BREAKING: In 1999, Rep. Steve Scalise Embraced David Duke’s “Conservative” Views

Interesting.
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On Jan. 7, 1999 John Mercurio, who used to cover congressional races for Roll Call, published an article entitled “Duke aims for Livingston seat,” which currently seems to be accessible only through a Usenet copy (as a part of “Antifa Info-Bulletin,” among unrelated articles and news items).

Mercurio surveys the views of local politicians on David Duke, among them - Steve Scalise:

Another potential candidate, state Rep. Steve Scalise (R), said he embraces many of the same “conservative” views as Duke, but is far more viable.

“The novelty of David Duke has worn off,” said Scalise. “The voters in this district are smart enough to realize that they need to get behind someone who not only believes in the issues they care about, but also can get elected. Duke has proven that he can’t get elected, and that’s the first and most important thing.”

A few things are notable here. First of all, of course, Scalise knew who Duke was (so his excuses about not recognizing the nature of Duke’s organization ring hollow). But the language he uses is also telling. The only problem with Duke for Scalise is that he is unelectable - not that he’s a neo-Nazi. And Scalise even says for whatever reason that he embraces many of Duke’s views…

Update: Roll Call has now posted the article on their blog.

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326 comments

1 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 3:16:37pm

I had to put the word “Breaking” in this headline, because it really is breaking news nobody else has yet. Great find, Sergey.

2 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2014 3:17:28pm

“Who cares what happened 12-15 years ago!!!”

3 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:19:26pm

I’m uncomfortable with the word “praised”.

4 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:20:49pm

Typical.

Duke said he’ll focus his campaign on promises to “outlaw
affirmative action programs that discriminate against European
Americans, shut down illegal immigration and take a time out on
legal immigration.” He said he would also actively oppose efforts
by Puerto Rico to acquire statehood.

Duke, the founder and former president of the National
Association for the Advancement of White People, has provoked
passionate reactions from every corner of the political spectrum
since he vaulted onto the national scene in the late 1980s.

He made headlines when he acknowledged sympathizing with
Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, but won votes
by talking to
constituents about issues more relevant to their daily lives,
like taxes, welfare reform and racial quotas.

5 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 3:21:12pm

re: #3 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I think it’s a fair characterization - but I changed it back to “embraced” because that’s the language in the piece. But “embracing” is pretty much the same as “praising,” don’t you think?

6 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:23:06pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I see a difference there. “Praised DD’s views” reads like “praised Duke”, even if it doesn’t literally say that.

7 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:25:37pm

Excellent excellent research. So Scalise was fine with Duke’s views. He just didn’t think he was viable as a candidate.

8 darthstar  Dec 29, 2014 3:27:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I think it’s a fair characterization - but I changed it back to “embraced” because that’s the language in the piece. But “embracing” is pretty much the same as “praising,” don’t you think?

This is an embrace:

This is praise

9 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:30:24pm

Mad props to whoever exposed this bit about Scalise in the first place.

10 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 3:30:39pm
11 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:30:48pm

re: #8 darthstar

This is an embrace:

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This is praise

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I’d rather have that tiger be my Congressman than David Duke fanboy Scalise.

12 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 3:31:38pm

So if Scalise didn’t know anything about David Duke, why was even at the event? Do politicians typically show up to speak at events hosted by people that don’t have any particular notoriety of any kind?

The bullshit detector could be orbiting the planet and still pick up on this nonsense…

13 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:31:42pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Knew he was lying. You don’t get involved in Louisiana politics during that era and not know who David Duke is. He had ran for governor and senator.

14 Kragar  Dec 29, 2014 3:31:50pm
15 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:32:03pm

re: #12 Mike Lamb

So if Scalise didn’t know anything about David Duke, why was even at the event? Do politicians typically show up to speak at events hosted by people that don’t have any particular notoriety of any kind?

The bullshit detector could be orbiting the planet and still pick up on this nonsense…

Hey, he heard they were a concerned conservative organization so he had to speak.//

16 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 3:32:47pm

So is this resignation-worthy? I know being GOP means never having to say you are sorry, but this really is a big fucking deal. Way worse than Weiner’s weiner.

17 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:33:10pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Precisely and this is pretty fucking rich from Chuckles who is trying to use the views of Bill DeBlasio’s father to character assassinate Bill DeBlasio’s views on the police now. Chuckles is just showing again why he’s a pathetic hack.

18 RealityBasedSteve  Dec 29, 2014 3:33:14pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I’d rather have that tiger be my Congressman than David Duke fanboy Scalise.

In all honesty, I’d rather have Cthulhu as my congressman. At least then you’re dealing with open evil, not slickly packaged and manicured evil.

19 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:34:02pm

re: #16 Mike Lamb

So is this resignation-worthy? I know being GOP means never having to say you are sorry, but this really is a big fucking deal. Way worse than Weiner’s weiner.

I suspect- he’ll resign from the leadership position he got but I can’t see him stepping down from his seat. I bet Boehner wishes he would get out though in a heartbeat. This is really embarrassing for that party.

20 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:34:31pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Knew he was lying. You don’t get involved in Louisiana politics during that era and not know who David Duke is. He had ran for governor and senator.

Strictly speaking, he doesn’t say that he didn’t know Duke, only EURO (so I used weaker language in the page). But of course, this excuse is laughable, because Duke’s name would be everywhere, including the program of the workshop. (Plus there’s the fact of Duke’s speech there.)

21 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:34:33pm

re: #18 RealityBasedSteve

In all honesty, I’d rather have Cthulhu as my congressman. At least then you’re dealing with open evil, not slickly packaged and manicured evil.

I imagine Cthulhu would have a similar slogan to Edwin Edwards.

22 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:34:56pm

re: #20 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Strictly speaking, he doesn’t say that he didn’t know Duke, only EURO (so I used weaker language in the page). But of course, this excuse is laughable, because Duke’s name would be everywhere, including the program of the workshop. (Plus there’s the fact of Duke’s speech there.)

Right.

23 Shazam  Dec 29, 2014 3:35:19pm

re: #18 RealityBasedSteve

In all honesty, I’d rather have Cthulhu as my congressman. At least then you’re dealing with open evil, not slickly packaged and manicured evil.

Cthulhu isn’t evil, he exists above human concepts like morality. Old Gods are merely disinterested, not evil. So, like every other politician.

24 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 3:35:27pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Keep going, Chuck. Do whatever you can to keep this story alive and in the public view. Try to find false equivalencies where you keep referencing the fact that Scalise was a keynote speaker at an event for an overtly racist and anti-Semitic organization. Please keep reminding people of this story.

Don’t do the smart thing, which would be to run like hell from this guy, and hope the story dies a quiet death. You need the page clicks. Go man, go!!

25 Kragar  Dec 29, 2014 3:35:39pm
26 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:36:33pm

re: #25 Kragar

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Yes, Al Sharpton is worse than David fucking Duke. Please keep on playing that card conservatives and please wonder why most people who aren’t bitter old white racists want nothing to do with your ideology and party.

27 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 3:37:27pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I imagine Cthulhu would have a similar slogan to Edwin Edwards.

Yes, but Cthulhu is less entertaining that former Gov. Edwards. Actually, Edwards ran for Congress this year down in Louisiana. He lost the runoff for his district, but it was fun watching him run.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 3:37:35pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Lewis Carroll’s characters in Alice in Wonderland would have great fun ripping apart the weak logic in that false comparison.

29 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:38:42pm

You know the truth is and why I suspect Chuckles is doubling down on defending him so much is because deep down he knows what many of us already know and that’s that David Duke’s message of white supremacism had quite a bit of appeal to Louisiana conservatives. David Duke got over 40% of the vote in both his runs for high office there.

30 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:38:44pm

re: #2 GlutenFreeJesus

“Who cares what happened 12-15 years ago!!!”

9/11 was 12-15 years ago.

Yes, I feel old.

31 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 3:39:30pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lewis Carroll’s characters in Alice in Wonderland would have great fun ripping apart the weak logic in that false comparison.

UpChuck’s been consulting Joe Mccarthy’s Book of Political Labeling. No wonder he went after de Balasio’s father.

32 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:39:32pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but Cthulhu is less entertaining that former Gov. Edwards. Actually, Edwards ran for Congress this year down in Louisiana. He lost the runoff for his district, but it was fun watching him run.

