John Boehner’s Bartender Thought Boehner Was the Devil and Planned to Poison Him

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At first I thought this was from one of those fake news sites, but no — it appears to be legitimate; John Boehner’s long-time bartender at a West Chester country club planned to poison him.

Michael Robert HoytMichael Robert Hoyt, 44, was indicted Jan. 7 on charges of threatening to murder the congressman in a plot authorities said included poisoning his drink at a country club.

Hoyt served drinks to Boehner for more than five years at the Wetherington Country Club in West Chester and was known as “Bartender Mike” to employees there.

Hoyt called police on Oct. 29, a week after being fired from the club, and blamed Boehner for his woes, police said. When officers visited Hoyt at his home on Matson Ave. in Deer Park, they said the plot thickened.

“Hoyt told the officer he was Jesus Christ and he was going to kill Boehner because Boehner was mean to him at the country club and because Boehner is responsible for Ebola,” United States Capitol Police (USCP) Special Agent Christopher M. Desrosiers said. “Hoyt advised he had a loaded Beretta .380 automatic and he was going to shoot Boehner and take off.”

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1 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:38:13pm

Guy needs a lot of help.

2 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 3:41:09pm

Glad he didn’t serve him red rum.

3 Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2015 3:41:23pm

Sounds like a typical card-carrying psychopath of the GOP base.

And here is a horse passing gas to lighten the mood:

Horse Passing Gas

4 Eventual Carrion  Jan 13, 2015 3:44:18pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Guy needs a lot of help.

Yeah, something not right with that boy.

5 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 3:45:25pm

I hate to say this because the guy is clearly not possessing of all his mental faculties, but what do you want to bet that some right-wing blogger or other will try to make him into an assassin hired by Obama?

6 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:47:00pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

I hate to say this because the guy is clearly not possessing of all his mental faculties, but what do you want to bet that some right-wing blogger or other will try to make him into an assassin hired by Obama?

I’d place those odds are pretty good. The guy is obviously mentally disturbed.

7 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 3:47:13pm

Trying to visualize the reaction if he’d had a slightly darker complexion and was named Mustafa Rafiq Hussein instead of Michael Robert Hoyt… They’d prolly be saying POTUS is sending ISIS assassins after GOP congress critters or some such ridiculous crap.

8 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 3:47:31pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

I hate to say this because the guy is clearly not possessing of all his mental faculties, but what do you want to bet that some right-wing blogger or other will try to make him into an assassin hired by Obama?

GMTA

9 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:47:53pm

re: #4 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, something not right with that boy.

Yeah, hopefully they evaluate him rather than just max sentence him. Get the guy’s illness under control at least.

10 Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2015 3:48:42pm

You cannot poison the Orange One with drink. It only makes Him stronger.

11 Eventual Carrion  Jan 13, 2015 3:49:07pm

re: #7 CuriousLurker

Trying to visualize the reaction if he’d had a slightly darker complexion and was named Mustafa Rafiq Hussein instead of Michael Robert Hoyt… They’d prolly be saying POTUS is sending ISIS assassins after GOP congress critters or some such ridiculous crap.

He sent a middle eastern guy, the dude said he was Jesus Christ.

12 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 3:49:12pm

Holy crap.

“Hoyt said he started to hear the devil’s voice from the speakers in his car and his radio at home after he was fired. The voices were telling him that Boehner was evil, Desrosiers said.

“He told investigators he dialed 911 because he believed evil people were going to “come chop him up,” and he was trying to expose Boehner as the devil, according to court documents obtained by the I-Team.

“Desrosiers said Hoyt also typed an 11-page blog detailing his thoughts about Boehner being the devil and emailed it to his father, ex-girlfriend and neighbor.”

13 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:49:31pm

re: #7 CuriousLurker

Trying to visualize the reaction if he’d had a slightly darker complexion and was named Mustafa Rafiq Hussein instead of Michael Robert Hoyt… They’d prolly be saying POTUS is sending ISIS assassins after GOP congress critters or some such ridiculous crap.

They still may do it regardless. Well not the whole ISIS angle but I bet you DimJim and Chuckels are hard at work to find Hoyt’s connections to Obama

14 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 3:49:59pm

Imagine the odds. A guy suffering mentally and he has a gun.

15 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:50:16pm

I’m no psychiatrist and this is not even an attempt at a diagnosis but it sounds like paranoid schizophrenia.

16 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 3:51:51pm

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap.

“Hoyt said he started to hear the devil’s voice from the speakers in his car and his radio at home after he was fired. The voices were telling him that Boehner was evil, Desrosiers said.

“He told investigators he dialed 911 because he believed evil people were going to “come chop him up,” and he was trying to expose Boehner as the devil, according to court documents obtained by the I-Team.

“Desrosiers said Hoyt also typed an 11-page blog detailing his thoughts about Boehner being the devil and emailed it to his father, ex-girlfriend and neighbor.”

ZOMG! THERE’S YOUR PROOF! OBAMA CONTROLS TEH AIRWAVEZ!!! HE BRAINWASHED THIS POOR MAN INTO TRYING TO KILL TEH SPEAKER OF TEH HOUSE!!!

17 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 3:51:52pm

Well, whatever else I may wish for the Speaker, I don’t wish him harm. Glad this apparent nutcase was stopped before following through.

But boy, does this make the case for more funding for mental health, and universal background checks for firearm purchases!

18 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 3:52:04pm

{{sigh}}

Lawyers for Boston Marathon suspect seek to suspend jury selection after Paris attacks - @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org

19 Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2015 3:52:32pm

I’m going out on a limb here and say bartending at a country club probably doesn’t pay for proper mental health services.

20 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 3:53:18pm

re: #11 Eventual Carrion

He sent a middle eastern guy, the dude said he was Jesus Christ.

Oh snap, that’s right! i keep forgetting he wasn’t from Kansas.

Heh, when I drove a cab that happened all the time—passengers would often ask me if it wasn’t kind of strange to be following a Middle Eastern religion and I’d always look at them really deadpan and go, “Um, you do realize that Jesus wasn’t born in Kansas, right?” It never failed to result in them turning red and looking rather sheepish.

21 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:53:35pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, whatever else I may wish for the Speaker, I don’t wish him harm. Glad this apparent nutcase was stopped before following through.

But boy, does this make the case for more funding for mental health, and universal background checks for firearm purchases!

Definitely goes without saying on both counts. Glad it was stopped before it could happen. One would hope that this would perhaps make Boehner more aware about the importance of mental health screening and guns.

22 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 3:54:03pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

They still may do it regardless. Well not the whole ISIS angle but I bet you DimJim and Chuckels are hard at work to find Hoyt’s connections to Obama

Yeah, it’s always his fault somehow. *smh*

23 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 3:54:21pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Oh snap, that’s right! i keep forgetting he wasn’t from Kansas.

Heh, when I drove a cab that happened all the time—passengers would often ask me if it wasn’t kind of strange to be following a Middle Eastern religion and I’d always look at them really deadpan and go, “Um, you do realize that Jesus wasn’t born in Kansas, right?” It never failed to result in them turning red and looking rather sheepish.

That’s pretty awesome.

24 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:55:41pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Oh snap, that’s right! i keep forgetting he wasn’t from Kansas.

Heh, when I drove a cab that happened all the time—passengers would often ask me if it wasn’t kind of strange to be following a Middle Eastern religion and I’d always look at them really deadpan and go, “Um, you do realize that Jesus wasn’t born in Kansas, right?” It never failed to result in them turning red and looking rather sheepish.

That reminds me of the trouble the idiots that tried banning Shariah under the guise of banning all foreign laws. They found out that the Bible wasn’t written in the heartland by a white guy named Bill. I didn’t know you were a cabbie at one point though. My dad was too.

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 3:55:42pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Imagine the odds. A guy suffering mentally and he has a gun.

It’s too soon to talk about that…

26 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 3:55:54pm

More “christian” hate…

Family: Lakewood church refuses funeral service because woman was gay

denverpost.com

“A Lakewood minister refused to hold a memorial service on Saturday for a mother of two at his church because the woman was gay, family and friends said Tuesday.

“Her casket was open, flowers laid out and hundreds of people sitting in the pews,” supporters said in a Facebook post. “He collected money for the funeral and has yet to return it.”

“Vanessa Collier was 33 when she died on Dec. 29, leaving behind her wife and children.” More

So very, very sad.

27 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 3:56:37pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

That reminds me of the trouble the idiots that tried banning Shariah under the guise of banning all foreign laws. They found out that the Bible wasn’t written in the heartland by a white guy named Bill. I didn’t know you were a cabbie at one point though. My dad was too.

Yeah, 17+ years’ worth. I have a LOT of stories. ;-)

28 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 3:56:42pm

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

29 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:57:31pm

re: #26 Justanotherhuman

More “christian” hate…

Family: Lakewood church refuses funeral service because woman was gay

denverpost.com

“A Lakewood minister refused to hold a memorial service on Saturday for a mother of two at his church because the woman was gay, family and friends said Tuesday.

“Her casket was open, flowers laid out and hundreds of people sitting in the pews,” supporters said in a Facebook post. “He collected money for the funeral and has yet to return it.”

“Vanessa Collier was 33 when she died on Dec. 29, leaving behind her wife and children.” More

So very, very sad.

The bigoted dick should at least have the decency to give the money back. What the fuck is wrong with these people. Okay, you’re entitled to think homosexuality is a sin, I think that’s fucked up beyond reason but it is your right but it’s really fucking cruel to refuse to officiate a funeral that you agreed to do so simply because the deceased was gay. I hope when this fucker dies that no one attends his funeral.

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 3:57:50pm

re: #28 Kid A

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

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That twit-twat looks like he has a terrorist neckbeard in his avatar…

31 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 3:57:52pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s too soon to talk about that…

Again.

32 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:15pm

re: #27 CuriousLurker

Yeah, 17+ years’ worth. I have a LOT of stories. ;-)

I bet. My Dad only did it a few years but he’s got some stories as well. Quite a few involving Washington Redskins players.

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:15pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

Again.

Still.

34 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:15pm

re: #28 Kid A

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

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Boehner has a leftfist bartender and a rightfist bartender. Two-fisted drinker.

35 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:17pm

re: #28 Kid A

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

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And how do they know? Oh, that’s right, because they said so.

36 Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:35pm

re: #26 Justanotherhuman

He took the money though, because Jesus said so. Its in the Book of Bill.
/

37 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 3:58:58pm

re: #28 Kid A

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

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Idiots say what?

38 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 3:59:38pm

re: #28 Kid A

He was a LEFTIST!!!!

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Yeah I’m “shocked” that they would go at this angle but don’t blame them for Anders Brevik, // No sir. He was just a lone wolf, I tells ya.

39 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 3:59:39pm

re: #35 thedopefishlives

40 Shiplord Kirel  Jan 13, 2015 4:01:06pm

The usual suspects will have Bill the bartender linked to Islam, Mexico, and Satan before midnight.

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:01:48pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m “shocked” that they would go at this angle but don’t blame them for Anders Brevik, // No sir. He was just a lone wolf, I tells ya.

Well, after all, the bartender was white…

42 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 4:03:23pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel

The usual suspects will have Bill the bartender linked to Islam, Mexico, and Satan before midnight.

Just wait until Chuckles C. Johnson - GoatNews gets to the bottom of this.

43 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:03:41pm

Jerry Jones must have promised him a fortune…

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to set up political action committee, a 1st step toward possible presidential run - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

44 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 4:03:49pm
45 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 4:05:01pm

re: #26 Justanotherhuman

More “christian” hate…

Family: Lakewood church refuses funeral service because woman was gay

denverpost.com

“A Lakewood minister refused to hold a memorial service on Saturday for a mother of two at his church because the woman was gay, family and friends said Tuesday.

“Her casket was open, flowers laid out and hundreds of people sitting in the pews,” supporters said in a Facebook post. “He collected money for the funeral and has yet to return it.”

“Vanessa Collier was 33 when she died on Dec. 29, leaving behind her wife and children.” More

So very, very sad.

“Bury the straight dead.” It’s one of the Corporal Works of Mercy.

46 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 4:05:07pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Jerry Jones must have promised him a fortune…

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to set up political action committee, a 1st step toward possible presidential run - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

He’s going to flop as a candidate.

47 Teukka  Jan 13, 2015 4:05:31pm

In other news, Faux Noise’s self-proclaimed terrorism expert Steve Emerson made it to the news here in Sweden about his claims about moslem ‘no-go zones’ in France, the UK and Sweden…

svt.se (English Translation)

48 CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2015 4:06:41pm

re: #39 Kid A

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I feel bad for the guy—he’s sick , he can’t help it—and now he’s going to be used to score political points. How long before the assholes start digging into his personal life and tormenting his family?

It’s disgusting. I’m gonna go do something else—later, lizards.

49 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:08:35pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

He’s going to flop as a candidate.

He’ll appeal to those who should be taking anger management classes, no doubt.

And maybe a few Cowboys fans. Or are those the same people? : )

50 TedStriker  Jan 13, 2015 4:08:37pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Oh snap, that’s right! i keep forgetting he wasn’t from Kansas.

Heh, when I drove a cab that happened all the time—passengers would often ask me if it wasn’t kind of strange to be following a Middle Eastern religion and I’d always look at them really deadpan and go, “Um, you do realize that Jesus wasn’t born in Kansas, right?” It never failed to result in them turning red and looking rather sheepish.

Well, maybe not the so-called real Jesus, but Blond-and-Blue-Eyed Surfer Jesus? The odds are very good…

///

51 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 4:09:51pm

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

He’ll appeal to those who should be taking anger management classes, no doubt.

And maybe a few Cowboys fans. Or are those the same people? : )

Heh maybe. But really his star has really lost its luster since Bridgegate. I think he’ll be like another Rudy Giuliani and honestly maybe even worse.

52 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 4:12:07pm

Really though, can’t reiterate how glad I am that they got to this guy before he could do what eh wanted to do but he really does need help. Sane people don’t think the Speaker of the House (or really anyone) is the devil and plot to kill them. Get the guy on some medication and hopefully he can get his life together after he serves sometime in either a jail or asylum.

53 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:14:23pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Really though, can’t reiterate how glad I am that they got to this guy before he could do what eh wanted to do but he really does need help. Sane people don’t think the Speaker of the House (or really anyone) is the devil and plot to kill them. Get the guy on some medication and hopefully he can get his life together after he serves sometime in either a jail or asylum.

I doubt jail would do him any good in his condition. He sounds as though he desperately needs treatment.

54 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:17:07pm

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, spokesman: ‘Speaker Boehner is aware of this situation, and sincerely thanks the FBI, the Capitol Police, and local authorities in Ohio for their efforts’ - statement
end of alert

55 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 4:17:34pm

Regarding Christie running for president in ‘16. Wasn’t there some interesting comments made after the last election about what the Romney campaign thought of Christie as a VP candidate for Mitts?

Going to be good times on the trail next year between the two camps. Christie doesn’t seem to take any form of criticism or rejection well.

56 dog philosopher  Jan 13, 2015 4:19:52pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Regarding Christie running for president in ‘16. Wasn’t there some interesting comments made after the last election about what the Romney campaign thought of Christie as a VP candidate for Mitts?

Good be good times on the trail next year between the two camps. Christie doesn’t seem to take any form of criticism or rejection well.

i would love to see christie’s sharp tongue in action against his fellow gop hopefuls on the debate stage

57 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:20:16pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Regarding Christie running for president in ‘16. Wasn’t there some interesting comments made after the last election about what the Romney campaign thought of Christie as a VP candidate for Mitts?

Good be good times on the trail next year between the two camps. Christie doesn’t seem to take any form of criticism or rejection well.

They’re all a bunch of losers. Even Jeb hasn’t run a campaign in a dozen years, but he’ll probably be the anointed one if he wants it.

58 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 13, 2015 4:20:24pm

Speaking as a fat guy; no fat guy will ever be elected president—barring some total cultural change.

59 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 4:20:40pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Regarding Christie running for president in ‘16. Wasn’t there some interesting comments made after the last election about what the Romney campaign thought of Christie as a VP candidate for Mitts?

Good be good times on the trail next year between the two camps. Christie doesn’t seem to take any form of criticism or rejection well.

That’ll work fine with the wingnuts when he goes off on the Librul Media, but significantly less fine when he goes off on somebody from Fox, or some nutbag at an event - you know, like the “I’m afraid of that Obama. He’s a Arab!” lady at the McCain event in 2008.

60 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:21:18pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Jerry Jones must have promised him a fortune…

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to set up political action committee, a 1st step toward possible presidential run - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

Well, we know how successful Jones has been with Cowboys…

61 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 4:21:31pm

re: #58 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking as a fat guy; no fat guy will ever be elected president�󝒺rring some total cultural change.

A fat guy has a better chance than a fat lady.

62 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:21:40pm

re: #58 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking as a fat guy; no fat guy will ever be elected president�󝒺rring some total cultural change.

We’ll always have the memory of William Howard Taft.

63 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 4:22:06pm

re: #62 Justanotherhuman

We’ll always have the memory of William Howard Taft.

And the impression in the couch where he sat.

64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 13, 2015 4:22:28pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Well, you’re right there….

65 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 4:23:14pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

From a derper at Gateway Douche:

Pity. Why didnt he just do it and not brag about wanting to do it?

66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 13, 2015 4:23:19pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

And the impression in the couch where he sat.

Did they keep the bathtub he got stuck in?

67 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 4:25:08pm

re: #65 Kid A

From a derper at Gateway Douche:

Pity. Why didnt he just do it and not brag about wanting to do it?

As evidenced by his total failure to take our guns or enforce communist healthcare, clearly, Obama is not the world’s best evil overlord.

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:26:46pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Regarding Christie running for president in ‘16. Wasn’t there some interesting comments made after the last election about what the Romney campaign thought of Christie as a VP candidate for Mitts?

Going to be good times on the trail next year between the two camps. Christie doesn’t seem to take any form of criticism or rejection well.

Yep, Mitt and Friends made lots of fattie jokes about Christie.

69 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 4:28:52pm

Why hasn’t someone started a vegan/kosher/halal/local/sustainable fast food chain already?

70 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 4:29:01pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth
nymag.com

71 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:29:12pm

re: #58 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking as a fat guy; no fat guy will ever be elected president�󝒺rring some total cultural change.

Taft used up all that.

72 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 4:30:05pm

re: #66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Did they keep the bathtub he got stuck in?

He had a 7 ft tub in the WH which was removed during a renovation. Also, others were supposedly installed in a couple of ships on which he sailed.

blog.constitutioncenter.org

73 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 4:30:38pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

BREAKING: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD THREATEN CHIPOTLE TO TAKE PORK OFF OF MENU!

74 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 4:31:53pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, Mitt and Friends made lots of fattie jokes about Christie.

That’s what I was thinking. I just can not see Christie letting any of that go. It is his nature to strike back, so I imagine there will be some heat from Christie coming Mitt’s way. And as we’ve all seen, Christie can be quite thorough when he is attacking someone.

I’m already laying in 50# sacks of white popcorn. There might not be enough this time next year. /

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:32:53pm

re: #74 ObserverArt

That’s what I was thinking. I just can not see Christie letting any of that go. It is his nature to strike back, so I imagine there will be some heat from Christie coming Mitt’s way. And as we’ve all seen, Christie can be quite thorough when he is attacking someone.

I’m already laying in 50# sacks of white popcorn. There might not be enough this time next year. /

See re: #70 Kid A got the link

76 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 4:33:45pm

Regarding Christie, I suspect there will be little said publicly about his weight, but I think it will keep a lot of people from voting for him.

And if anyone DOES mention his weight, it will be in the health context - always a handy dodge to criticize the overweight!

77 dog philosopher  Jan 13, 2015 4:34:09pm

ibm debuts new digital refrigerator that keeps food cold using rf frequency macrowave fields

78 Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2015 4:35:01pm
Is this skybox taken?
79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:35:42pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

Regarding Christie, I suspect there will be little said publicly about his weight, but I think it will keep a lot of people from voting for him.

And if anyone DOES mention his weight, it will be in the health context - always a handy dodge to criticize the overweight!

Totally health context.
I applaud him for taking action with the stomach surgery, but he’s a heart attack/diabetes/stroke waiting to happen.

80 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 4:38:59pm

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

81 Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2015 4:39:04pm

re: #77 dog philosopher

Cool! I wonder if they use it for their servers.

82 dog philosopher  Jan 13, 2015 4:41:12pm

re: #81 Amory Blaine

Cool! I wonder if they use it for their servers.

it has robotic food service built in

83 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 4:45:20pm

Georgia SC denies stay of tonight’s execution of a Vietnam veteran with PTSD.
11alive.com

84 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 4:48:40pm

re: #77 dog philosopher

Now we know where Batman keeps his beers.

85 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 4:50:53pm

So.
How YOU doin?

86 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 4:51:26pm

re: #83 Kid A

Georgia SC denies stay of tonight’s execution of a Vietnam veteran with PTSD.
11alive.com

Supportn’ our troops the secessionist way.

87 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 4:52:42pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

And if anyone DOES mention his weight, it will be in the health context - always a handy dodge to criticize the overweight!

I just don’t want to hear a GOP that makes Hillary’s age an issue grouse about questions regarding Christie’s health.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:52:45pm

ANTS!!!!

(Just trying to get everyone’s attention)

Back in warmer times, Charles and several other lizards had a terrible time with those tiny sugar ants invading our kitchens and bathrooms as they sought out water. And there were so many suggested remedies offered, mostly involving borax and ant baits (very bad for feline overlords).
Well, it’s mid-January and, as some of you know, my hot water pipe in the bathroom froze up over the weekend; so imagine my surprise to see dozens of those pesky little buggers swarming in my bathroom sink last night.
In a bit of serendipity, I grabbed MrBWS’s plastic jug of Gold Bond Body Powder and just started sprinkling it everywhere and poured a barrier where the wee ants were entering.
The ants started staggering and collapsing immediately.
Today there were three confused stragglers trying to find a way out.
I’m thinking it was the menthol in the Gold Bond.
Anyway, just wanted to share what is apparently The Best Ant Repellant Ever!

