payback on the Borg Queen (among other things).

211 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:55:41pm

re: #198 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Turns out I hate America.

212 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 5:56:50pm

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

After the years of persecution the the Muslim Caucasus groups have undergone, I hope they will be able to put up a rational rebellion, and leave.

Not the crap that Basayev did, a rebellion that can win significant supporters in the West.

213 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 5:59:02pm
214 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 5:59:59pm

Jim Wright eviscerates Glenn Beck. This may turn out to be a good Christmas after all.

stonekettle.com

215 BongCrodny  Dec 4, 2014 6:01:08pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone once posited that time travel will never be invented because someone from the now-fucked-up future will always come back and stop it happening.

I liked the rules of time travel as posited by the comic book Planetary. IIRC, it boiled down to since you can only have time travel back to the point when a time machine was invented, you’d have thousands of people at any given time traveling back to the single most important event in human history…the date the time machine was invented.

216 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 6:01:53pm

Hate to say it, but I thought Christopher Walken was terrible in the scene I watched before running screaming from the room. (Vicious Babushka—if you’re here, he’s worse than Russell Crowe in Les Miz.)

I guess I’m done with Peter Pan for tonight (and possible forever!)

217 Kragar  Dec 4, 2014 6:02:30pm

Since I am a newly minted Confederate due to Todd K saying I hate America, I guess my biggest question is who am I supposed to have sex with since I don’t have a sister?

218 BongCrodny  Dec 4, 2014 6:04:10pm

re: #216 BeachDem

Hate to say it, but I thought Christopher Walken was terrible in the scene I watched before running screaming from the room. (Vicious Babushka—if you’re here, he’s worse than Russell Crowe in Les Miz.)

I guess I’m done with Peter Pan for tonight (and possible forever!)

So it’s a Peter Pan pan?

219 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 6:05:01pm

re: #217 Kragar

Since I am a newly minted Confederate due to Todd K saying I hate America, I guess my biggest question is who am I supposed to have sex with since I don’t have a sister?

you have to run off with the naaarest truck driver you kin find

220 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 4, 2014 6:05:14pm

re: #217 Kragar

Since I am a newly minted Confederate due to Todd K saying I hate America, I guess my biggest question is who am I supposed to have sex with since I don’t have a sister?

Cousins

221 jaunte  Dec 4, 2014 6:05:33pm

re: #217 Kragar

222 Lidane  Dec 4, 2014 6:05:43pm

Back to Peter Pan. Oy.

223 Skip Intro  Dec 4, 2014 6:06:48pm

re: #217 Kragar

Since I am a newly minted Confederate due to Todd K saying I hate America, I guess my biggest question is who am I supposed to have sex with since I don’t have a sister?

Livestock.

224 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 6:07:16pm

Warren Buffett Gives Money To Hillary Clinton 2016 Campaign Group, His First-Ever Super PAC Donation

i suppose he expects her to stay bought

225 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 6:08:01pm

re: #218 BongCrodny

It’s gotten Peter Panned

226 EPR-radar  Dec 4, 2014 6:10:29pm

re: #213 Kragar

Best use of a Venn diagram I’ve seen in a long time.

227 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 6:14:58pm

re: #212 The War TARDIS

A “rational” approach was possible under early Dudayev, who had a relatively enlightened outlook on things. Right now it seems that on one side there are Kadyrov’s fascist thugs, on the other - Islamists, like the ones responsible for the latest news items.

228 BeachDem  Dec 4, 2014 6:15:23pm

re: #218 BongCrodny

So it’s a Peter Pan pan?

Yep. And if I had some grass, it could be a Peter Pan Pot Pan.

(I’ll stop now)

229 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 6:15:56pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Cousins

Cousins are perfectly acceptable everywhere.

230 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 6:18:13pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Cousins

im sorry i have to sing the patty duke show theme song here

231 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 6:18:50pm

re: #227 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I’m hoping that maybe, just maybe there are people in the middle exhausted of both sides, willing to fight back.

That whole region in the Caucasus is pretty close to ideal to fight an insurgency, if I am not mistaken.

