Estimated 1 Million People Turn Out in Paris to Support Charlie Hebdo

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An enormous crowd has turned out in Paris for a demonstration of solidarity with French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo, and the US right wing is going utterly batshit nuts denouncing President Obama for not being there. Because everyone knows a US president can just pick up and go anywhere he wants, on the spur of the moment.

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1 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 11:30:38am
2 dell*nix  Jan 11, 2015 11:32:07am

Did not someone post the secret service would have said No? And for good reason with such large crowds.

3 dell*nix  Jan 11, 2015 11:35:18am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

When an appliance of mine starts to smell hot or gets to feel hot it gets turned off. Simply common sense.

4 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 11:37:56am

This is really awesome that so many people showed up for this.

Unity, community, shared sorrow.

Not defiance or uniting for battle.

5 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 11:38:20am

Heartening to see the crowds. As for Attkisson… “Halp! My mailbox is spying on me! And I’m sure the vacuum and the TV are conspiring to kill me!”

6 b.d.  Jan 11, 2015 11:38:25am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Poor Sharyl, same thing happened to that centrifuge that I picked up in Tehran.

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7 Dr Lizardo  Jan 11, 2015 11:40:04am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

IT WAS THE PHONE COMPANY*, MAN!!!

*= James Coburn movie reference

8 b.d.  Jan 11, 2015 11:40:06am

The only thing that would have pissed off the baggers more than Obama not attending would have been for Obama to attend.

9 b.d.  Jan 11, 2015 11:41:18am

NEWMAN!

10 Kryptik  Jan 11, 2015 11:41:52am

re: #8 b.d.

It’s like they don’t really care about Obama’s presence or not and just want to use it as a bludgeon!

But that can’t be, they’re clearly very serious people with very serious concerns.

11 Amory Blaine  Jan 11, 2015 11:42:30am

How many RWNJ are in Paris right now? Cruz? Golmert? Ryan?

12 unproven innocence  Jan 11, 2015 11:42:43am

Obama made a visit to the French Embassy to pay his respects.

13 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2015 11:43:09am

The only reason they are crying about him not being there is that they wanted him to go and be at risk. Seriously.

14 Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2015 11:45:29am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Re: #46.

Lady? Clear your vents. Vacuum followed by compressed air.

My Mac died under similar circumstances a couple of years ago. Clumps of dust came out of the vents when the techie ran a finger over it.

I’ve been assiduous about cleaning those vents ever since.

15 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 11:46:07am

Attkisson is a freaking RWNJ attention whore.

16 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 11, 2015 11:46:22am

I’m waiting for the pictures of all of the right wing luminaries who attended the rally. You know; the ones who are castigating the president for not attending.

17 urbanmeemaw  Jan 11, 2015 11:48:07am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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And Charlie Pierce will write that she’s yet another victim of Obama’s jack boots stomping on the civil liberties of reporters and like Snowden and Poitras she’s brave. Or something.

18 Belafon  Jan 11, 2015 11:48:19am

There was a tweet posted in the last thread that pointed out that the Secret Service would never let the president go to something like this.

19 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 11:48:36am

re: #11 Amory Blaine

How many RWNJ are in Paris right now? Cruz? Golmert? Ryan?

None of those three and almost certainly no one from the US Congress is in Paris right now. Members of Congress have their Sundays planned in advance and they wouldn’t change them for a march in a foreign country.

There’s also the fact that Paul Ryan is rooting for a different team right now than Gohmert and Cruz. We’ll see if Ryan’s team can come back.

20 b.d.  Jan 11, 2015 11:49:35am

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m waiting for the pictures of all of the right wing luminaries who attended the rally. You know; the ones who are castigating the president for not attending.

but only heads of state were invited! all million of them

I’m off to play Where’s Wingnut? in that above picture.

21 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 11:50:00am

RWNJ’s typically hate France. So this is nothing more than pedantic antagonism, making self important platitudes that the Usurper in Chief would aspire to if he wasn’t such a Usurper In Chief.

