Chuck C. Johnson Lies Again, Calls Rolling Stone Writer “Plagiarist” Based On… Nothing

Another grotesquely false article
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Oh brother. Do I really have to write another piece about this noxious sociopath?

Yes, it’s Chuck C. Johnson again, dear friends, still attacking Rolling Stone writer Sabrina Erdely like a rabid ankle-biting chihuahua, in another blatantly dishonest and distorted (not to mention horribly written) blog post titled:

MUST SEE VIDEO: #SabrinaRubinErdely Award-Winning College #RollingStone Story Was Fake, Plagiarized - GotNews

It opens with:

Embattled Rolling Stone journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s first ever story for Rolling Stone had serious factually [sic] problems according to her.

There’s a video that goes with this piece of garbage, and once again, there’s nothing in it that backs up Chuck’s wild accusations of fakery and plagiarism. Nothing. Nada. This post is nothing but a sham, start to finish. Obviously, Chuck is a guy with sheer contempt for the intelligence of his target audience.

Things that are wrong, distorted, or dishonest:

  • Erdely talks about a story of hers that won Rolling Stone's College Journalism Competition. It was not a "story for Rolling Stone," it was an entry in a contest.
  • The story was not "faked" at all. Erdely says her story was wrong in many details, and she readily admitted it. She said it was mistaken, not "faked." That's Chuck's word, and it's a distortion.
  • The plagiarism accusation is libelous, and there's absolutely nothing in the video that supports it; Erdely talks about doing research for her article, not "plagiarism." Chuck completely made this up.

For a guy who’s threatening to sue everybody on the Internet who even looks at him cross-eyed, Chuck certainly feels no hesitation about engaging in grossly false defamation himself.

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Chuck C. Johnson’s Latest Attack Piece Is a Vicious Deliberate Lie, and His Own Video Proves It

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425 comments
1 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 2:26:30pm

I can’t help but wonder when RS’s lawyers will have enough and sue him into the ground.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:27:23pm

Hashtags are ruining us.

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:27:53pm

He almost manages to make Dim Jim look halfway intelligent…ALMOST.

4 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:28:44pm

I’m guessing the plagiarism accusation comes from this bit:

“I went to the library and pulled up tons of clips on her, borrowed whatever I could find. I just borrowed whatever facts I could find. It turns out that those facts which were in mainstream publications and magazines were not actually factual. Which completely shocked me. I just assumed those were real and legit but they were not at all.”

Apparently CCJ doesn’t understand the difference between doing research and plagiarism.

5 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:29:45pm

While UpChuck is genuinely a vermin, Erdely’s track record causes me to question Rolling Stone’s credibility. She’s certainly not on Stephen Glass/Jason Blair level, but it’s still a fuckup on their part.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:29:53pm

Also following up on the work Christmas Party thing from downstairs. I generally try to avoid drinking any alcohol with people I work with. Unless we are good buddies outside of work and hang around regularly.

I’ll make the required appearance, have a non-alcoholic drink, get the “hey, how’s it going?” talk out of the way and get out of there ASAP.

Also, why are the most lively and vocal people at the party usually the ones I like the LEAST?

7 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:30:16pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Hashtags are ruining us.

Yeah, love the way he uses hashtags in his articles. Really the mark of professional journalmalism.

8 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 2:30:16pm

He’s just an attention queen.

9 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:30:22pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

I’m guessing the plagiarism accusation comes from this bit:

Apparently CCJ doesn’t understand the difference between doing research and plagiarism.

I’d say that’s a pretty safe bet.

10 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 2:30:27pm
11 Mike Lamb  Dec 11, 2014 2:30:41pm

Even if true, how would this bring down Rolling Stone?

12 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 2:31:29pm

re:
#7

Whatever you put a hashtag next to goes Viral on the Internets.

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13 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 2:31:35pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Also following up on the work Christmas Party thing from downstairs. I generally try to avoid drinking any alcohol with people I work with. Unless we are good buddies outside of work and hang around regularly.

I’ll make the required appearance, have a non-alcoholic drink, get the “hey, how’s it going?” talk out of the way and get out of there ASAP.

Also, why are the most lively and vocal people at the party usually the ones I like the LEAST?

They’re trying too hard…

14 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 2:31:49pm

re: #11 Mike Lamb

Even if true, how would this bring down Rolling Stone?

Twitter voodoo.

15 gwangung  Dec 11, 2014 2:32:34pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

I’m guessing the plagiarism accusation comes from this bit:

Apparently CCJ doesn’t understand the difference between doing research and plagiarism.

Hm. How DO you plagiarize facts?

16 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:32:49pm

re: #11 Mike Lamb

Even if true, how would this bring down Rolling Stone?

Because reasons.

17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 2:33:00pm

Does Chuckles know that hashtags are just a Twitter thing?

18 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 2:33:15pm

re: #15 gwangung

Hm. How DO you plagiarize facts?

Because each fact can only be reported once.

19 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 2:33:40pm

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20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:33:47pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

“I went to the library and pulled up tons of clips on her, borrowed whatever I could find. I just borrowed whatever facts I could find. It turns out that those facts which were in mainstream publications and magazines were not actually factual. Which completely shocked me. I just assumed those were real and legit but they were not at all.”

She’s naive.

21 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 2:34:01pm

re: #11 Mike Lamb

Even if true, how would this bring down Rolling Stone?

I asked the same thing:

22 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:34:18pm

re: #15 gwangung

Hm. How DO you plagiarize facts?

You can’t. Literally, you can’t. There is actual case law that says you can’t be convicted of plagiarizing facts.

23 Mike Lamb  Dec 11, 2014 2:34:26pm

re: #20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

She’s naive.

She’s still a better researcher than Chuckles.

24 makeitstop  Dec 11, 2014 2:34:34pm

Well, he sure shit the floor on this one.

25 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 2:34:39pm

House Democrats to meet on spending bill at 5:30 pm ET closed meeting - @Drew_Hammill, @edhenry
end of alert

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 2:35:09pm

Guess only CCJ’s student award is legitimate…

27 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:35:21pm

re: #20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

She’s naive.

I don’t think anyone is defending her journalistic skills right now.

28 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 2:35:30pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

House Democrats to meet on spending bill at 5:30 pm ET closed meeting - @Drew_Hammill, @edhenry
end of alert

Good guess is Pelosi’s trying a last-ditch effort to drum up support for this dog of a bill.

29 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 2:35:33pm

re: #20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

She’s naive.

How did Chuckles know they were “facts” anyway? He certainly doesn’t deal in them.

30 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 2:39:10pm
31 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:39:16pm

re: #27 Ace-o-aces

I don’t think anyone is defending her journalistic skills right now.

Oh, I didn’t say they were, but damn. I worked in a newspaper at 16, and I knew better than that.

32 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 2:39:23pm

It’s so grotesque what he’s doing here; Erdely was actually discussing what she learned from the experience of making a big mistake in a piece, and Chuck twists it around into accusations of fakery and plagiarism.

33 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:39:49pm

re: #23 Mike Lamb

She’s still a better researcher than Chuckles.

My cats are better researchers that UpChuck.

34 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 2:39:54pm

re: #20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

She was in college.

35 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 2:40:08pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

It’s so grotesque what he’s doing here; Erdely was actually discussing what she learned from the experience of making a big mistake in a piece, and Chuck twists it around into accusations of fakery and plagiarism.

To be fair, Chucky doesn’t understand what she’s talking about because it involves journalism, a concept he’s totally unfamiliar with.

36 AntonSirius  Dec 11, 2014 2:41:09pm

Chuckmate = declaring checkmate when you haven’t even made a legal move yet

37 goddamnedfrank  Dec 11, 2014 2:41:27pm

If there are an infinite number of alternate universes I want to live in the one where Chuck C Johnson grew up to be a super awesome test pilot whose friends call him Launch Hard-On.

38 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 2:42:01pm
39 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:42:01pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

It’s so grotesque what he’s doing here; Erdely was actually discussing what she learned from the experience of making a big mistake in a piece, and Chuck twists it around into accusations of fakery and plagiarism.

If she didn’t attribute quotes, etc., I could see where there could be plagiarism allegations (if I squint real hard), but I honestly don’t want to spend the time digging through the shit pile of goat news to see what he’s saying.

RS’s mistake was in not spending the time to fact-check the UVA story. Her mistakes as a college student are not germaine.

40 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 2:42:05pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

If there are an infinite number of alternate universes I want to live in the one where Chuck C Johnson grew up to be a super awesome test pilot whose friends call him Launch Hard-On.

Fuck, CCJ is like the Red Dwarf version of Arnold Rimmer!

41 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 2:44:11pm

Editor’s note: The $1.1 trillion spending package is still being held by the House Republican leadership. The bill barely survived a procedural vote and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., broke with the White House to blast President Obama and Republicans for backing the bill, The Washington Post reports. Some Democrats are concerned the bill repeals key provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory rules. - Stephanie

washingtonpost.com

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 2:44:45pm

re: #17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Does Chuckles know that hashtags are just a Twitter thing?

He thinks twitter is journalism.

43 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 2:44:58pm
Oh brother. Do I really have to write another piece about this noxious sociopath?

Sociopath or psychopath? I’m leaning towards the latter.

Sociopaths are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed.

Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.
psychologytoday.com

44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 2:47:10pm

re: #43 Dr. Matt

Sociopath or psychopath? I’m leaning towards the latter.

Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.

I can’t see that. Chuckles has alienated a shit-ton of people in media and real life, from what I’ve read.

This, on the other hand:

Sociopaths are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed.

Maybe he’s a new strain of psychosociopath.

45 Aunty Entity Dragon  Dec 11, 2014 2:47:26pm

re: #30 Dr. Matt

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In Greenwald’s defense, US intelligence agencies can be hazardous to our democratic rule of law. (and Greenwald, as always, is a dick)

The Ginger Avenger is just a stalker with a massive narcissistic complex.

46 Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2014 2:49:07pm
47 Aunty Entity Dragon  Dec 11, 2014 2:49:57pm

re: #43 Dr. Matt

Sociopath or psychopath? I’m leaning towards the latter.

I think he has something completely different going on. In any event, he is mentally ill to some degree.

48 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 2:50:19pm

So, it appears that instead of the $3500 campaign contributions corporations can now make directly to a candidate, they could make $350,000 if this Cromnibill goes through.

And Citicorp lobbyists wrote it.

Banks really do want to screw you six ways to Sunday.

49 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 2:53:13pm

re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think he has something completely different going on. In any event, he is mentally ill to some degree.

In reality, I think you’re correct. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he’s on the spectrum.

50 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 2:54:46pm

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

So, it appears that instead of the $3500 campaign contributions corporations can now make directly to a candidate, they could make $350,000 if this Cromnibill goes through.

And Citicorp lobbyists wrote it.

Banks really do want to screw you six ways to Sunday.

Banks wrote the bit that repeals the Dodd-Frank provision barring banks from conducting swaps. In other words, if this bill passes, banks will once again be allowed to use our money to gamble, the same practice that caused the last recession.

51 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:54:48pm

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

It’s really a fucked up situation: Either accept this bullshit laden bill and or we’ll shut down the government again!

