Smear Merchant Chuck C. Johnson Uses Brooklyn Cop Killings to Spread Anti-Muslim Hatred

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Chuck C. Johnson posing with his best friend

On news of the shooting of two police officers in Brooklyn, right wing smear merchant Chuck C. Johnson immediately launched a full-on hate campaign, culminating in this frenzied piece of sheer bigotry (another “BREAKING EXCLUSIVE,” of course — they all are): BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: NYPD Cop Killer Worked for Alleged Muslim Terror Front Group - GotNews.

Johnson is trying to take the act of a sociopathic career criminal and turn it into an opportunity to incite hatred against Muslims, and he’s not above using flat-out lies to do it. He quotes his usual far right “source” for these police-related stories:

“His killing of his ex-girlfriend is entirely consistent with an honor killing,” says John Cardillo, a former NYPD police officer who investigated terror cells in New York.

This was posted last night, and I saw several people on Twitter point out to Chuck that it’s simply wrong, but… no correction, of course.

Ismaaiyl Brinsley’s ex-girlfriend was:

  • Not killed; she was seriously wounded but is expected to recover.
  • Absolutely not the victim of an "honor killing."

In fact, Brinsley went to her apartment intending to kill himself, but she talked him out of it — and he repaid her kindness by shooting her.

This was no “honor killing,” not even an attempted “honor killing” — and it had nothing to do with Brinsley’s Muslim faith. It was a spree killing, ending in a suicide.

A horrible crime, made worse by grotesque bottom feeders like Chuck C. Johnson who use it to spread hatred and divisiveness.

UPDATE at 12/23/14 12:50:26 pm by Charles Johnson

And now this despicable low-life is smearing the killer’s mother: BREAKING: NYPD Cop Killer’s Jamaican Mom Praises Polygamy, Hates Capitalism - GotNews.

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338 comments
1 jaunte  Dec 23, 2014 10:38:05am

“…John is a frequent guest on The Glenn Beck Program on The Blaze TV…”
…..

2 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 10:38:38am

Well speaking of bottom feeders, Pamela is also shrieking that this is an act of “jihad”

I’m not embedding any of her shrieking Tweets (Twieks) here, you’ll just have to take my word for it.

3 jaunte  Dec 23, 2014 10:45:03am

Cardillo also blamed Eric Garner’s death on his obesity and asthma, not Pantaleo’s choke hold, which he claims wasn’t really a choke hold because no throat damage was noted in the autopsy.

4 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 10:45:14am

Peas in a pod. Chuckles uses bogus and factually incorrect claims to smear while Jim Hoft links approvingly to people who expropriate the dying words of Eric Garner to claim that taxes are too damned high.

Idiocracy was a precog documentary. /but not by much.

5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 23, 2014 10:45:16am

It fits the narrative, it will be spread.

6 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 10:47:59am

So all crazy claims that Breitbart and WND won’t publish get funneled to Chuck C?

7 unproven innocence  Dec 23, 2014 10:49:20am

…but she talked him out of it…
First I’ve learned of that. Obviously, she was not entirely successful.

8 stpaulbear  Dec 23, 2014 10:51:25am

re: #6 b.d.

So all crazy claims that Breitbart and WND won’t publish get funneled to Chuck C?

They probably send him an email saying ‘Hey Chuck, you should look into this’, wait 10 minutes, then laugh uproariously when CCJ’s ‘story’ appears.

9 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 10:55:52am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

Well speaking of bottom feeders, Pamela is also shrieking that this is an act of “jihad”

I’m not embedding any of her shrieking Tweets (Twieks) here, you’ll just have to take my word for it.

Yeah, that’s not exactly a stretch. Let me know when a Muslim does something she doesn’t link to “jihad”.

10 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:01:54am

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, that’s not exactly a stretch. Let me know when a Muslim does something she doesn’t link to “jihad”.

Muslims give cute little kittens to orphans.

PAMELA: SHARIA!!!11!! JIHAD!!!1!!!

11 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:02:33am

The thing is, that no matter how many quiverfulls of white children are created, brown people will still outnumber them in 50 (or so) years in the US.

There will not be a South Africa type apartheid in this country.

The idea that “our way of life” will somehow diminish because of this is absurd.

Western Values and Democracy are not tied to one religion or skin color.

They are, in fact, not entirely Western or Christian.

One of myDear Ole’ Dad’s favorite books, which I have not been able to finish. He claimed it proved the above premise.

12 Iwouldprefernotto  Dec 23, 2014 11:03:11am

Today is my Birthday, so I have no time for hate.

If one of you wants to deflate the tires of CCJ be my guest, otherwise, peace and love.

13 jaunte  Dec 23, 2014 11:03:17am

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Taqqitties.

14 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 11:03:48am
15 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 11:04:06am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

Today is my Birthday, so I have no time for hate.

If one of you wants to deflate the tires of CCJ be my guest, otherwise, peace and love.

Happy birthday!

16 Dr Lizardo  Dec 23, 2014 11:05:11am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

Happy Birthday.

17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 11:05:52am

re:
#1

“…John is a frequent guest on The Glenn Beck Program on The Blaze TV…”

Oh, he’ll be perfect for Chuck Todd and MTP then. //

18 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2014 11:07:44am

I think I’ll get Chuck a muzzle for Christmas.

19 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 11:08:58am
Brinsley’s ex-girlfriend was: 1) not killed; in fact she’s expected to recover,

“Oh well, ‘killed’, ‘expected to recover’, whatever, man. I’m too busy winning journalism awards all over the country on behalf of The People to bother with this kind of minutiae.”

20 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 11:11:44am

Wow, if you look at the Goatnews home page, Chuck is churning out one sloppily written hit piece after another, mostly on black people.

Incredibly creepy what this guy is doing.

21 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 11:11:53am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

Today is my Birthday, so I have no time for hate.

If one of you wants to deflate the tires of CCJ be my guest, otherwise, peace and love.

Have a wonderful day!

22 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 11:12:05am

I return.

Any Lizards who are ever even remotely thinking about the Bracebridge Dinner should absolutely have it on their bucket lists. It was amazing. Fantastic food, an amazing production (a simultaneous 7 course meal for 350), the music fabulous, some well-played comedy …I want to do it again at least once.

23 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 11:12:22am

re: #17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#1

Oh, he’ll be perfect for Chuck Todd and MTP then. //

A lot of people don’t seem to understand that being featured on wingnut media is a pretty good indicator that they are not serious people. They seem to think that being involved with fantasy-based propaganda outlets is some kind of honor.

24 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 11:12:32am
25 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 11:15:52am

She tried to do the right thing, and was nearly killed for it. Now watch the same right wingers attack Shaneka Thompson, an Air Force Reservist, for not letting him kill himself because that would have prevented him from killing the 2 NYPD cops. He ended up committing suicide after killing the cops anyways.

It’s a truly tragic and horrific situation for Thompson; Brinsley had mental health issues that weren’t addressed, and a lengthy criminal record predating those of any protests relating to Ferguson or Eric Garner. He had an anti-cop streak long before any of this, along with firearms violations. Thompson tried to stop him from hurting himself and others, and in the end he did both - with horrific consequences.

He still managed to get a firearm, and how he managed to do so, is an open question that isn’t adequately addressed. We know that the gun was sold from a pawn shop, but not the intermediate steps between who it was sold to and how it ended up in Brinsley’s possession.

26 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 11:17:31am
27 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Dec 23, 2014 11:19:11am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

I think I’ll get Chuck a muzzle for Christmas.

Pooper-scooper.

28 Iwouldprefernotto  Dec 23, 2014 11:21:20am

re: #27 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Pooper-scooper.

CCJ is a pooper scooper.

29 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 11:23:02am
30 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 11:23:28am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Considering that he’s got to be hosted by a company (GoDaddy), it’s quite likely he’s in violation of multiple provisions of the TOS for stealing photos and watermarking them as his own (violating IP of others), promoting illegal acts (doxxing, stalking, etc.), violates privacy of others (see also stalking, doxxing, etc.), etc.

There’s probably enough there to shut him down. But he’d then complain that his free speech rights were being denied (again showing his complete lack of understanding of a business contract he entered into as part of setting up Goatnews).

31 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:25:44am

Wait, Obama has taken over the UK too?

32 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:26:41am

HAPPY HOLIDAY WISHES FOR ALL!

33 jaunte  Dec 23, 2014 11:28:25am

“Hey, a few felonies and everybody gets distracted.”

34 Shiplord Kirel  Dec 23, 2014 11:29:26am

Possibly relevant:
Argentina: Court grants orangutan basic rights

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (December 22, 2014) — An orangutan that has lived 20 years at the Buenos Aires zoo is entitled to some legal rights enjoyed by humans, an Argentine court has ruled, a decision the ape’s attorney called unprecedented and a ticket to greater freedom.

The ruling comes a month after a local animal rights group filed a habeas corpus writ in favor of Sandra, who was born in Germany but has lived in captivity in Buenos Aires most of her life.

“Following a dynamic … judicial interpretation, it is necessary to recognize that the animal is subject to rights, and should be protected,” said the Dec. 18 ruling, published Monday by the official judicial news agency.

This is “do not linked” because the source is an RWNJ/superstition site.

35 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:30:32am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Possibly relevant:
Argentina: Court grants orangutan basic rights

This is “do not linked” because the source is an RWNJ/superstition site.

Here’s the story at BBC

36 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 11:31:40am

Continuing this year’s effort to celebrate holidays without doing it on the appropriate day, we had Christmas Eve dinner last night. That was when all the people who traditionally come were available. It was lovely, even if I did end up spending the entire day preparing for it.

I now have no idea what day it might be today because Christmas Eve was last night and Christmas itself will be on New Year’s Day. It’s all about having the people who are dearest to us together. ;)

37 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 11:31:47am

re:
#33

Grimm: “I know that some are gonna use this to demonize me. They’re gonna use this for political purposes.”

“Even though in contrast I have never demonized anyone or politicized anything ever.”

38 unproven innocence  Dec 23, 2014 11:32:00am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Possibly relevant:
Argentina: Court grants orangutan basic rights

This is “do not linked” because the source is an RWNJ/superstition site.

Apparently, Skynet has recognized the importance of precident.

39 dog philosopher  Dec 23, 2014 11:34:22am

smear merchant

everybody needs a little cream cheese oncet in a while…

40 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:37:13am
Real gross domestic product — the value of the production of goods and services in the United States, adjusted for price changes — increased at an annual rate of 5.0 percent in the third quarter of 2014, according to the “third” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP increased 4.6 percent.

from my inbox

41 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 11:39:02am
This was no “honor killing,” not even an attempted “honor killing” — and it had nothing to do with Brinsley’s Muslim faith. It was a spree killing, ending in a suicide.

But don’t you see. Brinsley once worked for the ISNA, and back in the 80’s and 90’s there was a lobbyist who worked for the ISNA who was later linked to some shady dealings with Libya so…SHARIA!!!

42 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:39:26am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

Today is my Birthday, so I have no time for hate.

If one of you wants to deflate the tires of CCJ be my guest, otherwise, peace and love.

HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!

43 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 11:39:58am

Now he’s digging into the killer’s mother’s past.

Because she doesn’t have enough misery in her life yet. She needs some of Chuck’s attention.

