Fake Outrage Alert: Alan Gross’s Lawyers Have a Photo of Che Guevara! Secret Commies!

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The right wing media is in unison screaming mode again, sliming newly-released American Alan Gross, because of course they are. A photograph of Gross in his lawyers’ Washington DC office after getting out of a Cuban prison shows photographs of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro hanging on the wall.

In the strange paranoid wingnut universe, this is proof that Gross and his lawyers are secret commies dedicated to the destruction of America.

Here’s the photo, posted by New York Times photographer Stephen Crowley:

And here’s a typical right wing reaction:

I don’t know why those pictures are on the wall, but if I had to speculate I’d say it might be because these lawyers were working on getting Alan Gross out of Cuba for the last five years, and hung the pictures as a way to keep the issue front and center.

That’s just a guess, of course. But I’m pretty sure it wasn’t because they’re plotting secret commie plots, and then circulating a photo that exposes them by mistake.

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171 comments
1 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:07:25am

OT but:

2 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:08:56am

But yeah, guy just spent 5 years in a Cuban prison for trying to supply the people there with internet access. Maybe we can cut him some slack about his Lawyer’s choice of office decoration.

3 KerFuFFler  Dec 18, 2014 10:09:45am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

OT but:

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But DD’s young girls would be married so it would be great for them to get preggers at 15.//

4 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:11:41am

Matthew Vadum is leading the wingnut Sliming of Alan Gross.

5 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:11:59am

That Che photo is pretty iconic. Just saying.

6 Dr. Matt  Dec 18, 2014 10:12:09am

Communists everywhere! 99 problems but Che ain’t one!

7 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:15:01am

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That Che photo is pretty iconic. Just saying.

Right and a good number of the people who have it displayed know very little about what it represents or who Che Guevara actually was.

8 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 10:15:49am

I’m more concerned with that Buck Rogers zapper gun looking thing on the desk.

9 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:15:55am

The holy WTF shouldn’t be about the Che photo on the wall, but the phaser/disruptor by the smartphone.

It’s a misdirection play.

10 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:16:15am

That graphic of Che has nothing to do with Che, just like the Guy Fawkes masks have nothing to do with the actual Guy Fawkes.

11 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:17:06am

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Matthew Vadum is leading the wingnut Sliming of Alan Gross.

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12 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:18:48am
13 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:19:15am

re:
#4

My new
@AmericanThinker
article:

Wait, I think I see the problem here….

14 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:21:01am

re:
#4

My new
@AmericanThinker
article: Can We Send Alan Gross Back to Cuba? (my new article)

What I always like about the RWNJ, they have their eyes on the ball, all the time.

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15 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:21:07am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Right and a good number of the people who have it displayed know very little about what it represents or who Che Guevara actually was.

Yeah, I’ve seen enough documentaries to know he wasn’t a saint. It’s just a good photo.

16 Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2014 10:21:50am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

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Those Guy Fawkes masks have far more to do with “V For Vendetta” than with, you know, Guy Fawkes.

17 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 10:22:07am
18 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:22:14am

re:
#15

Yeah, I’ve seen enough documentaries to know he wasn’t a saint.

Although the typical RWNJ these days loves them some torture and brutality, so I’d think Che would be right up their alley.

19 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 10:22:15am

I have a 3D Yellow Submarine poster with Blue Meanies and the giant fist of oppression. Che is probably hiding in the psychedelic garden with that commie John Lennon! OMG!!!

20 Dr. Matt  Dec 18, 2014 10:22:58am
21 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:23:56am

er:
#17

After all those years of feminists saying we need girls running foreign policy to make the world safer, we get Obama and now look at us.

I take it Erick son of Erick doesn’t like the Cuba agreement. Or something.

//

22 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:24:01am

re: #20 Dr. Matt

He has a tall mountain to climb.

23 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:24:17am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

Those Guy Fawkes masks have far more to do with “V For Vendetta” than with, you know, Guy Fawkes.

