Monday Night Jam: Sean Rowe, “1952 Vincent Black Lightning”

Red hair and black leather
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Tonight’s musical tour de force is Sean Rowe’s fierce rendition of Richard Thompson’s classic folk ballad, “1952 Vincent Black Lightning.” An intense performance of a great, great song.

Thompson described this as “a simple boy-meets-girl story, complicated somewhat by the presence of a motorcycle.”

Said Red Molly to James, that’s a fine motorbike
A girl could feel special on any such like
Said James to Red Molly, well my hat’s off to you
It’s a Vincent Black Lightning, 1952
And I’ve seen you at the corners and cafes it seems
Red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme
And he pulled her on behind
And down to Box Hill they did ride

Said James to Red Molly, here’s a ring for your right hand
But I’ll tell you in earnest I’m a dangerous man
I’ve fought with the law since I was seventeen
I robbed many a man to get my Vincent machine
Now I’m 21 years, I might make 22
And I don’t mind dying, but for the love of you
And if fate should break my stride
Then I’ll give you my Vincent to ride

Come down, come down, Red Molly, called Sergeant McRae
For they’ve taken young James Adie for armed robbery
Shotgun blast hit his chest, left nothing inside
Oh, come down, Red Molly to his dying bedside
When she came to the hospital, there wasn’t much left
He was running out of road, he was running out of breath
But he smiled to see her cry
And said I’ll give you my Vincent to ride

Says James, in my opinion, there’s nothing in this world
Beats a 52 Vincent and a red headed girl
Now Nortons and Indians and Greeveses won’t do
They don’t have a soul like a Vincent 52
He reached for her hand and he slipped her the keys
He said I’ve got no further use for these
I see angels on Ariels in leather and chrome
Swooping down from heaven to carry me home
And he gave her one last kiss and died
And he gave her his Vincent to ride

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“1952 Vincent Black Lightning,” by Richard Thompson | American Songwriter

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538 comments
1 Kid A  Dec 15, 2014 5:48:51pm

Dear Apple Genius,

Who considers you a genius?

Sincerely,

Me.

2 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2014 5:55:48pm

re: #1 Kid A

Dear Apple Genius,

Who considers you a genius?

Sincerely,

Me.

Well, nobody would go there if it were the “Apple Joe Blow Store”.

3 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 15, 2014 5:56:05pm

I’m watching some Hercule Poirot on Netflixs. I’ve noticed that each time he is invited to some country estate, somebody dies under mysterious circumstances. Perhaps he is the greatest serial killer of all time, not just committing the crime, but somehow hypnotizing someone into taking the fall for it. /diabolical

4 Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2014 5:56:34pm

Posted this before, but it’s the best 2 minutes of bikes on the Intertubes. This SR500 and mine came down the same assembly line. Then their paths diverged. Seriously.

(There was a lot more work than first apparent in the LA night shoots.)

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 5:57:20pm

Good version to be sure. But the original was soooo intense. I always think it’s an older song than it is, that it’s from the days of “Shoot Out The Lights” or even “I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight” time frame. But no, wiki says 1991…

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2014 5:58:34pm

Just when ya though UpChuck couldn’t make even less sense than usual…

He haz family in Australian!

7 makeitstop  Dec 15, 2014 6:00:32pm

re: #3 RealityBasedSteve

I’m watching some Hercule Poirot on Netflixs. I’ve noticed that each time he is invited to some country estate, somebody dies under mysterious circumstances. Perhaps he is the greatest serial killer of all time, not just committing the crime, but somehow hypnotizing someone into taking the fall for it. /diabolical

I used to say that about Angela Lansbury’s character on ‘Murder, She Wrote.’ Everywhere she went, people dropped dead.

We started calling the program ‘Murder, She Caused.’

8 Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2014 6:01:51pm

re: #7 makeitstop

I used to say that about Angela Lansbury’s character on ‘Murder, She Wrote.’ Everywhere she went, people dropped dead.

We started calling the program ‘Murder, She Caused.’

Love Inspector Morse to death, but he brought Cabot Cove levels of slaughter to Oxford.

9 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:03:50pm

Guest room is set back to rights after the most recent houseguest’s departure, with the accompanying bittersweet farewell and relief at having the house to oneself again.

Christmas presents are taunting me on the living room floor, demanding wrapping so I can try to get things sent out tomorrow. Sigh.

10 b.d.  Dec 15, 2014 6:06:59pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just when ya though UpChuck couldn’t make even less sense than usual…

He haz family in Australian!

And he is comparing the country of Australian [sic] to the state of Pennsylvania, apples to apples again for Chuck, just so he can go on a tirade about the evil Muslims.

11 EPR-radar  Dec 15, 2014 6:07:08pm

re: #9 klystron

Guest room is set back to rights after the most recent houseguest’s departure, with the accompanying bittersweet farewell and relief at having the house to oneself again.

Christmas presents are taunting me on the living room floor, demanding wrapping so I can try to get things sent out tomorrow. Sigh.

You could enlist the aid of the feline overlords. //

12 thedopefishlives  Dec 15, 2014 6:09:19pm

re: #9 klystron

Guest room is set back to rights after the most recent houseguest’s departure, with the accompanying bittersweet farewell and relief at having the house to oneself again.

Christmas presents are taunting me on the living room floor, demanding wrapping so I can try to get things sent out tomorrow. Sigh.

I need to wrap Mrs. Fish’s Christmas gift. I can’t hardly motivate myself to do it, though. And tonight would’ve been perfect, with her being gone most of the evening shopping for stocking stuffers and groceries.

13 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:11:46pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

You could enlist the aid of the feline overlords. //

Hahahaha, all presents that are actually for here are …in the closet, where they cannot be chewed on.

re: #12 thedopefishlives

I need to wrap Mrs. Fish’s Christmas gift. I can’t hardly motivate myself to do it, though. And tonight would’ve been perfect, with her being gone most of the evening shopping for stocking stuffers and groceries.

Mr. klys doesn’t have a present yet. Sigh.

14 thedopefishlives  Dec 15, 2014 6:14:11pm

re: #13 klystron

Mr. klys doesn’t have a present yet. Sigh.

Mrs. Fish’s gift is a bit out of the ordinary. I couldn’t afford big bling this year, and I’m not the sort of guy who buys my wife lingerie as a gift for her - that’s a gift for me, thank you very much. Nor am I going to insult her by buying her some kind of domestic appliance or utensil as a gift, no sir. Instead, this year is a set of 4000 thread Egyptian cotton sheets. I would’ve gone with silk, but those were also out of my price range.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 15, 2014 6:15:39pm

Mrs. Cyborg wants an iPhone 6 plus. Now if only I could find one…

16 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:16:38pm

re: #14 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish’s gift is a bit out of the ordinary. I couldn’t afford big bling this year, and I’m not the sort of guy who buys my wife lingerie as a gift for her - that’s a gift for me, thank you very much. Nor am I going to insult her by buying her some kind of domestic appliance or utensil as a gift, no sir. Instead, this year is a set of 4000 thread Egyptian cotton sheets. I would’ve gone with silk, but those were also out of my price range.

The mini food processor from my parents didn’t make it to under the tree. That was too useful. I begged and got permission to open it early and it has already been used for tapenade.

His anniversary present (in Nov.) was a wooden mechanical clock that we will get to put together …together. His birthday is in February. Sheets, huh. I will have to consider that.

17 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:16:42pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Love Inspector Morse to death, but he brought Cabot Cove levels of slaughter to Oxford.

There was an episode of Midsommer Murders that had the characters remark on the unusual level of death and mayhem in the otherwise lovely rural area.

18 thedopefishlives  Dec 15, 2014 6:16:52pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Mrs. Cyborg wants an iPhone 6 plus. Now if only I could find one…

Speaking of, I received wonderful news from my company of a bit over 4 years. Next year, we’re implementing a Technology Allowance. Consultants get $750 and partners get $1000 to spend on any tech toy that is tangentially related to their personal productivity - phone, tablet, laptop, etc. I’m finally getting a friggin’ upgrade, man!

19 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2014 6:17:52pm

My surprise, let me show you it

20 thedopefishlives  Dec 15, 2014 6:18:00pm

re: #16 klystron

The mini food processor from my parents didn’t make it to under the tree. That was too useful. I begged and got permission to open it early and it has already been used for tapenade.

His anniversary present (in Nov.) was a wooden mechanical clock that we will get to put together …together. His birthday is in February. Sheets, huh. I will have to consider that.

We’ve pretty much destroyed all of ours and Mrs. Fish has always wanted a set of really, really nice ones for the master bedroom for personal enjoyment purposes. And so I came up with the idea.

21 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:18:02pm

re: #9 klystron

Guest room is set back to rights after the most recent houseguest’s departure, with the accompanying bittersweet farewell and relief at having the house to oneself again.

Christmas presents are taunting me on the living room floor, demanding wrapping so I can try to get things sent out tomorrow. Sigh.

I have mailed out my one and only Xmas package already. The good news is that you really wouldn’t have wanted to be at the post office today. This has to be the biggest package mailing day of the year.

22 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 6:18:24pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just when ya though UpChuck couldn’t make even less sense than usual…

He haz family in Australian!

Perhaps they’re diseases, like he is.

23 lawhawk  Dec 15, 2014 6:18:46pm

So, police want to complain about pro sports players and the t-shirts they’ve worn in solidarity with protesters against excessive force and officer-involved shooting deaths?

See and raise.

This is a pervasive mindset, and it runs from the heads of departments on down. It’s a complete lack of respect for the communities they serve. And with the militarization of police forces nationally, it’s only gotten worse.

24 freetoken  Dec 15, 2014 6:18:58pm

The more I wrestle with Wordpress the more I appreciate how easy it is to make a Page here, and get it out on the net for eyes to see.

25 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:20:46pm

re: #14 thedopefishlives

It sounds lovely to me. I love silk, but I really wouldn’t want silk sheets. If your feet (or hands, or any other body part) aren’t perfectly smooth, silk tends to catch. I am very fond of silk nightgowns, however, but for sheets, I’m a 100% cotton (preferably LL Bean percale) sheet fan.

26 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:20:48pm

re: #21 calochortus

I have mailed out my one and only Xmas package already. The good news is that you really wouldn’t have wanted to be at the post office today. This has to be the biggest package mailing day of the year.

Don’t tell me that, I have to go tomorrow. :(

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 15, 2014 6:21:20pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Get that man a job with Got news!

28 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 6:21:28pm

re: #17 calochortus

There was an episode of Midsommer Murders that had the characters remark on the unusual level of death and mayhem in the otherwise lovely rural area.

Did you ever notice that when Joyce Barnaby shows up in Midsomer Mudpuddle, or wherever, someone is bound to die?

29 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:22:05pm

Also, Lizards, you all rock for the ideas. Thank you.

30 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:22:54pm

re: #28 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Did you ever notice that when Joyce Barnaby shows up in Midsomer Mudpuddle, or wherever, someone is bound to die?

Yup, I’d never, ever belong to a club of which she was a member. ;)

31 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:23:37pm

re: #26 klystron

Don’t tell me that, I have to go tomorrow. :(

Even tomorrow should be better than the Monday about 10 days before Xmas. Just don’t go at lunchtime.

32 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:24:27pm

re: #31 calochortus

Even tomorrow should be better than the Monday about 10 days before Xmas. Just don’t go at lunchtime.

No worries there, I have a lunchtime date with the dentist. :(

33 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:26:35pm

Oh look, it’s raining again. Now, in general I’m pro-rain, but in this case the hubby has to be out doing a night time hike, presumably in the rain, though it is possible he’s not getting too much rain where he is.

34 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:26:51pm

re: #32 klystron

What fun!

35 nines09  Dec 15, 2014 6:28:59pm

“I see angels on Ariels in leather and chrome…..”

36 lawhawk  Dec 15, 2014 6:29:40pm

Hmmm… if this is a sign of things to come with Congress, it wont be pretty. Call it incompetence/showboating, and getting called for it.

Boehner complains about the failure of the Senate to pass the terrorism insurance bill, except that anyone who has access to bill tracking (IOW - everyone via the thomas.loc.gov site) knows that the Senate passed it months ago in bipartisan fashion (93-4). Had the GOP controlled House put it up to a vote months ago, it wouldn’t be an issue.

So, Boehner tries to play gotcha, only to get played by Schumer.

37 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 6:30:40pm
Vincent Black Lightning
38 Kid A  Dec 15, 2014 6:31:43pm

re: #37 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh my God, that is beautiful.

39 thedopefishlives  Dec 15, 2014 6:32:52pm

re: #33 calochortus

Oh look, it’s raining again. Now, in general I’m pro-rain, but in this case the hubby has to be out doing a night time hike, presumably in the rain, though it is possible he’s not getting too much rain where he is.

It is slowly migrating from rain to ice to snow here in the wild north country. Let it be winter again.

40 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 15, 2014 6:33:15pm

I go get drunk at a Christmas Party and all you get 250+ posts. I might fall asleep at the keyboard tonight…

41 freetoken  Dec 15, 2014 6:33:19pm

Though it is no longer supported as was never used much, the old Apple iWeb lent itself to so much more creative thinking than Dreamweaver.

I’ve tried Dreamweaver since at least 2009 and all it has ever been is a collection of bad user interface experiences and never ending links to Adobe mind-think. Sure, it has all the bells and whistles, but most people don’t need them, and the reason most of the web used to be so boring and most web pages appearing similar is down to the dominance of Dreamweaver.

Thankfully the rise of iPhone forced a rethink of the Web and what websites ought to look like.

Still, I find that for making a simple web site (on my own domain) to be quite frustrating, if only because the tedium of the medium (HTML, etc.) takes over and my creativity gets squashed by a never ending stream of ASCII characters marauding across the imagination, stomping the true muses.

42 dog philosopher  Dec 15, 2014 6:34:39pm

re: #33 calochortus

Oh look, it’s raining again. Now, in general I’m pro-rain, but in this case the hubby has to be out doing a night time hike, presumably in the rain, though it is possible he’s not getting too much rain where he is.

predictioners say california rainishness will stop for a while after this friday

43 jaunte  Dec 15, 2014 6:35:26pm

re: #37 Higgs Boson’s Mate

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Price then/now: $1,800 / $150,000
motorcycleclassics.com

44 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:35:34pm

re: #42 dog philosopher

predictioners say california rainishness will stop for a while after this friday

There was, for a brief period of time, a prediction of snow in Yosemite Valley for this weekend. Alas, it looks unlikely now.

I’m taking the camera anyway.

45 nines09  Dec 15, 2014 6:35:49pm
1938 Ariel 350 cc Red Hunter


Angels on Ariels in leather and chrome…

46 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:36:19pm

re: #42 dog philosopher

predictioners say california rainishness will stop for a while after this friday

And that’s a good thing as long as it starts up again at some point.

47 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:38:57pm

Hmm, there’s a little piece on the news about Skype coming out with an instant translation service using some Microsoft software.
I predict hilarity* will ensue.

*Or nuclear war

48 dog philosopher  Dec 15, 2014 6:41:17pm
harley 1905
49 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 6:41:21pm

re: #3 RealityBasedSteve

LOVE LOVE LOVE Hercule Poirot! You might enjoy the Dorothy Sayers novels…

50 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2014 6:42:57pm

re: #49 Floral Giraffe

LOVE LOVE LOVE Hercule Poirot! You might enjoy the Dorothy Sayers novels…

I think Peter Ustinov was the best Poirot ever.

51 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 6:42:58pm

re: #13 klystron

Pssst, diamond earrings. They can be small, and of any shape. You will be a BIG winner…..

52 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:43:22pm

re: #51 Floral Giraffe

Pssst, diamond earrings. They can be small, and of any shape. You will be a BIG winner…..

Hehe, but Mr. Klys doesn’t have pierced ears!

;)

53 petesh  Dec 15, 2014 6:44:23pm

Nice, but I saw Richard do this solo at Hardly Strictly in Golden Gate Park a couple of years ago, and no one will ever beat that. Surprisingly, much of the audience did not seem familiar with his work, but he silenced them with the first verse and by the time he soared into the “carry me home” climax jaws were dropping all around. I’ve seen him several times, and he’s never been bad but that afternoon he was fabulous.

54 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 6:46:01pm

re: #52 klystron

Hehe, but Mr. Klys doesn’t have pierced ears!

;)

OOPS!!!!! Cue me embarassed here, BIG TIME!!!!!

55 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 15, 2014 6:47:27pm

re: #52 klystron

Hehe, but Mr. Klys doesn’t have pierced ears!

;)

You could offer to wear them until he gets a piercing…

RBS

56 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 15, 2014 6:50:43pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Right. Only Congressmen can do that.
//

57 klystron  Dec 15, 2014 6:51:11pm

re: #55 RealityBasedSteve

You could offer to wear them until he gets a piercing…

RBS

I don’t have pierced ears either, sadly.

re: #54 Floral Giraffe

OOPS!!!!! Cue me embarassed here, BIG TIME!!!!!

Don’t be! Diamonds would go over well for me, although I have long since resigned myself to eventually picking out my own ring. Someday.