44 The War TARDIS  Dec 23, 2014 11:40:08am

Things have gone weird for me in the last week.

After Cuba, my grandparents brought up that the lady in Iran still has a master’s. Told me to look into a visa based on employment.

So, me and her are back on. Provided Republicans don’t ban Muslims from coming in the country.

45 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:41:27am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s the story at BBC

Great, now if the US could do the same for women … .

46 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:42:25am

re: #39 dog philosopher

smear merchant

everybody needs a little cream cheese oncet in a while…

Chocolate cake made with cream cheese.

SINFUL!!!

47 sagehen  Dec 23, 2014 11:42:53am

re: #44 The War TARDIS

I think I missed the early part of this story.

Is she a “friend of a friend” fix-up, or through an on-line service leading to e-mail/texting/skype and now you sort of know each other?

48 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:43:39am

re: #46 FemNaziBitch

Chocolate cake made with cream cheese.

SINFUL!!!

Key Lime Pie made with cream cheese…

49 Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2014 11:44:16am

re: #33 jaunte

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“Hey, a few felonies and everybody gets distracted.”

“I know I only promised back in October that I’d resign if found guilty, but I didn’t think anybody would actually hold me to it!”

/

50 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:45:03am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

Key Lime Pie made with cream cheese…

You can do that?

51 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:45:36am
52 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:46:05am

re: #50 FemNaziBitch

You can do that?

That’s how I make Key Lime Pie.

53 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:46:57am

Merry Christmas Your work doesn’t count the same as others . .

On Monday, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon struck down a rule change issued by the Department of Labor that would have extended minimum wage and overtime pay protections to home care workers come January.

In 1974, the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) — the law requires American employers to pay their workers at least the minimum wage and extra pay for overtime hours — was expanded to cover domestic workers. Yet a carve-out was included for those who provide “care and fellowship” to the elderly and disabled in their homes. That exemption became so broadly interpreted as to deny basic labor rights from those who feed, clothe, and bathe clients, as well as give them medical care. In 2007, under that law, the Supreme Court ruled that a woman named Evelyn Coke’s employer, who had her work long hours giving care, did nothing illegal by failing to give her overtime pay.

54 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 11:47:18am

re:
#43

Go to Goatnews to find out the secret about the killer’s Michelle Obama-loving mother who loves Michelle Obama! Please donate to keep this important awardwinning journalism on the air, er, on the webs, or something

55 The War TARDIS  Dec 23, 2014 11:49:03am

re: #47 sagehen

Though singlemuslim.com. We have talked for 6 months. She had broken it off last month when she couldn’t get the Student Visa, as she didn’t want to burden me.

After grandparents said that, I had decided that this attitude is why she could come here.

Funny thing is, those are my dad’s parents, and they tend to be more conservative, though they voted Democratin for president since Clinton. My somewhat racist dad will be in for a wee shock when, not only do his immediate family know, but they approve. Largely because her breaking off before showed she didn’t want to use me.

56 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:49:47am

Yeah who cares about the excessively high bacteria levels!

57 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 11:50:24am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah who cares about the excessively high bacteria levels!

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I’ve seen what happens when you try and sell loose cigarettes.

58 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:51:26am

?????

59 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:52:04am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah who cares about the excessively high bacteria levels!

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Don’t get me started on the raw milk idiots!!!

60 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 11:52:19am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Now he’s digging into the killer’s mother’s past.

Because she doesn’t have enough misery in her life yet. She needs some of Chuck’s attention.

And his sister too. What horrible thing did she say?

donotlink.com

‘m usually un interested in politics but the subject of Israel & Palestine is very disturbing. It’s bothersome that there is a genocide happening in this day and age (admittedly posted by Israel Times) which was later ejected. As humans we should have evolved beyond barbaric behavior. Unfortunately that’s not the case. My position in this war is #love �peace. Let’s encourage the humane agenda. Support peace and solar energy at the same time.

PEACE! LOVE! SOLAR POWER! Oh, the horror!!!!!

61 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:52:37am

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

That’s how I make Key Lime Pie.

You ARE evil!

/:)

62 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2014 11:53:18am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Oh please. Much of the world allows raw milk with little trouble. 30 states here for example. Britain calls it a low risk food.

63 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:54:15am

re: #62 Rightwingconspirator

Oh please. Much of the world allows raw milk with little trouble. 30 states here for example. Britain calls it a low risk food.

Milk poisoning was not an uncommon cause of death before Pasteurization.

64 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2014 11:55:33am

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

Today? In Britain? France? 30 states here? Screw Ron Paul. But this cheese thing is stupid. I took some cheese making classes. Raw milk is all about proper handling.

65 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 11:56:29am

re:
#56

And don’t even try to set up a lemonade stand sell raw milk without a license.
#AiringOfGrievances
— Senator Rand Paul

But Ayn Rand Paul probably still wants teh gay sex regulated.

66 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 11:57:41am

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

Don’t get me started on the raw milk idiots!!!

I kind of get the raw milk idiots. I’ve had ice cream made with raw milk-very interesting and different flavor.
The problem of course is that there is a huge difference between unpasteurized milk from a small herd owned by someone you know and that from GigundoDairyCorp (or someone who trusts woodsprites to keep the milk safe, or whatever.)

67 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 11:58:33am

ChuckC is mentioned==>

68 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 11:59:50am
The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) says improperly handled raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalisations than any other food-borne disease outbreak, making it one of the world’s most dangerous food products.[15][better source needed] Diseases pasteurization can prevent include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7,[16][17] among others.

from the wiki

69 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 12:00:53pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

70 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 12:01:15pm

Has WW been around?

71 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 12:02:01pm

re: #66 calochortus

I kind of get the raw milk idiots. I’ve had ice cream made with raw milk-very interesting and different flavor.
The problem of course is that there is a huge difference between unpasteurized milk from a small herd owned by someone you know and that from GigundoDairyCorp (or someone who trusts woodsprites to keep the milk safe, or whatever.)

agreed, you can drink raw milk from your own cow, but don’t try to sell it in mass quantities all over the country.

Like so many healthier choices, they don’t translate well to marketing to the whole globe.

72 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2014 12:04:22pm

To those I just disagreed with-Sorry!

Raw milk is one of those discussions utterly tanked by big personalities and loudmouthed unreasonable advocates. To me it’s simple-Sell it to me and (same as raw chicken) I’m expected to use proper methods.

73 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 12:05:16pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah who cares about the excessively high bacteria levels!

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This my uncle Robert Banning Cox. I never met him, because he died from contaminated ice cream, back in the grand old days when you could sell raw milk without a license, so Rand Paul can go to hell.

74 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:06:23pm

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

CDC primer on raw milk and risks:

Raw milk can carry harmful bacteria and other germs that can make you very sick or even kill you. While it is possible to get foodborne illnesses from many different foods, raw milk is one of the riskiest of all. Getting sick from raw milk can mean many days of diarrhea, stomach cramping, and vomiting. Less commonly, it can mean kidney failure, paralysis, chronic disorders, and even death.

Many people who chose raw milk thinking they would improve their health instead found themselves (or their loved ones) sick in a hospital for several weeks fighting for their lives from infections caused by germs in raw milk. For example, a person can develop severe or even life-threatening diseases, such as Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis, and hemolytic uremic syndrome, which can result in kidney failure and stroke.

(snip)

States that allow the legal sale of raw milk for human consumption have more raw milk-related outbreaks of illness than states that do not allow raw milk to be sold legally. Experts also found that those sickened in raw milk outbreaks were 13 times more likely to be hospitalized than those who got ill from pasteurized milk during an outbreak.

Among dairy product-associated outbreaks reported to CDC during 2007 and 2012 in which the investigators reported whether the product was pasteurized or raw, 81% were due to raw milk or cheese. A study released by CDC in January 2014 examined the number of outbreaks associated with raw milk in the United States during this 6‐year period. From 2007 through 2012, 81 outbreaks due to consumption of raw milk were reported to CDC from 26 states. These outbreaks resulted in 979 illnesses and 73 people were hospitalized. Most of these illnesses were caused by Campylobacter, Escherichia coli O157, or Salmonella. Most (81%) outbreaks occurred in states where the sale of raw milk was legal at the time. It is important to note that a substantial proportion of the raw milk-associated disease burden falls on children. Of the 78 outbreaks from 2007 to 2012 with information on the patients’ ages available, 59% involved at least one child under the age of 5 years.

That’s what Paul is promoting (that is when he’s not shilling for his bogus medical organization that is little more than a paper mill for “credentials” that should carry no weight among anyone in the field.

75 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 23, 2014 12:08:32pm

re: #62 Rightwingconspirator

Oh please. Much of the world allows raw milk with little trouble. 30 states here for example. Britain calls it a low risk food.

Come on down the family cemetery with me. I can show you several reasons why I believe in mandatory pasteurization.

76 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 12:09:54pm

re: #75 William Barnett-Lewis

Come on down the family cemetery with me. I can show you several reasons why I believe in mandatory pasteurization.

The free market works fine. Once people are dead, they stop buying the tainted milk, and the seller goes out of business.
/

77 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:17:16pm

re: #76 No Country For Old Haters

You’ve got to combine several related features of the GOP/Libertarian doctrine here.

1) demand access to raw milk, claiming that regulation is stifling (even though regulation has reduced food-borne illnesses significantly);
2) watch as GOP keeps reducing funding and blocking further regulation protecting food supplies;
3) watch as GOP cuts funding to regulatory agencies responsible for food safety oversight like the FDA and Department of Agriculture;
4) as food borne illnesses increase, the GOP will claim that they should drop the regulations since the illnesses are increasing (due to their gutting the agencies ability to do their job).

Rinse and repeat.

And it applies to more than just food safety. This is the general trend among GOP policies on other industries too.

78 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 12:17:28pm

re: #72 Rightwingconspirator

To those I just disagreed with-Sorry!

Raw milk is one of those discussions utterly tanked by big personalities and loudmouthed unreasonable advocates. To me it’s simple-Sell it to me and (same as raw chicken) I’m expected to use proper methods.

Most people plan to cook their raw chicken at some point before consuming it, which is not the case with milk so whatever is in there won’t be killed.

79 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:18:52pm

re: #22 klystron

Sounds like you had an amazing time. If I’m ever in Yosemite during the winter season, I’ll definitely consider. Problem is that the Mrs. is not a winter weather fan, so getting to Yosemite in winter (or the other national parks that have spectacular winter scenery) is a long shot.

80 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:20:16pm

re: #78 calochortus

And food-borne illness with chicken is often due to improper handling before cooking - and efforts to reduce contamination before sale is constantly getting blocked even though it would greatly benefit public health (and reduce health care costs too).

81 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 12:22:29pm

“Desegregation, Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Gay Rights, Gay Marriage, Social Security, Medicare, the eight-hour day, minimum wage, labor unions, child labor laws, Medicare, Medicaid —
#AiringofGrievances
Rand Paul, Senator”

//

82 elizajane  Dec 23, 2014 12:23:10pm

I have a self-control problem.
First, my sainted father offers to help pay for my middle daughter’s college tuition to the tune of $10,000/year, making this path possible for our family.
Then, in the same phone call, he says “So what do you think about those two dead cops?” and from there, before I can say anything, we are at “thousands of leftists calling for dead cops” and “the race-baiter-in-chief and his cronies.”