52 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 2:55:14pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Banks wrote the bit that repeals the Dodd-Frank provision barring banks from conducting swaps. In other words, if this bill passes, banks will once again be allowed to use our money to gamble, the same practice that caused the last recession.

The definition of insanity…

53 goddamnedfrank  Dec 11, 2014 2:59:33pm

re: #49 Dr. Matt

In reality, I think you’re correct. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he’s on the spectrum.

He’s a fucking grab bag full of Cluster B personality disorders.

54 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 3:01:28pm

Oh lord…

55 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 3:02:04pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Oh lord…

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It involves a 60-day “continuing resolution” to keep the government funded at existing levels, along with an amendment by King to block funds from being used for Obama’s executive actions on immigration. The amendment will be designed in such a way that the Senate can strip it out and send the stopgap bill straight to Obama’s desk for his signature.

56 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 3:03:00pm

And that, right there, is why people who say we should just ignore malignant right wing crackpots like Chuck and Jim Hoft are simply wrong. There’s Fox News, spreading his lies.

57 makeitstop  Dec 11, 2014 3:07:00pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

an amendment by King to block funds from being used for Obama’s executive actions on immigration.

Has no one told these morons that they do not control funding for INS?

Jesus, I’m a borderline numbskull, and even I know that.

58 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 3:07:47pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

And that, right there, is why people who say we should just ignore malignant right wing crackpots like Chuck and Jim Hoft are simply wrong. There’s Fox News, spreading his lies.

“Just asking questions,” right?

59 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 3:09:28pm

Go for it you dumb fucks, shut it down right at Christmastime. I DARE you,

60 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 3:11:45pm

The spending bill needs Democratic votes to pass the House so we’ve nothing to worry about. Right? Right? Anyone?

Bueller?

61 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 3:11:46pm

On “The Five,” they were discussing Chuck’s lie that Erdely “shopped for victims” and extending it even further, assuming this “shopping” took place in her UVA article — when the video clip was 2 years before the article.

She never said she “shopped for victims,” and what she did say had nothing to do with the UVA piece.

62 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 3:13:36pm

re: #40 Kragar

Fuck, CCJ is like the Red Dwarf version of Arnold Rimmer!

He’s Chucky, Chucky, Chucky Johnson,
He’s never been mistaken for Charles Bronson,
He’s not a tough guy, he’s just pondscum,
He’s Chucky, Chucky Johnson!

63 goddamnedfrank  Dec 11, 2014 3:14:59pm

Heh, sweet, I got PADI to research and confirm my Advanced Open Water certification. Lost my card awhile back and I took the class 24 years ago so they had to find the original paper file at the dive shop.

64 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 3:15:10pm

re: #41 Justanotherhuman

Editor’s note: The $1.1 trillion spending package is still being held by the House Republican leadership. The bill barely survived a procedural vote and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., broke with the White House to blast President Obama and Republicans for backing the bill, The Washington Post reports. Some Democrats are concerned the bill repeals key provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory rules. - Stephanie

washingtonpost.com

Mark this week on the calendar, I have agreed with Nancy Pelosi really strongly not just once but twice. Keep Dodd-Frank strong!!!

65 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:15:21pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Banks wrote the bit that repeals the Dodd-Frank provision barring banks from conducting swaps. In other words, if this bill passes, banks will once again be allowed to use our money to gamble, the same practice that caused the last recession.

Yes, that, too, but the campaign contributions provision pretty much eviscerates McCain-Feingold. I got the figures wrong—it goes from $32,400/yr to $324,000/yr. I have to quit taking the word of the TV commentators, even on MSNBC.

See section 1599:

66 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 3:16:09pm
67 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:18:04pm

Report: Democratic source says White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough heading to Capitol Hill to help sell spending bill to caucus - @scottwongDC
see original on twitter.com

68 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 3:18:51pm

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

Report: Democratic source says White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough heading to Capitol Hill to help sell spending bill to caucus - @scottwongDC
see original on twitter.com

Translation: “Stop being obstinate and just pass this fucker!”

69 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 3:20:47pm
70 Jenner7  Dec 11, 2014 3:21:24pm

Sick and tired of Obama and Dems caving, then heading to the TV with a “deer in the head light” expression, while GOP wins the narrative.

Grow some nuts, damn it!

71 Timothy Watson  Dec 11, 2014 3:21:27pm

re: #31 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Oh, I didn’t say they were, but damn. I worked in a newspaper at 16, and I knew better than that.

I’ve always been shocked at the naivete of college students, both when working on my bachelor’s degree and, now, while working on a post-baccalaureate certificate.

I had some hope for my generation, but oh well…

72 Kryptik  Dec 11, 2014 3:21:31pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

The problem with right wing trolls is the fact that, you can’t deal with them like your garden variety trolls. You can’t just ignore them away and deprive them of oxygen, since they’re already fed and sustained by the outward crazy of the right wing nuts already out there. Right wing nuttery is a self-feeding existence and hoping that you can ignore them away just allows them to craft their own little universe that the media ends up picking up on and thinking ‘oh they, this mass of people is thinking this one thing, maybe they’re on to something!’ That combined with the instant credibility the media gives right wing anything and the instant suspicion they treat anything left wing with, and you’re already fighting behind if you choose to ignore the crazies.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 3:23:26pm

re: #69 Kragar

So is this little pile of what UpChuck left behind a vet? Or is he just a typical rightwing chicken hawk who could never understand the idea of something more than self?

74 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:23:41pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

Translation: “Stop being obstinate and just pass this fucker!”

Dems are between a rock and a hard place, and damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

75 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 3:24:03pm

re: #71 Timothy Watson

I’ve always been shocked at the naivete of college students, both when working on my bachelor’s degree and, now, while working on a post-baccalaureate certificate.

I had some hope for my generation, but oh well…

I remember feeling so grown up when I became a college student, but really, viewed through the lens of 40 years more life, college students are just last year’s high school students.

76 compound_Idaho  Dec 11, 2014 3:25:17pm

re: #71 Timothy Watson

I’ve always been shocked at the naivete of college students, both when working on my bachelor’s degree and, now, while working on a post-baccalaureate certificate.

I had some hope for my generation, but oh well…

Why? They have not gotten an education and they have no life experience. I’ve always wondered why we care what they think.

77 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:27:10pm

re: #73 William Barnett-Lewis

So is this little pile of what UpChuck left behind a vet? Or is he just a typical rightwing chicken hawk who could never understand the idea of something more than self?

Just part of the “It’s All About Meeee” generation. : )

78 Timothy Watson  Dec 11, 2014 3:28:42pm

re: #76 compound_Idaho

Why? They have not gotten an education and they have no life experience. I’ve always wondered why we care what they think.

Pundit’s fallacy? I’m not saying I was overflowing with life experience when I was working on bachelor’s but I don’t think I was as naive as some of the people I was around.

79 Timothy Watson  Dec 11, 2014 3:29:24pm

re: #78 Timothy Watson

Mind you, I’ve always been an obnoxious cynic and contrarian.

80 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:29:32pm
81 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 3:31:21pm

re: #76 compound_Idaho

Why? They have not gotten an education and they have no life experience. I’ve always wondered why we care what they think.

Like I said, I worked on a newspaper when I was 16, and followed all the news wires (before the Web), and I thought I knew more than most. I definitely knew there were fuckups in journalism, even back then.

82 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:31:28pm

re: #79 Timothy Watson

Mind you, I’ve always been an obnoxious cynic and contrarian.

My son is even worse: He’s convinced there’s not a lot of difference between Rs and Ds when it comes to money—and getting it from Bigger Money.

83 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 3:33:46pm

And blocked.

84 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 3:34:06pm

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

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Why? Nancy, remember when you stood for your principles a year ago? Do it again. Say “Clean bill or nothing.” We can discuss a budget next year.

85 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:38:38pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

Why? Nancy, remember when you stood for your principles a year ago? Do it again. Say “Clean bill or nothing.” We can discuss a budget next year.

Strip out those “riders” the Rs want so much, at least, although I don’t think there is much of a chance of that unless Reid has something up his sleeve.

You just know there’s a lot of horse trading going on, but who is going to lose except those of us who have no real power? Sometimes, even when you vote, you take a stab in the dark…

86 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:40:20pm
87 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 3:41:08pm

re: #65 Justanotherhuman

Yes, that, too, but the campaign contributions provision pretty much eviscerates McCain-Feingold. I got the figures wrong—it goes from $32,400/yr to $324,000/yr. I have to quit taking the word of the TV commentators, even on MSNBC.

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Boehner needs at least 60 Democratic votes to pass the bill. Hopefully that means that we have nothing to worry about. This bill is laden with ornaments for the GOP Christmas tree and if it passes it will not be the end of take backs and grabs, it will be the beginning.

88 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 3:43:01pm

re: #87 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Boehner needs at least 60 Democratic votes to pass the bill. Hopefully that means that we have nothing to worry about. This bill is laden with ornaments for the GOP Christmas tree and if it passes it will not be the end of take backs and grabs, it will be the beginning.

Hopefully. It’s not a majority R Senate yet.

Strip it, or shut the doors.

89 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 3:49:27pm

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

Hopefully. It’s not a majority R Senate yet.

Strip it, or shut the doors.

90 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 3:50:32pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

THIS.

Close it all if you must but get it done. I’m fine with hardball all day long.

91 jayjaybear  Dec 11, 2014 3:50:35pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

I’m guessing the plagiarism accusation comes from this bit:

Apparently CCJ doesn’t understand the difference between doing research and plagiarism.

That would explain a LOT, actually…

92 BongCrodny  Dec 11, 2014 3:52:03pm

If I had the stomach for it, I’d buy a copy of “Why Coolidge Matters” and start wallowing around in it. Given Chuck’s “liberal” interpretation of plagiarism, I’d bet dollars to donuts you could make the same case about “Coolidge.”

93 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 3:53:20pm

re: #92 BongCrodny

If I had the stomach for it, I’d buy a copy of “Why Coolidge Matters” and start wallowing around in it. Given Chuck’s “liberal” interpretation of plagiarism, I’d bet dollars to donuts you could make the same case about “Coolidge.”

Well, for one, there is a slightly earlier book with the same name… amazon.com

94 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 3:53:25pm

re: #90 Rightwingconspirator

THIS.

Close it all if you must but get it done. I’m fine with hardball all day long.

Would be nice if the Dems would play hardball for once. PBO has nothing to lose by telling the repubs to pack sand over this bill.

95 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 3:54:21pm

Oh Nancy…And a few others
Available to be borrowed no charge….

A pair of big brass ones.

Use as needed

96 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 3:55:06pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

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The last Senate vote on the Keystone XL pipeline does not fill me with hope for for either house of Congress.

97 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 3:56:34pm

Unless I’m missing something and it’s some sort of a well-known meme, it’s hard to see the “why coolidge matters” title as a simple coincidence.