22 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 11:50:08am
23 b.d.  Jan 11, 2015 11:51:24am

re: #11 Amory Blaine

How many RWNJ are in Paris right now? Cruz? Golmert? Ryan?

In fairness, Cruz, Paul, McCain and other wingnuts would have attended if they knew there were going to be that many cameras there.

24 Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2015 11:51:34am

I’m heartened by this rally and all the others in support of free speech. I mourn the victims From Charlie Hebdoe.

I am furious that some people are conflating, yet again, a mass murder carried out by extremist nutbars into an existential threat to The West. Christ. Those tools can only strike at weakness unattached to the central ideas of our culture. We do not need to ‘go to war’ with them.

We should treat them with eye rolling contempt and make it clear that we regard them as murderers, not enemy combatants. They and their backers shouldn’t be given the cachet of a nation state.

Okay, rant over.

25 Belafon  Jan 11, 2015 11:51:38am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.

They don’t want any competition. They don’t really believe in the free market.

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:51:54am
27 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:52:58am

#JeSuisSandyHook was too soon…

28 Amory Blaine  Jan 11, 2015 11:53:31am

re: #23 b.d.

I think they’re crafting important legislation renaming the french fries for the House cafeteria.

29 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 11:54:31am

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

You can go ahead and down-ding me, but Kevin Williamson is a disgusting pig and it’s sickening that you post his hateful garbage here.

30 Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2015 11:54:46am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Looking at that picture of Williamson I think yet again, “Why is it that so many RWNJs have faces that just cry out to be punched? Always they have that sneering contempt showing their belief in their superiority and everyone else’s inferiority.”

There’s a reason Pride is a deadly sin.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:55:14am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Hey D_F, what’s is your freaking problem downdinging that comment?
You agree with Williamson that women who have abortions should be hanged????

32 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 11:55:29am

Obama being there would make things more difficult but the RWNJs knew that.

33 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2015 11:58:23am

There’s a comma missing here==>

34 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 11:59:30am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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He’s a bigoted creep who works for a bigoted rag. Misery loves company.

35 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:59:37am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

There’s a comma missing here==>

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maybe, maybe not….

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36 Dr Lizardo  Jan 11, 2015 11:59:54am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah………there’s certainly two ways you can read that.

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 12:01:54pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Apparently D_F believes:

People really make too much out of being killed these days.

littlegreenfootballs.com

38 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 12:02:00pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was disagreeing with this statement:

“The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.”

Comparing American conservatives to terrorists who shoot up magazine offices a supermarkets is both inflammatory and wrong. That merits a downding in my mind. I’m not going to go daggers drawn with Charles, because that never ends well, but neither I will simply allow such a statement to go unchallenged.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 12:03:43pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

I was disagreeing with this statement:

“The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.”

Comparing American conservatives to terrorists who shoot up magazine offices a supermarkets is both inflammatory and wrong. That merits a downding in my mind. I’m not going to go daggers drawn with Charles, because that never ends well, but neither I will simply allow such a statement to go unchallenged.

You should have said that first, before you got called out on the downding.
But you’re already on a roll today defending the indefensible, so carry on…

40 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 12:04:02pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

I was disagreeing with this statement:

“The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.”

Comparing American conservatives to terrorists who shoot up magazine offices a supermarkets is both inflammatory and wrong. That merits a downding in my mind. I’m not going to go daggers drawn with Charles, because that never ends well, but neither I will simply allow such a statement to go unchallenged.

Truth hurts huh. Williamson shows Charles is absolutely right when he wishes death on women who get abortions.

41 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 12:05:25pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

I note that you think “Islamists” is an automatic synonym for “terrorists.” The fact is that the ideology of today’s conservative movement is indistinguishable in many ways from the ideology of Islamism — deeply reactionary, illiberal, opposed to women’s rights, in love with violence as a solution to political problems, I could go on and on.

