Catholic League’s Bill Donohue Sympathizes With Paris Terrorists

An ugly gloating statement
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Catholic League president Bill Donohue was quick to issue a statement on the terror attack against the office of French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo today; Donohue says this kind of mass murder “must be unequivocally condemned.”

Then he proceeds to equivocate.

Catholic League president Bill DonohueKilling in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated. BUT neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

Those who work at this newspaper have a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures, and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures. For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms. They have also shown Muhammad in pornographic poses.

While some Muslims today object to any depiction of the Prophet, others do not. Moreover, visual representations of him are not proscribed by the Koran. What unites Muslims in their anger against Charlie Hebdo is the vulgar manner in which Muhammad has been portrayed. What they object to is being intentionally insulted over the course of many years. On this aspect, I am in total agreement with them.

Donohue makes it very plain that he believes the journalists at Charlie Hebdo brought this on themselves, accusing the publisher of “narcissism.”

Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.

Wow. It’s not often that an American religious figure comes right out and expresses sympathy with the murderous grievances of radical Islamists (even if he does make a half-hearted attempt to condemn them at the same time). Donohue seems to be gloating over the death of a long-time foe.

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368 comments
1 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 1:22:05pm

Well. There you go. “Look what you made me do.”

2 Dr Lizardo  Jan 7, 2015 1:23:44pm
3 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 1:23:53pm

Shorter Donahue: “I’m not saying I approve, but they had it coming.”

4 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 1:24:09pm

President speaking in Detroit right now and is drooling over the new Ford Mustangs…

5 Jack Burton  Jan 7, 2015 1:27:08pm

re: #3 Kragar

Shorter Donahue: “I’m not saying I approve,

…because Muslims

but they had it coming.”

…because fuck you.

6 D_Red  Jan 7, 2015 1:27:19pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

President speaking in Detroit right now and is drooling over the new Ford Mustangs…

He’s a mooslim!

7 Thanos  Jan 7, 2015 1:29:49pm

Wow.

8 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 1:31:08pm

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

Now you’ve done it…you’ve pissed off Severus.

9 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 1:31:33pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

President speaking in Detroit right now and is drooling over the new Ford Mustangs…

yea, but Michelle like the Camaro convertible, so we know how that will end.

RBS

10 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 1:32:35pm

I’m reminded of the whole song and dance after George Tiller was shot dead from the anti-choice crowd, when they first made noises about how “shocked” they were and how they “condemned” it…before dropping the mask to show their glee that he was dead and his death would scare other doctors into avoiding the practice.

11 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 1:34:20pm

Mr. Donohue is just happy that there were icky Muslims to do the deed so he could keep his own lily white Xtian hands clean.

12 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 1:35:50pm
13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 1:39:45pm
14 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 1:40:15pm
15 nines09  Jan 7, 2015 1:40:38pm

Why do I get the feeling he would condone the same if his church was somehow “defamed” if it could be done? Of the same cloth come to mind. That reminds me of why there are abused women. Not one knew when to shut the fuck up. Right, Mr. Donohue? I will await the censuring…..about any moment now……

16 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 1:43:31pm

Oh oh. V is in trouble now.
She had me take her to the clinic at 1:30 because that’s when her appointment was.I told her I’d drop her off and ttake the gkid home stopping for some food first then I’d park in the lot and wait for her. Two hours later she’s not out yet so I go inside to see how things are going.

Her appointment was at 3:30.

Arrrggh.

17 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 1:44:55pm

re: #16 b_sharp

Oh oh. V is in trouble now.
She had me take her to the clinic at 1:30 because that’s when her appointment was.I told her I’d drop her off and ttake the gkid home stopping for some food first then I’d park in the lot and wait for her. Two hours later she’s not out yet so I go inside to see how things are going.

Her appointment was at 3:30.

Arrrggh.

Make that scavenger hunt extra long now.

18 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 1:45:20pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Including a very brief stop outside.

19 Egregious Philbin  Jan 7, 2015 1:46:03pm

What a C-Word.

20 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 1:46:05pm

re: #18 klystron

Including a very brief stop outside.

She can shovel the walk.

21 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 1:47:01pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Cool…have we started looking for the NAACP bomber(s) yet? Or was that just a bad apple and we don’t want to upset people with unfair prying into their lives?

22 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 1:47:30pm
23 jaunte  Jan 7, 2015 1:47:48pm
24 wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2015 1:48:18pm
25 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 1:48:28pm

Fun Fact: Bill Donohue, Mr. “More Catholic Than the Pope”, is divorced.

26 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 1:49:16pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make that scavenger hunt extra long now.

re: #18 klystron

Including a very brief stop outside.

I think she owes me a couple of personal favours.

27 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 1:49:35pm

Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes!

28 Iwouldprefernotto  Jan 7, 2015 1:50:37pm

re: #25 Ace-o-aces

Fun Fact: Bill Donohue, Mr. “More Catholic Than the Pope”, is divorced.

The Pope has never been divorced.

29 The War TARDIS  Jan 7, 2015 1:50:49pm

I am gobsmacked.

How does someone get to Bill Donohue’s ideological position.

And now Pope Francis has a piece of crap to deal with.

30 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 1:53:01pm
BUT neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

There he goes again. That gdamn Obummer. Always equivocating and qualifying. What about Moral Absolutes??

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31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 1:53:12pm

re: #29 The War TARDIS

I am gobsmacked.

How does someone get to Bill Donohue’s ideological position.

And now Pope Francis has a piece of crap to deal with.

The Pope, who has already made a statement about Paris, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Bill Donohue’s opinion.

32 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 1:53:13pm
33 Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2015 1:53:39pm

re: #29 The War TARDIS

I am gobsmacked.

How does someone get to Bill Donohue’s ideological position.

And now Pope Francis has a piece of crap to deal with.

It’s a self-appointed position.

34 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 1:54:59pm
35 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 1:55:58pm

re: #23 jaunte

Real presidential material that one. Him and his spawn.

36 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 1:57:30pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Pope, who has already made a statement about Paris, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Bill Donohue’s opinion.

Nor does most anyone else.

37 Click My Icon To Watch This Short French Film.  Jan 7, 2015 1:58:27pm

Wow. there is only one word to describe the religious right: Diabolical.

38 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 7, 2015 1:58:56pm
Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive.

Serious question: are my wife and I the only people left who remember the distinction between “may” and “might” in this context?

39 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 1:59:23pm

Bringing in the load of bullshit from the other side, we have Bill Maher:

40 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:03:12pm

re: #38 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Serious question: are my wife and I the only people left who remember the distinction between “may” and “might” in this context?

Doubtful. When I was single I used to say the first guy who could differentiate they’re, their and there; too, two and to; and your vs you’re would be my next spouse. Soft bigotry of low expectations, I know.

Most people can’t be bothered to find an adverb, either.

41 wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2015 2:04:27pm
42 blueraven  Jan 7, 2015 2:04:44pm

re: #39 klystron

Bringing in the load of bullshit from the other side, we have Bill Maher:


Do Christians need to do the same? Like Donohue? ooops

43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 7, 2015 2:05:33pm

re: #40 WhatEVs

Doubtful. When I was single I used to say the first guy who could differentiate they’re, their and there; too, two and to; and your vs you’re would be my next spouse. Soft bigotry of low expectations, I know.

Most people can’t be bothered to find an adverb, either.

I can do all those things, but I’m already taken. I hope they guy you found was satisfactory in those ways as well as others.

44 jaunte  Jan 7, 2015 2:06:27pm

Just in from today’s email.

45 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:07:43pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

Well fuck, that’s depressing as hell.

46 De Kolta Chair  Jan 7, 2015 2:07:49pm
47 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:08:15pm

well, that was a good plate of red beans and rice. I did the beans up in the crock pot, then tossed them into a pot for the last 30 minutes or so to reduce the liquid a bit. Not the best I’ve ever done, but a very acceptable meal. Sometimes simple things are the best.

RBS

48 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 2:08:16pm

re:
#41

Hey, man, he’s just asking questions….

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49 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 2:08:40pm

littlegreenfootballs.com

All that said, I really find the concept of him having a wife at all not terribly believable.

Well, he does have those wedding photos….
Wait a second, how do we know those weren’t Photoshopped. Has anyone bothered to check….THE PIXELS!

50 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:10:25pm

re: #49 Ace-o-aces

littlegreenfootballs.com

Well, he does have those wedding photos….
Wait a second, how do we know those weren’t Photoshopped. Has anyone bothered to check….THE PIXELS!

All I know is that I’ve heard that on his wedding night, his wife said, “What do you mean that’s as big as the pixel gets?”

RBS

51 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 2:10:54pm

So, I guess, Sen Grassley wants us to launch another War on Terror, or to say the words War on Terror, a lot more. Are we supposed to bomb France now? Does Grassley not think our actions against ISIS in Syria and Iraq aren’t enough?

Republicans, always asking questions, seldom providing meaningful answers.

52 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:11:55pm
53 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:12:26pm

Former high level CIA official. What bias?

54 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:12:39pm

Very cool album art.

55 Justanotherhuman  Jan 7, 2015 2:12:51pm

MSNBC is reporting that suspects in the Paris attack have been identified.

They were “pros” at this, cold and calculating. Horrible.

Some simply think democracy is a joke and have no compunction in killing those who disagree with them.

A few with that mindset have already been named above.