98 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 3:57:29pm

Local methhead makes the big time:

“He made the statement to his passenger ‘to be a man you got to kill somebody.’ That’s when he pulled a gun out from underneath the seat and started shooting,” Grantham said. “When he got finished shooting he said ‘that’s how you kill somebody.’”

dothaneagle.com

99 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 3:58:55pm
100 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:01:12pm

Watching the 1997 remake of “12 Angry Men” on Amazon streaming. Very interesting remake. 12 men, still, although some black men, but still no women. :/ And an all-star cast.

101 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:01:29pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Local methhead makes the big time:

“He made the statement to his passenger ‘to be a man you got to kill somebody.’ That’s when he pulled a gun out from underneath the seat and started shooting,” Grantham said. “When he got finished shooting he said ‘that’s how you kill somebody.’”

dothaneagle.com

And this is how you get sent to prison.

102 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 4:01:34pm

re: #92 BongCrodny

If I had the stomach for it, I’d buy a copy of “Why Coolidge Matters” and start wallowing around in it. Given Chuck’s “liberal” interpretation of plagiarism, I’d bet dollars to donuts you could make the same case about “Coolidge.”

Heh, you don’t have to look very far.

From amazon.com:

Why Coolidge Matters: How Civility in Politics Can Bring a Nation Together - Aug 3, 2010
by National Notary Association

Why Coolidge Matters: Leadership Lessons from America’s Most Underrated President - Mar 12, 2013
by Charles C. Johnson

amazon.com

103 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:04:27pm

re: #100 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

There’s even a Russian remake.

104 ObserverArt  Dec 11, 2014 4:04:41pm

I just got home, flipped on the tube and caught a bit of MSNBC and the one guest (Jimmy Something?) was saying there is a coming together of some Tea Party types and some Dems that are going to band together and kill this bill. It’s like a back door move on Boehner and he is not going to have the votes. And in some ways, they are also taking on the White House. Elizabeth Warren getting some big credit for helping lead the charge.

Good political theater. A mess for the country.

105 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:05:17pm

Just installed Tweetbot app for iPhone. Thanks for the suggestion, Charles.

106 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:07:28pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

Your photo is big hit.

107 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:07:37pm
108 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:08:19pm

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There’s even a Russian remake.

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I’ll have to check that out.

109 skylarkingtomfoolery  Dec 11, 2014 4:08:23pm

re: #102 b.d.

I bravely read the first five pages of the plagiarized version. I don’t think a brilliant editor could have helped much. A weak central thesis of “Coolidge is under-appreciated” combined with a rambling style and a view of history through an ideological lens give us a mess of disorganized thought and constant references to the greatness of Reagan. Reagan honored Coolidge by writing about him in the 1970s! Good lord….

110 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:08:40pm

Perhaps someone should make a jpeg of the two covers with a simple question? You know, just askin’.

111 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 4:10:02pm

re: #101 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And this is how you get sent to prison.

Love how the half-wit hid his spare 9mm under his meth-cooking gear.

112 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:11:22pm

re: #92 BongCrodny

If I had the stomach for it, I’d buy a copy of “Why Coolidge Matters” and start wallowing around in it. Given Chuck’s “liberal” interpretation of plagiarism, I’d bet dollars to donuts you could make the same case about “Coolidge.”

I’d see if I could get an inter-library loan and then kickstarter the research. :D

113 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:11:51pm

re: #111 Decatur Deb

Love how the half-wit hid his spare 9mm under his meth-cooking gear.

“Never get high on your own supply.”

What a fucking dangerous moron.

114 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:13:16pm

Meanwhile Euro is 69.9 roubles. 10 kopeck from another psychological milestone.

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:14:14pm

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

Dems are between a rock and a hard place, and damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

No, they should stand with most of Americans who aren’t hedge fund and Wall Street bankers.
Good grief, we regular taxpayers don’t get any real returns on regular savings, most of us have to pay income tax on our pitiful savings interest and what non-tax-exempt dividends we may have.
The entire CitiGroup-written rider needs to be cut completely out of the bill.

116 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:14:24pm

I want to puke:

117 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 4:15:53pm

re: #105 Dr. Matt

Just installed Tweetbot app for iPhone. Thanks for the suggestion, Charles.

I like Tweetbot on the iPhone - that’s the Twitter client I use most of the time, although I’m starting to use the official Twitter app a bit more lately.

118 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:16:05pm

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

119 ObserverArt  Dec 11, 2014 4:17:01pm

re: #106 Dr. Matt

Your photo is big hit.

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Cool. Maybe some day I can do a Google image search for Chuck Johnson and see that come up!

120 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 4:17:29pm

On my desktop Mac I use TweetDeck, which can also show tweets from people who blocked you, in a search column. I hope Twitter doesn’t remove this ability from TweetDeck.

121 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:18:22pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

On my desktop Mac I use TweetDeck, which can also show tweets from people who blocked you, in a search column. I hope Twitter doesn’t remove this ability from TweetDeck.

Given twitter’s track record of being assholes to outside developers, I wouldn’t count on that.

122 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:18:26pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

On my desktop Mac I use TweetDeck, which can also show tweets from people who blocked you, in a search column. I hope Twitter doesn’t remove this ability from TweetDeck.

Twitter will do whatever earns them bucks.

123 Lancelot Link  Dec 11, 2014 4:19:11pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Lucky for him he didn’t do anything really bad, like shoplift or sell loose cigarettes.

124 Snarknado!  Dec 11, 2014 4:19:43pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

East Bay — lots of rain, flash flood warnings (now mostly expiring), no slides that I’ve heard of. Yet.

125 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 4:19:50pm

re: #123 Lancelot Link

Or reach for a wallet.

126 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:19:52pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

Or in cars…

127 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:20:11pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

On my desktop Mac I use TweetDeck, which can also show tweets from people who blocked you, in a search column. I hope Twitter doesn’t remove this ability from TweetDeck.

Ditto. I’m using TweetDeck now on my PC now for the same reason.

128 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 4:20:13pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

I like Tweetbot on the iPhone - that’s the Twitter client I use most of the time, although I’m starting to use the official Twitter app a bit more lately.

What’s really cool on the phone is the little relay that goes “tchick, tchik, tchik, tchik” as the dial returns. That and the coil-y cord.

129 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 4:21:18pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

For us, the big band of high wind and rain moved through at about 8:30-9 AM. Rained like hell for about 1/2 hour, then reverted to a steady rain all day. Power outages in a number of places, but none where I am.

130 makeitstop  Dec 11, 2014 4:21:30pm

re: #110 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Perhaps someone should make a jpeg of the two covers with a simple question? You know, just askin’.

Ask and ye shall git… (with a bonus borrowed quote!)

131 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:22:28pm

Very sad and tragic story.

132 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 4:23:20pm

re: #130 makeitstop

cool. On my screen the quote prints over the “Tweet to your…” message.
(FF in Ubuntu.)

133 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 4:23:38pm

re: #131 Dr. Matt

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Very sad and tragic story.

And another person who was a law-abiding gun owner, right up till she wasn’t.

134 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:23:38pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

And then we have this from Reuters:

The Obama administration made a last-ditch attempt on Thursday to drum up Democratic support to salvage a faltering $1.1 trillion spending bill, just hours ahead of a midnight U.S. government shutdown deadline.

Administration officials from President Barack Obama down to staff at the Department of Education were phoning Democrats in the House of Representatives to ask them to set aside objections to a financial provision and pass the measure to fund most of the government through September.

“We believe that this compromise proposal merits bipartisan support on Capitol Hill, and hopefully will arrive on the president’s desk in the next few days. And if it does, he will sign it,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters.

WTF? That “financial provision” would enable the TBTF banks to gamble with FDIC-insured funds. These are the same banks that were fuck-stupid enough to invest in pig in a poke bundles of questionable mortgages so by all means set aside your objections so that the next bailout is automatic.

135 makeitstop  Dec 11, 2014 4:24:00pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

cool. On my screen the quote prints over the “Tweet to your…” message.
(FF in Ubuntu.)

I removed the caption. Refresh and you should be good.

136 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 4:24:21pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Ask and ye shall git… (with a bonus borrowed quote!)

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Plagiarism! Both covers have the same title, and that same guy on both!!!

EDIT: Forgot the //////. I presume nobody took me seriously.

137 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 4:24:41pm
138 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:25:54pm

OK, I *had* to google search video of UpChuck. Here he is at an Eagle Forum presentation about Coolidge. Apparently, he wrote about him because he was a redhead. And it’s spun off of Amity Schlaes.

139 Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2014 4:26:17pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

And another person who was a law-abiding gun owner, right up till she wasn’t.

Have you no regard for a widow’s grief?

140 Snarknado!  Dec 11, 2014 4:28:40pm

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

Or in cars…

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And if you look at the comments, someone has decided climate change isn’t happening because the CA drought was caused by it. Too many fallacies for one tweet.

141 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 4:31:06pm

Just to give you some idea what I mean by “the big band of high wind and rain moved through at about 8:30-9 AM”, check out the graph.

See the green butte? That’s 8:30 - 9:00
142 makeitstop  Dec 11, 2014 4:31:27pm

Alternate caption…

143 Skip Intro  Dec 11, 2014 4:32:00pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Central Coast. Lots of wind, no rain, partly cloudy.

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:33:02pm

re: #130 makeitstop

ran out of characters to give you a h/t but here it is:

145 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 4:33:21pm

Open-carry fanatic in Texas kills husband and step-daughter.
wfaa.com

And Dr. Matt ^^^ beat me to it, lol.

146 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 4:34:05pm
147 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:36:14pm

re: #143 Skip Intro

Central Coast. Lots of wind, no rain, partly cloudy.

I lived in Morro Bay for a year and a half. Of all of the places I’ve lived, the Central Coast was my favorite going away. Unfortunately for me, the choices at the time were to get a shit job in SLO or become one of the town characters.

148 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 4:36:22pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Charles needs to promote this, stat.

149 dog philosopher  Dec 11, 2014 4:36:34pm

the president who elevated doing nothing to a philosophical doctrine?

150 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:37:40pm
151 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:37:42pm

So I hear Chuck pooped on the floor of the Stark building. Is he with H.Y.D.R.A. or something?

152 Bear  Dec 11, 2014 4:37:58pm

Re 118
Plumas County Elevation 3500 Bit of snow started abt hour ago. Rain all day. Chains or 4x4 with snow tires required on 80, 70, 44, 36.

153 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 4:38:28pm

re: #151 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

So I hear Chuck pooped on the floor of the Stark building. Is he with H.Y.D.R.A. or something?

HAIL GGGGGRRRRRRRRR HYDRA!

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:44:48pm

OK, did another version of the tweet:

155 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 4:45:03pm

BTW, called it

Embattled Rolling Stone journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s first ever story for Rolling Stone had serious factually problems according to her.

Considering this entire sentence is a mess, I’ll take that as a win

156 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 4:45:58pm

re: #146 Kragar

A “review” probably written by the poopster himself:

Mr. Johnson tackles his subject with the skills of someone all too rare today — an investigative journalist. He is doing the job most “historians” won’t do. In a field of superb thinkers and diligent expositors of Coolidge, his work stands out as the best in recent years.