89 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2015 4:53:58pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Supportn’ our troops the secessionist way.

well, you know, if they don’t kill HIM, then there are probably reasons not to kill OTHER convicts, and the next thing you know, they’re not killing ANYONE!

Can’t have that.

91 Mattand  Jan 13, 2015 4:55:20pm

Speaking of our wonderful Governor Even Keel:

Chris Christie excludes local media from pre-State of the State address meeting

Translation: “Fuck you local losers. I’m outta here.”

This guy makes W look like a erudite Rhodes scholar.

92 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 4:55:39pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody better tell Ant Man about that effect. Might ruin the movie in the first scene.

93 dog philosopher  Jan 13, 2015 4:57:03pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anyway, just wanted to share what is apparently The Best Ant Repellant Ever!

you mean you didnt try playing the burl ives christmas album??

94 b.d.  Jan 13, 2015 4:57:42pm

Glad this guy is off the streets and that the Speaker of the House lives to drink another day.

Point of clarification though. Are we supposed to turn in people who claim to talk to God and do what he wants or are we supposed to vote for them?

95 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 4:57:49pm

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

96 De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2015 4:58:07pm

Just came across the following passage while reading Cary Elwes’ entertaining book “As You Wish; Inconceivable Tales From The Making of The Princess Bride.” Pardon the length, but I gotta share this story.

[André René Roussimoff, better known as André The Giant] grew up on a farm built by his father, Boris, in the small village of Molien, which was about forty miles from Paris. He told me that by the time he was twelve he had already grown to a height of six feet two and 240 pounds and that he was so big that he could no longer ride on the local bus that transported the other children to school.

Sometime after that, the great Irish playwright, Samuel Beckett, bought some land in Molien and decided to move there. […] Being a handyman as well as a farmer, Roussimoff, Sr. offered to help Beckett build his country cottage and eventually the two struck up a friendship. When the playwright learned of André’s issues with the school bus, he offered to drive the boy to school, explaining that he had a convertible—the only one in town—and thus, the only vehicle that could possibly accommodate André’s size.

And so, for a time at least, the Nobel Prize-winning author of Waiting For Godot chauffeured the young man who would eventually become the most famous wrestler in history to and from school. […]

I asked André what he and the famous author talked about when they were together.

“Mostly cricket,” André recalled.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 4:59:03pm

re: #92 Rightwingconspirator

Somebody better tell Ant Man about that effect. Might ruin the movie in the first scene.

Really, I was amazed at how immediate the effect was.
I always used the homemade borax/sugar mix and that can take several days.
The Gold Bond was working right before my eyes.
Downside is that there is Gold Bond powder all over the sink, counter and back splash (and some on the wall…) that needs cleaning up.

98 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 4:59:24pm

Damn stuck downtown… But better safe than sorry these days.

99 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 5:01:28pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, whatever else I may wish for the Speaker, I don’t wish him harm. Glad this apparent nutcase was stopped before following through.

But boy, does this make the case for more funding for mental health, and universal background checks for firearm purchases!

The first yes, the second, maybe. We don’t know when this guy bought his two guns. He might have bought them before he had mental problems.

I am glad his mother took away his SKS rifle when he started losing it. For once, I’m glad a gun got grabbed.

100 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 5:02:40pm

Wow this @ericdondero guy is an UTTER FUCKING ASSHOLE. I looked at his timeline and now I have to soak my eyes in Gold Bond solution.

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:03:56pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

The first yes, the second, maybe. We don’t know when this guy bought his two guns. He might have bought them before he had mental problems.

I am glad his mother took away his SKS rifle when he started losing it. For once, I’m glad a gun got grabbed.

And that’s why there needs to be some sort of mental health qualification to own guns. The man has obvious mental health issues; he should not have any access to guns.

102 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 5:04:31pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

For once, I’m glad a gun got grabbed.

I guess it would be IMPOSSIBLE for you to think of another situation when it might have been good for someone to have their gun(s) taken away, huh?

And by the way…there is, of course, no gun grabbing of any description going on in this country. Don’t wear that term out before 2016 when it will be used dishonestly to drive people to the polls.

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:04:43pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

Wow this @ericdondero guy is an UTTER FUCKING ASSHOLE. I looked at his timeline and now I have to soak my eyes in Gold Bond solution.

Yeah, I saw some of his stuff earlier.
yowser…

104 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:05:02pm

US Supreme Court denies request for clemency from Vietnam veteran scheduled for execution Tuesday night in Georgia - @11AliveNews
end of alert

105 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 5:08:55pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’s why there needs to be some sort of mental health qualification to own guns. The man has obvious mental health issues; he should not have any access to guns.

You know how you have to go into a state agency and get your driver’s license renewed every 5 years and take an eye test. There should be some kind of a status update for gun owners too.

106 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 5:09:09pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

Wow this @ericdondero guy is an UTTER FUCKING ASSHOLE. I looked at his timeline and now I have to soak my eyes in Gold Bond solution.

His name has popped up over the years. He’s a hard-right libertarian and he was an aide to Ron Paul and he’s famous for shooting his mouth off. He has a blog that rivals ccj for its breathless reporting of non-news.

107 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:18:36pm

Here’s a story about Brannan and the deputy he shot.

Vietnam veteran facing execution for death of deputy

11alive.com

They really do believe “an eye for an eye” in GA, no matter what the circumstances.

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:18:58pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

You know how you have to go into a state agency and get your driver’s license renewed every 5 years and take an eye test. There should be some kind of a status update for gun owners too.

When I lived in Illinois, I had to apply to (and be approved by) the Illinois State Police for an FOID (Firearms Owner ID, not a conceal carry, just to own a firearm). It was good for 10 years.
Illinois now has (as of 2013) an mental health provision.

Kentucky doesn’t have any requirements for gun ownership, just carry laws.

109 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 5:19:24pm

Whew. Bye for a bit.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:21:22pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

Whew. Bye for a bit.

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So public transportation systems in three different cities in two days.

hmmm…how soon will CCJ start with the conspiracy theories?

111 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:22:48pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

Whew. Bye for a bit.

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112 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 5:23:32pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’s why there needs to be some sort of mental health qualification to own guns. The man has obvious mental health issues; he should not have any access to guns.

One can be barred from purchasing or owning guns if one has serious mental health issues, but those provisions can’t be engaged until doctors have actually examined someone.

That said, such provisions should have been triggered (poor word for it, given the context, I know) by his prior psychotic episode.

A change in state laws I do think needed is that if someone is diagnosed as having had such a psychotic episode, the police in that person’s municipality need to be alerted and should be charged with ensuring any guns that person owns are either stored with the police or transferred to non-prohibited persons. For the latter purpose, the police should be allowed to conduct the NICS background check themselves (for a small fee) in order to speed things along.

113 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 5:25:13pm

If one innocent person is executed, it’s one too many. Get rid of the damn thing. Yesterday.

114 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 5:25:31pm

Brownies are good.

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:26:59pm

re: #114 b_sharp

Brownies are good.

Pixies are good, too…

116 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:30:02pm

What global warming? Let’s go ice skating! ///

Great Lakes ice cover expands to 29.3%; ice cover on Lake Erie reaches 81.9% - @stormchaser4850
end of alert

117 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 5:30:03pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pixies are good, too…

No, pixies are evil.

118 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:30:53pm

re: #117 b_sharp

No, pixies are evil.

Even pixie haircuts? I have one : )

119 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 5:32:25pm

re: #116 Justanotherhuman

What global warming? Let’s go ice skating! ///

Great Lakes ice cover expands to 29.3%; ice cover on Lake Erie reaches 81.9% - @stormchaser4850
end of alert

Good news is good news. Too little ice cover is bad for the Great Lakes.

120 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 5:32:30pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Pixies are badass.

121 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 5:33:41pm
122 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:36:43pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

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Well, he thinks if you don’t work, you’ve had the liberty to decide not to.

123 lawhawk  Jan 13, 2015 5:37:37pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

GOP’s first moves in new Congress? Attempting to pass anti-abortion legislation.

124 electrotek  Jan 13, 2015 5:38:08pm

re: #120 Kid A

Pixies are badass.

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Yeah they are, finally had a chance to catch ‘em at Coachella last year, when they were added to the lineup at the last minute.

125 Kid A  Jan 13, 2015 5:38:17pm

re: #123 lawhawk

I figured it would be to make the Bible the official book of the nation.

126 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 5:38:55pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

Even pixie haircuts? I have one : )

All women look attractive, pixie cut, bald or lady Godiva hair.

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2015 5:39:16pm

re: #117 b_sharp

No, pixies are evil.

Only when they start throwing that pixel dust…

128 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 5:39:41pm

re: #120 Kid A

Pixies are badass.

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Pixies :: Where Is My Mind

129 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 5:42:19pm

Predictable, but still bad:

Record turnout at Dresden PEGIDA rally sees more than 25,000 march

What began as a quiet evening on the Elbe turned into the largest PEGIDA demonstration seen so far in Germany. Early on Monday evening, a group of anti-PEGIDA demonstrators gathered around Dresden’s Theaterplatz and the city’s synagogue, well-supplied with hot tea and potato soup. By 7.15 p.m. local time (1815 GMT), however, over 25,000 PEGIDA supporters were marching through Saxony’s capital, where they were met by sporadic groups of counter demonstrators.

Greeting the marchers at the pre-march rally was movement organizer and regular PEGIDA speaker Lutz Bachmann.

Bachmann said that the group had six key aims, each met by raucous applause: “1. Creation of an Immigration Act. 2. Right and duty to integration. 3. Expulsion of Islamists and religious extremists. 4. Federal referendums 5. An end to warmongering. 6. More means for internal security.”

Three points:

1. I’m told the reference to ‘warmongering’ is about not opposing Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. I can see that as being true but I’d like to hear the thoughts of others on that point.

2. If you click the link, the photo of the march shows a Polish flag among the German ones. I know Poland has sometimes had xenophobic issues of its own, but it was still disappointing to see.

3. Another crazy far-right person surnamed Bachmann, If Germany’s Lutz Bachmann is as bad as America’s Michelle Bachman, then things may get ever uglier.

BBL

130 lawhawk  Jan 13, 2015 5:42:56pm

re: #125 Kid A

Mississippi is attempting that.

131 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:43:00pm

re: #126 b_sharp

All women look attractive, pixie cut, bald or lady Godiva hair.

xxoo

132 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 5:47:09pm

WTFITS==>

133 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:47:49pm

So there’s a new Mexican supermarket down the street from me - Cardenas.

Amaze how their veggies are soooo much cheaper than Albertson’s et al. I stocked up on some cukes, radishes, cilantro, yellow jalapenos….and their prepared carnitas & cooked to order tortillas.

There is such a benefit living in a close to Mexico state. Hi New Mex, AZ, Colorado, and Texas (although they won’t admit it)

134 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 5:47:57pm
135 dog philosopher  Jan 13, 2015 5:48:05pm

re: #126 b_sharp

All women look attractive, pixie cut, bald or lady Godiva hair.

all women are goddesses with magic powers

136 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:48:19pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS==>

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His avatar kinda says it.

137 electrotek  Jan 13, 2015 5:48:23pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Predictable, but still bad:

Record turnout at Dresden PEGIDA rally sees more than 25,000 march

Three points:

1. I’m told the reference to ‘warmongering’ is about not opposing Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. I can see that as being true but I’d like to hear the thoughts of others on that point.

2. If you click the link, the photo of the march shows a Polish flag among the German ones. I know Poland has sometimes had xenophobic issues of its own, but it was still disappointing to see.

3. Another crazy far-right person surnamed Bachmann, If Germany’s Lutz Bachmann is as bad as America’s Michelle Bachman, then things may get ever uglier.

BBL

I’m surprised there aren’t any Assyrian flags present at these rallies, given how they are often used by Islamophobes when it comes to demonizing Muslims.

138 prairiefire  Jan 13, 2015 5:48:54pm

re: #135 dog philosopher

all women are goddesses with magic powers

Charmer.

139 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 5:49:10pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

To create jobs they will repeal the Minimum Wage. Protestant fundamentalists will have the liberty to impose their religious views on everyone and the security of .1% will be assured.

140 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:49:29pm

Update: Suspicious packages that closed down Metro tunnel in Hollywood determined to contain only clothes, authorities say; area cleared to public - @LASDHQ
end of alert

141 Belafon  Jan 13, 2015 5:49:42pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

Proof our side doesn’t do terrorist attacks.

142 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:49:54pm

re: #138 prairiefire

Charmer.

I freaking want a date, he was that good.

143 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:51:32pm

BTW Prairie, how are you?? You pop in every once & awhile.

How were the holiday’s etc? (sending me those antique ornaments yet?)

ha

Hope you are really well.

144 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 5:51:59pm

re: #133 #FergusonFireside

So there’s a new Canadian supermarket down the street & across the border from me - Metro.

Amaze how their veggies are soooo much cheaper than Meijer et al. I stocked up on some cukes, radishes, parsley, green peppers….and their prepared poutine & Tim Horton’s coffee bar.

There is such a benefit living in a close to Canada state. Hi Michigan, MN, Vermont, and New York (although they won’t admit it)

145 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 5:52:14pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS==>

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A fruitcake who comes up with all these ridiculous statistical arguments against AGW but instead show his poor grasp of stats. Not his real name either.

146 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 5:52:35pm

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

love it!

147 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 5:52:39pm

re: #135 dog philosopher

all women are goddesses with magic powers

Scary isn’t it?

148 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 5:53:15pm

re: #139 Higgs Boson’s Mate

To create jobs they will repeal the Minimum Wage. Protestant fundamentalists will have the liberty to impose their religious views on everyone and the security of .1% will be assured.

IF PEOPLE WOULD WORK FOR FREE THEIR WOULD BE 0% UNEMPLOYMENT!!!11!!

149 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 5:53:17pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

2. If you click the link, the photo of the march shows a Polish flag among the German ones. I know Poland has sometimes had xenophobic issues of its own, but it was still disappointing to see.

That is NOT the Polish flag…you should be evicted from Chicagoland for not knowing the red goes on the BOTTOM, as in this 1920’s version:

I certainly don’t think it is an Indonesian flag, nor that of Singapore or Monaco (all of which have the red on top, opposite of the Polish version), but I am stumped as to what it is meant to be. It isn’t the flag of the German federal state of Thuringia, that one is also white over red like Poland.

And being part Polish myself, I am NOT going to go for the obvious Polish joke sitting on the table here.

150 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 5:53:58pm

I miss the Jolly Green Giant.

151 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 5:54:52pm

He was huge and green, but you couldn’t be scared because he was so fucking jolly.

152 Belafon  Jan 13, 2015 5:56:03pm

re: #149 bratwurst

It’s a variant of the Polish flag with the coat of arms: en.wikipedia.org

Google image drop really comes in handy.

153 CleverToad  Jan 13, 2015 5:56:07pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm, will have to remember this come spring when the little buggers start trekking across the bathroom floor again. Every flippin’ year, as sure a sign as the first robin, if considerably less poetic.

154 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:56:11pm

re: #149 bratwurst

It’s the Brandenburg flag.

en.wikipedia.org

155 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 5:57:26pm

re: #154 Justanotherhuman

It’s the Brandenburg flag.

en.wikipedia.org

Bingo.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 5:57:42pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

You know how you have to go into a state agency and get your driver’s license renewed every 5 years and take an eye test. There should be some kind of a status update for gun owners too.

Don’t they renew their NRA membership every year?
/// j/k

157 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 5:58:27pm

re: #155 bratwurst

Bingo.

Damned Prussians.

158 nines09  Jan 13, 2015 5:59:42pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

Not in his later years I hear. It seems keeping upbeat and jolly 24/7 took it’s toll on him and he just shrank away.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 6:01:12pm

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

Update: Suspicious packages that closed down Metro tunnel in Hollywood determined to contain only clothes, authorities say; area cleared to public - @LASDHQ
end of alert

Terrorist streakers?!?
//

160 ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2015 6:04:04pm

re: #158 nines09

Not in his later years I hear. It seems keeping upbeat and jolly 24/7 took it’s toll on him and he just shrank away.

Didn’t Sprout ever grow up to become the next Giant???

Don’t shake my world like this. /

161 Belafon  Jan 13, 2015 6:04:20pm

re: #155 bratwurst

It’s not the Brandenburg flag. The Brandenburg flag has the coat of arms crossing both bars, where the variant Polish flag has it at the top, where it is in your picture.

162 prairiefire  Jan 13, 2015 6:04:35pm

re: #143 #FergusonFireside

Thanks, doll. I’m ok, I keep having reacquiring staff infections and I am being checked for MRSA, which would suck.

Business is good! People are using their extra gas savings to buy dolls and collectible toys on Ebay.

I always want to check in here, it is such a great group of lizards! SMOOCH

163 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 6:04:46pm

The OJ trial thingy is on CNN. Alan Dershowitz et all.

164 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 6:05:40pm
165 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 6:07:04pm

re: #162 prairiefire

Thanks, doll. I’m ok, I keep having reacquiring staff infections and I am being checked for MRSA, which would suck.

Business is good! People are using their extra gas savings to buy dolls and collectible toys on Ebay.

I always want to check in here, it is such a great group of lizards! SMOOCH

Good. GOOD. You are my oldie bud here you know.

166 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 6:08:36pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

Didn’t Sprout ever grow up to become the next Giant???

Don’t shake my world like this. /

Sprout was last seen heading for Woodstock in a VW bus. He’s believed to be living in a commune somewhere in New Mexico. Rumor has it that he’s developed an unhealthy hatred for Louie Gohmert.

167 Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2015 6:09:00pm
168 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 6:09:42pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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The Jolly Green Giant had a warlike side.

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169 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 6:11:35pm

re: #161 Belafon

It’s not the Brandenburg flag. The Brandenburg flag has the coat of arms crossing both bars, where the variant Polish flag has it at the top, where it is in your picture.

I think you are misunderstanding the question. Here is the flag at the Dresden rally:

Now here is the flag of the German state of Brandenburg:

and here again is Poland:

170 Belafon  Jan 13, 2015 6:13:01pm

re: #169 bratwurst

OK. Sorry. I was going off the picture at #149.

171 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 6:15:37pm

re: #169 bratwurst

I think you are misunderstanding the question. Here is the flag at the Dresden rally:

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Looks like the flag of East Germany, minus the emblem.

172 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 6:17:13pm
Looks like the flag of East Germany, minus the emblem.

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Well yes…that is known as the former West German flag, now the flag of united Germany. DF misidentified the red and white flag in the background.

173 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 6:19:14pm

Red & white horizontal bars is the flag of Indonesia

174 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 6:21:32pm

On a morbid but all too accurate note:

175 Justanotherhuman  Jan 13, 2015 6:22:15pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm, etc. : )

176 b_sharp  Jan 13, 2015 6:24:37pm

I used to be here.

Now I’m n

177 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 6:33:42pm

I can’t take my eyes off this. It’s just like watching a train wreck. Oh wait… not like
WATCH Michigan 170 Car Pileup VIDEO | 170 Car Pile-Up On Michigan Highway I-94! - FULL

178 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 6:35:21pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t take my eyes off this. It’s just like watching a train wreck. Oh wait… not like
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Video

Better to stand there filming than to say, throw out some road flares, eh?

179 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 6:35:44pm

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180 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 13, 2015 6:44:56pm

re: #178 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It would have taken more time than they had to walk up and place them effectively. Being any place on the other side of that median could have meant death. I’ve driven that many times and understand the scale.

181 PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2015 6:50:36pm

re: #179 A Cranky One

It depends on your definition of “nuts.”

182 TedStriker  Jan 13, 2015 6:54:50pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t take my eyes off this. It’s just like watching a train wreck. Oh wait… not like
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Video

Is it just me or are most of those drivers going way too fast for the conditions?

183 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 6:54:52pm
184 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 6:56:18pm

The Georgia execution went on schedule.

185 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 7:00:27pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

The Georgia execution went on schedule.

Biblical.

186 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 7:02:40pm

Notice that Chuck doesn’t immediately start digging for a criminal record on this white suspect.

187 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:03:06pm

re: #185 #FergusonFireside

Biblical.

They should be made to eat what they kill.

188 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2015 7:03:41pm

re: #182 TedStriker

Is it just me or are most of those drivers going way too fast for the conditions?

They were going way too fast, also coming around a curve and could not see what was waiting around the bend. Also, whiteout conditions and black ice.

189 PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2015 7:03:56pm

Oh darn that four letter word is in the local forecast again. Snow. yuck.
forecast.weather.gov

190 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:04:46pm

What is snow?

191 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:05:33pm

re: #190 BigPapa

What is snow?

Water fumes.

192 PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2015 7:06:14pm

re: #190 BigPapa

re: #191 Decatur Deb

lol

193 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2015 7:08:13pm

re: #28 Kid A

But Lefties don’t have guns, or believe in Jesus!

194 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 7:08:45pm

re: #187 Decatur Deb

They should be made to eat what they kill.

Death Room State Employees. Imagine them.

195 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 7:09:22pm

re: #190 BigPapa

What is snow?

Hawaii Man speaks.

196 PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2015 7:10:31pm

re: #195 #FergusonFireside

That is why I responded with “lol.”

197 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 7:11:27pm
198 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 7:12:28pm

re: #169 bratwurst

I think you are misunderstanding the question. Here is the flag at the Dresden rally:

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Sorry about the goof, BW. I didn’t look carefully enough.

199 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 7:12:43pm

re: #126 b_sharp

All women look attractive, pixie cut, bald or lady Godiva hair.