I never saw that movie. I heard it sucked.

24 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:24:38am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

Those Guy Fawkes masks have far more to do with “V For Vendetta” than with, you know, Guy Fawkes.

Yep.

(FTR, i kinda dig V for Vendetta.)

25 leftynyc  Dec 18, 2014 10:25:18am

Sometimes sanity does prevail:

aol.com

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He told them they would see it on the news.
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For those reasons, Kaarma’s “castle doctrine” defense, which allows people to use deadly force to protect their home and family, failed him Wednesday. A Missoula jury convicted him of deliberate homicide.

26 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:25:37am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I find I’m using that quote a lot lately.

27 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 10:25:42am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, look at all the foreign terrorist attacks we’ve suffered the past 6 years! And all the new wars!

Hmmmm….

28 Dr. Matt  Dec 18, 2014 10:26:06am

re: #22 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He has a tall mountain to climb.

He’s off to a pretty good start.

29 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:26:07am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

I never saw that movie. I heard it sucked.

I think I must have seen it in a vacuum (never having read the graphic novel), but I liked it.

30 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:26:32am

re:
#29

Yeah I liked it. Seen it too many times now, though.

31 Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2014 10:27:13am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

I never saw that movie. I heard it sucked.

I was thinking of the comic by Alan Moore. That mask is worn by V in there as well.

The movie…….meh. They sorta botched it.

32 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:27:55am

re: #22 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Actually, he’s got to do Andy Dufresne a whole lot better than swimming through football fields worth of crap. He’s got to burrow through a CCJ’s worth of crap (which is equivalent to the size of Mt. Everest) to take the title from CCJ.

33 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:29:06am

Just gonna leave this here….

34 iossarian  Dec 18, 2014 10:29:14am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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What a knob, to use a British term of abuse.

35 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:29:31am

Sheriff Joe is shutting down the unit that he operated to harass illegal aliens.

An Arizona sheriff known for arresting hundreds of immigrants in the country illegally on charges of finding work using fake or stolen identities is planning to close the controversial squad that investigates such cases.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s decision to disband the criminal employment squad will end his last major foothold in immigration enforcement after the courts and federal government have gradually reined in his powers in recent years.

Since 2008, Arpaio has raided 83 businesses, leading to more than 700 immigrants being charged with using fake or stolen IDs to get jobs. The raids have been criticized as focusing too heavily on the workers instead of employers.

“Here is guy who abused these laws and twisted them in such a sick way to do it for political gain. But I am glad that the reign over immigrants is over,” said Lydia Guzman, a civil rights advocate who documented many of Arpaio’s business raids and immigration patrols.

The agency didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday morning.

The sheriff’s office announced the squad’s planned closure late Wednesday as part of a legal challenge to the immigrant ID-theft cases. The squad will close in January or February after it completes an investigation.

36 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 10:30:17am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

Just gonna leave this here….

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Show me the money

37 Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2014 10:31:11am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

Just gonna leave this here….

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Well, he’ll never need to worry about paying that off, because for Chuckles, there never will be any ‘irrefutable’ proof - at least, as he defines it.

38 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:31:18am

How did ChuckC come into so much money all of a sudden?

39 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:31:52am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

in fairness to CCJ, that’s a little higher than most of his usually laughable offers.

40 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:32:24am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

Just gonna leave this here….

I’m offering $10,000 for irrefutable proof that North Korea was behind #SonyHack.

lolwut?

41 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:32:47am

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

in fairness to CCJ, that’s a little higher than most of his usual laughable offers.

He’s up early.

42 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 10:33:43am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Its amazing how many RWNJ think calling someone a woman is an insult, then turn around and tell you that they aren’t misogynists.

43 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 10:33:46am

I think he meant 10,000 rubles.

44 Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2014 10:33:48am

re: #41 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He’s up started drinking early.

FTFY.

45 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 10:34:05am

re:
#38

How did ChuckC come into so much money all of a sudden?