42 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 12:09:21pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

I note that you think “Islamists” is an automatic synonym for “terrorists.” The fact is that the ideology of today’s conservative movement is indistinguishable in many ways from the ideology of Islamism — deeply reactionary, illiberal, opposed to women’s rights, in love with violence as a solution to political problems, I could go on and on.

They didn’t earn the American Taliban moniker for their love of modernity that’s for damn sure.

43 makeitstop  Jan 11, 2015 12:10:35pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.

They’re just jealous that the Islamists actually carry out the violence that they only sit behind their computers and fantasize about.

44 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 12:11:51pm

Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives are both fundamentalists. There is very little difference between the biblical law teahadists want America to follow and Sharia law AQ want their people to follow.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian are deeply conservative.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives want their respective countries to be theological.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives oppose gays and abortion.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives hate liberalism.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe firearms are the answer to everything.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe in the death penalty.

45 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 12:12:18pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

I note that you think “Islamists” is an automatic synonym for “terrorists.” The fact is that the ideological views of today’s conservative movement are indistinguishable in many ways from the ideology of Islamism — deeply reactionary, illiberal, opposed to women’s rights, in love with violence as a solution to political problems, I could go on and on.

You could go on and on, but DF is right, today’s RW does not behead anybody or hold public executions. So they only compare on 12 of 16 or so components.

Except for George Tiller, the Oklahoma City bombing, and a completely irrelevant ‘lone wolf’ shooting every year or so, they’re not killing anybody. Or too many people.

46 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 12:13:29pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives are both fundamentalists. There is very little difference between the biblical law teahadists want America to follow and Sharia law AQ want their people to follow.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian are deeply conservative.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives want their respective countries to be theological.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives oppose gays and abortion.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives hate liberalism.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe firearms are the answer to everything.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe in the death penalty.

Both anti gay to the point where they deny gay people have humanity.

47 TedStriker  Jan 11, 2015 12:13:54pm

re: #43 makeitstop

They’re just jealous that the Islamists actually carry out the violence that they only sit behind their computers and fantasize about.

That’s also why they seem to be so gung ho to send our armed forces against them in the Middle East and elsewhere…when it’s a Republican in charge, that is.

48 makeitstop  Jan 11, 2015 12:15:39pm

re: #24 Romantic Heretic

I am furious that some people are conflating, yet again, a mass murder carried out by extremist nutbars into an existential threat to The West. Christ.

You want to talk about furious? Check this out.

The wife and I went out to meet friends for lunch, and the lead story on NYC news station 1010 WINS is about how the NYPD received a ‘new terror alert’ and is ‘taking precautions,’ delivered breathlessly as a story of utmost importance.

Only by the end of the story, they have an audio quote from an NYPD spokesman and a quote from Charles Schumer saying that there is no imminent danger, and that neither NYPD nor any other city agency is doing anything differently than they were doing before the Paris attacks.

This, to me, is irresponsible journalism. They sell the story as one thing while simultaneously debunking the premise within the same report.

And we worry about RWNJ media? The mainstream boys pull the same shit on the regular.

49 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 12:15:46pm

re: #47 TedStriker

That’s also why they seem to be so gung ho to send our armed forces against them in the Middle East and elsewhere…when it’s a Republican in charge, that is.

Some of them in their own words do see our presence in the ME as being a continuation of the Crusades so yeah I don’t think Charles was off at all.

50 TedStriker  Jan 11, 2015 12:15:49pm

re: #45 BigPapa

You could go on and on, but DF is right, today’s RW does not behead anybody or hold public executions. So they only compare on 12 of 16 or so components.

Except for George Tiller, the Oklahoma City bombing, and a at least one completely irrelevant ‘lone wolf’ shooting every year or so, they’re not killing anybody. Or too many people.