I tried saying “Dad, this doesn’t have anything to do with Obama.”
Then I said, “Dad, we need to end this conversation”
Then I said, “Dad, I think we should hang up now”

But nothing stopped him. On and on about leftist cop-haters and Al Sharpton being Obama’s best pal. Thank God my partner grabbed the phone from me before I could hang up on him, possibly saving my daughter’ college education.
My question: in the same circumstances, would you have been able to say “Yes, Dad. You’re right, Dad. It’s all Obama’s fault, and the leftist haters”?

83 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 12:23:23pm

re: #80 lawhawk

But, but, Cheap Food!
I’m fortunate that I’m able to buy a lot of our meat, eggs, and dairy from smaller, more local producers, but the race to the bottom in food production worries me from a public health perspective.

84 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 12:23:46pm
85 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 12:24:18pm

re: #79 lawhawk

The Valley floor actually doesn’t get snow all that often - it’s gorgeous when it does, but it’s pretty rare.

I cannot recommend enough. It was amazing in every sense of the word.

86 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 12:24:37pm

re:
#84

RWNJ don’t see race, skin color. Just a man’s character, like MLK always said. ///

87 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:25:44pm

You want airing of grievances?

88 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 12:26:42pm

re: #84 Ace-o-aces

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Ya know, I’m probably the literalist to end all literalists and still I would have no problem whatsoever with a non-white James Bond. I gather Rush lacks an imagination?

89 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:27:41pm

re: #85 klystron

It’s the cold more than the snow.

90 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:29:00pm

re: #88 calochortus

A black James Bond? Sure.
A female Doctor? ARE YOU KIDDING?????!! /that’s a bridge too far.

Frankly, both franchises could not only stand for change, but would be reinvigorated with the different directions that could be played with someone other than a white guy in the title role.

91 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 12:29:01pm

re: #77 lawhawk

5> They’ll be able to pretend that the people who died didn’t follow wingnut religious dogma closely enough and deserved it.

92 HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2014 12:29:23pm

I’m sure Rush was steaming that “Red” from Shawshank was changed from a white Irish guy to a black man. James Bond being portrayed by a black actor isn’t going to ruin the character at all and honestly I’d love to see what Elba could do with the character.

93 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 12:30:23pm

re: #89 lawhawk

It’s the cold more than the snow.

It’s CA. Cold here means in the 40s at the lowest, in most cases. At least during the day. -_-

It was disgustingly warm.

94 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 12:30:34pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I’m sure Rush was steaming that “Red” from Shawshank was changed from a white Irish guy to a black man. James Bond being portrayed by a black actor isn’t going to ruin the character at all and honestly I’d love to see what Elba could do with the character.

Cripes, I remember when people were upset at a BLOND Bond.

95 HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2014 12:31:11pm

Of course, Rush is the same one who complained about 12 Years a Slave’s portrayal of slavery and one of his fellow conservatives wished it had been more like Gone With the Wind. You know a movie based off an escaped slave’s memoir should be more like one of the most famous Lost Cause novels.

96 HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2014 12:32:07pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

Cripes, I remember when people were upset at a BLOND Bond.

I remember that. So stupid. I’ve always seen Craig as a sort of British and modern Steve McQueen. I admit, I stole that since that was how my Dad described him when Craig first got the part. He was familiar with him due to Layer Cake.

97 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 12:33:28pm

re: #93 klystron

We actually had snow when we were in Yosemite a few years back. Shorts one day, snow at high elevations the next. Similar thing happened in Yellowstone and Badlands on separate occasions. I’m sure under right circumstances, the Mrs. would jump at trip. We pretty much hit the parks on shoulder season, so we’re always mixing it up with possible dramatic weather (which can make for trying times when doing the travel, but great photo chances).

98 HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2014 12:33:32pm

I mean changing a historical character I get why people would be upset. A fictional character who a lot of people speculate is a codename anyhow? Stupid. And Rush is wrong anyhow. Bond wasn’t originally Scottish. Fleming did like the Scottish touch Bond added. Hell, you really want to throw em into a loop. Have a gay Bond eventually.

99 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 12:37:43pm

re: #93 klystron

Speaking of warm weather, I think I’ll go out for a walk. It’s in the mid-60s and tomorrow will be a brutally cold mid-50s.

BBL

100 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 12:38:27pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I mean changing a historical character I get why people would be upset. A fictional character who a lot of people speculate is a codename anyhow? Stupid. And Rush is wrong anyhow. Bond wasn’t originally Scottish. Fleming did like the Scottish touch Bond added. Hell, you really want to throw em into a loop. Have a gay Bond eventually.

My wife likes to say, “The theater is no place for people to pretend to be something they’re not.”

101 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 12:38:35pm

re: #88 calochortus

Ya know, I’m probably the literalist to end all literalists and still I would have no problem whatsoever with a non-white James Bond. I gather Rush lacks an imagination?

I think you have to stay true to the essence of the Character. Bond is Suave and British. He can be black, no problem. American? Problem.

102 Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2014 12:41:42pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I mean changing a historical character I get why people would be upset. A fictional character who a lot of people speculate is a codename anyhow? Stupid. And Rush is wrong anyhow. Bond wasn’t originally Scottish. Fleming did like the Scottish touch Bond added. Hell, you really want to throw em into a loop. Have a gay Bond eventually.

We had a discussion about this the other morning and I still maintain that the problem with the whole “codename” angle is that it would end up effectively rendering Bond a parody of himself. Already actors are constrained by what they can bring to the character of Bond by Fleming’s description of him and expectations that Connery set for the role. It’s why there was so much fuss about Craig being blond when he was named the new Bond.

But making it something that’s in-universe as well, “Bond” no longer as a unique individual but simply an agent that’s been promoted to the “codename,” sort of destroys the mystique. Now you’re no longer watching the adventures of James Bond, you’re watching the adventures of Nigel, the guy who got promoted to be the “new” Bond.

103 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 12:43:25pm

re: #101 Ace-o-aces

For the same reasons, you can’t have a white Shaft. Being black is too essential to the character.

104 Sionainn  Dec 23, 2014 12:43:36pm

re: #82 elizajane

I have a self-control problem.
First, my sainted father offers to help pay for my middle daughter’s college tuition to the tune of $10,000/year, making this path possible for our family.
Then, in the same phone call, he says “So what do you think about those two dead cops?” and from there, before I can say anything, we are at “thousands of leftists calling for dead cops” and “the race-baiter-in-chief and his cronies.”

I tried saying “Dad, this doesn’t have anything to do with Obama.”
Then I said, “Dad, we need to end this conversation”
Then I said, “Dad, I think we should hang up now”

But nothing stopped him. On and on about leftist cop-haters and Al Sharpton being Obama’s best pal. Thank God my partner grabbed the phone from me before I could hang up on him, possibly saving my daughter’ college education.
My question: in the same circumstances, would you have been able to say “Yes, Dad. You’re right, Dad. It’s all Obama’s fault, and the leftist haters”?

No, I wouldn’t be able to say that. Thankfully, my dad and I are on the same page. I don’t envy you and I’m sorry that you had to deal with that.

105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 23, 2014 12:44:24pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I mean changing a historical character I get why people would be upset. A fictional character who a lot of people speculate is a codename anyhow? Stupid. And Rush is wrong anyhow. Bond wasn’t originally Scottish. Fleming did like the Scottish touch Bond added. Hell, you really want to throw em into a loop. Have a gay Bond eventually.

And remake Otcopussy into what? Octopenis?

106 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 23, 2014 12:46:23pm

re: #82 elizajane

Nope. I would have been all over my dad if he said that (and he would because he’s as much of a RWNJ as any of em).

107 The War TARDIS  Dec 23, 2014 12:52:04pm

re: #101 Ace-o-aces

The only thing the next Doctor needs to be is British. :)

108 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 12:54:18pm

re: #107 The War TARDIS

He’s not British, he’s an alien.

109 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 12:56:55pm

Well, with that beard, he does look kind of Muslimish.

110 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 1:01:46pm

re: #107 The War TARDIS

The only thing the next Doctor needs to be is British. :)

It’s interesting to see Dave Tennant play an American on Gracepoint. When I finished Broadchurch, and started watching Gracepoint, I assumed he’d be playing a British detective, but that was not the case.

111 Lancelot Link  Dec 23, 2014 1:04:05pm

re: #101 Ace-o-aces

I think you have to stay true to the essence of the Character. Bond is Suave and British. He can be black, no problem. American? Problem.

The first on-screen James Bond was, in fact, American.
imdb.com

112 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:04:36pm

re: #111 Lancelot Link

The first on-screen James Bond was, in fact, American.
imdb.com

Yes, and it sucked rubber donkey balls.

113 Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2014 1:04:40pm

re: #110 No Country For Old Haters

It’s interesting to see Dave Tennant play an American on Gracepoint. When I finished Broadchurch, and started watching Gracepoint, I assumed he’d be playing a British detective, but that was not the case.

Not much of a surprise. After all, Tennant spent the better part of 5 years convincing audiences that he was English.

114 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:05:21pm
115 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:09:05pm
116 Mentis Fugit  Dec 23, 2014 1:10:38pm

re: #108 b.d.

He’s not British, he’s an alien.

Lots of planets have a North.

117 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 1:11:57pm

re: #115 Ace-o-aces

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118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 23, 2014 1:12:19pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, Obama has taken over the UK too?

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Do they also want the whole Empire back?

119 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:12:38pm

re: #108 b.d.

He’s not British, he’s an alien.

I assume we are just going to ignore the whole “half-human” thing from the 90’s movie.

120 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 1:16:41pm

re: #115 Ace-o-aces

The joys of dollar cost averaging - if you kept your cool, you’d have benefited from not only the drop in the recession, but the runup since.

Fleeing the market to go for gold? That was a sucker’s bet. And of course, the suckers lost. Beck got his shilling fees of course, so he can continue fleecing the rubes.

121 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:17:28pm

re:
#115

Can’t hold Glenn Beck accountable for anything he said three years ago, two years ago, a year ago, a week ago, this morning. C’mon, man.

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122 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:17:46pm

re: #120 lawhawk

What are rubes for, if not to be fleeced?

123 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:19:09pm

re:
#115

Hell, America the country wasn’t even supposed to be here, Man! It was supposed to be ended already. Except the people who bought gold would be off pretty well even without a country, wandering the ruins of Obama’s America, looking in on the FEMA death panel trailer camps.

124 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 1:21:14pm

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH ALL OF THESE SEEDS?

125 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 1:22:09pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Do they also want the whole Empire back?

That reminded me of the scene in “Hope and Glory”, where the teacher is pointing to a map of the world…

“Pink! Pink! Pink! Who can tell me what the Pink Bits are?”

‘The British Empire?’

“The British Empire! That’s what this war is about - saving the Pink Bits for you ungrateful lot!”

126 The War TARDIS  Dec 23, 2014 1:23:28pm

re: #119 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, we have no evidence of that in the new series.

Unfortunately, a segment of the fans think Lung barrow is canon. Even when rest of the fan ft om agrees it isn’t.

Thankfully, Clara Oswald firmly ejected it from Canon in the last episode.

127 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 1:23:31pm
128 Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2014 1:24:23pm

re: #120 lawhawk

The joys of dollar cost averaging - if you kept your cool, you’d have benefited from not only the drop in the recession, but the runup since.