56 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:12:58pm

re: #43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I can do all those things, but I’m already taken. I hope they guy you found was satisfactory in those ways as well as others.

Cute. :-) My dear husband is the poster child of how one must be careful what one asks for. He is so smart it scares me sometimes. He also comes off as an arrogant know-it-all at times (thankfully, between his sister and myself we keep his quite healthy ego in check. And, he is ok with being told when he’s being a dick. Maybe, sometime before I die, he will realize he’s being a dick before speaking. Baby steps.) I cannot have a rational conversation with him about police brutality without my wanting to kill him. And what kills me is that he has no love of cops yet he seems to always side with them when some poor kid gets killed by one.

All that said, and all told, I consider myself pretty lucky.

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 2:13:34pm

re: #53 klystron

Former high level CIA official. What bias?

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Brevik was a white guy.
No need to bring it up.

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58 Romantic Heretic  Jan 7, 2015 2:14:13pm

They don’t even pretend to care about freedom or the rule of law any more, do they?

59 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:14:30pm

re: #45 klystron

Well fuck, that’s depressing as hell.

It’s also confusing as hell. Some of his tweets are unintelligible, even when not using rAnDom CapiTaliZAtioN.

60 Justanotherhuman  Jan 7, 2015 2:15:17pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Very cool album art.

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On my way back home from dropping the Munchkin off at school, I saw a huge number of flocks of birds flying south. The rising sun was shining on them, making them all appear silver. What a beautiful sight it was. : )

61 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 2:15:17pm

re: #39 klystron

Bringing in the load of bullshit from the other side, we have Bill Maher:

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He’s conflating the concept of moderation with free speech absolutism. I’m not sure this notion translates well even inside all parts of America, let alone outside it. I mean, as far as ideals go it’s a nice one, but I have a hard time calling it moderate. It’s more like a laudable goal that sits at the far end of the spectrum, there are plenty of democracies that strictly regulate hate speech, and they do so for historically valid reasons. It’s easy as an American for Maher to either forget or just conveniently ignore this, but it doesn’t make his statement any more logical.

Also, if “Muslim” is just a specific, and yes topical, example of believer then it’s really only there to provoke reaction, which is fairly dickish.

62 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 2:15:31pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Very cool album art.

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I heard Tippi Hedren say she didn’t care for it

63 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:16:56pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure Maher is firmly on the side of “Islam is extra bad” per a fantastically long conversation in the Pages a couple months back, following a guest (Ben Affleck, maybe?) calling him out on his bigotry.

64 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:17:42pm

I think he means Chuckles.

65 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:18:16pm

re: #49 Ace-o-aces

littlegreenfootballs.com

Well, he does have those wedding photos….
Wait a second, how do we know those weren’t Photoshopped. Has anyone bothered to check….THE PIXELS!

I have seen pictures of a girl in a short, white dress pretty much walking behind him. None of the photos (that I saw, at least) struck me as wedding pictures. But maybe I am just old fashioned about weddings. Perhaps if that was a courthouse wedding (like mine was), but an outdoor wedding? It just looked odd to me.

66 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:18:40pm

re: #64 darthstar

I think he means Chuckles.

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Yeah, there was a series of tweets that he did about how our Charles is the “good Lazarus” fighting to save the universe from the “bad Lazarus” upchuck.

67 unproven innocence  Jan 7, 2015 2:18:54pm

re: #56 WhatEVs

[snip] I cannot have a rational conversation with him about police brutality without my wanting to kill him. [snip]

I’m hoping I’m not alone in finding that part confusing.

68 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 2:19:13pm

re: #64 darthstar

I think he means Chuckles.

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69 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 2:19:28pm

re:
#64

Well, he will, if we all chip in with some $$$$. What, do you think heroic new journalism just magically appears??

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70 Justanotherhuman  Jan 7, 2015 2:20:06pm

Later, Lizards!

71 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:20:43pm
72 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:21:33pm
73 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:21:34pm

re: #68 Kragar

Let me guess: he has an anonymous source inside the Paris police. @joshtpm
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Yes, I’m not sure of the name, Inspector C, or something like that.

RBS

74 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:22:51pm

re: #64 darthstar

I think he means Chuckles.

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“Good? Bad? I’m the one with the gun.”

75 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:22:52pm

re: #67 unproven innocence

I’m hoping I’m not alone in finding that part confusing.

Whether it is Ferguson or Eric Garner, the guy in SC who was told to get his license and was shot by the cop in fear of his life, etc. ad nauseum, he always, basically, sides with the cops.

Him: There must be something we don’t know.

Me: IT’S ON FUCKING VIDEO

76 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:23:56pm

re: #72 klystron

Interesting NPR story on gyms like Crunch Fitness and Planet Fitness and how they survive - they rely on people not using them. One gym had 6,000 members paying $10 a month. No, most of them never used it.

77 wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2015 2:24:06pm
78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 2:25:11pm

re: #71 darthstar

As if they needed another excuse…

79 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:25:23pm

re: #76 darthstar

Interesting NPR story on gyms like Crunch Fitness and Planet Fitness and how they survive - they rely on people not using them. One gym had 6,000 members paying $10 a month. No, most of them never used it.

All 6000 showed up on the 2nd of January, saw how crowded it was, and gave up.

80 unproven innocence  Jan 7, 2015 2:25:41pm

re: #75 WhatEVs

Ok, that sounds like rational conversation. My sympathies.

81 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:25:47pm

re: #76 darthstar

There is a reason I convinced him to use his last job’s health benefit (would pay for gym membership/equipment/etc., since there was no gym at the office) to get some exercise equipment. We don’t have to remember to stop and restart the payments as we use things.

82 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 2:26:02pm

catholic league sounds too much to me like the the catholic legion of decency, the organization that led to the motion picture production code which mandated the absence of lingerie in american movies for many decades

83 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:26:20pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

All 6000 showed up on the 2nd of January, saw how crowded it was, and gave up.

Since most only use their memberships for the two weeks of their New Year’s Resolution, that’s likely. :-)

84 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 2:26:34pm

re: #9 RealityBasedSteve

yea, but Michelle like the Camaro convertible, so we know how that will end.

RBS

He better hurry on up and get a Mustang while he is still President!

Hopefully the newest Shelby GT500.

85 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:27:30pm

re: #71 darthstar

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I gotta tell you, that picture creeps me out a bit. Boehner looks like the Boss who says, “Hey, I come from a culture that kisses and hugs, and gropes each other! I’m just being me!”

86 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:28:06pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

He better hurry on up and get a Mustang while he is still President!

Hopefully the newest Shelby GT500.

I’ve read a couple of reviews on it… yea, that would be nice. Imagine him leaving a set of stripes on the pavement as he pulls away from the White House his last day.

RBS

87 De Kolta Chair  Jan 7, 2015 2:28:12pm

re: #64 darthstar

I think he means Chuckles.

Let me guess, he’ll say it was these guys?
88 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:28:48pm
89 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 2:28:49pm

Donohue represents the millenia-old conservative ethos (initially religious, but later also secular): one should be physically punished for offending “sacred feelings”.

90 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 2:31:23pm
91 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:33:28pm

re: #89 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Donohue represents the millenia-old conservative ethos (initially religious, but later also secular): one should be physically punished for offending “sacred feelings”.

Ironically enough, the same conservative ethos whines about “political correctness run amok” all over the place.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 2:33:31pm

re: #86 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve read a couple of reviews on it… yea, that would be nice. Imagine him leaving a set of stripes on the pavement as he pulls away from the White House his last day.

RBS

I can actually see Biden doing that.
:D

93 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 2:34:35pm

Watch this space.

94 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 2:35:12pm

re: #91 klystron

BTW, I include e.g. NK and USSR into this ethos (i.e. I’m not using “conservative” as an equivalent to “just like the American right” here).

95 KingKenrod  Jan 7, 2015 2:36:05pm

re: #90 Kragar

I hope Trump didn’t damage either of his brain cells thinking that gem up.

96 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:36:45pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

He better hurry on up and get a Mustang while he is still President!

Hopefully the newest Shelby GT500.

Hey, I’d be happy with the plain old GT, with the Performance Package, if only it could carry more than one passenger! I guess I’ll just have to be happy with this, though….

Ain’t it purty?
97 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:36:47pm

re: #94 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

BTW, I include e.g. NK and USSR into this ethos (i.e. I’m not using “conservative” as an equivalent to “just like the American right” here).

I figured, since you did mention millenia. But I think it is valid and applies to the American right here, and they certainly have the hypocrisy down pat.

98 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 2:37:19pm

re: #90 Kragar

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“HAHA! Gun control doesn’t work because France has such tight control on guns yet this happened!”

“And how many shootings were there in France last year? And how do they compare to the US?”

“Well…uh…that’s different!”

99 wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2015 2:38:04pm

Later, lizards.

100 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:38:48pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

“HAHA! Gun control doesn’t work because France has such tight control on guns yet this happened!”

“And how many shootings were there in France last year? And how do they compare to the US?”

“Well…uh…that’s different!”

You can’t compare us! They don’t have as many people!

101 bratwurst  Jan 7, 2015 2:39:05pm

Congressman Peter King is presently speculating that this attack could have been the work of ALL known radical Islamic organizations working together (because they are ALL the same, amIrite?). Glad Wolf Blitzer was somehow able to coax this busy lawmaker into making a rare TV appearance.

102 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:40:29pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

103 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:40:46pm

Notice how Chuck just dropped this whole line of pursuit.

