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411 comments
1 blueraven  Dec 18, 2014 2:03:01pm

I have to say, since I subscribed a couple of years ago, LGF is a much more enjoyable web experience. Well worth the (especially low) price!

2 Bubblehead II  Dec 18, 2014 2:10:51pm

re: #1 blueraven

I have to say, since I subscribed a couple of years ago, LGF is a much more enjoyable web experience. Well worth the (especially low) price!

Same here. Charles, is there anyway I could convince you to put a subscription expiration date in the account settings page? Would be nice to know when I need to renew.

3 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 18, 2014 2:13:03pm

re:
#2

I must be on auto-renew because mine automatically renewed in October.

4 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 2:14:05pm
5 Bubblehead II  Dec 18, 2014 2:17:12pm

re: #3 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#2

I must be on auto-renew because mine automatically renewed in October.

Not sure if I am on auto-renew or not. Haven’t seen anything show up my credit card statement (yet).

6 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 2:19:50pm

re: #5 Bubblehead II

Not sure if I am on auto-renew or not. Haven’t seen anything show up my credit card statement (yet).

I had an old credit card tied to my PayPal subscription here and got about 4 DECLINED PayPal notices before I figured out what my problem was, Charles never even once threatened to send the goons after me.

7 Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2014 2:20:43pm
8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 2:27:52pm

re: #3 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#2

I must be on auto-renew because mine automatically renewed in October.

mine did as well.
It must be a PayPal setting.

9 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 2:30:07pm

Raphael Cruz is a dumb fanatic, but what else is new.

Also: like father, like son.

10 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:31:20pm

We should get WW a gift subscription.

11 bratwurst  Dec 18, 2014 2:31:28pm
12 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:34:17pm

Darn it, I’m on the $10/mo. plan so this is like 50% off for me. I just paid for December like a week ago and now I’m all tapped out until the beginning of January—will this last thru New Year’s?

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 2:35:33pm

Can I extend my current subscription?

14 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:35:54pm

re: #10 b_sharp

We should get WW a gift subscription.

I’ll chip in for that. Will $10 work? Charles, can we donate a portion like that?

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 2:36:34pm

Ok, you got me. The Taboola ads were the nail in the coffin. I’ll be subscribing soon (hopefully).

16 wrenchwench  Dec 18, 2014 2:37:21pm

re: #10 b_sharp

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

17 blueraven  Dec 18, 2014 2:38:25pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

(((((WW)))))

18 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:38:40pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Darn you caught us! I shouda known you’d be lurking.

19 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 2:39:58pm

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays and all that WW, we miss you.

20 Bubblehead II  Dec 18, 2014 2:40:26pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

(((WW))) How you feeling?

21 Kid A  Dec 18, 2014 2:40:35pm

City councilman says “Jesus is the reason for the season.” At a menorah lighting ceremony.
washingtonpost.com

22 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:40:38pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

I have this overwhelming desire to hug you.

But I don’t do typing.

Or windows.

23 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:41:33pm

re: #21 Kid A

City councilman says “Jesus is the reason for the season.” At a menorah lighting ceremony.
washingtonpost.com

Brain pseudo-death is a sad thing.

24 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 18, 2014 2:42:53pm

Gift subscriptions! Well now that’s one off the wish list I sent to Charles. Thanks Dude.

Gonna get one for (REDACTED). He might be lurking later.

25 wrenchwench  Dec 18, 2014 2:43:28pm

re: #20 Bubblehead II

(((WW))) How you feeling?

Incompetent, but physically not too bad, Stuff will be in court for a long time, so I’m not sayin’ much.

26 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:43:40pm

re: #24 Rightwingconspirator

Gift subscriptions! Well now that’s one off the wish list I sent to Charles. Gonna get one for (REDACTED). He might be lurking later.

I had no idea REDACTED was a lizard.

27 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:44:35pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

Incompetent, but physically not too bad, Stuff will be in court for a long time, so I’m not sayin’ much.

We miss you girl.

28 Bubblehead II  Dec 18, 2014 2:45:10pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

Incompetent, but physically not too bad, Stuff will be in court for a long time, so I’m not sayin’ much.

Well good to hear you are recovering. Understand about the Court thing.

29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 2:46:59pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

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Why is he talking about an apology?

30 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 2:47:20pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

I miss your comments and the fun log offs with cats, etc. Hope you are getting better and better!

31 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 2:47:54pm

Is there a medical term for someone who just has to be right all the time?

32 Varek Raith  Dec 18, 2014 2:48:35pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

33 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 2:48:39pm

I’ve been paying a monthly subscription. I’m going to cancel it and buy this. :)

34 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:49:58pm

It’s nice to have my wife back home. She’s laying on the couch sound asleep for the first time in days. In the hospital she wasn’t able to get more than an hour of sleep at a time.

Maybe tonight both of us can get enough sleep.

35 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 2:50:11pm
36 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 2:50:14pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a medical term for someone who just has to be right all the time?

Me.

37 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 2:51:29pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

Darn it, I’m on the $10/mo. plan so this is like 50% off for me. I just paid for December like a week ago and now I’m all tapped out until the beginning of January—will this last thru New Year’s?

I’m planning on leaving this discount up until a few days after the New Year.

38 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 2:51:39pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a medical term for someone who just has to be right all the time?

Oppositional defiant disorder, fits the bill pretty nicely.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 2:51:47pm

re: #34 b_sharp

It’s nice to have my wife back home. She’s laying on the couch sound asleep for the first time in days. In the hospital she wasn’t able to get more than an hour of sleep at a time.

Maybe tonight both of us can get enough sleep.

time for you to start making up those scavenger hunt notes…

40 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 2:52:49pm

Tomorrow is my birthday so I treated myself to this new subscription (cancelled the monthly plan)

41 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 2:54:02pm

Meanwhile, in the real world…
Youtube Video

42 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:54:45pm

So Amazon had lots of sales this month and (among other things) I bought these smiling emoticon binder clips in happy colors, and a cute kitty Post-it note dispenser. How lame is that? What can I say, it’s my own feeble attempt to try to avoid drowning in all the daily haterade.

43 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 2:55:07pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can I extend my current subscription?

Just checked on this, and it looks like there’s no way to extend a subscription. I hadn’t considered this - let me think about it and see if there’s a way to support it.

44 Varek Raith  Dec 18, 2014 2:55:24pm

re: #42 CuriousLurker

So Amazon had lots of sales this month and (among other things) I bought these smiling emoticon binder clips in happy colors, and a cute kitty Post-it note dispenser. How lame is that? What can I say, it’s my own feeble attempt to try to avoid drowning in all the daily haterade.

:)

45 wrenchwench  Dec 18, 2014 2:55:55pm

re: #30 ObserverArt

I miss your comments and the fun log offs with cats, etc. Hope you are getting better and better!

Thanks for the reminder:

Later, lizards.

46 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:55:58pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

I’m planning on leaving this discount up until a few days after the New Year.

Excellent, thanks.

47 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2014 2:56:32pm

we need a “least interesting man in the world” meme for CCJ

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 2:57:08pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Just checked on this, and it looks like there’s no way to extend a subscription. I hadn’t considered this - let me think about it and see if there’s a way to support it.

OK, thanks!

49 CuriousLurker  Dec 18, 2014 2:58:06pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Hahahahahahaha…

50 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 3:00:35pm

Peter Duke is kind of an idiot.

51 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 3:01:33pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

time for you to start making up those scavenger hunt notes…

Started last night.

52 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 3:02:01pm

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

Tomorrow is my birthday so I treated myself to this new subscription (cancelled the monthly plan)

So you’re what, turning 29?

53 Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2014 3:02:51pm

Done, Charles.

Merry Christmas.

54 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 3:03:54pm

re: #42 CuriousLurker

So Amazon had lots of sales this month and (among other things) I bought these smiling emoticon binder clips in happy colors, and a cute kitty Post-it note dispenser. How lame is that? What can I say, it’s my own feeble attempt to try to avoid drowning in all the daily haterade.

You are so weird.

I love you anyway.

55 Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2014 3:06:08pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

Hey WW. Good to see you. Sending strength and healing vibes your way.

Merry Christmas.

56 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 3:07:51pm

Pro tip: If you’re going to put three sarcastic question marks after your oh so intelligent conjecture, make sure the basic premise isn’t completely fucking wrong.

57 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 3:09:06pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

You can see why he works with Chuck.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 3:09:09pm
59 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 3:10:10pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Pro tip: If you’re going to put three sarcastic question marks after your oh so intelligent conjecture, make sure the basic premise isn’t completely fucking wrong.

Ask the dufus how correlations are tested for causation.

10 to 1 he repeats a wiki article word for word.

60 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 18, 2014 3:10:10pm

Oh CuriousLurker…
I left a late reply over there.

61 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 3:10:35pm

Here’s the lately residing Jerry Garcia and John Kahn gitpickin’ “I’ve Been All Around This World”

Jerry Garcia and John Kahn - I’ve Been All Around This World (5-5-82)

62 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 18, 2014 3:16:50pm

greetings lizards. Just popping in to say I’m alive and lurking.

63 Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2014 3:18:27pm

re: #62 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

greetings lizards. Just popping in to say I’m alive and lurking.

We saw you coming. Have a good holiday of your choice.

64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 18, 2014 3:22:29pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

We saw you coming. Have a good holiday of your choice.

same to you!

65 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 3:23:23pm
KALIDERP! KALIDERP! KALIDERP!
66 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 3:25:47pm

The whole psychological need to divorce the Benghazi attack from the Innocence of Muslims video is pathological. I’m in no way saying that it was the sole, unique and only motivation for the attack, that would be just as ridiculous. But it obviously played a big role in touching it off. That shit caused riots all over the ME, Africa, and Southeast Asia. Every city with a large Muslim community saw protests and there was widespread violence. For instance, this was Pakistan at the time:

The deadliest violence occurred in the southern port city of Karachi, where 14 people were killed, said hospital officials. More than 80 people were injured, said the top government official in the city, Roshan Ali Shaikh. At least three of the dead were policemen, one who died when hundreds of protesters attacked a police station.

“We are all ready to die for Prophet Muhammad,” said Karachi protester Mohammad Arshad. “We want to show the world that Muslims are one and united on the issue.”

Five people were killed and 60 wounded in the northwestern city of Peshawar, said police official Bashir Khan.

One of the dead was identified as Mohammad Amir, a driver for a Pakistani TV station who was killed when police fired at protesters torching a cinema and hit his vehicle, said Kashif Mahmood, a reporter for ARY TV who also was in the car. The TV channel showed doctors at a hospital trying unsuccessfully to save Amir’s life.

At least 45 people, including 28 protesters and 17 policemen were wounded in clashes in Islamabad, where police fought with more than 10,000 demonstrators in front of a five-star hotel near the diplomatic enclave where the U.S. Embassy and other foreign missions are located. A military helicopter buzzed overhead as the sound of tear gas being fired echoed across the city.

And what’s so weird about the conservative delusion that the video wasn’t involved in Benghazi is that it goes entirely against the stereotype of the Muslim world as being thin skinned and dangerously prone to reactionary violence. A stereotype that, ignoring an historical explanation of causes, does have some basis in reality. This entire issue was custom made for conservatives who wanted to castigate Islam, and yet instead they denied all the established facts tying the impetus for the attack to the video just so they could focus one hundred percent of their attention on blaming Obama.

67 EPR-radar  Dec 18, 2014 3:35:10pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

To put it much more crudely, Benghazi is simply a demonstration that irrationally hating on the black POTUS trumps irrationally hating on muslims for US wingnuts.

This could also be seen in the wingnut reaction to the OBL raid.

68 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 3:36:16pm

hello kitty has no mouth

this has been a message from the zen christmas foundation

69 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 3:39:48pm

re: #68 dog philosopher

hello kitty has no mouth

this has been a message from the zen christmas foundation

How do they feed her?

70 Eventual Carrion  Dec 18, 2014 3:40:28pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

we need a “least interesting man in the world” meme for CCJ

Need a good, made up product for him. Toilet paper? Man’s Wearhouse (specializing in long, large cuffs) ?

71 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 3:42:07pm

Midterm voters had no idea of the awesome power of Nick Lowe and Rockpile. Stoopids.

ROCKPILE - LIVE 1980 - “Crawling From The Wreckage” - Track 5 of 18

72 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 3:42:44pm

re: #69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

How do they feed her?

im not sure, but it makes a sound like one hand clapping

73 KerFuFFler  Dec 18, 2014 3:48:01pm

I don’t remember when I subscribed. (what month) If I renew now does it add 12 months to my clock or just 12 months from now?

74 ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2014 3:48:07pm

re: #71 De Kolta Chair

Midterm voters had no idea of the awesome power of Nick Lowe and Rockpile. Stoopids.

[Embedded content]

Oh yeah! Thanks for the vid. I’ve been in a Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds mood lately.

75 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 3:49:03pm

re: #69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

How do they feed her?

I think Dick Cheney addressed that on his Meet The Press appearance.

76 Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2014 3:49:54pm

re: #69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

How do they feed her?

CIA has it covered.

77 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 3:55:24pm

re: #74 ObserverArt

Oh yeah! Thanks for the vid. I’ve been in a Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds mood lately.

Nick’s Xmas album, “Quality Street,” from last year is something else. I wish I could sing at least a little like him. What voice that cat has.

78 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 3:58:24pm

re: #73 KerFuFFler

I don’t remember when I subscribed. (what month) If I renew now does it add 12 months to my clock or just 12 months from now?