Fleeing the market to go for gold? That was a sucker’s bet. And of course, the suckers lost. Beck got his shilling fees of course, so he can continue fleecing the rubes.

Remember how all the “smart money” was being told as recently as 2010 about how catastrophic inflation was on the horizon and to get out of the market before it destroyed the economy?

129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:25:20pm

I hope somebody, like RW Watch, is collecting all the loonie batshit stuff the various crackpots have said and predicted over the past six years so it can be compiled and broadcast all over the planet. Somebody should be doing this for all the religious cable stations, too.

130 Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2014 1:26:32pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

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131 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 1:27:38pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

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I never really understood why questioning obvious partisan organizations if they were partisan organizations or not was such a big deal?

132 darthstar  Dec 23, 2014 1:27:47pm
133 darthstar  Dec 23, 2014 1:28:17pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

Ah, you beat me…refresh before pasting…refresh before pasting.

134 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:28:37pm

re:
#128

Remember how all the “smart money” was being told as recently as 2010 about how catastrophic inflation was on the horizon and to get out of the market before it destroyed the economy?

if you listened to this expert economics guy I heard on the religious family station today you’d know that there isn’t any money left and inflation is 50% and the economy is about to collapse if we don’t overthrow Obama and what’s with all these blah people protesters and violence and stuff trying to make revolution?

135 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:31:30pm

re:
#128

We’re just PRINTING money, Man. Also, $17 trillion debt and too much government spending and taxes so high we taxpayers on Social Security and Medicare can’t breathe.

136 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 1:31:59pm

re: #131 b.d.

I never really understood why questioning obvious partisan organizations if they were partisan organizations or not was such a big deal?

Because Tea Party victimization. waah.

137 The War TARDIS  Dec 23, 2014 1:32:32pm

re: #126 The War TARDIS

I’ll summarize what was the big issue with Lungbarrow. From the TARDIS wiki.

According to Leela, each Family on Gallifrey had their own “Family Loom” which they used to create new members of their Family. She felt pity for Gallifreyans, because the Looms prevented “true children” from existing on their planet. Gallifreyans were born as “full-grown adults”, although they were child-like at the time of their birth, and had to mature mentally like any young life-form. The genetic relationship between people originating from each Family Loom was lateral rather than direct, meaning that people from the same Loom were “cousins” of each other.

Clara helped bounce it out of Canon twice this Series.

During Listen, when the Doctor was a child and she spoke to him, and in Death in Heaven, when she tried to bluff her way through the cybermen. She mentioned biological children of the Doctor.

138 gwangung  Dec 23, 2014 1:33:01pm

re: #131 b.d.

I never really understood why questioning obvious partisan organizations if they were partisan organizations or not was such a big deal?

Because it’s NOT OK If You Are A Republican.

139 ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2014 1:37:24pm

So, Rep. Michael Grimm pleaded guilty and says he plans on keeping his office.

Dang. I was sort of hoping the rest of the House members would take him and throw him over the marble railing in the Capitol Building Rotunda.

He can take it like a man. /

140 lawhawk  Dec 23, 2014 1:37:52pm

re: #132 darthstar

Only thing that would have been more satisfying in that regard, is if Issa had done this as a Friday night news dump. He couldn’t even get that part right.

The most he can claim about the IRS scandal is that the IRS and WH weren’t more forthcoming. He found no link to the WH. None. It’s a nothingburger, and the primary reason that the IRS had to do what it did was because it doesn’t have enough money to examine all applications for nonprofit status, so it looked for shorthands - like say the name of the organization to divine its corporate purpose.

So, instead of fixing the law, the Congressional nitwits launched investigation after investigation to claim that the IRS was up to no good.

And the rubes keep up with the news via Fox, and claiming that the taxes are excessive (primarily because far too many are getting tax breaks they shouldn’t, and the IRS can’t catch the problems). That goes for corporate and individual taxpayers too.

141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2014 1:39:02pm

re:
#129

Actually that should be my Facebook thing, dive deep into the cesspool of hyperbullshit and just post some of that shit and see how many wingnutty friends I get to unfriend me.

142 darthstar  Dec 23, 2014 1:39:05pm
143 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 1:41:10pm

re: #142 darthstar

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144 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 1:52:09pm

re: #90 lawhawk

A black James Bond? Sure.
A female Doctor? ARE YOU KIDDING?????!! /that’s a bridge too far.

Frankly, both franchises could not only stand for change, but would be reinvigorated with the different directions that could be played with someone other than a white guy in the title role.

Well you remember the meltdown when a Black man was cast as the Gatekeeper of Asgard in the “Thor” movie. ASGARD IS THE WHITE MAN’S HEAVEN!!!!1!!!!

There is a fan legend that “James Bond 007” is a code name taken by different agents, because how else can you explain that he never gets old or frail after more than 50 years.

145 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 1:53:15pm

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

Well you remember the meltdown when a Black man was cast as the Gatekeeper of Asgard in the “Thor” movie. ASGARD IS THE WHITE MAN’S HEAVEN!!!!1!!!!

There is a fan legend that “James Bond 007” is a code name taken by different agents, because how else can you explain that he never gets old or frail after more than 50 years.

Phase shifting.

146 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 1:53:40pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Now he’s digging into the killer’s mother’s past.

Because she doesn’t have enough misery in her life yet. She needs some of Chuck’s attention.

He’s “Updated” this post. Make of it what you will:

A Muslim expert friend weighs in and points out that the Muslim cop killer’s mother doesn’t appear to be an Islamist.

She follows this guy - Al Azhar trained -alfityanuk.wordpress.com says the shaykh’s following is 100 million. He’s associated with something called the African American Islamic Institute. Sufi self-identified school of Shariah (Tijani Tariqa - tijani.org).

And he posts a photo of this guy facebook.com who is his grandfather -

I think she’s an African-identified Sufi Muslim whose son was already being institutionalized and committing crimes, possibly before he adopted a Muslim jihadist identity and mission - I’m not an apologist for Sufism, but the son’s commitment to jihad could have been in opposition to her Sufism as much as influenced by her general Islamic identity. We don’t know - that would be a primary topic among the questions I would ask her if you can get an interview.

Oh yeah, I’m sure she’s dying to have Chucky interview her.

147 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 1:54:57pm

How come there has never been a Canadian super hero or action hero?

148 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 1:55:40pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

How come there has never been a Canadian super hero or action hero?

Have you never heard of Captain Canuck?

149 Whack-A-Mole  Dec 23, 2014 1:56:14pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

Alpha Flight, Marvel’s Canadian team.

150 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 1:56:16pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

How come there has never been a Canadian super hero or action hero?

Or Winnie the Pooh?

151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 23, 2014 1:59:00pm

re: #140 lawhawk

It fit the narrative of Obama using federal government thugs to help fix the elections and oppress True Patriots. And nobody, even people who acknowledge its necessity, really like the IRS, so it was an easy and cheap target.

152 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 1:59:20pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

How come there has never been a Canadian super hero or action hero?

Dudley Do-Right is a bad ass.

153 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 2:01:58pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

How come there has never been a Canadian super hero or action hero?

uh…en.wikipedia.org

154 Timothy Watson  Dec 23, 2014 2:06:51pm

I read the plot synopsis for the season finale of Homeland and it sounds so bad I don’t even feel like actually watching it. Any input?

155 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 23, 2014 2:07:07pm

When the hell is someone going to dig into CCJ’s past and embarrass the fuck out of him to the point he’s shamed into silence?

156 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:07:38pm

re: #154 Timothy Watson

I read the plot synopsis for the season finale of Homeland and it sounds so bad I don’t even feel like actually watching it. Any input?

I lost interest at the beginning of the season.

157 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:08:58pm

re: #155 GlutenFreeJesus

When the hell is someone going to dig into CCJ’s past and embarrass the fuck out of him to the point he’s shamed into silence?

If he hasn’t been embarrassed into silence over his own public statements in the past year, what makes you think exposing past misdeeds would shut him up?

158 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 2:09:52pm

re: #155 GlutenFreeJesus

When the hell is someone going to dig into CCJ’s past and embarrass the fuck out of him to the point he’s shamed into silence?

You mean something in his past that is embarrassing besides the floor pooping and bestiality allegations?

159 Timothy Watson  Dec 23, 2014 2:11:45pm

re: #156 No Country For Old Haters

I lost interest at the beginning of the season.

I’ve gotten to the point where I’m pretty much hate-watching the show. Something about my OCD compels me to keep on watching it unfortunately. :(

160 ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2014 2:11:52pm

re: #155 GlutenFreeJesus

When the hell is someone going to dig into CCJ’s past and embarrass the fuck out of him to the point he’s shamed into silence?

Unpossible.

He cannot be embarrassed. He has no shame. Fact.

161 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 23, 2014 2:12:34pm

re: #157 No Country For Old Haters

I think even he has a limit. Much more than any normal person, but it’s there. Somewhere.

162 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:16:31pm

re: #159 Timothy Watson

I’ve gotten to the point where I’m pretty much hate-watching the show. Something about my OCD compels me to keep on watching it unfortunately. :(

Ha, I do that with some other shows, but managed to get free of Homeland.
I even watched Sliders until the very end, even though each episode was worse than the one before it. I enjoy a train-wreck as much as anyone.

I did really enjoy Claire Danes’ performances in earlier seasons.

163 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:19:05pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

Unpossible.

He cannot be embarrassed. He has no shame. Fact.

He’s not self-aware enough for shame. I think his disability is a huge factor, and that would stop me from mocking him for being so delusional in public, if not for his massive ego.

164 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:19:35pm

re: #161 GlutenFreeJesus

I think even he has a limit. Much more than any normal person, but it’s there. Somewhere.

I’ll believe that when I see it, not a moment sooner.

165 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 2:19:46pm

re: #163 No Country For Old Haters

He’s not self-aware enough for shame. I think his disability is a huge factor, and that would stop me from mocking him for being so delusional in public, if not for his massive ego.

What disability is that?

166 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 2:20:42pm

re: #165 b_sharp

What disability is that?

Douchebagitis

167 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:21:26pm

re: #165 b_sharp

What disability is that?

He’s autistic. I think it’s the root of his issues, though obviously not an excuse, since most autistic folks are decent people.

168 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:22:26pm

re: #166 b.d.

Douchebagitis

That too.

169 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 2:22:28pm

re: #167 No Country For Old Haters

He’s autistic. I think it’s the root of his issues, though obviously not an excuse, since most autistic folks are decent people.

Why believe his claims of autism? He’s lied about everything else.

170 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 2:22:55pm

re: #167 No Country For Old Haters

He’s autistic. I think it’s the root of his issues, though obviously not an excuse, since most autistic folks are decent people.

Aspergers isn’t really a disability.

Using it as an excuse may be.

171 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 2:23:56pm

re: #169 b.d.

Why believe his claims of autism? He’s lied about everything else.

I’d have to know more about his past interactions to draw a conclusion.

172 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:24:34pm

re: #169 b.d.

Why believe his claims of autism? He’s lied about everything else.

Because of his inability to successfully interact with people. Yes, wingnuts generally can’t interact well with people outside the cult, but Chuck even fails to interact well with his fellow right-wing lunatics.