He meant to say that he”ll accept $10k from someone to tweet something about SonyNorthKorea.

46 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 10:34:24am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

How did ChuckC come into so much money all of a sudden?

I think Chuck confused his dollar and rouble signs.

47 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:34:33am

re: #42 Kragar

Its amazing how many RWNJ think calling someone a woman is an insult, then turn around and tell you that they aren’t misogynists.

HURR HURR TED KENNEDY IS TEH WAR ON WOMENS!!!1!!!!

48 philosophus invidius  Dec 18, 2014 10:34:57am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

I’m more interested in how the lawyers were able to travel to the future in order to obtain what is clearly a laser gun sitting on the desk.

49 makeitstop  Dec 18, 2014 10:35:27am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

Just gonna leave this here….

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He must have hocked the in-laws’ silver.

50 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 10:36:03am

Chuck has all kinds of teh money:

POLITICO must have paid him off in a settlement.

//

51 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 10:36:05am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

That’s $10,000 in Bitcoins. CCJ has thrown off the shackles of fiat currency and moved to DeLorean currency.

52 EPR-radar  Dec 18, 2014 10:36:41am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

$10K in Monopoly money?

53 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:36:43am

Someone tell Chuck Monopoly money doesn’t count.

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:37:00am

re: #52 EPR-radar

TWO seconds!

:P

55 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:37:09am

re: #50 b.d.

Chuck has all kinds of teh money:

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POLITICO must have paid him off in a settlement.

//

He learned how to cook meth.

56 Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2014 10:37:09am

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

Just gonna leave this here….

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Show me the money first.

Edit: I see I’m late, still catching up

57 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:38:45am

re: #43 allegro

Wait, isn’t that like $125? (80-1 conversion)

58 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:39:00am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

He learned how to cook meth.

He’s no Heisenberg.

59 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:39:07am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

He learned how to cook meth.

Derping Bad?

60 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 10:39:35am

Bah! Beaten again!

61 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 10:39:42am

re: #57 lawhawk

Wait, isn’t that like $125? (80-1 conversion)

Sounds good to me. And only half of what he plans on getting from the sale of his website.

62 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 10:40:12am

Report this Tweet

63 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:40:27am
Look at all the circles!
64 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 10:40:55am

re: #58 lawhawk

He’s no Heisenberg.

Heisenderp?

65 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 10:42:02am

re: #50 b.d.

…you’re right. I have 200k in cash

And a mansion and a yacht and a Gulftsream and…”Honey? Can you run to the hardware store and pick up another gallon of toluene? My creativity’s running low.”

66 Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2014 10:48:15am

Good God, is it 1983 again? “ZOMG! COMMIES!!!”

Hey dumbass, odds are the smartphone you’re using to make that asinine comment about a Che picture on lawyer’s wall was made in China. You know, that communist country that you’re okay with because you can buy their shit for cheap at Wal-Mart?

67 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:48:25am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

68 Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2014 10:54:50am
69 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:55:02am

re: #66 Targetpractice

Odds are good that your clothes are made in Pakistan or Laos or Vietnam.

Odds are that your smartphone is made with parts from China by suppliers paying less than minimum wage and in horrendous conditions.

But sure, complain that Obama opened diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Ignore that new relations with Cuba actually hurts Russia since closer ties with Cuba might dissuade Castro from helping Putin. It also could help sway Venezuela that is also suffering from the drop in oil prices. It’s an opening that can’t be ignored, unless your a RWer who thinks that everything Obama does is wrong, and that all he does is negotiate away everything getting nothing in return (and in this case, he negotiated Gross’ release, plus 50 political prisoners and a US spy in exchange for 3 ppl that the US had been holding).

70 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 10:55:30am

What if the lawyer has a keen sense of humor and understands RWNJ outrage and put those pictures up right before they shot the image?

He took down the pics of wife and family, etc. and swapped them out for some real internet fun. Now they are sitting back and laughing at what they wrought.