Right now there’s no way to extend a subscription through PayPal, but I’m examining alternatives. Your subscription just renewed in September, by the way.

79 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 4:02:02pm

CBS Evening News was based out of Havana this evening, I think that the GOP couldn’t be further away from the thinking of the American people in their opposition to the Cuba news.

80 Kid A  Dec 18, 2014 4:03:48pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Peter Duke is kind of an idiot.

[Embedded content]

And a professional photographer never says something as douchey as “I make great photographs” on his/her Twitter page. Plus his pictures suck.

81 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 4:04:01pm

Washington (CNN) — U.S. investigators have evidence that hackers stole the computer credentials of a system administrator to get access to Sony’s computer system, allowing them broad access, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The finding is one reason why U.S. investigators do not believe the attack on Sony was aided by someone on the inside, the officials tell CNN.

The revelation is part of what is behind the government’s conclusion that hackers operating on behalf of North Korea were responsible. The government is expected to publicly blame the reclusive regime as early as Friday.

cnn.com

Who needs high end hacking technology when the weakest link in any system is the human at the keyboard?

82 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 4:04:45pm

re: #80 Kid A

And a professional photographer never says something as douchey as “I make great photographs” on his/her Twitter page. Plus his pictures suck.

In fairness, look what he had to work with…

//

83 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 4:06:20pm

I hope that the US Govt. gives Chuck the proof he needs on the SONY hack being from North Korea and demand that he pays up on his $15,000 bounty for proof.

84 KerFuFFler  Dec 18, 2014 4:08:15pm

re: #69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

hello kitty has no mouth

this has been a message from the zen christmas foundation

How do they feed her?

Maybe Hello Kitty is related to Kim Jong-il. Supposedly he never shat….

85 Iwouldprefernotto  Dec 18, 2014 4:09:54pm

re: #83 b.d.

I hope that the US Govt. gives Chuck the proof he needs on the SONY hack being from North Korea and demand that he pays up on his $15,000 bounty for proof.

[Embedded content]

I’m now offering $15,000 for anyone who has irrefutable proof that #NorthKorea was behind the #SonyHack.

Key word is irrefutable.

86 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 4:10:25pm

re: #34 b_sharp

The worst place in the world to get sleep is a hospital. Despite all their claims that you need to rest, it’s nearly impossible to do so with them checking on you every 2 hours, all the extraneous noise, etc. Glad that the Mrs. is home!

87 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 4:10:26pm
Michael, we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.
88 Kid A  Dec 18, 2014 4:11:34pm

re: #87 De Kolta Chair

I love in that scene when they’re cutting up the cake of Cuba and Roth says “No, a smaller piece.”

89 Archangelus  Dec 18, 2014 4:12:13pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sucks that we won’t be having the Colbert Report around anymore after today, and Craig Ferguson stepping down from the Late Show is just as bad. Not a good day as far as my comedy preference is concerned…

This is a brilliantly hilarious must see BTW:
Watch Stephen Colbert Break Character in Hilarious, 14-Minute Supercut

90 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2014 4:12:33pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

The whole psychological need to divorce the Benghazi attack from the Innocence of Muslims video is pathological. I’m in no way saying that it was the sole, unique and only motivation for the attack, that would be just as ridiculous. But it obviously played a big role in touching it off. That shit caused riots all over the ME, Africa, and Southeast Asia. Every city with a large Muslim community saw protests and there was widespread violence. For instance, this was Pakistan at the time:

And what’s so weird about the conservative delusion that the video wasn’t involved in Benghazi is that it goes entirely against the stereotype of the Muslim world as being thin skinned and dangerously prone to reactionary violence. A stereotype that, ignoring an historical explanation of causes, does have some basis in reality. This entire issue was custom made for conservatives who wanted to castigate Islam, and yet instead they denied all the established facts tying the impetus for the attack to the video just so they could focus one hundred percent of their attention on blaming Obama.

It demonstrates exquisitely the nature of modern Conservative “thought”, to hold simultaneously in their minds two mutually exclusive beliefs: 1) Muslims will kill Westerners at the slightest provocation over their religion, and 2) On a day when there were riots all over the Muslim world over a ‘film’ attacking their religion, it’s not possible for the attack in Benghazi to have anything to do with that.

The other thing you learn about the nature of modern Conservative “thought” is that it’s really, really stupid. According to it, whether or not the attack had anything to do with the film was PIVOTAL to the 2012 Presidential election.

91 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 4:17:23pm
92 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 4:23:03pm

re: #88 Kid A

I live in that scene when they’re cutting up the cake of Cuba and Roth says “No, a smaller piece.”

That’s a brilliant scene. Filmed in Puerto Rico, as I recall. Coppola had a magazine in the seventies in which he printed an interview with Fidel Castro. Very heady times, then as now.

Apropos of something, unlike some of my fellow progs I’ve never been fan of Fidel. Much too authoritarian for my blood. Nice to see those vibes fading away into the dustbin of history.

93 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2014 4:29:18pm

I haven’t actually seen many progressives evince much love for Castro, at least not in the last 40-some years. Similarly, I didn’t see a lot of love of Hugo Chavez, despite all my wingnut friends telling me he was a hero of the Left.

94 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 4:34:22pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

I haven’t actually seen many progressives evince much love for Castro, at least not in the last 40-some years. Similarly, I didn’t see a lot of love of Hugo Chavez, despite all my wingnut friends telling me he was a hero of the Left.

Obviously, you don’t hang out with the under sixty prog set. That’s only half snark. ;-)

But I see your point. Yet another rightwing myth, but if they didn’t have myths, they’d wouldn’t have nuttin’, not even double negatives.

95 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 4:35:32pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

I haven’t actually seen many progressives evince much love for Castro, at least not in the last 40-some years. Similarly, I didn’t see a lot of love of Hugo Chavez, despite all my wingnut friends telling me he was a hero of the Left.

just another piece of the elaborate wingnut mythology of “what liberals believe”

96 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 18, 2014 4:36:45pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

I haven’t actually seen many progressives evince much love for Castro, at least not in the last 40-some years. Similarly, I didn’t see a lot of love of Hugo Chavez, despite all my wingnut friends telling me he was a hero of the Left.

He was big at dkos.

97 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2014 4:39:36pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

Obviously, you don’t hang out with the under sixty prog set. That’s only half snark. ;-)

But I see your point. Yet another wing myth,But if they didn’t have myths, they’d wouldn’t have nuttin’.

Hey, I thought I WAS the under 60 prog set!

Oddly enough, my brothers, whom you might call part of the OVER-60 prog set, used to like Castro and such, back during their youth. I think it was all the rage in the 60s for college kids to have posters of Fidel and Che, and even Mao.

They grew out of it, though.

98 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 4:41:34pm

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He was big at dkos.

Citgo shill Joseph P. Kennedy II is big with the anti-vaxxers as well. Gawd, do I hate those eejits.

99 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2014 4:43:05pm

I think Chavez had a brief flourish of support on the left because it looked like he wasn’t going to be just another puppet of US business interests, but it died out when his less democratic side became apparent.

100 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2014 4:43:54pm

re: #98 De Kolta Chair

Citgo shill Joseph P. Kennedy II is big with the anti-vaxxers as well. Gawd, do I hate those eejits.

It’s a shame to see the Kennedy name dragged down by antivaxxers.

101 b.d.  Dec 18, 2014 4:47:04pm

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He was big at dkos.

Yep, the Chavez fans are the same bunch of yayloos over there that are today demanding Obama being impeached.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 4:48:50pm

re: #83 b.d.

I hope that the US Govt. gives Chuck the proof he needs on the SONY hack being from North Korea and demand that he pays up on his $15,000 bounty for proof.

[Embedded content]

wait just a minute there, UpChuck…
Not too long ago today, you were demanding apologies from people who poo-pooped your debunking that NK was behind all this.

103 darthstar  Dec 18, 2014 4:48:54pm
104 darthstar  Dec 18, 2014 4:50:48pm
105 darthstar  Dec 18, 2014 4:55:21pm
106 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 4:59:37pm

re: #101 b.d.

Yep, the Chavez fans are the same bunch of yayloos over there that are today demanding Obama being impeached.

i think each half of the country should be responsible for the opinions of the 12 most radical morons at its fringes

107 KerFuFFler  Dec 18, 2014 5:03:54pm

re: #85 Iwouldprefernotto

I hope that the US Govt. gives Chuck the proof he needs on the SONY hack being from North Korea and demand that he pays up on his $15,000 bounty for proof.

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I’m now offering $15,000 for anyone who has irrefutable proof that #NorthKorea was behind the #SonyHack.

Key word is irrefutable.

If the US govt has irrefutable proof they probably cannot reveal their own secret sources for obvious reasons. And hey, nothing is “irrefutable” for people who believe the world is 6,000 years old….

108 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:06:08pm

OK, I think I may have discovered the setting that lets you extend a subscription with PayPal, but I can’t test it myself.

There’s a “modify” option that supposedly lets you pay for an additional subscription that will become active when your current one expires.

Would someone who already has a subscription click the subscription button and see if there’s now an option to modify it?

109 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:06:36pm

P.S. You’ll need to reload the page first, I think.

110 Snarknado!  Dec 18, 2014 5:08:05pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Right now there’s no way to extend a subscription through PayPal, but I’m examining alternatives. Your subscription just renewed in September, by the way.

My subscription — on a credit card — renewed automatically. (And I wish there had been some kind of notice, if you’re tinkering with the code.)

111 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:08:58pm

re: #105 darthstar

theatlantic.com

112 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:09:46pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

I clicked, but I can’t find the ‘modify’ option.

113 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:10:16pm

re: #110 Snarknado!

Yeah, that’s handled entirely by PayPal and I don’t think there’s a setting to notify before renewing. You can, however, turn off the automatic renewal on your subscription if you wish, by following the directions on this page: shoutmeloud.com

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:11:10pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

P.S. You’ll need to reload the page first, I think.

attempting now…

115 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:11:17pm

re: #112 jaunte

That could be because you’ve already signed up at the new subscription price. I think you have to already be paying the pre-discount price or it won’t show the options.

116 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:14:04pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

I signed up this afternoon for a new subscription, but my page is displaying the ‘Not subscribed’ button, and I still see the ads.

117 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:15:50pm

re: #116 jaunte

I signed up this afternoon for a new subscription, but my page is displaying the ‘Not subscribed’ button, and I still see the ads.

That “Not Subscribed” button at the bottom of the comment form is not for an ad-free subscription - it’s to let you “subscribe” to the comments in a thread.

But I’ll check your account - did you log out and back in?

118 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:16:44pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

I’ll try that.

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:16:47pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

attempting now…

OK, cancelling my current auto-renew first…

120 Snarknado!  Dec 18, 2014 5:17:04pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Yeah, that’s handled entirely by PayPal and I don’t think there’s a setting to notify before renewing. You can, however, turn off the automatic renewal on your subscription if you wish, by following the directions on this page: shoutmeloud.com

Rather have a renewal without notice than one more thing to remember. But keep it in mind, please

121 PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2014 5:18:56pm

If I want to renew my subscription today instead of when it is due can I do it now?

122 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 5:18:57pm

Speaking of hacks:
Files of more than 40,000 federal workers breached

WASHINGTON (AP) — The computer files of more than 40,000 federal workers may have been compromised by a cyberattack at federal contractor KeyPoint Government Solutions, the second breach this year at a major firm handling national security background investigations of workers at federal agencies, the government confirmed Thursday.

Concerned that some data might have been exposed, the Office of Personnel Management has begun notifying the workers that their files were in jeopardy. Nathalie Arriola, speaking for the personnel office, said it will offer credit monitoring at no cost to those affected by the breach…

Keypoint does security clearances for the government. It is currently the largest private contractor doing this work because its rival, USIS, was hacked earlier in the year and so dropped by the gov. Let me see now, your main rival gets hacked so you…

If these contractors’ competence in security is any reflection of their competence overall then we know how Edward Snowden was hired,

123 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 5:19:17pm

re: #103 darthstar

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124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:20:47pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, cancelling my current auto-renew first…

OK, that didn’t work. There’s no “modify” thingie. And my subscription was cancelled. I was auto-renewed in September, hoping I haven’t screwed things up…

125 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 5:22:58pm

re: #123 De Kolta Chair

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another reminder of why i hated the 1950s

126 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:27:46pm

War on Christmas continues:

“Jesus is the reason for the season,” [Bud Williams, city councilor in Springfield, Mass] said at a Tuesday ceremony, according to masslive.com.

His remarks wouldn’t really be notable, except that Williams was speaking at a menorah lighting ceremony, to mark the beginning of Hanukkah.
washingtonpost.com

127 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:28:55pm

re: #118 jaunte

I’ll try that.

Discovered a bug! Should be fixed now.

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, that didn’t work. There’s no “modify” thingie. And my subscription was cancelled. I was auto-renewed in September, hoping I haven’t screwed things up…

Checking…

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:29:18pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Yeah, that’s handled entirely by PayPal and I don’t think there’s a setting to notify before renewing. You can, however, turn off the automatic renewal on your subscription if you wish, by following the directions on this page: shoutmeloud.com

That site is out of date. PayPal doesn’t have any of those options anymore, at least for me. All I could do was cancel the LGF subscription.