Actually I joke that I will turn him into a diamond after he passes away. He responds by asking that I take him off when in the bedroom with the next husband.

58 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 6:53:40pm

re: #38 Kid A

Oh my God, that is beautiful.

They were pretty. Almost as nice as the Ariel Square 4

or, the ultimate, a cafe’d Bonneville.

59 calochortus  Dec 15, 2014 6:59:11pm

re: #57 klystron

I don’t have pierced ears either, sadly.

I do… (Just sayin’)

60 goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2014 6:59:17pm

CCJ’s radio interview with con artist and convicted gasoline thief Jason Wade Taylor will begin in just about a minute.

blogtalkradio.com

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 15, 2014 7:02:11pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

You could enlist the aid of the feline overlords. //

You need help wrapping presents!?!?
62 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2014 7:05:36pm
63 Charles Johnson  Dec 15, 2014 7:08:13pm
64 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2014 7:10:04pm

If 2016 is Jeb vs Hillary just shoot me now.

65 lawhawk  Dec 15, 2014 7:10:08pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

So’s Donald Trump, but just because he’s got an inflated ego doesn’t mean he’s got a furball’s chance of winning a nomination.

66 3eff Jeff  Dec 15, 2014 7:13:10pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Oh, that is not helping. I’m looking at buying a first motorcycle, and I’m trying to talk myself into something used rather than a new SR400.

(Thanks for posting that. :)

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2014 7:13:54pm
68 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 15, 2014 7:15:05pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The bluebird of happiness disapproves of your frivolity.

RBS

69 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 7:15:19pm

re: #48 dog philosopher

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The last time I visited my aunt Joanie in Central Massachusetts, who’s hubby Scott renovates classic motorcycles, she had a couple of old early puppies like that one hanging out in her living room. My first words on seeing them were something along the lines of “Joanie, are you fabulously wealthy, and if so will you front me for a case of Guinness?”

Seriously, if you’re going to hit somebody up for a case of Guinness, who better than your aunt who has a couple of antique motorcycles in her living room?

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 7:20:02pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

If 2016 is Jeb vs Hillary just shoot me now.

That would be grounds for moving to an off the grid cabin in the middle of one of the national forests up here and living on pine nuts, venison & a three sisters garden. Buy supplies maybe twice a year… shudder.

Kerosene lanterns, a bunch of empty notebooks to spend four years writing bad poetry and praying that whichever of those two twits won they don’t manage to grow the mushroom clouds.

71 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2014 7:20:35pm

re: #70 William Barnett-Lewis

That would be grounds for moving to an off the grid cabin in the middle of one of the national forests up here and living on pine nuts, venison & a three sisters garden. Buy supplies maybe twice a year… shudder.

Kerosene lanterns, a bunch of empty notebooks to spend four years writing bad poetry and praying that whichever of those two twits won they don’t manage to grow the mushroom clouds.

Canada is right across the river.

72 Jenner7  Dec 15, 2014 7:21:39pm
73 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 15, 2014 7:22:55pm

re: #72 Jenner7

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Just like seeing a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.
/

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 7:23:52pm

re: #71 The Vicious Babushka

Canada is right across the river.

I’d have to swim Gitchigume… ;)

Probably don’t have the skill set to legally emigrate there. And if I was up for that I’d probably try for Germany first. Loved my time there & even remember a word or three of Deutsche.

75 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 7:25:00pm

re: #73 Feline Fearless Leader

Just like seeing a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.
/

I loved The Atari’s “Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac” better but I’m a old punk rather than an even older hippy.

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2014 7:26:30pm

Woodstove loaded, rain moving in, kittehs are telling me it’s time to go to sleep.

purrfect…

laterz…

77 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 7:27:08pm

re: #69 De Kolta Chair

The last time I visited my aunt Joanie in Central Massachusetts, who’s hubby Scott renovates classic motorcycles, she had a couple of old early puppies along those lines hanging out in her living room. My first words upon seeing them were “Joanie, those are some bad arse bikes — are you fabulously wealthy, and if so will you front me for a case of Guinness?”

Seriously, if you’re going to hit somebody up for a case of Guinness, who better than your aunt who has a couple of antique motorcycles in her living room? D-yuh!

78 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 7:28:23pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

Wait a sec, did I just reply to myself? Awkward…

79 Kragar  Dec 15, 2014 7:31:18pm

This is one of the many bikes my dad worked on over the years.

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 15, 2014 7:32:30pm
OBEY
81 Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2014 7:35:57pm

re: #66 3eff Jeff

Oh, that is not helping. I’m looking at buying a first motorcycle, and I’m trying to talk myself into something used rather than a new SR400.

(Thanks for posting that. :)

The SR’s are instant classics. The 500 only sold here for a few years, but it’s still supported in Japan and Europe. The XT, TT and SRs are still competitive racers.

82 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 7:36:37pm

re: #79 Kragar

This is one of the many bikes my dad worked on over the years.

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That’s a beauty. Sleek and elegant.

83 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 7:41:15pm

Looking at one of these: a Royal Enfield Continental GT, 535cc, $5999

84 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 7:41:50pm

re: #79 Kragar

This is one of the many bikes my dad worked on over the years.

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Pure. Utter. Techno. Lust. That machine could induce me to many a mortal sin if I’d get my hands on it… ;)

ETA: Mid 70’s? Shifter moved in 75?

85 3eff Jeff  Dec 15, 2014 7:48:21pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

The SR’s are instant classics. The 500 only sold here for a few years, but it’s still supported in Japan and Europe. The XT, TT and SRs are still competitive racers.

I definitely agree with that. I also like that Yamaha is selling a bike with a modern fuel injection system on an air-cooled, kick-start only thumper. (I’m in the camp that thinks an air cooled engine in a double cradle frame is what a motorcycle is supposed to look like.)

86 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 7:49:11pm
“You can turn off the charm, I’m immune.” — Pussy Galore


Youtube Video

Rest in peace, John Barry

87 Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2014 7:50:01pm

re: #66 3eff Jeff

Oh, that is not helping. I’m looking at buying a first motorcycle, and I’m trying to talk myself into something used rather than a new SR400.

(Thanks for posting that. :)

Here’s the old “Garage Girl” mini-drama/commercial from Yamaha.

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88 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 8:05:16pm
89 goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2014 8:06:27pm

After listening to CCJ speak I now very much doubt his claims of having autism. He’s a straight up psychopath.

90 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 8:09:34pm

Oh lawdy!

I had to take a little nap. 30,000 vertical feet of powder skiing will do that to ya!

A hipstergram I took in the woods: instagram.com

91 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 8:17:13pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, I wondered if we were gonna see something like this with this story, heh.

92 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 8:24:57pm
93 darthstar  Dec 15, 2014 8:33:49pm

re: #92 De Kolta Chair

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Beady-eyed little fucker, that Chuck.

94 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 8:41:11pm

Went to dinner with my hot upstairs neighbor. Life is good.

95 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 8:42:20pm

re: #94 #FergusonFireside

Went to dinner with my hot upstairs neighbor. Life is good.

Do tell. Hey, it’s my Friday, ;-)

96 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 8:43:08pm

This new album is making the news.

97 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 8:44:07pm

re: #95 De Kolta Chair

Do tell. Hey, it’s my Friday, ;-)

Heh. We’ve been neighbs for 3 years with a bit of flirt. He’s moving at the end of the month. I’m like, lets get this done with!!! lol.

98 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 8:49:22pm

re: #97 #FergusonFireside

Heh. We’ve been neighbs for 3 years with a bit of flirt. He’s moving at the end of the month. I’m like, lets get this done with!!! lol.

Men, haruuuumph. Guys please do everyone a favor and at least try for first base. That’s a major complaint from my gal pals: Men are too damn shy!

99 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 8:52:26pm

re: #96 #FergusonFireside

This new album is making the news.

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My 21 year old nephew, major domo of all that is hip, says this is hip.

100 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 8:53:35pm

re: #99 De Kolta Chair

My nephew, major domo of all that is hip, says this is hip.

I’m listening.

It was also covered on NPR this afternoon, so us olds are exposed.

101 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 8:55:18pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

My surprise, let me show you it

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Yeah, that story made no sense from the beginning, and the reporter who swallowed it is an idiot. I figured the kid watched “The Wolf of Wall Street” and went from there. (And, btw, I thought that movie was three incredibly long, incredibly tedious hours of WTF.)

102 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:00:15pm

re: #100 #FergusonFireside

I’m listening.

It was also covered on NPR this afternoon, so us olds are exposed.

I’m old skool R&B (Carla Thomas, Detroit Junior, Junior Parker, et alia), so my opinion probably doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, but D’Angelo has a lot of talent. His last record was very original, so I’ll definitely check his new one out. The two cuts I’ve heard remind me a lot of Rufus Wainwright, Anthony and the Johnsons, and Junior Parker himself. I like the lush orchestrations, which remind me of Nelson Riddle.

103 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 9:01:00pm

Already 64 rubles for 1 dollar. Around 3 rubles per day now? Free fall.

104 darthstar  Dec 15, 2014 9:03:59pm

If you’ve got facebook, check out this Front End loader driving.

facebook.com

105 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 9:06:49pm
106 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 9:09:45pm

That’s the Red Square right now.

Image: B47WHpZIYAAlHZB.jpg:large

107 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:14:01pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

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That reminds me, I haven’t made calamari in a while.

Meanwhile, in The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. How’s about them beets, Eisenhower?
108 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 15, 2014 9:16:36pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Posted this before, but it’s the best 2 minutes of bikes on the Intertubes. This SR500 and mine came down the same assembly line. Then their paths diverged. Seriously.

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(There was a lot more work than first apparent in the LA night shoots.)

I quit riding street motorcycles when I moved to Miami in the mid-1980s.

Don’t think it is necessary to explain why.

OK, since you asked - e. g. when the stoplight changed to green:

1. You still looked both ways to make sure someone wasn’t running the red light because…

2. If you were going to make a left turn at the stoplight, you had to check your driver’s side mirror to make sure some “video driver” wasn’t trying to pass you on the left in the opposing lane and cut you off while they continued straight thru the intersection.

As Dave Barry wrote, “come back to Miami, we weren’t shooting at you.”

109 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:18:17pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Bikini atoll is only 250 miles from where I was born.

110 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:20:43pm

re: #109 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bikini atoll is only 250 miles from where I was born.

Any interesting glow tricks?

111 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:22:35pm

re: #110 #FergusonFireside

Any interesting glow tricks?

Well, I don’t need a night light.

112 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 9:23:15pm

re: #109 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bikini atoll is only 250 miles from where I was born.

113 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:23:44pm

re: #111 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well, I don’t need a night light.

HA

114 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:24:34pm

re: #109 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bikini atoll is only 250 miles from where I was born.

And…where were you born?

115 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:26:15pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

116 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:26:26pm

re: #114 #FergusonFireside
Kwajalein.

117 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 9:26:39pm
118 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 9:26:42pm

re: #114 #FergusonFireside

I had family at the White Sands prooving grounds. They didn’t glow…

119 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:27:47pm

re: #118 Floral Giraffe

I had family at the White Sands prooving grounds. They didn’t glow…

Must have been up wind.

120 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 9:28:34pm

re: #119 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They had glass made from the sands…

121 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:28:59pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

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That was a sad chapter in my life. She dumped me when the deal for a sequel fell through.

122 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:29:00pm

re: #116 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Kwajalein.

looked it up

The total land area of the atoll amounts to just over 16 square miles

WTF were your parents doing there? Scientists? Natives?

123 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 9:31:27pm

That police union chief from Cleveland is an even bigger asshole when he talks than when he writes. Ugh.

msnbc.com

And Andrew Hawkins is great representative of the NFL and of humanity.

“I was taught that justice is a right that every American should have. Also justice should be the goal of every American. I think that’s what makes this country. To me, justice means the innocent should be found innocent. It means that those who do wrong should get their due punishment. Ultimately, it means fair treatment. So a call for justice shouldn’t offend or disrespect anybody. A call for justice shouldn’t warrant an apology…

His whole statement was really beautiful.

talkingpointsmemo.com

124 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:32:17pm

re: #118 Floral Giraffe

I had family at the White Sands prooving grounds. They didn’t glow…

My dad drove me and him up there from Tucson one time to watch some maniac try to break a speed record. It was over in a blink, and all I remember aside from the dust was a dive bar filled with wacky characters we went to afterwards, which I believe was what Pop was really interested in. He loved observing and meeting characters in dive bars. Like father like son.

125 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 9:33:03pm

re: #124 De Kolta Chair

Family loved spelunking in the area. CRAZY folks!

126 blueraven  Dec 15, 2014 9:34:36pm

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Already 64 rubles for 1 dollar. Around 3 rubles per day now? Free fall.

Whoa 17% interest rates!

Russia on Monday announced that it would hike its key interest rate to 17 percent, effective Tuesday, citing rising devaluation and inflation risks.

The bank had raised the rate to 10.5 percent last week in an effort to stem a run on its currency.
“This decision is aimed at limiting substantially increased ruble depreciation risks and inflation risks,” the central bank said in a statement. The decision is effective starting Dec 16.

…

“All it is is a temporary stem in the decline of the ruble,” Gartman told CNBC Monday. “The problems that it’s going to create for the Russian economy, for the Russian people and for Mr. Putin, [will be] very severe.”

Gartman sees the ruble trading at 100 against the dollar soon. The currency has tumbled some 50 percent year-to-date.

“This is really extraordinary to watch,” Gartman said. “I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Russians we selling gold, they have no choice. What else can they sell? They can’t sell any crude oil anymore.”

127 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:35:25pm

re: #123 BeachDem

That police union chief from Cleveland is an even bigger asshole when he talks than when he writes. Ugh.

msnbc.com

And Andrew Hawkins is great representative of the NFL and of humanity.

“I was taught that justice is a right that every American should have. Also justice should be the goal of every American. I think that’s what makes this country. To me, justice means the innocent should be found innocent. It means that those who do wrong should get their due punishment. Ultimately, it means fair treatment. So a call for justice shouldn’t offend or disrespect anybody. A call for justice shouldn’t warrant an apology…

His whole statement was really beautiful.

talkingpointsmemo.com

It WAS.

These offended police people, really need to check it. They are exposing themselves as corrupt, unserving assholes.

128 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 9:36:28pm

Some idiot complains about the movie with Kim being graphically assassinated.

dailykos.com

My gut reaction: How would Seth Rogan, and most other Americans, react if someone from a foreign country made a comedy about assassinating the President of the United States?

Yeah, because it’s just the same, doncha know.

129 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:37:15pm

re: #125 Floral Giraffe

Family loved spelunking in the area. CRAZY folks!

I was in my high school’s weekend spelunking class. Looking back on it, we must have all been insane. I can’t imagine crawling into such itsy bitsy spaces now. That our teacher, a very nice and smart young lady, was a fox who looked just like Marilyn Monroe might have had something to do with it.

130 Floral Giraffe  Dec 15, 2014 9:37:57pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

It WAS.

These offended police people, really need to check it. They are exposing themselves as corrupt, unserving assholes.

And, that’s a BAD thing?

131 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:39:03pm

re: #122 #FergusonFireside

looked it up

WTF were your parents doing there? Scientists? Natives?

Dad was Navy. I only stayed there two weeks at which time we flew out to Midway aboard an R4D. Midway to Hawaii and Hawaii to CONUS was flown aboard a Martin Mars flying boat.

That’s how old I am.

132 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 15, 2014 9:39:06pm

re: #126 blueraven

A crisis of sorts would have happened one way or another (oil-based economy and all that), but without the sanctions and with a measure of international support Russia could have gone through it without severe consequences. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

133 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 9:39:14pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

Just for you—Charles P. Pierce’s intro to his story about the torture discussions on the Sunday talk shows:

…our semi-regular weekly survey of the state of Our National Dialogue which, as you know, is what Jackson Browne would have come up with, had he composed “Rock Me On The Waterboard.”

134 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:39:17pm

re: #130 Floral Giraffe

And, that’s a BAD thing?

Nope, but major shift in thought.

Seriously, I see a police man now, I look at him differently. They all know this.

And good.

135 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 15, 2014 9:39:44pm

re: #109 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bikini atoll is only 250 miles from where I was born.

I’ve just been reading about the forced location of the residents of Bikini due to the Nuclear tests.

Good GOD did those people get the shaft from Uncle Sam. Breaks my heart.

136 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:41:47pm

re: #133 BeachDem

Just for you—Charles P. Pierce’s intro to his story about the torture discussions on the Sunday talk shows:

…our semi-regular weekly survey of the state of Our National Dialogue which, as you know, is what Jackson Browne would have come up with, had he composed “Rock Me On The Waterboard.”

ahhhhhh!

Rock Me on the Water

I’m in

137 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:44:12pm

Like Jesus in the sky!

Gah I love this song.

Thanks Beach.

138 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:44:58pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve just been reading about the forced location of the residents of Bikini due to the Nuclear tests.

Good GOD did those people get the shaft from Uncle Sam. Breaks my heart.

At the time, everyone who should have known better thought that the islanders would be able to return within a few years. There was an attempt to move them back that was cancelled when high levels of strontium 90 were discovered.