104 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:41:23pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Notice how Chuck just dropped this whole line of pursuit.

I’m thinking it must be a nasty hangover. (Maybe today was the day he was driving to Bakersfield?)

105 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 2:41:36pm

I’ve been trying to get caught up a bit around here. Looks to have been a lot of lizard activity this afternoon.

I do get it that today is the day we all get to watch extremists bitch about extremists as extremists excuse extremists all while placing blame on extremists.

I am extremely sick of extremists.

/

106 Dr Lizardo  Jan 7, 2015 2:41:36pm

I don’t know if it’s actually been confirmed - but apparently the trio involved in the Paris terrorist attack have been arrested.

The reason it was apparently no problem tracking them lickety-split?

Investigators quickly identified the brothers because they left their identification cards behind when fleeing the stolen black Citroen they have been seen utilizing in video of the assault, according to TFI.

aol.com

Again, I think it’s still unconfirmed at this point.

Left their ID cards behind? If that really turns out to be the case, well, I’m speechless, because that’s some pretty breathtaking bungling.

One could almost call it……..Clouseauesque.

I hope they got ‘em. This is one time I’ll certainly say lock ‘em up and throw away the key.

107 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 2:42:00pm

Ok, LGF family, need some opinions here. I’m working on the cover for my forthcoming poetry book. Note my name is not actually “Tom Watts”, I’m just using that as a placeholder. This is attempt no. 1:

108 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:42:01pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

I’ve been trying to get caught up a bit around here. Looks to have been a lot of lizard activity this afternoon.

I do get it that today is the day we all get to watch extremists bitch about extremists as extremists excuse extremists all while placing blame on extremists.

I am extremely sick of extremists.

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That seems an extreme statement.

/

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 2:42:22pm
110 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 2:42:47pm

I bet you could convince CCJ that his car would run faster if his tank was properly configured to hold bigger gallons.

111 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 2:43:18pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Notice how Chuck just dropped this whole line of pursuit.

No offense, Charles, but you say that like it’s something new or different. CCJ doesn’t stay on one story longer than it takes people to debunk it, then quietly moves on to the next “breaking news.”

112 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:43:20pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you could convince CCJ that his car would run faster if his tank was properly configured to hold bigger gallons.

Well, if it’s IMPERIAL gallons, you’d have a point…..

113 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:43:41pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok, LGF family, need some opinions here. I’m working on the cover for my forthcoming poetry book. Note my name is not actually “Tom Watts”, I’m just using that as a placeholder. This is attempt no. 1:

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It would be cool if you could create a big crack in the road and put the Broken Road text inside the crack.

114 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:43:42pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you could convince CCJ that his car would run faster if his tank was properly configured to hold bigger gallons.

His mileage would improve…

;)

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 2:44:23pm
116 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:44:23pm

Did somebody say “Extreme?”

Extreme - Rest In Peace

117 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 2:44:35pm

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

Cue the conspiracy theories.

118 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 2:45:19pm

Aww, @peterdukephoto blocked me. Maybe somebody else can RT and get his attention.

119 CriticalDragon1177  Jan 7, 2015 2:45:22pm

Charles Johnson,

So Donahue basically thinks no one should be allowed to poke fun of anyone’s religion? That’s very telling, isn’t it?

Yet we are to believe the Catholic League is a “civil rights” organization?

120 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 2:45:55pm

re: #113 WhatEVs

It would be cool if you could create a big crack in the road and put the Broken Road text inside the crack.

That’s a cool idea, though I’m not sure my photo editing skills are up to the challenge. :P

121 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:45:56pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you could convince CCJ that his car would run faster if his tank was properly configured to hold bigger gallons.

how can it be 100 miles to Paducah KY, but 161 Km? It’s the same road, how can it have two different distances.

RBS

122 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:46:14pm
123 Dr Lizardo  Jan 7, 2015 2:46:24pm

re: #117 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Cue in the conspiracy theories.

Oh, I’m sure they’ve already begun.

124 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:46:45pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Notice how Chuck just dropped this whole line of pursuit.

He can’t understand you right now, he’s thinking in French.

125 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:47:12pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a cool idea, though I’m not sure my photo editing skills are up to the challenge. :P

Oh, for some reason, I thought you were one of the people who was playing around with Photoshop. My bad.

126 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:47:40pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok, LGF family, need some opinions here. I’m working on the cover for my forthcoming poetry book. Note my name is not actually “Tom Watts”, I’m just using that as a placeholder. This is attempt no. 1:

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I’d make the “Poems, Musings and Other Little Things…” a bit more emphasised, I wasn’t sure what the book was about.

127 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 2:47:44pm

re: #125 WhatEVs

Oh, for some reason, I thought you were one of the people who was playing around with Photoshop. My bad.

No worries. I WISH I was that good!

128 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 7, 2015 2:48:31pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Relax. I know what I’m doing.

His plan to masquerade as a clueless fuckwit to cover up the fact that he’s a fraud and a tinhorn is working perfectly.

129 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:49:18pm

Extreme was kind of a cartoonish band, but Nuno Bettencourt really can play his ass off.

Midnight Express - Nuno Bettencourt

130 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 2:49:42pm

re: #128 Higgs Boson’s Mate

His plan to masquerade as a clueless fuckwit to cover up the fact that he’s a fraud and a tinhorn is working perfectly.

so what, you’re saying that he’s not actually qualified to be a clueless fuckwit?

RBS

131 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 2:52:24pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a cool idea, though I’m not sure my photo editing skills are up to the challenge. :P

Here is my quick and dirty sketch on an index card for how you might tweak it somewhat simply to evoke that concept.

Cover idea.
132 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 2:52:26pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Extreme was kind of a cartoonish band, but Nuno Bettencourt really can play his ass off

when does he get to put his ass back on?

133 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 2:52:50pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s claiming his website (i.e. himself) has independently verified a US plot?

And the little asshole is tagging the likes of Erickson in hopes of getting some name recognition.

134 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:54:05pm

re: #131 klystron

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Here is my quick and dirty sketch on an index card for how you might tweak it somewhat simply to evoke that concept.

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I like that. Maybe just text instead of the big black block, too. You should be able to split the road easily without PShop.

135 De Kolta Chair  Jan 7, 2015 2:57:26pm
“Those who work at this newspaper have a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures, and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures.”

Like depicting his lord and savior as an animal? Oh wait…

136 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 2:57:36pm

re: #121 RealityBasedSteve

how can it be 100 miles to Paducah KY, but 161 Km? It’s the same road, how can it have two different distances.

RBS

“But these go to 11!”

137 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 2:59:31pm

Does anyone know how to make nice strings out of a spaghetti squash? Mine always get mushy.

138 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 2:59:53pm
139 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 3:00:14pm

re: #137 WhatEVs

Does anyone know how to make nice strings out of a spaghetti squash? Mine always get mushy.

The last time I got a spaghetti squash, my husband named it Squash-chan and we never did get around to eating it.

So no.

140 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:00:21pm
That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated. BUT neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

He’s basically just equated mockery of religion to murder at least on a legal level.

141 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:01:34pm
142 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:02:36pm

re: #137 WhatEVs

Does anyone know how to make nice strings out of a spaghetti squash? Mine always get mushy.

Cut in half lenghtwise and steam it for 20-30 minutes. Then rake it out with a fork and put in a colander until you’re ready to toss it in the sauce.

143 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 3:02:48pm

2nd attempt:

144 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:03:10pm
145 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 3:03:53pm

re: #131 klystron

Hmm, I like that idea, let me see what I can do.

146 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:04:21pm
147 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 3:05:33pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

2nd attempt:

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Not crazy about it. The other one had a more “dynamic” feel, this feels very static and ‘blah’

RBS

148 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:06:02pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

2nd attempt:

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Maybe go with text overlay on something a bit more…broken?

149 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:07:03pm
150 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 3:07:18pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

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Later, lizards.

Ahhhh, ‘tis nice to see wrenchwench back to posting the sign-off images.

151 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:08:12pm
152 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 3:08:52pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you could convince CCJ that his car would run faster if his tank was properly configured to hold bigger gallons.

Like Canuck gallons?

153 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:09:52pm

re: #148 darthstar

Maybe go with text overlay on something a bit more…broken?

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Or, in line with Klys’ suggestion, a road that’s been displaced sideways in an earthquake.

I looked for an image, but an image search with ‘road broken displaced’ turned up an alarming number of stomach-churning images of severe bone fractures. Yeesh.

154 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:10:12pm

re: #149 darthstar

A November 2013 report issued by the Connecticut State Attorney’s office concluded that Lanza acted alone and planned his actions, but no evidence collected provided any indication as to why he did so, or why he targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Note that terrorism requires an ideological (political or religious) motive.

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 3:11:51pm

UpChuck and fans are saying the Colorado bombing was just a firecracker???

o_O

156 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:12:08pm

re: #154 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Note that terrorism require an ideological (political or religious) motive.

There is that, but there are certainly other examples, like the guy in Pittsburgh who set a trap for police and killed 3 cops because Obama was coming for his guns.

Oh, no, wait - silly me. He was white. “Lone Wolf”, not terrorist.

157 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 3:12:28pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the overlay could work even on the photo, although I might go for a transparent box for the text.

I couldn’t do a full mockup without the photo, and honestly it would take quite a lot of throwing things at photoshop to pull off what I did by hand quickly. I’m sure it would be easy for someone who’s familiar with it, but …I’m not.