129 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 18, 2014 5:29:49pm

Ever look forward to one of those clear the fridge of leftovers dinners? Heh, got lucky this time. leftover steak, potatoes, onion and some bacon all into the pan with salsa and some refried beans. That will go into flour tortillas rolled up, covered with red sauce and garnished with onion and cheese. That goes into a hot oven briefly and boom, wet burritos for dinner.

130 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:29:50pm

Thanks, that did it, ad-free now!

131 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 5:30:44pm

Discover this one weird trick for going ad-free.

132 PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2014 5:31:14pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is why when I renew my subscription to LGF, I will be changing my debit card to my local credit union.

133 Lancelot Link  Dec 18, 2014 5:34:43pm

re: #125 dog philosopher

another reminder of why i hated the 1950s

Ernie Kovacs???
I mean, there are still cigars…

134 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:35:06pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, looks like you canceled your subscription, all right. I’ve re-enabled your account for another year from September 23.

135 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:37:15pm

re: #121 PhillyPretzel

If I want to renew my subscription today instead of when it is due can I do it now?

Try clicking the subscribe button above, but reload the page first because I’ve been tweaking things.

I’ve set it so that you should now see an option to change your subscription plan to the new price, when your current subscription expires.

136 PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2014 5:38:37pm

re: #121 PhillyPretzel

Charles as to my subscription I will wait until next September. And as I mentioned up thread I will be changing my debit card to my local credit union.

137 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 5:39:33pm

Happy Hanukkah

138 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:40:00pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Yep, looks like you canceled your subscription, all right. I’ve re-enabled your account for another year from September 23.

OK, here was the message at PayPal:

You haven’t set up any Preapproved Payments yet. They’re an easier and more secure way to send money or automate payments. To get started, go to our client’s website that offers PayPal Preapproved Payments.

Which is weird because LGF was indeed a “pre-approved payment subscription” (I had no idea that it was set up that way, I was waiting for an email from PayPal in September asking me to approve the renewal).
In any event, I found another “pre-approved payment” for Network Solutions from 2011. No freaking idea what that was, but I cancelled it.

139 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:44:46pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

PayPal’s subscription system is kind of a mess, and the docs are, too. Frustrating to work with.

140 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:45:54pm

Meanwhile, Chuck’s been hitting the sauce again.

141 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:49:32pm

re: #120 Snarknado!

Rather have a renewal without notice than one more thing to remember. But keep it in mind, please

I’m putting this on the to-do list right now. Should be possible to send an email if a subscription is approaching its expiration date.

142 TedStriker  Dec 18, 2014 5:50:01pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Chuck’s been hitting the sauce again.

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WTF is that word salad supposed to mean?

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:50:09pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

PayPal’s subscription system is kind of a mess, and the docs are, too. Frustrating to work with.

Are there any lizards out there who get a renewal notice? If so, how did you do that?

144 Kragar  Dec 18, 2014 5:51:02pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Chuck’s been hitting the sauce again.

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145 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 5:52:23pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Chuck’s been hitting the sauce again.

Speaking of which, one of my very favorite Xmas songs is “Daddy’s Drinking Up Our Christmas” by Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen…

Daddy’s Drinking Up Our Christmas

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 5:53:16pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

PayPal’s subscription system is kind of a mess, and the docs are, too. Frustrating to work with.

Yep, it is.
Anyhoo…I’m not seeing a modify thing, so I guess I don’t get to take advantage of the LGF Christmas special.

*quietly sobbing*

147 lawhawk  Dec 18, 2014 5:53:27pm
148 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 5:53:47pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are there any lizards out there who get a renewal notice? If so, how did you do that?

No - I’ve been checking into exactly this, and PayPal doesn’t send renewal notices for subscriptions. I think it does send you a notice if it tries to auto-renew and fails because there’s not enough in the account.

There might be a way for me to code my own renewal notices though. I’ll be looking into that.

149 dog philosopher  Dec 18, 2014 5:59:21pm

re: #133 Lancelot Link

Ernie Kovacs???
I mean, there are still cigars…

even ernie kovacs was subjected to the depredations and disfigurations of the era

150 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 5:59:48pm

re: #147 lawhawk

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson

My life is a trigger warning to sensitize souls and a middle finger to cowards.

Translation:

Of course, this is meant as a joke. I wish no harm to befall CCJ or any other schmucks.

151 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 6:00:37pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Chuck’s been hitting the sauce again.

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If he’d left it at “My life is a trigger warning,” it would have been the truest thing he ever wrote.

152 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 18, 2014 6:00:44pm

OK, Gotta mentally prepare myself for the weekend.

Tomorrow, I go with the Wife and kids to Gatlinburg TN. Yeah, that’s bad enough, but we have to go and spend the weekend at a cabin with my Wife’s entire extended family. It’s not my Mother/Father/Brother/Sister in law that are so bad. It’s my Wife’s Aunts/Uncles and Grandparents/Cousins. I am going into the East Tennessee chapter of Fox News believers, oh shit.

Been going there with my wife for now 13 years, and even though Gatlinburg is a Tourist area, Black people are not that populous and being in an Interracial marriage is not that readily accepted there. It really bothered my Wife the way we were treated the first couple of times there.

And that’s not even getting to some of the members of the extended family. There are some straight up racists in the family, all in the older generation(50 yrs+ of age) Some have barely spoken to me. A couple of them have warmed up somewhat. One Cousin used to be racist as fuck, now he’s just racist as hell, so I guess that’s progress.

I fear that the place we stay will not have Wi-Fi (didn’t last year). If it doesn’t, I’ll see everyone later. I’m sure I’ll have to argue that President Obama is not a Communist, Mike Brown is not a Demon, and Chuck Johnson is a floor pooper.

153 Bubblehead II  Dec 18, 2014 6:01:22pm

Night Lizards. IF. rule now invoked. Sleep well.

154 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Dec 18, 2014 6:06:10pm

re: #151 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If he’d left it at “My life is a trigger warning,” it would have been the truest thing he ever wrote.

Trigger warnings precede descriptions of violence, sexual assault, and other traumatic events.

Boasting “My life is a trigger warning” is either an admission of having lived horrific things, having inflicted horrific things on others, or completely fucking hollow I-offend-liberals braying.

Guess which is the case.

155 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 18, 2014 6:06:32pm

re: #152 nearly-headless smith25

OK, Gotta mentally prepare myself for the weekend.

Tomorrow, I go with the Wife and kids to Gatlinburg TN. Yeah, that’s bad enough, but we have to go and spend the weekend at a cabin with my Wife’s entire extended family. It’s not my Mother/Father/Brother/Sister in law that are so bad. It’s my Wife’s Aunts/Uncles and Grandparents/Cousins. I am going into the East Tennessee chapter of Fox News believers, oh shit.

Been going there with my wife for now 13 years, and even though Gatlinburg is a Tourist area, Black people are not that populous and being in an Interracial marriage is not that readily accepted there. It really bothered my Wife the way we were treated the first couple of times there.

And that’s not even getting to some of the members of the extended family. There are some straight up racists in the family, all in the older generation(50 yrs+ of age) Some have barely spoken to me. A couple of them have warmed up somewhat. One Cousin used to be racist as fuck, now he’s just racist as hell, so I guess that’s progress.

I fear that the place we stay will not have Wi-Fi (didn’t last year). If it doesn’t, I’ll see everyone later. I’m sure I’ll have to argue that President Obama is not a Communist, Mike Brown is not a Demon, and Chuck Johnson is a floor pooper.

You have my sympathy. I had in laws from Knoxville area who rail about the government after retiring on extremely good pension from TVA. “Fundamentalist” Roman Catholics on top of it. They could bring out the Henry VIII in me, let’s say.

156 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 6:08:01pm

re: #145 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of which, one of my very favorite Xmas songs is “Daddy’s Drinking Up Our Christmas” by Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen…

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Does that album have “Police Nabbed My Dad”

157 Snarknado!  Dec 18, 2014 6:09:25pm

re: #152 nearly-headless smith25

{{nearly-headless-smith25}}

Sounds a bit like family gatherings of my youth. The older generation has all died out, though.

158 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 6:09:45pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, it is.
Anyhoo…I’m not seeing a modify thing, so I guess I don’t get to take advantage of the LGF Christmas special.

*quietly sobbing*

Actually, since I’ve set up a manual subscription for you already, if you use the Donate button to pay $59.95 I’ll extend your subscription for another year.

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 6:11:58pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Actually, since I’ve set up a manual subscription for you already, if you use the Donate button to pay $59.95 I’ll extend your subscription for another year.

Yay, me! Done!

Thanks!

160 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 18, 2014 6:12:27pm

re: #83 b.d.

I hope that the US Govt. gives Chuck the proof he needs on the SONY hack being from North Korea and demand that he pays up on his $15,000 bounty for proof.

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A hijacked sys admin account sounds like a Snowden activity.
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161 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 6:12:48pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yay, me! Done!

Thanks!

Teacher’s pet.

162 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 6:13:26pm

re: #156 The Vicious Babushka

Does that album have “Police Nabbed My Dad”

They did a killer version of Riot In Cell Block # 9.

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 6:13:33pm

re: #161 b_sharp

Teacher’s pet.

heeheeeheeeeee!

164 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 18, 2014 6:16:02pm

3am acoustic

This is just a beautiful song.

165 Mattand  Dec 18, 2014 6:18:01pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

I only Just heard about your mishap. Hope you’re feeling better!

166 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 18, 2014 6:23:07pm

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

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Video

This is just a beautiful song.

Beautiful version of his best song. Thank you for posting it.

167 Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2014 6:25:12pm

CCJ meant to say “sensitive”, not “sensitize”.

My Derp lessons from Rosetta Stone are coming along.

168 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 6:28:47pm

re: #111 jaunte

Embedded Image

theatlantic.com

Bakersfield is a city? I remember when it was five bars, four strip joints, ten truck stops, 4,000 tumbleweeds, and the only thing they had in common was they were all Buck Owens fans.

169 #FergusonFireside  Dec 18, 2014 6:31:43pm

re: #79 b.d.

CBS Evening News was based out of Havana this evening, I think that the GOP couldn’t be further away from the thinking of the American people in their opposition to the Cuba news.

170 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 6:32:40pm

re: #167 Decatur Deb

CCJ meant to say “sensitive”, not “sensitize”.

My Derp lessons from Rosetta Stone are coming along.

Sometimes I worry about you.

171 Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2014 6:33:16pm

re: #169 #FergusonFireside

He’s in possession of contraband. Impeach!

172 #FergusonFireside  Dec 18, 2014 6:35:53pm

re: #152 nearly-headless smith25

Good luck Smithy.

173 Floral Giraffe  Dec 18, 2014 6:41:19pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

You could add a button to our profile, that says when the subscription expires. Might be easier to code than an email from PayPal….

174 The War TARDIS  Dec 18, 2014 6:42:55pm

Well, we have new teasers for the Doctor Who Christmas Special

Included below are 13 spoiler-free teasers and dialogue from the upcoming Doctor Who festive special, Last Christmas. Read Blogtor’s review HERE.
Someone has Time Lord technology.

“He’s probably texting women of low moral character.”

The Doctor reveals he finds someone sexually attractive.

“That noise. I never realised how much I loved it.”

Something heard in Turn Left is heard again

“My Little Pony”

The Elves find something in common with Clara

“It’s the North Pole, and I own it.”

The Doctor almost quotes Die Hard.

“That is rude. That is perverted.”

Santa reveals how reindeer can fly.

“We’re being hacked!”

The Doctor quotes Madame Vastra

We already had this earlier:

“Jenna and Capaldi seem more tactile in this episode”

Hmmmmm……

175 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 6:43:18pm
176 The War TARDIS  Dec 18, 2014 6:46:01pm

re: #175 De Kolta Chair

To what?

177 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 6:47:34pm

re: #176 The War TARDIS

To what?

The end of a one person golden age of satire.

178 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 6:49:15pm

re: #173 Floral Giraffe

You could add a button to our profile, that says when the subscription expires. Might be easier to code than an email from PayPal….

That would be a good solution, except that the PayPal system doesn’t send you any kind of notification when a subscription is automatically renewed, so you have no way of getting the real expiration date after that.

Still pondering how to solve it.

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 6:53:33pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

The end of a one person golden age of satire.

And tonight is the last Colbert Report.

180 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 7:00:09pm

Absolute insanity at the Louisville (KY) City Council meeting right now on the topic of minimum wage.

twitter.com

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2014 7:06:48pm

for the Colbert Report…

niters all…

183 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 7:07:36pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

for the Colbert Report…

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niters all…

Boo who?

184 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 7:11:16pm

re: #168 De Kolta Chair

Bakersfield is a city? I remember when it was five bars, four strip joints, ten truck stops, 4,000 tumbleweeds, and the only thing they had in common was they were all Buck Owens fans.

Bakersfield is weird. On the one hand the oil field is fucking hell with the lid off.

Aerial pic of Kern River Oil Field (Wikipedia Commons)

On the other hand the city is really bicycle friendly, which makes for an odd juxtaposition. There’s a nice wide bike path all along the river as it winds past that scabrous, fucked up landscape. One of the years I followed the Tour of California the finish line was there at the University, and the riders came riding up from that dusty, toxic hellhole.

Here’s another pic of the oil field from ground level, and the photographer’s page. The place is apocalyptic.

185 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2014 7:30:14pm
186 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 7:36:30pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

I find it kind of strange to see Louisville described as a “Southern” city.

Louisville was never part of the old South. Today it may be a bastion of throwbacks (creationists and such), compared to places out here on the left coast.