I know, I just imagined Cthulhu’s ads and had a good chuckle about it.

33 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:39:42pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I’d rather have that tiger be my Congressman than David Duke fanboy Scalise.

You always know where you stand with a Tiger.

34 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:40:00pm

re: #33 FemNaziBitch

You always know where you stand with a Tiger.

They’re greeeeeeeeeeeat!

35 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:40:38pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Knew he was lying. You don’t get involved in Louisiana politics during that era and not know who David Duke is. He had ran for governor and senator.

FTFY

36 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 3:40:57pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

They’re greeeeeeeeeeeat!

And you’re breakfast.

37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:41:16pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a difference, of course, in that even commies are not that stained. Racist conferences = ultimate no-no, unless doing research. Commie conference? Can be fun to look at the weirdos. There’s no fun in looking at skinheads tho, plus it’s downright dangerous.

38 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:41:39pm

re: #36 calochortus

And you’re breakfast.

Yeah somehow I think Tony given the choice would prefer the consumers of Frosted Flakes over the flakes themselves.

39 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 3:42:09pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Yeah somehow I think Tony given the choice would prefer the consumers of Frosted Flakes over the flakes themselves.

More protein.

40 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:42:44pm

re: #39 calochortus

More protein.

better texture.

41 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 29, 2014 3:42:58pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lewis Carroll’s characters in Alice in Wonderland would have great fun ripping apart the weak logic in that false comparison.

That’s easy: while some may poop on the floor there’s only one CCJ.

42 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:44:03pm
43 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 3:44:51pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

You know the truth is and why I suspect Chuckles is doubling down on defending him so much is because deep down he knows what many of us already know and that’s that David Duke’s message of white supremacism had quite a bit of appeal to Louisiana conservatives. David Duke got over 40% of the vote in both his runs for high office there.

He’s doubling down because Chuck is a racist. You can’t post what he does without having racist tendencies.

44 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:44:53pm

Scalise’s words in the original Roll Call article remind me of what Lee Atwater said. You start out by saying n-word, n-word. Then when that doesn’t work. You start talking about busing. And then when that doesn’t work, you start talking about lower taxes and welfare. So in short I see Scalise much like his fellow Louisianan, Tony Perkins who is someone who would be happy to get the votes and support of Duke supporters.

45 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:45:22pm

re: #43 Mike Lamb

He’s doubling down because Chuck is a racist. You can’t post what he does without having racist tendencies.

Indeed.

46 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:45:56pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

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Hey, Girl, I’m a guy who worships a philosophy that glamorizes selfishness, now make me a sandwich.//

47 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 3:46:20pm

He’s trending!

48 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 3:46:36pm
49 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:47:25pm

re: #48 Gus

Oooh, a trendy politician!

50 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:47:28pm

You know, after 50 years I think I have finally figured out a basic truth. It takes me a while to grasp the basic and simple:

For men, sex and orgasm are synonymous.

Many idiots don’t realize it’s NOT the same for women.

These men don’t understand when “that slut spread her legs, what did she expect” doesn’t resonate with women.

In fact, it really, really pisses them off.

*sigh*

51 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 3:47:57pm

Hilarious.

52 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 3:48:20pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Hey, Girl, I’m a guy who worships a philosophy that glamorizes selfishness, now make me a sandwich.//

Sorry, I’m too selfish to do that for you.
/

53 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:49:08pm

re: #52 calochortus

Sorry, I’m too selfish to do that for you.
/

Yeah, that is the answer my husband would expect.

He knows better.

54 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 3:50:04pm

re: #53 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, that is the answer my husband would expect.

He knows better.

Smart man.

55 HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2014 3:51:24pm

re: #51 Gus

Hilarious.

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A typical conservative victim of the big bad liberal smear machine.

56 dog philosopher  Dec 29, 2014 3:51:58pm

if you’ve really ‘embraced’ some views, you ought to be able to smell their perfume on your lapels

57 teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2014 3:53:15pm
58 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 3:53:20pm
59 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 3:53:47pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I imagine Cthulhu would have a similar slogan to Edwin Edwards.

Cthulhu for President 2016: Why vote for the lesser of two evils?

60 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 3:54:48pm
61 Kragar  Dec 29, 2014 3:55:33pm
62 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 3:56:20pm

What a coop for Politco:

More often than not they have their own moral code of behavior, an “us against them” attitude, enforced by a Blue Wall of Silence. It’s their version of the Mafia’s omerta. Speak out, and you’re no longer “one of us.” You’re one of “them.”

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63 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 3:56:42pm
64 dog philosopher  Dec 29, 2014 3:56:45pm

Top Republican doesn’t deny speech to white supremacist group

i think the usual next step in these things is for the politician to ‘explain’ away the incident in such a way that he lets slip some indication of what a fuckhead he really is, and so starts off a new round of controversy

65 Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2014 3:58:41pm
66 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 3:58:46pm

Byrd and Sharpton is all they got.

67 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 3:59:49pm

Where are the [vetting] jobs - Boehner

68 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 4:01:13pm

re: #51 Gus

Hilarious.

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Go guys, go! Stick close to him. Keep defending him. You can do it!

69 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:01:20pm

re: #33 FemNaziBitch

You always know where you stand with a Tiger.

Yeah, you’re toast unless you’ve got one of these:

70 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:01:25pm

Did Yglesias post the wrong link?

71 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:02:41pm
72 makeitstop  Dec 29, 2014 4:02:59pm

re: #70 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Did Yglesias post the wrong link?

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Sure did.

73 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:03:00pm

re: #70 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Did Yglesias post the wrong link?

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74 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:03:10pm

HURR HURR!!!!

75 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:04:23pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

It is not pro-rape to oppose abortion. You can argue its wrong, sure, but it is not approving of rape.

76 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:04:45pm

LAMEST MAGICAL BALANCE FAIRY SO FAR:

77 Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2014 4:04:58pm

Remind us, what political office does Al Sharpton hold?

78 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:05:11pm

Son of Erick does make a good point:

And the very GOP establishment now lining up behind Steve Scalise threw Chris McDaniel under the bus for speaking to a Sons of the Confederate Veterans event.

79 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:06:13pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

There’s a similar letter from Al Gore. I won’t defend it, but neo-confederates, racist as they are, are not even in the same league as neo-Nazis like Duke.

80 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:06:40pm

re: #77 Dr. Matt

Remind us, what political office does Al Sharpton hold?

SHARPTON!!!!11!! is like their “One Size Fits All” Magical Balance Fairy

81 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 4:06:47pm

OK, I’m all for stripping Al Sharpton of all of his Congressional Leadership jobs.

82 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:07:18pm

re: #81 b.d.

OK, I’m all for stripping Al Sharpton of all of his Congressional Leadership jobs.

And Byrd too.//

83 Iwouldprefernotto  Dec 29, 2014 4:07:26pm

re: #81 b.d.

OK, I’m all for stripping Al Sharpton of all of his Congressional Leadership jobs.

Please don’t use Sharpton and strip in the same sentence.

84 teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2014 4:07:47pm

They’re circling the wagons.

85 gwangung  Dec 29, 2014 4:08:32pm

re: #77 Dr. Matt

Remind us, what political office does Al Sharpton hold?

I dunno….I think white conservatives give Al Sharpton more power in the black community than people within the black community do.

86 Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2014 4:09:18pm
87 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:09:39pm

#tcot has received their talking points.

SHARPTON!!11 AYERS!11!1 WRIGHT!!11!!

88 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:09:51pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

They’re circling the wagons.

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If Grennel and Burge are circling the wagons, they’re leaving Scalise on the outside to face the Indians.

89 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 4:10:16pm

The Ginger Avenger seems to be the only wingnut crazy enough to stick up for Steve Scalise.

90 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:10:22pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

It is not pro-rape to oppose abortion. You can argue its wrong, sure, but it is not approving of rape.

I think you have the wrong end of this particular stick. The statement relates to the idea that any man willing to force himself on a woman is entitled to control her body for the next nine months should she get pregnant. And that the woman should just accept it because she’s probably a slut anyway.

No matter how you feel about the rights of a fetus, you can’t forget that women should have rights as well.