158 unproven innocence  Jan 7, 2015 3:13:22pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

There is that, but there are certainly other examples, like the guy in Pittsburgh who set a trap for police and killed 3 cops because Obama was coming for his guns.

Oh, no, wait - silly me. He was white. “Lone Wolf”, not terrorist.

Nope, no political motive there. ///

159 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:13:27pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck and fans are saying the Colorado bombing was just a firecracker???

o_O

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So incompetence means it wasn’t an attempted terrorist attack?

160 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 3:15:50pm

SMH

161 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 3:16:51pm
162 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:18:09pm

re: #142 darthstar

Thanks!

163 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:18:20pm

re: #148 darthstar

Maybe go with text overlay on something a bit more…broken?

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That’s a GREAT picture!

164 Kid A  Jan 7, 2015 3:19:08pm

I see Chuck’s fauxtographer ripped super shooter Zack Arias’s slogan “More signal. Less Noise” from his website at dedpxl and is using it on his twitter page.

165 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:19:22pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

There is that, but there are certainly other examples, like the guy in Pittsburgh who set a trap for police and killed 3 cops because Obama was coming for his guns.

Oh, no, wait - silly me. He was white. “Lone Wolf”, not terrorist.

If you mean examples of double standard, there maybe some, but when e.g. Brinsley shot the policemen for what appeared to be ideological motives, he wasn’t widely labeled a terrorist either (except maybe by the usual suspects).

166 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 3:19:31pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a cool idea, though I’m not sure my photo editing skills are up to the challenge. :P

As one of resident graphic artist around here, I could lend a hand. But, I also don’t want to step on any toes, offend anyone, turn anything into a one-up demo, be out of line with LGF policy, etc., etc.

I do see some simple changes that could make a difference.

Let me know if you want any assistance and if it is cool to do so.

167 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:23:45pm

re: #165 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

If you mean examples of double standard, there maybe some, but when e.g. Brinsley shot the policemen for what appeared to be ideological motives, he wasn’t widely labeled a terrorist either (aside maybe by the usual suspects).

My point was to concur with your post about terrorism having a political motive, while pointing out that the double standard expressed in the tweet you responded to is real. But Sandy Hook is a not an example of it.

Probably the most extreme example was the guy, former CIA official mentioned either above or in an earlier thread, who said this was the worst incident since the London bombings, completely ignoring Anders Breivik.

168 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 3:26:16pm

WTF
TCOT has this meme going on that Obama called the Charlie Hebdo massacre “workplace violence” and not “terrorism”

They are just in their own little hermetically sealed fact free universe.

169 urbanmeemaw  Jan 7, 2015 3:26:38pm

re: #21 darthstar

Cool…have we started looking for the NAACP bomber(s) yet? Or was that just a bad apple and we don’t want to upset people with unfair prying into their lives?

The media are still trying to determine if an African American can somehow be linked to the bombing. before they decide if it’s a story or not..

170 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:26:55pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

2nd attempt:

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How about something like this.

171 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:27:58pm

re: #163 WhatEVs

That’s a GREAT picture!

You’ll need to find the owner though if you want to use it. I like it. Nice use of black and white with the light.

172 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 3:28:15pm
173 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:28:28pm

“Terrorism” is like “genocide” in one respect - lots of folks use it as a synonym for mass murder. It’s not.

174 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 3:28:30pm

re: #170 WhatEVs

How about something like this.

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I like that one. :)

RBS

175 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:28:33pm

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

WTF
TCOT has this meme going on that Obama called the Charlie Hebdo massacre “workplace violence” and not “terrorism”

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They are just in their own little hermetically sealed fact free universe.

You know, it really doesn’t matter what reality is anymore.

176 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 3:28:38pm

re: #170 WhatEVs

Yep…just get rights so you don’t get told to change it after you publish.

177 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:29:09pm

re: #173 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“Terrorism” is like “genocide” in one respect - lots of folks use it as a synonym for mass murder. It’s not.

Yes. Terrorism doesn’t even require actual death.

178 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:30:20pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #176 darthstar

Yep…just get rights so you don’t get told to change it after you publish.

Most definitely. I’d leave that to, uhm, Tom. :-)

But if you want some basic help like that, I can do it. ObserverArt could likely do a far and away better job than I, though.

179 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 3:31:59pm

re: #171 darthstar

You’ll need to find the owner though if you want to use it. I like it. Nice use of black and white with the light.

I thought you could just slap your copyright logo on it and be legal. ////

180 Mike Lamb  Jan 7, 2015 3:32:05pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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Because CCJ reports his news like Kevin Neelon’s sign off on “Weekend Report”…”I’m Kevin Neelon, and that’s news to me.”

181 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 3:32:41pm

re: #173 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“Terrorism” is like “genocide” in one respect - lots of folks use it as a synonym for mass murder. It’s not.

It’s a specific method for a specific goal.

182 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:33:01pm

Evening Lizardim from the really, REALLY cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this really FRICKIN’ cold day? Did I mention it’s ridiculously cold?

183 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 3:33:45pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, it really doesn’t matter what reality is anymore.

Apparently reality is in the Id of the beholder.

184 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:34:09pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the really, REALLY cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this really FRICKIN’ cold day? Did I mention it’s ridiculously cold?

It’s colder in most of the states than where I am in Canuckistan. Sorry ‘bout that.

185 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:34:28pm

re: #184 WhatEVs

It’s colder in most of the states than where I am in Canuckistan. Sorry ‘bout that.

Dammit, Canada.

186 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 3:34:54pm

re: #131 klystron

Thanks SO much for the sketch, the visual reference made it a LOT easier to put this together! Ok, attempt the third:

187 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 3:35:27pm

re: #185 thedopefishlives

Dammit, Canada.

You push your TV shows on us, we push our weather on you.

188 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:35:35pm

re: #184 WhatEVs

It’s colder in most of the states than where I am in Canuckistan. Sorry ‘bout that.

We need to build the fence on the NORTHERN border to keep out undocumented cold fronts!

189 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 3:36:02pm

re: #185 thedopefishlives

Dammit, Canada.

Sorry bout that, eh!

190 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:36:09pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks SO much for the sketch, the visual reference made it a LOT easier to put this together! Ok, attempt the third:

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That’s nice. Put your name in the lower left corner so it displays more prominently. Try a upper/lower case font for your name, too.

191 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 3:36:24pm

re: #188 Blind Frog Belly White

We need to build the fence on the NORTHERN border to keep out undocumented cold fronts!

Are you talking about Pamela Anderson?

192 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:36:54pm

re: #187 b_sharp

You push your TV shows on us, we push our weather on you.

To be fair, I think we got the better end of that deal.

193 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:37:50pm

re: #187 b_sharp

You push your TV shows on us, we push our weather on you.

Yeah, but we film the TV shows in Canada. Then we call it New York.

194 Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2015 3:38:03pm
195 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 3:38:29pm

How is it possible for a professional photographer to actually believe this shit?

It goes against the very fundamentals of how raster image files are constructed.

196 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:38:35pm

I am watching a show called Flashpoint.

Guy 1: He’s using a dummy account.

Guy 2: How do you know he’s using a dummy account.

Guy 1: Because it’s called “Dummy account”.

Awesome.

197 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 3:38:59pm

re: #193 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but we film the TV shows in Canada. Then we call it New York.

I remember a line from MST3K, “this film has the stench of Canada all over it”

RBS

198 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:39:46pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

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He is… The Most Interesting Man In The World.

199 Jack Burton  Jan 7, 2015 3:39:46pm

re: #197 RealityBasedSteve

I remember a line from MST3K, “this film has the stench of Canada all over it”

RBS

Too bad the film in question was actually South African….

But we did get the many names of David Ryder out of it.

200 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:40:35pm

re: #198 thedopefishlives

He is… The Most Interesting Delusional Man In The World.

FIFY?

201 Mike Lamb  Jan 7, 2015 3:40:39pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the really, REALLY cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this really FRICKIN’ cold day? Did I mention it’s ridiculously cold?

It was 78 in Phoenix.

202 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:40:51pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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How is it possible for a professional photographer to actually believe this shit?

It goes against the very fundamentals of how raster image files are constructed.

Anyone who has a basic working knowledge of what a pixel is should know better. If they don’t, they need to get sent back to high school computer camp.

203 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 3:40:53pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks SO much for the sketch, the visual reference made it a LOT easier to put this together! Ok, attempt the third:

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Gettin’ there.

One quick suggestion…make your cut so that it cuts only the road. You go into the land/mountain a bit.

And for some extra dynamics, make the cut have some taper or multiple edges so that it becomes a graphic element beyond geometric.

…don’t get me going…

204 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 3:40:59pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

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So, when we call him a bigot, should we pronounce it ‘bee-GO’?

205 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 3:41:05pm

It bears saying that Bill Donohue is exactly the sort of loud-mouthed censorian that Charlie Hebdo has delighted in lampooning over the years.

206 urbanmeemaw  Jan 7, 2015 3:41:07pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

Or, in line with Klys’ suggestion, a road that’s been displaced sideways in an earthquake.

I looked for an image, but an image search with ‘road broken displaced’ turned up an alarming number of stomach-churning images of severe bone fractures. Yeesh.

Or adding cracks in the road of your design and putting your title in the cracks? I love the colors you’ve chosen and the basic design. I just agree with others here that the concept of “broken” needs to be more visual.