173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 23, 2014 2:24:38pm

re: #155 GlutenFreeJesus

When the hell is someone going to dig into CCJ’s past and embarrass the fuck out of him to the point he’s shamed into silence?

You assume that he has a sense of shame and underestimate his ability to rationalize and relativize anything he says or does.

174 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:26:49pm

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You assume that he has a sense of shame and underestimate his ability to rationalize and relativize anything he says or does.

Yep, Chuck will just modify his delusions based on anything that would shame a normal person. He may eventually realize that he’s full of crap and have a complete breakdown, but my money’s on him lacking the self-awareness to realize what he is.

175 bubba zanetti  Dec 23, 2014 2:30:22pm

Hey, is anyone on UpDog yet, the social network for the connected and powerful?

176 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:32:58pm

re: #170 b_sharp

Aspergers isn’t really a disability.

Using it as an excuse may be.

I think it’s more than Aspergers, which really is a disability, though it often comes with advantages too. I say this as someone on the spectrum, who didn’t learn to comfortably interact with people until fairly late in life, and missed a lot of social cues as a young person.

177 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:34:10pm

Hate to change the subject from Upchuck. Not.

Got the bad news from my landlord this afternoon that he’s sold the complex. He recently had another heart attack and had to have 4 stents put in place, so he thinks he’ll retire from the real estate business. Sold it to a guy in NY who will have a mgmt co here handle it. I had asked him a couple of times if he was selling it, since the bank has been out here twice in the last couple of months, the last on Fri when they toured my apt (as a model) and it closed on Mon, appparently.

I sure don’t think they’re going to replace him, though. Best landlord and all around nice guy you could ever want, but with his medical issues, I don’t blame him for slowing down. He was afraid he’d have the fatal h.a. and leave his wife with too much to handle on her own. So they’re divesting themselves of pretty much all their rental properties.

I dread having to deal with a mgmt co and an absentee “landlord” for whom this is strictly an investment.

For M, it was a labor of love.

178 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 2:35:15pm

re: #176 No Country For Old Haters

I think it’s more than Aspergers, which really is a disability, though it often comes with advantages too. I say this as someone on the spectrum, who didn’t learn to comfortably interact with people until fairly late in life, and missed a lot of social cues as a young person.

I went through exactly the same things. Although I haven’t been formally diagnosed, my oldest grandson and my daughter have been, and my other grandson will be diagnosed soon I suspect.

179 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:35:31pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Sorry to hear about your excellent landlord. I hope he’s doing OK with the stents, and has a long, happy retirement.

180 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 2:35:32pm

Nope, not buying autism or ASD as any part of an explanation for CCJ. The people I know on the spectrum are more susceptible to shame than most neurotypicals. They are acutely aware of not necessarily knowing as easily where boundaries are, and when they discover they’ve crossed them are mortified.

No, he’s just an malignant narcissist who uses a claim of autism to excuse his execrable behavior.

181 FemNaziBitch  Dec 23, 2014 2:36:59pm

Time to think about feeding the animals.

bbl

182 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 2:37:24pm
183 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:38:34pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope, not buying autism or ASD as any part of an explanation for CCJ. The people I know on the spectrum are more susceptible to shame than most neurotypicals. They are acutely aware of not necessarily knowing as easily where boundaries are, and when they discover they’ve crossed them are mortified.

No, he’s just an malignant narcissist who uses a claim of autism to excuse his execrable behavior.

I was more susceptible to shame than most, but I tie that more to my struggle with depression than ASD. I wasn’t aware that I didn’t understand some boundaries.

I do agree he’s a malignant narcissist, I just think he has other issues as well.

184 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:39:20pm

re: #179 No Country For Old Haters

Sorry to hear about your excellent landlord. I hope he’s doing OK with the stents, and has a long, happy retirement.

He’s not retiring from US Air, though. He’s an airplane mechanic working FT, and he told me the other day he has a few more years until he can retire. I often wondered how he could work so hard with all his medical problems (including rotor cuff surgery on both shoulders).

185 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:40:16pm

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

I often wondered how he could work so hard with all his medical problems (including rotor cuff surgery on both shoulders).

Some of us are stronger than others. Not me…I’m soft from an easy life.

186 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 2:41:21pm

He reminds me more of a sociopath - the lack of any moral conscience, the lack of caring about anyone else, the eagerness to use others for his own advancement regardless of the consequences, the tendency to see others as characters in a play being put on for his own benefit.

187 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:41:48pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

He reminds me more of a sociopath - the lack of any moral conscience, the lack of caring about anyone else, the eagerness to use others for his own advancement regardless of the consequences, the tendency to see others as characters in a play being put on for his own benefit.

That’s what malignant narcissists do.

188 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 2:41:51pm

Actually now that I think about it, I’m pretty sure that I still don’t understand some boundaries.

189 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 2:42:34pm

Decided to go to the store. Was going to wait till tomorrow, but need to just get it over with.

:(

190 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:43:01pm

re: #188 No Country For Old Haters

Actually now that I think about it, I’m pretty sure that I still don’t understand some boundaries.

For some people, there aren’t any. Those are the ones who scare the shit out of me.

191 ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2014 2:45:31pm

If Chuck C. is really suffering from autism, wouldn’t his wife or others in his family, maybe some friends reign him in? There doesn’t really seem to be any filter for his behavior and he doesn’t seem to be able to control himself.

That hints others have tried and given up or they try and nothing happens. He just plows on in his heavy-handed new journalism way. So he must see himself in control and doing everything just as he would plan.

No matter what the cause, it remains that he cannot be embarrassed. He has no shame. The only thing that will shut him up is violence, a huge lawsuit where he loses everything or death. He is too far into himself now to stop. What drives that no longer matters.

This is Chuck C. Johnson.

We have a lot of evidence now.

192 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:45:35pm

What’s with these tornadoes in Dec? ///

And,

193 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 2:47:55pm

Let’s see if we can embed a YouTube playlist.

YouTube

194 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2014 2:49:10pm

re: #75 William Barnett-Lewis

Come on down the family cemetery with me. I can show you several reasons why I believe in mandatory pasteurization.

With all due respect and sorrow for those lost, that same cemetery has lots of graves for those that died of one misadventure or another. Raw milk should be available in all 50 states not just 30. Available and clearly labeled and dated. Anyone who objects to it’s risks can just get the regular stuff. Simply refrain from using any product you don’t like the risks of.

I take prilosec, I have to be extra careful as I don’t have acid to kill a light exposure to a bad bug. There are foods that could kill me (or anyone else) if it goes bad. Shellfish etc. I’m very careful about raw fish and shellfish.

I don’t want any of those off the market either.

Do we have an epidemic of sick people from raw milk here or in Europe? I don’t think so. Just a small number as would be expected. How about eggs? American eggs would be illegal and considered unsafe in Britain.

Believe it or not, United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) graded eggs would be illegal if sold in the UK, or indeed anywhere in the European Union (EU). It’s all to do with the fact that commercial American eggs are federally required to be washed and sanitized before they reach the consumer. EU egg marketing laws, on the other hand, state that Class A eggs - those found on supermarkets shelves, must not be washed, or cleaned in any way…. “In Europe, the understanding is that this mandate actually encourages good husbandry on farms. It’s in the farmers’ best interests then to produce to cleanest eggs possible, as no one is going to buy their eggs if they’re dirty, ” explained Mark Williams, Chief Executive, British Egg Industry Council in a phone interview.

The point is there is more than one safe way to handle milk or crack an egg issue.

195 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:56:58pm

re: #194 Rightwingconspirator

Wouldn’t want to buy eggs that weren’t candled, though, and get a bloody yolk or partially developed chick. : )

196 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 2:59:51pm

Where’s Bonehead on this felon? Do the right thing.

197 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 3:00:09pm

re: #194 Rightwingconspirator

With all due respect and sorrow for those lost, that same cemetery has lots of graves for those that died of one misadventure or another. Raw milk should be available in all 50 states not just 30. Available and clearly labeled and dated. Anyone who objects to it’s risks can just get the regular stuff. Simply refrain from using any product you don’t like the risks of.

I take prilosec, I have to be extra careful as I don’t have acid to kill a light exposure to a bad bug. There are foods that could kill me (or anyone else) if it goes bad. Shellfish etc. I’m very careful about raw fish and shellfish.

I don’t want any of those off the market either.

Do we have an epidemic of sick people from raw milk here or in Europe? I don’t think so. Just a small number as would be expected. How about eggs? American eggs would be illegal and considered unsafe in Britain.

The point is there is more than one safe way to handle milk or crack an egg issue.

Yeah, that sounds great, till you read about the folks who read the anecdotal bullshit about how it’s SO MUCH BETTER than pasteurized milk, but don’t read the scientific studies that show the dangers, and they give it to their kids thinking they’re doing right by them.

198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 23, 2014 3:00:15pm

A standard libertarian or RW polemic approach is to harken back to the good old days of the family farm and the family doctor and the neighborhood business, all of whom prospered better when left to run things as they saw fit.

They consciously overlook the fact that it is now factory farming, a massive medical/industrial complex and multinational corporations that dominate the consumer landscape.

199 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 3:05:33pm

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A standard libertarian or RW polemic approach is to harken back to the good old days of the family farm and the family doctor and the neighborhood business, all of whom prospered better when left to run things as they saw fit.

They consciously overlook the fact that it is now factory farming, a massive medical/industrial complex and multinational corporations that dominate the consumer landscape.

And it’s not even about whether it should be available, but whether it should be regulated. Rand Paul was objecting to even that!

200 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 3:09:10pm

I have a problem with ‘Golden Agers’ generally, including my wife who likes to use vinegar in cleaning because ‘people used to use it as a disinfectant’.

Yeah, they did. And guess what was one of the most prevalent causes of death?

Infectious disease.

201 Ace-o-aces  Dec 23, 2014 3:13:13pm

re: #169 b.d.

Why believe his claims of autism? He’s lied about everything else.

Yeah, I believe it about as much as his 158 IQ.

202 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 3:15:00pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

I have a problem with ‘Golden Agers’ generally, including my wife who likes to use vinegar in cleaning because ‘people used to use it as a disinfectant’.

Yeah, they did. And guess what was one of the most prevalent causes of death?

Infectious disease.

On the other hand, I use vinegar and water to clean a lot of things becuase it does a fine job of cleaning many surfaces and is inexpensive.
Disinfection? I really don’t worry about that. I would only be disinfecting if someone had salmonella or something.

203 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 23, 2014 3:16:04pm

re: #201 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, I believe it about as much as his 158 IQ.

Look, autism is real. My son is on that spectrum, and so am I—I’m really high functioning; he’s not. But it is also what your parents tell people (and you) when they don’t understand why you’re a dick and stay a dick, even as you get older.

204 No Country For Old Haters  Dec 23, 2014 3:21:43pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

If Chuck C. is really suffering from autism, wouldn’t his wife or others in his family, maybe some friends reign him in?

I’d think they would even if he wasn’t autistic. If Chuck really does have a wife, the big question is why she hasn’t reined him in, or left him if he’s too full of himself to help.

205 BeachDem  Dec 23, 2014 3:21:48pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

I have a problem with ‘Golden Agers’ generally, including my wife who likes to use vinegar in cleaning because ‘people used to use it as a disinfectant’.