FTFY…

51 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 12:15:59pm

re: #45 BigPapa

All you have to do is read comments at any right wing blog to know that if they thought they had the power to do it, a whole lot of right wingers would have absolutely no objection to using violence to obtain their ends. They don’t do it here because of America’s legal system, not because they’re opposed to it.

52 TedStriker  Jan 11, 2015 12:18:05pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

All you have to do is read comments at any right wing blog to know that if they thought they had the power to do it, a whole lot of right wingers would have absolutely no objection to using violence to obtain their ends. They don’t do it here because of America’s legal system, not because they’re opposed to it.

I think BP was being snarky, especially with the second paragraph.

53 bratwurst  Jan 11, 2015 12:18:52pm

In competition for most obnoxious right wing reaction to the events of this week:

Tucker Carlson: I Have ‘A Lot’ Of Muslim Friends, But It’s Time To Ban Them In The U.S.

54 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:19:33pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Anthony Comstock is dead.

55 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 12:20:45pm

re: #53 bratwurst

In competition for most obnoxious right wing reaction to the events of this week:

Tucker Carlson: I Have ‘A Lot’ Of Muslim Friends, But It’s Time To Ban Them In The U.S.

Yeah he’s not hateful like Islamists are./ he’s Christian.

56 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:21:19pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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There is no pushback because conservatives tend to agree with him. I’ve heard with my own ears people tell me that Dr. Tiller’s murderer was justified —although they won’t condone murder.

*spit*

57 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 12:21:34pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

I note that you think “Islamists” is an automatic synonym for “terrorists.” The fact is that the ideological views of today’s conservative movement are indistinguishable in many ways from the ideology of Islamism — deeply reactionary, illiberal, opposed to women’s rights, in love with violence as a solution to political problems, I could go on and on.

Let’s not forget terrorists are the extreme militant fringe of a religion. It is the idealism spoken by their chosen radical religious leaders that drives them to go out and kill. Their religious leaders do not do it they just give reason to do it.

In America, you could in a way say that the extremist Christian fundies are the militant fringe of Christianity. A guy like Williamson is basing his thinking off what he has learned through that religious thinking and then spouts his crap about how it makes it right to kill.

Listen to Pat Robertson, Bryan Fischer and others. You don’t think they give motivation to their nutty fans to think it is right to kill gays and women that have abortions?

So, in a way…Williamson is in a small bit like an Osama Bin Laden. They spout crazy idealized shit and then crazies hear it and go out and act on it. Much like someone could listen to Williamson, and then go out and bomb an abortion clinic.

58 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:22:40pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey D_F, what’s is your freaking problem downdinging that comment?
You agree with Williamson that women who have abortions should be hanged????

because he agrees with Willlamson. Women don’t don’t count as people.

59 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2015 12:23:49pm
60 The Ghost of a Funky Discarded Egg  Jan 11, 2015 12:23:56pm

Politics should not be about uncritical tending of the warm feeling of belonging in your fucking belly.

Because that shit is the least reliable, most manipulable component of human nature. It is the part that demonstrates that our understanding of ourselves as rational should be tempered…as in “rational, for a defective meat calculator that can’t always tell external percepts from internal states.”

For that matter, nothing in your life should be about uncritical tending of the warm feeling of belonging in your fucking belly. Because at some point, someone’s going to leverage that feeling of belonging into politics.

At which point you’re probably going to start pissing in my proverbial cereal.

61 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:24:13pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

I was disagreeing with this statement:

“The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.”

Comparing American conservatives to terrorists who shoot up magazine offices a supermarkets is both inflammatory and wrong. That merits a downding in my mind. I’m not going to go daggers drawn with Charles, because that never ends well, but neither I will simply allow such a statement to go unchallenged.

Why don’t we take care of OUR OWN who profess hate before we point fingers.