71 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 10:55:48am

Punch Brothers - “Julep”

72 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 10:56:09am

Don’t know if anybody saw this:

Did the gingerbread boy just issue a warning that he is going to smear Karl Rove’s candidate? That’s like challenging Michael Jordan to a game of HORSE. Sure, he’s lost a step or two with age, but he’s still gonna wipe the floor with your amateur ass.

73 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:56:33am

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

The Twitter team is on it. I expect the revolving door suspension system to get a workout.

74 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 10:57:59am

re: #72 Ace-o-aces

75 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 10:58:53am
76 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:01:09am

re: #75 Kragar

The communists listened all right. Then when they stopped laughing they went back to doing whatever it was that pissed us off.

77 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:01:25am

Runner-up Wingnut Fake Outrage: argle bargle over FLOTUS being mistaken for a Target associate.

78 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:01:47am

Che might have been a no-good SOB… but so were quite a lot of the guys on the dollars banknotes, when you think about it.

79 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:08:04am

re: #75 Kragar

I’m old enough to remember people like you screaming at passing cars.

80 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 11:08:37am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Runner-up Wingnut Fake Outrage: argle bargle over FLOTUS being mistaken for a Target associate.

Yeah, I was just reading about that one, too. But my eyes started glazing over almost immediately.

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:09:32am

re: #79 nines09

I’m old enough to remember when it was perfectly fine to say “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings”.

82 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:09:48am

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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Always up for some more Punch Brothers! Thanks to you…

83 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:10:51am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember when it was perfectly fine to say “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings”.

It still is unless you’re mentally ill.

84 Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2014 11:11:04am

Too many wingnuts seem to take the fall of the Soviet Union for granted, have bought into the GOP’s myth about how communism was “destined” to fail and how the Soviets “threw in the towel” because they couldn’t hope to compete with capitalism. Hell, I wonder how many are Millenials who have taken a post-Cold War world for granted, aren’t old enough to remember a time when experts were predicting the USSR would still be around at the turn of the century and beyond?

85 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:11:29am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember when we secretly made fun of people who said “I’m old enough to remember.”

86 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:11:56am

nymag.com

87 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:11:57am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m old enough to remember when we secretly made fun of people who said “I’m old enough to remember.”

HEY!

88 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:12:55am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Here’s a nickel get a candy bar…..

89 Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2014 11:13:00am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember when it was perfectly fine to say “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings”.

O’Reilly has declared victory in the War on Christmas, and is redeploying his troops to fight the War on Women.

90 makeitstop  Dec 18, 2014 11:13:03am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m old enough to remember when we secretly made fun of people who said “I’m old enough to remember.”

I’m old enough to remember when nobody was old enough to say ‘I’m old enough to remember.’

91 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:13:17am

re: #86 NJDhockeyfan

nymag.com

I notice they did not include a question about that kid who pwn3d them by claiming he made $72 million trading penny stocks.

92 Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2014 11:13:19am

I’m old enough to remember when 56K modems were hot shit.

93 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:13:49am

re: #90 makeitstop

I’m old enough to remember…..What were we talking about?

94 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:14:32am

re: #92 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when 56K modems were hot shit.

I’m old enough to remember my first programming class using punch cards.

95 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:15:10am

MOST WTF MEME OF THE DAY

96 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:15:37am

re: #92 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when 56K modems were hot shit.

I still have a pic somewhere of my first modem. You laid the telephone handset on it. 300 baud, baby.

97 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:15:54am

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

I remember COBOL.

98 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:21am

re: #97 nines09

FORTRAN and PASCAL

99 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:22am

re: #96 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I still have a pic somewhere of my first modem. You laid the telephone handset on it. 300 baud, baby.

I’m old enough to remember bag phones.