91 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 4:10:33pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

They’re circling the wagons.

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Republican Conference Chairman
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers
Heads organization of all Republican Party members in the House

She is the next in line in leadership and she’s been (wisely) silent on Twitter since before Christmas

92 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:10:52pm

WTF
Alright, it’s into the Block Bucket with this fuckball

93 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 29, 2014 4:12:01pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

re: #85 gwangung

I dunno….I think white conservatives give Al Sharpton more power in the black community than people within the black community do.

He’s the Bill Ayers of black America.

94 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 4:12:18pm

Great post Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD. Got any additional anvils to toss these water treading guys?

95 goddamnedfrank  Dec 29, 2014 4:12:25pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

It is not pro-rape to oppose abortion. You can argue its wrong, sure, but it is not approving of rape.

Opposing abortion in the case of rape effectively legitimizes rape as a procreative method. It results in the genes of rapist’s being passed on against the will of the woman forced to carry their child to term. It’s a tacit condoning of rape itself as a means of reproduction. Saying it’s wrong doesn’t mean much in the long term when you sit idly by and allow it to be rewarded in this way.

96 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:12:31pm

re: #90 calochortus

I think you have the wrong end of this particular stick. The statement relates to the idea that any man willing to force himself on a woman is entitled to control her body for the next nine months should she get pregnant. And that the woman should just accept it because she’s probably a slut anyway.

No matter how you feel about the rights of a fetus, you can’t forget that women should have rights as well.

I don’t take a position on abortion anymore, though I wasn’t trying to say that women don’t have rights. But I don’t think Paul Ryan was saying that either, and I think that tweet unfairly smears him.

97 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:12:40pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

They’re circling the wagons.

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Uh oh! It’s spreading to other topics!

98 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 4:13:24pm

WTFITS==>

99 Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2014 4:15:29pm
100 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:16:01pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

There were a lot of Duke videos on Al Gore’s currentTV site, but that’s because it was poorly or not at all moderated. Cory Booker? I’ll believe it when I see it.

101 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:16:32pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS==>

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A wingnut suffering from terminal cognitive dissonance.

102 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:16:38pm

re: #94 b.d.

Great post Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD. Got any additional anvils to toss these water treading guys?

Waiting for a package from ACME.

103 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:16:40pm
104 teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2014 4:18:10pm
105 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:18:29pm

re: #103 Gus

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Who blow up da’ owl?

106 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:18:32pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

I don’t take a position on abortion anymore, though I wasn’t trying to say that women don’t have rights. But I don’t think Paul Ryan was saying that either, and I think that tweet unfairly smears him.

He doesn’t think rape is a reason to allow abortion* and has cosponsored legislation to allow the rapist to prevent his victim from aborting. He doesn’t say women have no rights at all, but if I cannot control my own body, how many rights do I actually have?

*Actual quote: “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Ryan explained.

107 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:19:02pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

I don’t take a position on abortion anymore, though I wasn’t trying to say that women don’t have rights. But I don’t think Paul Ryan was saying that either, and I think that tweet unfairly smears him.

WHAT, exactly, do you think Paul Ryan was saying?

108 Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2014 4:19:22pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

#tcot has received their talking points.

SHARPTON!!11 AYERS!11!1 WRIGHT!!11!!

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Ya, it was totally ignored, except for the months and months that it wasn’t…

109 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:19:43pm

re: #99 Dr. Matt

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Baby dear be like: “Pretty colors, I wonder what it takes like. “

110 teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2014 4:20:06pm

Vox hat tipped LGF in this article.

111 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:21:31pm
112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 4:22:46pm

re: #106 calochortus

He doesn’t think rape is a reason to allow abortion* and has cosponsored legislation to allow the rapist to prevent his victim from aborting. He doesn’t say women have no rights at all, but if I cannot control my own body, how many rights do I actually have?

*Actual quote: “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Ryan explained.

Not to mention all the states that allow rapists to have unfettered access to their victims because they have rights as “fathers”.

*spit*

113 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:23:25pm

Heh, we were still first.

114 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:23:47pm
115 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:24:20pm

re: #102 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Putin surely loves this next story:

Gone in a flash? The moment car explodes into pieces as LIGHTNING allegedly hits it during high-speed police chase after church robbery

A hair-raising video has emerged that a car full of masked robbers exploding moments after they raided a church in Russia - and witnesses insist they were hit by lightning.

The dash cam footage uploaded by YouTube user World News TV, shows a vehicle speeding along with a police siren sounding in the background.

All of a sudden the car bursts into flames and explodes, sending debris all over the road.

The vehicle filming the incident immediately slows down and pulls over.

According to a caption accompanying the video, everyone in the runaway car died as a result of the electrical bolt.

dailymail.co.uk

116 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:25:48pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not to mention all the states that allow rapists to have unfettered access to their victims because they have rights as “fathers”.

*spit*

Last year, Illinois made this impossible. My husband, when reading the new laws, said, “Well, that was a no brainer.”

Most men get this. Even most Conservative men. It’s the totally whacked out, power-deluded “I have to be the living embodiment of God-Willed Patriarchy” assholes that don’t.

Oh, wait, did I just write a new definition of Sociopathy?

117 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 4:26:20pm

Speaking of holes…

They got around to measuring the infected hole in V’s gut today. It’s 3cm deep and 2cm wide.

118 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:26:33pm

re: #114 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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I thank Roll Call for that. Now I won’t have to bookmark a link that also features an article by the odious cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.

119 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 4:27:09pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

I don’t take a position on abortion anymore, though I wasn’t trying to say that women don’t have rights. But I don’t think Paul Ryan was saying that either, and I think that tweet unfairly smears him.

You may not think that’s what he’s saying, but that’s definitely what he’s doing. Words vs Actions. Both are highly dangerous for women.

120 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:27:26pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Speaking of holes…

They got around to measuring the infected hole in V’s gut today. It’s 3cm deep and 2cm wide.

Ouch.

121 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:29:30pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Speaking of holes…

They got around to measuring the infected hole in V’s gut today. It’s 3cm deep and 2cm wide.

Nasty. Are the antibiotics helping?

122 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 4:29:53pm
123 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:30:10pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Speaking of holes…

They got around to measuring the infected hole in V’s gut today. It’s 3cm deep and 2cm wide.

Ewww. That doesn’t sound like fun.

124 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:30:13pm

re: #119 WhatEVs

You may not think that’s what he’s saying, but that’s definitely what he’s doing. Words vs Actions. Both are highly dangerous for women.

Texas GOP didn’t mean for their new legislation to shut down nearly every abortion facility in Texas, but that was certainly the result.

125 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:30:43pm

{{{{{V and B Sharp}}}}}

126 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 4:31:43pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

Nasty. Are the antibiotics helping?

Finally they seem to be having an effect. She’s been in less pain today than she has in two weeks.

127 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2014 4:32:02pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Speaking of holes…

They got around to measuring the infected hole in V’s gut today. It’s 3cm deep and 2cm wide.

Any word on how she got so infected?

128 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 4:33:16pm

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

Any word on how she got so infected?

Unknown.

She had sepsis (blood poisoning) 7 years ago, so perhaps she’s really prone to it.

129 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:34:08pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Finally they seem to be having an effect. She’s been in less pain today than she has in two weeks.

ask about IV Acetaminophen.

Right after the news about Tylenol being bad hit the news, my girlfriend was in the hospital with gastro-intestinal issues.

They gave her IV Tylenol instead of Valium or other opiate.. I had to laugh.

Anyway, she said it worked well and it bypassed her stomach and intestines, so no risk of damage to those organs.

130 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:34:11pm
131 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:34:19pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Finally they seem to be having an effect. She’s been in less pain today than she has in two weeks.

Thank God (and thank medical science as well). I’ll keep her in my prayers.

132 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 4:36:49pm

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

ask about IV Acetaminophen.

Right after the news about Tylenol being bad hit the news, my girlfriend was in the hospital with gastro-intestinal issues.

They gave her IV Tylenol instead of Valium or other opiate.. I had to laugh.

Anyway, she said it worked well and it bypassed her stomach and intestines, so no risk of damage to those organs.

Getting rid of the infection will go a long way toward getting rid of the pain.

133 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 4:38:02pm

I wonder how many people are trying to call Mia Love and have her come to Scalise’s defense?