“Man has been to the moon, done ‘bout all a man can do
But a woman is the wonder of the world
From her head to her toes man ain’t caughtu what she can throw
Yes, a woman is the wonder of the world

Woman is the wonder of the world
She may be high society or just a good old fashioned girl
When she was made she pulled the shade on Mother Nature’s pearl
She ain’t much, she’s just the wonder of the world”

Billy Joe Shaver

200 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:14:09pm

re: #195 #FergusonFireside

Hawaii Man speaks.

201 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 7:14:29pm

re: #187 Decatur Deb

They should be made to eat what they kill.

With or without the fava beans and Chianti?

202 TedStriker  Jan 13, 2015 7:15:06pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Notice that Chuck doesn’t immediately start digging for a criminal record on this white suspect.

Chuck and the SMOTI are too busy looking for their political affiliation and records of Mr. Schitzophrenic Bartender to make them out to be a librul.

And, if they can’t find it, chances are they’ll just make shit up, as they seem wont to do.

203 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:16:57pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

With or without the fava beans and Chianti?

Jack Daniels. Let them make a proper feast of it.

204 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:17:37pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

I’m just down the hill from there. Where it’s warm.

205 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 7:19:51pm

re: #181 PhillyPretzel

After posting the comment, I realized that it might be construed to be making fun of mental illness. That was NOT my intent. I’ve struggled my entire life with severe depression and fully understand the toll it takes. I also understand the stigma of mental disorder, which make me reluctant to seek treatment for most of my life. Thanks to the wonderful support of family and friends and treatment, I’m currently doing well.

I’ve also reached the point where I’m willing to discuss such personal information because I now feel that my illness is nothing to be ashamed of and also to let others who are struggling with the same issues know that people understand and can help.

206 Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2015 7:20:10pm
207 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2015 7:20:56pm

re: #42 ObserverArt

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

208 prairiefire  Jan 13, 2015 7:21:42pm

re: #204 BigPapa

I’m just down the hill from there. Where it’s warm.

Pele’s going to take 130 highway and then our folks will be cut off from Pahoa.

209 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 7:22:06pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

Probably one of the ball-washers out on the golf course.
//

210 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 7:22:11pm

re: #202 TedStriker

Chuck and the SMOTI are too busy looking for their political affiliation and records of Mr. Psycho Bartender to make them out to be a librul.

And, if they can’t find it, chances are they’ll just make shit up, as they seem wont to do.

Actually, I think they’re more likely to bemoan its failure. They hate John Boehner that much.

211 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 7:22:25pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

A guy on the inside with an obscure Twitter handle who only has one follower…

212 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:23:13pm

re: #211 thedopefishlives

A guy on the inside with an obscure Twitter handle who only has one follower…

…but monster toxicology skilz.

213 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2015 7:23:43pm

re: #181 PhillyPretzel

“Show me you’re nuts”

214 TedStriker  Jan 13, 2015 7:24:06pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

Or in whatever OH PDs are working on this

Or at the Capitol Police

Or at the FBI.

215 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2015 7:24:20pm

re: #209 Feline Fearless Leader

More like the explosive gopher.

216 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:25:22pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

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That guy’s got some serious problems. I can’t stand Boehner but this was obviously serious. The Ginger Avenger really needs to get the hell over himself.

217 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 7:25:45pm

re: #153 CleverToad

Hmm, will have to remember this come spring when the little buggers start trekking across the bathroom floor again. Every flippin’ year, as sure a sign as the first robin, if considerably less poetic.

The ants are singing, like the robin, only their voices are too high pitched for you to hear.
/

218 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:25:46pm

re: #208 prairiefire

Pele’s going to take 130 highway and then our folks will be cut off from Pahoa.

I go Pahoa side an drink lots of Heineken and stop Pele. She cool.

219 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:26:07pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

“My guy at the country club bar tells me that Boehner uses Pepsi for his Cuba libres.” //

220 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:26:55pm

re: #218 BigPapa

I go Pahoa side an drink lots of Heineken and stop Pele. She cool.

Takes a lot of Heineken to cool Pele.

221 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:27:10pm

Oh noes, we got a spat going on:

Don’t Buy What Neil Young Is Selling

222 Eventual Carrion  Jan 13, 2015 7:27:50pm

re: #209 Feline Fearless Leader

Probably one of the ball-washers out on the golf course.
//

The ones on the course have it better then the ones in the men’s room.

223 thedopefishlives  Jan 13, 2015 7:28:38pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

That guy’s got some serious problems. I can’t stand Boehner but this was obviously serious. The Ginger Avenger really needs to get the hell over himself.

Not going to happen. The guy’s got an ego the size of Rush Freakin’ Limbaugh.

224 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:29:54pm

re: #223 thedopefishlives

Not going to happen. The guy’s got an ego the size of Rush Freakin’ Limbaugh.

Seriously Glenn Beck could talk to him about humility. I’ve never seen such an obnoxious right wing asshole and there’s a lot of obnoxious right wing assholes out there.

225 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:30:07pm

I played with a Pono and thought the design was stupid: triangular? Oookay.

But the touchscreen is like the original iPod Nano, really small.

I could not hear the difference in sound quality, but I listened to music I didn’t know on a non-optimal system. But I’d like to know if this is true:

The CD-quality standard—which Young and HRA proponents say isn’t sufficient—wasn’t adopted randomly. It’s not a number plucked out of thin air. It’s based on sampling theory and the actual limits of human hearing. To the human ear, audio sampled above 44.1 kHz/16-bit is inaudibly different.

226 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:31:46pm

I thought the iPod Classic was about as perfect a music player as you’ll find. I was really disappointed to hear Apple stopped making them.

227 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:34:18pm

re: #222 Eventual Carrion

The ones on the course have it better then the ones in the men’s room.

What wif the fresh air an’ all…

228 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 7:35:09pm

re: #225 BigPapa

I see the Pono as a massive tax writeoff for Young and the mfrs after it fails in the marketplace.

Do people still use music players now? I use my phone, and so do my students.

229 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:36:39pm

re: #228 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I see the Pono as a massive tax writeoff for Young and the mfrs after it fails in the marketplace.

Do people still use music players now? I use my phone, and so do my students.

Still use my iPod Classic. My ITunes Library is way too big to have on a phone.

230 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 7:37:37pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s got a “guy” on the inside at the contry club. Just wait for it.

He’s too busy chasing down the real perps of the CENTCOM twitter hack, desperately trying to prove ISIS had nothing to do with it.

231 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 13, 2015 7:37:44pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

I thought the iPod Classic was about as perfect a music player as you’ll find. I was really disappointed to hear Apple stopped making them.

I’ve got 2 of them, one still in the box for an emergency. Love the fact that it plays forever on a charge, and I can easily manipulate it without looking. Actually posted a pic of it on my FB Timeline recently, asking “Remember when this was the pinnacle of personal music players?”

232 Stephen T.  Jan 13, 2015 7:37:56pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Still use my iPod Classic. My ITunes Library is way too big to have on a phone.

I’m the same way. I don’t think I could ever go through the process of loading only some songs on my phone, I’m glad I still have my classic.

233 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:39:06pm

re: #232 Stephen T.

I’m the same way. I don’t think I could ever go through the process of loading only some songs on my phone, I’m glad I still have my classic.

Right. Just a pain. I bring my Classic with me whereever I go anyhow.

234 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 7:39:34pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Still use my iPod Classic. My ITunes Library is way too big to have on a phone.

If I had one, I’d probably do the same. I’ve still got a first gen iPod Shuffle in a drawer, but its battery has gone flaky, so it’s only useable for a few hours at best.

235 HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2015 7:40:42pm

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve got 2 of them, one still in the box for an emergency. Love the fact that it plays forever on a charge, and I can easily manipulate it without looking. Actually posted a pic of it on my FB Timeline recently, asking “Remember when this was the pinnacle of personal music players?”

I remember winning a 30GB one at my high school grad party in 2005. Ended up finishing with a 160GB one. It really is amazing. I wrote a paper about the evolution of digital music players. It’s truly fascinating. I think Neil’s intentions are good but I think digital music is fine and honestly a great thing. It makes music more accessible to everyone.

236 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:42:52pm

What’s funny: I’m in ‘the biz’ where one may expect I have all the gadgets, a huge library of high quality music, and massive sound system.

I use Sonos, Spotify, and listen to AM radio in the car. I sorta feel guilty that they don’t pay enough to musicians, but the convenience is just too much of a pull for me.

237 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 7:45:22pm

re: #225 BigPapa

I played with a Pono and thought the design was stupid: triangular? Oookay.

But the touchscreen is like the original iPod Nano, really small.

I could not hear the difference in sound quality, but I listened to music I didn’t know on a non-optimal system. But I’d like to know if this is true:

It’s true. The 44.1Khz sampling rate produces high frequencies of 22,050Hz, which is above most people’s hearing range.

238 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 7:46:11pm

re: #225 BigPapa

It’s all that “10,000$ super cable” scam once again.

239 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 7:48:44pm

re: #205 A Cranky One

{Cranky} simplistic, but it’s really a big hug from afar.

240 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:51:20pm

re: #238 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s all that “10,000$ super cable” scam once again.

Yep. I’d like to see the studies that people can really hear the difference between 44.1 and 196.

Especially on their ear buds LOL.

241 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 7:52:25pm

re: #240 BigPapa

Yep. I’d like to see the studies that people can really hear the difference between 44.1 and 196.

Especially on their ear buds LOL.

Can the things you describe drive a decent headset?

242 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 7:52:30pm

re: #240 BigPapa

That article you cited links to a study that seems to prove the opposite.

243 PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2015 7:52:55pm

re: #205 A Cranky One

I am glad to hear that you are getting help and it is working out for you. If you do not think it is too personal you not only get an upding, you also get a big hug. {{{ cranky one }}}

244 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 7:54:43pm

I remember hearing an SACD of solo sax on a very high end theater. I could head the guy licking the instrument, and every valve is sax. Pretty awesome.

I want that in my earbuds.

245 #FergusonFireside  Jan 13, 2015 7:59:42pm

Nighty LGF. Boss Man at office tomorrow, so no casual stroll in. (wah)

246 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 8:00:36pm

re: #228 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I see the Pono as a massive tax writeoff for Young and the mfrs after it fails in the marketplace.

Do people still use music players now? I use my phone, and so do my students.

I still have an ipod Nano I use while taking walks. Has 8 GB of music on it - which is probably 80-90% of my collection.

247 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 8:02:45pm
I iz takin a nap
248 De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2015 8:02:55pm

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve got 2 of them, one still in the box for an emergency. Love the fact that it plays forever on a charge, and I can easily manipulate it without looking. Actually posted a pic of it on my FB Timeline recently, asking “Remember when this was the pinnacle of personal music players?”

I listen to music and watch movies on mine every day. 160 GB of wholesome family fun.

249 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 8:04:13pm

re: #225 BigPapa

The CD-quality standard—which Young and HRA proponents say isn’t sufficient—wasn’t adopted randomly. It’s not a number plucked out of thin air. It’s based on sampling theory and the actual limits of human hearing. To the human ear, audio sampled above 44.1 kHz/16-bit is inaudibly different.

Having been an audiophile for a very long time, be warned that you’ve just opened a can of worms ;)

However, I’ve heard Neil discuss digital and he simply doesn’t have a clue how it works. Neil talked about how digital chopped up the sound, obviously not understanding that the final output is an analog signal which matches the original signal. He thinks (as do some audiophiles) that a higher sampling rate will result in a higher definition sound for consumer audio.

Bottom line as an engineer: a properly done digital to analog conversion using the CD standard provides a wide dynamic range with a frequency range better than most speakers can provide or people can hear. When you need very expensive speakers/headphones to actually hear any difference, is the difference in sound quality worth the cost?

After all, mp3 format actually reduces the signal quality but hasn’t suffered that I can tell ;)

250 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 8:06:42pm

Pono, lossless, cd quality…. What Spotify uses etc.

I feel like a blind man at a Photoshop conference.

251 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 13, 2015 8:08:13pm

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

I still have an ipod Nano I use while taking walks. Has 8 GB of music on it - which is probably 80-90% of my collection.

I have a couple of gigs of music on my phone, though I’m more likely to stream either Pandora (heavy metal) or WPR Classical Music than listen to it.

Now on my PC? 91 gb of music & 43 gb of ebooks.

252 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 8:09:12pm

I don’t think you can tell a difference between an MP3 and CD or higher bit rate file in earbuds.

You can with a nicer amp and speakers.

253 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 13, 2015 8:10:45pm

Does Chucky have a source at the bar?

254 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 13, 2015 8:11:10pm

re: #252 BigPapa

I don’t think you can tell a difference between an MP3 and CD or higher bit rate file in earbuds.

You can with a nicer amp and speakers.

And if you have 50 years of loud music & much louder tanks & firearms in the army, you can’t tell the difference for squat except that my left ear has less high frequency loss than my right because you always pushed your headset up off your right ear to talk to others around the tanks.

255 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 13, 2015 8:11:53pm

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Chucky have a source at the bar?

Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, and a couple odd guys with Russian names.
//

256 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 8:12:31pm

re: #255 Feline Fearless Leader

Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, and a couple odd guys with Russian names.
//

I think he went with Arrogant Bastard.

257 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 8:13:48pm

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Chucky have a source at the bar?

re: #255 Feline Fearless Leader

Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, and a couple odd guys with Russian names.
//

re: #256 Rightwingconspirator

I think he went with Arrogant Bastard.

Ween - Booze Me Up and Get Me High - Live in Chicago

258 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 8:14:51pm

re: #239 #FergusonFireside

Thanks and back at ya!

259 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 13, 2015 8:15:22pm

Must not forget the bottle of Glen’Fartin…

Anyway, off to the hotel. Another night, another $64.

260 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 8:15:57pm

re: #242 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

That article you cited links to a study that seems to prove the opposite.

Did you buy the study? I didn’t read that from the summary.

261 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 8:16:39pm

re: #243 PhillyPretzel

Hugs are always therapeutic! Thanks!

262 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 8:16:40pm

re: #254 William Barnett-Lewis

And if you have 50 years of loud music & much louder tanks & firearms in the army, you can’t tell the difference for squat except that my left ear has less high frequency loss than my right because you always pushed your headset up off your right ear to talk to others around the tanks.

You got audio screened on the way out?

263 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 8:17:53pm

re: #254 William Barnett-Lewis

The more live concerts you went to, the less likely the higher bit rate helps. Or the more you played rock and roll onstage…

264 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Jan 13, 2015 8:18:07pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

After a four year battle, I may have defeated the flour moths, but my ants remain. I’ve made peace with it. They arrive in June and leave late August - it’s just part of summer. There’s always a few ants scouting out the scene, but they leave my stored food alone, and just arrive in mass if there’s a tempting item left out (they love lettuce and BBQ chicken.)

It used to drive me nuts, but now it doesn’t bother me. Just a reminder to keep the Kitchen clean.

265 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 8:18:42pm

Here’s a story to link to when replying to wingnuts railing about Europe’s Muslim’s on Twitter:

A White Man Committed Europe’s Worst Terror Attack in the Past 10 Years

Don’t forget about the nativist far right

by KEVIN KNODELL

Many commentators have asserted that the Charlie Hebdo massacre—and the attack on a French Kosher grocery store—is the worst terrorist atrocity in Europe in a decade.

“This is the worst terrorist attack in Europe since the attacks in London in July of 2005,” former CIA deputy director Michael Morell told CBS News on Jan. 7. “We haven’t lost this many people since that attack.”

The killings in Paris are no doubt absolutely tragic and a sickening assault on free expression.

But what Morell said simply isn’t true. The worst terror attack in the past 10 years in Europe occurred on July 22, 2011. That’s when far-right radical Anders Breivik bombed several government buildings and shot up a summer camp in Norway.

The Islamists who attacked the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo killed 12 people, and the related grocery store shooter killed five people. At least 21 others sustained injuries. Breivik’s rampage killed 77 people and wounded 319, mostly teenagers.

266 Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2015 8:21:36pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake:

Del. Joseph D. Morrissey on Tuesday won a special election to keep his seat in the 74th House of Delegates district, making him the first jailed lawmaker in modern Virginia history to win reelection.

On the eve of the General Assembly session, Speaker of the House William J. Howell, R-Stafford and House Democratic leaders said they still find Morrissey’s conduct unacceptable and will explore all options to oust him from the legislature.

Morrissey, the Democrat-turned-independent, defeated Democrat Kevin Sullivan and Republican Matt Walton in spite of Morrissey’s ongoing legal woes and controversy over his conviction for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

With all 33 precincts reporting, Morrissey had 42.26 percent of the tally, to Sullivan’s 33.37 percent, according to the Virginia Department of Elections. Walton trailed with 24.13 percent of the vote.

richmond.com

267 Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2015 8:22:12pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a story to link to when replying to wingnuts railing about Europe’s Muslim’s on Twitter:

A White Man Committed Europe’s Worst Terror Attack in the Past 10 Years

Don’t forget about the nativist far right

by KEVIN KNODELL

And it was at least partly religious-motivated. He had a crusader knight fantasy going.

268 Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2015 8:23:32pm

And with this, I’m outta here:
Massive Attack - Live With Me

269 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 8:30:33pm

Sooo, on this interesting day where I read all about the newspaper that photoshopped out all the women leaders, I now see a show on Al Jaz about how Iranian women are not allowed to sing solo? Not even in strictly proper attire? Just a woman’s solo voice is considered too much. too enticing. Fundies are inexplicable. Christian, whatever.

270 bratwurst  Jan 13, 2015 8:31:34pm

re: #252 BigPapa

I don’t think you can tell a difference between an MP3 and CD or higher bit rate file in earbuds.

This is certainly my feeling.

While there are definite issues with Pono, I wonder if part of the extreme hard feelings it is generating relates to the ongoing war to firmly establish the “streaming model” as dominant. Personally, I like to listen to some things that are not currently available from Spotify et al (due to artist preference or just their obscurity) and I also like to feel free to listen to my music when I am “off the grid”. The demise of the only Apple player large enough to hold my MP3 collection is a worrying development to me.

271 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 13, 2015 8:32:59pm

re: #256 Rightwingconspirator

I think he went with Arrogant Bastard.

For what ales him.

272 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 8:35:24pm

re: #270 bratwurst

I need a Dropbox for music. Too bad it doesn’t work that way.

273 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 8:36:48pm

re: #260 BigPapa

audiocircle.com

274 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 8:37:53pm

re: #267 Decatur Deb

IIRC that Europol report cited earlier doesn’t count this as religious terrorism.

275 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 8:40:12pm

re: #273 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Also mixonline.com

276 Dark_Falcon  Jan 13, 2015 8:47:33pm

re: #274 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

IIRC that Europol report cited earlier doesn’t count this as religious terrorism.

Well, the political angle was Brevik’s primary motive. The religious angle was just hateful icing on top of the turd cake.

277 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 8:49:42pm

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

Interestingly, now he claims that he’s really a neo-Nazi and he had inserted all those references to Geller et al. in order to discredit the “Jewish” wing of the counter-Jihadi movement.

278 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 8:53:10pm
279 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 8:54:16pm

re: #228 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I see the Pono as a massive tax writeoff for Young and the mfrs after it fails in the marketplace.

Do people still use music players now? I use my phone, and so do my students.

Neil is a different breed of talent.

Back in the 1970s - Neil demanded that his next Lp cover had to be made from some recyclable material like oatmeal, so the purchaser, if they do choose, could pour milk over the cover and eat it like oatmeal.

Since that demand held up the release of the album, Joe Smirh had to get on one of the WEA jets to meet with Neil and convince him to agree to a more conventional package.

280 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:00:26pm

A musician friend of mine spoofed Keep On Rocking In The Free World into “Keep On Walkin Through Marine World.”

He will not play it at parties any more despite much whining and cajoling.

281 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:09:36pm

re: #252 BigPapa

I don’t think you can tell a difference between an MP3 and CD or higher bit rate file in earbuds.

You can with a nicer amp and speakers.

Yup. mp3 is a lossy algorithm. I as an ex-audiophile, I still have some nice toys to listen to and there is a difference. My point was simply that with most speakers/headphones, the majority of folks don’t notice the difference.

The science behind analog to digital conversion is well established, and the CD standard, when properly used, will provide a wider frequency range than almost anyone can hear. And the output signal will match the input signal exactly within the specified ranges in the standard.

Higher sampling rates can capture higher frequencies, but is that an advantage? Truth be told, when you start talking about frequencies above 16kHz, studies have shown that unless you’re a young girl you aren’t going to hear them (CD provides up to 20kHz). Back in my serious audiophile days my ex was an audiologist. So of course I used her equipment to try, no joy. Still bought better audio stuff though. Ah, happy days. (I seem to recall that gender differences were a function of exposure to high sound pressure levels).

Could some listeners, using very high quality playback equipment hear a difference between the new standard being pitched by Neil and the CD standard? Yes. But over time, exposure to high pressure levels takes it’s toll on all of us, and most of us can’t hear it.

Sadly. (Sigh)

283 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 9:13:04pm

re: #254 William Barnett-Lewis

And if you have 50 years of loud music & much louder tanks & firearms in the army, you can’t tell the difference for squat except that my left ear has less high frequency loss than my right because you always pushed your headset up off your right ear to talk to others around the tanks.

Never messed around with tanks, but that’s why I always wore foam earplugs backstage at concerts.

284 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 13, 2015 9:16:04pm

re: #262 Decatur Deb

You got audio screened on the way out?

Yes the damage wasn’t all that bad but was enough to make audiophile grade equipment a bad purchase for me.

285 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:19:25pm

re: #281 A Cranky One

A couple of years ago me and a buddy geeked around, we couldn’t hear above 16k. Actually, more than a few years ago.

But good bass still matters. We’ll be able to feel that until we’re dead.