139 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 9:45:20pm

re: #136 #FergusonFireside

ahhhhhh!

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Video

I’m in

Oh people, look around you
The signs are everywhere
You’ve left it for somebody other than you
To be the one to care
You’re lost inside your houses
There’s no time to find you now
Your walls are burning and your towers are turning
I’m going to leave you here and try to get down to the sea somehow.

Dog, I love that man!

141 goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2014 9:50:10pm

re: #132 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

A crisis of sorts would have happened one way or another (oil-based economy and all that), but without the sanctions and with a measure international support Russia could have gone through it without severe consequences. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I don’t even feel schadenfreude at this point, I just feel sad for the people this is going to hurt the most.

143 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 9:55:37pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

I don’t even feel schadenfreude at this point, I just feel sad for the people this is going to hurt the most.

Sadly, it’s not just Putin. Russia has suffered an almost unbroken succession of wretched heads of state back to Czarist times. If it wasn’t for bad luck…

144 sagehen  Dec 15, 2014 9:55:50pm

re: #128 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Some idiot complains about the movie with Kim being graphically assassinated.

dailykos.com

Yeah, because it’s just the same, doncha know.

Wasn’t there some British or Canadian film that had Bush being assassinated? My memory is vague, but…

145 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 9:57:23pm

Can I tell you folks something funny? OK!

The first two hours of skiing today, my buddy and I were in need of a cannabis pipe as neither of us brought one. We were split up from our group and took some amazing runs (that included dangerous tree skiing as the deadfall is still not completely covered up). We stopped at one of the mountaintop lodges to get on our glowing rectangles (phones) to try and regroup the crew, which I dubbed Team Hard Core (THC). So my friend and I are sitting in the lodge and he says “I wish we had a pipe.”

So I paid $3 for an apple at the ski lodge.

A couple of dudes in their 30s smoked cannabis out of an apple on Vail Mountain today. Just so y’all know.

146 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 9:57:52pm

SONG FOR ADAM - JACKSON BROWNE 1972 (HD HQ Lyrics)

Song for Adam

147 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 9:58:03pm

re: #142 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

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Very nice illustration. I also like this New Yorker cover from the last Winter Olympics…

148 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 9:58:12pm

re: #140 #FergusonFireside

Jamaica Say You Will

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Video

I could listen to him all night long (and often do!)

150 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 10:00:27pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

Can I tell you folks something funny? OK!

The first two hours of skiing today, my buddy and I were in need of a cannabis pipe as neither of us brought one. We were split up from our group and took some amazing runs (that included dangerous tree skiing as the deadfall is still not completely covered up). We stopped at one of the mountaintop lodges to get on our glowing rectangles (phones) to try and regroup the crew, which I dubbed Team Hard Core (THC). So my friend and I are sitting in the lodge and he says “I wish we had a pipe.”

So I paid $3 for an apple at the ski lodge.

A couple of dudes in their 30s smoked cannabis out of an apple on Vail Mountain today. Just so y’all know.

I took a cruise with my ex, He loved the buffet. Grabbed many apples.

You and he went organic.

151 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 10:01:19pm

re: #148 BeachDem

I could listen to him all night long (and often do!)

I am.

152 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 10:04:45pm

Your Bright Baby Blues.

I took this song to heart. He was speaking to me. Then, when I was 15 or so and now.

Jackson Browne - Your Bright Baby Blues + lyrics

153 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 10:04:54pm

Powder Days will always be one of my very favorite things. There’s nothing like them.

154 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 10:08:02pm

And Lindley is playing the slide guitar.

155 teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2014 10:11:19pm

re: #150 #FergusonFireside

You and he went organic.

I lived in a condo at the base of Mount Crested Butte for a time while I was finishing school. We had two south-facing balconies. We lit our bowls with magnifying glasses a lot on those balconies.

156 De Kolta Chair  Dec 15, 2014 10:15:57pm

Later gators. Time to crawl into bed and catch the second half of Mystery Science Theater 3000’s riff of Roger Corman’s 1958 snoreathon Teenage Caveman on my paleolithic iPod Classic. If it’s anything like the first half, all I gotta say is thanks for discovering the cure for insomnia, Mr. Corman!

The dinosaur is behind you on your left, fellows, No, your other left. Oh never mind.

157 #FergusonFireside  Dec 15, 2014 10:17:14pm

re: #152 #FergusonFireside

Haven’t heard that song in a year or so. My personal needed reconnect. So beautiful. Hope some listened and enjoyed. Good night Lizards. Keep WW in your thoughts.

158 BeachDem  Dec 15, 2014 10:17:31pm

re: #152 #FergusonFireside

Your Bright Baby Blues.

I took this song to heart. He was speaking to me. Then, when I was 15 or so and now.

[Embedded content]

Video

And I was certain this one was about me (although my high school “fast times” were well behind me when it came out.)

Jackson Browne - Somebody’s Baby (1982)

159 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 15, 2014 10:29:57pm

re: #131 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Dad was Navy. I only stayed there two weeks at which time we flew out to Midway aboard an R4D. Midway to Hawaii and Hawaii to CONUS was flown aboard a Martin Mars flying boat.

That’s how old I am.

In the early 1960s, while standing on the east bank of the St Johns River in Jacksonville opposite from NAS; I often watched Martin Mars flying boats take off from NAS.

Considering the river is approx 1 mile wide at that point, gave scale to just how big those flying boats were.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 15, 2014 10:30:44pm

re: #131 Higgs Boson’s Mate

a Martin Mars flying boat.

Woah…

161 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 15, 2014 10:50:55pm

re: #160 William Barnett-Lewis

My parents were careful to tell me about their time on Kwaj and about the flights back. The R4 (C47) had no cabin heat so my crib for that flight was a cardboard box lined with blankets and fitted with a light bulb that worked on aircraft power for additional heat. Twenty-one years later I flew from Kingsville, Texas, to NALF El Centro, CA in another R4. That one was only seven years younger than I was at the time. Good sightseeing on that hop because we had no cabin oxygen fitted and so had to fly through the mountain passes.

162 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Dec 15, 2014 11:49:24pm

In Philadelphia Pierre Robert on WMMR plays work force blocks at noonish. When he used to play Jackson Browne he would always play a couple songs that are familiar but I can’t quite remember enough words. These days he may get around to JB maybe once every couple months, but he makes sure to play the good stuff, instead of the hits. He almost always digs deep when he does the blocks. He found a vocal track for “Pressure” (just Mercury and Bowie) which was so cool.

163 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Dec 15, 2014 11:52:26pm

I had a bunch of interesting old-timers at my little old factory. One was a squadron mate of President George H. Bush (the smart one). Anyway another guy was a sergeant with a lot of varied postings. The funniest thing he remembers was when he was an MP at Ohmygoddo, when a second louie let a briefcase bust open in the wind. Nobody believed it could be an accident, and Sarge loved it because that guy was such a pompous ass.

164 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Dec 16, 2014 12:00:23am

OK, since you asked, the other guy was a turret gunner in a TBM Avenger. He remebered Bush as just a rich kid from New England. He also said the only thing worse than combat was taking off and landing on a jeep carrier. It wasn’t like one of those giant 700 foot Essex carriers, oh no! You had to get catapulted off the flight deck, and you were helpless on approach. All you could do was pray your pilot knew what he was doing. As far as cpmbat, he hardly ever brought any ammo home, but he doesn’t think he ever hit anything. As soon as you would hit the trigger, the entire plane would shake so bad you could barely even see your target. (My hunch is the plane didn’t shake so much as the turret did.) Another guy was a submariner who grew up in MN where you could walk across the Mississippi. But the coldest winter he ever spent was at a sub training base in WI. I guess you put a sub in the freezing water with no insulation, and you can work out the math. Anyway, once they were taking provisions and fish from a tender, he was pulled off his sub and put in another. The first sub never came back.

165 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 12:15:22am

Well, Russia’s 650 basis-point interest rate gambit doesn’t seem to have done all that much.

Currently on xe.com, $1 = 63 rubles.

Russia is about to find itself in a world of hurt, I think.

xe.com

166 freetoken  Dec 16, 2014 12:18:29am

MP3 Audio

167 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 12:23:14am

And….the ruble continues its downward trajectory. I just looked now, and it’s $1 = 63.4490. A few minutes ago, it was 63.3445.

168 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 12:30:48am

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

And….the ruble continues its downward trajectory. I just looked now, and it’s $1 = 63.4490. A few minutes ago, it was 63.3445.

Now at $1 = 63.4928. That’s within seven minutes.

169 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 12:43:35am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

Now at $1 = 63.4928. That’s within seven minutes.

Now at $1 = 64.6218. Looks like the ruble is in free fall.

170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 12:51:48am

Putin has done a good job of convincing his people that the West would have found grounds for economic sanctions against Russia because it felt threatened by Russia’s economic strength.

171 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 1:19:03am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Now at $1 = 64.6218. Looks like the ruble is in free fall.

Damn. Now at $1 = 65.1496.

What was the USD/Ruble exchange rate prior to the RCB’s rate hike? Wasn’t it like 67 to the Dollar or something like that?

172 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 1:49:25am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

66.2114

173 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 1:51:43am

re: #172 Alyosha

66.2114

Then they just slid below that.

$1 = 66.3104 right now.

174 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 2:00:06am

Anyhoo, back later. Off to teach.

175 freetoken  Dec 16, 2014 2:54:34am

After two days of searching I think I finally found a Wordpress theme that will work for me.

But… what a pain. Besides Wordpress I have some Wiki software I’m playing with, and a large custom application package (based in PHP with MySQL as the database engine) that I’m all trying to integrate, along with all the other stuff associated with websites and domains.

Computers were supposed to make our life easier.

176 freetoken  Dec 16, 2014 2:56:37am

MP3 Audio

177 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 3:04:26am

Another Lizard asked a little while ago whether the EU would have a plan to deal with the fallout associated with economic collapse in Russia. It seemed rhetorical at the time but I’m totally ignorant of how this might play out.
Even if it results in Putin being cast into the dosshouse, with the economy so dependent on oil, how might the Russian state recoup its losses?
And given its political atmosphere, would a Putin replacement be any better? Is there a viable challenger?
Are my questions still premature?

178 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 3:05:22am

Ruble at 69 now.

179 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 3:07:45am

re: #177 Alyosha

Putin is suffering no loss of popularity for his policies and the economic fallout resulting from them. He can still successfully blame it on the West and not on the inherent weakness of an economy so heavily dependent on one product.

And unfortunately, the best way to cover his tracks and maintain his popularity is to be even more belligerent towards his neighbors.

180 Decatur Deb  Dec 16, 2014 3:11:24am

Higgs Boson’s Mate

Kwajalein.

Uncle sent me there for a couple weeks. Got to cross the lagoon at night in an Army LCV.

181 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 3:11:40am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Ruble at 69 now.

Don’t think so. Not quite yet. Ruble is down US 1.6908 cents to 65.9280 (from Bloomberg)

182 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 3:12:39am

re: #181 Pip’s Squeak

I’m watching Bloomberg.

183 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 3:14:23am

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Excuse me, but look again.

184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 3:15:08am

re: #183 Pip’s Squeak

Excuse me, but look again.

don’t want to get dizzy…

185 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 3:17:11am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ok, now it says 68.56. You might be right after all.

186 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 3:17:50am

Should touch briefly on the siege in Sydney, I suppose, too.

Even the commercial media is treating this as a lone nut scenario which is heartening, though I’m certain the usual talkshow shock jocks are taking calls about immigration and the like suggesting we limit quotas to seekers from countries sporting more pallid complexions.
#illridewithyou is seriously sweet. Not on Twitter but it’s a thing and I’m glad of it. The Muslim community is as vulnerable now as its whacko jihadists are mad. I make a point of being extra-friendly to people who might be Muslim or even just mistaken for Muslim in my daily rounds. Don’t care if it panders to my own liberal sensitivities, I only know if I were in their shoes, stepping out after a night like yesterday would take real guts I don’t have. People can be dicks.
Most of the worst offenders of leaping to wrong conclusions about the loyalties of an entire community did not engage in the usual nonsense in my presence at least. It might be a good sign or word if my argumentative reputation has spread haha

187 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 3:19:56am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Putin is suffering no loss of popularity for his policies and the economic fallout resulting from them. He can still successfully blame it on the West and not on the inherent weakness of an economy so heavily dependent on one product.

And unfortunately, the best way to cover his tracks and maintain his popularity is to be even more belligerent towards his neighbors.

Kinda what I figured, but surely he is reliant on business interests for support. Where do the oligarchs think this policy will lead?

188 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 3:32:20am

re: #185 Pip’s Squeak

Ok, now it says 68.56. You might be right after all.

Yeah, it’s making small movements in the 68 - 69 range, but generally heading down. Bloomberg’s Moscow correspondent said the people are queuing up at currency exchanges to get dollars before the ruble tanks even further.

189 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 4:09:40am

Ruble heading for 76 80.

190 Decatur Deb  Dec 16, 2014 4:20:39am

Thought Barrett Brown’s case was settled, but he is facing another sentencing today:

abcnews.go.com

191 Timothy Watson  Dec 16, 2014 4:27:06am

re: #188 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Yeah, it’s making small movements in the 68 - 69 range, but generally heading down. Bloomberg’s Moscow correspondent said the people are queuing up at currency exchanges to get dollars before the ruble tanks even further.

How long until the Russian government passes some decree saying someone can only possess a certain amount of dollars?

192 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 4:28:58am

In times of hardship, Russia has produced some of the best existential writing. A new golden age has begun.

193 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 4:34:00am
194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 4:43:20am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

How long until the Russian government passes some decree saying someone can only possess a certain amount of dollars?

It’s already clamped down on Bitcoin exchanges in Russia, fearing a mass exodus of rubles into foreign currencies.

195 Alyosha  Dec 16, 2014 4:48:34am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It’s already clamped down on Bitcoin exchanges in Russia, fearing a mass exodus of rubles into foreign currencies.

Forgive the naïveté, but I’m guessing that Bitcoin was being used as a ‘non-fiat’ middleman that might have hidden the state currency-to-state currency transaction?

196 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 4:50:51am

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

Good version to be sure. But the original was soooo intense. I always think it’s an older song than it is, that it’s from the days of “Shoot Out The Lights” or even “I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight” time frame. But no, wiki says 1991…

Late to this, but RT did a series of videos for an iPad app where he showed how to play 1952 VBL and three other songs. The man is a guitar god! Here’s a preview of the lessons (the app is called “On the Path” IIRC)

Preview of Richard Thompson’s guitar lesson, “Folk Rock Guitar”, for advanced guitarists

197 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 4:51:17am

I guess Taliban had to respond to ISIS calling them MINO and “irrelevant”

198 Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2014 4:57:44am
199 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 5:08:39am

re: #195 Alyosha

Forgive the naïveté, but I’m guessing that Bitcoin was being used as a ‘non-fiat’ middleman that might have hidden the state currency-to-state currency transaction?

Definitely. China faced the same situation as Russia, and made it almost impossible to buy Bitcoin with a Chinese bank account or PayPal-like service. Both countries impose currency controls, while private citizens see more value in holding exchangeable currencies like pounds, euros or dollars. There are limits, for example, on how much Chinese renminbi you can exchange for dollars at an exchange counter, and the government requires your ID for every exchange. Bitcoin presents none of those restrictions.

200 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 5:22:49am

re: #198 Dr. Matt

I’m glad they somehow got those nominations through the senate.

201 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 5:26:52am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEETHOVEN!
Beethoven. Egmont Overture - Lorin Maazel, New York Philharmonic

202 Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2014 5:27:23am

re: #200 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I’m glad they somehow got those nominations through the senate.

Courtesy of Ted Cruz’s ignorance.

203 BishopX  Dec 16, 2014 5:37:41am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Granted the US has similar ID requirements and mandatory reporting rules for large transactions ($10,000+). They made it illegal to break up your transaction to boot.

Fun times.

204 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 5:43:04am

re: #202 Dr. Matt

Courtesy of Ted Cruz’s ignorance.

I’ll take a win wherever it comes from. :)

205 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 5:47:07am

re: #203 BishopX

Granted the US has similar ID requirements and mandatory reporting rules for large transactions ($10,000+). They made it illegal to break up your transaction to boot.

Fun times.

That was ostensibly to fight money laundering, tax evasion, drugs, and/or terrorism, depending on the “war on ….” of the day.

206 Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2014 5:47:45am
207 Belafon  Dec 16, 2014 5:54:13am

Where are you watching the Ruble?

208 petesh  Dec 16, 2014 5:54:46am

Last July 14, Bob Dylan did a live version of 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, which Richard Thompson (who was on the bill) was sad to miss because he’d already left. It just turned up! An audience phone recording, and not as great as either Richard’s or Sean’s or for that matter Del McCoury’s, but of interest to the interested:
yourlisten.com

209 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 16, 2014 5:57:08am

Anything goes when you need to cover up an unecessary killing.

Cops killed man at Walmart, then interrogated girlfriend

Not that I….I’ve never known him to have a gun,” she says.
Her response appears to upset the detective.
“Don’t tell me, ‘not that you know,’ because that’s the first thing that I realize that somebody’s not telling me the truth, when they say that kind of stuff,” Curd says.
By the end of the six-minute excerpt of the 90-minute interrogation posted by The Guardian, Thomas sobs as she buries her head in her hands.