134 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:42:11pm

I needed a positive story to perk me up a little and I found one:

Viral ‘Quad Mom’ Ashley Gardner Gives Birth to Quadruplets

t was the shocked expectant mom face seen ‘round the world.

Last fall, Ashley Gardner’s priceless expression went viral when her husband snapped a photo of her as she found out she was pregnant with two sets of identical twins.

Image: ht_quadruplets_1_kab_141003_16x9_992.jpg

And now, after a little more than 29 weeks, the babies have arrived via cesarean section.

“Mom and babies are doing incredible!!!” the family wrote on its Facebook account, A Miracle Unfolding — Gardner Quadruplets. “We are so happy with how everything turned out today! The doctors, nurses, and staff were incredible!! More updates to follow soon!!”

135 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:45:01pm
That’s exactly why Scalise is on the low road back to Washington. To win this election, Scalise needs to hang that “D” around Harlan’s neck loudly and often. Scalise’s current TV ad doesn’t show either him or Harlan. The stars of the spot are Barack Hussein Obama and the Rev. Jermiah Wright. A shadowy (dare I say, “terrorist-y”) shot of Obama appears, then a clip of Rev. Wright, shouting his now-infamous “G-d DAMN America!”

Not only is Scalise aiming to alert voters that he’s running against a Democrat, he’s warning them that his opponent is affiliated with the Eebil Coloreds. Not only are they Eebil Coloreds, but, in Wright’s case, he’s an Eebil Reverend, one of those bible-thumping Protestant-types that make the ethnic-Irish and Italian Catholics of LA-01 nervous.

dailykos.com

136 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:45:30pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

I don’t take a position on abortion anymore, though I wasn’t trying to say that women don’t have rights. But I don’t think Paul Ryan was saying that either, and I think that tweet unfairly smears him.

You don’t think you are taking a position, but you are. You are shrugging your shoulders and saying it’s unimportant what politicians want to do about the question. Would you feel the same way if there was a good percentage of the voting public who wanted to allow the government to force you to, say, donate a kidney upon request? I suspect not.

Speaking as a mother of 2, pregnancy isn’t just a matter of carting a little extra weight around with you. It can make it difficult to impossible to do whatever work one usually does. Side effects include nausea, exhaustion, difficulty standing for long periods of time-especially late in pregnancy, and this is for a normal pregnancy. There are also a variety of conditions that can be life threatening and/or sufficiently debilitating to require quitting a job. For any woman, but particularly a young single woman this can completely derail her life.

There are women who go through pregnancy with flying colors, never feeling better in their lives, but even they should have a choice about whether to literally provide their body for the use of a genetically separate individual.

Full disclosure: I love my children, if I had it to do over, I absolutely would. Pregnancy was not the high point of my life. ;)

edit: I will now step off my soapbox.

137 dog philosopher  Dec 29, 2014 4:47:37pm

it’s the time of year to thank dog that there are no sentimental old new year’s songs

138 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:47:54pm

re: #136 calochortus

No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying “I am currently unable to carve out a coherent position on this issue.”

139 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:50:04pm

re: #136 calochortus

You don’t think you are taking a position, but you are. You are shrugging your shoulders and saying it’s unimportant what politicians want to do about the question. Would you feel the same way if there was a good percentage of the voting public who wanted to allow the government to force you to, say, donate a kidney upon request? I suspect not.

Speaking as a mother of 2, pregnancy isn’t just a matter of carting a little extra weight around with you. It can make it difficult to impossible to do whatever work one usually does. Side effects include nausea, exhaustion, difficulty standing for long periods of time-especially late in pregnancy, and this is for a normal pregnancy. There are also a variety of conditions that can be life threatening and/or sufficiently debilitating to require quitting a job. For any woman, but particularly a young single woman this can completely derail her life.

There are women who go through pregnancy with flying colors, never feeling better in their lives, but even they should have a choice about whether to literally provide their body for the use of a genetically separate individual.

Full disclosure: I love my children, if I had it to do over, I absolutely would. Pregnancy was not the high point of my life. ;)

The unimaginable responsibility of having another life inside you is not something that can be described in words.

And that life’s impact on your life —with every breath you take.

NO MAN CAN FATHOM THIS.

140 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:51:04pm

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

The unimaginable responsibility of having another life inside you is not something that can be described in words.

And that life’s impact on your life —with every breath you take.

NO MAN CAN FATHOM THIS.

QFT

141 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:51:33pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Getting rid of the infection will go a long way toward getting rid of the pain.

AGREED.

Pain and the Medical Community is a personal hot topic for me.

It is difficult for the body to heal while in pain.

YMMV

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 4:51:40pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Finally they seem to be having an effect. She’s been in less pain today than she has in two weeks.

Yay for you and V!

143 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 4:52:01pm

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

The unimaginable responsibility of having another life inside you is not something that can be described in words.

And that life’s impact on your life —with every breath you take.

NO MAN CAN FATHOM THIS.

And sick as it is to say this, I’m glad its something I don’t have to think about. I’m already neurotic, and I have trouble sometimes just taking care of myself.

144 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 4:53:28pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

And sick as it is to say this, I’m glad its something I don’t have to think about.

This doesn’t preclude you from having empathy. Just sayin.

145 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:53:50pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

And sick as it is to say this, I’m glad its something I don’t have to think about. I’m already neurotic, and I have trouble sometimes just taking care of myself.

But you do have to think about it.

Your vote impacts every woman and her ability to care for the children she chooses to carry in utero and those she may already have born.

it follows that it affects the whole of the community, the economy and the environment.

YOU DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

Your vote affects her ability to take care of herself —just as you wish to take care of yourself without interference from a government, or a religion.

146 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:54:30pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

And sick as it is to say this, I’m glad its something I don’t have to think about. I’m already neurotic, and I have trouble sometimes just taking care of myself.

Actually, I don’t think it is sick to say that. You don’t have to think about it right now and that’s OK.
Please just remember that every woman of reproductive age does have to think about it.

147 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 4:54:54pm

Warning: participating in the #SteveScaliseExcuses discussion is likely to result in a visit from the Magical Balance Fairy.

148 b.d.  Dec 29, 2014 4:56:12pm

So I imagine this means that Newt is going to run for president too?

149 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 4:57:11pm

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

But you do have to think about it.

Obviously, opinions vary. :)
He needs to have empathy and vote accordingly, but in his personal life it needn’t be something he worries about daily any more than most of us spend our days really worrying about the things that don’t impact us directly.

150 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 4:57:15pm

re: #148 b.d.

So I imagine this means that Newt is going to run for president too?

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Did you see my new definition of Sociopathy above?

In the dictionary, it will have Newt’s picture next to it.

and possibly, Mitten’s.

151 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:57:22pm
152 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 4:57:57pm
153 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:00:11pm

Chuck C.’s timeline is hilarious. He’s spinning out of control. Just brought up Derrick Bell!

154 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:00:28pm

The Unimaginable Responsibility of being a Woman:

Woman and a New Race — Margaret Sanger.

Interested in a historical perspective? I urge you to read.

155 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:01:14pm

re: #149 calochortus

Obviously, opinions vary. :)
He needs to have empathy and vote accordingly, but in his personal life it needn’t be something he worries about daily any more than most of us spend our days really worrying about the things that don’t impact us directly.

I tend to focus on the political impact.

156 Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2014 5:02:06pm

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

157 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:02:48pm

waitwhat

158 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 5:04:03pm
159 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 5:05:04pm

re: #157 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Excellent find, Sergey!

160 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:06:13pm

re: #158 bratwurst

He does KKKokaine!

161 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 5:06:52pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

I wish you both the best.

162 jaunte  Dec 29, 2014 5:07:19pm

re: #148 b.d.

So I imagine this means that Newt is going to run for president too?

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NEWT stands by Scalise

Reads like a message about an artificial intelligence.

163 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 5:07:37pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

re: #161 calochortus

I wish you both the best.

Seconded.

164 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:08:11pm

One thing to note reading through the Roll Call article, is that another notable Republican was able to speak about David Duke without putting on an asshat, that Republican being then state Rep but now Senator David Vitter, who won the Congressional race Duke had entered:

“I honestly think his 15 minutes of fame have come and gone,” said state Rep. David Vitter (R), a wealthy Metairie attorney who holds Duke’s old seat in the state House and is “seriously considering” a Congressional bid. “When he’s competed in a field with real conservatives, real Republicans, Duke has not done well at all.”