286 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:19:30pm

re: #281 A Cranky One

Yup. mp3 is a lossy algorithm. I as an ex-audiophile, I still have some nice toys to listen to and there is a difference. My point was simply that with most speakers/headphones, the majority of folks don’t notice the difference.

The science behind analog to digital conversion is well established, and the CD standard, when properly used, will provide a wider frequency range than almost anyone can hear. And the output signal will match the input signal exactly within the specified ranges in the standard.

Higher sampling rates can capture higher frequencies, but is that an advantage? Truth be told, when you start talking about frequencies above 16kHz, studies have shown that unless you’re a young girl you aren’t going to hear them (CD provides up to 20kHz). Back in my serious audiophile days my ex was an audiologist. So of course I used her equipment to try, no joy. Still bought better audio stuff though. Ah, happy days. (I seem to recall that gender differences were a function of exposure to high sound pressure levels).

Could some listeners, using very high quality playback equipment hear a difference between the new standard being pitched by Neil and the CD standard? Yes. But over time, exposure to high pressure levels takes it’s toll on all of us, and most of us can’t hear it.

Sadly. (Sigh)

My dad’s best friend tested equipment and wrote for Audio magazine. This was well before the digital music revolution. His testing booth in his home was soundproofed, so ambient noise couldn’t affect his listening. He had high-end speakers and headphones, and with them he could hear the difference between direct-to-disc (vinyl, yo) and the usual tape-to-disc process. But, he said, you had to listen intently in a very quiet room to hear the difference.

The vast majority of music listeners do not listen to their tunes in soundproofed rooms, so the Pono’s supposedly superior audio quality will be lost to them. It’s a gimmick, and old Neil should stick to making music, not shilling for equipment manufacturers.

287 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:21:23pm

re: #285 BigPapa

A couple of years ago me and a buddy geeked around, we couldn’t hear above 16k. Actually, more than a few years ago.

But good bass still matters. We’ll be able to feel that until we’re dead.

So, you’re all about the bass, no treble?

288 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:21:26pm

In my previous life one of the most popular courses at Drexel University was the Physics of Hi-Fi

289 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:22:15pm

I do get to finish out a theater with $90k worth of Meyer Sound speakers later this year. Still haven’t figured what I’m going to listen to post-calibration.

Really stuck on Tool 10,000 Days right now.

290 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:22:29pm

I try to save everything in mp3’s simply because my car will play CD’s with mp3’s on them, so the 6 CD player will hold about 700 songs.

291 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:22:42pm

re: #273 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Nice link. Sums it up very well. Thanks.

Bottom line: the science behind the CD standard is reasonable. Higher res formats are basically snake oil for the majority of folks.

Now you’ve made me curious to see if there are any recent studies showing younger generations having higher hearing loss due to more exposure to high sound pressure levels. Hmmm. Nice insomnia project!

292 Khal Wimpo  Jan 13, 2015 9:23:14pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

He was huge and green, but you couldn’t be scared because he was so fucking jolly.

I was always somewhat disturbed by his relationship with Sprout. That little guy had a haunted look in his eyes.

293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:23:34pm

re: #291 A Cranky One

WHAT??

294 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:23:59pm

re: #287 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

So, you’re all about the bass, no treble?

HEY WATCH IT BUDDY
Kenny Loggins - Danger Zone

295 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:24:26pm

Funny…I find it completely plausible that Boehner is responsible for Ebola.

// sarcasm, motherfuckers!

296 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:24:58pm

re: #291 A Cranky One

Yuo know, come to think of it, I used to hear people’s music bleeding through their earphones, but not so much anymore.

297 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 9:25:51pm

re: #289 BigPapa

I do get to finish out a theater with $90k worth of Meyer Sound speakers later this year. Still haven’t figured what I’m going to listen to post-calibration.

Really stuck on Tool 10,000 Days right now.

Shit, man. That’s a really tough one. 10,000 days is sonically amazing. So is The Mars Volta’s Frances The Mute.

298 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:26:05pm

re: #294 BigPapa

HEY WATCH IT BUDDY
[Embedded content]

We have a page for administrators on our application called /Dangerzone - all the features there can make changes to the live database, so we have a loop of Kenny Loggins’ Dangerzone playing for as long as you’re on the page. Funny, but a very annoying reminder that one must be careful.

299 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:27:25pm

I’ll give you bass:

The Who - Trick of The Light 1989

300 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:29:02pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

Shit, man. That’s a really tough one. 10,000 days is sonically amazing. So is The Mars Volta’s Frances The Mute.

Mars Volta sucks! - Bonnaroo 2005 - after eating a very large amount of mushrooms, I guided the rest of the people from our camp to Crewe de Carnivale at 2am…except I led them to the wrong stage, and through 15,000 people, to the front of the stage with the Mars Volta playing…we stood for about two minutes before realizing it, and I said, “Mars Volta Sucks!” and led the group back through the crowd and across the field to where Galactic was playing. Good times.

301 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:30:32pm

re: #299 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’ll give you bass:

[Embedded content]

I give you BASS

Grateful Dead - The Other One 7-7-89

302 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 9:31:36pm

re: #300 darthstar

Mars Volta sucks! - Bonnaroo 2005 - after eating a very large amount of mushrooms, I guided the rest of the people from our camp to Crewe de Carnivale at 2am…except I led them to the wrong stage, and through 15,000 people, to the front of the stage with the Mars Volta playing…we stood for about two minutes before realizing it, and I said, “Mars Volta Sucks!” and led the group back through the crowd and across the field to where Galactic was playing. Good times.

I would have chosen Galactic over The Mars Volta at a festival as well. I’ve never seen The Mars Volta live, I still like their albums.

Speaking of Bonnaroo, Slayer is playing Bonnaroo 2015. Fucking Slayer.

303 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:32:33pm

re: #283 BeenHereAwhile

Never messed around with tanks, but that’s why I always wore foam earplugs backstage at concerts.

Very smart. My ex (the audiologist) always bet musicians that she could guess their instrument by testing their hearing. Don’t recall she ever lost the bet. I seem to recall that drummers were the easiest to guess.

304 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:32:40pm

re: #294 BigPapa

HEY WATCH IT BUDDY
[Embedded content]

I figure you know about Meghan Trainor, but I’m curious if you can access this music website outside China.

music.baidu.com

It’s in Chinese, but if it loads just click the blue play button.

305 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 13, 2015 9:33:52pm

re: #291 A Cranky One

It’s interesting how they found that a SACD still sounds damn better than an ordinary CD - because of the more careful recording process (that is, if SACD is then converted into a normal CD, there will be no audible diff, so there’s no contradiction - the format still doesn’t matter, but it’s still interesting).

306 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:34:22pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

I would have chosen Galactic over The Mars Volta at a festival as well. I’ve never seen The Mars Volta live, I still like their albums.

Speaking of Bonnaroo, Slayer is playing Bonnaroo 2015. Fucking Slayer.

They’ll have Shania Twain there soon enough. It’s for the young now. Let it go I say.

Slayer sucked when I was young, by the way.

307 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:36:05pm

re: #285 BigPapa

A couple of years ago me and a buddy geeked around, we couldn’t hear above 16k. Actually, more than a few years ago.

But good bass still matters. We’ll be able to feel that until we’re dead.

Preach it!

308 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:37:29pm

re: #286 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Yup.

309 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 9:39:19pm

re: #306 darthstar

They’ll have Shania Twain there soon enough. It’s for the young now. Let it go I say.

Slayer sucked when I was young, by the way.

They weren’t good until they released Reign In Blood, which is an amazing metal album. For all the speed and metal chops those guys have, they are an admittedly one-trick pony. And one of their principal guitarists/songwriters died a couple of years ago of cirrhosis of the liver.

As far as Bonnaroo is concerned, they did host Alice Cooper a few years back and webcast the show. I thought that was fun.

310 makeitstop  Jan 13, 2015 9:39:33pm

re: #279 BeenHereAwhile

Neil is a different breed of talent.

Back in the 1970s - Neil demanded that his next Lp cover had to be made from some recyclable material like oatmeal, so the purchaser, if they do choose, could pour milk over the cover and eat it like oatmeal.

Since that demand held up the release of the album, Joe Smirh had to get on one of the WEA jets to meet with Neil and convince him to agree to a more conventional package.

I was lucky enough to see Crazy Horse at Madison Square Garden on the tour that coincided with the Landing On Water album (for some reason, Neil released the album then decided to take CH out on tour instead of the band that recorded the album), and I got to talk to his then-wife Pegi for a while.

She told a story about how they were flying to vacation, and when they boarded the plane, Neil took the safety instruction sheet out of the seat back and sat staring at it for most of the flight. When they returned from vacation, Neil called the airline and bought the rights to the safety artwork for 50 bucks.

It became the cover art for the Landing On Water album.

311 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:40:09pm

re: #304 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Yes it worked. Much to my wife’s delight. She made me play it to the end.

312 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:41:23pm

re: #285 BigPapa

A couple of years ago me and a buddy geeked around, we couldn’t hear above 16k. Actually, more than a few years ago.

But good bass still matters. We’ll be able to feel that until we’re dead.

When I was a kid visiting my dad’s TV repair shop, I told him I could hear the whine of the flyback transformers in a TV set (they operate at close to 20 kHz, IIRC). He couldn’t.

In my 40s, I could hear up to 17 kHz, but my physics students could hear higher freqs. Now, I think I’d be lucky to hear above 14 kHz. I checked one time using an audio generator for Windows. No joy.

313 BigPapa  Jan 13, 2015 9:41:24pm

re: #305 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Thanks for the digging, it was good reading. You seem to have a knack for that stuff.

314 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:42:19pm

re: #301 darthstar

Bass this:

Heart of the sunrise - Chris Squire - Bass Solo

He don’t look too good

315 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:43:30pm

Jesus Christ they all got hit with the old stick

316 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 13, 2015 9:44:04pm

Woody Allen to Create His First Television Series for Amazon

Amazon Studios has signed Woody Allen to write and direct his first television series.

The “Untitled Woody Allen Project,” a half-hour series, has received a full season order from Amazon, with episodes to be written and directed by Allen. The series will be available exclusively on Amazon Prime Instant Video in the U.S., the UK and Germany…

Can you say “disaster”? I thought you could.

317 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:44:42pm

re: #311 BigPapa

Yes it worked. Much to my wife’s delight. She made me play it to the end.

Cool. You can poke around using the search feature (English names are fine) and find more tracks. It’s the field at the top next to the baidu.com logo.

I’m sure the RIAA is not pleased.

318 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:44:49pm

re: #314 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Gov’t Mule - Thorazine Shuffle

319 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:45:55pm

And some Meat

moe. - “Meat” (Live)

320 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 9:46:13pm

re: #316 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Woody Allen to Create His First Television Series for Amazon

Can you say “disaster”? I thought you could.

First, and last, I wager.

321 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 9:47:19pm

Aw hell, I might as well contribute to darthstar’s jam band thread hijack.

Umphrey’s McGee // 2000th Show // 11/08/14 (1 of 13)

322 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:49:05pm

Okay…stopping with the UM. Glad to contribute…Good night everyone.

323 darthstar  Jan 13, 2015 9:49:31pm

Great Bass,
Lesh Philling.
(one of my favorite Grateful Dead t-shirts from the day)

324 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 9:50:21pm

re: #249 A Cranky One

The CD-quality standard—which Young and HRA proponents say isn’t sufficient—wasn’t adopted randomly. It’s not a number plucked out of thin air. It’s based on sampling theory and the actual limits of human hearing. To the human ear, audio sampled above 44.1 kHz/16-bit is inaudibly different.

Having been an audiophile for a very long time, be warned that you’ve just opened a can of worms ;)

However, I’ve heard Neil discuss digital and he simply doesn’t have a clue how it works. Neil talked about how digital chopped up the sound, obviously not understanding that the final output is an analog signal which matches the original signal. He thinks (as do some audiophiles) that a higher sampling rate will result in a higher definition sound for consumer audio.

Bottom line as an engineer: a properly done digital to analog conversion using the CD standard provides a wide dynamic range with a frequency range better than most speakers can provide or people can hear. When you need very expensive speakers/headphones to actually hear any difference, is the difference in sound quality worth the cost?

After all, mp3 format actually reduces the signal quality but hasn’t suffered that I can tell ;)

It’s the warmth of vinyl v. the cold digital way of thinking.

Perhaps a holdover from when CDs were first released, and the record companies didn’t want (the expense) to remaster the LP recordings, but directly transfer them onto CDs.

I once asked an studio engineer why he was re-mixing the LP album sound mix onto a two track, (seemed like a lot of high end) and why it didn’t sound (to my ear) as good as the original mix did.

His response, “it will after mastering onto a LP.”

325 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 9:50:32pm

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

When I was a kid visiting my dad’s TV repair shop, I told him I could hear the whine of the flyback transformers in a TV set (they operate at close to 20 kHz, IIRC). He couldn’t.

In my 40s, I could hear up to 17 kHz, but my physics students could hear higher freqs. Now, I think I’d be lucky to hear above 14 kHz. I checked one time using an audio generator for Windows. No joy.

Once had a coworker who refused to go into certain offices because of the whine from the flybacks. Nobody else could hear anything. Guess that’s the silver lining to getting older.

326 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:51:18pm

This is what happens when you wander around youtube:

Metallica - Robert Trujillo threatens Kirk Hammett

327 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 13, 2015 9:53:03pm

Well, it was two whole weeks ago when I invited dragged some of the lizards into my nightmare. I have to say I appreciate the concern you guys expressed, even though I figured at the time it was wasted on the wrong person.
In that time despair has been sharing head space with some hope. It turns out a made the grades I needed (somehow) and was able to get the loans I needed to get through this last semester. This nursing school thing might actually come true! As each semester drew to a close, I wore down and melted down worse each time, in the belief that things were going to go kablooie in my face. But I fought with everything I had to make the grades. It was in the interim that I would run out of fight. But when I get through this semester, I graduate. For the first time, I allowed myself to imagine finishing my final final. That one will be with night school students, none of whom will have any idea what I went through.
But the dean will. I saw her last week to check if I made the grades and she showed me I did, and then told me she needed a medical clearance again. I tried to act surprised but she said she could see the belt buckle on my neck. I was busted. All I could do was correct her and say it was a luggage strap.
So I say thank you to the Lizard Kingdom for your concern and that while the worst is behind me, I’m not taking anything for granted and will keep seeing the doctor.

NIght all

328 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 10:02:51pm

re: #324 BeenHereAwhile

It’s the warmth of vinyl v. the cold digital way of thinking.

Perhaps a holdover from when CDs were first released, and the record companies didn’t want (the expense) to remaster the LP recordings, but directly transfer them onto CDs.

I once asked an studio engineer why he was re-mixing the LP album sound mix onto a two track, (seemed like a lot of high end) and why it didn’t sound (to my ear) as good as the original mix did.

His response, “it will after mastering onto a LP.”

<Facepalm> Yes, a lot of the early CD releases were wretched, for that and other reasons. Some folks seemed to like the effect and wanted to give their recordings that “CD sizzle”. Shudder.

329 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 10:15:36pm

re: #325 A Cranky One

Once had a coworker who refused to go into certain offices because of the whine from the flybacks. Nobody else could hear anything. Guess that’s the silver lining to getting older.

Some fluorescent lights can have a really irritating high frequency whine.

330 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2015 10:19:06pm

Shameless plug for a friend of mine. :)

Brittany Lee Moffitt - “Summerwind” Official Music Video

331 A Cranky One  Jan 13, 2015 10:22:47pm

re: #327 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Thanks for the update!

Absolutely continue treatment. And think about the difference between situational and clinical depression. Stress, emotional losses, etc. can cause situational depression; it’s a result of the situation. Clinical depression is an acute, chronic condition that persists despite the situation. And it is insidious, as you know from experience.

My point is that when you combine an untreated clinical depression with situational depression, the results aren’t nice. Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional so treat accordingly ;) Let’s just say, been there…

Something to think about before the medical clearance. Because the situational aspects causing depressing will go away with a little time, and you are being treated for the clinical aspects. And as the persistent condition improves, the ability to deal with situational stress will improve as well; the combination will be less toxic. And with time I think you’ll be fine.

Positive thoughts your way.

332 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 10:22:49pm

re: #323 darthstar

Great Bass,
Lesh Philling.
(one of my favorite Grateful Dead t-shirts from the day)

Philweiser, King of Bass.

333 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 13, 2015 10:32:55pm

I remember the first time I heard a CD in 1984 while stationed in Germany. The Pretenders first album - clear, clean, no hisses or noise not meant to be there. I loved it. It took a few years before I could afford a cd player but once I but I didn’t look back. I have no nostalgia or need for vinyl.

334 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 13, 2015 10:37:16pm

re: #332 teleskiguy

Philweiser, King of Bass.

Allman Brothers (released in 1972) cover of “One Way Out:”

The Allman Brothers Band - One Way Out

335 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 10:43:47pm

More than 700 spills were reported at oil and gas operations in Colorado last year, according to the latest data compiled from a state database by the Center for Western Priorities.

The spills that occurred on an average of two per day released more than a million gallons of oil and other chemicals, mainly in Weld County and in the Piceance Basin of Western Colorado.

The spills were most often caused by equipment failure or human error, the data showed. They occurred when tanker trucks tipped over, containment ponds leaked or overflowed or pipes were corroded. Some of the spills had happened years earlier but were not discovered until 2014.

336 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 10:50:12pm

re: #329 BeenHereAwhile

Some fluorescent lights can have a really irritating high frequency whine.

When their ballast starts going bad, some fluorescent fixtures get whiney, for much the same reason as a flyback transformer. They operate at high frequency AC.

As for me, I can handle the whine, but the flicker of a failing tube gives me a headache.

337 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 13, 2015 10:57:46pm

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

I remember the first time I heard a CD in 1984 while stationed in Germany. The Pretenders first album - clear, clean, no hisses or noise not meant to be there. I loved it. It took a few years before I could afford a cd player but once I but I didn’t look back. I have no nostalgia or need for vinyl.

The so-called “warmth” of a vinyl recording I suspect is purely subjective. Mass produced LPs were not made to the highest audio quality standards, especially the discs pressed near the end of the useful life of the master. Perhaps a carefully mastered direct-to-disc LP that was clean as a whistle and played on high-end equipment would sound better than a mass-produced CD, but really, few people are going spend the money for such an audio experience.

338 teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2015 11:08:08pm

G’nite.

339 Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2015 11:08:54pm

Oklahoma had 17 earthquakes over M2.5 today, the state appears to be cracking apart.

341 Kragar  Jan 13, 2015 11:21:23pm

re: #339 Single-handed sailor

Oklahoma had 17 earthquakes over M2.5 today, the state appears to be cracking apart.

Maybe its trying to get away from Texas?

342 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 3:43:42am

re: #340 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The Charlie Hebdo cartoons no one is showing you.

Another reminder of how nuance and degrees are lost in the shouting match that is modern political discourse.

One does not have to support the sometimes extreme views they publish in order to be disgusted at someone who tries to silence them by force.

343 freetoken  Jan 14, 2015 3:45:27am
344 Maggie's Pa  Jan 14, 2015 4:15:53am

-15 F At my house in upstate New York, snuggle weather, cmere! I don’t bite…much. I am thinking about building a hackentosh, anyone ever try it?

345 Weet  Jan 14, 2015 4:32:13am

Yep.

346 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 4:34:01am
347 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 4:36:13am

Look at this turd that was dropped in my Time Line:

348 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 4:36:37am
349 Dark_Falcon  Jan 14, 2015 4:41:13am

re: #330 GlutenFreeJesus

Shameless plug for a friend of mine. :)

[Embedded content]

Was that shot in Chicago?

350 Alyosha  Jan 14, 2015 4:43:44am

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this turd that was dropped in my Time Line:

[Embedded content]

Whoa. So their idea of government above the state level is merely electing anarchists who will chop away at any forms of Federal organization not related to defense? Senators, Congressmen and Justices all working like exterminators keeping the filth under control. I’m guessing though that their love of executive power will return when an R manages to lever open a window into the West Wing.

351 Dark_Falcon  Jan 14, 2015 4:45:16am

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

Was that shot in Chicago?

Never mind, I looked at the start of the video and it clearly was shot in and around Chicago. It gets a ‘like’ for that alone.

352 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 4:45:53am

re: #335 teleskiguy

There were more than 700 drilling-related spills reported in Colorado last year.

Requiring a further question: How good is the reporting process? Is it enforced, voluntary, draconian? Could make a difference of 1-70% percent of the real experience.

353 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 4:49:07am

re: #350 Alyosha

Whoa. So their idea of government above the state level is merely electing anarchists who will chop away at any forms of Federal organization not related to defense? Senators, Congressmen and Justices all working like exterminators keeping the filth under control. I’m guessing though that their love of executive power will return when an R manages to lever open a window into the West Wing.

No, they trust politicians who promise they will do things that would make congressmen/women superfluous. “Vote for me, because I will put myself out of a job!”

354 Alyosha  Jan 14, 2015 4:50:21am

re: #353 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

No, they trust politicians who promise they will do things that would make congressmen/women superfluous. “Vote for me, because I will put myself out of a job!”

Moochers…

355 CleverToad  Jan 14, 2015 4:57:12am

re: #353 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

One of many variations on this theme: ‘When you elect people who don’t believe that government works, you get government that doesn’t work.’

Cause and effect, you can’t explain that.

356 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 4:59:14am

re: #355 CleverToad

“Government isn’t the solution, government is the problem.”

—some Governor.

357 Dark_Falcon  Jan 14, 2015 5:12:19am

re: #355 CleverToad

One of many variations on this theme: ‘When you elect people who don’t believe that government works, you get government that doesn’t work.’

Cause and effect, you can’t explain that.