210 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 6:00:12am

This will be known as yet another Black Tuesday in Russia.

211 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 6:01:52am

OK, I’m back. Last class of the year for that group, so that’s outta the way.

So, now the ruble is $1 = 72.9545.

Looks like the RCB’s interest-rate ploy did nothing. If anything, it might have made matters worse, as investors detected panic.

212 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 6:02:59am

re: #208 petesh

Last July 14, Bob Dylan did a live version of 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, which Richard Thompson (who was on the bill) was sad to miss because he’d already left. It just turned up! An audience phone recording, and not as great as either Richard’s or Sean’s or for that matter Del McCoury’s, but of interest to the interested:
yourlisten.com

Oh, I really wish Dylan wouldn’t do this kind of thing. He butchered the perfectly lovely Canadee-I-O by Nic Jones in a similar way. Compare and contrast:
004 Canadee-I-O, Nic Jones

Canadee-I-O (Remastered)

I really like Dylan, but sometimes he makes me wince.

213 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 6:05:14am

Once again, terrorists have struck at among the most defenseless of targets - kids in school. A Peshawar school was targeted by what appears to be a group of six Taliban terrorists. They’ve killed at least 126, and injuring nearly as many. Those figures are likely to rise as security forces sweep the buildings for further victims and terrorists. The terrorists also apparently wore suicide bomb vests and IEDs were also found on the grounds making the securing of the school all the more difficult.

It’s yet another signal that terrorists who are killing in the name of Islam are targeting Muslims who the groups don’t consider sufficiently Muslim. Either submit to their brand of Islam or suffer the consequences. Muslims who would rather go about daily business without fear that they or their kids will be slaughtered are the ones who are the victims here. Again. As it has been for most of the past decade. Islamic terrorists have been quite successful at killing fellow Muslims.

For Pakistan it’s still all about the frontier provinces and their autonomous relationship with Islamabad - the ISI and how it still looks the other way with certain groups, and that the Taliban simply sweep across a border with Afghanistan to their safe havens on either side of the border.

At the same time, a loon wolf terrorist killed two people in a Sydney standoff that wasn’t ever likely going to end in any other way than a hail of gunfire. That’s made more headlines than the Peshawar school massacre, even though the size and scope of the Peshawar attack is much more like Beslan. It’s like taking 5 Sandy Hook massacres and lumping them together in the span of a few hours.

Now, the Pakistani government response will likely be some reprisal raids into the frontier provinces, and/or rounding up the usual suspects in Peshawar or Islamabad, but a sustained campaign to root out the Taliban wont be forthcoming. Which means Pakistanis will be dealing with the specter of another such attack soon enough.

214 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 16, 2014 6:06:03am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

OK, I’m back. Last class of the year for that group, so that’s outta the way.

So, now the ruble is $1 = 72.9545.

Looks like the RCB’s interest-rate ploy did nothing. If anything, it might have made matters worse, as investors detected panic.

I am likewise approaching the end of the term, and looking forward to it, quite frankly.

Past 73 now.

215 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 6:09:49am

Good morning Lizards from a foggy Philadelphia. (Cold air - warm ground thing going on.)

Bit of local buzz with a man loose in the Philadelphia suburbs who has killed 6 and wounded 1 in the last couple of days. Basically shot his ex-wife, family, etc. and then is loose.

MSNBC Link to story

216 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 6:11:47am

re: #214 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I am likewise approaching the end of the term, and looking forward to it, quite frankly.

Past 73 now.

[JamaicanLimboVoice]How low can it (the ruble) go?[/JamaicanLimboVoice]

217 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 6:12:58am

re: #213 lawhawk

To a degree Pakistan is reaping what they sowed by supporting the extremists in the first place. That they would eventually turn on the Pakistani government as not being extreme enough itself was predictable.

That it ends up being taken out on the innocent, especially children, is doubly deplorable. Education is the key to making things better, and I think the Taliban knows that.

218 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 6:17:13am

OK, this video is more appropriate for the next thread down, but I wanted to share it here because that thread is dead:

Todd Snider (always great live, btw) performing “Is This Thing Working”

Is this thing working? Todd Snider

The song is about handling a bully.

221 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 6:27:48am

re:
#213

Once again, terrorists have struck at among the most defenseless of targets - kids in school. A Peshawar school was targeted by what appears to be a group of six Taliban terrorists. They’ve killed at least 126, and injuring nearly as many.

Beyond awful. What’s even the objective here? Terror, of course, but towards what end—control or greater control over this area? Ultimately control over Pakistan itself?

222 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 6:29:30am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Video: Cleveland Police Union Chief defends the shooting of a 12-year old, and ends with some advice for everyone if they want to live another day.

What’s simultaneously hilarious and sad is that wingnuts will nod along to that “advice.” The folks who were all in favor of an armed revolution in support of a dead-beat rancher will say that “thugs” should obey the cops or be shot dead. And if the cops give you no time to obey or shoot you even after you’ve obeyed, well they must have had a good reason to do it.

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 6:31:58am

re: #187 Alyosha

Kinda what I figured, but surely he is reliant on business interests for support. Where do the oligarchs think this policy will lead?

Oligarchs might wind up with a few less millions in their accounts, but will not really feel any squeeze, it will be taken out on the general populace and blamed on the West.

And if the oligarchs whine too much, they will find themselves staring at some charges of corruption and a long prison sentence.

224 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 6:32:36am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Police unions hate that people are questioning their authority to kill with impunity. These bastions of police culture demand apologies for t-shirts that proclaim that they stand united with those who were victims of excessive force, police brutality, or officer-involved shootings.

What the unions don’t want people to notice is that their own members’ t-shirts are far more worrisome and dangerous because the mindset that they’re all Judge Dredd is pervasive.

I get that police have a dangerous job and there’s a bit of gallows humor, but these types of statements (including those by the NYPD Midtown South captain quoting Col. Jessup’s speech in A Few Good Men as motivation) shows a complete disdain for the public that these people are sworn to protect.

There are no easy fixes, because it also involves repairing the damage done by politicians who pander to the police unions for votes and claiming to be tough on crime is a surefire winner with voters, even though crime rates are at historical lows in many parts of the country. The perception that we are unsafe is the bigger concern (so we must send Bearcats and MRAPs to tiny towns to protect their citizens from terror attacks - or guns with lots of guns, rather than addressing the underlying problem of people having too easy access to firearms and that they fall into the wrong hands. Or even worse, that the politicians write laws that enable bad behavior to abound - whether it’s the SYG or essentially giving law enforcement carte blanche to kill without fear of prosecution.

225 Timothy Watson  Dec 16, 2014 6:32:53am

re: #222 Targetpractice

What’s simultaneously hilarious and sad is that wingnuts will nod along to that “advice.” The folks who were all in favor of an armed revolution in support of a dead-beat rancher will say that “thugs” should obey the cops or be shot dead. And if the cops give you no time to obey or shoot you even after you’ve obeyed, well they must have had a good reason to do it.

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT SMALL ENOUGH TO SHOOT BLACKS DEAD IN THE STREETS!!1!

226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 6:34:32am

re:
#224

All very well said, LH.

227 petesh  Dec 16, 2014 6:35:39am

re: #212 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I really like Dylan, but sometimes he makes me wince.

Understandable; but Dylan does have an encyclopedic knowledge of song and he likes to pay his respects. He did 1952VBL once only, in one of the few recent gigs not circulating in decent sound, and I think I preferred it as a rumor.

228 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 6:36:04am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

And if the cops give you no time to obey or shoot you even after you’ve obeyed, well they must have had a good reason to do it.

And if there is some good reason in your past juvenile criminal records, CCJ and his loyal unpaid assistants will dig it up and dish it out

229 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 6:37:55am

re: #227 petesh

Understandable; but Dylan does have an encyclopedic knowledge of song and he likes to pay his respects. He did 1952VBL once only, in one of the few recent gigs not circulating in decent sound, and I think I preferred it as a rumor.

I agree. I was better off not knowing this had happened.

230 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 6:39:03am

re: #224 lawhawk

Police unions hate that people are questioning their authority to kill with impunity. These bastions of police culture demand apologies for t-shirts that proclaim that they stand united with those who were victims of excessive force, police brutality, or officer-involved shootings.

I am in favor of unions in general (saved my bacon a couple times now that I’m in one), but damned if the PU’s don’t fuck up a ham sandwich sometimes.

231 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 6:39:36am

There’s still conflicting information about how many were killed/injured in the school attack in Peshawar.

Tapper’s reporting 130 dead, 180+ injured as per a Pakistani minister.

Other sources now saying that nine terrorists were involved. It’s looking like the worst terrorist act in Pakistan’s history.

232 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 6:40:29am

re: #224 lawhawk

The reality of SYG is that it was simply an extension of Graham v. Connor to citizens, effectively granting them the same standard that cops operate under, which is that if they “reasonably” feel their force was necessary, then they’re immune from charges of excessive force. And since the courts are loath to argue what is “reasonable,” cops generally get the benefit of the doubt as to the motivation for their actions.

233 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 16, 2014 6:47:59am

re: #231 lawhawk

Terrible news to wake up to. Unfortunately, I don’t think this will even be enough to make Pakistan take this shit seriously.

234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 6:49:08am

re: #232 Targetpractice

The reality of SYG is that it was simply an extension of Graham v. Connor to citizens, effectively granting them the same standard that cops operate under, which is that if they “reasonably” feel their force was necessary, then they’re immune from charges of excessive force. And since the courts are loath to argue what is “reasonable,” cops generally get the benefit of the doubt as to the motivation for their actions.

We have already seen that prosecutors are used to working with police to obtain indictments/convictions, asking prosecutors to work against police is tantamount to a conflict of interest.

235 bratwurst  Dec 16, 2014 6:51:14am
236 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 6:54:41am

re: #233 GlutenFreeJesus

Terrible news to wake up to. Unfortunately, I don’t think this will even be enough to make Pakistan take this shit seriously.

Hard to say, but perhaps this might be enough to make Pakistan finally go after the Taliban - and other assorted extremists - in a major way.

This atrocity is wholly beyond the pale, and the sheer scale of it may finally light a fire under the Pakistani government’s ass to do something at last.

237 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 6:55:11am

So, the President doesn’t mention the Taliban, all while condemning a terror attack. This is what the right wing considers valid criticism? Hours after the attack when not all facts are in, they’re complaining that we haven’t named the group responsible.

It’s bizarro world in the right wing, when they were busy complaining that the Administration made statements re: Benghazi that were only later confirmed to be accurate (like the video being implicated in spurring the terrorists to act). So, in acting cautious, the right wing attacks because they haven’t identified the group.

The Taliban isn’t monolithic. There’s multiple factions, and there are some real bad groups among them.

There’s the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, which isn’t affiliated with the Mullah Omar Taliban in Afghanistan. And Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan has splintered into multiple factions after Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a drone strike a few years back, and one faction is still associated with the Mehsud clan though the current leader isn’t a Mehsud. There’s the Haqqani network. There’s Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, which has ties with the Taliban.

And the list is always mutating and changing.

238 darthstar  Dec 16, 2014 6:57:03am
239 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 6:58:29am

Browns’ Andrew Hawkins explains why he wore a ‘Justice for Tamir Rice and John Crawford’ T-shirt at

Boom.

“I was taught that justice is a right that every American should have. Also justice should be the goal of every American. I think that’s what makes this country. To me, justice means the innocent should be found innocent. It means that those who do wrong should get their due punishment. Ultimately, it means fair treatment. So a call for justice shouldn’t offend or disrespect anybody. A call for justice shouldn’t warrant an apology.

“To clarify, I utterly respect and appreciate every police officer that protects and serves all of us with honesty, integrity and the right way. And I don’t think those kind of officers should be offended by what I did. My mom taught me my entire life to respect law enforcement. I have family, close friends that are incredible police officers and I tell them all the time how they are much braver than me for it. So my wearing a T-shirt wasn’t a stance against every police officer or every police department. My wearing the T-shirt was a stance against wrong individuals doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons to innocent people.
I’m not an activist, in any way, shape or form. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred I keep my opinions to myself on most matters. I worked extremely hard to build and keep my reputation especially here in Ohio, and by most accounts I’ve done a solid job of decently building a good name. Before I made the decision to wear the T-shirt, I understood I was putting that reputation in jeopardy to some of those people who wouldn’t necessarily agree with my perspective. I understood there was going to be backlash, and that scared me, honestly. But deep down I felt like it was the right thing to do. If I was to run away from what I felt in my soul was the right thing to do, that would make me a coward, and I can’t live with that. God wouldn’t be able to put me where I am today, as far as I’ve come in life, if I was a coward.

“As you well know, and it’s well documented, I have a 2-year-old little boy. The same 2-year-old little boy that everyone said was cute when I jokingly threw him out of the house earlier this year. That little boy is my entire world. And the No. 1 reason for me wearing the T-shirt was the thought of what happened to Tamir Rice happening to my little Austin scares the living hell out of me. And my heart was broken for the parents of Tamir and John Crawford knowing they had to live that nightmare of a reality.

240 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 7:00:40am

Morning. Not good.

This world sucks sometimes. Pakistan. Australia. Pennsylvania. Cleveland Cops.

That’s all I got, and it is all too much.

241 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 7:00:42am

re: #237 lawhawk

They’re not white Christian - therefore they are monolithic in their evilness.
////

242 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:02:31am

re:
#237

“We stand with the people of Pakistan…to combat terrorism and extremism” -POTUS on terror attack in Pakistan

It took him too long to call it terrorism! Why didn’t he call it terrorism yesterday before it happened?!??!?!?!

243 Varek Raith  Dec 16, 2014 7:02:37am
244 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:02:56am

Watch #tcot explode in derpragegasms:

245 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:03:34am

re:
#239

Yep, awesome statement.

246 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 7:04:16am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Morning. Not good.

This world sucks sometimes. Pakistan. Australia. Pennsylvania. Cleveland Cops.

That’s all I got, and it is all too much.

Sometimes, all you got is all you got.

247 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:05:27am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Watch #tcot explode in derpragegasms:

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Oh yeah, I can practically hear the shrieking all the way over here in Europe.

248 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 7:07:17am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Watch #tcot explode in derpragegasms:

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Yeah, Jeb, no teasing us. Either announce you’re running or announce that you’re not running. Anything else might as well just read as “Send me money!”

249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:07:24am

re:
#244

Jeb! getting an early start.

Compared to Ted Cruz, Dr. Ben Carson, etc, Jeb! is a serious candidate. I don’t think the rubes will like that. Gonna be a crowded clown-car.

250 Varek Raith  Dec 16, 2014 7:09:18am

re: #235 bratwurst

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…What?
- Cat

251 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 7:12:42am

Does Jeb really have a chance? I mean, it’s the GOP, but c’mon.

252 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:13:44am

TCOT is in a fine frothy lather over Jeb’s Tweet

253 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:13:52am

re: #251 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Does Jeb really have a chance? I mean, it’s the GOP, but c’mon.

All he needs to do is what Romney did……let the wingnuttier candidates destroy each other. Last man standing wins the game.

254 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 7:13:55am

re: #249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#244

Jeb! getting an early start.

Compared to Ted Cruz, Dr. Ben Carson, etc, Jeb! is a serious candidate. I don’t think the rubes will like that. Gonna be a crowded clown-car.

Fine. Who’s the Bourbon and who the Carlist?

255 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:14:17am

re: #251 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Does Jeb really have a chance? I mean, it’s the GOP, but c’mon.

If the Kochs decide that he is their man? He is in.

256 Timothy Watson  Dec 16, 2014 7:14:32am
Ferguson grand jury witness has shockingly serious credibility issues
Monday morning, The Smoking Gun released a damning exposé on Sandra McElroy, the woman previously known only as Witness 40 in the Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s grand jury hearing. Her testimony-which conflicted with other witness accounts of Michael Brown having held his hands up in the air at the time of the shooting-perfectly corroborated Wilson’s account of the incident, and had been held up by Fox News personality Sean Hannity as evidence of Wilson’s innocence. In fact, it is very likely that her testimony was a major factor in Wilson not being indicted.

There had already been some questions as to McElroy’s reliability during the trial, due to some extremely racist statements on social media, in her journal and elsewhere, the fact that she was not on medication for her bipolar disorder, and the fact that she admitted to having had a serious head injury in a car accident which made her memory a little fuzzy.

McElroy testified that she saw, with her own eyes, Michael Brown charging into Darren Wilson. Which, let’s just say it, is an absurd thing that no one would do. She was also notable for her weird journal entry about how she was learning to not refer to black people as “n****ers” but as “people.”

However, it turns out she was almost definitely lying. In fact, there is almost no chance that she witnessed the encounter at all.

deathandtaxesmag.com

257 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:15:36am

re:
#252

GO AWAY! The LAST thing USA needs is a ANOTHER RINO such as yourself, who wants 2 get along with the other side!