What we see in KY I like to call modern reactionism. The likes of Rand Paul are anti-modernity because life has changed too quickly for some people since the advent of modern telecommunications.

KY and WV may be associated with the “South” today because of contemporary politics, ranging from coal to creationism.

187 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 18, 2014 7:37:02pm

Lil sad. My Mom has been gone twenty years ago today. Miss ya Mom RIP. Merry Christmas wherever you are.

188 #FergusonFireside  Dec 18, 2014 7:38:45pm

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

Lil sad. My Mom has been gone twenty years ago today. Miss ya Mom RIP. Merry Christmas wherever you are.

:( and you carry on.

189 b_sharp  Dec 18, 2014 7:42:17pm

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

Lil sad. My Mom has been gone twenty years ago today. Miss ya Mom RIP. Merry Christmas wherever you are.

Coming up to my mom’s 20th too in a few months.

I know how you feel my friend.

{{{{RWC

190 bratwurst  Dec 18, 2014 7:45:19pm
191 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 18, 2014 7:51:37pm

re: #189 b_sharp

Coming up to my mom’s 20th too in a few months.

I know how you feel my friend.

{{{{RWC

My mom passed away 20 years ago this month. We said good night on a Saturday, found her alongside her bed Sunday morning. She was 80 and had had a history of mini-strokes — almost like petit mal seizures. She had a larger one that night, probably on her way back to bed from the bathroom.

She was small but feisty. My brother-in-law called her “all piss and vinegar” but still warm and friendly.

192 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 18, 2014 7:54:29pm

BTW, Charles, you put the annual subscription at a price point I can afford, so I bit the bullet and subscribed. I’m sure losing the ads will improve page load speeds on my mobile devices.

Also, have you stopped blocking Chinese IP addresses wholesale? I was pleased I can access the site no matter where I am in China.

193 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 7:57:21pm

re: #190 bratwurst

Is there anything for which he won’t beg? I know: rhetorical question.

194 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 7:59:15pm

re: #190 bratwurst

CCJ is always easy to track down. Make note of that, Mississippi DA’s.

195 Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2014 8:01:38pm

re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

BTW, Charles, you put the annual subscription at a price point I can afford, so I bit the bullet and subscribed. I’m sure losing the ads will improve page load speeds on my mobile devices.

Also, have you stopped blocking Chinese IP addresses wholesale? I was pleased I can access the site no matter where I am in China.

Yes, I took out the blocks because there weren’t as many malicious bots showing up.

196 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 18, 2014 8:01:39pm

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

Been just about 15 here. The pain lessens but it never completely goes away.

197 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 18, 2014 8:04:16pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Yes, I took out the blocks because there weren’t as many malicious bots showing up.

Good. I told my minions to lay off Little Green Footballs, but it took a while for the memo to get around.

//

198 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 18, 2014 8:14:23pm

And so, off to see how many guests are spending the night in lovely downtown Hayward WI. L8ter.

199 Floral Giraffe  Dec 18, 2014 8:17:33pm

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

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I saw the burnt building last weekend. It was epic….
No idea it was that ginormous!

200 goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2014 8:24:25pm
201 Jenner7  Dec 18, 2014 8:30:00pm

Eight children stabbed to death in Cairns - rolling report

theguardian.com

Damn, damn, damn.

202 klystron  Dec 18, 2014 8:30:06pm

I should check into how my subscription is set up and see about doing this.

Maybe tomorrow.

I fell asleep on the train and then got off at the wrong stop. It was one of those days.

203 darthstar  Dec 18, 2014 8:30:50pm

re: #111 jaunte

Yay, Fresno!

204 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 8:33:18pm

Change “I’m” to “we’re” and it makes more sense, and a better joke.

205 psddluva4evah  Dec 18, 2014 8:42:14pm

Watching the FINAL broadcast of The Colbert Show.

Gonna miss it a lot.

I consistently found it better than the Daily Show.

Stephen Colbert’s caricature will be missed.

@thedailybeast Meet @larrywilmore, Stephen Colbert’s replacement: thebea.st

206 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 8:44:14pm

re: #205 psddluva4evah

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

All things must pass?

207 teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2014 8:48:51pm

Well, Nebraska and Oklahoma’s lawyers don’t like cannabis at all.

208 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 8:57:18pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

Prohibition will die a slow death. Prohibition against alcohol had its ardent supporters even when it was clear that the whole concept was causing more harm than preventing it.

As for me, I guess I am what kids these days call “straight edge”, so I don’t get too worked up about all of this. Yet I can’t help but wonder what the US will be like in 30 years once marijuana becomes more widely available legally. Will we see any difference?

209 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 9:00:18pm

Lincoln was a unicorn? Why didn’t award-winning journalist Chucky Johnson’s researchers know that?

210 Dark_Falcon  Dec 18, 2014 9:02:12pm

re: #201 Jenner7

Eight children stabbed to death in Cairns - rolling report

theguardian.com

Damn, damn, damn.

What the fuck? How does someone even get into their head the idea that murdering children is a good idea?! [shakes head in disbelief]

211 teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2014 9:03:32pm

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

Lil sad. My Mom has been gone twenty years ago today. Miss ya Mom RIP. Merry Christmas wherever you are.

{{{Rightwingconspirator}}}

212 jaunte  Dec 18, 2014 9:03:53pm

re: #209 De Kolta Chair

Lincoln was a unicorn? How come Chucky Johnson’s researchers didn’t know that?

Back in the day, they walked openly among us.

213 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 9:05:16pm

re: #212 jaunte

The luck o’ the Irish. Shoulda known.

214 teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2014 9:06:56pm

re: #191 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

re: #189 b_sharp

My mom is my everything. She’s been my biggest supporter in absolutely every crazy fucking thing that I have done. She’s got my back no matter what.

When she leaves this mortal coil will be the saddest day of my life.

215 Teukka  Dec 18, 2014 9:08:15pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

What the fuck? How does someone even get into their head the idea that murdering children is a good idea?! [shakes head in disbelief]

Sadly, it is as simple as dehumanizing the children and/or their parent(s).

This is true for everything from the very messy divorce to the recent attack on the School in Peshawar, Pakistan.

*SMH*

216 psddluva4evah  Dec 18, 2014 9:09:05pm

Very nice and touching ending to the Colbert Show.

Stephen Colbert was the best, better than his “mentor” John Stewart.

217 Dark_Falcon  Dec 18, 2014 9:11:13pm

re: #215 Teukka

Sadly, it is as simple as dehumanizing the children and/or their parent(s).

This is true for everything from the very messy divorce to the recent attack on the School in Peshawar, Pakistan.

*SMH*

I understand that, its just that this week has been unusally ugly in terms of scumbags killing kids and so this last story got to me more than a little.

218 teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2014 9:12:41pm

re: #208 freetoken

Prohibition will die a slow death. Prohibition against alcohol had its ardent supporters even when it was clear that the whole concept was causing more harm than preventing it.

As for me, I guess I am what kids these days call “straight edge”, so I don’t get too worked up about all of this. Yet I can’t help but wonder what the US will be like in 30 years once marijuana becomes more widely available legally. Will we see any difference?

In my circles cannabis has always been around. The joke here is that these days we have storefronts and get a reciept instead of meeting your boy in the Walmart parking lot or - in my case - on some dirt road to make the transaction.

The “Millennials” (gawd I hate that word, and FTR I’m considered an older millennial) are far more progressive than generations past on things like cannabis and gay marriage. Much like the baby boomers were far more progressive than previous generations on things like race and women’s rights.

It’s only a matter of time.

219 De Kolta Chair  Dec 18, 2014 9:13:28pm

Here’s hoping that’ll be the last we ever see of Henry Kissinger.

220 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:18:58pm

re: #208 freetoken

Prohibition will die a slow death. Prohibition against alcohol had its ardent supporters even when it was clear that the whole concept was causing more harm than preventing it.

As for me, I guess I am what kids these days call “straight edge”, so I don’t get too worked up about all of this. Yet I can’t help but wonder what the US will be like in 30 years once marijuana becomes more widely available legally. Will we see any difference?

Snack food makers’ stock will soar.

221 sagehen  Dec 18, 2014 9:22:55pm

re: #220 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Snack food makers’ stock will soar.

But valium, xanax, and a dozen other pharmaceuticals will lose a huge percentage of their sales.

222 Dark_Falcon  Dec 18, 2014 9:24:02pm

Good Night, All. Sorry I haven’t been around much, but my gout’s been bothering me.

223 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:26:43pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Ouch! Take care of yourself.

224 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:28:13pm

re: #221 sagehen

But valium, xanax, and a dozen other pharmaceuticals will lose a huge percentage of their sales.

Which of course has nothing to do with the gov keeping cannabis in the same category as heroin and other dangerous drugs.

225 BeachDem  Dec 18, 2014 9:30:29pm

Just what the clown car needs, Carly Fiorina. (Bring on the demon sheep)

Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an “imminent” presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.

226 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 18, 2014 9:32:16pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

{{{DF}}}

227 austin_blue  Dec 18, 2014 9:33:08pm

re: #225 BeachDem

Just what the clown car needs, Carly Fiorina. (Bring on the demon sheep)

Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an “imminent” presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.

Well, that’s just crazy talk.

228 teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2014 9:33:41pm

re: #224 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Which of course has nothing to do with the gov keeping cannabis in the same category as heroin and other dangerous drugs.

I’m holding out hope that Obama will pull off an October Surprise in 2016, signing an Executive Order effectively removing cannabis from the FDA’s dangerous drug schedule.

Alcohol isn’t scheduled. Why the fuck should cannabis be dangerous drug numero uno?

229 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 9:34:40pm

re: #225 BeachDem

If politics is indeed a spectator sport, then the 2016 Presidential campaign is going to outdo the Superbowl.

230 austin_blue  Dec 18, 2014 9:35:18pm

re: #228 teleskiguy

I’m holding out hope that Obama will pull off an October Surprise in 2016, signing an Executive Order effectively removing cannabis from the FDA’s dangerous drug schedule.

Alcohol isn’t scheduled. Why the fuck should cannabis be dangerous drug numero uno?

Gateway drug!

(unlike caffeine or nicotine, dontcha know)

231 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 9:35:51pm

I see the hate-right is in full meltdown over the combination of the President talking about his past brushes with stereotyping plus the whole Cuba thing.

232 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 9:38:44pm

Another example of progress putting people out of work?

Calligraphers cry foul as Vatican shuts down scrollmakers

Rino Pensa and son have been making papal parchments for decades, crafting hand-painted blessing scrolls in Italy which are purchased by the faithful around the world to celebrate marriages, baptisms and anniversaries.

But with the Vatican cracking down on the business amid reports of fake parchments being peddled to unwitting tourists for pricey sums, the family studio in the heart of Rome is being forced to close — with hundreds of artisans at risk of losing their jobs.

Calligraphers and painters will have to lay down their tools on December 31, as Pope Francis tries to ensure the Church’s apostolic benedictions, which were first issued about 100 years ago under Pope Leo XIII, raise as much money as possible for the poor.

Instead of being made by hand, the parchments will be computer prints produced by the Vatican’s Office of Papal Charities, which the pope’s almoner, Archbishop Konrad Krajewski, says will cut costs, stamp out fakes and raise more for charity.

[…]

233 nines09  Dec 18, 2014 9:40:25pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

I do not know what happened friend, but I hope all goes well and each day becomes brighter. Keep swinging.
{{{{{WW}}}}}

234 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:44:18pm

re: #225 BeachDem

Just what the clown car needs, Carly Fiorina. (Bring on the demon sheep)

Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an “imminent” presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.

Somehow, I don’t think she’s going to run on “I’ll do for America what I did for Hewlett-Packard.”

235 austin_blue  Dec 18, 2014 9:46:19pm

re: #231 freetoken

I see the hate-right is in full meltdown over the combination of the President talking about his past brushes with stereotyping plus the whole Cuba thing.

Since January, 2009, the R’s have been covertly yelling n*****! n*****! n*****! while overtly saying they aren’t yelling n*****! n*****! n*****!

Let’s just accept the fact they are doing a terrible job of it. If the President walked across the Potomac River, they would claim he was too lazy to swim.

236 BillinGlendaleCA  Dec 18, 2014 9:47:47pm

re: #234 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Shrub already did that, it wouldn’t be original.

237 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:50:20pm

How long until CCJ is the first to break the Fiorina story?

238 austin_blue  Dec 18, 2014 9:51:16pm

It’s raining! Sadly, it looks like it will fall in town and not to the west, where the reservoirs are. Nature can be a ratfucker.

239 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 9:52:34pm

re: #235 austin_blue

I’m thinking of doing a full Page about the latest publication in Cell, where 23andMe researchers finally got published their demographic research they reported more informally a few months ago.

Basically, all those pure-blood types over at VDARE aren’t going to like how miscegenated America has become.

The artifices of “race” have to fall, and with that a great deal of scaffolding holding up outdated worldviews, worldviews created to support the hate-legacy.

240 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 9:55:59pm

re: #238 austin_blue

It’s raining! Sadly, it looks like it will fall in town and not to the west, where the reservoirs are. Nature can be a ratfucker.

Fortunately for my Southern California small town, the last two rains here fell most heavily in the nearby foothills. Our reservoir is behind a dam up there so we’re looking better. The rest of the state needs a 11 trillion gallons’ worth of water to catch up with our losses from the drought.

241 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 10:00:14pm

re: #240 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The last 7 days have been the wettest here almost since the beginning of the year. Rain being, like always, spotty around SoCal with neighboring valleys receiving varying amounts, still around my area the past week we got between 1.5 and 2 inches of rain.