The question is not “Does government work?”, the question is “What can government do effectively?”

358 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 5:17:17am

When right-wingers say “We want small government!” what they really mean is “We want government without blahs or women!”

359 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 5:18:34am

Morning Lizards

360 Dark_Falcon  Jan 14, 2015 5:19:02am

re: #358 The Vicious Babushka

When right-wingers say “We want small government!” what they really mean is “We want government without blahs or women!”

Then why are two of the GOP freshman senators women?

361 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 5:24:05am

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

Then why are two of the GOP freshman senators women?

They haven’t yet succeeded in their goal of “smaller government” so they need covers HURR HURR THIS PROVES WERE NOT TEH RACIST & TEH SEXIST, TEH DE4MOCRATS IS TEH RACIST & TEH SEXISTS1!!!1!!!!!!

362 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:27:07am
363 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:27:40am

Good morning everyone.

364 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:28:29am
365 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:29:03am

362 and 364 are related apparently

366 Alyosha  Jan 14, 2015 5:29:34am

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

The question is not “Does government work?”, the question is “What can government do effectively?”

Except that the Ted Cruzes of the world undercut R&D by denying science, stand athwart the rollout of very basic human rights at every turn, try and dismantle the social safety net piece by piece and govern so costively their legislation will only come out in hard, smelly, painful little lumps.

367 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:30:00am
368 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 5:31:53am
369 Alyosha  Jan 14, 2015 5:32:58am

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

Then why are two of the GOP freshman senators women?

None of the guys had a crazy enough agenda?

370 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 5:34:19am

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

Then why are two of the GOP freshman senators women?

Why aren’t 25?

371 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 5:37:34am

So are these the same staff people that Mitt is trying to woo back for one more run?

Mitt Romney Campaign Aides Had Credit Cards Canceled Late On Election Night

huffingtonpost.com

372 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 5:49:27am

re: #370 Decatur Deb

Why aren’t 25?

C’mon, DF. I lobbed you a soft one, and now you’re making me feel guilty.

373 Maggie's Pa  Jan 14, 2015 5:50:12am

re: #370 Decatur Deb

Maybe the next election cycle the Republicans will have 25 female freshman Senators

374 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 5:50:43am

Some amusement starring Stephen Colbert.
Phil Ken Sebben “Ha Ha Ha” supercut

375 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 5:51:31am

re: #366 Alyosha

Except that the Ted Cruzes of the world undercut R&D by denying science, stand athwart the rollout of very basic human rights at every turn, try and dismantle the social safety net piece by piece and govern so costively their legislation will only come out in hard, smelly, painful little lumps.

Precisely and they have never met a budget slashing they haven’t liked. I see conservatives say “You don’t throw money to solve a problem” and I actually would agree with that but the thing is thees guys always support budget slashing for programs and they never have the same tune when it comes to the defense budget which is much more bloated than so called entitlements ever was.

376 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 5:52:40am

re: #371 b.d.

So are these the same staff people that Mitt is trying to woo back for one more run?

huffingtonpost.com

Man I remember that. What a dick move by a dick of a guy.

377 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 5:53:54am
“How does he define what he is trying to do besides the fact he just wants to be president?” asked Jim Dyke, a South Carolina-based Republican strategist, who is uncommitted. “You can say what you will about Jeb, but at least he can effectively communicate about policies that are going to have a material impact on people’s lives. Romney has proven he’s incapable of that.”

Feel the Mittmentum.

378 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 5:55:25am

re: #377 darthstar

Feel the Mittmentum.

Translation: Jeb is better at selling bullshit than Mitt is.

379 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 5:55:34am

re: #377 darthstar

Feel the Mittmentum.

Ouch but hard to argue that.

380 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 5:59:29am

re: #373 Maggie’s Pa

Maybe the next election cycle the Republicans will have 25 female freshman Senators

Could happen, if we’re hit by a flu that consumes geriatric assholes.

381 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:02:19am

Not a good way to start the day:

NASA: Space station crew safe after evacuation

usatoday.com

382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:04:19am

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

Then why are two of the GOP freshman senators women?

Why is the only comittee chairwoman the head of the Housekeeping Committee?

383 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:06:17am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is the only comittee chairwoman the head of the Housekeeping Committee?

Nostalgia.

384 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 6:06:39am

re: #381 Decatur Deb

Not a good way to start the day:

NASA: Space station crew safe after evacuation

usatoday.com

Oh, shit…everybody outside.
Okay, now what?

385 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:08:12am

re: #384 darthstar

Oh, shit…everybody outside.
Okay, now what?

You grab a fire extinguisher and jet over to the Chinese reentry vehicle.

386 Sionainn  Jan 14, 2015 6:10:20am

re: #368 Dr. Matt

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Maybe because Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers don’t wear blue. They wear tan. ???

387 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 14, 2015 6:10:59am

The conservative case for regulation:

Regulation forces the full costs of the goods and service being produced are borne by the producer and paid for by the consumer, rather than being passed off on future generations of consumers.

388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 6:11:15am

re:
#377

Tax Cuts Today, Tax Cuts Tomorrow, Tax Cuts Yesterday, Tax Cuts Forever!!!!!!111

389 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 6:12:04am

re: #377 darthstar

Feel the Mittmentum.

Mitt sees the writing on the wall: 1) he has an excellent chance of being the Clown Car nominee given the current crop of morons and idiots that plan to run, 2) the right feels Hillary is un-electable since she’s a Clinton AND possesses a vagina, 3) the Ronny Raygun factor: It took St. Ronny several unsuccessful campaigns before he was elected Prez.

390 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 14, 2015 6:12:37am

re: #385 Decatur Deb

You grab a fire extinguisher and jet over to the Chinese reentry vehicle.

Center body mass so you don’t spin.

391 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 14, 2015 6:13:26am

re: #390 BeenHereAwhile

Center body mass so you don’t spin.

Shit, now you tell me!!

Youtube Video

392 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:13:59am

re: #390 BeenHereAwhile

Center body mass so you don’t spin.

“I fart in your general direction.”

393 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 6:14:06am
394 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:17:11am

re: #393 darthstar

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his place in life? What as Mitt’s golfing partner? Love the delusion from Team Romney. It starts at the top with the main guy who is basically a con artist.

395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:18:03am

re: #387 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The conservative case for regulation:

Regulation forces the full costs of the goods and service being produced are borne by the producer and paid for by the consumer, rather than being passed off on future generations of consumers.

The Market is supposed to perform several functions: to balance supply and demand, to regulate the flow of capital to where is the most useful and productive, and to assure that the prices for goods and services reflect their actual costs.

396 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:18:14am

re: #388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#377

Tax Cuts Today, Tax Cuts Tomorrow, Tax Cuts Yesterday, Tax Cuts Forever!!!!!!111

It’s fun to read that in George Wallace’s voice. But that pretty much is their entire economic policy and Sam Brownback has proven that it doesn’t fucking work but onward GOP soldiers!

397 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 6:19:18am

re: #393 darthstar

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“If you believe in your heart that this country is going to hell in a hand basket and is worse than ever, you owe it to your country to think about this,” one longtime Romney adviser said. “There’s a burden there to think this thing through carefully.”

In other words, Romney’s 2016 motto is going to be “See how stupid you were for not electing me?!”

Meanwhile, UE is under 6%, we’ve had 60+ months of economic growth, the Dow is over 18K, and gas prices are in free fall. If you think that’s “going to hell in a hand basket,” then you’re fucking nuts.

398 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:19:19am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Market is supposed to perform several functions: to balance supply and demand, to regulate the flow of capital to where is the most useful and productive, and to assure that the prices for goods and services reflect their actual costs.

Except no one wants to calculate cradle-to-grave costs. (Looking at you, Yucca Mountain.)

399 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 14, 2015 6:20:14am

re: #392 Decatur Deb

“I fart in your general direction.”

Both in motion moving away from me.

400 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:21:24am

re: #399 BeenHereAwhile

Both in motion moving away from me.

You haven’t seen my devilishly clever suit venting.

401 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:21:28am

re: #397 Targetpractice

In other words, Romney’s 2016 motto is going to be “See how stupid you were for not electing me?!”

Meanwhile, UE is under 6%, we’ve had 60+ months of economic growth, the Dow is over 18K, and gas prices are in free fall. If you think that’s “going to hell in a hand basket,” then you’re fucking nuts.

I swear I seriously think he’ll run again in 2020 if he loses again. The guy just doesn’t get that he’s one of the least likable people to run for president in the TV era. Just retire Mitt. For all we know you could be a decent grandfather even if you’re a terrible political leader with no real sense of values.

402 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 6:21:53am

re: #397 Targetpractice

In other words, Romney’s 2016 motto is going to be “See how stupid you were for not electing me?!”

Meanwhile, UE is under 6%, we’ve had 60+ months of economic growth, the Dow is over 18K, and gas prices are in free fall. If you think that’s “going to hell in a hand basket,” then you’re fucking nuts.

403 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 14, 2015 6:22:29am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Market is supposed to perform several functions: to balance supply and demand, to regulate the flow of capital to where is the most useful and productive, and to assure that the prices for goods and services reflect their actual costs.

Two out of three ain’t bad, but the market has no mechanism to ensure that prices for goods and services reflect their true cost. Did you ever see a market clean up a toxic waste dump?

404 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 6:22:34am

re: #385 Decatur Deb

You grab a fire extinguisher and jet over to the Chinese reentry vehicle.

That’s one of the more annoying plot devices in Gravity. For it to work, both stations would need to be in the exact same orbit, traveling in the same direction. This, AFAIK, never happens.

I know it’s “just a movie,” and I enjoyed watching it, but the physics teacher in me wants to send a strongly worded letter to the filmmakers.

405 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 6:23:30am
406 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 6:23:39am

re: #404 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

That’s one of the more annoying plot devices in Gravity. For it to work, both stations would need to be in the exact same orbit, traveling in the same direction. This, AFAIK, never happens.

I know it’s “just a movie,” and I enjoyed watching it, but the physics teacher in me wants to send a strongly worded letter to the filmmakers.

It’s a very lame movie unless you watch it in IMAX 3D.

407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:23:56am

re: #393 darthstar

Romney aide says #IfRomneyWasPresident “There wouldn’t be an ISIS at all, and Putin would know his place in life”

And the Middle East and Eastern Ukraine would be glowing radioactive wastelands…

408 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:24:05am

re: #405 darthstar

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They’re too busy defending the other Steve that’s friends with David Duke.

409 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 14, 2015 6:24:52am

re: #400 Decatur Deb

You haven’t seen my devilishly clever suit venting.

Trying to figure out how Walt Disney would present this in Tomorrow Land.

410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:25:38am

re: #403 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Two out of three ain’t bad, but the market has no mechanism to ensure that prices for goods and services reflect their true cost. Did you ever see a market clean up a toxic waste dump?

Regulation is supposed to be part of the mechanism. And yes, the lack of regulation is a de facto subsidy of nuclear energy. So is the insurance liability cap.

411 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 6:27:32am

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a very lame movie unless you watch it in IMAX 3D.

We need to wait for a Hollywood presence in orbit to see realistic zero-g effects. It’s going to take a whole new class of stunt men and women to learn the techniques necessary to survive.

Or everything will be CGI, and the CG artists will simulate local conditions.

412 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 6:27:46am

re:
#397

Meanwhile, UE is under 6%, we’ve had 60+ months of economic growth, the Dow is over 18K, and gas prices are in free fall. If you think that’s “going to hell in a hand basket,” then you’re fucking nuts.

Yeah but ObamaTyranny, uh, Food Stamps, uh, something, that other thing Obama did, etc.

//

413 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 6:28:04am

re: #364 darthstar

The Christie speech seemingly ticked off more locations outside New Jersey than those located inside.

As I traveled the country over the last year, this anxiety was the most palpable emotion I saw and felt.

I saw it on the streets of Chicago and felt it in the suburbs of Maryland.

I heard it from farmers in Kansas and from teachers in Colorado.

I felt it from veterans in Maine and from workers in Arkansas.

But the wisest words came from an 82 year old woman in Florida.

She grabbed my hand and asked me a simple, but powerful question: “What’s happened to our country? We used to control events. Now events control us.”

Quoting a woman from Florida who seems to ignore that events controlled the US (Cuban Missile Crisis anyone??? OPEC oil crisis of 1970s?! Recessions? Depression?) But ticking off all those states is his way of saying he’s running for President. And most New Jerseyeans would be happy to see him spend more time out of the state.

Crowing about having balanced budgets for x years in a row doesn’t mean anything when state law requires a balanced budget; what Christie did was cobble together budgets that had unreasonable revenue projections and when shortfalls occurred he went back on promise to pay in to the pension funds and limited the state contribution (which to be fair, was the largest contributions the state had made in years b/c governors on both sides of the aisle had raided the pensions to balance budgets to avoid raising taxes/fees or cutting spending elsewhere).

Also unmentioned was fact that on his watch, South Jersey’s economy imploded particularly the result of 4 of 12 casinos in Atlantic City closed up, and a 5th is on the verge of doing so. Yet, he and other NJ politicians think a casino in Northern NJ will be a salvation.

It wont, though sports betting might have a better chance (though federal and state law works against that too).

414 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:28:13am

re: #409 BeenHereAwhile

Trying to figure out how Walt Disney would present this in Tomorrow Land.

Non-Disney minions are working on a solution.

Image: pTRUCA1-15129672_alternate1_enh-z6.jpg

415 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:29:20am

If Romney was president, Obamacare would have its proper name, Romneycare.//

416 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 14, 2015 6:29:34am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Regulation is supposed to be part of the mechanism. And yes, the lack of regulation is a de facto subsidy of nuclear energy. So is the insurance liability cap.

OMG don’t get me started about liability caps. Could you imagine how many more Ford Pintos there would be if liability was truly capped?

417 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 6:30:43am
418 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:31:23am

re: #416 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

OMG don’t get me started about liability caps. Could you imagine how many more Ford Pintos there would be if liability was truly capped?

I am talking about one in particular: liability for nuclear plants, currently capped at $500 million…considering that Chernobyl cost an estimated $20 billion back in 1986…

If energy companies really had to pay for that kind of coverage, it would be cheaper for them to just hire nuclear engineers to power bicycle generators.

419 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:32:02am

re: #411 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

We need to wait for a Hollywood presence in orbit to see realistic zero-g effects. It’s going to take a whole new class of stunt men and women to learn the techniques necessary to survive.

Or everything will be CGI, and the CG artists will simulate local conditions.

Or you go the documentary route:

spiritofapollo.tumblr.com

420 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:32:17am

I really would have loved to seen what kind of shitty cabinet Romney would have had after seeing that he surrounded himself with guys like Bolton and Kris Kobach for his advisers. Probably would have made Mr. Monopoly the Treasury secretary. He was a friend of Mitt’s father.

421 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 6:33:56am

re: #413 lawhawk

Big Chicken’s pretty much SOL when it comes to the GOP nomination this time around. Between Willard and Jeb, there’s no chance that he’s going to be able to cobble together enough of a donor support network to make a decent showing. And any hope he might have had of winning over the crazies is going to evaporate the moment they remember those post-Sandy photos of him being friendly to the Kenyan Muslim Usurper.

Man might as well save his money and what’s left of his dignity for 2020, when the TP fever dream might have begun to finally break.

422 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 6:34:26am

re: #417 Dr. Matt

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And UE would be lower than it was in 2009! Oh wait…

423 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:34:28am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

I really would have loved to seen what kind of shitty cabinet Romney would have had after seeing that he surrounded himself with guys like Bolton and Kris Kobach for his advisers. Probably would have made Mr. Monopoly the Treasury secretary. He was a friend of Mitt’s father.

Treasury would be full of Goldman-Sachs sabbaticals. Oh,…

424 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 6:36:42am

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

The question is not “Does government work?”, the question is “What can government do effectively?”

Quite a bit actually if history is any guide. But that’s not what the modern ‘conservative’ believes.

To them the difference between our government and Stalin’s is only cosmetic, and enough of them vote to get representatives into Congress and Parliament.

425 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 14, 2015 6:37:21am

re: #414 Decatur Deb

Non-Disney minions are working on a solution.

Image: pTRUCA1-15129672_alternate1_enh-z6.jpg

That’s it!

Wernher von Braun and a Fart Blaster.

426 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 6:37:59am

re: #421 Targetpractice

Don’t think he’s SOL though; he’s got lots of name recognition and has been working up donors in NYC metro and on GOTV in early primary states (always a good idea to get jump on competition). Problem is, that he might not even win NJ in the primaries.

427 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 6:38:56am
428 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 6:39:04am

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Or you go the documentary route:

spiritofapollo.tumblr.com

Cool.

429 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:39:08am

re: #426 lawhawk

Don’t think he’s SOL though; he’s got lots of name recognition and has been working up donors in NYC metro and on GOTV in early primary states (always a good idea to get jump on competition). Problem is, that he might not even win NJ in the primaries.

He would have a fair-to-middlin’ chance in the general but he will never win the nominations

430 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 6:39:43am

“Worse than ever”. What a fucking drama queen.

431 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:39:44am

re: #429 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He would have a fair-to-middlin’ chance in the general but he will never win the nominations

Sounds like Rudy.

432 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 6:39:54am

re: #388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#377

Tax Cuts Today, Tax Cuts Tomorrow, Tax Cuts Yesterday, Tax Cuts Forever!!!!!!111

So then, who’s going to pay for all this stuff? (looking at all the Pentagon’s toys)

433 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:41:11am

re: #425 BeenHereAwhile

That’s it!

Wernher von Braun and a Fart Blaster.

G-kid got an Estes rocket and a Fart Blaster for Christmas. Will suggest he name the gun “Newton”.

434 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:41:56am

re: #430 Dr. Matt

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“Worse than ever”. What a fucking drama queen.

Well it is worse than ever for Mitt because each year that goes by in Obama’s presidency is a reminder for him that he’ll never be president. The rest of us who aren’t him or Ann or their jerk sons OTOH……….. Seriously though I see Mitt still has that “personal touch” that helped him so much in 2012. He really is a clueless man.

435 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 6:42:05am

re:
#413

As I traveled the state country over the last year, this anxiety was the most palpable emotion I saw and felt.

I saw it on the streets of NewarkChicago and felt it in the suburbs of TrentonMaryland.

I heard it from farmers in Salem CountyKansas and from teachers in Hoboken Colorado.

I felt it from veterans in Freehold Maine and from workers in Camden Arkansas.

But the wisest words came from an 82 year old woman in Vineland Florida.

Yes, a great state of the state address to the state of NJ.

Fortunately I have discovered (from “my man” in the governor’s office) the original draft.

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436 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 6:42:09am

re: #426 lawhawk

Don’t think he’s SOL though; he’s got lots of name recognition and has been working up donors in NYC metro and on GOTV in early primary states (always a good idea to get jump on competition). Problem is, that he might not even win NJ in the primaries.

He’s got name recognition, but it’s not very good recognition. When most people know you as the governor who likes to act like an asshole and yell at those that displease him, including teachers, then you’re already working with a deficit. He’s got very few positives to run on, and most of the crazies in the GOP pack can beat him in the negatives.

437 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 6:42:30am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Market is supposed to perform several functions: to balance supply and demand, to regulate the flow of capital to where is the most useful and productive, and to assure that the prices for goods and services reflect their actual costs.

How’s that working out for us? semi/

438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 6:44:24am

re: #437 Romantic Heretic

How’s that working out for us? semi/

Because our Free Market is not a mechanism, it is an Ideology and a Way of Life, a Divine Natural State of Bering created by the Trickle-Down Father, the Supply-Side Son and the Holy Spirit of Unrestricted Free Enterprise.

439 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 6:44:32am

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Or you go the documentary route:

spiritofapollo.tumblr.com

From page 4:

NASA Budget as Percentage of Federal Budget:

1966 - 4.41%

1972 - 1.48%

1976 - 0.99%

1982 - 0.83%

1986 - 0.75%

1992 - 1.01%

1996 - 0.89%

2002 - 0.72%

2006 - 0.57%

2012 - 0.48%

440 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 6:46:13am
441 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:48:26am

re: #440 Dr. Matt

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Looks about right.

442 Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2015 6:48:37am

re: #440 Dr. Matt

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Shouldn’t Carson be Tea Party and Christian Conservative?

443 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 14, 2015 6:49:28am

re: #433 Decatur Deb

G-kid got an Estes rocket and a Fart Blaster for Christmas. Will suggest he name the gun “Newton”.

Sent my SNL a photo of the Fart Blaster before Christmas.

His response, “we have two small children running around, no need for a 3rd source.”

444 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 6:50:42am

Drudge links to the worst pollster who is regularly accused of just making up numbers to prove that Mittens is leading in Iowa

gravismarketing.com

445 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 6:51:25am

re: #440 Dr. Matt

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Looks like a logo for the Fail Olympics

446 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:51:38am

re: #443 BeenHereAwhile

Sent my SNL a photo of the Fart Blaster before Christmas.

His response, “we have two small children running around, no need for a 3rd source.”

Seems to be the toy the 4 yr old enjoys most. Haven’t launched the rocket yet—weather holds.

447 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:51:46am

re: #444 b.d.

Drudge links to the worst pollster who is regularly accused of just making up numbers to prove that Mittens is leading in Iowa

gravismarketing.com

Mitt never even won Iowa when he was actually viable.

448 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 6:52:29am
449 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 6:52:49am

re: #444 b.d.

Drudge links to the worst pollster who is regularly accused of just making up numbers to prove that Mittens is leading in Iowa

gravismarketing.com

“Release the Unskewer!!”

450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 6:53:18am

re:
#440

Martinez?

451 Sionainn  Jan 14, 2015 6:53:30am

re: #440 Dr. Matt

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Carson needs to be in the Tea Party/Christian Conservative space since “God” is in almost every sentence he utters.

