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1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 10:34:23am

reposting from downstairs:

2 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 10:35:19am
3 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:35:25am

It was the right move. Well done Mr. President and the others involved.

4 Kragar  Dec 17, 2014 10:36:18am
5 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 10:36:43am

Perhaps the reason this comes as such a shock is because most wingnuts are too young or too old to remember Nixon normalizing relations with China. Most of them grew up either shortly before or after the end of the Cold War and thus assume that that’s the only way to bring democracy to a nation, to utterly defeat it and then move right on in.

6 Kragar  Dec 17, 2014 10:36:46am
7 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 10:37:46am

Cuban FOOD!!!!!

8 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:38:17am

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

Cuban FOOD!!!!!

Yep.

9 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 10:38:19am

…Should we tell him?

10 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 10:39:51am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

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…Should we tell him?

Please tell me that’s a joke.

11 Kragar  Dec 17, 2014 10:39:58am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

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…Should we tell him?

12 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 10:40:13am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

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…Should we tell him?

Obama’s going to build a shark-proof free cell-phone welfare contraption that transports SHIFTLESS CUBANS to our shores.

Because that’s the kind of ineffective evil mastermind he is!

13 Lidane  Dec 17, 2014 10:40:54am

So we’re dismantling the Cold War relic embargo? Good.

It should’ve happened when the Soviet Union collapsed, but better late than never.

14 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 10:40:57am

Up here we’ve been able to get Cuban cigars for years.

15 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 10:41:04am

The other wingnut Outrage Du Jour is somebody asking FLOTUS to take down an item from a high shelf.

16 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 10:41:30am

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

Cuban FOOD!!!!!

See: Ybor and Seminole Heights. Plenty of it. :)

17 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 10:42:03am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Please tell me that’s a joke.

I’d like to think so. But experience makes me unsure.

18 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 10:42:22am

Perhaps that’s what has the Cubanos worried, that with the end of the embargo will also go “Wet Foot, Dry Foot,” putting their families in the queue with the legions of other immigrants rather than getting an express lane.

19 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:42:26am

re: #14 b_sharp

Up here we’ve been able to get Cuban cigars for years.

Probably get better Cuban sandwiches and rum too, you selfish Canadian bastards. //

20 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 10:42:48am

re: #17 Ace-o-aces

I’d like to think so. But experience makes me unsure.

POE strikes again.

21 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:43:22am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Perhaps that’s what has the Cubanos worried, that with the end of the embargo will also go “Wet Foot, Dry Foot,” putting their families in the queue with the legions of other immigrants rather than getting an express lane.

That policy always bothered me. I mean I feel if you’re going to have that policy for one group of people, you should have it for all those escaping despotic regimes.it actually seems though that the younger generation of Cuban Americans favored doing this but it was the older types or the types that are young but act like old men like Rubio and Cruz that had a problem with this.

22 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 10:43:33am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

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…Should we tell him?

Does he not know that any Cuban that reaches US soil is given permanent legal status?

23 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 10:44:31am

re: #22 blueraven

Does he not know that any Cuban that reaches US soil is given permanent legal status?

But this means they don’t have to swim.

24 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 10:45:00am

re: #22 blueraven

Does he not know that any Cuban that reaches US soil is given permanent legal status?

Duh! That”s why so many of them walk all the way to Florida.

25 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:45:01am

Only in America would we elect the Canadian born son of a former Castro supporter that is now a right wing shithead that resembles Grandpa Munster’s evil twin brother.

26 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 10:45:09am
tbo.com As part of resuming diplomatic relations with Cuba, the U.S. will soon reopen an embassy in the capital of Havana and carry out high-level exchanges and visits between the governments. The U.S. is also easing travel bans to Cuba, including for family visits, official U.S. government business and educational activities. Tourist travel remains banned.

Licensed American travelers to Cuba will now be able to return to the U.S. with $400 in Cuban goods, including tobacco and alcohol products worth less than $100 combined. This means the long-standing ban on importing Cuban cigars is over, although there are still limits.

The U.S. is also increasing the amount of money Americans can send to Cubans from $500 to $2,000 every three months. Early in his presidency, Obama allowed unlimited family visits by Cuban-Americans and removed a $1,200 annual cap on remittances. Kerry is also launching a review of Cuba’s designation as a state sponsor of terror.

27 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 10:45:43am
28 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:46:38am

re: #26 Dr. Matt

Well that’s lame.

29 KerFuFFler  Dec 17, 2014 10:46:45am

The same people who rage against human rights violations in Cuba tend to be apologists for the torture regime and the base in Cuba no less.

I question their patriotism:

“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]… I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” — George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775

Ignorant motherfuckers…

30 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 10:48:27am

I get the impression these morons think that, if they’d just waited for the Castros to die, Cuba would have magically abandoned communism overnight and begged for America to come “liberate” them.

31 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 10:48:30am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Well that’s lame.

Big time.

32 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:48:34am

re: #29 KerFuFFler

The same people who rage against human rights violations in Cuba tend to be apologists for the torture regime and the base in Cuba no less.

I question their patriotism:

Ignorant motherfuckers…

They’d be fine with the Castros if they were anti-communist. Right wing anti-communism has never been based out of opposition to communist regimes not respecting human rights, it’s because those communist regimes aren’t anti communist. Lest we forget that Margaret Thatcher gushed over Pinochet so much that she wanted the UK to give him exile in his dying years and we had no problem with Francisco Franco following WWII either.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 10:48:42am

I routinely get asked by American friends to bring back Cuban cigars whenever I head home to Canada. I politely refuse as I am still going through the immigration process and would prefer to NOT get caught at the border with those!

34 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 10:50:36am
35 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:50:44am

This should also make it easier for people to leave Cuba too but of course selfish pricks like Rubio never think about that because all Rubio cares about is as appearing anti-communist as possible as opposed to actually doing anything constructive.

36 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 10:51:33am

Chuck and his friends are SUCH ASSHOLES.

37 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 10:53:00am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Chuck and his friends are SUCH ASSHOLES.

Birds of brown feathers…

38 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 10:53:11am

So, how long before the wingnuts try to argue that the embargo is a Democrat policy because it started under JFK, so “libruls” should support it and failure to do so is somehow hypocritical?

39 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:54:38am

re: #38 Targetpractice

So, how long before the wingnuts try to argue that the embargo is a Democrat policy because it started under JFK, so “libruls” should support it and failure to do so is somehow hypocritical?

You know that’s coming from the concern troll brigade.

40 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 10:54:42am

It’s the same thing with the whole party switch back in the early 20th, they just act like nothing at all has changed in the U.S. OR Cuba since the embargo began.

41 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 10:57:36am

Per CL’s latest page but the 14 year old African-American boy that was executed by the state of South Carolina in 1944 was exonerated today. No witnesses, no evidence, 2 hour trial, and it took the jury of all 12 whites only 20 minutes to convict him. There were so many cases like this in the South. And its spirit continues today when people like Tamir Rice are attacked as “thugs” in the media by pathetic assholes.

42 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 10:58:33am

CUBAN FOOD!!!!

43 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 10:59:28am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Per CL’s latest page but the 14 year old African-American boy that was executed by the state of South Carolina in 1944 was exonerated today. No witnesses, no evidence, 2 hour trial, and it took the jury of all 12 whites only 20 minutes to convict him. There were so many cases like this in the South. And its spirit continues today when people like Tamir Rice are attacked as “thugs” in the media by pathetic assholes.

click

44 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 10:59:42am
45 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:00:47am
46 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:01:32am

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

click

It’s just amazing really the kind of shit that happened. I think a lot of whites are under the wrong impression that Jim Crow was just suppressed voting rights and segregation (bad enough) but the reality is the system was a system where a white man could murder a black man and not only get away with it but get hero status. A black man meanwhile could commit the pettiest of crimes and find himself on even death row. I recall reading about one case where a black man stole 5 dollars or so worth of goods and was sentenced to death.

47 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:02:06am

“Kill Social Security, Keep The Embargo!”
~2016 GOP campaign slogan

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 11:02:36am
49 Timothy Watson  Dec 17, 2014 11:03:16am

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

CUBAN FOOD!!!!

WE SHOULD ONLY HAVE AMERICAN FOOD!1!! MELTING POT NOT SALAD BAR!!1!

Shit, wait, that’s for the other brown people, not the ones that might vote for us for indulging their fantasies of retaking Cuba…

50 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:03:21am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But I thought Obummer hated Jews.

51 Timothy Watson  Dec 17, 2014 11:04:04am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

But I thought Obummer hated Jews.

He’s not a real Jew, obviously…
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52 Lidane  Dec 17, 2014 11:04:05am

I am amused by the wingnut reaction:

BHO’s goal seems to be to make Americans less free (NSA spying, insurance mandates, etc) while making people in other countries more free. Nothing like a little freedom redistribution, eh? Thanks once again, Obamabots. Sorry, I meant Obama voters.

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 11:04:07am
54 SpaceJesus  Dec 17, 2014 11:04:10am

FIFA’s Qatar investigator quits,

businessinsider.com

55 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:05:31am

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s probably having strategy sessions to try to twist this. I’m honestly surprised we haven’t heard from Teddy yet. Who knows. He’s probably conferring with his lunatic father on this and trying to think of the most outlandish thing to say about this since Rubio’s response was actually pretty weak sauce.

56 allegro  Dec 17, 2014 11:06:12am

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

CUBAN FOOD!!!!

My only familiarity with Cuban food was from a Cuban family in our neighborhood for whom I used to babysit when I was in high school. I don’t really know what was in it but whenever they were cooking it smelled horrible.

57 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:06:39am

From MMfA:
Limbaugh: Jeb Bush’s 2016 Bid “Could Be A Sacrificial Run” To Make Sure A Conservative Doesn’t Get Nomination
Video

Pass the popcorn
58 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:07:38am

50+ years of failing policy, and the GOP response, is that we must hold on just a bit longer, and then it will succeed.

Nope. It wont. It hasn’t until now, and there’s no reason to think the embargo will change anything next year or 10 years from now.

We’ve managed to normalize relations with Vietnam and Laos and Cambodia. We have normal relations (ambassadors, embassies, etc.) with rivals like China and Russia, each of which have human rights abuses as bad or worse than anything Cuba ever did.

We have normalized relations with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and any number of other countries with horrendous human rights records. Yet, Cuba is the only one with which we don’t have an embassy or ambassador. Why is that?

It boils down to Castro. He “won”, which is to say that an autocrat managed to survive for decades. And it’s not like we haven’t dealt with autocrats before too - like Mubarak, Saudis, etc.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 11:07:46am
60 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 11:07:51am
61 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:08:14am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Baby steps.

62 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:08:22am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That one is going to really infuriate them. How dare he thank Obama.

63 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:09:22am

re: #47 Dr. Matt

Kill Obamacare, Keep Embargo.

Yeah, that’ll be a swell slogan.

64 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:09:24am

Which is a bigger failure: Trickle down economics or the Cuban embargo.

65 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:09:32am

re: #61 The War TARDIS

Baby steps.

Of course but I still say it’s lame but hey it’s progress. I just wish I were closer to D.C today so I could step into my favorite Cuban restaurant there and get some Cuban tapas and some good mixed drinks.

66 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:09:50am

re: #63 lawhawk

Kill Obamacare, Keep Embargo.

Yeah, that’ll be a swell slogan.

bring back DOMA!

67 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:10:44am

re: #56 allegro

My only familiarity with Cuban food was from a Cuban family in our neighborhood for whom I used to babysit when I was in high school. I don’t really know what was in it but whenever they were cooking it smelled horrible.

It’s good stuff. No idea what they were cooking but my favorite is the classic sandwich. Pork, ham, Swiss cheese, mustard, all on good bread.

68 allegro  Dec 17, 2014 11:13:17am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

It’s good stuff. No idea what they were cooking but my favorite is the classic sandwich. Pork, ham, Swiss cheese, mustard, all on good bread.

I would like to try it but I don’t know of any Cuban restaurants around. Kinda surprising really since we have restaurants of most every ethnic variety one can think of here.

69 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:13:21am
70 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:13:30am
71 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:13:49am

Yeah, and I’m betting that Don King, Bob Arum and other boxing promoters are salivating at chance to get fights with and involving Cuban boxers.

72 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 11:13:57am
Hey it is lunch time after all!
73 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 11:14:03am

re: #58 lawhawk

50+ years of failing policy, and the GOP response, is that we must hold on just a bit longer, and then it will succeed.

How many Friedman units should we give it?

/

74 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:14:04am

re: #68 allegro

I would like to try it but I don’t know of any Cuban restaurants around. Kinda surprising really since we have restaurants of most every ethnic variety one can think of here.

Damn stinks. Well it’s far from genuine, I think Panera’s Cubano is pretty good.

75 Belafon  Dec 17, 2014 11:14:21am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Well that’s lame.

These can only be lifted by Congress changing the law.

76 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:14:50am

re: #71 lawhawk

There’s a big-bat third baseman that the Giants want to replace Pablo Sandoval - can’t remember his name, but he’s in Cuba.

77 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:15:02am

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

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Forgot the pickle,d’oh but damn it now I’m hungry again and I just had lunch.

78 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:15:25am

If you haven’t watched the movie “Chef” yet, watch it - Cubanos that will make your mouth water.

79 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:15:39am

re: #73 makeitstop

Considering they went for 100, I am not sure.

With Russia’s economy collapsing, Europe and the West really need to make sure they don’t get back up.

80 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:16:49am

Back when I lived in Miami, radio stations were bombed for being insufficiently anti-Castro. I hope the Secret Service is more alert for right wing nutjobs after this.

81 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:17:03am

Interesting though since I was just reading about the ‘75 Reds and Red Sox- Tiant and Tony Perez both being Cubans. Tony Perez has a funny quote. “When I was a boy growing up in Cuba, Luis Tiant was a national hero. Now I’m 36 and he’s 37.”

82 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 11:17:14am
83 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:17:17am

re: #73 makeitstop

How many Friedman units should we give it?

/

Any number less than infinity means that the commie terrorists have won.

84 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:17:43am

re: #78 darthstar

If you haven’t watched the movie “Chef” yet, watch it - Cubanos that will make your mouth water.

I made the mistake of watching that one after dinner.

85 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 11:17:46am

Alan Gross is now getting Bowe Bergdahl’ed by the #tcot‘ers. My surprise, let me show you it.

86 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:18:32am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Alan Gross is now getting Bowe Bergdahl’ed by the #tcot‘ers. My surprise, let me show you it.

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Of fucking course.

87 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:19:26am

re: #75 Belafon

These can only be lifted by Congress changing the law.

Gotcha that does make sense. Too bad Congress is filled with children.

88 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:19:52am

I fucking love Marco Rubio’s blossoming meltdown.

89 meteor  Dec 17, 2014 11:19:59am

re: #64 Dr. Matt

Which is a bigger failure: Trickle down economics or the Cuban embargo.

Yes.

90 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:20:11am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Peter Duke Mediocre Snapshot is stupid enough to hitch his wagon to a turd. It’s no wonder he’s defensive.

91 Mike Lamb  Dec 17, 2014 11:20:20am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Alan Gross is now getting Bowe Bergdahl’ed by the #tcot‘ers. My surprise, let me show you it.

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Argle bargle to eleventy!?!?!

No seriously, I know Twitter requires liberties with the English language, but what the fuck was that?

92 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:22:41am
93 Belafon  Dec 17, 2014 11:22:53am

re: #858 Belafon

The same gun toting patriot that is not longer in custody in Mexico?

94 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:22:56am
turned his back on a Patriot in Mexico

If that guy had been Hispanic and a civilian, he wouldn’t have been nearly as useful for twitter derpage.

95 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:23:18am

re: #91 Mike Lamb

Argle bargle to eleventy!?!?!

No seriously, I know Twitter requires liberties with the English language, but what the fuck was that?

They’re speaking Conservatese.