Now we’re down just 50% below the average for yearly rainfall.

242 Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2014 10:03:24pm

re: #240 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Here in the East Bay my rain gauge has 12.08”. If we can get some cold storms maybe we’ll get some snow accumulation below 7,000’. The cynic in me expects a high pressure system to build off of Baja and cock-block the storms that we need in January-April.

243 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 18, 2014 10:12:55pm

re: #241 freetoken

re: #242 Single-handed sailor

Great news. I appreciate every drop we get. NOAA says that El Niño conditions are present in the Northern Hemisphere though they also forecast that if El Niño forms it will be weak.

244 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 10:43:50pm

re: #243 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well, it still looks like 2014 will end up dryer than average (for the 20th century), but less dry than the preceding year.

Technically, for California the seasonal precipitation is counted July thru June, as most of the precip comes in winter.

Locally the loquat trees are looking better since the rain. Many trees of all types were shedding leaves this year to cope with the lack of rain. 2014 was a bad year for loquats, figs, and some citrus. I hope 2015 is better.

245 freetoken  Dec 18, 2014 10:56:43pm
246 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 12:37:11am

It’s not unusual for us to come across creationists who beclown themselves with outlandish statements. Most of the time we ascribe this to a lack of education.

But there is another whole level of creationist duplicity perpetrated by those who like to think of themselves as highly educated, maybe even the most educated among their kind.

To set the stage here, some background:

The Southern Baptist Convention (denomination) is the largest evangelical/Protestant group in the US.

Their biggest seminary, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, trains many who eventually lead said denomination, is in Louisville, KY. It is headed by Albert Mohler, who I call Mullah Mohler, for he certainly is equivalent to what that title entails is some Muslim educational systems. Mohler took over SBTS and cleansed it of the theologically impure, making sure only true believers are teaching the youngsters. He also has a habit of hanging out with the usual subjects we find in what we call the American Right.

At the undergraduate school of SBTS one of the true believers is professor Denny Burk, who usually mirrors most anything Mohler writes. Recently Burk posted this on his blog:

Doug Wilson’s gut-punch to theistic evolutionists

Before we go any farther, for those who are not familiar with Doug Wilson you can read about him at Wikipedia. Shorter version - he’s what you’d expect of an American fundamentalist who hangs out with the League of the South.

Anyway, Burk writes of Wilson’s recent attack on Biologos:

Doug Wilson delivers a gut-punch to the theistic evolutionary group Biologos. You should read the whole thing, […]

It’s a rather short entry redirecting his readers to Wilson’s blog post. Burk doesn’t define “gut punch”, but the usual connotation implies a disabling blow.

So let’s go to Wilson’s entry and see what he says (and here I am linking to Wilson’s blog directly, which I don’t think is an issue as his blog isn’t littered with ads which track, but I could be wrong.)

7 Reasons Why BioLogos Is A Threat to Classical Christian Education

Wilson lists 7 reasons but I am only going to address his first one:

1. The first thing to notice is that while encouraging “scholarly work on these questions,” they are not subjecting their own options to any kind of rigorous or logical analysis. So genetic evidence shows that humans descended from a group of several thousand about 150,000 years ago? Now when walking upstream like this, one wonders why they stopped right where they decided to stop.

This is because we could also say that genetic evidence shows that humans descended from about a billion people 200 years ago. And when we greet the several thousand ancestors from 150,000 years ago one wonders (does one not?) whether they had parents, whether they had common ancestors. What possible reason could we have for tracing our human ancestry to its point of origin, but then stopping a few centuries short? I’ll bet with a little scholarly work on this question we could go upstream a little bit further. We might even get to meet our mother Eve and discover just how hairy her back was, and how good she was at picking nits from Adam’s scalp.

Wilson doesn’t link to a Biologos particular entry, but science teacher Doug Venema has written a series of Biologos entries on genetics and human evolution. His most recent entries are here, here, and here. Venema does not offer anything but restatements on what one can find from the field of population genetics - he is simply popularizing the highly technical field.

And this is what Doug Wilson doesn’t understand and about which he spreads ignorance: population genetics.

For example, Wilson’s statement

“This is because we could also say that genetic evidence shows that humans descended from about a billion people 200 years ago”

is also wrong. He’s just pulling out that “billion” from the general study of human population numbers. Wilson doesn’t realize that many of the people who lived 200 years ago do not have descendants living today.

Furthermore, population biology estimates would have given minimum values for a population, not a head count.

This is something Wilson clearly doesn’t understand when he writes

“So genetic evidence shows that humans descended from a group of several thousand about 150,000 years ago? Now when walking upstream like this, one wonders why they stopped right where they decided to stop.”

No one “stopped” when doing population genetics. The “several thousand” is a statement about a minima in human population (which has increased and decreased throughout its evolution) necessary to account for genetic diversity found in humans today. This population estimate doesn’t even assume these several thousand people all lived in the same place.

In other words, Wilson misleads because he hasn’t a clue about which he writes. It’s a classic case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And then we have Professor Burk, who leads his followers to Wilson, because Burk also hasn’t a clue about why Wilson hasn’t a clue about evolution or much anything that isn’t presupposed fundamentalist truths.

On the whole Wilson’s writings are just exercises in epistemological navel gazing, based upon presuppositional apologetics. Sometimes laced with that Good Old Southern boy additive. Yet he is an epitome in certain Christian education circles, “education” being proscribed totally by theological correctness.

I walk away from this once again convinced that genetics is far more scary to fundamentalist creationists than geology, at least today. Genetics proves solidly that we never descended from only one man and one woman (Adam, Eve, and then Noah.)

247 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 12:43:31am

Well, that was longer than the usual comment.

248 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 12:47:30am

I suppose I could Page it, but I don’t know what I’d call it.

Maybe….

Creationist beclowning, all the way down.

or maybe…

It's a Short Ride from Louisville to Idaho.

249 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 12:49:53am

Some music while I ponder possible titles:

MP3 Audio

250 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 2:10:09am

The Colbert Report is gone.

Disturbance in the Force

Not the kind of thing I want to wake up to. :(

251 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 2:12:10am

Nope, couldn’t come up with a good title.

Here’s our consolation music:

MP3 Audio

MP3 Audio

MP3 Audio

252 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 2:17:20am

re: #251 freetoken

Nope, couldn’t come up with a good title.

Here’s our consolation music:

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You could always do “This one neat trick …” or ” … and you won’t believe what happens next!” :D

253 Dr Lizardo  Dec 19, 2014 2:36:03am

Mandy Rice-Davies, one of the key figures in the Profumo Affair - a 1960’s scandal which ultimately brought down the government of PM Harold Macmillan - has died at the age of 70. RIP.

For those not familiar with this little episode in British history, there’s this to watch - an outstanding film starring Ian McKellan, John Hurt, Joanne Whalley as Christine Keeler, and Bridget Fonda as the late Mandy Rice-Davies.

Sc@nd@l 1989

en.wikipedia.org

254 freetoken  Dec 19, 2014 2:58:52am

re: #252 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

You could always do “This one neat trick …” or ” … and you won’t believe what happens next!” :D

Click-bait specials:


You Won't Believe This!

Learn How This Woman Beat The Odds!

Scientists Have Proven This Possible!

Everything You Know Is Wrong!!

255 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 19, 2014 3:28:09am

Everything you don’t know is wrong too.

256 Timothy Watson  Dec 19, 2014 4:10:52am

TPM gives CC McChuckleNuts too much credit:
talkingpointsmemo.com

257 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 4:29:31am

re: #225 BeachDem

Just what the clown car needs, Carly Fiorina. (Bring on the demon sheep)

Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an “imminent” presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.

Actually, she’d be something the Republican debates should feature: A non-crazy woman. That would have value, even if only for appearances sake.

258 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:29:54am

re: #246 freetoken

You’ve identified one of the key areas of ignorance (or willful ignorance) among the creationists. They can’t get their heads around the population part of population genetics, or the related issue of the evolution of a population of organisms in a given environment. They oversimplify the evolution of hominid to modern human as ape —> human, as if one day all the apes decided, “Hey! Let’s evolve into humans!” Then, they can ask the numbskull question, “If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” They have this notion stuck in their heads that a single organism (crocodile) morphed into another (duck) within a few generations, instead of an entire population of organisms gradually mutating over millions of generations into ducks.

And here is the other problem they have: accepting the fact that the Earth is billions of years old. If your mind is limiting the Earth to a few thousand years old, you’re not able to accept the idea of evolution requiring millions of generations to create a new species.

I lived in Louisville long enough to remember the pre-Mullah Mohler days. Before the purge, SBTS was a worthy institution with a broad-minded concept of how Baptists could help and understand society. There was even a social work program in cooperation with the U of Louisville. No more. The moderates and liberals were purged, leaving only the cons. Several of my seminary friends left town for more hospitable surroundings.

259 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:31:58am

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Actually, she’d be something the Republican debates should feature: A non-crazy woman. That would have value, even if only for appearances sake.

Which means she has not a chance. Only Tea Party-crazy female GOP candidates need apply.

260 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 4:33:46am

re: #256 Timothy Watson

TPM gives CC McChuckleNuts too much credit:
talkingpointsmemo.com

I hate when articles call Charles C. Johnson a ‘conservative’, since he’s not trying to conserve anything. I’d prefer they call him a ‘reactionary’, a ‘right-wing radical’, a ‘far-right ass-clown’ or an ‘anti-feminist floor-pooper’.

261 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 4:34:41am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Which means she has not a chance. Only Tea Party-crazy female GOP candidates need apply.

She doesn’t need to win, she aides the party just by being there.

262 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:37:53am

re: #261 Dark_Falcon

She doesn’t need to win, she aides the party just by being there.

I’m not suggesting she needs to win. I’m suggesting the Tea Party factions will reject her as a RINO, since I suspect she’s not as extreme as Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin in her politics or social agenda.

263 Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2014 4:41:34am
264 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 19, 2014 4:42:38am

OH HAI.

We’re going to Toronto for the weekend, so I will not be posting here since there are no Internets in Canada.

At least none that I have access too.

See you Sunday night & have a great weekend! (which I intend to do, in spite of no Internets)

265 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 4:45:42am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

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Yes, I know its a parody account, which is why my tweet was just a joke.

266 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:46:53am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI.

We’re going to Toronto for the weekend, so I will not be posting here since there are no Internets in Canada.

At least none that I have access too.

See you Sunday night & have a great weekend! (which I intend to do, in spite of no Internets)

I found Teh Internets in coffeehouses there. I like The Second Cup chain.

I spent four days in Toronto this summer. I recommend the experience.

267 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:48:10am

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I know its a parody account, which is why my tweet was just a joke.

Cuban catnip — hand picked and hand rolled by experts with years of experience.

268 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 19, 2014 4:50:02am

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Actually, she’d be something the Republican debates should feature: A non-crazy woman. That would have value, even if only for appearances sake.

Just utterly and completely incompetent (see Lucent, Compaq, DEC, HP & the Demon Sheep for proof).

269 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 4:51:16am

I’m surprised than Putin’s proxies in Ukraine were sent 300 Chechens in one battalion, but Putin’s gone and done it:

Pro-Russian separatists from the Chechen “Death” battalion walk during a training exercise in the territory controlled by the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, eastern Ukraine, December 8, 2014. Chanting “Allahu Akbar” (God is greatest), dozens of armed men in camouflage uniforms from Russia’s republic of Chechnya train in snow in a camp in the rebel-held east Ukraine. They say their “Death” unit fighting Ukrainian forces has 300 people, mostly former state security troops in the mainly-Muslim region where Moscow waged two wars against Islamic insurgents and which is now run by a Kremlin-backed strongman.

Image: tumblr_ngrtlnpPDz1r9khx4o6_1280.jpg

The idea may be to scare Ukrainian volunteers units with the Chechen’s reputation for ferocity and cruelty.

270 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 4:53:21am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

I’m surprised than Putin’s proxies in Ukraine were sent 300 Chechens in one battalion, but Putin’s gone and done it:

Image: tumblr_ngrtlnpPDz1r9khx4o6_1280.jpg

The idea may be to scare Ukrainian volunteers units with the Chechen’s reputation for ferocity and cruelty.

The latest version of Cossacks. Or real-life Sardaukar.

271 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 5:03:06am

BBT

272 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 5:05:04am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Cuban catnip — hand picked and hand rolled by experts with years of experience.

Rolled on the thighs of sensual Cuban women with years of experience. /you pay for the privilege

Seriously though, the fact is that the mythos of the Cuban cigar and the reality will turn out to be something different. It wont stop people from pushing up prices on Cuban cigars to crazy levels due to still limited supply, but intense demand, but the experts keep saying that other Latin American cigars are as good or better (mostly because they’ve gotten decades of experience from Cuban expats in growing, preparing, and rolling cigars).

I might smoke a cigar a year, if that, so the experience of a Cuban would probably be lost on me. I’d rather spend that money on a good bottle of wine.

273 Timothy Watson  Dec 19, 2014 5:06:30am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Cuban catnip — hand picked and hand rolled by experts with years of experience.

As long as they’re not Dominicans posing as Cubans.

(Pardon the extremely dated Seinfeld joke.)

274 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 5:06:32am

re: #270 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Putin’s Sardaukar wont be a match for the Ukrainian Fremen warriors defending their homeland.

275 Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2014 5:09:59am

I really, really hope this isn’t true.