157 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 4:46:59pm

Hey everyone…had the hardest time loading LGF in Opera today…finally rebooted my machine and now I’m here…except I’ve gotta run. Laterz.

158 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:47:29pm

re: #156 Kid A

A “review” probably written by the poopster himself:

Amazing, he sucks his own dick.

159 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:48:09pm

re: #145 Kid A

Open-carry fanatic in Texas kills husband and step-daughter.
wfaa.com

And Dr. Matt ^^^ beat me to it, lol.

Why do women think carrying a gun gives them balls?

Men, too.

160 Skip Intro  Dec 11, 2014 4:48:21pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

And another person who was a law-abiding gun owner, right up till she wasn’t.

161 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:48:54pm

re: #156 Kid A

A “review” probably written by the poopster himself:

I wondered if those “glowing” reviews were written by Chuckles himself…

162 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:49:26pm

re: #157 darthstar

Hey everyone…had the hardest time loading LGF in Opera today…finally rebooted my machine and now I’m here…except I’ve gotta run. Laterz.

Glad you survived Stormzilla!

163 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:49:50pm

re: #156 Kid A

A “review” probably written by the poopster himself:

I’m surprised that someone who looks so much like a bag of doorknobs can do the contortions necessary to give himself a tongue bath.

164 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 4:50:15pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

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I’m guessing that’s the son she killed next to her.

165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:51:02pm

can’t. stop. laughing….

166 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 4:51:03pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Glad you survived Stormzilla!

It was nothing. Had some fun taking pictures of it and went and finally bought myself a decent rain slicker.

167 calochortus  Dec 11, 2014 4:51:58pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

On the Peninsula: Just got back from jury duty summons (they didn’t need me.) Steady heavy rains. 4.2” of rain in less than 12 hours here in the lower foothills of the Santa Cruz Mts. We generally get a bit more rain than the flat-lands to our east.
Storm seems stalled and not moving down the Central Coast as originally predicted.
Flooding in low lying areas. I haven’t heard of any significant landslides, but then I’ve been locked up in the Hall of Justice all afternoon. If this does hit your area, yeah, you don’t want to be under a bare slope.

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:53:02pm

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!

169 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 4:53:10pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

can’t. stop. laughing….

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170 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:54:33pm
171 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 4:55:46pm

If you read the wikipedia article about the UVA rape it seems like Chucky has been doing some favourable editing.

172 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 4:56:20pm

I don’t want CCJ telling me ANYTHING about “higher IQ and education”.

173 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 4:57:27pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

“disruptive startups ideas”

His prose begs the question, “Who wrote that book for him?”

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 4:57:43pm
175 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 4:58:01pm

The dude is fucking mental

176 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:58:12pm

It may not be a grin, but it’s shit-eating alright. And he seems to be enjoying the taste.

Image: aKkKBDua.jpeg

177 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 4:58:46pm

re: #173 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“disruptive startups ideas”

His prose begs the question, “Who wrote that book for him?”

Ayers.

178 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 4:58:48pm

re: #170 Dr. Matt

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It should also be: “…several start-up ideas…”, not “…several start ups ideas”… Spell check wants a hyphen in there . : )

Google:

start-up
noun
the action or process of setting something in motion.
“the start-up of marketing in Europe”
a newly established business.
plural noun: start-ups; plural noun: startups
“problems facing start-ups and small firms in rural areas”

179 goddamnedfrank  Dec 11, 2014 4:59:13pm

re: #158 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Amazing, he sucks his own dick.

Amazingly limber for a man with that many chins.

180 stpaulbear  Dec 11, 2014 4:59:24pm

re: #95 Rightwingconspirator

Oh Nancy…And a few others
Available to be borrowed no charge….

A pair of big brass ones.

Use as needed

I got an email from Betty McCollum this evening saying she thinks the bill sucks and is going to vote against it. I called her office right away to say I totally approved of her ‘no’ vote. I hope it goes down.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:01:14pm

Love that CCJ thought blocking a bunch of folks would shut us up.
He is so clueless.

bwahahahaaa!!!

182 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:01:16pm

re: #180 stpaulbear

I got an email from Betty McCollum this evening saying she thinks the bill sucks and is going to vote against it. I called her office right away to say I totally approved of her ‘no’ vote. I hope it goes down.

Well…

Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., tells reporters that White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough did not sway votes on spending bill - @smahaskey
see original on twitter.com

183 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:07:02pm

After reading about a “father” in North Texas killing his 4 yr old by putting him in a front loading washer and turning it on, and now this, I have to ask: What the hell is going on in this country?

Authorities: Woman dies after she and baby were shot in Ahwatukee, Phoenix; baby shot in leg - @azcentral
read more on azcentral.com

They were found on a walking path after someone heard the baby crying.

184 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 5:07:27pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

Sounds like award-winning legislating right there.
//

185 stpaulbear  Dec 11, 2014 5:08:39pm

re: #182 Justanotherhuman

Well…

Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., tells reporters that White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough did not sway votes on spending bill - @smahaskey
see original on twitter.com

I can’t understand for the life of me why Obama is in favor of it. I keep trying to think of some genius positive outcome that could come out of this and it just doesn’t compute. I’m usually an Obot but what the hell?

186 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 5:09:09pm

re: #175 Dr. Matt

The dude is fucking mental

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I don’t talk about my charitable work except for this bit I’m going to talk about now, and did you know all your mothers like me more than you? Jealous haters.

/

187 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:09:26pm
188 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 5:10:12pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

He might actually think it’s the only chance of getting a budget through with this crowd.

189 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 5:10:31pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

I can’t understand for the life of me why Obama is in favor of it. I keep trying to think of some genius positive outcome that could come out of this and it just doesn’t compute. I’m usually an Obot but what the hell?

I can understand him not wanting to see people get f*cked right before Christmas but that is not any reason to wave a white flag

190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 5:10:46pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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As if that’s something to be proud of…..

191 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:11:44pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

I can’t understand for the life of me why Obama is in favor of it. I keep trying to think of some genius positive outcome that could come out of this and it just doesn’t compute. I’m usually an Obot but what the hell?

I’m thinking perhaps he thinks a bill next spring would be worse, with an R majority in both houses? This would be effective through 9/15, but why would he sell out on Boehners Bank Bailout and the campaign contributions if they can’t be tossesd out (among others)?

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:12:09pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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PowerTalk 96.7: Fresno’s Next Generation of News Talk!

ginger furbaby generation…

193 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 5:12:25pm

re: #175 Dr. Matt

The Charles C. Johnson Center for Haitians Who Can’t Talk So Good

194 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:12:39pm

Listen to this preening egomaniac here.

iheart.com

195 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 5:12:42pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

can’t. stop. laughing….

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I have to go out, but you should all have this ready:

196 stpaulbear  Dec 11, 2014 5:12:46pm

re: #188 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re: #189 b.d.

Can he neutralize anything with signing statements?

197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:13:42pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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livelink if anyone feels a need to self-scourge.
(it’s a donotlink link)

198 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 11, 2014 5:13:52pm

re: #146 Kragar

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How in the world did archmoron blogger Chuck c Johnson get a book published?

199 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:13:54pm

Question….Seem to have missed bad seed Liz Cheney making a nasty comment on the torture report.

Not the norm. Maybe she deferred to Dad this time.

200 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 5:13:55pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

ginger furbaby generation…

PowerTalk 96.7
@PowerTalk967
Fresno’s Next Generation of News Talk

That guy looks older than Rush, not sure how it is the next generation or how it is different than any other crazed AM hate radio?

201 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:13:59pm

re: #195 Kragar

And Chuckles will never have a movie made about him, either…

202 stpaulbear  Dec 11, 2014 5:14:11pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Listen to this preening egomaniac here.

iheart.com

no

203 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 5:14:38pm

re: #198 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How in the world did archmoron blogger Chuck c Johnson get a book published?

Blowjobs.

204 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 5:14:54pm

And I’m off for a bit

205 Skip Intro  Dec 11, 2014 5:14:57pm

re: #202 stpaulbear

no.

Hell no.

206 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 5:15:01pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Listen to this preening egomaniac here.

iheart.com

Grumpy says no.

207 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:15:11pm

I’m only listening in case somebody calls in to ask about his penchant for floor shitting.

208 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 5:15:25pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Listen to this preening egomaniac here.

iheart.com

Does Chuck have a glass shattering annoying high voice?

209 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 5:15:52pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

I’m only listening in case somebody calls in to ask about his penchant for floor shitting.

So you’re on hold then…

//

210 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:16:13pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

I’m only listening in case somebody calls in to ask about his penchant for floor shitting.

Where’s Shiplord when you need him?!!

211 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:16:28pm

Get your Stoolidge t-shirt here!
skreened.com

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:17:26pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

I’m only listening in case somebody calls in to ask about his penchant for floor shitting.

I’m waiting to hear why he hates Fresno…

213 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:18:37pm

He is a preening fucking douchebag. “I’m particularly good at it.” My ass.

214 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:19:46pm

YES! Someone just asked him about the shitting!

215 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:20:39pm

Apparently that wasn’t the first call that asked him about it either, LOL.

216 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:21:04pm

Chuckles publisher: encounterbooks.com

A “non-profit”.

Founding Publisher:

“The founding editor and currently a consultant to Encounter Books is Peter Collier. He has worked as an author and editor for the last thirty years. During that time, he has written novels, short stories and screenplays, along with best selling biographies. Referred to in the New York Times as “America’s premier biographer of dynastic tragedy,” Collier is best known for The Rockefellers: An American Dynasty; The Kennedys: An American Dream; The Fords: An American Epic; and Destructive Generation (all with David Horowitz). He is also the author of The Fondas: A Hollywood Dynasty and The Roosevelts: An American Saga. Recent books include Medal of Honor: Portraits of Valor Beyond the Call of Duty, with photographs by Nick Del Calzo, and The Anti-Chomsky Reader, co-edited with David Horowitz.”

David Horowitz says everything about this “conservative” publishing outfit.

217 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 11, 2014 5:21:17pm

re: #214 Kid A

What did he say?

218 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:21:56pm

re: #217 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Someone called in and asked him if it was true that he shit on floors.

219 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:22:32pm

re: #218 Kid A

Someone called in and asked him if it was true that he shit on floors.

Did they say “take a dump?”

lol

220 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:25:27pm

re: #219 #FergusonFireside

Did they say “take a dump?”

lol

Well, we at least know for sure that Chuckles’ mind is a dump.

221 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:26:20pm

Oh man. Now the host is asking him about his theory that Obama is gay.

222 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:26:50pm

Stay safe, everyone.

1 minor injury reported after partial roof collapse at Safeway store in East San Jose; store evacuated - @nbcbayarea
read more on nbcbayarea.com

10m
Lighthouse in Newport, Ore., records wind gusts of more than 80 mph - @BLMOregon
end of alert

223 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:26:51pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

Oh man. Now the host is asking him about his theory that Obama is gay.

C’est Fresno.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:26:51pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

Oh man. Now the host is asking him about his theory that Obama is gay.

but of course…

225 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 5:27:46pm

re: #102 b.d.

Heh, you don’t have to look very far.