96 Shiplord Kirel  Dec 17, 2014 11:23:42am

Speaking of Alan Gross and the unnamed CIA agent, the right seems to have an especially big problem with any deal that gets our prisoners back. If it were up to these assholes, our pilots might still be rotting in the Hanoi Hilton. Fortunately Nixon was not made of the same stuff. And what does it say that Tricky Dick had a better ethical compass and far better instincts than the current crop?

97 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 11:24:24am

re: #94 jaunte

If that guy had been Hispanic and a civilian, he wouldn’t have been nearly as useful for twitter derpage.

He was a civilian when he crossed the boarder with a trunk full of guns. He was also released two months ago.

98 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 11:24:29am
99 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:25:13am

re: #94 jaunte

If that guy had been Hispanic and a civilian, he wouldn’t have been nearly as useful for twitter derpage.

If he hadn’t been caught with an illegal gun in Mexico, they could care less about him. What the hell do they expect Obama to do in that case anyhow? I mean I don’t want to sound heartless but the guy’s story just seems fishy to me. He’s not a human rights violation like Alan Gross was or a hostage like Bergdahl was. The guy is an American citizen who violated a neighboring country’s laws.

100 Dr Lizardo  Dec 17, 2014 11:25:17am

re: #29 KerFuFFler

The same people who rage against human rights violations in Cuba tend to be apologists for the torture regime and the base in Cuba no less.

I question their patriotism:

Ignorant motherfuckers…

Somewhere, George Washington weeps softly whenever the wingnuts invoke his name.

101 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:25:55am

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

He was a civilian when he crossed the boarder with a trunk full of guns. He was also released two months ago.

Oh he was released then? So yeah they’re complaining about a whole lot of nothing. Par the course.

102 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:26:55am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

The guy is an American citizen who violated a neighboring country’s laws.

I know, it’s just remarkable how he became a ‘Patriot’ point of indignation.

103 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:28:07am

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

…And what does it say that Tricky Dick had a better ethical compass and far better instincts than the current crop?

That they’ve been future shocked into dementia?

104 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:28:46am
105 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:28:52am

re: #102 jaunte

I know, it’s just remarkable how he became a ‘Patriot’ point of indignation.

What I’ve wanted to ask the people trumpeting this guy as a “patriot” what they would think of a former Mexican military member arrested here with tons of illegal arms. Hell knowing them they would probably see it as proof of the “reconquista.”

106 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:29:01am

re: #98 Charles Johnson

“Charles Johnson may be one of the most disliked men on the internet…..”

Nice opening salvo.

107 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 11:29:13am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Oh he was released then?

Mexico found him mentally unfit to stand trial. Still able to buy arsenal of guns in the US. USA! USA!

108 Zamb  Dec 17, 2014 11:29:16am

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

He was a civilian when he crossed the boarder with a trunk full of guns. He was also released two months ago.

Yea but he had previously been in the Marines, and as my right wing acquaintances have informed me Marines are magical heroes who embody freedom, liberty and all that is good in America. They are the bearers of the sacred truth who travel around the country teaching lessons to liberals. So basically he was a buzzword they could use to bash the “thug” in the White House.

109 allegro  Dec 17, 2014 11:29:20am

re: #104 FemNaziBitch

CUBANfood.org

Thanks!

110 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:30:04am

Some of the best Cuban food in Tampa (even our Prez has visited this place): westtampasandwichshoprestaurant.com

111 dholmes32  Dec 17, 2014 11:30:11am

Jeff Flake is my senator and I disagree with him on just about everything. Except this. I think the Cuban embargo is flat-out stupid. It was imposed when I was 4 months old and I will be 54.5 years old on Friday. So that’s how long this failed embargo has been in place.

112 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 17, 2014 11:30:41am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

113 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:30:42am

re: #108 Zamb

Yea but he had previously been in the Marines, and as my right wing acquaintances have informed me Marines are magical heroes who embody freedom, liberty and all that is good in America. They are the bearers of the sacred truth who travel around the country teaching lessons to liberals.

Unless they are Kragar, upsetting convervatives on Twitter.

114 allegro  Dec 17, 2014 11:31:02am

re: #106 Dr. Matt

“Charles Johnson may be one of the most disliked men on the internet…..”

Nice opening salvo.

Sounds like a bad business decision to me. What does this foul little bug have to say that anyone would want to pay to read?

115 #FergusonFireside  Dec 17, 2014 11:31:12am

re: #71 lawhawk

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Yeah, and I’m betting that Don King, Bob Arum and other boxing promoters are salivating at chance to get fights with and involving Cuban boxers.

116 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:32:35am

They’re probably very excited today at Hemmings Motor News.
google.com

117 Zamb  Dec 17, 2014 11:32:59am

re: #113 jaunte

Unless they are Kragar, upsetting convervatives on Twitter.

Well obviously Kragar is lying about his service. We all know all Marines are conservatives who don’t clap for the President unless he orders them to (seriously this meme shows up about once a month on my facebook).

118 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:33:47am

re: #116 jaunte

People in Cuba who own those cars might be getting a little bit more well off soon.

119 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 11:34:04am

*sigh*

Got a wingnut friend on Facebook posting about how awesome it would be if the U.S. passed a “Global 2nd amendment” so Americans could open carry their guns anywhere in the world.

Yes, REALLY.

I don’t know whether to respond or let him drown in his own stupidity.

120 Mike Lamb  Dec 17, 2014 11:34:19am

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of Alan Gross and the unnamed CIA agent, the right seems to have an especially big problem with any deal that gets our prisoners back. If it were up to these assholes, our pilots might still be rotting in the Hanoi Hilton. Fortunately Nixon was not made of the same stuff. And what does it say that Tricky Dick had a better ethical compass and far better instincts than the current crop?

No, no. You don’t get it. They want to get prisoners back:

1. If a Republican can do it or
2. Until a Democratic president does, then every price is too high.

121 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 11:34:35am

Taking bets on how long until CCJ tries to libel Gross. Bonus points if he includes his old college nemesis, Michael Wilner, who is following the story for the JPost.

122 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:35:02am

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

Respond.

123 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 11:36:05am

re: #122 The War TARDIS

well he already thinks I’m a raging liberal because I’ve argued with him before. Perhaps a response followed by an unfriending is the best move.

124 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 11:37:32am

re: #121 Ace-o-aces

Oh yes, he’s definitely going to be attacking Gross soon.

125 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:37:51am

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Attack first.

126 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:38:29am

GotNewsRemora

127 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:38:39am

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

*sigh*

Got a wingnut friend on Facebook posting about how awesome it would be if the U.S. passed a “Global 2nd amendment” so Americans could open carry their guns anywhere in the world.

Yes, REALLY.

I don’t know whether to respond or let him drown in his own stupidity.

Global 2nd amendment? I thought these types had a problem with global government. What these types flat out don’t get is that some of us simply don’t like guns. I myself have no desire to own a gun. I won’t begrudge someone who wants one for home protection but I have a big problem with the fetishists out there who think that owning a gun makes you more of an American or man.

128 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:39:03am

How does he keep his head stuck to the shark like that?

129 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 11:39:21am

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

*sigh*

Got a wingnut friend on Facebook posting about how awesome it would be if the U.S. passed a “Global 2nd amendment” so Americans could open carry their guns anywhere in the world.

Yes, REALLY.

I don’t know whether to respond or let him drown in his own stupidity.

Wait, would this be an international treaty so everyone could carry guns anywhere (because I doubt he would like that) or does he think the US can pass a law and other countries would then have to allow us to carry gun anywhere regardless of how they felt?

130 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 11:39:30am

I’m already seeing some Anti-Semitism trickle out of #tcot over Alan Gross.

131 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:40:04am

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

*sigh*

Got a wingnut friend on Facebook posting about how awesome it would be if the U.S. passed a “Global 2nd amendment” so Americans could open carry their guns anywhere in the world.

Yes, REALLY.

I don’t know whether to respond or let him drown in his own stupidity.

Why don’t you suggest that, while we’re at it, we pass a global repeal of the Universal Law of Gravitation?

132 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 11:40:16am

re: #129 Ace-o-aces

Wait, would this be an international treaty so everyone could carry guns anywhere (because I doubt he would like that) or does he think the US can pass a law and other countries would then have to allow us to carry gun anywhere regardless of how they felt?

Whichever is dumber, just assume that’s it. That’s what I do with most wingnuts and I’m rarely disappointed.

133 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:41:32am

More big news out of NY today (besides prohibiting fracking statewide).

They announced the location for 3 casinos to begin operating.

Kiamesha Lake is home to the former Concord hotel and resort. The others are in Schenectady, which is in the Capital District near Albany, and in Tyre, which is near Rochester in the Finger Lakes area. Nothing for the Western/Southern Tier.

Of the 3, the one that has the best chance of success is at the Concord site IMO primarily because of proximity to NYC. There’s still value with the name too.

134 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:42:16am

re: #132 Targetpractice

Like my cousin’s ex, who didn’t know what a Muslim was.

135 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 11:42:52am

re: #116 jaunte

They’re probably very excited today at Hemmings Motor News.
google.com

A Cuban-American friend tells me most of the “classics” have had a lot of the mechanicals replaced with bits from Soviet-era cars, Ladas and such. They might not be so great as all that….

136 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:42:58am

Also, great job to the Pope on this.

137 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:43:07am
138 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:43:40am

re: #137 jaunte

Attacks against MB in Libya?

139 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:44:07am

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe not fully original, but hot-rodders will love them for their bodies.

140 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:44:22am

re: #134 The War TARDIS

Like my cousin’s ex, who didn’t know what a Muslim was.

We recently had a president who didn’t know that there are two major sects within Islam so…

141 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:44:26am

re: #137 jaunte

I’m still going with moving the embassy to Jerusalem. But Obama might save that for the 8th night. /

142 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 11:45:10am

re: #136 The War TARDIS

Also, great job to the Pope on this.

Yeah, I imagine that’s gotta be some serious salt in the wound, that the Pope has been instrumental in making this happen.

143 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:46:07am

re: #134 The War TARDIS

Well, we have GOPers who demand that the US name the terrorists who were behind the Pakistani terror attack in Peshawar. They demanded he say the name Taliban, even though there are multiple factions, and despite the fact that most probably couldn’t identify on a map of the world where Pakistan was - let alone Peshawar (or spell it).

144 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:46:09am

Obviously Obama is lame-duck and can’t take any significant actions and how come President Obama never leads?

//

145 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:46:19am

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

If you have one original tail light you can legitimately build an authentic car from that.

146 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:46:33am

re: #142 Targetpractice

My parents still haven’t found a church since they moved to Dallas.

Let’s see if we can get them to cross the Tiber.

147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:47:16am

re: #121 Ace-o-aces

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Figures Obama always be releasing hostages and stuff OUTRAGE!!!!!!

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148 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:47:23am

re: #143 lawhawk

True. She became a laughing-stock of the family. They broke up not long after that.

149 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:49:03am

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of Alan Gross and the unnamed CIA agent, the right seems to have an especially big problem with any deal that gets our prisoners back. If it were up to these assholes, our pilots might still be rotting in the Hanoi Hilton. Fortunately Nixon was not made of the same stuff. And what does it say that Tricky Dick had a better ethical compass and far better instincts than the current crop?

we shoulda invaded Cuba to free the hostage and not given no prisoners and taken over Cuba because Freedom!!!!!!

150 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:49:44am

You just have to look at the polls where people are asked where Benghazi is. And I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard Islam referred to as a pagan religion by self fancied “Islam experts.”

151 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:50:11am

Gosh, Obama is sure trolling the hell out of TCOT these days. The immigration order…Cuba. Good stuff.

152 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:50:23am

Part of the deal - Cuba freed 50 political prisoners as well.

153 allegro  Dec 17, 2014 11:51:10am

re: #149 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

we shoulda invaded Cuba to free the hostage and not given no prisoners and taken over Cuba because Freedom!!!!!!

Indeed. It’s just no fun without bombs and guns and lots of that cool collateral damage stuff.

///

154 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:51:16am

re: #152 lawhawk

Part of the deal - Cuba freed 50 political prisoners as well.

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Seems to me that the only thing the Cuban government gained was the embargo ending which is something that will benefi the Cuban people even more in the greater scheme..

155 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:51:16am

re: #151 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Gosh, Obama is sure trolling the hell out of TCOT these days. The immigration order…Cuba. Good stuff.

I hope he invites the Michael Brown’s family to the White House.

156 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:52:21am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

That one is going to really infuriate them. How dare he thank Obama.

Props!!!!

157 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 11:52:37am

The only way to twist the knife more would be to make calling on Congress to end the embargo a part of the State of the Union Address.

158 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 11:52:57am
159 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 11:53:25am

re: #143 lawhawk

She had already treated my sister like crap.

So, to get a judge of character, when she came to me to try and help them to the rough patch in their relationship, I refused, and as a test of character, told her I was Muslim.

I was expecting a bigot. She was a moron. Which could be expected. She already had a kid at the age of 18, and her mom had kicked her out.

160 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 11:53:30am
161 3eff Jeff  Dec 17, 2014 11:53:31am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Global 2nd amendment? I thought these types had a problem with global government. What these types flat out don’t get is that some of us simply don’t like guns. I myself have no desire to own a gun. I won’t begrudge someone who wants one for home protection but I have a big problem with the fetishists out there who think that owning a gun makes you more of an American or man.

Heck. Some of us like guns, but think they’re a hazard and that any type of carry (open or concealed) is a dangerous anachronism.

I’ve enjoyed the time I’ve spent learning to care for, safely handle and shoot guns. But anymore, I’m not entirely comfortable with it as a hobby. There’s a lot of bad craziness there, and I don’t really want to be a part of it. (I do not own any guns. I learned to shoot as a kid, and I have considered getting back into it as an adult many times.)

162 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 11:53:42am

re: #158 lawhawk

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That would be huge. And despite what Marco believes, that will mean a ton to the Cuban people as opposed to the “Cuban people.”*
* Marco Rubio’s huge ego

163 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 11:53:47am
164 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 11:54:02am

(As-yet-hypothetical) removal of a federally-funded-and-enforced embargo sounds like good old Small-Government Free-Market Capitalism to me.

Three cheers for Dear Invisible-Handed Leader!

waitaminute

165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:54:19am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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The Castor brothers shoulda been killed long time ago. //

166 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:54:24am

The oleaginous Castor brothers.

167 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:54:42am
168 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:54:52am

re: #158 lawhawk

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IMPEACH!!!!!!1

169 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 11:55:17am

re: #160 darthstar

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They look like they’re up to shenanigans.

170 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 11:55:35am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

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HURR HURR DEMOCRAT VOTING PATTERN!!!!1!!1

171 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 11:55:41am
172 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 11:55:51am

re: #168 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

IMPEACH!!!!!!1

EMPEACH
INPEACH
SOMETHINGPEACH

173 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:56:04am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Wait til he gets a load of the Pollux brothers.

174 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 11:56:30am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Those Castor brothers are really awful. RT @gatewaypundit: ANGRY Cuban Americans Equate Obama to Castor Brothers at Miami Protest
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 17, 2014

Castor canadensis

American beaver
175 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:56:55am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Alan Gross is now getting Bowe Bergdahl’ed by the #tcot‘ers. My surprise, let me show you it.

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Dear me, these tcot troubled hearts sure do have some troubled hearts.

176 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:57:13am

re: #134 The War TARDIS

Like my cousin’s ex, who didn’t know what a Muslim was.

I had a boss who thought that “they” celebrated Christmas all over the ME because Christ was from “that part of the world.”

Of course they do, Christ was born over there.”

177 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 11:57:49am

Good God, we normalized relations with China while Mao was still in power. Mao, the guy whose regime had led to millions of deaths through starvation, poverty, and brutality. We’re buddies with the House of Saud, for fuck’s sake, a family that has been bankrolling guys like OBL for ages. Hell, we used to consider Saddam Hussein our friend in the region!

Don’t tell me that making piece with Fidel Castro is too much, wingnuts, because that’s a filthy fucking lie.