David Vitter’s got his own problems (the DC Madam scandal being the big one), but he’s not a hatemonger like David Duke and he knew how to give Duke the backhand.

165 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 5:08:58pm
166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:09:18pm
167 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:09:46pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

I know a couple who became foster parents and stated they would only accept adoptable infants.

They ended-up adopting 3 babies who looked like them. (it’s what they wanted) and a few forever loved fosters who moved on.

ALL FOR FREE —no attorney’s. The worked with the “system”.

She was a social worker and he a fireman.

There are ways … . .

168 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 5:10:16pm

re: #166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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Wut?

169 jaunte  Dec 29, 2014 5:10:34pm

re: #166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“…God is my Father,Jesus is my Savior and FOX News & The BLAZE are my sanity!”

Well, there ya go.

170 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 5:11:10pm

re: #166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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171 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 5:11:11pm

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

The Unimaginable Responsibility of being a Woman:

Woman and a New Race — Margaret Sanger.

Interested in a historical perspective? I urge you to read.

I will read it. I have in the past read some of her writing, and does take a bit of effort to get into the mindset of someone writing over a century ago.

172 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:12:13pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

The Vitter campaign sent fliers to black voters stating that the racist David Duke was supporting his opponent. In fact, Treen had been an enemy of Duke and had tried to stop his rise in Louisiana GOP politics. “Dave Treen and I have absolutely no use for David Duke whatsoever,” John Treen said. “He [Duke] tried to shake my hand once, and I said, ‘I’m not going to shake your hand, you son of a bitch.’ It’s hypocritical to shake someone’s hand if you consider them an enemy.” But in what John Treen believes was a secret pact between Duke and Vitter, the former Ku Klux Klansman came out publicly for his nemesis, Treen.

The effect was to suppress the black vote. Amid low turnout, Vitter eked out a victory with 51 percent. Curiously, though, the New Orleans area precincts that had supported Duke in the earlier phase of the race went not for Treen — whom the white supremacist had claimed to be supporting — but for Vitter. That was evidence, John Treen claims, that Duke’s supporters had secretly been rounding up votes for Vitter.

salon.com

173 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2014 5:12:40pm

re: #166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

sickening You pass over Benghazi because your scum media whore touts “Dude that was like 2 years ago”

No, shit for brains, we pass over Benghazi because it’s been investigated to death by people who would give major body parts to find ANYTHING to pin on Obama or HRC and they found NOTHING.

174 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:12:57pm

re: #168 Gus

Wut?

Malkovich Malkovich Malk Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi

175 team_fukit  Dec 29, 2014 5:15:44pm

Oh, this was the rebranding GOP has been talking about

176 calochortus  Dec 29, 2014 5:15:47pm

Must go help out Mr. Calochortus with tonight’s dinner. He wants to try a new-to-him recipe and figures that since I’ve made it before it would be easier to ask me how I made it than figure out the recipe on his own.
In his defense, I did make a few changes from the recipe as written, so if he just goes by the recipe he’s going to run into a few items we don’t have so I subbed other stuff in.

Laters.

177 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:15:53pm
178 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:16:18pm

re: #174 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Malkovich Malkovich Malk Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi

It’s showtime:


Dispatch: ‘A Ground Invasion of the Capital Is Imminent’

All-out war is coming to Libya, as rebel militias and a government-in-hiding begin a battle for control of the country.

TRIPOLI, Libya — Zeina, 27, was hanging out her washing when the first Grad rocket smashed into a neighbor’s house at the end of her dusty street. The deafening boom was followed by the telltale buzz of more incoming rockets. Libya’s civil war had landed on her doorstep.

“It started as a normal day — then we heard the sound of shelling and rockets,” said the young mother. “Without warning, they hit our houses. We fled with just the clothes we were wearing.”

Zeina is now crammed together with seven other people in a cinderblock outhouse that is part of Tripoli’s zoo. They are just a handful of the more than 400,000 people who are currently displaced inside Libya, which is witnessing its worst crisis since the 2011 NATO-backed revolt that toppled dictator Muammar Qaddafi.

For three years, Libya has been without a functioning government, police force, or army. The country has been ripped apart by warring fiefdoms of ex-rebels who helped oust Qaddafi but have since directed politics with AK-47s and anti-aircraft guns. This summer, as the battle lines began to harden, two rival factions emerged to vie for control of Libya: On one side is the newly elected parliament that has been banished to the eastern city of Tobruk — supported by the fractured remains of Qaddafi soldiers who defected during the uprising, as well as regional powers like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. On the other side is Libya Dawn, a self-described revolutionary coalition of militiamen and Islamist-leaning politicians that originated in the western city of Misrata, allegedly backed by Turkey and Qatar.

179 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:18:25pm
180 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:19:23pm
181 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 5:20:20pm

And we have hashtag trend.

#Scalise

182 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:20:38pm

That was inspired by Sergey’s comment yesterday…

183 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 5:20:42pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

One thing to note reading through the Roll Call article, is that another notable Republican was able to speak about David Duke without putting on an asshat, that Republican being then state Rep but now Senator David Vitter, who won the Congressional race Duke had entered:

David Vitter’s got his own problems (the DC Madam scandal being the big one), but he’s not a hatemonger like David Duke and he knew how to give Duke the backhand.

Do you know what I noted in reading the original 199 article? Not a single one of the party leaders or contenders for the House seat dismissed Duke for his deplorably racist, antisemitic views—they dismissed him because he would hamper their ability to attract “moderate voters and minorities.”

184 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:21:22pm

re: #183 CuriousLurker

Do you know what I noted in reading the original 199 article? Not a single one of the party leaders or contenders for the House seat dismissed Duke for his deplorably racist, antisemitic views—they dismissed him because he would hamper their ability to attract “moderate voters and minorities.”

The same thing they do today.

185 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:21:54pm

re: #171 calochortus

I will read it. I have in the past read some of her writing, and does take a bit of effort to get into the mindset of someone writing over a century ago.

I always think of this work because she was the first I found to use basic economics to explain the necessity of “voluntary motherhood”.

Large Supply + low demand == low price

Lots of people + few job opportunties = low value on life.

I think it is very difficult for those born after the Civil Rights movement and the Roe V Wade to understand the number of children in this country whose parents could not care for them. We don’t remember Boys Town or Hells Kitchen —unless one reads.

The Religious Whackos are (perhaps naively) leading us right back to that.

Reading Frank McCourt’s Angela’s Ashes is a good start in contemporary writing.

186 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:21:56pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

I’m almost sure it’s intentional on his part.

187 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:22:20pm

Voldemort for the Speaker!

188 Jenner7  Dec 29, 2014 5:22:50pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

<hugs> I can sympathize. My husband and I tried for 5 years until my first was born. I had two miscarriages. Tough emotionally and tough on your body.

After my second miscarriage, I had a D&C and several months later, I got pregnant. Then a year after my son was born, surprise #2 came. I thought I was lucky enough to even get pregnant, I didn’t think I would again. Whoops!

Anyway, I will be thinking good thoughts for you two. :)

189 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:24:31pm

re: #187 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Voldemort for the Speaker!

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In what context did he say that? Because there are contexts in which saying that is appropriate.

190 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:26:00pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

No idea, don’t care. The dude looks like the Dark Lord.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:26:09pm

re: #159 CuriousLurker

CL, did you see this earlier today?

192 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 5:27:45pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

CL, did you see this earlier today?

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No I didn’t, thanks!

193 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:29:12pm

re: #190 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

No idea, don’t care. The dude looks like the Dark Lord.

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:29:51pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

195 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:30:53pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

What makes him a good one?

196 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 5:31:31pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

If Benghazi obsession is your thing (and Lindsey Graham is already taken) you could LOVE him.