276 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 5:17:05am

re: #272 lawhawk

Rolled on the thighs of sensual Cuban women with years of experience. /you pay for the privilege

Seriously though, the fact is that the mythos of the Cuban cigar and the reality will turn out to be something different. It wont stop people from pushing up prices on Cuban cigars to crazy levels due to still limited supply, but intense demand, but the experts keep saying that other Latin American cigars are as good or better (mostly because they’ve gotten decades of experience from Cuban expats in growing, preparing, and rolling cigars).

I might smoke a cigar a year, if that, so the experience of a Cuban would probably be lost on me. I’d rather spend that money on a good bottle of wine.

I wonder if loosening US-Cuban trade embargoes won’t lead to a reduction in Cuban cigar prices. I mean, one reason Cuban cigars cost so much is the panache of being banned in the USA. I can buy them here in China, but as I don’t smoke, I figure it’s a waste of my hard earned cash.

I had a publisher who smoked cigars. Although his office was at the far end of the newspaper building from the editorial cubicles, we always knew when he was in the building from the cigar fumes.

277 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 5:18:50am

re: #274 lawhawk

Putin’s Sardaukar wont be a match for the Ukrainian Fremen warriors defending their homeland.

They need a Ukrainian Muad’Dib to lead them.

278 Amory Blaine  Dec 19, 2014 5:24:01am

Signed up for the special last night. Not sure but I think my subscription has expired. ?.

279 Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2014 5:46:49am

re: #272 lawhawk

Rolled on the thighs of sensual Cuban women with years of experience. /you pay for the privilege

Seriously though, the fact is that the mythos of the Cuban cigar and the reality will turn out to be something different. It wont stop people from pushing up prices on Cuban cigars to crazy levels due to still limited supply, but intense demand, but the experts keep saying that other Latin American cigars are as good or better (mostly because they’ve gotten decades of experience from Cuban expats in growing, preparing, and rolling cigars).

I might smoke a cigar a year, if that, so the experience of a Cuban would probably be lost on me. I’d rather spend that money on a good bottle of wine.

Rosa’s Coronas

Rosa’s Coronas

(Specatularly timely.)

280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 19, 2014 5:49:05am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

I posted this a week or two ago. Ukrainians are laughing and talking about “battalion Shashlyk”.

281 Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2014 5:51:34am

This is about 10 years old, very hip for an Auburn girl from Mississippi.

Como estas?
My name is Rosa and like my mother before me
Everyday I roll cigars and they’re the finest in the world
To pass the time the reader reads about the violence in America
And I pray for my daughter and her baby girl

Late one night they took a boat ninety miles from Havana
To escape the only life I’ve ever known
She could have been just like me, a well-respected working woman
Who believes in her country and her home

And I wonder as I roll where will each one go
Will they land in the hands of kings and presidents
It’s an art, it’s a skill, and some would even kill
Just for one of Rosa’s coronas

It’s everywhere in the news that John Paul is on his way
And for years I’ve longed to see the Holy Father’s parade
We’ve been told not to go or production falls behind
But I know the quota won’t be made that day

282 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 19, 2014 5:51:52am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

Seems a bit too lurid.

283 Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2014 5:54:11am
284 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:16:22am

re: #16 wrenchwench

Not necessary, but thanks. However, if you have something that will type for me…

WWWWWWWWW!

So glad to see your post!

285 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:16:37am

Have I ever told you how much I hate Illinois Mornings?

286 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 6:17:12am

The IRS is warning that refunds will be delayed due to the latest batch of cuts to the IRS budget. It means reduced audits of businesses, and a reduction of revenue from tax revenues that would otherwise be collected through the audit process.

This is what the GOP wrought with their incessant plans to bleed the IRS dry and tax cuts that benefit a select few.

The GOP is not interested in governance and limited government. Those buzzwords are a cover for disassembling the safety net and government programs that most people in this country take for granted. They turn the IRS into a bogeyman for all that is wrong with government, ignoring that tax revenues are critical to funding government and the constitutional requirements of Congress - to protect and defend the nation, to assure health and welfare of the people, etc.

The GOP talks about how tax cuts for the wealthy will bolster the economy, even though 30 years of trickle down have shown that to be a lie - the very voodoo economics that GHWB warned about. It’s a mirage, but one that still gets lots of people to buy into the dream. It’s a mirage that the GOP cultivates and uses to gain tax cuts for a select few and pushes government at all levels into making budget busting decisions.

That’s not to say that Democrats haven’t tried their hand at tax cuts as well, but when you look at who benefits, the Democrats have generally provided a more progressive set of cuts that isn’t nearly as budget-busting as Republican plans and the burden of the tax revenues is on those who can most afford it.

287 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:18:58am

re: #272 lawhawk

Rolled on the thighs of sensual Cuban women with years of experience. /you pay for the privilege

Seriously though, the fact is that the mythos of the Cuban cigar and the reality will turn out to be something different. It wont stop people from pushing up prices on Cuban cigars to crazy levels due to still limited supply, but intense demand, but the experts keep saying that other Latin American cigars are as good or better (mostly because they’ve gotten decades of experience from Cuban expats in growing, preparing, and rolling cigars).

I might smoke a cigar a year, if that, so the experience of a Cuban would probably be lost on me. I’d rather spend that money on a good bottle of wine.

My Dad used to talk about Cuban cigars with this far-away look in his eyes.

288 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 6:21:41am

NYPD (assuming the moniker - ‘nock your punk ass down):

Cop repeatedly sucker punches a 12-year old for resisting arrest while other cops are trying to cuff the kid. It’s the undercover cop who comes in as other uniformed cops are handling the kid.

The video alone should be a firing offense. Period. I’ve got zero tolerance for this kind of crap, and I can’t wait to listen to the PBA claim that this was somehow justified or that the cop was acting according to proper procedures, even though the video shows the absolute opposite. There was no justification for the punches. None.

289 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:34:57am
290 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:35:19am

re: #288 lawhawk

NYPD (assuming the moniker - ‘nock your punk ass down):

[Embedded content]

Cop repeatedly sucker punches a 12-year old for resisting arrest while other cops are trying to cuff the kid. It’s the undercover cop who comes in as other uniformed cops are handling the kid.

The video alone should be a firing offense. Period. I’ve got zero tolerance for this kind of crap, and I can’t wait to listen to the PBA claim that this was somehow justified or that the cop was acting according to proper procedures, even though the video shows the absolute opposite. There was no justification for the punches. None.

What ever happned to “pick on someone your own size?”

291 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 6:37:22am
Good Dog Zoey! (zooborns.com)
292 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 6:40:03am

I know there are gamers here. Anyone played War Thunder?

293 Dr Lizardo  Dec 19, 2014 6:41:07am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

Wingnuts won’t know what to do. On the one hand, they suuuuure do love them some manly-man Putin but he’s gone and done deployed SOOPER SKEEERY EBIL MUZLIM JIHADISTS and I think it’s pretty safe to say the cognitive dissonance will be breathtaking to behold.

294 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 6:41:31am

re: #288 lawhawk

NYPD (assuming the moniker - ‘nock your punk ass down):

[Embedded content]

Cop repeatedly sucker punches a 12-year old for resisting arrest while other cops are trying to cuff the kid. It’s the undercover cop who comes in as other uniformed cops are handling the kid.

The video alone should be a firing offense. Period. I’ve got zero tolerance for this kind of crap, and I can’t wait to listen to the PBA claim that this was somehow justified or that the cop was acting according to proper procedures, even though the video shows the absolute opposite. There was no justification for the punches. None.

New York Pathetic Dicks. Beating a 12 year old kid. Stay classy assholes. So sick of these fuckers and then hearing them cry when people have the “nerve” to call them out on their bullshit. But hey I’m sure the kid deserved it right?

295 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 6:47:53am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

To hell with Putin’s poxy proxies, how’s your gout?

296 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 6:48:24am

re: #288 lawhawk

NYPD (assuming the moniker - ‘nock your punk ass down):

[Embedded content]

Cop repeatedly sucker punches a 12-year old for resisting arrest while other cops are trying to cuff the kid. It’s the undercover cop who comes in as other uniformed cops are handling the kid.

The video alone should be a firing offense. Period. I’ve got zero tolerance for this kind of crap, and I can’t wait to listen to the PBA claim that this was somehow justified or that the cop was acting according to proper procedures, even though the video shows the absolute opposite. There was no justification for the punches. None.

OMG, what the hell is happening with our society? Or were we just unaware?

297 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 6:48:58am

re: #295 Higgs Boson’s Mate

To hell with Putin’s poxy proxies, how’s your gout?

I second HBM’s concern about the gout. Feel better, man.

298 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 7:00:05am

re: #296 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The proliferation of smartphones and video cam features. People can now catch the cops in the act. The same tech that can help cops catch criminals can also show cops being criminal.

299 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 7:02:16am

re: #298 lawhawk

The proliferation of smartphones and video cam features. People can now catch the cops in the act. The same tech that can help cops catch criminals can also show cops being criminal.

Yeah, i don’t think it’s a stretch at all to suggest that this is something new. I am just glad that we have the technology so it’s harder to turn it into a he said-he said.

300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 19, 2014 7:07:56am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

Have I ever told you how much I hate Illinois Mornings?

Is there any time of day when IIlinois is bearable?

301 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 7:13:02am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is there any time of day when IIlinois is bearable?

When you’re not spending the day in Missouri? /

302 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 19, 2014 7:14:38am

re: #301 lawhawk

When you’re not spending the day in Missouri? /

Morning is about the only time that Indiana is bearable, it all starts going downhill about 11.30…

303 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 7:14:55am

re: #301 lawhawk

When you’re not spending the day in Missouri? /

or Indiana

304 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 7:15:39am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Yeah, i don’t think it’s a stretch at all to suggest that this is something new. I am just glad that we have the technology so it’s harder to turn it into a he said-he said.

Being able to catch cops acting badly in real time is new. Cops throwing their weight around is not. The expression “the Third Degree” as a euphemism for harsh or brutal interrogation by police dates back to the 19th century.

305 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 7:15:42am

re: #303 FemNaziBitch

or Indiana

Missouri?

Edit: decided to up the game to Kansas.

306 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 19, 2014 7:15:50am

re: #298 lawhawk

The proliferation of smartphones and video cam features. People can now catch the cops in the act. The same tech that can help cops catch criminals can also show cops being criminal.

But that is not going to change unless we reform the current justice system. Prosecutors are used to working with the police to obtain indictments/convictions, forcing them to work against the police is tantamount to a conflict of interest.

307 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 7:18:30am

re: #304 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Being able to catch cops acting badly in real time is new. Cops throwing their weight around is not. The expression “the Third Degree” as a euphemism for harsh or brutal interrogation by police dates back to the 19th century.

Yep. Better said than I could.

308 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 7:19:18am

re: #306 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But that is not going to change unless we reform the current justice system. Prosecutors are used to working with the police to obtain indictments/convictions, forcing them to work against the police is tantamount to a conflict of interest.

I like the idea of having an independent force investigating police misconduct. It’s a start at least.

309 Romantic Heretic  Dec 19, 2014 7:21:16am

re: #266 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I found Teh Internets in coffeehouses there. I like The Second Cup chain.

I spent four days in Toronto this summer. I recommend the experience.

There are reasons I’ve spent most of my life here.

My wife always comments on how much green there is here.

310 Dr Lizardo  Dec 19, 2014 7:22:42am

re: #304 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Being able to catch cops acting badly in real time is new. Cops throwing their weight around is not. The expression “the Third Degree” as a euphemism for harsh or brutal interrogation by police dates back to the 19th century.

Just speculating on my part, but I wonder if that has to do with taking the Third Degree in Masonry, whereupon one becomes a Master Mason? Certainly, the Third Degree requires the most intensive effort to succeed - a lot of memorization is involved at that point.

311 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 7:25:17am

Now here’s something you don’t see every day:
CEO gives back bonus, says he doesn’t deserve it

According to Fortune magazine, Rick Holley, CEO of Plum Tree Timber Co. returned 44,445 restricted stock units (Value: approximately $1.85 million) to the company saying “”he does not believe that he should receive such an award unless Plum Creek’s stockholders see an increase in their investment return.”

312 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 7:25:50am

re: #311 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Now here’s something you don’t see every day:
CEO gives back bonus, says he doesn’t deserve it

According to Fortune magazine, Rick Holley, CEO of Plum Tree Timber Co. returned 44,445 restricted stock units (Value: approximately $1.85 million) to the company saying “”he does not believe that he should receive such an award unless Plum Creek’s stockholders see an increase in their investment return.”

That’s admirable. I wish there were more executives like that.

313 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 7:32:10am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

Just speculating on my part, but I wonder if that has to do with taking the Third Degree in Masonry, whereupon one becomes a Master Mason? Certainly, the Third Degree requires the most intensive effort to succeed - a lot of memorization is involved at that point.

The qualities of herbal plants were classified by degree in the late 1500s. The origin of the Third Degree as a euphemism may have come from Freemasonry. It may also have been a pun on the surname of 19th century NY police detective Thomas Byrnes who was famous for his brutal interrogations.

314 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Dec 19, 2014 7:32:11am

re: #309 Romantic Heretic

There are reasons I’ve spent most of my life here.

My wife always comments on how much green there is here.

I’d be willing to move there, just based on those four days. Winter might change my attitude, however.