100 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:30am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

So, I do all these things without Christ. Or is that despite Christ. Or indifference to or by Christ. Who can say. /

101 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:46am

re:
#72

Don’t tell Karl Rove but of course I have Jeb Bush’s mistress’s name. I just want people to pay me money not to reveal the names I made up to find the other ones, too.

102 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:53am

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

This idiot actually admits he’s a clueless reactionary in his Twitter profile.

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:16:59am

Best part of the article is toward the end where Rand is described thusly:

The Kentucky Republican has a history of libertarianism, and his comments are not a surprise. Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), the senator’s father, introduced a bill to lift the embargo.

Still, the remarks are striking, since it is rare for a mainstream Republican contender for the White House to break firmly from support for the Cuban embargo.

In what freaking universe is Rand Paul “mainstream”?
Not in Kentucky, where most Republicans despise him.

104 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:01am

I’m old enough not to remember.

/

105 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:05am

re: #100 lawhawk

So, I do all these things without Christ. Or is that despite Christ. Or indifference to or by Christ. Who can say. /

If anything is possible through Christ, how come there are no Christian superheroes flying around?

106 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:20am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Runner-up Wingnut Fake Outrage: argle bargle over FLOTUS being mistaken for a Target associate.

I remember when I mistook ‘W’ Bush for a punk-ass, coke snortin’ college frat rat party boy.

Oh wait…

/

107 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:26am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember when it was perfectly fine to say “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings”.

I always think of a guy I ran into a couple of years ago who said “Merry Christmas” to which I responded “to you and yours, too!” Then he said, “I said MERRY CHRISTMAS!” With my very bestest confused look, I responded, “Thank you, I hope your holidays are terrific as well!” He sputtered and walked away pissed off. LOL

108 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:46am

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

I’m old enough to remember phone booths. And slugs for phone booths.

109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 11:17:51am

re:
#95

Troubled Hearts sure are troubled about Obama’s Cuba agreement.

110 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 11:18:18am

re: #102 No Country For Old Haters

This idiot actually admits he’s a clueless reactionary in his Twitter profile.

Are you saying that’s not a good thing?

111 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:18:24am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

If anything is possible through Christ, how come there are no Christian superheroes flying around?

Well, there are superheroes immune to snakes… until they aren’t.

112 Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2014 11:18:53am

I remember….

rotary-dial phones
the first home computers
8 Tracks in cars
Quadrophonic stereo systems
Being able to smoke damned near anywhere
Microcassettes
45 records
33 LP’s
78’s (they were going out in my childhood, though my dad’s turntable had a 78 setting)
The first LED watches
The first digital watches (and both were REALLY expensive, too!)
AM transistor radios
Crystal radio sets from Radio Shack
The first CD players
The Sony Walkman (with AM and FM!!)

etc., etc.

113 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 11:18:58am

Lightly vetting?

114 Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2014 11:18:59am

Actually found myself thinking the other day about all the old movies that would never work today. Like all the scenarios that rely upon being out of communication in a world where cellphones are almost compulsory. Or being lost in the middle of nowhere when GPS is getting to be dirt cheap.

115 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 11:19:21am
116 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 11:19:52am

re: #113 Kragar

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Lightly vetting?

(That’s a parody account.)

117 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:20:06am

re: #108 nines09

I’m old enough to remember phone booths. And slugs for phone booths.

That’s back when Superman had a place to change in.

118 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:20:06am

re: #108 nines09

I’m old enough to remember phone booths. And slugs for phone booths.

Using a slug and then one of the whistles from Captain Crunch cereal to make a free long distance call was one of my simple pleasures back then.

119 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:20:37am

Stuff I am old enough to remember:

Black & White TV
Kennedy assassination
Ed Sullivan show
45rpm singles
Air raid drills
When you could buy stuff at the 5 & 10 for 5¢ & 10¢
“Cracker Jacks” with the prize inside
Box tops

120 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:20:45am

re: #116 Charles Johnson

(That’s a parody account.)

It’s still irritating, even if it mocks the right guy.

121 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 11:20:58am

re: #116 Charles Johnson

(That’s a parody account.)