From amazon.com:

amazon.com

Chuck the Pig-Fucker couldn’t even be original in naming his magnum opus…what a jagoff.

226 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:27:54pm

“Do I think Obama is gay? I don’t know.”

Oh, shut the fuck up.

227 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 5:27:56pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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The C is for Copyright infringement.

228 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:28:03pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

but of course…

Waiting for him to say Obama is on the “down-low”.

229 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:28:39pm

230 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:28:44pm

This is like listening to a radio show from a twisted alternate universe.

231 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:28:53pm

re: #227 darthstar

The C is for Copyright infringement.

I’ll say “What is Cancer” for the win, Alex.

232 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:29:04pm

Now he’s quoting scripture.

233 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 5:29:48pm
234 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:29:53pm

“I’m really good at debunking frauds.”

LOL

235 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:30:59pm

“I believe in the first amendment, and I also believe in the second.”

236 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 5:31:29pm
237 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:32:00pm

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

Stay safe, everyone.

1 minor injury reported after partial roof collapse at Safeway store in East San Jose; store evacuated - @nbcbayarea
read more on nbcbayarea.com

10m
Lighthouse in Newport, Ore., records wind gusts of more than 80 mph - @BLMOregon
end of alert

My meeting with the storm will occur tomorrow. We will see. There seems to be a bit of a panic already. They cancelled the Padre’s Holiday Wonderland at Petco Park.

Not sure if it’s going to be rough by the time it makes it here, or just another Southern California freak out shitshow.

fox5sandiego.com

238 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:32:25pm

re: #235 Kid A

“I believe in the first amendment, and I also believe in the second.”

And I’ll shoot you if you don’t let me plagiarize.

239 lawhawk  Dec 11, 2014 5:33:01pm

re: #175 Dr. Matt

The dude is fucking mental

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Next thing is that he’s going to claim that some of his best friends are queers.

240 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:33:03pm

You do NOT get 1.5 million hits on Goat News, loser.

241 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:33:35pm

re: #239 lawhawk

Next thing is that he’s going to claim that some of his best friends are queers.

“Listen, my father-in-law is Jewish.”

242 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 5:34:43pm

Chris Hayes just now: “Torture happens around the world, right?”
His guest: “Well…that’s not exactly how we should look at this…” And he brought up the “rectal feeding” - And we’re not talking about forcing kids to eat their mashed potatoes - … This story makes me sick.

243 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 5:34:53pm

Has he mentioned his hot Asian wife, who makes him home-cooked meals?

244 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:35:02pm

Mandatory evacuations ordered for the Colby Fire burn zone near Glendora, Calif., as storms threaten floods - @CBSLA
see original on twitter.com

245 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 5:35:42pm

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

Stay safe, everyone.

It was a little breezy on the ridges today…

246 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:36:54pm

re: #245 darthstar

It was a little breezy on the ridges today…

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wow

247 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:37:35pm

Levity

248 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:38:04pm

re: #245 darthstar

It was a little breezy on the ridges today…

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Wowser, hurricane force winds.

249 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:39:16pm

ANOTHER ONE!!!!

250 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 5:39:47pm

Yes, another floor-shitting call.

251 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 5:39:52pm

Someone got a link to CCJ interview? Can’t seem to make the one Charles provided work.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:40:09pm

hahahahahaha (stop laughing, take a breath) bwahahaaaa…
the comments:

253 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:40:10pm

L O L

254 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:40:16pm

Chuckles also considers himself a master practitioner of diversity…

255 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 5:41:24pm
256 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:41:43pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaha (stop laughing, take a breath) bwahahaaaa…
the comments:

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Where are the comments?

257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 5:42:29pm

re: #256 #FergusonFireside

Where are the comments?

at the tweet link

258 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:42:33pm

re: #256 #FergusonFireside

Means the replies to that tweet with fuckface and old dude with really bad shirt.

259 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:44:26pm

That radio station has 69 followers.

260 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:44:34pm

Am I the only person who likes fruitcake? : ) With lots of nuts.

261 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 11, 2014 5:45:41pm

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

My mother and I make fruitcake every year. And its absolutely not of the doorstop variety. ;)

262 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:45:45pm

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

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Am I the only person who likes fruitcake? : ) With lots of nuts.

I like it. Haven’t had it in years. Because of the taboo and all.

263 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

Glendora and Monrovia residents that are up the hill are in for a long night I think. I’m SoCal born and raised but I do have this frequently updated NOAA link for ya.

And I got this great map link from Intellicast.

264 Snarknado!  Dec 11, 2014 5:47:23pm

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

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Am I the only person who likes fruitcake? : ) With lots of nuts.

I don’t like just any fruitcake, but a local bakery sells one I eat every year. Lots of nuts.

265 Kid A  Dec 11, 2014 5:47:44pm

This guy is a complete psychopath.

266 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 5:48:23pm
267 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:48:24pm

re: #263 Rightwingconspirator

NOAA link no work

268 Justanotherhuman  Dec 11, 2014 5:49:52pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards!

Later. : )

269 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:52:36pm

What was his response to the shitter questions????

270 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 5:57:01pm

re: #267 #FergusonFireside

Hmm. Well hit this one
and then click on the Interactive map, accessed at the upper left portion of the page.

or this is the update

UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION…

.SYNOPSIS…

A STRONG FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL BRING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL AND WINDYCONDITIONS TO MUCH OF THE AREA TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY…WITH THE STEADIEST RAIN EXPECTED TONIGHT. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS AND HIGH ELEVATION SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE AS WELL. AFTER A LULL OVER THE WEEKEND…ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM WILL BRING WET AND UNSETTLED WEATHER FOR THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK.

&&

.SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUN)…
WELL…TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY…THE FOCUS REMAINS ON A POWERFUL COLD FRONT FORECAST TO SWEEP ACROSS THE AREA. 12Z MODELS DID NOT INDICATE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE OVERALL THINKING. THERE WILL BE SOME LIGHT WARM-FRONTAL RAIN THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON…THEN THE FRONT WILL TAKE OVER. THE FRONT SHOULD MOVE ACROSS THE CENTRAL COAST THIS
EVENING…ACROSS VENTURA COUNTY AROUND 400 AM FRIDAY…THEN EXITING LOS ANGELES COUNTY BY LATE FRIDAY MORNING. BEHIND THE FRONT…A COLD AND UNSTABLE AIR MASS WILL GENERATE PLENTY OF SHOWERY PRECIPITATION THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT.

271 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 5:57:13pm

Tiramisu Pie with Caramel Topping

272 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 5:58:15pm

The top of the pie looks like Chuck took a crap on it

273 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 5:58:31pm

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

The top of the pie looks like Chuck took a crap on it

NO

274 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 6:00:58pm

Chuck plans to be the “Reddit for news, or the Facebook for news.”

/sideeye

275 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 6:01:28pm

Arrrgh now I can’t “unsee” it.

I’m putting whipped cream on that.

276 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 6:01:54pm

UPDATE SOCAL
Glendora now has mandatory evacuations. If any of you Lizards are displaced let me know I have a good roof in the SFV. Good coffee.

277 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 6:02:14pm

evenin’ fellow reptilians

278 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 6:02:35pm

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

Tiramisu Pie with Caramel Topping

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re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

The top of the pie looks like Chuck took a crap on it

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

Arrrgh now I can’t “unsee” it.

I’m putting whipped cream on that.

Skidmark pie…

/ducks

279 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:02:51pm

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Any Northern California lizards present? I’d appreciate hearing an update from you. We have some burned over areas in the San Gabriel range foothills and in my corner of SoCal our town has advised residents of areas likely to get hit by slides or flooding to evacuate. If they choose to stay then they have to sign a paper stating that they’ve been warned. Having lived here years ago when the hills came down I can state from experience that anyone who shelters in place is a damned fool..

No real problems here. Where I live there isn’t much of a flood or slide threat. However, more rain in 24 hours than we’ve had in some 18-24 month stretches in the drought takes a bit of getting used to.

280 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 11, 2014 6:03:05pm

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

Awesome.

281 lawhawk  Dec 11, 2014 6:03:43pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

He can’t even be 4chan for news. Even they don’t tolerate poop on the floor. /ok, maybe a subset on alt.crapping might…

282 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 6:04:53pm

Steny Hoyer is on the floor of The House asking for dems to vote for passage.

I really hate Hoyer, the dems need a better #2.

283 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 6:05:48pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Chuck plans to be the “Reddit for news, or the Facebook for news.”

/sideeye

GotNews can’t even be the GoatNews for news.

284 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 6:06:40pm
285 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 6:07:31pm

re: #276 Rightwingconspirator

UPDATE SOCAL
Glendora now has mandatory evacuations. If any of you Lizards are displaced let me know I have a good roof in the SFV. Good coffee.

We’re in Old Town by the park so no worries for us. If the rain’s what they say it will be I’ll be able to surf the standing waves on our North-South streets.

286 allegro  Dec 11, 2014 6:07:46pm

re: #282 b.d.

Steny Hoyer is on the floor of The House asking for dems to vote for passage.

I really hate Hoyer, the dems need a better #2.

If they pass this bill “as is” with the pleadings of Obama and other top Dems to do so, I will be finding it ever so much harder to argue that there is a real difference between the parties.

287 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 6:08:32pm
288 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 6:09:45pm

re: #285 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Love that area! We lunch there after our excursions on Baldy Ridge road. My dad bought a place on old town Monrovia. I so want a house up in those mountains one day.

289 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 6:11:26pm

re: #287 jaunte

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It’s OK if You’re a Republican, or “It’s the hypocricy, Stupid!”

290 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 6:12:14pm

re: #239 lawhawk

Next thing is that he’s going to claim that some of his best friends are queers.

Black queers to be exact.

291 #FergusonFireside  Dec 11, 2014 6:12:26pm
292 lawhawk  Dec 11, 2014 6:13:08pm

re: #286 allegro

There’s politics, and then there’s burning everything down. The GOP is intent on burning everything down. They’ll settle for forcing the Democrats to accept a crap sandwich that they’ve added with all their heinous riders.

The President isn’t likely to veto the CRomnibus because he recognizes how important it is to keep the government funded and funding through next year (and that it’ll be even harder to get a budget acceptable to Democrats next year when they’re in the minority in the Senate as well).

So, when you realize that there’s limited options and you want to keep government functioning, you’re left with trying to work around the GOP as best as you can because you’ve lost Congress starting next year.

And that further pushes the GOP to try and get even more crap inserted, knowing that they might try even more crap next year.

293 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #286 allegro

If they pass this bill “as is” with the pleadings of Obama and other top Dems to do so, I will be finding it ever so much harder to argue that there is a real difference between the parties.

On many economic issues, that’s pretty much true. The back and forth over gutting one of the few useful provisions in Dodd-Frank shouldn’t distract from the unpleasant fact that Dodd-Frank was pretty feeble as originally written.

I’ve never read a coherent explanation of why TBTF banks haven’t been trust-busted down to size and why Glass-Stegall was not reinstated, other than the obvious realpolitik point that the banks own both parties.