178 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 11:58:06am

re: #112 No Country For Old Haters

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Obama’s gonna open our border with Cuba?? Hells no!!! Then those commie cubans will come running across the border from Cuba to America!!!!!!

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179 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 11:58:18am

re: #171 jaunte

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Heard a story about people dancing in the streets of Havana upon the announcement.

180 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 11:58:38am

re: #161 3eff Jeff

Heck. Some of us like guns, but think they’re a hazard and that any type of carry (open or concealed) is a dangerous anachronism.

I’ve enjoyed the time I’ve spent learning to care for, safely handle and shoot guns. But anymore, I’m not entirely comfortable with it as a hobby. There’s a lot of bad craziness there, and I don’t really want to be a part of it. (I do not own any guns. I learned to shoot as a kid, and I have considered getting back into it as an adult many times.)

There are too many idiots out there. The myth of everyone learning to properly handle a firearm is just that.

Perhaps it was different before they repealed the draft, but not now.

181 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 11:59:17am

re: #174 Dr. Matt

Nice beaver.

182 BeachDem  Dec 17, 2014 11:59:19am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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And is he talking about Fidel and Raul or Julián and Joaquin CASTOR (sic/sick)?

183 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 12:00:13pm

re: #181 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nice beaver.

Thanks, I just had it stuffed.

184 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 12:00:41pm

re: #181 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nice beaver.

re: #183 Testy Toad T

Thanks, I just had it stuffed.

Banhammer time!

185 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:01:50pm

re: #171 jaunte

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More Castor Brother propaganda!

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186 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 12:02:23pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Those Castor brothers are really awful.

Always hated their oil.

187 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:02:48pm

re: #186 makeitstop

A Pollux on their house! /

188 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:03:01pm
189 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 12:03:18pm

re: #186 makeitstop

Always hated their oil.

And their castor wheels too.

190 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:03:40pm
191 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:03:47pm

Of course, the present opposition to ending the embargo will eventually give way to big business demands to get access to a market virtually untapped by American goods.

192 Eventual Carrion  Dec 17, 2014 12:03:58pm

re: #131 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Why don’t you suggest that, while we’re at it, we pass a global repeal of the Universal Law of Gravitation?

And I still want the letter ‘Q’ stricken from the English language.

193 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:04:25pm
“These 50 years have shown that isolation has not worked,” Mr. Obama said. “It’s time for a new approach.”

Hurr hurr isolation has never failed it has only been failed!!!!!!

194 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:04:27pm

re: #192 Eventual Carrion

And I still want the letter ‘Q’ stricken from the English language.

You got a problem with Quiet?

195 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:04:38pm

re: #189 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And their castor wheels too.

horrible on the little toes.

196 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:05:45pm
197 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 12:06:24pm

re: #192 Eventual Carrion

And I still want the letter ‘Q’ stricken from the English language.

All right, but “gh” as in enough or through has to be part of the deal.

198 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 12:06:34pm
199 Zamb  Dec 17, 2014 12:06:35pm

re: #194 FemNaziBitch

You got a problem with Quiet?

Kwiet

200 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:07:20pm

re: #139 jaunte

Maybe not fully original, but hot-rodders will love them for their bodies.

‘55. ‘56 and ‘57 Chevys. ‘55 and ‘56 Crown Vic Fords, etc.

There is a great Cuban-based (also southwest dishes) diner out in the Columbus ‘burb of Hilliard, The Starliner Diner (yes…named after the Cuban owner’s favorite Ford) where I bet it has been declared Happy Hour all day long. It was about a mile from where I used to work. Great place and very well known for their Media Noche (Pork, Ham, Swiss, Pickles and mustard) Sandwiches. Also great Cuban inspired roasted chicken and pork with black beans and plantains!

Now I am getting hungry again.

201 BeachDem  Dec 17, 2014 12:07:39pm
202 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 12:07:43pm

Go team Castor!

203 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:07:55pm

re: #198 Kid A

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And of course Jim ignores that many Cuban-Americans favored doing away with the embargo. If you’re going to liken Obama to CASTRO, Jim, learn how to spell the fucking name you fucking shit.

204 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:09:39pm

re: #198 Kid A

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ANGRY!!!

205 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:11:46pm
206 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:11:49pm

I like how Jim implies that because people are angry about it, it must mean Obama is wrong. Of course, if a Republican president does something like authorize torture, that’s great and presidential!

207 3eff Jeff  Dec 17, 2014 12:12:16pm

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

There are too many idiots out there. The myth of everyone learning to properly handle a firearm is just that.

It really is. I’m a bit mad at past me for taking so long, but Sandyhook was the one that finally drove home the point that what worked in Australia could work here and could have prevented a lot of tragedies.

Guns are too easy to get in this country. We’d be better off if they were less available.

Perhaps it was different before they repealed the draft, but not now.

Nah. My Dad, my Grandpa and I all had to sign up for the draft. I’m pretty sure only my Grandpa got any firearms training from the Government. And he signed up for the Navy in WWII rather than take the chance on getting drafted into the Army. My Dad got lucky in the late 60s and didn’t get called up for Vietnam (I think his birthday got 365). I had to sign up right before 9/11, and I spent a couple years being thankful that Vietnam had made actually implementing a draft political suicide.

There might have been a higher percentage of people who went through basic training, but there would still have been plenty of yahoos.

208 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:12:28pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I like how Jim implies that because people are angry about it, it must mean Obama is wrong. Of course, if a Republican president does something like authorize torture, that’s great and presidential!

Wingnuts are angry all the time about everything. Is that supposed to scare us?

209 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:12:47pm

re: #205 lawhawk

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But Mommy the man with the dumb grin who leaked the Iowa eye socket fracture said Cuban-Americans were angry.

210 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:13:28pm
211 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:13:46pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

They look like they’re up to shenanigans.

I’m trying to think back. When did Obama visit the Vatican? Earlier this year was it not?

They were both probably up to no-good right then. Sneaky commies…you just can’t trust those Catholics and Kenyan Muslims when they get together.

212 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:14:22pm

re: #210 jaunte

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Yeah because the embargo was working so so well Lindsay.

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 12:16:06pm

I got nothing…

214 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:16:13pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

EMPEACH
INPEACH
SOMETHINGPEACH

THIS PEACH!

Sarah is the Pits!!!

Sorry…just had to do it…again.

215 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:16:26pm

Seriously, if your argument against ending the embargo is “The Castros win,” then you’ve got no real argument. At that point, all you are is a pouty child who feels that anything less than total victory is a failure.

216 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:16:42pm

re: #207 3eff Jeff

It really is. I’m a bit mad at past me for taking so long, but Sandyhook was the one that finally drove home the point that what worked in Australia could work here and could have prevented a lot of tragedies.

Guns are too easy to get in this country. We’d be better off if they were less available.

Nah. My Dad, my Grandpa and I all had to sign up for the draft. I’m pretty sure only my Grandpa got any firearms training from the Government. And he signed up for the Navy in WWII rather than take the chance on getting drafted into the Army. My Dad got lucky in the late 60s and didn’t get called up for Vietnam (I think his birthday got 365). I had to sign up right before 9/11, and I spent a couple years being thankful that Vietnam had made actually implementing a draft political suicide.

There might have been a higher percentage of people who went through basic training, but there would still have been plenty of yahoos.

I just don’t get why anyone needs more than a shot gun and a cell phone for personal home defense.

Maybe a rottweiler or a chihuahua.

217 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:17:01pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

Those damn terrorits stealing our s’s.

218 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:17:17pm

re: #215 Targetpractice

Seriously, if your argument against ending the embargo is “The Castros win,” then you’ve got no real argument. At that point, all you are is a pouty child who feels that anything less than total victory is a failure.

NO apology tours!!!!!!!1

219 Eventual Carrion  Dec 17, 2014 12:17:38pm

re: #194 FemNaziBitch

You got a problem with Quiet?

Quite …. doh!

220 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 12:17:49pm

re: #211 ObserverArt

March 27, 2014

221 FemNaziBitch  Dec 17, 2014 12:17:52pm

re: #210 jaunte

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They must really be torn between economic exploitation opportunities and the 2016 election.

222 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:18:19pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

The Castor brothers are terrorits? I never knew. /

223 withak  Dec 17, 2014 12:18:25pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

I’m really rather impressed they were able to spell “administration” correctly. C+, guys, well done.

224 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 12:18:26pm
225 EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2014 12:18:41pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Yeah because the embargo was working so so well Lindsay.

Even the Republicans that aren’t barking mad are still totally useless oxygen thieves.

Lindsey Graham is a perfect example. He never misses a chance to opportunistically throw turds at Democrats, while studiously ignoring the GOP’s degeneration into aggressive stupidity and proto-fascism.

226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:19:19pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

The exile community has been dictating policy towards Cuba for 50 years. They’re used to being able to intimidate everyone.

227 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:19:24pm

re: #221 FemNaziBitch

The Base loves a staunch anti-commie.

228 3eff Jeff  Dec 17, 2014 12:19:27pm

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

I just don’t get why anyone needs more than a shot gun and a cell phone for personal home defense.

Because the Commies are coming. Probably from Cuba. /////

229 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:20:20pm

re: #228 3eff Jeff

Because the Commies are coming. Probably from Cuba. /////

They’re coming over the Cuba border that Obuma is going to OPEN!!!! //

230 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 12:20:41pm

re: #226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The exile community has been dictating policy towards Cuba for 50 years. They’re used to being able to intimidate everyone.

After 50 years they should be able to spell.

231 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:20:48pm

re: #226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The exile community has been dictating policy towards Cuba for 50 years. They’re used to being able to intimidate everyone.

It’s a real industry in South Florida. Now it might disappear.

232 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:20:57pm

re: #225 EPR-radar

Even the Republicans that aren’t barking mad are still totally useless oxygen thieves.

Lindsey Graham is a perfect example. He never misses a chance to opportunistically throw turds at Democrats, while studiously ignoring the GOP’s degeneration into aggressive stupidity and proto-fascism.

Right, he and his pal McCain who like to sell themselves as “the responsible ones” still engage in some pathetic shit slinging. But I get it, they have to act for their base because they’re scared little boys and they’re afraid of being primaried if they don’t act like right wing loons sometimes.

233 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 12:21:20pm
234 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:21:20pm

re: #188 FemNaziBitch

Fried Sweet Plantains — Plátanos Maduros

A good friend of mine who passed away a few years ago was married to a Puerto Rican and she turned all of us on to fried plantains. She also used to make a great spicy sour cream sauce to dip them in.

235 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 12:21:37pm

re: #222 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Castor brothers are terrorits? I never knew. /

It’s a “COMPIRACY”!!!11!!

236 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:21:40pm

re: #231 jaunte

It’s a real industry in South Florida. Now it might disappear.

If it ends up being part of Marco Rubio’s exit ticket from Washington, I’m all for it.

237 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 12:22:01pm

re: #225 EPR-radar

Even the Republicans that aren’t barking mad are still totally useless oxygen thieves.

Lindsey Graham is a perfect example. He never misses a chance to opportunistically throw turds at Democrats, while studiously ignoring the GOP’s degeneration into aggressive stupidity and proto-fascism.

Oh, but that’s just to make sure he gets re-elected and not primaried and he’ll move to the center after that, he’s not a true wingnut…

///

238 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:22:15pm

I just came up with a cruel way to fuck with the wingnuts. Spread a rumor that the White House is normalizing relations with Cuba in order to allow China and other communist nations to launder money for donations to Hillary’s campaign. Yeah, it’s total bullshit, which is why they’ll eat it up without a second thought.

239 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 12:22:35pm

re: #231 jaunte

It’s a real industry in South Florida. Now it might disappear.

World’s most useless buggy whip manufacturer.

240 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:22:56pm

re: #239 Testy Toad T

World’s most useless buggy whip manufacturer.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

241 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:23:39pm

re: #237 klystron

Oh, but that’s just to make sure he gets re-elected and not primaried and he’ll move to the center after that, he’s not a true wingnut…

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I beat you to that. But yes we were thinking of the same sad apologies for people like Graham and McCain who IMO are more detestable than those like Cruz since they have no real principles.

242 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 12:23:51pm

If the Pope was able to negotiate us and Cuba out of our corners, maybe we should involve him in the Iran-US negotiations.

243 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 12:23:52pm

re: #224 Ace-o-aces

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244 3eff Jeff  Dec 17, 2014 12:23:53pm

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

I just don’t get why anyone needs more than a shot gun and a cell phone for personal home defense.

Maybe a rottweiler or a chihuahua.

The previous joke was, of course, backhanded agreement. I’m pretty sure the last prominent gun owner who was openly honest about his reasons for his collection was Hunter S. Thompson.

245 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:24:08pm

re: #239 Testy Toad T

“What am I going to do with this warehouse of Cuba Libre bumper stickers?”

246 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 12:24:44pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I beat you to that. But yes we were thinking of the same sad apologies for people like Graham and McCain who IMO are more detestable than those like Cruz since they have no real principles.

Actually, I was just quasi-quoting DF.

247 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:25:37pm

re: #246 klystron

Actually, I was just quasi-quoting DF.

I was too though heh. Really I get tired of his excuses for this kind of political hackery.

248 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 12:25:42pm
249 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:25:45pm

re: #220 The War TARDIS

March 27, 2014

Ahhh..yes.

Beware the Ides of March…or something!

And now here we are.

/

250 3eff Jeff  Dec 17, 2014 12:26:03pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

That’s clearly going to run afoul of Poe’s Law. I wouldn’t have blinked if they came up with it on their own.

251 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:27:03pm

re: #250 3eff Jeff

That’s clearly going to run afoul of Poe’s Law. I wouldn’t have blinked if they came up with it on their own.

Just feed it to Alex Jones and watch the magic happen.

252 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:27:14pm

re: #229 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They’re coming over the Cuba border that Obuma is going to OPEN!!!! //

Awww…you’re all wet!

/

253 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 12:27:29pm

And to think I expected to be the one breaking out the Beaver jokes around here.

254 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 17, 2014 12:28:45pm

re: #210 jaunte

255 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:29:21pm

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Rubio is having a bad case of the sadz

I’m playing tiny little violins over here.

256 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:29:47pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Compiracy? Am I missing something in translation?

257 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 12:29:50pm

I’ve always been troubled by the fact Cuba is not square shaped…

258 Shiplord Kirel  Dec 17, 2014 12:29:58pm

From the ongoing freakout at Freepistan:

The threat posed by Cuba is no laughing matter. Michele Bachmann has stated that Hezbollah, the militant Muslim group based in Lebanon, had established training sites in Cuba and might even set up missile sites 90 miles from U.S. soil. And thus communist Cuba does pose grave danger to America.

259 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 12:30:13pm

Quick! Someone get Rubio some water!

/

260 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:30:18pm

re: #233 Dr. Matt

Dr. Matt @DrMatthew

The country patiently waits for Sarah Palin’s comments about the change in US-Cuba relations…..said no one. #Cuba

You got me. I said in the last thread I was awaiting The Word from Sarah.

Nothing political is cast in stone until Sarah speaks.

/

261 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:30:26pm

Rubio:

the “new policy is based on an illusion, on a lie” and sets a “dangerous precedent” that “will only cause other tyrants from Caracas to Tehran to Pyongyang to see that they can take advantage of President Obama’s naiveté during his final two years in office.”

Trying to remember the last administration to naively trade with Tehran…

262 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:30:38pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Michele Bachmann has stated that

Wait, I think I see the problem here….

263 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:30:45pm

Rubio’s been having a sad since he lost his right wing golden boy status over not being a total tool on immigration. If Marco was smart, he would have been a hack on immigration just like Mia Love and Ted Cruz even though both of them have parents that benefited from the same immigration policies they despise Obama wanting for other people’s parents.

264 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 12:31:14pm

re: #256 lawhawk

Compiracy? Am I missing something in translation?

You’ll have to ask the guys holding the signs in that photo.

265 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:31:25pm

re: #258 Shiplord Kirel

From the ongoing freakout at Freepistan:

*toketoketokecough* Nope, still doesn’t make sense.