Whew.

122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 11:21:18am

re:
#95

“Patriot Journalist”.

123 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:21:44am

re: #114 Targetpractice

Actually found myself thinking the other day about all the old movies that would never work today. Like all the scenarios that rely upon being out of communication in a world where cellphones are almost compulsory. Or being lost in the middle of nowhere when GPS is getting to be dirt cheap.

Your cellphone could run out of battery, or you could be in an underground location that can’t receive satellite.

124 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:22:12am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember when it was perfectly fine to say “Happy Holidays” or “Season’s Greetings”.

When did the War On Christmas actually start? I don’t watch FOX News so I have no idea how long they’ve been banging that war drum?

I do remember you could buy those strings of aluminium foil like colored letters that spelled out both Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings and hang them in door ways, on walls or mantles, etc.

And I am old enough to remember those all the way back in the early 60s. Along with cards and wrapping paper and…and…and…

125 Dr. Matt  Dec 18, 2014 11:22:20am

This is actually happened #Meninist

126 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2014 11:22:39am
127 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 11:22:44am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Your cellphone could run out of battery, or you could be in an underground location that can’t receive satellite.

Pocket dimension.

128 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:23:01am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Your cellphone could run out of battery, or you could be in an underground location that can’t receive satellite.

Or all phones are not working because a passing comet caused all the quantum parallel universes to suddenly materialize in one place.

129 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:23:15am

re: #118 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Using a slug and then one of the whistles from Captain Crunch cereal to make a free long distance call was one of my simple pleasures back then.

I remember when long distance phone calls cost extra.

130 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:24:30am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

I remember when long distance phone calls cost extra.

I remember “roaming” charges for when you travel out of area.

Which is every time I visit Canada (like tomorrow)

131 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:24:43am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

I remember when long distance phone calls cost extra.

I remember calling collect just to let people know I was OK and they would refuse them. Free texting.

132 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 11:25:37am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

He works in mysterious ways?

133 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:25:53am

re: #116 Charles Johnson

(That’s a parody account.)

That’s what I’ve been saying here for days now.

134 Zamb  Dec 18, 2014 11:26:58am

re: #131 nines09

I remember calling collect just to let people know I was OK and they would refuse them. Free texting.

Ha I remember doing the “come pick me up” line in name spot for collect calls to my mother.

135 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 11:27:10am

re: #124 ObserverArt

I think the war on Christmas began around Labor Day. That’s when the first businesses began turning over their stock to Christmas goods. It began in earnest after Halloween. The fight was joined by the Chairborne Rangers after the battle of Turkey Leg on Thanksgiving.

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 18, 2014 11:27:11am

Gah.

IT Group did a holiday lunch at a Brazilian steakhouse (Fogo De Chao). Carnivore special, plus an expresso.

Nap time.
(zzzzzz)

137 Dr. Matt  Dec 18, 2014 11:28:16am

Limbaugh Manages To Connect Sony Hack And Movie Cancellation To Benghazi Hoax

Video

138 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:28:23am

re: #131 nines09

I remember calling collect just to let people know I was OK and they would refuse them. Free texting.

I remember when nobody could find me unless I called them from a landline.

If I could I would throw away me cell phone today. I hate them.

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:28:49am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Your cellphone could run out of battery, or you could be in an underground location that can’t receive satellite.

Or you could live out by me in the backwoods where there is no cell phone coverage at all.

140 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:29:15am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Best part of the article is toward the end where Rand is described thusly:

In what freaking universe is Rand Paul “mainstream”?
Not in Kentucky, where most Republicans despise him.

He’s mainstream in Chris Tweety Matthews world.

Many times he has said he thinks Rand will be the GOP candidate. If anyone is watching him tonight, I bet he makes a mention of this and will call it a great political move to separate him from the pack.

/ Batshit

141 Varek Raith  Dec 18, 2014 11:29:19am

OMG WHO THE HELL CARES!