197 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:32:03pm
In the summer of 2009, Gowdy announced that he would challenge incumbent Republican U.S. Congressman Bob Inglis in the Republican primary for South Carolina’s 4th congressional district. Inglis, who got a 93% lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, angered the conservative wing of the Republican Party by taking stances that were perceived to be more moderate than those he’d taken when he’d first represented the district from 1993 to 1999.[8] For instance, he’d angered conservatives in his district when he supported cap and trade as a result of his belief that global warming is man made.[9] He drew five Republican challengers, and Gowdy was one of them. Like most of the challengers, Gowdy ran well to Inglis’ right.
198 SteelPH  Dec 29, 2014 5:32:42pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

Your standards for what passes as “good” must be exceedingly low.

199 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:33:01pm
An ardent social conservative, Gowdy considers himself “pro-life plus.” He not only believes “in the sanctity of life,” but argues that “the strategy should be broader than waiting for the Supreme Court to revisit Roe v. Wade.”[22]
200 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:33:56pm
Trey Gowdy signed the Contract From America, which aims to defund, repeal, and replace the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, limit United States Environmental Protection Agency regulations, enact a reform of the federal tax code, pass a balanced budget amendment, and end earmarks.
201 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:34:50pm
202 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 5:36:16pm
203 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:36:21pm

The dude’s a fucking voldemort.

204 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:36:51pm

re: #202 Gus

Priceless title.

205 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 5:36:55pm

Scalise is now defending himself to the New Orleans Times-Picayune:

Steve Scalise: ‘I detest any kind of hate group”

206 Linda1961  Dec 29, 2014 5:37:48pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

Gowdy is my Rep, and before that, he was the solicitor for SC’s 7th Circuit (Spartanburg and Cherokee counties). He was a good solicitor, but is a rotten Rep.

207 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:38:05pm
On Monday, the blog Little Green Footballs uncovered a January 1999 Roll Call story in a listserv archive. (Roll Call later posted the full story on its website.)

No link to LGF though. Oh well.

208 Lancelot Link  Dec 29, 2014 5:38:20pm

re: #205 bratwurst

“I detest any kind of hate group”

“…since yesterday.”

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:39:51pm

re: #206 Linda1961

hey Linda! Long time no see!
{hugs}

210 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:39:52pm

re: #201 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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That I hadn’t seen. That does lower him a bit, being as its mostly pandering.

Hearings aren’t really needed right now, though the House Select Committee on the Benghazi Attack should remain extant, since Gen. Haftar’s men may gain new insight into the attacks once they grind Ansar al-Shariah under in that city.

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:40:44pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

That I hadn’t seen. That does lower him a bit, being as its mostly pandering.

Hearings aren’t really needed right now, though the House Select Committee on the Benghazi Attack should remain extant, since Gen. Haftar’s men may gain new insight into the attacks once they grind Ansar al-Shariah under in that city.

Lowers him a bit? A BIT???

good grief, DF…

212 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:40:55pm

re: #206 Linda1961

Gowdy is my Rep, and before that, he was the solicitor for SC’s 7th Circuit (Spartanburg and Cherokee counties). He was a good solicitor, but is a rotten Rep.

Why do you say that?

213 Linda1961  Dec 29, 2014 5:41:51pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Linda! Long time no see!
{hugs}

Hey Sleuth! Been a lurker, but had to comment when the subject of Trey Gowdy came up.

214 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:42:17pm

re: #207 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

No link to LGF though. Oh well.

I know, what up wit dat?

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:42:17pm

re: #213 Linda1961

Hey Sleuth! Been a lurker, but had to comment when the subject of Trey Gowdy came up.

:D

216 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 5:42:27pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lowers him a bit? A BIT???

good grief, DF…

I expect politicians to pander, and politicians in non-black-majority areas of South Carolina have to fling some anti-Obama red meat at semi-regular intervals.

217 Linda1961  Dec 29, 2014 5:42:30pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{Hugs}} Sleuth!

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:43:02pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I expect politicians to pander, and politicians in non-black-majority areas of South Carolina have to fling some anti-Obama red meat at semi-regular intervals.

Oh FFS…
rah rah team uber alles…as usual.

219 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:44:31pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I expect politicians to pander, and politicians in non-black-majority areas of South Carolina have to fling some anti-Obama red meat at semi-regular intervals.

Guess what, DF? I’m a Republican who expects my elected officials to do their freaking jobs, not pander to the mouth breathers.
Guess that’s why I vote for Democrats now.

220 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 5:45:01pm
nclr.org

The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. Some people have mistranslated “La Raza” to mean “the race,” implying that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “la raza cósmica,” meaning “the cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.

221 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:47:17pm

re: #217 Linda1961

{{Hugs}} Sleuth!

Nice to see you, Linda1961!

222 Linda1961  Dec 29, 2014 5:48:20pm

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

Why do you say that?

As a Rep, he takes the gop stance of “If Obama is for it, he’s against it.” My one brush with crime came while he was Solicitor - my home was broken into and robbed. Thankfully, no one was home, so no one was hurt. The young man who robbed us was caught, tried and convicted.

Maybe it’s going to Washington does something to otherwise sane Republicans, or maybe it’s ODS, but Gowdy hasn’t been the same since he was elected to Congress.

223 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 5:51:20pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

{{{ EC }}}

You can rent my grandson.

224 ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2014 5:51:22pm

re: #111 Gus

Here’s when I first heard of David Duke.

Ocean County’s inconvenient truth: The Ku Klux Klan was once a big deal here

I remember Duke from a magazine (Time or People???) from like 1977 or so when he was being passed off as a nice young man that is putting a cleaner, softer face on the KKK.

He has been known to be a KKKer since at least 1974, maybe earlier.

September 18, 1974 - David Duke

Here is a link to an article about him in 1974, where I got the picture after a Google search to find the younger Duke.

St. Cloud University Library - David Duke Entry

Ku Klux Klan (KKK) Grand Dragon David Duke spoke to a capacity crowd at Halenbeck Hall on September 18, 1974. The 24 year old graduate of Louisana State University was met by “jeers, boos, and applause” by the spectators. Protestors chanted and held signs to show their displeasure in Duke’s appearance. The September 20, 1974 edition of the Chronicle said that Duke’s speech was “in part an attempt to document the KKK’s theories regarding Jews and communism, the differences between the races, and the history of white America.” Duke would later run for many political offices, most notable the election for Louisana governor in 1991.

225 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:51:34pm

re: #222 Linda1961

As a Rep, he takes the gop stance of “If Obama is for it, he’s against it.” My one brush with crime came while he was Solicitor - my home was broken into and robbed. Thankfully, no one was home, so no one was hurt. The young man who robbed us was caught, tried and convicted.

Maybe it’s going to Washington does something to otherwise sane Republicans, or maybe it’s ODS, but Gowdy hasn’t been the same since he was elected to Congress.

Selling one’s soul is the price of the ticket to Washington, D.C..

226 makeitstop  Dec 29, 2014 5:51:52pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

You’ve got him wrong, Sergey. Trey Gowdy is one of the good ones.

LOL. No.

227 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:52:25pm

re: #196 bratwurst

If Benghazi obsession is your thing (and Lindsey Graham is already taken) you could LOVE him.

But which is better dressed?

228 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:53:25pm
229 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:54:09pm

Squeaky wheel. Grease.

230 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 5:54:35pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

No, shit for brains, we pass over Benghazi because it’s been investigated to death by people who would give major body parts to find ANYTHING to pin on Obama or HRC and they found NOTHING.

I so stole that.

231 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:55:50pm
232 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 5:56:57pm

Speaking of crap.

Good news. V finally had a bowel movement. (I told her I would tell you, heh heh) She also climbed 14 steps and took her first shower in 15 days.

She’s completely bagged now though.

I must say, her stress level and mine are on the way down.

233 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:58:24pm

In the category of cool pix:

234 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 5:58:48pm

re: #232 b_sharp

That’s great news. Means her system is starting to function normally. Glad to hear it.

235 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 5:59:18pm

re: #232 b_sharp

Speaking of crap.

Good news. V finally had a bowel movement. (I told her I would tell you, heh heh) She also climbed 14 steps and took her first shower in 15 days.

She’s completely bagged now though.

I must say, her stress level and mine are on the way down.

YAY!!! She’ll be ready for that scavenger hunt in no time!
(You do have backup presents, yes?)

236 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 5:59:37pm

hhmmmmm …

237 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:00:01pm
238 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:00:27pm

re: #232 b_sharp

Speaking of crap.