266 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:31:42pm

re: #261 jaunte

Rubio:

Trying to remember the last administration to naively trade with Tehran…

Rubio sounds like a comment-er at FreeRepublic

267 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:31:58pm

re: #261 jaunte

Don’t look at me. It’s my bedtime /Zombie Reagan

268 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:32:01pm

re: #265 Targetpractice

Take a few more hits….

269 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:32:18pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

I just came up with a cruel way to fuck with the wingnuts. Spread a rumor that the White House is normalizing relations with Cuba in order to allow China and other communist nations to launder money for donations to Hillary’s campaign. Yeah, it’s total bullshit, which is why they’ll eat it up without a second thought.

Tweet it to Chucky C and it shall be spread…

…like manure.

270 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:32:24pm

re: #258 Shiplord Kirel

From the ongoing freakout at Freepistan:

So lemme get this straight. Hezbollah was just waiting for us to establish formal relations with Cuba again and then they would attack. Somehow I don’t think Congresswoman Crazy Eyes understands how terrorists actually operate.

271 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:32:50pm

re: #266 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Rubio sounds like a comment-er at FreeRepublic

Pretty much every Republican in Congress does but that is one of those feature not a bug things.

272 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 12:33:07pm

The Google “reviews” of Guantanamo Bay NAS

273 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:33:30pm

re: #258 Shiplord Kirel

might even set up missile sites 90 miles from U.S. soil.

Might. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

274 BeachDem  Dec 17, 2014 12:33:40pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

Is a compiracy when everybody dresses up as a pirate and says Argghh?

275 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 12:34:20pm

re: #260 ObserverArt

You got me. I said in the last thread I was awaiting The Word from Sarah.

Nothing political is cast in stone until Sarah speaks.

/

In reality, I think we all are looking forward to her asinine comments.

276 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:34:33pm

I still like where Michelle Bachmann ends up being a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood. Hey don’t look at me like that. I don’t really believe that as opposed to the wingnuts who actually believe that Obama’s a sleeper agent hellbent on destroying America.

277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:34:38pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

So lemme get this straight. Hezbollah was just waiting for us to establish formal relations with Cuba again and then they would attack.

You’re catching on….

///

278 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:35:01pm

re: #275 Dr. Matt

In reality, I think we all are looking forward to her asinine comments.

You have to take a shot if she mentions the Soviet Union in the present tense.

279 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:35:12pm

re: #275 Dr. Matt

Well, a word salad would go well with a Cubano, Cuba Libre, and a nice cigar for dessert. /

280 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:35:38pm

re: #277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

You’re catching on….

///

I wonder if Hezbollah and the Cuban government met on Tinder.

281 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:35:53pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

You have to take a shot if she mentions the Soviet Union in the present tense.

Just wait, I bet Obama will normalize relations with the Soviet Union, too. /

282 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:36:08pm

re: #261 jaunte

Rubio:

Trying to remember the last administration to naively trade with Tehran…

Heh! He was declared a Saint wasn’t he?

And for extra fun, it also tied into a central American country didn’t it?

Good times…good times.

/

283 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:38:02pm

re: #282 ObserverArt

Heh! He was declared a Saint wasn’t he?

And for extra fun, it also tied into a central American country didn’t it?

Good times…good times.

/

Yeah Iran-Contra. Funny how when they accuse Obama of coddling terrorists, they never mention that pathetic adventure. But I guess that’s because they could care less about the real fuck ups of the Reagan administration as opposed to their active fantasies where Obama laughs evily with the Iranians about how his secret plan to destroy the US from the inside by giving more Americans affordable health care. It’s downright dastardly I tell ya. Blofeld would find ti too evil.

284 BeachDem  Dec 17, 2014 12:38:29pm

re: #237 klystron

Oh, but that’s just to make sure he gets re-elected and not primaried and he’ll move to the center after that, he’s not a true wingnut…

///

As one of his constituents, I would describe him as definitely nut-like. He occasionally talks somewhat sanely, but he’s still pretty far right of center. BENGHAZI!!! That’s ALL his ads talked about, even after he’d defeated the nut clusters in his primary.

285 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:39:26pm

Meanwhile, took the day off to get some car stuff done. Had to go through state emissions test. Passed. But then needed tire replaced, been riding on a donut since Saturday. Turns out I also need another tire replaced and brakes done (but not today, no $$$$ for that).

286 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:39:57pm

re: #284 BeachDem

As one of his constituents, I would describe him as definitely nut-like. He occasionally talks somewhat sanely, but he’s still pretty far right of center. BENGHAZI!!! That’s ALL his ads talked about, even after he’d defeated the nut clusters in his primary.

She’s being sarcastic. Mocking this bs notion that Lindsay is a reasonable sane man who has to play the role of demagogue so he can prevent the nuts from taking his seat when as you get at, he’s plenty nuts himself.

287 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 12:41:28pm

re: #284 BeachDem

As one of his constituents, I would describe him as definitely nut-like. He occasionally talks somewhat sanely, but he’s still pretty far right of center. BENGHAZI!!! That’s ALL his ads talked about, even after he’d defeated the nut clusters in his primary.

Oh, I know.

But some people really like to cling to their delusions.

288 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:42:53pm

re: #284 BeachDem

As one of his constituents, I would describe him as definitely nut-like. He occasionally talks somewhat sanely, but he’s still pretty far right of center. BENGHAZI!!! That’s ALL his ads talked about, even after he’d defeated the nut clusters in his primary.

BENGHAZI took over Lindsey’s brain and the former posture of him being a sane GOP centrist was forever gone with the disease.

He’s never coming back.

For as we all have learned…there just isn’t a cure for BENGHAZI!

289 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 12:46:06pm

If a glance over at Breitbart is any indication, the wingnuts seem to want to settle on the idea that the embargo was working, the Castros were “on the ropes,” and the President is fucking it all up by not just waiting the whole thing out for another couple decades.

290 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:46:36pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

If a glance over at Breitbart is any indication, the wingnuts seem to want to settle on the idea that the embargo was working, the Castros were “on the ropes,” and the President is fucking it all up by not just waiting the whole thing out for another couple decades.

Another 50 years and the Castor brothers would have been dead for sure.

291 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 12:47:03pm

Jeb Bush on the President’s actions.

Hits all the GOP word salad choices. Executive overreach (hey, ever hear about a guy named George. Jeb might even be related to him). Benefiting Castros and their heinous human rights record (just ignore the Saudis, Egyptians, Pakistanis, Russians, Chinese, Laotians, and the Latin American autocrats along with all the other autocratic and totalitarian regimes the US had normalized relations with - completely ignoring or minimizing the horrendous human rights violations in those countries.

Nixon to China - with Mao still in power. He of the Long March and Great Leap forward and millions killed. Russia and the gulag archipelago. I could go on. Jeb’s father might know a thing or two from this too.

292 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 12:47:12pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

BENGHAZI took over Lindsey’s brain and the former posture of him being a sane GOP centrist was forever gone with the disease.

He’s never coming back.

For as we all have learned…there just isn’t a cure for BENGHAZI!

BENGHAZI: apply directly to the forehead.

293 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 12:47:35pm

re: #290 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well, yeah.

They might have a long life expectancy, but they aren’t time lords.

294 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:48:58pm

re: #291 lawhawk

Jeb Bush on the President’s actions.

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Hits all the GOP word salad choices. Executive overreach (hey, ever hear about a guy named George. Jeb might even be related to him). Benefiting Castros and their heinous human rights record (just ignore the Saudis, Egyptians, Pakistanis, Russians, Chinese, Laotians, and the Latin American autocrats along with all the other autocratic and totalitarian regimes the US had normalized relations with - completely ignoring or minimizing the horrendous human rights violations in those countries.

Nixon to China - with Mao still in power. He of the Long March and Great Leap forward and millions killed. Russia and the gulag archipelago. I could go on. Jeb’s father might know a thing or two from this too.

Yeah weak sauce.

295 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 12:49:13pm
296 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:50:39pm

re: #291 lawhawk

Blah blah blah. Sounds like the usual argle bargle churned out by the usual reactionaries.

297 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 12:51:32pm

re: #246 klystron

Actually, I was just quasi-quoting DF.

re: #291 lawhawk

If Jeb had just waited until after the new year to declare his interest in running for president, he could have avoided coming off like a fucking rube(io).

298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:51:45pm

So the party that is defending torture is upset about Cuba’s human rights record?

299 The War TARDIS  Dec 17, 2014 12:52:06pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Not to mention, Chinese human rights are still atrocious.

Look at how the PRC has treated Muslims.

300 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 12:52:48pm

re: #291 lawhawk

Jeb Bush on the President’s actions.

If a third-rate political family knock-off speaks in the middle of a right-wing babble, does anyone give a fuck?

301 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:52:48pm

href=”/showc/298/10627062” class=”rep”>#298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So the party that is defending torture is upset about Cuba’s human rights record?

I know, right?

302 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:52:49pm

re: #291 lawhawk

The benefactors of President Obama’s ill-advised move will be the heinous Castro brothers who have oppressed the Cuban people for decades.

I thought there was only one alive.

303 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:05pm

re: #291 lawhawk

They really do want to go to war with everyone don’t they?

304 Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:24pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

She also used to make a great spicy sour cream sauce to dip them in.

In Costa Rica they serve them with garlic mayo.

305 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:28pm
306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:34pm

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

They really do want to go to war with everyone don’t they?

Just Eurasia. We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

307 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:38pm

re: #298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So the party that is defending torture is upset about Cuba’s human rights record?

Our country is exceptional*.

* Exceptionally full of not-very-sharp thinkers.

308 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:51pm

Obama digs up Fidel, benefits him, reburies him.

309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:53:57pm

re: #305 darthstar

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More Obummer policy failures. //

310 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 12:54:13pm

re: #302 jaunte

I thought there was only one alive.

Losing face to dead people is the worst kind of losing face.

311 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 12:54:31pm

Awww…

Look at the cherubic Republican considering candidacy already out kissing wingnut butt.

Pucker up Jeb. You got a lot of ass to kiss in the next two years. Be sure to wash after each. And be sure to wipe the nose. It tends to discolor!

312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 12:54:37pm

re: #302 jaunte

I thought there was only one alive.

They’re both still kicking.

313 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 12:56:39pm

Remember, these are the same people who gets their shorts in a knot whenever someone, anyone, admits that America might have acted in some teensy-weensy not-very-nice way in the past.

Especially if that person is a *cough* black *cough* president.

314 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:56:56pm

Human rights! But water boarding isn’t torture and who cares if we tortured some innocent people! My God conservatives don’t even have an ideology. Just a reaction.

315 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 12:57:11pm

re: #309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

More Obummer policy failures. //

This is a historic fucking day no matter how you look at it. So nice of the GOP to volunteer to be on the wrong side of it as a group.

316 iossarian  Dec 17, 2014 12:57:30pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Human rights! But water boarding isn’t torture and who cares if we tortured some innocent people! My God conservatives don’t even have an ideology. Just a reaction.

Noun, verb, Obama is the debbil.

317 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 12:57:46pm

re: #315 darthstar

This is a historic fucking day no matter how you look at it. So nice of the GOP to volunteer to be on the wrong side of it as a group.

ISO9000 says they have to.

Procedure’s procedure.

318 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:57:55pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Hahahahaha!!! Pissed off another Lib!!!

319 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 12:58:25pm

re: #315 darthstar

This is a historic fucking day no matter how you look at it. So nice of the GOP to volunteer to be on the wrong side of it as a group.

They often are on the wrong side of history. It’s a right wing thing.

320 jaunte  Dec 17, 2014 12:59:15pm
321 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 1:00:24pm

re: #320 jaunte

To be fair, it can be hard to hear the difference between “sixteen” and “sixty” when you’re a grumpy old white dude.

322 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 1:00:40pm

I’m just waiting on the RWers to suggest Waterboarding Castro.

/

323 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2014 1:01:36pm

re: #321 Testy Toad T

To be fair, it can be hard to hear the difference between “sixteen” and “sixty” when you’re a grumpy old white dude.

I swear she told me she was old enough officer!

/

324 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 1:02:53pm

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

You owe me a vomit-free keyboard.

325 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 1:02:53pm

re: #14 b_sharp

Up here we’ve been able to get Cuban cigars for years.

Yea, but you don’t get Hulu!!!!

RBS

326 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 1:03:40pm

BEARS!!!

327 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 1:03:43pm

Wingnuts too young to remember a time before the Cuban embargo out there screaming that if we just wait long enough, the country will readily embrace democracy and freedom.

Oy.

328 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 1:04:57pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

BEARS!!!

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Annnnnnnnnd now Bryan Fischer is an alcoholic.

I hope you’re proud of yourself.

329 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:06:17pm

re: #327 Targetpractice

Wingnuts too young to remember a time before the Cuban embargo out there screaming that if we just wait long enough, the country will readily embrace democracy and freedom.

Oy.

Young whipper snappers like Jeb who are a youthful 61.

330 lawhawk  Dec 17, 2014 1:06:37pm

11 presidential pardons today (which is a huge number considering how few Obama has granted thus far).

331 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 1:06:48pm

I am liking this new Obama in his role as Jules Winnfield:
Pulp Fiction

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 1:06:49pm

re: #328 Testy Toad T

Annnnnnnnnd now Bryan Fischer is an alcoholic.

I hope you’re proud of yourself.

That was, indeed, my cunning plan…

333 EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2014 1:07:44pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

BENGHAZI took over Lindsey’s brain and the former posture of him being a sane GOP centrist was forever gone with the disease.

He’s never coming back.

For as we all have learned…there just isn’t a cure for BENGHAZI!

I submit that it is now categorically impossible to be a ‘sane GOP centrist’. The party as a whole is too extreme, malicious and crazy for that to be logically possible.

334 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:09:06pm

re: #330 lawhawk

11 presidential pardons today (which is a huge number considering how few Obama has granted thus far).

Obama abusing Pardon Authority!!!

/

335 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 1:09:13pm

Remember folks, sanctions against Russia and Iran will not work, but sanctions against Cuba will work if given time…another decade or two should work.

/////

336 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 1:09:23pm

Today I will bake chocolate chip cookies.

I’m sure it’s no coincidence that they start with C, just like Cuba.

OBAMA IS RUNNING A SOCIALIST PLOT IN MY KITCHEN!

337 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 1:09:26pm

re: #330 lawhawk

11 presidential pardons today (which is a huge number considering how few Obama has granted thus far).

and an old moonshiner:

338 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:09:47pm

Obama’s opening the prisons and letting everyone out!!!!!

/

339 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 1:10:00pm

OK, how did I not see this before?

Jules Winnfield Hockey Coach

340 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:10:16pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

and an old moonshiner:

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anarchy now!!!!

341 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:11:39pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

and an old moonshiner:

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Damn Obama enabling moonshiners.

342 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:12:17pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Damn Obama enabling moonshiners.

Dems hate God, release moonshiners….

///

343 Testy Toad T  Dec 17, 2014 1:13:19pm

re: #342 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

DEMOCRAT PARTY SOFT ON CRIME HANGOVERS

344 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:13:49pm

I’m really worried that Obama’s action on Cuba will poison the water in executive-legislative relations…

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345 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:14:18pm

1. Putin forgives Cuba’s 32$ bln. debt.
2. More or less right after that Obama re-establishes diplomatic relations with Cuba, thus making it harder to make it into a Russian political pawn.
3. Russian and American wingnuts are in helpless rage.

346 BlueSpotinAL  Dec 17, 2014 1:15:34pm

re: #298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Especially that base they have where they torture people. Guanta-ma something.

347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 1:16:28pm

re: #345 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

1. Putin forgives Cuba 32$ bln. debt.
2. More or less right after that Obama re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba, thus making it harder to make it a Russian political pawn.
3. Russian and American wingnuts are in helpless rage.

That X-dimensional chess stuff is something, isn’t it?

348 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:17:25pm

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That X-dimensional chess stuff is something, isn’t it?