Ah, another Christian American Patriot who loves America and loves Freedom. //

258 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 7:16:01am

And in the end the screaming teabagging wingnuts will vote for whoever the GOP nominates.

259 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 7:16:40am

re: #258 b.d.

And in the end the screaming teabagging wingnuts will vote for whoever the GOP nominates.

The risk is that many of them will stay home, as happened with Romney.

260 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 7:16:56am

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A RINO!!

says guy who voted for McCain and Romney.

261 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:17:30am

re: #258 b.d.

And in the end the screaming teabagging wingnuts will vote for whoever the GOP nominates.

Enough of them might choose to not vote or vote for third party candidates.

262 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:17:56am

Personally I find Hillary just as distasteful as the wingnuts find Jeb.

263 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:19:18am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The risk is that many of them will stay home, as happened with Romney.

Precisely.

If Jeb gets the nod in 2016, the Democrats could run a slightly stale loaf of bread for POTUS, and it’d win, because the wingnuts would simply sit out the election or go third-party.

264 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:21:21am

This troll hearts Jeb

265 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 7:22:19am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

Precisely.

If Jeb gets the nod in 2016, the Democrats could run a slightly stale loaf of bread for POTUS, and it’d win, because the wingnuts would simply sit out the election or go third-party.

I’m not so sure about that. If Bush vs Clinton his chances aren’t bad.

266 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 7:22:38am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Personally I find Hillary just as distasteful as the wingnuts find Jeb.

I wouldn’t go that far. But I’d like to see some fresh faces.

267 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 7:25:51am

So, Rand and Ted. Which one will try to become the Darling of the Tea?

268 Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2014 7:26:31am

re: #222 Targetpractice

re: #224 lawhawk

A very infuriating part of the interview is that the union chief kept referring to the 12 year old boy as merely a “male”. He NEVER ONCE called him “a boy”, “a child”, “a kid”, “a youth”, “a young man”, etc. The entire interview he dehumanized the victim by calling him a “male”.

270 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:29:09am

re:
#267

So, Rand and Ted. Which one will try to become the Darling of the Tea?
</blockquote?

Christie:Hey you there, you shut your mouth. Shut it! Less government. Hey you, you shut up! Sit down and shut up! Freedom. Shut up! I’m totally awesome. Sue me? Get in line! Shut up! Look at all the liberal stuff I vetoed! I tried to stop gay marriage in NJ. What else have I done? Shutup! I would never do anything for political purposes, like close a bridge! Sit down and shut up! I hate the media! Shut up!

271 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:29:22am

Which teaparty wingnut will Jeb choose for his running mate?

272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 7:29:52am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Personally I find Hillary just as distasteful as the wingnuts find Jeb.

And I would only vote for her begrudgingly and because I cannot imagine the current GOP nominating anyone I could even begin to vote for.

273 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 7:30:38am

re: #267 ObserverArt

So, Rand and Ted. Which one will try to become the Darling of the Tea?

After this past weekend, it’s definitely going to be Cruz. Come next fall, while all his opponents are telling the rabid and frothing base about how they’ll do everything Ted says he’ll do, but “effectively” and “responsibly,” he’ll strut on stage and tell the base he pissed off every prominent figure in DC just to stick to his promise to stand in the way of the administration. That he was the only one of them who actually put everything on the line to stop the Muslim Kenyan president from bringing in the legions of disease-ridden, terrorist anchor babies.

274 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:30:42am

Mr. Sionainn’s hair today.

275 Bear  Dec 16, 2014 7:33:14am

Re 274
UGH!

276 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 7:33:43am

re:
#274

What are the ornaments made of?

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 7:33:49am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Lots of whining until the alternate is clearly Hillary.

Unless the GOP/Tea Party decides to schism and toss out a 3rd party “true conservative” in order to scuttle any chance Jeb has.

278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 7:34:38am

re: #269 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Did you see the clip that scene was taken from (posted earlier today)

279 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:35:42am

I would really like to see Elizabeth Warren run but the time isn’t right. Maybe in 2020.

280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:38:35am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Did you see the clip that scene was taken from (posted earlier today)

Being the one who posted it, as it were, probably yes. ;)

281 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 7:41:32am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

Precisely.

If Jeb gets the nod in 2016, the Democrats could run a slightly stale loaf of bread for POTUS, and it’d win, because the wingnuts would simply sit out the election or go third-party.

In 2012 many Democrats expressed the same thoughts about Romney. They also thought that Romney’s being a Mormon would depress turnout among the evangelicals. Romney’s popular vote total was (rounding) 62 million to Obama’s 67 million. If that’s a depressed turnout then we’re in for some shit if Jeb runs. He’s a capable retail politician who managed to be Florida’s first two term Republican governor, superficially affable, and he has the Bush family connections. Compared to the inevitable clowns who will run against him in the primaries he’ll look like the soul of moderation.

283 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:43:09am

This made me LOL

284 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:43:31am

re: #276 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#274

What are the ornaments made of?

Sequins with a clear bead glued in the middle.

285 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 7:44:09am

re: #270 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#267

The New Jersey Dems need to circulate the pictures of Christie up in Jerry Jones’ box at the recent Eagles-Cowboys game. Not something to make him popular in south Jersey, or north Jersey for that matter, since “America’s Team” is generally hated with a vengeance by both areas.
/ ;P

286 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:44:18am

re: #275 Bear

Re 274
UGH!

You no like? ;-)

287 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:44:26am

re: #281 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In 2012 many Democrats expressed the same thoughts about Romney. They also thought that Romney’s being a Mormon would depress turnout among the evangelicals. Romney’s popular vote total was (rounding) 62 million to Obama’s 67 million. If that’s a depressed turnout then we’re in for some shit if Jeb runs. He’s a capable retail politician who managed to be Florida’s first two term Republican governor, superficially affable, and he has the Bush family connections. Compared to the inevitable clowns who will run against him in the primaries he’ll look like the soul of moderation.

Fair enough, and good points. Unlike Romney, I’d say Bush is a far better politician.

288 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 7:45:56am

re: #286 Sionainn

You no like? ;-)

Next time you should do a face, leaving hair to make the face’s hair and beard, with little glue-on goggle eyes.

Pure nightmare fuel.

289 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 7:46:01am

Bush v. Clinton

Because that worked out so well for the GOP last time.

290 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 7:46:01am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, and good points. Unlike Romney, I’d say Bush is a far better politician.

He is a better politician and he doesn’t look like a robot.

291 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:46:09am

re: #282 wrenchwench

Hey, WW! How are you?

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 7:46:25am

I see Obama has caused the price of a barrel of oil to drop below $60 — good distraction from Benghazi.
//// :p

293 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:46:56am

re: #286 Sionainn

No comment ;)

294 Bear  Dec 16, 2014 7:47:15am

re: #286 Sionainn

Lets just say I would not want that hair cut.

295 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:47:34am

And I’d like to take a moment to wish a Happy Hanukkah to all our Judaic Lizards out there.

296 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 7:47:40am

re: #282 wrenchwench

Hi, ww! Hope that your recovery is going well.

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 16, 2014 7:47:51am

re: #254 Pip’s Squeak

Fine. Who’s the Bourbon and who the Carlist?

Teddy’s filling the Bourbon role (willing to do anything and ally with anyone to gain power) and Santorum has been the Falangist all along (and don’t forget, he came in second last time, by GOP rule that means it’s his turn now).

Carlist? Probably only the Pauls are reactionary enough.

298 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 7:47:59am

I’m torn about who I’d vote for in 2016. Danarys Targaryen?

One of the surviving Starks?

Baratheon?

Tyrion Lannister (who may actually be a Targaryen)?

Click to Reveal

I’m going to go with Tyrion. If only because of this:

Peter Dinklage Game of Thrones Theme Song

and

299 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:48:21am

re: #290 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He is a better politician and he doesn’t look like a robot.

Yeah, I can’t really see any ‘Romneybot’ jokes with Jeb Bush.

300 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:48:44am

re: #288 iossarian

Next time you should do a face, leaving hair to make the face’s hair and beard, with little glue-on goggle eyes.

Pure nightmare fuel.

Ooh, a Santa next year! That would be awesome! As you can tell, I get into his school dress up days as much as he does. The students love it.

301 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 7:48:55am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, and good points. Unlike Romney, I’d say Bush is a far better politician.

IDK. Romney was competent enough to be a centrist Republican governor and to run various high-profile public and private projects.

There’s only so much you can do to disguise the fact that you’re going to screw over 90% of the population, keep 9% in a tenuous holding pattern, and hand the loot to yourself and the rest of the 1%. What it ultimately boils down to IMO is how many people actually a) figure this out, b) realize that it’s happening to them specifically, and c) aren’t placated by the fact that the brown people get screwed even worse.

302 wrenchwench  Dec 16, 2014 7:49:07am

re: #291 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Hey, WW! How are you?

I’m OK, but I have the hairdo that Bear doesn’t care for.

303 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 7:49:08am

re: #294 Bear

Lets just say I would not want that hair cut.

You water that tree with Rogaine.

304 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 16, 2014 7:49:37am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Personally I find Hillary just as distasteful as the wingnuts find Jeb.

Comes to Jeb v Hillary, I find out what it takes to emigrate to Germany or the Czech Republic…

305 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:50:13am

re: #293 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

No comment ;)

Wait until tomorrow when he’s dressing as the mayor of Whoville.

306 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:50:40am

re: #294 Bear

Lets just say I would not want that hair cut.

LOL. It’ll be gone tonight.

307 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:51:56am

It’s interesting how Putin, Medvedev and Lavrov have all said in the last few days that Donbass is the Ukrainian territory and should stay such.

308 #FergusonFireside  Dec 16, 2014 7:52:11am

re: #302 wrenchwench

I’m OK, but I have the hairdo that Bear doesn’t care for.

Hey WW! Good to see you. Hope you are mending up well.

309 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 7:53:08am

re: #307 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s interesting how Putin, Medvedev and Lavrov have all said in the last few days that Donbass is the Ukrainian territory and should stay such.

as long as it is destabilized, it is as good as Russian without the onus of having to annex it.

310 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 7:54:02am
311 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:54:04am

An anonymous official in the Russian govt said that the situation in the govt is close to panic and everyone understands that Putin is to blame.

slon.ru

312 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 7:55:00am

re: #301 iossarian

IDK. Romney was competent enough to be a centrist Republican governor and to run various high-profile public and private projects.

There’s only so much you can do to disguise the fact that you’re going to screw over 90% of the population, keep 9% in a tenuous holding pattern, and hand the loot to yourself and the rest of the 1%. What it ultimately boils down to IMO is how many people actually a) figure this out, b) realize that it’s happening to them specifically, and c) aren’t placated by the fact that the brown people get screwed even worse.

The GOP hasn’t bothered to hide any of the things that you mentioned for some time yet they now have the majority in both houses of Congress. Republican governors who fucked over their states were handily re-elected. When Democratic voters haven’t figured things out sufficiently to show up at the polls in a crucial mid-term I see little hope for voters in general to do so.

313 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 7:55:55am

Well, in local news, our airport in Ostrava - Leos Janecek Airport, now has the distinction of being the first airport in the Czech Republic to be connected to the city via railway, so now any would-be visitors to Ostrava can hop on a train at the airport and ride it to Ostrava Hlavni Nadrazi (main train station).

Cool.

The train station at the Ostrava Airport
314 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 7:56:05am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

I’m betting it has to do with Witness #40, who should have never been allowed to testify in the first place because she wasn’t at the scene, didn’t see anything, and is batcrap crazy.

315 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:57:00am

Lavrov: “there will be no second Crimea in Donbass. Moscow supports the territorial integrity of Ukraine.”

316 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 7:58:24am

Lavrov: “There are serious reasons to think that the US attempts a regime change in Russia.”

317 Flounder  Dec 16, 2014 7:58:39am

re: #311 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

After the unexpected decision of the Central Bank to raise its key interest rate on the night of 15 December 16 rubles on the Moscow stock exchange has weakened by about 20% against the dollar and the euro after the opening of trading. As a result, US dollar exchange rate broke the historical record, becoming higher than 80 rubles, and the European currency for the first time exceeded $ 100. By 18:37 Moscow time the dollar fell from a peak day to 72.2 ruble, the euro fell to 90.7 rubles. The situation in the foreign exchange market is critical, said on December 16 in the Russian Central Bank.

318 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 7:59:01am

re: #313 Dr Lizardo

Well, in local news, our airport in Ostrava - Leos Janecek Airport, now has the distinction of being the first airport in the Czech Republic to be connected to the city via railway, so now any would-be visitors to Ostrava can hop on a train at the airport and ride it to Ostrava Hlavni Nadrazi (main train station).

Cool.

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That’s definitely handy.

319 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 7:59:24am

re: #311 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

An anonymous official in the Russian govt said that the situation in the govt is close to panic and everyone understands that Putin is to blame.

slon.ru

Or is it understood in the government that Putin will throw someone else under the tram, and it’s not clear who that is going to be?
//

320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:00:00am

re: #315 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Lavrov: “there will be no second Crimea in Donbass. Moscow supports the territorial integrity of what’s left of Ukraine.”

321 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 8:01:37am

Funny thing: the currency exchange points in Russia mostly have two-digit displays (actually 4 digits, but the last two are for cents). I wonder what happens after Euro gets over 100 rubles.

322 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:03:08am

re: #318 Sionainn

That’s definitely handy.

Indeed it is. I’ve found that Ostrava is a city where I really don’t need to own a car, which is sort of nice. A yearly ticket for the transit system (four zones) is about $235. Which is a lot cheaper than owing a car, to put it mildly.

And with a tram and bus stop right out the front door of my apartment building, it makes life quite easy.

323 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 8:05:36am

re: #319 Feline Fearless Leader

Or is it understood in the government that Putin will throw someone else under the tram, and it’s not clear who that is going to be?
//

A cabal of traitors will be identified. They will be accused of undermining the Russian economy and there will be implications that they’re working with the US and/or the EU. They’ll be tried and trammed.

324 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:06:13am

re: #318 Sionainn

That’s definitely handy.

And this is the type of train that will be used to connect - the ‘City Elefant’, or CD Class 471 train.

325 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 8:08:08am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

Indeed it is. I’ve found that Ostrava is a city where I really don’t need to own a car, which is sort of nice. A yearly ticket for the transit system (four zones) is about $235. Which is a lot cheaper than owing a car, to put it mildly.

And with a tram and bus stop right out the front door of my apartment building, it makes life quite easy.

My family who lived in San Francisco never had a car. They were able to get everywhere they needed to with mass transit. In order to get a bus from my house, I’d have to walk 3 miles and then it would take me forever to get wherever I wanted to go.

326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:08:11am

re: #321 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Funny thing: the currency exchange points in Russia mostly have two-digit displays (actually 4 digits, but the last two are for cents). I wonder what happens after Euro gets over 100 rubles.

just paste a 1 in front of the digital display…

327 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:09:07am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

Indeed it is. I’ve found that Ostrava is a city where I really don’t need to own a car, which is sort of nice. A yearly ticket for the transit system (four zones) is about $235. Which is a lot cheaper than owing a car, to put it mildly.

And with a tram and bus stop right out the front door of my apartment building, it makes life quite easy.

I have friends who live in major US cities (Chicago and Philly) who don’t even own cars. Living out here in rural ‘Murika, I don’t get that choice. Sigh.

328 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:09:28am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

Indeed it is. I’ve found that Ostrava is a city where I really don’t need to own a car, which is sort of nice. A yearly ticket for the transit system (four zones) is about $235. Which is a lot cheaper than owing a car, to put it mildly.

And with a tram and bus stop right out the front door of my apartment building, it makes life quite easy.

The opposite of Detroit, then.

329 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:10:05am

re: #325 Sionainn

My family who lived in San Francisco never had a car. They were able to get everywhere they needed to with mass transit. In order to get a bus from my house, I’d have to walk 3 miles and then it would take me forever to get wherever I wanted to go.

The worst part of Mass Transit is grocery shopping, IMHO.

330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:10:34am

re: #327 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I have friends who live in major US cities (Chicago and Philly) who don’t even own cars. Living out here in rural ‘Murika, I don’t get that choice. Sigh.

Much the same for the village I live in along the Rhine, I would be really lost without a car. Things would look different if I moved into Frankfurt, where my girlfriend lives 250 yards from the nearest subway station.

331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:11:15am

re: #329 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The worst part of Mass Transit is grocery shopping, IMHO.

Girlfriend has grocery stores within walking distance

332 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:12:31am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Much the same for the village I live in along the Rhine, I would be really lost without a car. Things would look different if I moved into Frankfurt, where my girlfriend lives 250 yards from the nearest subway station.

333 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:12:40am

re: #325 Sionainn

My family who lived in San Francisco never had a car. They were able to get everywhere they needed to with mass transit. In order to get a bus from my house, I’d have to walk 3 miles and then it would take me forever to get wherever I wanted to go.

That sucks.

I have to say that Ostrava has a very well-integrated public transit system, and several of the lines run 24 hours a day, including public holidays. There was a recent expansion so now I can get from part of town to South Ostrava via tram - previously, it required two bus transfers and a hop on a tram to get to South Ostrava…..now it’s a straight shot. I’m not too sure who’s running DPO (Ostrava Transit Authority) but I will say they’re doing a hell of a good job.