142 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 11:29:24am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Stuff I am old enough to remember:

Black & White TV
Kennedy assassination
Ed Sullivan show
45rpm singles
Air raid drills
When you could buy stuff at the 5 & 10 for 5¢ & 10¢
“Cracker Jacks” with the prize inside
Box tops

Green stamps
Full service gas stations where they washed the windshield and checked the oil
Clamp-on roller skates with keys
Heating a can of soup in a pan on the stove
Water fountains with “white” and “negro” signs

143 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:30:16am

re: #138 NJDhockeyfan

There is no shelter from the tower.

144 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:32:03am

re: #142 allegro

Green stamps
Full service gas stations where they washed the windshield and checked the oil
Clamp-on roller skates with keys
Heating a can of soup in a pan on the stove
Water fountains with “white” and “negro” signs

Smoking indoors, and on public transportation & airplanes

145 Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2014 11:32:08am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

I never saw that movie. I heard it sucked.

Had its moments. The scene where Evie is reading missives from the prisoner in the next cell tears me up every time. It makes the authoritarian dystopia of the movie real.

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:32:15am

re: #124 ObserverArt

When did the War On Christmas actually start? I don’t watch FOX News so I have no idea how long they’ve been banging that war drum?

According to MediaMatters:

O’Reilly Claimed War On Christmas Is “All Part Of The Secular Progressive Agenda.” On the November 21, 2005, edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, host Bill O’Reilly — during a segment on “American stores … using ‘Christmas’ in advertising” — claimed that the effort to not use the word Christmas was “all part of the secular progressive agenda” to “pass secular progressive programs like legalization of narcotics, euthanasia, abortion at will, gay marriage, because the objection to those things is religious-based, usually.” [Fox News, The O’Reilly Factor, 11/21/05, via Media Matters]

147 iossarian  Dec 18, 2014 11:32:28am

re: #140 ObserverArt

He’s mainstream in Chris Tweety Matthews world.

Many times he has said he thinks Rand will be the GOP candidate. If anyone is watching him tonight, I bet he makes a mention of this and will call it a great political move to separate him from the pack.

/ Batshit

I think he’s got a good chance (of the nomination), especially if he isn’t held to account on his shifting positions over time. I also think he’d have a good chance against generic Democrat X, unfortunately. Most people just aren’t that interested in actual policy or credibility.

148 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 11:32:42am

The good’l days, when “wireless” was what the Brits called radio and “bluetooth” was a good reason to see a dentist.

149 Varek Raith  Dec 18, 2014 11:33:08am

So…
Who’s raygun is that???

150 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:33:23am

re: #143 nines09

There is no shelter from the tower.

Can’t get off the grid, man!

151 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:33:43am

re: #149 Varek Raith

So…
Who’s raygun is that???

A Time Lord accidentally left it in Home Depot while buying a nail gun.

152 The War TARDIS  Dec 18, 2014 11:34:40am

So, we have a Doctor Who review for the Christmas Special out. Money quote:

“Jenna and Capaldi seem more tactile in this episode”

153 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:34:43am

I’m old enough to remember when it cost 5¢ to mail a letter and 25¢ to ride the bus.

154 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 11:34:48am

re: #145 Romantic Heretic

Had its moments. The scene where Evie is reading missives from the prisoner in the next cell tears me up every time. It makes the authoritarian dystopia of the movie real.

It was a good movie for 1 viewing.

155 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:35:34am

I think remembering the price of stuff years ago is what makes old people such shitty tippers. (Present company excluded LOL)

156 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:36:28am

I remember the Tacony Palmyra bridge from Philly to Jersey was a nickel and we would hand the attendant a dollar and say “That’s for the next 19 too.” Then we would watch as he would wave 19 cars through and literally have to jump in front of that 20th car and explain why he has to pay.

157 allegro  Dec 18, 2014 11:36:50am

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

I think remembering the price of stuff years ago is what makes old people such shitty tippers.