Obama in way over his head.
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349 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 1:18:11pm

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Yes, I’m replying to myself, because I’m not sure which dimension he’s playing in atm, but I like it.

The only thing that would make it better would be if he did a SCOTUS nominee right about now.

350 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:18:13pm

Rubio: “Obama’s long record of coddling terrorists and tyrants.”

Donald Rumsfeld coddling a tyrant.

351 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:18:14pm

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That X-dimensional chess stuff is something, isn’t it?

This move is not so much brilliant as it is “criminal not to have been made”. Chess, checkers - wingnuts will still rage.

352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 17, 2014 1:18:36pm

re: #347 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That X-dimensional chess stuff is something, isn’t it?

We would have been much better off with president Romney saying NO APOLOGIES!!!!

That would have accomplished much. ///

353 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 1:18:59pm

The Ginger Avenger’s photographer is a dim-witted jackass.

354 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 1:19:28pm

re: #330 lawhawk

11 presidential pardons today (which is a huge number considering how few Obama has granted thus far).

David Neil Mercer of Grand Junction, Colorado, sentenced in 1997 in Utah to three years of probation for violation of the Archaeological Resources Protection Act

President Obama hates American Indians!!!!!!

355 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:20:12pm

re: #353 Charles Johnson

The Ginger Avenger’s photographer is a dim-witted jackass.

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I suppose he made those Chuck twitter photos that make him look like a corpse?

356 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:20:19pm

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357 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:20:25pm

re: #350 Kid A

Rubio: “Obama’s long record of coddling terrorists and tyrants.”

Donald Rumsfeld coddling a tyrant.

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Yep or Iran Contra but enough about the Reagan administration’s real record of coddling tyrants and terrorists.

358 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 1:21:18pm

re: #356 Kid A

359 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:22:29pm

And yes, Cuba is still a dictatorship, but I would sure prefer living in Cuba than in, say, Saudi Arabia.

360 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:24:52pm

More coddling.

361 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:25:17pm

I forget but was Rubio one of the Assad apoligists?

362 ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2014 1:25:45pm

re: #359 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

And yes, Cuba is still a dictatorship, but I would sure prefer living in Cuba than in, say, Saudi Arabia.

If this country elects a Republican president in ‘16 and keeps both halls of Congress GOP this country will in a way become a dictatorship.

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363 Dr. Matt  Dec 17, 2014 1:27:41pm

Cuban Teabagger?

From: miami.cbslocal.com

364 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 1:32:25pm

re: #360 Kid A

More coddling.

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I keep seeing the same picture of Carter and Arafat.

365 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 1:32:37pm

re: #350 Kid A

Rubio: “Obama’s long record of coddling terrorists and tyrants.”

Donald Rumsfeld coddling a tyrant.

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??? Carter and Arafat, what has that to do with Rumsfeld?

366 leftynyc  Dec 17, 2014 1:33:23pm

Has everyone already seen this:

huffingtonpost.com

One man charged the terrorist. Tori Johnson was 34. He managed the Lindt Chocolate Café for two years. Employees and customers all said he was a good man, a kind man. He was also a gay man.

Johnson tried to take the gun to protect the other hostages as they fled, but he was shot in the attempt. His attack distracted the terrorist. The others escaped and the sound of the gunshot brought in the police, who killed the armed man. Another hostage also died on the scene, but of a heart attack on the way to hospital after being shot.

Tori Johnson never went home that day, he died in hospital. He never again got to tell his partner of 14 years, Thomas Zinn, that he loved him, or that he wanted him to pick up his socks or any of the things one says to another who is the love of their life, with whom they share heart and home.

Tori’s partner Thomas, and his family, issued a statement: “We are so proud of our beautiful boy Tori, gone from this earth but forever in our memories as the most amazing life partner, son and brother we could ever wish for.”

367 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:34:29pm

re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah I just noticed that. Was trying to upload Reagan with the Taliban.

368 Decatur Deb  Dec 17, 2014 1:36:29pm

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Cuban Teabagger?

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From: miami.cbslocal.com

There is an embargo on “S”s in Miami. Have to dole them out.

369 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:37:06pm

re: #368 Decatur Deb

There is an embargo on “S”s in Miami. Have to dole them out.

An S in every pot!

370 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 1:37:24pm
371 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:38:27pm

Vee kent leeeft eet, iz too hevi.

372 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:39:16pm

re: #370 darthstar

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Hahaha. Oh man. He’s going to lose it when he finds out that we have and actually kept relations with the nation that put the nukes there.

373 Timothy Watson  Dec 17, 2014 1:41:57pm

re: #370 darthstar

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WE CAN’T HELP THE IRAQIS AGAINST ISIS BECAUSE OF THE PERSIAN GULF WAR!!1!

374 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 1:43:45pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Hahaha. Oh man. He’s going to lose it when he finds out that we have and actually kept relations with the nation that put the nukes there.

Inorite?

375 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 1:44:30pm

re: #296 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Blah blah blah. Sounds like the usual argle bargle churned out by the usual reactionaries.

Conservative think tank-approved!

376 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 1:44:54pm

I wonder if Ted Cruz’s dad can collect his back pay from Fidel legally now?

377 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:45:09pm

I tuned in to Sean Hannity to hear the predictable freak out and I concluded that he is as stupid as Dim Jim.

378 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:46:26pm

re: #375 makeitstop
Conservatives think?

379 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:48:11pm

Hey, I got no problem with the Republican position as long as they openly run on reestablishing the embargo and severing the diplomatic relations again. Gotta be consistent, eh.

half-/

380 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 1:49:51pm
382 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 1:52:12pm

re: #380 Kid A

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i guess Nixon was a Marxist too and Reagan too by that standard.

383 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 1:52:24pm

re: #377 Kid A

I tuned in to Sean Hannity to hear the predictable freak out and I concluded that he is as stupid as Dim Jim.

And that takes some doing!!!

Honestly, I really do not get what is the big hairy deal about Cuba, apart from the inability to admit that something we’ve been doing since the Corvair was brand new and no human had ever gone to space has failed. We trade every day, and in large volumes, with countries with much worse human rights records, who pose a far greater threat to us.

384 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 1:58:21pm

Well

Seriously, they should release it online for free download with suggested donation.
That way many more people will see it.

385 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 1:58:40pm

Having a hard giving a crap about the wingnut whinage.

386 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 1:59:09pm

re: #360 Kid A

More coddling.

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All your pics are displaying as Carter-Arafat for me.

387 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 1:59:43pm

re: #384 blueraven

Why did the chains pull out? Terrorist threat from NK?

388 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 2:00:56pm

re: #387 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Why did the chains pull out? Terrorist threat from NK?

yep. citing legal liability.

389 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 2:01:24pm

re: #388 blueraven

yep. citing legal liability.

Pity. Yeah, they should indeed make it available online.

390 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 2:03:10pm

Dare I suggest giving Guantanamo back to where it belongs?

391 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 2:05:08pm

The developers behind Goat Simulator really need to update the game with a DLC that allows your goat to publish a very serious conservative news website.

Goat Simulator Official Launch Trailer

392 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 2:05:44pm

Whoa, color me shocked. Wingnut, Eric Bolling, of Fox News (The Five) loves Obama’s Cuba policy!

393 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 2:06:29pm

So the terrorists won?

394 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 2:08:04pm

re: #392 blueraven

Whoa, color me shocked. Wingnut, Eric Bolling, of Fox News (The Five) loves Obama’s Cuba policy!

Blind pig. Acorn.

395 Shiplord Kirel  Dec 17, 2014 2:09:38pm

The meltdown continues apace. The RWNJs have already linked the new Cuban policy to Islam, Mexico, and Satan. Now they are just working out the details.
One freeper puts his finger on why Cuba is different from China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and other less than benign regimes with whom we have diplomatic relations:

Cuba is merely 90 miles away, thus making that barbaric country an existential threat.(emphasis added)

It’s all those Hezbollah missiles no doubt.

There is some dissent in freeperland, including some from cigar aficianados, and this hard-nosed type, who may not in fact be wrong:

There is one other reason I see this as a smart move.
If we want to effect regime change in Cuba, we need an American embassy in Havana staffed with CIA officers. The only way we can find out definitively what is going on is to have those officers recruit agents inside the Cuban government, as the CIA does in governments all over the world. It’s how we can get our tentacles into Cuba.

Tentacles? Oh my! Buwahaahaa!

396 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 2:12:13pm

re: #390 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Dare I suggest giving Guantanamo back to where it belongs?

I hope that renewing relations means the service members stationed at Gitmo will eventually be able to take their off base leave in Cuba proper. Cuba may well see the base as a huge asset if those billeted there are finally allowed to start spending money in the local economy.

397 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 2:12:20pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

Cuba is merely 90 miles away, thus making that barbaric country an existential threat.(emphasis added)

I’m thinking the person who wrote that doesn’t understand the words “existential threat”.

398 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 2:12:22pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

Linky not worky ;)

399 dog philosopher  Dec 17, 2014 2:14:33pm

Latest Obama Moves Extremely Unpopular With People Who Would Never Ever Consider Voting For A Democrat

according to pollster calculations, they can sit on it for all anybody cares

400 dog philosopher  Dec 17, 2014 2:15:39pm

re: #397 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m thinking the person who wrote that doesn’t understand the words “existential threat”.

communists will make ‘no exit’ required reading in all hi skuulz

401 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 2:18:25pm
402 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 2:19:37pm

re: #396 goddamnedfrank

I wonder if I can book a trip to Havana to see The Interview. Sure is gonna be hard to find a theater in the US.

403 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 2:30:58pm

re: #402 Rightwingconspirator

I wonder if I can book a trip to Havana to see The Interview. Sure is gonna be hard to find a theater in the US.

It’s a relief to see that the billions we’ve spent on homeland security have ensured that terrorists aren’t able to push us around here in the continental US. Seems a waste of money when you consider that we could be frightened by our own shadows for free.

404 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 2:31:01pm
405 Decatur Deb  Dec 17, 2014 2:31:23pm

re: #400 dog philosopher

communists will make ‘no exit’ required reading in all hi skuulz

All of Freep is a phenomenological essay on Derp.

406 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 17, 2014 2:36:38pm

re: #133 lawhawk

More big news out of NY today (besides prohibiting fracking statewide).

They announced the location for 3 casinos to begin operating.

Kiamesha Lake is home to the former Concord hotel and resort. The others are in Schenectady, which is in the Capital District near Albany, and in Tyre, which is near Rochester in the Finger Lakes area. Nothing for the Western/Southern Tier.

Of the 3, the one that has the best chance of success is at the Concord site IMO primarily because of proximity to NYC. There’s still value with the name too.

Southern Tier already has a couple. Salamanca, and one near Elmira at a racetrack.

407 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 2:41:03pm

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It’s a relief to see that the billions we’ve spent on homeland security have ensured that terrorists aren’t able to push us around here in the continental US. Seems a waste of money when you consider that we could be frightened by our own shadows for free.

As a people we have gotten terribly soft and fearful.

408 Decatur Deb  Dec 17, 2014 2:42:10pm

re: #406 Feline Fearless Leader

Southern Tier already has a couple. Salamanca, and one near Elmira at a racetrack.

And there aren’t enough marks to put one near Kinzua, on the PA side.

409 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 2:42:27pm

Werner Herzog narration always adds a little something to whatever. I’d like to see him do Cuba.

That is all.

410 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 17, 2014 2:46:26pm

Well, that’s something interesting to wake up to. I’ve always said the easiest way to destroy Cuban communism is to end the embargo.

411 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 2:48:26pm

Sony pulled the plug. Caved in to the Hermit King. Wow.
Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

412 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 2:50:27pm

re: #411 Rightwingconspirator

Sony pulled the plug. Caved in to the Hermit King. Wow.
Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

They really didn’t have much choice. All major theater groups pulled out from showing it.

413 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 2:52:15pm

re: #412 blueraven

Cowardly behavior all around. So where is anon when you need ‘em? Love to see that movie embedded in their site.

.

korea-dpr.com

414 ipsos  Dec 17, 2014 2:52:20pm

re: #406 Feline Fearless Leader

Southern Tier already has a couple. Salamanca, and one near Elmira at a racetrack.

The “near Elmira” one is Tioga Downs - not a full-fledged casino with table games but rather a “racino” with slots and video poker. We have a couple of those flanking Rochester at Finger Lakes Racetrack and Batavia Downs, too.

415 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 2:55:14pm

re: #412 blueraven

They really didn’t have much choice. All major theater groups pulled out from showing it.

Next we’ll close all of the airports because someone sent an email threatening something. Let’s all just dig holes, crawl into them, and stay there until we die.

416 thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2014 2:58:47pm

re: #415 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Next we’ll close all of the airports because someone sent an email threatening something. Let’s all just dig holes, crawl into them, and stay there until we die.

Mrs. Fish says, “Seriously? We’re afraid of North Korea? This whole thing is like giving in to a toddler throwing a tantrum.”

417 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 3:00:25pm

I hope Sony announces a new release date. How about Feb 14th?

Honors the day when Kim Jong Il received the title “Generalissimo of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” posthumously in 2012.[1]

418 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:02:57pm

I gotta be honest, the entire premise for The Interview seems kinda ‘tarded.

I feel old and protective of my lawn.

419 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 3:03:31pm

Look I am against this stupid pandering to NK tactics, but honestly who thought this movie was a good idea in the first place?

420 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 3:05:22pm

Got this on Twitter:

Does anyone have an idea which photo she’s talking about? Is it in a Page somewhere, maybe?

421 thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2014 3:05:29pm

re: #418 goddamnedfrank

I gotta be honest, the entire premise for The Interview seems kinda ‘tarded.

I feel old and protective of my lawn.

I’m really not a huge fan of these kinds of movies, actually. In fact, I probably would’ve gone to see it, Mrs. Fish would be dying of laughter, and I’d have my face in my hands, utterly embarrassed. I just don’t get into Seth Rogen-esque humor. However, I think it’s utterly stupid that they’re giving in to the Dictator-Across-The-Sea on this. I mean, really.

422 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:05:56pm

re: #418 goddamnedfrank

To me the premise rarely matters, it’s but a vehicle to showcase the talent, the charisma, the interplay between the actors, whatever. All that absent, even the best premise will flop.

423 Jenner7  Dec 17, 2014 3:06:02pm

Did NK have a fit when this movie came out? I can’t remember…

424 thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2014 3:06:28pm

re: #423 Jenner7

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Did NK have a fit when this movie came out? I can’t remember…

I’m almost certain that they did, now you mention it.

425 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:06:54pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Devone Hart?

426 gwangung  Dec 17, 2014 3:07:48pm

re: #411 Rightwingconspirator

Sony pulled the plug. Caved in to the Hermit King. Wow.
Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

I get a strong whiff of GamerGaters here. The communiques read like what a white person would think a North Korean person would say.

427 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:08:20pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Who the fuck is jfoto and what kind of halfassed operation uses Twitter to make an accusation of copyright infringement?

428 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 3:08:24pm

re: #418 goddamnedfrank

I gotta be honest, the entire premise for The Interview seems kinda ‘tarded.

I feel old and protective of my lawn.

I’m with you. Who green-lighted that project? Didn’t they have a clue that a film about assassinating an international leader would cause some blowback?

429 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:09:17pm

re: #427 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Who the fuck is jfoto and what kind of halfassed operation uses Twitter to make an accusation of copyright infringement?

Not to mention that she is so self-absorbed she forgot to specify what photo she means.

430 thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2014 3:09:44pm

re: #427 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Who the fuck is jfoto and what kind of halfassed operation uses Twitter to make an accusation of copyright infringement?

I think the DMCA specifies the format a takedown notice has to take, doesn’t it?

431 makeitstop  Dec 17, 2014 3:10:01pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Got this on Twitter:

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Does anyone have an idea which photo she’s talking about? Is it in a Page somewhere, maybe?

Maybe in someone’s library?