207 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:41:48pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Well then, he should read some Voltaire. Écrasez l’Infâme!

208 b.d.  Jan 7, 2015 3:42:11pm

People hate Chuck in many different languages.

209 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 3:43:33pm

FYI, IMP is a scientific oriented program. It’s used primarily to automate tasks like counting the number of cells in a biology slide under a microscope. It’s not a forensic suite. Even if it was it couldn’t do what Chuck and his “expert” are claiming, because that’s not how raster image files work, ever.

Chucks “expert” lied to him, and he’s either too stupid to see it or too fundamentally dishonest to acknowledge the truth. Probably a combination of both.

210 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:44:39pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Wait. A photographer. Defends. Chuck’s. Nonsense.

I’ll sit here while it sinks in.

211 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:44:48pm
212 BeachDem  Jan 7, 2015 3:45:25pm

re: #104 klystron

I’m thinking it must be a nasty hangover. (Maybe today was the day he was driving to Bakersfield?)

That was yesterday; do try to keep up//

Today’s he’s taking on the Muslim world, solving crime in Paris (by translating anything and everything for anyone and everyone, because he’s fluent in French, y’all.) He’ll get back to the pixel problems and outing all other politicians who annoy him tomorrow—oh, and he might have to run for office because there’s nobody else who will do the right thing about Muslims or whatever.

He’s a very busy lad—it’s not easy saving the world (he DID stop two wars, ya know) one outrage at a time, but upchuck’s doing what he can.

213 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:46:18pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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How is it possible for a professional photographer to actually believe this shit?

It goes against the very fundamentals of how raster image files are constructed.

214 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 3:46:52pm

YEAH, BUT WERE THEY AWARD WINNIN JOURNALMALISTS LIKE CHUCK C JOHNSON!?

215 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 7, 2015 3:46:55pm

re: #119 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

So Donahue basically thinks no one should be allowed to poke fun of anyone’s religion? That’s very telling, isn’t it?

Yet we are to believe the Catholic League is a “civil rights” organization?

Except for atheists. Since they don’t hold any religion until it is convenient to claim that “no religion” is a religion for the sake of some stupid argument point.
//

216 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 3:47:45pm

re: #206 urbanmeemaw

Or adding cracks in the road of your design and putting your title in the cracks? I love the colors you’ve chosen and the basic design. I just agree with others here that the concept of “broken” needs to be more visual.

And, the cracks if used like an element would also make the top and bottom different image pieces from each other. That too adds some punch.

Centering and sameness are the enemies of 2D design. Negative space is as big as positive space.

…everyone, do your homework…///

217 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 3:48:14pm
218 b.d.  Jan 7, 2015 3:48:19pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

le vengeur de gingembre

219 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 3:48:48pm

re: #211 Kragar

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Good to hear. Now comes an even harder part: Finding out the foreign connections these slimeballs had. If they were indeed connected to Al Qaeda out of Yemen, then there’s a terror master down there who is badly in need of a Hellfire enema.

220 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 3:48:54pm

re: #214 Ace-o-aces

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YEAH, BUT WERE THEY AWARD WINNIN JOURNALMALISTS LIKE CHUCK C JOHNSON!?

I bet they didn’t even speak French.

221 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:48:57pm

Wingnut photography is a discipline in Creation Studies. That’s the only explanation I have.

222 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:49:10pm

Neil deGrasse Tyson Gets His Own Late Night Talk Show

Star Talk, which is also the name of the host’s popular podcast, will be taped in front of a live audience at the American Museum of Natural History’s Hayden Planetarium in New York City, where Tyson serves as director. It is scheduled to premiere some time in April.

223 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:49:23pm

Yeah, CCJ really torpedoed Tyson’s career.
///

224 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 3:50:08pm

re: #223 Kragar

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Yeah, CCJ really torpedoed Tyson’s career.
///

He did. Tyson could have won in 2016.

225 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 3:51:00pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the really, REALLY cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this really FRICKIN’ cold day? Did I mention it’s ridiculously cold?

Just sitting here waiting for the pipes to start freezing…

226 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 3:51:12pm

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Good to hear. Now comes an even harder part: Finding out the foreign connections these slimeballs had. If they were indeed connected to Al Qaeda out of Yemen, then there’s a terror master down there who is badly in need of a Hellfire enema.

Some of the EuroMaidan accounts said they recognized the gear as being Russian gear currently being used in the Ukraine. Wouldn’t be surprised if Russian troops are selling off their gear on the black market.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 3:52:06pm

re: #187 b_sharp

You push your TV shows on us, we push our weather on you.

You did enough already with the Beiber, thank you.
You can stop now.

228 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 3:52:24pm

re: #222 WhatEVs

Neil deGrasse Tyson Gets His Own Late Night Talk Show

But wait, didn’t CCJ just destroy him?

230 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2015 3:53:05pm

Ok, this is my final revision for now. Thanks for all the input folks.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 3:53:18pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

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ahhh, it all becomes clear now. UpChuck writes French with a Google-translate Boston accent…

232 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:53:51pm

Oh man…seriously?

Ben Carson’s Literary Agent: He Had ‘No Intention to Plagiarize’

Dr. Ben Carson’s literary agent recently apologized for the neurosurgeon’s apparent plagiarism from a website called socialismsucks.net, but explained that it was purely unintentional.

While Yates acknowledged the plagiarism, he explained it by saying the Carsons had done some sort of due diligence:

“The Carsons, in writing this book, did everything that they thought they were supposed to do to provide the source material for their book,” Yates said. “And both in terms of footnoting, providing attribution, as best they could. They delivered a completed manuscript to the publisher and they then relied on the editorial staff, which every author does.”

Added Yates: “The fact is we don’t know exactly what happened, because we haven’t had time to properly and adequately evaluate what happened once the manuscript was delivered to the publisher.”

“But in fairness to the publisher and everybody else, we’re trying to take the time to figure out historically and accurately what happened,” he said.

Oy.

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 3:53:52pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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How is it possible for a professional photographer to actually believe this shit?

It goes against the very fundamentals of how raster image files are constructed.

He’s not a professional, obviously.

234 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 3:54:22pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just sitting here waiting for the pipes to start freezing…

We got safely south of the Pea River yesterday, after 3 weeks in Birmingham. The wind from the Great White North started up about sunset—tonight to be 17f.

(The salt trucks are moving tonight in Birmingham. It won’t help them.)

235 WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2015 3:54:23pm

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

But wait, didn’t CCJ just destroy him?

Completely and tot…wait, wut?

236 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 7, 2015 3:55:24pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just sitting here waiting for the pipes to start freezing…

I’ve got taps open, cabinets open, heat higher than I usually keep it. I should be OK, but I’ll know for sure when I wake up in the AM and go to brush my teeth. Probably take my shower this evening just in case…

RBS

237 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 3:57:21pm

re: #226 Kragar

Some of the EuroMaidan accounts said they recognized the gear as being Russian gear currently being used in the Ukraine. Wouldn’t be surprised if Russian troops are selling off their gear on the black market.

Those rifles are old AKMS (Avtomat Kalashnikova Modernizirovanniy Skladnoy which means “Kalashnikov modernized automatic rifle with folding stock”) weapons. Some of those have indeed seen use in Ukraine but there’s been many of them floating around since the collapse of the USSR.

However, the most common AK among Putin’s proxies in Ukraine is the later AK-74, which differs from the AKM in using a 5.45x39mm round as opposed to the older rifle’s 7.62x39mm round.

The AKM’s wikipedia page is here.

238 b.d.  Jan 7, 2015 3:57:25pm

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

But wait, didn’t CCJ just destroy him?

That’s what happens to destroyed people, they get their own late night talk show.

//

239 Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2015 3:57:25pm

re: #154 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Note that terrorism requires an ideological (political or religious) motive.

So we are back to Dr. Tiller then.

240 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 3:59:18pm

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

So we are back to Dr. Tiller then.

Yes, Tiller’s murder can be seen as an act of terrorism.

241 Kragar  Jan 7, 2015 4:00:09pm
242 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:01:22pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

Yes, Tiller’s murder can be seen as was an act of Christian terrorism.

ftfy

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 4:03:06pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

We got safely south of the Pea River yesterday, after 3 weeks in Birmingham. The wind from the Great White North started up about sunset—tonight to be 17f.

(The salt trucks are moving tonight in Birmingham. It won’t help them.)

8F here at the moment, forecast to drop to -1 with a windchill of -10.
Plumbing in house is awful (house is pre-Civil War with a very scarey shallow crawlspace and plumbing was haphazardly installed sometime in the 1960s).

I want my new house finished before next winter!!!

244 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 4:05:02pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

8F here at the moment, forecast to drop to -1 with a windchill of -10.
Plumbing in house is awful (house is pre-Civil War with a very scarey shallow crawlspace and plumbing was haphazardly installed sometime in the 1960s).

I want my new house finished before next winter!!!

-2 degrees here right now, with a low of -10 for the next 3 nights. Thankfully, my house is only 20 years old and so I have nothing to worry about with respect to freezing pipes. However, the wind chill is still a serious mood killer.

245 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:05:14pm

As a quick primer on IDing AK-type rifles, Armament Research Services (ARES) has this excellent PDF. This a profession organization, not some group of gun-[self-censored]ers, so you can read their stuff without fear being subjected to wingnut DERP.