294 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 6:17:58pm
On Turner Classic Movies right now — Ernst Lubitsch’s “The Shop Around The Corner,” the perfect blend of comedy, drama, and romance.
295 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:18:02pm

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

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Am I the only person who likes fruitcake? : ) With lots of nuts.

needs lots and LOTS of brandy soaking.
For a very VERY long time.

296 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 6:18:26pm

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

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Am I the only person who likes fruitcake? : ) With lots of nuts.

Yes. ;)

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:20:09pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Chuck plans to be the “Reddit for news, or the Facebook for news.”

/sideeye

Chuck sent a tweet the other day asking how he could do a Reddit AMA.

Totally clueless “I’m a freakin genius!” ginger smurf.

298 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 11, 2014 6:20:21pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

needs lots and LOTS of brandy soaking.
For a very VERY long time.

You or the fruitcake?

RBS

299 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 6:22:08pm

re: #298 RealityBasedSteve

You or the fruitcake?

RBS

that is not an either/or question.

300 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 11, 2014 6:22:32pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck sent a tweet the other day asking how he could do a Reddit AMA.

Totally clueless “I’m a freakin genius!” ginger smurf.

mashable.com

There you go upChuck. Please send me 10000 dollars for services rendered.

RBS

301 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 6:22:43pm
302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:22:47pm

re: #298 RealityBasedSteve

You or the fruitcake?

RBS

yes

303 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:23:24pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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oooh oooh oohh!!!!!!!!

off to read it…

304 dog philosopher  Dec 11, 2014 6:23:31pm

re: #298 RealityBasedSteve

You or the fruitcake?

RBS

in my case i cant tell the difference

305 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 6:24:02pm
306 bratwurst  Dec 11, 2014 6:25:19pm
307 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 11, 2014 6:26:30pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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They were not kind to him. :)

RBS

308 klystron  Dec 11, 2014 6:30:56pm
309 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:31:32pm

re: #307 RealityBasedSteve

They were not kind to him. :)

RBS

It seemed kind enough to me. After all, CCJ was not once referred to as “the shit stain that walks and talks”.

310 EmmaAnne  Dec 11, 2014 6:31:43pm

re: #286 allegro

If they pass this bill “as is” with the pleadings of Obama and other top Dems to do so, I will be finding it ever so much harder to argue that there is a real difference between the parties.

They kicked our asses in the election. It is only going to get worse from here.

311 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 6:32:04pm
“…One editor at a conservative publication that has published Johnson would only speak about him anonymously, partly for fear of antagonizing a writer who had already caused him much grief, he said. Like some of his peers, this editor lamented Johnson’s toxic influence on conservative media. “How sick is this system that a person who does everything in the exact wrong way could get this [Washington] Post story written about him?” the editor asked, referring to a recent article that some industry figures, including one of the Post reporters whom Johnson targeted, criticized as too soft.

“It’s more than he’s just bad,” the editor said. “There’s a sense of cosmic injustice that someone like him could exist and make money off this.”politico.com

312 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:32:57pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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It wasn’t all that long before Johnson became a villain of the media world that he was a young conservative darling, laureled with fellowships and awards and given internships at respected institutions like the New York Sun and the Wall Street Journal.

oh my dog!

I’m dying laughing here…

313 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:33:56pm

re: #311 jaunte

I have no patience for this kind of whining from conservatives. CCJ is exactly what the conservative movement is trying to turn every American into.

314 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:34:00pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

He was an energetic cub reporter, willing to fly across the country to investigate a story on his own.

Umm…pretty sure he didn’t pay for that out of his own (empty) pocket…

315 Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 11, 2014 6:34:27pm

“”It’s more than he’s just bad,” the editor said. “There’s a sense of cosmic injustice that someone like him could exist and make money off this.”

Perfectly put.

Gods, I hope somebody scares up the funds and lawyerage to destroy him with a libel suit. I’ll contribute to any legal fund required.

316 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 11, 2014 6:37:05pm

re: #313 EPR-radar

I have no patience for this kind of whining from conservatives. CCJ is exactly what the conservative movement is trying to turn every American into.

Yah. “I’m shocked - SHOCKED! - to find gambling smears, lies, and personal destruction disguised as journalism going on here!”

317 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:37:45pm

re: #315 Pawn of the Oppressor

“”It’s more than he’s just bad,” the editor said. “There’s a sense of cosmic injustice that someone like him could exist and make money off this.”

Perfectly put.

Gods, I hope somebody scares up the funds and lawyerage to destroy him with a libel suit. I’ll contribute to any legal fund required.

Ann Coulter has been sitting in the same kind of sewer as CCJ for decades now. The only real difference between the two is that Coulter is more careful to avoid lawsuits.

318 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 6:38:02pm

We have CRomnibus.

319 Khal Wimpo  Dec 11, 2014 6:38:39pm

re: #263 Rightwingconspirator

Glendora and Monrovia residents that are up the hill are in for a long night I think. I’m SoCal born and raised but I do have this frequently updated NOAA link for ya.

And I got this great map link from Intellicast.

Whoa! The according to that map, the Central Coast is getting totally hammered. Fast winds in SloTown.

320 lawhawk  Dec 11, 2014 6:42:15pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

A digital Darth Vader? You mean a kid who’s handed a bunch of power, doesn’t truly understand what it is that he does, and then goes and blows up the system to bring about an even crappier form of government?

And who’s really got the mentality of a 12 year old who hates being called Annie?

Yup. That’s Chuckles.

321 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 6:43:19pm

re: #318 jaunte

We have CRomnibus.

Fuck it. The Dems and Repubs are now one and the same. They can both rot in hell.

322 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:43:55pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

To see the Wall Street Journal and the New York Sun put into the same category is very entertaining.

323 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 6:44:27pm

Fox is reverting back to 2003 and claiming liberals hate the troops.

324 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 6:45:03pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

Johnson’s former editors and colleagues refuse to talk about him on the record, with most claiming that they don’t want to poke a hornet’s nest. But nearly everyone I spoke with expressed their exasperation that Johnson still manages to insert himself into coverage of major events like Ebola or the disputed Rolling Stone story about alleged rape at UVa

How endearing…

325 b.d.  Dec 11, 2014 6:46:06pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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Johnson is engaged in the same kind of attention-mongering and outrage theater performed by groups like the Westboro Baptist Church

Read more: politico.com

The people who know him and worked with him know him well enough not to go on the record with their opinion of him, their address would be Tweeted out the next day if they did.

326 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:47:06pm

re: #321 Bubblehead II

Fuck it. The Dems and Repubs are now one and the same. They can both rot in hell.

Not true. The Democrats and Republicans differ on numerous social issues, and these differences are large enough to justify fighting for Ds vs. Rs.

However, there is no point in harboring illusions that the Democrats will meaningfully fight for their traditional economic issues and for organized labor, unless hard-pressed from the left in their primaries.

327 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 11, 2014 6:47:17pm

re: #321 Bubblehead II

Fuck it. The Dems and Repubs are now one and the same. They can both rot in hell.

No! No! No! don’t do that! As bad as the Dems can get, they haven’t gone off the deep end like the RWNJs.

328 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 6:48:55pm
Some people have little choice but to engage Johnson. Another man named Charles Johnson, who writes the political blog Little Green Footballs, is sometimes confused for his more inflammatory counterpart. “It’s like he’s damaging my brand with his behavior,” the proprietor of LGF said. Last month, Charles C. Johnson showed up at a Los Angeles apartment where the other Johnson used to live and tweeted a photo of it. The former resident was unamused: “He’s been so incredibly vicious towards me on Twitter that it’s hard to feel that this is just a harmless prank,” he said, describing Charles C. Johnson as an “egomaniacal bully and a malignant narcissist whose behavior borders on and sometimes crosses into outright stalking.”(The founder of Little Green Footballs was once a pretty controversial blogger himself but has since mellowed, moving towards the center and deleting some of his old posts.)

Is this correct or not? Seems fishy to me.

329 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 6:49:25pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

Fox is reverting back to 2003 and claiming liberals hate the troops.

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No Greta, drop that shit. If there’s anything that Rumsfeld did on the subject that was the right call, it was denying the CIA permission to use our military bases to carry out their torture porn. So conflating the sick shit they got up to with our troops is an insult to the men and women who serve and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

330 Dr. Matt  Dec 11, 2014 6:51:28pm

re: #321 Bubblehead II

Fuck it. The Dems and Repubs are now one and the same. They can both rot in hell.

57 Democrats are one and the same.

331 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 6:51:43pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this correct or not? Seems fishy to me.

Yeah…I was just going to ask about that bolded part.
Our Charles hasn’t deleted anything he posted, far as I know.

332 gwangung  Dec 11, 2014 6:52:59pm

re: #326 EPR-radar

Not true. The Democrats and Republicans differ on numerous social issues, and these differences are large enough to justify fighting for Ds vs. Rs.

However, there is no point in harboring illusions that the Democrats will meaningfully fight for their traditional economic issues and for organized labor, unless hard-pressed from the left in their primaries.

How about Democratic voters showing up period? Democratic officials gotta wonder why they should fight for a segment that doesn’t bother to vote.

333 Targetpractice  Dec 11, 2014 6:53:26pm

I’m not sure whether to conclude that 57 Democrats were okay with the GOP getting their wish list passed or were just scared of a shutdown being blamed on them. Either way, we just got royally screwed again without so much as a kiss.

334 Mike Lamb  Dec 11, 2014 6:53:46pm

re: #308 klystron

Lagunitas is great stuff. Hope they aren’t off line for too long.

335 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 6:54:30pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

Fox is reverting back to 2003 and claiming liberals hate the troops.

336 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 6:55:01pm
(The founder of Little Green Footballs was once a pretty controversial blogger himself but has since mellowed, moving towards the center and deleting some of his old posts.)

No.

337 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 6:56:47pm
338 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 6:56:52pm

I know. Irritating to see that. Some cheap Wikipedia research.

339 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 6:57:34pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this correct or not? Seems fishy to me.

It’s bullshit that was inserted into my Wikipedia profile by stalkers.

340 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Dec 11, 2014 6:58:05pm

re: #334 Mike Lamb

Just finished an IPA. Much pine.. great beers, but I’m sticking with New Glarus Moon Man.

341 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 6:58:06pm

The Politico article managed to diss Chucky while at the same time giving him way more credit than he deserves.

He is a scummy bottom feeder and floor shitter who makes Glenn Greenwald look like a gracious gentleman with mad journalistic skills.

342 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 6:59:16pm

re: #332 gwangung

How about Democratic voters showing up period? Democratic officials gotta wonder why they should fight for a segment that doesn’t bother to vote.

True. There needs to be a carrot and stick approach to D voter activism —- they need to show up in the primaries to keep the elected officials honest (i.e., the stick) and they also need to show up in all general elections to oppose the Republicans (i.e., the carrot).

However, the chances of that happening seem very low. I think the oligarchy’s strategy of boiling the frog very slowly will work, unfortunately.

343 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 6:59:40pm

Whoa. They played D&D 2000 years ago!

344 Mike Lamb  Dec 11, 2014 7:01:11pm

re: #340 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)

Just finished an IPA. Much pine.. great beers, but I’m sticking with New Glarus Moon Man.