432 gwangung  Dec 17, 2014 3:10:34pm

re: #422 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

To me the premise rarely matters, it’s but a vehicle to showcase the talent, the charisma, the interplay between the actors, whatever. All that absent, even the best premise will flop.

Actually, my interest is personal, as well. I know Randall Park slightly and have worked together with the female Asian lead on several shows.

Kinda disappointed for her, actually….

433 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:12:46pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Got this on Twitter:

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Does anyone have an idea which photo she’s talking about? Is it in a Page somewhere, maybe?

Best guess so far: I think klys posted shots similar to this and this a couple of months ago. I believe they were klys’s own shots from her vacation. Check klys’s image library to confirm.

434 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 3:12:55pm

Watching Fox for the fucked-up factor…Rubio just doubled down on calling on the Pope to speak to freedom and democracy.

435 bratwurst  Dec 17, 2014 3:13:20pm

Surprised it took so many hours to get to this:

436 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:14:13pm

re: #435 bratwurst

Surprised it took so many hours to get to this:

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He one time smoked marijuana with Michael Brown while rapping obviously.

437 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:15:07pm

re: #435 bratwurst

Surprised it took so many hours to get to this:

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For context: Chuck defended Mel Gibson.

438 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:15:24pm

re: #434 darthstar

Watching Fox for the fucked-up factor…Rubio just doubled down on calling on the Pope to speak to freedom and democracy.

Like Marco gives an actual damn about freedom and democracy in this country given his opposition to gays having any rights under the law. That little weasel is just desperate because he knows that he’s not the flavor of the month anymore like he was two years ago.

439 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:15:31pm

re: #433 goddamnedfrank

Best guess so far: I think klys posted shots similar to this and this a couple of months ago. I believe the were klys’s own shots from her vacation. Check klys’s image library to confirm.

Yeah, I did post some Multinomah Falls photos from our July roadtrip that are …vaguely similar because really, there aren’t that many angles you can do of the falls.

I hope it’s something other than that, because …well, here’s mine.

This is the closest?
440 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:16:08pm

re: #433 goddamnedfrank

Charles, this is the one I’m talking about.

441 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:16:56pm

re: #437 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

For context: Chuck defended Mel Gibson.

Bigots of a feather something something.

442 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:17:10pm

re: #430 thedopefishlives

I think the DMCA specifies the format a takedown notice has to take, doesn’t it?

My only experience with copyright was to do with print. Even so, I think that DCMA involves more than “U got my pitcher so stop” on fucking Twitter.

443 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:17:20pm

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

Oh yeah, there’s that one too.

Both of those are my own work.

444 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 17, 2014 3:17:26pm

re: #435 bratwurst

Surprised it took so many hours to get to this:

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I’m waiting to see if he goes anti-Semitic on it.

445 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:17:54pm

re: #439 klystron

Yeah, I did post some Multinomah Falls photos from our July roadtrip that are …vaguely similar because really, there aren’t that many angles you can do of the falls.

I hope it’s something other than that, because …well, here’s mine.

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OK seriously, asshole photogs, if you don’t want ppl using your photos, use a watermark!

446 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:18:02pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Bigots of a feather something something.

Poop on the floor together.

(nsfw)
Mel Gibson shit all over Cartmans face

447 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:18:29pm

re: #446 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Poop on the floor together.

(nsfw)
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Aww come on dude, I’m going to be having dinner soon.

448 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:18:41pm

re: #439 klystron

Yeah, I did post some Multinomah Falls photos from our July roadtrip that are …vaguely similar because really, there aren’t that many angles you can do of the falls.

I hope it’s something other than that, because …well, here’s mine.

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It’s the only shot from either her personal photography website or from her Instagram gallery that’s even vaguely familiar, and if it’s what she’s referring to unless she owns the likeness to a public landmark she’s SOL.

449 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:19:39pm

So wait a tick here, Chuckles is actually curious about a guy who got imprisoned by the Cuban government. The same Cuban government that is so authoritarian I’m told that we can’t even have trade relations with them? Strange fruit. Me thinks the Ginger Boy King needs to take a nap.

450 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 3:19:51pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Got this on Twitter:

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Does anyone have an idea which photo she’s talking about? Is it in a Page somewhere, maybe?

Who send legal notices on Twitter? Other than ChuckC?

451 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:20:54pm

re: #448 goddamnedfrank

It’s the only shot from either her personal photography website or from her Instagram gallery that’s even vaguely familiar, and if it’s what she’s referring to unless she owns the likeness to a public landmark she’s SOL.

I’m not going to give her shit for reaching out to a website owner first before pursuing an actual legal request, and I can sort of get doing so publicly (maybe) …but at least specify the image? That’s just sloppy otherwise.

452 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:20:56pm

re: #442 Higgs Boson’s Mate

My only experience with copyright was to do with print. Even so, I think that DCMA involves more than “U got my pitcher so stop” on fucking Twitter.

Not only is there more involved, there’s also a counter-notice for filing bullshit claims of infringement (although it’s not used nearly enough).

453 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:20:57pm

re: #439 klystron

I’m not a groovy professional fotographer and even I know that you can easily embed an invisible digital watermark in your photos. This country seems to be getting overrun by assholes with delusions of adequacy.

454 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 3:21:28pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, he’s definitely going to be attacking Gross soon.

Aaaaaaand here we go.
OK, so who had 6:07 Eastern Time in the pool?

455 ipsos  Dec 17, 2014 3:22:14pm

re: #445 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

OK seriously, asshole photogs, if you don’t want ppl using your photos, use a watermark!

Yeah, really. UpChuck does it all the time, people!

//

456 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:22:23pm

re: #451 klystron

I’m not going to give her shit for reaching out to a website owner first before pursuing an actual legal request, and I can sort of get doing so publicly (maybe) …but at least specify the image? That’s just sloppy otherwise.

I will. That’s better handled via e-mail.

457 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 3:22:29pm

re: #435 bratwurst

Surprised it took so many hours to get to this:

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I don’t think he gets up until 5.

458 HappyWarrior  Dec 17, 2014 3:22:55pm

re: #457 Ace-o-aces

I don’t think he gets up until 5.

His mom had to change his diaper first.

459 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:23:38pm

re: #458 HappyWarrior

His mom had to change his diaper pick up his bottle of gin first.

FTFY

460 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 17, 2014 3:23:57pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

The meltdown continues apace. The RWNJs have already linked the new Cuban policy to Islam, Mexico, and Satan. Now they are just working out the details.
One freeper puts his finger on why Cuba is different from China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and other less than benign regimes with whom we have diplomatic relations:

It’s all those Hezbollah missiles no doubt.

There is some dissent in freeperland, including some from cigar aficianados, and this hard-nosed type, who may not in fact be wrong:

Tentacles? Oh my! Buwahaahaa!

I think the alternate plan is to load Cuba full of Muslims and other disagreeable types, then use HAARP and global warming to trigger increased tectonic plate movement. Cuba rams into Florida to allow the invasion to commence while the California Plate amscrays into the Pacific to protect all the liberals from harm and retaliation.
////

461 blueraven  Dec 17, 2014 3:25:08pm

re: #459 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

FTFY

No No No! first the diaper, then the bottle!

462 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:25:11pm

re: #456 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I will. That’s better handled via e-mail.

I know sometimes things are taken public because it can be easier/cheaper to leverage the public instead of lawyers, especially when you have a small artist dealing with a large corporation (the situation I normally see it used in).

Here, I would have gone with e-mail. But most importantly, I would not have assumed that my work is so well known that it should be self-obvious which image I am referring to.

463 thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2014 3:25:18pm

re: #453 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m not a groovy professional fotographer and even I know that you can easily embed an invisible digital watermark in your photos. This country seems to be getting overrun by assholes with delusions of adequacy.

People seem to think they can sue anyone, anytime, for anything. This is doubly true for copyright and patent trolls.

464 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:26:08pm

Lemme get this right - that psycho truth2bob used to work for Chuck, turned on him after being dumped?

465 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:26:27pm

re: #462 klystron

I know sometimes things are taken public because it can be easier/cheaper to leverage the public instead of lawyers, especially when you have a small artist dealing with a large corporation (the situation I normally see it used in).

Here, I would have gone with e-mail. But most importantly, I would not have assumed that my work is so well known that it should be self-obvious which image I am referring to.

I can see that, but I also know that a quick, professional e-mail can often ameliorate a multitude of sins.

466 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 17, 2014 3:26:36pm

re: #419 blueraven

Look I am against this stupid pandering to NK tactics, but honestly who thought this movie was a good idea in the first place?

They saw how well the remake of “Red Dawn” did with the featuring of North Koreans and thus just had to go with it.
//

467 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:27:04pm

re: #460 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the alternate plan is to load Cuba full of Muslims and other disagreeable types, then use HAARP and global warming to trigger increased tectonic plate movement. Cuba rams into Florida to allow the invasion to commence while the California Plate amscrays into the Pacific to protect all the liberals from harm and retaliation.
////

Have you thought about a late-night AM radio talk show?

468 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:29:55pm

re: #464 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Lemme get this right - that psycho truth2bob used to work for Chuck, turned on him after being dumped?

I thought so too, but no. Pretty sure it’s just some guy who’s been trolling CCJ long and hard.

469 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:30:14pm

re: #451 klystron

I’m not going to give her shit for reaching out to a website owner first before pursuing an actual legal request, and I can sort of get doing so publicly (maybe) …but at least specify the image? That’s just sloppy otherwise.

Her approach isn’t very professional. She’s not even asking, she’s categorically stating that he is in fact using one of her photos without permission, yet she fails to say which one or at least provide a description and/or a URL. She could’ve sent him a message privately or filled out the contact form and provided the info.

470 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 3:31:07pm

471 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:33:07pm

re: #469 CuriousLurker

Her approach isn’t very professional. She’s not even asking, she’s categorically stating that he is in fact using one of her photos without permission, yet she fails to say which one or at least provide a description and/or a URL. She could’ve sent him a message privately or filled out the contact form and provided the info.

Yeah, I agree. I should have been clearer that the only thing I am not giving her shit for is attempting to have a dialog with the website owner before resorting to a full DCMA takedown request.

472 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:33:50pm

re: #425 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Devone Hart?

Heh, I was right:

littlegreenfootballs.com

473 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:34:20pm

re: #471 klystron

Yeah, I agree. I should have been clearer that the only thing I am not giving her shit for is attempting to have a dialog with the website owner before resorting to a full DCMA takedown request.

That acronym should have been DMCA.

I can’t even claim it’s Monday.

474 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:34:30pm

re: #460 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the alternate plan is to load Cuba full of Muslims and other disagreeable types, then use HAARP and global warming to trigger increased tectonic plate movement. Cuba rams into Florida to allow the invasion to commence while the California Plate amscrays into the Pacific to protect all the liberals from harm and retaliation.
////

You’ve gone and given away our diabolical plan. Now we have to go back to using the edge of the Pacific plate to push up the seabed around Catalina Island until it’s higher than sea level. Thanks a lot.

475 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 3:34:57pm

It’s kind of weird to send a note like that and then nothing for more than an hour, when I responded right away. That weenie Peter Duke immediately retweeted and favorited her tweet, and I’m now starting to wonder if he put her up to it.

476 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:35:03pm

re: #471 klystron

Yeah, I agree. I should have been clearer that the only thing I am not giving her shit for is attempting to have a dialog with the website owner before resorting to a full DCMA takedown request.

I wouldn’t *start* with Twitter, though. Especially given Charles’ general openness with responding to requests. I’ve had foreign sites steal content before (literally, word-for-word), and that’s a different order of magnitude.

477 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:35:27pm

re: #472 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Heh, I was right:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks for finding what she should have provided in the first place.

478 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:37:00pm

I don’t understand the mindset though. The photo is attributed to her. Free ad, as it were.

479 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 3:38:12pm

re: #478 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t understand the mindset though. The photo is attributed to her. Free ad, as it were.

She’s at least been consistent? She went after the linked article (where it came from) when it was posted.

She’s also got consistently unprofessional spelling.

480 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 3:38:24pm

I deleted the photo from that Page - thanks for finding it.

481 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:38:53pm

re: #478 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t understand the mindset though. The photo is attributed to her. Free ad, as it were.

Charles has safe harbor protection here, fwiw.

482 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 3:40:01pm
483 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:40:05pm

re: #471 klystron

Yeah, I agree. I should have been clearer that the only thing I am not giving her shit for is attempting to have a dialog with the website owner before resorting to a full DCMA takedown request.

It sets my spidey sense to tingling. Charles gets into it on Twitter with that Perter Duke photographer guy who appears to be an UpChuck fanboy, then all of a sudden some other photographer comes out of the blue publicly alleging copyright infringement, but failing to provide any details? What a coincidence. //

484 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:40:40pm

Interestingly, I think the Daily Mail got into some shit about a rocket launch when they posted someone’s photo from an airplane without attribution or payment.

I think photogs should get paid for their stuff, btw.

485 Amory Blaine  Dec 17, 2014 3:41:12pm

Revolution in Kiev, Ukraine

Want to repost this.

486 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2014 3:41:13pm

re: #428 makeitstop

I’m with you. Who green-lighted that project? Didn’t they have a clue that a film about assassinating an international leader would cause some blowback?

That rarely stops a script writer. then if it’s seen as a great script, it’s on. Maybe, the process is severe, but largely insensitive to external politics.

Am I right gwangung ?

487 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 3:42:40pm

re: #480 Charles Johnson

I deleted the photo from that Page - thanks for finding it.

What about the foto?

488 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:42:52pm

re: #485 Amory Blaine

Be careful with Varlamov (zyalt). He’s been known to be “on payroll”, all the while posing as a pro-democratic blogger.

489 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:43:39pm

re: #478 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t understand the mindset though. The photo is attributed to her. Free ad, as it were.

Considering that it’s the only example of her work that’s likely to make it beyond her personal web site I think that she’s cutting off her nose to spite her face.

490 Iwouldprefernotto  Dec 17, 2014 3:44:23pm

re: #489 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Considering that it’s the only example of her work that’s likely to make it beyond her personal web site I think that she’s cutting off her nose to spite her face.

Perhaps she’s looking for money.

491 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:44:47pm

re: #478 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t understand the mindset though. The photo is attributed to her. Free ad, as it were.

It doesn’t matter. Unless it falls under fair use—which is notoriously legally shaky/vague—you cannot use someone else’s intellectual property without their permission.

492 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:45:08pm

re: #473 klystron

That acronym should have been DMCA.

I can’t even claim it’s Monday.

It’s fun to stay at the D.M.C.A.
It’s fun to stay at the D.M.C.A.

493 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:45:25pm

re: #491 CuriousLurker

It doesn’t matter. Unless it falls under fair use—which is notoriously legally shaky/vague—you cannot use someone else’s intellectual property without their permission.

It’s not about what’s legal.

494 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:45:56pm

creativecommons.org is your friend.

495 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:46:56pm

re: #493 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s not about what’s legal.

No, it’s always about what’s legal.

What’s just, fair, right, ethical, etc. all fall before “what is legal.”

496 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:47:34pm

re: #495 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

No, it’s always about what’s legal.

What’s just, fair, right, ethical, etc. all fall before “what is legal.”

It’s not about what is just, fair, right or ethical either ;)

497 gwangung  Dec 17, 2014 3:48:15pm

re: #486 Rightwingconspirator

That rarely stops a script writer. then if it’s seen as a great script, it’s on. Maybe, the process is severe, but largely insensitive to external politics.

Am I right gwangung ?

Pretty much, though this script was star driven, with a lot of improv on the set. There, the wishes of Rogen and Franco were given top priority…

498 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:48:45pm

re: #483 CuriousLurker

It sets my spidey sense to tingling. Charles gets into it on Twitter with that Perter Duke photographer guy who appears to be an UpChuck fanboy, then all of a sudden some other photographer comes out of the blue publicly alleging copyright infringement, but failing to provide any details? What a coincidence. //

That’s not it. Look at her timeline, this is just how she sends takedown notices, she’s been doing it this way for the last two weeks regarding that photo. She never sends the offending URL. Peter Duke just favorited and retweeted it because he’s a raging hard on.