Yeah, they did. And guess what was one of the most prevalent causes of death?

Infectious disease.

They also used Lysol as a douche, but that’s a whole different story…

206 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 3:22:21pm

re: #203 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Look, autism is real. My son is on that spectrum, and so am I—I’m really high functioning; he’s not. But it is also what your parents tell people (and you) when they don’t understand why you’re a dick and stay a dick, even as you get older.

You pretty much describe my son and me. I don’t buy the “I’m autistic and that’s why I’m fucked up,” story either. UpChuck is such an asshole that he wants you to feel sorry for him because he’s such an asshole.

207 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 3:22:56pm

re: #204 No Country For Old Haters

I’d think they would even if he wasn’t autistic. If Chuck really does have a wife, the big question is why she hasn’t reined him in, or left him if he’s too full of himself to help.

He took away her passport.

208 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2014 3:23:57pm

Wow, some wingnut really does not like my Ike meme.
Well fuck him.

209 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 3:24:26pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

He took away her passport.

ha! I’ll keep an eye out for any “help! i’m being held by an evil ginger blogger” notes I may chance upon.

210 blueraven  Dec 23, 2014 3:26:47pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope, not buying autism or ASD as any part of an explanation for CCJ. The people I know on the spectrum are more susceptible to shame than most neurotypicals. They are acutely aware of not necessarily knowing as easily where boundaries are, and when they discover they’ve crossed them are mortified.

No, he’s just an malignant narcissist who uses a claim of autism to excuse his execrable behavior.

Those are my thoughts as well.
Extreme narcissism paired with a huge dose of megalomania.

211 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 3:26:50pm

re: #206 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You pretty much describe my son and me. I don’t buy the “I’m autistic and that’s why I’m fucked up,” story either. UpChuck is such an asshole that he wants you to feel sorry for him because he’s such an asshole.

I think perhaps this is a case of he is autistic and he’s a jerk. The two are not mutually exclusive.

212 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:28:32pm

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“… the good old days of the family farm and the family doctor and the neighborhood business…”

None of which could, by themselves, sustain the population we have today.

213 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 3:28:51pm

re: #204 No Country For Old Haters

I’d think they would even if he wasn’t autistic. If Chuck really does have a wife, the big question is why she hasn’t reined him in, or left him if he’s too full of himself to help.

There’s nothing wrong with UpChcuck, the world just doesn’t understand him is all.

214 bubba zanetti  Dec 23, 2014 3:28:51pm

re: #194 Rightwingconspirator

The point is there is more than one safe way to handle milk or crack an egg issue.

The article points out that eggs have a natural defense in a shell coating and washing the eggs might compromise it.

Milk has no natural protection to anything. It’s evolutionarily designed to make things grow, both good and bad.

215 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:30:40pm

re: #211 calochortus

I think perhaps this is a case of he is autistic and he’s a jerk. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I think he should have to release official papers showing he’s been diagnosed with autism, or admit it’s a hoax and he was lying about it to deflect criticism.

That’s what Chuck would do to anyone else claiming a disability.

216 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 3:31:02pm

re: #213 Higgs Boson’s Mate

There’s nothing wrong with UpChcuck, the world just doesn’t understand him is all.

Chuck is just an advanced life-form beyond our limited and pathetic level of understanding

//

217 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:31:05pm
218 Bear  Dec 23, 2014 3:32:53pm

All the discussion about pasteurized milk reminded me of the answer given by a girl to the question as to why pasteurized milk was better for you was ” because the cow is in the pasture longer”.

219 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 3:33:11pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

I think he should have to release official papers showing he’s been diagnosed with autism, or admit it’s a hoax and he was lying about it to deflect criticism.

That’s what Chuck would do to anyone else claiming a disability.

Perhaps. In any event, I wish people would quit paying attention to him. You’d think it would be obvious that he is not a good source of information.

220 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:34:43pm

I used to really love Alta Dena’s raw milk strawberry kefir, back in the day when they still made it. I guess it was a little dangerous, but I never got sick. Had a flavor and texture that they just can’t get with pasteurized milk.

221 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:35:16pm

re: #219 calochortus

Perhaps. In any event, I wish people would quit paying attention to him. You’d think it would be obvious that he is not a good source of information.

I know, but the opposite seems to be happening.

222 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 3:37:33pm

re: #219 calochortus

Perhaps. In any event, I wish people would quit paying attention to him. You’d think it would be obvious that he is not a good source of information.

His supporters aren’t interested in information, they want validation. They’ve been trained over the years to accept their feverish imaginings as fact as soon as someone repeats them back to them - and they love it.

223 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:38:57pm
224 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 3:41:58pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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That guy sure has lost his mind since he sent those dick pics to all of his followers

225 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:42:08pm

Local media reports death toll in Marion County, Miss., storm has risen to 4 - @stormchaser4850
end of alert

More: Emergency officials in Jones County, Miss., confirm 2 adult have died in severe storm - @weatherchannel
end of alert

226 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 3:42:15pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

re: #222 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sad, but true.

227 meteor  Dec 23, 2014 3:44:40pm

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

Happity birfdee!

228 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:48:49pm

Holy crap! Looks like that’s headed our way.

229 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:50:52pm

Curfew issued for Columbia, Miss., from 6 pm CT to 6 am CT amid deadly storm with history of producing tornadoes - @wdam
end of alert

230 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 3:51:31pm

re: #228 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! Looks like that’s headed our way.

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Batten down the hatches, mate. That looks pretty evil.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2014 3:51:36pm
232 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 3:51:48pm

re: #228 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! Looks like that’s headed our way.

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That looks really ugly. Stay safe.

233 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 3:53:37pm

Let’s hope the NYPD acts right.

234 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 3:53:49pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

I think he should have to release official papers showing he’s been diagnosed with autism, or admit it’s a hoax and he was lying about it to deflect criticism.

That’s what Chuck would do to anyone else claiming a disability.

Where’s the long-form autism certificate?!?

235 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:53:49pm

Italian Circus Closed After Trying to Pass Off Dogs as Pandas

abcnews.go.com

Yes, I suppose there is a sucker born every minute.

re: #232 calochortus

That looks really ugly. Stay safe.

Thanks. I live in a basement apt. All will be well and we’ll be safe. : )

236 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 3:54:49pm

re: #228 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! Looks like that’s headed our way.

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Stay safe everyone in that storm’s path. Look out for flying reindeer and other unsecured Christmas decorations.

237 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 3:54:57pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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Schindler has gone completely crazy. Or maybe he always was.

He teaches somewhere significant, correct?

238 Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2014 3:56:53pm

Looks like Chuck has realized there’s a huge element of the right wing base that really hates and demonizes Muslims and he’s starting to tap into it.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2014 3:57:15pm

re: #235 Justanotherhuman

Italian Circus Closed After Trying to Pass Off Dogs as Pandas

abcnews.go.com

Had that picture downstairs this morning:

240 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 3:58:16pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s really deplorable. I hope the State or local authorities will be able to help these twins, and also the parents to cope with what they’ve been dealt.

241 Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2014 3:58:40pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck has realized there’s a huge element of the right wing base that really hates and demonizes Muslims and he’s starting to tap into it.

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242 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2014 4:02:26pm

How soon until Chuck hooks up with Spencer and Geller?

243 BigPapa  Dec 23, 2014 4:07:35pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does a panda lick it’s balls? Because it’s a dog.

244 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:09:02pm

Psychos are everywhere. Gotta be extra-cautious about who you flip off…

Watch: California highway road rage caught on cam

khou.com

245 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:09:39pm

re: #240 Justanotherhuman

That’s really deplorable. I hope the State or local authorities will be able to help these twins, and also the parents to cope with what they’ve been dealt.

Well put. People who haven’t parented special needs children rarely understand the times of despair and the thousands of disheartening moments that are part of raising one. I can understand why some parents do terrible things or just give up.

246 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 23, 2014 4:18:57pm
247 BigPapa  Dec 23, 2014 4:21:02pm

re: #246 nearly-headless smith25

Between that and the Panda Chows I have to take a walk, in tears.

248 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:21:50pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Do you regret stopping NYPD mosque surveillance program now that we know #NYPD cop killer attended one of those mosques?

That’s because he knows that mentally disturbed Muslim spree killers must, under Sharia law, post a flyer on the mosque bulletin board announcing where and when they’re going to go on the rampage.

249 Snarknado!  Dec 23, 2014 4:25:31pm

re: #245 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well put. People who haven’t parented special needs children rarely understand the times of despair and the thousands of disheartening moments that are part of raising one. I can understand why some parents do terrible things or just give up.

Nonverbal and running away all the time is a hard combination. And it’s unlikely there was any help for them from outside sources.

250 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:25:39pm

re: #245 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well put. People who haven’t parented special needs children rarely understand the times of despair and the thousands of disheartening moments that are part of raising one. I can understand why some parents do terrible things or just give up.

I always thought my sons were “normal” but the teens years were pretty excruciating. It wasn’t until my deceased son, who had a history of self-medicating with alcohol and drugs, was finally diagnosed with bipolar disorder that he finally got some real help, and that was in the last few years before he died in April. And he never told me he had it—I found out only recently as a result of his disability hearing. He had led a fairly “normal” life of a working class guy up until he reached his 40s and became worse, resulting in a period of homelessness, but his situation was starting to get better, until his heart just gave out. I suspect a lot of people who “self-medicate” that way are suffering from some form of mental illness that could be caught and treated appropriately, if there were resources for them and they were willing to be treated.

Ironically, he had applied for disability in 2011, when he had his first heart attack and he was awarded back benefits from then until his death in April at the last hearing. Too late to help him, but the benefits will be divided between his 2 children.

251 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 4:26:10pm

Although there were some tough times with my grandson, the diagnosis of autism gave us and the schools he attended tools to help him grow through it. He is a great kid who is very careful of what he says, what borders he crosses and has very good anger coping skills.

I’ve gone through the stories of how I screwed up because of my social ignorance and he so far has taken those stories and developed coping methods to overcome them.

I find it difficult to understand how Chuckie can be diagnosed with ASD and still have no social coping strategies at all.

252 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 4:26:43pm

re: #247 BigPapa

Between that and the Panda Chows I have to take a walk, in tears.

ditto!!!

253 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 4:27:13pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck has realized there’s a huge element of the right wing base that really hates and demonizes Muslims and he’s starting to tap into it.

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Wait, I thought it was all Obama’s, Eric Holder’s and Al Sharpton’s fault - oh, and Bill DeBlasio. Can’t forget him. Now it’s Islam?

Can’t tell the players without a program anymore.

254 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:30:08pm

Editor’s note: @NBCLA is reporting that Los Angeles airport terminal has been evacuated after a luggage screening machine showed an ‘object resembling a hand grenade.’ This detail hasn’t been confirmed. A bomb squad is investigating. - Jillian
end of note

255 Kid A  Dec 23, 2014 4:30:52pm

Shot this on Sunday after Watt got his nose busted up.

256 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 4:30:57pm

re: #245 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well put. People who haven’t parented special needs children rarely understand the times of despair and the thousands of disheartening moments that are part of raising one. I can understand why some parents do terrible things or just give up.

Yeah. I love my sons, but it’s wearing. I still find myself grieving for the normal kids my sons never got to be. You worry about your kids anyway. Special needs kids, you worry about more, and forever.