334 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:13:09am
335 Sionainn  Dec 16, 2014 8:13:15am

re: #329 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The worst part of Mass Transit is grocery shopping, IMHO.

Oh, yeah, that would suck.

336 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:15:46am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

And this is the type of train that will be used to connect - the ‘City Elefant’, or CD Class 471 train.

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Do those only run on trunk lines?

337 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:16:35am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Girlfriend has grocery stores within walking distance

I do as well, including a brand-new grocery store that opened two months ago - a rebuild of a ratty old Communist-era shopping center that had fallen into disrepair. I have three grocery stores within a maximum 10-minute walk, and three convenience stores very close by - including one on the ground floor of my apartment building.

338 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:16:44am

Meanwhile:

339 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:17:03am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Girlfriend has grocery stores within walking distance

One of my exes had a whole paycheck within walking distance. It was still a PITA to carry shit back to the apt.

340 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 16, 2014 8:17:10am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

He refuses to refer to it as “lies from the pit of hell”, therefore he is a RINO

341 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:17:54am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

That face just screams dudebro. Who is Barrett Brown again?

342 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:18:15am

re: #336 Feline Fearless Leader

Do those only run on trunk lines?

I believe so….they’re only used in Ostrava and Prague, though I understand DeutscheBahn has recently bought some as well, to be delivered next year or so. They’re made by Skoda Wagonette, a subsidiary of the legendary Skoda Works.

343 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:18:36am

re: #327 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I have friends who live in major US cities (Chicago and Philly) who don’t even own cars. Living out here in rural ‘Murika, I don’t get that choice. Sigh.

You can get by in the major cities in the US with good transit, or simply having most amenities withing walking or short bus ride distance. And some of these cities are also getting more bicycle friendly as well. (Though I still think there is a serious shortage of bicycle parking/locking space.)

I have mainly kept my car due to weekly trips that would be annoying via mass transit, and also the periodic visits to my brother who resides about 300 miles away.

344 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 16, 2014 8:18:55am

Jeb “”Smith’s”” Pros and Cons
What if the names were not the familiar names so many detest?

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

345 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:20:13am

re: #343 Feline Fearless Leader

You can get by in the major cities in the US with good transit, or simply having most amenities withing walking or short bus ride distance. And some of these cities are also getting more bicycle friendly as well. (Though I still think there is a serious shortage of bicycle parking/locking space.)

I have mainly kept my car due to weekly trips that would be annoying via mass transit, and also the periodic visits to my brother who resides about 300 miles away.

My friend in Chicago uses Zip cars for his rare trips. Not sure it would be the same if he took weekly trips, instead of one every three months.

346 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 16, 2014 8:21:19am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

Hope I’m wrong, but I won’t be holding my breath. Those in Pakistan that are protecting the Taliban and other terrorist organizations won’t do anything until they are personally affected. That’s my take on things there anyway. It’s all about the $.

347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:21:42am

re: #344 Rightwingconspirator

Jeb “”Smith’s”” Pros and Cons
What if the names were not the familiar names so many detest?

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Except that’s a bullshit hypothetical. You can’t separate the man from the name.

348 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:23:38am

re: #345 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

My friend in Chicago uses Zip cars for his rare trips. Not sure it would be the same if he took weekly trips, instead of one every three months.

If I didn’t go play cribbage on Monday nights I would probably consider something like Zip Car. Adjust weekend runs to every other week, and a rental would work for the longer trips. Would have to keep insurance of course*, but would save some cash currently spent on parking space.

* - A little cheaper since I think it would mainly be liability and not that much on the vehicle itself. Flip side is not having a vehicle (Forester) with known cargo capacity on-hand and pre-loaded with some convenient items like a bike rack.

349 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 8:23:39am

re: #312 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The GOP hasn’t bothered to hide any of the things that you mentioned for some time yet they now have the majority in both houses of Congress. Republican governors who fucked over their states were handily re-elected. When Democratic voters haven’t figured things out sufficiently to show up at the polls in a crucial mid-term I see little hope for voters in general to do so.

But I think that’s explained by my points b) and c) - a lot of people either don’t realize that they’re in the 90% getting screwed, or are simply keen to see the brown people get screwed harder.

350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 8:24:13am

re:
#338

Well I’m glad the Intercept has something to do today.

351 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:24:33am

re: #341 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That face just screams dudebro. Who is Barrett Brown again?

Drug addict, criminal, dudebro.

352 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:30:11am

re: #329 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The worst part of Mass Transit is grocery shopping, IMHO.

I consider it a blessing to have a Trader Joe’s about 5 blocks away. Walking distance with two loaded canvas grocery bags. I do bulkier purchases on weekends using the car and visiting a Wegman’s out in the Philly suburbs.

There is a Whole Foods in the area as well, but I’ve never been in there since I have no intention of giving them any of my business.

Also a 7-11 on my block and a another deli/grocery a few blocks away if I need something quickly. It strikes me that 7-11s now stock a lot less variety of items than they used to, or at least it appears that way to me.

353 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:35:08am
354 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:36:11am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

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That quote is just so fucking typical of how Republicans approach AGW. “Oh it may be real but I’m going to use this time to bitch about the left rather than actually address the issue because I’m a sorry right wing shit.”

355 BigPapa  Dec 16, 2014 8:37:05am

I got 24hr banned from Facebook for calling a racist shitheel a racist shitheel.

I guess the cretins make a game of posting offensive shit then try to get Facebook to ban or harass them, using the system.

My bad.

356 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 8:37:46am

re: #349 iossarian

But I think that’s explained by my points b) and c) - a lot of people either don’t realize that they’re in the 90% getting screwed, or are simply keen to see the brown people get screwed harder.

One of the reasons that the 90% don’t know they’re getting screwed is because the media doesn’t tell them. I don’t see that changing. As for the others you mentioned, as long as white people have coat hangers with which to roast sparrows over an open fire and brown people don’t have them those white people will vote Republican.

357 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 8:38:34am
358 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 8:39:43am

Regarding Shaun Kings piece, while I agree there is a growing amount of evidence that a new grand jury should be convened, I think it is a stretch to say that Witness #40 and Bob McCulloch “colluded”.

It could be true the McCulloch used Witness #40 as a way to get Wilson off, but that doesn’t mean they conspired or had a secret understanding of how they would do it.

359 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 16, 2014 8:40:17am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

The whole situation there just keeps getting more sickening.

360 #FergusonFireside  Dec 16, 2014 8:40:20am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

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They thought we wouldn’t pay attention.

Fraud fraud fraud.

361 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 16, 2014 8:40:50am

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Except that’s a bullshit hypothetical. You can’t separate the man from the name.

I disagree, especially at this early point. It’s just a thought experiment not a pitch to vote for him. I might do the same with the upcoming Clinton piece. It’s just a parsing of issues to reduce noise and fury.

362 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 8:41:13am

Manhunt continues for former Marine who appears to have killed six relatives yesterday morning. Search area expanded.

Stone’s former wife, 33-year-old Nicole Stone, was found dead in her apartment after a neighbor saw Stone fleeing just before 5 a.m. with their two young daughters, authorities said.

Police then discovered five more people killed in two other houses: Nicole Stone’s mother, grandmother, sister, brother-in-law and 14-year-old niece. A 17-year-old nephew was wounded in the head and left clinging to life.

The daughters were later were found safe with Stone’s neighbors.

363 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 8:41:18am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

And this is the type of train that will be used to connect - the ‘City Elefant’, or CD Class 471 train.

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How long a ride is it from the airport to the city? That train looks like it could comfortable for long rides…maybe too comfy for short.

364 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 8:41:29am

re: #356 Higgs Boson’s Mate

One of the reasons that the 90% don’t know they’re getting screwed is because the media doesn’t tell them. I don’t see that changing. As for the others you mentioned, as long as white people have coat hangers with which to roast sparrows over an open fire and brown people don’t have them those white people will vote Republican.

Yes - I guess my original point was that I think Romney bagged the votes that Republican Square-Jawed Hero Candidate X is going to bag. Not convinced that Jeb would do much better, or rather that he’ll somehow occlude the facts that keep a majority of the Presidential turnout from voting R.

365 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 16, 2014 8:41:45am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

Send all the damn deniers to Kiribati for a month.

usatoday.com

366 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:43:10am

re: #362 lawhawk

Manhunt continues for former Marine who appears to have killed six relatives yesterday morning. Search area expanded.

Co-worker of mine lives about 100 yards from the ex-wife’s apartment. Our department has been following developments in the case since 2-3 of them live in that general area.

367 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 8:43:23am

re: #363 ObserverArt

How long a ride is it from the airport to the city? That train looks like it could comfortable for long rides…maybe too comfy for short.

It’s about 16 miles from the airport to the city center.

368 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:43:48am

What will happen with Jeb will be the same thing that happened with McCain and Romney. Bush will end up repudiating a lot of his past stances to appear more right wing to win the nomination and then try to move desperately to the center in the GE while at the same time moving to the right by picking a right wing favorite for his VP. Honestly, it’s a tough road for any Republican candidate. Jeb’s own brother only won the EC by one state in both his election and I’m not even going to bore us all by bringing up the Florida controversy from 14 years ago.

369 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 8:43:54am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

The opposite of Detroit, then.

Motor City. Trains were a no-no.

Columbus is the same. Can’t live without a car.

370 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:46:13am

re: #365 GlutenFreeJesus

Send all the damn deniers to Kiribati for a month.

usatoday.com

Ha that would be fun.

371 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 8:46:42am

re: #358 Franklin

I don’t think there was collusion, but a willful disregard for way grand juries are typically run. They included a witness of a dubious background in support of Wilson’s version, even though if your job is to secure an indictment, you’d put on only those witnesses who corroborate a version of events that indicate a crime occurred.

There’s a case for perjury against the witness for lying and obstructing justice.

Now, if the prosecutor knew that this witness was unreliable and wasn’t there and that they were going to commit perjury, then we’ve got a completely different ballgame regarding his actions. No evidence of that so far, but the more we learn about witness 40, and how the prosecutor made her testimony central to disputing that Brown had his hands up, the more it makes McCullough’s office look complicit.

Given what we know of this witness so far, it’s likely the defense would never put this person on the stand because the cross would be so damaging that it would show just how desperate Wilson was that they had to invent details to claim justification.

372 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:47:22am

re: #369 ObserverArt

Motor City. Trains were a no-no.

Columbus is the same. Can’t live without a car.

Be easier to list the US cities where you can get by without a car fairly easily than those where you have to have one.

373 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:47:34am

Seems to me that McCulloch did everything possible not to get an indictment and frankly it stinks to high heaven since as a prosecutor, that’s his fucking job.

374 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:48:10am

There’s a special place in figurative hell for people like McCulloch and Sandy who go out of their way to screw people because of their own prejudices.

375 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:49:17am

re: #369 ObserverArt

Motor City. Trains were a no-no.

Columbus is the same. Can’t live without a car.

GM colluded to destroy public streetcars in Detroit.

376 Ace-o-aces  Dec 16, 2014 8:49:19am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Watch #tcot explode in derpragegasms:

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I guess CCJ’s threat to reveal his mistress didn’t stop Jeb.

377 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 8:49:45am

re: #371 lawhawk

Exactly. That’s the bitch of the issue. The two key witnesses (#40 and Wilson) would never have taken the stand in the jury trial.

378 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:51:28am

re: #376 Ace-o-aces

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I guess CCJ’s threat to reveal his mistress didn’t stop Jeb.

Heh. I am excited that I will actively explore the possibility of running for the president of the United States. That statement sounds funny to me. I don’t underestimate Jeb. After all two term governor in a swing state and I think he is much more intelligent than his older brother but at the same time, his older brother is going to be something on his back whether he likes it or not and that will both help and hurt him.

379 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 8:53:09am

JEB: EVERYBODY NOW KNOWS MY OLDER BROTHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT MORE PERFECT TIME TO SEND OUT FEELERS!!

380 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 8:53:15am

re: #364 iossarian

Yes - I guess my original point was that I think Romney bagged the votes that Republican Square-Jawed Hero Candidate X is going to bag. Not convinced that Jeb would do much better, or rather that he’ll somehow occlude the facts that keep a majority of the Presidential turnout from voting R.

Jeb is smart enough to know that he will lose some primaries to the nutters. He’s also smart enough to know that those who vote for the nutters are so invested in their favorite nutter that they will vote for that person alone in a primary - no matter what. It’s possible that no single nominee will arrive at the convention with sufficient delegates to win the nomination on the first ballot. If that happens then Jeb, if he runs, could take the prize.

381 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 16, 2014 8:53:47am

re: #361 Rightwingconspirator

I disagree, especially at this early point. It’s just a thought experiment not a pitch to vote for him. I might do the same with the upcoming Clinton piece. It’s just a parsing of issues to reduce noise and fury.

It’s the same thing with Hillary. The name is part of the person. And we don’t live in a monarchy.

382 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 8:55:24am

re: #381 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

It’s the same thing with Hillary. The name is part of the person. And we don’t live in a monarchy.

Though it appears that a lot of people in this country want to.
//

383 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 8:55:36am
384 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 8:55:54am

re: #379 The Vicious Babushka

JEB: EVERYBODY NOW KNOWS MY OLDER BROTHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT MORE PERFECT TIME TO SEND OUT FEELERS!!

Rectal feeding or writing a check to Jeb?

decisions, decisions, decisions…

385 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 8:56:33am

re: #380 Higgs Boson’s Mate

All good points. Looking forward to primary season. The Nutcracker Suite, if you will.

386 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:56:39am

re: #384 b.d.

Rectal feeding or writing a check to Jeb?

decisions, decisions, decisions…

Do I get lower taxes if I send the check to Jeb?

387 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 8:57:24am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

Do I get lower taxes if I send the check to Jeb?

Yes! And the rectal feeding happens to the other guy.

388 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 8:58:52am

re: #379 The Vicious Babushka

JEB: EVERYBODY NOW KNOWS MY OLDER BROTHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT MORE PERFECT TIME TO SEND OUT FEELERS!!

Is it then fair game to hold against Hillary the fact that her husband signed the CFMA and DOMA into law?

389 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 8:59:37am

re: #387 iossarian

Yes! And the rectal feeding happens to the other guy.

RECTAL FEEDING IS TOO MUCH LIKE WELFARE! NO GVT FUNDED RECTAL FEEDING TO TEH MOOCHING TERRERISTS!

390 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 8:59:38am

I’m interested in seeing who Jeb surrounds himself with. For example, I knew Mitt was going to pander to the far right when he brought Bolton on board as his FP adviser and Kobach as his immigration adviser. And I agree that the name is a big part of the candidate. The candidates who have ties to past candidates directly through marriage or direct kinship in the case of Clinton or Bush have tried to use their names to get themselves advanced in the past. It’s only fair play for their detractors to point out that we’re tired of them. Honestly, I really do feel that Hillary Clinton’s time has come and gone. She was a great first lady, senator, and Secretary of State but I really do feel that it’s time for someone else.

391 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:00:27am

re: #388 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Is it then fair game to hold against Hillary the fact that her husband signed the CFMA and DOMA into law?

Didn’t he also sign the repeal of Glass Steagal? I mean I don’t hate the Clintons but I don’t put them on a pedestal either.

392 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 9:02:36am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Didn’t he also sign the repeal of Glass Steagal? I mean I don’t hate the Clintons but I don’t put them on a pedestal either.

I’d like magical democratic socialist candidate X to win the Presidential election and for the labor/farmer party of Iowa and Minnesota to sweep Congress, but ultimately I’m voting for the people with the (D) just after their names. Hillary will be just fine.

393 KerFuFFler  Dec 16, 2014 9:03:01am

re: #235 bratwurst

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Thanks, I needed that!

394 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 9:03:28am
395 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:04:06am

re: #392 iossarian

I’d like magical democratic socialist candidate X to win the Presidential election and for the labor/farmer party of Iowa and Minnesota to sweep Congress, but ultimately I’m voting for the people with the (D) just after their names. Hillary will be just fine.

I’d support her in the GE don’t get me wrong but I do think we can do better and yes more progressive as a nominee and still win. I’m just saying that the Clintons don’t give me the warm fuzzies like they do for some.

396 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:04:23am

re: #394 lawhawk

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Good.

397 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:05:27am

re: #341 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That face just screams dudebro. Who is Barrett Brown again?

Former lizard.

398 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:06:04am

re: #388 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Is it then fair game to hold against Hillary the fact that her husband signed the CFMA and DOMA into law?

The wingnuts can’t see past BENGHAZI!!!!1!!1!!!!1!!!TY

399 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 9:07:21am

re: #394 lawhawk

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CNN Typo:

The family alleges, among other things, that the police officers did not use due diligence to determine that Wright wasn’t a threat; that the officers didn’t give him enough time to put down the weapon; and that Walmart was negligent because the air rifle had been resting on a shelf, unpackaged, for at least two days, the family’s lawyers said Tuesday.

400 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 9:08:47am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

I’d support her in the GE don’t get me wrong but I do think we can do better and yes more progressive as a nominee and still win. I’m just saying that the Clintons don’t give me the warm fuzzies like they do for some.