62 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:25:29pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives are both fundamentalists. There is very little difference between the biblical law teahadists want America to follow and Sharia law AQ want their people to follow.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian are deeply conservative.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives want their respective countries to be theological.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives oppose gays and abortion.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives hate liberalism.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe firearms are the answer to everything.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives believe in the death penalty.

Both Al-Qaeda/Islamist Terrorists and Christian conservatives do not consider women to be people.

63 blueraven  Jan 11, 2015 12:25:38pm

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

because he agrees with Willlamson. Women don’t don’t count as people.

I think that is a bit unfair.

64 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:25:55pm

re: #45 BigPapa

You could go on and on, but DF is right, today’s RW does not behead anybody or hold public executions. So they only compare on 12 of 16 or so components.

Except for George Tiller, the Oklahoma City bombing, and a completely irrelevant ‘lone wolf’ shooting every year or so, they’re not killing anybody. Or too many people.

You think they wouldn’t if they thought they could get away with it?

65 unproven innocence  Jan 11, 2015 12:26:12pm

re: #54 FemNaziBitch

Anthony Comstock is dead.

Yup. Anthony Comstock (March 7, 1844 – September 21, 1915)
But as Shakespere wrote, “The evil that men do lives after them.”

66 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:27:47pm

re: #63 blueraven

I think that is a bit unfair.

Calling it like I see it.

67 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 12:28:03pm
68 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 12:29:19pm

Wow. I may have to do a post about what’s going on at Breitbart “News” today. The anti-Muslim hatred is off the scale.

69 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2015 12:29:35pm
70 blueraven  Jan 11, 2015 12:30:31pm

re: #66 FemNaziBitch

Calling it like I see it.

Acknowledged. Not questioning your sincerity.

71 CleverToad  Jan 11, 2015 12:36:04pm

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

Women don’t count as people functional adults with full autonomy and sole authority over their bodies and their lives.

*double spit*

(ooh, the strike-out worked! learning to play with the lovely toys here)

72 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:39:01pm

re: #70 blueraven

Acknowledged. Not questioning your sincerity.

I’d like to point out how easily women are ignored, overlooked and taken for granted.

Even his his post regarding the similarities of Fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, Dr. Matt does not include women. (excepting the abortion issue -women are so much more than our lady parts).

My point is that our (women) basic humanity is just glossed over and we (people who consider women to be people) don’t even notice.

Those, who take woman as people as a given, neglect to speak out, those who do not think we are people do.

Phyllis Shafley is a prime example.

*spit*

Dr. Matt, I do not wish to single you out specifically. Please do not take offense, yours was just the most recent example of my frustrations.

AS we continue to work on our deeply conditioned xenophobia, we need to work to recognize the misogyny that is also deeply conditioned and is so much closer to home, often IN OUT OWN HOMES.

73 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 12:39:52pm
74 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:41:48pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

linky fixed.

75 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 12:46:29pm

bbl

76 makeitstop  Jan 11, 2015 12:49:16pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

Conservatives have spent the last several decades denigrating the French, but now they demand that the POTUS attend a march in France.

Indeed. The ‘cheese-eating surrender monkeys’ meme is hereby put into storage until such time as it becomes politically expedient to use it again.
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77 blueraven  Jan 11, 2015 12:53:16pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

I’d like to point out how easily women are ignored, overlooked and taken for granted.

Even his his post regarding the similarities of Fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, Dr. Matt does not include women. (excepting the abortion issue -women are so much more than our lady parts).

My point is that our (women) basic humanity is just glossed over and we (people who consider women to be people) don’t even notice.

Those, who take woman as people as a given, neglect to speak out, those who do not think we are people do.

Phyllis Shafley is a prime example.

*spit*

Dr. Matt, I do not wish to single you out specifically. Please do not take offense, yours was just the most recent example of my frustrations.

AS we continue to work on our deeply conditioned xenophobia, we need to work to recognize the misogyny that is also deeply conditioned and is so much closer to home, often IN OUT OWN HOMES.