499 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:50:32pm

re: #490 Iwouldprefernotto

Perhaps she’s looking for money.

This is a blog - not the NYT and she should have taken that into account if she was fishing for lucre. Maybe CCJ and his photog hanger-on filled her head with visions of the money to be made. In any case, she’ll have to look elsewhere.

500 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:51:04pm

re: #493 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s not about what’s legal.

Yes, it is. She’s saying her photo is being used without her permission, which infringes on the copyright that is legally hers. She has every right to request that it be taken down.

As for free advertising, that basically amounts to spec work, which is a no-no for many in my field: nospec.com.

501 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:51:29pm

re: #496 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It’s not about what is just, fair, right or ethical either ;)

Is it about the right to own pixels in a specific order?

502 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:51:31pm

re: #498 goddamnedfrank

That’s not it. Look at her timeline, this is just how she sends takedown notices, she’s been doing it this way for the last two weeks regarding that photo. She never sends the offending URL.

So she’s an idiot AND a shitty photographer who stumbled on a great shot.

503 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 3:52:20pm

re: #501 b_sharp

Is it about the right to own pixels in a specific order?

It’s about ethics in gaming journalism.

504 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 3:52:25pm

re: #500 CuriousLurker

Yes, it is.

Um, no. That comment was written by me and I know that it is not about what’s legal.

She’s saying her photo is being used without her permission, which infringes on the copyright that is legally hers. She has every right to request that it be taken down.

Did anyone claim otherwise?

505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:52:53pm

re: #500 CuriousLurker

As for free advertising, that basically amounts to spec work, which is a no-no for many in my field: nospec.com.

AKA, un-paid internships for professionals.

506 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:53:52pm

re: #500 CuriousLurker

Yes, it is. She’s saying her photo is being used without her permission, which infringes on the copyright that is legally hers. She has every right to request that it be taken down.

As for free advertising, that basically amounts to spec work, which is a no-no for many in my field: nospec.com.

Yep, she’s totally right to ask for the takedown, but she needs to learn to send her requests via email and include the offending URL. She should also send the direct link to the image, not the page containing it, because a page might contain multiple images from different sources.

507 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:54:00pm

re: #498 goddamnedfrank

That’s not it. Look at her timeline, this is just how she sends takedown notices, she’s been doing it this way for the last two weeks regarding that photo. She never sends the offending URL. Peter Duke just favorited and retweeted it because he’s a raging hard on.

Okay, I stand corrected on that part. All the shit that goes on makes me suspicious of people’s motives sometimes. That said, I still think it’s an unprofessional way to send takedown notices.

508 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:54:22pm

re: #504 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Um, no. That comment was written by me and I know that it is not about what’s legal.

Did anyone claim otherwise?

Mindset & match.

509 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:55:28pm

re: #507 CuriousLurker

Okay, I stand corrected on that part. All the shit that goes on makes me suspicious of people’s motives sometimes. That said, I still think it’s an unprofessional way to send takedown notices.

It is.
A pro would be far more specific.

510 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 3:55:58pm

re: #506 goddamnedfrank

Yep, she’s totally right to ask for the takedown, but she needs to learn to send her requests via email and include the offending URL. She should also send the direct link to the image, not the page containing it, because a page might contain multiple images from different sources.

There are fucking forms for this shit!

511 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:56:03pm

re: #507 CuriousLurker

Okay, I stand corrected on that part. All the shit that goes on makes me suspicious of people’s motives sometimes. That said, I still think it’s an unprofessional way to send takedown notices.

You post while standing?

I seriously can’t stand doing that.

512 Ace-o-aces  Dec 17, 2014 3:56:16pm
513 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:56:22pm

re: #510 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

There are fucking forms for this shit!

Barking dog.

514 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 3:57:07pm

re: #502 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

So she’s an idiot AND a shitty photographer who stumbled on a great shot.

Either she deletes the tweets after getting a response, or Charles is the only webmaster who’s responded to her requests so far. If the latter she might want to take the low response rate as reason to revise her communication methodology.

515 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 3:57:10pm

re: #511 b_sharp

You post while standing?

I seriously can’t stand doing that.

*_*

516 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 3:58:28pm

It was a nice picture, but it got blown out of the news cycle with this one taken by an actual news photographer whose organization (The Oregonian) knows how to properly license a news photo.

517 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 3:58:42pm

I went out and bought the wife a heated throw for her legs and feet and some fuzzy socks.

The throw doesn’t fit in her stocking so I hid it nearby and put a card in her stocking telling her where to look.

I’m so sneaky.

518 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 3:59:08pm

re: #504 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Um, no. That comment was written by me and I know that it is not about what’s legal.

Did anyone claim otherwise?

You said you didn’t understand the mindset, that it was a “free ad, as it were.” I explained the mindset—i.e. what is within the creator’s legal rights. Then you said it wasn’t about that. I said yes, it was, because her request was based on her legal right as the photographer. That is the mindset. I don’t understand why you’re arguing that point.

519 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 17, 2014 4:00:46pm

re: #517 b_sharp

I went out and bought the wife a heated throw for her legs and feet and some fuzzy socks.

The throw doesn’t fit in her stocking so I hid it nearby and put a card in her stocking telling her where to look.

I’m so sneaky.

Did you hide it under an appreciative Feline Overlord?
:)

520 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:02:07pm

re: #518 CuriousLurker

You said you didn’t understand the mindset, that it was a “free ad, as it were. I explained the mindset—i.e. what is within the creator’s legal rights.

What is within the creator’s legal rights has nothing to do with the mindset. The rights were never in question. One may choose to exercise one’s legal rights or not. Pamela Geller has legal rights to say whatever she writes on her blog - what kind of mindset leads to her writing what she does is an entirely separate question.

Then you said it wasn’t about that. I said yes, it was because her request was based on her legal right as the photographer. That is the mindset. I don’t understand why you’re arguing that point.

And again, legal rights have nothing to do with the mindset that leads to exercising them - or not.

521 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:02:41pm

re: #519 Feline Fearless Leader

Did you hide it under an appreciative Feline Overlord?
:)

Absolutely not. Both of our cats would tell her where it was if I did that.

522 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:03:25pm

re: #517 b_sharp

I went out and bought the wife a heated throw for her legs and feet and some fuzzy socks.

The throw doesn’t fit in her stocking so I hid it nearby and put a card in her stocking telling her where to look.

I’m so sneaky.

You should have the note in her stocking tell her to look someplace else, where she’ll find another note with another clue.

Sample first note: “Go to the silverware drawer”
Sample second note: “You are my matching spoon. Here’s a loving hug. Now go look in bathroom.”
Sample third note (taped to the toothpaste): “You found a kiss! Now head to ___”

and so on and so on.

Make as many notes as you think you can get away with.

523 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 4:03:28pm

re: #517 b_sharp

I went out and bought the wife a heated throw for her legs and feet and some fuzzy socks.

The throw doesn’t fit in her stocking so I hid it nearby and put a card in her stocking telling her where to look.

I’m so sneaky.

I maintain that the heated rocks were the way to go. ;)

524 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 4:04:19pm

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, b_sharp should alert the SO that the idea came from the lizardem :D

525 sagehen  Dec 17, 2014 4:04:37pm

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sample third note (taped to the toothpaste): “You found a kiss! Now head to ___”

and so on and so on.

Make as many notes as you think you can get away with.

If her legs are hurting, maybe not the best time for a scavenger hunt.

526 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:04:57pm

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

You should have the note in her stocking tell her to look someplace else, where she’ll find another note with another clue.

Sample first note: “Go to the silverware drawer”
Sample second note: “You are my matching spoon. Here’s a loving hug. Now go look in bathroom.”
Sample third note (taped to the toothpaste): “You found a kiss! Now head to ___”

and so on and so on.

Make as many notes as you think you can get away with.

You’re sneaker than I am.

I like it.

527 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:05:17pm

re: #526 b_sharp

You’re sneaker than I am.

I like it.

:D

528 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:05:53pm

re: #525 sagehen

If her legs are hurting, maybe not the best time for a scavenger hunt.

By Christmas she should be in far better shape than she is today.

529 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:06:04pm

re: #524 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

And, b_sharp should alert the SO that the idea came from the lizardem :D

I will.

530 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:06:19pm

IOW, “Because she has a right to be one” is not an answer to “Why is Pamela Geller such a flaming anti-Muslim bigot?”.

531 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 17, 2014 4:06:31pm

re: #524 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

And, b_sharp should alert the SO that the idea came from the lizardem :D

Lizard Feet Slippers - for those cranky mornings

532 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:08:04pm

re: #531 Feline Fearless Leader

Lizard Feet Slippers - for those cranky mornings

Those are hilarious.

533 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:08:41pm

re: #520 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What is within the creator’s legal rights has nothing to do with the mindset. The rights were never in question. One may choose to exercise one’s legal rights or not. Pamela Geller has legal rights to say whatever she writes on her blog - what kind of mindset leads to her writing this is an entirely separate question.

Apples & oranges.

And again, legal rights have nothing to do with the mindset that leads to exercising them - or not.

I gave you an example via the No!Spec website. For many in the creative fields the legal intellectual rights are very important because doing spec work or allowing one’s work to be used as a “free ad” devalues the profession—or perhaps it’s better to say the work of professionals—overall.

534 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 4:08:55pm

I think it’s funny that this Peter Duke and Jan Sonnenmair tweet like their hot shit and their photography sucks.

535 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:09:03pm

re: #523 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I maintain that the heated rocks were the way to go. ;)

Do I heat them until they’re white hot, or just red hot?

536 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 4:09:41pm

re: #504 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Um, no. That comment was written by me and I know that it is not about what’s legal.

Did anyone claim otherwise?

The “free ad” thing ruffles a lot of feathers, for good reason. Creatives hear the value of exposure argument all the time, and it’s become a kind of industry shorthand for “you’re little people so we don’t need to pay you real money.” Over time this gets incredibly frustrating and annoying, and creative types have developed all kinds of ways of pushing back.

For a hilarious example of this see “I’d Like to Pay For This with Cookies.

537 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 4:09:43pm

re: #535 b_sharp

Do I heat them until they’re white hot, or just red hot?

Just to the point they are about to melt.

538 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:09:46pm

re: #531 Feline Fearless Leader

Lizard Feet Slippers - for those cranky mornings

Thanks! Got MrBWS’s present sorted now.

:D

539 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 4:09:55pm

re: #535 b_sharp

Do I heat them until they’re white hot, or just red hot?

Do I look like a 19th century heat professional? ;)

540 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:10:21pm

re: #535 b_sharp

Do I heat them until they’re white hot, or just red hot?

As long as the paper you wrap them in don’t burn, you’re OK.

541 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:10:26pm

re: #533 CuriousLurker

Apples & oranges.

Not at all.

I gave you an example via the No!Spec website.

I acknowledge that explanation, that came in a later comment.

Legal rights still have nothing to do with mindset.

542 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:11:18pm

re: #536 goddamnedfrank

The “free ad” thing ruffles a lot of feathers, for good reason.

Maybe, but all one needs is to explain.

543 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 4:12:44pm

re: #533 CuriousLurker

Apples & oranges.

I gave you an example via the No!Spec website. For many in the creative fields the legal intellectual rights are very important because doing spec work or allowing one’s work to be used as a “free ad” devalues the profession—or perhaps it’s better to say the work of professionals—overall.

Also, at some point, someone else is making money off of the artist’s work without compensating the artist. Here not so much, but when a company takes an artist’s work and slaps it on t-shirts that they then sell - would you say the artist should just take that as free advertising? I think not.

An argument could be made that because there is advertising on the page, there was money being made. A lot? No. I’d be surprised if we are talking more than pennies. But the principle is the same.

544 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 4:13:20pm

re: #536 goddamnedfrank

As for your offer to allow me to use these images to promote MY business…SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! I thought nothing could top the offer of cookies but this…this did it. I’m getting a little emotional as I type thinking about how generous you are to allow me to use your images, purchased with a batch of cookies, to promote my business. It feels like I won the lottery.

I tear up every time I read this. Anybody who’s been a student in a photography, art or design program has dealt with these people in spades.

545 Kid A  Dec 17, 2014 4:13:55pm

re: #536 goddamnedfrank

Yep. I get calls from jackasses all the time.

Them: “Hey, we’ll put your name next to the picture if you give it us!!!!”

Me: “Do you work for free?”

Them: *crickets*

Me: *click*

546 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 4:14:08pm

re: #539 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Do I look like a 19th century heat professional? ;)

Yah.

547 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:15:38pm

re: #543 klystron

There are all kinds of legitimate answers to my question: “it’s bad for business for such and such reasons”, “it’s spec work and it’s a no-no”, etc. “Because she has a right to” is not one of them.

548 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:15:59pm

re: #530 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

IOW, “Because she has a right to be one” is not an answer to “Why is Pamela Geller such a flaming anti-Muslim bigot”.

The difference is that Geller makes a lot of claims about her motivations—human rights advocacy, patriotism, etc.—very few of which ring true when compared to her actions. In fact, her right to bigoted free speech is one of the few things she doesn’t misrepresent.

The photographer, OTOH, doesn’t appear to be claiming anything other than her legal rights to her intellectual property.

549 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 4:18:41pm

re: #547 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There are all kinds of legitimate answers to my question: “it’s bad for business for such and such reasons”, “it’s spec work and it’s a no-no”, etc. “Because she has a right to” is not one of them.

I don’t think I said she was doing it “because she has a right to”?

I was pointing out that a lot of artists do take action when someone else is making money off of their work without permission and appropriate compensation, even if that amount is very, very small.

550 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 4:19:10pm

Funny

551 darthstar  Dec 17, 2014 4:19:44pm

re: #550 darthstar

Funny

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552 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 17, 2014 4:19:52pm

re: #546 b_sharp

Yah.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD! :D

554 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 4:21:03pm

re: #547 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There are all kinds of legitimate answers to my question: “it’s bad for business for such and such reasons”, “it’s spec work and it’s a no-no”, etc. “Because she has a right to” is not one of them.

Honestly though none of those other reasons are relevant to the takedown notice. You don’t explain the reasoning behind your request to the offending party, you just assert your rights.

Like I said, this is a gigantic sore spot for creatives in general, that’s the mindset.

555 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:24:56pm

re: #548 CuriousLurker

The difference is that Geller makes a lot of claims about her motivations—human rights advocacy, patriotism, etc.—very few of which ring true when compared to her actions. In fact, her right to bigoted free speech is one of the few things she doesn’t misrepresent.

The photographer, OTOH, doesn’t appear to be claiming anything other than her legal rights to her intellectual property.

We both agree that what Geller may be saying about herself is not very enlightening, and in any case it is not a part of my point. The point is about the motivations. The existence of rights themselves does not necessarily result in specific motivations. There are the so-called 2nd amendment rights, but if I know that a person is stockpiling weapons, I’m no more wise for knowing that they have that right - I want to know why they are stockpiling. If a person abuses free speech, like Geller does, I want to know why they’re doing that. If a person does something with their copyright that doesn’t make sense to me - I want to know why they’re doing it, and not merely that they’re entitled to it by law (I already know it). On the latter issue I have gotten a couple of satisfactory answers, including the one from you about “no specs work”. Moving on ;)

556 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:25:22pm

urioouslre: #547 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

There are all kinds of legitimate answers to my question: “it’s bad for business for such and such reasons”, “it’s spec work and it’s a no-no”, etc. “Because she has a right to” is not one of them.

Sergey, the photographer herself said that it was about her legal right, that was her entire complaint. As for reasons, I gave one back in my #500

557 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:26:00pm

Apparently, CCJ’s intimate knowledge of livestock doesn’t extend to cows:

558 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 4:26:03pm
559 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:26:25pm

re: #554 goddamnedfrank

Honestly though none of those other reasons are relevant to the takedown notice.

They’re relevant to my question.