Oh, totally. Bill was basically your typical center-right Democrat and I have no illusions that Hillary would be much different.

401 Slap  Dec 16, 2014 9:09:41am

A little late, but….

I am in TOTAL agreement about the wonders of Richard Thompson’s playing. I’ve been fortunate enough to have seen him solo more than a dozen times, and with his bands on three occasions. As a solo performer, there are few who can come close (Bruce CocKburn is his equal, IMO); with a band, that incredible electric playing is utterly astonishing. The last two times I saw the band (at the Warfield in SF), it included Dave Mattacks, Pete Zorn and Danny Thompson. THe show opened with RT solo, then in duet with DT. Golden memories, those.

(My first RT show was in Berlin in ‘84 at the Metropol. He was part of what was billed as “The New Acoustic Guitar Trio”, with Steve Morse of the Dixie Dregs and Deep Purple and none other than Mr. Dave (Lindley). Odd pairing that worked well.)

And coming full circle within the thread….the relevance of Jackson Browne’s lyrics is sadly timeless. Here’s one of his deepest, performed by the extraordinary Richie Haves (RIP). “Lives in the Balance”, from a Mountain Stage performance:

Lives In The Balance

402 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:10:36am

Hillary hasn’t even taken a stand on many issues. She is just waiting to see which way the wind blows.

403 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 9:11:18am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Didn’t he also sign the repeal of Glass Steagal? I mean I don’t hate the Clintons but I don’t put them on a pedestal either.

He signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999. GLBA effectively gutted Glass-Stiegal by enabling banks to act as investment houses and insurance companies as well as banks. A rider in the current budget bill will enable the banks to invest FDIC-insured deposit funds. This completes the evisceration of GS and it’s dispiriting that the bills that did it will both have been signed into law by Democratic presidents.

404 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:14:05am

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999. GLBA effectively gutted Glass-Stiegal by enabling banks to act as investment houses and insurance companies as well as banks. A rider in the current budget bill will enable the banks to invest FDIC-insured deposit funds. This completes the evisceration of GS and it’s dispiriting that the bills that did it will both have been signed into law by Democratic presidents.

Gotcha. Thank you. I mean I hope I am not sounding like a purist but that is something that bothers me. I know the Dems can’t and won’t be LoC on every issue but a lot of people understandably blame the fall out from that got the Financial Crisis.

405 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 9:15:05am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary hasn’t even taken a stand on many issues. She is just waiting to see which way the wind blows.

No way!

406 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:15:46am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary hasn’t even taken a stand on many issues. She is just waiting to see which way the wind blows.

She needs to take stronger stances I think to get people genuinely excited about her. I mean right now I see people excited for her but I think many of them just see a name. I don’t know if any of the liberal stalwarts are the answer but to the credit of people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, at least they’re standing for something. I have no issue with voting for Clinton but if you want to get people excited for you, please stand for something.

407 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:16:17am
408 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:16:38am
409 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:17:52am

Combining posts 407-408, rectal soy eggnog for the Peshawar terrorists.

(passes out airline vomit bags to everyone)

410 iossarian  Dec 16, 2014 9:18:28am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

I understand that this is real moral outrage, but unfortunately this is exactly the Dick Cheney argument in support of torture. “These people are monsters.”

411 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:19:04am

Paradoxically, that’s one thing that the lefties and righty types can agree on. They want their nominees to stand for something. And it’s annoying really because the so called centrists. Not saying real centrists don’t exist mind you but some of these types see the disliking of Clinton and Bush by liberals/conservatives as some sort of proof that they must be alright because “Hey the TP/Left despise them.” To me personally, I find someone like Jeb a lot more annoying than Ted Cruz because Jeb as Mitt and McCain in the past demonstrated, they will say anything to any audience.

412 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:19:29am

Ahh, reading Duginites is always interesting. Here’s a certain “Svetlana”:

vk.com

“Why doesn’t Putin make an official statement and say that in case of the American military support [of Ukraine] Russia won’t be struggling against the US on the Ukrainian territory but will simply perform a nuclear attack on the US and destroy that country?”

413 Ace-o-aces  Dec 16, 2014 9:20:20am
414 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:21:08am
415 Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2014 9:22:40am

re: #265 Pip’s Squeak

I’m not so sure about that. If Bush vs Clinton his chances aren’t bad.

Hillary is going to be so demonized by the right the second she announces she’s running that my money would be on a Bush win. I don’t think she has any idea of the total shitstorm that will come her way if she runs, and a lot of it will stick.

This, among many other reasons, is why I don’t want her to run.

416 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:23:26am

Personally, I would to it to the torturers themselves. But even that should not be allowed.

417 prairiefire  Dec 16, 2014 9:23:56am

re: #415 Skip Intro

It will be interesting.

419 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 9:26:50am

re: #415 Skip Intro

Hillary is going to be so demonized by the right the second she announces she’s running that my money would be on a Bush win. I don’t think she has any idea of the total shitstorm that will come her way if she runs, and a lot of it will stick.

This, among many other reasons, is why I don’t want her to run.

But, she’s been under fire! Doesn’t that count for something?
/snark

420 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 9:27:01am

Jeb Bush and his capital investment company have set up several companies that, despite being registered to his office and being approved for “any and all lawful business,” have seemingly not yet done anything.

421 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:27:06am

“Went out for a smoke - dollar rose by 4 rubles.

Don’t smoke.”

422 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:28:02am

I guess this answers my question.

423 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:28:23am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What is it with Republican establishment hacks and shady business deals? Ah yes par the course but those of who us who use public assistance are “takers.”

424 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 9:30:30am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

Not surprisingly, Chuckles and Jim Hoft among others spewed many of those falsities around with reckless abandon. Because it’s what they do.

425 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 9:30:32am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary hasn’t even taken a stand on many issues. She is just waiting to see which way the wind blows.

I know what you are saying, but sadly taking a stand too early can lead to many problems with the media (FOX, MSNBC) and those other candidates you may be facing.

It really seems the best way to run any more is to be sort of neutral and speak in generalities at least through the primaries. It is about what you stand against more then stand for.

I for once would like to see a true firebrand type of candidate. This country could use a good political kick in the ass.

426 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 9:32:39am

re: #425 ObserverArt

I know what you are saying, but sadly taking a stand too early can lead to many problems with the media (FOX, MSNBC) and those other candidates you may be facing.

It really seems the best way to run any more is to be sort of neutral and speak in generalities at least through the primaries. It is about what you stand against more then stand for.

I for once would like to see a true firebrand type of candidate. This country could use a good political kick in the ass.

It seems to me that everything Hillary has done since 2001 has been to add bagatelles to her CV.

427 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 9:33:25am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

428 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 9:34:42am

re: #422 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I guess this answers my question.

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I’m pretty sure right about now there’s gotta be some panic going around in Russian government circles, if for nothing else, that someone’s gonna get to experience this first hand:

Darth Vader you have failed me for the last time full scene HD 1080p

I wonder how you say, “You have failed me for the last time” in Russian.

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 9:37:13am

Feline Overlord Staff Recruitment Center opens in NYC.

Meow Parlour opens

430 Teukka  Dec 16, 2014 9:38:31am

re: #412 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Ahh, reading Duginites is always interesting. Here’s a certain “Svetlana”:

vk.com

“Why doesn’t Putin make an official statement and say that in case of the American military support [of Ukraine] Russia won’t be struggling against the US on the Ukrainian territory but will simply perform a nuclear attack on the US and destroy that country?”

*blinks*

WOAH.

Is Vlad & the Kremlin Crew losing the final bearing to reality?

I mean, any use of nukes other than a retaliation in kind for a use of N/B/C weapons on you will sink its vicious fangs into you pretty quickly, it may be a military success, but it will most decidedly be an epic flop in terms of PR.

Basically, look at the prevalence of various camera technology, especially in cellphones, today as opposed to back in 1945.

Click to Reveal

There would most likely be multiple camera angles of the blast itself and its immediate effects, as well as horrific blast and burn injuries. Not to mention hours upon hours of acute radiation syndrome victims.

All in glorious 24-bit color HD. Remember the “Sarah’s nightmare” scene in Terminator 2? Now realize that sequence is both short and sanitized. Yes. SANITIZED.

Basically, if the Kremlin takes Dugin seriously, they will all too late discover that the only thing they managed was to kick a grizzly squarely in the balls.

431 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 9:39:12am

re: #428 Dr Lizardo

I have altered the deal, pray I don’t alter it further.

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

432 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 9:39:26am

re: #415 Skip Intro

Hillary is going to be so demonized by the right the second she announces she’s running that my money would be on a Bush win. I don’t think she has any idea of the total shitstorm that will come her way if she runs, and a lot of it will stick.

This, among many other reasons, is why I don’t want her to run.

I sort of disagree. I think she is very aware of the oncoming shitstorm. She was the one who coined the “Vast Rightwing Conspiracy” term and the RWNJs still boil over that.

If Hillary is going to be good at anything, it will be flame throwing. I don’t think she will cower over anything like that.

That doesn’t mean I think she is the best candidate, but if there is going to be mud wrestling, she will be a good mudder.

433 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:41:09am

re: #430 Teukka

Dugin is not someone who tells Kremlin what to do, and he’s been pissed of at Putin lately, but… the fact that this neo-fascist is everywhere on TV and has any kind of influence at all is telling.

434 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 9:42:19am

re: #428 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure right about now there’s gotta be some panic going around in Russian government circles, if for nothing else, that someone’s gonna get to experience this first hand:

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I wonder how you say, “You have failed me for the last time” in Russian.

Smth like Ты подвел меня в последний раз.

435 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 9:43:49am
436 Decatur Deb  Dec 16, 2014 9:45:11am

re: #397 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak
“That face just screams dudebro. Who is Barrett Brown again?”

Former lizard.

He didn’t complete his internship.

437 CuriousLurker  Dec 16, 2014 9:45:27am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WW will like that one. ;-)

438 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 9:47:09am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

I liked that the local commuter trains around Cologne had plenty of space to handle bicycles. Saw that when I was in the area of Wesseling for a week a few years back.

439 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:47:30am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Way cool. MARC is awesome by the way. Took one from D.C to Baltimore for a show last fall.

440 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 9:48:41am

More of that “liberal” media:

Would somebody please get that hack off the air?!

441 Teukka  Dec 16, 2014 9:50:34am

re: #433 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Dugin is not someone who tells Kremlin what to do, and he’s been pissed of at Putin lately, but… the fact that this neo-fascist is everywhere on TV and has any kind of influence at all is telling.

And what is the state of the safety mechanisms on Russian nuclear weapons? I mean, what kind of following does he have among service members? Problem with people like Dugin being popular is that someone might take things into their own hands and do something rash, like an independent launch…

Cue one of the signals I don’t want to hear over the air raid siren system here in Sweden:

Youtube Video

I know that I can make it to shrapnel shelter in about 90 seconds after hearing that signal, but many won’t be able to.

Short bursts clearly originating from the siren system as opposed to a building or open mining site (where it is used for warning before a blast) is the attack signal in Sweden and Norway.

A 30s tone / 15 s silence cadence is the mobilization signal in Sweden.

A 7 s tone / 14 s silence cadence is the general alert signal in Sweden, which means that you are to close doors and windows, shut down ventilation and listen to the P4 radio network. It is tested at 15:00 CET the first Monday of March, June, September and December.

A 30 to 40 s single tone is the all clear.

442 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:50:52am

re: #440 Targetpractice

More of that “liberal” media:

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Would somebody please get that hack off the air?!

Pretty interesting words from a guy who had an intern die in his office mysteriously but hey let’s accuse women of making rape up because we’re conservatives and if there’s one thing conservatives do well, it’s degrade rape victims.

443 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 9:52:25am

re: #426 The Vicious Babushka

It seems to me that everything Hillary has done since 2001 has been to add bagatelles to her CV.

Thanks VB! Bagatelles is my new word for the day. Can’t say I’ve come across that one before. Or, if I did I blew by it.

444 Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2014 9:54:18am

re: #440 Targetpractice

More of that “liberal” media:

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Who would I thow my morning coffee at then.

Would somebody please get that hack off the air?!

Who would I throw my morning coffee at then….

445 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 9:59:07am

re: #444 Dave In Austin

Who would I throw my morning coffee at then….

Fox and Friends?

446 Varek Raith  Dec 16, 2014 10:00:33am

What?! I’m not riding no fucking unicycle!

447 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 10:03:43am
448 Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2014 10:06:23am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

I’ll bet it’s been over 11 years since I looked at that. I don’t want to buy a new TV every year……

449 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:11:02am

re: #425 ObserverArt

I know what you are saying, but sadly taking a stand too early can lead to many problems with the media (FOX, MSNBC) and those other candidates you may be facing.

It really seems the best way to run any more is to be sort of neutral and speak in generalities at least through the primaries. It is about what you stand against more then stand for.

I for once would like to see a true firebrand type of candidate. This country could use a good political kick in the ass.

Coincidentally, today’s The Borowitz Report is titled “Warren’s Display of Backbone Threatens Career as Democrat.”

450 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 10:11:05am
451 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:11:51am

Ruble shitting the bed.

bloomberg.com

Where are all the wingers who were praising Putin as a genius a few months ago?

452 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 10:12:15am

heh…

453 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 10:15:13am

re: #450 lawhawk

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I see the wingnuts are waving the white flag early this cycle.

454 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:16:32am

Nevermind, I found them, they’re at freep of course.

Something tells me there is no way Putin is going to let the likes of Obama best him. Even if he has to send in the tanks or NUKES.

24 posted on 12/15/2014, 4:14:06 PM by rbg81
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455 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:16:38am
456 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:17:27am

re: #453 b.d.

I see the wingnuts are waving the white flag early this cycle.

I think so. They hate to lose and none of the most-mentioned wingers is packing the gear to win. Jeb is probably humming “Hail to the Chief” as he walks around the house.

457 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 10:20:58am

re:
#454

Something tells me there is no way Putin is going to let the likes of Obama best him. Even if he has to send in the tanks or NUKES.

Ah, another proud Christian American Patriot who loves America and loves Freedom. //

458 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:23:22am

re: #457 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It gets way better,

I smell war. I smell Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38 & 39!! It is coming and soon.

46 posted on 12/15/2014, 6:02:52 PM by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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freerepublic.com

459 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 10:24:15am

re: #458 SpaceJesus

It gets way better,

freerepublic.com

How fucking sad is one’s life that they have to hope for the End of The World?

460 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 10:24:54am

re:
#458

RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)

What does this mean for the Fair Tax?

//

461 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:26:01am

re: #458 SpaceJesus

It gets way better,

freerepublic.com

They sound like people who hope that their shitty, benighted lives will soon be over. Wait until they find out that either dead means dead or that God is a black woman.

462 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 10:26:23am

The terrorists who carried out the Peshawar attacks did so with vile and horrendous motivations. Drive fear into Pakistanis who continue to support the government and their ongoing crackdown (Pakistan always seems to have spurts where the government cracks down on any number of Taliban militias, then ignores the problem entirely) and hope that the government wont come after them.

Killing more than 100 kids in a mass casualty terror attack isn’t likely to result in inaction by the Sharif government. They’re going to have to respond but I doubt that they’ve got the resolve to actually take the steps necessary to finally pacify the frontier provinces/FATA/Waziristans (which were established precisely because those regions were so difficult to control in the first place).

In other words, it appears to be the death throes of a terror group that needs to gain notoriety by killing as many people as possible so that they can replenish their ranks before they are themselves wiped out. Yet, the very acts they carried out will likely hasten their demise.

Note too that the kids being targeted are the kids of those in the military. They’re going after the families of those soldiers the Taliban are facing:

The Taliban has claimed that the siege on the Army Public School in Peshawar, one of nearly 150 schools across the country run by the military, was “revenge” for the Pakistani army’s ongoing operation in North Waziristan, a hotbed of terrorist activity for years. Pakistan officials said the attack, which killed more than 140, appeared to be aimed at the children of senior military personnel who attend the school.

“The Taliban could have attacked any one of the thousands of schools across the country,” said retired Maj. Gen. Mahmud Ali Durrani. “They deliberately went after the children of the soldiers they’re fighting.”

463 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:27:00am

Denial over the mythical “big strong white man stands up to evil brown muslim” story coming apart is setting in among the wingers.

It is far more likely that Russia has engineered the decline of its ruble in order position itself as the low-cost producer and thereby destabilize the global economy and especially force the high-cost producers (in America) out of business.
50 posted on 12/15/2014, 8:44:35 PM by 9thLife
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464 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:28:31am

re: #459 Targetpractice

You’ve heard of free republic before? It’s where all of our crazy conservative uncles hang out when they’re not at Thanksgiving.

465 allegro  Dec 16, 2014 10:28:53am

re: #459 Targetpractice

How fucking sad is one’s life that they have to hope for the End of The World?

It’s most disconcerting that this was said by someone who was career military.

466 Varek Raith  Dec 16, 2014 10:28:57am

re: #463 SpaceJesus

Denial over the mythical “big strong white man stands up to evil brown muslim” story coming apart is setting in among the wingers.