452 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 6:53:43am

slate.com

The Worst Poll in America

By David Weigel

There’s always one, and so far in 2014, Gravis Marketing is in the lead for the prestigious Strategic Vision Award for Botched Polling. In Texas, its final poll of Sen. John Cornyn’s primary gave him a weak 43-28 lead over Rep. Steve Stockman. This was 25 points off—Cornyn beat Stockman, one of the laziest campaigners in recent Texas memory, by a 59-19 margin.

453 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:54:24am

re: #448 Lidane

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Another right wing commentator that could be benefit from seeing a psychiatrist about the Obama underneath the bed. Seriously has always stood with the Islamists? Oh is that why he gave the order to kill Bin Laden and all the other high up Al Quedas. Yep that Obama is such an Islamist.

454 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:54:36am

re: #450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#440

Martinez?

Susana. Governor of New Mexico.

455 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 6:56:56am

re:
#454

Hmmm. OK. Didn’t see Rubio’s name either.

456 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 6:57:48am

re: #455 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#454

Hmmm. OK. Didn’t see Rubio’s name either.

Rubio is right near the TP/Establishment intersection.

457 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 6:58:51am

re: #453 HappyWarrior

Another right wing commentator that could be benefit from seeing a psychiatrist about the Obama underneath the bed. Seriously has always stood with the Islamists? Oh is that why he gave the order to kill Bin Laden and all the other high up Al Quedas. Yep that Obama is such an Islamist.

They are selectively cherry picking quotes from this speech so that the meaning is the exact opposite of what the President actually said.

458 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 6:59:29am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

Seems to be the toy the 4 yr old enjoys most. Haven’t launched the rocket yet—weather holds.

Make sure there are no boats downrange.

459 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 7:00:53am

re: #455 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#454

Hmmm. OK. Didn’t see Rubio’s name either.

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Rubio is right near the TP/Establishment intersection.

Cruz should be graphed much closer to the religious camp. Daddy C is a rabid nutcase circuit preacher.

460 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:01:28am

re: #457 The Vicious Babushka

They are selectively cherry picking quotes from this speech so that the meaning is the exact opposite of what the President actually said.

Wouldn’t be the first or last time. Sigh. Really. It’s beyond fucked up to think that the President is an Islamist but then again, these are professional victims who need to see Obama as the personification of evil to justify their fucked up cause.

461 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:02:03am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Cruz should be graphed much closer to the religious camp. Daddy C is a rabid nutcase circuit preacher.

Definitely would agree with that.

462 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 7:02:55am

re: #458 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Make sure there are no boats downrange.

Built him a launch controller with safe-arm switch and a lanyarded Permissive Action Link—an inch of copper pipe that goes downrange with the RSO.

463 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 7:03:29am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t be the first or last time. Sigh. Really. It’s beyond fucked up to think that the President is an Islamist but then again, these are professional victims who need to see Obama as the personification of evil to justify their fucked up cause.

It is clear why he had to have Bin Laden killed: he had made a deal to hand the country over to OBL after his first term, and then reneged on the deal because he grew too power-hungry…

464 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:03:59am

Ready! Fire! Aim!

465 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:04:24am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is clear why he had to have Bin Laden killed: he had made a deal to hand the country over to OBL after his first term, and then reneged on the deal because he grew too power-hungry…

Obviously,..

466 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:04:51am

re: #464 Lidane

Ready! Fire! Aim!

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Can you join them Bill?

467 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:06:40am

re: #417 Dr. Matt

I just read the Boston Globe article. My head hurts now from the themes Romney wants to run on.

America made a mistake electing a guy who’s overseen the stock market’s an all time high; unemployment is dropping; more people can get to the doctor; and gas is nearing a 7 year low?

I’ll give Mittens this, though: as I’ve said before, Americans are just stupid enough to elect despite everything I’ve outlined above. They did with it W, they can do it again.

As for running on anti-poverty? My God, it reads like the plot of a story satirizing the rich. The only thing even remotely close that Romney has done to help the poor is MA’s mandated health insurance, AKA Romenycare, and he ran from that as fast as he could in 2012.

I’m already getting an ulcer from the 2016 election.

468 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:08:25am

re: #467 Mattand

I just read the Boston Globe article. My head hurts now from the themes Romney wants to run on.

America made a mistake electing a guy whose been in charge now that the stock market’s at an all time high, unemployment is dropping, more people can get to the doctor, and gas is nearing a 7 year low.

I’ll give Mittens this, though: as I’ve said before, Americans are just stupid enough to elect despite everything I’ve outlined above. They did with W, they can do it again.

As for running on anti-poverty? My God, it reads like the plot of a story satirizing the rich. The only thing even remotely close that Romney has done to help the poor is MA’s mandated health insurance, AKA Romenycare, and he ran from that as fast as he could in 2012.

I’m already getting an ulcer of the 2016 election.

Yeah it’s funny seeing Mitt act like he cares about the poor after the 47% comment that showed his true colors. But yeah after Bush got elected twice, nothing would shock me but the saving grace for us fortunately is Romney’s fellow right wingers can’t stand him either which is different than Bush.

469 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 7:12:33am
470 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:13:30am

re: #469 lawhawk

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One of them even campaigned for Mitt Romney, his name is Ted Nugent.

471 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:14:44am

Sure. If you’re part of the Daily Show writing staff.

472 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 7:15:45am

Far away, a dim murmur, quiet yet insistent, can be heard…

rom… ney… rom… ney… rom… ney…

Inexorably the volume builds. Over and over, the words crash like metallic waves on some alien shore!

ROM! NEY! ROM! NEY! ROM! NEY!

ACCEPT YOUR INEVITABLE DESTINY, EARTH!!!

Shoot me now.

473 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:15:54am

re: #471 Lidane

Sure. If you’re part of the Daily Show writing staff.

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Yep a political satirist’s dream with these guys.

474 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 7:18:22am

re: #471 Lidane

Sure. If you’re part of the Daily Show writing staff.

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To the wingnuts, the number of names being tossed around would seem to show the “strength” of the GOP’s stable, that they’ve got such a wide field to choose from. But to any sane observer, what it shows is that the GOP is going into a primary season for the first time in a long while without a strong candidate. It’s winner-take-all and that means it’s going to be a blood bath.

475 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:20:34am

re: #468 HappyWarrior

I think this whole Romney resurgence is hilarious. Did the Romney campaign just ignore the Anybody But Mitt sweepstakes in the GOP in 2012? There is a large segment of the voter base for the Republican party that hates him on principle. And the Republicans he *can* attract to vote for him aren’t enough to win.

Don Quixote eventually came out of his delusions. Mitt? Not so much.

476 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 7:20:49am

Hands up who’s excited to hear about Rand Paul’s pre-announcement of his intention to conduct a process to explore the potential for making an announcement of his plan to consider running for the presidency?

Or are you more gung-ho about the prospect of Ted Cruz forming a working group to consider whether the timing is right to publicly state his inclination to publish a timeline for his decision-making process over the SAME FUCKING DECISION.

?

477 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:22:12am

re: #475 Lidane

I think this whole Romney resurgence is hilarious. Did the Romney campaign just ignore the Anybody But Mitt sweepstakes in the GOP in 2012? There is a large segment of the voter base for the Republican party that hates him on principle. And the Republicans he *can* attract to vote for him aren’t enough to win.

Don Quixote eventually came out of his delusions. Mitt? Not so much.

That’s the same thing I am wondering myself. The guy didn’t exactly walk away with the nomination last time. I think he really sees the presidency as his birthright.

478 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 7:22:13am

“On Thursday, Rand Paul will announce…”

That has to be the most irritating development in 21st-century human society.

479 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 7:23:28am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

That’s the same thing I am wondering myself. The guy didn’t exactly walk away with the nomination last time. I think he really sees the presidency as his birthright.

Serious people. Rooms rich with the scent of leather-bound volumes, mahogany desks, and fine cognac and cigars. Discussions in hushed tones.

“Do it, Mitt. For the good of the country.”

480 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:24:32am

re: #479 iossarian

Serious people. Rooms rich with the scent of leather-bound volumes, mahogany desks, and fine cognac and cigars. Discussions in hushed tones.

“Do it, Mitt. For the good of the country.”

Yeah but aren’t those the same people who see Christie or Bush as their guy? I think this is all Mitt’s ego at this point.

481 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:26:11am

I’d almost feel bad for him but he’s such a patronizing jackass who really does as I said seem to view the presidency as his birthright and he’s such a bullshit artist even more than your usual politician. He actually thinks he’s going to run on poverty this time? Mitt, you’re the guy who called nearly half the country takers. I swear Mitt just find a healthy hobby that keeps you out of the public eye.

482 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 7:26:46am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

That’s the same thing I am wondering myself. The guy didn’t exactly walk away with the nomination last time. I think he really sees the presidency as his birthright.

To be honest, so does Hillary.

483 Sionainn  Jan 14, 2015 7:27:04am

re: #467 Mattand

I just read the Boston Globe article. My head hurts now from the themes Romney wants to run on.

America made a mistake electing a guy who’s overseen the stock market’s an all time high; unemployment is dropping; more people can get to the doctor; and gas is nearing a 7 year low?

I’ll give Mittens this, though: as I’ve said before, Americans are just stupid enough to elect despite everything I’ve outlined above. They did with it W, they can do it again.

As for running on anti-poverty? My God, it reads like the plot of a story satirizing the rich. The only thing even remotely close that Romney has done to help the poor is MA’s mandated health insurance, AKA Romenycare, and he ran from that as fast as he could in 2012.

I’m already getting an ulcer from the 2016 election.

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Romney lives in his own special world. This is the guy who was shocked, SHOCKED! that he didn’t win because all his own polls were telling him he had it in the bag.

484 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:28:28am

re: #482 The Vicious Babushka

To be honest, so does Hillary.

I agree and that’s honestly one reason why I am not too enthusiastic for her.

485 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:28:35am

re: #475 Lidane

I think this whole Romney resurgence is hilarious. Did the Romney campaign just ignore the Anybody But Mitt sweepstakes in the GOP in 2012? There is a large segment of the voter base for the Republican party that hates him on principle. And the Republicans he *can* attract to vote for him aren’t enough to win.

I’ll give Mittens this much: he’s smart enough to see what a shitshow the current crop of GOP hopefuls are.

I mean, for fuck’s sake, Christie is arguably the leader of the pack. Here’s a guy who is so petty and vindictive, he’s known for running a government that endangered an entire town by literally making said town impassable. Here’s a guy who proudly posts videos of himself screaming and threatening teachers, who dare to question him.

Look at the rest of the Clown Car Manifest: Ted Cruz. Rand Paul. Scott Walker. Jeb Bush. Shit, don’t be surprised to Rick Perry make an appearance, indictment and all.

Everyone of these guys plays up to the racist, bigoted, myopic loon base that powers the GOP these days. Why shouldn’t Mittens have a shot?

Don Quixote eventually came out of his delusions. Mitt? Not so much.

Real life LOL from me on that one.

486 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:29:02am

re: #482 The Vicious Babushka

To be honest, so does Hillary.

I will be extremely pissed off if 2016 goes the way of Bush v. Clinton. The first election I could vote in was 1992, and that was Bush v. Clinton.

487 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 7:29:52am

re: #478 iossarian

“On Thursday, Rand Paul will announce…”

That has to be the most irritating development in 21st-century human society.

Really, the story should read “On Thursday, Rand Paul will announce that he’s considering a bid if enough sugar daddy donors will commit to funding his campaign.” If he can’t pull together enough commitments, he’ll abstain this year just so he can run for reelection back home.

488 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 7:30:26am

re: #486 Lidane

I will be extremely pissed off if 2016 goes the way of Bush v. Clinton. The first election I could vote in was 1992, and that was Bush v. Clinton.

What was the last year a Bush or a Clinton was not on the ticket?

489 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 7:31:25am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

What was the last year a Bush or a Clinton was not on the ticket?

2012.

490 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:31:54am

re: #479 iossarian

Serious people. Rooms rich with the scent of leather-bound volumes, mahogany desks, and fine cognac and cigars. Discussions in hushed tones.

“Do it, Mitt. For the good of the country.”

He then gets up and slams a big red Staples “Easy” button sitting on his desk.

491 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:32:14am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

What was the last year a Bush or a Clinton was not on the ticket?

2008.

492 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:32:17am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

What was the last year a Bush or a Clinton was not on the ticket?

2012/2008 but before then it was 1976 when I was a youthful negative 11 years of age.

493 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:34:00am

re: #486 Lidane

I will be extremely pissed off if 2016 goes the way of Bush v. Clinton. The first election I could vote in was 1992, and that was Bush v. Clinton.

re: #486 Lidane

I will be extremely pissed off if 2016 goes the way of Bush v. Clinton. The first election I could vote in was 1992, and that was Bush v. Clinton.

This.

With the exception of 2009 to 2015, here has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House since 1988; 1980 if you count Senior’s stint as Veep.

We’re in a rut, kids.

494 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 7:34:25am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

2012/2008 but before then it was 1976 when I was a youthful negative 11 years of age.

And in 2008, H Clinton was the initial front-runner for the Democratic nomination.

495 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:34:53am

re: #494 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And in 2008, H Clinton was the initial front-runner for the Democratic nomination.

Yep exactly.

496 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 7:35:54am

re: #493 Mattand

This.

With the exception of 2009 to 2015, here has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House since 1988; 1980 if you count Seniors stint as Veep.

We’re in a rut, kids.

It’s not as bad as the UK. They’ve had the same Queen since 1952! I hear her family’s got the succession all sewed up.

/

497 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:36:47am

re: #493 Mattand

This.

With the exception of 2009 to 2015, here has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House since 1988; 1980 if you count Seniors stint as Veep.

We’re in a rut, kids.

It’s just getting old. Really, I think Hillary had her shot in 2008 and Obama beat her fair and square. And honestly I think the Democratic Party has some women like her own state’s Kirsten Gillibrand that are much better leaders going forward. Hillary just seems to me to be about her namebrand and that’s something honestly worries me. She really does come off like a Democratic version of Mitt.

498 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:37:14am

re: #496 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It’s not as bad as the UK. They’ve had the same Queen since 1952! I hear her family’s got the succession all sewed up.

/

Don’t blame me. I voted for Kodos.

499 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:37:25am

re: #496 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It’s not as bad as the UK. They’ve had the same Queen since 1952! I hear her family’s got the succession all sewed up.

/

They should have made Gordon Brown the Queen. The UK badly needed a male Scottish queen who was a member of the Labour party.

500 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:37:53am

Looks like Chuck Todd is doing his best Dick Morris impression:

501 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:38:00am

The other crazy fact is the GOP hasn’t won a presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

502 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 7:38:05am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

They should have made Gordon Brown the Queen. The UK badly needed a male Scottish queen who was a member of the Labour party.

As long as he is not Catholic…

503 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 14, 2015 7:38:49am

re: #502 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As long as he is not Catholic…

Sounds like an Eddie Izzard monologue in the making.

504 Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 14, 2015 7:39:07am

re: #257 teleskiguy

Late to the party as usual, but SERIOUS updinging for Ween. Always been one of my favorites!

505 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:39:48am

re: #503 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Sounds like an Eddie Izzard monologue in the making.

Hehe seriously you can’t inherit the throne if you’re a Catlick. Some guy who was Orange but not John changed all that.

506 Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2015 7:41:06am

re: #500 Lidane

Looks like Chuck Todd is doing his best Dick Morris impression:

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No Chuck, what it shows is that the GOP is going into a primary season for the first time in a long while without a front-runner. There is virtually nobody right now for whom is can be said the nomination is “theirs to lose.”

507 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:42:24am

re: #506 Targetpractice

No Chuck, what it shows is that the GOP is going into a primary season for the first time in a long while without a front-runner. There is virtually nobody right now for whom is can be said the nomination is “theirs to lose.”

Right. It’s got nothing to do with Hillary. It’s got a lot to do with the fact that as you said that this thing is wide open and there’s no “next in line” that will win this thing in a formality like there was with Mitt, McCain, Dole, and the others.

508 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 7:45:32am

re: #506 Targetpractice

No Chuck, what it shows is that the GOP is going into a primary season for the first time in a long while without a front-runner. There is virtually nobody right now for whom is can be said the nomination is “theirs to lose.”

And they are going into the primary with the conundrum that anybody who can win the GOP nomination will be unelectable in the general election.

509 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 7:48:25am

re: #508 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And they are going into the primary with the conundrum that anybody who can win the GOP nomination will be unelectable in the general election.

That’s a feature, not a bug,

510 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 7:48:43am

re: #500 Lidane

What it means is that the GOP field is wide open since there’s no one who truly engages the GOP base; and those that have a chance in the general elections are SOL for the primaries because they’re not sufficiently ideologically right wing enough for the fundamentalist base.

511 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:50:45am

re: #510 lawhawk

What it means is that the GOP field is wide open since there’s no one who truly engages the GOP base; and those that have a chance in the general elections are SOL for the primaries because they’re not sufficiently ideologically right wing enough for the fundamentalist base.

Pretty much. There really is no one I see in that bunch that I see both being able to excite the GOP base and win a GE. Guys like Christie or Bush could win a GE but they’ll never excite the base. Conversely Paul and Cruz would delight the base but would be fucked in a general election.

512 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:52:36am

I think we’ll go down the same path we always do though. The GOP will end up nominating an establishment type who will run away from some of his past reasonable stances i.e. Romney on health care and McCain on taxes and they’ll still be mistrusted by the base so they’ll be forced to choose a nutcase like Palin or Paul to be the running mate to appease the base. At this point, I think the Dems go with Hillary. No idea who she makes her running mate but if she’s smart, she should go with a minority or someone form out west rather than a Hillary loyalist.

513 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 7:54:09am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

…I think the Dems go with Hillary. No idea who she makes her running mate but if she’s smart, she should go with a minority or someone form out west rather than a Hillary loyalist.

Somebody without baggage, Hillary is packing enough.

514 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:54:55am

re: #513 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Somebody without baggage, Hillary is packing enough.

A little known Senator or Governor perhaps? But yeah she’s packing a ton of baggage.

515 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:57:05am

re: #501 HappyWarrior

The other crazy fact is the GOP hasn’t won a presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

Wow. Had to think about that one for a second!

516 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 7:58:03am

re: #500 Lidane

Looks like Chuck Todd is doing his best Dick Morris impression:

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Jesus Christ, I wish the Toddler would just come out and ask Ailes for the frigging job already.

517 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 7:59:05am

re: #515 Mattand

Wow. Had to think about that one for a second!

I know. Hard to believe isn’t it? But think about it. Ike had Nixon both times. Nixon himself twice. Reagan had HW both times and HW had one of his own. And then W’s two on his own.

518 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 8:02:29am

AQAP just claimed responsibility for the Charlie Hebdo attack. How long before CCJ claims he has “a guy” on the inside at AQAP and says its a lie?

519 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 8:02:53am

Sorry Lizards, but I can’t seem to gen up any excitement about potential Presidential candidates right now.. HRC hasn’t even committed to running and until the eventual ritual RWNJ blood letting commences, all this is nothing more than pure speculation and reading of the entrails/tea leaves.

Just my 2 cents worth.

520 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 8:05:33am

re: #519 Bubblehead II

Sorry Lizards, but I can’t seem to gen up any excitement about potential Presidential candidates right now.. HRC hasn’t even committed to running and until the eventual ritual RWNJ blood letting commences, all this is nothing more than pure speculation and reading of the entrails/tea leaves.

Just my 2 cents worth.

You are not excited over the Mittens?!

Unpossible!

521 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 8:07:27am

re: #520 b.d.

You are not excited over the Mittens?!

Unpossible!

At this point in time I’m not excited about anybody. Get back to me around mid-August or so.

522 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 8:10:05am

re: #493 Mattand

This.

With the exception of 2009 to 2015, here has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House since 1988; 1980 if you count Senior’s stint as Veep.

We’re in a rut, kids.

US politics is always in a rut. Certain political families tend to dominate presidential politics. Whether it was the Adams family to start our nation’s history, the Roosevelts, Nixon (who was on the ballot as VP or President and/or in the WH pretty much from 1952 through 1974, or Bush (I exclude Clinton until Hillary wins a nomination), there are some names that repeatedly come up. If Hillary runs and wins the nomination, that would add to the list of elections with political dynasties running for the WH.

523 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2015 8:11:03am

re: #501 HappyWarrior

The other crazy fact is the GOP hasn’t won a presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

And in 1928 it was Herbert fucking Hoover. And before that, Calvin Coolidge, who was so well-liked he chose not to run in 1928. And before that, Warren G. Harding, who should have been impeached, but wasn’t. Wish I was smart enough to suss out a pattern here….

524 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:11:45am

re: #521 Bubblehead II

At this point in time I’m not excited about anybody. Get back to me around mid-August or so.

That would be the Ames Straw Poll. GOP ratfucking will be well underway before that.

525 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:12:45am

Whoa, somebody who is always posting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH ORIGINAL KKK!!!!! just got a very loud wake up call.

526 BigPapa  Jan 14, 2015 8:12:50am

re: #500 Lidane

Huh? The number of GOP candidates shows there are no real frontrunner GOP candidates.

At least that’s what a rational person would say.

527 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:13:02am

re: #522 lawhawk

US politics is always in a rut. Certain political families tend to dominate presidential politics. Whether it was the Adams family to start our nation’s history, the Roosevelts, Nixon (who was on the ballot as VP or President and/or in the WH pretty much from 1952 through 1974, or Bush (I exclude Clinton until Hillary wins a nomination), there are some names that repeatedly come up. If Hillary runs and wins the nomination, that would add to the list of elections with political dynasties running for the WH.

And the murdered dynasty—the Kennedys.