Good news. V finally had a bowel movement. (I told her I would tell you, heh heh) She also climbed 14 steps and took her first shower in 15 days.

She’s completely bagged now though.

I must say, her stress level and mine are on the way down.

ah, this is why no opiates prescribed —slows down bowel motility… .

239 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 6:00:36pm
240 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:02:43pm
241 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:02:56pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

That’s great news. Means her system is starting to function normally. Glad to hear it.

No shit.

I was starting to worry about blockage in the area that was resected.

242 Jenner7  Dec 29, 2014 6:02:58pm

re: #232 b_sharp

Great news after all she’s been through. Yay for poop! :)

243 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:03:35pm

re: #240 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Shorter Schindler: Obama coddles antisemites.

244 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:03:55pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

YAY!!! She’ll be ready for that scavenger hunt in no time!
(You do have backup presents, yes?)

She’s in love with the heated throw and the socks I got her. I just have to think of something for our anniversary in 5 days.

245 psddluva4evah  Dec 29, 2014 6:05:01pm

Erick Erickson Apalled That GOP Whip Spoke At White Nationalist Event

Erickson was not willing to give Scalise the benefit of the doubt.

“How do you not know? How do you not investigate?” Erickson wrote on Monday. “By 2002, everybody knew Duke was still the man he had claimed not to be. EVERYBODY.”

“How the hell does somebody show up at a David Duke organized event in 2002 and claim ignorance?” Erickson asked.

246 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:05:41pm

I may have to start posting serious LGF comments soon if V keeps getting better.

247 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:05:47pm

re: #244 b_sharp

She’s in love with the heated throw and the socks I got her. I just have to think of something for our anniversary in 5 days.

One of these?

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:06:06pm

re: #244 b_sharp

She’s in love with the heated throw and the socks I got her. I just have to think of something for our anniversary in 5 days.

more of those really good socks…

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:06:37pm

re: #247 FemNaziBitch

One of these?

oooh…that’s a good one!

250 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:06:59pm

Irony.

251 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:07:01pm

re: #244 b_sharp

She’s in love with the heated throw and the socks I got her. I just have to think of something for our anniversary in 5 days.

Oh, and strangely enough --slippers that are sized as shoes— are WONDERFUL!

252 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:07:20pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

oooh…that’s a good one!

I’m really into comfort these days!

253 Belafon  Dec 29, 2014 6:07:35pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Scalise’s words in the original Roll Call article remind me of what Lee Atwater said. You start out by saying n-word, n-word. Then when that doesn’t work. You start talking about busing. And then when that doesn’t work, you start talking about lower taxes and welfare. So in short I see Scalise much like his fellow Louisianan, Tony Perkins who is someone who would be happy to get the votes and support of Duke supporters.

Make sure you know where you can get the audio to Atwater’s statement.

254 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:07:56pm

re: #247 FemNaziBitch

One of these?

Yah, I think I’ll concentrate on her comfort this year and trinkets next year.

255 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 6:08:01pm
256 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 6:08:28pm

re: #240 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Jeez. I used to think XXComm was a good read. Apparently, when he whipped his dick out all his brains followed right behind. He’s sounding completely deranged lately.

257 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:09:12pm

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

Oh, and strangely enough --slippers that are sized as shoes— are WONDERFUL!

I’d consider it, but I frequently trip over her many slippers already.

258 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 6:09:22pm

re: #250 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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Irony.

259 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 6:10:23pm

re: #250 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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Irony.

What wedding is he referring to? I’m cornfuzed.

260 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:10:28pm

re: #256 WhatEVs

Funny thing is, I mostly agree with him on, say, Putin. But he’s still a pretty superficial jerk.

261 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 6:10:34pm

re: #258 Gus

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262 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:10:45pm

re: #259 WhatEVs

What wedding is he referring to? I’m cornfuzed.

No idea.

263 Jenner7  Dec 29, 2014 6:11:48pm

re: #259 WhatEVs

Obama’s golf game plans interrupted their wedding plans. He called to apologize.

264 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:12:04pm

re: #258 Gus

What a nice couple :)

265 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 6:12:38pm

re: #260 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Funny thing is, I mostly agree with him on, say, Putin. But he’s still a pretty superficial jerk.

I know. But once the crazy leaks out, it’s hard taking anything said as sane. You know what I mean?

266 Jenner7  Dec 29, 2014 6:12:57pm

Michael Grimm To Resign From Congress: Report

huffingtonpost.com

267 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:13:15pm

re: #256 WhatEVs

Jeez. I used to think XXComm was a good read. Apparently, when he whipped his dick out all his brains followed right behind. He’s sounding completely deranged lately.

He did privately write that he was much more right-wing than he let on. Well, I trust people. ;)

268 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:13:50pm

re: #258 Gus

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That is how a proper man behaves: When mistakes happen, he works to make them right.

269 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:14:12pm

re: #257 b_sharp

I’d consider it, but I frequently trip over her many slippers already.

I actually got rid of all my other slippers once I discovered these. I have narrow feet and the choices were reduced, but OMG! what a difference.

270 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:14:19pm

Chucky is a new Breitbart, but with even less class.

271 dog philosopher  Dec 29, 2014 6:14:29pm

re: #250 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

O-bots

the number of persons who would legitimately fit this description these days seem to be vanishingly small given the poll numbers and the far right and left wings

272 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:14:46pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

That is how a proper man behaves: When he makes a mistake, he apologizes.

The President didn’t “make a mistake”, the golf course did.

273 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:14:56pm

re: #266 Jenner7

Michael Grimm To Resign From Congress: Report

huffingtonpost.com

and probably breathing a great sigh of relief.

274 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 6:15:14pm

My sister and her new husband receiving a personal phone call from president Barak Obama. It was amazing. A moment I will never forget.

instagram.com

275 bratwurst  Dec 29, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

That is how a proper man behaves: When he makes a mistake, he apologizes.

So the opposite of how Scalise is handling his situation right now?

276 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:16:36pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

The President didn’t “make a mistake”, the golf course did.

Post corrected:

re: #258 Gus

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That is how a proper man behaves: When mistakes happen, he works to make them right.

277 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:16:51pm

re: #275 bratwurst

So the opposite of how Scalise is handling his situation right now?

Yup.

278 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:17:06pm

ODS, as it were. I think it intensified after the torture report release.

279 psddluva4evah  Dec 29, 2014 6:18:30pm

How exactly is David Duke’s supremacist organization anything like League of Women Voters?

@CNNPolitics 3m3 minutes ago
BREAKING: Scalise compares appearance before hate group with that of the League of Women Voters cnn.it

280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:19:33pm

re: #279 psddluva4evah

How exactly is David Duke’s supremacist organization anything like League of Women Voters?

Keeps digging.

281 stpaulbear  Dec 29, 2014 6:19:55pm

re: #271 dog philosopher

the number of persons who would legitimately fit this description these days seem to be vanishingly small given the poll numbers and the far right and left wings

There are a lot more of us Obots than you think. Almost everyone I know still loves having him as president.

282 jaunte  Dec 29, 2014 6:22:59pm

re: #258 Gus

Obama just personally called my sister & her new husband to apologize for foiling their wedding venue golfing. Amazing!

Fresh Obots!

283 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:23:06pm

re: #280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Keeps digging.

284 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 6:23:14pm

IDIOTS. IDIOTS IN MY TIME LINE.

285 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:23:24pm

From the perspective of this outsider, Obama is the most rational of all the presidents I’ve lived through as an adult.

286 Jenner7  Dec 29, 2014 6:23:56pm

Obama answers boy’s heartbreaking letter to Santa

“When I pulled this one letter from a seventh-grade class at an Englewood elementary school, I couldn’t stop reading it,” Michelle DiGiacomo, CEO of DirectEffect, told the Sun Times. “All this kid was asking for was safety. I was floored.”

msnbc.com

I cried…

287 jaunte  Dec 29, 2014 6:24:41pm

It’s like every time the President has encounters with regular people they turn into Obots.

288 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 6:25:05pm

re: #279 psddluva4evah

How exactly is David Duke’s supremacist organization anything like League of Women Voters?

Well there are those icky wimmens there. Just like thems ickier nigras.