315 Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2014 7:42:10am

Dumb-As-Hell Hip-Hop-Themed Restaurant Menu Wasn’t The Hottest Idea

“Thug rice,” man. “Thug rice.” They literally dyed some rice black and called it “thug rice.”

That image up there comes from the menu for the “East Coast vs. West Coast: Biggie & Tupac Tribute Dinner” planned for February 2 at Graffiato, an Italian restaurant in D.C. Behold its dumb badness. Lo, gaze upon its clumsy, oafish racism. Tremble ‘neath its basura puns!

“Wu-Tangy dressing.” Christ.

Fail on a magnitude beyond elevenity.

316 FemNaziBitch  Dec 19, 2014 7:54:36am

I’m going back to bed.

Dog decided to do so already.

bbl

317 dholmes32  Dec 19, 2014 7:55:13am

re: #248 freetoken

I suppose I could Page it, but I don’t know what I’d call it.

Maybe….

Creationist beclowning, all the way down.

or maybe…

It's a Short Ride from Louisville to Idaho.

Douglas Wilson is a real piece of work. He wrote a basically pro-slavery pamphlet.

en.wikipedia.org

splcenter.org

Wilson also encouraged one of the female teachers at his school to marry a convicted child abuser named Steven Sitler. The woman is remaining unnamed because I don’t feel comfortable naming her.

thewartburgwatch.com

The guy is A REAL PIECE OF WORK.

Edit to add: here’s a warning notice from 2012 when Sitler was on furlough from the Idaho Dept. of Corrections.

Seriously, PIECE OF WORK!

318 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 7:55:39am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

Do they serve Mothereffin’ Iced Tea?

319 Kaessa  Dec 19, 2014 7:55:50am

Can’t afford to do a year at a time, but I added a monthly subscription. I spend enough time here, I figured I’d better chip in.

320 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 8:07:15am

Seeing some tweets about how China may also be involved in the Sony hack, though there’s no evidence one way or the other. I wouldn’t be surprised if China was also involved in it. The question is what does China have to gain from hacking Sony. Seems like they’d be risking a bunch for such a high profile hack; they’d benefit much more from hacking and stealing data to be used surreptitiously. That’d give them the ability to produce products and services before Sony could release them, and give them an edge on reverse engineering products and services.

It just doesn’t seem like something China would do in the way they did.

North Korea on the other hand is more likely to take an approach like this. Brute force and document dumps with threats is the kind of bombast asssociated with the Hermit Kingdom.

321 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 8:08:40am

re: #288 lawhawk

NYPD (assuming the moniker - ‘nock your punk ass down):

Cop repeatedly sucker punches a 12-year old for resisting arrest while other cops are trying to cuff the kid. It’s the undercover cop who comes in as other uniformed cops are handling the kid.

The video alone should be a firing offense. Period. I’ve got zero tolerance for this kind of crap, and I can’t wait to listen to the PBA claim that this was somehow justified or that the cop was acting according to proper procedures, even though the video shows the absolute opposite. There was no justification for the punches. None.

What you’ll see is increased attempts to get laws passed outlawing the filming or photographing of police while they are on-duty. That film broke the plainclothes officer’s cover!
:p
///

322 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 8:14:12am

re: #311 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Now here’s something you don’t see every day:
CEO gives back bonus, says he doesn’t deserve it

According to Fortune magazine, Rick Holley, CEO of Plum Tree Timber Co. returned 44,445 restricted stock units (Value: approximately $1.85 million) to the company saying “”he does not believe that he should receive such an award unless Plum Creek’s stockholders see an increase in their investment return.”

Admirable that he realizes that he has enough to get by without the additional bonus. Though I doubt foregoing the additional money is going to cause him to miss a mortgage payment or be unable to pay his utility bills and feed his family.

I guess I would view it more admirably if he’d simply taken the bonus and pushed it into a charity working towards improving education, a small college’s endowment, or even some sort of fund that “secret santa-ed” utility bills for the poor. Just dumping the money back into the company’s capitalization doesn’t necessarily do society as a whole any good.

323 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 8:16:15am

So Instagram slaughtered off a lot of spambots and people are whining about how now their number of followers is a lot lower?

bbc.com

324 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 8:18:01am

re: #323 b.d.

Now, if Twitter did that, imagine what the hue and cry would be. A million fake bots crying out in derp, only to be silenced.

325 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 8:21:39am

re: #321 Feline Fearless Leader

What you’ll see is increased attempts to get laws passed outlawing the filming or photographing of police while they are on-duty. That film broke the plainclothes officer’s cover!
:p
///

Hell, why not just allow the cops to wear hoods or ski masks? There’s precedent for the former going back to the Inquisition and it would dovetail nicely with their demonstrated regard for people of color.

326 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 8:25:01am

re: #324 lawhawk

Now, if Twitter did that, imagine what the hue and cry would be. A million fake bots crying out in derp, only to be silenced.

They’ll never do it, because if they act shut down all the bots running rampant, their user numbers would plummet, with their stock price not far behind.

327 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 19, 2014 8:26:35am

re:
#323

Instagram Rapture.

Well played.

328 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 8:34:35am

re: #326 Targetpractice

They’ll never do it, because if they act shut down all the bots running rampant, their user numbers would plummet, with their stock price not far behind.

I think that humans should abandon Twitter and leave it to the bots, It’ll do just fine without us.

329 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 8:38:35am

re: #328 b.d.

I think that humans should abandon Twitter and leave it to the bots, It’ll do just fine without us.

Your comment makes me wonder if CCJ is a bot programmed by a genius to look like a complete fool.

330 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 8:41:51am

Marco Rubio against Rand Paul. This should be the most pathetic spectacle imaginable.

331 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 8:43:09am

re: #330 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Marco Rubio against Rand Paul. This should be the most pathetic spectacle imaginable.

Wait so Rand actually didn’t come off as a complete know-nothing on Cuba? Well I guess that doesn’t surprise me at all. I hate it when Mommy and Daddy wingnut fight though.

332 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 8:43:14am

re: #330 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Marco Rubio against Rand Paul. This should be the most pathetic spectacle imaginable.

The political equivalent of midget wrestling.

333 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 19, 2014 8:43:39am

re:
#330

Marco Rubio against Rand Paul. This should be the most pathetic spectacle imaginable.

Ooooh, love me some hot wingnut-on-wingnut on action.

334 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 8:44:03am

Wow though looked at Paul’s statements. Rand may actually have a clue.

335 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 8:44:22am

re: #325 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hell, why not just allow the cops to wear hoods or ski masks? There’s precedent for the former going back to the Inquisition and it would dovetail nicely with their demonstrated regard for people of color.

There are lots of countries where their police do wear masks/hoods. Generally more paramilitary forces, or places where there is sufficiently organized underworld that you can make a legitimate claim for wanting their identities hidden as compared to the US.

336 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 8:44:40am

re: #329 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Your comment makes me wonder if CCJ is a bot programmed by a genius to look like a complete fool.

If CCJ didn’t exist in real life Twitter would have to invent him.

Writing the code for the Derpbot2000 would be pretty fun though since it would run off of easily predictable “logic”.

337 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 8:45:27am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Wow though looked at Paul’s statements. Rand may actually have a clue.

Stopped clock moment. We’ll see if it holds up when he actually goes to Congress looking to do more than just get the embassy back up to speed with an ambassador at the post.

338 EmmaAnne  Dec 19, 2014 8:45:49am

re: #296 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

OMG, what the hell is happening with our society? Or were we just unaware?

There have always been pockets of it, and African Americans have always born the brunt of it everywhere. But I do think it has gotten worse since 9-11. We decided as a country that no amount of violence was too much to keep us “safe” even violence that makes things worse or is against the wrong people. This most definitely stretched to cops.

339 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 8:46:59am

re: #336 b.d.

If CCJ didn’t exist in real life Twitter would have to invent him.

Writing the code for the Derpbot2000 would be pretty fun though since it would run off of easily predictable “logic”.

You’d run out of IF GOTOs.

340 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 8:47:19am

re: #337 Targetpractice

Stopped clock moment. We’ll see if it holds up when he actually goes to Congress looking to do more than just get the embassy back up to speed with an ambassador at the post.

You’re right. His party is after all threatening to block any ambassador appointed.

341 Mike Lamb  Dec 19, 2014 8:49:04am

re: #286 lawhawk

The IRS is warning that refunds will be delayed due to the latest batch of cuts to the IRS budget. It means reduced audits of businesses, and a reduction of revenue from tax revenues that would otherwise be collected through the audit process.

This is what the GOP wrought with their incessant plans to bleed the IRS dry and tax cuts that benefit a select few.

The GOP is not interested in governance and limited government. Those buzzwords are a cover for disassembling the safety net and government programs that most people in this country take for granted. They turn the IRS into a bogeyman for all that is wrong with government, ignoring that tax revenues are critical to funding government and the constitutional requirements of Congress - to protect and defend the nation, to assure health and welfare of the people, etc.

The GOP talks about how tax cuts for the wealthy will bolster the economy, even though 30 years of trickle down have shown that to be a lie - the very voodoo economics that GHWB warned about. It’s a mirage, but one that still gets lots of people to buy into the dream. It’s a mirage that the GOP cultivates and uses to gain tax cuts for a select few and pushes government at all levels into making budget busting decisions.

That’s not to say that Democrats haven’t tried their hand at tax cuts as well, but when you look at who benefits, the Democrats have generally provided a more progressive set of cuts that isn’t nearly as budget-busting as Republican plans and the burden of the tax revenues is on those who can most afford it.

Which is also why the IRS resorts to shorthand to try to fulfill their legal obligations; which in turn leads to GOP wailing and gnashing of teeth re: bullshit of being targeted (or some other such crap); which in turn leads to further budget cuts…

Leaving the specific context of the IRS aside, this highlights the broader pattern for the GOP:

1. Complain gov’t can’t do anything right
2. Use no. 1 as a basis for reducing revenues and the efficacy of gov’t programs.
3. Gov’t, as expected, can’t perform well when understaffed/underfunded.
4. See nos. 1-3.

Self fulfilling prophecy that disproportionately impacts lower and middle socioeconomic classes.

342 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2014 8:52:13am

re: #325 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hell, why not just allow the cops to wear hoods or ski masks? There’s precedent for the former going back to the Inquisition and it would dovetail nicely with their demonstrated regard for people of color.

Police in Oakland already wear masks:

343 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 8:56:34am

re: #339 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You’d run out of IF GOTOs.

And you need to put the CASE statements in the right order so that Obama derp triggers before Muslim derp as recent events have shown.
//

344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2014 9:05:13am
345 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2014 9:07:08am

re: #330 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Marco Rubio against Rand Paul. This should be the most pathetic spectacle imaginable.

346 Slap  Dec 19, 2014 9:08:41am

Good morning, all.

I’ve mentioned that I’m a bit of an aficionado of holiday tuneage. Every year, I try and find gems that stand apart from the endless retakes of all of the well-worn tunes.

This year, I found Tracy Thorn’s “Tinsel and Lights”. She’s the singer for Everything but the Girl, and this record is just lovely. A wonderful, rich voice, and only one “traditional” holiday song. The rest are tunes about the holiday, the emotions, the moods of the season. The title track:

Tracey Thorn - Tinsel and Lights

HIGHLY recommended, especially if you live in very wintry surroundings.

Merappy ChrisKwanzukkah to all….!

347 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 9:11:18am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That ought to crank up the Ginger Avenger to 11. How much will he offer now for “definitive proof” that the NorKs were responsible?

348 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 9:14:25am

re: #347 Targetpractice

That ought to crank up the Ginger Avenger to 11. How much will he offer now for “definitive proof” that the NorKs were responsible?

He said “irrefutable” if I recall. From that I presume his criteria for paying out are simply impossible to meet. And if there was a list of criteria I’m sure the goal posts would move once someone even came close to meeting them.

349 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 9:19:03am

re: #348 Feline Fearless Leader

He said “irrefutable” if I recall. From that I presume his criteria for paying out are simply impossible to meet. And if there was a list of criteria I’m sure the goal posts would move once someone even came close to meeting them.

Yep, you could bring a real, live breathing Sasquatch in front of Chuck, have it poop on his floor and he still would say that that wasn’t “irrefutable” proof that they exist.

350 unproven innocence  Dec 19, 2014 9:23:55am

re: #348 Feline Fearless Leader

He said “irrefutable” if I recall. From that I presume his criteria for paying out are simply impossible to meet. And if there was a list of criteria I’m sure the goal posts would move once someone even came close to meeting them.

As I see it, nothing is truly irrefutable so long as we have free speech. CCJ is counting on that, so his “reward” offer is utterly meaningless.

351 calochortus  Dec 19, 2014 9:27:12am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

Dumb-As-Hell Hip-Hop-Themed Restaurant Menu Wasn’t The Hottest Idea

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Fail on a magnitude beyond elevenity.

Didn’t spell-check it either “cuddle-fish ink?” It sounds adorable. Much more so than a cuttle fish. Then there’s “caulifloer” in there too.

352 Jay C  Dec 19, 2014 9:27:56am

re: #329 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Your comment makes me wonder if CCJ is a bot programmed by a genius to look like a complete fool.

Myself, I’ve always thought CCJ was a complete fool programmed by a genius to look like a bot: but your formulation fits just as well….

353 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 19, 2014 9:33:06am

re: #351 calochortus

Didn’t spell-check it either “cuddle-fish ink?” It sounds adorable. Much more so than a cuttle fish. Then there’s “caulifloer” in there too.