Lol. Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttttt, 9thLife.

467 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:29:16am

re: #464 SpaceJesus

You’ve heard of free republic before? It’s where all of our crazy conservative uncles hang out when they’re not at Thanksgiving.

I can’t believe that I used to post at that snake pit.

468 CuriousLurker  Dec 16, 2014 10:29:18am

re: #462 lawhawk

Yet, the very acts they carried out will likely hasten their demise.

Let’s hope so. I’m beyond sick & tired of this crap.

469 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 10:29:27am

re: #449 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Coincidentally, today’s The Borowitz Report is titled “Warren’s Display of Backbone Threatens Career as Democrat.”

Saw a comment the other day from a self-identified libertarian, smartest political thinker in the world gas bag that said “Now your hero is that bat shit crazy bitch, Elizabeth Warren” in a discussion.

I guess if you show any fire as a woman this is how you will be labeled. Not much different from “The angry black person” caricature.

470 FemNaziBitch  Dec 16, 2014 10:32:00am

How is it now.

I see all the buttons are back.

471 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:32:11am

re: #469 ObserverArt

Well, we certainly can’t have an outspoken advocate for the people just running around loose, can we? The media will paint her as deluded. Her fellow Democrats will keep mum while it does.

472 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 16, 2014 10:32:32am

re:
#463

destabilize the global economy and especially force the high-cost producers (in America) out of business.

So this Patriot thinks Russia is going to put The American Job-Creators out of business? Well, if American Job Creators were not forced to pay a minimum wage to slackers America would be more competitive, or something. //

473 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 10:32:46am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t believe that I used to post at that snake pit.

Knowing you from here, I too can’t believe you used to post there.

: )

474 Decatur Deb  Dec 16, 2014 10:32:53am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

[Embedded content]

Well, there’s the win for the holiday season.

475 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 16, 2014 10:33:50am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t believe that I used to post at that snake pit.

I, personally, am very glad you are here and not there. Thank you.

476 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 10:34:23am

re: #472 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#463

So this Patriot thinks Russia is going to put The American Job-Creators out of business? Well, if American Job Creators were not forced to pay a minimum wage to slackers America would be more competitive, or something. //

There’s a lot of Putinistas over at Free Republic. I once saw one of the posters there caustically refer to the Putin Fan Club as the ‘Borscht Brigade’, which certainly made me chuckle, I have to admit.

477 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:34:38am

Somebody (and I can’t remember if it was a liberal or a wingnut) linked to this pile of Stupid on Twitter and why oh why did I click on it.

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY:
Nobody Has The Right To Buy A Wedding Cake.

478 Floral Giraffe  Dec 16, 2014 10:35:00am

re: #458 SpaceJesus

Haven’t “seen” you in ages. Happy Haunakkah or Merry Christmas, whatever you prefer!

479 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:35:30am

re: #473 ObserverArt

Knowing you from here, I too can’t believe you used to post there.

: )

I had to make a choice in 2009 to stay here or stay at Freep. I chose to leave Freep and stay here.

480 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 10:35:47am

re: #449 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Coincidentally, today’s The Borowitz Report is titled “Warren’s Display of Backbone Threatens Career as Democrat.”

It still amazes me that Warren calling out the elements of her own party for approving of the banks returning to the bad practices that precipitated the Great Recession has resulted in her being treated as “far-left.”

481 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 10:35:57am

re: #451 SpaceJesus

Ruble shitting the bed.

bloomberg.com

Where are all the wingers who were praising Putin as a genius a few months ago?

Selling off their rubles as fast as they can?
//

482 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:36:26am

Putin is destroying Russia’s economy and government budget in order to maybe adversely affect US fracking which makes up less than 1% of US GDP. Ok.

483 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:36:35am

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody (and I can’t remember if it was a liberal or a wingnut) linked to this pile of Stupid on Twitter and why oh why did I click on it.

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY:

I added a donotlink to that link

484 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 10:37:41am

re: #459 Targetpractice

How fucking sad is one’s life that they have to hope for the End of The World?

If they can’t be supremely on top of the heap without equals - then burn it all down. MAD doctrine doesn’t work on fanatics.

485 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:37:51am

re: #481 Feline Fearless Leader

Selling off their rubles as fast as they can?
//

The Freepers were considering moving to Russia last I saw. Bastion of freedom against gay tyranny led by a white real man.

486 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 16, 2014 10:38:19am

re: #37 Higgs Boson’s Mate

[Embedded content] Vincent Black Lightning

How about a NorVin?

The NorVin

A Norton Featherbed frame with the engine from an HRD Vincent shoehorned into it. The most sought after engine was the 998cc OHV v-twin from the Vincent Black Shadow. With its 7.3:1 compression ratio, twin Amal carbs, and polished engine internals, it produced 54 HP @ 5700 RPM.

Twin leading shoe front drum brakes slowed the hybrid from its 125mph top speed.

h/t Modern Luddite

487 Pip's Squeak  Dec 16, 2014 10:39:14am

re: #482 SpaceJesus

Putin is destroying Russia’s economy and government budget in order to maybe adversely affect US fracking which makes up less than 1% of US GDP. Ok.

The logic of this comment escapes me. That OPEC won’t reduce output is hardly the fault of Putin.

488 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:40:37am

re: #487 Pip’s Squeak

Or that we have increased oil production here. Or how a tumbling ruble has much of an effect on that if at all.

489 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:40:51am

re: #486 BeenHereAwhile

Now that’s just beautiful.

490 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 10:41:03am

re: #487 Pip’s Squeak

The logic of this comment escapes me. That OPEC won’t reduce output is hardly the fault of Putin.

Precisely. There isn’t a whole hell of a lot Putin can do if OPEC refuses to reduce output.

491 SpaceJesus  Dec 16, 2014 10:41:10am

Obviously we need to read more Reaganomics in order to understand this.

492 Archangelus  Dec 16, 2014 10:41:15am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

[Embedded content]

“Oh god, it’s mom” - that was hilarious!
Wouldn’t have thought I’d live to witness a day when something on C-SPAN wouldn’t put me to sleep in under 10 seconds of continuous observation…

493 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:41:18am

#JebBushCampaignSlogans

494 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 10:42:28am
495 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 10:42:37am

Speeding will get a cop to pull a gun on you, even if you’re rushing home to your pregnant wife who has had numerous complications and had just called to say she was going into labor.

There’s no word on why the cop pulled the gun in the first place, but the police department claims that the officer acted professionally.

The man claims he repeatedly told the cop that he was rushing to get to his pregnant wife so that they could go to the hospital.

496 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 10:43:54am

re: #462 lawhawk

In other words a deliberate escalation. By killing the children of soldiers they in essence *want* to trigger reprisals by the soldiers in turn. In hope that that will help generate local support and help further fanatic-ize their base.

497 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:04am

re: #486 BeenHereAwhile

Ye holy cats and dogs! That’s even more awesome than a Triton (Norton frame, Triumph engine).

498 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:05am

re: #494 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

In other words,

Jack and Shit - Army of Darkness

499 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:21am

re: #491 SpaceJesus

Obviously we need to read more Reaganomics in order to understand this.

#AskByron

@ByronSwartz1 is a ECON master.

500 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:41am

re: #463 SpaceJesus

Denial over the mythical “big strong white man stands up to evil brown muslim” story coming apart is setting in among the wingers.

So Putin is acting to prevent Keystone?
//

501 Franklin  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:47am

Holy crap, checked in on @ByronSwartz1 and the circle of life is complete!!

502 Varek Raith  Dec 16, 2014 10:45:48am

1000 Rubles!
I must go!

503 FemNaziBitch  Dec 16, 2014 10:46:17am

re: #495 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Speeding will get a cop to pull a gun on you, even if you’re rushing home to your pregnant wife who has had numerous complications and had just called to say she was going into labor.

There’s no word on why the cop pulled the gun in the first place, but the police department claims that the officer acted professionally.

The man claims he repeatedly told the cop that he was rushing to get to his pregnant wife so that they could go to the hospital.

You mean the cop didn’t immediatly jump in his squad car and give the man a siren blaring seeding escort home and then to the hospital.

Protect and Serve —my ass
PSMA

504 Ace-o-aces  Dec 16, 2014 10:46:58am

MJ has a new profile on Chucky:

motherjones.com

From the article:

He added that all of his allegations had been reviewed before publication by his mentor, Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz, for whom he had worked as a researcher when he was in high school. Asked about Johnson, Dershowitz responded in an email, “We disagree about many issues but I admire his principled opposition to all things politically correct and his determination to be heard and to make a difference.”

Wow, just when I thought my opinion of Alan Dershowitz couldn’t get any lower.

505 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 16, 2014 10:47:09am

re: #503 FemNaziBitch

You mean the cop didn’t immediatly jump in his squad car and give the man a siren blaring seeding escort home and then to the hospital.

Protect and Serve —my ass
PSMA

I’ve been saying this for the past couple of weeks - “Serve & Protect the 1%”

506 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:47:24am

re: #503 FemNaziBitch

You mean the cop didn’t immediatly jump in his squad car and give the man a siren blaring seeding escort home and then to the hospital.

Protect and Serve —my ass
PSMA

Only white people get a siren ride to the hospital.

507 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 10:47:25am

re: #494 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

A graphical representation of the Russian economy just now:

Nuclear Explosion

508 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 10:48:33am

re: #495 lawhawk

Cleveland’s police force is really pissing me off. They have had issues for years and it seems that they are now worse than they have been.

Bunker mentality seems to be the new rage for cops. Us versus them seems to be their thinking and with that it will all get worse. Add pissed off to bad attitude and this whole country is going to be facing these problems.

I have a feeling this summer is going to be hell on the streets of America. And it is not the criminals we will be fearing. Joe Super Cop is out to prove who is really in charge.

509 FemNaziBitch  Dec 16, 2014 10:48:35am

re: #495 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Speeding will get a cop to pull a gun on you, even if you’re rushing home to your pregnant wife who has had numerous complications and had just called to say she was going into labor.

There’s no word on why the cop pulled the gun in the first place, but the police department claims that the officer acted professionally.

The man claims he repeatedly told the cop that he was rushing to get to his pregnant wife so that they could go to the hospital.

“I get that I should have pulled over sooner,” Taylor said. “But he shouldn’t have escalated the situation; he should have de-escalated the situation.”

Yes, this!

510 Kragar  Dec 16, 2014 10:50:55am

re: #497 William Barnett-Lewis

Ye holy cats and dogs! That’s even more awesome than a Triton (Norton frame, Triumph engine).

[Embedded content]

My dad would be shaking his head and thinking about how to put the original bikes back together.

511 FemNaziBitch  Dec 16, 2014 10:51:50am
512 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 10:51:52am
513 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 10:53:03am

re: #506 The Vicious Babushka

Only white people get a siren ride to the hospital.

I know it took place in Cleveland Heights - but was there something in the article indicating what race the driver in question, or the policeman, was?

514 b.d.  Dec 16, 2014 10:53:33am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

What does that mean? That he blocked them?

515 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 10:54:19am

re: #514 b.d.

What does that mean? That he blocked them?

Yes, he blocked the Embassy.

516 De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2014 10:56:11am

re: #229 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I agree. I was better off not knowing this had happened.

Speaking of Dylan…

517 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 10:56:21am

Wingnuts want a MONSTER candidate

518 Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2014 10:57:35am

re: #517 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts want a MONSTER candidate

[Embedded content]

In short, they want something that doesn’t exist.

519 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 10:59:38am

re: #497 William Barnett-Lewis

Wow! Gorgeous. And there’s always the Norton-based Dunstall Dominator.

520 ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2014 11:00:15am

re: #517 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts want a MONSTER candidate

[Embedded content]

Frankenpolitician.

By the way, how does anyone actually know Rand’s values? I think he only values himself and even that is subject to change if he can get a couple votes out it.

521 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2014 11:00:54am

re: #520 ObserverArt

Frankenpolitician.

By the way, how does anyone actually know Rand’s values? I think he only values himself and even that is subject to change if he can get a couple votes out it.

They lost me at “Romney’s charisma”

522 klystron  Dec 16, 2014 11:01:24am

re: #513 Feline Fearless Leader

I know it took place in Cleveland Heights - but was there something in the article indicating what race the driver in question, or the policeman, was?

Daily Fail supposedly has a photo of the guy. If accurate, the driver is white.

Nothing on the police officer that I have seen.

523 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 11:01:33am

Something for VB:

:D

524 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 11:02:31am
525 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 16, 2014 11:02:39am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

Olde Christmas music.

526 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 16, 2014 11:04:20am

re: #522 klystron

Daily Fail supposedly has a photo of the guy. If accurate, the driver is white.

Nothing on the police officer that I have seen.

I’m asking since I have seen some comments insinuating that the driver was black, cop was white, same crap, different day. I don’t want to even start down that path until those conditions are confirmed.

Edit: By comments I don’t necessarily mean LGF.

527 Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2014 11:08:40am

re: #517 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts want a MONSTER candidate

[Embedded content]

That’s frightening. I hope it’s a joke.

528 Timothy Watson  Dec 16, 2014 11:08:47am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

They lost me at “Romney’s charisma”

I thought she was joking until I read more of her timeline. Oy vey.

Poe’s Law at work.

529 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2014 11:09:23am
Bradley Stone, the man prosecutors say is responsible for gunning down his ex-wife and six of her family members before going on the run, has been found dead in the woods near his home, sources tell NBC10.

His body was discovered near W. 4th Street and Schoolhouse Road in Pennsburg. Sources said it appears Stone shot himself.

Read more: nbcphiladelphia.com
Follow us: @nbcphiladelphia on Twitter | nbcphiladelphia on Facebook

530 klystron  Dec 16, 2014 11:09:33am

re: #526 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m asking since I have seen some comments insinuating that the driver was black, cop was white, same crap, different day. I don’t want to even start down that path until those conditions are confirmed.

Edit: By comments I don’t necessarily mean LGF.

Yeah, I can’t say for sure. It’s the Daily Fail.

I have seen a comment from the driver that he is apparently considering a civil lawsuit.

531 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 16, 2014 11:11:24am

re: #517 The Vicious Babushka

She wants a charismatic, backstabbing, granny-starver with no discernible values. It will take a few more years of .1% inbreeding to achieve that one.

532 Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2014 11:13:23am

Meanwhile, in Russia, the collapsing ruble has prompted something of a shopping spree:

Russians hurried to change their savings and pensions into dollars and euros while also stocking up on furniture and jewellery as the rouble’s collapse accelerated.

Their mounting concern was reflected on Tuesday morning in the red lights of the currency exchange booths that dot the city, which were ticking over to show ever weaker rouble rates.

A queue of about a dozen people formed at a branch of Sberbank, the country’s largest bank, opposite Kursky station in central Moscow. “I took out some of my pension and I want to change it into dollars,” said Galina, a retiree, who declined to give her surname. “None of us know what’s happening. We’re all worried that the currency will keep falling.”

But it’s not all fun and games:

Muscovites were divided in their views on who was to blame for the currency’s collapse, but there were signs that some were becoming more disillusioned with the authorities.

“Are sanctions responsible for the banks speculating? I don’t think so. It’s a distraction. They are saying look, look over there at Ukraine. And while we’re looking over there at Ukraine, they [the government] is reaching into our pockets,” said Konstantin Shulik, a Moscow consultant, who complained that his dollar-denominated mortgage had become 50 per cent more expensive in rouble terms thanks to the currency collapse.

“I can’t go on vacation and I’m going to have to scale back on the new year’s presents I buy. And my grocery bill has gone up 15 per cent because of inflation.”

If the ruble keeps sinking, Mr. Shulik’s gonna be in a world of hurt with a dollar-denominated mortgage.

Ouch.

ft.com

533 Floral Giraffe  Dec 16, 2014 11:14:21am

re: #531 Higgs Boson’s Mate

She wants a charismatic, backstabbing, granny-starver with no discernible values. It will take a few more years of .1% inbreeding to achieve that one.

Sarah Palin or Orly Taitz for the win!

534 lawhawk  Dec 16, 2014 11:18:27am
535 CuriousLurker  Dec 16, 2014 11:28:20am

re: #534 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Beard!—he must be a Muslim convert!11!

If not, then I’ll be expecting all the people who share his ethnicity to loudly condemn his actions, apologize for what he did, and explain how not all of them are killers. They will be required to repeat this every time something happens.

If the media doesn’t report it far & wide, then we’ll assume everyone who shares his race/religion/whatever are in favor of these types of crimes. //

536 Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2014 12:03:56pm

re: #501 Franklin

Holy crap, checked in on @ByronSwartz1 and the circle of life is complete!!

Beat me to it. I was going to post this up after work. 2 peas inthe Pod…

[Embedded content]

537 b_sharp  Dec 16, 2014 12:48:04pm

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t believe that I used to post at that snake pit.

I did too but I was there for the lols.

538 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 16, 2014 1:46:28pm

re: #515 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, he blocked the Embassy.

Rykov is a conservative who said on twitter he would gladly shoot some liberals. Of course, this didn’t prevent him from playing an important part in spreading putinist propaganda in RuNet.


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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