On a separate note:

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 29, 2014 6:28:58pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I continue to struggle with infertility. After a miscarriage a year ago we’re starting to accept that we may never have biological children. We are hoping to adopt but the costs of such are…significant.

We’ll have to wait and see I guess.

Been there. Spending the money on adoption rather than fertility treatments worked out best for us. Our boy from Vietnam is a delight every day (even when he’s not … ;)

290 Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2014 6:29:30pm
291 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:30:56pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Look who woke up.

292 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:31:34pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

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heh….

293 WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2014 6:32:20pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

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Oh this will be fun!

294 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 6:32:51pm

re: #254 b_sharp

Yah, I think I’ll concentrate on her comfort this year and trinkets next year.

If she’s a side-sleeper she might enjoy a body pillow. I love mine but hardly ever use it anymore because the cats never fail to appropriate it, then give me dirty looks when I make them move.

295 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:35:19pm

re: #293 WhatEVs

Oh this will be fun!

Hopefully, folks, we’ll get to see on of the most fun beat-downs there is to see: The Real Charles Johnson laying the smack down on Chuckles C. Johnson!

296 Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2014 6:35:40pm

re: #279 psddluva4evah

How exactly is David Duke’s supremacist organization anything like League of Women Voters?

Well, as Rush Limbaugh would, and probably will say, one is a group of feminazis and the other one is a group of Southern gentlemen, so of course he should apologize for speaking to the nazis.

297 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:36:30pm

Somebody give Chuck the LGF link :)

298 psddluva4evah  Dec 29, 2014 6:37:27pm

Ok, it’s time for 2014 to end. I mean it’s 2014…and we are talking about David Duke!!! 2014…go home, your drunk!

299 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:38:21pm

re: #294 CuriousLurker

If she’s a side-sleeper she might enjoy a body pillow. I love mine but hardly ever use it anymore because the cats never fail to appropriate it, then give me dirty looks when I make them move.

Same here.
We have 2 unused body pillows here. We used them a few years ago, but they were never an advantage.

OTOH, she uses 6 other pillows of various construction.

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:39:21pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

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Crack kid genius journalist/researcher asked this question a few minutes ago, Lee Fang posted this three hours ago:

301 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:39:24pm

re: #297 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Somebody give Chuck the LGF link :)

302 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:41:12pm

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

It would seem that Lee independently found it in Lexis Nexis (though still after me).

303 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 6:42:57pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

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*SNORT* So much for the whole star reporter thing. It’s been out there how many hours and he’s still clueless?

304 Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2014 6:43:24pm

re: #302 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It would seem that Lee independently found it in Lexis Nexis (though still after me).

OK, but you wanted someone to send CJC the LGF link, so I did.

305 stpaulbear  Dec 29, 2014 6:43:56pm

re: #288 WhatEVs

On a separate note:

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The city of Bloomington (home of MOA) is really going to regret this. What a stupid, stupid move.

306 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:44:36pm

re: #303 CuriousLurker

*SNORT* So much for the whole star reporter thing. It’s been out there how many hours and he’s still clueless?

Clueless bighead ginger crawls through the internets as if in a daze. Every news is a surprise and shock for him. “Where did you get that? And you, hey, you - where is that from?”.

307 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Dec 29, 2014 6:44:56pm

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, DF :)

308 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:45:41pm

Whatever happened to the private threads we used to have?

309 Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2014 6:47:04pm

re: #306 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Clueless bighead ginger crawls through the internets as if in daze. Every news is a surprise and shock for him. “Where did you get that? And you, hey, you - where is that from?”.

What he’d really like is for people to provide him with an image he can stamp his watermark on it. That’s the way we work here in the New MEdia.

310 stpaulbear  Dec 29, 2014 6:47:38pm

re: #299 b_sharp

Same here.
We have 2 unused body pillows here. We used them a few years ago, but they were never an advantage.

OTOH, she uses 6 other pillows of various construction.

I use a body pillow as the base for my two down pillows. Works really well for me.

311 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:48:04pm

re: #294 CuriousLurker

If she’s a side-sleeper she might enjoy a body pillow. I love mine but hardly ever use it anymore because the cats never fail to appropriate it, then give me dirty looks when I make them move.

ooh, good idea!

312 Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 29, 2014 6:49:57pm

Dude… David Duke was nationally known as a racist pus-bucket before fucking Bush 41. I knew who he was then, and I was ten. There’s no valid claim of ignorance here. Period, full stop, end of story. :P

313 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:50:34pm

re: #299 b_sharp

Same here.
We have 2 unused body pillows here. We used them a few years ago, but they were never an advantage.

OTOH, she uses 6 other pillows of various construction.

I got a water pillow for my head —REALLY, REALLY LOVE IT and about 3 under my knees, and 2 extra on the side for when I turn over and sleep on my side.

and various braces for joints used as needed.

314 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:50:48pm

Our cats are upset we’re both sleeping downstairs right now, so they’re acting out by making piles of noise when we try to sleep.

I finally blew up at them and the last two nights they’ve disappeared when we turn the lights out.

315 b_sharp  Dec 29, 2014 6:51:42pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

I got a water pillow for my head —REALLY, REALLY LOVE IT and about 3 under my knees, and 2 extra on the side for when I turn over and sleep on my side.

and various braces for joints used as needed.

That’s how she sleeps, except she has a memory pillow instead of water pillow.

316 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:53:05pm

re: #315 b_sharp

That’s how she sleeps, except she has a memory pillow instead of water pillow.

the water pillow works better for my neck/jaw issues.

317 CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2014 6:53:13pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

I got a water pillow for my head —REALLY, REALLY LOVE IT and about 3 under my knees, and 2 extra on the side for when I turn over and sleep on my side.

and various braces for joints used as needed.

I’ll be darned, I didn’t even know there was such a thing. Thanks.

318 FemNaziBitch  Dec 29, 2014 6:54:40pm

Oh, and when I want to turn over I usually can’t because I have a dog on either side pinning down the covers —acting as arm rests.

there is a thought b. you could get her a nice old rescue dog that just wants to lay on the bed and act as an arm rest.

319 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2014 6:54:55pm

Some comic relief and utter non-self-aware cluelessness

320 Gus  Dec 29, 2014 6:56:10pm

Going up.

321 Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 29, 2014 6:56:17pm

re: #287 jaunte

It’s like every time the President has encounters with regular people they turn into Obots.

I answer customer service calls as a (too large) part of my job. Part of the call answering process involves verifying people’s information like where they live, where they work, etc. to keep the info updated. Additionally, we are required to try and make small chit-chat (which is bullshit, but I digress).

So back before Xmas I take a call from a person who works for the DNC in a mid-Atlantic state. Well cool, I’ve never talked to anybody who worked in a political post like that, so I asked her if she got to meet anybody, and what sort of hate mail she must get from the other side, etc.

This person told me that as much as you might not believe in charisma, when you meet a President, it’s definitely there. She said when she met Obama he “controlled the room”, and that it was amazing to watch him. We’ve all heard much the same thing about Clinton, of course.

I just thought that was interesting. Charisma and “working a room” is pretty much part of the job, so all Presidents must have some measure of that skill.

322 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2014 6:57:18pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

I got a water pillow for my head —REALLY, REALLY LOVE IT and about 3 under my knees, and 2 extra on the side for when I turn over and sleep on my side.

and various braces for joints used as needed.

Love my water pillow!

323 retired cynic  Dec 29, 2014 7:03:44pm

re: #315 b_sharp

I see the thread has moved, but the best thing we ever got was a memory foam topper for our mattress. Not that expensive, and it has made such a difference.

324 darthstar  Dec 29, 2014 8:08:07pm

re: #73 Gus

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They’re using my screenshot of LGF for Vox? Fuckers.

325 BeachDem  Dec 29, 2014 9:57:35pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I expect politicians to pander, and politicians in non-black-majority areas of South Carolina have to fling some anti-Obama red meat at semi-regular intervals.

That is total, unmitigated horseshit.

326 BeachDem  Dec 29, 2014 9:59:41pm

re: #213 Linda1961

Hey Sleuth! Been a lurker, but had to comment when the subject of Trey Gowdy came up.

Hey, Linda. Wanted to say hi as well (you might remember me as “first the tide rushes in, plants a kiss on the shore…”) your fellow Palmetto person.


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