257 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:31:29pm

re: #250 Justanotherhuman

I agree that many who self-medicate are likely suffering from treatable conditions. All the more sad because men still seem to have trouble admitting that they are suffering if the suffering isn’t physical. My heart goes out to you.

258 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 23, 2014 4:37:11pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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It was only a matter of time, wasn’t it?

259 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 4:37:28pm

re: #257 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I agree that many who self-medicate are likely suffering from treatable conditions. All the more sad because men still seem to have trouble admitting that they are suffering if the suffering isn’t physical. My heart goes out to you.

The message one gets from the culture is so much “you just need to try harder” that it’s impossible not to internalize it. And that’s for everyone. Add to that the ‘Suck it up, walk it off’ message we get as men from the earliest age, and even I find it hard to go to the doctor about actual physical issues, let alone emotional/mental ones.

Our younger boy, who has everything the older boy has, but not so severely, suffered for a long time under OUR illusion that he was “normal”. His brother’s issues occupied our minds so much that we ascribed the younger one’s paralyzing anxieties to laziness and kept telling him to try harder.

260 Dr. Matt  Dec 23, 2014 4:38:36pm
261 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:40:50pm

re: #257 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I agree that many who self-medicate are likely suffering from treatable conditions. All the more sad because men still seem to have trouble admitting that they are suffering if the suffering isn’t physical. My heart goes out to you.

Thanks. It’s pretty obvious that there are quite a few out there, self-medicating or not, as we have noted time and again on this site, that apparently don’t think anything is wrong with them. I would include some who’ve been posted about, and those we read about in the news, even the shooter of the 2 NYC cops. His mother even said she thought he had suffered from “mental problems” and wasn’t taking medication. Holmes, Lanza, and other mass killers would probably fit into the same category.

262 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 23, 2014 4:41:24pm

Here is the thing, when an Islamic radical does something like this, they usually mention why they’re doing this (their interpretation of Islam). They’re not shy about this, on the contrary. Obviously nothing like this happened here.

263 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 4:42:44pm

re: #255 Kid A

Shot this on Sunday after Watt got his nose busted up.

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What a great photo. Does squirting water on it cure a banged up nose?

264 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:44:34pm

Officials warn that storm causing flash floods in Tallahassee, Fla., area is ‘life threatening situation’ - @NWS
forecast.weather.gov

That storm is wending its way up the East Coast folks. Expect downpours.

265 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 4:46:30pm

re: #255 Kid A

Shot this on Sunday after Watt got his nose busted up.

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Excellent. Hope it was picked up.

266 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 4:47:34pm

Hahahaha!

I saw this guy as a contestant on Jeopardy a week or two ago.

267 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 4:48:11pm

Oh, the anti-Muslim hate is still going strong today? and now coming form Upchuck? Imagine my surprise. //

It’s low-hanging fruit. Islam is very unpopular and , apart form CAIR, Muslims have no large, well-organized group to look out for their interests. As I’m sure you all know, CAIR was slimed by the “unindicted coconspirator” thing (along with a couple of other groups).

What you may not know is that almost no one seems to have reported that the status was expunged and the records unsealed. Oddly enough—yes, I’m being sarcastic—this got almost no press. If you try to Google it you’ll have to pick trough a ton of right-wing misinformation and outright disinformation. The funny part? The most comprehensive articles I found that detail what happened, belong to the JTA (Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

Solis rejected the groups’ request that he strike references to them as unindicted co-conspirators, but that’s because the term has two meanings: One is a designation used to abide by federal rules of evidence governing the use in court of conspirators’ statements. The other, Solis says, citing precedent, is used to serve the legitimate interest in “stigmatizing private citizens as criminals while not naming them as defendants.”

Solis slots the three groups in the former category, not the latter — which is why he faults the government for publicly naming the groups as unindicted co-conspirators, instead of referring to them in public documents as “other persons” or otherwise protecting their identities. (It is also explains, presumably, why he sealed his decision in the first place; the appellate court appears to regard the sealing as having a barn door effect: Now that it’s out there, better to unseal the decision and make its reasoning clear.)

Say realtor Smith had a partner named Jones who defrauded clients. The government might name Smith an unindicted co-conspirator under two circumstances: If the government believed Smith was knowingly complicit, but chose not to bring him to trial, it could, under the precedent cited by Solis, publicly name Smith as an “unindicted co-conspirator,” because it would be in the public interest to know that Smith knowingly allowed fraud to take place, even if he was not directly incriminated.

On the other hand, under federal rules, the government could also designate Smith an “unindicted co-conspirator” as a means of using statements by Smith that might otherwise be disallowed as hearsay. Making Smith a conspirator means Jones cannot challenge Smith’s account of an event where Jones was not present, because they were both complicit in the crime, even if Smith was unwittingly so. Smith, for instance, could describe his business conversation with a victim without Jones saying that the conversation did not involve him and is therefore immaterial. The government in this case, under precedent cited by Solis, would be required to do its best to keep Smith’s name under wraps to preserve his Fifth Amendment protection against incrimination without redress. […]

jta.org

As the same author says in a later article on the subject:

I’m not defending CAIR, or ISNA or NAIT. I’m defending the rights of interest groups not to be smeared and persecuted by powerful government officials with vivid imaginations.

That’s exactly what happened in the AIPAC officials’ spying case, when manipulations employed by powerful interests within the U.S. government thought it was OK to criminalize AIPAC without regard for the constitution or First and Sixth Amendment protections.

These extend to all. […]

jta.org

The associated articles & documents linked it to in both articles make the whole thing pretty clear for anyone who cares enough to try to get at the truth of the matter.

So back on topic. The haters have done quite a good job, and the fact that some on the left as well as the right have assured people that anti-Muslim bigotry is acceptable because, “9/11! Al Qaeda! The Muslim Brotherhood! ISIS! etc.” doesn’t exactly help. This crap has gotten really old.

268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 23, 2014 4:48:22pm

Meanwhile the number of Chuck’s followers rises steadily. He’s a wingnut magnet.

269 BeachDem  Dec 23, 2014 4:48:26pm

Just when you thought South Carolina couldn’t be any more insane:

…Palmetto State public-school students of all ages would learn about their right to bear arms in lessons designed by the pro-gun National Rifle Association…

Under Clemmons’ proposal… all S.C. students would spend a period every day for three weeks on the topic. Parents could ask to have their children sit out of the lessons.

The required learning would correspond with a newly designated “Second Amendment Awareness Day” Dec. 15 - the day after gunman Adam Lanza massacred 20 children and six educators at the Sandy Hook school…

Students would ponder what forefathers meant by “arms” - muskets or AR-15s? They would discuss the constitutionality of gun laws and “the underlying causes of gun violence, including mass shootings.”

The bill also would ban teachers from discouraging or punishing “political, written, or artistic expression that includes references to guns or a militia.”

Clemmons’ bill would require the gun-control-fighting National Rifle Association write or recommend the course content.

thestate.com

Anybody have any thoughts on the best way to fight this lunacy? I’d appreciate any ideas. Sigh.

270 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 4:48:39pm

re: #266 b.d.

Hahahaha!

I saw this guy as a contestant on Jeopardy a week or two ago.

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routed.

Chuck is illiterate.

271 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:49:18pm

re: #266 b.d.

“routed”?

272 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:50:27pm

re: #270 #FergusonFireside

Missed it by that much. Damned arthritic fingers.

273 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:51:10pm

{Sigh}

274 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 4:51:14pm

re: #270 #FergusonFireside

routed.

Chuck is illiterate.

He said routed, believes he said rooted but meant rotted.

275 BeachDem  Dec 23, 2014 4:52:14pm

re: #272 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Missed it by

much. Damned arthritic fingers.

Jump back in with “knowingly false?” WTF

276 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 4:53:02pm

re: #270 #FergusonFireside

routed.

Chuck is illiterate.

That is a 150+ IQ point way of saying rooted

277 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 4:53:07pm

re: #275 BeachDem

Jump back in with “knowingly false?” WTF

I think Chuckie is trying to sound like Yoda and failing.

278 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:53:54pm

Officials determine device that caused evacuation of Los Angeles airport terminal is ‘inert;’ terminals being re-populated - @anblanx
end of alert

279 compound_Idaho  Dec 23, 2014 4:54:16pm

re: #269 BeachDem

I learned firearm safety in the public schools. The firing range was in the high school. I guess times have changed.

280 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 23, 2014 4:54:19pm

re: #275 BeachDem

Jump back in with “knowingly false?” WTF

We mere mortals are unable to understand Chuckspeak.

281 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 4:57:32pm

re: #279 compound_Idaho

I learned firearm safety in the public schools. The firing range was in the high school. I guess times have changed.

My sons learned rifle safety and how to fire one at summer camp. Still, I never bought them one and they never requested one, either. City kids who had other fish to fry. : )

282 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 4:59:31pm

Pardon the super-long comment, but I’ve been dealing with this shit since this morning. It’s getting old and I’m getting seriously cranky.

According to a sizable contingent that includes people in positions of power, every time a Muslim does something bad anywhere in the world, regardless of whether s/he was motivated by Islam or not, the entire religion and all it’s followers shoulder the blame. It’s ridiculous & not at all indicative of critical thinking.

I get annoyed when our supposedly modern, enlightened, rational society behaves not much differently than pre-Enlightnement societies mired in ignorance did hundreds of years ago.

283 BeachDem  Dec 23, 2014 5:00:08pm

re: #279 compound_Idaho

I learned firearm safety in the public schools. The firing range was in the high school. I guess times have changed.

This bill has nothing to do with firearm safety.

284 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 5:00:31pm

re: #270 #FergusonFireside

routed.

Chuck is illiterate.

How dare you call Chuck illiterate!!!

Me thinks Chuck is rattled

285 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:01:23pm

re: #279 compound_Idaho

I learned firearm safety in the public schools. The firing range was in the high school. I guess times have changed.

I didn’t see references to learning about gun safety, just about their “right to bear arms.”

286 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:01:26pm

re: #281 Justanotherhuman

My sons learned rifle safety and how to fire one at summer camp. Still, I never bought them one and they never requested one, either. City kids who had other fish to fry. : )

I learned rifle safety when I was 11 or 12. What I didn’t learn was lead safety.

I used to collect the lead from the shooting range sand cliff and melt it down in a kitchen pot on the stove.

287 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:02:01pm

re: #282 CuriousLurker

Pardon the super-long comment, but I’ve been dealing with this shit since this morning. It’s getting old and I’m getting seriously cranky.

According to a sizable contingent that includes people in positions of power, every time a Muslim does something bad anywhere in the world, regardless of whether s/he was motivated by Islam or not, the entire religion and all it’s followers shoulder the blame. It’s ridiculous & not at all indicative of critical thinking.

I get annoyed when our supposedly modern, enlightened, rational society behaves not much differently than pre-Enlightnement societies mired in ignorance did hundreds of years ago.

{{{ CL }}}

288 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:03:18pm

Here’s a gorgeous concept: building a glass cabin out in the woods and doing stained glass for all the windows.

Send help, I do not need a hobby of stained glass.

289 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:03:19pm

re: #287 b_sharp

Thanks. Believe it or not, that actually helps a little.