I am very appreciative that we have people like you who focus on women’s issues and call out those who try to keep us in the dark ages.
But sometimes a post is just a post. They are not all inclusive all the time, they are often just random thoughts in the moment.

78 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 12:56:30pm

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

because he agrees with Willlamson. Women don’t don’t count as people.

As it happens, I don’t agree with Williamson. I try to avoid engaging on the issue of abortion so I didn’t address what he said. but I sure as heck don’t favor the death penalty for abortion.

79 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 12:57:47pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Wow. I may have to do a post about what’s going on at Breitbart “News” today. The anti-Muslim hatred is off the scale.

Please do. That shit’s ugly, evil and stupid.

80 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 11, 2015 1:00:52pm

re: #18 Belafon

There was a tweet posted in the last thread that pointed out that the Secret Service would never let the president go to something like this.

Cripes, just looking at the picture above i could imagine the Secret Service having a collective coronary at the thought of trying to secure it.

And of course, if he HAD gone, the RW would be blathering on about how much it cost, with everyone sharing some bullshit number pulled out of the ass of some guy who works as a security guard at a Walmart, so “he’s a professional who knows his stuff”.

81 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2015 1:06:19pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Yeah. Right wingers never go on shooting sprees. Ever. WTF.

82 Belafon  Jan 11, 2015 1:09:57pm

re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus

They’re not true wingers, obviously.

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83 blueraven  Jan 11, 2015 1:10:35pm

Christie may be out of hugs for this season.

84 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2015 1:11:13pm

re: #61 FemNaziBitch

Now now. That’s only for Muslims to do. Us westerners can’t be held responsible for those “lone wolves” or “mentally disturbed” in our midst.

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85 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 1:11:22pm

re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah. Right wingers never go on shooting sprees. Ever. WTF.

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

You see Islamist leaders glorifying terrorist shootings, but I’m pretty sure Ted Cruz has never done so.

86 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 1:12:30pm

Turn out the lights, Dallas, the party’s over

DON MEREDITH - Turn out the lights… the party’s over - YouTube4.flv

87 A Cranky One  Jan 11, 2015 1:14:25pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Wow. I may have to do a post about what’s going on at Breitbart “News” today. The anti-Muslim hatred is off the scale.

Better you than me. One thing I appreciate about this site is that I learn about what the nutcases are saying without having to dive into the cesspool.

When my ex-father-in-law retired, he lost his identity (a common occurrence when your sense of self is so tied to your job). His identity morphed into “at least I’m not one of those people .” Seems to be what is happening with the modern conservative movement; they are all about hating “others”, with no consistent philosophy other than being contrary to those perceived as others.

88 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:14:34pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

You see Islamist leaders glorifying terrorist shootings, but I’m pretty sure Ted Cruz has never done so.

We were talking about the right wing not the Republican Party though. Tell me DF. How is Williamson saying that women who get abortions should be murdered any different from an Islamist saying “Death to the infidels.” There’s no difference in that shit. The right isn’t thankfully able to get away with the crap that Islamists do is because we fortunately have a stable government.

89 blueraven  Jan 11, 2015 1:14:37pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

You see Islamist leaders glorifying terrorist shootings, but I’m pretty sure Ted Cruz has never done so.

Haven’t heard him do so either, but Bill Donohue came damn close to it for the Paris attack.

I tend to separate the religious far right from the garden variety conservatives.

90 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2015 1:15:49pm

SMH

91 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 11, 2015 1:15:57pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

You see Islamist leaders glorifying terrorist shootings, but I’m pretty sure Ted Cruz has never done so.

Really? Because I haven’t seen any Muslim leaders glorifying this shooting.

I’d say that the Wingnut 27% crowd are similar in aim to the Islamists, but at the moment they’re not as violent, largely because they’re more powerful in our society than the Islamists are in theirs. But it’s worth noting many of them believe an armed insurrection will be needed soon, and they’re more heavily armed than the Islamists.