560 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:26:49pm

re: #555 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Moving on ;)

Good idea—me too. ;-)

561 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:27:57pm

re: #549 klystron

I don’t think I said she was doing it “because she has a right to”?

No, you gave a good answer to my question.

562 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 4:28:30pm

re: #558 b.d.

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Better tweet, everyone pulls the Chamberlain card without even really knowing what it was.

563 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 4:29:03pm

re: #557 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, CCJ’s intimate knowledge of livestock doesn’t extend to cows:

[Embedded content]

He’s a love ‘em and leave ‘em kind of guy.

564 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:29:15pm

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST CUBA TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

565 TedStriker  Dec 17, 2014 4:29:37pm

re: #291 lawhawk

Jeb Bush on the President’s actions.

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Hits all the GOP word salad choices. Executive overreach (hey, ever hear about a guy named George. Jeb might even be related to him). Benefiting Castros and their heinous human rights record (just ignore the Saudis, Egyptians, Pakistanis, Russians, Chinese, Laotians, and the Latin American autocrats along with all the other autocratic and totalitarian regimes the US had normalized relations with - completely ignoring or minimizing the horrendous human rights violations in those countries.

Nixon to China - with Mao still in power. He of the Long March
and Great Leap forward and millions killed. Russia and the gulag archipelago. I could go on. Jeb’s father might know a thing or two from this too.

Jeb’s indeed filling out his RWNJ Bingo card tin order to show that he is not his persona-non-grata brother.

566 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:30:57pm

re: #564 The Vicious Babushka

Didn’t they try that already a couple of times back in the late 1950s?

567 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:31:06pm
568 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:31:19pm

re: #566 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t they try that already a couple of times back in the late 1950s?

569 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 4:31:19pm

re: #564 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST CUBA TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

[Embedded content]

Because we totally didn’t do that.
/TOTALLY!

570 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:32:55pm

re: #569 Varek Raith

Because we totally didn’t do that.
/TOTALLY!

I’m going to make a wild-eyed assumption that this guy did not pay attention in history class, or maybe he was home-schooled.

571 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:33:11pm

re: #564 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST CUBA TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

[Embedded content]

He’s a moron lab (‘e’ is missing…).

572 b.d.  Dec 17, 2014 4:34:13pm

re: #564 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST CUBA TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

[Embedded content]

Yep, checked profile and he has that Moron Label thing going on.

573 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:35:01pm
You are blocked from following @GCP_Rob and viewing @GCP_Rob’s Tweets.

I haz a sad :(

574 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:36:17pm

Actually I can still totally view all @GCP_Rob’s Tweets, what a shitmountain of Detp.

575 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:36:35pm
576 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 17, 2014 4:38:30pm

re: #568 The Vicious Babushka

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The Berlin wall and the rest of the Eastern Block fell due to Rock music and Levis not guns. The same will be true of the government in Havana.

577 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:39:22pm

re: #554 goddamnedfrank

Like I said, this is a gigantic sore spot for creatives in general, that’s the mindset.

THIS.

BTW, thanks for posting the “I’d Like to Pay For This with Cookies” article. I’d totally forgotten about that one, so it made me LOL to read it again after so long.

578 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 4:40:18pm

re: #570 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to make a wild-eyed assumption that this guy did not pay attention in history class, or maybe he was home-schooled.

It’s impossible to plumb the full depth of ignorance in a proud land where White House Press Secretary Dana Perino had never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

579 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:41:37pm

re: #576 William Barnett-Lewis

The Berlin wall and the rest of the Eastern Block fell due to Rock music and Levis not guns. The same will be true of the government in Havana.

Obama’s approach may be the most sensible yet for defeating the Cuban regime. (Esp. if it is accomplished through a slow and peaceful democratization.)

580 goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2014 4:41:42pm
581 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 4:44:01pm

re: #575 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Yeah, conservative love for Israel: We support you because we need you for Armageddon, at which point you can either perfect yourselves by converting to Christianity or burn in Hell for eternity.

Ugh.

582 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 4:45:39pm

re: #580 goddamnedfrank

Hilarious!

583 thecommodore  Dec 17, 2014 4:45:44pm

HE’S STIRRING UP THE BLACKS AGAIN!!! 1! 1!! 1! 1!!

talkingpointsmemo.com

584 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 4:45:50pm

re: #581 CuriousLurker

Yeah, conservative love for Israel: We support you because we need you for Armageddon, at which point you can either perfect yourselves by converting to Christianity or burn in Hell for eternity.

Ugh.

There’s also that “they get to kill Muslims with impunity” envy going on.

585 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:46:15pm

re: #581 CuriousLurker

I just love how Obama has his name tattoed on his arm. Also he has terrible aim. /

586 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 4:49:12pm

re: #584 Blind Frog Belly White

And their troops have such big helmets!

587 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 4:49:50pm

re: #585 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I just love how Obama has his name tattoed on his arm. Also he has terrible aim. /

And his arm is white

588 garzooma  Dec 17, 2014 4:50:12pm

re: #579 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Obama’s approach may be the most sensible yet for defeating the Cuban regime. (Esp. if it is accomplished through a slow and peaceful democratization.)

It may be the most sensible, but that doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing, or even likely. Look at China. It’s best not to raise hopes that may well not be realized. Better to just point out that the current policy of recognizing communist China & Vietnam but not Cuba just doesn’t make any sense.

589 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:51:22pm

re: #588 garzooma

It may be the most sensible, but that doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing, or even likely. Look at China. It’s best not to raise hopes that may well not be realized. Better to just point out that the current policy of recognizing communist China & Vietnam but not Cuba just doesn’t make any sense.

Or recognizing any other dictatorship other than Cuba.

590 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 4:51:29pm

re: #587 The Vicious Babushka

And his arm is white

he is half white you know….

RBS

591 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:51:56pm

re: #587 The Vicious Babushka

And his arm is white

It’s his white half, donchaknow//

592 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 4:52:09pm

re: #590 RealityBasedSteve

he is half white you know….

RBS

Damn you!!!/

593 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 4:52:41pm

Let’s see if we have a thumbnail preview for Vimeo films, shall we?

594 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Dec 17, 2014 4:52:49pm

re: #199 Zamb

Kwiet

Before the Norman Conquest brought in French-trained scribes with their fancy Q’s and U’s, “Queen” was “cwen” and “quick” was “cwic”. If “cw” was good enough for Alfred the Great, it’s good enough for me.

595 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 17, 2014 4:52:49pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh…

596 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 4:52:50pm

re: #587 The Vicious Babushka

And his arm is white

He’s white-handed, silly.

597 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 4:53:19pm

Yes! A very nice high-quality image, too.

598 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 4:55:34pm

599 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 17, 2014 4:57:25pm

what’s hilarious is that among the richest Republicans currently berating President Obama right now over the Cuba decision will be the first to purchase seaside property overlooking the Keys close to and inside Havana when the opportunity arises.

600 bratwurst  Dec 17, 2014 4:58:22pm

I think this sums up Twitter today PERFECTLY:

601 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 4:59:05pm
602 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 4:59:49pm
603 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 5:02:54pm
604 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 5:04:10pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, so the idea that Cuba is some sort of international pariah state is bunk. Most of the rest of the world normalized relations with them ages ago. We’ve been holding out for no other reason than because we’re afraid to admit the embargo hasn’t worked as planned.

605 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:06:03pm

re: #602 Charles Johnson
Well, now we know how to get right wingers to condemn torture: normalize relations with Cuba.

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Well that’s Commie Torture. What we do is simply Enhanced Interrogation, and the innocents that get the strap, well, that’s the price you pay for freedom. Remember, Waterboarding is where we baptize terrorists with Freedom//////

RBS

606 Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2014 5:06:23pm
607 bratwurst  Dec 17, 2014 5:08:20pm

If someone had threatened to kill anyone checking Weiner dick he might have a point here!

608 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 5:08:50pm

re: #606 Charles Johnson

truth2bob just keeps on trolling.

609 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 5:09:52pm

Cookie baking on hold: insufficient sugar in the kitchen.

THANKS OBAMA.

610 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 5:10:09pm

and HE KNOWS PEOPLE!!11!!

611 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:10:32pm

re: #607 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

If someone had threatened to kill anyone checking Weiner dick he might have a point here!

Don’t forget, upChuck is a highly trained forensic computer expert, with a specialty in penetration analysis.

I crack myself up sometimes.

RBS

612 bratwurst  Dec 17, 2014 5:12:25pm

re: #610 Backwoods_Sleuth

and HE KNOWS PEOPLE!!11!!

[Embedded content]

Of course having lived in LA means he knows people who work for Sony. I lived in Germany for many years so NATURALLY I have contacts at both Mercedes AND BMW. /

613 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:13:45pm

re: #612 bratwurst

Of course having lived in LA means he knows people who work for Sony. I lived in Germany for many years so NATURALLY I have contacts at both Mercedes AND BMW. /

I live near Nashville, and I know many songwriters and musicians. The pizza delivery guy, the barista,…

RBS

614 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2014 5:14:24pm
615 Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2014 5:14:30pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Also, this map goes well to prove this line from Cruz:

Fidel and Raul Castro have just received both international legitimacy and a badly-needed economic lifeline from President Obama,” he continued. “But they remain in control of a totalitarian police state modeled on their old state sponsor, the Soviet Union.”

So much bunk. Cuba under the Castros has had legitimacy and support from the international community for awhile now. So the GOP’s position is just utterly ridiculous.

616 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 17, 2014 5:14:31pm

re: #611 RealityBasedSteve

Don’t forget, upChuck is a highly trained forensic computer expert, with a specialty in penetration analysis.

I crack myself up sometimes.

RBS

He’ll FOIA your ass in 10 seconds!

617 gwangung  Dec 17, 2014 5:14:49pm

re: #610 Backwoods_Sleuth

and HE KNOWS PEOPLE!!11!!

[Embedded content]

Well, if you get turned down at HR as many times as he has, you DO get to know people…

618 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 5:15:47pm

re: #611 RealityBasedSteve

Don’t forget, upChuck is a highly trained forensic computer expert, with a specialty in penetration analysis.

I crack myself up sometimes.

RBS

But only when it comes to sheep…

619 Varek Raith  Dec 17, 2014 5:16:00pm

What the hell is Chucky on???

620 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2014 5:16:34pm

re: #612 bratwurst

I live in Appalachia so I know lots of moonshiners.

oh, wait…

621 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 17, 2014 5:16:53pm

re: #614 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Interestingly, Freedonia was so named because the western NY town of Fredonia kicked the Marx Brothers out for being obscene (or something).

622 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:17:32pm

re: #616 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He’ll FOIA your ass in 10 seconds!

Or put out a contract, 50 bucks to whoever can dig up the dirt.

RBS

623 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:18:39pm

re: #618 Backwoods_Sleuth

But only when it comes to sheep…

He’s used to being asked “Is it in yet?”

RBS

624 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 17, 2014 5:19:14pm

re: #564 The Vicious Babushka

625 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 17, 2014 5:21:51pm

re: #609 klystron

Cookie baking on hold: insufficient sugar in the kitchen.

THANKS OBAMA.

Baked a batch of Red Velvet cookies last night. Great with a cup of coffee.

626 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 5:23:48pm

re: #625 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Baked a batch of Red Velvet cookies last night. Great with a cup of coffee.

I have dad’s chocolate chip cookie recipe. I’m really looking forward to it but half a cup of sugar short…

627 cuzIsaidso  Dec 17, 2014 5:24:28pm

re: #360 Kid A
That’s Jimmy Carter, not Donald Rumsfeld, with Arafat.

628 CuriousLurker  Dec 17, 2014 5:27:40pm

re: #626 klystron

I have dad’s chocolate chip cookie recipe. I’m really looking forward to it but half a cup of sugar short…

So close, yet so far…

629 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 5:28:49pm

re: #628 CuriousLurker

So close, yet so far…

I KNOW.

I’m tempted to break into the ice cream.

630 b_sharp  Dec 17, 2014 5:28:51pm

re: #626 klystron

I have dad’s chocolate chip cookie recipe. I’m really looking forward to it but half a cup of sugar short…

Look for Mary Poppins.

631 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 17, 2014 5:31:48pm

re: #626 klystron

I have dad’s chocolate chip cookie recipe. I’m really looking forward to it but half a cup of sugar short…

could you do a half batch?

RBS

632 klystron  Dec 17, 2014 5:32:24pm

re: #631 RealityBasedSteve

could you do a half batch?

RBS

Maybe …but I’ll just make the husband get sugar on the way home instead. :D

633 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 17, 2014 6:04:49pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Oh, I see they’ve sent you DMCA takedown demands too.

634 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 17, 2014 6:23:20pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Got this on Twitter:

Does anyone have an idea which photo she’s talking about? Is it in a Page somewhere, maybe?

I posted a few photos of Sunglassed Chuck with the caption changed from Defender of Truth, or whatever malarkey he has. Maybe those?

635 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 8:24:19pm

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

Cuban FOOD!!!!!

Moros y Cristianos

636 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 8:36:55pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

See: Ybor and Seminole Heights. Plenty of it. :)

SE Florida, Miami Dade County.

637 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 8:59:48pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

It’s good stuff. No idea what they were cooking but my favorite is the classic sandwich. Pork, ham, Swiss cheese, mustard, all on good bread.

Medianoches and colada. Good way for friends to top off an evening.

638 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 9:19:00pm

re: #80 jaunte

Back when I lived in Miami, radio stations were bombed for being insufficiently anti-Castro. I hope the Secret Service is more alert for right wing nutjobs after this.

In the mid 1970s, Radio WQBA announcer Emilio Milián’s legs were blown off by a car bomb outside the station. It was generally believed that members of Alpha 66 were involved. No one was ever charged for the bombing.

Milián survived and continued to speak out against tactics of hard core anti- Castro exile Cuban groups.

639 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 9:37:45pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

A Cuban-American friend tells me most of the “classics” have had a lot of the mechanicals replaced with bits from Soviet-era cars, Ladas and such. They might not be so great as all that….

IIRC the US Coast Guard diminished the number of surviving Cuban classic American cars by sinking a 1953 Chevrolet truck and a 1958 Buick as hazards to navigation.

640 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 9:52:20pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

That would be huge. And despite what Marco believes, that will mean a ton to the Cuban people as opposed to the “Cuban people.”*
* Marco Rubio’s huge ego

You’re leaving out Miami-Dade Congresswoman Roseanne Roseannadanna Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

641 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 10:08:24pm

re: #226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The exile community has been dictating policy towards Cuba for 50 years. They’re used to being able to intimidate everyone.

José R. Mas, whose Cuban Exile father Jorge Mas Canosa, founded the Cuban American National Foundation has backed off from his father’s virulent anti-Castro rhetoric.

642 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 10:22:42pm

re: #231 jaunte

It’s a real industry in South Florida. Now it might disappear.

In the 1960s, 70s, and early 1980s, being a Cuban Exile Anti-Castro CIA asset, was a get out of jail free card.

643 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 10:26:05pm

re: #245 jaunte

“What am I going to do with this warehouse of Cuba Libre bumper stickers?”

Boost rum sales?

644 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 10:31:56pm

re: #229 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They’re coming over the Cuba border that Obuma is going to OPEN!!!! //

I always wondered about the mental anguish the second generation Cuban Americans serving in the US Coast Guard must have gone thru; taking aboard Cubans rafting from Cuba while at sea, knowing most of them would be returned to Cuban authorities.

645 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 17, 2014 10:44:07pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Yeah Iran-Contra. Funny how when they accuse Obama of coddling terrorists, they never mention that pathetic adventure. But I guess that’s because they could care less about the real fuck ups of the Reagan administration as opposed to their active fantasies where Obama laughs evily with the Iranians about how his secret plan to destroy the US from the inside by giving more Americans affordable health care. It’s downright dastardly I tell ya. Blofeld would find ti too evil.

Iran-Contra was what finally took the shine off of the Cuban Exile Anti-Castro CIA asset get-out-of-jail-free-card.


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