232 dog philosopher  Dec 4, 2014 6:21:42pm

[Patty] Duke was born in Elmhurst, Queens, New York, the youngest of three children born of Frances (née McMahon), a cashier, and John Brock Duke, a handyman and cab driver.[2][3] Her father was Irish American and her maternal grandmother was German.[3] Her paternal grandparents, James and Katness (O’Hara) Duke immigrated to New York from County Longford, Ireland.

233 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 6:22:36pm

re: #227 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What about Akhmed Zakayev?

234 #FergusonFireside  Dec 4, 2014 6:25:15pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Jim Wright eviscerates Glenn Beck. This may turn out to be a good Christmas after all.

stonekettle.com

Rightly so.

235 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 4, 2014 6:31:19pm

re: #233 The War TARDIS

What about Akhmed Zakayev?

Not only has he been far away all these years, what credibility does he have among the average Chechens who actually live in Chechnya?

236 The War TARDIS  Dec 4, 2014 6:35:55pm

re: #235 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Fair point. He’s the only guy I could think of though.

237 Jenner7  Dec 4, 2014 7:24:41pm

re: #192 De Kolta Chair

So, imagine you’re in a theater and you hear someone say…”line…line”. lol That’s my crazy family.

238 lostlakehiker  Dec 4, 2014 8:30:04pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

She has an MFA and a talent for sculpture, not denying that. My criticism is about the Willow Tree as a gestalt whole, any individual sculpture obviously captures the human form and a certain level of emotion. In the whole however the collection becomes immensely creepy. The mass of faceless, bland, overwhelmingly white and identically dressed figures just becomes cult like. In that world women wear white gowns, men simple pants and white shirts. The large number of angel figurines, and the nativity scenes further emphasize the Christian-ness of the collection, it’s no wonder American white Bible folk eat that shit up, it’s clearly aimed squarely at them as a demographic.

Fine art photographers do this too, which used to make a certain kind of sense when printing required dodging and burning by hand and no two prints could be termed exactly alike. When the edition is part of an automatic and mechanical reproduction process however it’s basically just a pretense. I don’t object too much because artists got to make money and artificial scarcity is one of the best ways to jack up the price for a particular work, but it’s still kind of weird.

Each customer doesn’t buy the whole collection. Or if they did, that would indeed be creepy.

Heck, a bin of pencils from the leading manufacturer is creepy by your standard. All the same, all yellow…

239 lostlakehiker  Dec 4, 2014 8:32:53pm

re: #231 The War TARDIS

I’m hoping that maybe, just maybe there are people in the middle exhausted of both sides, willing to fight back.

That whole region in the Caucasus is pretty close to ideal to fight an insurgency, if I am not mistaken.

Not really. Mountainous terrain isn’t nearly as favorable as warm and wet. With mountains, especially in the temperate zone, there are seasons where housing is essential to survival. Insurgencies need to be able to just skitter away from unequal fights. If you’re housebound, that’s not possible. And while nice guys don’t go around just blowing up the housing stock, nobody has ever accused Putin of being a nice guy.

240 lostlakehiker  Dec 4, 2014 8:37:12pm

re: #212 The War TARDIS

After the years of persecution the the Muslim Caucasus groups have undergone, I hope they will be able to put up a rational rebellion, and leave.

Not the crap that Basayev did, a rebellion that can win significant supporters in the West.

Now that is just unhinged from reality. The West will not support any insurgency in Chechnya, no matter how rational. The geopolitical risks are just too extreme.

Churchill had sense enough not to step in and fight on Finland’s side in 1939, even though, if you put all other considerations to the side and just looked at the merits of Finland v Russia, Finland had a good case.

Russia is a proddy bear. Best not poked. We have enough points of friction with them as it is, and points of friction where the outcome has large scale consequences for us and our friends and allies.

241 Dark_Falcon  Dec 4, 2014 8:43:00pm

Come on upstairs, LLH.

242 goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2014 10:08:30pm

LLH is easily the most pedantic and least worthwhile commenter on this board.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
3 days ago
Views: 152 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1