246 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:06:11pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

8F here at the moment, forecast to drop to -1 with a windchill of -10.
Plumbing in house is awful (house is pre-Civil War with a very scarey shallow crawlspace and plumbing was haphazardly installed sometime in the 1960s).

I want my new house finished before next winter!!!

You’re building the earth-sheltered design, no?

247 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 4:06:36pm

re: #236 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve got taps open, cabinets open, heat higher than I usually keep it. I should be OK, but I’ll know for sure when I wake up in the AM and go to brush my teeth. Probably take my shower this evening just in case…

RBS

I feel for you but I’m completely unfamiliar with your problem. Up here everything but shed style cabins have insulated walls and the water pipes are always on the warm side of exterior walls but only if they can’t be placed in interior walls. Even our water supply lines are far enough underground they never freeze.

Good luck, I hear broken pipes from freezing is pretty common.

248 funky chicken  Jan 7, 2015 4:06:42pm

Has anybody gone over to NRO to see how they have responded to their hero’s little terror apologia?

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 4:07:17pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

You’re building the earth-sheltered design, no?

Indeed.

250 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 4:08:04pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed.

Only way to go.

251 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:09:39pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed.

Should serve you well. The worst siege of weather we ever had was in Elizabethtown, KY. (And we’ve lived in Seoul, northern NJ, and the foothills of the Alps.)

252 ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2015 4:12:29pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

8F here at the moment, forecast to drop to -1 with a windchill of -10.
Plumbing in house is awful (house is pre-Civil War with a very scarey shallow crawlspace and plumbing was haphazardly installed sometime in the 1960s).

I want my new house finished before next winter!!!

6° here…looking like we are headed for -8° with winds 10-20 mph straight out of the west.

If the winds would just die down it wouldn’t be so bad.

My old bricks lose this battle. And the west winds attack me in the front with all the windows, doors, dormers…err, all the holes.

But dammit…I’ll get through it.

253 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:14:19pm

I just can’t even

254 LastYearsMan  Jan 7, 2015 4:15:22pm

Ugh, Donohue. Just for him, here are a couple of cartoons that Martin Luther commissioned of the pope, back in the early 16th century.

Demon pooping out the church
Pooping on the pope
255 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:16:32pm

re: #248 funky chicken

Has anybody gone over to NRO to see how they have responded to their hero’s little terror apologia?

Only thing I could find was this tweet:

256 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 4:16:38pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Should serve you well. The worst siege of weather we ever had was in Elizabethtown, KY. (And we’ve lived in Seoul, Northern NJ, and the foothills of the Alps.)

An added benefit is that the water supply is three springs within the excavation that feed a 1,000+gallon cistern buried inside and under the house (the cistern fills up in less than 24 hours). I won’t have to worry about frozen plumbing at all.

257 Kid A  Jan 7, 2015 4:18:36pm

Frank, what is this WTS that you have disgraced, says Peter Douche?

258 Kid A  Jan 7, 2015 4:19:06pm

^^^or Kragar.

259 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:19:25pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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What she said was: TEH EBBILLL JUICE HAV STAGED A FALSE FLAG A-TACK!! FER REALZ!!1

260 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 4:20:05pm

Bill Donohue

so much easier for the rest of us if all the fundamentalists get together in one group

261 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:20:11pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

I wonder who is it that she is quoting…

262 BeachDem  Jan 7, 2015 4:22:09pm

The Cleveland cop who killed Tamir Rice? Not only did he have that “unfortunate” experience with the Independence force, he flunked the written exam for the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Dept. before Cleveland snatched him up. Great work checking his background, guys.

Timothy Loehmann took the exam in September 2013 and scored a 46 percent on the cognitive exam administered by the department. The department considers a 70 percent a passing score.

talkingpointsmemo.com

263 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 4:22:24pm

re: #260 dog philosopher

Bill Donohue

so much easier for the rest of us if all the fundamentalists get together in one group

“Okay, everyone. Just cluster together where the big X is painted on the ground there. That’s good. Now if you could all please stand still for just a minute….”

264 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 4:23:20pm

re: #262 BeachDem

The Cleveland cop who killed Tamir Rice? Not only did he have that “unfortunate” experience with the Independence force, he flunked the written exam for the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Dept. before Cleveland snatched him up. Great work checking his background, guys.

Timothy Loehmann took the exam in September 2013 and scored a 46 percent on the cognitive exam administered by the department. The department considers a 70 percent a passing score.

talkingpointsmemo.com

But, you know, we have to stand behind the police, no matter what.
///

265 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 4:24:05pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

An added benefit is that the water supply is three springs within the excavation that feed a 1,000+gallon cistern buried inside and under the house (the cistern fills up in less than 24 hours). I won’t have to worry about frozen plumbing at all.

Now that is planning.

266 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:24:12pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

“Say this for Bill Donohue: He zigs when others zag. “

That’s ironically appropriate, because “zig” is pronounced as “sieg”, as in “Sieg heil”.

267 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 4:24:41pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, we have to stand behind the police, no matter what.
///

Mostly because standing in front of them can be bloody dangerous.

268 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:25:35pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

But NR has lots on the attack, from good takes such as from Tom Rogan, who called it “an attack on free thought and creative expression” (which it is), to Andrew C. McCarthy’s “BLAME SHARIA!!1” piece, whose byline is “Intolerance for free expression is rooted in classical Islam.”

Note: The link to Rogan’s article is direct, McCarthy’s piece is linked through ‘donotlink’ to deny him extra page traffic for his nastiness.

269 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:25:49pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

“Okay, everyone. Just cluster together where the big X is painted on the ground there. That’s good. Now if you could all please stand still for just a minute….”

In the very center of the evil Pentagon’s central courtyard was—a snack bar. It was known as “Ground Zero”.

270 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:28:56pm

re: #267 b_sharp

Mostly because standing in front of them can be bloody dangerous.

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 4:29:08pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Not clicking on any NR link.

272 Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2015 4:30:44pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s not a professional, obviously.

He was the only one in the clubhouse when Upchuck needed a photographer, so he got the job. Plus he had a bitchin’ cellphone camera.

273 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:31:13pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

True enough, but the “Good Cop” is fading into folklore. Some hookers do have hearts of gold.

274 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:31:32pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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jewishjournal.com

The founder of the Free Gaza Movement, which uses flotillas in trying to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza, tweeted that Zionists were responsible for the Holocaust, then apologized.
Greta Berlin tweeted that she meant to post the tweet to her private Facebook account rather than the organization’s Twitter account.
The original tweet, sent Sept. 30 from @freegazaorg, read that “Zionists operated the concentration camps and helped murder millions of innocent Jews.” It linked to a video of Eustace Mullins, a conspiracy theorist, claiming that the word “Nazi” combines the words “National Socialist” and “Zionist.” Mullins died in 2010.
“I posted it from Facebook, not realizing that my private account was connected to the FG account. I apologise,” Berlin tweeted.

275 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:34:44pm

re: #274 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

jewishjournal.com

What a feckin idjit

276 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:35:10pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

True enough, but the “Good Cop” is fading into folklore. Some hookers do have hearts of gold.

I don’t agree, at all.

277 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:35:18pm

re: #266 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“Say this for Bill Donohue: He zigs when others zag. “

That’s ironically appropriate, because “zig” is pronounced as “sieg”, as in “Sieg heil”.

So Bill ‘siegged’ when he should have ‘sagged’.

278 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:35:43pm

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree, at all.

About the cops or the hookers?

279 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2015 4:36:04pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

And protested non-stop until they change their racial profiling and ingrained biased policies against those who aren’t part of the “brotherhood”.

280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:37:07pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

There’s a Russian colloquial verb “zigovat’”, denoting exactly that hand gesture, so this would be a funny tweet for most Russian-speaking persons ;)

281 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 4:37:41pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

I’m not doing that D_F. I understand that cops do dangerous jobs and it is a tragedy when one of them dies doing her job, but that in no way affects what they do that isn’t acceptable, unless you suggest that dangerous jobs warrant incompetent and callous actions. In that case there are quite a few jobs out there that should absolve heinous actions.

282 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 4:37:42pm

re: #257 Kid A

Frank, what is this WTS that you have disgraced, says Peter Douche?

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No idea.

WTS Tax Legal Consulting

Or maybe this

WTS is an international organization dedicated to building the future of transportation through the global advancement of women.

Or this.

Westminster Theological Seminary

Maybe he thinks I’m this guy. If so, gross! Them’s fightin’ words.

283 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:37:49pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

So Bill ‘siegged’ when he should have ‘sagged’.

Well here’s some music for his next speech:

INDIANA JONES and The Last Crusade: Burning Books Nazy Party - Der Koniggratzer March (1989)

284 funky chicken  Jan 7, 2015 4:39:18pm

re: #262 BeachDem

The Cleveland cop who killed Tamir Rice? Not only did he have that “unfortunate” experience with the Independence force, he flunked the written exam for the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Dept. before Cleveland snatched him up. Great work checking his background, guys.

Timothy Loehmann took the exam in September 2013 and scored a 46 percent on the cognitive exam administered by the department. The department considers a 70 percent a passing score.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Sounds like the Cleveland PD needs to raise its standards. Probably its salaries as well.

285 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:39:41pm

re: #281 b_sharp

I’m not doing that D_F. I understand that cops do dangerous jobs and it is a tragedy when one of them dies doing her job, but that in no way affects what they do that isn’t acceptable, unless you suggest that dangerous jobs warrant incompetence and callous actions. In that case there are quite a few jobs out there that should absolve heinous actions.