528 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 8:13:57am

re: #525 The Vicious Babushka

If they kicked everyone out of the party who shared his opinions, they would be an insignificant minority party

529 BigPapa  Jan 14, 2015 8:16:17am

re: #528 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If they kicked everyone out of the party who shared his opinions, they would be an insignificant minority party

That’s the Libertarian party.

530 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2015 8:17:20am

And to continue, before Wilson, one-term Taft; before him, Teddy Roosevelt won because he was the incumbent, in office because the guy before him was assassinated. Seriously, if you only follow the Republican line, “Banana Republic” would be much too charitable a description.

531 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 8:17:21am

re: #397 Targetpractice

In other words, Romney’s 2016 motto is going to be “See how stupid you were for not electing me?!”

Meanwhile, UE is under 6%, we’ve had 60+ months of economic growth, the Dow is over 18K, and gas prices are in free fall. If you think that’s “going to hell in a hand basket,” then you’re fucking nuts.

The only ones worrying about going to hell in a handbasket are the energy companies who are suddenly watching their fracking plays and coal energy industries going up in a cloud of soot as oil prices drop to levels not seen in years, and for the coal industry dying a needed death especially as alt energy makes inroads and efficiencies reduce need for new power generating facilities to maintain the same energy production. Fracking has also opened up natural gas and meant lower prices there as well. But since oil prices are dropping, fracking new areas is going to go get put on hold because the economics of new wells doesn’t work out - especially in areas that don’t have infrastructure (pipelines, wells, etc.).

532 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 8:19:09am

re: #500 Lidane

Looks like Chuck Todd is doing his best Dick Morris impression:

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How about…the number of GOP candidates shows that they all suck?

533 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:19:27am

Smacked in the face with reality:

534 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 8:20:38am

re: #525 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa, somebody who is always posting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH ORIGINAL KKK!!!!! just got a very loud wake up call.

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I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that the white people this PD is defending are not MENSA candidates either.

535 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:21:04am

re: #533 The Vicious Babushka

Smacked in the face with reality:

Why are high-profile conservatives quoting from the RACIST publication, “The American Renaissance:?

New-to-her Word of the Day:

Syndrome.

536 BigPapa  Jan 14, 2015 8:28:58am

re: #533 The Vicious Babushka

Black Republicans make me GAZE

537 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 8:29:14am

[facepalm]

AQ claims that the Charlie Hebdo attacks were their idea. The proof? Their say so. No actionable and direct links as yet. So, they’re bitching that the president called it a lone wolf situation based on the information he had available at the time he made the statement.

The right wing is looking to call this another Benghazi with gotcha nonsense. Not naming the terror group moments after attack? BENGHAZI!

The debased right wing is debased.

538 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:31:33am

re: #537 lawhawk

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[facepalm]

AQ claims that the Charlie Hebdo attacks were their idea. The proof? Their say so. No actionable and direct links as yet. So, they’re bitching that the president called it a lone wolf situation based on the information he had available at the time he made the statement.

The right wing is looking to call this another Benghazi with gotcha nonsense. Not naming the terror group moments after attack? BENGHAZI!

The debased right wing is debased.

Did Obama even really call it “lone wolf”? Sounds uncharacteristically incautious.

539 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 8:31:34am

re: #533 The Vicious Babushka

Smacked in the face with reality:

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540 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 8:32:35am

re: #457 The Vicious Babushka

They are selectively cherry picking quotes from this speech so that the meaning is the exact opposite of what the President actually said.

You mean to tell me right wingers would resort to cherry picking quotes from an important piece of writing to fit their own narrative?

I refuse to believe it!

/

541 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 8:32:42am

re: #538 Decatur Deb

Did Obama even really call it “lone wolf”? Sounds uncharacteristically incautious.

He did not call for #deathtoallmuslims immediately after the attack.

542 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 8:35:16am

re: #538 Decatur Deb

Think it’s more of a reference to threat that Eric Holder indicates that lone wolves pose to countries - that lone wolves are far more difficult to detect than organized terror cells linked back to parent terror groups.

543 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:36:38am

re: #542 lawhawk

Think it’s more of a reference to threat that Eric Holder indicates that lone wolves pose to countries - that lone wolves are far more difficult to detect than organized terror cells linked back to parent terror groups.

So Kristol pulled another one out of his ass? Perhaps he’s trying to make straight the road for another Palin triumphal march.

544 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 8:37:54am

re:
#500

Chuck Todd: Number of GOP Candidates Shows Hillary’s Not Intimidating

Begging is never attractive, especially when one is begging to be hired by Faux News.

545 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:39:32am

re: #536 BigPapa

Black Republicans make me GAZE

I always wonder how many “Black Republican” Twitter accounts are actually white dudes.

546 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 8:39:35am

Here you go Mitt, I’ve taken the liberty of choosing an official campaign song for you.

Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye - Steam

547 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 8:40:05am

re: #545 The Vicious Babushka

I always wonder how many “Black Republican” Twitter accounts are actually white dudes.

With beer bellies?

548 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 8:40:19am

re:
#537

I really hate when Obama doesn’t call terrorist attacks, terrorist attacks, like when he specifically called the Paris terrorist attacks, terrorist attacks.

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549 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 8:40:42am
AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - A Texas prison bus carrying 15 people was hit by train on Wednesday, prison officials said, with local media saying at least four people were killed in the accident.

The bus with 12 inmates and three corrections officers was traveling from Abilene to El Paso when it left the roadway and landed on railroad tracks, the Texas Department of Criminal Justice said.

Texas prison bus with 15 aboard hit by train, fatalities reported

550 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 8:41:00am

re: #538 Decatur Deb

Did Obama even really call it “lone wolf”? Sounds uncharacteristically incautious.

Some guy we never heard of called it that, maybe.

From the article.

Although General Austin referred to the Paris attacks as ‘lone wolf’ events

551 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:41:02am

re: #545 The Vicious Babushka

I always wonder how many “Black Republican” Twitter accounts are actually white dudes.

You don’t believe that nice Russian ladies want to meet me, either. Cynic.

552 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 14, 2015 8:41:11am

re: #518 GlutenFreeJesus

AQAP just claimed responsibility for the Charlie Hebdo attack. How long before CCJ claims he has “a guy” on the inside at AQAP and says its a lie?

He hasn’t heard back from his bud Weiser down at the 7-11 yet to confirm it.
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553 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:43:16am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

You don’t believe that nice Russian ladies want to meet me, either. Cynic.

Nice Russian ladies want to meet me too. Maybe they want pie.

554 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:44:30am

re: #553 The Vicious Babushka

Nice Russian ladies want to meet me too. Maybe they want pie.

Or to sell you more matryushkas.

555 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 8:48:53am

re: #553 The Vicious Babushka

Nice Russian ladies want to meet me too. Maybe they want pie.

All I get are “Christians Singles want to Mingle”. (On the other hand, I know from a cross-Iowa bicycle ride, the Lutherans make the best pies.)

RBS

556 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:50:27am

re: #555 RealityBasedSteve

All I get are “Christians Singles want to Mingle”. (On the other hand, I know from a cross-Iowa bicycle ride, the Lutherans make the best pies.)

RBS

They put lard in their pies.

557 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:51:14am

re: #556 The Vicious Babushka

They put lard in their pies.

That’s just the Missouri Synod.

558 nearly-headless smith25  Jan 14, 2015 8:51:27am

Thanks to all those who offered suggestions and encouragement for my speech today. Working on a page to detail the event and reaction. Probably be later on tonight.

559 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 8:53:45am

Fucking tool Ben Shapiro is endorsing fucking douchebag racist lady-executioner Kevin Williamson. DIAF Ben & Kevin.

560 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 8:56:40am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

You don’t believe that nice Russian ladies want to meet me, either. Cynic.

So I got a Cyrillic keyboard and wanted to practice on it. I responded to some unsolicited mails, one in particular stood out: she did not ask for any money, but wanted to come visit me on her own nickel.

Even at that, I grew suspicious, she seemed unwilling to answer any direct personal questions.

So I googled “Russian Women Scam” and found a warning on a US State Dep’t website: so it seems the person in question books her flight, arranges to meet you at the airport…and then does not show up.

Then you get a mail saying that she is being held by immigration and naturalization, she needs to show that she has at least $2,000 in cash in order to enter the country…could you wire it to her, she will pay it right back…

and then…

well, you know the rest.

561 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 8:58:45am

re: #560 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So I got a Cyrillic keyboard and wanted to practice on it. I responded to some unsolicited mails, one in particular stood out: she did not ask for any money, but wanted to come visit me on her own nickel.

Even at that, I grew suspicious, she seemed unwilling to answer any direct personal questions.

So I googled “Russian Women Scam” and found a warning on a US State Dep’t website: so it seems the person in question books her flight, arranges to meet you at the airport…and then does not show up.

Then you get a mail saying that she is being held by immigration and naturalization, she needs to show that she has at least $2,000 in cash in order to enter the country…could you wire it to her, she will pay it right back…

and then…

…she made you an acrylic Cyrillic cynic.

562 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 8:59:16am

Good Bye Windows 3.1. You were something back in the day.

563 Teukka  Jan 14, 2015 8:59:49am

Just a question… I am following a couple of chat channels infested with RWNJ’s and suddenly, over the past 12 to 24 hours, there has been a marked increase of overtly racist, genocidal and discriminatory comments.

Given that the pattern previously on the channel has been that such tends to increase right before an embarrasing revelation about the right happens, is there something about the Tea Party or the GOP on the horizon?

564 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 9:01:02am

re: #562 Bubblehead II

Good Bye Windows 3.1. You were something back in the day.

Did yours crash? Think I have a copy on a stack of 3.5s.

565 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 9:01:20am

re: #562 Bubblehead II

Good Bye Windows 3.1. You were something back in the day.

I remember with Win the windows 9x’s you could set the shell to be “Progman” rather than “Explorer” and it gave it the 3.1 interface on the desktop.

RBS

566 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 9:03:17am

WHAT COULD GO WRONG???

567 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 9:03:58am

re: #563 Teukka

Just a question… I am following a couple of chat channels infested with RWNJ’s and suddenly, over the past 12 to 24 hours, there has been a marked increase of overtly racist, genocidal and discriminatory comments.

Given that the pattern previously on the channel has been that such tends to increase right before an embarrasing revelation about the right happens, is there something about the Tea Party or the GOP on the horizon?

568 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 9:04:02am

re: #564 Decatur Deb

Did yours crash? Think I have a copy on a stack of 3.5s.

Cleaning out old software that has built up over the years. Just got done shredding about 50 51/4 disks. Now starting on the 31/2 disks. Anybody want a copy of Lemmings and Oh NO! More Lemming?

569 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 9:04:33am

re: #566 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT COULD GO WRONG???

French airline airfrance offers passengers copies of the new Charlie Hebdo

I assume that was not a flight bound for anywhere in the Middle East…

570 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 9:05:25am

re: #563 Teukka

Not that I know of, but MLK day is coming up.

571 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 9:06:49am

Ouch!

Glenn Greenwald Versus Charlie Hebdo: On the Wrong Side of Freedom

But dubious pride of place in this parade of free speech naysayers belongs to an ostensible champion of civil liberties: constitutional attorney and journalist Glenn Greenwald

Read more: realclearpolitics.com
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

A really good article, some choice parts.

Along the way, Greenwald casually smears Charlie Hebdo as racist (misrepresenting a much-maligned cover depicting Boko Haram sex slaves as welfare queens, which actually mocked immigrant-bashing far-right politicians). He also pooh-poohs claims that the magazine was an equal-opportunity offender

My favorite part is where they call Glenn out for being a Putin ass kissing stooge:

Vladimir Putin’s Russia, where three young women from the Pussy Riot punk activist group were jailed in 2012 for a protest performance in a church. What’s more, in recent years, violence by Russian Orthodox vigilantes—from vandalism of “blasphemous” art to beatings of gays and assaults on Pussy Riot supporters—has been occurring with disturbing frequency and impunity.
//
But this goes unmentioned by Greenwald, who in the past has whitewashed the Kremlin’s suppression of dissent in the Russian media. Apparently, it’s strictly “see no evil” when it comes to anti-American movements or anti-American regimes.

Much, much more in that story.

572 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 9:09:40am
But this goes unmentioned by Greenwald, who in the past has whitewashed the Kremlin’s suppression of dissent in the Russian media. Apparently, it’s strictly “see no evil” when it comes to anti-American movements or anti-American regimes.

That and because Russia is the current location of Greenwald’s Golden boy.

573 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 9:10:36am

re:
#572

Mostly because of the latter, I suspect.

574 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 9:13:53am

re: #568 Bubblehead II

Cleaning out old software that has built up over the years. Just got done shredding about 50 51/4 disks. Now starting on the 31/2 disks. Anybody want a copy of Lemmings and Oh NO! More Lemming?

I LOVED Lemmings. Wasted more hours on that stupid game than I care to admit.

RBS

575 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 9:26:22am

Greenwald used to call all newspapers to republish the Danish cartoons, because free speech. Suddenly…

576 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 9:26:36am

Windows NT 4.0 Server Never used, but still aquired. Why?

577 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 9:31:43am

re: #575 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Greenwald used to call all newspapers to republish the Danish cartoons, because free speech. Suddenly…

IN HONOR OF #JESUISCHARLIE WE WILL POST EVERY CARLOS LATUFF CARTOON WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON!!!!!!!!!!

578 Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2015 9:33:41am

re: #574 RealityBasedSteve

I LOVED Lemmings. Wasted more hours on that stupid game than I care to admit.

RBS

You mentioned lemmings.

My mind visualized them, and then in an instant, I also visualized hamsters.

Then I thought of Hamster Dance.

Now I have that music in my head.

Curse you!!!!

*shakes fist*

579 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 9:33:47am

A little context, just for the hell of it.

580 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 9:33:55am

re: #577 The Vicious Babushka

And every other antisemitic cartoon too.

581 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 9:34:58am

re: #579 CuriousLurker

Dreyfus.

582 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 9:36:42am

re: #581 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Dreyfus.

Yes, as VB reminded me also, Dreyfus:

583 Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2015 9:39:43am

re: #579 CuriousLurker

There’s a good book I read, Verdict On Vichy, about the period of the collaborationist Vichy Regime, that goes into the subject of French anti-Semitism and its long and ugly history; it helps the reader understand that the Vichy Regime’s actions against French Jews weren’t just some spontaneous 20th Century outburst of anti-Semitism, but that such toxic ideas had long been simmering under the surface.

Sad to read.

584 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 9:39:58am

re: #579 CuriousLurker

A little context, just for the hell of it.

Also: The Napoleanic Sanhedrin, which was an attempt to redefine Judaism as a condition of receiving citizenship in the “Nouvelle” France.

585 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 9:41:43am

re: #583 Dr Lizardo

There’s a good book I read, Verdict On Vichy, about the period of the collaborationist Vichy Regime, that goes into the subject of French anti-Semitism and its long and ugly history; it helps the reader understand that the Vichy Regime’s actions against French Jews weren’t just some spontaneous 20th Century outburst of anti-Semitism, but that such toxic ideas had long been simmering under the surface.

Sad to read.

I actually ordered the Kindle version of that book based on your prior recommendation, but I haven’t gotten around ti reading it yet—thanks for reminding me about it.

586 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 9:42:38am

re: #584 The Vicious Babushka

Also: The Napoleanic Sanhedrin, which was an attempt to redefine Judaism as a condition of receiving citizenship in the “Nouvelle” France.

I hadn’t heard of that one. Thanks.

587 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 9:43:07am

re: #578 Dr Lizardo

You mentioned lemmings.

My mind visualized them, and then in an instant, I also visualized hamsters.

Then I thought of Hamster Dance.

Now I have that music in my head.

Curse you!!!!

*shakes fist*

I am only responsible for first order disturbances. The fact that you went to Hamsters is a second order disturbance, and as a result, is totally your responsibility.

RBS

588 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 9:46:00am

Before I get back to work, someone please make sure ww sees this one. ;-)

589 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 9:47:30am

re: #588 CuriousLurker

Food!

/ducks

591 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 9:48:21am

re: #589 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Food!

/ducks

looks more like dogs than ducks…don’t get it…

593 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 9:58:05am

re: #591 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

looks more like dogs than ducks…don’t get it…

Peking dog… mmm… ;)

595 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:01:53am

SMOTI. Again.

Except that’s not what the Indonesian news report actually states according to the translation via Google Chrome.

“Listening to the black box recording an aircraft involved in an accident do not like listening to music or discussion,” he continued.

According to him, based on the experience of listening to recordings of conversations black box of some aircraft that crashed, the last words are often heard from the black box recording is Allahu Akhbar said. “The words that make me cringe,” he said.

Now, he admitted it is difficult to listen to the last words of the man who taught him to fly the plane. Nevertheless, he must complete the entire recording to hear the conversation.

“At last the conversation will be the key to uncovering the cause of the accident AirAsia . (From there) we can find out what really happened before the crash of the conversation pilot and co-pilot, “he said

The indication here is that they haven’t actually studied the black boxes, the latter of which (the data voice recorder) was just recovered (as of 01/13/2015). So they don’t know what was actually stated yet.

Divers in the Java Sea have retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from the crashed AirAsia flight QZ8501, say officials.

The retrieval comes a day after the first piece of the so-called black box, the flight data recorder, was also found and brought to shore.

The aircraft with 162 people on board disappeared between Surabaya in Indonesia and Singapore on 28 December.

The two devices will help investigators understand more about what went wrong.

Forty-eight bodies have been recovered so far, but most of the victims are believed to still be inside the fuselage.

SB Supriadi from Indonesia’s search and rescue agency told the BBC’s Indonesian service the fuselage had been located by divers about 1.5km (0.9 miles) from where the tail section was found last week.

Meanwhile, he’s citing to another Indonesian outlet claiming the same official stated the last words were Allahu Ackbar, but that outlet refers to a Daily Mail (the british rag) as their source. There’s no further source.

Digging deeper still, and it’s clear that Nurcahyo Utomo, the investigator, is indicating that often the last words are essentially to the effect of OH G-D! which in Islam is similar to Allahu Ackbar! (G-d is Greatest!) In other words, not necessarily terrorism, but rather the stark realization that they’re all about to die from events potentially beyond the pilots’ control.

Terrorism hasn’t been ruled out here to be sure - mainly because the debris hasn’t fully been recovered, let alone the black boxes. Having that information will help piece together the plane’s last minutes and what was going on board the plane at the time they were denied a routing/altitude change from flight controllers.

596 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 10:04:31am
OMG! Condoleeza Rice and Ayaan Hirsi Ali were shot and killed? Then yes, we definitely should march in opposition to that criminal outrage…oh. They were just turned away from speaking engagements? Sorry, that isn’t the same thing at all.

freethoughtblogs.com

597 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 10:05:51am

re:
#595

Asia plane downed by radical Muslim terrorists, here is file photo black box recording!!!!

598 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:07:05am

LiA manages to totally miss the fucking point.

599 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 10:07:12am

re:
#595

BREAKING: I’m waiting for my guy in AsiaAir to get back to me about the black box.

600 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 10:08:29am

re: #595 lawhawk

SMOTI. Again.

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Except that’s not what the Indonesian news report actually states according to the translation via Google Chrome.

The indication here is that they haven’t actually studied the black boxes, the latter of which (the data voice recorder) was just recovered (as of 01/13/2015). So they don’t know what was actually stated yet.

Meanwhile, he’s citing to another Indonesian outlet claiming the same official stated the last words were Allahu Ackbar, but that outlet refers to a Daily Mail (the british rag) as their source. There’s no further source.

Digging deeper still, and it’s clear that Nurcahyo Utomo, the investigator, is indicating that often the last words are essentially to the effect of OH G-D! which in Islam is similar to Allahu Ackbar! (G-d is Greatest!) In other words, not necessarily terrorism, but rather the stark realization that they’re all about to die from events potentially beyond the pilots’ control.

Terrorism hasn’t been ruled out here to be sure - mainly because the debris hasn’t fully been recovered, let alone the black boxes. Having that information will help piece together the plane’s last minutes and what was going on board the plane at the time they were denied a routing/altitude change from flight controllers.

Do you think that somewhere there is a Muslim version of SMOTI that would be claiming/implying that the last words on a plane piloted by a Christian were “God have mercy!” was evidence of Christian terrorism?

601 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:08:36am

re: #593 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Peking dog… mmm… ;)

Korean Meat Dogs

I only know of the existence of Korean Meat Dogs because my wife went looking for breeds that resemble our dog, and it turns out that Scout matches the color and other characteristics of Meat Dogs.

(For the record - I’ve been known to get plenty hungry, but I doubt I would ever get that hungry.)

602 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:10:03am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY ON TWITTER:
And they spell her name wrong too

603 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:10:06am

re: #600 Mike Lamb

Considering that there are Charlie Hebdo false flag conspiracy makers out there, I’d say that there is a good possibility that some conspiracy nutter is doing exactly as you propose.

604 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 10:10:32am

BREAKING: CCJ is demanding the juvenile records of the black box.

605 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:10:37am

re: #590 Dr. Matt

‘Muslim-free’ Arkansas shooting range turns away brown-skinned [Asian] father-son duo

Someone notify Scalia …..

Excuse me but how the fuck can that be legal?

606 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:11:35am

re: #602 The Vicious Babushka

Is it sad I didn’t even recognize the name yet still knew EXACTLY what they were referring to?

607 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:11:56am

re: #605 Eclectic Cyborg

Excuse me but how the fuck can that be legal?

Weren’t the calibre of clientele they serve.

608 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 10:13:34am

A guy who is about to die in a plane crash’s last words are a plea to God?

No way!

609 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:14:34am

re: #608 b.d.

A guy who is about to die in a plane crash’s last words are a plea to God?

No way!

And that’s not necessarily what the last words of the pilots of the Air Asia flight actually said here. That’s just what the investigator said he’s often found when reviewing crash recorders.