92 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:16:08pm

And you did hear American Repulblican party officials talking about “second amendment solutions” so yeah they’re perfectly willing to glorify violence when they feel like it.

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 1:17:34pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

You see Islamist leaders glorifying terrorist shootings, but I’m pretty sure Ted Cruz has never done so.

You need to spend more time taking closer attention to Ted Cruz and his father.

94 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 1:18:27pm

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

SMH

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95 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:19:40pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

You need to spend more time taking closer attention to Ted Cruz and his father.

Yep Raffy Cruz thinks his son is coming to “save” the US from our “evil ways.” Really the way the elder Cruz views his son is really not at all different from how many Islamists see their cause.

96 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 1:20:12pm

re: #89 blueraven

Haven’t heard him do so either, but Bill Donohue came damn close to it for the Paris attack.

I tend to separate the religious far right from the garden variety conservatives.

Which is what I do as well. I’m all for lambasting violent-minded assholes, but don’t lump everyone right of the centerline in with ‘em.

97 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 11, 2015 1:20:44pm

It’s great to see people come out to express something good like support for speech.

Considering the fact that we can’t go more than two days in this country without some guy killing between 3-7 of his friends and relatives, leading the police on a chase, and then blowing all possible answers to questions of motive out the top of his skull with whatever guns he hasn’t emptied into his (wife/ex-wife/girlfriend/boyfriend of ex/kids/co-workers/police/bystanders/et cetera), I don’t think we’re in a position to criticize any country for the way it handles its popular affairs.

I would like to see a little more coverage of all the cartoonists and journalists in the Middle East who have been locked up, ritually flogged, beaten, shot, jailed, and so on, for doing what Charlie Hebdo does.

I’ve been following Molly Crabapple on Twitter. She is unfortunately a supporter of Barret Brown, but she also posts quite a bit about cartoonists in the ME who can’t do what the French do so freely.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 1:20:49pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Yep Raffy Cruz thinks his son is coming to “save” the US from our “evil ways.” Really the way the elder Cruz views his son is really not at all different from how many Islamists see their cause.

Yep, Raffy talking about End Times and how Ted will be wearing the crown to fix the wealth distribution…

99 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:20:50pm

Really fuck Ted Cruz and his asshole father who was all the more happy to cheerlead for Fidel Castro until he realized there was a better market in being the “disillusioned dissident”. Rafael Cruz would be perfectly happy to shill for Castro if the money was there and he knew American audiences would buy it.

100 RadicalModerate  Jan 11, 2015 1:21:26pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

I was disagreeing with this statement:

“The US right wing is an exact mirror image of the Islamists they profess to hate.”

Comparing American conservatives to terrorists who shoot up magazine offices a supermarkets is both inflammatory and wrong. That merits a downding in my mind. I’m not going to go daggers drawn with Charles, because that never ends well, but neither I will simply allow such a statement to go unchallenged.

Yeah, after all, the US rightwingers don’t do things like bomb family planning clinics, murder doctors who perform abortions, shoot congresswomen and police officers, suppress the votes of minorities via misinformation and intimidation, or openly advocate the violent overthrow of the government.

Oh wait.

101 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:21:46pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, Raffy talking about End Times and how Ted will be wearing the crown to fix the wealth distribution…

It’s actually pretty disturbing to tell you the truth. But what does one expect from a pathetic little man like Rafael Cruz and his weasel of a son?

102 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:22:38pm

I mean right wing extremism got to the point where the Bush administration was worried about it. But I get it. No true conservative Scotsmen.

103 stpaulbear  Jan 11, 2015 1:23:27pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

They usually get condemned with a ‘We regret that it happened, BUT….”

Somehow, there’s a reason they had it coming. As CJ said in comment 51, the only reason they condemn it is because it would look bad not to.

104 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:25:15pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

They usually get condemned with a ‘We regret that it happened, BUT….”