Is “call E Flower” what you do when you can’t get a hold of Saul?
// ;P

354 makeitstop  Dec 19, 2014 9:35:39am

re: #332 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The political intellectual equivalent of midget wrestling.

Tweaked that a bit.

356 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 19, 2014 9:43:49am

re: #71 De Kolta Chair

Midterm voters had no idea of the awesome power of Nick Lowe and Rockpile. Stoopids.

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“I knew the bride when she used to Rock & Roll.”

357 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 9:46:06am

re: #355 Varek Raith

George Clooney: “We Cannot Be Told We Can’t See Something by Kim Jong-un, of All F*cking People”

Good for Clooney and shame on all of the cowards.

I am sure that Wingnutville is praising Clooney for his stance, no?

358 makeitstop  Dec 19, 2014 9:46:45am

re: #356 BeenHereAwhile

“I knew the bride when she used to Rock & Roll.”

I had the rare pleasure of seeing Rockpile a couple of times during their heyday - one time was at Belmont Park on Long Island, where I got to bet on the ponies with Dave Edmunds, and Nick Lowe mercilessly hit on my girlfriend. Great guys, and their manager at the time (Jake Riviera) was equal parts rock manager and con man. Good times.

360 Belafon  Dec 19, 2014 9:52:36am

Some theater was going to show “Team America” in place of “The Interview” but Sony owns that one as well and told the theater they couldn’t do it.

361 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 9:53:52am

re: #360 Belafon

Some theater was going to show “Team America” in place of “The Interview” but Sony owns that one as well and told the theater they couldn’t do it.

Somewhat ironic, since the South Park dudebros aren’t known for caving.

362 BeachDem  Dec 19, 2014 9:55:39am

re: #337 Targetpractice

Stopped clock moment. We’ll see if it holds up when he actually goes to Congress looking to do more than just get the embassy back up to speed with an ambassador at the post.

Also, please apply the five-minute rule. Thank you.

To recap: the Five Minute Rule states that any member of the Paul family will make sense on any political issue for exactly five minutes. Precisely at the 5:00:01 mark, however, he will say something so far off the rails that you will find yourself looking at him as though he has sprouted a reptilian head out of his sternum.

esquire.com

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2014 9:55:42am
364 makeitstop  Dec 19, 2014 9:56:18am

re: #360 Belafon

Some theater was going to show “Team America” in place of “The Interview” but Sony owns that one as well and told the theater they couldn’t do it.

Actually, Paramount owns ‘Team America’ and smacked down the idea.

Cowards.

365 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 9:59:20am

re: #364 makeitstop

Actually, Paramount owns ‘Team America’ and smacked down the idea.

Cowards.

Can they show The Bridges at Toko-Ri instead?

366 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2014 10:01:24am

Rand Paul is totally trolling Rubio on twitter right now:

twitter.com

367 Belafon  Dec 19, 2014 10:02:30am

Thanks for the correction. That actually makes it worse. I could possibly understand Sony doing it - maybe the hackers have Sony’s tax records or pictures of the CEOs preference for small childiren - though I don’t agree with it, but an entirely different studio?

368 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:04:32am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul is totally trolling Rubio on twitter right now:

twitter.com

This is going to be fun. I can’t believe it but Rand Paul is actually making some logical sense- pointing out that the majority of Cuban-Americans support this new move.

369 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:04:41am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul is totally trolling Rubio on twitter right now:

twitter.com

hahahaha! I am sure there is something in the Senate rules about member comity but I don’t think it has been updated since Al Gore invented teh internets.

370 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:06:16am

This is going to be a fun GOP primary cycle to watch.

371 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 10:06:32am

It’s not weird. It’s one of the side effects of global warming and climate change. Alaska is seeing above normal temps and shift in wind patterns, reducing snowfall. Other places are seeing higher snowfall because warmer temps are allowing the prevailing winds to kick up more moisture.

Ocean temps are rising. Air temps rising. Globally. Both are happening globally even though there are some spots, including in the US proper that are colder that usual. Heck, some of the temps are actually normal, which feels a whole lot colder than normal because the new normal is so much warmer.

This year is on track to being the warmest in history. It surpasses a bunch of years over the past 15 years, which rank among the warmest on record.

But Drudge and others will stick to the climate change/global warming isn’t real, or that man has nothing to do with it.

372 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 10:06:39am

re: #369 b.d.

hahahaha! I am sure there is something in the Senate rules about member comity but I don’t think it has been updated since Al Gore invented teh internets.

That’s not a rule, just an unspoken commitment. And totally not worth the paper it’s written on. cf Tom Coburn, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, etc. etc. ad infinitum.

373 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:07:22am

And I thought the 2012 GOP bunch was a clown car for the ages. 2016 is going to be the clown limo at this rate.

374 Dr Lizardo  Dec 19, 2014 10:08:25am

re: #371 lawhawk

We’ve had a mild winter here in the Czech Republic thus far; today it was about 50 degrees F, and for mid-to-late December, that’s quite unusual. Last year was like this as well. For the entire meteorological winter, we only had about five or six days of snow, and overall, it was warmer than normal.

375 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:09:51am

giggle, giggle, snort

376 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:12:24am

re: #375 b.d.

giggle, giggle, snort

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Rah rah go team Right Wing.

377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 19, 2014 10:13:43am

re:
#375

If WE attack each other WE lose and THE LEFT Wins!!!! Straight out of Alinsky playbook!!!!111

378 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:13:56am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Rah rah go team Right Wing.

HE’S SERIOUS!!!

379 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 10:14:17am

re: #375 b.d.

Snort worthy considering that Paul isn’t a conservative. He’s a libertarian. And a nut who’s managed to be right on this particular issue.

380 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:15:08am

re: #377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#375

If WE attack each other WE lose and THE LEFT Wins!!!! Straight out of Alinsky playbook!!!!111

REMEMBER ST. RONNIE’S 11th COMMANDMENT!

381 Eventual Carrion  Dec 19, 2014 10:17:17am

re: #375 b.d.

giggle, giggle, snort

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PURITY DAMNIT!

382 makeitstop  Dec 19, 2014 10:19:19am

re: #367 Belafon

Thanks for the correction. That actually makes it worse. I could possibly understand Sony doing it - maybe the hackers have Sony’s tax records or pictures of the CEOs preference for small childiren - though I don’t agree with it, but an entirely different studio?

Everybody’s scared to death of potential liability if a theater gets attacked.

Erring on the side of caution sure takes the fun out of life, though.

383 allegro  Dec 19, 2014 10:19:26am

Wouldn’t it be lovely if the right discussed the merits of a topic with fact-based arguments to support their positions/opinions rather than see any disagreement as an attack?

Yeah. I know.

384 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:22:21am

Rubio is going to be this cycle’s T-Paw and be the 1st one out.

385 allegro  Dec 19, 2014 10:24:57am

Hollywood has been caving to the religious right for decades. They may as well cave to foreign threats as well.

386 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 10:27:06am

re: #385 allegro

Hollywood has been caving to the religious right for decades. They may as well cave to foreign threats as well.

Good for assholes the world ‘round to know that they can censor anything of which they disapprove with a threatening email.

387 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:27:41am

re: #384 b.d.

Rubio is going to be this cycle’s T-Paw and be the 1st one out.

I think so. Marco’s lost a lot of his luster with the base. Hell if I were him, I’d be worried about re-election. You know the Dems are going to try to win that seat and they know that election years are golden opps for the taking in states like FL.

388 #FergusonFireside  Dec 19, 2014 10:28:20am
389 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:29:02am

I think Paul’s eventually going to fade out too. I think it will come down to an establishment type and a so-con above all else type. Maybe I am givign the social conservatives too much credit but after seeing Santorum give Mitt a run for his money, I can definitely see him or another type like him giving an establishment type a race.

390 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 10:29:57am

re: #388 #FergusonFireside

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In other words, he purposefully spiked his own grand jury. But I’m guessing that it doesn’t count as misconduct because as prosecutor he has effective control over the operation of the grand jury and can conduct it however he likes.

391 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:30:11am

re: #388 #FergusonFireside

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McCulloch clearly didn’t care about getting justice for Brown’s family. He wanted Wilson to walk from the start. Motherfucker should have recused himself since he’s obviously got a hard-on for the police and thinks they can do no wrong.

392 allegro  Dec 19, 2014 10:30:53am

re: #388 #FergusonFireside

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Isn’t that an offense that should result in disbarment? Lawhawk?

393 Kragar  Dec 19, 2014 10:32:53am

Well, so much for CCJ’s “sources”

394 Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2014 10:33:27am

re: #393 Kragar

Well, so much for CCJ’s “sources”

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Obviously it’s part of a grand cover-up now. Sony managed to rope the Feds into covering their asses.

395 Kragar  Dec 19, 2014 10:35:26am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Obviously it’s part of a grand cover-up now. Sony managed to rope the Feds into covering their asses.

Oh yeah, his band of brain dead miscreants are already croaking “FALSE FLAG!”

396 BeenHereAwhile  Dec 19, 2014 10:38:07am

re: #207 teleskiguy

Well, Nebraska and Oklahoma’s lawyers don’t like cannabis at all.

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I would think the “states rights folk” would be all in favor of legalization of marijuana.

Wouldn’t state by state legalization be a successful example of “nullification” of federal laws and regulations?

397 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:38:32am

The VP pick will be someone that the base will love and they will proclaim that the left is “petrified” of them when the reality will be the majorty of the American people sighing “There they go with another Palin/Ryan type pick”

398 b.d.  Dec 19, 2014 10:39:37am

re: #393 Kragar

Well, so much for CCJ’s “sources”

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IT’S A COVER UP BECAUSE GIVING CREDIT TO NORTH KOREA FOR DOING THIS WHEN THEY DIDN’T MAKES PERFECT SENSE BECAUSE……..

399 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 19, 2014 10:39:50am

re: #390 Targetpractice

In other words, he purposefully spiked his own grand jury. But I’m guessing that it doesn’t count as misconduct because as prosecutor he has effective control over the operation of the grand jury and can conduct it however he likes.

OK, help me out because IANAL, but isn’t this some kind of … crime?

400 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 10:44:45am

re: #396 BeenHereAwhile

I would think the “states rights folk” would be all in favor of legalization of marijuana.

Wouldn’t state by state legalization be a successful example of “nullification” of federal laws and regulations?

I’d think that they’d jump all over it. Although legalizing cannabis in their own states would obviate their complaints and bring in some revenue, they would rather cling to their antiquated Reefer Madness mentality.

401 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 19, 2014 10:46:22am

re:
#396

I would think the “states rights folk” would be all in favor of legalization of marijuana.

Conservatives are for more states rights except when they’re for less.

402 Kragar  Dec 19, 2014 10:48:23am

re: #398 b.d.

IT’S A COVER UP BECAUSE GIVING CREDIT TO NORTH KOREA FOR DOING THIS WHEN THEY DIDN’T MAKES PERFECT SENSE BECAUSE……..

Apparently its going to be used as an excuse to start a war, because their nuke program and 50+ years of history don’t exist.

403 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 19, 2014 10:48:41am

Why is Obummer and his family always going on Vacation????

404 HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2014 10:55:17am

re: #401 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#396

Conservatives are for more states rights except when they’re for less.

Right. I remember the Bush DoJ having a big problem with Oregon’s physician aided suicide program and it was the same Bush administration that pushed for a federal ban on same sex marriage in the wake of Massachusetts legalizing SSM back in 2004. Conservatives love to talk about how they’re for limited government, individual rights, and smaller government but when it comes to their idea of morality, it’s all out the window.

405 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 19, 2014 10:55:52am

re: #401 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#396

Conservatives are for more states rights except when they’re for less.

Yes, they bray endlessly about government overreach while at the same time calling for Constitutional amendments to address everything from choice, to SSM, to death with dignity.

406 Romantic Heretic  Dec 19, 2014 10:55:53am

re: #314 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I’d be willing to move there, just based on those four days. Winter might change my attitude, however.

Yeah, winter can be a bitch. The last few years have been very mild though.

407 lawhawk  Dec 19, 2014 10:57:16am

re: #392 allegro

It should, but probably wont. I frankly think that McCullough engaged in obstruction of justice, not to mention subornation of perjury by allowing this witness to testify under oath (that’s the federal law, MO has general law on perjury).

The whole handling of this case was a colossal screwup, with an intent to thwart the prosecution of a cop who shot dead an unarmed black man.

408 Romantic Heretic  Dec 19, 2014 11:01:32am

re: #349 b.d.

Yep, you could bring a real, live breathing Sasquatch in front of Chuck, have it poop on his floor and he still would say that that wasn’t “irrefutable” proof that they exist.

Considering how many hallucinatory creatures pop in his brain every day that’s not a surprise.

409 Romantic Heretic  Dec 19, 2014 11:07:20am

re: #378 b.d.

HE’S SERIOUS!!!

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Thank God I’ll never be treated by that doctor. I suspect he’s not above letting the patient, um, suffer fatal complications if he finds said patient is a ‘lefty’.

410 Dark_Falcon  Dec 19, 2014 11:10:50am

re: #295 Higgs Boson’s Mate

To hell with Putin’s poxy proxies, how’s your gout?

Right now its less swelling, but more hurting.

411 Jenner7  Dec 19, 2014 11:21:02am

re: #388 #FergusonFireside

My God. They are so blatant and in your face that they fixed this GJ. Because they know they will get away with it. Because the leaders in this country don’t care. I hope I’m wrong on that one.


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