I haven’t had the opportunity to try any New Glarus. I’ve been wanting to get a hold of some. None of my Midwest friends can locate any for a beer trade.

And Lagunitas makes one of the tastiest Black IPAs that I’ve had recently.

345 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:01:29pm

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

The Politico article managed to diss Chucky while at the same time giving him way more credit than he deserves.

He is a scummy bottom feeder and floor shitter who makes Glenn Greenwald look like a gracious gentleman with mad journalistic skills.

For starters, CCJ is no Darth Vader. More like some kind of demented and corrupted Jar Jar Binks, if one must stick with a Star Wars analogy.

346 jaunte  Dec 11, 2014 7:02:18pm

re: #345 EPR-radar

Ginger Womp Rat.

347 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Dec 11, 2014 7:03:02pm

re: #344 Mike Lamb

So does New Glarus. Lets get in touch.

newglarusbrewing.com

348 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:05:58pm

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa. They played D&D 2000 years ago!

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THAC0 with Theta…

349 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 7:06:01pm

re: #345 EPR-radar

For starters, CCJ is no Darth Vader. More like some kind of demented and corrupted Jar Jar Binks, if one must stick with a Star Wars analogy.

He’s a mutant evil ewok

350 Bubblehead II  Dec 11, 2014 7:07:50pm

Night Lizards. As for the Dems and Repubs. A pox on both of their houses.

351 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:08:05pm

re: #342 EPR-radar

True. There needs to be a carrot and stick approach to D voter activism —- they need to show up in the primaries to keep the elected officials honest (i.e., the stick) and they also need to show up in all general elections to oppose the Republicans (i.e., the carrot).

However, the chances of that happening seem very low. I think the oligarchy’s strategy of boiling the frog very slowly will work, unfortunately.

The problem is that Dems won’t stand up for anything for fear of being taunted by the RWNJs. Dems have to start getting feisty and angry and get just as mean and ornery about what the plutocrats are doing to our country as the RWNJs are about what they think liberals might do.

352 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 7:08:24pm

re: #340 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)

Just finished an IPA. Much pine.. great beers, but I’m sticking with New Glarus Moon Man.

Moon Man’s not bad but I prefer their Fat Squirrel. Now that’s a nice tasty little brown ale.

353 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:09:11pm

re: #350 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. As for the Dems and Repubs. A pox on both of their houses.

The problem with that is that there isn’t a viable alternative. You either get evil Nut Jobs or slightly less evil sane people. I’ll settle for sane any time.

354 Jenner7  Dec 11, 2014 7:10:00pm
355 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 7:10:00pm


Okay, we can argue about Truman, but i stand by my point.

356 palomino  Dec 11, 2014 7:10:23pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

Fox is reverting back to 2003 and claiming liberals hate the troops.

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What is Greta? Other than an ass-kissing Palin sycophant? She’s just another Fox stooge, not as stupid or unhinged as Hannity, but really not much better.

357 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:10:24pm

re: #350 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. As for the Dems and Repubs. A pox on both of their houses.

in other words a parapox,

358 gwangung  Dec 11, 2014 7:10:56pm

re: #351 PT Barnum

The problem is that Dems won’t stand up for anything for fear of being taunted by the RWNJs. Dems have to start getting feisty and angry and get just as mean and ornery about what the plutocrats are doing to our country as the RWNJs are about what they think liberals might do.

Why SHOULD they if they don’t get votes?

If Democratic voters won’t stand up for them consistently (i.e. midterms), then OF COURSE they won’t stand up for Democratic principles.

THAT’S the real problem.

359 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:11:15pm

re: #354 Jenner7

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We won’t get them without booting the milquetoast leaders we have now.

360 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 7:11:24pm

re: #131 Dr. Matt

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Very sad and tragic story.

Do I think that OC should be or causes crime? Nope. Do I think that their compulsive need to OC like they live in a combat zone is indicative of a high probability of serious mental instability? Bingo. That’s what caught up to these folks here.

361 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:11:39pm

re: #355 De Kolta Chair

The Soviet Communists also did a fine job of kicking Hitler’s ass.

362 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 11, 2014 7:12:45pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

The Soviet Communists also did a fine job of kicking Hitler’s ass.

Hitler kicked his own ass.

363 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 7:12:49pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

Fox is reverting back to 2003 and claiming liberals hate the troops.

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Oh for fuck’s sake: I was the troops.

364 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:12:54pm

re: #358 gwangung

Why SHOULD they if they don’t get votes?

If Democratic voters won’t stand up for them consistently (i.e. midterms), then OF COURSE they won’t stand up for Demotic principles.

THAT’S the real problem.

The problem is that the Democratic politicians mumble their positions and issues while the RWNJs shout theirs at the top of their lungs. If I don’t know what the hell you stand for, why should I vote for you?

365 Whack-A-Mole  Dec 11, 2014 7:14:48pm

re: #364 PT Barnum

They mumble their positions because they’re terrified of losing the support of that part of America that would never vote for them anyways. IOW, because they’re idiots.

366 calochortus  Dec 11, 2014 7:15:01pm

re: #363 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh for fuck’s sake: I was the troops.

Self loathing?
/

367 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Dec 11, 2014 7:15:20pm

re: #352 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m a fan of the IPA’s, and Moon Man has a nice citrus balance. I know a lot of people who love the Fat Squirrel, I think I’m just not a brown ale fan.

Just about every New Glarus brew I’ve tried I like. The staple, Fat Cow still rules the rumble rink. Road slush was great, Black top is a perfect black IPA.

Cabin Fever, Coffee Stout, and Totally Nakid all work well when the time is right.

368 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:15:21pm

re: #365 Whack-A-Mole

They mumble their positions because they’re terrified of losing the support of that part of America that would never vote for them anyways. IOW, because they’re idiots.

DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING! We have a winnah!

369 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 7:16:04pm

re: #363 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh for fuck’s sake: I was the troops.

Fox News “logic”: you’re not one of them (a RWNJ), so you don’t count.

370 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:16:18pm

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

Hitler kicked his own ass.

That too. One of Hitler’s many gifts to the allies was declaring war on the US after the US declaration of war on Japan. He also botched the invasion of the USSR.

371 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 7:16:50pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

The Soviet Communists also did a fine job of kicking Hitler’s ass.

And did they ever. But we did our part.

Have you ever read about the Battle of Kursk? I read a couple of books about it recently and all I can say is I’m glad my people weren’t anywhere near those parts or sure as shootin’ I wouldn’t be here today. Total devastation.

372 Whack-A-Mole  Dec 11, 2014 7:16:55pm

re: #367 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)

I haven’t tried a lot of the New Glarus brews, but I definitely like the Spotted Cow. Makes for some tasty beer brats.

373 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:17:34pm

Now amidst all the crazy stuff, I have an interview Monday for a gig that will pay 3 1/2 dollars more per hour and get me through all of 2015. My current gig is entering the “We’ll extend you by quarter, so we can keep you hanging without committing ourselves” phase, and I’m not sure I want to go through that again.

374 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:18:34pm

re: #370 EPR-radar

That too. One of Hitler’s many gifts to the allies was declaring war on the US after the US declaration of war on Japan. He also botched the invasion of the USSR.

He was gifted at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

375 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:19:20pm

re: #365 Whack-A-Mole

They mumble their positions because they’re terrified of losing the support of that part of America that would never vote for them anyways. IOW, because they’re idiots.

They also mumble their positions because they are too often bought by Wall Street et al. The Democrats famously have a problem with white, working-class men. Racism is part of the picture for sure, but their abandonment of labor can’t be helpful.

376 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 7:19:42pm

re: #10 Kragar

UHF references always get an upding by me!

377 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 7:19:58pm

re: #370 EPR-radar

That too. One of Hitler’s many gifts to the allies was declaring war on the US after the US declaration of war on Japan. He also botched the invasion of the USSR.

Had Hitler not personally intervened in the planning of and execution of Operation Barbarossa, it would have been entirely possible that the Germans could have won, or at least made out like bandits before suing for peace, in their theatre of WWII.

378 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Dec 11, 2014 7:20:21pm

re: #344 Mike Lamb

I haven’t had the opportunity to try any New Glarus. I’ve been wanting to get a hold of some. None of my Midwest friends can locate any for a beer trade.

And Lagunitas makes one of the tastiest Black IPAs that I’ve had recently.

I’m loggin off for the night, Mike. But I can get you a New Glarus sampler if you’d like. Just let me know how, or watch for my posts. It’s pretty easy to come by in this neck of the woods.

379 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 7:21:08pm

re: #376 teleskiguy

UHF references always get an upding by me!

Would you care to have a go at the Wheel of Fish or would you rather play “Find the Marble in the Oatmeal”?

Winner gets to drink from the firehose…

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380 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 7:23:02pm

re: #366 calochortus

Self loathing?
/

I spit on myself when I got off of the plane from Vietnam.

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 7:23:18pm

It passed the House 219-206.

votecruncher.com

382 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:23:22pm

re: #371 De Kolta Chair

And did they ever. But we did our part.

Indeed. However, the caption for that photo is actually pretty far off. I’m sure Hitler was much more bothered by losing to subhuman communists (in his view) on the Eastern Front than by losing to the US and allies in the West.

383 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:23:34pm

re: #378 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)

I’m loggin off for the night, Mike. But I can get you a New Glarus sampler if you’d like. Just let me know how, or watch for my posts. It’s pretty easy to come by in this neck of the woods.

Taking notes. I’m always up for good brown ales and stouts.

I had to quit drinking anything due to some meds I started taking this summer for what looked like it might be an autoimmune disorder. It’s finally resolved itself, so I’m hoping I’ll be able to indulge again in a few months.

384 PT Barnum  Dec 11, 2014 7:25:30pm

re: #379 TedStriker

Would you care to have a go at the Wheel of Fish?

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One of my favorites, along with Kentucky Fried Movie and Amazon Women on the Moon.

385 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 7:25:52pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

It’s bullshit that was inserted into my Wikipedia profile by stalkers.

Ahh, sounds much more plausible. I thought I’d heard you mention before how you’d never deleted anything despite claims to the contrary.

Bad on politico though. They had spoken to you about the story. The smart thing is do your background research first and then get any clarifications during the interview. That way what runs is accurate.

386 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 7:26:35pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

It passed the House 219-206.

votecruncher.com

“Number: H.R. 83

“Title: To require the Secretary of the Interior to assemble a team of technical, policy, and financial experts to address the energy needs of the insular areas of the United States and the Freely Associated States through the development of energy action plans aimed at promoting access to affordable, reliable energy, including increasing use of indigenous clean-energy resources, and for other purposes.”

Insular areas, Freely Associated States , indigenous clean-energy resources — what country or reality does this bill address? //

387 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 7:26:37pm

re: #358 gwangung

Why SHOULD they if they don’t get votes?

If Democratic voters won’t stand up for them consistently (i.e. midterms), then OF COURSE they won’t stand up for Democratic principles.

THAT’S the real problem.

That’s a bit like saying of a performer, “He’s doing a shitty job on purpose and he won’t do it right until the audiences are bigger.”