Remembering waiting tables in college is what makes me a great tipper (even though I’m old).

158 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 11:38:04am

re: #157 allegro

Remembering waiting tables in college is what makes me a great tipper (even though I’m old).

LOL edited the post.

159 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:38:05am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Stuff I am old enough to remember:

Black & White TV
Kennedy assassination
Ed Sullivan show
45rpm singles
Air raid drills
When you could buy stuff at the 5 & 10 for 5¢ & 10¢

And that is why dime stores went to dollar stores.

Soon to be ten dollar stores.

I used to love the old dime stores. My old home town had both a F.W. Woolworth and a S.S. Kresge. As a kid all those racks of little cheap cars and then model car kits as I grew older were to kill for. Good record departments too.

160 Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2014 11:38:09am

re: #51 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s $10,000 in Bitcoins. CCJ has thrown off the shackles of fiat currency and moved to DeLorean currency.

Bitcoin has been named the worst investment of 2014. Even the ruble is doing better.

161 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 11:38:29am

re: #141 Varek Raith

162 Eventual Carrion  Dec 18, 2014 11:38:54am

re: #96 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I still have a pic somewhere of my first modem. You laid the telephone handset on it. 300 baud, baby.

That was how IBM transferred code to our mainframes in the early 80’s. They called, you picked it up and put it on the cradle, process began.

And my first personal computer storage device was a cassette tape recorder. Then I got a tape recorder with a counter on it. Made finding the beginning of the program “file” so much easier.

163 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:42:21am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

I’m old enough to remember when it cost 5¢ to mail a letter and 25¢ to ride the bus.

I remember when it cost less than $5.00 to fill the huge gas tank of my 72 Buick Riviera and I always left an oil slick wherever I parked.

164 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 11:42:37am

I remember transistor radios costing big bucks. the start of music on the beach and the end of an era.

165 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 11:43:02am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to MediaMatters:

So almost ten years. Funny that. Very similar to the War on Terror.

Hmmmm.

166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 11:48:32am

re: #164 nines09

I remember transistor radios costing big bucks. the start of music on the beach and the end of an era.

jeebus…I remember life before transistors when radios & tvs all had vacuum tubes

167 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 18, 2014 11:56:28am

re: #164 nines09

I remember transistor radios costing big bucks. the start of music on the beach and the end of an era.

My mom had a small ‘portable’ radio that had vacuum tubes in it. I have no idea whatever happened to it.

168 Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2014 4:16:42pm

if I wanted out of a Utah jail, I’d probably hire a lawyer with Mitt Romney’s baby pictures all over his wall.

169 Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2014 4:18:01pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…I remember life before transistors when radios & tvs all had vacuum tubes

As a kid, I built a kit radio with neither tubes nor transistors—crystal detectors for the masses!

Image: radioc2.jpg

170 jonhendry  Dec 18, 2014 6:52:14pm
I’ve no idea why the attorney would have Che’s picture on the wall, but he didn’t get involved with Gross’s case because of ideology:

An insurance-recovery litigator, Gilbert was brought into the case in 2011 by Williams & Connolly, which was representing Gross and his wife. Gilbert works frequently with lawyers from the firm on insurance matters, and initially, his role was to sue Development Alternatives, as well as the contractor’s insurance company and the Agency for International Development in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia—work that was done on a special-fee basis.

Note that “Williams & Connolly” is the law firm that represented Ollie North.

171 jonhendry  Dec 18, 2014 6:58:43pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Stuff I am old enough to remember:

Black & White TV
Kennedy assassination
Ed Sullivan show
45rpm singles
Air raid drills
When you could buy stuff at the 5 & 10 for 5¢ & 10¢
“Cracker Jacks” with the prize inside
Box tops

Confession: I only recently made the connection that MLK was shot just three years before I was born. When I learned about him in school, his killing would have been just 10 or so years in the past. But it seemed like sooooo long before my time.


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