I understand, I just felt it needed to be said.

286 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:41:55pm

re: #280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Reading that as “funny”.

287 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:42:40pm

Play the Marseillaise. Play it!
Casablanca La Marseillaise

288 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:42:49pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

Fixed.

289 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:46:51pm

WTF Reuters

290 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:48:09pm

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

WTF Reuters

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They were ID’d early as French nationals. (One is dead, two in custody now.)

291 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 4:48:33pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

It’s not just the mistakes. It’s the attitude, most clearly being currently expressed by the NYPD’s temper tantrum aimed at the Mayor. Worse than that is the idea that the Mayor should resign because the police don’t like him. It’s the sort of thinking that leads to military dictatorships and police states.

292 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:48:48pm

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

WTF Reuters

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That one’s dated. The French police caught two of the bastards and flatlined the third.

293 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 4:50:05pm
294 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:50:12pm

re: #290 Decatur Deb

They were ID’d early as French nationals. (One is dead, two in custody now.)

Reuters headline could have said Police Seek French-Born Terror Suspects the way they phrased it, makes it sound like random French guys.

295 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 4:51:31pm

Now 7F and windchill of -14.
Plumbing still flowing and the thermostat-controlled heat tape under the kitchen sink hasn’t kicked on yet.

But it’s still early evening…

296 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 4:51:49pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

Okay, sure, just as long as you laud sanitation workers for doing a statistically even more dangerous job, along with construction laborers, roofers, loggers, farmers / ranchers, commercial fishermen, steel workers and truck drivers. Do you ever “laud” all or even any of those occupations for doing their jobs well? If not, why not?

297 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 4:51:52pm

re: #294 The Vicious Babushka

Reuters headline could have said Police Seek French-Born Terror Suspects the way they phrased it, makes it sound like random French guys.

Round up the usual French-born suspects.

298 bratwurst  Jan 7, 2015 4:52:43pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

But NR has lots on the attack, from good takes such as from Tom Rogan, who called it “an attack on free thought and creative expression” (which it is), to Andrew C. McCarthy’s “BLAME SHARIA!!1” piece, whose byline is “Intolerance for free expression is rooted in classical Islam.”

I make it a point to ignore publications that cater to organized hate the way McCarthy’s piece does no matter what else they print. I feel safe in saying that most of the people reading this would agree with me. You, on the other hand, are willing to accept every single transgression of National Review. When you get pushback here to your regular posting of links to that site, this is the reason why.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 7, 2015 4:52:48pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now 7F and windchill of -14.
Plumbing still flowing and the thermostat-controlled heat tape under the kitchen sink hasn’t kicked on yet.

But it’s still early evening…

18 F with a steady breeze blowing here in Philly. Heat is kicking on periodically and I’ve moved all the window sill plants onto the sideboard or dining room table.

300 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 4:54:01pm

re: #298 bratwurst

I make it a point to ignore publications that cater to organized hate the way McCarthy’s piece does no matter what else they print. I feel safe in saying that most of the people reading this would agree with me. You, on the other hand, are willing to accept every single transgression of National Review. When you get pushback here to your regular posting of links to that site, this is the reason why.

THIS. This this this this this.

301 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 4:54:08pm
302 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 7, 2015 4:54:49pm

freefall.purrsia.com

When robots get upset they commit random acts of construction!
;)

303 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 4:55:45pm

re: #298 bratwurst

So noted.

304 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 4:57:01pm

re: #298 bratwurst

I make it a point to ignore publications that cater to organized hate the way McCarthy’s piece does no matter what else they print. I feel safe in saying that most of the people reading this would agree with me. You, on the other hand, are willing to accept every single transgression of National Review. When you get pushback here to your regular posting of links to that site, this is the reason why.

I’m sure that the Stormfront newsletter probably has nice recipes every now and then, too.

305 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 4:59:00pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Quoting NR is like quoting CounterPunch, Arutz Sheva or Russia Today. It may have a good point now and then (rarely), it may have some “mainstream” people writing for it (fools), but it’s just too tainted. I’m not a purist by any measure, and I don’t even hold its racist history against it (some liberal publications also have “history”), but sometimes enough is enough.

306 Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2015 5:02:27pm

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

18 F with a steady breeze blowing here in Philly. Heat is kicking on periodically and I’ve moved all the window sill plants onto the sideboard or dining room table.

5 degrees and windy here on the other side of PA. Not much snow being called for, just bitter cold.

307 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 5:02:33pm

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure that the Stormfront newsletter probably has nice recipes every now and then, too.

I love their German Chocolate Cake:

“1. Capture a field kitchen…”

—credit: Laugh-In

308 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 5:02:48pm

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

Okay, sure, just as long as you laud sanitation workers for doing a statistically even more dangerous job, along with construction laborers, roofers, loggers, farmers / ranchers, commercial fishermen, steel workers and truck drivers. Do you ever “laud” all or even any of those occupations for doing their jobs well? If not, why not?

This is an interesting point. Yet if you brought it up in many places, you’dfind yourself swarmed with people calling you all sorts of nasty names, and accusing you of being anti-cop.

At some point, we started worshipping soldiers and policemen.

309 Dark_Falcon  Jan 7, 2015 5:04:49pm

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

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The Paris police had Beretta Model 92Gs, so they were armed. Those pistols were badly overmatched by the terrorists’ AKM assault rifles. So I’m afraid concealed carry arguments don’t work in this case.

BBL

310 funky chicken  Jan 7, 2015 5:05:41pm

re: #298 bratwurst

I make it a point to ignore publications that cater to organized hate the way McCarthy’s piece does no matter what else they print. I feel safe in saying that most of the people reading this would agree with me. You, on the other hand, are willing to accept every single transgression of National Review. When you get pushback here to your regular posting of links to that site, this is the reason why.

He was answering a question I asked.

311 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:07:09pm

re: #310 funky chicken

He was answering a question I asked.

That’s a fair point. But it’s also not the first time.

312 makeitstop  Jan 7, 2015 5:07:52pm

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

At some point, we started worshipping soldiers and policemen.

Post-9/11, thanks to Bush the Lesser proclaiming every cop, soldier and First Reponder as ‘heroes.’

And the country was scared enough to buy it.

313 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 5:10:04pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

The Paris police had Beretta Model 92Gs, so they were armed. Those pistols were badly overmatched by the terrorists’ AKM assault rifles. So I’m afraid concealed carry arguments don’t work in this case.

BBL

Dark, concealed carry arguments don’t really work much of anywhere. For the most part they’re based in fantasy. I know a VERY few gun owners who have actually trained in combat handgunnery. The others just seem to assume they’ll win by moral superiority, I guess.

But today I saw Eric Bolling saying this attack proves we shouldn’t limit the militarization of the police.

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 7, 2015 5:11:27pm

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

This is an interesting point. Yet if you brought it up in many places, you’dfind yourself swarmed with people calling you all sorts of nasty names, and accusing you of being anti-cop.

At some point, we started worshipping soldiers and policemen.

Everybody loves a man in a uniform.
/

315 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 5:12:10pm

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

Okay, sure, just as long as you laud sanitation workers for doing a statistically even more dangerous job, along with construction laborers, roofers, loggers, farmers / ranchers, commercial fishermen, steel workers and truck drivers. Do you ever “laud” all or even any of those occupations for doing their jobs well? If not, why not?

i would point out that high school teachers, especially public high school teachers, do an essential and often dangerous job as well

if you don’t think it’s dangerous, try hanging around some homerooms in poor neighborhoods for a few weeks

but for these people who we have entrusted with the education of our youth, the gop seems to have only the back of the hand to give them

316 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 5:12:20pm

re: #314 Feline Fearless Leader

Everybody loves a man in a uniform.
/

First thought: Village People.

317 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 5:13:12pm

re: #315 dog philosopher

i would point out that high school teachers, especially public high school teachers, do an essential and often dangerous job as well

if you don’t think it’s dangerous, try hanging around some homerooms in poor neighborhoods for a few weeks

but for these people who we have entrusted with the education of our youth, the gop seems to have only the back of the hand to give them

Well, that’s because they had the gall to unionize.

As opposed to the saintly police, who slave away without the benefits of collective bargaining.

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318 bratwurst  Jan 7, 2015 5:14:22pm
319 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 5:15:54pm

re: #318 bratwurst

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Don’t make me pull out the picture of Sean Connery in a red diaper…
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320 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 5:16:05pm

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Round up the usual French-born suspects.

All the usual suspects.

321 BeachDem  Jan 7, 2015 5:17:04pm

All other wingnuts competing for most idiotic conversation of the day can give it up and go home—Fox wins AGAIN!

…Fox News hosts responded to a terrorist attack in Paris on Wednesday by advising Americans to buy more guns…

“There’s been a serious push from the left saying let’s not over-militarize our cops. That should put an end to that discussion right now. We should over-militarize, we should continue to do that.”…

…we are being hunted,” co-host Harris Faulkner said. “These guys make it very clear when they entered that newspaper’s offices, we are being hunted. So, how would you like for us to be protected?”…

“I think that the best thing Americans can do is arm themselves,” Montgomery argued.

“Me too!” Bolling exclaimed.

Bream pointed out that all of the gunmen in Paris attack were wearing masks so it was too early to make assumptions about what color they were.