290 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 23, 2014 5:05:09pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

The “unindicted co-conspirator” thing is only justified when the person has immunity (e.g. a President). Otherwise - “put up, or shut up”.

291 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:06:24pm

Every time I think about it I’m blown away by the diversity here.

292 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:07:33pm

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Thanks. Believe it or not, that actually helps a little.

Even though I’m a godless atheist?

Good.

293 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:09:24pm

re: #288 klystron

Here’s a gorgeous concept: building a glass cabin out in the woods and doing stained glass for all the windows.

Send help, I do not need a hobby of stained glass.

Made me immedietly think of my favorite, Phillip Johnson’s Glass House.

I.Love.This.House.

theglasshouse.org

I need to look up how to insert photos on my chromebook. I’ve been lazy.

294 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 5:09:40pm
295 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:09:44pm

re: #292 b_sharp

Even though I’m a godless atheist?

Good.

Yep, even though. *grin*

296 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:10:45pm

re: #293 #FergusonFireside

Made me immedietly think of my favorite, Phillip Johnson’s Glass House.

I.Love.This.House.

theglasshouse.org

I need to look up how to insert photos on my chromebook. I’ve been lazy.

Whoaaaa, and I thought the one klys posted exposed a lot! O_O

297 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:11:26pm

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

298 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:13:29pm

re: #297 klystron

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Oh, wow. Impressive on both counts.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

On the 24th? You’ve gotta be kidding. Not me, no way…

299 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:13:54pm

re: #282 CuriousLurker

There are a lot of us out here who understand the concept that people who are members of different groups remain individuals who are as good/bad/smart/stupid/etc. as everybody else. We just don’t get a lot of press-or spend our time tweeting stupidly.

Hang in there.

300 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:14:33pm

re: #298 CuriousLurker

Oh, wow. Impressive on both counts.

On the 24th? You’ve gotta be kidding. Not me, no way…

That’s what my mother said too. ;_;

Not that it matters, since she is home and not here. But.

301 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 5:14:56pm

re: #297 klystron

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

Knock ‘em dead at the concert and I am afraid that there ain’t enough money on earth to make me go to any business establishment tomorrow.

302 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:14:56pm

re: #293 #FergusonFireside

Made me immedietly think of my favorite, Phillip Johnson’s Glass House.

I.Love.This.House.

theglasshouse.org

I need to look up how to insert photos on my chromebook. I’ve been lazy.

Must kill a lot of birds who think they can fly through it.

303 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:15:31pm

re: #299 calochortus

There are a lot of us out here who understand the concept that people who are members of different groups remain individuals who are as good/bad/smart/stupid/etc. as everybody else. We just don’t get a lot of press-or spend our time tweeting stupidly.

QFT

Hang in there.

Thanks, I’m trying. ;)

304 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:16:13pm

re: #297 klystron

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

Umm, sure. I’ll be happy to pick some stuff up for you, but you’ll have to drive up here to pick it up from me. I need to pick up some stuff, so I’ll be going anyway.

305 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:16:18pm

re: #297 klystron

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

I went today, was going to buy a ham and scalloped potatoes for the Christmas dinner. It’s just me, and the smallest ham was 17.00. Seemed ridic, so probably just scalloped potatoes and tomatoes. Unless I get all weird about it and go out again tomorrow.

306 dog philosopher  Dec 23, 2014 5:16:42pm

re: #297 klystron

I perform in a harp concert in slightly over 2 hours.

My Christmas shopping is at least complete.

Except for the grocery store. Who wants to go to the grocery store for me tomorrow?

i like to perform as the harp so i can get plucked

307 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:17:10pm

I need a cuppa Joe. BBIAB

308 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 5:18:10pm

re: #307 CuriousLurker

I need a cuppa Joe. BBIAB

Make it a good one and please try and forget the idiots

309 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:18:16pm

re: #306 dog philosopher

i like to perform as the harp so i can get plucked

So you’re saying you’re feeling plucky?

310 dog philosopher  Dec 23, 2014 5:18:33pm

they told me i desperately needed some goals in life and that i should get professional help

so i hired a goalie

311 dog philosopher  Dec 23, 2014 5:19:22pm

re: #309 klystron

So you’re saying you’re feeling plucky?

it’s better than feeling all plucked up

312 TedStriker  Dec 23, 2014 5:19:48pm

re: #283 BeachDem

This bill has nothing to do with firearm safety.

re: #285 klystron

I didn’t see references to learning about gun safety, just about their “right to bear arms.”

Precisely…just look at the date they picked for their “Second Amendment Awareness Day”, because it’s no accident that they picked the date after the Sandy Hook anniversary.

It’s a giant “fuck you” to those affected at Newtown, Aurora, and other countless scenes of meaningless bloodshed, as well to pro-gun control folks, all because the gun fuckers can.

313 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:19:55pm
314 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:20:01pm

We had our “Christmas Eve” dinner last night (that’s when everyone could come.) Tonight we have leftovers, but then I need to have something to eat for the next couple days. The grocery stores will be open on Christmas, but even though we won’t actually be engaging in any festivities (that will be later, when everyone can actually get together) I won’t go to the store on Christmas. Most of those employees should be home with their families, and I don’t want to encourage the management to think there’s a reason to be open.

315 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:23:56pm

re: #306 dog philosopher

i like to perform as the harp so i can get plucked

Stop stringing us along.

316 BeachDem  Dec 23, 2014 5:24:13pm

re: #312 TedStriker

Precisely…just look at the date they picked for their “Second Amendment Awareness Day”, because it’s no accident that they picked the date after the Sandy Hook anniversary.

It’s a giant “fuck you” to those affected at Newtown, Aurora, and the scenes of meaningless bloodshed, all because they can.

Right now, it’s just a pre-filed bill. Not sure if he’s really serious or just being his usual asshole self. (He was the notorious zombie-voter mouthpiece and is a total asshat—my rep, of course.)

We’re just trying to figure out the best way to go after it if his bill gets any kind of support in the house. He can’t be shamed, because he has no shame, so there has to be some way to approach how moronic it is without getting into a pissing contest.

317 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:25:09pm
318 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:26:27pm

re: #315 b_sharp

Stop stringing us along.

You just need to tune us out…

319 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:27:28pm

looking for humor right now

320 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:27:41pm

re: #318 klystron

You just need to tune us out…

Just send us some good vibrations.

321 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 5:28:30pm

re: #282 CuriousLurker

I love you and yours, Curious. : )

(From another godless atheist.)

322 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 5:30:20pm

re: #305 #FergusonFireside

I went today, was going to buy a ham and scalloped potatoes for the Christmas dinner. It’s just me, and the smallest ham was 17.00. Seemed ridic, so probably just scalloped potatoes and tomatoes. Unless I get all weird about it and go out again tomorrow.

Get a ham steak. : )

323 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:31:47pm

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

Get a ham steak. : )

Ha!

324 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:33:18pm

I may be a godless atheist but I’m not a chocolateless atheist.

325 Justanotherhuman  Dec 23, 2014 5:33:38pm

Keep calm and carry on, Lizards! And Happy Holidays to all who celebrate them. : )

326 klystron  Dec 23, 2014 5:36:17pm

You know, if I was going to nearly die after drinking eggnog, I’d hope it was at least the good stuff.

A Utah man says he’s fully recovered after he was hospitalized for chugging a quart of eggnog so quickly that he inhaled some of creamy holiday beverage into his lungs.

Ryan Roche from Utah County told KSL-TV that he participated in an alcohol-free eggnog chugging contest at a holiday office party earlier this month.

327 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:36:48pm
328 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:38:20pm

re: #326 klystron

You know, if I was going to nearly die after drinking eggnog, I’d hope it was at least the good stuff.

If you’re going to drink it that fast, it should just be the cheap stuff. You won’t be able to taste it anyway.

329 dog philosopher  Dec 23, 2014 5:40:55pm

re: #321 Justanotherhuman

I love you and yours, Curious. : )

(From another godless atheist.)

my atheist winter solstice greetings:

share love with your family and friends this holiday season since we are living on a small fragile planet lost in an infinite meaningless void and that can be kind of scary at times unless you have your arm around somebody and maybe a festive spirituous libation wouldn’t hurt as well

be nice to strangers, too, since we all know this is the right thing to do and even though probably nobody will ever hold you to account here or after you’re dead for any meanness that makes another person’s life a little darker, the real reason you don’t do mean things is that you will have trouble living with your conscience if you do it

i mean you would feel really unhappy about it, wouldn’t you?

and don’t forget to look up into the sky and have your breath taken away by how unbelievably beautiful it is with all those so unimaginably far distant fireballs swirling around up there obeying the laws of gravity and stuff and having incredible eons long super neat amazing combustion lifecycles and how cool is physics after all just learning about it just makes you realize how amazing and miraculous and full of wonder the universe is just by itself even if you only use the math

330 b.d.  Dec 23, 2014 5:43:35pm

re: #305 #FergusonFireside

I went today, was going to buy a ham and scalloped potatoes for the Christmas dinner. It’s just me, and the smallest ham was 17.00. Seemed ridic, so probably just scalloped potatoes and tomatoes. Unless I get all weird about it and go out again tomorrow.

This time of year you can sometimes find them on sale.

331 b_sharp  Dec 23, 2014 5:43:48pm

re: #329 dog philosopher

my atheist winter solstice greetings:

share love with your family and friends this holiday season since we are living on a small fragile planet lost in an infinite meaningless void and that can be kind of scary at times unless you have your arm around somebody and maybe a festive spirituous libation wouldn’t hurt as well

be nice to strangers, too, since we all know this is the right thing to do and even though probably nobody will ever hold you to account here or after you’re dead for any meanness that makes another person’s life a little darker, the real reason is that you will have trouble living with your conscience if you do it

i mean you would feel really unhappy about it, wouldn’t you?

and don’t forget to look up into the sky and have your breath taken away by how unbelievably beautiful it is with all those so unimaginably far distant fireballs swirling around up there obeying the laws of gravity and stuff and having incredible eons long super neat amazing combustion lifecycles and how cool is physics after all just learning about it just makes you realize how amazing and miraculous and full of wonder the universe is just by itself even if you only use the math

Sometimes even philosopher dogs make a lot of sense.

332 calochortus  Dec 23, 2014 5:45:02pm

re: #329 dog philosopher

We only go around once. We should try to do it right the first (and only) time.

333 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #330 b.d.

This time of year you can sometimes find them on sale.

Embedded Image

haha. I’ll go to another store tomorrow. Because, I really want ham (steak if I must)

334 A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2014 5:46:08pm

re: #255 Kid A

Nice! My first thought was “wow, he really has a drinking problem….”

335 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2014 5:46:17pm

re: #330 b.d.

This time of year you can sometimes find them on sale.

[Embedded content]

hahahaha!

336 CuriousLurker  Dec 23, 2014 5:51:00pm

re: #308 b.d.

Make it a good one and please try and forget the idiots

I’m working on the second part, thanks.

re: #321 Justanotherhuman

I love you and yours, Curious. : )

(From another godless atheist.)

Right back atchya. ;)

337 #FergusonFireside  Dec 23, 2014 5:59:16pm
I got unlazy and learned how to save photos. The Glass House.
338 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2014 6:52:02pm

re: #337 #FergusonFireside

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I’d feel like I was in a fishbowl.


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