Somehow, there’s a reason they had it coming. As CJ said in comment 51, the only reason they condemn it is because it would look bad not to.

It’s like Dr. Tiller’s murder. You had Bill O’Reilly likening physicians like him to Nazi doctors and then acting “shocked” when someone inevitably committed an act of terrorism against him and other doctors like him. The biggest difference between the average Islamist and your average wingnut is your average wingnut prefers to hide behind a keyboard or National Review byline in the case of Williamson rather than actually having the balls to do the crazy crap he professes to believe.

105 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:27:49pm

We were shocked that repeatedly calling liberals traitors and likening them to Hitler while we told them that the only thing that could protect them from tyranny was their guns would result in violence.//

106 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 1:28:24pm

Didn’t Scott Roeder claim it was Pat Roberston that motivated him to shoot Dr. Tiller?

Is not Robertson a conservative politician and religious leader? Do not many Republicans look to Roberston for endorsement?

107 goddamnedfrank  Jan 11, 2015 1:30:53pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And when they do they get condemned by Republicans, not glorified.

Or, y’know, Republicans call them a hoax and conspiracy to take yer guns:

A political candidate in Colorado is under intense criticism and has even received death threats after suggesting the Newtown school shooting that killed 26 people was a hoax.

On his Facebook, Republican Tom Ready posted an article claiming that the December 2012 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School could have been faked to drum up support for tougher gun control laws.

He was forced to defend his choice to share the article in a debate this week against Pueblo County Commissioner Sal Pace, whom he is hoping to unseat.

‘I don’t think [the shootings have] been proven,’ Ready said, according to the Pueblo Chieftain. ‘And what’s wrong with open discussion?’

Also, Inside the right-wing love affair with conspiracy theories.

Face it bro, the GOP and modern American conservatism is absolutely riddled with crazies in a way that the left and the Democratic party just don’t even come close to approaching.

108 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 1:31:08pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Didn’t Scott Roeder claim it was Pat Roberston that motivated him to shoot Dr. Tiller?

Is not Robertson a conservative politician and religious leader? Do not many Republicans look to Roberston for endorsement?

My convicted felon former governor pandered to that asshole for years going back to the sexist thesis he wrote about women at his “law school” that had words about women that any Islamist would be saying “Amen” to.

109 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 1:33:28pm
Coffee originated in Yemen. So boycott away, haters, but no morning Joe for you.

Though they always have Scarborough.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 1:42:55pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

As it happens, I don’t agree with Williamson. I try to avoid engaging on the issue of abortion so I didn’t address what he said. but I sure as heck don’t favor the death penalty for abortion.

But you had no hesitation in downdinging CJ’s comment that pointed out that.

111 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 1:45:41pm
I love watching a game I don’t have a dog in. Much easier on the nerves.
112 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 1:48:48pm

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

SMH

Don Lemon with “BBC pronunciation”?

113 dog philosopher  Jan 11, 2015 2:25:10pm

re: #89 blueraven

Haven’t heard him do so either, but Bill Donohue came damn close to it for the Paris attack.

I tend to separate the religious far right from the garden variety conservatives.

they’re all contaminated with the same pollen

114 Jenner7  Jan 11, 2015 3:05:09pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Their ideology is the same. Many right wingers have suggested “assimilate or die”. That’s what ISIS, Al-Queda, etc say.

115 Jay C  Jan 11, 2015 3:51:53pm

While I’ll concur with the opinion that President Obama shouldn’t have/couldn’t have attended the big Paris rally on short notice, (and that RW criticism of him for it is idiotic) it does seem somewhat “off” that the highest-ranking US official there “officially” was the US Ambassador. I had originally read reports that NO Americans were present in a formal capacity - which I thought shocking: but I think somebody from the Executive Branch (VP Biden?) should have been there - AG Holder had apparently popped over for a security conference, but took no part in the march.


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