610 Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2015 10:14:36am

re: #605 Eclectic Cyborg

Excuse me but how the fuck can that be legal?

It isn’t.

611 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:15:03am

re: #608 b.d.

A guy who is about to die in a plane crash’s last words are a plea to God?

No way!

I have it on credible professional authority the the most common recording recovered is “Oh Shit”.

612 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 10:16:24am

re: #611 Decatur Deb

I have it on credible professional authority the the most common recording recovered is “Oh Shit”.

Depends on the region.

In the South, “Hey Y’all! Watch this!” is a close second.

613 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 10:17:07am

re: #537 lawhawk

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[facepalm]

AQ claims that the Charlie Hebdo attacks were their idea. The proof? Their say so. No actionable and direct links as yet. So, they’re bitching that the president called it a lone wolf situation based on the information he had available at the time he made the statement.

The right wing is looking to call this another Benghazi with gotcha nonsense. Not naming the terror group moments after attack? BENGHAZI!

The debased right wing is debased.

Kristol is mad because all lone wolves are albino donchyaknow.

614 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:17:15am

re: #612 Kragar

Depends on the region.

In the South, “Hey Y’all! Watch this!” is a close second.

Believe it. My sample was only for the DoD universe.

615 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 10:17:18am

re: #605 Eclectic Cyborg

Excuse me but how the fuck can that be legal?

When Jefferson put “one nation under god” in the Constitution he meant that private property owners should be able to serve whoever they like.

Don’t tread on me etc.

616 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:17:49am

re: #610 Timothy Watson

It isn’t.

Well then I hope those Asian guys lawyer up and take the owner of this place to task for the bullshit.

617 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:17:53am

re: #607 Decatur Deb

Weren’t the calibre of clientele they serve.

And they certainly wanted to muzzle their rights.

618 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:18:29am

For all their worshipping of the constitution, some of them really don’t understand how it works.

619 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:18:45am

re: #617 makeitstop

And they certainly wanted to muzzle their rights.

Assistant manager probably went off half-cocked.

620 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 10:19:22am

re: #617 makeitstop

And they certainly wanted to muzzle their rights.

I don’t put much stock in that.

621 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:19:22am

re: #619 Decatur Deb

Assistant manager probably went off half-cocked.

What would trigger such behavior?

622 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:19:39am

re: #611 Decatur Deb

I have it on credible professional authority the the most common recording recovered is “Oh Shit”.

For Naval aviators it was “I got it….”

623 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 10:19:54am

re: #619 Decatur Deb

Assistant manager probably went off half-cocked.

Wow.

I bet you’re a barrel of laughs at parties.

624 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:20:02am

re: #621 makeitstop

What would trigger such behavior?

Owner’s face was a sight to behold.

625 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:20:37am

re: #624 Decatur Deb

Owner’s face was a sight to behold.

He should have tried to get a grip.

626 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:20:57am

re: #619 Decatur Deb

Assistant manager probably went off half-cocked.

He should get a grip on himself.

EDIT: Curse you, makeitstop!

627 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:21:23am

re: #626 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He should get a grip on himself.

20 seconds! :)

628 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 10:21:36am

re:
#624
#623
#621

I’m seeing what all of you are doing there.

629 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:22:01am

re: #627 makeitstop

20 seconds! :)

Sounds like a headspace and timing issue.

630 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:22:16am

re: #628 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#624
#623
#621

I’m seeing what all of you are doing there.

They have a lot of brass.

631 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:23:03am

re: #630 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They have a lot of brass.

…and ball.

632 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:23:32am

re: #623 iossarian

Just don’t get loaded.

633 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:23:34am

re: #631 Decatur Deb

…and ball.

Okay, this is starting to become a bore.

634 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:24:13am

re: #633 makeitstop

Okay, this is starting to become a bore.

We’ll take stock of your opinion.

635 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:24:22am

re: #633 makeitstop

Okay, this is starting to become a bore.

Someone should drop the hammer on the whole thing.

636 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 10:24:32am

The bad punning is progressing at a fair old clip today.

I suggest everyone stop hammering on at this point. Go read a magazine or something.

637 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:24:36am

re: #633 makeitstop

There oughtta be an ordnance against this sort of thing.

638 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:25:02am

re: #634 Decatur Deb

We’ll take stock of your opinion.

Okay, as long as I don’t become the butt of any jokes.

639 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:25:05am

re: #635 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Someone should drop the hammer on the whole thing.

That would be the counsel of safety.

640 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:25:05am

re: #636 iossarian

The bad punning is progressing at a fair old clip today.

I suggest everyone stop hammering on at this point. Go read a magazine or something.

I’d have to rifle through my belongings for one of those.

641 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:25:35am

re: #637 lawhawk

There oughtta be an ordnance against this sort of thing.

Bless you for spelling that right.

642 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:25:41am

re: #640 lawhawk

I’d have to rifle through my belongings for one of those.

You’re a real pistol!

/meta

643 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:27:13am

Yeah, why is it tougher to get through to the IRS during tax season. Well, the reason is simply - Congress cut IRS appropriations to do everything from audits to customer service, so they’re trying to do more with less. Your wait time will now be longer for refunds too - which actually benefits the government because they make money on the interest free loan they get by holding on to excess withholdings.

644 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 10:27:20am

I wish I could pin these puns down.

645 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:27:37am

I recoil in shame at the punnery going on.

646 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:28:12am

re: #641 Decatur Deb

Considering that I have to read ordinances on a regular basis, knowing the difference goes to the caliber of work done (and proper grammar/usage).

647 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:28:20am

re: #645 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I recoil in shame at the punnery going on.

We’re just starting to pad it now.

648 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:28:28am

re: #643 lawhawk

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Yeah, why is it tougher to get through to the IRS during tax season. Well, the reason is simply - Congress cut IRS appropriations to do everything from audits to customer service, so they’re trying to do more with less. Your wait time will now be longer for refunds too - which actually benefits the government because they make money on the interest free loan they get by holding on to excess withholdings.

The ‘starve the beast’ strategy in action.

649 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:29:15am

re: #643 lawhawk

The moves by congress also give the IRS less money, time and resources to investigate Tax fraud. Go figure.

650 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 10:29:27am

The one guy who lived in their recreations? The guy who took off running when he heard the first shot.

651 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:29:38am

re: #595 lawhawk

SMOTI. Again.

BREAKING: Last Words On AirAsia Flight #8501 Blackbox — “ALLAHU AKBAR!”

Because those words are only uttered by jihadis before they blow themselves up, right?

652 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:30:23am

re: #648 makeitstop

Yup, and the byproduct is actually people who need the refunds most (aka the poor, those living paycheck to paycheck) are those who are likely to get delayed refunds. So, the GOP claim that this is reducing costs and saving taxpayers ends up hurting taxpayers in the long run because the government holds on to their money longer than it otherwise should have to.

653 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 10:30:32am

Stop it before I go ballistic.

RBS

654 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:30:36am

Famous last words: “Hey, what does this button do?”

655 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 10:31:08am

re: #653 RealityBasedSteve

Stop it before I go ballistic.

RBS

Oh don’t get so shell shocked.

656 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:31:33am

re: #653 RealityBasedSteve

Stop it before I go ballistic.

RBS

I’m getting a real charge out of this thread.

657 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:31:55am

re: #647 Decatur Deb

We’re just starting to pad it now.

You guys could start a magazine with these jokes…

658 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:32:57am

re: #657 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You guys could start a magazine with these jokes…

We really send them along at a good clip.

659 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 10:34:42am

I was rifling through my old gun magazine to find some punworthy words but found nothing so I’m kind of on guard.

660 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:35:11am

re: #659 b_sharp

I was rifling through my old gun magazine to find some punworthy words but found nothing so I’m kind of on guard.

That’s it. Not another peep out of me.

661 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:37:04am

Had to stop, someone was sure to sling invective.

662 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 10:38:06am

re: #600 Mike Lamb

Do you think that somewhere there is a Muslim version of SMOTI that would be claiming/implying that the last words on a plane piloted by a Christian were “God have mercy!” was evidence of Christian terrorism?

THIS. Never mind that Indonesia is 88.1% Muslim (2010 census) and accounts for for approximately 13% of the world’s total Muslim population, it’s totally bizarre that anyone on their planes would say “Allahu Akbar”.

663 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:38:35am

re: #661 Decatur Deb

Had to stop, someone was sure to sling invective.

Good idea lest you be ejected.

664 iossarian  Jan 14, 2015 10:39:26am

re: #662 CuriousLurker

THIS. Never mind that Indonesia is 88.1% Muslim (2010 census) and accounts for for approximately 13% of the world’s total Muslim population, it’s totally bizarre that anyone on their planes would say “Allahu Akbar”.

Remember who we’re dealing with here - both the author and the intended readership.

If you say “Allah” you’re basically a terrorist in these people’s world view.

665 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:39:54am

re: #663 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Good idea lest you be ejected.

Sooner or later, you always meet a suppressor.

666 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:40:09am

re: #663 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Good idea lest you be ejected.

I shell abide by this decision.

667 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:40:35am

re: #665 Decatur Deb

Sooner or later, you always meet a suppressor.

I recoil at the very thought

668 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:41:11am

re: #667 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recoil at the very thought

Wad else can we do?

669 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:41:59am

This thing is turning into a primer on runaway threads.

670 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 10:42:44am

re: #669 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This thing is turning into a primer on runaway threads.

What triggered it in the first place?

RBS

671 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 10:42:46am

re: #351 Dark_Falcon

Yup. I could have been an extra too, but unfortunately I couldn’t make it. A combination of Chicago/Indiana. :)

672 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:42:49am

re: #669 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This thing is turning into a primer on runaway threads.

Sort of goes against the grain.

673 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:43:24am

re: #670 RealityBasedSteve

What triggered it in the first place?

RBS

Lizard with a short fuze.

674 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 10:44:32am

re: #669 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This thing is turning into a primer on runaway threads.

Where there’s center mass, there’s inertia.

675 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:45:03am

Ogive me a brake.

676 unproven innocence  Jan 14, 2015 10:45:47am

From the link,
Hoyt said he started to hear the devil’s voice from the speakers in his car and his radio at home after he was fired. The voices were telling him that Boehner was evil, Desrosiers said.

[tinfoil] While evidence strongly indicates Mr. Hoyt has serious mental illness issues, I should point out that many commercial radios are susceptible to a form of RF interference due to mediocre or poor IF rejection. AM uses 455KHz; FM uses 10.7MHz. Any nearby RF source with appropriate modulation could easily inject an extra audio channel. When an IF stage is overloaded, that audio could be badly distorted but still intelligible. The frequency that an affected radio is tuned to does not matter. Possibly Boehner has powerful enemies.[/tinfoil]

Hoyt is one of three people charged with threatening Boehner’s life in less than a year.

677 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:45:58am

Ted Cruz is a “Fair Taxer” My surprise, let me show you it.

678 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 10:46:51am

re: #675 Decatur Deb

Ogive me a break.

Okay, I give up. Can’t touch that one.

679 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:48:26am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

Ted Cruz is a “Fair Taxer” My surprise, let me show you it.

All taxation should be on a voluntary basis. And policemen, firemen, military, air controllers, food inspectors, etc., should work on a voluntary basis.

680 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:49:35am

re: #679 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

All taxation should be on a voluntary basis. And policemen, firemen, military, air controllers, food inspectors, etc., should work on a voluntary basis.

THAT’S WHAT WE LIBERTARIANS WANT!!!! FREE MARKET TAKES CARE OF ALL TEH THINGS!!!!!!! FREEDOMS!!!!!!

681 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 10:50:27am

Andrew Brannan Executed For Killing Of Sheriff’s Deputy In Georgia

The video below is from a camera mounted in the Sheriff’s vehicle. The video is amazing because of the amount and duration of restraint the Sheriff had, especially in light of the recent numerous shootings by trigger-happy LEOs. The Sheriff drew his pistol and gave the suspect countless warnings for nearly 90 seconds. Of course, this was an interaction between a White cop and White suspect……I could only imagine if the suspect was Black how quickly he would have been executed on location.

Police Shootout - Deputy Kyle Dinkheller - Laurens County, GA

682 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:52:45am

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

683 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:54:24am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

[Embedded content]

ticket sales

684 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 10:54:48am

re: #664 iossarian

Remember who we’re dealing with here - both the author and the intended readership.

If you say “Allah” you’re basically a terrorist in these people’s world view.

Heh, yeah, I wonder how horrified they’d be to realize that Arab Christians also use the word Allah in their Bible.

Check it out. Go to copticchurch.net and click on Genesis in English, then switch over to the Arabic version, count in 4 words from the right and look for Allah:

اللهُ

You’ll find it anywhere that God is mentioned in English. Oopsie! So much for the nonsense about Muslims worshiping a “moon god” instead of the same God as Jews and Christians. They don’t care though.

685 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:55:09am
686 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 10:55:45am
687 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 10:55:55am

re: #683 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

ticket sales

Tax cuts. Lots of tax cuts. The more you cut, the more revenue for the gov…. something, something, something….

688 Kid A  Jan 14, 2015 10:56:55am

“Starting in 2006, the rise in gas prices can be traced with the arrival of Obama. Starting in 2006, the rise in the cost of living can be traced with the arrival of Obama.” -Mr. Married Four Times

Uhhhhhh, who was President in 2006 again?

689 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 10:56:55am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

[Embedded content]

Teh Invizzible Hand of Teh Fwee Marketz!!11

690 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:57:26am

re: #687 Dr. Matt

Tax cuts. Lots of tax cuts. The more you cut, the more revenue for the gov…. something, something, something….

FAIR TAX!!!!! MAKE TEH 47%ERS PAY THERE FAIR SHARE!!!1!!!!!

691 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:57:26am

re: #685 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

FFS. Their contractor broke down—they ran out of pork.

692 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 10:57:28am

re: #685 The Vicious Babushka

Pork is sacred to these people. In all its forms and manifestations. Don’t fuck with it.

693 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 10:57:30am

re: #685 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

LOL, the minute I saw that they were taking pork off the menu I knew it was gonna turn into ZOMG, creeping sharia!!11!

694 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 10:58:58am

re: #693 CuriousLurker

LOL, the minute I saw that they were taking pork off the menu I knew it was gonna turn into ZOMG, creeping sharia!!11!

My first thought was “When is some entrepreneur going to open a chain of vegan/kosher/halal/local/sustainable fast food restaurants?”

695 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 10:59:46am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

[Embedded content]

THERE’S NO HYDRAZINE IN THE CONSTITUTION!!1!

696 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 11:01:26am

re: #694 The Vicious Babushka

My first thought was “When is some entrepreneur going to open a chain of vegan/kosher/halal/local/sustainable fast food restaurants?”

Kapulski’s. So good we ate there several times before we realized they were veggie. (Seems they do fish.)

israelrestaurantreview.wordpress.com

697 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 11:02:01am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

[Embedded content]

With GOP Magic Math™. Lowering taxes increases revenue so if we reduce NASA’s budget to zero then we’ll have bases on Mars by Summer.

698 Jenner7  Jan 14, 2015 11:04:43am

re: #688 Kid A

It makes sense because Obama’s response to Katrina was just horrible.

;)

699 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 11:07:45am

re: #698 Jenner7

It makes sense because Obama’s response to Katrina was just horrible.

;)

And he totally fumbled 9/11

700 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:08:22am

re: #687 Dr. Matt

Tax cuts. Lots of tax cuts. The more you cut, the more revenue for the gov…. something, something, something….

Dynamic Scoring!

701 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 11:09:10am

re: #698 Jenner7

It makes sense because Obama’s response to Katrina was just horrible.

;)

I still don’t understand why he was awarded the Peace Prize after he started the war with Iraq.

702 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 11:10:32am

re: #701 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I still don’t understand why he was awarded the Peace Prize after he started the war with Iraq.

For his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis

703 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 11:10:35am

This YouTube video sums up Mitt Romney very nicely…

mitt romney Tells Woman “Your Cookies Suck”

704 De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2015 11:12:21am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

Ted Cruz is a “Fair Taxer” My surprise, let me show you it.

“making taxes flatter” — Twiggy-down economics?

705 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 11:12:23am

re: #703 ObserverArt

She obviously neglects the proper oversight of her servants. Unforgivable!

707 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 11:15:20am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue?

[Embedded content]

Banner Ads and Link-Exchange?

RBS

708 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 11:15:40am

re: #707 RealityBasedSteve

Banner Ads and Link-Exchange?

RBS

Web Rings!

709 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:16:12am

re: #706 Varek Raith

Another volunteer, Parks Matthew, said he “still got killed, but did better than I thought I would.”

I got killed, but it was only a flesh wound!

710 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 11:16:42am

re: #708 The Vicious Babushka

Web Rings!

Good Lord!!! I had totally forgotten about those. Thanks for the trip in the Way-Back Machine.

RBS

711 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:17:23am

Texas gun rights group faith will not be altered by mere empirical evidence.

712 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 11:17:57am

re: #711 jaunte

Texas gun rights group faith will not be altered by mere empirical evidence.

We want the unskewed results!!!

713 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 11:18:05am

re: #706 Varek Raith

Texas gun rights group reenacts Paris massacre with ‘armed civilian’ — and everyone still dies

I had seen that earlier today… I liked the part at the end that said, paraphrasing now… “As of the time of the story, the site’s facebook page had not been updated with the results of reenactment”.

RBS

714 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 11:18:09am

re: #709 jaunte

I got killed, but it was only a flesh wound!

He could’ve been double killed!
Or something?

715 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 11:20:34am
716 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 11:21:41am

re: #715 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

Didn’t the wingnuts already swear off Chipotle last week for some other stupid thing?

718 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:23:03am

re: #716 b.d.

Didn’t the wingnuts already swear off Chipotle last week for some other stupid thing?

Don’t let them know Chick-Fil-A is using halal chicken.

719 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:23:36am

There could be some panicky vegetarian conversion.

720 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 11:24:45am

re: #716 b.d.

Didn’t the wingnuts already swear off Chipotle last week for some other stupid thing?

The BS about one of their employees doing a “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” at the sainted NYPD.

That was the last last straw from the wingnuts over Chipotle

721 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 11:25:33am

Chipotle fires a substandard supplier and the silly freakout begins!
XD

722 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 11:25:47am
723 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 11:26:12am

re: #722 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

That last one…

724 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:26:29am

re: #715 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

725 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:27:00am

I will only eat food someone else dislikes.
This is the single principle I can conveniently uphold!!!

726 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 11:27:08am

re: #715 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

Beyond stupid. These people willingly engage in “Active Ignorance”. Took me less than 20 seconds to find out what’s going on, a major supplier has been suspended for not meeting Chipotle’s requirements on animal treatment (Access to outdoors areas, deeply bedded pens, no antibiotics) and that’s causing a supply shortage.

But I promise that the screeching harpy, the DMOTI, upChuck and the rest of the usual suspects will be on this in a heartbeat, truth be damned.

Spit.

RBS
Who knows where he’s going for lunch tomorrow, Chipotles. It’s a “Buycott”

727 Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2015 11:28:40am

Meanwhile, al-Baghdadi, head of ISIS, has ordered the execution of 56 members of the group following a defeat in northern Iraq.

The head of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has ordered the execution of 56 members of the militant group following a defeat in northern Iraq, a Kurdish official told Al Arabiya News Channel.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi took the decision after the Islamist militants’ defeat in Kober, south of Erbil, the capital of the autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan, said Saeed Mamozini, an official in the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP).

english.alarabiya.net

Clearly al-Baghdadi is trying to rock that whole Darth Vader vibe. I wonder how you say this:

Darth Vader - You Have Failed Me For The Last Time

in Arabic.

728 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:28:44am

re: #725 jaunte

I will only eat food someone else dislikes.
This is the single principle I can conveniently uphold!!!

I believe this is how my two sons work.

Older boy: Loves fruit, won’t eat vegetables except tomatoes.

Younger boy: won’t eat fruit, eats vegetables - except tomatoes.

729 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:29:18am

re: #727 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, al-Baghdadi, head of ISIS, has ordered the execution of 56 members of the group following a defeat in northern Iraq.

english.alarabiya.net

Clearly al-Baghdadi is trying to rock that whole Darth Vader vibe. I wonder how you say this:

[Embedded content]

in Arabic.

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

730 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 11:29:44am

re: #727 Dr Lizardo

Calling CL!

731 De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2015 11:30:37am

re: #722 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Too bad they cropped the last box from the photo: George Zimmerman

732 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 11:32:16am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

How do you plan on doing that, Ted, with no tax revenue

733 Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2015 11:34:21am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

Under President Obama, I have “jobs, liberty and security”. Just saying.

734 De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2015 11:35:23am
Chipotle says it has stopped serving carnitas at many locations because a key pork supplier was suspended after violating Chipotle’s standards for raising pigs.

FROM MY COLD TRICHINOSIS-INFECTED HANDS!!!!11!!!

735 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 11:51:13am

re: #727 Dr Lizardo

Vader’s altered the deal. Pray he doesn’t alter it any further.

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

736 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 14, 2015 12:43:07pm

re: #716 b.d.

Didn’t the wingnuts already swear off Chipotle last week for some other stupid thing?

NYC policemen leaving after not appreciating an employee raising their hands and saying “Don’t shoot!” IIRC. The Prince of Pixels was on it as well.
/

737 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 14, 2015 12:44:55pm

re: #727 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, al-Baghdadi, head of ISIS, has ordered the execution of 56 members of the group following a defeat in northern Iraq.

english.alarabiya.net

Clearly al-Baghdadi is trying to rock that whole Darth Vader vibe. I wonder how you say this:

[Embedded content]

in Arabic.

Guy needs a copy of the Evil Overlord list. I’m pretty sure mass execution of your own troops is a no-no.


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