388 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:29:11pm

re: #387 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s a bit like saying of a performer, “He’s doing a shitty job on purpose and he won’t do it right until the audiences are bigger.”

Its a fine case of which comes first —- better officials or more engaged voters.

Meanwhile, the oligarchs are always there…

389 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:30:07pm

re: #386 De Kolta Chair

I’m assuming the entire contents of this bill were replaced by the cromnibus in a procedural move.

390 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 7:31:15pm

re: #377 TedStriker

Had Hitler not personally intervened in the planning of and execution of Operation Barbarossa, it would have been entirely possible that the Germans could have won, or at least made out like bandits before suing for peace, in their theatre of WWII.

That’s often argued but looking at the nature of the German economy and their lack of natural resources (see “The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy” by Adam Tooze). They were receiving critical war resources from the Soviets right up until a couple of hours prior to the invasion and never fully replaced those supplies.

I think it is far more accurate to say they lost WWII before they even started it. Essentially there was no way they could win a war against their European neighbors if they invaded the Soviet Union and, ideologically, there was no way they could not invade.

391 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 7:33:15pm

Reince Priebus awaits further orders

392 EPR-radar  Dec 11, 2014 7:34:30pm

re: #390 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s often argued but looking at the nature of the German economy and their lack of natural resources (see “The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy” by Adam Tooze). They were receiving critical war resources from the Soviets right up until a couple of hours prior to the invasion and never fully replaced those supplies.

I think it is far more accurate to say they lost WWII before they even started it. Essentially there was no way they could win a war against their European neighbors if they invaded the Soviet Union and, ideologically, there was no way they could not invade.

The impression I have is that Hitler was honestly surprised that invading Poland was enough to get declarations of war out of the west. Had that not happened, he would have been able to prepare for a one-front war against the USSR, and western intervention to prop up Stalin would have been unlikely.

393 gwangung  Dec 11, 2014 7:34:37pm

re: #387 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s a bit like saying of a performer, “He’s doing a shitty job on purpose and he won’t do it right until the audiences are bigger.”

I’m just noting that when we DID have more Dems (if not better ones), we actually made progress, and they were “rewarded” by low turnout. It then becomes a logical strategy to try to appeal to the voters who DO persist, even though they are not a fit.

I maintain that any strategy that can’t get out a persistent bloc of progressive voters isn’t going to elect a persistent slate of officials.

394 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 7:39:04pm

re: #382 EPR-radar

Indeed. However, the caption for that photo is actually pretty far off. I’m sure Hitler was much more bothered by losing to subhuman communists (in his view) on the Eastern Front than by losing to the US and allies in the West.

Hitler’s first order of business on his eastern front was killing the Jews, at which alas he was totally successful, with a good deal of help from the USSR. Yeesh, what an utter shithole and a blight on the history of “humanity.”

395 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 7:39:56pm

re: #386 De Kolta Chair

“Number: H.R. 83

“Title: To require the Secretary of the Interior to assemble a team of technical, policy, and financial experts to address the energy needs of the insular areas of the United States and the Freely Associated States through the development of energy action plans aimed at promoting access to affordable, reliable energy, including increasing use of indigenous clean-energy resources, and for other purposes.”

Insular areas, Freely Associated States , indigenous clean-energy resources — what country or reality does this bill address? //

govtrack.us

This bill [H.R. 83] became the vehicle for passage of the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2015 pdf, which was approved by the House on Dec 11, 2014.

396 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 7:48:32pm

Part of me recoiled a bit at how this could have happened, but another part of me is laughing my ass off about how Sheldon Adelson’s Sands empire got so completely and thoroughly pantsed by a bunch of Iranian hackers:

Ars Technica: Iranian hackers used Visual Basic malware to wipe Vegas casino’s network

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving putz…

397 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 11, 2014 7:48:49pm

re: #388 EPR-radar

Its a fine case of which comes first —- better officials or more engaged voters.

Meanwhile, the oligarchs are always there…

True. As has been noted above, the other side trumpets their policies no matter what. Voters know what they’re going to get when they vote for them and that seems to work. Notorious, destructive assholes like Scott Walker were re-elected despite being notorious destructive assholes. Democrats talk a good game and then too many of them throw down their rifles and run the first time someone calls them a liberal or shouts “Class warfare!”

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 11, 2014 7:52:40pm

Woodstove loaded, I’m off to sleep for a few hours.
Until I get back, have some cuteness:

399 TedStriker  Dec 11, 2014 7:52:46pm

…

400 PeterWolf  Dec 11, 2014 7:52:55pm

That radio interview was tragic. The announcer was either in that alternate universe that Charles mentioned, or woefully ignorant of his guest’s penchant for lying. I stopped listening after the first caller asked about pooping.

401 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 7:53:33pm

re: #400 PeterWolf

That radio interview was tragic. The announcer was either in that alternate universe that Charles mentioned, or woefully ignorant of his guest’s penchant for lying. I stopped listening after the first caller asked about pooping.

Only a total RWNJ douche would invite CCJ on the air

402 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 7:55:23pm
403 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 11, 2014 8:01:23pm

re: #355 De Kolta Chair

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Okay, we can argue about Truman, but i stand by my point.

And a commie LOL

404 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 8:06:45pm

re: #355 De Kolta Chair

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I regret posting that photo of Hitler. Just looking at that puss makes me wanna puke.

405 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 8:10:08pm
In recompense
406 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 8:14:07pm
The founder of Little Green Footballs was once a pretty controversial blogger himself but has since mellowed, moving towards the center and deleting some of his old posts.

Fuckin’ Politico.

As far as I know all the posts are there, though I know there are a number of comments in the posts that have been deleted.

407 allegro  Dec 11, 2014 8:20:57pm

re: #405 De Kolta Chair

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Jeez, even that too adorable picture is depressing to me tonight. Soon those little guys will be adopted out to new forever homes leaving such a hole in the hearts of those who loved them, cuddled them, laughed at their kitten antics. Probably gave them all names. Always to wonder if the homes they went to are safe and loving or they ended up with asshole floor-shitters or someone who will sell them out and squish them under a boot heel for a few more bucks and a quid pro quo.

Sigh.

408 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 8:22:09pm

Billionaire Red McCombs has been trying to build an obscene 10,000-person “village” at the base of Wolf Creek Ski Area in southern Colorado. To give you an idea of how boneheaded this is, the director of the San Juan Citizens Alliance wrote Red a letter.

December 10, 2014

Dear Red,

How are things back in Texas? Peggy Sue and I are vacationing in Durango. Unseasonably warm, thank goodness. If this is global warming, you can officially call me a fan.

Buying any sports franchises this holiday season? The Spurs, the Vikings, what’s next? How about the Houston Dynamo? Just pulling your leg, my friend. We both know soccer isn’t a real sport.

So, getting down to business, I’ve wanted to talk with you about something for a while now. It’s the Wolf Creek Village thing you’ve been working on for - what’s it been now - 28 years?

Talking to the people who live here, the question I get is: He wants to do what now? Build a 10,000-person “village” at over 10,000 feet on Wolf Creek Pass? Right smack in the middle of lynx habitat and high-altitude wetlands? Twenty miles from the nearest town and with poor access to basic utilities, much less emergency services? Come again?

It is one of the snarkiest things I’ve ever read about a proposed ski area development, ever.

Read the whole thing.

409 Snarknado!  Dec 11, 2014 8:22:10pm

re: #407 allegro

Jeez, even that too adorable picture is depressing to me tonight. Soon those little guys will be adopted out to new forever homes leaving such a hole in the hearts of those who loved them, cuddled them, laughed at their kitten antics. Probably gave them all names. Always to wonder if the homes they went to are safe and loving or they ended up with asshole floor-shitters or someone who will sell them out and squish them under a boot heel for a few more bucks and a quid pro quo.

Sigh.

I’m sure they won’t be given to members of Congress.

410 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 11, 2014 8:24:29pm

Off to work. BBL.

411 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 8:33:04pm

I don’t know. Do y’all think dude’s walking into a hornets nets?

412 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 8:42:23pm

Here’s one for the gitbox pickers out there and all those who dig those crazy jive cats: Billy Mure performing “Supersonic,” from his 1957 album “Supersonic Guitars In Hi-Fi”

413 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 11, 2014 8:43:17pm

This is one of the more disturbing right wing responses to the torture report I’ve seen…

Click to Reveal
414 allegro  Dec 11, 2014 8:44:17pm

At least there was one hilarious moment in my evening while out doing nightie walkies with the friends (human and dog) we walk with every night. Just as we were walking past several other park residents who were out visiting and enjoying the lovely evening, my friend said “Well, my hole is bigger than yours.” Smartass that I am, I noted the sudden silence of those we passed at this rather shocking announcement by responding, “You’ve given birth so I’m sure you do!”

What were we actually talking about? Our built-in microwave ovens. Mine cratered on Thanksgiving day and I’ve been having a helluva time replacing it with one that will fit.

Moral of the story: context is everything.

415 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 8:49:13pm

I’m holding out hope that Obama’s leaving-office October Surprise in 2016 is a cannabis legalization executive order, where he just removes cannabis from the drug schedule altogether. Alcohol isn’t scheduled.

416 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 8:51:15pm
417 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 8:53:51pm

re: #415 teleskiguy

TYRANNY!!!1!!
418 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 8:55:56pm

re: #417 De Kolta Chair

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I first saw this as a meme. I quote it often.

419 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 11, 2014 8:59:50pm
Death to Bungee-Mouse!

Good night folks.

420 darthstar  Dec 11, 2014 9:06:34pm

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa. They played D&D 2000 years ago!

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With real dungeons and dragons.

421 goddamnedfrank  Dec 11, 2014 9:16:14pm

Couldn’t resist.

422 allegro  Dec 11, 2014 9:19:33pm

re: #421 goddamnedfrank

Couldn’t resist.

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And probably schadenfreude at the decline of the US as exemplified by the likes of CCJ and the ignorant, asshole party that is about to dominate both houses of Congress.

423 bratwurst  Dec 11, 2014 9:23:08pm

Politico is back tonight with yet another edition of their ongoing “Draft Mitt Romney 2016” series. In this week’s episode, Mitt is not impressed with the current field (as if there WERE a current field):

Romney “tells people not to commit to a candidate that is not their first choice and that they aren’t excited about,”

But Mitt…how do you think you ended up getting any support in 2012?!?!?

Also, it seems that Mitt fanciers and Jeb Bush fans may not like each other all that much.

424 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 9:30:44pm

re: #421 goddamnedfrank

425 BeachDem  Dec 11, 2014 10:11:19pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

It passed the House 219-206.

votecruncher.com

Looking at the vote breakdown, I was kind of surprised that these Dems voted yes:

James Clyburn (I was equally surprised that he voted yes on Keystone)
Marci Kaptur

The no votes by Repubicans? Mostly loons (including the whole Republican contingent from my loony state.) I’m assuming they voted no because they WANTED to shut down the government. (You just know that when Bachmann, GOHMERT, Steve King and Marsha Blackburn vote with the majority of Dems, there’s some whacked reason for it.)


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