“Do we even know what color they were, what the tone of their skin was? I mean, what if they didn’t look like typical bad guys?”

rawstory.com

I feel my brain cells melting away…

322 lawhawk  Jan 7, 2015 5:18:13pm
323 funky chicken  Jan 7, 2015 5:18:44pm

re: #315 dog philosopher

i would point out that high school teachers, especially public high school teachers, do an essential and often dangerous job as well

if you don’t think it’s dangerous, try hanging around some homerooms in poor neighborhoods for a few weeks

but for these people who we have entrusted with the education of our youth, the gop seems to have only the back of the hand to give them

I would argue that we should raise respect (and yes, salaries) for teachers and first responders, and hire more of them. Ask an EMT what they make some time…the starting salary here in the Oklahoma City area is around 10 bucks an hour.

324 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:18:51pm

re: #318 bratwurst

Tell that to Americans.

///sorry

325 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 5:19:01pm

re: #321 BeachDem

“Do we even know what color they were, what the tone of their skin was? I mean, what if they didn’t look like typical bad guys?”

fortunately for this guy they were wearing black so that he could tell they were bad

326 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 5:19:09pm

re: #321 BeachDem

All other wingnuts competing for most idiotic conversation of the day can give it up and go home—Fox wins AGAIN!
…snip
“Do we even know what color they were, what the tone of their skin was? I mean, what if they didn’t look like typical bad guys?”

rawstory.com

I feel my brain cells melting away…

Damn, I miss Boris and Natasha.

327 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 7, 2015 5:20:51pm

If you’ve been following UpChuck’s Twitter timeline, this is for you.

PREMIÉRE NOUVELLE!: Terroristes a décapité les dirigeants de France
gotnwes.com

328 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 5:21:09pm

re: #319 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me pull out the picture of Sean Connery in a red diaper…
///

For the love of Zod, DON’T!

329 funky chicken  Jan 7, 2015 5:21:10pm

re: #321 BeachDem

Those yokels carrying their AKs in Wal-Mart are the folks that will save our society!

330 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:21:11pm

re: #326 Decatur Deb

Damn, I miss Boris and Natasha.

Vot ebaut ze muz?

331 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 5:21:44pm

re: #326 Decatur Deb

Damn, I miss Boris and Natasha.

when i was a kid i was always confused becuz boris and natasha sounded like russians, but fearless leader looked and sounded like a nazi

keel moose and sqvirrel

332 b_sharp  Jan 7, 2015 5:23:04pm

re: #330 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Vot ebaut ze muz?

I’d worry more about the SQUIRREL!!

333 Stoatly  Jan 7, 2015 5:23:22pm

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

At some point, we started worshipping soldiers and policemen.

Only when it suits - Kipling’s “Tommy Atkins” is the best telling of the fickle way we’ve put them on a pedestal or kicked them to the gutter down the centuries

334 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:24:40pm

re: #332 b_sharp

I’d worry more about the SQUIRREL!!

Skvirel von’t get evey aizer.

335 Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2015 5:24:56pm

re: #331 dog philosopher

when i was a kid i was always confused becuz boris and natasha sounded like russians, but fearless leader looked and sounded like a nazi

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keel moose and sqvirrel

Toddlers raised in the class struggle know a commissar when they see one.

336 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 5:25:17pm
337 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 5:26:31pm

If you thought you were having a bad day…

338 elizajane  Jan 7, 2015 5:31:03pm

One suspect dead, two others in custody in Paris. Well done France, fast work.
nbcnews.com

Alternative rumor is that the younger guy turned himself in and other two are still at large. En francais:
france24.com

339 De Kolta Chair  Jan 7, 2015 5:32:00pm

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

If you thought you were having a bad day…

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Takers and givers, takers and givers…

340 Jenner7  Jan 7, 2015 5:32:29pm

Ugh. Just evil.

341 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 5:36:46pm

FUCKING IDIOT==>

342 bratwurst  Jan 7, 2015 5:37:18pm

re: #340 Jenner7

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Ugh. Just evil.

That “gentleman” is “editor” of “Pocketful of Liberty” which promises “some of the best conservative and libertarian commentary on the web”.

Another classic example of conservative comedy.

343 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:38:06pm

re: #340 Jenner7

Conservative Contributor at @pocketliberty Host: PocketCast of Liberty Co-host: @cinematicsnobs Panelist: @BureauOfATF I say the things you can’t.

Oh, and he looks like Glenn Beck’s bastard son.

344 klystron  Jan 7, 2015 5:39:04pm

re: #342 bratwurst

That “gentleman” is “editor” of “Pocketful Full of Liberty” which promises “some of the best conservative and libertarian commentary on the web”.

Another classic example of conservative comedy.

I made the mistake of looking and I feel sick to my stomach.

345 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 5:42:01pm

re: #344 klystron

I made the mistake of looking and I feel sick to my stomach.

Conservative comedy is an oxymoron.

346 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 7, 2015 5:42:40pm

re: #345 thedopefishlives

Conservative comedy is an oxymoron.

Conservative comedy is an oxycontin addict. And a moron.

347 goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2015 5:43:41pm
348 #FergusonFireside  Jan 7, 2015 5:46:18pm

Oh boy, Anderson Cooper has anti Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali on right now.

Fucking A.

349 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 5:49:02pm

I call it False-Flagitis.

350 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2015 5:50:53pm

re: #349 Ace-o-aces

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I call it False-Flagitis.

Throw a False Flag on the play.

351 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 7, 2015 5:51:54pm

Self-falseflagellation.

352 thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2015 5:53:22pm

re: #350 Blind Frog Belly White

Throw a False Flag on the play.

Don’t let any Lions fans hear you say that.///

353 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 7, 2015 5:53:59pm

Well intention-ed public safety law goes awry…
NY SAFE Act-Allegedly Veteran’s Guns Confiscated After Treatment for Insomnia
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

354 lostlakehiker  Jan 7, 2015 5:54:44pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

The gender and religion of the attackers in the Paris atrocity are known. Not inferred, known.

In the case of the Colorado Springs attack, the gender of the suspect was known, and was mentioned. Of course. But since he didn’t have a gun that anybody saw, he couldn’t be called a gunman. He didn’t announce his religion if any.

In the one case, the news isn’t giving out all sorts of details they don’t have, about an attack that, happily, fizzled. Incompetence among terrorists is welcome, but is hardly big news. He’ll be caught, and under-sentenced.

In the other case, the news is giving out all sorts of details that they do have, about an attack that, unhappily, succeeded all too well. Effective execution among terrorists is unwelcome, and it is big news when it reaches the scale of what we saw today. The killers may or may not be caught. Since France doesn’t have a death penalty, they too will be under-sentenced. So the two cases have a little in common: both are terrorism, and in both cases, the authorities will let the offender(s) off easier than they should.

355 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 5:55:13pm
356 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 5:55:51pm

re: #355 Targetpractice

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Fortunately for now and the next two years none of that stupid shit will become law.

357 Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2015 5:56:25pm

re: #356 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Fortunately for now and the next two years none of that stupid shit will become law.

We hope.

358 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 7, 2015 5:57:12pm

Crackerjack AWJ UpChuck on his website says a site is down, because he is linking to this mangled URL
gotnews dot com/breaking-charliehebdo-terrorists-attended-radical-mosque-paris-jesuischarlie/%20http://liberation.fr

if you take all the extra shit off, it works fine.
liberation.fr

359 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2015 5:57:46pm

re: #354 lostlakehiker

You really like over-thinking things, don’t you?

360 Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2015 5:57:53pm

Looks like Donohue has some serious competition for worst reaction to the Paris Shooting.

361 bratwurst  Jan 7, 2015 5:58:49pm

re: #354 lostlakehiker

Since France doesn’t have a death penalty, they too will be under-sentenced.

Says you.

362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 5:58:58pm

cnn.com has a screaming headline about THE VICTIMS WERE TARGETED.

Dude, I think we knew that.

cnn.com turning into CCJ’s Goat News.

363 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 7, 2015 5:59:27pm

re: #360 Ace-o-aces

Looks like Donohue has some serious competition for worst reaction to the Paris Shooting.

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It’s just like the Holocaust. //

364 dog philosopher  Jan 7, 2015 6:07:27pm

re: #361 bratwurst

Says you.

sometimes i take the position of ‘killin’s too good for em. let em rot in jail”

365 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 7, 2015 6:36:35pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Let’s not rag too much on cops, though. Two cops in NYC got wounded on Monday and two Paris cops got killed today. Criticize police mistakes, certainly, but let’s always keep in mind that police do an essential and dangerous job, and they should be lauded when they do it well.

Dangerous? Yes. But not top 10 dangerous. Do we have similar concerns for commercial fishermen, loggers, or even farmers?

366 TedStriker  Jan 7, 2015 6:39:41pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

True enough, but the “Good Cop” is fading into folklore. Some hookers do have hearts of gold.

The public image of Officer Friendly is dead and buried, incinerated and pissed on.

Ain’t it a fucking shame?

367 darthstar  Jan 7, 2015 7:03:00pm
368 TedStriker  Jan 7, 2015 7:10:06pm

re: #342 bratwurst

That “gentleman” is “editor” of “Pocketful of Liberty” which promises “some of the best conservative and libertarian commentary on the web”.

Another classic example of conservative comedy.

The very, very first thing that I thought of when I saw “Pocketful of Liberty” were these lyrics from Rage Against the Machine’s “Bulls on Parade”:

They rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells

Something tells me this is no mere coincidence.


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